IT IS WHAT IT IS - WOULD YOU STAY IN COLLEGE FOR $20 MILLION?! | EP.67

Episode Date: December 14, 2023

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What's up killer. How you doing today, man? Chill it man. Looking at this book I read. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. One and done. One and done. Yeah. Well, hi yo niggas. This is what we do, nigga. We write chapters. We write chapters, man. Shout out to Big Mo, Maurice Cloretta's book.

Make sure y'all go support that. It's called One and Done, man. If y'all been following the show, y'all know he's been a staple every week with college football and all the other advice that he gives us and not to mention just his story period of what he's been through, the trials and tribulations and also the success. So make sure y'all go get the book one and done before we start the show real quick. I got some good news for y'all talking about y'all too.

And I got some bad news. I'm just saying I got good news and I got bad news can you start the bad no we gotta start with the good news that's the one thing you always say

the good news you got bad news the good news is that the Ant-Man's arrived the Anthony Edward sneakers they arrived shout out to Ant-Man

Cecil big shout out to Cecil he just won an award too he's something under agent I don't know the exact title whatever's under an agent that's what he is so congratulations to Cecil

the bad news is they only had your size they only sent one pill to whatever's under an agent, that's what he is. So congratulations to Cecil. The bad news is... They only had your size. They only sent one pair. Yo, I know the whole thing. We went the same size. So they only sent one pair of the new Ant-Man's. And I ain't know if y'all want to flip a quarter for it

or how y'all want to do it. Yeah, you know I knew that, right? I knew it from all of them. I didn't know if y'all wanted to flip a quarter for it. Or how y'all wanted to do it. Yeah, you noticed I knew that, right? I knew when he said some bad news. Listen, man, I don't know what this season for and Ant-Man for, but these are the new Ant-Mans. I'll give you the solo so we can show them. The new Ant-Mans, they're coming out in, I believe, two weeks. They also invited us all to Minnesota.

Yeah. I don't know if it's this Saturday or next Saturday, but we got courtside seats if we want to go to Minnesota. The works, they're going to lay out the pink carpet for us, and it's going to be crazy if we want to go. So thank you so much to Anthony Edwards' agent, my man Cecil, Anthony Edwards. These are the new Ant-Man's.

What I'll do to make it fair is I'll leave them in the studio until everybody's sneakers arrive. So I won't cheat anybody. But big salute. These are the sneakers. Make sure y'all go support Airman. And I told you what to do to sell the sneakers. Nigga.

After the dunk, nigga. Mwah, nigga. So I just want to share that with you guys man yo what's the pink carpet what's the pink carpet oh when I go they roll the pink carpet

out for me I don't do the red carpet nigga when I fuck up nigga yeah they roll the pink carpet out

I'm the wingman so I heard you say the pink carpet so I want to make sure the blue carpet no I want to make sure pink carpet. Which one? The blue carpet? No, I want to make sure they know that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'll tell them what's your color.

I'll make sure they got your color, too. They like the pink carpet when I pop up, man. Well, shout out Ant-Man. And then, of course, today we are joined with our football analyst, Maurice Claret. Mo, what's up, man? Mo is good. How are you? Nah, the season's switched. I'm the basketball expert now. Mo, what's up, man? Mo, what's good? How are you? Nah, the season's switched.

I'm the basketball expert now. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah, you ain't ready, brother. Okay, Mo. Because at the end of the day, Mo, you had a good season. But you, like, you had a good college season Because you kept picking different teams

But Mo kind of won the championship At the end Not necessarily killer now Is Georgia in it? Or Oregon Ducks in it? Michigan is in it That's wild You see there's an M on that hat right?

That's wild bro You see there's an M on that hat, right? That's wild, bro You see there's an M on that helmet, bro That is wild, bro I'm letting you know, we still here Keep these fucking headphones, man Yo, but Mo, you know what I'm saying? I want to tell you thank you, you know, for being here all these weeks 12 weeks in a row

You've been very, very consistent And shout out to you and everybody in Ohio And thanks for Cam For actually, Cam was the one that said very consistent and shout out to you and everybody in Ohio. And thanks for Kim. But actually Kim was the one that said that we should bring Maurice Claret on here. So, you know, giving props.

Yeah. May say we need OJ. I said, we need Maurice. That's how it went. So, so thank you, man.

And make sure y'all go pick his book up. And like I said, you know, we play a lot of games up here, and we have a lot of fun. But thank you so much for everything you've done for the show, man. Yes. Yeah. I'll tell you all the time, thanks for having me.

I tell you like this, I'm being serious. This is probably the coolest and funnest part of my week. Every week I look forward to it, man. And I just enjoy that y'all have me on. Thank you, man. Yeah, well, more. Don't thank me yet. Back to business. False. Mace, you it, man. And I just enjoyed it. Y'all have me on. Thank you. Yeah, well, Mo, don't thank me yet. Back to business. False.

Mace, you out. Bro, you can say Michigan all you want. You can say- Don't thank me yet. Bro, you just be doing sound. What this man say? You ain't got no opinion. Yeah, don't thank me yet.

Don't thank me yet. You hear me? Yeah, don't thank me yet. That man just do sound. He heard you all week. He ain't got no dog in the fight. Him, not Nick. Who? Yeah, don't thank me yet. That man just do sound. He heard you all week. He ain't got no dog in the fight. Him, not Nick. Who?

Him, right there who do potato. I don't know that nigga. Nah, I'm just playing. Nah, everybody heard you all. So let me get this straight, just to be clear. You missing it right now. Oh, man. I'm not you're Michigan right now. Oh, man. I'm not going with nobody right now.

I'm trying to see who qualifies for Titletown. All right, Betts. Say no more. Yeah. So as we're switching gears into college basketball, let's start with the basics. So do you guys feel like the overall interest in college basketball has shifted from the 90s to the 2000s to now?

What do we think? You want to pause? You want the expert to go first or you would like to go? Go ahead. You start. Go ahead. Okay. I mean, since now they have

they got overtime. You have the G League. You have so many various outlets for for players that would be going to college that now is is just seeming like this. There's many other options before you had to go either to the league or to college. you had to go either to the league or to college. And now with these two other options, as well as going overseas, which makes it three, you're now finding players that are not the best players are not all in college. That's the start. And then the second thing is that with the monies that they can get other places, you're not going to have. I think we have seen the best of players being in college for a long time.

