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Episode Date: May 28, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:59 Mace and cam. What up? Killer was good, man. Cowboy shit. What's that about? What's that about? What's going on? Putting my country album out.
Starting point is 00:01:13 What's going on? You want to explain to me what's really going on? College fits you these days. I'm trying to figure out what exactly is going on now. It's just stylish. I'm just saying, I didn't know if it was something of mine.
Starting point is 00:01:29 If it's a style, I'm just asking. You just style it? Nah, God sent me this from Dallas, man. Okay. From the Mavericks.
Starting point is 00:01:38 All right. Now it's the Mavericks. Nah, I know you got other business in Dallas. I didn't know. When I see you in Dallas game, your seats look like they was far back
Starting point is 00:01:50 when you put it on your Instagram. It don't look like they love you out there. The seats you was sitting there when I see you on Instagram, I'm like, damn, they did murder dirty. I don't even know how murder tolerate them seats. How you could have sort of gained from where you was sitting there?
Starting point is 00:02:04 You can see, I can't see from that far. That was disrespectful, because I didn't know you were scouting and showing love. I was closing a deal and said I got one,
Starting point is 00:02:15 you know, I was trying to be normal with them. All right. It must have been not a good deal to have you up there. No, all right,
Starting point is 00:02:24 I'm up there. All right. All right. All right. Say less. All right. Well, I'll see you in Dallas today. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Say no more. Okay, so shout out Dallas. But let's get into the Celtics game. So the Celtics sweep the Pacers after beating them 105-102 in-game or two advance to the NBA finals. Are you guys satisfied with the outcome of this series? I mean, to start off, I mean, it's not it's not Dallas, as you can tell. You know, these days, Dallas is the only way to go.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Title Town. It's on the move. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, what you expect? They don't have the greatest show on earth, you know? I mean, this game was close, but I don't think any of us thought that the Pacers was going to win.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Can we agree on that? And Stat got on her Dallas Blue. How you feel, Stat? You told Killer you were in your Dallas Blue? It's just coincidence. But I'm not going to lie. At first, I didn't think, like I knew the Celtics had it, but I did give the Pacers a lot more leeway. I thought they were going to have a couple of games in.
Starting point is 00:03:42 No, but did you tell Killer you were in your Dallas Blue? Is that what it is today? You said that when Killer wasn't here. No, I said coincidentally it's Dallas blue, but I still got to speak to my... Oh my goodness. Okay, let's get back to the Celtics. You becoming more Jersey as we go.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I thought you was from Jacksonville, but when it come to the Celtics, I mean, we expected them to win. We expected Batman to be Batman and Robin to be Robin. This is this is how they win. They win better when Jalen Brown is the focal point of the team. And I'm going to keep saying this even when they get to the championship. And we'll I want to pay attention to when they lose, how they lost, or when they win, how they win,
Starting point is 00:04:29 because that's going to tell me a lot about this Celtic team. And, I mean, just when they get to the point of Jalen Brown, I'm going to start with him getting 29 points, 11 from 22 from the field, 4 from 8 from the three-pointer. When you got somebody shooting 50% from the three and they're a potential star on the team, it's going to be a long night. And I don't think the Celtics was in any trouble, even when it looked like it was close. We knew when it comes down to it, it's the stars that win the games.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And when you don't have another star to match up with the Celtics, you're not going to win. It's just that simple. Siakam had 19-10. I think he did very well, but they need another star. Even after Halliburton, they're going to need another star to contend in the East, especially when that Knicks team come back. There you have it,
Starting point is 00:05:30 Sin. I threw a shout out there for the Knicks. Yeah, this to be honest with you, my personal opinion the two games that Halliburton didn't play was more competitive when Halliburton did play. Again, last night going to the fourth quarter, a nine-point lead where eight and change left,
Starting point is 00:05:50 and they couldn't score. The last three minutes and 30 seconds of the game, Indiana did not score. And fucking Boston scored seven points. It was a competitive game, but like Mace said, nobody thought they would win with Halliburton. It isn't really much to talk about for me.
Starting point is 00:06:13 What I did, what I will say is this. I was watching a lot of shows last week because, you know, I like to scout our competition. And last Thursday and Friday on shows that come on You know, I like to scout our competition. And last Thursday and Friday, on shows that come on around the time that we come on, verbatim, verbatim,
Starting point is 00:06:35 they were saying, when it comes to the Celtics, who's Batman and who's Robin? And I was like, are they really going to use the Batman and Robin phrase? Like, word to mother, I was like are they really gonna use the Batman and Robin phrase like word to mother I was looking at it and I was like
Starting point is 00:06:48 this is kinda crazy that niggas would actually use they didn't even go with like Scooby Doo and Scrappy so like
Starting point is 00:06:56 I don't even they like my nigga they'll never use the same exact phrase and it was topics on top of it and you know
Starting point is 00:07:04 it wasn't about what they said it was more about like yo it's because y'all get your own content my nigga period but uh jalen brown played outstanding he won the eastern conference mvp and maybe mason's right maybe this is the formula for them to win a championship. Hasn't been working any other way, but they were sealed two years ago. So maybe like how D. Wade and LeBron figured it out or
Starting point is 00:07:33 any other two great players and they're not there just yet. Like Luke and Kyrie, they need to figure it out and maybe Jalen Brunson, Jalen Brown needs to be the one and Tatum needs to be the two and we'll see what happens
Starting point is 00:07:50 but I don't really think they've been tested by anybody yet to be totally honest with you and when they get to the next round we'll see if that remedy pays off but so far in the Eastern Conference it has I would rather see them play Dallas I thought I would want rather see them play Dallas.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I thought I would want to see them play Minnesota because Minnesota's been very exciting throughout the playoffs until Dallas. And even with Dallas, these have been close games. They've been really good games. But I would love to see the storyline of Kyrie going back to Boston and play against each other,
Starting point is 00:08:22 play against one another because Boston doesn't like him and he doesn't like Boston. I think that'll be a bigger storyline. Yeah, for both teams, it's a must win. It's a must win. I think Danny Ainsley even come back to the Garden for that. Right. And then before we even move on to the next question,
Starting point is 00:08:40 that was a pretty big statement, the Batman and Robin reference. Mace, considering that's what you've been saying, how do you feel about that? Well, I mean, it's becoming more apparent every day. I wish OJ was here to see this. OJ, look, oh, I turned out to be the expert. to be the expert. I know I shouldn't say it, but every morning niggas is jacking
Starting point is 00:09:10 everything we say. I mean, one time they were even saying something that Killer was saying. I was just like, yo, niggas, this called plagiarism. That's what it's called. And it lets us know how groundbreaking what we're doing is it's called, stat. And it lets us know how groundbreaking
Starting point is 00:09:25 what we're doing is. So, thank you, Cam. I'm saying, nah, so far so good, but they didn't win yet.
