I've Had It - Broken Give a F**k Meter

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

The icon Lisa Rinna joins us to s**t-talk everything from vow renewals to Trump and his circle of losers. Pre-order our new book, join our Patreon Cult, and more by clicking here: https://linktr.ee/ivehaditpodcast. Thank you to our sponsors: Addyi: Addyi, The Little Pink Pill: See full prescribing information and medication guide, including boxed warning for severe low blood pressure and fainting, at http://addyi.com/pi Prose: Prose is SO confident that you’ll love your results this year that they’re offering an exclusive trial offer: FIFTY percent off your first haircare subscription order at https://Prose.com/hadit. Bilt: Start earning points on rent you’re already paying by going to https://joinbilt.com/HADIT. Follow Us: I've Had It Podcast: @Ivehaditpodcast Jennifer Welch: @mizzwelch Angie "Pumps" Sullivan: @pumpspumpspumps Special Guest: Lisa Rinna @lisarinna

So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Welcome to Asshole Island. Patriots, gay triots and vatriots. Cacaw, cacaw, cacaw. Give me one more cacaw because Trump's America. We need all the cacaws we can get. Triple your cacaw.

Triple your cacaw because we're in triple the dog shit. There's no question about it and I just want our listeners to know it doesn't matter who's in charge of this country. We still are citizens of Asshole Island and we will not relent and we will rebel and we are not going to pre-surrender to this bullshit. No, we're not. Absolutely not. Pumps, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with is the person that I have become because of my French bulldog. I have become everything I hate in people, on the internet, in real time.

Yesterday, I went to the paint store, talking to my neighbor because he's my builder, he has Frenchies, we're talking about our Frenchies. I start telling him about the trials and tribulations of my dog that attacks other dogs, that attacks my oldest child, all these things. The guy at the register says to me, oh, you have a French bulldog. Yeah, I heard a lot of bad things about them. And instead of just being like, who the fuck cares? This guy's just trying to get your paint. I have to go into a long diatribe about the attributes of my dog.

When I start telling him that I'm an empty nester with the first puppy after my kids leave, that is when I realized you're a yak mouth, you're talking to somebody about something they don't care about. All he wants to do is to check you off the list and get you out of his face. And so all of a sudden, like the self-awareness slapped me in the face. And I was just like, you know what? You don't care. I'm going to go stand over here and wait for the paint. I mean, I was just hanging my head in shame that I had become a yak mouth defending a

French bulldog to somebody that I don't even fucking know or care about and I will never see again. What the fuck is wrong with me? I just want to know in this journey of self-discovery and introspection that you found yourself in at the paint store, did it ever occur to you, I owe somebody an apology? No, because I've apologized 50 times and said, oh my God, I can't believe now I get it. No, do you want another one? Because I'll give you one. Yeah, I want it in the permanent record. Do you want another one? Cause I'll give you one. Yeah.

I want it in the permanent record. Okay. Okay. In the permanent record, all the shit I gave you about Tubby and all your over the top, mothering about Tubby. I was a hundred percent wrong. I didn't understand it.

I didn't get it. I didn't have a frame of reference for the kind of love that you can have for one of these dogs and that this dog can turn you into a nut. Right. Just a fucking nut. Yeah. And at the same time that you want to just scream

because this little French bulldog acts like such a shit. And then he gives me a little face, and I just melt away. So I am sorry. Thank you. I forgive you. Thank you. I forgive you. It's Trump's America. I'm going to be more forgiving. That's right. We've got to forgive the people that we care about more.

Let me tell you, our grievances today are rather adjacent. Let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with people who, you over to their house and they're like, oh, we don't let our dogs on the sofa. Okay. And I just want to be like, then you know what? I'm leaving. You don't let your dog on the sofa.

I don't want to be your friend. I don't want to sit on the sofa. I don't want to sit around you. Why on earth? And they're all so braggadocious about it. Oh, we don't let our dogs on the furniture. And I'm like, number one, why'd you get a dog? And number two, why are you bragging about being such a bad pet owner?