We're never going to see that again. I don't think we ever see that again. You want to go, Mo? Yeah. Yeah, no, I'll say the same thing. We're having a different experience to go being overseas. I remember, and somebody, I'm pretty sure somebody in the comments is going to correct me if

i'm wrong but i remember when lavar bought to um yeah he tried to start like paying kids directly after high school and then the nba had basically allowed those same kids to come into their developmental league and i tell you this from being in the college basketball space for like three or four years now a lot of these kids say the same thing. They say, like, if they're in college for more than one year, a lot of the kids feel like they fail. So, you know, some of these kids may jump and go to Europe faster than what they need to, or some kids just end up bouncing around between colleges where they never stay and develop, which basically creates the culture for, you know for the college teams that we probably remember from

the 90s and the 2000s. Hopefully, I said a lot, but hopefully it made sense. That was very good. No, we're not going to see the best college players, the best basketball players in college anymore unless it's for one year.

Mo made a great point. Once you start staying longer than one year, you're looking at being suspect, so to speak. Like, oh, you should, what? Why that nigga there more than one year? You know, it's funny, Mase put it in a round. We have two million songs that Mase won't release, but he put it in one of the rounds.

He said, tell these joints, I'm like Kentucky, I'm one and done. And that's, that's how it is in college. You know, it's just one of them situations where if you stay long, maybe two years, just cause you may want to win a title. But two, after two years, they're starting looking at the next high school player that's going to come in and do one year and leave. And Mace made some great points as well. It's too much other options. Even the G League is offering up to $500,000 to players coming right out of high school. Overseas is an option.

Brandon Jennings, he's one of them people that skipped the whole process when you had to go to school for a year and said, I'm going overseas. Grab $1.4 million, and then came to the NBA after that. People are firing away to the bag, and that's why they created NIL. And as far as the 90s is concerned, it was no NIL. You know, me and Mo talked about it, and it wasn't basketball related, it was football related, how these kids sold their jerseys, bought their mother a Mother's Day gift,

and then they get kicked out of school or suspended. In the 90s, you had to scrape and scrap and figure out how to sneak and get money, and look at Allen Iverson. His junior year, he pulled up in the 600 Benz. They put him under investigation. He said, well, I won't go here. I'm trying to do John Thompson a favor.

I could have got the fuck out of here. This 600 Benz is not going to damn place. Yeah, for real. And a lot of times in the 90s, it was like, I'm not going to say it was like important, but the best players stayed most of the time four years. Grant Hill, four years.

Christian Laettner, four years. I think Jamal Mashburn did three. Chris Webber did two years because he didn't want to be hungry anymore and he knew he could be the first overall pick.

A lot of times, people stayed four years and that didn't decrease your value when it was time to go to the NBA. Now staying four years definitely decreases your value. Yeah. Another thing I'm thinking about when it comes to college basketball is this is the same thing that happened with. I think like when you shouldn't equate these two, but marijuana charges like now that weed is legal.

marijuana charges. Like now that weed is legal, some people that was in jail for a long time, those charges should be changed. Just like if you, if the Michigan Fab Five banner was taken because of kids getting money

and now they're doing NIL deals, they should give Michigan back their banner. That's a great point. Absolutely. And what they'll say is, well, it was illegal then. But you're 100% right. And if you want to be technical, people who went to jail for weed skipped the line to get a weed license now because they felt that they did them wrong.

If you go to jail for, if they went to jail for weed now that weed is legal. And I know we're comparing weed to college and so on and so forth. But a lot of this stuff is comparable. But as far as now in the 90s, it was no big deal to stay for four years. In fact, a lot of the best players stayed for four years. It wasn't until Kevin Garnett shot to the big ticket. He was the first one that actually didn't go to college from my generation that I remember.

Yeah. And went straight to the NBA and then let open the doors for people like Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, a bunch of other people. Yeah, Mara Stoudemire. Right, exactly. For those type of people to get money directly. It's so many different variables in this question

because now, like for instance, let's go to college football, for instance. And I know we're on basketball today or this particular topic, college basketball. But Mo, let me ask you this, or your opinion on this and you as well, Mace. They're offering, so I'm hearing, they're offering so i'm hearing they're offering marvin harrison jr 20 to 25 million

dollars to stay in college and not go pro and that's what he was making three years in a pro as opposed to making that one year in college did you hear about this story uh do you have any details on it and what would you do if you were him yeah i heard about it going around town and um i don't know if they'll have 20 to 25 million for them it's reasonable to say that they'll have five for them and it's um it's what it comes down to is that these collectives basically go out and raise money, and they see that he's a large part of basically the revenue that he could be bringing in next year. You have to figure the quarterback at the school, Kyle McCourt,

as soon as he lost to Michigan, he basically ran out of town. So I can see the collectives coming with maybe $4 or $5 million. You know, he had got $1 million from Rock for like three or four tweets over energy drinks. So I could see these guys helping to corral different brands around him where he'll get, you know, four or five, six, seven million, something like that. I don't know if it's 20, 25 million. I don't know if that's correct. That may have been somebody just put propaganda out there to drive value.

But, you know, even if I was getting five million, would I stay in college? I mean, it's basically it'd be hard to say no you know uh at wide receiver you don't get beat up like running back and if he left this year he'll be a top three pick or top five pick and if he leaves next year he'll be a top five but i will say this right i watched him at the um the heisman award ceremony obviously we were all wrong because jayden daniels won but when I looked at him and I seen his father and I seen the two little brothers during the acceptance speech, I was saying to myself, man, that's where I want my son to be because he's playing football for the love of the game and just to pursue excellence. He ain't really going out here to play for money like he'll make him.

He'll make a whole lot of money. And it's like very commendable to what Marvin Harrison Sr. had done and a mother had done to like kind of raise him. But I was like, man, if my kids play sports, I got two little boys. I really want them playing from that perspective, playing for the love of the game and not really for the money per se. And not that the money is wrong, but like you can just, you know, people want to change the generations of people up under them. And Marvin Harrison Sr. changed the generation of people up under him.

And I don't know. I was admiring that about dude. So you would stay? I would stay. Money's no motivation. Like with him, he's not playing for money. His dad is a Hall of Famer. You know, he played for a ton of years in the NFL.

So, you know, rather he go get 20, dude. He's financially stable. Yeah. 100%. I would stay, too, if I didn't have to go to class. I wouldn't stay to go to class. I like that. Yeah, I'm being honest.

Yeah, I mean, listen, you know what's funny is that that was my whole philosophy during high school. All I got to do is pass four classes in gym, and I don't have to go to gym because I'm on the team. So I don't have to go to physical therapy. So we got a home room we know we definitely pass. Spanish class we pass it because Ms. Rubber was super easy. I like math,

so I'd always love math. Yeah. Social studies, no way. American history, I already knew that. Beat the shit out of us girls.

