IT IS WHAT IT IS - WHAT'S GOOD WITH THESE NBA COACHES GETTING FIRED AND JA MORANT WE LOVIN' THE NEW CELEBRATION!

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, are you cool with White People saying the N word around you?! Then, Mike Malone got fired a week before the playoffs by the Denver Nuggets, WTF is going on in the NBA with these coaches getting canned right before the Playoffs?? Next, Celtics beat the Knicks in Overtime, NY is now winless vs. the top 3 teams in the league, how far can NY go? Lastly, OKC beat the Lakers in the revenge game and Ayooo Ja we know you listening!  Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states including California, Texas, and Missouri just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app. Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. What's up? How you doing today?

You're chilling, man. Man, what's up? How you doing today? Chillin', man. That's what's up. Yo, before the show started, Major said, **** slave, because you got a white girl. That make him a slave? That must be a slave to the... I might be a slave, too. I got to take my slave credit. I indulge sometimes in the opposite.

I might be a slave, I'm not sure. How's it work murder? Do tell. I'm alright. Hey, if I'm a slave, I just wanna know y'all walking around. I ain't no, I'm almost like, how does it work, bro? Cause I'm partial.

I'm not 100% slave. I might be one slave on the weekends. I give everybody a chance. What I was speaking to was I think people shouldn't really be the voice of black people if they don't prefer to date black people. That's just a personal view of mine. I don't see how you could be really pro-black if you don't even desire black people. I think that's a great answer.

What if you're doing it for reparations? Like, shit. If you treat them like shit when you with them, like, yo, shut up and cook that shit, man. What the fuck is you talking about? What if that's your sneeze with them? You saying reverse racism? I mean, racism is racism.

I'm saying, what if you have a white female or a black female with a white name, but you treat them like shit and be like, yo, just shut up and cook for all the shit you did to us, man. And go suck dick when you done. I don't think the person that people are taking it out on are the people that did it. So I don't think that makes sense.

I dig that. Me personally though, and that's a great argument, not an argument to me, I have to say, for culture, cause it's a, you know how many white people be like, it wasn't me. Yeah, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. It wasn't me neither, they got abused,

but it trickled down. Sometimes it trickled. I take the trickle down, man. Me too, that's how I feel like, yo, I understand it wasn't true, but it's not my fault that your people did our people's like that. That's how I be feeling about it.

But you're absolutely right, because that's a great argument, because like this, let me ask you one more question before we start about this. You're a great person to talk to. I'm glad you're my friend. You know how you give really great answers to these questions.

So even though the most, it's still racism no matter what race you are, but I'm saying majority of the racism that happened is from decades ago, if not over a hundred years or whatever, slavery and everything else. Because they didn't do it to us, could they say nigga? Because they didn't do it to us, could they say nigga? That's a good question.

I think some people allow some white people to call them nigga. I asked you. Me? Yeah, could they say nigga? Not to me. I mean, because I don't qualify. I don't qualify. To be a nigga, you have to be one who doesn't know. No one.

Ignorant. No, I'm saying if we in the circle chilling, nah, I dig that. We in the circle chilling like, yo, my nigga. Niggas be like, yo, niggas is crazy. And we on the circle. Like, it's me, you in, it's me. It's us four niggas here.

Nick come in and be like, y'all niggas be bugging. Oh man. Nah Nick can't come in here. Nick can't come in here. That's what I was asking, Nick come in here like, nah y'all niggas be wildin' man, on some cool shit. How would you feel about that? I don't think Nick would do that.

Nick definitely wouldn't do that. No, absolutely, but he wasn't our niggas though. He wasn't our niggas. Nick would not do that, but I was just saying, how would you feel if he got that comfortable? He'd be like, yo niggas do be well. Yeah, with compensation. That's why I was asking, man. Cause some white people will be like, yo, we didn't do it.

Why we can't say nigga? Then the songs come on and niggas got to mute themselves when the nigga part come on. Like I want to be for life. You can't say nigga for life when you listen to NWA. So sometimes, and I talk about Nick, I've been around, well not even been around, seeing them complaining. Like, yo, why we can't say nigga? Why we can't say nigga?

And I'm like, bro, to be honest with you, this how I feel about certain things, and I'll just use the word nigga for example. Nigga is a derogatory word from white people that was used against black people to downgrade us and make us feel belittled in society. What we did is we took the word, spun it, made it some cool shit,

and now niggas is on some cool shit with it, and now niggas wanna use a derogatory term to be cool because we made it cool. And then not only we made it cool, y then not only did we make it cool, y'all wanna say it, certain white people, but then still could use it when you're mad at us. So sometimes they be like, yo niggas, this crazy, you talking about white people.

They be like, they're motherfucking niggers. Like, well, you can't use it, you know what I'm saying? That's what, that's how I feel about it. Like for instance, a lot of times people don't know Oxtail was food for slaves. It was slave food Now it's a delicacy shouldn't you go in the fucking supermarket shit? $35 and all type of shit for some mox to you go to restaurant shit cause man money But that was food that they gave slaves. we turned it into some delicious shit. Now it's a delicacy and you're charging us

an arm and a leg for some shit that y'all was trying to give us the left over soup. I'd just be looking at shit like that, but it's good to talk to somebody. Don't you be else on the same side of the phone. And I don't think f***ing lame. He's the only player by that.

But it was funny though. I know, yeah, murder did not mean that, like that, so. Okay, yeah, I have a couple questions. The hesitation threw me off, so first, do y'all believe that even if somebody's not black, they can say it, because y'all specifically sell white people, but what about somebody who's not black? Spanish? What's the best on that?

Yes. That's a good question, Cam. Do you think Spanish people can say my nigga? Definitely you let Spanish people call you. I'm not mad at it because they really got too much of a jump on us, you know what I'm saying? No, no. I grew up with Spanish.

