IT IS WHAT IT IS - YE HAD SOMETHINGS TO SAY ABOUT KILLA, EDWARDS SNAPS ON THE LAKERS & SHEDEUR SANDERS DRAFT DRAMA!

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, Ye is bugging and had somethings to say about Cam'ron, Pistons lose on a controversial call at the end vs. the Knicks, Edwards has a monster game to push the LA Lakers to the brink of elimination, Green vs. Green fiasco in the Houston Golden State series and we try to figure out WTF happened to Shedeur Sanders this weekend at the NFL Draft?! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app.

Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. Murder was good. How you doing today, man? Chilling, man. Chilling, man.

Chilling, chilling. That's what's up. That's what's up. What you got going on? Now, what's up with your son, man? You stole your son. That's my nephew. You know, that's the son of my nephew now.

Get your son under control, man. What we doing with him? Is he disowned or are you gonna have a talk with him? I'm gonna have a talk with him. I'm gonna have to have a talk with him. All right, so we not disowning him? Nah, I'm not, not just yet. Not just yet. I'm gonna fly to California tomorrow, man. All right, all right.

See where he's at, man, cause we gotta talk, man. I don't like what I'm hearing. All right, nah, that's all good. You hear what he said about you? Yeah, that's why I'm talking to you. Hey. Cause I don't usually talk to niggas who suck dick.

Once they suck dick, I don't go back. I don't go back and forth once you admit you suck dick. That's just me. That's what I'm trying to figure out. That's what I'm trying to figure out. That's what I'm trying to figure out. What do we do? That's what I'm asking.

If you're giving them a pass. I can't give them no pass. Yeah, I'm not going back. I'm not going back. I'm not going back. I'm not going back. I'm not going back. I'm not going back.

I'm not going back. I'm not going back. I'm not going back. I'm not if I know how you stand on business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know we had it was on. What's it called? Intervention. If you was going to have a. Trying to have the intervention, but you know, I can't stand. All right. It might have been a phase. a bit of face.

So what Cam is saying is that his whole face is off. He can have his whole face deleted. Listen. Dre said. No, you could delete being a hoe with Dre said, but Dre ain't a man who suck dick. That's what I'm saying. Listen, if you like it, I love it. I'm following your lead on this. This is uncharted territory.

These are conversations we never had in hip hop. This is uncharted territory. Please forgive me for all my responses. I don't know what to say on this. I gotta pray. Oh man. All right. Oh real man. All right. Real quick, just for context, can I read what he said?

The audience is probably like, but what did he say? Because I want you guys reaction. So yay. In a deleted tweet, he said, how can Sam doing anything bad for Chicago? Chicago loves me. I love Cam. It's niggas like you that had me shook to release the song. But I ain't scared of y'all type of niggas. And thank you for making Dipset. You're a god and fuck you by the way. And I got on my $2 million Dipset belt as I tweet. Yeah, that's why I asked them like what, because you know I usually hear do stuff like this. This is why I'm asking you. What is this doing your son because it's my nephew that's why I'm asking you. Is this still your son? Cause this is my nephew.

That's why I'm asking you. What are we doing with this? Do we leave it alone? I'm gonna leave it alone till May Suggs be what I have to do. That's all I can say, man. I'm leaving alone, man. Okay. Okay. So let's alone, man. Okay.

So let's start with the Knicks. So they take a three and one lead after beating the Pistons 94 to 93 after a pretty controversial ending. So the game's crew chief admitted that a foul should have been called on Josh Hart. The report says during live play, it was judged that Josh Hart made a legal defensive play after post game review. We observed that Hart makes body contact that is more than marginal to Hardaway Jr. And a foul should have been called Mace.

What was your opinion on the ending? And then how do you feel about that report at the end? When it comes to the Knicks, I'm just happy. So many decades, things pause, I've swung in the wrong direction for the Knicks. So finally something goes their way. We got it. We got to let this happen. This is like, this is like the rest making up for decades, you know, for all

of us, Nick fans, you know, this is, this is a great moment. I didn't mean to say us, Nick. You already said it. It was set. Bring out the jacket too. Look at that. You know? Lakers up, Lakers down, 3-1, Knicks up, 3-1 now, us Knicks fans.

It's crazy. Nah, I was just talking to Sin City. So I was just... Knicks definitely ain't my team. You know, I was just trying to show some love. But, you know, when it went stuff like this happened, I remember, you know, you and missing a layup and Charles Oakley getting fouled and John Starks getting foul.

So all these decades, you know, the Knicks have been on the opposite side of that same kind of call. So finally this decade, the basketball guards made sure, you know, we got a call. So finally this decade the basketball guards made sure you know we got a call. Yeah listen man uh what I say before I actually get to the game y'all the referee commission and all that y'all might as well not say shit bro why even say this to stir people up I know you have a job to do and admit right from wrong and so on and so forth but you sit there and admit that a foul should have been called and a game for Where the Knicks are up 2 to 1 and could potentially go up 3 to 1 and you admit you don't call a foul

All this is you can't get it back. It ain't no do-overs Asari's not gonna cut it, especially if Detroit goes home next game. A sorry's not gonna cut it. Why even say anything? Now, like I said, the people have a right to know that y'all messed up. I get it. But I would just, I mean, I don't know the obligations, what they have to admit publicly and what they don't have to admit.

