It’s Wednesday My Dudes - Ep. 10: Fireworks, Aliens, and Zak being Hot and Cold

Episode Date: March 24, 2021

Zak is back on as a permanent host! Asking the hard questions about which gatorade flavor is the best. We get into Riff Raffs brother being on the Bachelorette, the first episode of Falcon and WInter ...Soldier featuring UFCs best welterweight, Georges St. Pierre, we break down Katy Perrys biggest hits into our tier lists, and Zak tells us how to not slide into a girls DMs. Timestamps: 0:00:00 - 0:08:54 - Intro, Gatorade Debate, Bachelor News 0:08:54 - 0:23:51 - Falcon/Winter Soldier Ep. 1 0:23:51 - 1:14:01 - Katy Perry Tier List 1:14:01 - 1:24:14 - Zak Love Advice Follow us on Twitter @IWMD_Pod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It is Wednesday, my dudes. And we're back. It's another Wednesday with the dudes. Same lineup as last week. We got Rooks, Preston, Darlin. How you doing? How is it going? Sorry.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I already talked to you. We got Zaddy Daddy back, not as a guest, a little permanent host now. Got a little promotion. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. We've been doing our recruiting out here. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We were looking at prospects, you know. We made some phone calls. We found the right fit, called him in. Welcome to the big leagues, Chief. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. And give a little foreshadowing for today's episode. I just wanted to ask if, you know, do you ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind wanting to start again?
Starting point is 00:00:53 Dave, our margarita's gay. You bet your sweet ass I feel like that help ingratiate myself with you guys. What's your favorite type of Gatorade? Ooh. Luke's a big Gatorade boy. He has like everything. Big Gatorade boy. So I'd like to know flavor and then bottle style as well.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Do you kind of like the thick boy? First off, if you're not... Yeah, I was going to say, if you don't think the nipple top is the best Gatorade bottle out there, you've never used it because nothing hits more different than Gatorade out of the nipple top.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I will just say that now. It's human nature, but I get it. Okay, flavor-wise, I'm a blue guy. I don't care what color blue, what flavor blue. Just give me some blues. Any of the blues. And I like football cooler with the powder because they just overdo it. And they put so much sugar in there.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And there's like one ounce of water. So it's just like super concentrated. You got to form a good relationship with the training staff whoever mixes that, though. Because if you get a bad mix, it ruins your practice and your day. You're not wrong there. I would say flavor. I got to agree with Byrne.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I'm a blue guy, you know, and I dabble in all the blues. We talk in Gatorade Frost. We go Glacier Freeze. We got Cascade Crush in there, too. Cool blues, always a classic. I'd probably have to say any of the Blues. And then throwback, my old favorite used to be, did you guys ever have
Starting point is 00:02:34 Gatorade Rain? Gross. The Lime Gatorade Rain hit so hard. I don't care what you say, that shit was the dankest. Dude, Gatorade Rain and G2 and all of that is just watered down Gatorade. I want the opposite of that. I want G0.5 or Gatorade and mud.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I want the thick, extra sugar version. Ew, the thick version of Gatorade. You want the full strength Gatorade. Exactly, man. I'm a big grape guy, big riptide rush man myself. That's a heater too. Yeah. So I'm a big grape guy. I will say I don't hate the G2s as much. The G0s I only drink because I'm a masochist and I'm weighing the calories over the hydration. Retweet, retweet. But sometimes when you're hungover on a Sunday, you just needtide rushes and a and a couple three musketeers bars to get you through the day
Starting point is 00:03:29 three musketeers that is such an aggressive hangover move just like yeah i want as much sugar as i can put into my body yikes all right well thanks again for for making me a host boys let's get this pot going. Yeah, man. So we're on episode 10. Who would have thought? Look at us. Hey, look at us. Look at us.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Who would have thought? Not me. Not me. Not me. Who would have thought we made this far? It's a good job, guys. I'm proud of us. We're talking Falcon and Winter Soldier. We're talking Katy Perry tier list.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I know everyone's been requesting it. It's going to happen. And we're going to start out. I got a little Bachelor news. I know Rooks is going to be real happy about this one. So they started casting for Katy's season because that's going to start filming like soon, like in a month or two. And so Reality Steve is like the one dude who like releases all the spoilers. The asshole that leaks everything.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah. But so I don't mind spoilers. One is just who got cast because like we're going asshole that leaks everything. Yeah. But so, I don't mind spoilers when it's just who got cast because, like, we're going to find out anyways. Yeah. But one dude that got cast related to a really famous person
Starting point is 00:04:32 that I know Rooks loves, your favorite rapper, Riff Raff, his little brother, is on KDC's. Oh, my God. What the fuck, man? So if they go to hometowns,
Starting point is 00:04:43 Riff Raff might make an appearance on The Bachelorette all right i would just first off i would just like to say if riffraff was on the show i mean that's it that's a heater right there that's a bona fide stud taking some putting some more star power into the show that being said i hate the sibling of the famous person every time on the show. Yeah. They're always the sibling of the famous person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So we'll see. That's fucking ridiculous, though. I'm so excited for it. Like sometimes they get cast and they drop out like before it actually starts. So like, who knows? But just in saying that, that's even like a possibility. What I kept. So I like after I never Insta creep on contestants or the
Starting point is 00:05:29 bachelor or anything until after the show, because I don't want any spoilers. Everyone like comments like bullshit. So I like the last like week I've been really just like going through and like looking at all these fucking Instagram, like got a kid's Instagram is the worst thing I've ever seen in my goddamn life. It is the worst thing I've ever seen. my goddamn life it is the worst thing i've ever
Starting point is 00:05:45 seen she hosts a podcast it's called the ageless podcast she's like 20 you are you're a child you can't just be like oh actually age doesn't matter i i am just as grown as all you like hell no like i i just saw the name i got pissed off but off. But I've been looking at enough of these that my explore tab on Instagram now is all these. Ruins. All the weird Bachelor accounts. Like, all the people that just follow it and post random shit. I got, like, there's people that are fans of Zach and Tayshia and they have their own Instagram dedicated to that. Which is, like, get a fucking life brother
Starting point is 00:06:26 but like but I've seen all these things and I saw one of them showed me all 30 contestants just pictures of the guys joining KD season we got we got some smokes coming on and then there are also some really
Starting point is 00:06:42 fucking beat dudes no offense to them but man there's i forgot what this guy's name was man but his like headshot picture i was like i can't believe you submitted this photo i can't believe you were like this is the one that's gonna get me on television because man it was it was not i i will i will have that for everybody once filming starts i will i will remember this you're gonna pull them out yeah don't worry viewers i got you quick some quick riffraff facts here do you guys know what his real name is uh richard jody high roller no it's a horse it's horsed christian simcoe and and his nicknames are he has a ton of nicknames i'm a big riffraff
Starting point is 00:07:23 guy you know peach panther the neon python jody high roller mr lamborghini leg lock aqua berry And his nicknames are, he has a ton of nicknames. I'm a big Riff Raff guy. You know, Peach Panther, the Neon Python, Jody High Roller, Mr. Lamborghini Leg Lock, Aquaberry Back Fist, Neon Knuckles. I mean, the guy just doesn't miss with any of his nicknames. Those are great. His real name is insane. So going by Riff Raff doesn't seem too ridiculous now. How do you spell that first name? I don't even know what came out of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:07:45 H-O-R-S-T. Horst. What the fuck is that? That's not a name. Is that how you say it too? Yeah. I mean, shout out to my phonics
Starting point is 00:07:57 in first grade, but that's how I'm going how to pronounce that name. To all my parents out there giving birth to children, stop just randomly putting letters together. Use names.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Use, fuck it, use objects. Like, use real words. Don't be fucking, yeah, this is, um, horsed. Like, what is that? Gwyneth Paltrow named her kid Apple, so I don't want to go with just name them after objects because that doesn't work out. I would take Apple over fucking horsed.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I can't. I can't. Shout out to those parents. Congrats on the sex they're having though, having those kids. That's true. Congrats. But anyway, so Riff Raff's going to be great. I really hope he makes it through. If just any appearance by him in Hometowns would be the best Hometowns episode
Starting point is 00:08:41 that they've ever put out. So, fingers crossed for that happening. But moving on to Falcon and the Winter Soldier, definitely different than WandaVision, but I still liked it. I thought it's solid. Rooks, I know you kind of hated half of the scenes in it already.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So, well, first off, which I know you love the GSP cameo in the beginning. Oh yeah. He came out, just comes out, sounds like he's got peanut butter on the roof of his mouth. GSP's back, baby. He's so back. So ridiculous, though,
Starting point is 00:09:12 because he's one of the best UFC fighters ever. It would be like if LeBron James in 10 years was in a Marvel movie as a side character that gets an okay amount of time and is a serious actor. It's so random. I don't think anyone knows who he is unless you like actually watch the ufc because like they didn't make a big deal about it at all and i never expected him to come back because he was in the second captain america yeah civil war yeah and yeah and he was like a pretty