Me and Murda went to school in Spanish Harlem. Yeah, you're right. And Bizo, we went to school in Spanish Harlem so they like, they better than us. Yeah. They the same thing as us. To me, me personally, I got a bunch of Spanish niggas that I'm cool with that say nigga, but don't get it fucked up.

It's some Spanish niggas too. There's prejudice too, and they like the fucking Monados. You know what I'm saying? So it depends on who you're around, but I'm not against Spanish people saying nigga because I grew up with Spanish people and don't get it fucked up neither. It's black people who don't like Spanish people saying niggas.

Well, the reason why, the reason why it's a great question, you saying you don't like it? And I didn't, and listen, what I was gonna say is I understand that because did you grow up with a lot of Spanish people? No, not until I went to school in Miami. Right. So like for me, I like my grandmother's from Spanish Harlem, so I see Spanish people all

the time. I don't feel a way about it, me personally, because it ain't like they had a big jump on us as a society. You know what I'm saying? What do you mean by a jump on us as a society. Come here. You know what I'm saying? What do you mean by jump on you? When you said, so what I'm saying is a jump, like when I say I give black people an opportunity before white people because niggas dragged us here.

We had to fight to get the opportunities that we have as black people in America. Like I was saying, the civil right movement ain't even 100 years old. We just talked about 1974 is when women were even allowed to get their first bank account. Even when we talking about a president, like we talking about Stat, how she was like,

she grew up with a black president and a new white president, like what's a white president? You know how crazy it was? Remember Jesse Jackson and Al Shaldron for president? We was like, what is these niggas doing? Because it would never happen. So when I say a jump, I mean as a country, opportunities were not presented to us

as black people have opportunities now. To me, to be honest with you, and there's a bunch of other things that we could have done growing up, but as a child in the 80ies growing up, you thinking, yeah, I got to play basketball. I got to be entertaining. And I say, you could have been a lawyer or a doctor or anything else. I intellectual, yeah. Right. Absolutely.

But that was kind of the mentality or drug dealer and enable it that I grew up at. And people who thought outside the box are brilliant for thinking outside the box, who, you know, one last. But that's what I mean as a jump on having opportunities in this country. You know, you ever see the movie The Toy? Yes. With Richard Pryor?

I was sure of Shug the Toy, he never seen it. He's like, this the most racist shit I ever seen in my motherfucking life. Nigga went in the store and copped a nigga from out the store to be his toy. And Shook said, yo, he said they wasn't picking it in and doing right, he's over this movie. I'm like, nah, it was just a movie at the time.

But I just think that now opportunities are bigger and greater to where in the beginning we don't have the opportunity. So when I say Spanish people didn't have a jump over black people, I don't think they had a lot of opportunities as well. Still ain't been no Spanish president. Well, it's just like anybody who wasn't white

had some sort of repercussions, some sort of something where they kind of had to fight to get to where they are. And that's what I meant when I said the jump. That's what I was thinking. I get that. So yeah. Yeah. Okay, so a lot of things have happened this NBA season.

That have been pretty drastic. So you all know we got to talk about the Denver Nuggets because they fired their head coach, Mike Malone, after 10 seasons. They also fired their GM, Calvin Booth Mace. The big question, Mr. Expert, is why? Why is this happening? What is going on? Are you shocked at this point in the season that they decided to fire both of them? Yeah, I really think as a as a championship organization,

this this this particular organization, because they experienced this type of success years ago, they've been thriving to get back there. They'd be hungry, pause to get back there. And and when it happens year after year that you don't make it back to where you thought we would be at this place repeatedly, they underestimated the power personnel, like I don't want to put all this on Bruce, but Bruce was a significant piece that he did all the dirty work for this team. Once they took him off this team, they're lacking that that key component.

You know, like it's great to have stars on your team, but then you need that person that's not trying to be a star. The person that just wants to win, the person that does everything that the star doesn't do that allows him to be the star. And don't get it mistaken there for every team that has a great star, there's somebody on that championship team that is doing everything that he doesn't like to do. And that's what makes them mesh so well together. Now when you fire a coach like this, I truly believe that had to be mutual.

I don't believe that they just get rid of Mike, what's his name, Mike Malone? That they get rid of him without there being some mutuality. Sometimes you want a person to go and the person wants to go as well. And that's when it's a beautiful thing. But I don't think you ever do this right here.

I think when you pull a trigger on a team like this and you make this kind of decision, it shows unstableness in the franchise and teams rarely ever win or thrive when the organization is unstable. And then when you follow this up with getting rid of the GM, it just sends the notion that they're trying to clean ship, right? They're trying to clean house. And if you're trying to clean house, it starts putting the same instability

in the minds of the players. Where am I going to be here next year? Cause if they're getting rid of him and they're getting rid of the GM, it's almost like when the Luca trade went forth, it sends a notion that nobody's job is safe and people don't work well where they're insecure. And a lot of times that word is used to make a person feel weak, but it's really saying

your job is not secure, your future is not secure, your pay is not secure, all of these things and when that happens, those are one of the four basic needs of human beings to thrive. You got to have security. Every woman knows this, but they don't think that sometimes that men need the same thing. They need to be secure. They need to know that my spot matters.

They need to know that I matter. They know that they need to know that I make a difference in this organization. And when you don't have that, you're definitely not going to win. So I think this, this, this thing alone has hindered the drive of the Denver Nuggets moving forward in the postseason. Whatever they could do now, they're a step away from that. Just because of these picks, because you get a new coach, an interim GM. I don't know if you could trust that at this point. Joker wasn't feeling niggas no more, pause man.

