IT IS WHAT IT IS - WHAT ARE THE JETS DOING, IS NICK SABAN COMING BACK TO COLLEGE & COACH PRIME MOVING ON FROM COLORADO?!

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

On this episode, Maurice Clarett is back to talk about the NFL trade deadline. Are the Jets wildin’ or are they making moves for the future? Then, Jerry Jones is buggin’ out to make a move like th...at when they had Parsons at one point in time. Next, with the success of some of these backup QB’s like Flacco & Brissett, is it worth it to pay QB’s 50-60 Million a year? We pivot the conversation over to college football where Shaq & some other LSU alumni are talking to Nick Saban, can we see the former College icon return to college? Last but not least, is Coach Prime’s time in Colorado coming to an end & can he be headed back to the state of Florida!  Maurice Clarett (0:00) Sauce Gardner To Colts (7:30) Williams To Dallas (19:00) Pay Or Not Pay QB’s (29:30) Underdog Picks: Lakers Vs. Spurs (40:30) Nick Saban (43:00) Coach Prime’s (48:00) Stat’s Cartoon Knowledge (58:00) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's like, whoa. presented by Underdog. If you're new to Underdog, today's the day, get $100 in bonus entries when you play just $5 with code. It is what it is. Plus, the next five people who sign up with our code will win a prize. You can make your picks right now in most states, including Georgia, Texas, and California, just to name a few. So make sure y'all support the show. Hit that subscribe button, y'all, we're on the road to a millie, lock in your bonus, and start playing today with code. It is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace and Cam, and today we are joined with our analyst, Maurice Claret.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Mo, what's good? Killer, what's going on, man? It's good, bro. How y'all doing this? Chilling, man. A lot of good things going on. All is well over here. All as well. Yeah, Mo, we see you looking, you're looking, you looking smooth, pause, you know? I'm going to buy you some palm trees. I don't like them trees for you. Is that how they say this? I don't like that for you. I don't like that for you. I like that for you. I'm gonna get you some trees.
Starting point is 00:01:32 That's gonna be my gift to the studio. What's wrong with those? You need palm trees, man, big palm trees, man. Hey, I'll take it, that's my Christmas gift. Yeah, yeah. Mesa, I'm willing to bed on over and under, you're not gonna why I'm any palm trees. I guarantee it.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I almost guarantee you won't be receiving any palm trees. I better, I better, I better solid $500 on it. He will not send you any ponches. I'm willing to bet it, actually. Everybody in such a good mood. Ain't no food stamps for nobody. Everybody's so happy around.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Life must be good. Did the food stamps go out? Did the food stamps go out? I don't think so. No, there's no... They canceled. They canceled, nigg. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I remember I used to have the food stamps, the Blue Book. The Blue Book was crazy. Yeah, I mean, I remember the 50s in the five, you trade, get like 50 cents, 50 cent on the dollar, trade food stamps. I remember you put down on your rounds, playing true stands for money on blocks I was poor at, man. Yeah. That song ever coming out?
Starting point is 00:02:54 The Brown one dollar bills. Yeah, yeah. On a food stamp. Yeah. Well, in case y'all didn't know because everybody appears, so apparently out of touch, there's no food steps. You knew that step? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I actually feel very strongly about that. How do you feel? Very upset. Like, I just feel bad. Like, y'all know I'm like the first one to want to volunteer, the first one to want to give back to all that things. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You can actually do it now. I'm pretty sure through, it's either Instacart or Uber Eats, you can actually send it to a family in need who needs food. So like, there's a lot of, there actually is a lot of way to give back. How much have I? No, I said, how much you want to donate? That was a loaded
Starting point is 00:03:40 question because somebody asked me to round up my friends to give $300 for a family. I'll do it. No, that wasn't the question. How much is the maximum you're willing to donate? You're on TV. I don't know the maximum, but I'll
Starting point is 00:03:55 definitely. If you need to round somebody up, I volunteer is tribute like i you know the holidays you're always volunteering the question was how much are you willing to donate 300 i'll donate 300 and start from there i don't want to i don't want to put a max on my donations like marilla what you got i got i got 10 10 what i got 10 000 for yeah that's what's up man yeah i got some good advice I'm giving my tent towards Harlem, though. It got to be people in Harlem with us. Now, seriously, if somebody is in need,
Starting point is 00:04:41 I'm willing to donate, but does he know what's fucked up about this whole situation is that? I'm saying, trying to button my button, there we go. This whole situation is that. It's so many people out here scare me. You just don't know who to trust. You don't know if it's a family in need. You don't know who it is.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I actually seen a video where a dude is following an elder lady in her shopping cart to, like to her car. She had to be about, she was walking as fast as she could. But he was old too, buddy, because he couldn't catch him. But, yeah, I don't know if y'all seen New York. You got niggas just running the grocery stores stealing shit. And you could tell his YNs, too, they don't even need it. They just like, this is what we doing?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Bet, let's do it. So it's just a sad situation to where you want to donate, you want to help out, but damn, who the fuck could you really trust when it comes to a situation like that? So there are a select few who do mess it up for the masses, but you guys also can go directly to the sources, like a lot of like shelters and things like that. Like you can go directly and make your donation
Starting point is 00:05:46 if you want to see where it's going to, because something that I do every single year, especially around Christmas time. I would go to Metropolitan Ministry, shout out to Tampa because they have a source where we can go. We'd go Christmas shopping. with the children and their parents just so like they could actually have care packages and things for Thanksgiving and just be able to actually directly see where my volunteering
Starting point is 00:06:05 and helping is going. So I totally get where you're coming from because people do really be trying to finesse the system and I hate that for the people who actually need it. But there are ways to be able to donate directly. So don't be scared if you're thinking about it. I encourage everybody to do it if you can. But also it's okay if you can't because times are hard right now for a lot of people. So give it up, give it up, money and things like that is hard.
Starting point is 00:06:26 but if you are able to do so i i definitely encourage it i would say that and yes maurice i will take up your offer so we'll connect after this so we can do that what amazing i'm trying to think how would you how would you get the money to them moe how are you getting the money to them oh no the lady who does it uh she she legit you know she works for a governing government agency and it's what they do they take care of families but she called me today and she said hey, could you round up a few of your friends and could they sponsor a family for $300 because the people won't have resources for Thanksgiving and could you, you know, they plan on going on Sunday to get them all day money.
Starting point is 00:07:05 So she just will basically take it from me as I give it to her. But how did she come up, how did she come up with 300 versus 200 or just, I guess she was figuring like 300 will be a month for groceries or enough to buy Thanksgiving or some miscellaneous items. Okay. All right. Yeah. I think that's dope.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Okay, so we got a lot to talk about, especially in the football space. So the NFL trade deadline has passed, and one of the biggest storylines are moves from the Jets. So they sent Soss Gardner to the Colts for two first round picks and A.D. Mitchell. So before we go into their next trade, Maurice, what does this say about the Colts organization this season so far? Yeah, I think where I didn't think it before, and I will say this, I was definitely wrong about Daniel Jones and the Colts at the beginning of the year. But when they made this move, it was one of those moves to say, hey, like the Chargers did. Maybe, I don't know, maybe it was like four or five years ago when they won the Super Bowl. I don't know if it's been that long ago.
