It’s Wednesday My Dudes - Ep. 3: Better Duo? Jordan and Pippen or MJ and Pieper

Episode Date: February 3, 2021

This week Cody gets into his travel plans for he’s going post Covid, Cory somehow compares Rachel to Steve Kerr, Ruxx professes his love for Lebron yelling at Court-side Karen, Bryan talks through the expensive as hell trade for Matt Stafford, and we all agree that we are siked for the return of NCAA football. Timestamps: 0:00:00 - 0:03:15 - Travel Plans 0:03:15 - 0:59:00 - Bachelor Week 5  0:59:00 - 1:32:00 - Superbowl News / NCAA / Court-side Karen Follow us on Twitter @IWMD_Pod

It is Wednesday, my dudes. And it's another Wednesday. Welcome back, everybody. Bogogi, how's the yolf swing going? Yolf swing, feeling good. Shot a 94 this past weekend in the cold, full of jose. It was a great round. Ball goes significantly less far when you're playing in the

cold played great 94 we're vibing today boyos everyone's pretty impressive for nine holes yuck yuck yuck boy cory how's the wife she's good she's good grad school right now grad school we're all productive today we got the pod we got a little grad school everybody getting work done you're supposed to say she's dead we're good other guys reference come on that's how you that's how you perjure yourself i don't want any uh evidence of something that may or may not have happened i'm supposed to go at a boy afterwards and then we move on cody how's uh grand tetons planning going hey i'm just happy we booked a trip uh what do we got mid-august we still got a ways to go but hopefully you know everything's a little better travel wise me you actually bought some anybody else who wants to come so i'm gonna third wheel a little bit great

i could ride a tricycle well you're supposed to you know recruit sidecar people you know rooks you want to go to the uh grand tetons in uh late august straight up like don't make fun of me i have no clue where the grand tetons are dude i south yellowstone my guy it's wyoming carl just gave me a very mean side eye so when i when i texted amy i was like hey do you want to go to wyoming she was like uh well i don't want to be left out so yeah let's go and then like the next day she's like so why are we going to Wyoming I was like Grand Tetons Yellowstone but she had no idea she just like I don't want to be left out no questions dope dope Rooks you going anywhere when the uh when COVID's over where's the first place you go I'm going straight there is a club in DC called Tropicalia you walk in the lights are always like pitch black

there's like literally one red spotlight on the dance floor and that's like the only light downstairs other than the neon lights on the bar you don't know where you are you can't see anything it's disgusting you feel like you're in like Vietnam like you're walking through swamp water and stuff it's just it's the best but the second we can't I'm going there I'm gonna lick the floor I'm gonna do the worm make a snow angel it'll be really test it out yeah fantastic

yikes okay Corey where you going first place a little place called Jimmy Dean's down on south side Jimmy Dean's baby if the floor. Jimmy Dean's, baby. If the floor's not shaking, I don't want to be there. Couple answers, but okay. We were at Walmart the other day, and speaking of licking the floor,

we saw literally this kid with his mom who did not have a mask on. The kid's lying on the ground without shoes and doing the worm across the floor while licking the floor the most ridiculous thing i've seen that's literally that literally just pieced together what i said i was gonna do and just brought it to reality so now i have to do it i've seen five year old rooks love it all right so no one's going to nemocon we're not going to where the bachelor's film it's dude it is so the people the people we watch the show with sometimes um we actually looked into like nemocon because we were like this would be so funny for us to all like take like a couple's trip here yeah and it's so expensive like it is disgustingly expensive so it's the bougiest

so we're we ain't doing that but instead they're gonna all chase around like nuts in squirrel costumes just relive episode two you know rooks always finds his nut you know that that's true he ain't looking too hard so bachelor week five great episode a lot of bullying but a lot of bullying's left, but now there's new bullies. Yeah, can we just get two beautiful claps into our microphones? They don't have to be synchronized, but for Matt James, you know, making some decent decisions here. Making some top ten plays this episode. Let's dive right into this.

Shall we? Yeah. Let's dive right in. We start we start off super super strong these episodes we start with anna she comes in the first episode or she comes in the episode people bring up britney she's like i don't even care like f her like i just don't even care and then all of a sudden matt comes out and says it and she's like i was so out of character oh she was only sad because she got her like she showed zero remorse and up until then so like yeah she's just she's the worst she's a square but yeah it was we'll start with a speech matt's speech fine appreciate him addressing it it got that got the point across but i loved when he was saying it every chick that has been an asshole looked like a fucking deer in the headlights and looked just

scared for their life yeah which was and it looked like she's gonna crap herself which she always kind of does but like a little bit more of that time but yeah she did come out like give like a decent speech usually they're like oh i heard the house is kind of bad so like let's not do that and then they like move on yeah but like and he went immediately to talk to anna and he's such a nice human that it seemed like he was gonna let it slide because she was being so nice back he's like i know your mistakes don't make the person it's fine blah blah blah and then he's like but but but i want to create a safe space pack your bags no you said your cabs are here and but it was get out it was great and yes i felt kind of bad for anna in the moment because anna was like oh like it was out of character but then i remember the beginning of the episode i remember last episode where she's just being a terrible person zero remorse get out also also also

for 10 minutes she's leaving and she has her head in her hand looking like she's trying she's tried so hard to cry and she there was not one tear that came out of her eye that entire last sequence of her leave her whole body was just probably still focused on her mouth just like to not you know show her all of her teeth it's a nutcracker man but she literally like

she didn't cry at all she tried her hardest get your acting game up it's what happens when you don't have a heart dude and get out the house that was oh i know sorry about the episode so strong so happy and then right after that happens though victoria does a huge battle face and just immediately like yeah i'm happy she's gone like i'm sorry for all the drama your bestie just like hit the freaking road she's like i'm glad it's not me well not even that she's glad it's not her,

but that she has no one else to back her up anymore. She's the only one left. So she has to try to be the nice one now and backtrack. What did it work? What did it work? Hell no.

What's funny to me is, Catalina called this out too. Victoria's like, I'm so sorry. I was what's funny to me is like, yeah, like Catalina called this out to Victoria's like, I'm so sorry. Like I was just like kidding around. I was like, you are literally the worst. Like you are the worst person, one of the worst people that have ever been on the show.

Like, yeah, I'm just like surprised. She, even with everything going on, it's still like shocking to me that she made it further. Granted, not much further. She made it further than Anna.

I guess, I don't know. It was just interesting to me. I didn't expect Victoria even to go home this week, but we all saw it happen. I did not expect that either, and I was so, so happy. I think in terms of people you should keep and people you should let go and like how the bachelor or bachelorette could have handled a situation like that I think this is a like top five like how to handle a situation like that with all the

girls in the house or guys in the house whoever's in the house like from Matt's perspective and also the cherry on top was just like like the two people that should go home and you're not like wasting your time on like they're out. Like it actually makes me question like the producers actually have like any say in this. Like, is it him or like it was that good. I think,

I mean, I know the producers are still puppet masters, but I wouldn't give him too much credit. He's only batting 500 here. Like he handled the first situation so terribly. Like he didn't even him too much credit. He's only batting 500 here. He handled the first situation so terribly. He didn't even bring it up to anybody. I understand now it's the second time you have to bring it up.

He handled the first situation so bad. He can only go up from there. At least he handled this one correctly. Well, and I love it. Katie tells him all this stuff and he's like yeah like i was just so surprised to hear about this bullying in the house it was like um homie like two weeks ago someone else said that they got bullied out of the house and you were like all

right that's dope but like i'm gonna go kiss them all on the mouth dude's gotta check it out checking out them cheekbones yo but victoria's meltdown was incredible because she was freaking out she was like actually having a panic attack you could hear her be like it was bad first the episode where sarah fainted victoria literally said i would never fake a panic attack to get attention and then she's sitting in the corner just like two episodes later yeah but she like her meltdown was perfect because it just showed it showed exactly like who she was showed exactly why she should be going home what i my favorite is matt that's like what situation would it ever be like cool to call a girl ho she's like well it was like taken out of context and he's like so what was the context and then they like good question matt good question granted they could

have cut and like maybe we didn't see what she said but they cut to her just like word for word just like blank staring into like la la land and i was like come on like you have to muster up something there like you have to say something you have to know if he's asking you like that question or if you're saying it was taken in the wrong context you have to know that question's coming i've like they didn't cut it like they gave a few seconds of straight recording when you know they panned to her and she doesn't answer you have to know that's questions coming and have an immediate answer so let me ask you guys then let's do a hypothetical right so say i know we don't talk shit on anybody we're all perfect people so say

that you were in in a situation and matt comes up to you and he asks you and talks to you the way he did right like what is your response like how would you best get out of that situation like because you obviously still want to be there but you know what you said like how do you go about doing that one don't do it but also you just did it so go ahead at that point I don't think there's anything you do to salvage it like she did everything she could like, like, on the verge of tears and seemed very sorry. But, like, no. Like, whatever you're saying in that moment doesn't make up for what you've already done. And there's no way to salvage it.

