IT IS WHAT IT IS - WHO IS THE NFL MVP, WEEK 11 IS WHEN THINGS GET SERIOUS & AJ BROWN GOTTA STOP CRYIN'!

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:02 and today we are joined with our analysts, Arabia. Hey, guys. How are you? Hello, what's good, what's good, Arabia? Hey, hi, everybody. What's up, everyone? What's happening? Hey, chilling. Glad to see everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Arabia, glad to have you on this Friday. Thank you, y'all. I'm excited for the Friday show. I'm trying to see how y'all get down on these Friday shows. It's not strict on the earlier shows, but I feel like on my show, we get a little loose, like casual Friday so I'm excited yeah nice little switch up okay so we're gonna start with this Thursday night game so the Patriots beat the Jets 27 to 14 making the Patriots nine and two so my
Starting point is 00:01:45 question of y'all is are the Patriots really like that is it time to take them serious Arabia what are your thoughts what do you think um I think you have to take every team in the NFL seriously and that's not just like a bipartisan politically correct answer I think we give a lot of a lot of concern to some of these better teams, but you're still lining up against professional athletes. My concern, really, unfortunately, is for Justin Fields and the Jets. Watching Justin Fields play football is like watching somebody try to eat soup with a fork. It's like, damn, I see what you're trying to do, but you're just really not getting the job done.
Starting point is 00:02:25 And then you look, and it's like Tyrod Taylor is there, and Aaron Glenn has been doing this thing where he's been trying to not reveal who he's going to go with beforehand. And they were too and no since they started doing that. But now I think they're seeing that Justin Fields just is not it. But the Patriots look really good. I think it's unfortunate that they had this dynasty and then they kind of like get this post-dynasty lull and now we see a resurgence before the dolphins even get a chance before the Jets even really get a chance to research.
Starting point is 00:02:54 But, you know, I think I think we should all be taking the Patriots seriously, yes. Mace. Yeah, I think the Patriots, I think the Patriots are, it's definitely time to take them serious at 9 and 2. You know, if you're waiting for them to get 10 and 2, I don't see the difference here. Right now, it's steamrolling past the Jets, but it's not anything we didn't, we didn't already think. I think we should have been taking them serious since last week. Once you hit that threshold or 8 and 2, you're really starting to look like an elite program. I know people are thinking, well, you start taking them serious around week 11,
Starting point is 00:03:36 and this is the time to be serious. I think this is totally the time to be serious. The quarterback playing well, you even got Stefan Diggs balling out. So everybody on this team is looking like they're ready to turn the corner and be the team that they expected to be even if no one else expected them. And I think that's something that's really fueling this team from the inside out, cause they expected to be here
Starting point is 00:03:59 unlike everybody else. Patriots, you know, early in the last few weeks, people really been saying talking about how the cults in Denver are the best team
Starting point is 00:04:12 so far. And I think because of the same Patriots past success, we kind of like, what's the word I'm looking for? I'm not saying that like whatever,
Starting point is 00:04:26 But we don't seem the Patriots be so great for so many years for so long that it's like, okay, cool, they're five and one, they're seven and two, whatever, because it's not going to equal up. Right now they look good. Like, I got a nigga that's a Patriots fan. And I used to be a Tom Brady fan, and he called me yesterday and was like, yo, you ready to come home? I'm like, nigger, no. Ready to come home, nigga, fuck is you talking about. I went a number one song. I was just Tom Brady fan.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Tom Brady went to Tampa. I was fucking with Tom Brady when he went to Tampa. But when you have that much success, it's almost like the Lakers. The Lakers make it to the playoffs. So what if the Lakers make it to the playoffs? The Boston Celtics make to the fucking playoffs. So what, they make it to the playoffs? But this new regime is looking good so far.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I'm not ready to jump the gun and say, oh, they're going to take it because there's a lot of teams that start in the Excel right now. A lot of people are not putting a lot of respect on Seattle's record right now. They're kind of under the radar right now. I think the Rams could very well be undefeated right now outside. They lost to Philly and that lost that field goal lost to San Francisco. So it isn't just the Patriots. It's about four or five teams that you need to keep an eye on.
Starting point is 00:05:37 But as far as the Jets, Arabia is every team professional team. Cincinnati Bengals is not professional defense. They're not. They may be junior high school, high school defense. I have no idea what the fuck they are I can't count them as a professional team Jets is I can't even look at them seriously
Starting point is 00:05:59 I think about this we always put salt on and I don't know if the way he doesn't watch a lot of basketball but we put salt on the next I can't even think of our teams but none of us been alive on this none of us on this fucking
Starting point is 00:06:13 show right now has been alive since the Jets won the Super Bowl they don't want the Super Bowl I think the year after Dr. Martin Luther for King got shot is the last time they won the Super Bowl. I don't count the Jets for nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So I don't really count them. They're professional, yeah, but are they a threat? Whatever. Every team going to get one, two, three lucky games. It don't matter who it is. I don't know the last time a team went zero and 16 or 17. So whatever, but I do respect what the Patriots are knowing. But it's a couple of teams we need to keep an eye on.