That's what it seemed like to me. Players, all players get what they want, man. We seen this shit happen last year with the Greek Freak. Greek Freak say, I ain't feeling niggas. Oh, you ain't feeling niggas? Get the fuck out of here with Doc Rivers doing it. Boy, Doc Rivers right in the middle. The coach was winning with Milwaukee.

He was actually winning. Same thing with this situation. I don't know this for a fact. I've been calling around trying to figure out what the fuck going on. I haven't got any concrete information, but you know how niggas mumble shit to you? You're a real fucking joker, man.

I said, all right, you're gonna see what happen in a few days. Yeah, when niggas start mumbling when they talking to you and all that, we're gonna see what happen in a few days. Yeah, when niggas start bubbling when they talking to you and all that. We're gonna see what happened in a few days, but I have no concrete information to that. But at the end of the day, let's look at a couple of scenarios. The GM actually that got fired

has been beefing with Mike Malone, or they haven't been on the same page. I don't wanna use the word beefing. And they haven't been on the same page. Tim Carley actually brought Mike Malone in and he did a great job bringing the Joker in, Aaron Gordon and getting this team to, he wasn't there when they won,

but he put that team together when they did win the championship. I don't know if he was there when they won the championship or left right before, but he's responsible for putting this team together. And the new GM has not been getting along with Mike Malone. Secondly, Mase made some very, very great points.

When you're the new GM and key pieces from the championship team aren't there, it isn't just about Bruce Brown. It's also about Caldwell Pope. He was also a very important key component. And they just haven't been doing good. But to do this right now, three games left in the season,

not only three games left in the season, it is a dog fight in the West right now. Literally a dog fight. the West right now. Literally a dog fight. Nobody is secure for their spot outside of the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Houston Rockets. The Lakers aren't secure, the Devors aren't secure, Clippers aren't secure, Warriors. Listen, these last three games,

everybody has to win or lose or whatever the case may be to get to the spot where they wanna be. And I don't think that this is a smart move whatsoever Nobody is asked to win or lose or whatever the case may be to get to the spot where they want to be. And I don't think that this is a smart move whatsoever, whether it's the Joker not liking it and they go whatever. We have to think about this. I know they lost their last four games, but Jamal Murray's been hurt

for a good portion of this season. You cannot, they're not going to go far without Jamal Murray. Let's be clear about that. Joker is the baddest man on the planet, but he cannot do this without help from Jamal Murray. We see the difference when Jamal Murray's fully healthy, as opposed to 50%, 60%, 70%, 100% Jamal Murray is a fucking problem, definitely,

but he hasn't been there, especially on this four game losing streak. So I feel bad for Mike Malone. He has the only championship in franchise history, winning this coach in franchise history, and to get canned a week before the playoffs is just crazy. You gotta think about this, their intern coach has never coached professional basketball.

He's never coached college basketball. So you basically said, okay, fuck our championship coach. Fuck the all-time winningest coach. We gonna throw a nigger in there who never done this before, and we gonna figure it out for me, and hopefully, shoulda go right. Shit fishy, man.

We'll see what happens in the days to come, but this is not the time. This ain't the time, my nigga. This is not the time for this, my nigga. If you're gonna be battling against OKC, this is definitely not the time. And I wanna add something to what Killer just said. You know, Mike Malone represent

four of the last six coaches that have won a championship. And for these coaches don't even have a team. You're talking about Nick Nurse, you're talking about Frank Vogel, we still got Mike Butt from the Milwaukee Bucks. All these players have just recently won an NBA championship and they don't have a team to coach. This is not making sense, especially if you want a winning program, I guess. Sorry to declare, you're saying they're not still

with that team that they were coaching. Cause they are coaching just not with that team. Yeah, they're not still with that team. If we just won a championship that short ago, you would think he got some leg, some leverage with that team. And to see that that's not the case is, is, is, is really putting out there. Nobody's job is safe. And I really liked that.

I wish Adam Silver would kind of get on board with this. It seemed like he may be sending the messages through the coaches instead of him doing it because there's a lot of players doing a lot of janky things that, you know, Adam Silver need to step in and apply the same pressure. And my last thing is this also. You know what would be crazy? A wild scenario. Because it's not as, I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it could happen. If Denver doesn't make the playoffs

because they're still eligible for the play-in, and get bumped in the play-in, and don't make the playoffs, that would be crazy, because we all know we wanna see the joker in the playoffs. But this is the shit you playing around with. Y'all niggas is still have a chance to go to the play-offs. But just the shit you playing around with. Y'all niggas is still having a chance to go to the playing. And if you go to the playing and get bumped, you know how crazy you're gonna look as an organization?

You're gonna look wild. Sometimes you want people going that bad that you're like, you know what? I don't even care if I make it. You gotta go. Well listen, we seen that with Dallas Mavericks. When they said that about Luka. Then what we see recently is when niggas say,

all right Memphis coach, you get up out here too. Now we're looking at Denver, we're at the point where niggas are saying enough's enough. Yeah, 2025 enough is a hell of a deal. For real, I'm tired of playing with niggas. I got the money. I'm not hiding my feelings. I really want you out of here.

You out of here today. And then what niggas is saying too, cause we got to think about this just from this situation where we're looking at the general manager get fired and the coach get fired. That's when the owners is like, nigga, I don't know why niggas they acting like we got the bread paying niggas.

Who is niggas to tell me anything? Who are you talking to? Yeah, who are you talking to, man? You are here. I think that's where it's at so far, like you said this year for 2025. I don't like the way niggas looking at me when I walk in here.

You know this is my building, right? I actually just like the way niggas looking at me when I walk in here. You know this is my building, right? I actually just seen the interview. It was on Jalen Brunson's podcast, out to Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart podcast. They had James Dolan on there. And these niggas actually said, so what is, I don't remember how they phrased it, but they basically said to James Dolan,

would you ever sell the team? And he's like, never. He said, it was like, why, why not? He was like, for what? He said, it got passed to me. I got sons, nieces, nephews, cousins, whoever, I'm gonna pass it to them. So they're like, it's nothing?

