IT IS WHAT IT IS - WHY DID CAM'RON GO TO OHIO, CARSON BECK BRINGING BACK THE U & CARRYING THE FAMILY NAME

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! Maurice Clarett is back and he looking like he running for Office in these suits he be pulling out (pause) Mo wants to know from Killa, what made he come to Ohio in the first place? Then, All of a sudden Carson Beck is cool in Stat Baby’s eyes with the U being the #4 team in the country, is grass sometimes greener on the other side? Next, what are the pressures Ma$e, Cam & Maurice’s kids had to face bearing the last name of the family and how does that compare to Arch Manning? Lastly, which 0-2 teams can turn their season around and which 2-0 team are you just not buying the hype of?  Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Sign up with promo code IIWII and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-itiswhatitis #UDpartner Follow the show and our hosts on social media: ⁠It Is What It Is⁠, ⁠Cam'Ron⁠, ⁠Ma$e⁠, and ⁠Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson⁠ , ⁠Producer Ayooo Nick⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's like, whoa. sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. So Underdog is dropping awesome promos all week long, so make sure y'all check the app to see what's next. If you're new, use code it is what it is when you sign up and play $5 and they'll drop $50 in bonus funds your way. I'm Charger Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. How you doing, man? You all right? Yeah, man. Today I almost cried thinking about you, man. For real. How are you doing these days, man? I see you every day.

It was just this morning you're going to cry for me? Yeah, man. Yeah. I hear you, man. Well, I'm good. You never told me about you and Bigel and Dane being in the car. Wow. Yeah, you know, I've seen that.

I seen that. I didn't know me Bigel and Dave was in the car together. I didn't even know me, Bigel and Dame have ever been in the car together. Oh, man. You know what I was going to save that for my show because I didn't want to get into this. I don't want to get into this. I really didn't want to get this.

Yeah, I was going to mind my business, but I saw Moe with the popcorn. He's taking my part, boss. I've never, I've never, I've, let me talk with me. Now, I'm a safer, totally, but I've never, I didn't know that that nigger was such a liar. Like, you know how your man is your man, so you probably don't be annoyed. Like, like, you like, you don't. You're like, nah, you just hate that someone. I didn't know this nigger lied like that, man.

Yeah. First of all, let me tell you something. And I last time, I'm going to talk flea, but Mace know. Yeah. Yo, listen, bro. Big L is not sure, man. This whole shit don't even make no sense. First of all, I'll say this real quick, because we got to move on.

Me, you and Big El are going to get drugs or riding around Harlem. Don't even say, right, Big L didn't fuck with you. I tried to plug you in the Bigel when you wanted to sign him when he started his own label with Flamboyant. And y'all was trying to sign him. But Big El brother, Big Lee and Raj, they didn't like you. If you had three bricks in the car, or you was on the way to get three bricks in the car,

on the way to get brick, whatever fucking lie you told the story you told. You wouldn't have made it home. Big El lines, niggots. Mace, right? Yeah. Yeah. You lie on me.

So, you got a point then. Yeah, you click on your feet. Bigel Lines, niggas. like barbers my nigga you wouldn't have made at home my nigger stop that yo's really you going out bad bro stop lying my nigger me you and big i've never been nowhere to get no work or had no work or stopped in a uh checkpoint or nothing my nigga you're going out bad but i'll just don't talk with flea murder but yeah man you might need to say a prayer for me yeah yesterday i was so i was so um taking a back pause i really wanted to pray for adrian brano next time i see

am i'm gonna do that i missed a great opportunity yeah well make sure y'all tune in for talk with we but today we are joined with our analyst maurice clarette mo what's good man hey it's a lot going on with you there it's yo mo it looked like you the last then you know our first two weeks of this season man it looked like you're trying to run for something something you're something is looking, let me straighten out my shit. What you're running for council out there, sir? You've been looking real clean, man. Everything, the suits looking good, the background.

You got your microphone this week. Yo, you're looking real good, man. Well, I appreciate it, man. You know, the fans wanted me last week or two weeks ago. You had some resident Ohio brothers on here, Pac-Man, and AB. And it caused some criticism. So I just wanted to show a civilized version. Yeah, Columbus.

Columbus version of Ohio, man. I don't know if they're too civilized over there. That makes sense, Moe. It looked like you running for like city council or something. I know the colors. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like, because you know murder with that council shit, all the colors means something.

Yeah. They be meanly saying. Yo, Moe, let me ask you a question. Go ahead, go ahead. No, the tower was for solidarity for you. Okay. He was going through a whole lot on the internet. So this is a pink tie.

Oh, it's a pink shit. Okay. Okay. I thought it was right for me. I got my shades on. I did it. But listen, let me tell you this one thing. I know y'all, my brothers.

Don't worry about me. I got clip after clip after clip, my nigga. And I don't shoot strays. I'm a sniper. So I'm always good, bro. Yo, I wanted to ask you, though, real quick. What do you represent more? Youngstown or Colon?

I'm from Youngstown. I know. So I represent Youngstown. Okay. I'm a Youngstown until the day I die, but I live in Columbus. So I've had half my life in Youngstown and half my life in Columbus. And most people know me from playing football at Ohio State, but at the core, it's just, just like you from Harlem. I'm from Youngstown.

But I live in Columbus and they've treated me well in this town. Gotcha. It sounds like you're trying to rep both, you know? Who am I to say that? Well, you're from Jacksonville. Yeah, I was just about to say. right i'm about to say you know i'm just about to say who is he to say where he's from i'm how to call the pot you know what the kettle black okay well marie but i had i

know i had a question for cam like it's timely that you asked that right so somebody asked me something right so they was like you know i got a question for cam and it was a question i didn't know the answer to right so you know obviously i listened to your music and i understand why you was in ohio right it's clear why you was here right right you're but they said, how did Cam get to Ohio? And I couldn't ask him. And I was like, why did you choose Ohio, you know, the trap out of it?

