IT IS WHAT IT IS - WTF HAPPENED TO UCONN MAURICE, WILDER IS WILDIN' & PAT BEV TAKES A SHOT AT MATT BARNES!

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

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Okay, we're back at it. What's good, everybody, and welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm your host for today, Cameron and the commentator with my brother, my partner, Mace. What's going on, man? How you doing? I had to run. Yeah, man, my man, Mace. Listen, man, if y'all haven't been watching the show,

it's penalties these days for being late. And the reason I love it is because it was his rule. You know, sometimes, sometimes we all fear the wrath of Mason Bethleh and it is what it is. The staff, everybody, I don't know. You know what's crazy about the rule. Let me introduce my other analyst while we're talking about it. We know today my brother Maurice Cloretta is on as well. Mo, was good, baby? Mo, you made it back, Mo. How you doing, man? I see him got no Yukon, aunt. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute.

Because I want to talk about this rule real quick. Yeah. So my man, Beth, you know, he goes, I don't know, sometimes he, I don't know if he's mad at us or mad at anybody, but we feel the rap here that it's what it is, all for us. And he actually told us no more being late that we have to be on time. So I threw the money on it. I said, well, if you're a minute late at $500.

If you're 15 minutes late, it's 1,000. And if you're 30 minutes late, it's 1,500. Needless to say, he owes four, not owes, he's $4,000 in the whole total. Little more than that, because he paid cash already. And stat is 500. The first day stat was late. Statt, I don't think, I asked the, I said, stat, is this like getting a seat in one of your classes?

She said, I've never gotten a seat. I said, I was right. She was type But you know what's crazy About the whole shit moat Is when when Belfa Introduced this rule to us He walked in late

And told us We need to stop being on time You know y'all Y'all nigs got to start being on top We're a little confused We're like all right No problem man You got it

We don't say nothing back We just It was accountability so I was paying for my own lateness. I was starting it with me. I like that, man. Listen, man. I like that, bro.

Because you know what? You've been responsible about it. You actually, you actually been very responsible. I'm catching my breath right now because of it. Yeah, but listen, man. Before we get into anything else, man, Mo, we're just going to get right to it.

You can't. You came in last week. Pause with Yukon had a shirt, Ohio State you was cross-branded. I didn't even know you represented the girls I knew you's with the niggas but since you was with the girls we'll get to the whole all around

Yukon situation and we'll start with the girls even though we talked about it I didn't really want to get too deep into it because without you being here being that you're the Yukon representative Mo so now you want to give my credit for you

car huh? Listen you took your credit you smashed this from us You went with Gino and Dan. Yeah, you said, you actually said on this show that you felt, you actually said on this show that you felt bad talking to Ohio State basketball because you're that in drenched in Yukon basketball. So let's just start with a few things.

We'll start with the females. We see that y'all got smacked around by Don Stanley and the crew. ending Gino's win streak. This is the second time Don Staley ended a win street by Gino. After the game, which really took more notice than the actual game, Gino threw a slight tantrum after the game against Don. We all heard the speculations the last few days about no handshake. It should have been a handshake, this, that, and the third.

what do you have to say about first the game, a 54-game win streak coming to an end and Gino's actions after the game? I bet it did. Yeah. They said his camera went out. I bet most camera definitely just went out. We say around here, this is how you know when you're about the law. Yeah.

That's what we say around here, man. The camera goes out. You know, I'm... Okay. I bet you can't just conveniently when I'll humble. All right. Well, let me ask you this. How much did you hear of what I said?

No, I heard everything go to the ending of the 52-gay-1 street, but you couldn't see my picture, so I didn't know if you could see me on camera. I didn't want a must-re-recorded, no. Okay, so what I asked is this. what is your response to first the loss by you car in the 54 game

Winstreet coming to the end and Gino's actions after the game with Dawnston Yeah obviously I was I was salty about the loss I didn't I didn't think that They were to lose to South Carolina Seeing that they had a run and I thought they had momentum I did think that they would struggle

With a national championship just with the length halls with UCLA but I didn't see them losing to that. But of course, when I seen after the game, I thought my man was way out of pocket, right? The first thing I thought to myself is like when you see the old white man talking to the black woman, you put your mind in a place, you'd be like, yo, just, you know, a man shouldn't be that aggressive with a woman, especially not an outdoor sport event. Like, he seemed salty on some level. But then two, it was almost like crybabyish. And so I'm like everybody else. And these comments are probably going to mimic what everybody else says. But when you're going to

recruit these girls or whether you go to recruit student athletes in general, when you talk about how you should handle yourself, whether you're winning, whether you're losing, it totally contradicts everything else. And I don't want to take that in one moment and make that pain his career, but in that moment, it just felt foul, right? And I think I was actually watching the game,

you know, I was watching the game, but it was around a bunch of people, you know, being white and black, and it was a bunch of people who felt the same way about those actions. So I wasn't feeling that part. I don't think that that represented you kind well. I really don't think that that represented how he feels in total. You know, we all have moments where, you know, we do stuff that's uncharacteristic,

but I wasn't feeling out because I'm a big fan of Don Stanley. And it just, it just was, it was wild. That's all, like I said. Yeah, Mo, that's really interesting because I was thinking the same sentiment that, you know, it just didn't look right for him to be yelling at her. But it seemed like Don is going to break all of his records. Every time he get a win streak, he got to look forward to her breaking that record. And I think that's just not something he looked forward to.

I think it's time that all of the former generals of basketball, especially when it comes to college basketball as well as college football. The landscape is just changing with NILs. They don't have the stronghold like they used to have on all the talent. This goes back to Pat Summit. You just got to get ready for a new day. I think it's a new day. And Don Staley will be the head of that new day.

He won't be the head of that new day. And I think he's just coming to grips with it and it's hard pause for him to think about him not being a part of that upper echelon when it comes to basketball and females. I'm going to ask a question, though. Yes, go ahead. Do you think it would, do any of y'all think it would have looked different if he was yelling like that at a white woman?

I think that it shows poor sportsmanship no matter white, black or brown, or yellow, or green or whatever. Because my personal opinion, if he won that game, I don't think he would have said that to no matter who the coach was. He wouldn't have paid that any mind because of the frustration, because of what was going on throughout the game. And his brain, it built over and he tried to take it out on Don Stanley. Not only did he not take it out on Don Stanley, right? Let's look at the whole issue. And we talked about it yesterday, but I wanted to talk about it with you.