Starting point is 00:08:03 But I remember when they had traded all these pieces to sort of capture the moment and sold. The Chargers won the Super Bowl of the Rams. Yeah, Moe is wild. Rams. Yeah, the Rams. You know what I was talking about. No, I didn't, no. That's why.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Oh, you got to start with the facts, man. You got to start with the facts. Yeah. The team was in California, right? But yeah, it was the rounds when they saw on the Super Bowl, and they had traded all those pieces to get to the point where they won the Super Bowl. So I thought this was sort of the same thing with the coats. And, you know, they haven't had major success since Paying Manning one.
Starting point is 00:08:39 But I think it's like the girl, Erse, you know, the father had passed away and the daughters are in charge. I'm pretty sure she linked on the GM was like, yo, while we have a chance and while we have momentum, I think that we're going to go all in to try to even position ourselves to go on the championship run and they may be looking at the chiefs you know and saying hey the chiefs that they're decent but they're beatable right and maybe they've caught um you know what they call it you know a success in the vacuum with uh Daniel Jones and being in a new system and Jonathan Taylor running their office I don't know they just lost to the Steelers but I think this
Starting point is 00:09:13 was them pushing all their chips seeing to try to win a Super Bowl this year yeah shout out the Casey Carley and and the other sister that is running this um of the Indiana coast. I look at it like it's just what you said. They're all in. You thought with Indiana Jones, he's been bawling out. And they're basically saying while we have this opportunity,
Starting point is 00:09:36 while the NFL is up for grabs, we're going to do everything in our power, to see to it that we can win, we can win right now. And I think they're going for a Super Bowl. I think they really believe they could win it all. And this is what you do when you believe you can win. You put your money where your mouth is
Starting point is 00:09:51 because normally there'll be, players saying if we had this piece we were one piece away and right now i think that's what they're especially after this loss to the stillers right they're they're probably looking at that like if we had them last week we'd have won this game last week so i shout out to them for being able to pull the trigger and being willing to do what's necessary to get their foot in title town they want property there and you know we're looking forward to it i absolutely don't think you have They had sores gone to anyone else they were the one last week. Nick, Daniel Jones, look like he's playing that in a Giants uniform.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Three interceptions, two fumbles. There he go. There go the nigger we know. There he go. There he go right there, nigga. There go that, nigga. I knew he'd be back soon. It's almost 12 o'clock, Cinderella.
Starting point is 00:10:50 So almost 12 o'clock. but I do totally agree with you and Mace and, you know, this might be the the ghost of Jim Mersay saying, nigga, we're going this year. You know, God bless the dead. Jim Mersay just passed away. Like Mace said, the new owners and Moe as well, they're making moves to try to win now.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So I do respect that. They're saying we have an opportunity to win right now. Going to get a top five cornerback in the league and at this very moment says we want to win now. we've seen Daniel Jones not just Daniel Jones their running game has been good
Starting point is 00:11:26 the Indianapolis Coast part of me have been the best team in football thus far or the Denver Broncos if you want to argue either or but I don't trust
Starting point is 00:11:39 either one in them teams as far as going further no I don't like this is so much parody to Michael Irvin's credit a few weeks ago in the NFL that look if you if you asking me, right? And we sit here and we're looking at the standings and the division and we're
Starting point is 00:11:56 saying, damn, let's think about this. Nobody would think at this point in the season that the Patriots would be ahead of the bills right now. We wouldn't think the Kansas City would be in third place right now in their division. A bunch of other teams that I won't get into. But nobody expected if it is to be what it is. But I'll tell you this much. I would not be surprised if I see Kansas City and Baltimore in the AFC championship game. I'll tell you that. because it's going to take us enough of three, four weeks to figure out who's going to run. It's like a marathon or a race, and everybody's close to each other, and then somebody just hits turbo. And then you'll see in the next week 13, even though, you know, it's not enough, it's only about four more weeks of playing for players.
Starting point is 00:12:40 But I don't think any team right now is dominant, but I do like this move for Indiana because I do agree with Mason. I do agree with Mo that this is a move to say we need to win right now. there. But if you got that, then, you're motherfucking Jones to play last year. I know that nigga. I know that nigga. All too well, five turnovers, nigga. One game, go get sauce. This nigga reverting back, go get sauce, nigga. Hurry up. So I do like the moves that the courts are making. Sure. Marisa, did you have a point before I go? Yeah, no, I was, because, you know, I had that question when I wrote the question, it was really loaded to say, you know, what is it about,
Starting point is 00:13:22 he kind of asked a question with my mind, what is it about the Broncos or, let's say, the coach that may make you not believe in them as much as that you believe that the Chiefs will end up getting it right. Well, the reason that I think that is because
Starting point is 00:13:37 you have Andy Reed. You got Patrick Mahomes. You got Travis Kelsey. You got Jujo Schuster. You got niggas who've been there before. And then the Chiefs, then, you know, as much as a hard time, and Mace about the Chiefs, pause.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Let's be realistic. They've been there. You know, they started off this season, hobble. It wasn't like all their players were there, and they know the grit, and they know what to do to get there. You got a young quarterback with Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You got a young quarterback with Bowenicks, and when it's time to get in the trenches, you got niggers who've been in the trenches. You get what I'm saying? You have niggas who been there. Even when you think about somebody like the Patriots, if you think about Drake May, I plan outstanding this year.
Starting point is 00:14:20 But I think Buffalo will have something to say about it because they've been in the trenches. So as good as they're playing now, and don't get me wrong, I can be totally wrong about this. I'm just saying if there's no clear-cut one end, we have nine weeks left or eight weeks left for football, I think if I'm going to bet my money, I'm going to bet on the chiefs or the bills.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I could be 100% wrong. It might be, you know, it's one of them situations like, yeah, they had day time, it's Mongo. So that's how some people may be feeling about it. But if I had to bet my money, I bet my money on Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and Patrick Mahomes just because they've been there. That's the only reason, experience.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah, I was one of the people arguing another way. I was saying to myself, like, the fact that I've seen Lamar Jackson and the Ravens be so good for so long, and the fact that I've seen Patrick Mahomes be so good and so long, like at the end of the run for the Patriots, where you're still hoping that, or were you looking at something that you was holding on to rather than looking at what it is. And when I seen them lose to the bills, I'm like, yo, like, is this the team who they are or what am I looking at? That's why that's why I asked a question about the Broncos and the, um, and the coats. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:35 I was like, are we still holding on to what used to be and not basically what is? That's what I was asking. Yeah, see, the thing about it is we can sit here and, and I, and look, it comes that time for everybody. Like, it's going to be an end for somebody, right? Eventually. But what I've been learning and what I've been seeing and more or less with basketball, even football, right? You sit there and say the age on a basketball player previously to the last few
Starting point is 00:16:03 recent years, at 34, 35, you know, we may have seen Duane Wade retired 36 years old. But when you see in the 37-year-old Kevin Durant, you see in the 36-year-old, 37-year-old, Steph Covey. When you see in the 37-year-old Russell Westbrook, when you see in a 41-year-old this year, LeBron James, you're saying, God damn, these niggas are taking care of themselves. When you sit there, to be totally honest with you, and I know this is the top of the top, what I'm about to say,
Starting point is 00:16:30 but when you sit there and watch Tom Brady, Tom Brady could have played never two years, minimum. Yeah. His last game with Tampa Bay, prior to him winning the Super Bowl before that, he played spectacular. Not only did he play with Spectacular, He missed preseason.
