IT IS WHAT IT IS - WE MIGHT HAVE A JOB FOR SKIP BAYLESS & COLLIN SEXTON JOINS THE SHOW! | S4 EP61

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

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Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga Black Benz's and white Vigas Now I'm out here and I'm looking for more chandeliers and light fixtures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states,

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Get them back. You have them. A lot of niggas said murder's home, man. They talking about seeing niggas forgot about murder. They said murder's home, man. I felt good, man. I felt really good, man. And I did.

Yep. Well, I'm happy y'all had the opportunity to definitely get that episode. That was lit. Okay, so let's start with Skip Bayless. He is reportedly leaving Undisputed this summer. Sources are saying there is a possibility the Undisputed name would be retired

and a new show would come in place. After hearing that news, what do you think of his decision to part ways with the show i'm thinking about this man got birdman hands paws man yo i might you know how they say a house nigga What it would be like to have, you know, could we hire Skip Bayless? I think we should hire Skip Bayless. You going to vote with me? I'm going to say what I got to say when you finish. Because I don't need to bust no move to hire Skip.

And then y'all be calling me saying, well, I hire Skip. I think this is alarming being that, shout out to Shannon Sharp. It proves the power of Shannon Sharp. Pause that Shannon Sharp was on this show and a year ago he left. And a year later, it's like grand opening. Close and pause. That he was actually that important to that show. And sometimes people just underestimate chemistry. Like there's an ability that you have by yourself,

and then there's an ability that you have, you know, with people standing side by side with you. And I think this speaks largely, Paul, to that. And when Skip Bayless is off the air, I don't think he's going to be off the air for long. I think he's definitely transitioning to something else. But you think of all of the things that went into this show. I mean, you got Lil Wayne, you got Mike

Irving, you got Paul Pierce, and you know, great talent, and shout outs to all of those people, and to think that he did all of this, and Richard Sherman, even Rachel Nichols, I think she need to be added to this show, and added to what we're doing, And it just has so much great talent up there, and it just speaks to the fact of what you and I are doing, Killer. It speaks largely to that. That's what I really, really think. Because in us coming on every morning, it's starting to dwindle that audience. And when you only have two hours, you have to decide what you're going to watch.

And the people have decided. That's what it really says to me. So, congratulations, Killer. We ran Skip off. That's what I was going to start with. That Mase, this was all planned by Mase. I'm just saying this. Mase said, let's get the 8 o'clock time slot.

He said, we're not going to fuck with Stephen A. That's our nigga. That nigga came on the show early before we had to deal anything. We was putting our own money up. Stephen A came on the show. He said, we're going to leave that 10 o'clock time slot alone. But you said, fuck Skip. That's exactly what you said.

Now you're sitting here trying to make it sound all, well, you know, the two hours you have to say, yes, that's the thing. Fuck that nigga Skip, man. Coming on at 8 o'clock. What are you trying to be professional about? Niggas say, yo, fuck that nigga. We're going to get that nigga up out of here.

Now shit done happened. Niggas say, well, what I'm saying is that this was your plan. Talk about we did it. I was down. Don't get me. I wasn't down. I was down. I'm down.

Whatever we going to do, I'm down. But this was your exact plan. He said, Steve and A at 10. We ain't fucking with Steve. That's our nigga. 8 o'clock. Nigga's on the way to work, on the way to school. They getting ready for work.

We gonna get that nigga out of here. And yeah, so I'll say we, but yep, Wayne. Actually I've been, look, you can see Skip, look, and you know, we make fun of Skip up here a lot, but seriously, we got to think about this before I say anything negatively about Skip. Yeah. Skip got Stephen A back on first tape when Stephen A. wasn't working for ESPN. Skip also gave Shannon Sharp an opportunity to show his expertise or being a broadcaster, analyst, or whatever you want to call it.

Because nobody knew Shannon Sharp was able to do that, even in the beginning. Nigga was like, yo, what this country nigga doing up here? But he ended up being funny. He had a lot of personality. He brought a lot of shit to the table. Niggas forgot Shannon was drinking Hennessy. He was smoking black and male.

He was taking a puff of weed. Yeah, taking a puff of weed with Snoop Dogg. Shannon brought a lot of niggas along with him. And listening to Shannon talk about his departure from Undisputed, he was really hurt. He said it got to the point where Skip and him didn't even talk unless it was on the show. They didn't talk before the show, after the show,

just got to that much tension. And Shannon ended up going to First Sake, which everybody knows. So imagine Skip looking at the two niggas he put on, kill him in the ratings. You know that walk around the house with his wife, like, put these niggas on. And this is what I get. This is what I get.

This is the thanks I get. Yeah, this is the thanks I get. And I was listening. Now, we're not on linear or traditional television, so I'll say it's a little different, but I keep in tune with everything. television so i'll say it's a little different but i keep in tune with everything first take averages 450 000 or a little bit more than that viewers per day to where undisputed is averaging 53 000 viewers per day and that's a big disparity when you think about that's a 400 000 person

disparity and i when i read that probably about a month or two ago and i was like that's kind of wow yo i'm like that's that's like some numbers is kind of wow to have 53 000 and i didn't fact check it but i'm sitting there like i don't know i don't want to fact check it i want it to kind of be right because I fuck with Steven and I fuck with Shannon, what they doing anyway. I don't know Shannon personally. Steven A. Smith is my nigga. So it's just sad, man, because we sat up here and made fun of him all season, man.

You dissed him and you dissed him murder and you dissed him over and over again. And now the band don't got a fucking network. But to be honest with you, when his season started last season, at the beginning of football season, talking about the undisputed season, a lot of people like right now on vacation,

like Stephen A is on vacation, Skip goes on vacation now. A lot of times after the NBA championship is over, they go on vacation until probably preseason football. And when they started last year, when I seen what he was trying to do, the nigga show, the beginning, you know, the intro,

it had gold chains around nigga's neck. Like, you know, it was like, what you trying to do, nigga shit? Then you got, then you sit there and get Lil Wayne, which Lil Wayne's my nigga. I love Lil Wayne. That's my brother, my brother.