Starting point is 00:06:48 So I know we talked about the winners, but I do want to go back to the Jets really quick after Arabia made her point. What do you kind of see in Justin Fields' future? Because I feel like it's just been kind of going like slip really slow. What do you see happening Arabia? I think he's lost a lot
Starting point is 00:07:05 of confidence since kind of being passed around. The Bears didn't really believe in him. They kind of get rid of him and build around Caleb Williams and then the Steelers let him go and now he's with the Jets. I think he's lost a lot of confidence. But I think he's also been a victim of his own athleticism. And a lot of times,
Starting point is 00:07:21 really good mobile quarterbacks who are just really athletic, are able to be really good in peewee, youth football, be really good in high school, college, because they're athletic. And then when they get to the NFL, if they don't develop that same arm talent, the way that we saw Lamar Jackson do, he really developed his arm talent over the last like three seasons and become an actual dual threat quarterback,
Starting point is 00:07:41 then sometimes you can slip through the cracks. A Justin Fields is an example of that. And to me, I think we're going to see Tyrod Taylor come in at QB1 pretty soon, And I think we'll see him do what Jacoby-Perset is doing and what Joe Flacco is doing, which is like simplifying the offense and throwing to your biggest weapon, which when Garrett Wilson comes back from injury will be him. So I think Justin Fields is headed to Kyler Murray status, which is just maybe a QB2 somewhere or, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:09 maybe someone else will give him a chance on another team. But I think he's lost a lot of confidence. Damn. Mace. Yeah. I think when it comes to Justin Fields, he's totally out of the game. Somewhere he just forgot who he was, and I just lost confidence. He forgot his identity.
Starting point is 00:08:32 He didn't get here just, you know, just being athletic, even though he has great athleticism. You got to think at one time he was playing pretty decent for even your team stat. You was all big on this guy. You know, we're winning games. This was just last year. That lets you know how fast people can forget about you. I think he lost his identity because when he came into the football league, they was expecting him to do very well.
Starting point is 00:08:58 We talked about the bears, and he was throwing the ball pretty well. Not great, but he was throwing it pretty well. But when he got to the stillers, it's almost like he just turned into Team Tebow, just faking the pass and running all the time. And like she said, that can work in Peewee League and stuff like that. and when you're that much of a better athlete it can also work in high school. But I think
Starting point is 00:09:22 someone in college and the pros that definitely doesn't work. I mean, it looked like RG3 is just waiting to get hurt. And I hate that for him. You got to really develop a playmaker. Yeah, I agree what Arabia
Starting point is 00:09:36 said. Just basically listen, at the end of the day, he's very athletic, super dufer athletic, to where even last year when he was with Pittsburgh once Russell Wilson came in. You know, you can't knock him if that's what the head coach is calling and the offensive coordinator is calling for him to just do special fucking plays
Starting point is 00:09:57 after Russell Wilson comes in. He like, I said this a few weeks ago, that niggas is the black Taysom Hill, a nigga from New Orleans. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they only bring, you sign this nigga as a backup quarterback, but then you use it for all type of other special shoes like the Swiss Army night. And maybe that's what Justin, I don't know if that's what he's willing to do. But maybe that's what he should start exploring
Starting point is 00:10:18 because he's very, very athletic. Like Arabia said, maybe he is a victim of that. I thought that was an interesting take when she said that because, yeah, maybe you're a victim with your own athleticism. Lamar Jackson, you're not that. And everybody, don't get it fucked up.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Everybody isn't. Everybody's not going to be Lamar Jackson. Anybody's not going to be a Michael Vitch. So I don't really know, to be honest with you, but we've seen one thing for sure, two things for certain. Oana ain't ready to give the nigger another motherfucker fucking dime. owner said he ain't
Starting point is 00:10:48 owner said I ain't fucking with it. He said it in a nice polite way. Something's not clicking and I don't know. In other words, he said, I ain't fucking with him.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That's what the owner said. And when we talked to Mike Urban on the show about the shit, he translated it into, I ain't paying that nigga no more money if y'all come and asking me that. So I took it from
Starting point is 00:11:09 what the owner said to what I said, niggas ain't fucking on it to Mike Irvin said. That really translated. and we ain't got to die for you so hopefully they'll figure his way out on somebody's football team but i don't even know that if that'll be at a quarterback position he might be over to some other options playing something else and being quarterback when he needs to play quarterback it's
Starting point is 00:11:30 playing times when they do special plays and football and he'd be like oh shit this nigga through the ball and then he'd be like yes in high school he used to be a quarterback not knowing the nigger ever was a fucking quarterback until that one play uh where he threw a touchdown because they threw a trick play or whatever. So hopefully he does good, man. He seems like a nice person when I do it. I can't even say nothing. You know, I love shitting on niggas, but he seemed like a genuinely
Starting point is 00:11:55 lice person. So I don't even want to say nothing too bad about him, but it doesn't look too good for his future in his quarterback position in NFL. Yeah, especially when last game against the Browns, he threw a total of 11 times. He had 11 pass attempts all game. So that just shows you right there. Like, they're not even letting him throw the ball. Yeah, I was just about to say