His beef was before the game. So I learned something this whole weekend. It's a pregame handshake, then it's supposed to be before the game handshake, and then it's after the game handshake. So I looked because I was like, why is Gino mad? Don shook his hand before the game.

But it was pregame, he said. And then we do see a video of Gino standing at half court basically waiting for Don Stanley. But Don Stanley probably was trying to pry. for a Yukon team that just won 54 game straight, so my mom may have not been there. So he loses the game, goes on the shit, she didn't give him a handshake, yeah, yeah, yeah, yada.

But if he was professional, he didn't stick around to do the handshake after the game. You're supposed to stand in line and shake all the females' hands who was part of the game on the other team. And you didn't do that as well. So I think it looked even worse for him not shaking hands then Darne Staley just happened to be missing one handshake

because she's probably trying to prep for a 54-0 team between last season and this season. So I think that's what it was more about than anything. I don't think if it was black, white, or anything else. I just think that it showed sore loser. Mace? Yeah. Yeah, I think exactly what you just said.

He got to look forward to a whole new regime. He's not at the forefront. He's thinking about, you know, he thought when Pat Summitt left, it was going to be all his landscape. It just didn't turn out that way. That's why when you have opportunities to do something great, you got to do it right then and there. Because there's somebody coming out the wings and the woodworks that you just don't even have planned for that has been planning for this moment the whole time.

And it won't be your time next year. So the time that you have, you got to make the most of it. Yeah, that's 100% correct. But it just to me to answer your question more, I didn't matter race or it could have been a man, woman, a child. That shows sore loser. And for him being the all-time winning his coach in college basketball, bro, somebody else is going to win some time. Tom Brady doesn't win all the time. Bill Belichick doesn't win off time.

Michael Jordan doesn't win all the time. Only person that wins all the time that I know of is Floyd Mayweather. outside of that I haven't seen anybody else win all the time so that's just that it was also a part of that game where I felt more bad for Gino with his coaching staff and some of his players

because he was still on the tirade post game took him out it was only six fouls called in the third quarter which was all against Yukon and he said we got a player with a ripped jersey on our team and the refs say they didn't see it Well, obviously, Gino, you didn't see it either because Sarah Strong ripped their own jersey like Hulkomania.

So what are you talking about? I was like, I was like thinking to myself, so nobody's going to tell them, huh? So nobody's going to say nothing. Y'all just going to ignore it, man. So, listen, congratulations. You know, we're making more light of this situation between Gino, Dawn and, you know, we're talking about. South Carolina, and we're talking about UCon, but let's give a lot of props to UCLA winning their first championship in history. As far as women's basketball is concerned and give those players a lot of, a lot of females, a lot of credit.

Their seniors actually scored, I believe, the last 160 points or 170 points or something crazy like that. They scored all the points in the final four. So the seniors came in knowing it was there last year and they came and did they. So I'm sorry this story overshadowed you guys' victory because they didn't just win the championship. They bust South Carolina ass. They busts their ass, man, by 30 points. And we was in the house mad because, you know,

when you think about Don Staley, right? And I say this a lot, but I'm dead serious. It's like when you watch the family feud and the black family's playing, no matter what, I'm just going to root for the black family. And that's how I feel. when Dawn Stanley plays, like, I got to go for it because it's black. Think about Don Stanley, right, Mo, right, Mace?

She comes on, Valenciaaga, Louis Wayne game, Gucci, no suits, no sweatsuits. You know, she comes there with name brand designer, and that's how she coaches. I look at her, and she comes from Philadelphia. So when she doesn't win, I take it as the whole black community loss, and that's just how I look at it. Not saying the UCLA that I have black players or Yukon, those are black players, but we just look at Don as the black family or family feud when she's playing and we're, and we're,

Oh, let me say this. Yes, go ahead. So I was watching the game with my wife, and the first thing she said, she's like, I don't think UCLA got any black players. And so you might be right. I don't think that UCLA doesn't have any black players. So it was really the predominantly black team playing the predominantly white team. And I don't know if I can fact check that.

I don't know if it was somebody tucked away on the bench, but it didn't look like they had them. But I will say this as well. And I don't know if I just wasn't paying attention. I know that the Bet sisters were talked about. But coming off that year with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and Fulaget and all them, I just thought that women's basketball, again, we talk about marketing the product. I thought that they could have marketed them women a lot better than what they did. Because they was phenomenal.

They played well. just ball movement, execution of plays, and just dominated in general. I thought that they did a great job. That's a good point. I just thought about that. What?

They didn't market them. No, no, that's true. They didn't market them. But the last three, four years, the best woman, you know, we could throw, there's a lot, don't get me wrong,

before the KM say, oh, Flage, Angel Reza, there's been some white girls kicking ass now. We got Paige Beckers last year. Then we had to hear before that What's baby love?

Caitlin Clark Caitlin Clark now we got the two sisters in UCLA, 6, 7. I don't know if they're predominantly, I don't know if they're white, white, but if they, you know they ain't black, black. You know what I'm saying? Listen, man, it's a new day.

Now, don't get me wrong, there's a lot of great black players, man. Shout to my home girl, Kiomi up there. killing to us well. I would love to see Kiomi go to South Carolina and Kimomi McBuckets, I call her. She gets a lot of buckets. But Mo, let's move on real quick.

Danny Hurley in the gang. You know, we're not... Oh, and show with Danny Early. You're still cool? Yeah, we're going to spend a little bit of a couple minutes with that because, you know, let's think about it, right? I'm rooting for UConn in this game because Danny Hurley, Jersey City.

You know, we consider that part of Tri-State area if you're in New Yorker. If you're talking about Connecticut, we talk about New York, Connecticut, New Jersey. Michigan came in and they bust out. They made the real, one thing about Yukon, you can't never count them out. They made that a real interesting game towards the end, but they fumbled on a few key plays, a lay-up they missed, forced threes, a lot of different errors. Mo, what do you have to say about the loss, the Yukon?