Starting point is 00:09:41 big character in that one and then it kind of just like away, and I thought it was a one-off. But GSP's back, and he's probably going to be in more episodes, too. I was so excited. In all caps, the one note I have is GSP is back. He didn't die, either. Like, the first in Civil War, I'm like, I thought he died in Civil War. Because I'm just like, oh, it was the opening scene. Or it wasn't for Civil War.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I'm sorry. It was Winter Soldier. Yeah. And it was the opening scene where Captain America goes on the boat and just kicks everyone's ass and then i think his name george saint pierre's name is the leaper yep that's his comic book name and yeah i just assumed he died and then i'm like okay yeah he's definitely gonna die in this one and just barely misses the fire explosion and just dives off in the squirrel suit and, you know, to safety. I mean, I guess he's great because he's like, he's a fighter so he can do the fight scenes. So maybe that's easier to keep him around for it.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I feel like you, it's like, I think it's kind of like the Gina Carano thing where, we'll say fuck Gina Carano, but they can, they don't have to get stunt doubles for them. They can come in and do all the stunts and the fight scenes and choreography and all like that and make it look legit. And he knows French and his character speaks in French, so it makes that more legitimate too. Oui, baguette.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Back to before the GSB thing. Yeah, yeah. So overall, I thought it was good. As I said about WandaVision, I love content. Just keep feeding me content. Give me more backstories. Give me more background to these people. But that being said, I don't care what they do with it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I'm not going to give a shit about Falconcons families, fucking Bubba Gump shrimp boat. Like, I don't care about it. I don't care about their dream of catching shrimp and selling it. I don't care. Is Forrest Gump part of the MCU now, though? That'd be a great crossover, man. I just, I don't care how they twist and turn it i'm saying it now i'm not gonna give a shit about it drop that storyline please do not keep if he falcon like and yes it
Starting point is 00:11:54 was funny having him in um trying to get a loan and stuff like that that was a very funny scene but like if he has to keep going back or like reaching out to people for loans for his goddamn shrimp boat, I'm going to freak out. OK, stop giving me that shit. Winter Soldier going into this super like dark like past and all his crazy shit he's been through. And Falcon's just trying to get this ship boat shrimp boat up and running. That's what I thought was weird about the uh the episode i thought that the falcon's story was more connected to what the overall arc is going to be and then they just had the winter soldier being like hey man you're just still messed up because we don't get a lot of time with you know he experienced the same thing as captain
Starting point is 00:12:40 america i think people get forget he also, I think he was just alive long, you know, he was alive for the 84 years or right. Cause he wasn't on ice or anything like that. Or I don't know the exact like comic origins, but regardless, he is like the same super soldier serum. Yeah. So like, I think we forget, you know, we go through Captain America of him being like, yeah, man, like all all this technology is crazy I was back when Babe Ruth was you know eating hot dogs and hitting home runs for the Yankees and and we forget that Bucky Barnes has dealt with the exact same thing and so I think it was cool to go back and have him relive that and and add more context to that instead of just being a normal side character having said that though that all that's all it was I like they're
Starting point is 00:13:24 probably gonna say like oh they're gonna meet up I know he said in his you all that's all it was i like they're probably gonna say like oh they're gonna meet up i know he said in his you know sam's been calling you or whatever you haven't answered like that type of thing yeah but if it is but if it is as simple as just hey i'm gonna answer your phone call now i'll be like uh that's a little you know there's there's definitely i definitely think there's going to be something that makes their like forces their paths across just because right now too they're showing how and i hope that this isn't as kick because i feel like we've seen a lot of this with winter soldier already just the conflicted oh i'm trying to be better but i'm
Starting point is 00:13:56 fucking i killed so many fucking people and i gotta go this is like make amends to everybody but i'm trying to be better and i'm good now, but oh my God, I killed thousands. Like I don't want to see this, this back and forth with him the entire time. Give it to us for a few episodes and then let's, let's break through. Let's break some new ground. You know?
Starting point is 00:14:15 I think that's the point of this for that character too, is like show that same theme that he's been doing the whole time. Cause you haven't had time for him to like develop as a character and then move out from it by the end of the series yeah and in like the previews for the next like episode already they already are like on a mission together so it's like through shield or sword or whatever it is now they're gonna like just be called in to go take care of something and then they're gonna be like buddies again so that looks like it's where it's going but war machine makes an appearance well roadie guyie guy. Wasn't expecting that.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Even though he had no lines. He talked to him for a minute. He was there. You know, just like all the movies. He's there. He comes in. He's got his little machine guns on his shoulders.
Starting point is 00:15:01 His story arc is, can use his legs, can can use his legs can't use his legs can use his legs again so by the end of the series he'll be paralyzed again got it i'll be looking out for that no i will say though i thought it was interesting how i don't know when this was filming when this filmed but i think they did a good job of tackling a lot of current events issues with the stuff that happened you know last year with with you know all the riots and stuff um so either they you know filmed it before and were really proactive on what they kind of saw and wanted to get across
Starting point is 00:15:38 or they did a good job of pivoting and kind of tackling some of those themes that i think were brought up last week with like the loan stuff. And, you know, like why can't you? I think her sister says, his sister says something to the effect of, you know, you can't give us a loan, us. You know, like emphasizing the fact like, you know, that whole situation.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So I thought that was good. I thought it was done tastefully and wasn't kind of cheesily done. Agreed. Yeah, they didn't shove it down your throat, but it was still like a plot point. But my one gripe at the very beginning, they have the Captain America shield
Starting point is 00:16:12 and he puts it into a circular briefcase. I was like, why are you putting it in a case? One, everyone knows it's a shield. It's a giant circular thing you're going to be carrying around. Everyone knows what that is. Two, why are you putting it in? Is it going to get scratched? We're going to have like titanium, vibranium, that thing balked off Thanos' head so many times.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's still fine. You don't need to put it in a case. It's going to be all right. So that was the very first scene I was like, this is stupid already. But that was my only gripe for the whole thing so far. So overall, I thought it was pretty great. It's definitely going to be way more straightforward than WandaVision though. I don't have like any wild theories, except I'm going to speculate wildly because It's definitely going to be way more straightforward than WandaVision though. I don't have any wild theories
Starting point is 00:16:46 except I'm going to speculate wildly because there's nothing else we can speculate on. The random army guy that Falcon's working with they didn't say who he is at all. So I'm going to go with he's his gay lover. By the end of the series, they're going to be a
Starting point is 00:17:02 thing. I'm going to call it right now. That's my hot take for the series prediction i think i think he's actually someone in the in the comic comics i think when yeah his gay lover maybe yeah not in the comics i've read um but the ones where he uh i think he become when sam wilson becomes captain america that guy becomes falcon the his sidekick becomes falcon so like he just takes up the mantle of falcon well i mean i mean comics man yeah we don't read the comics because everyone knows that they're following it yeah i don't like spoilers from that because like we know where they're going and they're going to kind of follow the comics they're going to
Starting point is 00:17:41 veer off of it a little bit but if they're just going to follow one thing it's like you kind of know every plot point that's coming so yeah but i think wandavision was had some semblances of comic stuff but it was pulled for from a bunch of different ones so i'm thinking that's probably how they'll treat this one because i don't know falcon winter soldier have ever teamed up before in the in the comics or anything like that and there's only six episodes of this right it's not like yeah it's pretty short it's only six yeah my guess is that the episode length will be longer but they always put 10 minutes of credits at the end anyway so i'm you know i think these will be more you know 45 55 minutes each to kind of drive the point across because they thought to introduce
Starting point is 00:18:21 the guy from civil war um zemo um the guy yeah that's the main bad guy supposedly yeah so they have to introduce him and so there's a lot to do in five more episodes to kind of complete this arc so i'll be interested to see how they're able to kind of shove everything together yeah they're definitely longer this one's like 47 ish plus credits or whatever so definitely gonna have to be busy and fast paced for the plot the whole way through for anything to actually get done but did you guys see that he killed the asian dude's son did you see that coming at all uh i know okay i didn't see it coming but then it happened i was just like oh my my... Welcome back, Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Oh shit, I killed somebody when I was mind-controlled by Hydra? Fuck. Got another one to add to the list. Sucked. But yeah, I didn't see that coming at all. And I was like, oh, well that sucked. I thought they were going to be like pals. The memes I've seen online, it's like the Winter Soldier and that old Asian dude.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And then it's like Nick and the old Asian dude from New Girl that doesn't talk at all. I was like, yeah, that's pretty spot on. Perfect comparison. But it ends with like this new Captain America dude who, one, has a really weirdly shaped face. Yeah, what? It's just like super square. Do you guys know who that you guys know who that actor is no it's the it's wyatt russell he's the guy from you guys seen
Starting point is 00:19:49 goon too i think i have but i don't he's the guy with the you'd reckon you'd probably recognize me you saw him son of kurt russell and goldie hahn and uh i believe his sister is kate hudson so shout out kate hudson but yeah he's uh you'd recognize him if you saw him but he yeah his head does not fit well in the helmet which i think is just added for comedic relief he looks ridiculous but yeah i didn't i didn't know oh yeah okay oh yeah no i know who this is yeah okay he's a normal looking dude why does his face look so fucked up in the uniform? It smushes everything down. It's so weird. It looked terrible.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, that was one thing when they brought him out. And granted, I was drinking heavily during this, but he walked out and just went, what the fuck is that? What is that? What did they just bring on stage? Like, that's not a person. His face is so wide. I know this actor, though.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I actually really like him. Like, everything he's, he was in Black Mirror for an episode. And it was a really good one. So that's super weird. I did not put two and two together at all. He does not look the same with that whole thing on. That's ridiculous weird. I did not put two and two together at all. He does not look the same with that whole thing on. That's ridiculous, though. But I like it over like eight out of ten.