And I just thought I asked that for the person who asked me the question. That was a great question. That was a really good question. That was a great question. I got a statute of limitations. So, if I could talk about that. Well, but it didn't pan out like that anyway.

So this is what happened. And that's a great, great question. So I know a female that lived with this, She lived in New York, but she was from Ohio. And I was going back and forth to Chicago anyway. When I was driving Chicago, like Ohio, you had to ride through there, not through Columbus, but towards that way.

And I always seen the sign. So I had a female lived in New York, and she was from Columbus. And we was having a conversation one day. And she was like, yo, you know her grandma, her on his $350 out there? I said, $350? Yeah, $350?

see, she said, yeah, I don't believe it. She calls her cousins, and they verified it by phone. So I sent her out there to get everything situated because a grandma heroin in New York at that time was probably, if you knew somebody, 60, 70, maybe $80, so the turnaround was crazy. But she went out there, fucked the money up and everything else, and it never panned out.

And so I met somebody else who had stomach issues with me, So a lot of people don't know, I have an IBS. I met somebody else who had IBS, and we know we was kind of talking about this shit. And he was like, yo, give me a call. And when he gave me his phone number, it says 614, the area code. And I was like, hey, man, you be in Ohio

because this girl just told me that motherfucking, a grandma, everyone out there, so and so, so. He was like, just stick to the stomach, bro. Just stick to the stomach. So then we talked for a while, just about medical shit. And I ended up stopping in Columbus on the way of Chicago, and I bought some weed with me. And they bought it all.

I had like three ounces to smoke for myself, and them niggas just ate it up. And the dude I'm talking about was like, see, you can make some money out here with the weed. Leave that hair on shit alone. That's me. So don't bring that shit out here. And I didn't sell weed.

I was just throwing weed parties because I didn't want to go to jail so i was charging niggins a thousand dollars to get in a party to smoke the best weed and everything else and you know i end up meeting some good people you know uh shout my man pop jo r p chubby was out there or a lot of people don't even remember my nerd because he went to jail before pop jo um but yeah i met some good people but it was over a conversation about heron which i never indulged there there we go that's how i listen that but the we that's the history of cam being in ohio Yeah, yeah, that's how I went.

Wow. Well, you were always a businessman. I don't know if y'all, that was good. That was good. I was just saying. No, fair, McGree, you know, I think about that turnaround because, listen, I don't know if y'all people know the movie traffic and everything else,

and it's based, you know, it's kind of realistic, and it's kind of based out of Cincinnati, some of it. And no disrespect, I'm not talking about athletes or anything else, but a lot of these kids to go to these schools are functional heroin addicts, and a heroin is an early drug. So you can be working at 4 in the morning and be finished at 8 in the morning and make $90,000, especially at those prices. If you buying it for 60, then you got a decent connect, and if you keep coming back, you might get it for 50, and you're selling one gram for $350 stack.

know how many grams is in a kilo? I don't know. You went to school at least. I don't. I don't. All right, so it's 1,000 grams in a kilo, right? So if it's 1,000 grams in a kilo and you're selling $350 and you're selling it in like a week and a half,

you would take the chance to, maybe not you, but I'm just saying. depending on your situation. Yeah. Same mindset. Yeah, that's crazy. You're playing trapped in the trap is crazy. He's relating it, mad. Even we back there, you buy a pound for like $6,000.

You know, it's cheaper now, what I'm saying, it's $5,000, $6,000. And then you go, you could get it off out there for like 10, $11,000, because they didn't have a good weed. Then if you break it down the ounces and just be selling $1,000 ounces, of ounces. You know what I mean? Houses in a pound?

He was like. I don't mind. Y'all, this is not a test, I don't know. Right now. I'm just saying, I don't know if they teach that in school too. Yeah, but I went to school for, I haven't taken math since 10th grade. See, me and murder, my school for science and mathematics, I said, fuck the science. I focused on the math.

That was actually the name of our school, man, Center for Science and Math. Oh, dang. Yeah, fun fact for me, I'll just say this so people don't think, dang, how you went to Miami and didn't know this. I stopped taking math in 10th grade because I did all my academics in middle school because I was too advanced. So by the time I got to junior, senior year, in college, I was taking college classes. I don't want to make that clear. It's not, at the top of my head, it's not clicking, but English and stuff like that, cool.

The math, I can discount because I shop a lot, but that's about it. So you stopped taking it in 10th grade? Yeah. That's lit. calculus. And so then I did AP and then I did college credits. I was done with that. You did calculus in 10th grade? Yes.

I got a call cap on that. Okay. It's literally written down. You could see that I had my college credits done in high school. Oh, that's deep. I thought I was the only one that passed the SAT with flying colors. Well, I'm just saying for me, the thing about it for me, I stopped doing math when letters got involved. I couldn't do nothing with it.

I wasn't with that. Once C plus D equal H to the ninth power, I said I can't do nothing with this. Not saying that people out there can't do nothing with it. It just, I knew it wasn't going to resonate for me in life. Yeah, this is hilarious. I couldn't. I'm not doing math with numbers because I knew I couldn't pay my rent with that.