He says, nothing. There's no price. No, he says, no. Yeah, that's New. There's no price. No, he says no. Yeah, that's New York. New York and LA are teams you cannot sell. You cannot sell the Legas and you cannot sell the Knicks. You can sell the Nets. They done sold it a couple times, actually.

But the point being is some owners are just like, yo. You know, they can kick Charles Oakley out. Told Spike Lee, stop using this elevator and all that. Yeah, who told him he can go through the elevator? Yeah, like, how you coming through? Yo, Spike, I appreciate the movies and all that. But niggas, see, what niggas be getting fucked up is this, celebrity and wealthiness.

Now, Spike got a lot of money, but you got season ticket holder money. Nigga own the ranges and the Knicks and the garden. And that's just that. Stop, yo, do the right thing and stop using this elevator. Go where you're supposed to go, my nigga. He killin' you. You really be hard on Spike. What does Spike do to you?

Now, Spike, I like Spike. Spike rude. Yeah. You see Spike, Spike don't speak to niggas. I see Spike, he go, hey, what's up? And he like, keep walkin'. What did you do? I got no problems.

I fuck with Spike, Spike my nigga, but he is a rude nigga. He don't, he a head bob nigga, Paul is one of them niggas that don't. If you hate Spike, then keep going brother being. Okay, so I know y'all saying 2025, enough is enough. Hold on real quick. Hold on real quick.

And I ain't hard as Spike as James Dolan is on the thing. James Dolan told the niggas, stop going through here man, it's like that. No, you're all good. You gotta say what you gotta say. So 2025, enough is enough. I like that cause that's what it seems like it is.

Is there anybody next who you feel like is on the clock? Yeah, there's a few people on the clock that don't know they're on the clock. Phoenix is definitely on the clock that don't know they on the clock. Phoenix is definitely on the clock. All the players on Phoenix is on the clock, besides Bradley Bill. And they might be figuring out a way to go around this non-trade.

We just gonna buy them out. You know, your nigga think he's safe because he got a no trade. Then you say, you know what? We're gonna buy them out. He think he's safe. He on the golf course right now. What do you think he's saying?

You can definitely do that. We're gonna buy him out. I don't think Bradley Bill would have a problem with that. Yeah, no, he might like the environment, you know. You've been to Scottsdale. You fall in love with Scottsdale very easily. You don't see that many niggas. You can fall in love with the peace of it.

Don't go to Phoenix though. These are some niggas of Phoenix. For those who don't travel, Scottsdale and Phoenix is two different things, man. It just blocks away though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could make the wrong turn. Listen man, it's like that a lot of places.

And being a reserve. It's like that in Orlando. One side of our floor is cool, and the other side is dangerous. Yeah. So who else do you think is on the clock? I used to, for y'all Floridians, I was out there for a minute.

Y'all were like, hey, high five. I was out there. I know different parts, though, but it's okay. I was over in Cassini. The Knicks coach is on the clock, too. The Knicks. Killer, the Knicks coach is on the clock, too. That's what I was about to say.

I was about to go there when Stad X, after you finished talking. You know what's crazy? The Knicks lost last night to Boston. The nigger Sin City calls me, first half talk about, you see us bustin' ass, I didn't even know the game was on because I was like, this game really don't have implications.

We know that the Knicks are the third seed no matter what. We know Boston's the two seed, so I'm like, it's a cool game to watch, but I'm not gonna stop what I'm doing to watch it, because that has no real implications. Not only that, the Knicks are 0-10, or before 0-11 now, against the top three teams in the NBA. So I'm like, whatever, it don't really make no sense.

0-11? 0-11 against the Cavs, Oklahoma, and the Boston Celtics. They haven't beaten any three of them teams the whole season. So he calls me half time and says, yo, you see us busting asses after us. I bet you $10 you all lose. He's like, nah. By the time we about to get up the phone, the third quarter came. It was two minutes into the third quarter.

There's up at six halftime, there's damn by three, with 11 minutes left in the third quarter. So I said, I'm not watching the rest of this, man. You don't wanna bet, I went in and did some of it. I went swimming, actually. And then, when I'm leaving my house, he calls and says, yo man, fuck that. Tell niggas we don't want to, He said, could you advocate that the niggas

get Mike Malone on the show? I said, Mike Malone? He said, yeah man, fuck that man, we need Mike Malone. I said, yo man, Mike Malone ain't been fired for five minutes. He said, yeah, we gotta get rid of Timbs too. His exact words are no disrespect, cause that's our brother. He said, yeah, we gotta get rid of Tim. Tim, his exact words are no disrespect because that's our brother. He said, Tim's is our Mark Jackson.

He took us where he could take us and Mike Malone could be our Steve Kerr. I say, yo. I say, yo, the disrespect. One game, now you on Mike Malone. Now he's your Mark Jackson. Yeah, yeah. The kid is amazing. I've never seen nothing like it in my life, man. Does he believe that like Mercury's in retrograde? Has he ever talked to you about that?

He's definitely in retrograde. I say that. He definitely believes that. I don't stick up for him often. He believes that. But that whole thing just ended. So like to his advantage, if things start going correctly, I promise you he's gonna say that next. Just saying, because it just stopped. Yeah, he believes in all our UFOs and the projects, all of that.

He believes that. He's big on retrograde. That's it. That means things are going weird and things are off. And a lot of things have been weird and off. So now that it's done, if the Knicks start winning, I promise you he's gonna start telling you that again. My thing is, that shit only happen when you believe in it.