Starting point is 00:12:16 I ain't even his fault. That means they're not trust him. Yeah. It's a sad situation. I hope he figures it out because I will just never now forget that press conference conversation that he had talking about how he really broke down. And I know especially when you're in college and like you're a winner and then to come to the league
Starting point is 00:12:32 and just kind of see things fall down, it's got to be a hard place to be in. So I hope you can figure it out and find that confidence because if not, as we're talking about it, now it's going to affect the rest of his career. he's even given more chances and more shots because at some point they kind of just keep the ball rolling. So good luck to Justin Fields. Hope he figures it out. Now, back to the Patriots real quick before we get into our NFL predictions. So Drake May is now the MVP
Starting point is 00:12:59 favorite Arabia. Do you like this for him? Do you agree with this? I personally like a Matthew Stafford over a Drake May. I personally like a Jonathan Taylor over a Drake May. But I get it. He has been performing well. He is the first quarterback since Tom Brady. You know, the Patriots are on an eight game winning streak, eight games, and that he's the first since Tom Brady to do that in franchise history. So I think he's in good company. His touchdowns interception ratio is good. He's playing well, performing well. He has a really good rookie left tackle, Will Campbell out of LSU, who I think is giving him the protection that he needs. He has a ground game, which is complimenting his run, that's complimenting the past game. So I think he's performing well, but
Starting point is 00:13:43 But I don't like him as my favorite. I think I would put him at least at the highest third. But, you know, I get it. Amazing. Yeah, I think, I think the yards that he's putting up is definitely calling and they're screaming MVP. When you're getting at 200, I meant 2,000, what, 2555, you know, in yards. And then he got 71 percentage.
Starting point is 00:14:13 and completions and things of that nature. And he's almost averaging two touchdowns per game. And normally when a team is beating teams, a quarterback could just have one touchdown. Somebody else could have two touchdowns. But he's definitely a playmaker. He's definitely not a game manager. I think all of it to me is saying MVP,
Starting point is 00:14:35 even when you get to his own QBR is much higher than everybody else at this point. So I would like to say he would be my. MVP if we started right now. I like Matthew Stafford, man. Yeah. Matthew Stafford. You all have the best TVR, 70%, 70% 70% 70 on the TVR, but then they got 25 touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:14:58 two interceptions. And like I said, I think the last three, you got four, three or four games before touchdowns this year. Like, I fuck with Matthew Stafford. And I know I said this on my last take. Them niggas might should be undefeated. They really should. If you go back and watch the games, they lost.
Starting point is 00:15:16 They might should really be undefeated. But I think this, that the league is always good. You know, we call the Cowboys America's team and all that shit. But to me, Patriots is really like America's team. Dumb niggas is the ones who really be winning. And then they have them good old boys and I don't mean in a racist way. But Tom Brady was a clean-cut American. like wife kids go home win championships beautiful family bill bellichick hard blue collar worker
Starting point is 00:15:49 owner who lost his wife god bless dead uh rob a crap look that niggins no i don't get fuck with mike irving get mad or whatever them niggas was really america's team when they were winning and the league is good when the patriots are winning it's in boston it's a major city it's a definitely a good league so i understand it i'm not saying drake's may's play isn't warranted be in the MVP conversation because it definitely is and it matters when you win but if you ask in my opinion i like matthew stafford drake may is young he's up and coming and then be better for the lead to where just fucking last year think he's talking about is matthewstaffer getting old should he play again what's going to happen i don't know if he shouldn't even play anymore
Starting point is 00:16:31 he's getting old nigger killing just ready to put the nigger in a retirement home in the wheelchair when they asked this year pause so i would go with matthew staff and i don't know if it's personal for me because I ain't like how they try to play them, but I understand that Drake May's play is definitely warranted to be in the conversation. Great takes y'all. Okay, now let's get into our Sunday NFL predictions. We're doing a little preview. So first let's start with the Bucks versus the Bills. They're both six and three. So Arabia, who do you think this game is more important for and then who do you think wins? I think it's more important for the bills. I do. Both teams are coming off of a loss.
Starting point is 00:17:11 good news for the Bucks as far as injuries, though. Bucky Irvin has not played a game since week four against the Eagles, but he has been participating in practice this week. He hasn't been a full participant, but he has been participating, which is great. If he plays against the Bills, it could be great news for Tampa Bay because the Bills run defense is not great. They are tied with the Giants for second most rushing touchdowns allowed all season. The only team who's allowed more rushing touchdowns is the Titan. So that's great news for the Bucks. If Bucky Irvin plays. If not, it's still good that he's progressing towards coming into the game.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Sean has been there. Sean Tucker has been there, but Bucky Irvin adds just another dimension to this offense. In addition to Emeka Egbuka being an amazing rookie out of Ohio State who has been killing him and Baker have an amazing connection. This game is more important for the bills. The bills right now are trying to stay in playoff contention. They're not even leading their division right now.