Starting point is 00:09:34 They was already here when I guess Taylor was here and Jalen being Batman and Jalen being Robin. They did this already. We'll see if you're right if they win the championship.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And if they don't, I don't know what to say about Boston, bro. Because you're being, basically the last two, three years, y'all been the best team in the Eastern Conference and not being able to get the job done. Something about Boston, it has nothing to do with Tatum or Real or nothing.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Hadn't been feeling right. Watching this series, it convinced me a little more. When I watched Missoula, the coach, that nigga don't get no haircut. That nigga's scruffy. He's stressed the fuck out. You know, NBA coach's job is not really easy. I remember Ty Lue when he was coaching Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:10:18 He said, coaching LeBron James is the hardest job in America. He had to take time off from coaching because the pressure on them to win with a good team is probably tremendous. And I look at that nigga, I'm like, you don't get no haircuts, you don't get no shape-ups. Seem like you haven't got one since you've been with the Celtics. But I can imagine the pressure on him to win
Starting point is 00:10:37 with a $320 million nigga and a nigga that's going to probably get 390s and so on and so forth, you're supposed to win. So, we'll see what happens. But so far,
Starting point is 00:10:50 so good. Yeah, and definitely as a black coach in Boston, it's crazy. You know, he got to win. Because the last guy
Starting point is 00:10:57 that was there was supposed to win. And then looking ahead to the game tonight, Mavs versus the Timberwolves game for what's you guys' prediction? Do you guys game tonight Mavs versus the Timberwolves game four what's you guys prediction do you guys think the Mavs have
Starting point is 00:11:09 it or do you guys think the Timberwolves got a chance guess I'll ask the man with the cowboy hat first yeah them niggas is going on bye bye bye bye bye bye is all I can say I mean just think about it right now. They're playing Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:11:26 If you let the team get up 3-0, you can't think it's going back to Minnesota. I think that would be foolish. Get them niggas out of here. I told them when this series started, I don't put nobody before Kyrie. I don't put LeBron before Kyrie. When it comes down to it, I'm going with Kyrie because I know at put LeBron before Kyrie. When it comes down to it, I'm going with Kyrie because I know at any point
Starting point is 00:11:48 he could get a basket. And shout out to LeBron. Shout out to Rich Paul. But that's just a personal preference of mine. Pause. Kyrie. It doesn't matter. If he got the ball,
Starting point is 00:11:59 they can win the game. You definitely said that, but then you still picked Minnesota to win. So, you can't lose either way. I don't go against Kyrie, but I'm going to make, I want Minnesota to win. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:12:16 You see the hat I got on. Do I got a wolf hat on? Do I got a wolf hat on? This particular series, I'll give you a pass because you don't, you've mixed your colors up. You usually go by what colors you see and you can't get a grasp on what team to go with. If we asked Mace who he was going to pick, he might as well just said the blue and white team. That way, that way it didn't matter who wins because he said, I'm going to go with the blue and white team.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But you don't go against Kyrie, but pick Minnesota to win. But now I don't even know how Rich Paul and LeBron got in this. How did they even get in this to where you got to bring them up because you want to go with Kyrie? I don't get it. But I'm going to give Minnesota the win tonight, man. I want to say they got a little bit too much pride to go with Kyrie. I don't get it, but I'm going to give Minnesota the win tonight, man. I want to say they got a little bit
Starting point is 00:13:07 too much pride to go get swept. Hopefully, they win two games. I would love to see this series be extended, paused, and move on,
Starting point is 00:13:18 but 154 series in NBA history when you're up 3-0, they don't come back. Just think about last year, you're up 3-0 they don't come back. Just think about last year Boston was down 3-0 or 0-3 I should say in the Eastern Conference Finals
Starting point is 00:13:32 and they came back to tie it up 3-3 but they ended up losing and not going to the championship but it's been done when you're down 0-3 to come back and get it 3-3
Starting point is 00:13:42 but just haven't been able to get over the hump. I would like to see Minnesota win tonight. I'm going to go with Minnesota tonight. What do you think ought to happen for them to win? Because when you look at this Minnesota team, they're not missing anything on that team.
Starting point is 00:14:00 To be honest with you, they don't... They have a great, great, outstanding cast. They don't have a sniper, though. I'm talking about a shooter. Oh, yeah, that's what they meant. They don't have a sniper on the team. And when you have Kyrie and Luka on the other end,
Starting point is 00:14:17 not only could they get to the basket, get their shot, got a great mid-range game, but when you need a three, you could go to either one of them. Lively has stepped up. Gafford is amazing. Washington, Harrison. Look, they got a great team over there, but they don't have that sniper.
Starting point is 00:14:35 You have a great point. I'm talking about Minnesota. You got a great point guard. You got a great two guard. Nas Reed, six man of the year. The new fake-ass Twin Towers, if you want to call them niggas. Rudy Gobert, Carl Anthony Towns, Mike Conley.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Great staff, but they don't have one of them niggas like, don't let him get free. Culver. They need a Culver. Yeah, and not saying that Ant-Man ain't a dog, but you're not scared if he's open for a three. He can knock down a three. He has a decent jump shot.
Starting point is 00:15:05 But, no, I'm talking about Kyle Cobra. Yeah. LeBron had that with, what was the dude, James something? James Jones. Ray Allen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Ray Allen. Yeah, so, I don't know if that's exactly what they need because the thing is, from series to series, everything is looking different. You got to think about this.
Starting point is 00:15:28 We all picked outside of Phoenix at the beginning of the year, or at least me and Mace did, Denver to get back. And they made that Denver series look pretty easy, to be totally honest with you. Yeah. And so I thought this would be a better series. But honestly, it's definitely not looking like a better series. Think about this.
