I've Had It - Camels, Cults and Candace

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready, one, two, three. Patriots, Gay, Treats, they triots, Black Treats, Brown Treats, and the Magocultus can do what? Fuku! All right, Pumps, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with is when you are at a self-service kiosk and someone from the growing concern comes up to you and tries to upsell you on what you're buying. And this continues to happen to me. Number one spot is at my car wash. I go into the self-service and the guy runs over and tries to upsell me on a membership.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Then it happened again at the fucking cleaners. I'm like, I'm just checking out. I'm getting my clothes. I'm checking out. And they come over and want me to buy a big, like a package every month of how many shirts I'm going to have cleaned. And I'm just like, Why does going through self-service not signal you don't want to interact with the business? It's ridiculous. I've had it. Yeah, it's just all the forced capitalism. As you know for decades, that's been one of my grievances.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Like the ruse where a woman will invite you over to her house, like, oh, I'm having a girl's night. And then it's some makeup presentation, some fucking pyramid racket that they're dragging your ass into. It's the same thing now. Like you're going to self-checkout and somebody's going to run over. And here's the thing. Like these people probably are incentivized and or have a quota to do this. And I feel bad for the workers. Same.
Starting point is 00:01:45 And then these companies have figured out if you can get people to buy a membership, then we have a sustained monthly income. So that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to sell you this monthly minimum that you get charged as their business model. So they know that they have a predictable amount of, of money, but it's just bullshit. It's the late stage capitalism is just so fucked. It's so unenjoyable because you're hustled at every minute. And then when you find out like all the algorithms, everything, they're mining all your information, all of your choices so they can
Starting point is 00:02:18 target you with shit you want to buy. Like it's yes, it's relentless, relentless. You're so right. Sadly, they know what I want to buy too. Mm-hmm. All right. So let me tell you what I've had it with. I have had it when I'm traveling with the packing part. Every time I get my suitcase out and I have to start packing, and I'm not a procrastinator by nature, but when I pack, I'm a complete procrastinator. I overcomplicate it. I project certain things or instances where I might need a particular item that never manifest.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And so I'm a pretty good packer, but I would say a 20% overpack. And then when I get to my destination and I unpack my suitcase, because when I immediately arrive at a hotel, I'm an unpacker, I immediately start getting disgusted with myself for the choices that I've made, the extra items that I threw in that were unnecessary, that were unneeded, that I'm going to have to try to squeeze back into the suitcase to get back home. And just I love unpacking. I hate packing. I hate all of the scenarios that run through my head. about packing. I can't stand it. Yeah, no, I'm the same. I'm like, oh, well, I might need a pair of jeans or I might want to work out. And it's like, you know you're never going to do that. But you're in and everywhere I go,
Starting point is 00:03:44 I act like there are no stores available to buy anything. Like that you are limited to what you have in your suitcase. It drives me crazy. I do the same thing. But I will say, I've been on a gazillion trips with you. I feel like you're an excellent packer. I could be better. we all could be better i could be better i'm a really good packer but there's just there's just always these last minute throw-ins that are ridiculous uh impulsive you'll never wear yeah and it's like some crazy scenario i've made up in my head that well maybe i'm after i'm out that day then i come back to the room and i want to change tops i never do that in real life never my husband does that shit all the time he is like midday costume change galore i am not that person i never
Starting point is 00:04:31 ever do it. So, but then I pack as though I'm all of a sudden going to be something different than the person that I've been for my entire life. And I just, I hate packing. I hate it. I hate the stuff that goes through my head. All right. Welcome to I had it. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. This is America's top DEI podcast. We have a producer named Kylie, who's going to share some information with us. Okay, we've got, um, an email from a listener that I received. And they write Dear Jennifer and Pumps, I'm not even going to mention the astounding oversight of men's Hawaiian shirts without pockets. I've had it with megachurches turning public roads into their personal valet service. These MAGA outposts hire private security to stop traffic on public streets
Starting point is 00:05:19 so their congregation can pour out of the parking lot uninterrupted, not police, not a city detail, just a skinny, pimply guy in a safety vest deciding the rest of us, can wait while a parade of MAGA SUVs escapes the sanctuary. Nothing says Christian values like blocking the public so you can beat the Methodist to Cracker Barrel. Slap across on the building and suddenly traffic laws become suggestions. I've had it from a taxpayer stuck watching the rapture of the suburbs. And this is real. I've experienced this.