Starting point is 00:21:10 What would you guys rate this episode? Yeah, I mean, I think it was compared to WandaVision is tough because that had a theme, a narrative theme throughout it, kind of with the sitcoms. This episode, I think, is hard to judge because you kind of with the sitcoms this this episode i think is hard to judge because you kind of just have to lay the backstory because again we really got no backstory with falcon or winter soldier besides the stuff we saw in the movies and where the other main characters have had movies and movies and movies to set up their back you know their backstory so we you know we have to introduce the bubblegum shrimp boat and the fact that you know damn it winter soldiers is looking for a for a lady to settle down with um yeah so yeah so yeah i i'm right there with you like was it you know
Starting point is 00:21:53 it's good yeah i'll be interested to see where it progresses from here but yeah it was it was kind of what i expected sure yeah i'll give it i want to give it an 8 out of 10. Bubblegum Shrimp's got me at a 7. I'm locking in at a 7. I'm locking in at a 7 out of 10. I totally agree with Zach that we really – we don't – this has to be the starting point, just giving all the background we can on them and their like just more into their head because we don't really get that that much in any of the movies and stuff like that so i think that was really um that's they're doing a good job of that i just want i want more than bubblegum shrimp and um
Starting point is 00:22:39 bubblegum shrimp and just depressed fuck i killed so many people when I was with Hydra I have to make amends to all of them and I think that's what we're like you said earlier Burn we're gonna move through and we're gonna start branching these characters off from those jump points but right now it's just episode one
Starting point is 00:22:59 I just want more especially with how good WandaVision was too i just because wandavision blew me out of the water bars i i yeah you know you hope and like as i said they're going to come in with more action there's going to be a lot more explosions and flips and george st pierre you know like but um but yeah i just i just want a little more i want a little more story to go along with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:27 They're very one note characters and hopefully by the end of it, they won't be. Exactly. Even this episode had more action than pretty much all of one division and it was pretty dope. So definitely the whole series is going to have a ton of action. It's going to be different. The pace than one division.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And as we go along, this might be the worst episode so far, or the whole season, who knows. My ratings will change as we go. Yeah. So Rux, you want to get into the tier list of the week? It's time for some Joss. Alright, Joss.
Starting point is 00:23:58 If you haven't tuned in to my explanations of tier lists, I love tier lists. They're great. They incite debate, which is awesome. So what it is is there's different tiers. S tier, A tier, B tier, C tier, E or D, E, F. F is the worst. S is like the GOAT, as good as it can be.
Starting point is 00:24:23 So what we are ranking today, and all three of us are doing tier lists, so we're going to go song by song, place them in the tier, and give reasons. Debate it out. First thing we are doing is Katy Perry hits from 2008 to 2013. We got straight heat on this board right now. I'm talking well, I have all my tears, what I want, everything
Starting point is 00:24:52 at. I'm really realizing that from 2008 to 2013, I really enjoyed Katy Perry. This is also the only time when Katy Perry was good. We moved past 2013. Anything I heard on the radio
Starting point is 00:25:08 from her, I was kind of just a little underwhelmed by. It's got tough competition, man. When she dropped that song with Bad Bunny over the snow in fall. I'm like, okay, Katy, just get back to the beach bangers
Starting point is 00:25:23 and talking about last Friday night what remember how we got here you know um i got points on that for sure that i've been but so we are going to dive right in uh yeah actually that's a good idea so we're gonna go hot and cold, wide awake, part of me, last Friday night, teenage dream, roar, firework, dark horse, ET, California gorils, and I kissed a goril. All right. We are going to kick it off with hot and cold. So I'll bat a lead off for the first one first one well we can rotate it up as we go hot and cold i enjoy but i don't think it's a heater so what we how this tier list works s tier those songs are like the goats those are classics. Those are the ones we sing at karaoke.
Starting point is 00:26:27 A tier, step down from that. I'm putting Hot and Cold in B tier. I'm giving Hot and Cold B tier. I think it's a good one. It's catchy. It's got a little bop to it. You know what I'm saying? But do I want to sing hot and cold karaoke?
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yes. The answer is hot. Does hot and cold, as they say in, um, what is it? Plays of glory. Does it get the people going?
Starting point is 00:26:56 No, it doesn't. It's a good song. It's a good, it's a good car bumper, you know, but I'm keeping it in beats here. I agree. I'm yes. I'm right there there with you i had it at b tier as well i feel like it's a kmart taylor swift breakup song
Starting point is 00:27:11 and to be fair i think it was one of her early songs so you know she's had a chance to grow and develop i'm gonna get my favorite lyrics from each one of these songs and my favorite lyric in this song is the bridge where she says someone called the doctor got a case of a love bipolar stuck on a roller coaster can't get off this ride and then she just hits it in the chorus again and that's like about the part i'm like oh i can see this this is getting me a little little pumped up but it's you know i'm just like it's b tier it's like all right we're gonna increase the volume one one notch and we're gonna leave it at that i'm right there with your rooks at b tier my god i mean i'm not far off from you guys so this song came out 2008
Starting point is 00:27:50 so it's the very beginning of our time so it's og katie perry which everyone knows i'm a big fan of kesha and og katie perry is just like og kesha whereha, where it's just pop music. There's no depth to it at all. There's nothing to think about. Those lyrics, cool, they're interesting, but they're nothing special. It's just a bop. It's just for you to dance and kind of sing along to, and it's just good beats. And this is this.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I haven't heard this song in forever. I only heard remixes for some reason. I have one weird EDM version of my phone. So here in the like OG version, I was like, the song's better the original way than the version I have on my phone. It's good. And it's a billion views on YouTube. I could put it on YouTube. A billion?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Goodness. I do. I will say I really love the intro. The intro. The intro is kind of my shit. But then as the song goes,'s i mean yes it's just a pop song but it's not a pop song that like you're gonna play at the pre-game where everyone's gonna be vibing with it or the post game where everyone's gonna be blacked out singing it you know
Starting point is 00:28:56 different criteria i'm not saying we could party to it i'm just saying by itself i would listen to it again it's really freaking good this song also taught me what PMS was. I just, I went to the computer and I looked up what PMS was. Cause in the beginning she says, you know, yeah, you PMS like a bitch.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I would know. And I was like, Katie, what are you talking about? I'm not familiar with PMS. And then I looked it up. You didn't do PMS in eighth grade? You didn't take like,
Starting point is 00:29:19 you're supposed to have like, you didn't have like health class. I feel like PMS wasn't really taught. I went to a Lutheran, Lutheran grade school all the way through 8th grade, too. You have a sister, right? Yeah, but... Hey, Manny.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Let's talk about PMS. Burton's the asshole character in every TV show where the girl is kind of pissed off. It's, oh, are you PMSing? Are you on your period? I feel like that's a thing people say in middle school all the time though about like girls like that's like the one dumb joke you'd make yeah eighth grade yeah well yeah because in middle i will say i i agree with burn there it was definitely used but i i unlike other people in middle school, I used it once. I got screamed at by people that were actually, it was that time of the month.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And I never fucking opened my mouth about that ever again. And I learned my fucking lesson. I'm not saying use it. I'm just surprised you didn't know what it meant. But, cool. So we're kind of on the same page. Yeah, we're all floating around the same area all right now let's move in to wide awake zaddy you want to start us with that one uh wide awake i think it's just because i'm so used to taylor or it's katie perry putting out bops
Starting point is 00:30:40 that wide awake when you look at it with all these other songs it just kind of lets me down a little bit i i have it listed as as d tier um and it's i i don't know it just katie pair doesn't do when she does kind of the the sad emotional even some of the other songs on this list are slower but they're upbeat and they are they crescendo into a just you know club banger this just kind of you know flat lines and i'm just waiting for it to hit another level and it never does it's not it's not a worse song but i mean d is not the greatest ranking either so i'm gonna go with d tier fully agree i have it a little bit higher i said it's a solid c just like it's a good song but like you said i'm expecting like a drop or something to happen and it's a solid C. She's like, it's a good song. But like you said, I'm expecting like a drop or something to happen.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And it's just like the same thing the whole way through. So it's good, but just gets boring. But this one came out 2012. So it's four years later. She's trying to like be an artist now, which like I get. You're probably bored of making like just generic pop music. But like stick to what you do, right? Go back to Hot and Cold and like I Kissed a Girl and all that.