Are you happy that they just made it to the chip? Or do you think they should have won? And what do you have to say about the overall season? Oh, well, one, you happy they made it, but you disappointed. They didn't make it all the way. I'm not somebody who pride myself and just making it to the game. You want to win and execute the game, right? So the whole time I'm watching this on the plane,

I'm thinking to myself like, man, I can't wait to get the Monday to talk shit, right? So in the whole comment section, shout out to all the people in the comment section on my page who wanted me to win just so I can have bragging rights. But at the end of the day, Michigan dominated them in the paint. You know, they dominated them in the paint and then they got it to file trouble early. And so it was still the same UCon team, still the same. A lot of movement on offense, a lot of picks, a lot of threes. It was still the same UCon team. But Michigan had those two seven footers who just dominated the paint.

And then what they did really well, we had the young kid. He's not the young kid. He's the first year kid who came over from overseas. They just picked their biggest big man, they picked the one, the inexperienced guy in that situation. And then once you got these guys in foul trouble, once you start to dominate the paint and just control the rim, control the backboard, you know, we just got in trouble. And then remember when we started out in the second half, we got into foul trouble real early. Silas got into foul trouble real early. And the kid's solo ball got into foul trouble real early.

So they just took advantage of that. And I forget the kid's name. The Guard from Michigan number 23, I think it was. He just dominated off the ball, taking dudes to the racks, taking dudes to the racks causing files. And so they won fair and square. You know, I wanted to win just to have bragging rights.

But that's how I go sometimes. Your team wins, the team loses. But I also heard stat, hey, you know what I'm saying? What you heard of saying? What you heard of saying? That was a static. She was. Yeah, static didn't want me to win.

and saw her throw a jab with me the other day. So it's all good. Misery love company. That's how you put it. Misery definitely loves company because last week she couldn't wait to find a reason. So, oh, you're wearing that hat. Don't wear the hat. Don't do this.

Don't do that because she lost. Let me ask you one last question pertaining to you, Korn. And let's make you have something else to say. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Did you get a call from Arabia? Because Arabia is big time Michigan. and everything Michigan,

even now, now, see, this is where the lines get crossed and blurred, right? Because she's Michigan throughout. But you got two different universities that you could go to when it comes to Michigan. Did you get any slack from Arabia? And Arabia, shout to you, we miss you up here. We can't wait to see you again soon. Yeah, you can see Arabia last week. I don't know if you seen the group chat,

but she shot a message to, like, go Michigan when she found out the U-Com's playing Michigan. I was like, yo, Arabia, you don't even watch your basketball. She was like, I do that. So I did tell them congratulations what it was. I ain't a sore loser. I hate to lose, but I'm not a sore loser.

I can give somebody a props if they really beat us, right? If the reps impact the game, I try to leave it out the pitcher. I'll make mention of it, but I ain't a sore loser. I give, I give dues their credit. So I reached out to Arabia and the group chat shot our message. Congratulations to you in Michigan. But I got another reason. Michigan now, Michigan for basketball through

Yukon and Michigan for football officers through Ohio State. That's what's up. Moving on this past weekend, Deontay Wilder defeated Derek Chisora in a split decision fight. This fight was a slugfest. I don't know if you've seen this fight or not.

But there was some wild shit going on in this fight. Like, you know, I'm part of me. I'm commentator, Kim. I've got to get to you and Mace. But this fight was all over the place. Deonté Wilder actually won the fight It was during the fight He also was promoting love

Saying that he loves Derek Before he hits him Everything else And then after the fight he says We have to show more love to each other Because we are only ones Who have each other back talking about boxes This is coming from somebody that says

He wished he killed somebody in the ring Now I know he's probably mature And lost a few fights from then After the fight He actually called out Anthony Jolly Anthony Joshua say you don't want that. Mo, what do you think about Deontes fight this weekend? And what do you think about a potential fight with him against Anthony Joshua?

Well, I enjoyed the fight this weekend. I thought it was like the old school Deontay Wilder. And this was, I hate to say it, but this is after coming off of his breakup. I actually like when niggas breaking up with their girls. You know what I mean? Because they really focused on that anymore. it too. But go ahead. But I think all of that played a role and you back focused on what made you famous and we got you the girl in the first place, right? And so I thought it was very entertaining

when he was in the ring talking to the dude damn there during the whole fight. But I'm telling you right now, he looked like old school. I don't care. Southern country, Alabama, let me just hit you with these crazy ass right hands, like what made him famous? And, you know, then when he was, you know, locking up with the dude in the corner of the ring and Dan told him, I love you before he saw it before he punched him and damn there knocked him out the ring. It was entertaining, you know what I thought he lost itself after the, what was it, the second Tyson Fury fight? I thought like somewhere, some way, somehow he's kind of lost himself, but sometimes you go

through personal stuff that helps you gather yourself or helps you focus on what made you famous. And I think that he took that. But I actually think that Joshua, after he got knocked out against Ruiz, sort of went through the same thing, but you remember, Anthony Joshua just lost his best friend. And that car wrecking, I think it was like, I don't know if it was in South Africa, but it was something like that. Yes, it was.

And so I think, yeah, I think both of them personally, you know, like deep personal situations can make you focus on, like, you can go back to focusing on your craft because it's what keeps you safe or what keeps you saying. And I just think that it will be made for a mega fight. And I think if you get Turkey Ali in here and you get both dudes to get paid right, I think that you have like that mega. a fight that you probably tried to have four or five years ago. Yeah, I think when it comes to this fight, when it comes to him fighting Derek, I knew he was

going to beat Derek, so I really didn't watch it. I really was looking forward to him fighting Anthony, Joshua, or Yusick of one of them out. I don't think he could beat at all. But I think when he lost his girlfriend, it put him back in that place where he has nothing to lose. It's something about when people lose everything. Yeah. They no longer have any fear of anything because it's not.

Nothing to fear you already lost everything. So then I think that made him hit the reset button. He's fighting like he doesn't have anything to lose, but he's also fighting like he's trying to win back certain things that he had. Maybe that's a future payday against Anthony Joshua. I think this is a phenomenal fight upcoming. I think this is the fight that Joshua used to duck, but the mystique of who Wild there is now is gone away.

When he was ducking Wilder was because Wilder was knocking niggas out with one punch. Now I think after you've seen somebody get beat once, twice, three times, that whole air of invincibility is gone. So I think he'll take the flight. But I still think it'll be an amazing fight. And I still think I'm not sure who wins in this fight. Yeah, I would assume, like, mixed up. We actually almost missed the fight.