If I don't believe in the retrograde, then I'm not thinking shit going wrong. If shit start going wrong and you be like, oh, it's cause of the retrograde. Man, listen, bro, stop believing in all that shit. I'm not saying don't believe in whatever y'all believe in because you can allow to believe in whatever you want to believe in.

I'm not putting that on me. Like me, when I see a black cat, I walk right past it. I love to go to the 13th floor. All them superstitions be my good luck shit on purpose. I just go against the grain. Yeah, that's different. I definitely don't like black cats. I will stay away.

If you walking with people you split, you split the pole and all that. That I don't mind, but black cats, I don't play, I don't play cats. See that's the thing, I don't split the pole, Paul. Really? Yeah. You're like, yeah, I'm going this way.

Yeah, certain shit. Yeah. So you pick it so you do it, like you just pick it choose certain things. So pause, just super pause. If the pole is below our height, we can split it. If it's too tall, we have to stick together. I just looked at her.

How does that make a difference? You can still see each other. So you throw salt over your shoulder and all that? You throw salt over your shoulder? Nah, I ain't into the salt. No, for me it's just cats and broken mirrors. I'm good. Broken mirrors? Yeah! You don't believe in any of that stuff?

Wow, y'all. In the comments down below, make sure you guys tell us your superstitions because I want to know. Yeah, but see, just to cut you off though, it's just that that's some shit that we grew up in. Like, yo, yo, don't split the pole when you're like 11 or 12, 13. So it just like kind of carries on.

Yeah, you can't do it. It stucks you at that point. What does the broken mirror mean? It's just bad luck. For real? Yeah, like I remember I walked broken mirror mean? It's just bad luck. For real? Yeah. Like I remember I walked past something. Well, I have good luck.

Cause I walked past something. So if somebody drop a mirror and it breaks, that's bad luck. Yeah. Or if like, yeah, if the mirror falls next to you, it's bad luck. What about like a ladder you believe in or like going under the ladder and all that? I've never, not to sound silly. I don't even know when I've been around a ladder mace. I've been climbed a ladder. So when did the retrograde start? I don't know when it started but it ended yesterday so that's why I'm like I'm just saying I don't know you just never know. Sin I might be helping you out here if

the Knicks win the next game that's gonna be crazy. Oh my god. He's uploading this right now. Yes, as right now as we speak. He gonna say, Stats. He been talking about retrograde at least six years. Five, six years, I'm just saying. Y'all didn't feel the headaches? Huh? Oh, we not gonna stop this. I don't know about any of that.

I don't know. We didn't stop yesterday. We ain't gonna start this. I can't wait to hear Sin City and Duke the God have a standoff. Oh, yeah. I would give anything to see it on live TV. They grew up in the same building, yeah.

They'd be crazy. Yeah. Okay. Sin be quick, you know why? Because Duke got his own shit where he don't. Who you going with, Sin or Duke the God? Duke. I'm going with Duke.

I'm going with Duke. Because Duke, you can't persuade him. And sin don't make a lot of sense with the shit he be saying. Like sin, Duke shit, Duke be having logic, even though it be crazy shit. Duke be saying, be like, nigga in 1325, you know what the fuck happened? Da da da.

The Moors. Matter of fact, his last name is Moore. He said he taking the E off to be one of the Moors. At the time, I didn't know what a Moor was. I left the nigga and Googled it. The shit was really 1325. I was like, oh, this nigga walking around with this knowledge for no,

I'm like, who is he gonna argue with for this? You know what I'm saying? Since, yeah, like since, that nigga's Duke one time was in my house on the computer all day. And then when he finished studying Black Panthers, you know, he had a blood of Eldritch Cleaver one year, and then he's somebody else another year.

And then the nigger off the computer has sat and went to sleep and put his glasses on to go to sleep. I'm like, you've been out looking at the computer has sat and went to sleep and put his glasses on to go to sleep. I'm like, you've been looking at the computer all day, but why put on the glasses to go to sleep? I forget what he told me, but it was just ridiculous. And I'll leave you with this with Duke, because Duke is our brother, Mace know. Duke, one time he had tenants in his house.

He's running his rooms out. And he's running them out to two white females. And that's why you say the blood of Eldris Cleaver, because I didn't know, I'm learning all this through Duke. Duke says, Eldris, god damn what a dog. Mercury isn't, bruh, telling you. See, terrorist, what do they call it? Yo.

Hello. Retrograde. Retrograde in the building. I'll slap the shit out the retrograde. I'm not the boss. I'm not the boss. You believe it now? No, it isn't bro.

I got mad ghosts with me. I got super duper ghosts. I know mad dead people. I got wild ghosts of my. I'll be around super duper girls. I know mad dead people. I got wild ghosts in my career. That's like good. That's like good. Yeah, so they be protecting me. Anyway, the nigga Duke,

he got two white people living in his house and he's renting the rooms out. And, and uh, he said he's a blood Eldritch Cleaver. I don't know who Eldritch Cleaver is at the time. I find out he's a black panther who had white girlfriends. If you Google it, you know what? This is what I do.

Duke tell me shit and I just be listening. And then I say, I'm gonna Google this shit later. So I Google it to fact check the nigga, but he be on point. And so, you know, he's indulging with them, they tenants and everything. So I knew a couple of them and they called me murder. They like, yo, Duke gave us 30 days to move out.

We have to move out in 30 days. And I'm like, what happened? He said, he said, I don't know. He just told us we had 30 days to move out. So I called Duke, I said, what happened with the tenants? He said, Kim Lyons can't live with hyenas man, and that's just that.

And hung up. That was the end of it. Duke could kill sin. That's what I'm telling you. This is what you did. Lyons can't live with hyenas. And said, nah, I said, all right. I said, all right, man said, all right, baby.