Starting point is 00:31:44 That's where it's at. This one is just like, like if you watch the music video it's just hella dramatic for like no reason at all it looks like she's in like evanescence and just like has like dark hair and is like in her emo phase it's not good but it's a c it's it's it's okay you know what i just oh damn you know what i just realized you what would have been such a great segue into this? Riff Raff and Katy Perry used to date. Boys. Missed opportunity. Oh, my gosh. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:32:14 We apologize to the viewers for that. I'm so sorry that we just missed that easy transition to this. But, hey, we're going to keep it rolling. I hate that I'm two for two with Zach right now. I'm putting wide awake as d tier okay so when i first this came out in 2012 this is when i was scouring the internet for any good edm remixes of anything and i heard an edm version of this song before i heard the actual one and the edm version is much more upbeat obviously because it's wide awake's
Starting point is 00:32:45 one of her slower songs and then i heard the real one and it just to me especially compared to her other stuff and me just listening to this one remix over and over again it sounded like it was in slow motion like it was just i'm wide awake and it's just it i completely agree the song drags it's very very slow and at the end of the day we don't i mean judging on my list that i'm looking at right now i do not enjoy slow katie perry music i it's just not it's not my stuff but i'm gonna i'm with zach here god damn it me and zach are two for two right now i will say just to get i mean none of these lyrics are really sticking out to me i'll give her this one it says yeah i am born again out of the lion's den i don't have to pretend the story's over now the end i mean i just i it's
Starting point is 00:33:37 it's just kind of weak on that one she tries it's just meh it's just the ultimate you know realization of the word meh all right let's not great let's move into part of me this one i'm curious this was i'm very curious i think we're going to be split on this one braggad what do you got for us so it came out 2012 same year still same the same dramatic Katy Perry for no reason. This one has 865 million views on YouTube, which is way too many. Big sack guy. Music video. It's her like joining the army and then like running around an open field.
Starting point is 00:34:16 She's getting 360 no scoped minute one in the middle of the battlefield. So horrible, horrible music video. Also, when she joins the army, she gets bangs. So, like, that's two strikes already. Bangs are disgusting. Katy Perry with bangs, she's still alright. How do you feel about bangs? About bangs? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like, hair bangs? Yes. They are hot, but they are crazy girl hot. but they are crazy girl hot like someone with bangs is gonna beat my ass and i maybe i'm in the mood for that okay bangs for me and me and brag guy bangs is a bugaboo i i don't know what it is i've just i've never been able to deal with bangs i can can't. I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:35:06 There's more bad haircut bangs, which I feel might alter your perception. But when a girl has banging bangs, you're like, well, we're in for a treat today. So, hey, any of you viewers, you got bangs. No hate, you know, no hate. You rock that stuff. But it's just, you know, there you rock that stuff but it's just you know there's other people that like it but me and Brian are not
Starting point is 00:35:30 people that like them Bugaboon number one but anyways I give it a C it's like this song is like hella average it's not like disgustingly bad but it's not good so I put it straight middle of the pack I forgot that E is a tier so otherwise I would have lowered my things a little bit more and stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:47 But I gave it a C. I was really boring on this one. Rooks, what are you thinking? So I really, really don't enjoy this song. I'm throwing this F tier. Wow. And why I think it's F tier. So it's more upbeat. So it's,
Starting point is 00:36:05 it's more upbeat and it seems like it's trying to be more fun, but it's, it's not, it's not, it's not that fun of a song. It's not that much of a bop. It doesn't, it doesn't get the crowd going in where,
Starting point is 00:36:22 what I like wide awake more because it's more committed to being like a slower, like kind of more emotional jam. But part of me, you can't be upbeat and then it's not a fun song. Does that make sense? I just don't. It's just weird in between. So it's lack of identity is why it's f tier for me so i had it i had it as where brian had i had at c tier i actually like i think a lot of these the chorus of katie perry songs the choruses are super catchy i actually don't like the chorus in the song i think the verses have
Starting point is 00:36:58 a better beat and build up and then the chorus just kind of lets me down um the the the verses i don't know how to explain there's like a good backbeat to it it's like you know days like this it just it you know gets your head bopping i i just don't vibe with the chorus too much it just it's i'm just like it just kind of lets me down i will say though the lyric that i uh will call out i just want to throw my phone away find out who was really there for me. Shout out to you, Katy Perry. Found out who the real ones are. I appreciate that lyric. Damn, that was the original. I'm staying off social media for a little bit. This is a 2012. Social media was a thing. I'm
Starting point is 00:37:36 sure people said that phrase before then. So not an OG. Not as much as we've seen in the last year. Granted, with the situation, everything's going on in the world, but still. Alright. Let's jump to Last Friday Night. Yeah, we dance on the balls. You see that right there? You see just the energy
Starting point is 00:37:57 when I say that song? Yes! You hear the chorus? You feel it? Last Friday Night. Big A tier for me. Let's go. Same same here let's go just you see the vibe i said last friday night i couldn't stop myself from continuing the chorus we're vibing with that song it's about good vibes fun times you know i am here for Last Friday Night. I'm thrown at A tier. I fully agree. I put it even one higher.
Starting point is 00:38:31 That's my S tier. Ooh, the first S tier of the day. That's my only S tier song. What? On this whole list. Oh, we're going to have some conversations later. I haven't heard this song in so long, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:38:43 this is my favorite Katy Perry song right now. I don't know why. It's so, so only negative points I give it. The music video is two and a half times longer than the song is. So there's so much bullcrap filler in there. I watched like the first minute and it like nothing happened. So I was like, all right, lyric video. Let's get off of this.
Starting point is 00:38:59 This is stupid. This man's coming in with the most random facts about all of these songs. I got some Katy Perry fun facts. I could do it in between this song and the next one. It'll keep people going. Oh, goodness. But this was in 2011. So the year before the last two boring, slow, emotional songs, she was still hitting it.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And then 2012, the world was supposed to end. So she got all sad and it ruined her career. But 1.3 billion views on youtube pretty good but it's the og it's the og katie perry where it's just like the kesha just poppy doesn't matter it's just a fun song there's also like a saxophone solo in the bridge oh true that bumps up like three tiers oh man s tier. S tier. I got to leave it A, though. But that sax solo's got me flirting with it, you know what I'm saying? I'm thinking about it. It's good.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah, this is A tier for me as well. You know, I like my songs. I like it when my songs tell a story. You know how everyone was giving Taylor Swift props in her last, not her, what was it, folklore? Hey, she had three songs that told like an out or told a story throughout it katie perry's able to do that in one song about how bang up job she did on a friday night just getting litty with her friends and it it it doesn't drop the beat the verse and the chorus it just all crescendos and this song
Starting point is 00:40:24 listening to it made me cry because i just miss a normal friday night or at least whatever katie berry takes us back now we got we got feels coming out in this song too exactly exactly i'm trying to find where was the one lyric was about ripping my party dress oh yeah ripped my favorite party dress warrants out for my arrest i think i need a ginger ale. That was such an epic fail. And two shoutouts in this lyric. One, ginger ale, an all-time hangover drink.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Shoutout Canada Dry, the goat ginger ale. And then epic fail just puts a timestamp on this song that is unbelievable. The term epic fails is just not... It was such a... What was it? 2013, 12, whatever, whenever this came out 2011 2011 yeah yeah pretty sure i'm ridiculous when ridiculousness like first started there was an epic fail bit on
Starting point is 00:41:11 every episode my girl chanel west coast all right sorry don't give me a star on that show i hate it so much but yeah for the next song go ahead katie perry fun fact she was originally a Christian music artist, and she went by the name Katie Hudson. Weird. What a turn. Why would you go from that to this? Would we deem that as fun? I don't know if that was that fun. Interesting. It's kind of a fact. It's a fact. It's just a
Starting point is 00:41:38 fact. It's weird, because like, it's just such a turn. It would be like if Riff Raff was a Christian music artist to begin with, and now he's Riff Raff. You would be like if riffraff was a christian music artist to begin with and now he's riffraff you're like i wouldn't expect that um no if you yes if you listen to any of his lyrics it is not comparable have you seen any of her music videos i quit school i can count at least too many games i can count at least three music videos where she has things shooting out of her nipples.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So it's a little strange. That's tight, though. It's a turn. We stand that. We're big stans of that on this podcast. Big feminists. Ladies, you have whatever shooting out of your nipples that you want. Facts. That's true.