Starting point is 00:16:48 People tend to forget. His wife was fucking a karate nigger. You know what I'm saying? He dealt with all that shit. On online talk about damn, she's going to bone the nigger who knows Jiu-Jitsu so Tom can't even do nothing about the shit. Doing yoga with her, all over that shit.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Tom going through this mentally. Tom said came to season late, not the season late, training camp late, balled out. 42, 43 years old. We're looking at what Aaron Rogers is doing now. He's looking very good Especially last week against the Colts He looked like the old Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 00:17:22 We're looking at Joe Flacco What the fuck is? So I don't think it's always about age Like we used to think it was about age So I get what you're saying But let's think about this I don't know how Lamar Jackson But Patcham Holmes is only 30 years old
Starting point is 00:17:36 He's only 30 He's 30 Lamar Jackson I don't even think he's 30 I don't even know how Josh Allen might be 31 the oldest if that Yeah, he's young. Yeah, these are, so when you see, huh? Josh Allen, Josh Allen's 29.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Then we got Patrick Mahomes, who's 30. How old is? Lamar Jackson, 28. 28. So when we say in the end of a time, not these niggas, it may be, it may be the end of them winning and being dominant as quarterbacks because the team is not doing what the team is used to do.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But as far as their quarterback capability, if we're seeing these niggas, only person I would say. Decade. Yeah, at least another decade. Only person I would say may have a shorter time spend than Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Patcham Holmes is Lamar Jackson. Pardon me, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Patrick Mahomes is Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Only reason I say that, because don't get into fucked up, he's great in the pocket too. He's great, but a lot of his shit comes off instinct, running, being able to run outside the pocket, dodging tackles, picking up 6, 7, 8, 9 yards, if not 17, 18, 19 yards. So some of them skills were diminishing. as he gets older, but at the present time, these niggas, niggas ain't even 30. I got plenty of time.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Great, great points. Okay, so also regarding the Jets, they sent Quinn and Williams to the Cowboys. The Cowboys gave up a 2026 second round pick, a 2027 first round pick, and defensive tackled to the Jets to complete the trade. So Maurice, what will this do for the Cowboys in their season at this point? Yeah, I don't think it does too much of anything because I don't think that they'll be in playoff contention. That was one, but I didn't understand it after getting rid of Michael Parsons. And I just wasn't sure what they were trying to accomplish because it's not like with them getting him from the Jets. It's not like he was making some significant impact. Like he'll help to improve the running game because I know he was a
Starting point is 00:19:36 huge run stopper early on in his career. He had made a few pro bowls and he's always been a lovable guy, at least in the New York comedian from what I've seen from him through college and just going into the NFL. But when they made this move, I just didn't see what they were looking to accomplish or like that he made some significant change to the defenses. So if I was a Dallas Cowboy fans, I would probably be scratching my head saying like, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:00 Jerry Jones, what did you do with doing this? But, you know, it didn't make sense to me. I look at it as just publicity. Like if you just adding another good name to the team, I don't really think it does anything for the Cowboys. I'm also kind of sad we're talking about the Cowboys two days in a row without Michael Irvin there. I think, look, I think to me, this is more about, when I look at these trades, right,
Starting point is 00:20:29 I sit there and say, this is more about the Jets. You got a top five cornerback with sauce. And then you got a top five defensive tackle with Quentin's and you're, and what the fuck is up with the organization? How you got two top five defensive players and can't figure this shit out? Now, teams dream to have these type of players on defense. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is dream shit.
Starting point is 00:20:52 A shutdown cornerback, top five defensive tackle. And for years, I've been putting, and now, don't get me wrong, I see when y'all tried to bust the move to get Aaron Rogers. He got hurt the first year. It didn't work out the second year. He fired the coach. Defense was looking spectacular prior to Aaron Rogers. But just the last few years, I don't have no idea when you have the judge.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Because the Jets' defense from probably 2000 to 2023, they look really. really good. What you're getting is a three-time pro bowler. He was pro bowl last year, 2003, your first team pro bowl in 2022. My thing is, I agree. I don't think this does anything for the Cowboys. Now, look, you know, everybody makes a big deal. Michael Parsons, you shouldn't let Michael Parsons go this, down and third. Now, look, Michael Parsons is an outstanding player, and you're looking for somebody to replace them. But if Michael Parsons was on the Cowboys, the Cowboys wouldn't win either. You have to put a bunch of different play.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And that's what I say. I always say it, and I'm sounding redundant at this point, the football's ultimate team sport. Because you're sitting there, you have a great, look at this great defensive tackle. Top five, not great. Top four cornerback. What, what the fuck is the problem?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Okay, now you go get Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers brings in his henchmen that he uses, his receivers, the niggas that he won't fuck. And it can't seem to get right to you. You know, it's a lot that goes into football. But to me, this doesn't change much. I think that he's a great player.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But even with Michael Parsons, let's think about this. Last year, the Dallas Cowboys defensive record was 28 in league with Michael Parsons. So when thinkers be like, oh, why are you getting rid of Michael Parsons? Listen, you don't want to sit there and throw him out on the walls because he don't give me his numbers speak for themselves. But you're still the 28th defense in the 2024 season if you're the Dallas. Cowboys. So that's why Jerry Jones might have been like, yo, you ain't going to be talking to me crazy with all this negotiation. Go to Green Bay. Be cold, nigga. We and Jerry's world. Close the roof, niggins. It's raining. Fuck is you talking about talking to me crazy. Because it didn't
Starting point is 00:22:59 make that as much as Michael Parsons is great. And then you got Dak Prescott. Then you got CD Lamb. You got all these great players and still can't get it done, man. You know what I'm saying? Football is a very tricky sport. And now I don't mean tricky like that, but chemistry and following assignments and doing what you have to do, offense, defense, special teams. We don't see more special teams, great plays or fumbles or when I say not actual fumbles,
Starting point is 00:23:28 fumbling the game this season than I've ever seen in my life. We just had a record breaking game on Sunday, nigger kicked a 68-yard field goal. Yeah. Fuck, you know what I'm saying? Dude, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I had to take the offense, too. opportunity. Duvall. Way to come home, Statt. It was too mandatory. I'm sorry. It was too good.