I'm talking about, you know, Lil Wayne is young money, but that nigga dips that which Lil Wayne's my nigga. I love Lil Wayne. That's my brother, my brother. I'm talking about, you know, Lil Wayne is Young Money, but that nigga Dipset, too. That's my nigga. But it looked like a reach. But I know Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne wasn't coming every Friday for free. That nigga runs it up. Then you sat there and got Michael Irvin.

Then you sat there and got Richard Sherman, Keyshawn Johnson. All these niggas was clashing. Like, Skip Bayless didn't even have a spot on his own show. This shit was just too much going on, and it was confusing. Then that shit wasn't working. Then you start going to get niggas like, shout out to my nigga Bubba Dub. That's my nigga too. But you like, damn, you just reaching.

I'm not saying that Bubba Dub don't deserve an opportunity because he does. He knows what he's talking about. He's funny. He's funny. He's factual. I fuck with the nigga. But for Skip to be like, what's the end? Give me an internet sensation. Is he an internet sensation?

Give me one of them internet sensations. I need one of them type niggas. And then you go get Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce was on for about a month and a half. He couldn't stop saying nigga on TV. And they let the nigga keep saying nigga, nigga, nigga. And you kind of see the shit spiraling. I didn't know it was going to come to this, but you got what you wanted, murder.

Now, back to what Skip with Paul Mays was saying. We got a job for you. We can fuck with you, nigga. I think you'd be good up here once a week, maybe twice. If you need something, you know, we need some paleness. I don't know the right word, but some diversity. That's a better word. Diversity.

That's definitely the right word. This is why I have to talk. I ain't going to say what you said off the top. You know, there's some non-melodic. I ain't going to say what you said off the top of my head. You know, there's some non-melodic. Yeah, some non, like, some diversity. Look, seriously, like, we used to talk about this before. Like, you know, Rachel Nichols is a great talent.

I've been looking for Max Kellerman. I'm trying to track him down for, like, the last year. Jeff Van Gundy just got a job somewhere we've been looking for you diversities you know i've been trying to get y'all niggas to fuck with us because we we run it up we get it look we got oj pop and god bless it was a pleasure yo i was that was so much love that we was able to do that because O.J. had one perception from a lot of people. Even though that man was found not guilty on all charges, people still want to think

what you want to think. That's why he's on the show. Mark Jackson, he's on the show. Stat got on the show. Look, we are about black people first, but if you're white and you know what you're talking about and you can bring something to the show. Cool. Look at Nick. He's white.

Man, Nick over there, man. Eat your nigga. White boy. Nigga, we fuck with him. That's our man. That's our man right there. We fuck with y'all, man. So, Skip, call me up.

We'll have a meeting. We'll see what happens. You said we're about black people first. We are. Because you know what? We didn't get the opportunities. See, niggas, like, statting them is young. And don't get me wrong, stats from a part of Florida where shit still get racial and all that shit.

But the opportunities, we didn't get opportunities. You know, we was too young to really have jobs or something. But, like, watching our mothers and grandmothers, they ain't getting no opportunities. They had to sit there and wait and get jobs that they was given or only could do. So now that you got the position, you in a position. Oh, so the roles are reversed, the tables have turned now. But that's what I'm about to say.

That's what I was about to explain to you. And that's what I was saying to white. Ain't it so cool that the black man can say diversity instead of the white thing? He's like, we're trying to, that's usually a white person word. Yeah, when you at a job somewhere, it's usually the white person that be like,

we need a little bit of diversity up here. That's a fact. Yeah, it sounds a little weird. I'm like, good clean up. That was a good clean up. That was really good. The whole thing is, it's a mess on aisle three. I ain't trying to clean it up.

I'm just telling you the facts. It was a fact. That's a white person's word when it comes to jobs. A black person would say, y'all don't got no diversity up here. We need some diversity. Even when it comes to women. They're like, yo, man, they don't show no diversity. It's only men up here.

Black men and women are giving white people some diversity. I don't know what it is, nigga. That's what it is. Well, I'm curious to see what Skip will do next. Now let's discuss Team USA. So they beat Australia 98-92. On Wednesday, they will play Serbia. Just in general, how do you guys feel

about Team USA at this point? I'm not sure about USA. They play pretty cool, but I think the game was too close to be playing Australia. I mean, when you think of all the talent on this team, this is not, they shouldn't be six points over Australia. I mean, you, even if you don't have Kevin Durant playing, right, you still got Booker playing. You got, you got AD playing. You still got LeBron playing, Curry playing. I mean, this, this is, this is, this is unrealistic. Even if you look at all of the turnovers they had, there's no way you're supposed to be turning the ball over like this. But I think it makes sense because they have a lot of two guards. They don't have a lot of natural point guards or people that are playing point.

So normally, even with Stephen Curry, somebody else is normally bringing the ball up and then they're facilitating it to him or he's running off picks. So then you take him away, you really just have Drew Holiday as the only pure point guard on this team. So turnovers can accumulate because you got a bunch of niggas just not used to doing what they're doing. And I think they thought that the talent would just override everything. And I could see them having trouble with at least two other teams. Right now, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they wouldn't go. You said it was a foregone conclusion, Murda. I did.

I did. I like that. Accountability. Yeah, I like that. I like that. But after watching these niggas, I did. I did. I like that. Accountability. Yeah, I like that. I like that. But after watching these niggas, I mean. You know what I'm saying? After watching these and watching how they look in this game,

I don't know. They probably got some shorties out there. But this doesn't look really good. I mean, this team is two-star study. Pause. Like, even when you look at their second team, you got Booker, you got Davis, you got Bam. This is a stacked team.