Yeah. We just tried, oh yeah, he's fighting, and then we watched it. But Derek came to fight. There wasn't no one line. It wasn't no motherfucking walking the park. Those niggas was, like Mo said, this was a great heavyweight competition. Rabbit punches, niggas wrestling each other. Yo, that fight was tight wild.

Like, these niggas was wrestling. Yo, bro, I was confused watching this shit for a minute. But I'll tell you one thing, man, that the kid Derek won the fight. And that's why it wasn't even a unanimous decision and it was a split decision. I was thinking the same thing that Deonté Wilder was going to walk through him. But shout out of dark, he put up a great fight.

Now, let's get to some of the comments Deonti Wilder's going viral for more than the actual fight. Deonti Wilder has been talking about his ex-wife with his first child, I believe, talking about how she impregnated herself with his sperm. What? Yeah, yeah, that's where we're at. She impregnated herself with.

with his sperm and not only that it was an extortion play but he wanted to keep the baby he actually said I used to bust on her stomach and I would keep a towel right there to wipe it off because I'm a gentleman

but this time I bust on her back and she said no no don't wipe it and ran in the bathroom then two weeks later she was pregnant what do you think about these comments from Dialladay Wilde. Do you think that... Moe, do you think

you can actually get impregnated from secondhand? Spurn. Pause. I'll answer the second question first. Scientifically, I don't know. I've heard like once sperm hits the air that it dies.

So that's what I've heard. But there's no scientific proof. I'm pretty sure somebody can Google it and figure that out. I heard that too. Yeah, I don't know, right? But I will say this. Like when I heard, I thought I was like, it was

two things. One, I thought it was funny. But then I thought to myself that social media has really taken, and this wasn't even on social media. He was actually talking to Pierce Morgan, but I think social media has triggered something to people to believe that they need to talk

about everything all the time to anybody. And obviously, if you say stuff like that, you hurt. Like personally, with the girl, and this is a way of the get back at her to try to shame her on national TV, to distance yourself from her, to make her feel shameful, disgusted. So I looked like a hurt dude, you know, and then let me go ahead to shame old girl on TV to make her sing like she trashed. But that's all it is, man, my man was hurt. But I just

thought to myself, I said, I wish she had somebody around just to say like everything doesn't belong on, I don't want to say TV, but everything doesn't belong in the media. Some conversations need to remain private. And no matter how hurt you are, that's still your child's mother. So So it's still in some regard. You got to honor her because she's raising your child. And then once you do something like that, man, that's like sort of like a get back to life.

Like she'll never get over that. I don't think that woman will ever get over that. And so all the games that a woman can play with you for life, I think that she's going to play with him because in that moment, he embarrassed her on national TV. Oh, man. This is very interesting because when it comes to this situation,

I'm not sure about the question, but I think with him saying this, like you said, it's probably going to raise his child support. You know, people got to think about what they're saying when they're in these positions because I think that's the only thing that could come out of it. Like, you could become enemies, and it's going to raise your child support.

I think every time a guy gets a woman upset that raises his child support. I don't know if you know about that, Mo, but do you know about that killer? Every time you get upset, it's going to raise a child support. I had a flat fee. And see, this is what people hate all the line, right? The conservatives, they hate when they hear the truth.

The truth is hitting from people so much that when we come on this show, people try to make us feel shameful for telling them the truth. This is really what's going to. on in the real world. Some people got a flat fee. Some people are being up charge every time they say something that their child's mother doesn't like. They don't

do something right. He's going back to court to raise his child support. And they got to do some about this. This is a California case again. Move to California. Think he's starting over. And I'm not sure. I'm just saying what

it feels like. It feels like a California case. Let me say that. If you're from Alabama, I don't know where the baby was born at, but it's from Alabama. But it's probably in California. Maybe. I don't. I have to check that out. Do some research on that.

I didn't check where it was at. Yeah, but what about the part with him beating the guy and telling them he love him? That's like an old school black people thing. Tell you they love you while they're beating you. Well, it was a part where the guy looked like. He said he's seen the guy vain coming out of his head, pause. And he told me he loved.

Yeah, but he didn't knock him out. Homeboy still. Homeboy still was fighting and everything else. But after the fight, see, this is the thing that I've seen Floyd Mayweather, senior, say before when I believe he was training Ricky Hatton, if I'm not mistaken, that some fighters lose toughness once they get the money and then they live comfortably and they don't have to wake up at 6 a.m. to go jogging anymore. It's hard to wake you up when you're in a mansion to go jogging.

Silk sheets. Who said that? Was that Marvin Hagler? Marvin Hagler. Yeah. But I remember Floyd Mayweather's senior saying that, I believe. I might have been Ricky. I remember talking about it.

But as you get older, you know, mindset changes a little bit. But you got to realize you're still in the hurt business. I've seen Mike Tyson kiss Lennox Lewis after he knocked him out. After Lennox Lewis knocked him out. And like I had to do my... My job. Yeah. Well,

my, well, Alex was not Mike Tyson out. Yeah. That's when he says spinal.

It's just, he said, Mike, Mike said, Mike said, I broke my back. He said, Mike, you broke your back?

He said, how? He said, what part? He said, spinal. Spinal. Shout to Mike. I'd be seeing Mike

on the flights like I got time. Mike. Yeah, shout to Mike. But, that's the true story as well.

But I think people get older, the hunger's gone. It's not everybody who has the same hunger as when they first start, especially when you're making money. And not only once you make money, sometimes you've been humbled as well, right? Deonti Wilder was on a, I think he had 41 fights with 40 knockouts before he started losing. And then we've seen him knocked out three, four different times since his undefeated record has happened. And so maybe he's being humbled as well, saying, listen, man, and we ought to start protecting ourselves.

It wasn't, you know, this is when he said he wanted to kill somebody when he was 41 and 0. Yeah. He's about 43. I'm just guessing 44 and 4. Yeah. I love you. You know.