I don't think there's a way to do it. I think the only way you can... I'll let Rooks and Cody have a say, too. But I think the only possible way for you to salvage it is like you have to be completely transparent and just be like i get your best scenario saying like you know this is all new to me being on this experience whatever the hell they have to say opportunity journey lifestyle whatever it is and just be like and just be like i've never i've never been in the situation look like i got these messages should i have said it the way

i said it and like opened up and like had that no and now like i realize i shouldn't have i think that keeps you in the house if you're playing it like you're on a game show like the freaking price is right you don't make it to the end like you're going to the showdown like yeah that's what you say that's what you say you spin the wheel you keep going like i think that keeps you there it's just straight honestly granted i don't know if they can say like i'm on a tv show like we all know they are but like i don't know if they can say that i don't think there's anything that you can possibly say because no matter what you tell them in the moment everybody can go back through and just re-watch the season and he's

gonna see everything so even if you go through the entire season and he ends up engaged like getting engaged to her if they go back and watch it or he sees any clips people send to him he's gonna be like not it's over because she lied to him the entire time yeah i i agree i don't i don't think with how she played i think the only way she talks about the possibility of britney being a sex worker and stays is if instead of talking to everybody she took it to matt first which still yeah not with zero proof there's no reason for you to do this there's no reason for you to do it i have a hunch yeah i think that's the only possible way she stays because then it'll be like oh like it comes from more of like i'm looking out

for you like i don't want you to get hurt type thing and you can frame it better but how she did it i don't think there's any way you stay because yeah there's multiple people telling matt about like you saying this stuff to everybody which which Anna said this stuff to everybody. She didn't she didn't just let it slip to Victoria. Like she literally there were like eight cuts of her last episode of bringing this up with people. Yeah, I don't I don't think there's any possible way you stay after spewing nonsense like that. I don't know. Yeah, I think if she wanted to bring it up at all, the best move was just to bring it up to Brittany

one-on-one, but no, she has to bring it up into the whole group. Because I don't even think bringing Matt into it right away is the best option. I think bringing it up to Brittany would be just to be like, hey, I heard this. Like, dispel the rumors right there before it's even a rumor. But

if that happens, if she takes that to Brittany, first off, Brittany's just going to get upset. And you know what Brittany's going to do? She's going to go to Matt and she's going to go to Matt and be like, a girl literally just asked or told me that she heard I was a sex worker. Like,

I think that's easy. Like easy to like deflect ability. Is that a word? It's easy for me to to deflect that and get Anna into deep water if Anna acted like that. You could bring that up in a really chill way, though. Can you?

You could bring it up on national television talking about... If you and her had that convo and when they're going on their walks at the very beginning of the episode, they're barely mic'd up, you can walk away and go have a have a conversation she hangs out with men for money so like there is a way to just be like hey i heard this i don't believe it but like what's going on or just like be friends with her you're both from chicago you're from the same town

the city of brotherly love exactly Exactly. Sunshine State, baby. So, I think there's a way, it's a weird topic, I don't think, it's definitely touchy, but there could be a possibility. I was talking to Zach though,

definitely a White Sox fan. Whoa, Zach, do you mean Zaddy? Zaddy, Zaddy Kirshner. Definitely a White Sox fan, not a Cubby. Yeah, not. But so, Victoria got sent home, Zaddy Kirshner. Definitely a White Sox fan. Not a Cubby. Yeah. Not.

But so Victoria got sent home. Mari got sent home. Lauren got sent home. And the Catalina Wine Mixer got sent home. All good choices. I just wish he would have switched out Serena C, I think it is, for one of them. Serena C stinks. Serena C has been chirping the entire time

I would put Serena C up with um I would put her up with MJ with like chirping cause she just said a bunch of stuff and she's like she like she was always involved in like the JB Varsity or like OG comparison or whatever like she was always saying stuff too and she just complains about time all the

time it's time for her to go I'm just like I'm so over her the next like couple cuts i feel like they're gonna be easy it's not gonna be people who've had like a lot of there's so many there's so many question marks left like even i never i won't get into that because that's later in the episode keep it going but so when victoria left though and uh chris harrison's like okay everyone say your goodbyes it like pans to her no one turns to her it looked so awkward I so bad I thought she wasn't gonna leave like they kept panning obviously like it was the setup of it and they did that on purpose so like go producers great job at work but she was like behind all the like ladies that got the rose and I was just like it like is she like is she gonna go like what's

happening right now like is she about to be like no i'm doing a sit-in like i refuse i'm saying this you can't you can't get me out i'm done calling it a sit-in is a bold but yeah she it was super awkward no one obviously cared that she was leaving and then her like going to stand up to him and be like this is a mistake or whatever the hell she said and he just didn't say anything to her was she was like he didn't even say anything to me I was like yeah get out

he's doing you a favor because he probably would be like get the fuck out of my house yeah he wasn't gonna say anything nice if he was gonna say anything so it was probably good for him to just you're a crazy lady go on get she's not she's not the brightest either because you know 15 minutes before that she's out in the little courtyard area and everybody can hear every single thing she's saying like all the other girls on the couch and she's like trash about everybody i'm the only girl who's

gonna is qualified to marry him and like all these other people are trash and don't deserve to be here like they can all hear you and even if you don't go this week that's getting past the mat too I would like to say too it you know I wasn't rooting for her I don't think anybody was I barely even think she was rooting for herself but it's a shame that she had to go on the one week that i finally looked at her her whatever cocktail rose ceremony dress and i was like wow good job great job victoria you showed up you're not wearing a dead polar bear it's all good and you know what they were like yeah she's gone cory's only here for the dresses i mean or costumes in her case we got we got more fashion to talk about later boys we got even more fashion we'll get

there we'll get there so after victoria finally kicked off the show good riddance it was the group date where they like went to a farm iveled shit for like an hour wait to anybody notice how like anybody notice how like they blurred the manure at one part Yeah, why? No, wait this dude. No this this was after this was after the one I won Because they were they were all pissed cuz they were like yeah, Rachel got awesome clothes, right? But we're sitting here shoveling shit. Yeah, that's right. The 101 was first.

Hold up. Keep going. Josie, let's go in this 101. The fashion dates are always my favorite on The Bachelor. When they buy the clothes and stuff, it's the best. One girl comes back with 40

bags and these and they're just like super smiley they're swagged out in their new clothes and all the other girls are like I literally want to cut you like all the girls on the couch if you look at their face when the person walks in with all these bags they got Louis Vuitton shoes on

these girls are like I literally want to kill you and it's the best it's my favorite the reactions were great they were very pissed and just jealous of the whole thing but i don't know if like i like him and the one-on-one was with rachel yeah and she's hot everyone knows that it's fine cool but you guys are super skeptical of her. I'm not as much. I don't know why. I just don't have a reason to be. Here's what I'll say about it, because I... I don't know. I see both sides.

I agree with Brian, is what I will say right now. But the biggest thing has been... And Claire, shout out Claire, has said it, was she has some questionable things about her social media or something, right? That's the rumor. That's the rumor. And like, okay, all right, okay.

Like, not a good look. I get that. No. But also, I don't know. Like, take the show for what the show is. I think when you start getting outside the realm of these people meeting each other for the first time spending

10 weeks or whatever and like being contestants and all that like I don't know what that whole backstory is I get it it is a story but I'm gonna take it take the show at like face value and just be like okay like this situation is how you know each other so like go and the only negative

I have with rachel up until now was she didn't really have like like that much interaction like i guess at least that was shown where i was like wow like her and matt like they're gonna be great like they're awesome i agree with what brian was saying i was like yeah like she seems normal and like she's pretty okay cool like keep her i'm not shocked she made it this far and, like, she's pretty, okay, cool, like, keep her. I'm not shocked she made it this far. And now, like, we have the one-on-one, and I was like, it didn't go bad. I don't think it was like, wow, they love each other, but I was like, you know.

I mean, they kind of said it. They're falling in love. Go, Rooks. So, my opinion on this. So, yes, and I agree with, I love love i love that i love like let's take the show at face value like yeah i know i've said like there's been rumors about her like not being the best person in her past which is fine we all got a past people can change yes but like let's like in the context of this show like they really haven't had like any deep conversation up to this point right yeah like

there's really it's been a lot of surface level it's been like one of them says something the other one wants to hear they make out matt's eyes open i'm terrified and uncomfortable but let's like like this time finally she opened up a little bit and i and i and i said this out loud like i was like good to see her like actually starting to open up because in the beginning she was like oh i don't do this and i was like, good to see her actually starting to open up. Because in the beginning, she was like, oh, I don't do this. And I was like, well, you're going to leave then. But she started opening up. And like, yeah, it's not like, it's just like, oh, yeah, I think you're out of my league.