I know, I'm pretty sure that it's part of the contracts. Whatever, however, play association works with, whatever it is, they had to do that because I'm pretty sure they didn't want to admit that. Now that's that. But back to the actual game, listen, these playoffs, the referees are letting niggas play. I like it. The referees are letting little head checks go, no tiki-tak fouls. Niggas is playing from beginning to end and I like the fact that they're letting niggas play. Now, at the end of the game, Cade Cunningham, two turnovers, crucial turnovers with time winding down. Not only that, you're down before this foul even happened.

Cade Cunningham got the matchup that he wanted, got to the spot where he wanted to shoot, had room, foul line, jump shot, ball went in and out. He missed. Your superstar had a chance to be a superstar and didn't finish as a superstar. He had a great game, but when it was superstar against superstar, we got to go with

Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson put on a show. He has 30 points each of these four playoff games so far, and at the beginning of this series, people talking about is the best player on the 4K, cutting him the best player on the 4K, cuttingunningham? The best player on the 4K, Cunningham? Even me, I'm thinking mates, possibly, K. Cunningham could be the best player in this series. Not so far. It's been Jalen Brunson, and he's proven it game after game after game.

He got hurt in the third, actually came back in the fourth quarter to bust the Pistons ass in the fourth quarter. But you know who else showed up? Kat showed up. And when Cat shows up, most of the time, I have run over 25 points and Jaylen Brunson gets in the 30s. It's going to equal a win for the next.

They put on a great performance. I thought this game spectacular. I think it's one of the best series going on so far outside of that. Houston Rockets and not part of me. Houston Rockets go to the state is good. But the best series in the first round to me is definitely Denver and the Clippers. That series is fucking wild, but this is a great, great series. The Knicks pulled it out and congratulations to the Knicks.

Ain't really nothing more to say. I could talk about the Tiki Tech foul, but the opportunity was there for Kay Cunningham, two turnovers in the final couple of minutes, and you had your shot to actually go up? Appointed to and it would have been about four or five seconds left The Knicks would have got the ball and they would have had an opportunity to win the game as well But when your superstar makes turnovers and misses the shot, I'm not gonna blame it that ticky-tack foul on the game Congratulations to the Knicks. Yeah, and if you got an if you got somebody to get 20, 32 and 11, you're definitely not supposed to win if you let a point guard get 32 and 11.

That's just basketball IQ. And then then you got Kat get almost getting a triple double, not just 25 points, but eight and nine added to that. So they definitely wasn't supposed to win. I don't know why they so confused about that. Worry about it as well as this this stuff. And this is this part of reason when they be like, Yo, Mason Kim always hang on in New York, makes care of them niggas. Why are you in New

York? It is listen, it isn't this team. It's the franchise. Just been going on before these Nick players was born. Before they have this team was even born, most like the outside niggas like my nigga PJ Tucker, who's a little older. This been going on before y'all was born, these Nick niggas, not y'all, the Nick franchise been letting niggas down. I don't understand what's wrong with niggas math. The last time the Knicks won was 1973.

We wasn't alive. We haven't seen it. The Knicks and the Jets are the only franchises in New York we have yet to see when we seen the Mets win, when there was the cocaine, the original Coke Boys, Dallas Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, we seen the Yankees win, we seen the Giants win. I'm not gonna count the Nets because the Nets was in Jersey and they even got

to the championship, they didn't win either, but they kind of knew in New York. We've seen everybody win. We've seen the Rangers win. You know what I'm saying? So it isn't personal. We're just going off history. Secondly, I am happy that the Knicks are winning and they looking good. But this is what I'm talking about a case study a case study needs to be done on the New York Knicks and Dallas Cowboy fans.

The delusion. It should be a case study on this shit. Because the Knicks are supposed to win this series. Like y'all are the third seed. Detroit is the sixth seed. Detroit has not been in the playoff for however many years. The last time Detroit was favorite to win a playoff game, which they was favorite yesterday, was 17 years ago.

Y'all are supposed to win this series. This is what I'm talking about, cause you know, every time the Knicks win, the crowd, we go crazy. I'm talking about. Cause you know, every time the Knicks win the crowd, we, we, we go crazy. I'm talking about as New Yorkers and as like we won the championship, they got to the second round last year. Then the year before last year, they got to the second round. There's not nothing getting to the second round in recent years. It's getting to now, but I told my niggas since, cause you know since the KnickPin,

is that I'll even get into the Eastern Conference Championship, I'm gonna consider an accomplishment. If the Knicks- Yeah, back to back. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, they ain't get to Eastern Conference. They ain't get to it. They ain't been to Eastern Conference in a minute. That's why I said, getting to Eastern Conference

Championship is a productive progressive season for the next because it's more than that what they've done in recent years. But that shouldn't even be celebrated. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like we're sitting here saying, Nah, nigga, it's accomplishment we made to the Eastern Conference finals. Go to the championship. Now real accomplishment is getting to the motherfucking championship. But that's an accomplishment. Not even winning.

Think of the things that we thinking about as accomplishments. Oh man, they'll kill them if they get to East Coast Final. Championship is crazy. Now, if you want it, that's the real goal. But what do they say? We building, we build. How long do it take to build?

God damn, it's been 52 years. This is the reason why we go hard on the Knicks is for disappointment throughout the years and the heartache and the pain and the turmoil. It's frustrating year after year. We hope that they win. Yeah, we do. Is it likely?

I don't know. There are good and other good series we're probably going to get to. It's Boston and Orlando. We'll talk about that when it's time to talk about it. But what do you think if the Knicks have to play Boston? This is why Knicks fans be frustrated, because you all just brought them so up and congratulated them. It was like, yeah, but you know who you have to face next, which is the truth.