I knew I couldn't buy no work, I couldn't buy no sneakers. It just didn't make sense for me to do any math with any letters involved. just me personally. So congratulations to y'all. I'm glad y'all killed it, man. Okay, let's start actually with Miami. We're going to get into college football. So Carson Beck succeeded at the grassman greener on the other side by going to Miami after he left Georgia. So Marie's going to let you go first. What's your thoughts on Carson Beck in Miami? And then have you ever had a similar situation where you left? And then it ended up being better than you,

thought or maybe even worse than you thought yeah it was two things stat you can't hate on cars and beg no more you're correct yeah you are correct remember cams said last year when he started bawling yeah i'm glad you bring in our receipts for me mo thank you yeah i'm like i'm thinking with my glass of thank you mo for pulling out the receipts because sometimes these people up here act like i never said any of this stuff did i say thank you man Yeah, I remember, no, Carson Beck is, he's doing an amazing job down there in Miami, and it looked like the hurricanes are rolling. But my situation where I thought the grass was green on the other side,

I don't know if you call it the grass being greener on the other side, but it made me think of when I thought about, like I suspended from football, and I thought that hustling was better than me continuing my path of football, and I jumped into the streets, and I thought the grass was greener with it, like, street shit and it didn't pay it out yeah that's all the example

man when I think of Carson Beck I would have to say that the grass is probably greener for him when you think about it you know he leaves Georgia he goes down to Miami the weather is better

everything is better and he finessed it he took hand on a ride you know it looked Like he was, he was going to date Hannah, the, you know, the influencer. And then he broke up, right? Yeah, the Cavender Twins. And he broke up with her in March, right before spring break.

Anybody's hearing what I'm saying? He gets down to Miami. He breaks up with her before spring break. This is what he's talking about. He's not even talking about football. He's talking about the ladies. Stad, you could go to this shit. This a nigga, you were sitting on.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to deny that I'm not. I didn't have faith in Carson Beck because I really thought it was situational base. And I was like, when he's going to go to Miami, he's going to fuck it up. But he didn't do that. So shout out to Carson Beck. I mean, we're doing really good. We play Florida next. Florida is not doing really good.

So we're probably going to stay undefeated for a little bit of games. And I can't be mad at him. But yes, I had reasonable doubt. I was proven wrong. Thank y'all for holding me accountable. That's what this is. His NIO deals went up. The team is playing good.

and, you know, he's a free agent in Miami as a young man. Gotta be crazy. And he's the Heism of a frontrunner. Yeah, he is. I've seen that. Yeah. And Miami's ranked number four.

I'm excited, though. I don't dislike this is great. We should be winning. I just didn't know that's what was going to happen. Stad, everybody is quiet. Everybody is quiet because you, you act like the guy was no good. I didn't say he was not. I don't think he was going to be good for Miami.

Well, I'll say this. I'll say this, because I'm going to ask more than of a question and before I even, well, I don't really have much of a take on this because we already know who this is really about. You know what I'm saying? So. The grass is green. Yeah, but I will say this before I ask more the question,

because it's kind of not pertain to this, but I want to ask the question anyway. I'll say this is that I believe, Because of Kim Ward's success last year and how good he played. And he went number one overall is that people like Stata racist because they was feeling real black last year. Michael Lurban on the field, stat on the field. Yo, we win it and we got a black quarterback

June Tief every day, nigga. That's how they was feeling. And then when Kim has to, to leave and you get a white quarterback, you're like, he may be all right, but we was just on sole train. That's what it felt like. I don't hear you talking about getting ready to go

no Miami games this year. If you're going, I just, I haven't heard it. I will. Homecoming. Okay, but yeah, you're not excited. I am excited. Cam Ward was there. I'm just telling you, because it felt black. It felt like we were in the NFL line,

tennis chains, all type of shit. And I get it. I felt black. I was proud of Ken Ward. A nigga on ESPN said, niggas can't fuck with me on my bad. He'd get up there, curse. It was a black situation.

And you don't have that anymore. That's what I really feel. Now they're back to Arby's. Yeah, that's what I feel. And that's what I think stat problem was, even though she will never admit that. But I think that's, I think she was feeling real black. The fist was in the sky.

And now you're back to a white quarterback. That's how I feel when he even announced he was going there because the hate came before a game was even played. I just don't think it's a girlfriend-only fans. I was like, I don't know. You know, she knew more than me. All y'all know more to me.

Mo, what I wanted to, as far as Miami's concerned. Mo, what I wanted to ask you is this. So the other night, and I know we plugged it before, Moe has a great 30-for-30 episode on ESPN. If you haven't seen it, please go make sure you check it out. It's called Youngstown's Boys. Sessational, sensational. And I was in the house flipping.

the channel, I've seen a hundred times, and it actually was on ESPN maybe about four or five nights ago. And it was part of this, this, part of the documentary, because we all seen what you came in and did at Ohio, your freshman year, et cetera, et cetera, and then we've seen the trouble you got into as well. But Ohio kind of turned their back on you when you started saying you wanted to be one and done. Now that you see all these other players in the future. talking about one and done, one and done, one and done. When you said it, it was like a crime, like how dare you disrespect Ohio State like that?

How did, we don't want us who made you famous, this, that, and the third. How do you feel about being a kind of a trailblazer for the one, even though it didn't pan out the way you want to, but even that slogan saying you want to be one and done, and then maybe 10 years later, everybody, oh, I want it done, I want it done, I want it done. How does that make you feel?

Yeah, well, it used to bother me in the past. You know, I went through that whole depression of like sometimes you just ahead of your time. Right. And, you know, I happen to be very good at a young age. And I was probably, you know, probably, you know, one of the best players in the country. And I thought that I would, I should be able to be in a position to go make money in the NFL. But the fact of the matter is that they didn't let me, you know, just the rules were what they were. Excuse me.

and you know I wasn't able to to go and now you know I see kids in college they make you know millions of dollars and sometimes it's just how things shake out you know where you know you happen to be ahead of your time and you mentally have to get over it but on the more serious note you know that was what had me depressed you know where you feel like you know you should be able to make money and take care of yourself and you have a talent and a skill that you can market and potentially go to the end and fail with it and you know do whatever but those two three years I was kicked out of football that's what had me dream that drinking, drugging, and, you know, you feel sorry for yourself, and you keep on replaying, you know, what could have shit and what had happened, and that's the shit that sent me into the streets, but eventually got over it. You know what I mean, like, sometimes, no pun intended, it is what it is. That was the, what happened with me.