Starting point is 00:24:00 You know, everybody just steps in one line. It doesn't matter who it is at this point, stat. It just doesn't matter. It's an adlet. I'll feel you. I'm not even going to argue with you.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You're a transfer of portal papers. I guess I'll see new ones tomorrow. But yeah, special teams this season has been amazing or not amazing. You sit there, a fucking city is depending on a nigga foot. Pause. You know what I'm saying? Shit is wild, man. But, you know, I think that maybe this is a good move because these are two great players that you may not have known as top five defensive players for their position because they play for the Jets. Yeah. Great takes.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Just even for the Cowboys, it's a great addition, but I don't think it's going to make any, like, super, super immediate changes. But side note, just wanted to add shout out Quinn Williams because I actually met him at Pro Bowl. He's a huge fan of the show and was like he watches it all the time. So I just thought that was super dope. So hopefully he enjoys his new home in Dallas. So now we're going to bring this back to the Jets, which Cam touched on a little bit. But what message do you guys think this sends to the team and the fan bases for them giving up to of their best place? players.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Maurice. Yeah, for me, I was happy for one reason. I thought this was a direct investment into Aaron Glenn's future. And I think that what he did with Dan Campbell up in Detroit, I think he's probably sold the ownership group to say like, hey, this thing isn't going to get turned around overnight. I think they tried with Aaron Rogers to do it themselves last year. And I think this year he came out and, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:40 they had Justin Fields and things just didn't pan out the way that they intended to. He said, hey, man, I got to get some of my guys and some of my pieces in here. And it's the same thing that I think the guys named Brad Johnson who coaches the Bears or something Johnson. He's the guy who also came from that Detroit system. And you see what he's doing with the Bears. And I think that he's kind of sold him on that and said, hey, man, give me two, three years. Let me get some picks. Let me get some guys. And they start dealing these guys, knowing that they would probably have to pay them more in the near future. And so it's that. But I think that's the message.
Starting point is 00:26:13 you're going to hear moving forward. But they're not in playoff contention now. So there's nothing to worry about now. But I think that's the message of sense to the coach. Like, hey, you are our guy. And we believe in you. Then also to the fan base to say, hey, you know, like let's look forward to the future and let's bring all new guys,
Starting point is 00:26:29 all new blood in here, watch everything. You know, so I was in here before we're out the door. Yeah, I think that's exactly what I was going to say about them. They're actually blowing the team up because they know they're not going to get it done. but I was more so going to just say in different words that they were just going to restart, you know. But I also want to pay attention to because Aaron Glenn is, he played a lot of football early in his career as a young man up in Humble, Texas. So definitely he probably doing Dallas a favor by sending all these players to Dallas because he could have sent them a few places. So I look at it like, you know, he's giving back to the city.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Or what players he said? No, I'm saying from the Jets and then players to Dallas. All right. You only son one player to Dallas one. Yeah. I said all these players, I didn't know he's talking about. There's more to come. See, there he goes.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You got to be quick on your feet. You got to be. No. It must be next year because the trade. The trade line is over. I'm going to lean, pause a little bit towards what Mo said. We're saving money. Source Gardner just did an extension for $120 million
Starting point is 00:28:01 that the cults are going to have to pick up. This dude here, I was looking at his numbers for Quentin Williams, and this is a little too many zeros they got for this nigga over here, man. But it's just... 124? I'm trying to... Let me know what his last deal was.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Because they got like $9.96 million. Okay, there's somebody there right and right. Yeah, I just looked at it. So you look at this, right? You're saving yourself because you know you're not going to win, right? You know you're not going to win this year. I don't know which expectations were for last year. I think the Jets' organization
Starting point is 00:28:40 is in disarray from the players to the ownership. You have an owner on the Jets that was saying he can't get with Justin Fields. And then Justin Fields goes out in balls and then basically says, I can't pay attention to the outside noise about people. How are you saying that the owner is outside noise? You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:59 Like, yo, this is a nigga, I can't pay attention to outside noise. That's the nigga who cut the check. But to his credit, the owner shitted on them. So I just think the Jets organization is in disarray. and I think it's not going to get fixed this year and you're saving yourself over $200 million on two players and you're like, we'll figure this shit down the line
Starting point is 00:29:18 because even with these two players, you're not going to win. So that's how I'm taking it from a save money's point of view. We're not going to win this year. I don't know, I doubt we win next year. Let's start figuring out at least a step forward for next year and get some of this money off our salary cap. Okay. So also speaking of money, because we're having a lot of money conversation.
Starting point is 00:29:41 So as an owner, when you see Flacco having, take some success with the same team Joe Burroughs has, and then Jacoby Brissette doing the same kind of thing with the Cardinals, what do you believe goes through their mind when paying other QBs, those 40 and 50Ms for those contracts, Maris? Yeah, and I want to start this by saying, I know Joe, not Joe Burroughs, Joe Flacco isn't Joe Burrow, and I know Jacoby Brissette, you can argue. and say who he is or who he isn't with Kalimer. But I was just thinking, you know, and I was posing this question,
Starting point is 00:30:13 if I'm an owner sitting in the box and I'm paying a dude 30, 40, 50 million, and then I go out there and it's a backup that I'm basically paying him minimum wage, right? He might be making a million, two, three, four. I don't know whatever league minimum is or whatever the league contract is. Like it has to go through your mind
Starting point is 00:30:29 that you say, man, am I thinking about this thing the right way with having so much money wrapped up into one position? You look at Atlanta, you look at how much money they wrapped up in between Michael Pennix, Jr. and Kirk Cousins, right? Are you to see all these quarterbacks getting shuffled around paying so much money? And for me as an owner, I would have to say that $50 million is better spread out with an offensive line, a defensive line. And maybe you don't need a superstar quarterback to win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I don't know, but it has to go through your mind. And the question I had, it was really more for Cam thinking about, you know, you see all this stuff with Joe Burrow and you see he, he's basically had the same team. You had Joe Flacko, who didn't spend the offseason with none of these guys, and I was watching the game on Sunday seeing a success to have with T. Higgins and Jamar Chase. And I just think to myself, I'm like, man, when you have a cheap owner, does it go through your mind to say, hey, man, can I do without this guy, no matter how popular he is? And so, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That was just a question I had to everybody, but that was my take on it. Okay. When you sit there, let's deal with Arizona first. Cala Murray is going to have to sit down. That's just the way it's going to have to be. First of all, and I like Cala Murray. We met at the Phoenix Suns game. Cool, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Very cool. But that's how football is, man. It's continuity. It's who's going to give you the best chance. We've seen a bunch of players that have been really good have to sit it on out because of injury. That's how we got introduced to Colin Kaepernick because Alex Smith was hurt. And when Alex Smith got hurt, I believe at that time, he was 20 and 1 as a starter
Starting point is 00:32:02 for the San Francisco 49ers. 20 and 1 but niggas said but this is working right now and you know I'd be trying to explain this to sin and he don't get it he thinks quarterback should come in
Starting point is 00:32:14 every two plays like now why you just don't do black basketball subamin and shit I said what I can't make this shit up I don't know the problem
Starting point is 00:32:27 and nigga something in every three four play and then get tied and I said sin I don't make the rules it just doesn't work like that I don't I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I'm just telling you it just doesn't work like that. And so we're
Starting point is 00:32:40 looking at Jacoby for set and you're saying, what's you going to do? Because the coach has stated when Callow Murray gets back healthy, he's the starter. But he said that when Calumery originally got hurt. And when you sit there and look at Jacobi's numbers the last few weeks, even though they lost, he gives them the best opportunity to win. Now, yeah, you're paying Calumary franchise quarterback salary. But at the end of the day, look, it's just simple, right? You can sit there, we've seen it. I think Mace bought it up, I don't know what show, yesterday, last week, whenever.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And I'm not saying this is a dish, so I don't want anybody to take it the wrong way. Carmelo Anthony was the man on New York, but there's losing. You threw Jeremy Lennon, they start winning. The whole city is Jeremy Lynn. Who can't pay more money? Yellow getting paid more money, but the city turned Asian. Yeah, gave my ice cream. Yeah, all that, my nigger.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I've seen niggas, you know Carmelo number is 7, Jeremy Lynn number was 17. I've seen niggas with New York jerseys. Put duct tape is the number one next to the seven for Jeremy Lynn. I watched this shit. I couldn't believe it. But you know what? Mike Dan Tony, who was coaching the team in time,
Starting point is 00:33:59 said he was about to get fired, and Jeremy Lynn went on the run, And he's like, we run into shit to show through you. You're helping me keep my job. And it helped Jeremy Lynch stay in the league for a while as well. He was living on the nigger couch thinking he was about to get cut. And he turned into a sensation. Who was getting paid more?