Like, blah, blah, blah. Like that kind of stuff. Okay, yeah. But my problem is, like, this is their first deep conversation. And she throws out the, I think I'm falling in love with you thing. Yeah. And that makes me think, that that's like because typically on a show that's used to gain points like that's used to be like i need to like get this i need to get myself into his head more and like like most of the time it's disingenuous five what are we fifth episode five episodes in you saying that when we haven't seen

any deep conversation between you two it's disingenuous take like like take like abigail like abigail's conversations she had this time and her first conversation or don't compare to abigail abigail's front runner right now don't do that even brie's conversation the first night like their first one-on-one where brie was talking about how like her rough past and everything like that like yeah but even if brie said like i'm falling for you in this episode i'd be like or i'm falling in love with you i would be like like come on you're playing a chess piece yeah like you're you're just you're trying to get points and that's what bothers me about her is i don't i don't think like i don't think she's actually into him like the only thing I'll say about that is like,

I agree. I do completely agree with all of that. And I, yeah, I think she's doing that. The only thing is like, I like you really, I want like when I watch the show every single season,

I'm like, I really wonder how much interaction they have off camera because they're, they're 24 seven. Like I, I get like, again, take things for face value. We have to say what you're there 24 7 like i i get like again take things for face value we have to say what you're gonna see and like okay like i'm gonna like throw that in the trash so that's why i completely agree with what you're saying but you know that is the like that's a mystery and you don't know and that's why we're watching the show and that's why we talk about

the show like that's what it is. Yes. Well, that's the thing. As you said, there could be these conversations. We could not see it, but we're also, we're taking this at face value. We are watching the show that is being presented to us. We are seeing the characters that are being presented to us. It just makes me laugh too. Like thinking that all of that does happen, right?

Like say they have those like really deep conversations and like he does actually connect with them on an emotional level and then you like pan to the producers and they're like wow that's great cut that out let's go this shit sucks not dramatic enough but yeah i agree it's it's weird but they seem like he's really into her oh he's just gonna mix out with her constantly, so she's going to make it, like, three more weeks. I mean, he got her shoes that were worth more than $50, so, like, basically an engagement ring, I think. Yeah, that quote.

He paid for that. Well, that's... And that's another thing that bothered me. At the beginning of the date, she's like, he's really showing me, like, how he would treat me if we were together. I was like, you think this dude's taking and, like, buying you shit all the time? Like, like bro you're out of your mind like yeah he's gonna get like the xfl he's gonna get money out of this and yeah he's gonna get like ads on instagram and stuff but

he's not taking you shopping every day chick like relax yeah i really thought he was gonna whip out a glass slipper i thought that's what was gonna to happen. It'd be like, oh, Cinderella. And I was like, it's a shoe? Like, it's just a straight up regular shoe? Yeah, it's got red on the heel. I know that's significant, but okay. But yeah, so that day was interesting. Nothing too ridiculous

happened, which is good. Show needed to settle down a little bit after all the drama. Yeah, drama, drama but drama drama drama let's go try on dresses what's the kevin quote from the office let's go shopping all the boys are over here like why i honor but after that was the group date which i prematurely got ahead to now we're shoveling shit, baby. Going to a farm, which there's no way he chose to do that. I know he's trying to say he's from North Carolina and whatever, but, like, there's no way.

Can we talk about how the menorah was blurred out? I don't know why. This is such, I don't understand it. I don't know. Maybe it's because I see menorah every day i don't know well and i don't i don't understand either like because like there has not there's really hasn't been like other there's a few seasons where like religion has kind of been like a topic but i feel like this one especially out the gates was like very like

religious heavy and then like now they're blurring menorahs. Maybe it was dick shape, man. I don't know. Can't put that on TV. Do they ever say, I'm really trying to just remember back and I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm reaching and just making this up. Do they ever say

I'm Catholic and I want to wait until marriage or they just say I want to wait until marriage? I don't know if that's his thing. It's definitely not his thing. Not his thing, I'm just saying other seasons. Because I know other seasons there have been contestants that are like, I'm

a virgin, I'm going to wait until marriage. But I don't know if they've ever said I am, and then said their religion. I just wanted to say the role reversal though in this so I don't know if you remember last week Corey was saying MJ got the rose now Pippen has to get the rose

and then Piper got it so because then the role reversal this episode because you know usually Pippen gives MJ the dimes like assists all day today though last night whatever MJ with the assist of Pippin because Piper's back there getting the interview and she starts like throwing things at Matt and he just runs through the barn right into Piper's arms they start making out she peers back and it's just shock. It like ruined the date for everybody too.

They're like, he's kissing other girls. Who would have thought? Oh my goodness. But do you think, or more of a steal though? Maybe a steal. Do you think,

I think if, I think if MJC's Pippen playing that well, he's going to be like, yo dude, well, I'm the number one. You're two. Like what's happening here? Like there's a, there's a i'm the number one you're two like what's

happening here like there's a there's a class system going on and you're not it like i would like to say it definitely was an assist from jordan to pippen because like mj was chasing matt and forcing matt out piper pipe pippen didn't come over and take him. You know, it wasn't a steal. The mat was passed through the defense, through the barn, ended up right in Pippen's hands, flushed down two points. MJ was on a fast break,

lost control of the ball. Pippen was just standing down there and it just wound up in her hands and she was like, all right, I'm just going to lay up. For MJ to be on a fast break, that would mean that she would have to be doing well. She was not doing well. She was chasing Matt and like throwing eggs

at her and shit. Cody, did you have something to say? I was just gonna say that was a straight alley-oop slam dunk assist. Between the legs, right into the arms, bam. I'm gonna say it. I don't like the between the legs metaphor we can throw that one out

yeah let's toss that one that's at least fantasy sweet Cabo I don't think we talk about that here off the backboard right there you go one thing I didn't enjoy about the date was people are crumbling man we're starting to see them crumble.

Abigail was crumbling. I was like, Abigail, you are a front runner. You, she bounced back though. Yeah. She,

she, we'll talk about that. She bounced back in a huge way, but then like, uh, Michelle, Michelle is like, Oh my God,

that group date was a lot. I was like, you've been here a week. Shut your mouth. You've literally been here one week. Like she was like crying and stuff. I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, Matt is not, like, you guys were on a date and you made a joke.

This man just kept going, like, like, don't act like you're all of a sudden, like, emotionally attached to this guy. I don't know, though, dude. Like, she's, they're playing catch up again so like the emotions that all the girls feel about the group dates and all that crap and garbage in episode two is like they're gonna have those feelings in this episode like i'm not i agree i dislike it but i dislike it in the same way that i dislike episode two with the other girls like i'm not gonna be like it's weak whatever and you're like being an idiot although to be fair uh devil's advocate for myself uh abigail seemed pretty freaking comfortable after her one-on-one and then seeing him go on group dates so you know what yeah okay i'll shut up i'm gonna take a

sip of my beer see yourself out there we're gonna let's move on to like their date or like uh it was the cocktail the cocktail after abigail coming in strong but like so and like she started talking she was like i feel like i would disappoint you because like there'd be a high possibility that our kids would be deaf and i was like who says that like i at first i was like why would you say that like who would ever care and then she's like yeah because my dad left after like we got our like like cochlear implant and i was like oh i'm a bad person like i was like i'm literally a bad person but i was like yeah i was like why would you open with that and then she started telling this telling the story and i was like oh geez like i'm gonna sit here and shut up like

yeah when it started that conversation started it was like slowly moving into really like sad music and i was like oh crap is she gonna get sent home this is how i'm supposed to feel i was like oh no and then it like became like softer and she like went into her whole thing i was like okay no this is a good that i feel like that conversation was probably the most real conversation i've seen on the batch like that was straight up like this is my future this could be your future this is my past this is the problems i've had and like i'm just being honest like it's a possibility like it might not happen like i don't know what the percentages are but like i'm a like big supporter of talk about it just because it might not happen like don't ignore it like and she was doing that i

thought that was like i don't know i'm gonna be i'm gonna feel some type of way if she goes home that's like that's how i feel at this point there's no way he does for another couple weeks purely i think i mean i think she's definitely final three after that whole thing for sure and just for his his dad to have his family too in the same situation like they connect that's just like one huge thing one big life moment that you connect on that like you immediately connect on that way more than half the other people so like yeah and she was already like like front runner like of the top three already and then you're gonna talk about that yeah she was sliding down though she like had a really good start that had a little lull just yeah she's just a little a

little quiet but i think that's like part of her is that she's not like she's not like all in his face and like being obnoxious and stuff like she's gonna get time when she gets time yeah it worked out for her though um all right but but you know i love i love this conversation and i think as long as she like just because she was like like having doubts and wigging out as long as she keeps her head on straight and doesn't crumble and like spiral herself i think she's guaranteed top three 100 yeah no which after that conversation i can't see her spiraling out like unless there's more which i don't know her life like yeah there could be more stuff that like is deeply emotional and you

think about which okay but you got that out so i feel like she's got to be like confident in whatever else might be on her mind you know she also got the rose right after that so like yeah obviously she's out for another week she's like that who was the one girl that was sidetracked she was like yeah i think i got the rose i can't remember who that was but then she just got plowed over i don't know all right anyway we'll check tape i'm not sure all i know is it was a great strategy to bring it up at this time too because you're not going to bring that up on a one-on-one you know you're going to get the rose. You bring it up on the group date, automatic

rose. You're knocking out every single other girl. Way to take the love right out of her. Huge game move. I can't help but think of this as a game. Huge game move. It's not a game, Cody. This is real life. This is people's emotions. They're finding love. They're on national TV tv stop being such a robot

and on the talk of real life human emotion we are moving on to kit who okay first off okay i got a lot to say about kit first kit was one of the ones saying very mean things to people. And then this past week was like, you guys, like, I'm so glad the toxicity in the house is gone. Like, oh, and I was like. She played it great. Boy. Yeah. I mean, she she she acted like a 21 year old.