Starting point is 00:18:07 They have to prove that they can do it. And they haven't had a stellar start to this. season so it's more important for the bills which is why they have more pressure on them to win this game well everybody is favoring favoring the bills so you definitely think all of the all of the pressure is on the bills i think whoever loses this game you know is obvious they start drifting towards 500 so i think in a sense it's important for both of them but i would i would definitely say the bills because the bugs just seem like more cohesive than the bills that at this point and it seems like if they were to lose another game then this could be
Starting point is 00:18:46 the beginning of that spiral that we normally see for the bills so i'm going to go on the record to say that we normally see for them buffering the regular season well they actually start they start playing like they start playing well then this going towards the playoffs where they lose this is what you say this way they start to spiral at you said this is where the bill this is your take what i'm not sure what you actually start to spiral at so i was wondering because they usually you win they division yeah um not just not just in there not just in their um wins and losses but the the the cohesiveness of the team like when you actually see a person lose that's not when they
Starting point is 00:19:40 started losing. Gotcha. You're going to always trace it back. This is more important for the bills. Tampa Bay is in the bum-ass division. They're a game and a half against a leading a Panthers. The division suite. This is the first time we've seen in the long times where the bill's not going to win
Starting point is 00:19:57 this division or have the potential not to win this division. Looking at this shit right now, when you look at the standings, right? Who would it though at the beginning of the season, we talk about Kansas City or Buffalo potentially not making the playoffs but being at a wild card situation this is not what we used to to be totally honest with you and I'm not saying it's going to end up like that we still got some time
Starting point is 00:20:20 to play football but the way the Patriots are playing there's very way more important for the bills they can lose a couple games and then fucking Atlanta lose some games and then Carolina lose some games and they you don't have to even be fucking 500 to
Starting point is 00:20:36 win that division sometime with the division the fucking Tampa Bears and that is weak. Very important game for the bills to win. They can't lose a lot of games if they even try to make a, I don't think they're going to win the division the way that Patriots are playing, just my opinion. So they have to win the games that they have left because the Patriots are in a row. I didn't even realize until Arabia said it that they was 8 and no their last eight games. Very important game for the bills this week. Okay. Now let's get into our underdog pick. so we're going to go off the bucks versus the bills.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Underdog has Josh Allen at 220 and a half passing yards. Do you have higher, lower, Mace? I'm going to go higher. I don't want to say higher, but Bill's offense been looking kind of shaky, man. Oh, they need the game. I'm going to go higher. Okay. James Cook is at half for rushing and receiving touchdown.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Do you have them higher, lower camp? What do they mean? The other dog always trying to. the trick of niggott they spot what a half a half a touchdown rushing and receiving touchdown so just one so he just need one either way of with both either way yeah one brother is running or receiving regardless right yes yeah he was trying to work yo you y'all ain't low man they're trying they're trying to fuck whole camera that's what it's about yes this is higher okay and baker mayfield is 217 and a half passing yards.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Do you have them higher or lower Mace? Yes, I'm going higher. Yeah, I'm going to hire too. Okay. Make sure y'all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. So next game, Lions versus Eagles. Arabia, who do you got winning this one? Man, well, first of all, the Eagles are the only team that the Lions have not defeated
Starting point is 00:22:33 in the entire NFC under Dan Campbell since 2021. I think they're out for revenge this season for how their season ended last year, especially because they had so much injury last year. I'm going to have to go Eagles. And the reason why is because I'm impressed by the wins that they were able to get so far this season. And they do it in all three phases of football. We've seen them beat the Chiefs. We've seen them beat the books, a healthier books.