Starting point is 00:34:19 Mello was getting paid more. But if you're a coach, you're saying, who gives you a better opportunity to win? So that's the Jacoby situation with Cala Murray. Now, we're going back to Cincinnati. I think what Joe Flacco doing is amazing. Lamar, pardon me, not Lamar, Jamar Chase has had record-breaking, receiving numbers since, since Joe Flacco's been there. You know, I think the most receiving catches the first week, and listen, man, them niggas put
Starting point is 00:34:51 up 80 points in two games, 80 points in two games, and they still lost, which is fucking ridiculous. That's another story for another day. but we're seeing the chemistry and what I feel is this the way they're still not winning the defense isn't getting better I went and rushed Joe Burrow back
Starting point is 00:35:13 because we don't know if they're going to win it how the fuck you put up 80 points and don't win one of the games god damn my nigga so you have the same situation Joe Burrow could come back and ball the fuck out but if we the defense the defense don't do shit about it What good is it rushing Joe Burrow back,
Starting point is 00:35:33 especially when Flacco was handling his business. You know, you wasn't on the show, Mo, but I don't know how it works and I don't know the rules, but I told Michael Irvin, and he said he's going to talk to the niggas in Texas because I said, I really, really believe, and I don't know if you can, you know, maybe I'm being facetious and it can't happen. I know it can't, but I'm really, really, really told them
Starting point is 00:35:58 I was going to ask you to see what Ohio State defense was doing on Sundays. Fuck. You take a little hour drive, go down to block, and play your, fuck, bro. Y'all got the number one defense in the country right now. I know y'all can play better than their motherfuckers and with the Bengals for a fact.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I said this twice, you ain't been on the show. I said, I'm glad I remembered to ask you. Look into it, nigger. See if the niggas is available on Sundays. Because these niggins can't stop a fucking nosebleed, bro. So at the end of the day, I went and rushed Joe Burrow back. That's first and foremost. And you sit there and you say, damn,
Starting point is 00:36:42 Flacco's killing and Flacco's killing it. To where I said, damn, I see this chemistry between Flacco and T. Higgins and Jamar Chase and the niggas look good. Let me go Google Joe because this thing I have 450 yards. Let me go check out the nigger Joe Burrow. numbers and it's just and when I and when I typed the shit in the the the Google responded to me pumped the brakes nigger six games with five over five hundred and 20 yards over 500 yards I think 1112 games over 400 yards like we we like what flaco doing but don't get stupid that's what the computer told me don't don't be stupid nigga see you and we always
Starting point is 00:37:26 accusing niggas of forgetting about what happened yesterday when you acting like you forgot what happened yesterday. It's Joe Burrow, nigga. Fuck is you talking about, Cam. Now, calm the fuck down and appreciate y'all got a good offer. This is with the computer right back to me when I typed in Joe Flacco. Fuck with Joe Burrow. No, but you make it my point.
Starting point is 00:37:47 That's what I'm saying. Do you not have the defensive players because you're paying the premium do so much money? That's the point I was trying to make. Oh, I'm sorry, Mo. I mean, I've got to host. I feel, because the whole thing about it is this. This is when it goes into, what's it called, Mo, I'm sorry. I'm even forgetting tagging, tagging niggas.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Franchise tagging niggas, right? So when you franchise tag a nigger, right, let's just, and I know they haven't been franchise tag, I'm just using that as them. You franchise tag a nigger, right? That means you give them the middle salary of what the top five players of that position is getting. So, one through five.
Starting point is 00:38:32 So if you, let's say, for instance, right, you got a receiver that you want a franchise tag and the balance
Starting point is 00:38:42 is $40 million. But you can let them go, you ain't got to pay them, but somebody's going to pay them that shit. Somebody's going to pay them. If you really want to know why, to be honest with you,
Starting point is 00:38:53 they could spend money on defensive players, but I think Cincinnati is cheap. Look, they have to fight for Lamar Jackson. They didn't want to pay Hendrickson or defense. They had to fight for T. Higgins. They only paid the white nigger.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Burrow. That's the only nigga. And then Burrow had to stick up for the niggas. How the fuck I'm going to pass to myself. But if you want to blame anybody, bro, blame your team. All right? Blame the Browns for giving Deshawn Watson $230 million. Guaranteed fresh off 72 hand jobs and you ain't seen them play in over a year.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And that started setting the precedence of fucking Deshawn Watson. getting 230, I need to get 240. Hold the fuck on. If so-and-so getting 240, I need to get 246. Hold on. If he getting 246, why the fuck, I'm not getting this? Now you got that Prescott thinking he's bad than where he is. Yo, matter of fact, fuck that. I play
Starting point is 00:39:42 for the Cowboys. I won $55 million a year. Your organization started that shit, Moe. Facts. Yeah, I can't. And just for the record, before we move on, Jacoby Brissette and Joe Flack. co-played for Cleveland, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:00 That's a fact. And, and Baker Mayfield. Yeah. And Baker Mayfield. Shout out to them boys. Okay. Y'all, we're going to go to break. When we return, we will get into some college football discussions. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. So tonight,
Starting point is 00:40:40 the Spurs will play the Lakers. Underdog has Wemby at 27 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower Mace? Against the Lakers, I'm definitely going to go higher. I think Wembe has to show that it's not a flute what he just did the other night and definitely what. Better team to enforce your will on than LeBron and the rest of them. Yeah, I got to go high. This is the stage, baby. This is the stage, Wembley. Now, we know we've been seeing what you've been doing.
Starting point is 00:41:11 This is your stage. When it comes to the Lakers, they are the standard of the stage. I'm not talking about necessarily them being the dominant team the last few years. We're talking about the stage. Most championships, I'm not sure if it's Boston or the Lakers as a franchise, the stage. You know what Luca coming to do. We see what Austin Reeves has been doing, and we see what you've been doing. It's your time.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Higher. Okay. Austin Rees is at 25 and a half points. Do you have higher lower camp? See, that's a tricky one. You know, we see Austin Reeves come off a 40-point game, 47-point game, then I actually had a 50-scent-point game, and then when Luca came back, he had 21 points. You know, I don't know what to say about how this is going to work.