I was like, man, it is what it is. And you've got to, you know, rebuild this stuff without football. And that's basically what happened with me. No, absolutely. I was just more amazed that that phrase is, you know, just, it's regular. It's regular.

and we're thinking about 2002 it was, 2001, when that's slow. In 2002. And I'm like, yo, niggas was, like you said, you was a had a day time. You know, Mace has some bars. Mace had some bars. And he said, I treat girls like Kentucky on one and done. And because you go to Kentucky, you're one and done.

You know what I'm saying? Not saying that's his real lifestyle. I'm just saying musically, you know what I'm saying? Clarify. Clarify. Nah, you know, it's bars. You know, I need to just being clever. But I thought that was a very, very clever bar.

Our tree girls, like in Tugia, I want it down, like, oh, nigger think he hot. That was a tough bar. But I've seen that slogan over now. I just wanted to ask you that. But that's dope that we're right now compared to what you went through. All of us, exactly.

Okay. This might be, but for anybody, I will say this kind of thing is important, Like for anybody who go through shit, like people just, you know, sometimes you can stay stuck in those moments mentally, you know, feel sorry for yourself and keep on reliving the past and keep on talking about the past. And, you know, the irony is that like when I look at you and what you'd be going through on the internet, it's kind of like people acting like that stuck in the past. Yeah. And until you get out of that stuff and start to move forward, like you never move forward life. And I don't mean that, I don't take no shots at anybody any type of way. But all that stuff is the same. Like when you just mentally stay stuck in the past or talk about the past, you know, it keeps you on the spot mentally. Absolutely. Yeah, quote of the day right there.

Okay, so Arch Manning, he has a lot of pressure, as we know, because of his last name. So he's really been going through it, not even just on the field, but also on social media because of some of the games that he's played. Maurice, what are some unknown challenges that kids who have famous family go through that others may not know about? I think the one thing that's obvious. The pressure of the kid not really understanding who they want to be versus. who other people expect them to be. You know, and I already thought about this with my daughter. I got two young boys, one is two, one is five,

and then my daughter, she's 19. But when my daughter was growing up, like her trying to find herself, and I can only think about this, if your last name is Manning and you play football, her trying to find herself and what she wants to do versus what other people think that she should be doing because she's my child. And, you know, like me trying to get her to navigate that

and her trying to find herself and me trying to say, like, okay, is she an athlete? am I making her be an athlete? Am I forcing her to do something that she doesn't want to do? And when I look at Arch Manning or anybody who has, like, famous parents who has fans and friends and, you know, people who expect the kid just to come out of, you know, the wound and do the same thing, I ask myself, like, is that something that he suffers from? But then I also like, you know, Mason Cam, I asked myself, like, you know, like with them

having older kids and them being older to me, you know, how have they seen that play out in their kids lives. So that's my take on it, but I was more interested in hearing them. For me, it's real simple. I think I learned early, very early that my kids were in me, you know. I think some people, they force their kids down that road to try to make them similar or quite like them. And I think that's a real travesty because every time like a child, a child is born, they like wired certain ways to do certain things. And if you pay attention to it, you could, to actually maximize it. I recognized early my kids were intellectual

and it wasn't athletes at all. And that was, it was heartbreaking at first because they, both of my kids are like 6-2, 6-3, or it was 6-3-6-4. So I was thinking, I know I got two pros. I'm guaranteed to have two pros. You know what I'm saying? Six-two, six-three.

I'm looking like, man, if I was six-two, I'm in the league still probably right now, at 50, you know, but, you know. You always go too far, man. Niggins from all of me going to go too far. You eat in and that nigger from all of me going to go too far. You can almost rest assured with a nigga from all of me going to go too far.

You can't get on no credit. But I recognize that early, you know what I'm saying? And that was a beautiful thing. The moment I embraced it, the earlier you embraced it, the better. Yeah, that's a great point, Mesa, because you know why? Is that, and for my situation with my son, is that my son used to be like me until about the age of eight, not like me. And because you can't be like me, but he wanted to get the fur coat.

He's wearing the chains and all this is it. And eight years old, and it just changed. And he just became super duper, proper, educated. And I'm saying he wasn't going to be educated. Like, very intelligent and, you know, it's at a point like with me, like even my son, like, I'll be like, yo, let's get some bitches, and he'd be like, yo, stop. Stop.

Stop. I don't want that, I say, yo, bro, telling you right now, you turn 16, you're going to Vegas, I'm getting you some prostitutes. I don't know. No, you're not. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm like, bro, to the point where it's like,

it's not, I said, what happened to you? Man, you, we was on the way to do something. He said, things change. And the nigger, like me, he said, my son is nothing like me. He actually doesn't want people knowing that I'm his dad because he doesn't want people being his friend because I'm his dad, you know, even his Instagram or Facebook or that shit, his shit say,

I cannot get you a record deal, and I'm not from Harlem. In the, It says that in the bio. So I agree with Mace 150%. You can't want them to, you have to let them be what they're going to be. You see, and we go to athletes, you can see a lot of athletes who's under pressure

because their father may have been a superstar. You know, I don't even want to see it in the names. Yeah. And. But that doesn't. Go ahead. no that's what i was saying but like do you like from having a famous son do you can you identify what arch manning might be going through and then you're talking about

Peyton and eli two super bowl two both of them were two super bowl separately oh yeah i think i think when you got that storybook last name you got to almost be a daredevil to take on that same sport i i really um phil paus for all of the kids whose parents are really great at the sport you know and you desire to go down that feel you almost like really got to be cut out for it and really give in I think one of the mistakes that they make is not giving in to everything it takes if you're going to go down that path if you're going to go down that path you're going to get all the accolades for it but you're going to get all the scrutiny for it so you might as well use all the trainers use all the strength and condition

and do everything that they tell you to do so you could be a lead in that area because I believe there's some kids that they listen to their parents and they share. and they shoot up even past their parents. So that's what I would say to that. Yeah, I mean, it depends. It still depends because M.A.'s made a fabulous point. But it's just, it's different scenarios. Okay, so you think of let's just use Manning?

