I've Had It - Be Mean to Fascists

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

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they triots, black triots, brown triots, and the people that marginalize and pick on those people can do wet pumps. Fuck all! When I was in Chicago, I was walking downtown and somebody just walked by and said, fuck all! Oh my God, that's such a great exchange. Like that's such a great, I listen to your podcast, I know what you do, that's perfect. Yeah, I loved it, which by the way, I spent a night in Chicago, we walked like five miles

in downtown Chicago. In fact, it's not a war zone. zone. It's actually quite lovely. Despite popular reports by the administration, it was wonderful and peaceful and enjoyable. I love a big city. And this attack on blue cities is so insane, especially considering all of the suburban and rural areas that need the tax dollars from these cities to function. And so it's just so idiotic, like so many, things that they do. And these fascists are just more than I can take. All right, Pumps, what have you had it with? Well, along those lines, I have had it with the president of the

United States and everyone surrounding him, acting like petulant children. For example, Caroline, Carol Lyon, KKK Levitt, in responding to a question, says, your mom, like your mom did. These people are the biggest bottom feeders. They are, they wouldn't even make JV's JV team of political operatives. And so what I've had it with is the dumbest people in the United States of America being in power. and we are celebrating stupid people right now. So here's, there's actually something to this pump. So the authoritarian, which unfortunately, as we all know is kinks, has to be the smartest guy in the room.

We've all heard him talk, right? Right. We've all heard him drone on and on and on about IQ tests and dementia tests and animal identification test. Look, I nailed picking a giraffe out on a piece of paper. we know that he's not very bright. So nobody can outshine him in that. So what remains are, I think we're getting into double-digit IQ people here. For example, your example of Caroline, KKK, I wear my crucifix cross, love it. She doesn't have the intelligence or the emotional intelligence or the critical thinking skills to deduce. I'm part of a movement that likes

to say, what would Jesus do? While at the same time, I lie nonstop 24-7, 365 to protect a group of pedophiles and pedophile protectors, which I don't think Jesus would want me to do. And I'm answering text messages with your mom, which I don't know, I'm not a Christian palms, but you used to be one. I would assume, I would reckon that's not very Christ-like. And so you have just a lot of dipshits and listener on our other podcast. We decided dip shit didn't go far enough.

So we're going to replace the word dip shit with the word fuck twatts. Because dip shit just didn't, it just wasn't enough. And Caroline Levitt is wet pumps. She's a fuck twat twat. And then Pete Hagseth is a fuck twat. Yeah. And dumb and dumber or fuck twots. So I agree with you.

I mean, it's just, it's so horrible to see stupid people and just, charge of very important positions. It really, it's really like, especially when I think about like what other countries think of our leadership. I'm sure it's what, you know, what we think about Benjamin Netanyahu or Victor Orban, just complete and total corrupt criminals. And that's where we are. And at one point, is the United States have a history of a lot of really bad mistakes, yes. But at least we valued expertise, decency, you know, and now I feel like it's just, I'm going to be the biggest dick on the planet because I am so insecure. And we're going to pretend like the United States government is a WWE ring. And it's just, it's beneath all

of us, I feel like. It's just beneath us. So you said what other countries think. And for pre- Donald Trump, other countries thought of Americans as being arrogant, loud, and trashy. And our leadership didn't always match up with the population. There was a sense of decency in decorum. And now the leadership matches the caricature in which our population has been defined. Yeah. Arrogent, loud, prude, hypocritical, not critical thinkers, ethnocentric. And Donald Trump has is the manifestation of all of the worst parts of our culture brought to light.

He represents the worst facets of American culture. And every culture has components to it that are defects. And Donald Trump has rounded up all. of the defects that as a culture we have created and he represents all of them on steroids. And now we unfortunately have a leader that reflects the worst impulses of Americans. And the fact that Americans go around thinking like that he says, we're respected in the world now, our country's on fire, we were a dead country. the evidence points to the contrary. And again, he's got all of these. He's low IQ and he's surrounded

by even lower IQ people because nobody can outshine the fuck twat in charge. The HFTIC, the head fuck twat in charge. Nobody can outshine him. So you've got a bunch of fuck twats. Nobody's telling him, hey, you're actually wrong about that. Our popularity globally is plummeting and people think you are a fascist and a dictator. But nobody will tell him that because it's all circle jerk, a fuck twattery on steroids. Without asking too much of the people surrounding him, they haven't told him he in fact did not settle nine wars, eight wars. They have not in fact told him the difference between an insane asylum and people seeking asylum. So the popularity of him in the United States and abroad seems like way too big of a stretch if we can't do these little bitty things.

All right. So let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with being in a position as a podcaster, as a progressive podcaster, and as a Democrat, where a lot of the Democratic establishment leadership is so impotent that we have to spend time criticizing them when we should all be united against. fascism, and we should all be united in upholding universal human rights. And instead, when we have a senator on the show that's an establishment Democrat or a congressperson that's an establishment Democrat, we have to talk to them about their corporate donors. And we have

to get word salad answers. And this is not the time for that. It just, I've had it. I ran into a guy on the street the other day in New York. He had a Frenchie. I had my two. Frenchies. And he was like, hey, I love listening to you. Keep going after those establishment Democrats. Like the bookers, the Jeffries, the Schumers, they're the ones who are selling us down the river right now. And I said, yeah, I know. And my heart kind of sank because those are the people that should be morally shining their fight and their plight against this regime should be outstanding. It should, every time they're at the podium and they're not up there enough,

it should be an all-out assault and to the MAG of people listening, I'm not talking about a physical assault, you fuck twice. I'm talking about a verbal assault. So Fox News, you don't have to go on a 24-hour bender saying Jennifer Welch wants to kill conservatives because I don't. I want your fat asses to have health care. But I digress. So they should be verbally assaulting these people because, as we mentioned earlier with your

grievance, they're not smart. It's a very simple thing to point out that Caroline Levitt is a complete propagandist hypocrite with the maturity of a nine-year-old. It is obvious to point out that Donald Trump is flailing, is in men's. to late stage dementia, can't walk in a straight line, rolls out the red carpet to murderous regimes, kisses a war criminal's ass when he should have him arrested. These should be very simple things to point out. But when you're the leader of a party and you take money from the same organization, and I'm talking about APAC, and APAC spent the same amount of money,

electing Donald Trump that Elon Musk did. If it would be a conflict of interest, Booker, Hakeem, and Chuckles to take money from Elon Musk, which I think it would be toxic and electoral death sentence, it equally should be with APAC. And if you notice the Democrats that are having a problem leading right now, the common thread that I've seen in all of these people pumps is A-PAC donations, and then they're unable to have moral clarity about the Israeli government. And it's a very simple statement to make that we stand against anti-Semitism, we stand against Islamophobia, homophobia, we stand against all forms of