Starting point is 00:15:50 OKC had won a couple games by now against Dallas. And I thought that Minnesota might have been a better team than OKC. But now we see why OKC probably came in number one in the West this year. Very underrated team. Yeah, the only real difference is that Ant-Man woke Kyrie up. Kyrie was playing like cool some days, but once he said,
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm looking forward to playing against Kyrie. I'm looking forward to guarding him. It's like, okay. I get it. And somebody told Kyrie, listen, these young niggas is saying they got you.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, this is true. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I've seen all type of memes and gifs and skits and so on and so forth. And, you know, Sin always called,
Starting point is 00:16:43 because Sin is a hater. Ever since Jalen Brunson's been eliminated, Shea Gildress ain't shit. Yeah, looks all this Ant-Man, Jordan shit y'all talking. I said, Sin, now you running with Dallas. He talk about, yeah, Sham is the homie. He's hauling one. Like, bro, you wasn't running with Dallas, man.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Now everything he does is hate on Ant-Man. Y'all keep talking about these young niggas and this. I'm like, bro, Ant-Man is good. And no disrespect, because of age, because of size, because of athletic shit, and this is no disrespect, if I had to and I had a choice, I'm picking Ant-Man over
Starting point is 00:17:27 Jalen Brunson. That was his argument. Why? Because he younger? Yeah, that too. I got more time with him in the future. Not only that, he's 6'5", 6'6". I think Jalen Brunson is great, but if you're asking me to make a choice,
Starting point is 00:17:45 I'm going to go with Ant-Man. And no disrespect to Jalen Brunson. I think Jalen Brunson is great, but if you're asking me to make a choice, I'm going to go with Ant-Man. And no disrespect to Jalen Brunson, I think Jalen Brunson is top five guards in the NBA. Listen, right now it's guaranteed he's top 10 in the NBA, second team, all NBA. But, you know, his argument was who you got first to third with Shea uh Jalen Brunson and Anthony Edwards and I was like Jalen Brunson is third no disrespect respectfully he's third but I'm not sure if I'm going to put Ant-Man a shade first one and two. Now, to me, that's a better argument. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:30 since the Knicks been out, he's been on a terror just hating on everybody who's still around. Okay. And then this next part is kind of like a two-part discussion.
Starting point is 00:18:40 So this first part is, Stephen A. Smith read a text on air from an NBA source that says Jalen Brown isn't likable. So this first part is Stephen A. Smith read a text on air from an NBA source that says Jalen Brown isn't likable. So it said, it's not so much that he's underrated. It's just that he's not liked because of his I am better than attitude. And that's why he's not marketable. Isaiah Thomas jumped in to share his disapproval with what Stephen A. said and came to Jalen Brown's defense. And Jalen Brown subtweeted what Stephen A
Starting point is 00:19:05 said, basically saying, state your source. Stephen A then responded saying, as a journalist, that's not happening. So what do you guys think about the whole entire discussion? You know, Stephen A sharing his source, but not saying who the source is. And then when do you guys think you should state your source? Let me start with when you should state your source. When you're saying exactly what somebody else said, like Killa was talking about earlier. If you're taking our quotes, you're taking what he said, you're taking what I'm saying, you're using it verbatimly, pause. You need to cite your source. They even tell you that if you're speaking
Starting point is 00:19:47 in churches or anywhere, if you take another man's message, you got to say, this guy said this. You know what I'm saying? You can't just cite this information without giving a credit to the source. I remember one time when we first started, I didn't know that. Kaila said, you know, you need to, you need to, what is it, Weinhardt, what's the dude name from ESPN
Starting point is 00:20:09 that follows LeBron? Brian? Winhurst. Brian Winhurst, yeah. He kept saying, yo, Mace,
Starting point is 00:20:17 you gotta cite the man. You gotta say, you got that. I didn't know, I was just saying the exact same thing. Kaila said, you got that off of ESPN.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It's the same thing. But when he's talking about Jalen Brown, which is Batman right now, it sounds like he's, and I love Stephen A., but it sounds like to a young guy's ears, they're hearing that like you're hating and you're trying to create a narrative about me without, you know, without and trying to hide behind somebody else. Now, I don't know Stephen A to do that, but that's what pretty much Jalen Brown, I meant Jalen Brown is saying. You're trying to hate on me. Throw a rock and hide your hand by saying you citing your sources when really you're the source. Have you ever been hated on by somebody and they were the source and they say, yo, this is what niggas is saying. Who is niggas, yo?
Starting point is 00:21:14 Niggas is you. Nice. And I'm not saying this is what Stephen A is doing, but that's what Jalen Brown is trying to say. I think I agree with you i think that it's two different generations the generation gap yeah where stephen a is uh older not calling them older anything there's older journalism and before tv comes from journalism and a writer, right? For the beat and so on and so forth. And newspapers to where you'll get information and the person who tells you don't want you to let them know, let people know that that's where they got the information from.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So we're in an era where niggas is like, fuck all that, man. If you don't tell me who said it, you said it. Yeah. Basically. Nigga, you said it. Yeah, until you tell me who said it, I'm taking it as you said it. And I think to me, personally, I like that.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I dig Steve and A because that's the culture he comes from that's where he came up from and not only that sometimes when you're talking to people on the phone even myself people over the years I'm talking about I know who write or do this, that, and the third
Starting point is 00:22:38 and you're talking and you're feeling free pause just having a regular conversation with them and you're like hold on, because there's certain words you use with writers. This is off the record. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:50 If you don't say that, niggas sometimes will just take whatever conversation you're having with them and write it up and do whatever. You got to tell writers this is strictly off the record.
Starting point is 00:23:01 They'll be like, all right, cool. So, when you sit there and say, Jalen Brown's not marketable, it ain't like a nigga said his mother's a bitch or he's a bitch-ass nigga
Starting point is 00:23:19 or this, that, and third. I don't see nothing wrong with saying who said it. You know what I'm saying? Me personally, it isn't that egregious to where you'd be like, I got to hide the source. And I get't see nothing wrong with saying who said it. You know what I'm saying? Me personally, it isn't that egregious to where you'd be like, I got to hide the source. And I get it, Stephen H. from a different background.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But to me, this isn't that big a deal to where you have to hide the source. They just said he's not likable, he's not marketable. Now, if it's somebody who works within the Boston Celtics organization and they'd be like, I don't need Jalen Brown not liking me because I don't want to lose my job because they're not going to get rid of him. He's the superstar here. I'm just a nigga who work here and I could potentially lose my job. I don't need that getting out. So I can understand that point of view as well.
Starting point is 00:24:01 You was going to say something? Yeah, I was going to say several things. that point of view as well. He was going to say something. Yeah. I was going to say several things. Um, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:08 Stephen is from that time. Like we're from in a sense where, I mean, even not us, but he's from that time where, you know, just like a cop, if he have a snitch, he's not going to give up his snitch.
Starting point is 00:24:20 He's going to keep the snitch in the, in the, in the back. So he can keep getting the information. That's pretty much what he's trying to say. If I give up my source, this is the other side of that. If I give up my source, then you're going to go and try to use the same source. So he's keeping that information for himself. But when it comes down to Jalen Brown, I think what people miss is that if you start spreading that a person is not likable and a person is not marketable, you could potentially be stopping a lot of bags
Starting point is 00:24:53 for this person, right? And when it comes to branding, when it comes to endorsements, when it comes to movies these days, because basketball players are doing a lot commercials so you you gonna go out there and say i'm not likable because you don't like the person what makes them not likable i think it i think some more context needed to be given to that and that's that's that's i think i think sorry i think that's what the conversation is about. I think that they're not us. I'm talking about the original conversation with Stephen A. They're saying that the reason he doesn't have more is because he's not likable. He doesn't have a lot of commercials.
