I've Had It - America’s Next Top Propagandist

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

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So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready, one, two, three. Patriots, gay, triots, they triots, black triots, brown triots, any triots, any member of the Antifa, D-E-I, anti-Trump community, we love you. And anybody who is a part of the fascist, MAGA-aligned community can do what? FUKUKUKUKUKBS, did you hear while you were gone? Josh subbed for you. Okay, he would go, fuck off.

Fuck off. Did you see it? I haven't heard it. We need to get together and he can do that, like, we can do a threesome and it'd be like, fuck off, fuck off. I like it. We might even get a record out and we might even have as many listeners on Spotify as Cash Patchelle's girlfriend.

I like it. Okay. So I want to know what your grievance is and I'm hoping it's travel related since this is your first. I've had it since you came back from vacation. I have so many travel. have it. I've had it. I was hoping. Okay, number one, I got banned from WhatsApp. So I've had it with WhatsApp, the app. Banned. Band from WhatsApp. How? Okay. So I haven't used it since November.

I used it to communicate with people in foreign countries because that's how you do it over there. So I had gotten a couple texts between November and whenever I left August. And it was like, you need, if you don't use your thing, if you don't use your WhatsApp, it's going to be deactivate. And I'm like, I don't give a fuck if it's deactivated. I never use it. So I arrive. I immediately reset on WhatsApp. And it says, well, we need to review your, you know, your request. So then I get a text from them the next day that says your phone number, and it says my phone number, is banned from using WhatsApp. Please contact customer service for assistance. And I'm like, how does one get banned from WhatsApp?

So now I am officially banned from WhatsApp. And I'm just like, number one, go fuck yourself WhatsApp. Like, why am I banned? Just because I didn't use it for eight months, not deactivated, just banned. So, I mean, I've never been banned. So I feel like I'm some kind of like interloper in the criminal mind that I'm banned from something, which is kind of cool in a lot of ways. I, with you, I know that a lot of times, because we've been friends for a very, very, very long time,

there's got to be more to the story. There's, we're missing a component. The listener and I are missing some good details. I don't think you're privy to these details either. I just want to say that from the outset. But I do think we need to launch an investigation because this is the kind of stuff. If you're not going to date, getting banned from apps is really good content. I applaud you for that.

I'm going to get. And I even thought, like, remember my old email that I used for everything, like purchases and stuff got hacked? And I thought, is my phone number now in charge? Like, did I get hacked on my email? They've been using my phone number for some kind of weird, fucked up shit. And so you think I should call WhatsApp and ask and just say, why did I get banned? Yes, 100%. We need to know. I need for you to record it, too. That's a big ask, but I'll try. I'll try. You can figure it out. Or just have your daughter record it with her phone next to yours on speaker phone.

But I think that there's some interesting tidbits. I mean, hopefully it's not anti-climactic. Hopefully, I like this whole theory that your phone, your email was hacked. And that maybe they hacked into your WhatsApp too. Yeah, maybe. I mean, who knows? I might be a transnational, you know, drug lord and don't even know it. Exactly.

Exactly. That's exactly what I'm hoping for. Yeah. Very, very, very. When I was going through Homeland Security on the way back in, I thought, oh, God, here we go. If my WhatsApp reported me that I'm, you know, I mean, you just have that crazy theory. And then, of course, it was fine. But I just was like, what's going on with WhatsApp?

And then I'll tell you another thing I've had it with on traveling. And you pointed this out. Okay. Not long ago. Do not, if you're going to be in an airport, changing planes, riding in airplanes, which are very confined. faces. The natural deodorant has got to go. It is just, we had a guy behind us on a flight. Thank goodness it was just from Dallas to Oklahoma City, which is short. He reeked so bad that my daughter and I, our eyes were watering. And I'm just like, how do you not know? And it has to be the natural

deodorant thing, which if you want to wear natural deodorant by, you know, when you're home, alone or just around your family, suit yourself. I don't care. But when you're in a public space and you stink so badly that people, the sitting a whole roll in front of you have tears in their eyes, that's fucking bad. I mean, that's bad. And you think, how do you not know it? But, you know, sometimes you don't know when you smell, I guess. Yeah, I have experienced this quite a bit. I remember there was one particular incident that I brought up last summer.