Starting point is 00:42:17 All right. Next song. We got Teenage Dream. This, for me, this is another heater. You know, I'm not putting Teenage Dream S tier because it's definitely not there. But I like it a lot. I was really teetering on this.
Starting point is 00:42:40 In my notes, I wrote down A slash B. I think I'm going B tier. I think I'm locking in okay i like teenage dream a lot and the chorus is catchy for me it's the rest of the song that takes it down i don't think it's i don't think it's up to the level of some of the other songs on this list i'm keeping it at b tier i was hoping you had courage of your convictions because i have this at a tier i think the song is a slapper i think just for the line alone where she says at the end of the chorus let's run away and don't ever look back and i'm just i'm the girl in the convertible
Starting point is 00:43:19 hands in the air no seatbelt on hair blowing through my wind i'm like let's run away katie never don't ever look back like that's this song is another storyteller song but it's still poppy and upbeat i think you could put this song on in a pregame and it would and it would hit um what yeah oh yeah i think i think you could yeah i think you could i think this this is my this resides firmly in a tier and the lyric lyric, again, like I said, just let's run away and don't ever look back. It just gets me my vibes, gets me my feels. A tier.
Starting point is 00:43:53 So, came out 2010, right when she's transitioning to little sappy songs. Only has 266 million views on YouTube. Hella low compared to the other ones. This song was on MTV for like two years straight It has 266 million views on YouTube. Hello, low compared to the other ones. This song was on MTV for like two years straight on like the music video channel every hour. I was dating a girl. All she wanted to do was watch the like VH1 like music video channel.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And that's all we did. And it was horrible. I've heard this song so many times. It's the worst. It's so dramatic for no freaking reason. It's the exact Katy Perry song that I hate. F-tier. It's my only F-tier song.
Starting point is 00:44:38 F-tier on Teenage Scream is your only F-tier? Burn. It's so bad. Brian, you're probably just mad that she didn't get your heart racing in her skin-tight jeans. That's probably the only reason you're probably just mad that she didn't get your heart racing in her skin tight jeans. That's probably the only reason you're mad. No, big fan of skin tight jeans, skinny jeans for life. But this song is garbage.
Starting point is 00:44:54 It's so bad. I, I'm very ashamed that you, you said you have one, like an F tier. I thought it was this one. I was like, all right, we're definitely going to agree. When we get to my F tier song, I'm going to go on a diet tribe about my F tier song, but Teenage Dream is an A tier song. Teenage Dream cannot be your F tier. It can't.
Starting point is 00:45:10 It's my only F tier. It's so bad. And I'll get to this when we get to our Hoobastank song tier list. But look, when I used to wake up, or when I used to go to sleep, I would fall asleep to MTV hits. I think it was Channel 139 on old comcast it's only music videos you know what i woke up to every morning this freaking song i'm not a perfect
Starting point is 00:45:35 person it's crows flying and the reason is playing by hoobastank. Shout out to my fucking singing because that was gorgeous. But that song, I heard it all the time. I woke up to it every morning because they just have the same shit on loop. Is that going F tier just because I heard it all the time? Because that's Hoobastank's like best song. Katy Perry has so many better songs than this one. Even if it wasn't Hoobastank's's best song i wouldn't throw it f tier just because of how much i heard it i would cherish that burn it's a bad song and i heard it a lot
Starting point is 00:46:11 so i hate it even more you guys are lucky i'm not just reading i'm just looking at the lyrics you guys are looking i'm not just reading through this whole song right now this song is full of great lyrics that i'm i'm crying right now behind here just watching this young teenage love brian i'm sorry that if you didn't experience that or that in the best way possible, but I'm crying over it. All right, but let's keep it moving, though. So next on the list, we got Roar. Bryguy, what are we giving it? All right, 2013.
Starting point is 00:46:39 It's kind of after her 2011-2012 be all sad phase. So this one's more upbeat, so I give it that. It has 3.3 billion views on YouTube. Which is 10 times as many views as I kissed a girl. Which I was surprised by. Freaking 3 billion. But I hate it. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's not a bad song. I'll give her that. But it's hella repetitive. And it's like it was played on every channel. And like at Thon at Penn State. Constantly. And it's like it was played on every channel in like at thon at penn state constantly and it's horrible it's so repetitive that if you hear it twice in a row it sounds like you've heard the same four words for like 10 minutes straight so this one i gave a d so suck it i'm going so i don't i don't hate it as much as you. For me, it doesn't really do anything.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I'm throwing it straight middle of the pack. I'm giving it C tier. Isn't it paired with a movie? It's like the theme song for something. And it's supposed to be kind of uplifting. I'm pretty sure it's paired with a movie. It's Rocky, right? Because she says right because she says i the tiger yes exactly um i'm pretty sure it's paired with like an animated movie i think it was supposed to be like kind of uplifting and
Starting point is 00:47:55 it's supposed to be the vibe with it but it's just to me it's just not and it's it's not the katie perry that i enjoy you will soon see the katie perry that i enjoy based on my ratings but it just for me it just doesn't do much i don't know i don't really have much to say that's why i just threw it in and see because i was just like i don't i don't really know what to say it's just whatever it's just there yeah this song stinks guys this is an e-tier song this is uh the this song has is so bland boring has nothing behind it the best lyrics of the song are literally when she says oh oh oh oh oh oh oh you're gonna hear me roar the only reason i didn't put it at f-tier was because the super bowl performance when she
Starting point is 00:48:41 i think she came out on a line or something crazy like that it was oh yeah that's right it was that made it a slightly better but otherwise this song is objectively trash it has no life soul anything it rips off the eye of the tiger just to get people like hey remember that song that was a cool song and then I'm just like just go listen I have a tire because it's it's a hundred million times better song than this so yeah this is this is sitting firmly in e tier for ya boy thank you finally prove rucks wrong this song sucks the first one that you guys are going to disagree on so maybe maybe i wasn't maybe i if maybe it's not paired with the movie i thought it was for some reason anyway it doesn't matter it's definitely a movie it definitely has those vibes though i guess what it's also it's it's been it's been in like 10,000 commercials as well.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I've heard that song so many times. Not when I wanted to. But we'll move past it. Next, we got a heater. We got a firework. Do you ever feel
Starting point is 00:49:41 like a plastic? I'm just going to say, I'm going to bat lead off here. I'm going to bat lead off here. I'm going to go first. If you don't think Firework is S tier. Let's go. If you don't think Firework is S tier, you're just wrong. You're diving out of a boat missing water here.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Firework, it's start to finish. All of its references, just chef's kiss it is a great song it gets the people going everyone loves it everyone knows it it's a banger i sing it at karaoke i sing it at gaffioki did a job, but had a great time doing it. It is hardcore S tier for me. I got it. No, hold on. It is S tier. I'm going to reinforce my guy Rooks here because this song is ultimate S tier. If I had to rank my songs within S tier, this would probably be number one uh within s tier the best um lyric or is the pre-chorus when she says you
Starting point is 00:50:48 just got to ignite the light and let it shine just own the night like the fourth of july and that's when you're like stirring the pot in the middle of a you know of a of a rave concert you're adding the spices you're you know you're mixing it up and then the beat drops and she says baby you and then everyone just goes crazy and this song was only made more s tier by the fact that it was in the interview at the end of that movie that only added to the legend and the lore of this song this song the music video of the song is great it's an uplifting song when i'm down to the dumps i put on firework and i just you know i'm like thank you katie baby i am a firework thank you very much and i you know this is an s tier song i will not hear anything below.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Even A tier is disrespectful to put this song in. This song before the interview was S tier. Oh, yeah. And then the interview just slapped that thing. The interview took 5,000 screws, a hammer that, or a drill that never runs out of power and just started screwing it into S tier so nobody could take it out. It is a lock, Byrne.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Come on. What a weird analogy. I don't know. That's where my mind just went. I don't know. Made IKEA stuff a few weeks ago. I don't know. Came out in 2010.