bigotry because we believe in universal human rights. Benjamin Nanyahu and his military don't believe in universal human rights. And in fact, the BBC has reported that a lot of children, Palestinian children, when they did autopsies in them, I think at the numbers, 170 or 180, had bullet wounds in their chest or in their head. And we're funding that. And so that should be a real layup morally to speak about, also the fact that Benjamin Netanyahu would not take Joe Biden's same ceasefire deal. Right. But he took it for the fuck twat kinks. No problem. And so when you're taking money from the people that want to get fascist elected and want to tear down democracy, you're not a credible messenger. This isn't a

purity test. This is, are you a credible messenger? Can you walk the walk and talk the talk? You might, we don't have to agree on 100% everything, but I would just think executing little kids. Right. would be a deal breaker that calm and crazy well putting pedophiles in jail should be something we all agree on you know trafficking children everybody should agree on that but we don't and I think you make such a good point and you put it in such a great you know very eloquently stated because it would be so nice that we never had to question the leadership that we had in the Democratic Party right now because it's a very overwhelming and scary time and that we cannot that we could all every single person in the party unite with a single message and behind leaders but it's like

they're holding on to what lost us the House, the Senate and the presidency last time and I just I don't see it getting better what they're hanging on to is corporate donations and specifically the more and more you look into it, and all roads kind of lead to this APEC situation. And the Democrats are all united on releasing the Epstein files. We're united on so many things. I mean, Hakeem Jeffries just last week was calling Moses Mike Grindr Johnson and Canks that they were running a pedophile protection project. I loved it. All props to Hakeem on that. He has a hard time, had a really hard time endorsing Mom Donnie. He has a hard time answering questions about what the future the Democratic Party is

because he's beholden to the same corporations that fund and want Donald Trump and or Donald Trump affiliate style candidates to reign because they will help unregulated capitalism dick over the working class and they provide a common enemy for everyone to rally around which during the election the common enemy were trans people and immigrants and now we've moved on to the common enemy being from within right being the people that go to the no kings march and so it's just it's insane and I expect every single thing that I get from a MAGA politician. I expect the low IQ, sophomoric, juvenile responses from Caroline Levitt. I expect Pete Heggseth to be a drunk ass texting chats in war plans and signal. I expect

the Senate and the House to not do a goddamn thing about it, the Republicans in the Senate in the House because they are fucking pussies. I expect all of that, but I refuse to lower my standards for the Democratic establishment. And I think that that's where the pressure needs to be applied the most. They are disconnected from where the electorate is. And if they are looking at focus groups and statisticians, and I just read a report the other day that a report came out from a focus group hired by the DNC or some Democratic strategy that they needed that the Democrats needed to talk less about LGBTQ plus issues. And I just think if y'all are going to listen to this shit and you're going to play pick me politician, nobody's going to like you. Nobody. Nobody will like you.

If you start throwing groups of people under the bus, you're fucked. And if you lead with an economic populist message and the right response with, well, I don't want these. you know, bathrooms and these sports issues. And then you say, whatever you want to believe about that is your business. But in our political party, we don't bully people and our financial equality message and making sure that billionaires pay what needs to be paid, making sure that we put regulations on capitalism. So there aren't cancer clusters and deaths popping up all over the place and Boeing's falling out of the sky. Applies to everybody. Even the people, you hate because at some point white maga triple trumper somebody you hate might be a family member right

somebody might give birth to a gay kid or a trans kid or your grand kid might marry a black person and so we're going to just stay here and fight for all of these universal human rights through our message of economic equality as best we can and if you want to hate on people and you want to buy all of that, swing for the fences. We disagree with you. You even make us sick, but we're still going to fight for your right to not have to file medical bankruptcy. And I've just, at the end of my ropes with the ambiguity from Democratic leadership, and it is just more maddening than what's happening with MAGA, because I expect it from these people. We grew up in a red state. None of This is a surprise to me.

Donald Trump's song and pony routine is the same shit that it was 10 years ago. I can't even hardly listen to his press conferences anymore because of the sheer boredom of it. Because he can't diversify his crazy game at all. It's the same old, tired, boring shit with a lot more dementia sprinkled in. It's not even entertaining. It doesn't even really evoke that much emotion from me anymore. other than to say, is this guy, is this all he has? Is this all?

All right. Welcome to I've had it. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie, HBIC stands for Beaver. Head Beaver in Charge. We have a producer named Kylie, Kylie. Hi. I have to show you guys, and I'll describe it for the listener, what Anna got me.

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I thought was exciting. Well, you know, that would be the most exciting thing that would have happened to me. And then you posted the picture of you and your girlfriends and it was, they were, y'all were wearing like flannels and stuff. Did you notice the picture, Kylie? My girlfriend that moved up there, she had, she drives. So we're driving around in our full flannel gear, she drives a humongous, white, pickup truck because they have all this lumber and they're constantly so she's here we are the four

of us driving around in a pickup truck all over Maine yeah I like it's here to compliment to be called a lesbian thank you very much we know that you're welcome to kind of start a little rumor and that would mean I would have facts it's not that far fetched because she was on a girls trip that one time you remember and she came home she said Kylie I was on that girl's trip and we couldn't figure out how to work the vibrator. That's true. That is true. But it wasn't like we were going to use it. I had just said, I got this vibrator. I don't know how to use it. That's what I do with my girlfriends. Bring it on the trip and we'll figure it out. None of us could figure it out. But I don't know. And maybe if we'd been able to turn it on, we would have used it.

You never know. Okay, I've got a one-star review. It's titled Wow. And they write, definitely poster children for the failures. of the American Education System, Dumb, Political, Dumb. Okay. That's called projection. I just, I want to say, and I said this before, I am all, I am never not surprised by the intensity and action people take about something they believe is dumb or stupid. Right.

Like if I think something is dumb or stupid, I think the thought, and then I think, the thought, and then I let it go. I don't dig around the internet to go troll on ratings, you know, like people that write, you know, two and three star reviews on Yelp, and then you go and look and they're like an expert Yelper, 500 posts, you know? And it's like, some people, that's their whole identity. And a couple of weeks ago, I was like looking at my Instagram and it was just like die. We hope you get Charlie Kirk, all this shit. So while you're on your lesbian trip to So I text Kylie and I was like, hey, am I going viral somewhere or something? She goes, oh, yeah, Fox.