Starting point is 00:05:56 People know what streets to avoid when Sunday gets out around the megachurches. I've experienced this too. So when I lived in Oklahoma City where I'd play pickleball with my girlfriends every Sunday, in order for me to get back home, I had to drive by a Life Church satellite church. And listener, Life Church is this hideous, atrocious snake oil salesman grifting, lying organization that has hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. Their number one goal is to expand, aka rip-off congregants. And they have these idiots. standing outside with these vests on. Number one, they're like waving at people like, hey, we're friendly.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Come to our church, which I think that's creepy. I think like you shouldn't have to, the whole proselyizing of mega churches, the whole prosperity gospel of it, the whole we're going to expand, we're going to build more churches, more churches, that thousands of people are so fucking stupid. They don't realize what a racket it is. Number one, I've had it with that. Number two, to the twerps standing out in the parking lot, trying to act like their cops directing traffic and also waving people in.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I've completely had it with this. And then there becomes like this single file line to turn into the parking lot. Yes. And if I didn't play well at pickleball that day, like got my ass beat by the lesbians, which happens a lot when you play lesbians because just anecdotally, I think lesbians are better athletes than straight women. but that's neither here nor there. But when I'm driving down and I got my ass beat and I see Live Church, which number one, unattractive church, horrible, horrible, horrible architecture. I mean, an embarrassment.
Starting point is 00:07:39 The one thing the Catholics, which is, you know, Catholics have all their problems, but at least they have good architecture. Beautiful. At least it's a pretty building. Live Church is the most hideous, gross looking church. The pastor, you should just go take a look at this guy. I mean, if you guys think Pumps and I have Botox, take a gander at Craig Groschelle and the fucking freeze face, grease face Botox of this grifter. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And so this is what's so crazy about this church. So he is one guy and he preaches on at one church. And then all of the other church locations, you guys, is a screen of him preaching at the other church. It's fucking crazy. The whole mega church racket thing is such a crazy thing. And that's why you can go to our store and purchase our T-shirts that say boycott mega churches because I could go on and on and on about this forever. But the fact that this guy, this Botox kink does a video from one church.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And then he has like 20 churches around. And the laziness to not hire another preacher and the narcissism that he's like, I'm so fucking great. Let's just put screens in all the other churches and just play me. How culting is that shit and how arrogant and narcissistic is that shit? And the fact that people sit there and watch a video screen and then tied to this motherfucker is more than I can take. And also he's huge MAGA.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Surprise, surprise. I was going to say, is it a surprise? I don't think so. But what about the arrogance and the narcissism of that? I hadn't thought about that, but like I'm so great. Nobody else can do it. So I have to be on the screen because I look. Good. At least Catholic Church. Each church has their own priest. Right. Yeah. No, that's not like the Pope being telecast to all the, all the churches. I mean, the level of narcissism in that is just, it's, it's like absurd to me.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Okay, I've got some news stories. This is some great news coming out of United Airlines. United Airlines can now remove passengers who play video or audio out loud without headphones. It says United's Rule 21 allows them to refuse or remove passengers for safety reasons. This now includes anyone who plays audio or video without headphones. And other changes it includes is United is trying to stop passengers from booking multiple tickets to lower their total fare. And other banned behavior includes being disruptive or violent, being barefoot or not properly clothed, and causing strong odors with disability exceptions. Okay, I think all these changes are long, long overdue, especially the bare feet. But, okay, so everybody's been on the odd Southwest flight that the flight attendant sings or tells jokes and it's just miserable.
Starting point is 00:10:37 On the last flight I was on, not the flight attendant that was over the intercom, but the flight attendant walking down the rows was going, fasten your seatbelts, raise up your tray table, like singing the instructions. and I was just like, what in the literal fuck is happening? What airline was this? American. It wasn't Southwest. No, it was American Airlines had a singing flight attendant. On Friday and not.