But damn, because they do say, can we get some love? Can we get some praise? You all get half of it. They do get praise. But if there was one team that could lose a three, one league. This is it. It's New York. It's somebody that's not secure with a three, one league. You just don't know what could happen.

Somebody get arrested. Something happens. You just like, we wouldn't be surprised. We wouldn't be surprised. This is what I'm trying to say is such a, listen, this is what I'm saying. That niggas is so hype and going crazy outside the garden when the Knicks play out at Masters Green Guard

and they're excited for shit that's supposed to happen. This, y'all are supposed, y'all in a three seed. They're playing the six seed. Supposed to win. And then they'll say we jinxed it. But this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the four. That's a fact. That's a fact. They'll definitely say we jinxed it. For sure. Well, we will see what happens moving along. So the Lakers lost to the Timberwolves 116 to 113.

Minnesota is leading the series three and one. Mace, is this what you expected? And then do you think the Timberwolves were being overlooked in the West? I always said, you know, that that Ant-Man, Ant-Man would will make the difference in this series. I knew they had Luca and this was their best opportunity. But it just it just looked like Ant-Man have decided for LeBron and Ant-Man has decided for Luca that y'all going home is I'm making this call.

It's an OG call and I'm making it. Yeah, I think it's just out of here. And I like when players, you know, pause, get to the point where they say, I'm going to decide this. I'm not leaving this up to nobody else. He comes out and get 42 points. You got to go bare ball and and for a moment, it looked like LeBron was going so crazy. But then it just it just turned into like young pause, young, fresh legs.

Like they came to do what they came to do. And they're not ready to let Luca win a championship, not just yet. That's what it just looks like. You know, some time I get like that. Now you talk about a three one league. I bet you the Lakers don't come back, but the Knicks could lose this league before the Lakers would come back. Is that type of party? I know Brian B Allen sitting there, you know B. Zo

He kind of he tight about Paul's what's going on? But you know, like it's got another year. Maybe not with LeBron. Maybe this is why they need to bring Bronte up Bring Bronte up and let's go crazy Brwny or bring him that good luck maybe they win be though wasn't the lakers his team with you in the future i'm sure you're fair this is crazy you think you said nigga started off his take and said i always say it would be the one in this series. Like what? What are you talking about? No bro, I always said Ant-Man to be the one in this series. I did say that. Yo bro. I now it's maybe LeBron doesn't need to.

What? What? Maybe Bronnie needs to take over the team instead of LeBron. You know we can see you, right? It's a room full of people in here that can see you. Like you act like you're doing this and we can't see you. Everybody sees you in here, man. The Lakers was your team when the season, when the playoff started.

Before the before the playoff, there was my team. But the title town always moves. It stays on the move. That's that's why they call it title town. That's why it's not in Boston. That's why it's not in Mexico. That's why it's not in New York. Title town stays on the move.

It moves with the champions. It moves with the winners. That's it's a mindset. It's not a place. So to your point, it should be in Boston. Not just yet is always on the move. That's what I'm trying to give you the theology behind title town, you know, is on the move.

And if they show us something different, we move title town like anything else they, you know, I like this was his team when the season when this playoff started, I don't know what title town to do with either one of these teams. Neither one don't want to title anytime recently. Lakers they want to title like four or five years. I don't know if Minnesota is a franchise ever won the title.

Now that I think about it, I was title. Are we talking about May spinning us with title? Nobody mentioned that. Now we just said who is your team before the playoff start? Titletown wasn't even involved in this combo. All right, we get an eight minutes to one. Yo, what, all right? All right.

Titletown came out of nowhere. Titletown, niggas said, I don't like to be wrong. That's wild. But um, listen, man, uh, I think Stats Access, I said, who was, after I seen the first game and I seen how dominant that Minnesota was, even though they shot 50% from three point range in that first game and I was playing, they said, I'm going to shoot that good in the series. I thought Minnesota looked hungry, athletic, and I was like, they going to kick the Lakers ass. I thought Minnesota look hungry athletic and I was like they gonna kick the Lakers ass, but then the Lakers came back

And they look really really good a game too. And I'm like, yo, this might just really really be a series the Minnesota one made it to one and Listen that game last night was a great game. It was an exceptional game Ant-man like me said he said I'm gonna take control of this and put the game in my hands. But let's not act like Luca. I have 38. Let's act like Lebron wasn't out there doing everything in his power. Now, look, he only shot nine times, but he's 15 from 18 from the field from field goal.

He defensive plays. Diva Diva Tenzo was coming to the basket. Niggas swatted this shit like he was 26 years old. Came out of nowhere, punched this shit. Even the last play, well not the very last play, the play that decide the game. You got Ant-Man going to the basket. LeBron swipes it out his hand, hits off his legs, it goes out of bounds. They challenge it. The Lakers would have had the ball up one, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not for sure what it would have been.

But instead of it going out of bounds, they challenge it and turn it into a foul. Now look, we got somebody challenging, turn it into a foul to make the Timberwolves go up. And then we get a no call call in Detroit. The balance is all over the place with the fucking referee and B. They really did. But the role players played they role.