Starting point is 00:22:58 We've seen them beat the Rams. So a team that can squeak out wins against those caliber of teams, even like a decent Packer team, I'm going to go with the with the Eagles also they are number one in red zone offense say what you want about the touch push or however you want they have an 81% touchdown percentage in the red zone so for this game I'm going to have to go Eagles and that they find a way to win but either way I think it'll be a close really good game yes I'm going Eagles also not just because they beat the chiefs I really didn't like that not because they beat all the other team but because they beat the Cowboys you know sometimes that's one of the hardest games for them to win even though it's the easiest team to everybody else is somehow that rivalry just always turns into a great game but I'm definitely going to go with the Eagles on this.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I think the Eagles are destined to return at this point. I'm going to go with the Lions because the Lions is another team that may not win the motherfucking division. Like, you know, this is all like casual fans. When in the division is important, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And that makes the difference from possibly making the playoffs to not making the playoffs. You know, you get a couple teams from a couple divisions, not just one all the time. Definitely not just one. But I'm just saying, that matters. And this is another thing. Who the fuck thought the Detroit Lions will be tied with the Chicago Bears right now? And they're playing decent. I mean, I'm not really, like I said, you know how I feel about the nigger.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Williams and nails and all that other shit. Well, I can't hate on the nigga. You've been playing really decent. And the Lions, they've been shaky sometime this year. So I think that Dan Campbell needs to rally troops up. Jay Gibbs, he was, at the beginning of the year, we're thinking that maybe he might get the motherfucking Russian title. It fell off since the beginning of the season.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But I think they need this win more than the Eagles need to win. Looks like Eagles are about to run away with the NFCE. So I'm not saying they're going to take a week off. But I think this is a more desperation game for the Lions than the Eagles, so I'm going to go with the Lions. So, Cam, you said that, before you said that the way that the season has been going, you see more of a possibility of the Bills not winning that division, the Patriots winning that division. But you see the Bears potentially winning the NFC North? Is that what you're saying? I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I said that they was tied right now with the Lions. they have the same record. So that's what I said. I said, so they seem more desperate. I didn't, you don't put words in my mouth. That's what you're not going to do. I said, that's why I asked the question. Yeah, yeah, let's be clear.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I love transparency. Me too. My favorite thing. Yeah, I love it. So basically I said that them was desperate to win the division. Did I say the Bears are going to win division? No, but we don't know because the lines on looking is dominant. They've been looking at the last two years, last, last two years.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Don't get it fucked up either. Last year, it came down to one game with Minnesota. In the last game of the season for them to win the division, now ultimately to get the buyer, ultimately to lose to you. Guys, I understand where you're coming from, you may got a little, we beat the Lions when everybody thought that y'all would lose to the Lions. So don't try and frown upon the Lions,
Starting point is 00:26:22 because y'all niggas caught a little victory last year and all that. You feel me? Because we know where y'all are at right now. Well, listen, you don't have to. I actually wore this color for you. in solidarity because it's bad it's bad right now
Starting point is 00:26:37 but don't put it above well murder if you want to be about last year or this year no no I'm telling you I don't know if you know the bills are tied with the Detroit lines but have we we have thought this I mean I wouldn't have thought it me personally
Starting point is 00:26:57 I wouldn't have thought that the beers would be tied with the line And what I'm saying is, don't let another three weeks of the beers go by one in the United States. And so, for instance, right, let me just give you an example. Bears went the next three weeks straight. The Lions go two and one in the next three weeks. You're like, uh-oh. Time winding down.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I don't know. If I had to make a guess, answer your question, Arabia, if I had to make a guess, I'm not going to say lions aren't going to win the division. But I wouldn't say right now that I would have told you at the beginning of the season that the lines would be tied with the beers in week nine. either. Okay, okay. I just thought it was interesting how you, it seemed like a more, you were more convinced
Starting point is 00:27:39 that the bills may not win that division, but you seem like, because you didn't phrase it the same way for both, because like the bills, you're like, oh, I think the Patriots are going to win that division, but you didn't say you think the lines are going to win that division. You said that the bears are more desperate, but are the bills not also
Starting point is 00:27:55 are more desperate. And the bears are so. I don't say the bears were more desperate. That's first, I said yeah I know you did because you don't be listening I just said that the lions are more desperate that's what I said to win the division because the lions don't want to lose the division to the bears so I didn't say the bears are more desperate
Starting point is 00:28:14 because we wasn't even talking about the bears I'm saying that the lions are more desperate okay okay so yeah I definitely just heard a ghost that sound just like Cam and this motherfucker I say bears sound are more desperate but I'll stage it after to make sure that don't happen again. Well, we can actually just go to the table.
Starting point is 00:28:34 We wasn't talking about the beers. It's talking about the lines. If I did say the beers, then I met the lines because are we not, are we not talking about the Eagles versus the lions? We were, but it was part of the follow-up conversation when I was asking you the follow-up question after that. It wasn't your original point.
Starting point is 00:28:51 It was after I brought up the thing about the divisions. So that's what you said. Let me ask you a question, right? How many games ahead? are the Patriots are ahead of the bills The Patriots are 9 and 2 now The bills are 6th in the
Starting point is 00:29:08 AFC A couple games Okay, right So when I'm saying I didn't ask any of you all I asked Arabia So anyway, she didn't know They was helping
Starting point is 00:29:22 I see I can see More of the story is there A couple games up That's so I'm saying we're not even used to that the last few years when it comes to the bills. Like, the bills are a runaway in that division.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So when I was saying that the bills are more desperate because they're not used to losing the division. What I'm saying is now when I'm saying the lions are more desperate because they're not used to losing that division. So if you misunderstood, oh, I said it wrong, I apologize. But basically what I'm saying is the teams that we're used to seeing winning around this time are not winning. That was really my point.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Okay. Maybe we'll circle back to that. Maybe we won't. But I think we're all following. We're all clear. Great. But I'm glad we're on this time because I'm going to call out everything. I'm like for the rest of the show,
Starting point is 00:30:14 don't nobody slip up because it's already been like four slipups. I could have called out. Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad we're on the same page. I'm happy with you. mate okay let's do one more before we go to break so now let's get to the Seahawks versus the Rams both are tied at 7 and 2 should be a real good game
Starting point is 00:30:41 Arabia who do you think is going to win this one oh man I have to go Rams in this game but it's going to be my favorite game of the week neither team has trailed in a game since week six Cooper Cup returns to SoFi for the first time they're allegedly supposed to be doing a tribute to him since he's coming back and all that. Who's going to really win is the fans, the audience, whoever has the opportunity
Starting point is 00:31:07 to watch this game is really going to be the winner. There are some football games that are just good from the time they start to the time that they end. But I'm going to have to go Rams in this game. I believe in Sean McVey and Matthew Stafford. I am a little bit concerned about the Seahawks past defense, especially against an explosive
Starting point is 00:31:24 Rams offense. So I'm going to have to go Rams, but it'll be a really, really good game. Yeah, I'm going, I'm definitely going to go to Rams, but I think the, I think, I wouldn't be surprised if the Seahawks win, I think it's going to be a really close game. But when it's all said and done, the Rams, the Rams definitely going to win. Like, I think it's a toss them up, but for personal reasons, I'm going with the Rams. Rams on my team and everything, but I just really like with, like, like I said it before, I really like with Matthew Stafford.