Starting point is 00:41:56 J.J. Reddick has been doing a decent job. figuring this out. But Luca is very more dominant as not saying that he shouldn't be, and we know what kind of score he is, but they really dumbed down Austin Reed's game when he's not there. With all that being said, I'm going to have to go lower because Lucas is playing. Yeah, I'm definitely going lower pause. Because I think when it comes to this team, they got to put the ball back in Luca hand, and Luca is going to probably have 40 because he's going to try to show off against and get the numbers he should get against. against Wimby, there's not going to be enough shots for Austin Reeves to get that number.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Okay, and then you said Luca will probably have 40, so I'll assume your answer for this one. Underdog has Luca at 33 and a half points. Do you have them higher at Lower Mace? Actually, I'm going to go higher. Okay. How money? 33 and a half points. I'm a nigga, that nigga, shoot, man.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Okay. Make sure I'll download the Underdog app, and you can make your picks too. So as LSU is preparing to replace Brian Kelly, Shaq shared. he heard through the great vine that they were having conversations with nick sabin and that'd be awesome if they can bring nick back so of course this is all speculation and this is just kind of he said she said but this is what the people are saying so maurice do you think there's any circumstance that they would make him coach again and that he would come back to coaching uh from from the looks of it from what's going on with uh him at our ESPN and him being an analyst and being able to joy well i would say joy ride around the country but go around the country and have everybody celebrate his success without all of the pressure. I don't see it with him coming back. And then when I was looking up further into just more about Nick Saban's life, I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:43:40 that my man owns a ton of Mercedes dealerships, a few Ferrari dealerships, and that he's almost made, you know, damn near a billion dollars just in other entrepreneurial avenues and events just in his lifetime. So I don't see him coming back because I don't think. that he has the same level of power, influence, and control that he once had. I think that, you know, at some point, you know, just who he was, like, just weighed a lot in the college space. But I think where he's at right now, man, I've gotten everything I want to do.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I've dominated. And it's very rare where you have people who walk out on top and know they're on top and who don't have the knack to come back. But I think he gets it. He's wise enough to just, you know, keep his legacy intact and keep it moving. Yeah, I think if there ever was a team for him to come back and coach, the LSU program would be it but like you said Mo I think you guys way too much going on and I think because of the NIL situation he just won't have the the hole on the team
Starting point is 00:44:42 the way he could talk the kids any kind of way and get them to buy into the program and force them to do things they probably don't want to do not that he was forcing them but you just won't have that dominant so for players anymore and kids are making it. millions of dollars i don't think nick saver when they hear young young niggis talking them crazy and that's exactly what it would be right now they'll be telling them they got a photo shoot all type of things going on why they they can't come to practice until they handle their media for their deals and i know that's something he wouldn't he would he wouldn't be he wouldn't be comfortable with yeah i just don't i don't see it the thing about it is when you when you're shacking these
Starting point is 00:45:27 people who want them to come back you know talking about alumni, hell yeah, you were wanting Nick Saban. But Nick Saban is like, Shaq, you ain't going to be here coaching every day, nigga. I ought to wake up and set a game plan. Like Mace just said, I got to deal with these Y-Ns, with the N.A.L. deal. You know, niggas sucking their teeth. Like, Nick Saban, you got to realize when he had a chokehold on college football, Alabama, NIL didn't really kick in. So he, like, like May said, he could, I don't think May said it, but he said it in.
Starting point is 00:45:58 a reverse order, Nick could talk to the niggas how he won't talk to him. It's you and I'm the key for you to get to the next level to the NFL. Get to practice early, nigga, if you want to make it. You got to get, you know what I'm saying? And then the proof was in the pudding how many NFL players that
Starting point is 00:46:14 he's produced and I just think that time is gone. You think about, and then you think about LSU and what they've seen. You've got to understand this, you know, you don't get that all the time. And, you know, we just talking about Joe Burrow and for those people
Starting point is 00:46:30 out there for who's the stat masters and want to be like Cam, I don't know you're talking about Joe Burrow, I just want to let you know I had one 500 yard game in four and seven or eight, if I'm not mistaken, 400 yard games. I was exaggerating for those to know, but back to LSU. Last time
Starting point is 00:46:46 you've seen greatness, it was superheroes and I talked about this a few episodes ago. Joe Burrow, think about this. Think about this. Just think about this if this was the NFL. You got Joe Burrow, quarterbacking Justin Jefferson
Starting point is 00:47:01 and Jamar Chase now you already got not saying T. Higgins ain't nice because T. Higgins like but imagine Joe Jemar Chase I mean pardon me Justin Jefferson on the other side this is what you had
Starting point is 00:47:11 at LSU man and I know y'all want it back but these are generational talents that don't happen but I get what shit coming from I would lobby for it too if I could but you got to you know to me coaches
Starting point is 00:47:23 outside of physical shit have to work harder than the players. You got to be there before practice. You have to be there after practice. You have to lay out a game plan in between practices. You have to study and watch tape. It's hours and hours of work outside of the game. So, and like you said, he made enough money. And Nick Saber has to be in the 70s right now. It looks great for his age, but I would be enjoying life for Farser. Yeah, and he definitely is. I didn't even know about the car dealerships thing, but nine car dealerships, most of them bends and just in different cities.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So I know he's just chilling and enjoying his post life after coaching. So shout out to him. Okay, so we've seen how Coach Prime has changed the game. Maurice, what are your thoughts on Prime and in the current state of his time in Colorado so far? Yeah, it may not be a popular thing to say, but I was having the conversation earlier and prime my dog. And I see that he's trying to hold it out for Colorado and do the best. best that he can. But the fact of the matter, I'm going to regurgitate what everybody else says.
Starting point is 00:48:31 He just doesn't have the players. But it's in addition to that, I don't think that Colorado is a place, you know, aside from Chador and aside from Travis, that I think he can ever get the talent that I think that he needs to win. And as to those shots to Colorado, I just don't think the brand is as big as him. And I think that like all things, like things ran their course in Jackson state and then things ran their course in Colorado and I know that they committed to him and gave him some money but I was like I don't want to say call it getting messy but I would love to see prime at a place like Miami where you can attract top tier talent and you have more brands and resources that sort of fit or that are compatible with who you are and so just my opinion you know I think
Starting point is 00:49:16 he's doing good and right by Colorado because they've done good and right by him but just personally when I see him just, you know, somebody hanging 50 points on him two weeks in a row, just knowing who he is. When I see him at these press conferences, he can't even comprehend this shit. You know, my dudes won't play hard. I see they brought Ray Lewis in the locker room the other week. And I said, man, do even these young dudes even know who Ray Lewis is and what he's accomplished and who he was?