I already knew American history. Nobody wanted to go to Mr. Swagger class. That shit was paused before pause was invented. I'm trying to remember my fourth class. I like that murder.

They'll figure, what? English? What, Mr. Swagger? Oh, that was your... No, Mrs. Rogers. Mrs. Rogers. Mrs. Rogers. I hated that class.

Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to remember what my fourth class was. It might have been English. I don't know. Yeah, it was Mrs. Rogers. It didn't have to be the basics. Home room ain't the basics, but it counted. Yeah.

Our home room class was ridiculous. I don't even know why they had this home room class. This was like the wildest home room class I've seen in my life. But yeah, I like that murder. But I've seen in my life. But yeah, I like that murder. But I would say the moral of the story is that's why I asked more

because them numbers was circulating around. I'm like, that is a lot of money just to throw to a kid. But we was- And I'm not against education, but if you paying me

to come back, like, I have to negotiate that I'm not- I am against certain education. I definitely am. I definitely think certain education is just a waste of time. Now, do you need to know how to count and read and write and those particular things?

Absolutely. You absolutely have to have a basic high school education, so to speak. And if you're going to college and you know what you want to do when you get to college, absolutely. Look, we would have never found Stat if she wasn't in college. So at the end of the day, I don't want, you know, I say fuck college a lot because people don't know what they want to do when they go to college. They're just like, I'm going to college. What's your minor? I don't know. What's your major?

I don't know. I'm just in college. I'm going to a football game this week. They don't know what's your major I don't know I'm just in college I'm going to a football game this week they don't know what the fuck they want to do they spending

over a half million dollars yeah cause their parents could afford it X, Y, Z but they have no idea what they want to do in life they're just going

to college to say they went to college so if you're going to college I don't want you to get the wrong idea and say I'm not supportive

but if you know what you want to do and you need a degree to do that in life moving forward, I support it. Look, I got, I won't say who. I have a family member with six degrees. Call me every three weeks for money. I got a GED. Every six damn weeks. Yeah, man.

Yo, man. You know, you think you can help me out don't why don't you that shit that degree don't work no more that shit run out like yo

why do you keep calling me what does it got an expiration date on your fucking degree what are you doing with the degree that you went you got a

you got a you got a master's you got a bachelor's you got an associate you got a so so so so so this degree, that degree. God damn, man. I got GED. You know who I used to get a kick out of?

Hiring niggas with degrees. Yeah, no, not stat. Not stat. No, you deserve it. I'm not talking about stat. I used to get a kick out of hiring niggas with music degrees. When I was a CEO, I'm still my own CEO,

but when I ran a company day to day, day in, day out, we used to hire people with music degrees because they went to school for four years music to come work for me that never went to school for music. Yeah. And think that you know the business and these people are teaching business. Oh, how many this you get?

How many this you get? You know what? I always hated murder and you can relate teaching business. Oh, how many fists you get? How many of these you get? You know what? I always hate to murder and you can relate when they sit there and tell you, oh, we're going to give you 13 points. I'm like, I can't go to the bank with points. What does that fucking equal? What is 13 points?

What is the money amount? Yeah, yeah. Like I can't talk about landlord. Well, I got 13 points. And I think that a lot of times people just like to say they go into school to say they go to school. to say they're going to school. There's nothing wrong with that, but sometimes you may run into me.

You may run into, what's my nigga who did Apple? You may run into Steve Jobs. You may run into Bill Gates. We all dropouts. You may run into us. You may run into the dropouts that was planning on a future while y'all was sitting there having fun and listening to these people

that probably don't know as much as we know. Sorry. I will just say though, I think colleges be... No, no, no. I wouldn't, and listen, I wouldn't have messed that without college because I went to colleges,

me and Kev, I was talking to Kev in Miami. What we said is we wanted broadcast majors, people who are major in broadcast to come work with us. And that's why I found STAT. So college is beneficial sometimes.

I'm sorry, STAT, but- Yeah, you're good. I just, because I went to college, like I have to give my piece. Absolutely, absolutely. I'm sorry. I just think that if it's not for you, that's okay. I think, I just, because I went to call it like I have to give my piece. I just think that if it's not for you, that's okay. I think college is the opportunity to find your own lane. Cause

I mean, originally when I was applying for schools, I thought I was going to be an engineer. I would have been, you know, doing engineering, probably not in on camera. And I kind of found out what I like to do through college and through experiences. That's also when I got to kind of travel more and see more of the world, which opened my eyes up rather than me not having the opportunity. But I also don't feel like you have to go to college if that's not for you. Because people think if you go to college,

you think, oh, you think you have to get a degree. I'm not saying that because it's not the right lane for everybody. That's what you figure out over time. But that was my experience. But not everybody else has great experiences. And I understand that. And listen, me and Mace went to college.

Let me tell you something about college real quick. And I can't speak to being a student athlete to the level of Maurice Claret. But listen, I got to college and I didn't graduate high school. That's fucked up. That's some fucked up shit. That's what they do for you when you good. When you good,

they'll make sure shit works out. I didn't even go, I didn't even graduate. How the fuck did I get in college? That makes no sense. That's how good I was. They made sure that I got into college.

This is all the shiesty shit that goes on. It was no, it was no reason I should have been in college. Whatsoever. I was in my dorm. Niggas said, congratulations. Hand me my GED.

I said, nah, murder. I'm kidding. I said, nah. I said, GED. I said, nah, I took the test at least. I took the test and I passed. I don't even know if I really passed because niggas

already gave me the shit. So I'm sitting there like this fuck up. Another nigga and Mo, you can speak to this. Dexter Manley,

Washington Redskins and whatever other teams he played for 15 years in the NFL. College graduate. Soon as he retired, he said,

you know I can't read or write, right? What kind of shit is that? That is true, right? What kind of shit is that? No, that is true. Yo, what kind of shit is that? Dexter Manley did 15 years in NFL. He's a college graduate. And then when the shit was all over, he tells everybody, I can't read or write.

Yeah. When you an athlete, they'll make sure shit is good. Mo, speak about that a little bit because I wasn't as good as you was, obviously. No, that's the truth. That's the truth. How does that work? Hey, no, here's the irony, right? Y'all holding a book that say,

one and done. I'm part of the dropouts. Yeah. Yeah. One and done. One and done. One and done one and done one and done one and done one and done

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one and done one and done one and done one and done leave you out there by yourself, right? So I do believe in college. So college is beneficial for the people who know what they want to do, right? For the people who focused and they came with direction, goals, and they're going. But for the mass majority, at the end of the day, college is a business, right? And I'll say that. And so they prey on people having to decide.