What was that? They said that I wanted to kill conservatives. And Democrats, which was odd. And Democrats, which of course I don't. Like, I don't even have a gun. I hate violence, whatever. You know, but they took a clip of something was said and I have news out of context. And so it just goes on all day.

And then, of course, they find your kids. So I was talking to my son last night. And he goes, Mom, are you going viral or something last week? And I go, oh, God, I'm so sorry. And he goes, yeah, I got some DMs. And I always respond, typical MAGA Petto coming into some kids' DM and then blocks them. Pretty clever of my child. Yeah, it's truly clever.

Okay, I've got a five-star review. This one is titled Refreshing Honesty and They Write. These hosts are the only people showing MAGA the energy they deserve. So naturally, the one-star patriots are crying. I love the honesty. it's giving me the confidence to tell the truth to the snowflake stupid losers in my life. Love it. Love it.

Love it. As we've mentioned, it should be a layup to call these people out because they're, number one, they're so stupid. Number two, they stand up for really bad ideas that we've already evolved past. And if, again, if your whole identity is trolling the internet, writing one's, star reviews or finding some podcaster's children online and just in your bio is like you know Christian patriot badass everybody knows you're a fucking nightmare I mean I know for sure if somebody puts their faith in their bio that they are the biggest nightmare on the planet

absolutely I mean if you have to tell me how Christian you are I immediately know you suck Oh, here's another one when I went when you were on your lesbian trip to Maine, Riley Gaines. Remember when we popped off on Riley Gaines? Yes. So then she responds that she's quote praying for us. And here's the thing with Riley Gaines. Riley Gaines, you are a walking, talking, breathing embodiment of exactly why someone should not be a Christian. Right. Your what's it called walk with Christ or testimony or witnessing? witness to or give to her witnessing or whatever it's like to see somebody like her that her whole identity is she finds her worth as a woman through marriage and then she encourages other people like this is how you can find your worth for some people that's a great component my marriage is a great component of happiness in my life but this project that everybody has to live her hypocritical Christian life, Riley Gaines, when she doesn't give a shit about kids losing snap benefits. She doesn't give a shit about the overt racism. She's never

thought deep enough to think, could my kid be gay? And if my kid was gay, am I big enough girl to put on my big girl panties to love my child through this? And it's just this knee-jerk, Christianity that is this, you know, centimeter deep only. And when I see the Riley Gaines of the world, and it's always looped into like her biblical worldview and all of this. Right. Biblical worldview. I think you are a walking, talking advertisement on why not to be a Christian. Yes. I mean, there's no empathy. There's no room that maybe not everybody's the same. There's no desire when you see injustice and the bullying of other human beings to put your body in front of that and stop it. And so she's a fuck twat. She's a fuck twat that came in fifth. I mean, her claim

to fame is coming in fifth in a swim race. Fifth. She also, like, if you notice, like people on Fox will say Olympic medalist and she never corrects them, which I don't think is very Christ-like to let a lie like that. No. She, they say she's an Olympic medalist. Stomfox, why would I, why am I surprised? They like nonstop. Yeah. All right. So, Kylie, do we have any news?

I do. I've got a couple news stories. The first one is not shocking. And it says, study shows America is officially one of the least peaceful places on Earth. The new study revealed the U.S. ranks among the least peaceful countries in the world, citing issues such as crime, political instability, and high incarceration rates as leading factors. I mean, the incarceration rates were something that I became privy to probably 15, 20 years ago. And because we have privatized the prisons, there is a financial incentive to incarcerate people.

And it's jarring how much more citizens we incarcerate than even the most like conservative Sharia law type places on the planet. the United States incarceration rates are bananas. Well, and, you know, when you think about there are as many guns in the United States as people. Like there's more. More. Okay. So there's more guns in the United States and people.

And there's school shootings. You have military in the streets with huge guns. Like, it's the guns, people. That doesn't surprise me at all with the political unrest. We've got National Guard reaming cars. into other people, you know, with masks on, like, doesn't surprise me in the least. And I tend to agree because when you have signs outside businesses in Oklahoma City that says you can't bring a gun in here, you know it's off the fucking rails. Okay, I've got another one. This one is

man who faked being a lawyer won all 26 of his cases before being arrested. This says in a story that sounds straight out of a movie, a man posing as a lawyer reportedly won 26 cases in court before they caught on. According to the reports, the imposter gained a strong following after repeatedly outperforming licensed attorneys in high-stakes case, earning him the nickname the real-life Saul Goodman. His success stunned both clients and judges before he was finally exposed and arrested. That is hilarious. And I love how, Pumps, I wish that in the U.S. How in the UK, the barristers have to wear the wigs. I think that would have been a really good look for you in divorce court with your gray wig on.

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potential savings will vary, not available in all states or situations. All right, Poms, I think it's time for our guests. You may remember the AI video. after the No King's rally when all of MAGA fuck twats were like, oh shit, like they really hate us. And this was a good rally and nobody got arrested and it was peaceful. And everybody's dancing and dressed in costumes and fighting for democracy. So they do what mature leaders of any country would do is they make an AI video of the toxicly masculine president wearing a queen's crime. around, Photoshop to be, I would say, 40, 50 pounds thinner than what he is in real life and took off about 30, 40 years of him, still look like shit for the record.

Flying an airplane, which we all know he could never do, and dropping shit on people. And one of the people that he dropped the shit on in this AI video is our next guest. And he is Harry Sisson, and he is a left-wing political commentator and social media influencer harry sisson welcome to i've had it oh god i'm so excited to be here with both of you i love both of you my mom loves both of you she'll send me she'll send me you guys like instagram reels all the time and um brief brief moment of honesty here i saw you guys at the dnc all the way back in twenty twenty four my mom was such fans of you then but i didn't come up to you because you guys were in the kind of creator area you looked a little stressed so i'm not going to bother them but

But I just, yeah, it's so cool to be here. Oh my gosh, the DNC was so fun. Wasn't it? We had so much hope. There was so much hope in that building. Yeah, I mean, can we just go back? You know what I mean? That feeling was so great.