Like, there is no way they supposed to be up just these few points when they're subbing in all-stars for all-stars. They're subbing in, like, Hall of Famers for people who will be first ballot Hall of Famers. This is not a six-point game, and I hate to keep hopping on that, but it's just what I'm saying at this time. I don't think even with Kirk coaching, he got to figure out a different way to use the depth of this

team. I didn't see the game. I seen a few clips and a few highlights, so I'm not going to sit here and bash Team USA. But you're right. When I seen the score, I'm like six points or more because you know who was watching and who waiting in the wings for the next game? The Joker, nigga. The Joker's waiting for the next game, and he's looking at niggas like,

yo, and he's telling his niggas in Serbia and the Serbians, I cook these niggas all year round. You know that, right? These are the niggas that I cook all year round. They're Anthony Davis niggas. They're not like that. Yeah, they're not like that. The Anthony Davis nigga,

I think he like 12 and, I'm 12 and 1 against him in the last 13 games. And this other nigga, he don't show up. Yeah, and you know who's on the Anthony Davis team? Anthony Davis nigga team?

The LeBron nigga y'all be fucking with. Like, I cooks them. That's what I do. I usually cook them. But that's the next game. I'ma watch that game. I can't wait to watch that game

because the Joker cooks these niggas. You know what I'm saying? So cook Bam in the championship. Got the MVP on Bam. I'm trying to think of the big man. Who's the other big man they got outside of Bam and Anthony Davis? Who's the third one?

Embiid. Embiid. Now see, the thing about mb now what i'll say about mb and b i fuck with mb but he'd be on some sucker shit because he played at home against the joker score 45 50 whatever he get then when it's time to go to denver mysteriously for the last two years, he's hurt when it's time to go to Denver. Why you, look, you got chores. Let that man get the opportunity to get his, but I fuck with Embiid. I don't know what he looked like this particular game. I know he didn't have a great first game, 12 minutes fouled out. I don't know if it's because of his injuries he's had.

You got to realize the reason why Embiid is so good, and I know this is an international play, but the man has 50 on the Knicks with one leg and one eye. So he's nice, but this is a different situation when we have an international play. I see that they moved Ant-Man into the starting lineup. Maybe that shit Ant-Man was talking about, I'm the first option,

and Nick is going to have to figure out how to play with me. I see Steve Kerr move to the starting lineup. Like you said, Kevin Durant didn't play, so we don't know what will be the starting lineup once the Olympics start. But overall, like I said, I didn't see the game. But with me said, I don't like a 6.1. I'm not comfortable with that.

I'm not. And then just so you know, so in this game, Embiid had 14 points and five rebounds and Anthony Davis had 17 points, 14 rebounds. Okay. That's what's up. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk college. So Oklahoma State head football coach Mike Gundy is facing backlash after one of his running backs got arrested for a DUI. He said, I thought really two or three beers or four I'm not justifying what all he did I'm telling you what decision I made well I thought I probably done that a thousand times in my life coming from a head coach what did you guys think about the response

that he had ill-advised is what I hear ill-advised like um you're the leader you definitely I know you want to show compassion to your players but you could be saving his life so I think that's a terrible statement to make and I'm not here to judge you as a person but you know I won't charge that to your heart I meant your heart will pause charge it to your head your head, because that's a ridiculous statement in a day we're living in. Not to think about we just saw Kyrie Jackson in a car crash or just a young man lose his life driving and wasn't even in a wrong. And he died. His two friends died.

And, you know, prayers up for the the jackson family and aj and the other person that was in in that car as well as their coach the whole maryland the whole you know state and just thinking about that this so when you hear something like this to say that he actually took it this light, it says a lot because there's people that die under that will. There's people that die getting hit by that will. And I've been on each side of that coin of people dying in a car crash, people being drunk, just everything.

And that's just not, for me, that's a sensitive topic. That's not something to play with. So, you know, you got to watch the words we give people, especially as leaders. We got to watch those words because this could be horrible. We could see this kid the next time and then just thinking he gave him a little pat on the back, and a lot can be lost there. So he said he's fortunate that somebody didn't get injured.

That's the right thing to say. And then he said there's way more embarrassment for him and his family. And it just sounds like he's trying to brush it under the rug, and I don't want to harp on him, but that's how it sounds to me if somebody asks me my opinion. Everything you said, I totally agree with 100%. Look, both of my best friends outside of Mesa died in car crashes, so I get that 100%. But his statement to me says, this nigga must be nice.

Whoever the running back is, he ought to be good. You know, you only make excuses for the good niggas. Come on, nigga. They got a couple of beers. Fuck you talking about that? I don't know where the players, because we didn't say the name, but he got to be good, because niggas who ain't shit, you be like, nah, he did the wrong thing.

We can't fuck with him. He's suspended. We can't tolerate that on this team. Yeah, we can't tolerate and all that. Whoever that nigga is, he got the wrong thing. We can't fuck with him. He's suspended. He can't tolerate that on his team. He ain't tolerating all that, though. Whoever that nigga is, he got to be good. He got to be one of them ones because you only make excuses for the good niggas, B. The niggas who ain't shit, you're going to throw them niggas under the rug. This ain't got to be that nigga.

Come on, nigga. I know we ain't talking about 151 Bacardi, nigga. 17 shots, that's all he had, nigga. y'all bugging now when you good you get away with shit like that when you don't when you're not good the coach or the staff or whoever throw you under the bus certain niggas got certain cachet and other players don't everything may say was 100 correct and I think the coach made the absolutely wrong statement. But for him to make that statement, I think the player was good. Yeah, you said that before. You said, I remember you said, if you're good enough,

they'll find a way to work with you. That's a fact. Listen, we got to sit here and think about it. You know what I'm saying? And I'll just use a couple examples off the top of my head. And I know I'm going way back because I was a little nigga when this happened.