So. But yeah, I like my thing with Kit is like i don't want to like i i don't think like i don't think she has very much personality i don't think she's really gone like granted like yeah there could be a lot of life things that i don't know about but like growing up she's she was telling matt her problems was like yeah like i just like work in the industry and like i roll up in like bentley's and it's all about my mom's just famous and i was like it's like yeah your life sounds terrible like yeah it's like more than first world problems it's like one percent yeah top one percent problems how do how old is matt do we know i don't know 29 29 i mean it's it's 21 year old stuff like i'm not gonna blame

her like she's just not at that point in her life which like we were all like you know i want to go to indigo and just dance like you know that's how we were at 21 also why did she go to college what's happening she's 21 she just graduated early she's rich what do you yeah she probably she probably didn't go to school i mean she's she said she grew up in like she's like born and raised in like manhattan like she's definitely just chilling if matt if matt's 29 though we are barely making this like a reasonable situation because the rule is half your age plus seven 29 puts you at 21 and a half so we are right there like oh we are right there playing with fire but yeah i agree with everything you guys said of like i don't hate her i don't

think she has a bad personality i think she's very pretty she just seems like sort of normal but like she just does seem super young i just like out of her depth like even like 21 like i just feel like she hasn't been in a serious relationship like you'd be 21 and have had a serious relationship that like you just like i feel like you go through that and then you understand what you want like i feel like she's never really gone through that maybe i'm wrong but like yeah it just seems like she is like i don't know like dating the date i don't know but you're on a game show she was when she was talking to matt about like oh how far i've come and how far i've opened up it seemed weird because it's like i don't think that's the point of this it's not

for you to just like learn how to date it's for you to like connect with that guy and like he was real nice about it but i feel like he seemed kind of just like i don't know yeah yeah i don't like i don't like this thing i don't dislike kit i just it's very apparent like one she's young two like i don't think she's really like had that much like life experience you know what i mean like yeah as corey was saying like i look back at myself at like like, look at yourself at 18. Then look at yourself at, like, 19. Even, like, that one year. Like, you, like, especially, like, living on your own and stuff like that.

Like, you learn so much. Like, she said, like, she says she's still at home, like, with her, like, mom and stuff like that. Like, there's no way you've had that much, like, life experience yet. Like, there's no way. First, I want to say, Corey, thank you for also mentioning that this is a game show uh but we can also see this in her react in her reaction where she gets a card from matt that literally just says at dinner at my place breaks down for like 15 minutes this is the most sincere the most deep message oh i just cannot wait i've never had a guy cook me dinner and it's at his place

i was waiting i was dying i was waiting for him to be like like she opens the door right and then he's in like an apron and then there's just like a giant hello fresh ad like bada boom there it is they just paid for this hey welcome like super insincere yeah rachel gets like 30 000 in clothes she gets a hello fresh meal for 15 i and i will say too though like i i'm i don't know like i don't want to like harp on her for her age but i do feel like it would be much harder if we didn't know her age because we'd be, what's up with this girl? She seems immature. Not immature, but she seems not like what she knows

what she wants and all that. And now we have the knowledge of she's 21. We all know how we were at that age. And we're like, okay. I don't want it to be like, you know, we're looking at her and being like, oh, she's young and that's why we're gonna like harp on her no

like I would be much harder if I didn't know she was at that point of her life you know I mean if you're at 30 and you're acting like that there's something wrong with Victoria at Victoria she's more mature than Victoria for sure

yeah Victoria's not like a 4th grade level yeah no mature I mean Victoria's on the fourth grade level. No, mature. I mean, Victoria's on freaking Pluto, so it's not the hardest thing to be. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, let's stop trashing on Kit.

We can move on from that. I feel bad. I don't feel bad. Do you, Kit? You're doing great. You're doing great, sweetie. Kit, I hope you have your driver's license. I hope your butler doesn't, like,

stop you from getting your driver's license. Kit now has years, though. Kit now has years, though, to get on, like, the Bachelor in Paradise shows. She's only 21. She's got, like, 15 years ahead of us. That's true. We're gonna be talking about Kit for years. We're going to be talking about Kip for years. But that whole MJ drama kind of came to an end after that date.

And that's kind of where that started bubbling up. But it looks like it's going to be ended quickly. So at least it's not going to be the whole rest of the season like Victoria was for the first half. So that's good. MJ, she did herself a disservice by not like, like how, like back to the other conversation, like what would you have done situation? I would have like first, like you have to own up to it like a little bit.

Like there's been so many talks of bullying at this point. You have to believe that like, he's probably heard this from more than one person. So like, you have to like you can't just you can't just say 47 times i lead by example you're not like you're not interviewing to be captain on a high school football team like literally just i had no idea what she meant by that either she just kind of thrown out phrases that make you sound good it was it was stupid it was very very stupid but

like if she would i think if she would have owned up to it and then been like yeah you know what like i was like a little like i didn't like like other girls coming in just because like i feel like that was like maybe unfair to us or like just like say like how you genuinely felt and be like oh yeah and other people were like jumping on them and i just like like i don't know like you don't say you followed but you just be like oh like everybody was kind of like saying things and i just like got kind of caught up in it or something like that yeah like like it's perfect like be like you could literally just be like oh yeah when i like saw a new girl come up and kiss you like after like seeing you for 30 seconds like i haven't kissed you and i've like talked to you for weeks now and like i'm really forging something like there's just so many like

so many ways you could have made this like fine but you say i lead by example 72 times and like be like i've never heard of these accusations like and just like speaking bullshit in his face. Like, come on. I have a question to perpetuate the MJ Pippen metaphor. So I am one, not a basketball fan. Sorry. Two, Bulls fan? No. So I didn't watch too much of mj back in the day but do you think mj would own up if he was like the cameras 24 7 in the locker room being kind of the dick like he would probably in an interview

be like i lead by example you know i just like i gotta hang like me and pippin we're trying to just like get it done like we got rodman on the side like yeah he's doing his job like i'm just going straightforward like nose of grindstone. That's what it is. This is not a good point. Do not entertain this right now. No. I'm just saying I want to perpetuate this metaphor so everybody

gets it. Corey, I think for next week we need to come up with an entire Bulls lineup. Every player is somebody who's left in this show. And then maybe... Victoria's already tennis Rodman. Nah, she's gone. She's somebody who got left in this show and then maybe is already dennis rodman no she's gone she's somebody who got traded away no she's wearing the outfits like a maniac yeah that's dennis rodman no but i hope that mj leaves for like two episodes and then comes back just like mj did it'll be i would i would love to see that happen.

I would freak out just for the metaphor to actually work. It would be so dumb, but that's my hope. Hot take. Katie, Steve Kerr. That's it. She's the glue. Okay. Yeah.

Can we write this down? She's out there doing things that you don't think about, but they're really beneficial for the whole entire team. I would say so, yeah. Brooks. Better take. Katie is Phil Jackson, dude. She is literally at the helm.

She's the one calling the shots. She's making moves. She's keeping people's heads in the game. She's keeping the peace, yeah. No, you know what? I'm sticking to the Steve Kerr. We have to do this now. I'm stick to the steve kerr i'm sticking to steve kerr because katie i'm still thinking katie's gonna be bachelorette and you know what happened to

steve kerr after he retired as a player he went on he did bigger things as a coach yeah i like the storyline if it's oh man rooks this is our project this week. Because they're not NBA guys. We'll figure this out. No. We'll figure this out. But if there's one thing that Brian and I know, it's Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr and sports metaphors. Me and Dylan and Corey talked in sports metaphors the entire way through college when talking about girls.