Starting point is 00:25:35 It isn't like niggas like, where the Jalen Brown sneakers at? What is he wearing? Like, that's what they're saying, I believe. That they're saying the reason he doesn't have more is because he's not likable, because he should be having all the stuff that any other superstar is getting outside of basketball. So I think that's where the conversation stems from. Why isn't he in a Wheaties commercial?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Why he's not in a Gatorade commercial? Why he's not having the Jalen Brown shoe or whatever the case may be. Because he's super dark skinned and he got cornrows. Right. Maybe so. But that's back to...
Starting point is 00:26:09 That's... That's straight up, like, shit, we say niggas want to sneak and say he's not likable. But maybe so. That could be it. I'm not saying that is the reason,
Starting point is 00:26:22 but shit, I think he's very intelligent, very smart. So the way he talks, sometimes smart people and intelligent people who talk very well, have an extensive vocabulary come off snobbish and they don't mean to, but it's just the way they come off. I love my nigga and I'm glad he's my man, but sometimes I tell him, like, my nigga Jacob, I'll be like, yo, Jacob, you're coming off like,
Starting point is 00:26:50 because he talks very intelligently and has a big vocabulary. Yeah. So sometimes, it's, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I seen a nigga, Kevin Hart years ago do a stand-up, and he was saying how,
Starting point is 00:27:07 he was arguing with nigga Club, and I don't know if it's a real scenario or not I thought it was hilarious and a nigga was talking to him with all this shit and telling the nigga this, that, and the third and they was arguing but Homeboy had an extensive vocabulary and the nigga, he was arguing, was like I don't know what you mean
Starting point is 00:27:23 so I'm going gonna take it as disrespect yeah like i don't understand the words you're saying but your persona i'm gonna take it as you're disrespecting me because of your body language because the words you're saying I don't know what you're saying but all this with it I'm going to take it as disrespect and I just think that
Starting point is 00:27:54 if you ever hear Jalen Brown talk or speak he's very you know when he got his 327 million dollar deal however much it's for he's talking about how he's going into Boston
Starting point is 00:28:03 and try to put a bridge that the wealth gap in Boston to where it seems like one part of Boston is rich, one part of Boston isn't. He wants it to be more together. And he didn't even say that about his hometown where he's from. He's saying that that was the first thing he's going to do when he got his money with his new check. And I'm not sure if he did it or not, but it didn't seem like he was appearing to be lying. But that's, I think he's very intelligent and very smart. And sometimes niggas want a nigga nigga. I don't think he's that. I don't think he's a nigga nigga. Well, he did go to school. It's amazing because he did go to school at Willow High School in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And then he went to California, which is both schools that are pretty intelligent. Right. This conversation is so funny to me because I literally get told that all the time. People think that I come across as snobby. And I'm like, that's just how I am. Y'all don't really know how to explain it to you. So you're just snobbish? I'm not snobbish at all. You just said that's just how you are.
Starting point is 00:29:11 No, that's how it sounds. Like I can't change how I sound or articulate or say a certain language, but it's just like, oh, you think you better than me? Like, no, that's just how I talk. So they used to text me that too. They say, yo, Mase think he better than niggas. I say, yo, that's a lie. I know I'm better than y'all niggas. But that's another question. Okay, so this is the second part of the discussion that we're talking about because Draymond Green basically came out
Starting point is 00:29:38 on a podcast with Shaq and talked about his frustrations with Stephen A, where he said he has lost respect for some people in media. To his point, it was the fact that he had a personal relationship with Stephen A, where he said he has lost respect for some people in media. To his point, it was the fact that he had a personal relationship with Stephen A. Smith, which led him to believe that he would speak positively about his character. But now he feels like he's shown that he wouldn't do that. So basically, with so many people getting into media and based off of the tweet that we literally just read between Stephen A. and Jalen Brown,
Starting point is 00:30:04 media and based off of the tweet that we literally just read between Stephen A and Jalen Brown, what do you guys feel like is on and off limits when it comes down to criticizing athletes, talent, people in the industry, all the above? How do you guys feel about that? Because, you know, people feel some type of way about it. I think when it comes to critiquing anyone, it should be accurate. I think it should be accurate based upon facts, not based upon feeling. One thing I used to always hate about the media is that people speak biasly. I'm all for it if a person is holding that same energy pause for everybody. But when a person just directly have that energy for you and then they change it up as it come to other people, that's what I really don't like. But when it comes to critiquing people, I think it should definitely be factual what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:31:00 So is it refutable? So is it refutable? But but other than that, it should be non-biased because that's the best kind of critique that, you know, this person shoot straight with everybody or this person is gracious with everybody. But don't be gracious with this person. And then over the top with that person, like what was the box analyst that I used to like before he passed away? the um boxer analyst that i used to like um before he passed away that he will always he would do it to floyd he would pause doing the roy jones what's the the the old the old short guy with the white hair larry murchin yeah larry murchin is dead yeah you said before he passed away i don't know larry merchant dead he just got rid of him on hbo he's not dead i don't know if Larry Merchant dead. He just got rid of him on HBO. He's not dead? I don't think so. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I mean, he old, but I don't know if he dead. Yeah, he's 93. Yeah. He's alive and well at 93. Oh, my bad, my bad. Put Larry in the ground like that.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah, my bad, my bad. It's crazy. But I'm saying, he was one of those people. He was definitely on Floyd's case. He was definitely on Floyd's case. He was definitely on Roy. He did the same thing
Starting point is 00:32:08 with everybody, even Mike Tyson. Anybody that was cocky, he was against it. No, it's funny. Stephen A had called me about the CNN shit, and we was talking,
Starting point is 00:32:21 having a conversation about it before we got off the phone. And I'm like, I'm definitely not getting into our conversation or nothing, but he was kind of upset about the Draymond situation because he's considered Draymond a friend. That's his guy, so on and so forth. And that's the end of what I'll talk about with that. But, you know, it's more the fact that they got each other's number.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You know what I'm saying so I don't know when it comes to this cause Draymond talk about niggas too he got a podcast
Starting point is 00:32:53 you know what I'm saying and he gives his opinion and I think that's when lines get blurred and lack of communication destroys the nation is the slogan
Starting point is 00:33:01 to where when you see something on TV or on the net or so forth and so on, and some of us might take it as, okay, that's what type of time you on? But instead of calling and be like, yo, what did you mean by that?