Starting point is 00:31:57 But then again, you got to think about this, too. I love what Sam Donald is doing, too, because he had two really, really bad games last year, and it cost him probably $20 million. They was ready to get ready to think about making them a franchise quarterback in Minnesota. He had the bad game Mr. Lyons. And he had the bad game in the playoffs. And he was like, I don't know if we could fuck with this.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And he coach when his prime time. He don't show up when his prom time. And that shit costs him some bread. So the success that he's having in Seattle right now, I'm really excited about that I was mad at the Rams for getting rid of getting rid of Cooper as soon as they were on you know
Starting point is 00:32:32 Seth I always fucked the nigga ain't my name up but Pookie Pooka Nuka whatever Soon as soon as they got a little glimpse of Pooke Cooke we good holler deuce and we all right we catch this nigga for cheap anyway and don't get a wreck
Starting point is 00:32:48 Cooper was always getting hurt a lot as well you know but I really liked him you all realize they won a Super Bowl because of this nigga if I'm not mistaken. I believe he might have got MVP that Super Bowl. So when they got rid of him, I'm like, God damn, you're really not as good as yesterday in no
Starting point is 00:33:02 motherfucking league. You don't get no cash time for what you did yesterday, man. And that shit matters. So I think Arabia is right as far as when she says the fans win because this is definitely going to be a great game and a lot of great storylines on the outside of the game.
Starting point is 00:33:20 And that's a great point, too, because that was just like four years ago. Like, We're not far removed from Cooper Cup being the guy. They're paying a tribute to this man. How many times do you really have a player come back return against a team that they just left and they pay tribute to you? So I think that says a lot about the organization and how they feel about Cooper Cup and his return not too long
Starting point is 00:33:41 from just that Super Bowl moment in that very stadium. So, yeah. That's how I was feeling about Matthew Stafford. I'm like, yo, niggins just won the chip. Niggins ain't won the chip in decades. When was the last time Aaron Roberts? just won a championship and y'all not ready to pack that nigga out y'all be like like you said it wasn't that long ago man and like i said i was a big fan of his and i i hated on pookie
Starting point is 00:34:07 for a while because they got rid of cooper until you can't hate on kooky no more because the nick is nice he's just nice but i was real upset how they got rid of cooper for that nigga but it is what it is i think this be a great game this week yeah definitely must see tv don't go anywhere You can't get paid in the earth this big, you worthless, kid. You know the rest. That's life, nigger. Life, nike. That's life, nike.
Starting point is 00:34:35 That's life, nike. Choo. Choo. Choo. Choo. Choo. Choo. What's up, King, Jr. will be alive today.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's who was the shooter. So his passer rating can barely go to the club and get a bottle. 24.1 passer rated against the Brown. Marlon Humphrey is online saying that he wants to go on a glizzy tour. He wants to go to 50 states and try 50 blocks. It's going to be challenging for A.J. Brown. He typically stands outside the numbers a lot, and that's where PS2 thrives. C.D. Lamb said this is one of the best offenses he's been a part of.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And as much as I hate to say it, I can see why he says that. and all these positive things about the Cowboys must we want to grow up. So I know it's taboo to put your hands on your kids. I know, but I had to whip your son the other day. When I evaluate rookies, the best thing I can always say about the ones that are doing the best, they understand past protection.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Pass Pro is where you see some rookie struggle. He's not doing that. I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. Welcome back. Now we're going to get into this Vikings version. versus Bears game. So, Arabia, how good do you think the bears are, then do you see them winning this game versus the Vikings?