So, like, I got it in the back of my head. I learned more basketball from, like, trying to talk about girls in front of them. That's true. It was my un classic yeah yeah i knew the whole lineup of like the heat at one point just because i needed to talk about do you think i would know who verijal is without metaph. No, that's why I'm so confused. Oh, we'll have to tell you. We'll talk about it when you're older, Cody. Anyway.

So the MJ drama though, coming to a head. I really don't know. I think she was in the preview for next week, though, so I don't know if she's going home or not. It's the two-on-one with her and Yesenia. First off, what is with these girls' outfits, man? MJ shows up.

It's two-on-one. Do it. Wearing a Civil War coat. Dude, she's trying to look like Ulysses S. Grant going to war. Like, what are you wearing? What are you wearing, dude? What is those?

Hate it. Hate it. Yeah, not a good look. Not a good look on MJ's part. That's more of a Dennis Rodman move, am I right, boys? But, uh... You can't change her from being MJ, though. No. No, that's MJ. Unless, unless

Katie Stildo also named MJ. So... Oh, yeah. It might be a swap. Okay, so the dildo's MJ, and then MJ is Dennis Rod. No, MJ's like... We're losing the viewers, boys.

We can't make these connections. We gotta pause that. We need a flowchart. We need some graphs. We need to figure it out. No, but back to the Roof's point, I completely, completely agree. We talked about it before this podcast.

Sorry, guys, we talk about things before we record them. But MJ could have walked out of there being like, fine, we all make mistakes. this podcast sorry guys we talk about things before we record them but like she like mj could have walked out of there being like fine like we all make mistakes like you know you weren't bullying you were a part of the issue you can admit when you're wrong like that makes you human it's okay and she chose to be like no no i don't remember that like girl we got you on tape like this camera this camera this camera let the people know what you got going on in your life like bullying it's crazy like i don't understand how these people don't like realize everything you're doing is monitored like i like

you got people thinking like the government's on you 24 7 like that may be seeming crazy yeah might be a thing but also like people on game people on game shows, yeah, maybe feel that way. Like, that's a problem. I love the Hot Ones reference, though. That would be a great date on the show. Oh. That hack. Honestly.

Get him to get it. Let's send him an email. You'll see the real personalities come out when you don't know what's coming out. You give him the bomb is it sean evans it's sean evans right at sean evans we're coming for you a little pause in the podcast and a little oh yeah so the preview for the next week has heather coming in which i've heard the name before and i've seen stuff about it i have no clue who she is so rooks phyllis okay heather colton season her job description literally the whole season was never been kissed she came on

the show the only talking point about her which was super annoying because the whole season all they talked about was colton being a fucking virgin the entire time yeah so anytime heather came up it was like oh well like you've never even been kissed and so that was talked about a thousand times finally farther down the line her and colton kiss like it was either that same episode or the next one heather sent herself home so it was like what like what did you that's a bad look though for colin because it's like i've never had a kiss and then kiss it's like see ya've never had a kiss, and then a kiss is like, see ya. Colton's the worst.

But Colton also, when she sent herself home, had like five other girls send themselves home. Really? So it's like, half of them knew they were going home. And they saw another girl do it. So they were like, oh, I'm going to save myself the embarrassment of going to the rose ceremony and not getting a rose. I'm just going to send myself home. Writing on the wall. Dude, that must suck. Could you imagine being The Bachelor and being like, how many girls were left at the time?

Probably like, it was like probably like 12 people left. So there's 12 people left and there's at least two girls who are like, nah, dude, I'm out. Like I would be a little depressed for maybe the rest of my life i don't know literally the best part of all of it was every time one girl left they said something super like generic and cryptic to colden that made him just like poop himself so like one girl sending herself home she's like you really shouldn't trust these girls and then she just turns and walks away and gets in the van and then the next girl like the same night another girl would send herself home and she was like yeah like you just don't know who you're dealing with and then she'd get in the van

that's all she said and like it happened with multiple girls and colton's just like this sweaty virgin on national television just like so nervous boys out there doing an escape room and he doesn't even freaking know it i would be freaking out too that's so just sketchy and just it was great heather literally came on the show got kissed sent herself home so why is she coming back though like i don't know trying to get that second kiss dog i don't want to look in i don't like looking at anything during the season because, like, you get spoiled every time. All the answers are out there, and you can figure it out.

But, yeah, I don't like looking at it. Yeah. I have no clue why she's still here. I'm assuming she just wants to be on TV and maybe get some more. She's probably, her Instagram probably didn't take off. She's back for more. I don't know.

Is she, was she on Bachelor in Paradise or anything like that afterwards do you know um she she might have been on paradise that would make sense to me if she like is trying to stay on tv and that's like what this play is but if she was on nothing and then came back and this is the only episode then that's a little bit more authentic for her to come back which is better but i don't know it's just strange i've reached out to my sources i will be confirming or um denying that she was on paradise okay thank god that's why we turned to you rooks for these uh breakthroughs well while we're waiting on that that's the end of the episode

next episode's gonna be sick it's time to make the picks boys Super Bowl coming up in a week we already did make picks but do you still feel the same way I'm saying Bachelor don't get ahead of yourself

we gotta make our picks every week cause things change you know okay I'll pull up the list well do we I'll go up the list. Tectonic plates shift, you know? Well, do we... I'll go first, because I know who I picked last week. It was a safe choice. It's still a safe choice. Last week, who'd you pick? Rooks, what do you have to say?

My sources are saying that Heather was not on Paradise. Okay. Then I like that her coming on a little bit more, because she seems a little less... But can we trust your sources? Who's your source? Shout out. Can't say it.

Okay. Keep it a secret. Yeah. They would get a lot of, they'd get a lot of questions going forward. All right. So I will take my prediction for next week because last week was kind of like a cop out because I'm a little bitch sometimes. I picked Abigail last week because I couldn't think.

You know what? Sometimes you don't want to go on a risk and you're going to play it safe and abigail she you know we've said it she's top three for sure she is like unless she ruins it which i don't think she will she seems great she's top three uh and but to but to change it up a little bit because i don't want to continuously be a little bitch and play it safe i'm gonna say i'll say rachel because she you know i liked her and she had a better week this week having the one-on-one and didn't ruin it and i feel like that's what a one-on-one is all about that's my pick this week what do you gotta say cody uh so for this week i'm gonna go with an even more of an underdog maybe i'll see what you guys think i'm gonna go with piper uh because the editing she was included so much and it kind of like marks her as almost like an underdog but then on the group date like he went

right for her like there was not a doubt in his mind so like i could see that being good signs for the future yeah i fully agree he ran away from the group of girls to go make out with her and like it wasn't like he walked up and she tried to kiss him it was like he was all over her it was like stopped kissing and then came back again and then did it again and then did it again it was just like he was he was all over like good exactly he seems i don't think that's as an obvious safe choice but i do think that's still a safe choice because obviously he's last week i went with michelle and she got like a rose already i just was trying not to get it like another elimination so that's fair. I don't have a hot take on this at all,

but I have a decently thought out explanation. Lukewarm take. Lukewarm take. Room temp take. I think Rachel with, I agree with Corey, because I think Abigail is going to be in the top three. Rachel's going to be in the top three. I think Katie comes out

at four. Then the third, I don't know who's gonna be but katie becomes bachelorette because they're out of like thank you thank you abigail is the one that everyone thinks he should pick and doesn't and then he gets together with rachel just because like they're just like boring and generic and she's and that's the mistake he makes and then they break up because that's always what's gonna happen and then he goes and then he goes to abigail they start dating who knows what happens no he's not gonna pilot pete it and then just date that's what i was gonna say i was gonna say that's a pile of pete you guys every relationship from the

bachelor works out what are you talking about that's the point of the show it works 20 of the time all the time um i'm gonna pick i i think i'm i think i'm sticking with abigail i'm not cody dude cody would pick anna shot cody didn't pick anna last week um but no i'm going i'm gonna go with abigail i just i can't i can't have me on record saying that i think racial is gonna win i don't want her to i don't enjoy her yeah i'll enjoy abigail i want abigail to win that's my pick all right not many hot takes but i don't think there's ever really gonna be a hot well and one now we're getting we're getting down to the nitty-gritty you know what i mean now it's either like contenders or pretenders like it's either

people that are going home in the coming weeks or there's like three that are gonna win yeah they're pretty obvious on who's like gonna make it pretty far so and uh speaking of going away we talked about victoria's polar bear rap whatever i just want to say that chelsea brought it back it's not gone it just switched people it's not the same one she was wearing like a giant polar bear looking jacket thing fairly similar yes wait was that the black one it was like a black no it was like white i was white with like black lines on it though but it was still like super poofy and looked like a polar bear super off topic we don't have to we don't have to continue it well when kit showed up for a date she was wearing her jacket on her shoulders and not around her and it just i just don't have to continue it well when kit showed up for a date she was wearing her jacket on her

shoulders and not around her and it just i just don't like that like it makes no sense like i get claire shout out man claire was trying to tell me it's fashion i'm like great like it just makes no sense to me like because she didn't need the extra puffy black jacket over top she had a jean jacket outfit look great with the jean jacket really really gave me something to nitpick and we know that's what we do here i'm still hung up on it we're a day later i will be hung up on it tomorrow maybe next week but i just just anyway we can move on eyes her clothes man it's just like i don't worry like why wear a jacket on your shoulder another comment on kit though is she constantly has a runny nose i don't

know if anybody else has noticed that they always zoom in and i don't know if it's the way she like does her lip gloss and makeup but it always looks red and it looks like it's coming cody you know what it is it's the it's the whoville it's the whoville cindy lou who knows it looks like a little tiny thing and it's like it just looks like she has a running i get i know what you're 100 i'm with you thank you cody such a weird thing to pick up on but what is happening i pick up on the dumbest things i completely agree with that fact don't get me started you said that don't get me started about how much you said talks with his tongue every time he's pauses he like put sticks his tongue out or like licks his teeth or does something with his tongue.