Right. I brought this up. I was in Newark. and we're standing in line TSA and there was a guy and it was so pungent. It was so overwhelming. And I just thought this is not acceptable. This is where we need to have armpit sniffers. Which I would be great at airplane.

Yes. You know, the minute somebody says, do I have B.O. I'm the first one that's like, I mean, just get right in their armpits. So I will volunteer. I'll do it. And just be like, you can't board this flight. we've got to have armpit snifers because it's in that contained space. Mine is travel related as well.

So I'm in Los Angeles right now and I had to fly here from New York. And there was a couple that were in front of me in the boarding line. And then they sat right in front of me on the airplane. And then they were right next to me at the baggage claim. and this couple, they made their presence known. First of all, he had bright blue hair and she had bright purple hair, which I support. Right. So that in and of itself is like, oh, it's the people with the cool hair.

They're probably around 60. So the bright hair with that age was another thing that makes them more noticeable. And all of that is fine and all of that is I support. I support every single bit of that. What I don't support regarding this couple is how loud they were. When we were standing in line aboard the plane, they spoke to where somebody 20 people back behind in the line here. It was performative communication. There's no reason that they were talking at the volume they were speaking unless they wanted all eyes on them.

And then we got on the plane. And they are sitting, one is sitting by the window on this side. and one sitting by the window on that side. And they are screaming back and forth to each other. A lot of the flights. I have to put on my earphones and then crank it all the way up. And then when we get off, I put my earphones up. And then he starts looking at her.

And he goes, do you have your passport? She says yes. And he goes, do you have your passport? Yes. Do you have your passport? Yes. And she's like, I'm going to kill you. And he's saying it this like, do you have your passport?

And he's trying to irritate her. And it just goes on and on and on. And then we get down to baggage claim and they're right next to me. And the performative communication continues. You know how a toddler's really loud because they want everybody to look at them? Right. This is what these people were doing. And I could tell in the baggage carousel, they were very affectionate towards one another.

I could tell that like him doing, do you have the passport? Do you have the passport and her saying, I'm going to kill you, that they loved they love each other and that she loved him kind of needling her. So then I went through this thing like, are they the asshole or am I the asshole? You know, like, am I just so mad about Trump and all of this shit? Why do I care if they're loud? But I kind of do. It was really annoying.

Like I think they could have brought it down a little bit. But then also like, I could tell they really dick each other. I mean, all of the performative communication they were doing, I could genuinely see the chemistry between them and like that they I don't know if they were like video game designers or something because they were talking about some project they had going on and like yeah we'll give and it sounded like a character we'll give her an extra and so then and then I'm like my thoughts I'm the one that's paying all this attention to them right it's about me had no choice because they were so loud you couldn't help but pay any attention to them but I'm just wondering like I guess people can

be both annoying and kind of cute and sweet at the same time But anyway, long story short, I've had it with people that talk really loudly in public spaces. Crank it, dial it back a little bit. Not everybody needs to hear your conversation. To be fair, Jennifer, I have the thought all the time. Would this bother me if Kamala Harris were president and things were just normal and everyone running in the country? Or am I just ready to be mad at everybody? Which I will tell you, that was one super nice thing about being away.

I turned off all my notifications, and it was just like the weight of the world lifted off me. And then when I started getting back into it and reading and all that, I found the same thing. But in your defense, you have been on my ass about being loud in spaces because I am loud by nature for 20 years. So I think a part of it is people loud in public spaces are obnoxious. I'm obnoxious when I do it. I always welcome the correction because I didn't realize I'm doing it. But yeah, so I don't know. I just think there are certain rules in society everybody needs to conform to.

I think when you go to an airport, that is the number one place that you need to conform to the general societal norms. And it seems to be the one place that people cannot do that consistently like time after time after time. They just can't conform. And I get like if you want to be a rebel, I'm all. it. But at the boarding gate, that's not the time. Yeah. So I think in conclusion to the introduction of this podcast episode, wear a deodorant and shut the fuck up to the airport. All right. Welcome to I've had it. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. Kylie. Hi. Hi. I have bad news. I actually found out I accidentally bought natural deodorant. I've been using it for like a month.

and I didn't realize it. And I just kept being like, I kind of smell at the end of the day. You can smell yourself. I just, I kind of smell. And then I looked and it looked just like my old deodorant, but it said aluminum free. So I've been an offender for a month without knowing. Really did Anna say anything? That's what I was just going to ask.