Starting point is 00:51:58 So like still in her poppy phase, which is good. Like it's very poppy. It's upbeat, like you guys said. It has 1.3 billion views on YouTube. So the the people love it i give you that having it in the interview where he's asking dave are margaritas gay is my favorite part of this song i don't like anything other than that part that it was in the interview the music video again i have a note on this one she has sparklers shooting out of her boobs again because that's just like her go-to in her music videos we stand that but my note on it is i forgot this song sucks i'll give it a c
Starting point is 00:52:30 only because of the interview oh my i really don't like this song it's so repetitive and not one of her good pop songs i'm stressed just hearing that i'm stressed out right now i don't like she says if the chorus is like three or four times in the song in the verse is forgettable dude you can have an opinion but your opinion's wrong on this one yeah i don't know what to say i was gonna put it lower but if it was in the interview so i gave it a couple points that is a swing and a miss there chief let's keep it moving though we're moving on this one's my favorite this this is my number one top of the list i do dark dark horse i'm gonna lead off i'm going fucking s tier let's go s times 10 000
Starting point is 00:53:19 s tier i'm i we need a new category we need the cool cool S's you drew in elementary school with the three lines. That's what tier this is in. Because holy shit, this song is a fucking heater. Shout out my boy Ryan Hickey, Worldwide Sports Radio Network. We had a party. And this is when we were listening to Dark Horse. Any pregame that me and hicky are at you can guarantee dark horse is playing at least four times there was one point of the party that we
Starting point is 00:53:53 threw in our apartment because we're djing we are in control of the music we have the playlist we know what laptop it's on i played dark horse probably eight or nine times in the first two hours of the party and i was getting i was hearing random people the party say haven't we heard this already and i just i was smiling they would say that i would go back and put on put it on the the little play one more time thing like the little repeat on it like i was like i need it again the people are loving it the people are vibing but it's great the just musically like lyrics awesome the beat oh it it gets the people going i agree 100 and we're counting the juicy j version right like that's the canon version okay that's the only version this is also S tier for me. This is
Starting point is 00:54:46 an all-time heater of a song. Shout out to my sister. She would sing the Juicy J part. I would sing the Katy Perry song. The Katy Perry part. I have the song memorized. I could do it right now. You write the beat where it's like it's the...
Starting point is 00:55:01 There's no going back. Oh, yeah. It's, it doesn't even need a remix because the beat goes hard enough. Juicy J just kills it. He, you know, he's an Oscar winner. Shout out to Three 6 Mafia. When you put an Oscar winner. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:55:16 When you put an Oscar winner on a song, you can't go wrong. And my favorite lyric is by him is her love is like a drug. I was trying to hit it and quit it, but little mom was so dope. I messed around and got addicted. I'm just like, I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And sometimes I think when pop stars like this add rappers to their song, it's a gimmick. This, I think it works perfectly. I love this song. It is amazing. It is S tier. I know I originally said firework would be on the top.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I take that back after hearing rooks. It got me all hyped up. I think this is at least tied with Firework, if not past that. This song is the best. It is an absolute banger. It's my number one seed. Okay. It's my Olympus.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I don't even know what the fuck to call it. It's my shit. All right? Olympus. That's like the tall mountain in Greek mythology and shit. You know what I'm saying? You say like Everest, like the one that does exist you know what burn you can suck a dick and come up with your own statements how about that all right here we go i'm ashamed that you think this is close to where firework is because that just says a lot about your taste
Starting point is 00:56:19 in music but 2014 like you're saying she's bringing in like rappers to her songs now, which like very odd. Wait, shit, this is 2014? 2014. No fucking way. That's what YouTube had. Maybe that's when they like uploaded the video and it was wrong. But 3 billion views on YouTube featuring Juicy J. No, release 2013.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Hey, the tier lists were still good. Oh, scared me for a second. But it's a bop on my notes i was i wrote down when you tell the story about hickey like playing that song over and over and over again because that was like a story of the night of like he literally did play it 10 times in a night and would freak out and scream the lyrics to it but i'm only here for juicy j's verse that's the best part of the song by a long shot. He deserves two or three in the song because she does the verse and then it drops, but it doesn't. And then she does the verse again
Starting point is 00:57:12 and then it's the good drop and it's his verse and then she does her thing again. And it's like her verse that she does is okay, but it doesn't deserve to be 75% of that song. No, I gotta disagree with you. I love just her like melody and her like cadence with it and stuff. I think it's kind of like entrancing,
Starting point is 00:57:35 you know what I mean? Like it locks you in. It's good if it was a Juicy J song featuring Katy Perry and not the other way around. So if they just swap the names, if they just swap, I was gonna say, if they just swap the name they just swap I was gonna say they just swap the names you'd be cool with no she needs to be like the background singer little melody in the background to him doing most of the song where this one it's 80% of the song is her just doing the same like line over and over I gave it a B
Starting point is 00:57:59 though I gave it a B it's good you putting Dark horse in b tier is just so disrespectful me and hicky used to me and hicky used to go to other people's parties and would go up to the person playing music be like yo do you got a dark horse by katie perry and either they would say fuck yeah or they'd go what'd you say and we'd go what and just like walk away from them but you put the song on then skip halfway through to a minute or 30 seconds before the drop, and then you listen to their on. No. The first minute and a half of the song is pointless.
Starting point is 00:58:32 You need all of it. We're not going to sit here and just keep doing the same argument over. We're going to move on. You know I'm right. You know what? There's no going back. Alright. Next on the list.
Starting point is 00:58:48 We got E.T. I'm curious to see your guys' thoughts on this. Zach, what do you got? Can I go? What a shit bag of a song. This song absolutely stinks. I hate this song. I'm including the Kanye West version of this song. I despise this song.
Starting point is 00:59:04 This song should be buried, buried putting a paper shredder putting a wood chipper it is so bad it is bad for the kanye part it is bad for the katie perry part it is bad for all the parts do you guys this is not my favorite lyrics um do you want to hear some of the kanye west Have you read them lately? I will say Kanye's Kanye's verse is a little, it's a little, I'm going to read you two, two lyrics.
Starting point is 00:59:34 The first one where he opens, I got a dirty mind. I got filthy ways. I'm trying to bathe my ape in your Milky ways. Peter, that's a lot of bars. You're doing justice right now, man. The other one that I cannot stand when people come at me
Starting point is 00:59:47 and be like, Kanye's the best rapper alive. I'm like, you do know he sang this lyric, or rapped this lyric, which was, I know a bar out in Mars where they're driving spaceships instead of cars. And that's the lyric. And I'm just, I can't take him. Can I get a bars?
Starting point is 01:00:03 I can't take him seriously. This song, all Katy Perry says is just alliteration. I can't take him I can't take him seriously this song all Katy Perry says is just alliteration it's just kiss me extra terrestrial you're not even singing you're just chanting you're not doing anything
Starting point is 01:00:17 this song sucks the music video sucks this is big old F tier F minus tier X tier whatever it is F tier how dare you so this is in 2011 591 million views on youtube which is hella low featuring kanye west i didn't know there's a version without kanye west because without him it would be a weird song it was the version of kanye west it was the dark beautiful twisted fantasy album was the one that just came out, which is All the Lights and Runaway.
Starting point is 01:00:46 So that's kind of the style that he's like performing in this one, which I really like that album of Kanye West. That's before he kind of got like weird for me and not in music that I like. My note is it's better than Dark Horse overall because of Kanye West has more in this song than Juicy J. I don't think Juicy J's part's better, but the mix of Kanye West into this song is like throughout two to three different times. It's more of a Kanye West
Starting point is 01:01:16 song featuring Katy Perry like I was saying the other one needs to be. But it's bad though. The Kanye lyrics are all bad. They're not good. Juicy J has a banger of one verse. That's why I'm accepting. That's why it j has a has a banger of one verse that's why i'm except that's why it's okay he's only in there for the lyrics that juicy j threw down were just as weird as the ones you just said kanye west say they don't make any sense but they rhyme and they sound cool with it it's like it's catchy bar out bar out mars where they're
Starting point is 01:01:38 driving spaceships instead of cars is not a good rap lyric it is just like like, stay back. Dude, you gotta read the Juicy J ones from frickin' Dark Horse then, because a lot of them don't. They're dumb. I'll pull them up. Rooks, tell me what you think. What did I put it in? I put it in A tier. What? It's a good song.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Well, this is gonna be some not happy person in this group right now. So I'm going S tier. Are you kidding me? I fucking love this song. I don't know. There's random.