Yeah, sending those bad men. Sorry to hold us up with that, but yeah. All good. So I actually want to reel it back to that game real quick with the Knicks. So the Celtics beat the Knicks 119 to 117 in overtime, which it was a good game, but we saw that the Knicks couldn't get it done.

Mase, do you feel like eventually the Knicks can get it done or have you kind of just overall lost faith in them? They're the first year is over for the Knicks, you know, I hate to say it so early Just they don't have the continuity necessary Especially if they're not winning against the the top three teams in the league It's just like they're playing to do what? To get knocked out of the second round. And I think this team is loaded with talent. I just think somewhere the chemistry is not connected yet,

and it's going to take another summer. This same team can win next year. But I think this year is over for this year, especially with the coach being in the hot seat. They don't really want to play for Tibbido. It don't feel like they're they're they're really rallying around him as a coach. And you need that kind of energy to go out there and play well. You got to have players playing for players and also players playing for the coach,

you know, and when you don't have that, no matter the talents you have, they won't they won't find a way to get it done when it get tough. Yeah, listen man, I'm gonna be honest with you. The Knicks came in with high expectations and don't get me wrong, it's not bad being a third seed, especially when we were thinking, right, let's think about this, we thought Philly was gonna be up there

thinking about who they signed and who they had with Joel Embiid. We thought that Milwaukee would be doing better. We had no idea, at least I did, and I'm not gonna say and talk for people, that the Cavaliers would be the number one seed. I thought the Knicks would be three or four, but I wasn't thinking it would be behind the Cavaliers.

So they're doing better than expected, but as far as them going far, you haven't been able to beat any of the top three seats, so that's what matters to me. We'll see what happens. Would it be a real motherfucking travesty if y'all niggas lose to the Pistons in the first round? Because the Pistons are looking really good. Now if y'all lose to the Pistons in the first round. Because the Pistons are looking really good.

Now if y'all lose to the Pistons, oh my God, New York, it might be, it might be, they might riot like them niggas in California, my nigga. It'll be a problem these niggas lose to the Pistons. So that's a real good matchup to watch in the first round, I'll be honest with you. Yeah, I think honestly, this is just one big showcase

to get what's his name, Mikell back to Phoenix and get KD at the Knicks. I think that's the whole play. I think that would be a good play. They'll have to put somebody else with it. But you know, put KD with Jalen Brunson and Towns. I don't think they're getting rid of no Jalen Brunson and Towns. I don't think they're getting rid of no Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson got too many years left

and he's kind of a friend. I'm saying them three together. Brunson, Katie and Towns. You have to give up money and a draft picker. They ain't got no draft picks. Yeah, for a long time. They got no draft picks. I don't know how that trade gonna go. Yeah, they're real stuck.

I ain't gonna hold you. They've been talking about it though. When they want it, they're probably, that's why Sin was talking shit. Because Sin was on the phone talking shit. He be dissed trying to diss my nigga KD. Then he talk about when we get to the ranch a little. I said, yeah, here we go. They have been talking about that a lot, that Katie could potentially end up with the Knicks.

So real quick before we go to break, just to Mase's point, you're like, I don't really know if I'm ready to trust the Knicks. So just looking at the standings, do you trust the Pistons, Bucks, or Pacers more than the Knicks? Or do any of those teams, you feel like, nah? I definitely want to see New York do well,

but I think right now in Detroit, definitely you could trust them over the Knicks because they're playing with that energy and you can't fall to that. You can't conjure that up. You either have it because you like the people you with or you don't have it because of whatever internal problems that are going on.

And right now I think it's just not the Knicks time. You know how they say the basketball gods and the stars align. I don't believe in all of that, but I definitely believe that there's a synergy and a momentum that comes from doing some of the right things and consistent things all the time. And I don't think the Knicks have that emotion. So they're not going to be able to fire that up in the playoffs. Like most people think they could just turn it on. Championships don't work that way.

I don't know. That's a great question, Stat. I would say to me, to be honest with you, only reason I put in trust in Milwaukee is because Damien Lilith there, but the battery that Doc Rivers has put in the Greek Freaks back pause the last few games has been amazing. I don't know if y'all been watching

what the Greek Freaks been doing, but he's having like 20, 20 assists, 35 points, 20 assists, 17 rebounds. Then he had another triple double that was crazy. His assist game has been crazy the last three and a half games. Doc Rivers told him, Damian Liller being out, we need you to be our point forward.

And he's really adapted to the role. His numbers have been, shit, this NBA breaking, because we haven't talked about it, so I don't have the numbers in front of me like I did the past few days. But they have been shit this NBA breaking because we haven't talked about it so I don't have the numbers in front of me like I did the past few days. But they have been amazing. If you haven't been seeing what the Greek Freaks been doing the last three, four games,

go back on YouTube or check the stats and see what he's been doing. But without Damian Lillard, I'm not sure about them with the Knicks. Detroit, only reason I wouldn't trust them just yet because they've been there. The Knicks actually made it to the second round last year. They know what it takes to win a playoff series.

The only pre-team that I would put right now presently out of the teams, the stat name is the Pacers because that's who actually beat the Knicks last year to go to the what, pardon me, the Eastern Conference finals. So if I had to pick a team right now, the team's that name, I would only go with the Pacers because of the playoff experience they have against the next last season.

Okay. And then with that, OKC made history, we will discuss after the break. She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall, oh, oh

Killing with this thing called trust But she really think about free. Welcome back. Now we're going to get into our underdog picks of the day. Tonight, the Kings will play the Nuggets. Underdog has Sabonis at 19 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower Mace? They play the Nuggets. Uh, 19 and a half points.