Starting point is 00:33:19 And I probably am one of them niggas too. And they'll be like, I'm not calling that nigga. And I shouldn't be like that. I should call and then if he tells me something like that, I'm like, okay, this is the type of time we about to be on.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But I think a lot of us see shit and instead of calling each other directly, we don't. Same thing like, like we had Bill Haney up here yesterday. And when I see him and Floyd on live going back and forth, when the end of the live, Floyd was like, yeah. You got my number.
Starting point is 00:33:53 You got my number. Now call me. And I'm like, that's what, to me, unless y'all want to entertain people and market and promote or troll or whatever it may be, that should have been the initial thing, call each other. Now, they may not be cool like that. But from what I'm understanding, from Draymond's point of view and Stephen A.'s point of view,
Starting point is 00:34:12 and it seems sincere on both sides, that y'all genuinely fuck with each other. But one or two things happen to where it be like ruin a great relationship because of one or two statements. And I think that y'all should call each other instead of not fucking with each other. It's like, to me, when Draymond, and I don't know him that well to speak on his personality
Starting point is 00:34:39 or anything, just from what we've seen, but it's like, there's, you know, I don't want to state my source, but it was a party out here in Vegas, actually, and Draymond is talking to one of Kevin Durant's friends or associates
Starting point is 00:34:56 or whatever you may be, and when Kevin walks over, Durant, that is, Draymond walks over, like, I ain't fucking with niggas, and nigga, Kevin Durant, man, is like, how walks over, like, I ain't fucking with niggas. And nigga, Kevin Durant, man, is like,
Starting point is 00:35:07 how you sitting here talking to me for 10 minutes and don't fuck with him? But you think you can fuck with me? He's like, that don't even make no sense. And they like, is this real?
Starting point is 00:35:16 We don't even, I thought this was on the, some on the court shit with Draymond. This is what the source was saying. He's like, I don't even make no sense.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I can't fuck with you and you don't fuck with Kevin. But obviously Draymond feels a way with certain people. And I think that athletes or analysts and so on may say, okay, this is a basketball situation. But if I see you out somewhere else, we're cool. Or this is a TV situation. We should be able to talk. And I think it's blurred lines when it comes to certain relationships with Draymond Green, just solely off the conversations
Starting point is 00:35:50 that I had with the people that know him. Yeah. This seems to be an ongoing issue because oftentimes a lot of people are upset that they didn't get a call. And that call actually is a part of journalism. Whenever there's a story that breaks, you always hear this in the news. They say, we reached out to his team and we didn't get a response. So we did get a response. And that's how you're supposed to do the due diligence before you tell a story, that we reached out to his people and they didn't get back to us. So we're going with this story. And then before we move on,
Starting point is 00:36:31 I think this also goes into a little bit of a deeper discussion, because even when you were on CNN cam, there is like tweet that was circulating around and it said something journalists should take away from this is you have to build relationships with people and communities outside of the moments you need a quote about some bad stuff. So just in general, do you guys feel like journalists have lost proper relationships with athletes and talent, or do you guys feel like it's always been that way? What is you guys' perspective on that? Well, first of all, like before I answer that, I had the biggest moment in CNN history. There's never been a bigger moment on CNN.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I killed it. It's me and James Brown. I don't know if you've ever seen James Brown on CNN. Me and James Brown is tied for the best moment ever on CNN. That's first and foremost. the best moment ever on CNN. That's first and foremost. But I think because of the answer to your question,
Starting point is 00:37:27 it's like, I believe that because of technology, people feel that they don't have to always talk to journalists no more or have to wait to have an interview.
Starting point is 00:37:39 You know, it's so dope. I think it's dope to be honest with you because imagine somebody says something about you in 93 you gotta wait to get to the outlet
Starting point is 00:37:48 to get to this person who you give you an interview you can't really get you try to get to the radio station you gotta get where can you get
Starting point is 00:37:55 a voice at to where you can get your opinion across now I think that niggas is like I ain't talking to niggas I'm going live
Starting point is 00:38:02 I ain't gotta holler at niggas man I'ma put this on my gram I'ma put this on my Facebook on my Twitter is like, I ain't talking to niggas. I'm going live. I ain't got to holler at niggas, man. I'm going to put this on my gram. I'm going to put this on my Facebook, on my Twitter, on my TikTok. I ain't got to. Man, listen, that nigga said this. I'm saying this in real time.
Starting point is 00:38:13 He said it 10 minutes ago. I'm telling you right now, that nigga lying. You ain't got to wait for no interview. You ain't got to wait for nobody to combat with somebody sent on television or a blog or interview on the radio
Starting point is 00:38:24 or so on and so forth. So I think that's where the gap is to where journalists are losing their power or not just journalists, analysts and people who interview whoever
Starting point is 00:38:36 because you ain't got to wait no more. Niggas is answering that shit in real time. Same way we just talking about with Jalen Brown. I don't know the turnaround time, but when Stephen A said what he said, he probably went on his gram, state your source. It could have been five minutes after he said it. You don't have to wait. You put that shit
Starting point is 00:38:53 on Twitter. Now what happens is the sports centers, the Fox 5 shows, the CBS show, they start putting up the tweets. On the next show the next hour Stephen A. Smith Stephen A. Smith said this and Jalen Browns tweeted this tweeted this so now his tweet is combating what we said and that just travels on to the next show
Starting point is 00:39:15 or platform blog whatever so you don't have to wait for people anymore and that's actually good because it gives a person a chance to not to not have a narrative go further than they wanted to go.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah, I totally agree. OK, so we're going to go to break when we return. We will discuss an update on Mike Tyson. Don't go anywhere. Pink horsepower. She called this thing about toxic. What's happening, baby? Baby, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:39:46 Why you walk in like that? That's how I walk. And then like you come on breathing on me like that. I fucking breathe to live. And like you used to be dark skinned and now you act like hella light skinned. You fucking blind? I'm dark skinned. What the fuck? And then like look at your beard.
Starting point is 00:40:02 The fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe in, all of that. Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink Horse Power. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No! PHP. It works every time. Wait, where are you going? Welcome back. Now let's get into our Underdog Fantasy picks of the day.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Tonight, the Timberwolves will play the Mavs. Underdog fantasy has Luka at 30 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower mace? Higher. Higher. Hey, Anthony Edwards is at 26 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower cam? Higher.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Higher. Hey, and Kat is at eight rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower mace hi low hey download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too so mike tyson reportedly suffered a medical emergency while getting on a plane the other night does this worry you ahead of his fight with Jake Paul? I hope Mike as well, but I definitely hope Mike as well. This is New York.
Starting point is 00:41:54 This is Brooklyn. But it sounds like Mike trying to get a way out. I don't know. That's what it sounds like, an escape clause. I know he shouldn't need one, but if they took him off this plane, we want to make sure he's well. But that's what it, are we having a fight or not? Is the fight still on or no?