He understands what it's like to be on the other side. Exactly. So that's what I take from it. As far as the baby mother situation, it's a few things that I took from that. First of all, I'm never getting a rag. I'm never going to get the warm rack no matter what

what I look like wiping you wolf you got me messed up man I've never been that type of guy just haven't been that type of guy because he said he kept a warm rag or towel to wipe off because he's a gentleman nah

that just isn't me And secondly, this case, right, I have a partner, I'm going to say it because this is my partner's name. His name is Schittzo. He's one of my producers. So to my producer I was doing music. And he used to tell me this story, how is the girl. He showed me his baby. This girl he had a baby with moved to Africa.

The kid looks exactly like him. Spitting image. He said, yo, I didn't even bust in her. I said, what are you talking about? He said, yo, she took the condom and she had, this is the exact words because I used to think that it was bugger. She had a turkey baster in her pocketbook.

I said, yo, skitser, cut the, yo. Because you all realize if you're on. A turkey baster? Yeah, poor. He gets snout out of baby's nose. Yeah, he said she had that in his pocketbook. Now, if you know Schizo out there, y'all know that you just going to look at the nigger

like, yo, come on, man. Come on, man. When it's going to stop with you. That's what you're going. They both know schizo P-T and B. So you know if he's telling you this, you like, yo, come on. They show you a picture of the baby.

I said, yo, I don't give a fuck. That's your kid. But you ain't going to tell me turkey baster. Maybe pre-execulate something. But now I hear another case of this. So we all know what to believe. Yeah, because I heard all the years that I heard, but I've heard growing up,

and for the little bit of science of class that I went to, Mo, it's a bunch of sperm hits the air is supposed to be dead. That's what I heard. Yeah. So if it's on your back paws and you run into the bathroom,

it should be dead. I don't know, bro. That's probably why there was a rapper before that put hot sauce in his own condom so the girl tried to take it out and burnt her. Yeah, you know, listen,

I got one child, man. I'll pull out games immaculate. It's top notch. It's top notch, man. And I meant to have that baby. That was on purpose, man. Listen, for me, right? It's no female pussy that that's good

that's going to make me want to stick around 18 years that I'm just randomly sleeping with. You got to realize that some, you're a meal ticket out there, man. You know what I'm saying? And girls will have that baby, man. And I'm a good father. So if I know I have a baby that I'm not with the girl,

I still would be in a child's life. All this is in my brain when the cum is about to come pause. And I can't do it. I'm just not going to do it. So thank you God because the one child that I have was playing. But at the end of the day, you got to be aware of these things, man.

You have to be aware. But listen, he's still in his daughter's life. Shout to Deonti Wilder. Shout to the mother. You know, we're just going off the stories that we hear on the Internet and giving our feedback. I mean, nothing malicious. I'm just sharing my stories that I've been through growing up.

Let me say something else. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, but people know who they with. Yeah. That's another part. And that's what you know who you were. To your point, that's what Deontes say.

He said she was promiscuous. I didn't know at the time. And, um... He knew. Yeah, yeah. He knew. Yeah, yeah. I didn't want to get involved.

She said. But she tagged me in. Yeah. He knew. It was a time when, um, shout out the 50 Cent. 50 Cent was talking about Big Baby. Big Baby used to data, you know, and they was about the fight. And Big Baby was talking.

about her and his dealings with her. So you know, how many times can a woman be with a celebrity before you know? How many celebrities? Like if she was with one rapper and then she was with another rapper, you're like, I don't know, but I can't be the third one. You know what I'm saying? The first one could be a mistake. The second one ain't a mistake.

Yeah, but. You're shopping for rappers. This is a good point. I like that. I like, this is a great point. I like that. I'm going to be clean about it. Yeah, I got a hundred percent correct.

I got a job to do. No, listen, I like your perspective. I love it. Yeah. I love when you're honest about things. You're shopping for boxes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

A hundred percent. But then at the same time, are you mad at somebody who only likes light skin females? If you got a type, you got a type. Yeah, you got a type. That's real, too, so he can't be mad with her. Yeah. He got a type too.

Yeah, she got a type. He went for it. Yeah, me, I'm more like my little niggins. I ain't got no type. Me too. Check your own advice. Nick can't let you have no more. Yeah, man.

But to add on to what you're saying, we have this conversation not necessarily with boxing, at least since we started this show, at least 12 times. Yeah. When is it going to stop? When are you going to notice this is what they like and this is what they do?

But listen, Beth, we're in another era. You know, I'm just saying... We're in the era of people liking to know that she's been with somebody. pop a little before them. Yes, there you go. They love it. That's the words I couldn't must be together that I was trying to put together.

A hundred percent correct. That is the everything. They love to say, oh, I'm with such and such girl. No, she's yours now. What are you talking about? Yeah. That's fair. Yo, that's a great point because they so caught up

that it was so-and-so girl that they're not even realizing. It's your bill now. Yeah. Yeah. It's just your bill. You're cooking today. You're cooking now.

Here's going to bail. There ain't going right there. It's your bill today. What else, niggas. Yeah, it take a while with people's brain and click on. I remember when I, you know, when I first had my first son and my wife was telling me to, she was like, you got to watch your son. I said, why am I babysitting?

Why am I babysitting? She said, nigger, you're not babysitting. It's your son. I thought of it as babysitting. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know. Yeah.

Don't act like to say my first time. Why are you baby sick. Great point, man. Very good point. But good luck to everybody involved, man. Moving on. Lately, Pat Bev has been having a lot to say, and he's been going back and forth with a few players.

Recently has been Matt Barnes. I've seen Matt Barnes, pardon me, let me correct that. I've seen Patrick Beverly respond to Matt Barnes. I'm not sure exactly what Matt Barnes said but Patrick Beverly last comment said when I seen them on a podcast or a show

I'm not sure I've seen it on the internet but he said that listen why does Matt Barnes keep talking about me this is Pat Beverly's words he keeps saying my name and everything else I'm going to take a page out of Duane Wade's book you're not better than me and nothing not minutes per game not points per game

not steals per game not more playoffs wins, anything. He said not a salary. Now, I didn't know this, and I didn't fact check this. Wow. But Pat Bev said he leads Matt Barnes in every statistic in basketball, which is hard to think about, right?

When he thinks about that. And he averaged a single, single. Yeah, I don't know. Pat Bell might average a turn. I don't know. You know what? When you are more talking, I'm going to check out his stats.