Starting point is 00:11:03 That shit, that shit, mega church enrages me. Like, nothing enrages me as much as megachurches, but over chirpy flight attendants putting on a performance, that shit enrages me. I'm like, I did not come to the theater, bitch. No. I do not need a slapstick comedy routine. And I like, I love flight attendants, love. I think it's a cool job.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I think that they have to heard cats. Anyway, go ahead. That would just enrage me. No, I was enraged. And this was after my Uber driver from the hotel would not shut the fuck up. I had my earphones in. I faked two phone calls. I acted like I was on the phone twice.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And it was just like I knew everything about her. Yack, yak, yak, yak, yak, yak. Then I get on the plane and she starts singing to me about my tray table and my seat being in the upright position. And I thought, I am going to lose my fucking mind. Then I thought, am I the problem? Then I reviewed it and I was like, no, I'm not the problem. In this particular case, I am not the asshole. No, no, that's maddening.
Starting point is 00:12:04 You're on an airplane. I appreciate that she's in a good mood. Right. But I think there's something slightly psychotic about being that happy at work. There's a little red flag in that to me. There's like, okay, I can see like I've been a great day and I'm at work today. But like the singing and singing put a sock in it. Put a fucking sock in it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Flying is miserable for people. I mean this. I really like flight attendants. I always try to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm a great passenger. I do the rules. I don't even recline my seat because I don't want to cause any problems on the plane. I want to be an invisible person.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And I want the flight attendant to go, you know what? She was a great traveler. She was a great fucking traveler. She was pleasant to be around. If somebody started singing at me, I think I could go from being a great traveler to a raging CUNT really quickly. Now, I wouldn't be mean to her, but I think that I would just probably have a lot of bitchy looks on my face.
Starting point is 00:13:08 But here's something I'm going to say about that policy that I 100% agree with is the body odor. I have been in airports before and I have smelled people. that and I have a iron stomach. I do not, I'm not a queasy person at all. I don't get grossed out easily at all. And the smell of this body odor was so rank that I had a gag reflex. And I didn't know the body could create that type of scent. How bad it was.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I've smelled BEO. I've smelled B.O. me before. I've smelled it on friends before. Right. I've smelled it passing people. I've been at the gym and smelled some B.O. This was something I did not know the human body could possibly produce. Have you ever smelled it that intensely, you guys? Yeah, I have. I've been at an airport and I was, it was really like even like I kept giving distance because we're going in the same direction and I couldn't get enough distance from it. And I just think it's because it kind of, it kind of, permeates over a long period of time. Do you think that's maga of us to think they need to wear
Starting point is 00:14:26 deodorant or do you think it's a universal thing? Like if you, I think it has to be universal. I think it has to be universal. And I think that everybody that gets on a morning flight, it should be required that everybody brush their teeth and their tongue because I notice smelly people on earlier flights more than I do afternoon flights as a general rule. Kylie, as the millennial lesbian, which might be a little bit more sensitive and PC than the Gen X host of the podcast. What are your thoughts on rank-ass fucking decades-old B-O in a bird, a capsule that flies in the air? If fucking the bird is in the sky, there's no ventilation at all. What are your thoughts on a person traveling through the United States and deodorant? I think the entire world needs to be.
Starting point is 00:15:20 getting the cancer that that deodorant gives you. It's just the price we pay to get through life together in a small bird especially. I'm okay with that. Yeah. I just, I think that that's something that we just, it needs to be put on the internet. It needs to be introduced into AI models. It needs to be summoned by travel agents and by airlines. If you fly on our plane, if I owned an airline,
Starting point is 00:15:50 I would say number one, flight attendants. Be kind. Be jovial. Do not fucking sing. Do not tell jokes. Do not put a sock in that. And number two, customers, if you have not applied deodorant, do not get on my bird, period. Assume me, do what you want to do.