There's this elitist, like, I'm better, I'm a better person than you because, oh, we don't let our dog on the sofa or we don't let our dog sleep with us. Like, I don't sit around and say, oh, I let my dog on the sofa or we don't let our dog sleep with us. I don't sit around and say, oh, I let my dog on the sofa. I let my dog sleep with me. I don't feel the need to say that because I know I'm in the right. Right. When you're right, you don't have to explain it all the time. These people and this constant bragging about how they have these boundaries with their pet. And I'm like, number one, I think you're just revealing that you're a bad person. And I just think the next time I'm at somebody's

house and they start this nonsense, I'm going to say, well, if your dog can't sit on the sofa, I'm going to sit on the floor. I wonder what they would say. You know, here's when somebody says that like, oh, I don't let my dog on the sofa or I don't let my dog sleep with me. I don't let my dog eat people food. Just quit bragging. Shut the fuck up. I think it's a flex. I think they think they're flexing.

My dog's better behaved than your dog. That's what I kind of get. Yeah. I just want to get to the point where I can say my dog doesn't attack other dogs. That's my goal. I can't even fathom the sleeping and the couch. The problem with you and your dog, Oliver Glizzard is the dog's name, whom I call Glizzy. The problem with you and Glizzy is he needs a pack leader.

And you see what happens when you bring him to the office to visit me. He immediately obeys commands. He looks up at me adoringly and dogs thrive in this. You need to be a better. It's not that the dog is bad. It's your leadership in the relationship with your dog is bad and you need to get on YouTube and watch how to be a pack leader with my dog. I seriously, I think it's not a bad idea. They need that's the way that it's in their DNA and you're just like, there's no boundaries with him.

And you know, when your son, your oldest son started, like, I think he was, I believe your daughter told me he was double birding him saying, fuck you, fuck you, you little spoiled dog. And the dog reacts. I'm team dog at that point. Because if somebody was doing that to me, I'd want to growl and bark at them too. And so I think what we're lacking here is dog leadership. You've got to get on the dog leadership.

And you need to learn to be a pack leader. And to all of the people listening that don't let their dogs on the sofa and are so sanctimonious because my dog doesn't sleep in bed with me and my dog only eats dog food. Give your dog away. Go find your dog a good home. You're a bad pet owner. I'm tired of the bragging about like that you have this boundary with a creature that lives on average 10 years. That's all they've got. You're not going to let them sit on the sofa because you think you're such a badass boundary boss bitch. You boundary boss bitch. Let your fucking

dog on the couch. I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. All right. Welcome to I've had it. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. She is a Oh, you are the biggest egomaniac in podcasting. You love that so much. I was great. Kylie, what's going on on the internet? I've got a couple of reviews for you guys. Do you wanna start with the one star or the five star? The one. One.

Okay, one star titled Chronic Complaining. And they write, I get not liking the current political situation, but incessantly complaining about it helps no one. There's not a single show in which these women offer the audience any type of solution to their complaints about the current environment. Like you will probably catch cancer from their negativity. Here's what I have to say to this one star reviewer is you're spot on. We are a problem recognition podcast. That's what we traffic in. We traffic in identifying problems and grievances.

As to the solutions, we're way over our skis on that. We would never be so arrogant and pretend to have so much hubris that we could solve said problems. We like to just revel in the grievance of the problems. Yeah, but I will say, I do think we've had a couple of really good ideas on the problem solving. The TSA people, but if you're not ready- Social referees. Social referee, you have to go to the back of the line,

Uber rating, people at restaurants, like the patrons. Don't vote for Trump, that was a great idea. And we pushed that, we tried. That was a really good idea. That was a really good idea. That was probably the best idea we've had since we started this podcast. Do not vote for Trump, do not be a MAGA moron.

But apparently. Nobody listens to us. Nobody listens to us. All they hear is problem. All they hear is problems. But we do like to traffic in problems. The name of the show is I've had it. The whole point, the whole premise is complaining.

We'll show you how to fix it. No. To that reviewer, the name of the podcast is not, we'll fix it for you. We'll fix it. Solutions are us. That's what we need to change the name to and really push our social referees.

Okay, what's the five star? Okay, five stars titled, I Would Save Blessica. This is from Norway and they write, every week when I tune into the podcast, I think of that long ago, fateful time in US history when baby Jessica fell down the well. Pumps is so much older than Blessica that she will remember that circumnavigated tragedy.