I'm going to go higher, give them the benefit of the doubt. It's no benefit. Benefit of the doubt's no benefit. That's new. Yes, bonuses, I fought with some bonus against the Joker. And niggas ain't got no coach. I had nuggets, ain't got no motherfucking coach. Not only that, looking at this right here.

Pardon me. Sacramento's fighting for a playing spot. Right, all these games, and poor, and this is a good one on the dog, this is very good because, some bonus against the Joker, we don't necessarily give the Joker a lot of credit for his defense,

but like I said, the stat that we mentioned probably, or I mentioned probably a week or two ago, he was up in steals. The joker, we know what he's doing rebounding wise, the niggas gonna steal, so if you go on some bonus, we'll see what happens, but he should get around 19 points. I'm gonna go higher, but just not this, the higher and lower.

This game got a lot of implications, because if Denver loses, they can slip to be in the play and this is wild. I'm going higher. And Sacramento's fighting to stay in the play. Hey, Zach Levine's at three and a half rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower? Zach be trying to take off to shoot threes

and dunk and all that. I don't know if he gonna get gritty. I'm gonna go higher because it's three. It should have get at least three because even if it's a long rebound, you know, for jump shot, should get three. So I'll go higher for Zack. Yeah, I'm gonna go higher too. I think when we keep saying the fact about them

not having a coach, hopefully it'd be like a substitute teacher, everybody come and go crazy. Okay, and then Yokech is at 53 and a half points, rebounds and assists. You have higher alarmists. Yeah, I'm going higher. Joker could ease type play 61, 20 and 20, you know? I know Killer was talking about Yanis, triple double,

but nobody triple doubles as like Joker right now. So I'm gonna go higher. This is tough, man. That's a lot. You're asking for a nigga to do a lot, man. Fighting for your playoff life. This is really good, man. It's close.

Substitute teacher. The thing about it is murder. The regular teacher, substitute teacher, joker got the green light with the principal. It don't matter who the teacher is. The green light, he got is with the principal, man. I'm gonna go higher because like I said, these niggas fighting for they playoff life.

So I'll go higher. Yeah. So make sure y'all use code MACE or code CAM cause a lot of these picks have been right. So make sure y'all do that. And then also if y'all want to take a swing at golf because the Masters is starting, every round Dustin Johnson advances,

the profit boost on underdog gets bigger. So activate your first playing for Sunday promo now by visiting the lobby. Y'all is real easy. So make sure y'all go sign up. So got to discuss OKC because they got their Lick Bag versus the Lakers beating them 136 to 120. OKC now has 51 double digit wins this season, which is actually the most in NBA history, surpassing the 1971 to 72 Lakers because they had the record for the most double digit wins at 50. So now OKC's at 51. Mace, thoughts? Oh man.

I know. New hotness. Thoughts on that stat. New hotness, new hotness, new hotness. That's all I heard when you were saying this. People, killer win. People can't win. They find any statistic to be the new thing. Like, oh, oh, they're the first team to win in February. Four times in a row. It's like, bro, you know what we're here for, right? We're here for the championship.

SGA, we're not going to allow you to get all these other awards. You got to get the one that counts. The one that counts is the championship. We need you to win the championship. And I'm not saying as as against you, I'm saying this in support of what you're doing. Don't settle for what status and of being a team with the most double digit wins.

No, we need seven. We need four games in the first round. We need four games in the second round. We need four games in the first round. We need four games in the second round. We need four games in the Western Conference finals, and we need four games in the championship. We need 16 wins. We need 16 postseason wins. That's what we're here for.

Nothing else is going to suffice what we're talking about. Start wanting to know how I feel about it. I don't feel pause. I'm numb to it. I can't keep dealing with all this basketball Trivia that's on a less low hanging fruit pause. I'm I'm up there I'm up there stat stop stop calling me down here. Let's somebody else answer those questions I need the questions up there like coach like they got um code camp. I'm waiting for

Champ code the champ code is what I'm looking for. So underdog, Champ Code, Code Champ. That'll be my new code. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah. Can't spell champ without camp. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

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there's no champ, man. But, yeah, I'm not even going to deal with the stats, but I will say is this is that, I would say is this is that, I would say Mase is correct. I wouldn't think the SGA would play all these minutes. He had 42 points, there's 41 points or something like that.

And I was saying actually yesterday when we were talking about this game that I would say maybe stay in the game just to get past. Mike would, to continue the record of more 20 point games of Michael Jordan and Mace actually made a statement saying that, nah, they're going to play because you don't want the team thinking that they could beat you or they like that. And that's actually what happened. No matter how many games ahead of second place Houston, of second place Houston, OKC is, they let niggas play and they kind of put the Lakers back in their place like, yo, oh y'all thought y'all did something

the other day, y'all didn't. I'm actually surprised that, not surprised Macy's right, I'm more surprised that they let them play. But all these games are important. I'm not gonna, I hate to keep saying this because let's think about this. So I'm looking at the standards. The Lakers are only, they lose this game. Now you're only one game ahead of the Clippers. The Clippers somehow, like I told you, my sleeper has crept in the fourth place. How did the Clippers creep into fourth place right now?

Nobody's seen this coming. Nobody's seen Kawhi playing, they've been on some quiet shit. And now the Clippers are actually in fourth place. Denver's in fifth place and Golden State is in sixth place. You know, you got Memphis on the outside looking in and playing and Minnesota on the outside looking in. But yeah, them niggas bust they ass yesterday. And that's just that.

I didn't think everybody was playing. The Lakers, they had a bunch of people that was probable for the game, including LeBron, including Luca with injuries, but they still played. And I was thinking that maybe their minutes might be light, but they're fighting for a position as well in the playoffs because you know what tonight is. And if you don't know what tonight is, you're wilding.