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm going to go Vikings. To me, just the eye test, the bears don't look like a six-and-three team. And sometimes football teams play doesn't reflect their record. Sometimes they have a good record for whatever reason. But just looking at the way that they kind of struggle through games, they don't look like a six-and-three team. But I can't discount their ability to get to get it done. because they are winning these games.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I'm going to have to give it to the Vikings. I believe in the Vikings defense to stop Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson's offense. I don't super believe in the Bears defense enough to stop Justin Jefferson and Addison and everything that the Vikings might throw at them. Or J.J. McCarthy has to be good enough just to manage the offense. So I'm going to give it to the Vikings. I'm actually going to go opposite today. I'm going with the Bears for the simple fact that when you think of Caleb Williams just last year,
Starting point is 00:36:59 we was all doubting them and what he could do. And now we're even having this conversation speaks to the growth of them, even when you're talking about them not having a great defense. I'm definitely going with Chicago Bears, and I'm looking for this to be the week that they step up. This is the week where he begins to take this team to be a real formidable opponent. And I think this is where you could do it against a great deal. defense like the Minnesota
Starting point is 00:37:25 Vikings. So I'm definitely going with the Bears. When Arabia say the I test I get where she's coming from, but the odd test this year been better than the last couple years if we've been fucking art tests because last couple years the eye test been ridiculous. And they went in the games.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I'm not sold on the JJ nigger. I'm really not. And he be getting hurt a lot. You know what I'm saying? I'm really not. I'll get mad at shit like that for niggas like Justin Jefferson. Like, God damn, my nigga. Like I'm not saying JJ is browning and nothing like that. But you got these all-world receivers and you can't get a half-decent, healthy quarterback
Starting point is 00:38:02 to get the fucking number one, two, three receivers in the fucking league, the fucking ball. And he's injury prone. So I don't think he has a continuity with the team being hurt this season. But I don't, like I said, to be honest with you, Arabia, which you said, the eye test, I get that. But it's just been looking better than what it's used to. I'm not sold on the Beds Neville. I'm really not. But they keep fucking winning some type of way.
Starting point is 00:38:28 How? Who knows? I don't fucking know. They keep winning. Caleb Williams running the ball. Some weeks looking like fucking Josh Allen running for touchdowns. Passing decent. They win the games.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And they record says it. Just no continuity in Minnesota this season, my personal opinion. So I'm going to agree with Mason go with the Beds for this game. Okay. And next we got the cheese. versus the Broncos. So Broncos are 8 and 2. Chargers are 7 and 3.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Rabia, do you think the Chiefs can win this division first? And then do you see them beating the Broncos? I don't see them winning the division, but Stranger Things have happened. But I will give the Chiefs the benefit of the doubt in this game. Yes, they have struggled early on. But November, December, this is around the time where a really good team start to separate.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And I have to give the benefit of the doubt to a championship caliber team, like the Chiefs, to figure out how to get it done late in the season. If they have the recipe for having a good defense and a really bad offense, if they have the recipe for having a really good offense and a struggling defense, I mean, they've kind of seen different variations of the Chiefs, you know, how they're composed as a team in a lot of different ways. So I think I'm going to go Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:39:44 We've seen more from the Broncos, but like last game, I didn't love the way that Bow Knicks and that offense looked. And also that defense is still really good. Their front four can generate pressure just with four, which opens up the second level of defense and your secondary. But the secondary does look different without pass or tame. PS2 is still injured. Not to say that, you know, it's a bad defense without him, but it's just different without him. So I'm going to go chiefs in this game and give this championship caliber team over the past five-ish years the benefit of the doubt and say that, you know, they can figure out a way to get it done.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Thank you, Arabia. I'm starting to respect your football takes, you know. It's okay. You came right on home. And what else do I expect from an expert, you know? At your caliber of knowledge, you're supposed to come to that realization. That's where all roles leave. This is one of those weeks where we just go right back to where we used to be.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Now, if they lose where to lose this, I'm going to be fair with you, Statt, Title Town, maybe on the move, you know, but I don't see them losing this. I think, I think actually when it comes to this Kansas City Chief Team, I don't know where Taylor Swift has been at. We have not been getting the calls like we normally get. I'm looking for the refs to kick in and help us out. Come on, refs, help us out. We got to win this. And I wouldn't be surprised if two calls get overturned or something happened, this is where they call it's championship luck. You know, it's called championship luck. Many of you guys wouldn't know what it is, but I'm going to share with you what it is.
Starting point is 00:41:26 It's when you've been winning so long that things just go your way. Somehow, some way it just turned into a Kansas City win. And I expected all of these faces that I'm getting right now. The body language from Arabia, your face, your expression stat, this is why I don't talk. You know, this is why I don't talk. But look forward to a championship luck week where things just go our way. And thank Taylor Swift later, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I'm going to go with the Chiefs, too. You talk about, you know, Rabya boarded up the autism. To me, Denver record is their record, but they don't pass the outtests. I don't really think Bo Nix is that good, especially not this season. I think he got the potential to be good. I don't know if Sean Payton has them on the strength,
Starting point is 00:42:19 but he seems more like a game manager than the actual NFL quarterback. Of course, you have NFL quarterbacks as game managers as well. But their defense, to me, is really what gets them over the hump, 18 touchdowns, 18 picks. And he got booed at home. Bowenicks, I'm talking about it. Like, it's hard to get booed at home, especially when you're not even losing.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Like, you're winning and still getting booed in your own. stadium. So yes, this is the week, to be honest with you, the rest of the next few weeks are the weeks for the Chiefs to make a run and get back to where they used to be. And not necessarily we used to be because they dominated so long the division they was in. But at least to make a push to try and win the division or be in the wild card. That's the difference. Or not be in the playoffs, which could potentially happen if they lose this game. But I'm going with the Chiefs to win this game. I just don't like the way that Denver looks on offense, my personal opinion.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And we will see what happens. Okay, so now we got some comments from AJ Brown that we got to discuss. So basically, he was on a Twitch stream. And one of the comments he said is, if you got me on your fantasy, get rid of me. Then there is a clip where his son came into the room. And as they were talking about himself being on the Madden game and his stats, he said, that's the only highlights of the damn football season I've been living right now. Later on, he was actually asked about his comments, and he stated that he would not apologize.