Julius Randall did what he had to do. Nasri came in and did what he had to do. Daniel, yo listen, Minnesota is well balanced. I liked even Chenzo, he didn't shoot particularly that well but he came in off the bench and had some productive minutes. I like this Minnesota team. I really do. We'll see what happens next game because I'm not going to count the Lakers out

because this was a great game. You don't get that challenge and the challenge be successful for Minnesota. We're talking about a 2-2 series lead. Lastly, I'll say this, J.J. Reddick, you've done an exceptional job as a coach this season. And I know that you want to win bad, but you cannot run LeBron James into the ground like this.

He played 46 minutes, B. It's 48 minutes in the motherfucking game. You got to make sure, however you balance it out, that LeBron has plenty of energy the last seven minutes of the game. You gotta make sure he has a lot of energy, seven, eight minutes left in the game. You played Luca and LeBron for 24 minutes straight.

Luca's, now listen, let's think about this. Luca's very young, still young, but we know he's never in shape. We know he's never in shape. This is part of the reason that Dallas, quote unquote, which I don't think was a reason to get rid of him, they were complaining. He was gaffed. He's the young, he's the oldest 26 year old I ever seen in my motherfucking life, especially on defense. He's great and he's slow as fuck on offense, but there's just nothing you can do about it. Liability on defense.

Niggas see Luka guarding them, their eyes get wide, paws and they get excited and they ready to go to the basket because they know that he can't guard them. So I see JJ Reddick trying to throw up different defensive packages, so on and so forth, and disguise Luka in the defense. But he's a liability on defense. But you gotta give them two niggas some rest. Yeah, pardon me. You gotta give them niggas some rest, B.

Because at the end of the day, LeBron looked a little tired. He looked tired at the end of the day. And he's 40 years old out there doing everything, nigga. Blocking shots, swiping the ball away, scoring when needed to be be hitting three pointers. Yo, I can't, I can't give n**** enough credit. JJ Reddick, get that man some rest. So the last seven or eight minutes, you got a fresh LeBron James going into the end of the game.

So you kind of answered my next question because LeBron's facing a lot of blame for not scoring any points in the fourth quarter. How do you guys feel about that? Or to Cam's point, you'd be like, there's just too much pressure on him. I don't think it's too much pressure. I'm look at the end of the day, we got to think about this. Like Bezo was Bezo was talking to before the show started today. They like LeBron got to be Kobe. He got to build Kobe if they want to win.

And I'm like, yeah, but Kobe wasn't 40 being Kobe. Kobe fucking started breaking down and was like, I quit. Like Kobe, because Kobe always been running on people before he got started getting the injuries and getting older. He said, I'm not going to be a person who averages 15, 16 points in the league when I can't do it anymore. I'm leaving and his body started breaking down, started getting some injuries, so on and so forth.

But we wasn't even expecting Kobe to be the Kobe he was at 35 years old. We got a 40 year old nigga that niggas want to be Kobe? In his prime? I get it. Go Kobe if you got to, but niggas, he's 40. I already think he's doing everything a nigga that 40 years old could possibly do. Nigga said, do more.

It's not enough. I understand you motherfucking had 28 points and you was tired at the end of the game. You still didn't score nigga. What have you done for me lately? Give me more, Braun. Give me more. That's what niggas want as Laker fans, but I get it. But at the end of the day, you traded for Luca, and this

is the reason he's supposed to carry you, but he's not getting any rest. Where the fuck are you, Austin Reese? That's what they need. They need you to step up. They need somebody else to step up. And they had some key players that did decent yesterday. Like I said, this was not a blowout by any stretch of imagination. It's a great game. But you have to have other players that stop saying, brown, brown, brown, even though, you know, he gets the glory, he's going to get the blame too. But let's be realistic. Forty. And then Mase, what's your take on that?

Yeah, if if Luke, if Luca has 38 killer, how is he not helping Braun? I mean, defensively, he's a liability. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. Because Reeves had Reeves has 17, but that's not enough. He's six foot four. I mean, six foot 14 from the field. That's not going to cut it. He was also scoreless in the first half. Yeah.

No, that's what I'm about to read. And that's definitely not going to do it when you're normally getting 20. And these are the seven points, the six points that you need. You need, you need to be able to get the ball. read and that's definitely not going to do it when you're normally getting 20. And these are the seven points, the six points that you need. You need you need a person not to play one half of the game. And all of that goes into the schemes that, you know, he got a hit shots because it wasn't like he didn't get shots in the first half. He just wasn't making them.

And when they go in against this type of Minnesota team, they're not going to lay down right now. They smell blood in the water. You know, pause. They think they got this. So they're going to act like it. They're going to get more aggressive. And when it comes to this Laker team, I think this was a game they definitely could have won.

Like, this is not a game they should have lost. Like we was talking about earlier, Kill stated it should be two to it. Definitely should be two to. But when you got people making defensive plays at the end of the game, that tells you who wants to game more than the other one. I think in former years, people just used to be scared of brawn and they just lay down and right now they're not doing that. And that's that's just what we're seeing.

So I look forward to Lakers being out next game. They're out of here. I don't think they get the next game. I think it's a gentleman sweep, you know, the way you get the hug, LeBron, the whisper in his ear. And I'm saying you had your turn, big dog. Yeah. And man is being wild. Disrespect. We see them pushing brawn and all that.

Wow. They like pushing them half court niggas is like, yo, this niggas. Wow, man. But I like that. I like playoff competition. I like his attitude, man. He's very disrespectful to the older niggas. You know, he took shit to KD last year.