No, she didn't say anything. I think she likes me too much to like think I smell that bad, you know? Yeah, I don't think that's a possibility. I don't think you like somebody so much. Like, even though you love your kids more than anything, anything, you know if they have a shitty diaper. Like, you can smell it. Well, I fixed the problem.

Did you get real deodorant? I got real deodorant. I've got two reviews for you guys today. Five stars, new kink unlocked. And Michael writes, I'm a new listener and trigger warning, also a man. I've seen you in my algorithm, but never actually listened to the pod. After binging a few episodes, I fear you may have unlocked a new kink in me. Who knew that, quote, intelligent women eviscerating maga men would do a

it for me. Not in a sexual way. I'm no baby Moses Mike Granger-Johnson, but boy, does it scratch an itch. I love this. I love, I love, there are good straight men out there. There are. And we have to remind each other and we need to elevate those voices as the antidote to these toxic manosphere bullshit men, because there's a lot of them too. Yeah, they seem to be the loudest, speaking of loud. And I will say, Jennifer, of all the people on planet Earth, in my experience, you're the best at coming up with nicknames, like, immediately on the fly. Like, you don't even know it's happening. It's not pre-planned.

And you say something. And it's fucking hilarious. So I'm going to call you the nickname queen of the world. Thank you. Thank you. That's your title. You're the star of the show, but I am the nickname queen. Right.

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Okay, we've got HB. Pop changing the world five stars. And they're right, I started listening to IHIP around 2024 and have been spreading the IHIP agenda ever since. It's gotten to a point where my mom is such a fan that I think she has watched more of the episodes than me. As we know, the important thing is that the fight against fascism is ongoing, and we need all voices to yell about these issues as often and as loud as possible. I so appreciate what you all do. Lastly, some of the candidates you have brought on recently have helped guide my campaign donations, whether it's El Cyan or Oliver Larkin, we can defeat MAGA and get these bought and paid-for Dems out.

Let the fight on her. Yeah, I think that's excellent. You know, it's as we approach these midterms, it's, it's, I like probably a lot of you at home are experiencing what I'm about to say. Like, I desperately want progressive candidates that aren't bought and paid for. And then in those progressive candidates, I'm looking for about an 85% agreement rate on, 80 to 85%, because no candidate I'm going to agree with everything on. But then this red state trauma that I,

I have from living in Oklahoma for 50 years and seeing the harm reduction abilities of a corporate Democrat to not give rapists more rights than women. And I can go on down the list. And so I've kind of, for the midterms, adopted this mindset that I want the most progressive candidate to win. And if that candidate cannot win, then if there's a corporate Democrat in there, I'm just all chips in on them. Right. Because living in a MAGA red state like Oklahoma, and you see that it is ranked 50th for women to live and that the politicians there and a lot of women go out and vote for women that look like Pumson Me, they vote for their daughter's

rapist to have more rights than their daughter. They vote for guns to have more rights. They vote for guns to have more rights than their elementary school-aged children. And it's just for people that live in these red states that are marginalized, they don't have the luxury of deciding between a corporate dem or a progressive dem, although I agree with all of the conversations that corporate dims have incubated this situation. I agree with that. But I just want like our list to be, number one, defeat MAGA. Number two, you know, build a huge coalition. And I see on the Democratic side,

a lot of, you know, tug of war and fighting going on. And I think some of that's good to an extent. I think disagreement in a party is good. But it's gotten to a point where like people are mad at us because we're not corporate Democrats. And that's fine. You know, we put our names out here all the time. but I don't know. There's just, I wish that we could all unite. Fascism and defeating them, that's the number one thing. And then under that, there's a lot of other things. I don't know.

What do you think, Pumps? I completely agree with that. I mean, you can't always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you need in the words of the great Mick Jagger. You know, I just don't, I would love for super progressive, everybody without, if you don't have corporate money, you automatically went. I'm all in on all that.

but I would much rather have a corporate dem than a fascist. And somebody who's just going to continue to allow Trump to ruin our country and take us down to the, you know, it's a race to the bottom right now. And, you know, my, I guess my concern is, I mean, I would always vote for a corporate dem over a Republican. But my concern is, will these corporate dims have enough fight in there? them to take back our government. I mean, will they have enough fight? And I hope that they do, and I think some will. I mean, it's not everybody's the same on this.