Starting point is 00:49:40 And I just seen the guys looking at him, and I just don't think that they got it. And so just for me, I just wanted to see him just be put in a better situation to get the athletes that some of the stuff that he's saying to these guys, they actually get. and can go out and perform and do some of the things that he wants to do. And that's no knocks to the current talent at Colorado, but there aren't levels to the sporting world and just Colorado and Prime
Starting point is 00:50:03 had a moment in time, but I think it's, you know, he just needs a bigger stage that attracts bigger athletes and more money. Mo, are you trying to say just that fast that, like, is over for Coach Prime at Colorado? What are you saying? Yeah, I want it to be just because, like, I think, like, so I think he's such a premium athlete
Starting point is 00:50:24 and some of the guys you have around a program or premium guys, right? When you're building these programs, man, just some of the things that you're asking these dudes to do and where you want the program to be, and it feels bad because I feel like I'm talking about kids, but I'm not meaning it in that way. I just don't think that you can attract the kids to Colorado.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You can influence your son to come. You can influence Travis to come, but I just don't think you have the ability to attract kids to Colorado. older Colorado. I just don't think people are signing up when you can go to, you know, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where you have the historic program of Alabama, if I can go to South Florida and be in Miami, or I can go to anywhere and basically get the same money, but compete in a better conference or have a more supportive structure around me. And what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:51:08 is that as big as Brown's personality is, as charismatic as he is, sometimes I think that you just may be in the wrong situation. That's just my opinion. Miami's brand of football is bad boys swag brash allowed all those things of niggas to a large degree i think prime fits that more than he even fits florida state because prime going to be able to manage niggas you know what i'm saying and if you look at you know palm beach county on down just down to south florida i think he does that well uh but that's just my opinion from watching college football and you get in the right pieces of the puzzle but that's just that's just my opinion i just want to see what y'all thought about yeah i think i think he he need to go back to his alma mater and um florida state i think it
Starting point is 00:51:51 would be perfect for him there um when i think of miami will be will be excellent for him i just don't see them bringing them there but when it comes to prime i just think even when it comes to colorado like going out there spending time in the aspens and things like that i just don't believe it's for like like like urban kids urban kids are not really looking forward to going to the snow and things of that nature. So it's not a prime location for Coach Prime, I think. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I think it's about the programs, like you said, more, because niggas will go to Michigan. It snows. Niggas will go to Ohio Snake. It's freezing. Those are teams. They'll go. Absolutely, y'all.
Starting point is 00:52:41 It's just about to like what you said. And I can't speak on work for Coach Prime. You know, we're going to get him Coach Prime on the show sometime this year before the season's over. But, Mo, I thought that was a great take, what you said. You know, you're sitting there and you had, you got to think about this. He's had a quarterback, and I know we're not speaking for defensive. Like you said, when defense, you're getting 50 points on your defense consecutively. That's a problem.
Starting point is 00:53:11 But even when you think about quarterback, he's never had a. another quarterback for probably like the last nine years, probably from high school, going into the HBCU, then coming to D1. This is the quarterback you had, you know, primarily since you've been coaching. So that's no excuse for the defense, though, but I know it's frustrating for him. You know, when you're a winner, you're a winner and you're not used to anything. Like, think about this. I don't know if people remember when Coach Prime first got to Colorado from Jackson,
Starting point is 00:53:44 He walked in that room and told them players, y'all might want to get in the portal. Niggas coming. Y'all might want transfer out, do what you got to do. Told these niggins that's the first day because they was like, they won one game previously that year. And Coach Pryne was not going to let that happen. So he told them straight off, y'all might want to get in the portal. He told the quarterback that shit. I was like, damn, that nigger, ruthless in a good way.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Because it was a good way to say, you're not going to get any run here. You might as well go figure it out now. I totally get it. But what you just said, Mo, is great, too. We're in a situation, right, where young people are not knowing who these older players or older people or older entertainers or any of that is. And so, like, last year, right, when you first get there, the energy is good. Travis is there.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Coach Prime just got there. Shador is there. So you got everybody coming through. There's new energy. You know, I went to a few games last year. I didn't see him Carmelo and Anthony, the Kevin Durant, the Russell Westbrook.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Everybody and everybody was there. Offset was there. It was just everybody was there, and that kind of died down. Because people don't know. Dionne Coe, he was on drink champs out of Noriega, drink champs and everything. And he made a really good point.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Dion Coe's a comedian, really good, good comedian. And he made a point to where he was at the BET Awards, right? Well, and they got Kansanat coasting it or whatever. And Kassananan is going around basically brushing off older stars now at the BET Awards. This is where you give awards and flowers to legacy artists or legacy entertainers or legacy athletes to where they've been doing their thing. and you're sitting there saying
Starting point is 00:55:39 this person has put 20 years of music in this person has put 20 years as an athlete this person has put 20, 30 years as an entrepreneur et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And you got a 21-year-old hosting it and when he goes around saying, I don't know these niggas, they feel to get offended while they ran down on the niggins.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yo, what fuck is you? You're trying to play me on Twitch? Fuck as you got, fuck you got going on. I'll talk to you later. But to Kansai's point, he don't know these niggas. He took a job. He came to do the job. That's that, to me, that's B.T's fault.
Starting point is 00:56:12 You put him in that position because he's lit, but not recognizing you put him in a position to diss niggas. Because Dionne Cole said, it wasn't just while late. He said, Drewski knew who he was. He's like, yo, don't pay him no, my OG. And he said, Druski went up to Kansai. I was like, yo, that's the OG Dionne Cole. And he was like, all right, what's up?
Starting point is 00:56:32 And brushed him off too. You get what I'm saying? When you put people in these positions, they don't know the older artists, athletes, et cetera. The reason I'm even saying all that, Mo, is to go back to your point of when you said, you got somebody in the locker room like Ray Lewis. And the kids probably don't understand
Starting point is 00:56:48 what the fuck Ray Lewis about. They don't know the dance. You know what I'm saying? They don't know all the shit this nigga did. My name, you know Ray Lewis dance? Exactly. Exactly. You know?
Starting point is 00:57:00 I know who Ray Lewis is. I don't know the dance. You can know Ray Lewis and don't know. You gotta know the dance. You gotta know the dance. You gotta do all the type of shit that do some, yo. You gotta know the Ray Lewis dance.
Starting point is 00:57:11 But I respect that you don't. But this is what I'm talking about. You want Coach Prong, to get niggas down there? How a young boy? High a young boy, they'll get recruit everybody, nigga. Hire a young boy, niggas will be flogging down there say young boy coming in three games.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Niggers will run to sign down there. I'm not being funny, but I'm not. You're not. it's that's what you got to do because that's the age group you're trying to get. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:41 So I kind of want to add to that because I am like very much a prime example of that and it's not like I'm trying to be ignorant and it's not like I'm trying to be disrespectful on purpose because I think that sometimes people misconstrued like not knowing as far as like you're not willing to learn or you don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It's just literally different eras, different times. Some people grew up on things that I didn't grow up same way that I know things that y'all might not have grown up with. Like a perfect, no, a perfect example, and I'm gonna use one. Even though like I do know who Wale is, I love his music, but he didn't in that situation. Me and Sin even argue about cartoons and stuff. And like, Cam knows exactly because I don't even,
Starting point is 00:58:22 I can't even give you an example of the show because I don't even remember what he was saying. He was, yeah, Sim was mad. We, me and Sun had a bet, and we called Stad on the three way. And Sim was mad that she didn't, didn't know who Alf was. He caught a whole attitude. Then he got mad because she never heard a Webster.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I bet him every person he named. You gotta know who. Why should she know who Webster is? That's why I won't have been. That is born in 2001. Webster came out in 1984. Like, how would niggas know? See, the reason why niggas, like me, murder,
Starting point is 00:59:01 and even Mota, certain instead, even though we're a little older and more, the reason we know certain shit like Dennis the Menace or Dallas or the Beverly Hillbillies, because we only had 13 channels. We didn't have 1,000 channels. We ain't have no fucking apps. We had to watch what was available to us.