But we talking about a nigga, Dexter Manley. He's a football player. Retired Pro Bowl. I don't know how many Pro Bowls he made. I'm not sure if he was, but he's one of them niggas. When he retired after a 15-year career,

he told niggas he can't read and write. He had a college degree. He had been in the NFL 12, 13, 14, 15 years, and then when it was all said and done, he told niggas he can't read and write. So niggas been making excuses for that nigga since he was probably eight, nine years old when he started playing football and saying,

oh, he nice. Well, I know he can't think about this you pass elementary school middle school high school you got a college degree you're going through the nfl with contracts everything else to read and now mind you it wasn't no navigation back then so if you telling him yo get off on sahara and when you give a nigga directions to the house, he like, just tell me the color of the house so I could drive by, because he can't read Sahara when you're driving.

You can't read signs, you can't read none of this, so you got to think about that. I thought that was very brave of him to even come out and say, and bring awareness to that, when you're good, they'll find a way for you. There's no way this man should have a college degree and didn't know how to read. Who took all those tests for him? That's, you know how it go, nigga. Who took yours? I took my own test.

You forgot how high I got on the SAT, killer? Yeah, I did. Yeah, okay. Well, look, let me tell you. Look, I know how to read and write and count and everything else. I went to college, and I didn't graduate from high school because I was that good. Nigga boy, because, all right, cool.

I'm recruited by the University of Miami. I didn't pass my SAT. We 23-0 my senior year. We lose in the first round. I'm depressed. I said, I'm not going back to school. I go up to Albany with my baby mother. have no baby time i sell weed then i realized oh shit school's coming up universally miami says you're wild and you didn't take sat you didn't graduate they sent

me to junior college i was in my dorm in junior college navarro junior college shout to everybody out there in costa canada texas i was there three days and they said here go your GED congrats when you're nice they will figure it out I went to college I did not graduate high school how that happen how that happen I was that good man that's a fact but that's worth everything

I love you go I pull out my college pictures and all that I didn't graduate. Mason, though, Mason was in school with me. We was 23 and on my senior year and lost in the first round. I didn't want to go back to school. That shit was depressing. But I went to school the next year.

And then back to the topic real quick. Just want to make a disclaimer. We do not condone driving under the influence. Absolutely not. Just got to make that clear. Yes, we discussed it, but we do not condone that at all and do not support that. Okay, and then last topic before we go to break nate diaz is suing for fraud and breach of contract after he was promised 10 million dollars total for winning his boxing

match he reportedly didn't get paid the rest of the nine million dollars post fight how do you guys feel after hearing that news and hearing that he still has not been paid um this is this is hilarious that and not in a good way that he hasn't been paid his money but killer no this is why i don't like people paying us pause on the back end i'm not with no back ends wherever the money is we need to get paid up front because tomorrow is not promised. You know, this man made he made a deal. They signed a contract. They said they're going to pay him $10 million. The money is supposed to come after, you know, they paid him a portion and then he's going

to get the portion when he goes to fight. Imagine going to the arena. We know this as as entertainers. If the money is not there, we're not performing. Imagine getting to the arena and the guy's ready to fight. And you know you want to fight as well. And then you go out there, you get your face busted, you bust their face up, pause, you win the fight, and then a dude say, yo, I don't got the other nine. And not just you don't have the other nine. Imagine killing somebody,

getting this girl to call you and say, you know what? I really hope you can give us a little bit of time to get you that nine. After the fight, and then after this, it goes even further. It gets crazier, folks. He sends him a message and say, yo, you know, if I give you that nine, my wife is threatened to divorce me.

My wife is threatened to divorce me if I give you that nine. You're like, bro, ain't got nothing to do with your relationship, man. My wife has threatened to divorce me If I give you that nine He's like bro I ain't got nothing to do with your relationship man I need that nine And then he doesn't send him the money Like he wants him to feel sympathy for him So then he had to sue He had to sue him

And I'm looking at I'm looking at this story And I just I'm just baffled by this because What do you do? You can't beat them up because if you beat them up, you ain't going to get the nine. So you got to play smooth with them and pause and just tell them, you know, man, just give me five.

Give me five. I'll get the four later. You got to get some because if he's acting like he's not giving up none of the money, you got to get some of that money. And I think it's crazy that he used his wife as an escape goat for this. This is wild. And this is just what I heard, allegedly. I don't know if that's true, but that's the news that I got. That's the word on the street.

Word on the street is that he reneged on a whole nine, That's the word on the street. Word on the street is that he reneged on a whole nine, told him that his wife was going to divorce him if he give the nine to him. So work with me. But with no date to get the money. What's the exact story you said? I just heard niggas ain't get they money.

Yeah, basically, so they said they were going to give him one million up front and then nine million post-fight for the win. He never got the rest of the nine million million, so now he's suing them. We just went through that. Well, we didn't go through it. Some niggas offered me and made some money for a show. They said, we're going to give you 10% five days before the show and then give you the rest five days after the show.

The way I work is you give me half when we get off the phone and you give me half the other half I get on the stage. That's just the way it works. If we told niggas fuck off, we ain't with it. Yeah, but this is exactly what happens. I remember somebody didn't have my money after show. Shout out to my man British. I know you probably get mad for me saying this, but the promoter was like, yo, I did everything I could do, man. I just don't got it. And my nigga took the title to his car and made him take his gold teeth out his mouth

and took his gold teeth and his title. He said, call us. We'll give you your car back when you figure it out. But to take a nigga gold teeth is just menacing out a nigga mouth. But it gets to that sometime. Let alone a nigga like Maysaggin. UFC is a real brutal sport. You know, if you watch boxing, right?