Like, you know, it's even crazy to think a person would have to decide what they want to be for the rest of their life at 19. Most people, before they go on to their sophomore year, you don't even have the worldly experience to be like, yo, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. So I think college is predatory in that way. But in regards to the football players, and I talk about it all the time, you know, I didn't get educated until I went to prison. But I talk about not letting the system take advantage of you. And you're joking around sort of like Dexter Manley. It's a story with a lot of people. And even when I'm talking now and, you know, somebody in the studio who know me from back then, who knows me now. And when you live it in that phase and you aren't educated and going through that system and everybody's taking advantage of you,

it's actually sad as to what happens to you, you know, sitting on the other side when you don't become educated and you go through all those years of football, basketball, track, whatever sports you play, and then you come out on the other end an idiot. You know what I'm saying? But that book is about that, you know, how I came into the system. And when I was in the 12th grade, you know, I couldn't pass my ACT.

I took the ACT. I got like a 13 or a 14. Couldn't read real well, couldn't comprehend. And then I had a football coach and he basically allowed me to cheat off the girl next to me and basically took the test for me.

And then I basically got him to school. But after that, you know, when I got to college, it was the same thing, you know, and basically took the test for me. And then I basically got him to school. But after that, when I got to college, it was the same thing, just shuffling me around in classes to keep me eligible. But that's the system. And that's basically what I try to speak up with guys and say, hey man, you just can't allow them to keep on pushing you through the system

because at some point this stuff is gonna be done and you have to live the rest of your life. And if you choose to be an idiot, you know, the joke will ultimately be on you. Great point. Yeah, that's amazing.

Great, great point. Okay. So in football, you have coaches who kind of become the personalities of the program. What do you think is the driving factor for basketball? I don't know. We kind of, we kind of said it a little bit earlier.

You need superstar players. But as I think about it now, you won't get these superstar players unless you have enormous amounts of money. And so I'm not sure, after hearing them two just even talk about it and thinking about it now, I'm not even sure college basketball can recover. I remember you would have, back in the 90s and 2000s, you would have big personalities like Rick Pitino. You would have, what's the gentleman's name from Georgetown?

John Thompson. Yeah. John Thompson. And you would have Mike Krzyzewski. You would have, like, these huge personalities with basketball. But I think to the point now, I think since you don't have these players and some of those coaches have aged out, I'm not sure that you can recapture, I guess, that nostalgia. You know, I don't know. Yeah. And a lot of those coaches are no longer coaching like the people

that people want to play for their whole lives. You know what I'm saying? I think that was another thing that made college basketball so great. It was some people's dream to play for Coach K or for Dean Smith or what's the guy that came after him. He was really good too. But now I don't know if I'm really going crazy about playing for Hubert Davis. I don't know. Y'all guys are great points. Yeah.

Y'all basically said Jim Calhoun yeah Jimmy Tarkanian listen man yeah y'all made y'all points the only thing I'll say is

rest in peace Bob Knight he just passed away a lot of people getting older and passing away but you're right where's the Thurman player of college yeah

you know y'all know Thurman it's the nigga that you wanted to play for. She might, niggas who will hype you up. But, yeah, y'all made great points

on that. So, Maurice, I kind of want to know how you got into the college basketball space and what do you think are the similarities and differences

between the basketball programs and football programs? Yeah, so, I got into it, the first, the first, my first entrance into college basketball. I was downtown Cincinnati here in Ohio and Chris Mack, who was the head coach for Xavier at the time, I was down. I was downtown my daughter. I was taking her to the ice cream shop and he rocked up on me and tapped me on my shoulder and was like, yo, you know, I've seen your ESPN documentary. I liked it. And can you come spend time with my players, talk to them, share

your experiences? Because they had a lot of dudes who was from the hood. And the majority of people who come and talk to me, the majority of it is like, hey, man, he's from the hood. He's been through some adverse situations and he's adjusted. Can you help to relate that to just the young kids? And so I spent time around the Xavier program, excuse me. And then when he went to Louisville, I went down to Louisville and spent some time with him there. But then what broke me sort of into the UConn program, it's a dude out of Queens and he had been in trouble before. And we have a mutual friend through my brother, Coach Kimani Young. You know, he coaches for UConn.

And one day they heard me speaking on a podcast, and then I ended up going up to UConn. But when I got up there, it was Dan Hurley. Obviously, everybody knew who his brother was, Bob Hurley, who coaches out in Arizona State. He was like, yo, man, just go in there and share your experience. And I shared my experience with him and things that he thought that I could do to help him and then after I was done he was like look I don't know what role that we have for you but I just want kids to have contact with you be able to ask you for advice and I want you to come up here on a monthly basis and I was like 2018 or 19

and then from there they also had some young kids who was in trouble so these little kids who end up going first round. And I don't want to share like their personal business, but some of these dudes are just getting in trouble in college and sort of just trying to figure out life. But then also not miss their opportunity. And I sort of like form relationships with these young guys. And that gave me just, you know, a different experience in college basketball. You know, being in a locker room, being in the meetings, sort of understanding how it works. And the similarities is that you have young dudes who come from inner cities who are trying to make it. That's a similar thing. The differences are with college football, you're dealing with 125 dudes.

Basketball, you're dealing with 13. And so with all the basketball guys, I know their names. I know where they're from. I know their parents. I know, like, their personal stories and how they got here. I'm familiar with AAU basketball now, where I was never familiar with it before. It's more of like a personal thing with the basketball players in comparison to all the football. So that's how I basically got into it. I've been around them for about four or five years.

You know, watched them when they was, I don't want to say sorry, but where they weren't good to winning a championship. So I've been around it for, you know, four or five years, you know, watched them when they was, um, I don't want to say sorry, but where they weren't good to, to win a championship. So I've been around it for, you know, four or five years now. That's what's up Mo and congratulations. That's a real good work to do. So are you like, it seemed like you're a chaplain almost. So what is it? An advisor, a counselor?

What is it? Yeah, it's a combination of both. Uh, so there's, there's's a dude his name is mama dude diara he's uh he's from i don't know which borough he is he's from from new york but he does all the player development right and so it's me sitting down with him and helping him to add structure on how he could grow and develop the young dudes inside the program so you know i run a drug and alcohol facility so i I'm used to like just the formal infrastructure of counseling, right? So it's me giving him things that he can do with these young dudes, be it goals and objectives that he can basically

monitor them to grow and mature them and then make sure that they're doing the right thing so they stay on track on the court. And that's what the athletic performance and a personal performance just is like young dudes developing. Then when it comes to the coaches, I just, you know, I can, I can talk to these young kids. Like when I'm there, like I'll talk to the young kids and there's things that they share with me and that they may not necessarily share with the coach because the coach is their authoritative figure who has everything to do with playing time. But they'll talk to me in a way it's like, you know, this is what I'm, this is what I believe the coach thinks of me,

or this is how I'm interpreting what he's saying. And me, I talk so crazy, direct and straight, I can sort of give them feedback where they understand it's not bias. You know what I'm saying? And so, all these little young dudes, Jordan Hawkins, who's down there with the Pelicans, Andre Jackson, who plays with the Bucks.