And I think everybody there really was hopeful. I think we all believed that we were going to win and finally put Trump into history. But unfortunately we're here and we are dealing with, as you guys like to call him, like to call them kanks, big ankles, bruised hands, all that crap, you know. Yeah. So, I mean, we were just talking about him beforehand. But I'm starting to see, and I'm curious before we ask you what your grievances are, I'm curious if you've started to notice this. I feel like the maggot movement, with the exception of little Moses, Mike Grindr Johnson, who will go down with the ship with with kinks. Okay. He's not ever going to defect.

ever. He is going to go down. But I feel like a lot of the others are kind of moving on. I'm talking about Tucker Carlson, J.D. Vance, Marjorie Taylor Green. They are starting to treat him like the dementia-ridden lame duck that he is. And I'm starting to see the curtains close. And I'm starting to see them jockey and position themselves for a post kanks. How are we going to keep this cult to regime. Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. I think that's both happening on an elected official level, but also like a voter level. So as you correctly pointed out, people like, out of the blue, Marjorie Taylor Green is like, you know, I want people to have health care all a sudden. Crazy. Wonder why you're doing that now. That's interesting. You know, just like

180. And so you're seeing that with Marky Taylor Green and the other folks you mentioned. But even on a voter level as well, I mean, I think I just saw this poll the other day that young men, especially have really swung back toward the Democrats. I think people that look like me, straight white young guys are finally realizing that Donald Trump does not care about them. He's not fighting for them. All the promises he made to execute on day one have completely failed. And I think it's happening just across the country, elected and voter, you know. Love it. All right. Harry System, what have you had it with? Well, look, I should I start political or cultural? Because I've Let's do cultural first.

And once we get into political, we're going to beat the shit out of that, don't know. Okay. That sounds good. So this actually connects to the conversation we just had. And it's more of a reflection of, again, people that look like me, young, straight, white guys. So I've had it. And this is a big one for me, with certain people saying that certain music is girly or not

for everyone, that it's like gendered or you can't listen to it. And so, for example, people that say someone like Taylor Swift or. or Billy Eilish or the music they make, you can't listen to it if you're a guy. And my response, I think, is that these people are incredibly, incredibly talented. So you don't have to like their music. It doesn't have to be for you, but you can recognize their talent and recognize that maybe a guy that looks like you, plays football, goes to the gym, goes to bars, might be like, you know, Taylor Swift is actually a really talented songwriter, and it's not girly, per se,

or anything like that to listen to her and enjoy her expertise. Yeah, I feel like we're all, all the sudden, and I really do think it's because of this MAGA movement project 2025, the trad wives. We're going back to we have to have very defined gender roles. If you listen to that, you're effeminate. If you listen to this, you're masculine. And it's just, we've worked so hard to get past these stereotypical, ridiculous gender roles. And I just feel like in the, and I know it's been long term, but it just seems like it's all come. in crashing out during this regime.

Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. I think it's kind of like an overused phrase, I guess, these days. And some people scoffy you when you say it, but it's a toxic masculinity that kind of comes with Donald Trump, supporting Donald Trump. There's, I think, a good way to be a man, like to operate in society, treat people well. And the bad way is everything that Donald Trump embodies, right? This, you know, this kind of gendered society where you can only do X, Y, and Z if you're a woman or a man and you have to fit this certain mold, which, by the way, Donald Trump doesn't fit any

of that. You know, he claims to be all healthy and look at him. I mean, you know. Honey, where's a full face of makeup every single day? And he's anti-d. Drag Queen. You know what I mean? It's just J.D. Vance with the eyeliner. But in that vein, Harry, I read this article and I thought it was really interesting. So I've really been reading a lot and talking to this professor from NYU named Ruth been Giot. And she talks about the strong man and how he has to project a certain level of masculinity. And this misogyny and homophobia are these main components of these autocrats. And the reason in that AI video that they picked you and you personally wasn't arbitrary, it was by design to send a signal to other young, progressive white men that they were pussies and

or a piece of shit or we will shit on you it what it was it was totally a part of the authoritarian script in that stupid AI video to personally pull a young white male popular liberal it wasn't just arbitrary and have you do you know anything about that or have you have you read that same article i can't remember where i read that but i thought it was fascinating no that sounds fascinating and if you get the opportunity to send us to send us it afterwards i'd love to read it um but i don't have like any background information on what trump's thinking was when posting the video i've tried i've reached out to journalists who i know and i'm like can you please ask him or ask a source in the white house what the thinking was and nobody's done it yet which i think is yet another failure

in our media but aside from that um yeah i mean i think you're right i think there's two main points i think it's you know targeting young straight white men who are meant to be their base and And so when they see someone like myself or my peers not falling in line, they think, oh, we're just going to attack them and intimidate them and whatever. I think that's a really good point. And humiliate. It's a humiliation ritual. Yeah.

Exactly right. And coming from the guy with the largest audience in the United States, the president, right, sitting in this huge office attacking a private citizen who's like 60 years is a junior or whatever it might be. So I think that's that's correct. And also the broader point in my view on this video is the attack on free speech. It's not just about, you know, me. I happen to be in the video, but there are plenty of people behind me, you know, in Manhattan protesting against him.

And I think what Trump did with that video is make it abundantly clear how he feels about dissent and people saying, well, you can go fuck yourself, you know. Right. And I do think it's interesting to point out that he has become so unattractive and so advanced in his senior citizen dementia era that he really has to be Photoshopped quite. quite a bit. Because to emit this strong man thing, he's out of shape. He has a pot belly. He has cancels. He has bruises on his hands. He has a neck vizine. You know, his hair is like a swirly thing. So their only option is to Photoshop him. And if you notice, they

Photoshop him in these homoerotic type roles. And I was talking to a couple of my gay friends over the weekend. And they said about the fighter pilot thing that it was very gay that a lot of gay men at Halloween and of course this is anecdotal evidence their go-to costume is the top gun outfit and so all roads always seem to lead back to this internalized homophobia with these maga men and again we are huge allies of the LGBTQ plus movement and if somebody is passively having to live their life in the closet all of the empathy and grace and support to those people. But these fuck twads are actively, actively, you know,

demeaning the LGBTQ plus community, marginalizing, grifting off of them. And in the case of Lindsey Graham or Moses and Mike Grindr Johnson or J.D. Vanson, this is just my opinion. And I've read about it on Elon Musk's free speech website that they're fetishizing these people that they demean and weaponize against during the day. They're fetishizing those at night. And you can look no further to where just where bulks of them go and grinders crash

and left and right. And so I think it's interesting how they game up a lot in these videos. Yeah. I mean, that is such a good point. And also, you know, every time there's a major Republican gathering, it's just coincidental that grinder crash. Right. You know, I'm not here to speculate, right?

I'm not here to speculate as to what's taking place there. But that's a really good point. And you see it on the White House Twitter account, Instagram, whatever social media page. They post these really weird photos of Donald Trump, like riding a horse with a tank behind him. He's putting an American flag. It's so strange. And in addition to that, I get Republicans in my comments on Twitter especially making AI videos of me, a straight white guy with other men, with other elected officials. And I'm like, look, I say this to my friends.