Somebody gets knocked down, we get 10 seconds to get up. If you get knocked down in UFC, a nigga pause is coming to jump on you pause and elbow you and knee you in your head and all type of other shit and to be in that kind of shape and take that type of abuse

so you don't have a nigga money you didn't even have half his money you didn't even have 25% of the money you didn't even have a third of his money not to give that man his money

I think it's fucked up but what happens is I don't know this, and it's Nate Diaz? Yeah. I fuck with Nate. That's my nigga. Yeah, Nate come to fight all the time. Why would you not have him? Yeah, why wouldn't you have Nate Diaz money? But I don't know who you're dealing with.

You know, sometimes it depends on who you're dealing with. Because I just really don't have too much to say about it, but just don't do a deal like that. Because I'm be honest with you, it's one of them situations where Nate threatened a promoter. You can't really do nothing. You could put a nigga out and then you may have another con promoter like, nigga, I'll shoot your fucking leg off. You trying to put me in the full Nelson or one of them UFCs or Arm Corp. Yeah, put me in the arm arm. Yeah, all that shit.

You got the money? Yeah. Yeah, see Nick in there laughing because Nick one of them UFC niggas. One day somebody going to fuck with him. You know, I asked Nick that shit. I said, Nick, you look like a nice guy. Somebody ever tried to front on you and just think you pussy? Nick said, actually, yeah, it was my whole crew.

Imagine a crew of UFC fighters just out at the movies or at a basketball game or something. You think it's just some punk ass white boys and they fuck you up bad, bad. And just have you all on the floor talking about, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. I ain't say all that you know i'm saying so i wouldn't have did the deal though or just i wouldn't have did it okay

we're gonna go to break when we return we will discuss jalen brunson and we'll be back with a special guest don't go anywhere. Four years of counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall, oh, oh Dealing with this thing called trust But she ain't really thinking about it. She wanna be free. Why am I in this woman's way? She wanna be free. Hell, I don't wanna see her walk away. I wish somebody told me the rules.

Disagreements let her win, then it's cool. Even when I'm right to say nothing about you. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Today, the Mercury will play the Mystics. Underdog fantasy has Brittany Griner at 18.5 points. Do you have her high or lower at mace? High.

High? Lower. Diana Taurasi is at 24 points, rebounds, and assists. Do you have her high or lower, Cam? High. High. Okay, and Ariel Atkins is at four first quarter points. Do you have her higher or lower, Cam? Higher. Higher. Okay, and Ariel Atkins is at four first quarter points. Do you have her higher or lower, Mace?

I'm going to go higher. All right. Okay, download the Underdog Fantasy app, and you can make your picks, too. We are joined back with a special guest. Today, we've got Utah Jazz point guard, Colin Sexton. My man, what's happening, baby? Not much, not much.

Appreciate y'all having me. Colin was good, man. Thanks for having us. Thanks for coming by, man. We appreciate it. You know, Mase is from all over the place. He's from Harlem. He's from Florida.

I knew he was going to say that. And he's also from Georgia. I was about to say Marietta. Marietta. Did you watch him play? Because anybody who comes out of Georgia in the last 10 years, he's supposed to- I know who he is. Did you go see him play?

Because you know everybody in Atlanta. Yeah, I was there for the Battle of the Bucs. I was there for the Battle of the Bucs. I was there for the Battle of the Bucs. I was there for the Battle of the Bucs. I was Georgia in the last 10 years, he support. Rob Markman I know who he is. Rob Markman Did you go see him play? Because you know everybody in Atlanta. Yeah, I was there for the battle of him and I forgot homeboy that went to Duke. What was it? Rob Markman Duval.

Yeah. Duval. They were saying Duval was better than him. Rob Markman Back the city out that night. Turned out better than Duval. Rob Markman Okay, you got your knowledge together. Okay. Rob Markman Oh yeah.

Rob Markman Right? They were. Rob Markman Yeah, no, you're right about that. Yeah. For sure. Yes, what's up? The question I wanted to ask you, and I think you could really add some light to this. What is the difference, you would say, since you grew up in the AU circuit, you played on a high level in college and a high level in the NBA. What is the difference between those players that are great in high school and those who talent translate to college and the NBA? What's the difference in those? I would say, honestly, in high school, sometimes you might be bigger than everybody.

And then eventually they catch up to you or you might just be more athletic. And then once you get to the league, everybody athletic. Everybody can dunk. Everybody can run, jump, little things like that. And then some people might peak out in high school, so they might be their best self in high school and I feel like I've seen that so many times. It's like they don't have nowhere else. They already hit their ceiling and then once you get to the league, it's just honestly

it turns into who can watch more film, who can pay attention to details a lot better and that's when you see guys starting to separate themselves from the pack, for sure. Now, I'm not expecting you to sit up here and say anything bad about the Utah Jazz, but let's be serious. Where do y'all think y'all are going next season with all the competition in the West, realistically?

Because y'all didn't make the playoffs this realistically because y'all didn't make the playoffs this year y'all didn't make the plan you're a fantastic player even when you was on cleveland where do you think the future in the next year or two is for the utah jazz being that you guys are in the stack western conference um i feel like the future is still bright uh the future is definitely bright we got a bunch of great draft picks this past year um even just this last draft was amazing and uh right now we still we still got pieces that was with us uh last year we got me jc uh larry um john collins so and then kiante um you see he did his thing in summer league so we got a bunch guys, and I feel like we still match up well

with the rest of the West. The only thing that we got to do is just find it together. At the end of the day, we got to do it together. Yeah, and continuity comes off the court. Going to hang out, you know what I mean? Going out to eat. You may talk about that all the time. Yeah, going out to eat, hanging out, pulling up.