But he said it's nothing than Matt Barnes. does better than... I like when Pat Bev talks like that. Right. And he told him he's not Derek Fisher. Right, yes. And he said you could take that left or right. That's exactly what he said.

Thank you, Bezo, for reminding me about that as well. But the question is, players seem to not give other players the same grace when they're starting to do journalism. as they do to the journalists. Where does that... Where does that go when it crosses the line more? What's your opinion on players

show more respect to the journalists than former players? Yeah, I don't know. I think these two have... I don't just some of the comments to comments around. You can take it left or right. That's a comment, like, nigga, you can get this work if you want to.

And to me, I think they both cross the line. And I don't know if you've seen Matt. Matt Barnes responds back to him. He said, hey man, I know you said something about Derek Fisher, but I'm here to let you know I'm not your sister either because, you know, Pat Bell was accused of beating up on his sister. And basically Matt Barnes kind of opened that door to say, hey, you're not Derek Fisher, but I'm not your sister.

And so I think like it's a competitive thing just from guys playing the game and playing sports. And you can never view them as journalists because y'all stepped on the same court, did the same thing. And I just think it's more natural for guys to be competitive if you did the same sport or something similar. But with me with this, Pat Beav, just like I thought Deonté abhor was hurt from something that happened in his relationship, I think Pat Bev listened to everything that everybody had to say to him, either direct or indirect when he was going through that thing

with his sister. And even when he tried to come back on bars to what they talked about he lost his show and all this other stuff. And I think Pat Beb might be sort of like what Mace was talking about. you say somebody has nothing to lose. I think he's more functioning from that space because if you hear how he's talking now, he just got like, remember the crass dummies with the cars where you run into a wall. He just running to a wall with everybody.

Like basically anybody who won't smoke, I'm just calling out of how I see and say what it is. And if you got something to say about it, do something about it. And so that's kind of like, you know, whether you agree with it or disagree with it, that's the stuff that cuts through. And so, I don't know, I like it.

I like his approach, know, I don't want anything to go further than what it is. I think that you can, you know, talk about stuff aggressively, but respectfully when you're doing journalism. But I think they both crossed the line once you start opening up the door to fighting. Because I think that's what they was both saying, but they had to say in a respectful way based on their platforms. I just think that that's a little too far, in my opinion.

Yeah, me personally, I like the longevity that Pat Beb pause have shown, like going from he didn't stop once his career stopped in the NBA he went to the other countries to play i even like the idea of of um everything that he he's trying to relate i think he just needs a better way to relay it i like him trying to be honest it's just when you play the game people be looking for a little bit more grace that you played the game they supposed to have this brotherhood and I think that's that's what he um what what Matt Barnes was probably expecting from him but I like I also like the Chicago and I'm that just say you know I'm not going and you know even but the situation with his sister and you know I'm gonna stay out of family business but you can never

put your hands on a woman there's never going to be an excuse for that but I I really appreciate what he's trying to do outside of that yeah um I have a really really They shit with Matt Barnes. That's my bro. And Stack 5. I don't know Pat Bev at all, but I know that sometimes we come on the show and we make fun of Pat Bev.

But, you know, just Pat Bev's journey. Now, this isn't taking sides of anything. I think Pat Bev's journey to where he got in, as far as the NBA is concerned, has been astounding. Yeah. You know, listen, this is a guy who led Chicago, not Chicago, Illinois is his senior year in points

at high school I'm talking about. Yeah, 37 points per game. Average. You average 37. Not only average 37, you average 37 in the city like Chicago with great, great, great basketball players. No scholarship offers come. You get one scholarship.

You finish playing college basketball. You have to go overseas for three, four years, then get drafted into the NBA after that, only to get cut, only to go back overseas, then finally make it back to the NBA, and then you have to be primarily a defensive specialist when you're known your whole life is a scorer. We're getting buckets.

Right. So I just want to give him a shout because a lot of times we'll say, Pat, you average in a single, single, or, you know, Pat, go fuck a bitch before the game because he says he doesn't have sex before the game. So we get him all the time, but his journey on his career,

I just want to give him a shout out before I gave my opinion. Now back to this thing with him and Matt Barnes, Listen, bro, I hope they don't go that far, but I know I've seen in the comments when Matt Barnes was saying something about, you know, Matt Barnes actually been going back and forth with Stephen A. Smith, and he's trying to be politically correct.

And Stack v. was in the comments, said, man, fuck that. We ought to smoke. Fuck everybody. I was like, that's them niggas right there. You can't expect for this to go good, man. So I won't comment on their situation. shout to my niggins.

Stack 5 and Matt Barnes. Like I said, I don't know Pat Bell, but much love to you. But that's where it gets, right? Listen, man, I was online arguing with Stefan Marbury about basketball. I have no right to argue with Stefan Marbury about basketball.

And I'm like, Nick, I used to bust your ass. He's got the laughing emojis. And I said, Steph, at high school I killed you. He said, yes, Kim, you're still a high school player to this day. That's something Steph would say to him. But he's right. I didn't even get to play in college because I got home.

You said you're a high school player right now. You said you're still in high school. You're still high school player. But I'm holding on to my basketball memories. Yeah. And this is my argument that I bought Steph as a, and it reminds me when Floyd was arguing with Bill Haney. And Bill Haney.

You got an undefeited fighter in the gym. And Bill Haney was actually saying, telling Floyd out, yo, Devin got the best of you in sparring. And Floyd may be over respond and said, listen, Bill, if you got an undefeated fighter in the gym, congratulations. And that's how I felt when Steph told me that. You know, I come up here and chat to my other brother who came on the show,

and I'm up here telling Rafa Austin, y'all may know I'm skipped to my Lou, how I bust his ass. I have no right to talk to these people like this whatsoever. These niggas are professional athletes. Not only professional athletes played in the NBA long enough to get a pension, which means they had a decent career in the NBA. So when you have these, but, you know, I'm leading to something. And what I'm leading to is when you have these players that,

played against each other and now they're analysts or they have a podcast or they have an opinion and they actually been the same time frame playing against each other now they can go back

to shit like that like nigger fuck you talking about I bust your ass or I bust your ass I remember Pat Bell was talking about Damian Lillard and Damian Lillard's like

I sent you home nigga nigger how is you talking about me I said you and Paul George home because Pat Bell was making fun to Dame time shit And then he's like, yo, I know you.