Like, I know all these young dudes when they was coming up and helping these young dudes just to mature through life. Like, that's kind of like my role. And I enjoy it. So, you know, like the coaching staff just lets me come. They let me be myself and work with these dudes. And I feel like it's like another cool thing that I do. And I feel like it's like another cool thing that I do. And I feel like it's like my circle of life moment, giving back to just young guys in a way that I thought that I wish I would have had the same guidance.

And that's just sort of like me giving back to sports in general. That's really dope. That's really dope. And then taking a look into memory lane, can you name your top three favorite college basketball teams of all time? What are we thinking right now? Did you say teams or players? Teams.

Teams. Oh, this is easy. Yeah. So, so number one for me, and I fell in love with college basketball, the, the 93 Michigan team. And I remember everybody probably loved that same team equally. That was the famous year when Chris Rubber had called a timeout. That's one.

Second one would be, I remember Rip Hamilton. It was like the 98, 99 team when UConn was like really on their roll. And then the third team, I'm a little biased, but it's last year's UConn team when I seen these young dudes win a championship. That's crazy. That's a special memory. My favorite top three,

my favorite three college teams of all time would be the Duke team with Hurley, Grant Hill, both of the Hills, and Leitner and a lot of people. And then my, with Ethan, even Lane was on that team. And my, my other team would be Fab Five, definitely. But my third team is a classic. It's the UNLV team

with Larry Johnson, Stacey. Larry Johnson. Yeah, that was, that was my favorite team of all. I didn't see this team play, but we're just we have to go with UCLA

1972. They never lost a game. Ever. They didn't lose it in as much. Kareem and them Luau Cinder bought me, nigga. Let's get to Luau Cinder. As much as I want to agree with you guys and say UNLV,

because I was a UNLV fan. Larry Johnson, Anderson, Stacy Augman, Greg Anthony. They didn't get the job done that Duke Blue Devils did, so I got to give it to the Duke Blue Devils in 1992. And then I want to say Michigan, but they didn't, they didn't get the job. They didn't get the job done.

So I will go with that Connecticut team with Rip Hamilton and them guys who got the job done. And then my last team, that's three, right? We said three. Yeah. Those would be my three. Okay.

What did you say again? You said, Oh yeah. Yeah. UCLA. I'm going with 1992. We're going 1992. Duke Blue Devils because Michigan couldn't get it done.

And then we can, even if you want to go with the other Duke team, we'll beat UNLV. See, we trying to keep it black. You're doing reverse racism. That's what you're doing. You not going with what? They're black. You're doing reverse racism. That's what you're doing. You are doing the, you're not going with work. You're going black socks and long basketball shorts.

Gambling. Yeah, exactly. So we go, you know, listen, I cried. I was like, me and me, pardon me, me and Mace and a few other of our teammates. And I'm not saying that's the only reason a lot of shit was going on. You know what's crazy? Niggas say, I see a nigga in the comments says, yo, Cam is crazy.

Niggas say, yeah, Cam is crazy. He had a boy in the 90s willingly. 90s willingly. But in our high school team, what I was going to say was that we all wanted the longest shorts. We wore black sneakers and black socks because the Fab Five was doing that.

And we wanted and when them niggas didn't get the job done, it was just disappointing. Because, you know, Duke looked corporate. Duke was like, you know, grant hill that was like he was too light-skinned so he almost was like bobby hurley christian layton um and and look i'm i'm not racist at all but you know when the white people beat you in basketball it hurts It hurts. That shit hurt, man. So when them niggas didn't win,

I was pissed off and the same thing with UNLV. Them niggas lost to the white people, to the white boys. You know, white boys, they bust them niggas ass, man. And that's why I brought them teams up.

I would go with the teams y'all said, but no, they lost to Duke twice. What about the old Bannon brothers? That was a good team. That was a great team. That was a great team. Well, Maurice, thank you for being here. We're going to do players.

What about you? Oh, you want to do, okay. So name your top three college basketball players of all time. Who do we got? My top three players of all time in college. I'm going to go Harold Minor. Ooh. Yeah, Harold Minor was crazy in college.

I'm going Chris Jackson. Ooh. You're bigger than the Fox. You're bigger than the Fox. You're acting crazy, man. Yeah. And last, I'm going with Randolph Childress damn you went

oh you tried to go crazy you tried to pull your knowledge out on niggas Childress was going crazy yeah Wake Forest yeah that one year he was going crazy Wake Forest definitely damn man that was a great

that was a great. That was fucking great, man. God damn, man. Those niggas getting crazy. That was great. I don't even know if I could. Now I want to do my list over. That was great, man. Who you had, though?

I had Lin Bias. Yeah, Lin Bias was great. Lin Bias was good. I knew Alcindor. Definitely. Yeah, you Bias was great. Lin Bias was good. I knew Alcindor. Definitely. Yeah, you know, that nigga went, when they went 32 and all,

you got to give him this props. Lin Bias, I was going Michael Jordan, but I don't want my list. I like jealous. You were in the trenches. You were in the trenches. I hit Bob over there saying, Chris Jackson, y'all know him as Zach Moo, but yeah, you were in the trenches. Rand hear Bob over there saying, Chris Jackson, y'all know him as Agmul.

But, yeah, you in the trenches. Randall Childress was crazy. Yeah, that was crazy. I want to go Keith Smart and all that. I want to go that route, man. You got to find a player now. Yeah, man. My shit was commercial. Childress was crazy.

Yeah. My shit was too commercial. I like where you went. And then, Maurice, you got to name your top three players. Yeah. So my first one is, I remember Jason Williams in college. Yeah. When is that dude?

J. Will. Yes, sir. J. Will. Yeah. Yeah, that was when I was coming up. Kenyon Martin when he was down in Cincinnati. Yeah. Yeah. And then. Iyon Martin, when he was down in Cincinnati. Yeah. Yeah.

And then. Unlike you, Kevin, Ohio. Unlike you, Kevin, Ohio. Kenyon Martin. But, Dan, you remember these two was dominant. I couldn't pick one, but it was Vince Carter and Rasheed Wallace when they played on the UNC team. Very true.