You know, if you're, if you're taking time out of your day to go into an AI bot and be like, take Harry Sisson and make him make out with another man. Right. There's something. And again, we're big allies. There's something you got to be honest about here, you know? Right. You're lying to yourself.

You're lying to. There's no. And if you have that in your phone, you're storing it of these, you know, people in social media doing this stuff. That, look, I'm not going to, I'm not going to expect, but you got to be honest with yourself. There's something. So I'm taking place. I just think if you look at how much that party talks about the LGBTQ plus community, they get triggered by rainbow flags.

Yes. And you were talking about they were triggered by Billy Elish or Taylor Swift, but also throw in bad bunny. You know, these people operate from a position of fear. They're scared of a straight, white progressive. They're scared of the now liberal white women are ruined. democracy. They're scared of a bunny. They're scared of comedians. They're scared of

cracker barrel. They're scared of the little mermaid. They're scared you guys. And on and on. Yes, I've had it ladies. These people, their default setting is this debilitating fear. Yet they have to project this crazy masculinity that's so toxic. And then if you, you know, when you start deep diving into this, one of their big influencers, Benny Johnson, kind of outed himself with the gay cruise thing. And I just think, and I'm an interior designer when I'm not a podcaster. So I've hung around a gaggle of gay men my entire adult life.

They don't talk about gay shit as much as MAGA talks about gay shit. It's just, it's unbelievable. And that's so fascinating that they make AI videos of you doing gay stuff. Because clearly that's, you know, the shame and the repressed sexuality is a huge component, I think, of this. If you are ever bored one night and you just want to like look into the mind of these MAGA losers, just, you know, go into my Twitter comments and you'll see AI photos of me in like this skin tight leather or... I'm going to do it the minute we finish recording. Yeah. It's not going to be bored.

I'm going to prioritize this to the top of my deli-to-do list, Harry. It's so my comments section on Twitter is the worst platform. Obviously, it's run by, you know, this weirdo musk who's constantly high. But yeah, if you just take a look at my Twitter, you will see the craziest most unimaginable shit in there that any sane person that is functioning in society would not be able to think of. They're just freaks. They're freaks. Right. Like a normal person is not rolling around thinking about putting hair and Harry Sisson in, you know, Lycra.

A eutatard. In the AI, I mean, the AI, who sat there? I want to know who sat there and put Donald Trump in a fighter jet. shitting on harry sis and another p i need to know who came up with that prompt and what they've been diagnosed with that makes them so weird and and something and act in this way it's crazy oh i know i know i know i know what they're diagnosed with okay these are religious addicts that probably have some sort of uh sexual shame and then oftentimes when they're not praying they find themselves on porn hub and they're looking at things that they think might be sinful and it's just this you know

this crazy, crazy pattern. And I think a lot of these people think, okay, we can do all of this stuff, particularly like Moses, Mike Grindr Johnson and some of the Supreme Court justes who have been just so fundamentally disappointing. I always think, what's the rub? Because everything they're doing is so anti-Christ-like. And I think that they think they've been such personal failures for themselves and they have so much guilt and shame from their religion that they think, okay i can do all this stuff gay stuff and other stuff fly crazy flags and do all this mean stuff if i deliver america to jesus and i think that's literally what they believe i think that's kind of what we're dealing with is this crazy christian cult and listener if you're a christian like

you know i'm not talking about you but every religion has these fanatics and america has a crazy christian problem yeah yeah i mean totally in addition to that i also think we have um just these I think a lot of America's problems can be boiled down to very small, very insecure, egotistical men in power. I really, really believe that. I think, and they have self-confidence issues. They have never been happy in their own skin. They have never accepted who they are, whether they be gay, straight, whatever, you know,

whoever they are. They've never accepted who they are. They've always been unhappy. And they take that sadness out on other people. And I think Donald Trump is that kind of narcissistic psychopath, but I also fundamentally believe that Trump is incredibly unhappy. And then he takes Zangrout and other people. What about Stephen Miller?

What do you think about him? You think he's a osteopath? Here's what I want for Stephen. Yes. And here's what I want for Stephen Miller. The White House has been talking about this UFC event that they're going to have for the 250th anniversary on the White House lawn. I boxed for four years. I want to fight Stephen Miller at the UFC event.

I want them to take the job. Get me in there with Stephen Miller. He talks such a big talk on Twitter, and I want these elected officials participating in this UFC event on their front lawn. And I would happily, I choose Stephen Miller. I bid on Stephen Miller for the fight, please. That's what I want. Harry, I love it and I support it. Okay, let's shift gears here really quick.

And before you came on, we were talking about one of MAGA is what MAGA is. And there are dips shits and fuck twats and all the stuff we talk about. And you can rinse and repeat and they do the same shit over and over because they're painfully unoriginal, right? But when it gets to the Democrats, I am really, really frustrated, not with all, but with a lot in leadership that they are ambiguous about positions that they need to have and that I feel like they are compromised by the same entities that paid hundreds of millions of dollars to get Trump elected, which is APAC, paid the exact same amount that Elon Musk paid. And when we asked them direct questions about this, we get bullshit answers. And I can't think of anything more toxic that a

Democrat could do right now would be take donations from Elon Musk, who gave over $300 million to Trump to get him elected. APAC gave over $300 million to Canks to get him elected. And somehow, we're crazy or anti-Semitic or just don't get it if we call them out on that. And I just am at my wits end with it. And so I want to know what your take is on that. Yeah, well, I first of all, loved, and I like Cory Booker for the record. I do too. I like him too.

But I loved your clip with him. You know, if you know what I'm talking about where you talk to him about this. And he kind of, again, I love Cory Booker. Please don't hate me. where he was kind of gave that politician-esque answer when you asked him about this. And Jennifer, you were just like, that's total bullshit. It's just total bullshit. And I really appreciate that.