Just top of the top. As a family, you got not just, you got the grandfather Archie Manning. You got Peyton Manning a two-time Super Bowl winner. You got Eli Manning a two-time Super Bowl winner. The only reason Archie father didn't make it to the NFL is because he got hurt. So now you're looking at my potentially,

his father could have been a pro athlete, both my uncles are Super Bowl champions, my grandfather's Super Bowl champion. You have to be top of the top, but Mesa's saying, because how much better can you beat in the family? You get what I'm saying? It's like the family already achieved

the highest of the mountain top. What can you do but just ask? on to the legacy and if you're not adding on to the legacy then it looks like you're under your underachie let's think about we could go brawny you get what i'm saying you sit there yeah your father is considered your father is considered the goat to a lot of people yeah so if you don't if you don't average 20 you're not brawny i mean you're not brawn you but 20's a great number for certain people you know what i'm saying is good yeah if he get 11 and 6 some niggas live off that. But because your LeBron's son, it doesn't make the, it's not good enough because

of who your father is. Let's use another example. Now, you can sit there and say niggas who was very good NBA players, but they wasn't superstars. And their sons kind of fall under the radar until you be like, oh, that's so-and-so, son. Like, it's many times I looked up and watched the NBA game be like, hey, yo, you know, Kenyon Martin, that's Kenyon Martin's son. Hey, your mom's son is playing. You know what I'm saying? Like right now, Carlos Buzer has his son's. It's, yeah, one of their name is Cameron, you know,

number one thing in the country, Cameron Booza. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I told you all that are going to go too far. I told you, Mom, all the niggins are going to go too far. Go ahead, go ahead. You cooking, you cooking. Cameron and Cameron. But what I'm saying is,

Carla Booza, an outstanding player, but he's not on TV every day, he's under the radar, and you sit there and be like, oh, he got the number one and number three kids in the country. You sit there thinking about Gilbert Arena's great player. You're like, oh, but Tom and son get 10th of Lumpur grade, like, oh, he doesn't think of cooking, he's nice, oh, I know he was that nice.

Because you got to think about it, when LeBron James goes to the game, it's a big deal of LeBron James goes to the game. You're not really checking for Carlo Boozer to go to the game until his son start kicking ass. You're like, oh, Carlo Booz and I'll soon came to watch his kids. You think about Cyan, Carmelo, Anthony comes to the game.

Not only Carlano Anthony, Lala comes to the game. You have two famous parents who now the spotlight's on you. So to answer your question, you have to live up the expectations. If you want to go, you don't have to, the people expect you to live up the expectations if you're a Manning, a James, a Jordan.

Look at what we do, not we. out the media to Michael Jordan, son. We just posting, posting on, I'm not posted, well, you could say posting, highlighting his cocaine habit, who he's dating. Yeah. It's Michael Jordan, son, so now, it's not even pro sports no more.

Yeah, why the niggas just sniffing coke like that? Because, because would you care, by the train track. Would you kid, though, I don't mean to just throw anybody name out there, but would you care that much of it was John Paxson. Nah, they wouldn't be zooming in on the cocaine on John Paxson's son.

It's Mike's son, so they want to, that's what comes with the last name. So that's my take on that. So basically, I feel like in that situation, you just can't win. The best bet is this. Yes, you can. Let me give you an example.

Sorry, Marta, go ahead. Yeah, that boy grew up in that big house, that 23 house in Chicago, all that much, get the run, Jordans, get every Jordan you want. I mean, it had to be a fun life. It's two things. You can win because, you know why? Dale Kerry could be your father,

and you got a son named Steph Curry, and then you can end up being better than what your father was. So it's definitely waiting. And then your brother is Seth Curry. Yeah, so. Old brothers get to the league. Right, exactly. And the sister get a boyfriend in the league.

Yeah, exactly. Everybody wins. Right. But if you're talking about as far of athletes is concerned, As far as awfully concern, is that, and we all know this, there's no disrespect to Dale Curry. Stuff surpassed Dale Curry. Yeah.

Currie is pretty decent player. But you can outdo him. It's going to be hard to outdo. He took the shooting though. Yeah. He studied his dad shooting. Yeah, but it's going to be hard to outplay an Eli Payton, man. It's going to be hard to play a LeBron James, top of the top.

Seth Curry came and changed the game. Think about this. and not even an athlete, mom, I'm talking about just famous last names. It was a time when Paris Hilton was just running around DJing everywhere and all the clubs under my wing and a few other niggas' wings.

You understand what I'm saying? And they're like, yo, you're a Hilton. You know we own all this shit in the world, all the hotels, right? Like, why are you running around with all these niggas? and I don't know this for a fact but she just kind of

started DJing for only techno clubs and then you stopped seeing that she was everywhere they said we're going to cut you out the world keep hanging out with them niggas you're not going to get none of this chicken money I'm telling you that right now so the best way to do it if you don't want to be popping or don't try and stay under the radar

as much reason I brought up is try to stay under the radar as much as you can But if you have a famous father, mother, whoever, and they want to come to them games, it's going to be hard to say under the radar. I remember this true story. My son was my son. Niggas was like, yo, I actually cried behind this.

I actually cried. They was like, yeah, we may not. Because my son, elementary school, was connected to the middle school he's going to go to. And it was going to be the same niggas did. I really ain't pop up the school. because all the shit I had going on. Niggas asks me not to come to graduation.

I say, yo, bro, niggas is valiant. Yeah, they're going to see you, and these kids gonna know who you is, da, da, da, da, da. I think it'd be more safe, and I'm like, yo, is you serious? Because it ain't like, I'm no nigger that's not my son's life. I'm with my son from the very beginning to today. Don't come to graduation.