Starting point is 00:59:20 We didn't have a CD play in the beginning. We didn't have a tape. You turn the radio on, whatever's on the radio is on. Whatever's on NBC Thursday night, that's what's on NBC Thursday night. These kids got options. A lot. Damn, my TV right now
Starting point is 00:59:35 I got 4,000 channels. Like, yo, how the fuck? She posted no Webster and Alf. And what was the last one? I don't think it's punk. No, it was the Cosby show. He was asking me about... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Do she know Little Rudy from the Cosby show? He said, the only nigga I know in the Cosby show is Bill. Yeah. Oh, my God. Let me ask you a question. Why does she know Webster? Because he's a black boy. What?
Starting point is 01:00:03 That doesn't even make sense. That doesn't even, I could list five TV shows right now that you never. You should know black people. You should know your black history. I could list five TV shows right now that you probably never seen or heard of in your life. Are they black people? Yes, and they're cartoons. Who? Do you know a regular show?
Starting point is 01:00:26 You don't know Chowder? I know a regular show. Okay, who's the main character, a regular show? I don't know his name. What does he look like? Because he's a very specific, bold color. This is what I'm saying. You got no Webster, though.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Everybody in my group. Not what Webster is like not knowing, let me give you somebody. Who would Webster be if he was an artist? That's like not knowing. Give me somebody, Mo. This is not a good example. I'd rather have a nigga know Arnold than Webster. And I know who Arnold is, but.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Who's Arnold? The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the nigga with the yellow spikes? No. Yes, he is. Oh, my goodness. I'm not talking about that. Oh, well, then I don't know. I'm talking about Arnold from different strokes, sports.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Oh, I definitely don't know that. I was like, Arnold, I know, like, right rats, like, all that grew. The reason I compared them to Webster, they too short people that never grew. They played kid characters, but they never grew. Niggas, you know, your murder, nigger, so you don't know the nigger that Michael Jackson used to be caught carrying around. He's talking about Webster. You know, Stats said, I know the monkey. I like, I'm not, young people so disrespectful.
Starting point is 01:01:44 It's not disrespectful. Like, when I, when I grew up watching TV and I seen even the late show, because I was even telling Cam, a lot of things I wasn't even allowed to watch because it was inappropriate. Like, my parents didn't let me watch curse words and stuff like that. Yo, murder, she couldn't watch Ted when it first came out. Yeah. No, it's almost like when people, when young guys be talking to Charles Barkley crazy,
Starting point is 01:02:08 it's the same kind of thing for me. It's like, nigga, that's serve Charles, man. And I could see how it's viewed that way, but we're consuming so many different things and there's like overconsumption. You cannot expect me to know every single thing that's going on that jell grew up with because like Cam kind of said, you guys had it on display. I would have to go back and you have to find reruns. Like, they're not even playing the same SpongeBob episodes.
Starting point is 01:02:34 You know who Martin is, right? Yeah. Okay, you're good. I didn't watch that. Like, that wasn't, for me, that wasn't my time. Yeah, I've seen the, like, the show, but I've never watched it. See, Martin's different. Mons and bad boys.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Like, Martin stayed relevant. Webster been missing since Webster. Nick, Nick, you know Webster? He doesn't either. Nick don't know Webster. Nick doesn't know Webster. Yo, Mo, you know Webster? against that.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Al Bundy, Nick knows Al Bundy. I don't know. I would have bet that Nick knew who Webster was, though. Nick, Nick is from fucking Spain or son. Nick is over there from Greece. He don't know that shit. He just learned English like seven years ago, bro. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:18 There's only two black shows that I know, and it's like my parents would have to force it on. I couldn't tell you, which was literally homie the clown and in living color, and I didn't grow up watching those. That's the only two I can get them. Okay. You saved yourself. Save myself. You know, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Sin was mad bets. The nigger Mo, not to cut you off. This is the last word I want you to say. Nigger, Sin lost about $42 in six different bets. She said, she gotta know who Rock Kim is. I said, she's not gonna know who Rock Kim is. He called, we call Statt. He said, what do you think when I say Eric B?
Starting point is 01:03:51 She said, I don't know. She said, you know who Rock Kim is? She said, no. Then he gets mad at her for not knowing this shit. And then Starr asked her parents and then her parents say, yeah, that's my favorite group going on. Yeah, literally. I'm like, y'all, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Listen, let me tell you saying. Yeah, I see why they mad with her. But this is what I'm going to say. She should know this. But this is what I'm going to say. My favorite group would never be my mother's favorite group. That's just me. But you should know your mother's favorite group.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Nah, murder. I just think that you don't realize the options that these kids have. No, I know. I'm saying, like, you knew your mother's favorite group. Like, I know my mother's favorite group. I don't know my mom's favorite group. I didn't listen a lot of music. The only time really listen music in the East Side Blood House.
Starting point is 01:04:36 My house was not really a music house. Different, different lives. So, Maurice, you had a quick take before we rap? Yeah, no, it was just in reference to the Dionne Cole interview. I've seen the clips he was talking about. And just to clarify, he was really, I think, like, once you find out who somebody is, and I think how you go about just even showing basic respect, and just like being dismissive, I think he was talking more about that.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And I do agree with it with that. Like, you know, once somebody's done something of significance that really people don't do every day and you're at a show honoring people, you know that these people who walking down this red carpet or these people moving in these places that are secluded, there's somebody. So I think that it's a basic etiquette that he was saying that you should have. So that's, I just, that was my interpretation of it.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Really quick, though, I will say sometimes it's hard to navigate that because if there's so many, obviously if there's maybe two or three people, you should do your due diligence, which is something that I try really hard to do because I never want to come across as disrespectful because I know I'm around, you know, like people who have been doing their thing forever,
Starting point is 01:05:41 legends, all that. But sometimes in a space, especially if you're younger, you can't go up and ask somebody like, is that, like, you kind of have to be able to fall on the ropes and fall in line. So in every case, that is not an option. He's talking about the disregard, though. You know, the disreliance.
Starting point is 01:05:58 regard for, it's like when you find out who the person is, is the attitude that you keep after you find out who he is. So the whole fact of not knowing, yeah, not knowing who a person is, that's just willful ignorance. But once you know who this person is, the act like they're not important is what he's talking about. And young people do that because we was all young at one time. Somebody would be like, yo, they go such and such.
Starting point is 01:06:27 You know how we would be, killer. You do it now. Amen. Amen. And on that note, unless you got a final word, Dr. DeBetha. You right, that's how nobody's talk about. Your jealous answer. Well, that is all the time that we have for today.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Marise, real quick, any updates on your show? Yeah, so every day three o'clock, we have switched. Thank you to Nick. Thank you all for the platform. We definitely appreciate it. We definitely appreciate all the comments and everything. You see the logo on the back and just wanted to get more promo. And I'm waiting on my palm trees, Mace.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I'm going to see you the address. I'm going to get you the good ones too. Because killer putting a bet out there. So now I got to see two problems you. I'm going to add a deadline. I guarantee you. For Christmas. Christmas.
Starting point is 01:07:30 He got a month and a half. If that, month in 21 days. Let's see. In the comments down below, y'all let us know if y'all think Mesa's going to do it or not. We will see by Christmas. But, Maurice, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you. Thank y'all for watching.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And as always, it is what it is. What you want, nigger, everything nigger, super size, too big necks, like when they doing them two for five.

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