But I just, that's the only thing that worries me, but I'm with you. You have to just do it. You know, it stinks. You got to do it anyway. And sadly, I think we know the answer to your question, which is a really valid one. They've proven to us that oftentimes they don't have the fight in them, which is why the Democratic approval rating is so low. But nonetheless, this is our fun podcast. So let's quit talking about that. And if you want to hear political podcast, IHIP news,

it's all on the same YouTube channel, but two different podcast feeds if you listen to unlike Apple, Spotify, et cetera. They're charted out differently there. But let's go ahead and head into hearing from our listeners via voice memos, Kylie, who's first? Okay, at first we've got someone very like-minded with you today. His name is Rory. Hi, Jennifer. Hi, Pumps. Hi, Kylie the Magic lesbian. It's Rory here. Canadian Gaytriot, originally from England, as you can probably tell, by the accent. I know you've done a lot on airports. You may have done, I'm not sure if you've done this one specifically, but what I've had it with is seat allocation on airplanes. So we were coming back from Rome a few months ago,

myself with my soon-to-be husband, and we sat in our allocated seats. We, we booked a seat, a window and aisle with the hope that the middle one was free, but if it's taken, then fine. Plains about to leave, and then, at the last minute, some standby people get on. Now, just sit in your seat, especially if you're standby, sit in your seat. But no, this couple come on and the husband is trying to get the people next to him to move so he can sit next to his wife. That doesn't work, so then he says to me, and I say, well, my husband is like two seats away, but I don't just sit next to him, but I want to stay on the same row. And then, he tries to go in for a second line of argument.

And I just look at him. I look down at my phone and let the awkward silence land. So then he finally gets the message and just sits in his allocated seat and his wife sits next to me. The whole flight, every 50 minutes, he's moving the seat in front of me and looking back at his wife like she's about to disappear. And then I'm not making this up halfway through the flight. He puts his hand and arm through the seats so he can hold her hand during the flight.

Really? they can't spend seven hours not sitting next to each other. I've had it with that. Totally agree. What the fuck is wrong with these people that they have to be? It's so, first of all, why would you, I would be grateful if I got on standby. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, we've got to see, who we're going.

The couples that have to touch all the time, have to sit next to each other, they have to put their hand through. Something's fucked up in that marriage, 1 million percent. There is something going on behind closed doors that they're both super insecure about it. It sounds like him more than her. And that's my question because that's fucking weird a shit. What's going on behind closed doors that we have to touch each other all the time? I don't know.

I do believe that airports bring out the worst in people. They do. I also believe that some couples are just naturally a little more affectionate than others. and we have to allow for that space for loving couples. I think you and I have had such bad relationships. My lived experience. We get really triggered by that. And so I don't mind the affection.

But I do, the wanting to trade seats at the last minute is such a, it's such an inconvenience to everybody on the flight. Yeah. And like you want to go from a, like he's going to give up his window so he can go sit in the middle. Who's that? Nobody. All right,

Kylie, who's next? Okay, up next we've got Jen R. Hey, I have friends. My name is Jen. I'm a blue dot in a red state, and I was just calling because I think it's

hysterical that Pete Heggsats wants to give testosterone to the military because this is just idiocracy at its finance. Like, this is Darwinism, and it makes me laugh, because MAGA is all about, you know, creating families and blah, blah, blah. But guess what?

Adding extra testosterone tanks, the sperm counts. So, yeah, they're just going to take themselves out of the gene pool anyway when they overdo the testosterone. So let them have it. Do it. Get them out of the gene pool. Be great. Could we get that lucky? Yeah, my favorite part about that is the party that opposes gender affirming care does more gender affirming care than progressives do.

Like this whole giving people hormones is supposed to be the very thing that they're against. And then like they've all been browbeating AOC because she's videoing her like freezing her eggs. and this is supposed to be the party of breeding. And their argument against it is, well, she's going to breed later and then she won't know her grandkids. That's so selfish of her. And I'm like, Trump was 95 when he had Barron. Right. So this just doesn't work.