If today our amazing Blessica were to suffer the same fate, I would also demand that unnecessary community resources be used to save her. Thank you both from a gaitriot in Florida. When did I fall down the well? What are they talking about? Isn't that an old movie, Baby Jessica, that fell down the well? Yeah, remember the girl that fell down the well? It was in Texas. Yes. The little baby. Yes, yes, yes, yes. It took me a minute.

I knew before you guys. That's incredible. That was before you were even probably alive. Hey, listen, thank you, Norway. And I do believe that when you look at the happiest countries in the world, Norway is like top five. Yeah, for obvious reasons. They have lots of freedoms. They're hot. Trump's not their president. Number one, first and foremost, Mike Johnson doesn't run around.

They're not religious whack jobs. Right. They're normal. Yeah. They're just religious whack jobs. Right. They're normal. Yeah. They're just kind of a live-in-let-liver. Okay. I have some news stories that I would like to share with you and our audience. And I'm going to read to you this first story. And I feel like they possibly got the nationality of this woman wrong. Okay.

Because I think that it could have possibly been you. The headline is, French woman scammed out of $850,000 after believing she was dating Brad Pitt. The fraudster posing as the Hollywood star built an online relationship with Ann using AI-generated images and emotional manipulation. Claiming to need funds for cancer treatment after his accounts were frozen by ex-wife Angelina Jolie, the scammer convinced her to send nearly 830,000 euros. Ann grew suspicious after seeing Brad Pitt with his real girlfriend, leading her to report the incident to the authorities.

Okay, here's the deal. Weren't you recently in France? I was recently in France. And I will be the first to tell you I fall for most scams, pretty much most scams. But when I read that story, I thought, why would she think Brad Pitt needed $800,000? And then that makes more sense, that Angelina froze his assets, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I go back to, if you haven't seen him in person,

like as crazy as I am about falling for scams, I hate to say it, but I just don't think I would send somebody $850,000 that I'd never met in person. Moreover, that I think is Brad Pitt. Let me ask you this. When's the last time you were on that prison website dating matchup thing? It's been over a year. Okay, let me ask you one more question, and I'm sure people are gonna get mad at me for needling you on this, but I cannot help myself.

Okay. When you had that affair with that married man, here's the timeline that I remember, is a friend of yours noticed on his Facebook page, he's at like a football game doing like the hook and horn thing or maybe the hook and horn down, I can't remember. And on his left ring finger, there's a wedding band. Right. And so then you confront this man that you had been dating for several months. And he tells you that he wore the wedding band for the feelings of his coworkers

so that they wouldn't, he didn't tell them about the divorce. He's been divorced for 10 years, but he continued to wear the wedding band. So the coworkers didn't get upset about his divorce. And I believe, I don't believe, I know that then you called me and you said, oh, it all makes perfect sense now. Yeah, until I said it out loud.

He he wears the ring because he hadn't told his coworkers. And so he's really still divorced. Blah, blah, blah. And I go, Angie, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, originally you kind of bought that. Yeah, because when you don't say it out loud, sometimes when you're just in your head and you're like, okay, da da da, and then you say it out loud, you're like, that fucking's crazy. Right.

But I really don't think I would send $850,000 to a person that I've never seen in person. So let's do your punch list. You're never going to date an inmate. Right. Never going to date an inmate. And, never going to date an inmate. And you would not fall for a scam of someone impersonating a celebrity. Brad Pitt.

Oh, any celebrity? Any celebrity. Yeah, I don't think I would. I think you could fall prey. Well, how would I even think that? You believe that that man wore that wedding ring for the feelings of the coworkers. This is 850,000 dollars worth.

I know. Okay, another news story is evangelical pastor says, that wedding ring for the feelings of the coworkers. Another news story is evangelical pastor says Jesus hasn't returned due to the lack of donations. What? During a recent four-day live TV event entitled Victory Thon, Right-wing evangelical pastor Jesse Duplant claimed that people are not being generous enough to churches. Hence, why Jesus has not returned from the dead, he says. I honestly believe this. The reason why Jesus hasn't come is because people are not giving the way God told them to give. When you understand this, you can speed up the time.