Now seem like he aiming at brawn. But I'm not comparing them to anybody, but we see niggas piss Braun off before. Yeah. And LeBron go crazy. LeBron, I believe he's one in five or one in six when he's down. Three games to one. Thank you, B. When he's down three games to one. But I'll tell you this much is that I love this Minnesota team. I really do. And I know we talking about seven, eight, nine years ago. But when he did come back from a deficit of three to one, it was the Golden State Warriors.

And I think that Golden State Warrior team is better than this Minnesota team currently constructed. But we'll see what happens. Like I said, age came into play. Like I said, that was nine years ago and you got a young fresh superstar ready to go. Not only that, you got younger role players that's ready to put, they do their part as well.

Are you saying he's coming back from this league? I didn't say that. I said, he's done it before. I don't see that. No, I actually, I actually picked Minnesota when the series makes. When the Lakers was your team. I agree. I'm happy we're on the same page. Don't bring up Title Tag because Title Tag has nothing to do with this. I agree. I concur. This is why I stamp y'all's answers so we can compare as the games go.

So when we get to this next Mace, we will, we'll cut back. I'm saying that the Lakers are out next game. Yeah, now. I asked you this three days ago. I switched your hair. Three games ago. I was switching up. I ain't switching up. Just gonna change the color. You're switching up.

Doesn't mean that the truth ain't the truth. Just checking. Tidal Town be on the move. Like that, you know? This man told me I don't like to be wrong as well. I couldn't even. Yo, after we finished the, after we finished the motherfucking show that day,

I said, but who likes being wrong? I never heard another nigga say who like being wrong. Nobody likes it. Niggas say, yeah, you right, I was wrong. And be cool with it. Especially Harlem nigga, nigga Harlem nigga gonna fight to the end. That's what title town is on the move, you know.

Got to have a way out. OK. So the Rockets lose to the Warriors 104 to 93, even without Jimmy Butler. So Draymond actually picked on Jalen Green at the end of the game, basically monitoring for him to go paint his nails. Jalen Green spoke on the exchange after and he said he was just talking. He can't really do much of anything else. So talking is his only way. So, Ace, what do you feel about those comments Jalen Green made on Draymond Green?

And how do you feel about the game? That's sad. That's sad. You can't you can't have like, you know, young niggas being that disrespectful now, Draymond telling you to paint your nails. Maybe you need to be yoked up. Pause. Maybe need what you gave go there. You know, next time Lord Jordan Poole in there, you know, not saying you should. I say you should, but I wouldn't be surprised. But Jalen Green don't look like he's, you know, that he might go for that, you know? But we'll see. I think I think, you know, Golden State is playing the way they should play.

I think it's surprising that you got a young Rockets team that's allowing this to happen. I think they better get a game or they definitely in trouble. Like, wouldn't it be crazy if these other series all turn three one? Golden State should not be running through Eudoka, how he says his name?

Yeah. Emey Eudoka. Emey Eudoka, his team should not be down two one. They should definitely be up, not three zero, but they should be the other way around. They should be up to one. You can't be letting these old niggas beat up on on young players, especially when you got five power on the on the perimeter. You got good front court play.

It just doesn't make sense. I can't give all that to Stephen Curry. The white lady has some big titties. My bad, brother. Thing about it is this. If you getting your nails painted, don't get that mad about it. All he did was say, yo, go get your fingernails done.

Yo, your nails is painted on the court. This is what I'm saying. This is the shit I'm talking about. And I ain't just talking about Jalen Green. Just talking about in general, the last few weeks, maybe the last month or two when I bring up shit, and I'm not talking about Jalen Green. When I bring up shit that niggas do,

And I'm not talking about J. Lingering. When I bring up shit that niggas do, niggas get mad at me for observing the shit that you do. How are you mad at me? Cause you want the world to see that you do something. Then I acknowledge what you do. Now you mad at me or I'm a sucker or watch this or this, that and the third audit. You wanted people to see this. And then when niggas mention

what you did, that they see it, you get an attitude with the niggas who see what you see. So Draymond Green says, fuck out of here, go get your nails done. Now you want to fight them? Cause your nails is painted? Nah, now I get it. Fr it frustration, y'all lost, so on and so forth, everything else. Look, I understand that, I dig it. But you can't get mad at that. You on the court literally with your nails painted, you said, fuck, I'll go get your nails done. Are you mad?

Secondly, that's first, I don't think that, you know, like I said, there's maybe as a personal hate for Draymond, maybe it's something else, but you can't get mad at that statement if he mentions your pain and nails just my personal opinion Next this ain't the game for you to say Draymond can be doing done that on right now She just be talking you had nine Yes, seven. Yeah, Draymond has seven and you had nine. This ain't the game we talking about with Draymond doing

what Draymond don't do, because you didn't do anything. You didn't get double digits. How you telling the nigga what he doing and can't do? Yeah, four for 11. Yes, so the point being is, this wasn't the game to say niggas just be talking, because listen, let me tell you something. Draymond does a lot of stuff

that doesn't pop up on the stat sheet. It's shit that Draymond does that's no stat for. So if a hard picks, pause, diving for the ball, it's no hockey goalie assist, even though he gets credit for a lot of assists. A lot of people don't know,'s I mean not point not people do know he's the point for it but a lot of people don't know that Draymond Green leads Golden State franchise in triple doubles no mean niggas came through Golden State pause come to my Mitch Richmond some harder way Chris Webber Billy Owens as Marlon Chris I said Chris Web, but yeah, I've met Chris Mullin as well. Baron Davis, Monte Ellis, it's a list of fabulous players. He leads the franchise in triple doubles. You know how many triple doubles, and I said this before, just to give you an idea, because

triple doubles been going around a lot lately, like it's a frequent thing to do. You know the Greek, not the Greek freak, pardon me, he had a few triple doubles recently too. But after Russell Westbrook averaged a few seasons doing triple doubles, now we got the Joker doing it. Now it seems like it's a lot of triple doubles. So it's not that, like you don't see it that often like we didn't used to do it. But just to give you a context, first ballot Hall of Fame, that's actually going into the Hall of Fame this year, Carmelo Anthony only had two triple doubles his whole career.