And I think that's kind of the way we have to approach it. I think going into 2028 or even 26, there should not be a single Democrat who takes money from APAC if they want to win. If they want to win. I mean, you know, they can do the risk return calculation in their head as, you know, I can take this money and put X amount of advertisements out. but it is so toxic for the brand now and for them to then it's not just taking the money right taking the money is one thing but then they get on on your show or other people show and then when they're asked about it they give that kind of bullshit answer and people who are frustrated right now in our base can see right through it and they don't want that they don't want the tiptoeing dancing around they want the authenticity um and so no i mean i agree i just don't think that going into any future election any democrat can take it um until further notice at least I agree. And I like Cory Booker, too. But I feel like at this stage in this coup, that you have to be the most credible messenger that you can be. And if your response to a podcaster is, oh, these purity tests. And it's like, it's not a purity test, dude. We just see you being hypocritical about something. And we want to call you out. And I think Democrats like Cory Booker, Hakeem, Chuckles, they need to do more podcasts. And they need to do more podcasts. And they need to. to put themselves through the grinder. I just love them. I love them. I love it. We need to, they need to put themselves through

the grinder. And this is what MAGA does. And if you misstep and you realize, oh, shit, that didn't play very well. I need to re-look this. Take another look at this. And it makes you a better candidate and it makes us a better political party. That's the epicenter of democracy, feedback. And then here's another thing I'm noticing about the Democrats. Like, I feel like our party, we need to be the party of evolution. I'm not talking about the Charles Darwin type. I'm talking about like, okay, we did the whole corporate thing after Citizens United. It fucked the working class. It left this vacuum. We need to get off that tit. We thought it was going to be okay. And we thought we could be pretty good at capitalism because it's Republican presidents that always tanked the economy, not

us. So we always had that. But we're leaving this vacuum. And grifters like Marjorie Taylor Green can fill it or Tucker Carlson, who I believe is going to run for president can fill it. And we need to evolve and say, okay, that wasn't good. We're going to have to stop. And I feel like the Democratic establishment now reads like conservative, like that they want to preserve that system, like they're preservationists. And I, not all of them. There's some that I just like Bernie loving, AOC, love, Crockett, love it. You know, there's some that I'm just like, love, love, love. But the ones

that are in charge, I'm just like, what can we do to get them to not be in charge? Yeah, I mean, I mean, exactly. You know, we're just in such a weird moment with our leadership right now where it really feels, I think, for average people that if you are a Democrat, you know, lifelong Democrat and voting

Democrat, that they don't feel like, number one, they're voting in favor of what you want to happen, but also number two, they're not standing up you in the sense that they're not fighting against Trump, they're not standing up to these corporate packs or this corporate money saying, we don't, you know, this is not us. And I think you made a good point on the vacuum that's left. If we, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are fully on the side of we're going to take money from all these huge corporations and we're going to use it to run our campaigns, people are not stupid. They will see that and

they'll be like, well, these parties are the same. They're pissing me off. And that's why both parties have such low approval ratings. And then you have, as you mentioned, someone like Marjorie Taylor Green who can take the populist approach who has a big national figure who's also loony tunes and to average people he might sound sane and that's you know it's it's we we cannot allow that we are shooting ourselves in the foot constantly and it is so frustrating I know you guys feel that frustration too but it's just these these missteps that we're making that are allowing these grifting losing I will be nice these fuckers to win you know that's what I like Carrie and you know that's the thing about the Marjorie Taylor Green. If you look at what she's doing right now,

it's very politically savvy. We all know not to fall for it. But if you're a troll online and you're mainly looking at cats or whatever, and then all of a sudden something political pops up in your algorithm. And then you hear her say something that makes sense, but you're not a political junkie like the three of us. And you're like, oh, well, she doesn't seem to be as crazy as she used to be. And you live in a flyover state where Pumps and I are from and people are heavily indoctrinated to be Republicans. You'll vote for a crazy Republican more than a sane Democrat any, any, any day. And I think that Democrats operate under what I call assumption politics. We assumed in 2016 that Hillary would win. We assumed in 2024 when it was

high times at the DNC, when we didn't say how to each other because we were having too much fun at those creator lounges. We assumed these people saw what happened on January 6th, and they're not going to vote for him. And right now, the Democratic leadership is assuming that people are going to think Marjorie Taylor Green and Tucker Carlson are too crazy, but they haven't learned their lesson.

People will vote for a crazy Republican. And her all of a sudden, like you said, her interest in health care. And this message that she has, we're not America first. It seems like we're Israel first. Why do they get health care and why do they have higher education? To a person that lives and flyover America, when they hear that, that is going to hit hard as fuck.

Her intention is not based on human rights and that she sees genocide and her heart is broken. Her intentions are that she's a Christian nationalist, anti-Semite, who thinks the Jews need to be in Israel in order for the rapture to happen. She's a rapture prepper. That's why she's saying that. But the Democrats are getting outflanked constantly right now by Tucker and by March because the leadership takes A-PAC money, the same fuckers that spent the same amount as Musk, the Heil Hitler guy, to get Canks elected. And I'm just like, I've had it.

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I guarantee she's working with these really savvy consultants who are telling her, you know, some of the two biggest issues in America right now are the Middle East where everybody is paying attention, whether you're politically involved or not. We've all seen horrific videos on our algorithms that just break your heart, right? That's a big issue. And then healthcare, these two big issues. So we want you to just be the outlier in the Republican Party and frame yourself as a populace who cares about the people and get out there and just spread that message.

And as soon as she did that, yeah, she's going on the view, she's going on Bill Marr, she's going on CNN. She's doing all these like, you know, the places you would have never seen Marjorie Taylor Green before. And now, unfortunately, as you mentioned, you have these people who are not so politically savvy, which I understand they have jobs, they have families, they've got to focus on themselves. Kind of, oh, well, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green, she doesn't sound so crazy anymore. Right. And that route right there that we're talking about, the positions at Marjorie Taylor Green, those are positions that on those two topics. at least, that we, the Democratic Party, should be getting out there and spreading. We should be the one saying, yeah, we got to extend ACA subsidies, and we have to make that our

entire thing right now. We got to talk about the Middle East and the atrocities we are seeing and be honest about that, not say, well, you know, it's a war and it's both sides. No, no. Right. And so we can't see ground to somebody like Marjorie Taylor Green, who is so loyal to Donald Trump and so crazy on the inside, no matter what her seven-figure consultants are telling her to say. Her seven-figure consultants seem to have a better pulse on the message than the Democratic consultants.

And that's that sentence right there. I'm so infuriating. It's so infuriating that that is the case. And, you know, this was part of one of my other I've had it's, but I'll just segue in. Let's hear it. Like the, I've had it with weak Democrats. That's what it is. We're kind of talking about that right now.