He continued to suggest that if people called the number at the bottom of the screen, God the Father would say, Jesus, go get them. Here's the sad thing about that. People called that number and gave money because of that. I mean, that's so fucking crazy. And that is not limited to this generation. I remember, now you're probably too young, but there was a crazy ass minister in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Oral Roberts. Oral Roberts. Oral Roberts. And he locked himself in the top floor of a building, like it was a super high building. And he said he would not come down because Jesus would not want him to come down until he had a million dollars in donations. And as soon as he got the million dollars in donations, boom. I don't know if it was, if Jesus was going to kill him. I thought he said that God was going to kill him if he didn't get the donations. Well I mean my memory served was he had to get the donations before he could come down.

If your version of it is that, Kylie Google it, what Oral Roberts was, what was his thing? Was he going to, if your thing was that he was going to lock himself in the tower until he got a million dollars. He was going to die if he didn't get eight million. He's going to die. Oh, he was going to die. God was going to kill him. Okay.

Did he get the eight million? Because it seems like he didn't. He did. He did. Golly. So, yeah, my mother- Right, she was probably more into it than I was. So into all of this because she's not religious at all and we had to live in this Bible belt.

She's like, look at what a scam this guy is. And to me, that's fraudulent. That's just total fraud. It's totally criminal. And the fact that the federal government and the IRS has not rained hellfire on these racket bullshit indoctrination schools, all these asshole academies, all of these all over the United States that raise these kids to think that if they have sexual thoughts that they're going to hell and all this Christian nationalism bullshit all the way to this guy.

The fact that that hasn't been handled. And they commit fraud and financially abuse people with impunity in this country. And all of it led to, just like the Stanley Cubs, Trumpism. All of it, all of that shit led to Trumpism. I guarantee you the student body at Oral Roberts University is a MAGA pep rally. I'm sure. And you know the porn and the gay sex. Oh, you know it is just off the charts. The fact that they're still operating after somebody committed that kind of scam. And people wonder, I wonder how Trump got elected.

I wonder. There's a straight line. Fishy. It's fishy. Really fishy. Okay. Today we have a guest. Kylie was just telling me that this guest is a gay icon.

Yeah, she is. Much like Pumps. Well, I don't know about that. She is. Much like Pumps. I don't know about that. And her name is Lisa Rinna. And Pumps and I are old enough to remember when she was on the soap opera called Days of Our Lives.

I never missed her. Her name was Billy. I remember that. I remember Days of Our Lives you could still watch while you were in school because it came on at like 3.30. So you could get home from school at like three, race in and watch days. And God, soap operas were such a part of growing up in the 80s. Yes. And we all talked about it. Like it was like, oh my gosh. And like you'd have to,

like I remember missing class in college when there was something going on on days. Like I couldn't miss it because there was something going on on days. Like I should have just skipped to Friday because nothing would have happened. But anyway, yeah, soap operas were huge. Anyway, she has had a long career including acting, soap operas, modeling, including a little stint in Playboy Magazine. She looks good.

Mom of two, married to Harry Hamlin for 20 years and just recently left the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And we're gonna get all of the tea. Let's welcome to I've Had It, Lisa Renna. Listener, this may come as a total shock to you, but Pumps and I have not always been this pulled together and rock solid.

In fact, we used to be rather screwed up when you say Pumps. I would say damn near psychotic. Totally. And we have written a cell phone expose. One could even say it's a manifesto. And the book title is Life is Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. In all sincerity, we share a lot of our struggles that led us to this grand stage where we can

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in that little room by the nurses station. And I just thought, I fucking love her. You guys, you know how long ago that was? Let's not talk about it. Yeah, let's not talk about it. Guys, that was like 35 years ago. No, I was all in. I mean, I remember when you were coming on, the first thing that thought in my head was,

oh my gosh, Billy's coming on. I would get off the school bus and race home to turn the days of our lives. No. Yes. Insane. I know. I mean, we all grew up watching it. I watched it with my mom. So imagine growing

up watching it and then getting a role on the show. It was like I'd won an Oscar. I swear to God. My mom was 25. I bet that was so exciting because soap operas for, we have a lot of younger listeners, but back in the day, like soap operas were peak glam, like the prettiest actors were always on soap operas. You know, I never thought of it that way, but you're right. I mean, and you're in people's homes every single day. So it's like, well, I think, you know, Housewives kind of became that in a way, but nothing is like that because it's

every single day, five days a week. And so the audience just really feels like they know you. I mean, there's no fan like a soap fan. No fan like a soap fan. As you can tell 35 years later, we're still... We're team Billy. We're team Billy all day. Yay!