Think about that. Because he's an assassin. Carmelo Anthony is an assassin. He's going to the basketball, he's going to the Baja, he's going to score. But I'll just give you an example of, you wouldn't think Draymond Green is leading go to stay triple doubles. Now don't get it fucked up, niggas sitting there say,

well, when you're passing the stuff and you're passing the Klay Thompson, your whole career, of course, you're going to get the triple double. Yeah, but you got to give them the ball too. You got to give them the ball. So, I don't think this was the game for Jalen Green to say that,

but look back to the actual game. Houston didn't play well. You lost this game and Jimmy Butler didn't play. Let's keep that in context as well. The game you did when he got hurt. So right now you could potentially be damn 03. Fuck is going on.

You know what I'm saying? This is a two seat. This is niggas who was talking shit. When uh, at All-Star break when Draymond Green's like, yeah, when we win the championship this year and then Jimmy Butler said after game one, stuff gonna be the reason we won the championship. The bench looked really good. You got Buddy Hill shooting good.

You got Gabby Payton coming off the bench looking good. I believe one at 14, one at 17. They look really good. And then you get Jimmy Butler potentially back next game. We'll see what happens. Houston played poorly. 36 from gold from stuff. Curry games equals this.

Good night. We'll see what happens next game. For sure. So the next game is two night, the Rockets versus the Warriors underdog has Steph at 27 and a half points. Give him higher or lower Mace. Definitely, we're going higher. Definitely.

Yeah, Steph is in his zone right now. He's feeling good. I think that he loves playing against this Houston Rocket team, not just this particular team organization. I think he averages the most playoff points against any team in his career is against Houston. The most points against any team in the playoffs, points, you know, points, average points per

game is against Houston. I'm definitely going higher. Okay. Jimmy Butler's at five and a half assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Cam? I'm going to go lower because it's not guaranteed that he'll get a lot of minutes. I think that they'll play him if needed, because if they win,

they got a long another long series ahead of them. I'm going to go lower purely for the fact that I don't think he'll get a lot of minutes, especially if Golden State establishes a good lead. Yeah, I'll go. I'm going to go low as well. I think five is even if he was passing, it's probably as high as he would get a person like him. Okay. And Jaylen Green is at 26 and a half point three pounds and a higher.

I can't help it now. Do you have a higher or lower base? This is tricky. You know, this is tricky because with the nail polish situation, he might come back next game with a vengeance. But what's the chances? What's the chances? You know, it looked like he really wanted to fight. So so it looked like he really, really wanted to smoke with Dre Mar.

So I'm going to go higher. I'm going to go higher. The young boy gets his name back to tonight. And what's the number stat? Yeah, 26 and a half points rebounds in assists. He should have more than that point. Look, they're gonna need that from you, Jalen Green, to win. And there should be at least 25 points minimum. They're gonna need that from you. Listen, if nobody told you, you are the superstar for this team. You are the Ant Man for Minnesota.

Now, we know y'all got some key good players and role players and you have an outstanding coach. You have to be Ant Man. You have to be John Moran. You have to be Jalen Brunson. You have to be the person for this team to win in order for them to win. I mean, you have to be that nigga on to be the person for this team to win in order for them to win. I mean, you have to be that n***a on this team in order for your team to win. Take

that into consideration. Nine points from the superstar that you're supposed to be at least all star. I don't know if we're going to give you superstar yet. All star that you are. You have to get at least 20 to 25, if not 30 points to start winning these series. That's just what it has to be. I'm going to go higher. OK, we will see what happens, but make sure you download the underdog app and you can make your picks too. So what is the Browns game plan with Shador Sanders?

We will discuss after the break. Welcome back. So I think in the draft, this is a pick that everybody was waiting for. So Chidora Sanders gets drafted as the 144th pick to the Cleveland Browns in the fifth round. So before we get into more details, first, Mase, what was your reaction to him kind of falling that low? Um, with, with Shador falling that low, I thought, I thought it was all calculated. I thought it was definitely. Cause spare see, I thought that it came across like a lot of owners were involved to say, we're not going to do this.

So, you know, people say kill two birds with two with one stone. I think they kill like five birds with one stone. The first thing I think this is about, I mean, which most people know is is about this is about Dion. But even more intricate than that, I think is more about trying. I'm going to give you something that people normally wouldn't say. There's some time people do stuff like this to turn a son against the father, make them feel like, well, Dion got this money and now look at you.

So what worked for him doesn't work for you and kind of have you think in a certain way. I pray that doesn't happen. But that's a lot of times what people do, they try to divide and conquer. So that's those the first two things I saw. Then you have rumors out there what people are saying. I don't buy any of that, that that the kids are diva. They try to say all of these things about it. But I think overall, if somebody could go in the top five picks

and they end up in the fifth round, clearly something happened. Even I want to throw another thing on the table. We've been talking all the last two years about how good Shidori is and how him and Tom Brady was like this. So now when it comes down to Vegas and Vegas doesn't pick them, then you got to wonder what was really going on here? Is this is this because if this is a protege and this is somebody you've been training or been helping out? well, I don't know exactly what what that relationship is like.