All right, man. without, you know. Yeah, when they go to college, they don't want you to walk them in the dorms. Yeah. Like, man, can you stay in the car? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Stay in the car.

That wasn't my son, it was like the family, like, not, I'm not saying his mother, no, but I don't want to get into specifics so who. But the fact niggas even said that, like, yo. But then if something happened to him in middle school, see, I told you so come. You made it hot for him. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

So it is what it is. Yeah. All good points. Okay, y'all, we're going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss Gino Smith. We'll also talk about the O and two and two and O teams. Don't go anywhere. Here you go, stat.

Okay, y'all. So it's been a minute, but it is now is back. So every Wednesday during the NFL season, we're calling Underdog to discount a player's projection. So just for y'all, we're locking in one player every week. We pick a guy. We'll lower his number and make it even easier for y'all to win. So, Cam, who are we looking at this week?

When I was looking at it, pardon me, I just put my iPad down. Underdog has Tyreek at 67.5. I think it should be 50 and a half. Let me make the call. What's goody, baby? It's flea. Yeah, look, y'all got Tyree Hill at 67 and a half receiving yards.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm calling you about. Make it 50 and a half. You're letting niggas eat, man. So I love you, my nigga. My Caucasian, evil way. I love you, nigga. All right, we good. We good.

See, y'all heard it just like that. So underdog move Tyree kills projection from 67.5 to 50 and a half. The discount is live right now until kickoff tomorrow night. So new and existing customers, make an entry with that. Just make sure you should sign up with code. It is what it is. So next week, it'll be a new player, new discount. Same deal every Wednesday.

Welcome back. Now we're going to get into Gino Smith and the Raiders. So the Raiders lost to the Chargers 20 to 9. However, ahead of their matchup versus the Chargers, Gino said, Vegas is perfect for me. Me being a Miami kid and how I was raised in act, I really didn't fit the culture in reference to Seattle. So so far, Maurice, how good of a fit do you think Gino Smith is for the Raiders right now? Yeah, I just think it's early on. in the entire process. Obviously, Gino Smith and Pete Carroll have a history from being in Seattle together,

and I think that's why he brought him down. But with Chip Kelly being the officer coordinator and him probably just even getting used to what Gino Smith does well, and just the entire team, they were in shambles a couple years ago. I just think it's a process. I know a lot of people are down

on Ashton Gentie right now, and you know, they shouldn't have picked him with the sixth pick overall, but, you know, football just isn't a game where you can just get a bunch of random players, put them on the field, and within one week or within a couple weeks, you just have a bunch of success. And so I think that they'll be good, you know, come long term. I think that the success that Gino Smith had in Seattle, he'll find it with the Raiders. But right now, I think it's too early just to throw the towel in on Gino Smith and Ash and Gentie.

I like Gino, and I like P. Carroll, 100%. The only thing I would say is that, is this, is that, well, first of all, you know, he wasn't on the show. The nigger, the nigger fucking Pac-Man said that Gino Smith's top five quarterbacks, which is just fucking, fucking ridiculous, man. Then he got one touchdown and four interceptions. I like Gino, I'm just saying, for a nigger to put them top five quarterbacks, it's crazy. But I agree with more. I think it's time.

Look, the Raiders haven't been good for a little while. You got the right pieces. It's not going to happen overnight. Not only that, you've got to think about the division that they're in. I like the charges in the division, actually. You know, I was the one talking about their quarterback. It's crazy that the Raiders and the charges and actually the Denver Broncos have a better record than the Chiefs.

The Chiefs are or two. We'll get to that next topic. But give them some time. The only thing I didn't like about this statement was that. when people say that city wasn't a good fit for me, or I didn't like it there. Because you never know when you got to go back there, not necessarily for a vacation or to visit or anything.

You may get traded back there. They may put you there, you may end up back somewhere. You just never know. And I'm not saying it's less likely that he will. But I just think that people shouldn't disrespect the cities that they were in, whether they liked them or not, just keep that opinion to yourself. Because the city didn't do nothing to you.

If it wasn't a good fit for you, tell your niggas, it doesn't need to be publicized. Okay. Now let's go through the O&2 teams first. I mean I was going to say that. Baris, which teams do you think so far can make the playoffs? I'll just read them out for the viewers of Browns, Jets, dolphins, Titans, Panthers, Saints, Bears, Giants, Texans,

Chiefs, Maurice. She couldn't go alphabetical. all of us. You went through all of that to save the cheese for last. Exactly. Exactly. That was intentional. Maurice, what are your thoughts? More playing to this foolishness. Go ahead. So what was the question against that? Yeah, starting with the O and two teams, which teams do you think can make the playoffs?

Or like, which teams do you ever have the best chance? Weren't the Ravens in there? Oh, and two? No, Ravens won. Yes. and one. Ravens one and one.

Well, I would naturally say the chiefs, I think the chiefs out of everybody, they have the ability to turn around their championship program

and championship team, but I was surprised that they're oh and two. I think a lot of people are surprised they're o' and two. So I would say Mace's chiefs are the team that can turn around

and, you know, become victorious. We're on a move, Moe. Paperwork is already in. Who are you right now? Huh? We're negotiating.

We're negotiating. We're negotiating. We're talking to a few people to see if they want to get the act together. I mean, I don't think we're going on 3. I don't know the stats is really going with that, but if you think we're not making the playoffs, y'all tripping. I say a lot of that just to play around with y'all. Y'all think we're not going to be in the playoffs. I don't know what to tell y'all.

So, so are you saying the chiefs on your team is here? Mo, Mo, you can't move. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to tell you. down to... Mo, you can't move heaven that fast, Mo. Heaven don't move like that, you know? I got the chiefs and stat gave me out. She said, what's your second team?