It don't matter. Just doing little things like that that that's what brings guys together because at the end you see these guys like okay for instance like minnesota man like that team together is eating together cat is getting all those guys together like hanging out doing um going to different games like they do it together so you start to see like if you can trust me off the court i know on the court it's gonna be easy right now i was gonna i don't really have that many questions um when it comes to this because i feel like i i'll pause i watch you um grow up and play basketball being being in atlanta i like to watch all like the young sports and people coming up. But I would ask this. Do you think playing in Mableton made it easier for you to transition to somewhere like Utah?

Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. I feel like Mableton is… What's the connection? Ooh. I don't know if it's a connection. I feel like it's a lot easier playing in Utah where it's a little bit more chill. Playing in Mableton, for sure, it's like the city on your back.

You know what I mean? At the end of the day, everybody wants you to do so well. You got packed out games. You got people on the sideline betting on the game, little stuff like that. I feel like being in Mableton, it helped me come together and just know that I got a support system that nobody else got. And it brings me to Utah that I'm able to like feel good, feel comfortable.

Yeah, able to focus. Cause you know, being in Atlanta, you can go out Monday through Sunday. It don't matter. So when I'm in Utah, I'm able to focus, lock in and focus on this basketball. That's what's up. Where do you think you are right now amongst NBA point guards?

Do you think you're a top five, top ten NBA point guard right now? Let's start at top five. Are you a top five NBA point guard right now? I feel like I can be. Okay. Yeah. That don't sound like a yes, though. No, I don't think so just because opportunity.

At the end of the day, my opportunity is coming, and I'm going to take advantage of it when it does come. Right. Are you a top 10 NBA point guard right now? If I'm putting myself in there, for sure. I put myself against anybody. At the end of the day, I don't back down from nobody. I got a different type of chip on my shoulder.

I got a different type of grind that when I step between those lines, it's me against you. I would have said that one. You're actually about top five, nigga. That's what you're supposed to say. Nah, nah. You know what I mean? I got to keep it real.

I got to keep it real. I like that. I keep it 100. Ain't nobody at this desk better than me right now. You know what I'm saying? Ain't nobody up here better than me right now. Yeah, I feel that. Ain't nobody up here better than me right now.

For sure. In the room, nigga. That's how I walk around. I know that's how I make stuff. Yeah, that's how I'm gonna feel. I know that's how Mace feel. That ain't how you walk around? That might feel like both these old niggas as well. You know what I'm saying? How do you feel about Chris Paul?

Do you think a traditional point guard like Chris Paul who's not that athletic, Floyd General, do you think there's room for that kind of point guard moving forward in the NBA, being that yourself, John Morant, Russell Westbrook, a lot of these point guards outside of Chris Paul, and I would go Mike Conley as well, are traditional point guards. And Jalen Brunson, too, but he's just a little different, a little more updated. Do you think there's room for that kind of point guard left in the NBA?

Oh, yeah. I would say so. I would say so, depending on the team. Because at the end of the day, like, with Chris Paul, if you need him to go get a bucket, he'll go get a bucket. But if you need him to set the table for everybody, he's going to do it. So he has no, like, limits. So it's like this.

If you're on a team, like, with KD, PG, you know what I mean, certain guys, your job kind of easy. All you got to do is go out there and pass, facilitate, get them in the right situation. Like, even out there with Devin Booker and Brad, like, you out there with them, it's like, okay, all I got to do is pass, get off of it, make them look good. If they look good, I look good. You feel me? So I would say it's like, okay, all I got to do is pass, get off it, make them look good. If they look good, I look good.

You feel me? So I would say it's definitely a need. Like, it's certain guys, like even Tyrus Jones. Like, he go out there, he'll kill. You look up, he might got, like, 15, 16 assists, and he impacted the game in every way. Gotcha. Yeah.

Gotcha. Where do you predict Utah to be at the end of this season coming up? Where do you predict y'all to be? I'm saying number one, I'm saying number one, we're going to shock some folks. I did it my first year in the West. Hey,

I'm throwing it out there. We're going, we're going to shoot for the stars. You know what I mean? We're going to shoot for the stars. We're going to shoot for the stars. You know what I mean? We're going to shoot for the stars. We're going to shoot for the stars. It is what it is. That's the optimism you wanted to make.

Yeah, yeah. It is what it is. I'm going to shoot for the stars. What are the fans like in Utah? Like when you're in Utah, what is a typical day in Utah? A typical day in Utah is looking outside, making sure there ain't too much snow on the ground. It's one of those places that it might be like crazy snowstorm and you still got to go to practice.

Practice don't stop. So I feel like that's- Rob Markman, You know, being in Utah, Maze, you could've asked me that. I'd be in Orem and all that. Rob Markman, You'd be in Utah? Rob Markman, In Orem. Rob Markman, You know how to ski? Rob Markman, Huh?

Rob Markman, You know how to ski? Rob Markman, I got property and all that out there. You know, I'm doing some construction, St. George and all that. Rob Markman, You know what I'm saying? Me and my nigga Larry over there. Rob Markman, Yeah, St. George and all that. You know what I'm saying? Me and my nigga Larry over there. We got some shit going on. Yeah, do your thing. I like that.

You know about Orem? Oh yeah, for sure. We're going to tap in. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to get some number and all that, man. I'm sure I'm trying to talk. I do a little bit of real estate and all that. Like you jealous now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you said something else. That's why I'm laughing. Especially, he know the spots too. That's crazy. Yeah, shout out to everybody in our room that I fuck with. I fuck with not. It's all jokes.

I got some people out there. For sure. Okay, so I have a couple questions. After this recent draft, a lot of people are making comparisons to the different draft classes. People are saying that they feel like the 2018 draft is one of the best draft classes in recent years. Do you agree, or where do you guys think you guys fall?