Starting point is 00:42:17 As of right now. I didn't want to say that. It hurt me to pause to even say that. But that's what it sound like. If I first heard this and I didn't see him get on a stretcher or anything like that, I'm thinking, I want Mike Tyson well above anything. But if I just heard this, I'm thinking, oh, niggas don't want to fight. It's just what I think. And I know that sounds crazy, but that's probably what it is.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Or maybe they're amping up the fight even more. But before this, I had Mike winning the fight. Now I don't know. I don't know. Killer, where you stand on this? Who you think? Killer. No. Killer, where you stand on this? Who you think Killer is? He'll murder you wild.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I don't know what to say, man. Niggas want Mike well, man. Yeah, look, let's say it's some ulcer shit. That's what they talking about. Some shit with an ulcer aggravation, but he was dizzy. I don't know how ulcers make you dizzy, but shit sounds messy from all the stuff that I was researching on earlier. Yeah, it's an ulcer flare-up. The nigga sent called me by just earlier,
Starting point is 00:43:43 because he's like, so you're definitely going with Jake Paul now I said what is wrong with you why are you calling me about this because I'm going to tell you this murder
Starting point is 00:43:52 they offered us to walk out with Mike Tyson during the fight possibly I didn't want to put this out there and I was like
Starting point is 00:44:06 I don't know if I want to do that not before this is before this is before this is before this incident and I'm like I'm not sure if I want to do that
Starting point is 00:44:20 and now I'm probably not going to do it because we're talking about it I was talking about it I was like that's why I was sitting and taking so long to answer I'm like should I even bring this now I'm probably not going to do it because we're talking about it. I was talking about it. I was like, that's why I was sitting here taking so long to answer. I'm like, should I even bring this up? I'm like, fuck it. Because I don't want niggas blaming me for nothing when niggas don't win. Like, say when Devin lost, niggas say, why he wearing Balenciaga sneakers and all this other shorts? Who walked Devin out? I don't remember, but I'm just saying, I'm talking about De was blaming shit on his sneakers
Starting point is 00:44:46 when he was fighting Ryan. Yeah. He had the essential shorts on. Fear God and all that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was like, yo, if we walk Mike out and Mike don't win, I was like, Mike.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah, murder jinx. Yeah, niggas is kid, niggas. Mike fucking with them niggas be like, Mike. Yeah, murder jinx. Murder, yeah, niggas. Mike fucking with them niggas. I was like, I don't really know if I need that type of pressure if shit don't go right. So I was talking to niggas about that today, and I was like, yo, look, I'm going to be honest with you because niggas call me Cam. What's an ulcer flare?
Starting point is 00:45:21 Your stomach be fucking with you sometimes. I said, I don't fucking know. I ain't got every stomach problem in the world, nigga. This is sin, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:29 He said, I said, he said, so what you think? I said, I'm on the same type of time murder just so. I said,
Starting point is 00:45:36 yeah, man, I don't, I don't know. I said, what you better hope is this. I'm be honest with you. Let's hope that's what it is
Starting point is 00:45:44 and that's not what they're saying. Because it could be something else. Look, Mike lived a wild life. Okay, and he don't live the life that he used to. He don't live the life he used to. Bro, we don't know where he
Starting point is 00:45:59 doing his off time. Could you stop acting because you want to assume what Mike Tyson doing his off time, he doing his off time. Could you start acting because you want to assume what Mike Tyson doing his off time, he doing his off time. Mike Tyson asked Boosie for no reason he might be gay because
Starting point is 00:46:13 of whatever Boosie said. Let me be honest with you. Mike, my nigga. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, Mike, my nigga. I've not seen that episode. Boosie had a lot of self-control.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yeah, yeah. Boosie said, I'm straight as an arrow, man. You know, after that episode, I said, I don't know what's going on in the show if I could go. Mike, my man. I was just like, Mike is kind. I thought we'd calm you down. Mike is still the type of aggressive.
Starting point is 00:46:37 He had Lil Nas X on his show. Lil Nas X was like, you don't even know what I do. He said, man, you're the cowboy guy who be naked and all that, man. Why you think you up here? Don't be asking me why I don't know what you do. You think I'm stupid? I'm like, Mike is mad aggressive and smoking weed. I'm like an angry weed smoker as well. But I want Mike to win. I hope he wins. I hope it's really an awesome situation. I would say, if you're not feeling right, Mike,
Starting point is 00:47:08 don't fight because if the fight comes, pause, and you don't do, perform well, and then you try to use this excuse, nobody going to hear that. Yeah, we're not going for that. Nobody want to hear that.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Who you think is going to win, though, Killer? Before this, we know what we was thinking, but right now, things can change. I'm going to be honest. Before this, I don't know because,, but right now, things can change. I'm going to be honest. Before this, I don't know because,
Starting point is 00:47:26 even before this situation, because, look, we wasn't speaking murder, but I was trying to fight Bernard Hopkins. This is before... That's it. This is before the celebrity box and shit and everything. I was in wild shape during this time. This is about 013.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I did a diss record towards Bernard. It's called Humphrey. His middle name is Humphrey. Yeah. You could Google it, anybody out there. Where did this come from? Where this came from was this. I was in super good shape.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I was going somewhere. Bernard Hopkins had a fight. I believe it was in D.C. if I'm not mistaken. I was driving somewhere and they was like, Bernard fighting. We was like, fuck it, let's go. It was mad tickets, and I went to the fight, and the shit was so empty.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It was, the arena was empty. Like, everybody just walked down to the front, and I'm like, damn, man, Bernard shouldn't be going like this, because Bernard, this is towards the end of his career. I'm like, damn, Bernard ain't selling no tickets, man. Like, God damn, man. I'm like, I Bernard ain't selling no tickets man, like god damn man. I'm like I could fight Bernard, we could sell that shit out. This is now everybody doing it,
Starting point is 00:48:31 Le'Veon, Bell on type of shit. I'm like yo, we'll sell it out but Dame dad's like Cam, please don't do this, don't go forward with this, you're bugging. I'm like nah, I got my strategy B, I'm gonna jab, I'm gonna stay on the outside. Dame was like, Dame know Bernard, I got my strategy, B. I'm going to jab. I'm going to stay on the outside. Dame was like, Dame know Bernard. I don't really know, have a relationship with Bernard, but Bernard Hopkins was in State Property, the movie. So Dame was like, Kim, he's a wild nigga. I'm like, Dame, I know wild niggas.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I'm a wild nigga. I'm a wild nigga. So I said, I was going publicly saying, Bernard, I don't want to fight you. He tweeted, I accept. So it was taking too long. And then I did the diss record. If anybody wanted to look, it's called Humphrey. That's Bernard Hopkins' middle name. If people don't know that, I named it Humphrey because people don't know that.