Every time. Yeah, he like mouth guy. So now we know where Cody's looking whenever Matt's talking. Cody's just like, I wish I was that tongue. Hey, you don't know my life. Maybe I'm partially deaf and need to read lips. You don't know me. Alright, can we move on to this?

This is getting weird. Let's move on to this let's get weird let's talk like let's move on to some sports thank you all right take note yeah all right so super bowl's coming up this week i was hoping there was going to be some like drama kind of i wanted there to be some covid stuff to talk about i didn't want any of the quarterbacks or like big players to get covid because like i want it to be a legitimate game brian out here rooting for covid bad guy 2021 i mean it just makes things interesting it's not a real season obviously so it doesn't really count there's an asterisk made up and the points don't matter yeah but so there was a little bit of covid stuff but not really it was the backup center for the kansas city chiefs and a receiver for the chiefs donardo robinson both were not tested positive but were like contact tracing they were like close people to

it it was through like their barber which was random but so they might be out if they end up testing positive but if they're fine they can still play but so there hasn't been any covid drama which is good i I think that's, lets the game. I'm glad. Yeah. Yeah. Let's the game just progress. Let it be normal.

Let us just actually feel like it's normal game for once. So Super Bowl, we already made our picks last week. We're split down the middle. Two of us want Brady to win. Two of us want Holmes to win. Do we still,

granted nothing has changed, do we still all agree with that? I have not changed. No, I'm still Chiefs. Like, I still stick it. Cody's still Chiefs. I'm still Tampa Bay. I'm still Chiefs.

I'm on Chiefs' side then. We were split. That's what I said last week. If Brady wins, he wins and he's going to come back next year. You said Tampa Bay. I don't know. I don't really care. Brady's going to win and then come back next year and then win again, or he's going to lose and be really fired up and want to come back next year

and win. How old is he? Is he 42? I think it's 42. 42. I saw some ESPN, I don't know, some reporter asked him, do you think you see yourself playing past 45? Which also, can we just stop with these questions with Brady?

Brady's going to play till he's 80 if he can. Like, we all know that. So I'm kind of done with these questions. He was like, yeah, like, I see, again, I'm going to go back to Dwight. I see that as a realistic possibility. Yeah. Like 45, like for sure. If homeboy is still making it to the super bowl why should he stop like it's the

dumbest thing to me that people are like oh man he's so old like no like no like you guys aren't hockey i know that but like gordy how played till he was like 50 something like if your body lets you do it like make money have fun you're younger yager is still playing right yeah uh not not an nhl but yes he's out there having a life homeboy is just like a site like if you're just one of those people that like likes to be in shape and you're that athletic and had that career yeah like why would you not yeah so dumb it's not like he takes big hits and like this is what he's done his entire life obviously he just loves playing football so like same with Peyton Manning the only reason Peyton Manning stopped playing was because his body like fell apart if his body was still working he was

gonna continue playing there's no doubt in my mind the the thing with being old is like okay Brady's gonna say at 42 he's gonna play till he's like 90 and gets hit and dies on the field but like okay if that one can hope 40 if at 45 in the offseason he's like oh like i have arthritis in my hand like okay then he's gonna stop like it doesn't matter you can retire at any point yeah it'll change quick his body will deteriorate a lot faster i think it's older too so who knows either way no one likes brady so we can move on but i do i do want to talk about i so i i got in on a uh what's it called super bowl squares is it dylan's no no no no go with dylan's because i was already doing one i'm like okay how many do you have to do how many squares

can i keep track of you no offense. Love you, Dylan. Because I know you're going to listen. But I already did one. Like, my numbers were, oh my god, they were so bad. It was two and two. So great. Twelve and twelve at half. Awesome.

Fantastic. Love it. And then the other numbers I had were like five and four. That's better. That's doable. But also. That's way better like five and four. That's better. That's doable. But also... That's way better than two and two. Five and four is Claire's square, which means I don't win, which means I'm still sad.

Joint bank account? Share that money. You're right. You're paying for dinner anyway. We'll get on that. Yeah. But so the actual drama that did happen the week in between the last playoff game the super bowl not the pro bowl no one freaking cares was there even a pro bowl anyone know i think it was didn't they play video games it was on madden i think that's kind of dope that's kind of i think it was

on madden wait were the players actually playing or were they like yeah yeah i i have no idea i saw a clip of marshall lynch play. So I remember that actually. But yeah, Marshawn Lynch didn't make the Pro Bowl. He wasn't in the Pro Bowl though. I don't know. But I saw him play Madden this weekend. I would love to see these offensive linemen playing their own player in Madden and all they're doing is drop-stepping every single play.

Imagine spending three and a half hours just going down on your L-stick. First of all, I will say don't hate because we have a topic later on. It's called NCAA football, which we will get to, but don't hate Cody because in college, your boys did play four team NCAA football. Cause obviously you're with your buddies. You're trying to win national championships. You create a team, you play four people on a team.

What happens? You've got a quarterback. You got a running back. You're trying to win national championships. You create a team. You play four people on a team. What happens? You've got a quarterback. You've got a running back. You've got a receiver. Who's left? I don't know. Maybe you're going to go out there and block left tackle and protect your quarterback. And maybe you're going to do a fantastic job.

There's only five interior linemen. You've got six other options. Don't give me that. Or you play running back and when you're doing some option plays, you fake a run, you block a little bit for QB. He's a little mobile. He gets out of his pocket.

Boom. Touchdown. National championship. Are you watching a game currently? That seems very live action right there. I mean, my mind is live action. I would hope it's not 2d cartoons. Your mind animated. Anyway, let's keep it.

I want to get that checked out. There's a lot of actually interesting free Asian quarterbacks this off season that are either going to be traded or re-signed or whatever. And they actually kicked that off this week with Matthew Stafford getting traded to the Rams in exchange for a ridiculous amount of picks and a player so his two future first round picks a third round pick and Jared Goff just get Matt Stafford which I love Matthew Stafford he's won me plenty of fantasy football games with Calvin Johnson on his team he's a stud he just plays through injuries he just slings the ball he's awesome he like never complains but that's so

much to give up for him so i i will do i will play the part of devil's advocate because i don't know if i'm gonna assume here but i assume we all agree that that's a lot to give up for a quarterback right well not even just a quarterback for matt stafford for stafford i think okay so maybe i'll rephrase my verbiage i'm gonna use here i think that we can all agree the la Rams are freaking great, right? And they have... Cardinals fan here. They suck. They're the worst.

They made the playoffs a lot recently, though. They have a... Okay, as an Eagles fan who doesn't have a very great team right now, they have a great team that are... They're going to make the playoffs most likely. And in the playoffs, you want somebody that can perform at the quarterback level i think

if they if management thinks that that was the missing piece to win them a championship and everybody knows like you need to win a championship that's what makes your team like valuable okay like if you think matt stafford is that missing piece go out and get him he's available we've all seen like he is like a franchise quarterback he does have that talent like that's been stated I don't think I'm being like outside the box saying that but I do agree that's a lot to give up I just think you know if that's what they value him as okay go ahead go ahead and just do it. But it was a lot to give up. I mean, I get that, because that was kind of the only missing

piece. Their running game was really good. Their receivers are really good. Their D-line is insane. Their whole defense is great. Sometimes, a couple teams they played kind of chopped them up really easily, but they have a lot of playmakers on defense, and if their offense actually would take care of the ball it would give their defense a break and

synergy blah blah blah they would all be better yeah so if you're right if that is the one missing piece and they just want to win a championship next year that's the move they made before we get into big arguments about this i'm trying to play devil's advocate because i believe that they gave up a lot of shit for matt stafford so that's the only thing i'm saying is if that's where you if you look at your whole team you're like holy shit we love our team there's nothing we would change and that quarterback is up for grabs and that's the position that you think you need to change to win a super bowl okay like go and make that make that attempt and do it yeah we could be