And let's also talk about Caroline, the Levitt, the racist, insane, former press secretary. Her husband is 60. Right. So if you want to make that argument, that. That's fine. Just make it universally. And that's the problem with Maga. They only apply these critiques and these standards to progressives while in their own house, they're throwing rocks. Yeah, I completely agree. Pete Hexseth triggers me more than anyone in this administration. I find him to be absolutely vile in every single way. I mean, soup to nuts. I cannot find one redeeming quality about that man. He is dumber than a box. of hot rocks. And it could, it could very well be a personal thing like he fucks around on his wives. He's an addict. You know, all the things. And that was my lived experience, you know, back to the

couple thing. So it could be a personal deal. But objectively, when you look at him, he is incompetent. He is arrogant. He's a religious fucking nut. He obviously, based on his church attendance, hates women and all the shit he's done with women. You know, he's on his third wife. He's got a gazillion kids that they homeschool. I mean, he's everything I hate in a person. But I have to ask you, the one thing that I did see when I was coming back from vacation was, did you see the Caroline Leavitt get ready with me video with her? And I am just like, this is a fucking clown show. Like, it's so unbelievable to me that somebody who is in the inner circle

of the President of the United States gets on, does it get ready with me with their big hot roller talking about how, you know, she's really so fun and so funny other than when she's lying for fascists, for fascists, covering up crime after crime, covering up for fucking pedophiles in the situation room. Like, it is so, and I just like, can you imagine

if Jen Socky got on, you know, social media with their hair all rolled up and talked about how funny she was. It's just these are not serious people. I know we overuse it, but it's just really, there's just no thought to, you know, I'm in a public position representing the president of the United States. And so my behavior has to be different. I can't do get ready with me and do all this crazy shit, but they do. They like it. I support the Get Ready with me. I just, I differ with you on this. If she wants to do a Get Ready with me, if AOC wants to video her freezing her eggs, these are things that are annoying to Gen Xers like you and me,

but this is the way people and younger generations are communicating. This is something that's on the right and the left. I just simply don't support the diabolical lying, manipulating, gaslighting, and all of the shit she does at her real job. What she does on social media, I genuinely could give two shits about. If she wants to get ready with me, if she wants her up and rollers, I don't give a shit.

That doesn't, I have zero, zero, zero judgment about that. I judge 100% what she does all day, every day at her job while wearing her Christian cross saying that the Epstein case was a hoax, which means that you're devalidating all of these victims of child rape, while at the same time talking about the Lord, I oppose her performative prayer before she goes out and goes on a lying spree. And so I am never one like the pettiness of the politics of the get ready with me or if people on the left like Abdul al-Said dance to a Taylor Swift video.

That's just the way like that's the way the communication is going now. And honestly, I think it's kind of smart of her to do it to try to get people to like her, to try to be more relatable. I think we always just need to laser focus on what she did at her job, which was be a propagandist for a war criminal, which is Donald Trump and then all of the other people. I mean, and he's pretty much a pedophile. I mean, an accused pedophile, credibly accused pedophile,

and credibly accused rapist. That's where my problems with her are. You're just a bigger person than me. I just hate her. I hate her. I can't stand her. But I mean, you can be objective. I can't be objective sometimes.

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Hi, Jennifer. Hi, pumps. This is Olivia from the raw dogging. Florida episode. I would like to shift the focus here a little bit from the horrible American mom culture to the horrible old white men joke culture. So my fiance and I went to the hospital because he was scheduled for a surgery for his torn Achilles. He limps into the elevator, obviously, and an old white man follows us. We're in an elevator for a second, and he looks at him and says,

well, if you didn't kick your wife, your leg would have been fine. What kind of stupid, unfunny fucking joke that is? We were both honestly stunned. I didn't know what to say, and it was a short elevator ride. but let's as a society start calling these people out because these jokes are not funny. If it was at least funny, I would laugh. But this is just fucking stupid. I've had it.

It's so true. So true. And I have some bad news. Josh. And I think there's just a certain age that people cross over where they start doing this. Josh is kind of doing these little. kind of white man dad jokes from time to time with complete strangers. Like, and then we leave and he goes, was I doing the corny like dad joke thing?