So I got two teams, Mo. I got the chiefs over here, and I got the commanders. And we're looking pretty good. So, you know, I'm sticking with the red and gold. That's how I came in it. That's how I'm going out. out cause yo yo mo your team is the browns right cleveland yeah yeah yeah man i respect the loyalty man be a cleveland thing yeah that's it yeah yeah they got it cleveland indians

yeah you gotta be tough man i respect but you like me you gonna go down with the shit money you ain't you ain't you ain't waffling you ain't you ain't you're going down with the shit mo Oh, well, look, Misery Love Company. You see he had the prefaces that your team was the Browns because he was the Bengals. No, no, I bought that up because your team is always the Browns since we've been, and I'm like, yo, to, you know, because some niggas will be like, yo, I can't deal with it no more.

I ought to get a backup team just because, like, yo, the Browns ain't been good since I don't know when. Like it was a, it was a, it was a, a shining light for a little minute when Baker Mayfield was there and then y'all was at OBJ for a minute it looked like something was about to marinate

and it just didn't so I just saying that man I respect it I respect that you go down with the ship I have to agree with Motto if anybody on this list can make it to the playoffs still it's the Kansas City Chiefs

it's not even a hard option of all the teams that are owing to if I had to pick a team after that they make the playoffs on this list I'll probably pick my end So now looking at the 2-0 teams Which teams, even though they're 2-0 They're doing good so far

Are you not buying the hype for? So basically I'm going to name the team And you say yes or no Starting with the Packers, Maurice Yes Of course Yeah, I believe in the Packers Okay, the Bills

Yes Of course Yep Eagles yeah yes yeah of course yeah chargers uh no absolutely not yes oh my goodness cam you they run the division murder all right he reminds me a lot of Alex Smith that's nice for you he's he beat Patrick Mahomes in Brazil in Brazil Still, killed that, niggas, actually. He's won to know against Patrick Mahon this year.

You know Alex Mayfuss? Yes. Who is he? He's your quarterback before Patrick Mahomes and actually he played for the San Francisco 49ers before that, then Hypernik took his spot. Do you know him? I just brought him up to bring him up Kansas City.

The reason why I know you're not that familiar with them because I asked you several times who was the quarterback before Patrick Mahomes. That's why I brought him. them up today. Yeah, you probably, after three seasons, you finally learned to Alex Smithers. Thank you.

It's been only three seasons I've been acting who Alex Smith is, well. I'm glad. I do it when I want to, though. I had to bring it up when I want to. I can't bring it up when you tell me to. There's a lot of problem, no problem. Yeah, I'm happy.

Yeah, I'm just letting you know. All right, cool. I've been doing a little studying, you know? Good, good. You should know about your team. Okay. I'm informed. formed the Rams Marys I'm not I'm not buying the Rams no um now I'm not buying the Rams

Rams it's a good one that's it's pretty tough man um now I got to go with no okay Mike Sharman great enough okay the bucks This might be my third team. This might be my third team. I'm not going to pick a third team. I really like what the Buccaneers are doing. Baker Mayfield is up there. Pause.

I got to go. Yeah, I'm going to go with the Bucks. I'm going to say yes because they're in a weak division. Every year that division is so fucking weak. A lot of teams, you know, with Tom Ray, they came and killed. But that's the only division that I can think of off top of my head, that you don't even have to be 500. to make the playoffs because everybody knows who yeah because everybody knows that no matter

who wins the division goes to the playoffs but teams in that division don't even be 500 but i do like what tampa bay is doing you know i love mike evans chris godwin isn't even back uh bucky and running back it looks really good and yes baker mayfield so i do believe in Tampa bayers especially in that week as division okay marise the colts um i'm not i'm not i'm not buying day Jones no you not I got a show damn Jones some love um pause yeah I'm gonna go I'm buying it only reason only reason I'm gonna buy it is because the division again think about it if you think about who would usually win this division is the Houston Texans and the Houston Texans haven't been looking good in the last year they didn't look that good

and they're not starting off this year looking that good you know um Strout had a real good rookie season, but it's not looking like the rookie season last year, and it's not looking like the rookie season in the start of this year. And I'm looking at the teams in the division. We're not thinking about Jacksonville and Jaguars like that. Houston Texans, like I said,

they are the team that we thought might win it, but they started off 0 and 2. And we got a rookie quarterback, we know we all rooting for Cam Newton. Pardon me, not Cam Newon. We all rooting for Cam Ward, but what is he really, have around him it's going to take a little bit of time for him to get that team off the ground

because he needs more weapons defense needs to play better so on and so forth so i am going to go with the indiana uh indianapolis courts only because of the division again okay maurice the 49ers i'm not buying the 49ers man man what happened to the 49ers they was just hard a year ago no i'm definitely not buying it what happened to the 49ers That's a good, that's a good one. You got to think about this. I'm not going to buy it solely because of injury. Rock Purdy is out.

They lost Debo. Yeah, absolutely. He lost Debo. And, damn, what's O.J. Man name that he still always say? Ayuk is still injured. And, like, he was out most of last year, and he still hasn't played this year. So only because of injury,

but I look at division again, sit there and say we don't believe in the Rams. You don't believe in the 49ers. Only two teams left in the division. So do you believe in Arizona, which I believe that's probably gonna access because they're two and out? Or do you believe in Seattle? I would believe the most in the Rams in the division now

only because San Francisco has injury. That's another division that's up for grabs. Okay, last two, Maurice the Cardinals. Yeah, I made some good points right there. But no, I don't believe in the Cardinals. I don't, but I would have to, according to that, the teams that Killer was talking about, they definitely could come out of there.

So I'm going to go, I'm buying that. Yeah, I don't believe in the Cardinals, but then we're sitting here, right? And we said, statename three teams, because there's three teams in the division. It's two and O sitting here looking at it. If we don't believe in the 49ers, and we don't believe in Arizona. We don't believe in Rams.