Starting point is 01:02:19 So there'll be random pop songs here and there. Especially slower ones. this like there's some sensualness in this song it's like it's a little it's a little freaky deaky which like i'm always a fan of but like it i don't know it gets me going god i've said that so many times but hey we're talking katie perry um but i really actually enjoy this song and i i don't i don't know why i always have but it's it's always been a heater to me this song has has it's trying to have sexual innuendos in it and they don't make any sense katie perry says want to feel your power? Stun me with your lasers. It doesn't... It doesn't...
Starting point is 01:03:06 The jokes or the innuendos don't make any sense. Hey, sometimes music doesn't need to be that clever. You know what I mean? I don't need it to be clever every time. I'm picking up what she's putting down. She's trying to get after it. And I'm here for it, okay?
Starting point is 01:03:23 She's trying to bang an alien, man. Who is it? Yeah, I'm down. I okay she's trying to bang an alien man who is it yeah i'm down i'm so down i'm i and i i don't think et should be in everyone's s tier but it's in mine i i really enjoy the song i want her to have more songs with like rappers featured in it honestly it's like, she does pop music really good, and she does the feature really well. When she does emotional, slow stuff, it sucks. It's just going through my head right now, man. I'm getting excited over here.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I'm getting worked up right now. But that moves us. Yeah, Zach is not happy right now. But we are going to move into California Gorils featuring snoop d-o-double-g thoughts braga you want to go first uh first and foremost uh marlboro girls a much better song shout out marlboro girls oh my goodness so our friends from new jersey are from marlboro and when they were in high school some of their guy friends recreated this song and made a music video for it
Starting point is 01:04:28 but called it Marlboro Girls instead of California Girls and did the entire song and it's ridiculous sorry firetruck action we started mentioning E.T. and stuff and all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:04:44 the people are going crazy. They're starting to light fires out in the streets, man. It's getting nuts. Or actually, we're talking about Marlboro Girls and people are getting excited. That's actually exciting. That Central New Jersey, you know it doesn't actually exist area. Exactly. So this came out 2010, 578 million views, featuring Snoop Dogg.
Starting point is 01:05:04 It's really poppy. It's kind of like what she does, right? But it's like really repetitive. It's kind of like strange. Again, another music video. She has a whipped cream shooting out of her boobs. That's two. We stand.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I gave it a C. It's just like whatever. It's not one of her better ones, but it's not bad either. So a middle ground. Yeah, I agree. So I haven't put in B tier. I kind of agree with what you were saying. It's in the middle of Dark Horse and E.T. in terms of featured rappers.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I think Snoop does his job. He's just Snoop Dogg on this. He's probably high when he was recording this. Just say California and rhyme for us for a, for a hot minute. So I think this song gets bumped up though, if you are in California and you are with Gorals and you put this song on, then you can bump it up to A tier. Um, I think it's like a time and setting place.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Like this song doesn't really hit in the winter when the sun's not out or anything like that. So, um, I think it's a situational song, but I think overall it's a, it's a standard good Katy Perry pop song. So I put it B tier. Yeah. I, I,
Starting point is 01:06:14 I do not like this song. I do not enjoy this song. I do not think it's, I don't think it's catchy in the right way. I think it's catchy in a sense of you hear it and then it's just stuck here in your head I don't think you hear it and you want it there you hear it and it's oh my god
Starting point is 01:06:32 like mental asylum like I can't get this out of my head like the only thing keeping it out of F tier for me is Snoop Dogg's feature I think it's Snoop Dogg isn't I don't think he spits some crazy bars in this but Snoop Dogg's feature. I think it's... Snoop Dogg isn't... I don't think he spits some crazy bars in this, but Snoop Dogg being in a Katy Perry song
Starting point is 01:06:51 called California Girls, I think is hilarious. So I am putting it E tier. I don't think it's the worst. I just really, really do not like it. It does not do it for me. And it's upbeat, which is the katie perry i like but it does it just it doesn't sit right with me it's it's not good catchy it's just repetitive and i yeah i i never looked the lyrics but in snoop dogg's verse when he says uh
Starting point is 01:07:22 homeboys banging out all that ass hanging out, bikinis, zucchinis, martinis, no weenies, just the king and the queenie. It's just like, okay, I might have to move it up to D tier. Shit. No, you moved that down for those lines. That's not D tier. No, that was some E. But the thing is, I find, I like,
Starting point is 01:07:41 and I know this isn't the reason, but I find it hilarious that Snoop Dogg is saying that shit in a Katy Perry like top 50 hits pop song like I think that's so funny probably made so much money off of that I'm leaving it heat tier yeah
Starting point is 01:07:58 alright we're here at the finale this is where it all began the OG of OGs this was the first one that really broke We're here at the finale. This is where it all began. The OG of OGs. This was the first one that really broke through. And it came out hard. Like this thing shot out of the gates. We are going with I kissed a girl.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Or it's just called kissed a girl, I think. But. It's actually spelled right, yeah. Right, guys. What do we got? So, it's the OG of all OGs. So you gotta put some respect on it. Gotta put respect on its name.
Starting point is 01:08:32 2008. Only 200 million views on YouTube, which is weird. It's super poppy, super dumb. I like it. That's where you need to be. That's where she started, and she kind of veered away from that, which was stupid. But when I listen back to all these songs, it wasn't my favorite.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I liked the other ones more. This one's slightly slower than TGIF and all that. So I gave it a B. It's good. I like it. It's not our best, even though it is the OG. So it's still up there. Yeah, this is D tier.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I'm not in the i'm not in the uh i'm not like you know thing to give participation trophies for you being the first one to do something you know congratulations katie perry you put out a you put out a song it was it was mildly successful or very successful i should say i just don't i just don't like it very much um you talk about repetitive this song maybe has three or four lines that aren't the chorus and it's just this it's just the same thing over and over again and you know shit what we talk about taste of her cherry chapstick like what are we doing like it just it it's supposed to be a song that's you know hey I kissed a girl you're a guy listen
Starting point is 01:09:40 to this in the in the car like oh this is on regular radio like girls kissing girls and it could not make me you know softer if that made like the song is bad so there's three verses and three choruses 50 50 the verses are slightly shorter than the chorus they're way shorter that's that's doing a disservice i'm just saying it's compared to some of our other ones it's not as repetitive what you put this in i am going to seal it all off i'm going a tier okay i gosh i love this song right and i still um i was one of the things i was thinking i was like hey like looking back on it I was like that's pretty pretty progressive for 2008 Katy Perry talking about this but then you read the lyrics and it's just like oh I got drunk and I was I'm gonna kiss this girl I hope my boyfriend doesn't
Starting point is 01:10:36 give a shit like it's it's not as empowering you know as I also FYI, Katy Perry, your boyfriend will thank you for doing that. He'll be like, yes, do that more, please. I really like this song. I actually like the song for the music of it. I really do enjoy the music. What the fuck was that sentence I was about to just say?
Starting point is 01:11:03 I like a lot of things about this song and not just the nostalgia of hearing it at middle that's the thing this came out middle school we're at middle school dances this song's coming on and every i remember every guy at these dances were just like this is such a cool song we didn't dance and stuff but we were just standing there like we stand this this is really cool hey
Starting point is 01:11:31 all you guys listen to the lyrics okay like we're cool with this but but yeah I think it's a I think it's a bop I think it's one of the good ones and Zach yes we don't hand out participation trophies on this pod. I know that.