How you from Ohio? You didn't say Jim Jackson, yo. Jim Jackson, baby. Columbus. Come on, man. Come on, man. It all comes... Scooty Penn is my era. Yeah, Scooty Penn.

Shout out to Scooty. Scooty be on my page. Big shout out to Scooty Penn, man. Yeah. Yeah, he show a lot of love on the page. Scooty is my man. Yeah. Yeah, so Scooty more my generation.

Jim Jackson a little older than me. Ah. All right. Well, Maurice, thank you for being here. We appreciate you, Mo. We'll see you next week. We're going to get to that record portion next week, too. Okay. Appreciate you.

We're going to go to break, and then when we return, we will talk about Draymond Green's suspension. She called this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe

She tired of hearing, I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about Welcome back. So let's get into our Underdog Fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Warriors will play the Clippers. Underdog Fantasy has Steph Curry at 27 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Stephen Curry, of course, higher.

Higher. Okay. Klay Thompson is at two assists. Do you have him higher or lower? They just playing Klay Knight. Underdog. Don't got no respect for Klay. Yo, Nick.

Yo, Nick. Y'all wildin'. Y'all wildin'. Y'all disrespecting Klay Thompson. Listen, I'm just going with the numbers. Yo, you know what? For that to even be up there, I'm going lower. Yeah.

Lower? Lower. Lower? Okay. And Kawhi Leonard is at six and a half rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Kawhi? Yeah. Six rebounds, higher. I, Mace? Kawhi? Yeah.

Six rebounds higher. I'm going to go higher as well. Okay. Make sure to download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. The NBA has suspended Draymond Green indefinitely after a slap to Sun Center Nurkic the other night. Management is now discussing counseling help.

Does this decision make sense? I ain't even here. I ain't no counseling. You know, that's when niggas don't want to break up with their girl. They be like, yo, I go to counseling. I've never seen a nigga go to counseling. I went to counseling. Did I go to counseling?

You ain't go to no counseling. Nah, I think I threatened it. You went to counseling? See, when niggas don't want to break up, no niggas go to counseling. Nah, I think I threatened it. You went to counseling? See, when niggas don't want to break out, no niggas go to counseling. They try and figure it out. But look at his face. Dead serious face.

I think I... Did you cry in counseling is the question. You... You... You say... Did you cry though? You sound like you have a counseling fact right now. Nigga's rubbing his ass and all that. Nigga's telling you I'm saying. So obviously this wasn't your idea.

No. Okay. It's never a guy's idea. Most times. Right now, Sugar Duggar's saying he'll go to counseling. When Sugar come here, Sugar Duggar's saying he'll go to counseling because when Sugar come here, Sugar be back tomorrow. We got to ask him. Sugar

tells the whole story. We got to get Sugar 's opinion why he wants to go to counseling to get his girlfriend back. You're going to get the bill. Yeah, I mean, listen. You're going to get the bill. You know what's crazy? I got a friend of mine that's here right now in town and they Yeah, I mean, listen. Let me get the bill. You know what's crazy? Why don't we pay $1,800? You know what's crazy?

I got a friend of mine that's here right now in town, and they call and talk my head off all the time, and I tell them this shit costs. Consultation costs. Like, when you help people out with problems for hours and hours and hours, this is why they get paid the big bucks. Murda, I think you, have you received money for consultation before? Yes.

You already know what you're about. My doctor fee is actually $800 an hour. $800 an hour? Yeah. For crisis counsel. I could imagine. Yeah.

You got a degree or you just an expert? I got a degree. Oh, I get it. Because I don't think, look, I'll talk to y'all and I ain't got no degree. I'm going to tell you shit that you probably don't want to hear. But it's going to be a fact. Look, God bless the dead.

Jerry Springer beat judges. All these niggas just get up there, no judge license or nothing. Jerry Springer wasn't an attorney, but I could do that shit. I could give you advice if you want to take it or don't leave it. Cool. I'm going to let Murda manage me and see how much I should charge y'all niggas

for the advice that I give all the time. Like you was doing it on TV and you was actually doing it right. Yeah, thank you, brother. I appreciate it. Yeah, you was.

But my thing is... You haven't even went to school for it. The thing about it is this. I know you, man, went to school for it, but we from the same block. In what school you went to?

We from the same block. Nigga, I feel like he don't know you. Nigga, you actually went, nigga, we from Harlem in the 80s. Nigga, what are you talking about? Nigga got a degree now.

You act like we ain't from the same block. We ain't from the same block. That's how niggas be, too. Exactly. But back to Draymond Green, look, I think that's the right thing to say. If it's the right thing to say, then absolutely.

Is that going to change the fact? No. Because the problem is this. I think he heard about niggas saying that he was a part of the Detroit. The 81. Don't compare him to the 2002. Now he's putting his foot on the gas about it.

That's what I really think. The problem, this is, whatever the suspension may be, they say indefinitely because I believe they're thinking on a game amount and they don't want him to get judged for the next game. But whatever the suspension amount be, could't want him to get judged for the next game. But whatever the suspension amount be could be career threatening to Draymond Green. And the reason I say career threatening not because of the suspension

because of the way he plays. He may want to dumb it down. He may not want to be a physical. He'd be like, oh, I don't even want to go for a rebound because they're going to find me at XYZ. So he may need to change his game around to where if he has a hard foul, he may be indicted.

Anything he does is on the microscope. Now, the thing about Draymond, and Draymond, you my nigga, you know you my nigga. I always get tickled, paused, on how you think you play it all like it's a basketball play. You step on niggas,

you slap the child niggas, you choke the shit out of niggas, paused, and you be like, it's all basketball play. You step on niggas, you slap the shout niggas, you choke the shit out of niggas' paws and you be like, it's all basketball related. You know we can see you, right, my nigga? You know we can see you, man.

But if you say that shit basketball related, it's basketball related, man. But I think the moral of the story is on the comment. That's the correct thing for Golden State to say because there's nothing else you can say.

Yeah, I want to know, like, really, what's going on in his brain on that last incident where he turned around? Did he really think he was just like a flop play? He said Homeway's grabbing his jersey. I looked at it. Homeway snagged it a little bit, but it didn't come from all that.

What happened to smacking his hand off? Yeah, I agree. I totally agree with you. I guess he's saying his head is a part of the ball. You're talking about a left nigga hit you in the right eye.