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Starting point is 00:20:20 What did the camels need Botox for? So it said they were judge them on their lips and on their appearance. Oh, like they're filling up their lips to make them bigger and all that up. That is some American dance mom shit right there. No shit. That's just some full blown, like that is some psych. Remember that case where the Texas mom, cheerleader mom wanted to kill the rival of her cheerleader dog? of her cheerleader daughter, that's what's going on with these camels in a hon.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Well, and here's the deal. Like, Botox for a camel, the camel doesn't know why you're getting it. Like when I go into Botox and get, you know, dare I say, 40, 50 shots, I know what I'm getting. I go in for it. So these camels, they don't know. Well, that's mean to the camels. I don't like it. Okay. What's next? Okay. We have haven't talked about this yet, but have you guys seen what Candace Owens has been up to? She's doing... Her documentary?
Starting point is 00:21:21 She's doing this series called Bride of Charlie, which I think is a play Bride of Chuckie, like the horror film. Bride of Frankenstein. Right. And she's done... She was only going to do two or three episodes, but people were so mad at her. She said, fuck it. I'm going to make this a series.
Starting point is 00:21:40 She's on like episode seven right now. She's still going. I watched one of them. And I've never watched a full Candace Owens in my life. What was it like? I haven't either. What was it like watching a full Candice Owens? Is it intoxicating?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Kind of. And I don't know why. She's fucking she's fucking nuts. But like I sat there for an hour and four minutes. So like I get why people watch in this series. I looked this morning. has like 15 million views overall so far. So whatever she's doing,
Starting point is 00:22:22 I can't decide if she's like, I used to think she was smart and doing the craziness on purpose. But after watching this, I think she's gone. I think she's in it. I think she believes all of it. So pretty much she starts the episode,
Starting point is 00:22:37 the series, diving into like Erica's family from the 1800s. Like she made this family tree, okay? And she's accusing, here's what I wrote down. I took notes. Okay. It starts out with a 45-minute look into Erica's great, great, great-great-grandparents down
Starting point is 00:22:59 her entire family tree. Literally, she's dredging up arrests in the 1800s for like illegal gambling from her great-great-great-grandmother. And she's using all this to say Erica is coming from a line of crooks. Criminal genes? Yes, criminal genes. she then goes into finding all of like her yearbook photos. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:23 That's her. That's Erica Kirk's yearbook photos. There are people. There are people accusing her of being like she used to be a little boy because she looked like this. Is that a mold cut? Yeah. What I would have referred to in my day when I had that hair cut, it was the Dorothy Hamill, who for the younger listener was an American figure skater that had that cut.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I had that cut. You had that cut? I did. Did they literally put a bowl on your head? No, they just went. My mother would have never allowed me to have a cut like that. She would have found that to be rather unfeminine, my boomer mother. And according to Candace, these photos are when she went to this Jewish school in Arizona that, I guess, does not exist anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And the Jewish school is connected to time travel. and Erica Yeah, there's a big time travel thing throughout all of this And I also wrote down There's an MK Ultra mind control theory That's connected to Erica And Erica doesn't have, this is quote, Erica doesn't have any memories
Starting point is 00:24:37 Except what's been downloaded to her that day And that's why she lies about her past Wait, let me process this So she, Erica is a computer that has memories downloaded inside of her by the Jews. Yeah, and it goes back to Freud, um, MK Ultra. What's MK Ultra? MK Ultra is like this old, it's a conspiracy theory on the FBI that they have this thing that can control people's minds. I also have a little clip, um, that I'll play for you guys on this.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Are you a hybrid, Erica? Answer yes or no. I don't understand why they don't understand why none of this is normal. Why are we having to explain to Turning Point USA, why all this is off? And why does it feel like she intentionally just edits a little bit after feedback? Like they're just downloading an algorithm, you know? Like people are, say, you shouldn't be wearing sparkly pants. So then she's like, okay, download the new algorithm says wear black and then she's wearing black.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And then they're like, I don't think her tears are real. So someone's like, do not use tissue, drop tear on cheek. And then she does it and she lets the tears flow. There's just like little updates that are being made each time because the, I don't know, there's just no sense of common humanity there, a common understanding of how humans should be behaving. And they're like trying to teach a hybrid what to do. So they're like, oh, okay, got caught. Remember on when you were cheering about the hat sales of the merch.
Starting point is 00:26:09 So this time mention how much you love your kids. Thank you for watching my kids. I look forward to learning your names. Okay, y'all are going to think I'm fucking crazy, but I 100% agree with her on that. 100% agree with her on that. The evangelical women that I have known in my life, and that is what Erica Kirk is. They are not free thinkers, and they take whatever the, whatever comes in front of them, and then they make adjustments.