I bye-bye you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know this, nigga. So when you have these people post-career that have been four, my athletes played against each other, it's going to happen. It happens when athletes are generations apart or decades apart.

You got Charles Barkley talking about, you know what I would have did to Draymond if I played. This happens when niggas don't even play against each other. You see Shaquille O'Neill on town. Man, that nigga ain't, man, if I played in this era, I would have 60 years every night. It happens when, like I said, don't play against each other. So you have people who played in the kind of the same generation and they have an opinion. It's going to happen.

I look at Kendrick Perkins and shot the big perk. And he said he lost a lot of friends because he has a job to do and give his opinion. And when he gives his opinion, now he don't get no more free LeBron sneakers. He said the LeBron sneakers and everything that was coming out. He used to get the low tops in the hot stuff. Yeah, he gets everything. He said, LeBron don't even speak to him when he sees him now. He said, that was his man since high school.

You know, said Kevin Durant got mad at him before because he ain't played with Kevin Durant. He had to give his opinion. So I understand when players get mad at other players because he like, they might look at Kendrick like, nigger, nigger. Come on, nigga. You know. You know. You know.

Exactly what I did. Yeah, you know exactly. Yeah, you were there. Yeah, you were still. But Kendrick has a job to do. You know, and then when there's somebody like Mesa myself, what you're going to tell us? Whatever. Whatever.

Whatever. We are extension of what's going on in urban America. It's what they... You actually know what we're talking about. No, no, no, no. Don't get it fucked up. Yeah. We know what we're talking about.

But if they, you know, you know, we're talking about. This is what happens, right? So we'll give our boxing opinion, right? Yeah. You're like, y'all niggas don't want to get in a ringing box with us right now. Come back. Yo, because we're giving a professional analyzation of whatever sport we see, that don't mean we want to come play y'all in a full court.

That don't mean we want to pick up a tennis racket. That don't mean anything. That means we've seen something and we're not going to ignore what we've seen. I'm sorry, Macy, y'allis. Yeah, like Larry Merchant. Yeah, yeah, Larry Merchant. Yeah, they don't like talking to Larry. Yeah, they don't like talking to.

I ain't going to claim Larry Mergers to say. I hate Larry. Larry pissed me off. Larry said, so you're not going to fight Trinidad. Yeah, it got to the point where... He was the only one I saw get to Bernard. Yo, you got the Bernard. You know, you got the Floyd.

He told Floyd, everybody. He told Floyd, if I was 20 years young, I beat the shit out of you. Lennon Alibis stepped in and said, you won't do shit. I said, Larry got under the niggas. And I ain't trying to be Larry Merchant. But yeah, Mace is right. Because you know why? Larry was also overdoing it with his take.

Larry would sit there be like, well, he isn't throwing any punches. We're looking. I don't know why we came out here tonight. He made everybody get dressed to come to a fight. And nobody's fighting. They're getting in the ring and say exactly. He's going to commentate.

Larry Tobinard. You know nobody likes this fight, right? You're the only one in this fight. You won't do this twice. Right, that's a fact, man. They got Larry your ass up out of here, too. You see Larry in about 10 years. Listen, we're going to go to break.

When we come back, we're going to discuss the Greek freak losing out on money from Nike for not playing 41 games to season. We'll be right back. It is what it is. Welcome back to It Is What It Is, Everybody. Welcome back to It Is What It is, everybody. when my man Mace, my man Moe is in the day, Stadda be back.

I am Cam Ron the moderator for the show today. Cam, is moderator. Excuse me? It's moderator. What I say? Monorator. You know what? Say the alphabet right now.

I bet you mess up. Don't sing it, neither. Don't sing it. Yeah, I bet you can't do it without singing. A, B, C, D, E, F, J, K, L, M, N-O-Q-R-S-T-E-W-X-Y-Z. See, you messed up. What I missed out on? I just, I don't know.

I just... You know what's crazy? The reason I did that, right? They gave me... I was driving once, and I wasn't drunk. I had a drink, but I wasn't drunk. And they told me, they give me all these dumb-ass tess lift your foot up. So they told me to say the alphabet, and they keep saying I'm saying they're wrong.

and I'm like, I'm not saying the alphabet wrong. I'm not saying the wrong. And so they let me go. I go home and I'll speak to my mother. I say, they keep telling me I'm saying the alphabet wrong. So I'm saying it to my mother. And she's like, Kim, you're saying the alphabet wrong. I think, you know, on that L-N-O-P, I was fucking up around that area.

Around that area. Element O B area, I was fucking up on that area. But you definitely got it correct. I was hating, man. Moderator with a D. Yeah. Okay. I guess I've been saying, pause, super pause.

I guess I've been saying it wrong for three years and they choose today to correct me. Thank you though, Beth. Before we went to break, we talked about how the Greek freak is going to lose out in a substantial amount of money for not meeting the 41 game requirement that he needs to get the bonus from Nike.

Greek freak has been injured five times this season. Actually, one time I remember he diagnosed itself four to six weeks. What he said? Oh, I know this one. Grabbed his ankle and said, you know, this is four to six weeks right here. Yeah, this is when trolling goes wrong. Right. And so now he's going to miss out on a substantial amount of money.

And now that he wants to play, it seems like the bucks are saying we're shutting you down for the remainder of the season. Mo, what do you think about this whole scenario and just the Greek freak in my sense? Milwaukee in general. Yeah, I think this is the beginning of the end or the end of the end. I don't know what you call it. I mean, when you have a franchise, I don't care if it's basketball or football, and you're talking about everything but basketball, when you start playing with somebody's money,

when you start playing with their ability to go out there for a handful of more games and make a ton more money, when you have all of these factors and all these variables being paid attention to more than the actual basketball stuff, it's the beginning of the end. I don't know if y'all seen online where Doc Rivers had went to the team and he was trying to explain to the players

who he was and the teams that he took to make him into champions and so on and so forth. And when you start to get into conversations like that and you're talking about everything, but the main thing, it just seems like the beginning of the end. And then, like, you know,

when things break up, it's typically like the straw that broke the camel's back. And I think this would end up being a situation and it isn't really about the money. It's about the principle that people are now playing. with you and doing stuff to you now that they weren't doing before when you were in good terms of them.