Your head is a part of the ball. Absolutely, listen. Yo, your face is a part of the ball. Absolutely. Listen. Yo, your face is a part of the ball now. As much as I fuck with Draymond, I'm trying to justify the last thing. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Because look, man, I put,

listen, I might see Draymond this weekend. I don't got time for that shit, man. I really don't, man. Draymond, my nigga, though. Real talk, but on some G shit, Draymond. Draymond my nigga Real talk But on some G shit Draymond

Draymond Choke a nigga like this And say he's going For the ball Draymond my nigga But I can't see How that last one Was about to go

He's taking this Pistons bad boy thing Too far Yeah he from He from Michigan Yeah this is like When you remind When you tell a nigga

Like yo you kinda of remind me of Tupac a little bit as a rapper. Niggas always lose their mind. Yeah, now he gonna stab a nigga tonight. I dig that. So, after the slap, Nurkic's comments is actually going viral because everybody's like, okay, so how did

he feel about it? He said, what's going on with him? I don't know. Personally, I feel like that brother needed help. I'm glad he didn't try to choke me. So isn't he way taller than Draymond? Well, so was Rudy Gobert. Yo, he slapped him and he fell on the floor like this, like. Listen, covering the side of his eye.

Because the whole shit is this murder. But what you got to realize is this. These niggas is different. They got slap competition knocking niggas out. If you're not expecting a slap to come for us. Like, it isn't like they was ready. Like, he expected that. I can say, listen, I'm not going to do that.

These niggas from overseas, killer. These niggas are supposed to be tougher than this. I ain't going to knock Nerkish. Where's Nerkich from? He's from overseas. It sounds like Russia or something. The point being is. Ain't no way he's supposed to let them slap him.

If Draymond's strong, if you come in on the swivel and you don't know what's happening, you don't know what's happening. Cool. I dig what you're saying, too. His reaction is supposed to be slap, punch, punch, punch. I'm not mad at that. My bad. Yeah. And break it up. Yeah, I'm not punch, punch. I'm not mad at that. My bad. Yeah.

And break it up. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. Don't you ever, nigga. That's what I was expecting. This thing was on the floor like he had a pillow on his face. I said, what's going on? Yeah.

I ain't knocking it, man. Okay. All right. So also on the topic of basketball, Trae Young said the Hawks would have won the 2021 championship if he didn't get hurt. Do you think that's true? Trae Young had COVID.

If he think that team would have won championship, he probably had COVID. They say COVID do something to your brain a little bit. I don't know. I never had it allegedly. If he think that team would have won the championship, he probably had COVID. They say COVID do something to your brain a little bit. I don't know. I never had it, allegedly. You thought the Hawks were going to win the championship? That's wild.

Okay. That's wild. I don't know about that one. What do you think? The championship? Maybe they could have. I take that back. I don't know about that one. What'd you think? The championship? Maybe they could have. I take that back. I take that back.

If they would have beat the Bucs, they would have played against the Suns. You had COVID, nigga. I'm going with your first answer. No, they wouldn't have won no motherfucking championship. Listen, man, what I will say is your confidence is crazy

he might be from Harlem that nigga might be from Harlem nigga said he could've won the championship that's how Harlem

niggas is we be delusional sometimes yo Trey Young no you wouldn't have won the championship I just I tell you

no you could've stayed healthy you could've been on steroids nigga y'all wouldn't have won the championship it's just that I'll tell you no, you could have stayed healthy. You could have been on steroids, nigga. Y'all wouldn't have won the championship. It's just that simple.

I know you're saying this now because niggas is talking about trading niggas. Niggas is not playing good. So he's trying to do that to remind niggas. We did have a glory time. We had a minute, but we could have. If I didn't get hurt, we would have won the chip because you don't

know what rumors are circulating around Atlanta Hawks locker room or front office right now. It could be anything. Them niggas is playing so bad, you don't know what the rumblings are. Grant Hill, maybe we'll give you a call and you can give us some insight on what's going on down there. You know, shout out to Grant Hill. He's also somebody who gave us a bunch of invitations

to come down and watch the Hawks play as well as he has some part of the Hawks ownership I believe but no Trey Young y'all wouldn't have won the championship

I'm not even gonna make this a topic no Trey wouldn't have won a championship no no no Mace

why why you ain't doing nothing now why why they okay who they had that year

that they had they had Collins I don't what's, okay, who they had that year that they'd have? They had Collins. I don't know if Collins isn't there anymore. They had Capella. I think that's the, Capella's not there? Capella's still there.

Still there? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. No, there wasn't no one, no shit. There wasn't no one.

And you got, and you got, because they got Murray now. Basically, I, what I took, that may be a shot at Murray before you got here. Shit was on, shit was on. Basically, that may be a shot at Murray before you got here.

Shit was on. Shit was on. Yeah, because what's the white boy name that was playing the two guard? He was doing work, too. For Atlanta? Yeah, Brodjanen or something. I know what you're talking about. He was good.

He was really good. Okay. Real quick to backtrack on the Draymond conversation, because more comments are being made, so we got to react to them. Swaggy P went on Undisputed with Skip Bayless and talked about the slap. He said he's more of a cheap shot guy,

but he tends to do that to a lot of Europeans. He's messing with nothing but foreigners. He had a lot of UFC in him. Do you agree with the comments he made? And then how do you feel about him sharing that on Undisputed? That's what I just said. Basically. Before we get,

I want you to go first. Yeah. Skip, how many niggas you gonna take off the streets? Shout out to Swaggy P. Don't disrespect Swaggy. He was on our show. You know,

Swag is my nigga. But this is screaming desperation. Bubba Dub, shout out to Bubba Dub, Yellow Beezy, Swaggy P. I thought you hired Lil Wayne and Michael Irvin. And sorry, the college announcements on Undisputed.

That was here first. I just got to put that out there. Skip the file out. Skip the file out. Yo, fam. Y'all niggas are doing college announcements after we do the college announcement. Shout out to Deion Sanders. Yo, Skip, look, look, Skip.

Copy, give me a close-up. Pause. Skip, get my tattoo. It'll go better. Yeah, what's your tattoo case that people can't see? I don't even know. Just follow it, Skip. Write something on your forearm. Yeah. Wear a bandana. Yeah, Skip. Write something on your form.

Yeah. Wear a bandana. Yeah, anything. But yeah, that's the fact. We do the college announcements. You do college announcements. Oh, the original cash you're hiring is a worker? Who's hiding in there?