Starting point is 00:43:51 He said, I think if you got eyes, you can see that. It's the same things I've been saying all season. So me making light of my situation on Twitch with my friend, that's something I'm not apologizing for. So, Ravia, how did you take his comments? How do you feel about him not wanting to apologize? and then do you see them as valid or do you see this as an issue? I love the fact that he didn't apologize because if he said something and he meant it, I don't like this politically correct apology if he meant what he said.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And people trying to get him to back down from how he actually feels, I think isn't right. Athletes have a platform now. They have an ability to say how they actually feel unfiltered. So good for AJ Brown for staying in his ground and actually being like, no, I said what I meant and I meant what I said. And Chan Bailey and I actually spoke about this about how. how really good players on really good teams want to play a big role in these wins. So from an organizational point, from a fan point, you might be like, oh, football is a team sport.
Starting point is 00:44:49 He needs to be focused more on team wins or just the fact that they are winning and not the fact that he's getting the ball or not. But sometimes as a good player, you want to play a major role in these wins and you want to show what you can do and what you got. So I understand both sides and I respect the fact that he said what he said and he's the tend to this this this statement alone could be one of those things that lead to them not winning this year um is divisive the the least you know because when you start having these arguments in the in the locker room is definitely going to show up on the field and this is not the time where you
Starting point is 00:45:28 want to start having this while i respect is his right to say what he means and and to mean what said like um like like arabia just stated i also got to keep in mind the wins of the team like when you say it's about um how he plays versus how the team plays and wanting to play a major role on the on a team that's winning he should just want to win you know as a player when you got that championship predigree you should it should be more about the wins because some days you're not going to play well and we still need to win i think when it comes down to if you play well or if this team wins, then you're already outside of a championship.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I totally agree with that. I don't like it. I don't like it. Nig on the Sari and read him shit. This started last year. He's a big sour push, yo. You one of the best wide receivers. And I see it and to be honest with you to agree with Mace,
Starting point is 00:46:26 and I know Mace don't be watching, but his body language says it. When they throw in the nigger the ball, he's a big receiver. But sometimes if it's a one-on-one, even I see the plays in double coverage. He could have jumped and got it, but he didn't put that in to it like, yo, the nigger ain't dropping it in my hands.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Nigger, jump up and grab the shit. Your nigga, you are two little niggas on you. Go jump up and grab the shit. But because it didn't fall in the sense, he acts like Hurst through a bad path. I don't like his body language. I don't like what he'd be doing on the sideline and it's detrimental to the team.
Starting point is 00:47:01 If you're winning games, What are you crying about, bro? I get what a rabies are saying and everybody want to play a part. You know who I just take a back step? The champion, there was already a championship team, and I know we're dumping them in different sports. Steph Curry had to take a back spot
Starting point is 00:47:18 when Kevin Durant came over. And this ain't even no trade. This is the team that's already together. If Kevin Durant is going to help us win championships, I will play second fiddle to Kevin Durant. Clay Thompson, I will play third fiddle Kevin Durant. Draymore Green until he got to his little thing with Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I will play my position. They had already won a championship without Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant comes, everybody knows they're going to win a championship. Kevin Durant, both championships they won, I got finals MVP. They would have won three championships that he can get hurt. I'll take a back role if this is going to help us win. This screams selfish. This screams it's about me.
Starting point is 00:47:59 This screams like, if you're not winning, that's one thing. You're winning. you're winning and if I'm the coach I would make it worse and don't get me wrong it might lead to the trade later on and him crying and not wanting to beat it
Starting point is 00:48:12 but you can't fuck this season up with the pouting and crying and now you're going on live streaming with your son and you're like fuck that I'm not a pilot yo bro this is detrimental to the team this attitude
Starting point is 00:48:24 because if we're seeing this imagine the shit that they're seeing in the locker room you may walk in the locker room you like yo what's up hey might hit you with this he might not be speaking the niggas
Starting point is 00:48:37 this is not a good attitude to have especially if you're wondering if you're not winning I dig it and you think you can do more but you're winning I don't like it all right y'all
Starting point is 00:48:46 that is all the time that we have for today Rabia you know it's always a pleasure to have you on the show thanks for joining us on this Friday thank you so much for having me
Starting point is 00:48:55 enjoy y'all weekend of course thank y'all thank y'all for watching and as always it is what it is E!

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