I've had it with weak Democrats. And one of my main points, and I was talking. to people about this yesterday is a lot myself and my peers we've never met ken martin we've never talked to ken martin the dnc chair he's never reached out to creators like me to talk about the messaging or anything like that he's never reached out to my peers and one of the facts that i learned about ken martin which was really astounding was one of the first things he did when he got into the dnc chair position was give himself a raise from 300 000 to 350 000 means that means he's making double what any member of Congress is making, number one. And also number two,

for the first time in a long time, the Republicans have raised more money than us. We are strapped for cash as a party. And Ken Martin gave himself a raise. And I think Ken Martin has done some great stuff as DNC chair. But it's these we're talking, these little missteps that are seeded around. Is he the one? Is he the guy that poo poohed David Hogg? He must have been part of it. I can't speak to whether he was the main guy, because I didn't really follow the internal discussion there, all that closely. But I imagine he was part of it. I mean, he's the DNC chair.

Yeah. Yeah, I just, I don't, I've seen him speak a couple of times. And I just feel like, you know, one of the points that Cory Booker made in the episode is he said, people don't know who Chuck Schumer is. And I'm just like, fair enough. I get that. They don't. But I thought about it after that episode.

And I thought everybody in America should know who the minority Senate leader is, because everybody knew who Mitch McConnell was. Everybody fucking knew who that motherfucker was. We all knew because he made sure we knew. And everybody should know who the DNC chair is right now. Everybody should know

who the House Minority Leader is right now. These are layups to start speaking at the podium. And again, these guys are dorks. These are insecure emotionally

stunted cosplayers. You got Cash Patel who was tweeting about his girlfriend last week

that she was a great American and a great country singing sensation. And she's done more for this country than

anybody could do in 10 lifetimes. She's fucking 26. And so it's just like Cash Patel's girlfriend.

How old is he? I don't know. Late 30, early 40s. But just the fact just the fact that he thinks she's accomplished so much for the country it's just so i mean these people are so idiotic okay all right harry let's move on and play our game you're gonna love it it it's called had it or hit it you're gonna love it everybody loves it oh my god welcome to had it

or hit it i would hit it i had it every day sometimes twice a day okay all right had it or hit it AI videos. Oh, I've had it. I've had it. I did, you know, the AI video that that put me over the edge. I thought, you know, maybe, you know, some people let the, let the boomers enjoy their AI videos. I love the boomers. But let them enjoy their AI videos and things like that. Now I'm fucking over it. We got to have some regulation there. I've had it with those. Tell me where you were when you saw that. Did somebody send it to you or did you, were you in your own phone and you saw it. No, I was, I was watching, so it was no Kings Day. It was just after the protest. I'd gotten home. I'd been home for a couple hours. And it was Alabama, Tennessee.

I was watching college football. And a friend of mine sent me a truth social link, which when that happens, there's something wrong. You know, nobody's on truth social. Nobody's on that hell site. If you're sending a truth, there's something going wrong. And my friend said, you know, I think, if I'm correct, you're in the president's AI video. And that was the text they sent me. And I, without even clicking on the link, I looked at it and I was, no, come on. Trump is crazy. He is off his rocker. He is suffering from cognitive decline.

But there's no way he's attacking a 23-year-old on social media. That's just, come on. And so I click on the link. And then what do you know? There's this ridiculous AI video. And I had to watch it a couple of times to process what I had just seen and realize that this is actually coming from the guy with the nuclear codes. Right. And then, you know, I think my reaction was just disbelief initially.

What a dip shit. Fuck what a dip shit. What a dip shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We upgraded dip shit to fuck twat because as the fascism escalates, we feel like our profanity should escalate along with it. Dipshit didn't seem satisfactory.

No. No, I don't think so. That was so wild. When I saw that, that AI video of you, because I had been at the No Kings March in New York, Pumps was at the one in Houston. Oh, no way. Yeah. And then I went and looked at. like you know because i'm like i wanted to see the aerial footage because when you're in the march you

don't you feel like it's big but you don't really know so i was actually on the internet i think probably instagram that's really the only social media website i get go on classic gen xer and um it popped up and i was like no fucking way and then i'm gonna find that article for you about them use the people he's not smart enough to have used you purposely but the people who made the AI video you were a purposeful choice to humiliate a young progressive male that was by design of this it was like a part of the autocratic playbook which i think is really interesting okay moving along had it or hit it gen z politics oh that's um uh i wish there was like a middle answer because i've both had it and hit it the reason i've had it is because as we talked about this episode

young guys that look like me, like consistently sabotaging not only themselves, but our country as well, but also I think there are a lot of great people in Gen Z. I think there are so many talented activists out there who are far smarter than me and are doing the work on the ground and are getting people out to vote and register to vote and they really care. So I look, you know what? Actually, I'll just say hit it because I won't let the losers drag me down. I'm going to say hit it because of these great people out there, I know. I agree. And we just, I read some polling that Gen Z has completely switched, even young males. Women, of course, have always been to the left and continue to lead on sanity.

But men your age have now are purging their Trump support, much like the Latinos for Trump and all of the other groups that he's losing. Okay, moving along. How did it or hit it, Joe Rogan? Oh, I mean, that's the easiest one yet. I've had it with Joe Rogan. I think his podcast used to be something that inspired productive discussion. Like a long time ago, that is.

Not really long time ago. Now it's just, you know, where can we find the craziest lunatic on vaccines or climate change or politics to come on and have a conversation? I mean, you'll have like a random guy on the sidewalk. It feels like pulled into the Joe Rogan studio and asked deep questions about mRNA vaccines and have them give this incredibly uninformed take. And then that hurts people in the process. And then they're taking horse tranquilizer the next day. Like, right. What, like, what are we doing? What are we doing? So I've had it. I've had it. And I think with Joe Rogan,

have y'all seen these clips where like you can tell like he automatically attributes intelligence and knowledge to somebody that has money? When they haven't earned that attribute, Like, especially when he's interviewing Elon Musk, he thinks, well, this guy's, you know, got a bank account that could choke a bull. So he must know what the fuck he's talking about when in actuality, Elon Musk is a junkie. He is completely strung out on ketamine. He is a drug addict. He is a baby producing addict. He cannot stop spreading his semen, which I read on his very website that he had a botched penile surgery.

And I wouldn't mention that, but I read it on his actual website. And the fact that he platforms and attributes intelligence to somebody who has money, I think is a real problem with American culture right now because that's what I think people did to Trump. I attribute it intelligence and success to him because he has money. When the truth of the matter is, he inherited money. He lost all of that money. He, you know, lies about his financial statements, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, moving along.

Had it or hit it read receipts. Oh, had it. I, wait, it depends. I've had it for myself. I like it when other people have them, though. I completely agree. I agree. That's, I hate, because I am the worst texter in the world.