Who the fuck do we believe in in that division? Because somebody's going to the playoffs. Seattle is in that division. So I want to rearrange one of my answers to that. I'm going to say I believe in the Rams because we have to pick somebody in the division, even though three teams are 3 and 0 and 2 and 0 in the division. I'm going to change my answer with the Rams.

I believe in the Rams because of the injury to the 49. Okay. And then the last one, Maurice, the Bengals. No, I think, no, I think it's always, Joe Burroughs out, and I don't know if they regretting, playing him early in the preseason. I know, injuries happen, and I don't know if it was just too much mileage on his foot, would that cause a turf toe? I don't know. But I don't think the Bengals are going to fare well with, you know, Joe Burroughs being out again. I think this is like year three or four of him consistently, you know, missing parts of the season.

And it just takes a lot. They're in a tough division, too. Mo, according to Killer, we don't get Tom Brady without bless or getting hurt. So maybe this is a great moment for the new quarterback. I kind of agree with that. So I'm going to support Ohio. With everything I heard today, I'm going to support Ohio since we got the two Ohio natives here today. You sound like a politician right there.

Yeah, ma'all, I gotta get my kick back, you know? Yeah, listen. I'm going with Browning, man. We gotta go out with Browning, man. We're going to do it, man. Listen, and with all these teams of stats just brought up to us, this is a tough division. I think about it.

We're in the division with the Ravens, potentially Pittsburgh, you know, Cleveland, you know, whatever. but Henry Rogers you see how he was acting last week inconsistent you know very well the Ravens could be two and no barring a

a Derek Henry fumble they could be two and no but it's a tough division but yo you gotta believe man you gotta believe man I'm going with Brown and the crew man more just thought to chasing him

Niggins, niggins, yes, I believe, I believe. That's what a die-hard fan sounds like, man. That's why I'm laughing. I don't want to jinx it. All his faith is in this, too. Because if I don't want to jinx it, we, look, let me tell you, son, this is another day with another one of our spectacular analysts on the show,

where I'm the only person with a two-in-o-tie. Oh, my goodness. It's a beautiful week, man. It's a good week, man. He'll be about to change my mind. It's a good week, man. What can I say? Well, I'm thinking Brown ain't going to get it done.

Pause, for real. I'm really sensing it. He might get it done. It might be the changing of a new era. Now, if he plays well, killer, if he plays well, let's say they're 2 and 0 right now. And he takes this team, say to what's doable

seven seven and six or eight and you know let's say he gets his team to seven and six are you believing it if he keeps it out of 500 with his first year playing what are you saying like believe like not the whole season

but let's say they make it to where he gets five more wins are we believing that he could he could play better if he had more time this is where it goes like this is a jimmy garabolo situation he could go 12 and on and Joe Burrow is coming back to say thank you for going 12 and oh. That's just the way it is. Joe Burrow, nigger.

See, people, you know, a lot of people, because Moen, you made some points in that, and like I said, I'm on the record for saying the best abilities of availability, but let's think about this. You just said to Joe Burrow consistently hurt. Maybe he played the whole season last year. Before that he got hurt, before that he got hurt, then he went to the the Super Bowl, and before that he got hurt. But let's think about this. He has 142 touchdowns as opposed to 46 interceptions. He has the all-time completion passing percentage in NFL history.

Whatever quarterback, whatever you want to name, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, everybody. So at the end of the day, Joe Burrow comes back, Browning, you nice. Thank you. If he gets the 14 and 3, I don't think they're making that decision. What you mean? If he, huh? That's a hot tape. Yeah, if he, if Jake Browning get that team to 14 and 3, they'll have more to consider.

Well, what I'll say is this. Man, they're paying. What I'll say is this is that maybe they'll sit Joe Burrow out for the rest of the year. But if you think Browning would start next year, they'll just be like his injury. They're paying it. Mo was about to say it, 275 million. Yeah. Nobody's picking that up, nigga.

He gets paid $275 million. But what happened is, to me, the same scenario with Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy Garapolo with the Patriots were playing super duper good when Tom Brady got hurt for, you know, Tom Brady didn't get hurt often. But when he did get hurt, Bill Belichick running around talking about, yo, yeah, this is the quarterback of future. I got him, I got him. Tom said, well, this is where, to me, their relationship was sound.

Thompson, word. Hey, oh, Robbie, Robert Kraft, that is, to the people that don't know. This nigga Bill Wilder talking about he's staying in, he's the quarterback of the future. I'll be ready in two weeks. Tell Bill, son.

And Tom Brady came back, even though Jimmy Garoppolo's winning games. Not only that, I don't want him in the building no more. I don't even like the backup situation. See what you can get for the nigger. And we'll work from there, I don't even like him.

I feel uncomfortable with him around here. It's the same scenario. Pretty much. Yeah. So even if Browning plays good, but what happened is Browning would get a contract offered with another team next year and be like, yo, you could be our starting quarterback. It will not be in Cincinnati.

But if May said 14 and 3, what I think they would do is let them ride into the playoffs, Browning, that is, and finish it out and say Joe Burrow is getting healthy and getting itself together and he's going to start fresh next year. But if he goes 14 and 3, then, yeah, they're going to let them ride to the playoffs, absolutely, and they'll say that Joe Burroughs get himself together, and Joe Burrow should get itself together

because what you don't want to happen is this. You don't want them to say, let's say he go, like you just said, 7 and 6, and if they win their next two games, they can make the playoffs, and Joe Burrow is a little bit healthy. Yeah. You get hurt.

It gets hurt again. So I think scenarios play out in this situation. Yeah. Well, y'all, in the comments down below, let us know which teams you're believing in. But that is all the time that we have for today. Maurice, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Likewise.

Love being here. Yeah, Moe, looking good. Maurice. Thanks for the solidarity today, man. I appreciate it, man. Okay. Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.

What you want, nigga, everything nigger, super size, too big necks, like when they doing them two for five.