We're the best draft class, for sure. We definitely got the most talent. Ever? Yeah, I feel like we got the, it's number one. I would say the next draft class. I know I told you to go crazy. No, no, no, no, you're good. I'm going crazy on this one. If you ask anybody, we got the best draft class. Better than 96. Huh? You was pretty young. Better than 96? 1996. I would say the next one for me would be like 03. All right, let's do 03. LeBron, Dwyane Wade. Mello.

And Mello. So now we got Kobe Bryant. We got Allen Iverson. We got Tracy McGrady. We got Steve Nash. Who else is on that? The 96 is wild, nigga. Steph Marbury.

Steph Marbury. Steph Marbury. Wasn't it Vincent Garnett? Ray Allen. Yeah, Ray Allen. I'm saying, I'm saying who number one. Jody got changed. Just wait, just wait. Cause we still loaded, you know what I mean?

We still loaded. You wasn't born, Swain. You were going after that. You got chill on 96, man. But I like the confidence, huh? For sure. Yeah, Kobe, nigga. come on, my nigga. But you wasn't born.

So I ain't mad at that, because it's a lot of basketball-wise. I started watching basketball probably when I was like, I used to play basketball before I even watched basketball. So probably like 84. I'm like Jordan rookie year, Bird and Magic, when they was already pretty much established in the league. Dr. J was old when I started watching.

He was old when I was young. He was already. But like in the 90s, Michael Jordan, Allen Alvison, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett. Me and Kevin Garnett like the same age. That's my nigga we used to hang out. Yeah, that's kind of the era I grew up in, watching. When I first started watching basketball

when I was probably eight or nine years old. So I would say Michael Jordan. This class is crazy. I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, the pitch is wild. Tom Walker. Yeah, the pitch is wild. Wallace.

Yeah, this is crazy. But hey man, like you said, they still loading though. They got time. Yeah, we got time. Kittles. Kerry Kittles. Niggas be forgetting about Kerry Kittles. Okay, another one I have. So let's bring it back to 2017, back when you were in Alabama Yeah, we got time. Carrie Kittles. Niggas will be forgetting about Carrie Kittles. Okay.

Another one I have, so let's bring it back to 2017, back when you were in Alabama and you guys played that Minnesota game. So viewers watching, basically what happened was seven players got ejected, one fouled out, and one got injured, and you guys basically continued the game three versus five. Can you explain the backstory of that, how that went about? You dropped, like, what, 40 points? Like, you went crazy. So can you talk about that, how that was, your mindset, all that?

No, it was one of those games where I just, you know what I mean, I was flowing, I felt good. And it was actually at Barclays, so it was in Brooklyn for sure. So it was definitely a good little game. And it was one of those games where it was like you can't control the outcome. The only thing you can do is just stay present. And Avery Johnson, you know Avery Johnson. Avery Johnson, he was just like, he was on me. He was like, hey, we gotta pick it up.

I don't care how many people out here, you gotta pick it up, you gotta get going. So it was one of those games that once I played that one, it was like, oh yeah, you definitely outta here for sure. Yeah. You know what's crazy? I had a game like that. I asked Mase if he ever played a game like that.

We was up here. I said, I had to do three on five. He was like, Cam, what are you talking about? You don't remember that? I asked you that? I think I had like 47 or something like that. Nah, I was 40. I was 11 and under, though.

Wasn't on y'all level. But I was reading that about you. That's dope. Nah, for sure. Okay, so now we're going to just get into like one or two more regular show topics. You can feel free to chime in. Yeah, I'm going to chime in on them. Yeah, okay.

So Oregon alumni Phil Knight is issuing unlimited money for NIL resources. It was reported Phil, who is 86, desperately wants to see a championship, so they're willing to pay whatever it takes. After hearing that, what do you guys think of this? Mace, I'm going to let you go first. What do you think about it? When you hear that, you might as well go get the top guys and get a few transfers and make it happen.

Go get Deion. Go get Deion. You know what I mean? Deion. That's how I feel. Amigo. Niggas said, yo. But niggas was, all right, so Deion Sanders basically opened up this door

to where niggas feel the need to cheat. And I'm not going to say cheat. They making it legal to do shit niggas could have been doing for years. Like states are making grants to where, okay, the state of Virginia, I can't remember what states we talked about on previous episodes, are at the point where they say, okay, University of Virginia, y'all could pay players to come here. West Virginia.

Huh? West Virginia. Oh, West Virginia, I'm sorry. The state of West Virginia. Or Nebraska. There's mad states now. Like, every three weeks, there's a new state that's okay. And, like, Tennessee, you could pay states now. Like, every three weeks, it's a new state. It's okay. And, like, Tennessee, you can pay players now.

Because with NIL, they're figuring out that we can't control these niggas. These niggas is coming to school with money, and we're not going to get the best players. If you got somebody like Deion Sanders making sure that his players get money, then you want to go there. Plus, not only the money, you're going to get the exposure because Deion Sanders is a marketing genius. So Nike said, fuck y'all talking about.

I don't own Nike, nigga. Everybody comes to Oregon. Unlimited Nikes. Fucking keys to the Nike store. I don't know if you ever been to Nike shit in Oregon. Nigga, crazy, nigga. You just go in there. Everything like Air Force Ones is like $6.

All type of shit. I left there with seven like Air Force Ones is like $6, all type of shit. Like you just go, I left there with seven shopping carts. I just was, seriously. I'm sure. You been there? Yeah, yeah, I'm with Nike, so yeah, it's lit. Yeah, on campus.

You just go on campus and you sitting there and I'm just like, and I'm not even exaggerating. Like seriously, like Air Force Ones is probably like $19 or some shit. Wow. I just filled up as much shit as I could today. Like, yo, you kind of ODing. I said, I didn't know it was a limit. I just was buying everything. So when you got somebody like Phil Knight saying,

I want Oregon to win. I'm from Oregon. And whatever we need to do to win, let's do that to win. Because they haven't won. And it's a great, like when I went to see Colorado play last year, the atmosphere is dope. Deion had that shit packed. It's really, it's a great atmosphere.