I, you know, people who are like my best friends will text me and I'll text them a day later. I'll be like, oh, yeah, I'm sorry for the delay here. I'm so bad at it. And so I don't like that they know I've read their text message, but I'm okay with them knowing that they've read mine so I can be angry at them if they've ignored me. So I'm a hypocrite basically. Me too. I'm the same way about so many things like the environment.

I would like to think I'm an environmentalist, but I drive an SUV. I mean, there's just so I have so much work to do as a person. It's just un-fucking believable. Well, that's the beauty of it, constant progress, few steps forward, you know? That's that whole like evolving. We need to be the party of evolving, owning our mistakes, even if it's Cory Booker, even if it's Hakeem, and you want to, you know, say we were wrong about APEC, we're refunding it, we're done. I think that we have to make space if they choose to do that. These are the leaders we have and it's going to be all hands on deck to fight fascism.

Okay. Totally. Harry, last one, had it or hit it, J.D. Vance's Halloween costume. am. Oh, God, had it. He, I think it was Tommy Vitor, who you were talking to, and he said, I'm so sick of losing to fucking losers. J.D. Vance is such a fucking loser. He is such a loser. He's one of those insecure men I just described earlier. And I think, Jennifer, you described him as, like, you know, a failed drag queen. It's what he always wanted. And then he, you know, he had to write the book and, you know, pretend to be that. And then now he's vice president. It's what he always

wanted. He is such a loser. He's an insecure man. He doesn't have a job. All he does at the White House is troll. He went after me on Twitter. You cannot be an elected official at that high and going after 23-year-olds on social. They cannot be the way. And so I hate J.D. Vance. And so I've certainly had it with his dumb-ass costume, his dumb-ass face and everything he does. But I'm not bitter. I cannot stand this guy. I think it's such a window to his soul that he should be the ringleader on quieting and quelling these racist attacks and these xenophobic attacks considering he has a wife that's of Indian descent and mixed race

children. And then he's doing a slap and tickle on stage with Eric Kirk in the weirdest shit I have ever seen in my whole goddamn life. And then I read this online. that people were saying, and this is devastating, that he's not taking the lead on this, that Ushah Vance was a political liability for him if he wants to be the heir apparent of Maga. And you know what? I think this is a man, a grown-ass man who has changed his name three times. In adulthood. Three times he's changed his name. And so this is just, I think he is just the most malleable camellion puss boy bad eyeliner whacked out failed drag queen i think he would be happiest

if he could have been a drag queen you know in his book he wrote that he thought he was gay when he was little and then you know in college he dressed up in drag a lot which i support you know i think he could i think he could have gotten some tutorials from a more experienced drag queen and could have taken it over the finish line and made me not failed and he used to have a trans roommate and in the the the 180 to being a million times worse in the devolution of him and not evolving in a positive way but regressing it's just oh yeah i think j d vance um is going to soon come to terms with the monster he helped create which is you know the people that are now in the republican party the total racist loser

are freaks that are in the Republican Party. He and Donald Trump and members of it for years stoked the flames of hate. They said, the way to go is be a white Christian male and have your wife be subservient, but also have her be a white Christian woman. That was the way that they framed their ideal society in America. And then they got elected off of that hate. They played into people's worst tendencies and they got elected. And now J.D. Vance is clearly, you know, as he's malleable, he's power hungry. He clearly wants to be president. And he's going to have to reckon with the beast of all of these people hating his family. And to be transparent, any man with worth any worth, any worth anything would stand up to those people and say, don't come after my family. I'm going to stand up

for my wife and kids. I fullheartedly believe that J.D. Vance will not do that. I think he is such a coward, a baby. And if they come after his wife, he'll do exactly what we've seen so far. Like, you know, I want her to convert and I'm trying to get her there and you know all this bullshit I think he's going to do that truly no I don't think he'll ever stand up for his wife because he already would have he's had the opportunity but he doesn't it's so sad but didn't he okay so he's changed his name three times in adulthood he's changed his religion three times in adulthood he changed his position on America's Hitler to being the vice president this man will do whatever he thinks is in his best interest at the time and he doesn't think which what's so scary about that pumps

and harry is he will do not what's in his best interest but somebody far darker and somebody far more psychotic and that's peter teal his mentor and yeah and so it's just i mean it's really overwhelming it's overwhelming when you think about it but that's why i think it's so important for us to collaborate with collaborators like you across generational collab and for us to form communities and to help build our own democracy-centered ecosystem. And Harry, I just cannot tell you what a joy it's been having you on. And I hope that we can meet you in person. Maybe at some victory party somewhere at some point.

And I love to collaborate with you. Again, where are you based out of? I'm in New York City. So if you guys remember in New York City? My God, I just moved here. You're in Manhattan? Yeah. I just moved to Manhattan a month ago. My youngest child graduated from high school and I sent him to California. And I decided I didn't want to live in the Bible Belt anymore because I was always the skunk at the garden party being the progressive atheist in the Bible Belt. So I was sick of it. And I love Oklahoma. And there's a lot of great, I have a lot of great friends there. But I was really exhausted with a Bible culture. So I moved to New York. Wow. Have you been to New York before aside from living here? bunch yeah oh god well so you know it then i was going to say you are going to love it oh it is

i love new york city it is such an amazing place and so congratulations on the move that is so cool um and i'm here you're here and i know a lot of other people are here so we can definitely make something happen um and and do some cool stuff all right sounds great harry thanks so much thank you guys i appreciate it i'm so impressed with um he we've had some young uh progressives on this podcast And I'm just, I'm not going to brabeat Gen Z because I think that that generation, growing up with these phones and a lot of their coming of age years, Trump, being either in power or dominating the news cycle during Biden's, and I just am so impressed with the ones that have found their political voices. I think it was, what was that kid we had on? Tyler. Dean Withers. I liked him a lot and he was like 18 or 19.

Ridiculously. They are. Harry Sisson. Yeah, I just, I think they're doing so much to maximize the message in their age groups, particularly. And I can't help but compare them to what I was doing at 23 with fucking embarrassing myself, being an asshole, you know, making horrible. decisions. And so I'm like, I applaud this, this young generation. They're doing really good work. And they've had a lot that not only they always had Trump, they had COVID. Remember, they were alive? You know, yeah. And then I just think a lot. And the cell phones, I just don't think

we can overstay the damage of disconnecting, uh, them from other human beings. Um, in very critical developmental years that those cause and we're starting to see the damage of that. And so I'm so happy to collaborate with him. So listener, make sure you do us a favor. A great way to support this podcast is to buy our book. And we've been telling you about it for quite some time. Life is a lazy Susan of shit sandwiches. It's also very important to subscribe wherever you get your podcast or if you watch our

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