Starting point is 00:49:22 But it never happened. But my strategy was to go stay on the outside and jab. And if I could stay on the outside and have better stamina more than him, that I'm not saying that would happen. He know how to cut the ring off. I was willing to take the chance because what happened next fight, he fought a construction worker and the knock them out the ring and all this. I'm like... I can do that. This is what I was trying to tell niggas. Nigga had a job. He had to go to work the next day after the fight.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I'm like, niggas fucked up everything. You fight this white nigga, no disrespect to white people. I'm like, we could have sold this shit out and made the real chicken. Smoking weed, hot boxing, name of the show, hot boxing. I don't know, man. Might get through that.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Might get through that jab with all this. I'm telling you. Niggas playing with Mike. All he gotta to do is hit you. Yo. He had Mitch Green thinking his Gucci
Starting point is 00:50:34 was Louis Vuitton, yo. If he get through that jab, it's over. That's what I'm saying. Mitch Green was on dust. That's what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Mitch Green, we saw Mitch Green wild dust. Yeah. Now, Mike going to come in and dust it. That's that, man. But that's how I feel about it.
Starting point is 00:50:53 So, real quick, at this point in your life, would you do a fight? No. I would if I get back in shape. Like, the thing about, I'm going to be honest with you, right?
Starting point is 00:51:08 I was like, I'm going to work out two times a day, nigga. Swim, all that. I haven't been doing that lately because, and Stat, this isn't really for you to hear, but I'm just saying I've really stayed in shape most of my life. And I'm not saying I'm not in shape now. I'm just not in the shape I would be to have a fight. Like I said, Stat, this isn't for you to hear, but I still be busting bitches asses, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:31 Long stroke. They love it. I'm like, I ain't out to stay in shape all these years. You bitches got long stroke. Baby boy squats Baby That's why my stomach Was fucked up for a minute
Starting point is 00:51:50 They like Yo You can't You can't be doing What you wanna You can't be doing What you wanna do no more You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah so I kinda I kinda took off From working out The way I used to work out I'm like You know Cause when you're younger, you just, you're going crazy now. I still go crazy when I need to, but I'm like, I ain't about to do that all these years.
Starting point is 00:52:14 These bitches still, still driving these bitches crazy in their 20s, early 30s. I'm like, they're going to think that's God, though. God work. I'm like, they're going to think that's God, though. God work. So it's not right now. I'm not in shape to play the answer to the question, man. I would, but I would have to get it. It would take me a year to get all the smoke and shit out of my system.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Okay. Then Mesa, I might as well ask you, was there ever a point in your life where you were wanting to do a fight? Okay. Okay. Hard to hear first. Okay. I'm a maverick.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Duh. Okay. And then last question before we wrap so in reflection former player and coach avery johnson said i'll never forget my wife was a registered nurse in the early 1990s i was cut i didn't have a job and she was paying all the bills and she was taking great care of me at my workouts going. But I didn't have an NBA team. So she carried him financially. What do you guys think of him sharing that situation? And do you guys feel like that type of support still exists in this day and age? That don't exist today. Whenever he got that, he paused.
Starting point is 00:53:43 He got the last of it, probably. I don't think that exists. He's talking about a black woman or? Pretty sure she's a black woman. Oh, yes. They don't got that. Did the girls come in? My man.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Did they come in no don't worry about it it's all good sorry about that Mason I didn't mean that I didn't mean that to rub it okay yeah I don't think
Starting point is 00:54:14 that kind of woman exists no more at least not in bulk you know there's some anomalies here and there but
Starting point is 00:54:23 well are we talking a black woman yeah she's black oh yeah yeah that's definitely there's some anomalies here and there, but, um, well, are we talking a black woman or? Yeah, she's black. Oh, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:28 that's definitely anomaly, you know? Um, would you think so? I feel like black women are like, very supportive.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I pay all the bills. If, I mean, if he doesn't have a job, like, somebody gotta live. Somebody gotta support. I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I know a lot of people want, want, want, but I feel like black women are very supportive. This is for y'all to decide. Avery must have had the pink horsepower, the killer. Ice King, King took some shit legit, man. Ice King, shit legit, shit. Yeah, so niggas, I'm not just a CEO, I'm a client.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Shit legit, man. MC Hammer too legit to quit. The answer to the question, the answer to Stats' question, though, realistically, is that black women, to me, are supportive. And not just black women.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I say women in general. But it's a time limit on it. It's like, yeah, all right, it's been two months now. We're going to start looking for jobs. Or,
Starting point is 00:55:42 you know, you'll sit there and be like, yo, it's been a year. The music shit is not going to work for you what are we going to do until the music come out I remember I won't say who I won't get into detail
Starting point is 00:55:58 but this is when I was on the verge or trying to be a professional musician or rapper however you want to say it. I'm not going to say who, but the girl was like, Kim, you're not as good as you think you are. You should go back to school. Yo.
Starting point is 00:56:16 That's wild. That's wild disrespect. Yo, fam, niggas say, niggas say, yo. I know who said that. She's wild. Wild disrespect. Niggas say, yo, yo. I know who said that. She's wild. Wild disrespect. Yo, Kim, you're not as good as you think you are.
Starting point is 00:56:33 You probably should go back to school. I'm like, really? Damn. So I can't take a minute to figure my dream out. You know what I'm saying? And she was basically, to be honest with you, she was taking care of me at the time.
Starting point is 00:56:49 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then, you know, the tables turned. Yeah. Them tables, one thing about them.