Okay. So, Lisa, we like to traffic and specialize in petty grievances. Oh, fabulous. We like to park our asses in the problem and just let it marinate there for a little bit. I actually know that you do that. So to be on brand, what have you had it with? Oh, well, what comes up for me right away is people telling me to act my age and grow up. Grow up. Watching a dance video of mine where I'm clearly being, you know, ridiculous and stupid. Grow up.

Okay. So my question to you is how old do you have to be in order to be grown up? I mean, I think that's a great question. Also you get so many mixed messages from the internet. You're only as young as you feel. And then when you start acting young and you're having fun, then it's grow up. And what I think this leads into are all of these keyboard courage warriors that sit and monitor and patrol and write up on people's comment section. Because I love that your give a fuck meter is broken. I think that is like so

liberating as a person to finally let your give a fuck meter go. Yeah. And I love that about you. Thank you. It's true. I mean, that's gone. Long gone. I think when I turned 50, the give a fuck meter went out the window, to be honest. Like it just, I just didn't care at all. And I still get myself in, you know, a great amount of trouble, but I still don't care. I really don't. I'm like, what's the worst thing that can happen to me?

I mean, that's the way I look at it. It's like, I've already been through so much. Fuck it, I'm just gonna have a good time. And if you don't like it, then don't follow me. I mean, I'm not putting a gun to your head to watch my content. That's what makes me laugh. I'm like, okay, so you actually don't follow me. I mean, I'm not putting a gun to your head to watch my content. That's what makes me laugh. I'm like, um, okay, so you actually don't follow me, but you're still here watching telling me to grow up. Yes, we get that all the time. It's hate watching. They love to hate. Oh, I've never

thought of it like that. Does that give them a hit of dopamine? Oh, 100%. But they love to hate you, which I started that with the love part. We get trolled all the time online. Oh, I bet you do. But I just think like, I'm just so flattered that even if it's hate, that they're taking the time to stop by and put that energy into that. Because if I don't like something, call me crazy, I don't invest energy into it. Same. Exactly. The energy that they put into their hate is something that I find complimentary. That's really good.

I love that. You know, you're absolutely right. And you know what's ironic? I find that let's say I were to see that person in person and say, Hi, they would be like, Oh my God, I love you so much. Or even if I respond to them and clap back for a second, they love it. They're like, Oh my God, you noticed me. They just want attention. God love them, you know, negative or or positive like a toddler. Yes. Yeah, it's true. Okay, so how many seasons were you on

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? Eight. Eight, and so the last season, was it your idea to leave or did y'all part ways mutually? Well, both. It was my idea to leave first, and then they didn't stop me. You know what I mean?

Like no one said, oh, please don't go. So to me that tells you that it's time to go. Cause I said, I'm leaving. That's it. I think they show my email at the end of one of the, or beginning of one of the new seasons saying, you know, after the reunion I came home and now I look back on it. I was going to say goodbye on the reunion. I was actually going to announce it on the

reunion and then I chickened out. And so once I got home, I sent the email. So, okay. I want to ask you a question about, um, now you're off Real Housewives, you are glad that you're off. And everybody's gonna think that I'm the skunk at the garden party for asking this, but I'm gonna ask it. Do you think that some of these housewife shows that depict women in the most stereotypical, cartoonish ways that our personalities can be in the overall trajectory of women

trying to advance in workplace, politically, et cetera, is helpful or hurtful? Because I go back and forth. Well, I think it's both. But I also think that's kind of. Our issue as women, you know, in general, like we don't get. 100% positivity, we're always fighting stereotypes. Yeah. Right. And that is like typical.