But when you think somebody have tentacles connected to this person and been working with this person that much, if he comes available and you're now a new owner, when you kind of put those two together, because now this is a person you've been working on. So is a is a lot of red flags and questionable behavior. And I just thought that it was it was just a slight at at as you're doing, I definitely didn't like it. I didn't even like the trolling.

I don't like that. I don't believe like certain people control certain people, especially. It shouldn't be no white people trolling black people, just period. Just that, that don't work. Yeah. I'll say this. Like I said, it's one thing you, you're a month and a half ago. This is the top projected top three pick top five pick.

Then we get closer and closer and closer it was from one from a three to a nine to 21 for Pittsburgh then he'll go late in the first then the second round coming the second round don't come in the third round coming on four now it's like yo the fuck is going on because now it doesn't seem this is what I'm talking about. Same thing happened with Tio. To me personally, the NFL is not based on shit off talent. If you're based on talent, you're not going to say it was a hundred forty two hundred forty three niggas better than the nigga. Period. This was personal. I think that Dion says some things like he didn't want his son

to go to a few different teams and them niggas all talk like who is Dion to say XYZ, etc. But when Archie Manning did it, when Eli Manning did it, when Eli Manning, it was all good. Well Archie Manning said, who's Eli and Peyton's father, not Archie Manning for the plays in Texas, Archie Manning who plays in Texas, grandfather name is Archie, just to be clear to the audience. Archie Manning Sr., which I will say is Eli Payton's father. And when Eli came to the NFL, he said, Eli will not play for no West Coast teams. And he didn't.

He ended up going to the Giants, but he basically said that. And D.R. kind of said something similar, not to that effect, but they was like, oh, you're not the Manning family yet. It's Sanders. And we're going to teach you guys a lesson because listen, after after a Shador ended up going to Cleveland, it seemed like, okay, cool as I, you know, I bet because a bunch of other Colorado players started getting picked, not just pick after

the draft was over signing deals, like shout to Shiloh as well, ended up signing with Tampa Bay. And then you had other teams with North Carolina. It's like six players from Colorado that ended up either getting drafted in the sixth round or doing deals after the draft was over. That's what it seemed like. All right, cool. We could get niggas now. I bet. Cause if that's the case, why you why you ain't picked shallow earlier if you needed the defensive back Like to me the whole shit was rigged and it looked rigged Well, let me say this lastly because I don't know what else we're stats gonna bring out with it because you know We have prank phone calls going on or type of shit, but you know how ridiculous it gets

Now ridiculous the situation is? When the President of the United States says, what the fuck are you doing NFL? Now y'all bugging. You don't get Shaddur Sanders by now? This is crazy. This is the President of the United States. Donald Trump advocating for DeHunt and Shaddur, which I thought was spectacular. But then when Trump said, the next day he get picked, well, what are we doing? What are we doing here? The shit is, what are we doing? Shit is wild.

Shit is wild. And it was unnecessary and uncalled for. I don't know if we even gonna talk about it, but if we are, I'll set it off right now, just to say that the nephew or son or whoever that was for the Atlanta Hawks, who it is defensive coordinator defensive coordinator for the Atlanta Hawks son prank's called prank phone calls should door act like Falcons I'm sorry thank you for the Falcons the defensive coordinator for the Falcons, pardon me everybody, prank calls Shador and says,

they acts like he's a GM and then takes away from his moment knowing the niggas probably going crazy. He was as smooth as you could be, conducted itself well, but I know if that's me, I woulda did same thing, but inside I'm like fuck is going on. Then you get the call and you think is one of the fucking GMs and you playing games. What is going to happen with this situation? I don't know what I'm saying is do you press charge? I don't know. I don't know what the I don't know if it's a crime. Do you fire the nigga for being a defensive corner? What's that?

What is the fucking penalty for doing that to somebody playing with somebody like that? It was a fucked up weekend, man. It was fucked up. But somebody, playing with somebody like that. It was a fucked up weekend, man. It was fucked up. But listen, he's with a team. He got a chance to go show and prove, and we'll see what happens in Cleveland. He might not even stay in Cleveland.

Cleveland have five quarterbacks. What Cleveland does have is some good leverage for a team that needs a quarterback. And I'm not saying they would get rid of Shador, but they have some pieces that, when it gets closer to the season and the team don't have a definitive quarterback, they are five quarterbacks that they can make some deals for. How much how much money do you think

should do a loss with slipping a fifth round? A lot. A whole lot. About 30. Oh, would you say 30 or 40? About 40. Wow. And this is this is crazy because is it true? I know there's been rumors and reports about the other son when they got a different agent. No, there was this plan. Oh, there was this plan. Yeah. Oh,

that was yeah, they made a joke that because they was accent they did a live stream on Twitch and they was asking who was their agent and Shiloh was like, it was our dad, but it doesn't look like it's working out right now with him. So, but it was, it was a joke. He wasn't serious. Yeah. That's how you know, it was that's that I think that that's what made it so personal. You know, when people got, people hire you based upon who's your agent. And we know that that's, that's relationships, you know, when people got, people hire you based upon who's your agent. And we know that that's, that's relationships, you know, and when a person is mad with someone that's handling a business and make people feel

like that I'm not going to give him the opportunity because he came in with him. And this is a real learning lesson for a lot, a lot of people. I think, I think that the whole family, to be honest with you, because the way this went down this week and this last thing they was expecting, handled it well. They joked around. I don't know if you see when Travis Hunter's little brother was on the live stream with Shiloh, he was like in the last pick in the draft. And he said Shiloh's name.