sitting here next year and laughing at the fact that they did that but they did it i think this move i don't really understand it on the lions part were they upset like were they not happy with stafford because i know there was like a lot of talk about the rams not being super happy with golf and issues there but yeah the rant the rams wanted golf out especially with he has a massive contract yeah yeah yeah and stafford didn't want to be on the lines anymore either okay stafford was requesting a trade i think okay and also sorry cody to put it in perspective but uh stafford or golf's contract is better than quince's i mean that's believable no but yeah you can tell that the lines knew what stafford was worth to their team i really don't know what they're gonna do

with golf because golf heads like i feel like he had more weapons with the rams than he's gonna have with the lines and his i was looking up his stats his average yards per attempt is only like seven like he's not chucking the ball downfield like that's pretty short yardage and he threw 13 picks with that so and the lions don't have a running game or like a stellar defense to rely on either so they're not going to be good but you got two future first round picks in a third round like you pick up another quarterback honestly that's true like i think that's i think honestly that's going to be their move if golf's going to play like he did in la either they're playing to not be a contender anytime soon or they're going to have to get another quarterback in the draft and then use golf as a placeholder

while that guy grows yeah brooks what are you thinking about this trade i for from the lion standpoint i think like i mean i I think they win hard on this. Like, Stafford doesn't want to be there. Stafford's aging. And, like, either, like, Stafford was good. Like, I just feel like he was kind of over it there. He's been getting the shit kicked out of him there for years. Like, not necessarily on the record, but, like, he gets hit a lot.

Like, they've had, like, multiple head coaches head coaches like they've just had so much going on so i think it's good you get him out i love like the future picks lions aren't winning a super bowl in the next three years no they're not like no they have they have a lot of young talent though they have a lot of young playmakers i like love galladay love deandre swift yeah their defense i mean they have a kuda and that's like that's about it their defense uh uh amani or amani oruari go stay baby we are he's fine he's good he's fine he plays in the nfl cory with that pence bias you're right i'm biased yeah he plays on a defense that you just agreed was not very good i yeah you're right you know what if we're gonna

if we're gonna talk penn state secondary at least like you gotta stick with amos and that's that's it yeah maybe maybe throw troy apki in there too he's been playing well steven ojaba ojabong damn i fucked that up no we're gonna bypass that but um for for the lions i love a straight you get future picks like they're not winning a super bowl anytime soon and then like you do have golf there like golf has shown signs of like success i just like i think he was very much a system guy like i don't think um like a lot of a lot of his stuff especially like being a cards fan I do sometimes put the rams on and I want to see like what they're working with and stuff a lot of his successful games is when they get their run game going and he's like it's play action play action play action play action play action um or like

like Cody was saying about his like attempts like're very short passes, like west coasted down the field. But I think Goff is a really good person you put in. He's going to win some games. He's going to lose. I don't think he's like, he's not going to be detrimental to your team, but he's like, obviously not going to be like the Pro Bowl standout.

But you have him there for a few years while you racked up these picks. Now you start like putting pieces in place to be successful in the future. I think it's, I think it's a great, I think it's great for them. Rams. I mean,

I, I I'm with burn on this. I love Stafford. I really, I've, I've always loved Stafford. He's a, he's a gunslinger.

Like he just chucks the ball. I love it. Had, had Calvin Johnson multiple years in in fantasy so like i've always grown i've been very fond of matthew stafford but um i think i think if he pans out it's great i just think it's a lot riding on an older quarterback who has taken a lot of hits in his career on and the rams have a very aging offensive line too like i don't I don't know if they can protect them very well so I think that it might be an issue but Sean McVay always thinks he's the smartest person in the NFL and he'll I guess he'll make it work for him but I just don't

think it's I don't think the Rams won the way the Lions did. Yeah. Yeah. I was just looking at Matthew Stafford's seasons. So the Lions went 0-16 in 0-8, and his rookie year was 2009. So he was, like, coming into the fire. And I think he went, it says he went 2-8 as a starter his rookie season. So, like, he's been dealing with that his entire career. They peaked at, they went 11-5 in 14, and then have been on the decline since. So I can understand him wanting to get out of there,

especially losing receivers like Calvin Johnson. I'm sure that was like, he's probably been having these thoughts since then. Yeah. Also, Cardinals bias. Sean McVay thinks he's the greatest. Oh, yeah. I hate the Rams.

I hate the Seahawks. It's fine. I'm going to be honest. I don't pay attention that much, but I just wanted to. I hate the Seahawks. It's fine. I don't, I'm going to say, I'm going to be honest. I don't pay attention, attention that much, but I just wanted to point out for the listeners just to make sure they got that. Who's older McVay or Stafford.

Stafford. McVay. No, McVay is young. McVay is definitely older than Stafford though. Was it in the, was it in our podcast notes that they were both in yeah so there was when this trade happened sean mcfay and his fiancee were in cabo and then do

you mean fiance do you mean fiancee fiancee and then stafford and his wife were also in cabo at the exact same resort together so they were like got the deal done went and had dinner together like stafford is living the life starting from that point on like going from detroit's a gross city we're gonna say then going to la also can be a gross city but like la is kind of gross too but he's a millionaire he's living on the nice side of la he'll be fine and then he's in cabo just like hanging out with the coach and both their wives like that's such a change and do you think he's just winning do you think sean mcveigh was like i don't i don't know like i this could be me like making this crap up but i feel like mcveigh and goth had a connection so do you think he automatically was like just dropped him like a bad habit and Goff had a connection. So do you think he automatically was like,

just dropped them like a bad habit and was like, oh, we got Stafford? Fantastic. Or do you think he was like, a little bit like, sad about it? I don't know. Like, I'm not a coach in the NFL, but. Him and Goff have been like, off good terms for a while. Okay.

I feel like it was like two years ago, they were like, butt buddies. And then last year it was like, eh. To be fair, as an Eagles fan, that's where like I thought Peterson and Wentz

were like best friends and then after this past year I was like, well, every NFL head coach and their quarterback are going to look like best friends

when they're winning games. When they're winning. Like when they're winning, they're always going to look like they're having a great time and the relationship's great and stuff but let's move to another awesome thing that just happened man lebron james james in court side karen man have you seen have you seen the Instagram live of this chick? It is so obvious

that she wants like, she's loving this attention and like, she's on Instagram live, she's got tons of people watching her and stuff like, literally what she says LeBron said, she's like I can't believe he would say this. If I had

if LeBron said it to her, I would be like, yo I love that. LeBron, she was like LeBron said she's like I can't believe he would say this in my head if LeBron said it to her I would be like yo I love that LeBron she was like LeBron supposedly told supposedly he looked at me and was like sit down bitch or something like that and I was like yo if LeBron said that to you that would be like he would literally become my favorite player like I'll sit down but do you know the whole story about like what happened and stuff all I saw was that courtside Karen was trending on Twitter and that some blonde lady was pointing at lebron so okay i already know who's right in the story and who's wrong this blonde chick she's she's with her husband her husband i don't know if you've seen him he literally looks like a 58 year old like jews head like he's like this old looking dude like shredded like super shredded

but he's like it's very apparent that this guy thinks he's 23 and he's he's very not he looks like a leather a piece of leather like dudes from miami he's just tanning every day he literally he looks like a wallet i got it literally looks like a he looks like a wallet um but so him and his wife were at the game supposedly he was saying something to lebron and then lebron told him to like sit down and shut up or something and then the girlfriend stepped or the wife stepped in was like i won't let you talk to my husband that way like blah blah blah like and she what's hilarious she calls him like a steroid like like oh i forgot steroid filled like asshole or something like that and the big thing everyone's doing on twitter is posting like

she called the braun a steroid filled asshole and then showing like the picture of her husband yeah who looks like a steroid filled asshole and it's just like come on man like just do better like stop being an idiot also like why does she have to protect him he's like a 50 year old millionaire and she's just like the sugar baby she's like 25 years old or something completely like she's 20 she's 25 yeah she's a regular old kid out there the whole thing's ridiculous honestly but like yeah it's it was one of the most like insane stories but it's just hilarious and i i really wish lebron like i don't know if he there's no way we'll ever get proof of what he said i wish that he actually told her like yo sit down bitch i would be surprised man like

when fans chirp at athletes i feel like they like chirp back just as hard one a lot of the a lot of fans don't, like, a lot of fans don't realize that they're, like, actually talking to a human. Like, they're actually talking to somebody who, like, can hear them and has, like, human emotion. Well, so what I'll say about, like, again, as I previously stated, basketball I don't know much about. But from the videos that I've seen of, like, sitting courtside which usually it's famous people and you have like kevin hart sitting courtside like i've seen him like joking around the players and they talk shit hard back at him and it's like what do you do when it's covid and you have a select number of people around you that you can clearly hear talking shit to you you don't know them them. Like you're going to do what you normally do. Like you're going to talk shit.