Starting point is 00:56:59 You know what I'm saying? And, eventually, I started taking care of her. Yeah. And, you know what I'm saying and eventually I started taking care of her and I was trying to put Mesa stopped rapping at the time and moved on and I was trying to put
Starting point is 00:57:16 a label together and sometime they would have to stay in my crib and cause you know everybody didn't have the best situation I had the best situation. And she was like, now, mind you, this is my house now. I think it's like,
Starting point is 00:57:33 yo, when this nigga's getting out? I'm like, I'm trying to work on something. She's like, yo, look, they're not as good as you think they are. You think they are. You think they are. I said, yo, my nigga. He went around this joint, man. But okay, whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:57 The point being is, I know I veered off of tomorrow's story, but I think that's with anybody, that you're going to have a time limit to say, you can't sit around all day and not do nothing. And I know we have dreams and aspirations and so on and so forth, but the bills come every month and I'm paying these shits by myself. What are you going to do? Unless you have that conversation with the woman when she tells you, you know, and I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And Mace, you could tell me when the last time you heard a female was that too. You know what? Take five years to figure it out. I got you. I know it may take a few years to get off the ground. Don't even worry about it. I got you for five. Would you tell a nigga that, Stat?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah. Five years. Five years is wild. to get off the ground, don't even worry about it. I got you for five. Would you tell a nigga that stat? Yeah. Five years. Five years is wild. How long a nigga got with you to figure it out that you really, really, really like? To figure it out and I'm taking care of them? Yeah, but you like them though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I mean, I have to see the process. If I feel like the process is moving, okay, I'm going to give you a little bit of time. Time limit specifically, even after a year, it's like if we're still like not making any progress, you're not even funding yourself. And it's like, all right,
Starting point is 00:59:11 we're going to have to figure something out because I can't do this. That's crazy, Steph. I don't think that's crazy at all. Same way in reverse. Like if I'm taking a full year to still like get on my feet, like you got to find,
Starting point is 00:59:24 at the end of the day i'm finna find a way to make some money right i'm expecting the same from you so i think it's the same vice versa if it's two three years still moving along you still nothing like we're gonna have to figure something out because but you just told me some minute ago that you're very supportive i am very supportive that's why i said if I see the process going. But not in my house. No. That's not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I'm very supportive. Especially like if this is my husband, that's a very different situation. Dating, it's like people be How long would you take
Starting point is 00:59:55 to get your husband? My husband? Yeah. My husband, if I'm getting married. You say, we just not growing together.
Starting point is 01:00:03 It would have to be like three years. Three years max. Because it's like we just not growing together it would it would have to be like three three years three years max because it's like I do believe marriage till death do us part I'm riding with you
Starting point is 01:00:12 like I got you this is why till death do you apart yes that's why we got married till death do us part till death do us part
Starting point is 01:00:20 no till death do us part and when I decide to get married that is set in stone till death do us part till death do us part no till death do us part and when I decide to get married that is set in stone that's a more realistic mercy till death do us part
Starting point is 01:00:28 till death do us part yeah that's what I heard that's what it sound like yeah three years that's all when I said
Starting point is 01:00:36 three years of marriage yes dating is like bruh like you gotta support yourself I gotta support myself I can help you
Starting point is 01:00:42 for only so long but don't be trying to take advantage moral of the story is shout out to A.V. Johnson wife man got to support yourself. I got to support myself. I can help you for only so long, but don't be trying to take advantage. Moral of the story is, shout out to Avery Johnson, wife, man. There's not a lot of you left out there.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And this is what I'm talking about. Me and Larry, Larry says this to me all the time, like, not all the time. The last couple weeks, like, Kim, man, like, you don't want a wife,
Starting point is 01:01:00 you don't want to settle down. I'm like, I'm a hot commodity, yo. What do you bring to the table, yo? Like, I can't bring my all this shit I got and you got a jam sport book bag. Like, yo,
Starting point is 01:01:13 what are you bringing to the table? Like, at least I have a job and a car. What if she is the table killer? That's what Steve Harvey said. Steve Harvey said that shit. Look at him, man. He's boning the butler.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Chef. All type of shit, man. That's how she ended up with the pool guy, right? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to hear that table shit. My thing is, I don't need a table. I need a partner.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And then you ain't have to be where I'm at. I was asking a lot to be where I'm at. Have a job. Have a car. Have some ambition. Don't you ain't have to be where I'm at. I was asking a lot to be where I'm at. Have a job. Have a car. Have some ambition. Don't wake up and want to do cocaine. Don't go straight to the liquor cabinet. I don't be knocking bitches ambitions
Starting point is 01:02:00 and they have as long as you are not sloppy, drunk, hot, act crazy, fine. But if you think I'm not watching what you do every day and you think that you're going to be with me and you wake up and drink Don Julio for breakfast. No. If you tell me, yo, Kim, you know, I just stopped doing cocaine, man.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I think, I think it's going to fuck my nose up in the long run. Okay. That's, that's what's up, man. I dig that. Think about having a girlfriend,
Starting point is 01:02:35 not you. We just having fun. Like, you know, you have no ambition. You have no hustle, no drive. You go,
Starting point is 01:02:43 you drink when you wake up, you sniff cocaine, uh, like it's Newport's. Look, I'm not knocking it, but you can't get what I got. That's just that. You can't. You need to bring something to the table for me to share what I got. Yo, you ain't got no car.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Yo, Cam, I could drive the Maserati to the store? No, I've never seen you drive. Damn, it's just been sitting there two months. I like looking at it. You can't, I'm not sharing nothing with nobody. Then you know what it'd be for me, murder too? I'll be offering people money to start their own business And they don't even want to do that. They only want to do the due diligence
Starting point is 01:03:27 to try and figure out how to start your own business and so on and so forth. Very few ambitious females that I run into. I just think I attract crazy. And I like having fun, but as far as settling down, I can't do it. So shout out to A.V. Johnson's wife. That's basically,
Starting point is 01:03:47 we need more of you out there, man. It's scarce. I can't even argue with that. And even in addition to that, a lot of people are all talk. Like, I can respect somebody who is, you know, trying out their passions, doing their best to get there. I don't job shame, but, like, you got to get somewhere. You got to try. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:05 for sure. Deep. What? That, that we really, that there's no women like that. Anomalies. I mean.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Have you ever run into, I mean, I know you're married now, I'm talking about, have you ever ran into a situation growing up? Cause I know you, see the thing about it, but you Mace is differently.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And, and I know you're a different guy, but you... When you were first turned professional rapper, musician, you had a lot of people, and I'm not saying you was with them or anything, but you were meeting people who were at the same level you were at. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So did you feel that way coming up to where you was like,
Starting point is 01:04:46 you got to have the same thing as me or you'd be like, long as you hold me down and make sure that I'm good, I'm not mad at sharing what I got with you. He's thinking, kill his race.
Starting point is 01:05:13 That was a giant question. I mean to me I really in my lifetime I think I think I only met like three girls that was similar to like what Avery said
Starting point is 01:05:23 two of them I didn't need it. One of them, I did. And I don't think there's a lot of people like that. I think that's probably what made me get married was that I was leaving music and I gave everything I had away. So she didn't have no reason to be with me unless, because I was like,
Starting point is 01:05:44 yo, if you take everything, reason to be with me unless because I was like, yo, if you if you if you take everything, I'll be with you. She got with Mason. Yeah. Yeah. She got with me leaving music, didn't want to do music, vowing to not do music. So I don't know what she was thinking, but it worked out. She liked you. Okay. Well, let us know in the comments what you guys think about the situation.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And let us know if you guys think there's any ambitious women left because I got a couple examples. Yeah. And if you got one, tag killer. Tag of the killer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Looking for.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Bet. Definitely tag me, man. Bet. Well, yeah, tag him down below. But that is all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.

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