And listen, man, I like Skip because he keeps the culture. But this season is screaming desperation. No disrespect to no I've been on the show everybody that I named is my niggas from Lil Wayne to Yellow Beezy

to Bubba Dub everybody them but Skip is scrambling yo Skip is scrambling shout out to Swaggy P

but murder again I'll chime in after you was gonna say what he said that's it like thinking about it I was thinking

the exact thing I know Swaggy might be from Com what he said. That's it. Like, thinking about it, I was thinking the exact thing. I know Swaggy might be from Compton or something, so that's it. That's a Worldwide Hood view that, bro, you doing that to niggas that won't do nothing. I mean, but I don't know in the NBA who would do something at this point. Let's think about it. Yeah. I think LeBron ain't having that. Who else you got?

Who do you think is going to stand up to Draymond Green? That's a good question. I seen the nigga in the comments when we posted it on the Is What It Is page. Nigga said, let's jump on Smokey Voice. It's like, right now. I think Brooks Will respond

Even though he's not A good player Brooks who? He's not a great player Dylan Brooks? Yeah I think he a lot of gaffel I think

I think he knows How to sell it My opinion Randall He wouldn't slap Randall Julius Randall Does Randall look like He'll

He'll say something This is crazy That we That we have to really Think about Somebody gonna stand up Who will Julius Randle. Does Randle look like he'll say something? This is crazy that we have to really think about somebody who's going to stand up. who will stand up for themselves.

That's crazy. Because if this was the 90s, everybody would or early 2000s. And I hate to keep bringing up the 90s or 2000s,

but it's such a disparency in play and people's attitude. Yeah, who would he slap and get an instant response from? Right.

Look, we used to talk about Rudy Gobert. Rudy Gobert's 7'1", 7'7". He like not only choke him, choke him and drag him. You ain't trying to get a nigga off you, my nigga? That's minimum for a nigga. Rudy was like, my nigga, you 7'4".

He wouldn't do that to Joker, though. Joker is fine even if he tried Joker got two big brothers as far as that being the fucking crowd I see them niggas jump out them niggas come out two

there's three seven foot niggas out there that's crazy that it's a whole NBA and we were not able to name one person so everybody that's watching this go in the chat right now and write

who Draymond would not do that to. Yeah. That's a great question. Yeah. Well, also speaking of the 90s and 2000s basketball, the Chicago Bulls announced their inaugural Ring of Honor class. It headlines

Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and Dennis Rodman, which is a very anticipated reunion. Charles Barkley reacted and said, you talk about weirdest, uncomfortable. Uncomfortable won't even do it justice. I can't wait to go to this. So how do you think it'll go? Yeah.

Yeah, I knew it was crazy because they put Pippen name down at the bottom so it wasn't closed by my, and hopefully that's the seating arrangement. But I know this is going to be crazy. Imagine you go to a ring ceremony. I'm just tired of talking about it. Barkley said it all because you know why? You got your baby mom there with the other nigga who getting in

and getting his ring inauguration, however you want to say it, with his son at the ceremony. So now... Knowing these niggas, Marcus had tried to propose there. They all get a ring.

They get a ring ceremony for everybody. Yo, fam, that's what type of... Since we talking about rings... I felt moved. Yeah, I felt moved. Why they talking about rings? Fair. That'll

be hilarious if that nigga proposes at the ring ceremony and says, where else would be a better place to do it at? That'll be fucking hilarious. And they have Horace Grant on the list which is crazy but I thought about it

the nigga did switch up remember he went to Orlando yeah and they said that he was leaking info bad info when that last dance shit came out they said that he was the one telling information to the reporters about Mike and them he's like it wasn't me he tried to defend

something like we know it was you, Lars. Yeah, Lars did bad. Yeah. I'm really intrigued to see if what Mace said is going to happen. Yeah, if he lunged and cracked the box like this,

it'd be crazy. It'd be crazy. I could just see Scotty and Mike together looking at both of them like this. Yeah, they might both agree on that. That'd be the first time they back in agreement. Yeah, man.

We'll see what happens because you know why? Whoever put this together right now is a sucker too. Y'all could have been did the ring inauguration. It'd been 30 years since they motherfucking were now. Now with all this shit since they motherfucking won. Now, now with all this shit going on outside in their personal lives,

this is the year y'all want to do the ring inauguration because it's what they play. Oh, it's 30 years. It's been 30 years

last year when they won the 92 championship. Okay. Well, it seems like the Bucks got revenge beating the Pacers

140 to 126. Giannis dropped 64 points. How do you feel about the Bucks got revenge. Beating the Pacers 140-126, Giannis dropped 64 points. How do you feel about the Bucks' win? 64? First of all, I'm more intrigued about the fight after the game. You know the nigga, I don't know what happened with him and Halliburton.

He's beefing with the Pacers. One of the assistant coaches poked Halliburton in the, and 64 and 14 is ridiculous. What I think has happened is my personal opinion. It's a few things that I'll say. Giannis didn't know that that in-season tournament was going to start getting that much hype on the buildup. Yeah.

And the Pacers beat them, and he hit a nigga with Dame time. Yeah. So Giannis was like, you know what? I'm tired of trying to figure it out with the new system with Damian Lillard. And they were not saying he doesn't trust Damian. I'm just gonna do what I do. Yeah, I gotta go do what I gotta do. And I don't like these niggas because they were in the championship that we were

supposed to be in. So he went crazy tonight. He dropped over 60 points, 14 rebounds, and wanted to fight after the game. Yeah, and nobody protected him. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So they wanted to fight

after the game. 64, poking Halliburton in the chest like this, Mimi in the back, pause. I like that, Giannis. I like that a lot

and I see where you're frustrated I respect that I respect it because we still the ultimate goal is to win a championship but this was pent up frustration because now LeBron is getting more accolades and more credit to where it could have

all went towards Giannis and after he seen it look we all didn't know that the NBA in play in season tournament was going to end up being that much hype. Yeah. When he got to that final four, when he got out to Vegas, that shit got elevated. That shit was like,

y'all not taking this serious. This is serious. This is happening. Exactly. And I think them young boys were showing off and Giannis missed out on the opportunity and he tried to make up for it tonight. I'll say this, it's a little bit too late for that, but you have plenty of time to win the championship, still go for league MVP and show niggas you ain't nothing to be played with. It seems like there's a lot of built up tension and a lot of players though.

So we're seeing it on the court and I feel like it's going to continue. The way Giannis looked tonight, it don't look like Dre Marshall. To slap Giannis, that nigga look strong. Yeah, he slapped Giannis, both of him and his brothers on the same team. That'd be a bad idea. I don't know if you've seen the footage, but Giannis' brother, they had to hold him back. He was trying to get on the court. They said he had to hold him back.

Big Church said he got to be stopped, man. Nigga Church said if he get fined, that's his whole salary. Yeah, that made God chill out. God chill. Thanks. Well, that's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.