Like who this little blonde, this little blonde chick ain't fucking Kevin Hart. Yeah, exactly. Like he's going to send it back and it's all going to be funny. She's going to be like, get rattled. I don't know.

Like get tossed out of the game. Maybe. Uh, you know, they got, they got thrown out of the game, which is so happy. Every good team has somebody who's famous,

or maybe they're not even that famous, but some rich person who is always on the sideline. Like the Sixers have a guy who's always on the sideline, and he's like some rich guy who- Don't say good team. Don't say good team, Cody. No, no. Because who do the Knicks have?

Okay, but that's different, because that's New York. Like New York and LA are different, because you're always going to have celebrities bandwagoning the big teams like the knicks and the lakers hey don't make fun of new york go albany baby let's go east greenbush shout out but like toronto has a guy who like cheers him one and he goes to every away game like this is the hawks a guy this is drake yeah you're talking about oh no i wasn't talking i wasn't talking about drake there's another guy. I forget his name. But there's another guy who literally goes to everything.

I'm going to call Drake a guy from now on, just so you know. He's a grossy guy, everyone knows. Oh, yeah. No, but... He's always rolling around in a wheelchair. No, but, like, every good team has, like, a rich person who's not, like, a celebrity that follows a team. Like, this guy for the Sixers travels on the plane with them, or least like pre-covid but like this is the hawks we're talking about obviously their sideline people are just going to be trash in comparison it's just just

how it is it's the equal it's the level of play in the nba it leaks to the counterpoint though dang cory that is all that three or is that four yeah we stopped counting the last great huge sports news that happened this week though ea sports bring it back ncaa baby it's in the game baby finally happening it's it's been so we've played ncaa like 2012 for like 11 years now it's no the last one the last one was 2014 with denard robinson on the cover oh garbage but we never had the newest one we had the one we played 13 we played 13 with that had rg3 on the cover that was the one we played we played that one for so long. Actually, shout out Dylan Rothstein.

I still have your NCAA 14. You're not going to get it back. I'm sorry. I'm also not sorry. Shout out Dylan Rothstein. When we did our dynasty in NCAA football, I was quarterback. We had a few games where we were struggling. Dylan was like, oh, can I play quarterback?

He stepped in. Garbage. I took the reins again. You know what happened next? National championship. That's what happened. It's here on the air. I just...

Cody, go ahead. Oh, no. I was just listening to what Brian said, and I just wasn't about it. I just want to say, so I feel like not, I don't know, maybe it's just me and the people I hang out with, but not many people do game, like play EA game, EA Sports is in the game.

They play games together and do a season. Like whenever like we're like in college backstory listeners we got brian we got rooks we got dylan you don't know who he is but you know what great guy uh we all played on the same teams and we played games and we did franchises and like i would have buddies who would be like oh you're playing on the same team i'm like yeah like we're trying to like we're like as if it's like means that much like i'm trying to win a stanley cup i'm trying to win a national championship so many stanley cups like it's just like it cracks me up and you know what my like moral of that

story is it was fun and like people have to do that more and like online like covid just go out join a game with your buddies and just like have fun. Like it was, it was awesome. I like, I still think that's like the most fun, like virtually you can have with your buddies. If you don't think we're all buying this game as soon as it comes out. And COVID definitely is going to be gone by then, knock on wood. 100%.

We all hope. But still, it's just, we have to all play a team together just all for a good one as Dylan said today in our group chat if it's $150 that they're gonna charge in the next year for that game everyone's gonna pay that I'd absolutely still buy it it's such a long time coming for this to

come out that like everyone will buy and usually it's like people kind of skip a year or two on Madden or NHL or something like that everyone will buy this usually it's like people kind of skip a year or two on madden or nhl or something like that everyone will buy this game i swear it's gonna break records i'm gonna i'll put money we've spent so many years in the making for this like there's been like oh we think we're gonna finally start moving towards that being a possibility giving us blue balls not giving us any more details and then all of a sudden just boom explosion it's happening but yeah no explosion after you said blue balls that's why i said because we need to put this in perspective

but like i love i love that game i love ncaa football so much there was um i came back from college i was coming back from college one summer my mom like my xbox got the red rings i was mooching off of burns xbox when we were in college my xbox got the red rings i was mooching off of burns xbox when we were in college my xbox got the red rings and my mom was like oh i got you i got you like an xbox 360 it wasn't xbox one she was like oh i got you the xbox 360 for like super cheap like i was like okay cool go to play it she bought one without a hard drive it was literally like 50 i don't have anything i don't have anything to save games on so i was like at home i was like well i can't like save anything i can't play online so i did ncaa football

i left my xbox on overnight to make sure my stuff would save i played like nine seasons of a boise state ncaa football dynasty and you did like nine seasons you left it on that entire time? I did, like, nine seasons. I left it on for, like, a month and a half. Like, didn't turn it off. That's how much I love NCAA football. It's the best. Honestly, like, you don't even have to say that much about NCAA football.

We've waited six years. And the hint last year where it was like, uh, what was it? The biggest story was, was like they legalized playing like likeness of a player which everybody was like oh hinting at what just happened recently exactly go ahead I'm really hoping they bring back the NCAA basketball games too I just like remember like coming home from school and every day after school i was either playing ncaa football or march madness basketball and like i did at that point in time i did not

have like internet like i couldn't play online multiplayer so like me and my brother would just like come home from school we'd play like all the trophy games try to fill the entire trophy cabinet in like ncaa 08 or whatever it was we did that on basketball and football that was like it's like such good memories and like now that it's like such there's such capability to play online with people and like do the multiplayer it's gonna be great i can't wait super super super excited and the thing is like ea has a bad record for a lot of their games but ncaa was always the one that they actually did well so like if it can actually keep that quality so i don't i don't this is this is

like the epitome of ncaa i don't understand like ncaa football 14 was a significantly better game than madden 14 yeah it's like you're it is the same company making a football game. How does this one play significantly better than the other one? It blows. I think college football will always be a much bigger thing than NFL football because you can glue yourself to that team. We can glue ourselves to Penn State. I can glue myself to my terrible high school football team. Like it's cool to be able to merge yourself with a team. Do I have any reason to like suspect that I'm involved with the Eagles except I went to one game and I watched them my whole life? Like it's just it I don't know like that's why they can sell it and it shocks me that it took six years for their

freaking business model to be able like, yo, we're making a shit ton of money on this. We should probably like get this put together where we can play likeness and get likeness of players and sell it. Going back to what Rook said, I just really hope they don't screw this up because going back to like 14, the last NCAA game, like he said, it was completely different for Madden, but it's been what seven years now since they've made an ncaa game i hope they just don't move everything they did with madden and

reskin it to ncaa because they used to be completely different games like you played the game different because like the speed the movement of the players i'm really hoping they just don't like skin it over and now it's college i hope they get some developers who worked on it previously i don't know how many people are still at ea from like well that's the big the big um a lot of like a lot of like um stuff in madden they talk about where they're like oh we can't really fix that or this like it's because they like they have like this certain like legacy code in the game from the old games and stuff and they're like oh we can't like go back and fix that type thing so like i think there will like there will be definitely some aspects of the older games in it but it's just i the current madden is kind of it's it's all right it's just not

it's it's kind of meh yeah it's not exciting but like thing is ncaa football like even if ncaa football just like took this madden game and just gave us like a roster like an ncaa roster i i would play the shit out of it yeah that's what i was gonna say like i feel like you add and maybe it's more now but you had 128 teams so what you're trying to do that's gonna affect it and then add in everybody's again own tie to those specific teams and even like okay you like an under underdog story like do a double a team or whatever it is like pick some random bs team and just like make your own create a player and try to like go from high school like the idea of it makes more sense to me i'm really hoping that they add some new mode that's never been done before i don't know exactly

like what it could be but you can't really do the ultimate team that every pro sports game has with college they had it they had it ncaa ncaa you sav and all you just have it there's a high school create a player you would you would play you'd create your player no i'm talking about like where you're different thing i'm talking about where you like you open the packs and you get players and that's your team to play online against other people and ncaa ncaa 14 i don't know if it was the first year they did it but they had it i know for a fact ncaa 14 i don't know how it works because it has to be reworked because i i know there's like too many players for you to have like well they have they i mean they had they had legit like like players like um in the last year

or two this guy i watch on youtube he he was like oh doing a pack opening on ncaa 14 ultimate team just to see what i get and like he was pulling like tim tebow and like larry fitzgerald and like all these like older players and a lot a lot of legends. Yeah. And you could do that easily because they're licensing their. Yeah. Now it's super possible. Now it's super possible. So it's going to

be dope. Great news. Huge, huge pick me up on this day. Fantastic news. Great way to end the week. I got nothing more to say.'m done i am good man see ya