And the kids and I are like, yeah, we are. Like here's an example. We go into a clothing store and everybody knows Josh and I love to go shopping together. And so we go into a clothing store and he'll say, yeah, let me try on that shirt. Let me try it on a medium. If I can get that over these big muscles here. and then he looks back at me and he like winks and I'm just sitting there going get a bat and hit me make it end make it in knock me over just knock me out and then and then he knows he can see like

oh mama's getting irritated so then he just goes he goes in and he goes in which here's the thing I probably like it because I end up just dying laughing I've ever told you the story so we were in Paris and the boys were much younger like I would say like late elementary school age. Your son was with me. Luke was on this trip with me. We're in Paris and we're walking the streets and Josh has his camera and I'm trying to get the kids back to the hotel because we have like there's something we have to do.

And you know me. I run a tight ship. I'm in sheriff mode. The sight seeing photograph portion of the day had ended. We need to get back shower and we have something else to do. And I'm laser focused on that because I have my two sons and your son and Josh. so I'm the leader. So I cannot find Josh.

And the kids are like, where's dad? And Luke's like, where's Josh? And so I go back down this block and I see him and he's just, you know, like taking pictures of everything. And he has this big camera, like his big Nikon with the big lens. And finally I go, I go, Josh, we've been waiting on you. You need to hurry. Like, I've got to get these kids back. I'm being very dramatic.

And this is what's so good about our relationship, because I'm like at a nine or ten, like that this is a crisis that Josh is not coming back because in my mind, we have to be laser focused on getting back to the hotel right that second, right? It's completely ridiculous. I'm being a total fucking whack job, right? And so he takes his camera and he starts walking towards me almost like Jod Claude Van Dam. Remember how he would walk like a robot? And then Josh suddenly takes his camera up and he crosses the street and he just,

it takes pictures of me the entire time. And I'm like, you, and if you look at the pictures, I'm like, you, and then all of a sudden I just bend over dying laughing because he's just like, like take this, you know, like look at you with your schedule. I'm going to photograph that now. Like, what's the deal? We're on vacation. You know, pipe down, lady.

And so I agree with Olivia. The dad jokes are really stupid and so annoying. like a prime one is like if you wear distressed jeans then yes somebody who comes next you you got some worn out jeans there you think maybe you need to get some new britches you know that's always one that they really don't understand you got you think you had those jeans for 500 years or something why they got so all those holes in them but these men are I think in their own way, trying to make the little moments a little bit better, although it's so annoying. Yeah, it's so annoying, but here's the thing.

I got accused by my kids from kind of doing the same thing. Are you doing dad jokes? Not dad jokes, but just kind of like my... Tell us. Okay, so I was like, so the person at the hotel, we go to the second hotel, this is after I've been banned from WhatsApp, and she's like showing me the QR code like here's how you get in touch with the hotel get on WhatsApp and so I'm like instead of just saying okay you know my daughter got it on her phone and we'll do it through her phone or whatever I go into the whole thing well I got banned from WhatsApp I don't know

what you know just over oversharing it seems like you're oversharing he like whispers it so then I try to overcompensate with something like you know I'm glad my kids aren't little kids anymore I'm glad they're adults, you know, ha, ha, ha, ha. Sometimes you just have to shut up. Just stop digging. Just shut up. And I'm like, so I kind of see myself a little bit falling into that category. Yeah, I'm probably, I'm probably heading there too.

And I will say, I've been your kids in that situation with you many, many, many times. Right. Where we have made an agreement that we are going to. minimize wording to get through, especially when we were on tour. Right. Like we are going to minimize wording to get through this day. We are going to minimize, we're going to take all the conversations with people, whether it's the hotel front desk, the airline flight attendant, the waiter.

We're going to be as friendly as all get out, smile and gracious it, but we're going to ratchet back unnecessary words because we have to talk so much on this tour. And you and I mutually agree on it. Most of the time you brought this up. It's your idea. It's always my idea. It's your idea. Let's not talk that much anymore.

I'm tired of talking. I'm like, I totally agree. Let's not talk anymore. And then much to my surprise, we're live storying it with a lot of people. And so I've been exactly your three kids in that hotel lobby so many times. And I'll be like, I thought we decided we weren't going to talk very much today. I know. I know.

You just can't help it. Here's what happens. It's like I can't happen. And I know what's happening. And I can't stop. It's like there's no, like the trigger. It's such a bad. And then the more you think I need to stop, the more you go.

I've seen it. I see the hamster running like, I need to stop. Oh, shit, just keep going. Keep going because then you'll get over faster. And then you start talking a little bit faster. And it's a total fucking mess. Let me tell you something. I've talked about this before, but I want to talk about it a little bit more.