But, you know, Bo Nix and them niggas was like, nigga, Bo Nix, them niggas, you know, I like Bo Nix and them niggas. Them niggas was really on they shit. So I like the University of oregon and i know i'm veering off the exact topic i'm just having a flashback i actually see in the games cheat code nigga i would cheat too i would cheat too i would sit here and it's not cheating but if i could give him when you say unlimited money you gotta realize nike's worth eight billion dollars something like that so it's really unlimited.

Not only that, niggas love Nike. So imagine getting paid and getting free Nikes. If you got time, everything I would be doing is going to get $12 Nikes from off the campus. It's right there. Get away with what you could get away with, man. That's what I say. I ain't mad at it.

Yeah, I think if Nike is serious about what they're talking about, Get away with what you could get away with, man. That's what I say. I ain't mad at him. Yeah, I think if Nike is serious about what they talking about, reach out to Jing. Jing got a few players right now. He got this 16-year-old kid that could turn that Oregon program into one of those programs. I forgot the young boy's name, but he's like 6'6". He's 16 years old and played at two. He's like phenomenal at this age.

And I think another thing, Phil Knight, you could do is sponsor the show. Sponsor it is what it is. If you want players to come there, what better way to get players to come there than to have me and Cam telling people to come to Oregon. You know, I'm originally a duck bugs, but we'll let Cam show up too. Put the camera on Cam because I know, you know, he wasn't with us at first, but unlimited Nikes, unlimited money. Cam can be a duck bug too.

Look at him. Look, let me confuse the two things. I fuck with Nikes. Nikes is my stuff. I fuck with Nikes. A Nike's my shit. I fuck with Nike. Did you battle on Colorado for the duck bucks? No. That's what I'm saying.

Now, I understand Phil Knight has a relationship with Oregon, but it's still two separate things. It's not the same shit. Get balanced. Yeah, I'm not. It's two separate things. I ain't going to do that to my nigga Deion. You was over there.

You're a sucker, too. You went to the game and went on the other team's sideline last year and started rooting for the other team, man. That was some foul shit. And you know what, Deion? I think Coach Prime in town. I'm about to hit him and see if he in town, man. I'm about to call this for him right now.

I was just going the other side. That's where my tickets were. I had to sit with my tickets. All right, so you don't want me to call this for him I was just going to the side that's where my tickets were I had to sit alright so you don't want me to call them alright see I called Jamal Crawford the other day

when Jing was acting crazy now I'll start calling roller decks loaded so we've got time for one more before we close out so basically Angel Reese went live

addressing many of her DMs asking to get flown out she said the delusion of y'all thinking I'm fin to fly any of y'all out. So what is you guys' opinion on her response? And then how do you guys feel about men getting flown out? And we'll close the show. Men getting flew out.

Ask Maurice. Maurice gets flew out all the time. I don't mean that towards his marriage, you know gets flewed out all the time by UConn. What do you think about this, Sexton? Honestly, I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one. I don't know. I don't know.

That's crazy. That's crazy. I thought we was talking about diversity. Niggas getting flewed out. Girls was getting flewed out. Yes, man. All right. Listen, man.

What would that make you, a gigolo? So if a nigga fly a girl out, is she a prostitute? No, I just wanted to know. I don't know. What about if you get flew to Dubai? What would that make you? Yo, white, if you get flew to Dubai, what that make you? Prince Hakeem or somebody.

I don't know. Pissing on them bitches. You're the prince. You're definitely the prince, man. Look, I believe in equal opportunity, man. If you like somebody, that's on you. Me, personally, you can't buy me. I'm not for sale, and I'm not sitting in coach.

That's first and foremost. So if they fly you out, they got to be first class? You can't fly me out. I'm just talking about niggas who get flew out. I'm unflyable. You can't buy me out. I'm just talking about niggas who get flew out. I'm unflyable. You can't buy me, nigga. I want to ask Colin one thing before we actually go, though. What do you think about what Jalen Brunson did,

taking $100 million less for the New York Knicks? Do you think that was honorable? Do you think that, and two-part question, do you think that was honorable or smart to do? And do you think, as his career goes forward, if he stays with the Knicks, that they will do the same thing for him later on in his career and make sure that he has a good contract? Because we sit there and see players like Dwayne Wade and LeBron James

take less money to play with Miami. And then when their contract is up, Pat Riley doesn't want to compensate them by giving them a better deal, And they all end up leaving. But they end up going to four straight championships and winning two out of four. What do you think about the Jalen Brunson situation? Honestly, I feel like that was very mature. That was very mature on his situation to not be greedy.

And he knows at the end of the day, like, he goes as far as the team go. And if they got aspirations for a championship, sometimes you got to bring in more guys. It might be another superstar. It might be someone that's going to come in and as the team go and if they got aspirations for a championship sometimes you got to bring in more guys it might be another superstar it might be someone that's gonna come in and help the team so in that situation i could i can i can see it but you also see like some guys like i ain't giving up nothing but adenobi yeah oh jesus i ain't none of that villanova y'all niggas talking about i didn't go to villanova give me 207 i already got my ring y'all niggas talking about, I didn't go to Villanova. Give me 207, man. I already got my ring. Y'all see what I did when I got here. I bring championship experience.

All that Killanova, Thrillanova, Villanova, I need 207. So not to interrupt you. No, that's real. But at the end of the day, I know for sure on the back end, because I was with those guys, especially when I was with CAA, so I know for sure they're going to definitely look out for him in the future. I know that for sure. That's what's up.

Well, Collin, it was a pleasure to have you on the show. I appreciate y'all having me. Okay, that's all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.