And it's hard to do that because I mean, to do a show like that, because you're at the mercy of the edit. You know, people really saw probably 20% of who I am and who all the women are. You don't really see us other than how we are edited. really. You know what I mean? And it serves the story. It's much easier to build a character that way, whether you're a good girl, a villain, however they wanna do it. Listen, we all have all those sides to us.

It would be easy to make me really nice and it's easy to make me a real bitch, which they've done, they did all of that on the show in eight years. Okay, now we're going to play a game and we have an extended version of it called had it or hit it. Oh my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Okay, Lisa, had it or hit it couples tattoos? Had it. Okay. What would you do if Harry Hamlin came home today and he had a Lee I love Lisa tattoo on his bicep? Oh, it'd be kind of cute actually. If you think about it. Would you reward him with sex?

Would it turn you on? I don't know if it would turn me on. I think it's cute and sweet. I don't think I don't love tattoos. I have no tattoos and I'm not a big tattoo chick. You know what I mean? So I know I'm not I'm not gonna. I mean maybe I'll give him a blow job, but

I mean, just for the effort, right? Right. For the, for the pain that he suffered. I love it. Okay. Next up, had it or hit it. Hugh Hefner. Oh, oh, oh, it's a tough one. It's hard. Yeah, because you know, I have history there. But I'm gonna say both. Can I do both? Yeah, of course. Both. So you went to the Playboy Mansion? Yeah, they had a party at the mansion for me when I did my first Playboy pregnant with Delilah. And I had only just had her six weeks earlier, so I was a fucking mess. I was like a mess. So I barely remember it going to the Playboy mansion, like totally postpartum. Like how insane is that? You know, we talked about this once. We had those girls, the girls next door on the podcast. You know, we talked about this once. We had those girls, the girls next door on the podcast.

And Hugh Hefner, like if you grew up in our generation, he was ubiquitous. It was kind of like every male wanted to be him. But he died in the perfect time, like right before the Me Too movement, because that motherfucker would have been KO'd like nobody's business. I mean, he would have never recovered from it.

So we asked them that, and then we're asking you that. And it's kind of like our pre-me too brain, you kind of think, oh, hit it. And then you start to think about what all women had to go through and then it's like, oh wait, had it. So I think that's a very normal reaction to the evolution of how women think about their worth moving forward, the progress we've made in that department, that there was a pause on your part.

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I do. Yeah. You know, I think that there's, whether it's Housewives, what you did, or politics, people become a caricature of who they really are. That's the truth. And so there's this caricature, Lisa Rinna, there's a caricature of Barack Obama, there's a caricature of Kamala Harris. And then you have all the people that love that caricature and all the people that hate that

caricature. And none of it is really like authentic. Yeah, I know. And it's frustrating. That's what's really frustrating, I think, because that's what everybody does nowadays. I mean, if you look at your TikTok or your Instagram, like it's an edited version of us. It's not, it's not completely authentic. This is something that we talk about here on the podcast quite a bit. And I want to get your take on it. Had it or hit it, Val renewals. Hate it? No. Had it? Never. renewals. Hate it? No.

Had it? Never. Okay, we made a list a couple of episodes ago and the list is the signs that you know somebody's fucking around and they want everybody to prevent everybody from finding out. The top of the list was vow renewal. You know the marriage is in trouble. Five years they're divorced. I've always said that. I've always said we will never do a vow renewal because if you do, your marriage is over. Period. Exactly. So we had vow renewal and then communicating with each other

online. It would be like you and Harry, he posts something, instead of putting your heart, you're like, oh my God, baby, you look so hot. And he's like no I can't wait to see you later have you not seen these couples that full-blown performative in a thread? I have not. Lisa, no. It's really great reading it's so fucked up you really want to read it we'll text you some of these there's a couple. Would you please? That we have on our watch list that we watch that exclusively does this mind you they're sitting on the sofa next to each other, yet they're communicating in an Instagram feed or a Facebook feed so that for an audience.