I've had it when you check into a hotel. And they ask, what are you doing? Like, what's the purpose of your trip? Because I don't, I don't want to get into it. A lot of times if it's like podcast related travel, I don't want to go, because I've done it before. So what do you know, oh, I'm here for work? What can I work do you do?

Yeah. I'm a podcaster. What's your podcast about? I'm just like, oh, fuck my life. Politics. Oh. Well, what's the name of it? Yeah.

And then it's just, it, it go, there's so much. And now the new one is, if I see that front desk person again later, and listen, no disrespect. These front desk people are being friendly. They're doing the jobs. I'm the problem here. I am the asshole. I want to say that, but I still have this grievance. Then I see them, what are your dinner plans for tonight? This happened to me more recently in London. What are your dinner plans for tonight? And I just, I was like, oh, I can't remember the name, but we're going somewhere. Well, what is it? Is it a good restaurant? I remember having a dick in my phone to dig out the reservation. I think I just am an asshole. I don't want to have unnecessary conversations. I don't chit chat. I just, I am, I really despise it. Josh fucking loves it. And you love it.

And I have to sit. Yeah, you love it. You love it. You're getting the fray all the time on that. And here's the deal. I think I'm the asshole. Why do I care? Why don't I just engage in this idle chit chat?

Why don't I just watch you? Do it. Why do I get irritated by it? Why not just go? So here's the thing. Let me tell you one more thing. I think I'm turning a corner on this. Okay. I went to my gym a couple weeks ago. And there's this lady that's in there all the time. And she's probably 65. And she exercises and like she does like dances in the middle of the gym and the middle of the weight room. And she does like and she spins around. And then she does. she does all of these moves. And the first time I saw her, it was like, to my trainer, I was like, what do we have going on right here? She's like, oh, she does it. She's here every day. So I watched it.

I thought, well, what's her fucking deal? I had this real negative take on. And we worked out for the same hour. She didn't have a trainer. I did. And I watched her the whole time. And I watched her doing little different eight counts and doing all these moves and shaking her butt, shimming, doing all of this stuff.

You know, like grapevines, jazz hands, five, six, six, eights the whole nine, right? By the end of it, I had thought, good for her. Yeah. What do I care? This is wildly entertaining. She has zero fucks to give. This is the way she likes to work out. It does look a bit ridiculous, but also like she looks completely liberated. Like she's totally enjoying herself. And maybe it's not a conventional way to work out, but it's her way to work out. Right. And I love it. And so now when I see her, I just kind of like smile and I'm like, you were such twat to judge her initially. And some people really are worthy of judgment at a gym. I don't want to act all sanctimonious. But I do think I need to just embrace more the lighter conversations in life

and not get so irritated by them. But I really get irritated by them. I really do. I'm trying to be better. Well, that's all you can do is try. I do think it's interesting that she's going to the gym and she's just doing the dance. First of all, I'm impressed that she's still able to do all the dance moves because I am so uncoordinated. I find it hard when I go to these classes to do it. So I'm impressed by that. But I'm the same way. I'll immediately judge something. And then I'm like, I actually do it. Why don't care? Exactly. Right. Like my first thing is judgment and hatefulness in my head. And then by the end, and I sit and analyze it. And I'm like, I'm kind of into it. Yeah. And then also like, why like, why do I care? Exactly. Like, why do, yeah, this looks fucking

bananas. This is crazy. But you know what? I'm into it. I like it. get on her. Be who she is. Knock yourself out. Yeah. I don't know. If Kamala Harris was president, it probably wouldn't bug you.

I don't know. We'll never know. I agree. We will probably. At some point, we're going to know. At some point, we're going to know. And I do think living in this earth and sharing spaces with people can be a mind field. And there are legitimate grievances that,

Maybe they are petty. Maybe you are overreacting. But in this space to a friend, you share it, you get it off your chest. And there's a normalcy to that type of shit talking about sharing spaces with other people, like public restrooms, like airplanes, you know, like elevators and escalators, the people who hog the entire step and you can't go around them. And they just, you know, they've got their, you know, come on, wake up people. And but I do think that if we had a culture that was a little bit kinder, from the top.

Yeah. Kindness trickling down. Maybe we wouldn't be such cuts all the time. I don't know. Probably still would be bad. It's worth a shot. All right. I think that's all we have.

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