Starting point is 01:11:50 But you gotta put some respect on what got her on the mat. I just don't understand. Going from, we talked about how in the prior song she's able to flow from verse to chorus or build. This song is literally verse hard stop chorus hard stop verse there is no build it's just you know and it just and it's once a while to say like i kissed and it's just there's just okay i guess we're going to the chorus now that's cool i guess i mean shout out to katie perry for this song because it got us all the other songs but i don't think it's her best by far it's it's it's living in the d's for me as in as in she skipped the d
Starting point is 01:12:26 to kiss the girl i threw it a i i enjoyed it and i actually yes i was a middle school boy hearing a song describing two girls kissing and at that age that's like so dope but I actually enjoy the song I really do like the song I'm throwing an A tier yeah I'm with you I can't believe your E.T. take I'm still heated from that I'm still heated it's one of my favorites I can't
Starting point is 01:12:58 I can't help it man I like what I like okay I'm surprised you hated it that much I feel like that's whatever big songs that everyone like I haven't heard in forever listen back to it I feel like that's whatever big songs that everyone liked. I haven't heard in forever. Listened back to it, I was like, yeah. Still love this. So bad. But hey, great first
Starting point is 01:13:13 deeper tier list than just two items on the tier list and me just hating one and loving the other. Then crunchy and smooth people. Great job. Hey, you want to follow us on Twitter? These will be up, posted. If you want to follow us on twitter these will be up posted if you want to throw your own tier lists hey you can comment on it you know hey maybe maybe tell us a little follow on twitter you know i'm saying but we're gonna we're gonna do a lot
Starting point is 01:13:38 more of these and if you have any suggestions let let the boyos know okay in the description of every episode there's a link. Click on that link. You have a minute to record a message of whatever you want to say. Give us a cheer list to do or make fun of Zach for thinking E.T. is the worst song in the world. And I'll put it in the episode. Do that. Do it. I dare you. You won't do it, Alex. Absolutely do that. But anyway, it's time for Zaddy's Dating Corner over here. it's time for zaddy's dating corner over here it's it's time for we we got some a situation and then we're just gonna talk about it and we'd be curious to see if you if you guys have any thoughts on this please call in because this is fascinating to me
Starting point is 01:14:18 if anyone has actually done this before other than zaddy i would be shocked so yeah so i'm i'm gonna treat this as more of a friendly tip to anybody out there on things to do um when you're trying to look for that special someone um so about two or three weeks ago i went to a bar with my friends to watch the indiana versus university of michigan basketball game we were slamming back some stadium cups full of great tasting, Les Fillings Miller Lite. Please sponsor the pod. And we, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:50 we're getting a little loose. It was a daytime game. So doing a little day drinking with the boys. And, you know, after, you know, very nice waitress, you know, did a great job, you know, serving us. We decided after we were done, me and my other buddy came back.
Starting point is 01:15:03 We were just hanging out. And so I decided to DM the bar we were at with a and my other buddy came back. We were just hanging out. And so I decided to DM the bar we were at with a simple message saying, you know, hey, just was at the bar. We had a very nice waitress, thought she was cute. Here's my number if you'd like to give it to her to, you know, for future correspondence. You better not have phrased it like that. no, I didn't phrase it like that, but I was pretty,
Starting point is 01:15:32 I'm pretty drunk. So, you know, take that with a grain of salt. I decided then about an hour, two hours later, I get this random Instagram follow request. Sure enough, it is our waitress that served us. And yeah, and that was it. So it worked. It did work. It did work. So I personally,
Starting point is 01:15:52 I think that's fucking crazy that I've heard. So first off, Zach, you're, you're a good looking guy. Okay. I'll give you that. You're a good looking guy.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Do not do this if you're a good looking guy okay i'll give you that you're a good looking guy do not do this if you're beat so i will not be doing this ever if i was single um i just no in all seriousness if i'm the person that works there and i get whoever runs our bars instagrams like hey uh this person dm'd and they want to follow you to follow them back i'm like what the fuck did you just say to me i'm i'm a little freaked out it's and some people hey and some people would like that attention some people would be cool with it hey quarantine man everyone's lonely we're coming we're coming up on the end of it it's time to start making moves i get that but i'm still thinking it's a lot to take in yeah it's towing the line very closely between creepy and cute and you're lucky you're attractive
Starting point is 01:16:59 because it works but well like i said i think it's bad i think it's it's it's almost more either creepy or thirsty whatever on her end you know like oh i agree to the fact that she was like oh yeah okay the fact the fact that she was like yeah let me definitely follow this one guy who i just served for two or three hours and you know let's see where it goes i feel like that's a little more concerning agree i'm not saying what i did wasn't again weird or creepy in the in the sense but i think it's a two-way street here oh no i i and me saying what i just said i completely agree that you look creepier if you actually do follow up and follow the person. Because you had, and especially in, and this is very unfortunate, but like waitresses get hit on a lot. I used to work in the restaurant industry.
Starting point is 01:17:56 They get unwanted attention all the time. Not all the time, but it happens and it sucks and it's unfortunate i i don't know how or what makes it different unless you had some crazy like back and forth with this specific customer you know what i mean yeah they just feel so much shit all the time that i feel like unless you guys had some crazy break breakthrough like one-on-one time or like she just got off and you guys had a drink or some shit like i don't know how the fuck this worked out yeah it wasn't from what i remember it wasn't anything crazy it was you know a couple dad jokes here and there you know hey nice sweatshirt and that was about it she was wearing an indiana sweatshirt go hoosiers and that was uh and that was about it and then it was just you know the the you, the beer fingers take over and you're just throwing DMs out to bars.
Starting point is 01:18:46 I do not stand the term beer fingers. I do not like that term at all. I mean, like you're saying, they get hit on so much that like, yeah, don't hit on your waitress. It's weird. So maybe this is a better way to do it. But is this creepier than just like leaving your phone number on like the receipt? Well, I,
Starting point is 01:19:11 I think so. How I would look at it is this is definitely more thirsty. Fair. If you're going to effort to hit up the person running their bars, social media, that's totally different than Zach's drunk fingers, writing his phone number on a receipt and leaving it for a reply you know yeah that's true not people thirsty i have to get through i have to get through two firewalls with the way i did it too you have to not only get through the bar's instagram um or like but then the girl has to be like well do i
Starting point is 01:19:41 really want to follow this guy and just judge him based on his tiny Instagram picture. Because if you're on private, you can't see all their pictures. So it's like, whoa. Are you on private? Oh, yeah, I'm on private. Oh, by the way, I did not accept her follower quest either. Oh. That is a bad guy, if I've ever heard it.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Oh, my goodness. This man went to the effort to do this and she follows him back he gets what he wants and he goes nah fuck that i don't want it because it's out here catching fish just to catch fish dude like come on bro well because i feel like that at that point it's like so i accept the file request i then probably obligated to dm her we're probably obligated to do other things and then i just like just so much effort and then at that point i'm just you know i think it's better for me to say just no what so i shouldn't say that
Starting point is 01:20:35 i didn't say no to her request i just didn't accept it for the longest time and then i think she just rescinded her request to follow me regardless that's a bit worse though because if she rescinded it that means she thought about it again later went back to check it and then was like oh he didn't accept it and okay screw this guy unfollow well yeah and i'm like i'm exaggerating with the the fish comment but like it's just like it's just funny that you got what you wanted. And then really, no, never mind. Like, I'm good. But, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Oh, my God. I wonder how the fuck she feels. This is why. Okay. And this is why girls say they fucking hate guys. Because they do dumb shit like this. Like, Zach, what you did was so dumb. There's the amount of mind games you
Starting point is 01:21:28 just played on somebody that you had as a surfer and that's your only interaction with is crazy. This is why women literally say, yeah, all guys suck. It's because one guy does some shit like this to them. You gotta go back to that bar
Starting point is 01:21:44 and get her as a waitress again and just pretend like you don't know her. Oh yeah, dude, just straight straight like, oh, oh, hey, how's it going? Yeah, I can never go back to that bar again. It's like one of the two Indiana bars in the city and I just kind of exiled myself from that one.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Oh gosh. Just wanted to see if I still had it, boys. Just wanted to see if I still had the old fastball. Don't do this, gosh. Just wanted to see if I still had it, boys. Just wanted to see if I still had the old fastball. But, like... Don't do this, kids. Yeah, do not... Message of the day. Do not do this.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And, like, yeah, like, when I said the catching fish thing, like, don't look at it as that situation. That's not what I was saying. It was just a funny little metaphor. But, like, don't be like Zach. is that situation that's not what i was saying it was just a funny little little metaphor but like don't be like zach and do if you do reach out and they reach back out to you follow through with it you know there's also a learning corner over here because that's being a fucking asshole to people but that's oh so i i really i want to know what the person who runs the social media for the bar said to the girl like i would hey this really cool attractive looking guy on instagram what's like
Starting point is 01:22:55 they probably sold that shit so poorly for you it's like yeah some weirdo you serve today uh once you're uh to follow you on Instagram. Oh, yeah, 100%. And if you're on private, she can't even see your photos. It's hard to tell who you were, too. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, she did serve me for three hours. So, I mean, I don't know how many other tables she served. But, you know, yeah, no, I agree. It wasn't the great move.
Starting point is 01:23:21 But, you know, hey, I'm here to say to all of our listeners out here, our viewers, I should say, my fault, all of our viewers, it does work. So if you are down bad and you need a solution to help, you know, maybe, who knows, maybe when we're allowed to go back out to bars full, you know, full capacity, you know, you don't want to go up to that bartender but you know you maybe you slide a slide a dm and she maybe caught her caught you know her eye a little bit but you don't have the confidence hey it can work it can work as proven by me you just might want to accept her follow request if you really want to follow through on it yeah if you're gonna take that if you're gonna take those steps follow through all right everyone remember kelly slater surfing on those creamy waves, getting it all in my, in my nooks and crannies.

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