Like they they made a joke out of it, but still was very classy about it. Handled things the right way, but they wasn't proud and they wasn't frowning. Uh, they wasn't complaining and it was a family situation. It wasn't just a Shidora situation. So I thought they had a way should do. I even spoke about it. He's like, you know, before something great happen, things go awry. You know, that's what's supposed to happen. Anybody that's ever achieved anything great, they

went through something tumultuous right before that. I mean, you you've had great success, killer. You know what it was like before? Absolutely. You went on a level that you got to, you know, and everybody go through the same thing. So how hard are y'all niggas? You know, greatness comes this way. Oh, so if somebody thinking, well, they just put them in a fire, you know, with that do the goal, it just purified and improve what kind of goal it is. You know, so I'm I'm excited to see what the future holds

because he was very poised under this kind of bad news, you know, and that's that's a great sign when somebody say you're a diva. Divas don't do well when things go wrong. That's how you know, that's a lot. If you ever get get funny with a chick, that's a diva. She's going to get funny back with you. So that's how we know she does not a diva. For sure. These are all good points.

And it's a good testament to his character. I think the thing that frustrates people the most is how unbothered he was. It's like people were trying to get a reaction as they see him falling. And Mace, I want your opinion on the prank call, too. They're like, let's prank call him because this will be funny. First of all, that was the lamest thing I've ever seen. That's dumb. And I hope that they do face some repercussions for the son who did it,

because it's like, yeah, you can't press charges, but it's like, that should not be okay. And they actually did it to a couple of other players that people were finding out. And it was all recorded. They're all in the back giggling like, that's some funny shit, some lame shit. Nobody wants to see that first.

And I don't want to cut you off, but just to add on to what you said, these phones, from what I'm understanding, are sent personally just for the draft. So therefore they like his phone and everybody has the number. As a defensive coordinator, I don't even know how he got the number, but you should not let your kids have access to these numbers. How are your kids getting access to personal NFL information like this or draft information like this? The NFL Player Association should definitely look into this because to me this is a data breach.

Personally. They should definitely look into it. Sorry, Stapp. No, yeah. It's just, yeah. All that to me is frustrating. Hopefully they figure something out with that. And then even just after the fact like Chador has been celebrating, of course, the media attention is already all eyes on him. They're like, see, really? Like now he's going out to the club like, bro, who's not going to the club in the off season? Like they don't have like this is like the one week break

that they have before they go to the team, start training, all that other stuff like it's OK to celebrate a win. Like this is something that these players have been waiting for their entire life. And then just in general, the family keeping high spirits, because even Shiloh, when Shador was dropping down, he was kind of like, well, dang, if they have Shador here, where are they going to put me? Like, but like, that's a good brother, too. Like, I'm just happy that they all had each other to kind of keep each other's spirits high

because I don't understand why anybody would Celebrate, you know seeing somebody fought like that's weird. The whole thing was weird. Let me look at people real funny It's like people thought that this was cute to like knock down somebody who literally this is the moment They've been waiting for their entire life like that's weird Yeah, and and I see a lot of commentators a lot because you know Mel Kuyper had him high on the board in the draft. But I see so many reporters say, Yo, look, this humble them now. He'll he'll talk about it now. He'll do this now. I bet you this humble. Y'all wasn't there for these meetings that supposedly that he didn't talk well in the

meeting or he wasn't cool in the meeting. Y'all wasn't even there. So how are y'all putting this on him saying, yeah, his conduct to this down the third. This was one I'm not gonna say one, all these people that said should door didn't know how to carry yourself or have poor conduct or so on and so forth. They're anonymous. If they could stand on what they said, they wouldn't be anonymous.

If I had a bad report on somebody and I'm a reporter or beat writer or NFL analyst, and I felt that way, I would just say, that's how I felt. That's what I experienced. But when you start hiding and all that, I'm not jacking. And a lot of these analysts that was over the weekend was like, well,

this is what happens when you don't do this. So this is what happens when you don't do that. Y'all wasn't even there. Y'all going off an anonymous source. Yeah. They said it was a guy from the giants. Um, one of the, one of the personnel up at the giants said when they were working them out, they, they asked him to make a change and he ended in

go over well. So that's kind of where they got that that whole narrative. One of the places they could have got that narrative from. But I think when it comes to I want to focus more on the trolling because this this kind of situation is like it shouldn't happen for a lot of reasons, because if this was someone else, then we would put all of the focus on a dad who works for the organization. Because that's that that is going to link back to your dad. And when that doesn't happen, this is just sending the wrong signal that you could do certain things. I think people that have been in great in great proximity with people and have had problems with people shouldn't be trolling each other because it doesn't come across as trolling.

It come across as a lot of other things. And then last thing I'll say whole time, the sun should know better. He literally plays football in college, too. So I don't get any of it. Y'all needs to do better. This is not funny, but congratulations to everybody who did get chosen. Cause I know that this is one of the biggest moments of you guys' lives. So hope you guys are continuing to celebrate and getting ready for the season.

With that being said, that's all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Get kept What you want, nigga? Everything nigga supersized Two big necks Like when they doin' them two for five