Tonight is the night Luca goes back to Dallas. So I was saying, this is more important than last night's game, but every game for the Lakers right now is important. It's not one more important than the next. But I know this game was marked on the calendar for Luca. And you know, niggas like LeBron too, because you got to think about this.

LeBron been in this situation as well. When he played with Miami and went back to Cleveland. Now LeBron didn't get traded mid season or anything like that. But you always want to go back where niggas like, where you felt the way, especially, I said LeBron left for his own Cleveland one of them. But y'all niggas wanna play with me?

Bet, I can't wait to see what happens tonight with Luca against Dallas. And not only that, Anthony Davis seemed like he has a point to prove lately as well. Like, I know y'all gonna miss Luca, but let me show you, I'm here to bust niggas ass as well. Cause Anthony Davis didn't have to come back. They could have tried to take and not just tank,

but wrap them up for the season and say he's hurt. He don't got to play, but he's came back. And to be honest with you, they had a tough place. Dallas is still in the playing as we speak. Yeah. I think it's important that they, they solidify the Lakers that third seed because fourth play fifth and Denver is a tough team to play on the first on the first arm time. I think there will be a nightmare for the Lakers

being that they got jokers so they definitely want to stay away from fourth place. What I'm saying is Murda murder The Lakers could slip to seventh place. That's how close all this is It ain't just about four for fifth You could be six or seven foot these last few games coming up depending on everybody's record at the end of the season But the Lakers are actually Looking at it one game out of seventh place are actually looking at it one game out of seventh place. Okay, and then last thing, because we didn't even bring it up,

the grenade, and we don't even need to give advice no more, but down to John Marant doing the grenade, down to the nose wipe being banned by the NFL, y'all have a favorite, like, celebration little move or no? Why don't you explain to the audience what we talking about? So basically we'll that talking about?

Oh yeah, basically in the game, John Moran, instead of doing the finger gun motions that got him in the warning, he threw a grenade into the audience, which is funny because this was also addressed up here. Show the clip. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yo, he pulled the pin out with his mouth force.

He pulled it in like this. Oh my goodness. It ain't a gun though. It ain't a gun. I mean, Josh, listen. Josh, been a teacher. It's not a gun. So we cool with that.

Yeah, killer said, you don't care. At this point, throw the grenade. You win all of it. Me, my opinion, my opinion is this. Let me be clear. I fought all the ignorant shit. I've never been, only reason I was against certain shit is cause I wanna see John Moran play. You know what I'm saying?

Like if it's gonna cost us not to see the kid play, cool. I went, oh, I'ma go against the gray nigga. I do everything against the gray. I don't do anything that supports the regular programming of America. I go against, Jabaret, keep it up. I'm with it. As long as they gonna let you play, I'm down.

You know what I took from the grenade? Fuck you took 75,000. Make it a hundred. So find me a hundred. Fuck y'all find me a little 75,000. Make it 150. Fuck is you talking about, man? It's like, look at Drake had a song on.

What did Drake said? Niggas Drake said, I'm upset. Niggas trying to put a half a million on my head. Pause like that's going really do. Like, you know, that's gonna really do something. Like you know what I'm saying? That's how I took it from John Moran. Nigga, I went all the dumb shit.

What we got going on is this. Adam Silver is letting it slide. He throwing these fines because I think he thinks that John Moran's a commodity. And he sees like, just fine the nigga, man. It don't matter. So John, I support it. I don't want you to think I was ever against it.

I was only against it because I thought I wouldn't be able to see you play. Alright, you want another one? You want another one? You want me to give you one more? Give him one more. Give me one more. Pause. Pause. Pause, you want me to keep? Pause. You want me to keep? You want more.

If he does this, I'm convinced. Let me give you one more, pause. Let me think about it. Tomorrow, when we come on, I'm gonna have something else. Cause the grenade in this was crazy. I thought that was brilliant. I liked that a lot. Let me think of the next one. But if you like it, I love it. Pause, I don't give a fuck. I thought that was brilliant. I liked that a lot. Let me think of the next one.

But if you like it, I love it. Pause, I don't give a fuck. I'm with all that. Adam Silver, we obviously know that we made some talk about it before. He's like a substitute teacher. Cause David Stern would never have this. David Stern would be losing his motherfucking mind.

We wouldn't see Jabba Red for four years. Next time you see Jabba Red, he would have a full blown beard, he'd come back speaking three different languages and shoot and he'd be a lefty, but time you see him again playing with David Stern like this. We used to talk about before the show, shout out to my nigga AI, AI was about to put the album out, Murder and Numb was around AI, was about to put the album out. Murdered and that was a real AI. But they didn't put the album out.

David Stern said, come in the office, man. We ain't hear one track. We never heard the album, because David Stern put a stop to this immediately. But listen, get out of the silver, let it slide, because I'm wearing ignorant shit. So Jive, you ever got offended by what I was saying? I was only mad because I thought you wouldn't play.

Nigga, the grenade, I loved it. I loved it nigga, I loved it. I got one more, the more I got a few things. I just wanted to make sure we do it right. We the one who told the nigga, Ant-Man when his shoe came out, take the shoe off, kiss it, and throw the shit in the crowd. And he did it.

Now he ain't do it, but Jimmy Butler lost his shoe, and Jimmy Butler stole the idea, and he kissed his shoe. Beautiful. Yeah, look, our marketing is crazy, man. We actually about to open up a firm, Beth and Giles. If you ever need marketing for anything that you wanna do, we're available to get your brand off the ground. Doesn't just have to be basketball.

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It does. It definitely does. It's gonna sound like a law firm, but it's a marketing company, man. Yeah, man. Okay, y'all, that's all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. Stay tuned to see what the celebration should be

because I'm ready to see it too. And we'll see y'all tomorrow. Thanks for watching!