So this is number two, that your relationship is in major, major precarious position. Yes, I would have to agree. And if that ever happens, if anyone ever sees Harry and myself do that, please take me out back and shoot me instantly. Like right away. Yeah. What was our number three? Tattoos. Yeah, like couple tattoos. Yeah. So you're right in line with us that all of these things are performative bullshit. Performative bullshit. And I literally worked with women

for eight years that literally it I mean, no one's together anymore over there. Harry and I are like the last couple standing. So I watched it all play out in eight years what you're talking about. Yeah, it was gonna happen. You saw it coming. Yeah, of course. Oh, and Housewives is like prime for Val renewals. Yeah. And so we were on a reality show. You were? Yeah, on Bravo. Two years, had evolution media the whole night. It was called Sweet Home Oklahoma. No, I didn't know. That's how you worked for Alex Baskin too. Alex Baskin, yeah. And so my husband and I divorced quite some time ago because he's had problems with prescription pill addiction. We got back to get, he's sober now, everything's great.

We got back. Oh, great. We got back together, we have two boys together but neither of us is like super religious or anything. So we didn't feel the need to like go re-marry, but I call him husband, he calls me wife, et cetera. So when the production team was in Oklahoma, I saw on this board ideas that they had pitched

and one of them said, Jennifer and Josh vow renewal. And I just like, I pulled the show runner over and I was like, that is never going to fucking happen ever, ever. I'm not doing it. And if I did it, I wouldn't do it on TV because that wouldn't be about Josh and me. I'm not fucking doing that. We know some of the... and they were real cool about it.

They're like, okay, that's fine. We don't want you to do anything that you would normally do. But yeah, okay. Had it or hit it, trad wives. I think it's the dumbest thing ever and I've had it. So stupid. And I really do think, I mean, not to like take it too far, but I do think it sets women back.

Back, I agree. Sitting around saying, oh, make your husband happy, make him a hot meal. I mean, fuck off. You know, when you talk about when people use the word traditional, they're just disguising their prejudices by saying- That's right. You're right. You're right.

It's just, they're trying to use a PC word, but whenever I hear a guy say, oh, I'm traditional, then we know he's sexist. And what comes up in my head is Handmaid's Tale. Exactly. Which we're rapidly heading back to. Yes, we are. Had it or hit it, Elon Musk? Well, I've had it with that bullshit. Had it. It's all bullshit.

You know, it's total bullshit. And what's scary about it, though, is he's probably going to be the first person to be a trillionaire. Think about that. It's insane. A trillionaire. It is insane, Lisa. And so I've had this whole like thought process about all of this. And here's kind of like my evolution on it. I've always been left, voted Democrat, because I'm not a fucking crazy person.

All right. That's why I've done that. And when Bernie ran against Hillary, I bought into the Democratic establishment like, no, we got to have Hillary, blah, blah, blah. And I like Hillary. I think she was smart, highly qualified, all of the stuff. Highly, highly qualified. And sharp as a tack.

But as I look back on a lot of the shit that he was saying back then, Bernie. He was right about the oligarchy forming and the consolidation of wealth at the top and that we are, the wealth disparity is getting the middle classes shrinking and that's not going to be sustainable for our country and they use, you know, religion. We live in Oklahoma, we live in the Bible Belt. We have a total abortion ban here, Lisa. She has a daughter. I have two sons. You have two daughters. It's just insane. When I think about the days of all of us watching days of our lives without smartphones, we didn't have to worry about this kind of stuff. And now here we are to where if her daughter, something happens, medical or whatever reason,

it's only her daughter's business, she has to travel to another state. And then they're talking about criminalizing that. They're going to. My guess is there will be a total abortion ban in the next couple months. Yeah. I mean, they've said it.

So they are going to do everything that they said they would do. I agree. I think he's going to, and I they said they would do. I agree. I think he's going to. And I feel like right now more than ever, it is a very important time for women to not pre surrender. And if you think about the inauguration, look at who had balls. Michelle Obama said, fuck that.

I'm not doing that. And Karen Pence, Mike Pence's wife, mother? Mother had more balls than all these men? Nancy Pelosi? I agree. And why the fuck was Mike Pence there? Are you kidding me? Because he's a pussy. That's why. I mean, fucking pussy. I am sorry. But that really surprised me. And but yet it didn't. Exactly. That's the thing. But you're right. Look at these women that said, fuck you. The women stood up. And so I think it's a really important time to remind all of our listeners and all of your fans, which we know that you have a huge gay following and a lot of younger people.