So I think it's the beginning of the end. I think that Greek frequent will get dealt somewhere in the offseason. Yeah, that's a perfect way, Mo, to put it, the beginning, the beginning of the end. You got to think about it, Killer and Mo. There was only four more games. You shutting them down with four more games to go and you know he can make substantial amount of money. He's not going to get more. more hurt and four more games. So you could have just allowed him to suit up, be on the bench,

do the layup line, going for a few minutes and come back out just to make sure that he secured that money for him and his family. But if you look at the owners of Milwaukee Bucks, they may be thinking, we've done enough for your family. And if this is how you're going to do us, then we're going to make sure we mess up a little bit of that money because there's only four more games. I'm going to use a phrase my grandmother used to say, this stinks to high heaven. We don't know what that means. You heard that before?

Yeah, you don't know what it means. Yeah. This stinks to high. It's all bad. Yeah. This is billionaire shit. Phil Knight. Probably called the old normal.

Milwaukee luck man I pay this nigga another fucking 40 million he played these games hold that nigga up man didn't he diagnose himself on y'all niggas didn't he tell y'all his self? Yeah shut him down he shut himself down on y'all with his own name of his favor nigga

bring the family out to Portland nigga and all that all that shit fuck you're talking about and now you're a small fish in a big pond when you're dealing with billionaires I think this was totally a call from Phil Knight to somebody in Milwaukee. And you can say, Cameron's conspiracy.

But to Mace's point, you're going to let that man suit up. And get on the lay-up line and get in the game for five to ten minutes. And he said, no, we're shutting you down. They hit the nigger jersey and all that. The nigger couldn't find a warm-up suit and nothing. So I think it's bigger than yonis. And I think, you know, I watched the game over a day. sin got mad because his little brother

threw al-a-ute to his other brother to T-T other, y'allan's other brother. So Milwaukee was blowing out. Nick, we're going to put this clip on during the show, too. Milwaukee was blowing out a tea. And baby, baby into T'coupo threw an al-a-upe to Tee.

And he caught it and dunked it and smacked the backboard got to take. It was nobody down there. And I'm just looking like, yo. It's a damn mess of. over there. And Yonis is on the best like this. Yeah, we killed. Playing pick up ball.

Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yo, they are running a monopoly over there, the into the Coupo family. So to Mesa's point again, we gave you everything, man. If we're going, we're going, at least we could say this. It ain't us, it's Nike. We want to did it to you. You know, I don't know, we ain't got nothing to do with that.

Your brother's here, your little brother's here, your 50s. Families here. We gave you all the money we could give you. What do you want? Listen, we talk about the beginning and I think the beginning of end happened a long time ago. We talk about how they was trying to get him off Milwaukee before the trade deadline. Knowing that did happen, he act like he didn't want to leave and we're going to stay and we got the other brother. Listen, that's a lot of stuff there. I did say Stephen A. Smith and I asked all this before we wrap up.

Stephen A. Smith said that if he was in the New York Knicks, he would get him. give up every last player except for Jalen Brunson. Do you think that Janus will end up in a different team this offseason? And if he does end up with the next, what does the next future look like with somebody like him and Jalen Brunson? Mo will start with you. I heard Stephen A. when he said, I actually like it. I would love to see just Jailen Brunton have another option outside of cats shooting

crazy threes and the people that you have now. And so I don't know if I'll give up all the pieces. you still need more pieces to win. But I think that he will do everything in his power to get to a big market. I think y'all talking about the last week where if you want to be a superstar, and this was in reference to Memphis and I don't really want to go back in that conversation, but you want to be in a big market city. I think that's where Yonis is trying to get to.

I think that's where he wants to go. But I think he's going to end up there. But I think it's somehow, some way, it's still going to be the Knicks. But I think it would be entertainment. We don't think it's going to be the Knicks? Or you said you think it will? said, I think it will be the Knicks. I don't know if it makes the Knicks a championship contender against the Celtics

or when Tari's Taliburton comes back to Indiana. I just don't know if they can get past them, but I think it would be entertaining to have Janice and Jeline Brunton playing in New York. I think that would be exciting to see. Yeah, I hate to disagree with you, Mo, but I 100% disagree. I think if I had the opportunity, just like Stephen A. said, I can understand why you would get rid of everybody in organization for Janice as long as you get to keep Jalen Brunson. Yes, because when you think of a city like New York, that won't be a hard place to get people to come and want to play.

You're talking about New York. There's two cities, three cities that people are definitely going to want to play it. New York is one of them. Then you got Miami in Los Angeles. So if you got a place like New York and you already got Janice and you already have Jalen Brunson, the free agency will be so crazy that people will come there for shorties and just play. Why? Because it's in the Mecca.

This is New York City. Everybody brand will become bigger playing in Times Square. His sneakers will sell more. The billboards are bigger. The news is going to be greater. This is the Daily News. This is the New York Post. The only thing trumps this is L.A. Times.

These two are neck and neck. So pause. If you're thinking about what Stephen A. say, 100%. This is the best market. And the day that Yonis goes to the Knicks, his jersey sells out. The tickets go up. You know, front row is going to even cost more. So get ready for the change.

I'm not sure if we'll be Nick fans yet You still got to win We're still not coming Pause Sin I hope you don't think This means we're back Nick fans I'm telling you right now They still got a win

I still wouldn't believe it until they win I wouldn't believe it if they was up four With three seconds If there was any place that something could go wrong New York is it There's a tech somebody is shooting a free throw they're taking the ball back out

balls it's like man the Knicks is the only place that that could happen Caleb no y'all finish it up man very nice job man moe man it was great seeing you this week we're looking forward to seeing you next week

it'll be a week removed from Yukon is my guess Yukon Mo is his new name yeah Yukon Moe will be back I guess it'll be Ohio State Moe back in the building next week man but we always appreciate you brother Yeah, we're calling you Yukon Moe until next season.

You're going to have to wear that. All summer, Yukon Mo. I got you in my phone right now. It's Yukon Mo. I'll take it. I'll be out there at the end of the month, too. I'm going to come up with my Yukon gear on. I want to come out there at the end of the month.

All right, man. We're looking forward to see you, man. Hi, Yukon. Thank you, as always, Mo. Thank you for tuning in. And as always, it is what it is. Please.