And we do too. It's important to let these people know we're not going to go the ways of Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos. We're not going to sell out like that. We have conviction. We are not. And we're going to stand with you and we're not going to pre-surrender to this fascist fucking regime and we are going to stand strong. And I think it's important that all of these people, all of these gay kids that live in these horrible red MAGA hellscapes need to know that the Lisa Rinnes and the gems and the pumps of the world, we're not going to shut the fuck up. It's not happening.

It's not happening and we will never go kiss that fucking ring ever. Ever. There's not a bank account big enough that would get me to that Roach Motel Mar-a-Lago to kiss his teeny tiny miniature little hand. I'm sorry, but listen, I'm so disgusted just in the last day of seeing who has turned. Just if you open up your Instagram, it's fucking disgusting. I will always be there for my gays and for my trans family. I mean, that somebody has to stand up for these people.

That's right. Women, women are have to do. And women. Yeah. I mean, come on. If like, why? Why aren't we revolting in the streets? Because people are fucking scared.

Because he's going to come after you, he's gonna tie you up in the courts. Like, who knows what? But people are scared and we have to let them know that that's how we've always had and kept our freedom. You have to fight. We have to fight now. And we do still have the First Amendment.

And as a group, we still have agency over exercising that. That's right. And the most dangerous thing at the formation of dictatorships or fascist regimes is the pre-surrender. And you see that happen. That's right. Oh. Could you imagine that you ascended all the way to be a billionaire only to be beholden

to a man that can't even blend his goddamn makeup. Can you imagine how humiliating that would be Lisa? It is so fucking embarrassing. Those guys are like fucking little nerdy wimps who were always, you know, no woman would ever give them the time of day. And all of a sudden this fucking orange Cheeto fucking whatever, like we could go on and on. They go and sit and kiss the ring. How fucking embarrassing is that? How humiliating is that? But that's-

Emasculating. It's- And they talk about being alpha males ad nauseum. And I'm like, there's nothing more emasculating than what you did. And saying you're an alpha male and saying that you're tough and cool means you're probably not and you're probably gay. You know what I mean? You're probably fucking gay and you're just a homophobic.

Oh, I'm going to get so much trouble. Jeffrey, my publicist is probably like, oh my God, fucking Jesus. I said, if you're going to put me on podcasts, like get ready because, you know, I stopped doing podcasts when I was on the show on Housewives because I got myself into so much trouble. It just wasn't worth it. So I haven't done podcasts since 2017. Lisa, here's the thing. Number one, in Trump's America, if that motherfucker can

commit felonies and grab him by the pussy and all that shit, but we're going to be scared sitting on here standing up for marginalized people and standing up for our country and that's wrong, I don't want to be right. You know, I don't either. I'm with you. I will never ever kiss that ring. No. I know that ring. I've worked with that. Those people I've been in the same room with all of them. They're all fake and they're all atheists. Yeah. I said it.

Lisa, I cannot tell you how much I love you. I love the authenticity. I do too. I love that you came on here and we want all of the people that are scared in this country right now to know that you're not alone and we're going to get through this and we're not going to shut the fuck up and we're not going to kiss the ring because Lisa Rinna's got our backs. That's right.

That's right. That's fucking right. Lisa, thank you so much for coming on. It's a pleasure. It was really fun. Thank you. Thanks Lisa. Bye.

Hopefully I'll see you again. I love it. Bye, Lisa. Love her. Here's the thing. Sometimes you meet people and you think, I really like this person. I think they're cool. I like they're outoken, all the things, and they under deliver, not Lisa Rinna. I feel like she's an over deliverer.

She over delivered. I think that we all have what I was talking about, that caricature idea of what a real housewives of whatever given city it is. And you think hysterical, materialistic, no depth, not a whole lot of intellect. And that's just what the American psyche thinks about these people. And then you get her on and we've had some of the other housewives on. She's smart. She has conviction. She has a spine. She stands up for something. She clearly has a fantastic marriage, is a good mother, and gives a shit. She fucking gives a shit. And she has the balls to get on this podcast

and say, fuck them, fuck the patriarchy. I think it's all bullshit. Fuck them all. And I love her for that. I love her. She's wonderful. All right, listen up, listener. We have new merch out.

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