Starting point is 00:26:39 There's no conviction. There's no core principle. It's, oh, this is what really happened there. Oh, I didn't realize it happened that way. Okay. And then they just move on. That is so familiar what she's explaining it. I don't know if this makes me a Candice Owens person.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Obviously, I'm not. She's, you know, she's got a lot of fucking problems. But her description of a kept white evangelical woman who crowdsources what to do from her pastor, from her parents, from her husband, from her friends groups, pumps you can speak to that that is spot on what these women are spot on kandis fucking nailed that she nailed it i mean other than they're not robots but they kind of are but like growing up my mother had a this is what your life looks like this is the script of your life and i ticked the boxes like i was supposed to i know you know and if she said no that's not it the only time i bucked
Starting point is 00:27:36 her is actually going to law school and not being a school teacher. So I mean like somebody else telling you what to do I completely identify with that and not having my own thoughts about what I wanted. I completely think that's true. And Erica, Kirk, Jennifer, you pointed this out from jump. Like when she was in different crowds, like she was full Tammy Fay Baker at the funeral service. And then she looked more normal when she was interviewing on CBS news. So she knows what looks going. with which thing. And I would say that's true too, because I grew up with Tammy Faye Baker being played in the house, but yet I wasn't allowed to do that. So I think Candace is 100% right.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I think she nailed it. I mean, just the women that I know, it's like they take feedback like that from their husbands or from a friend group. And it's like, oh, they said that I did this. So I'm going to make this adjustment where a fully realized person, with autonomy and agency, I don't give a fuck what you think. I still believe this. I'm still going to do this. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:47 I can't tell you how many friends that do not get Botox because their husband doesn't agree with it. Shut the fuck up. Like, that's happening all day, every day. Yeah, I think more than anything, I mean, is that when you sent your kids to that school and those people that,
Starting point is 00:29:10 were around. I think that the herd mind, every single woman is the exact same person. I would meet 10 people that were Pumpsus friends. My son's team would be playing her sense of team. And I would walk over. There was no differentiating individuality among any of them. It was all the exact same person. Maybe one had blonde hair, maybe one had brown hair. It was all the exact fucking same person. I mean, just there was no differentiating factors in personality, even the way they speak. Oh my gosh. Hi, Jennifer. It's really nice to see you. How's Roman? Like, why are we talking like we're toddlers? Like, what is this? We're grown women. Oh, I forget you're not. That shit drives me fucking crazy. I cannot fucking stand that kind of talk. It drives me fucking. Oh my God,
Starting point is 00:30:10 how's Josh? Dylan. It's like, why the fuck are you talking to me like that? What the fuck is wrong with you? That's what I'm going to say next time. What the fuck is wrong with you? Well, it's the talking about, 40 girl that you still have to get on me for doing. It's also the exact same way all of the, like Moses, Mike Grindr, Johnson Wives talks like that. It's all the same person. They produce the exact same woman over and over and over and over and over again. Like there's no differentiation between any of them. And so Erica Kirk, she has an army of Erica Kirk's that are just like that.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And Candace Owens is on the case. And I probably disagree with Candace Owens on 99%. of everything, but she's kind of spot on with that right there. I've witnessed it. I've been it. I've been that person, so I completely agree. But once you agree, Pumps, all of those crossings, Christian moms are the same exact person. For the most part, yes, I would say that's true. Yeah. I mean, it's just there's it's the, it's the rule, not the exception to be an outsider in that, I would say. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Jen, I had your same feelings with Candice. Like, I guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Can I kept agreeing with her? Yeah. But I kept being like, this is Candace Owens. You can't. Here's the deal. When I've watched stuff with Candace, I once, I've never watched a full one hour,
Starting point is 00:31:44 but I've watched like a 10 or 15 minute clip, there's something very, like you get sucked in by Canvas. She's got something. Well, I think she has a telegenic it factor. My favorite of all time is how she, she linked the Charlie Kirk assassination to Bridget Macron to her horrific, horrific transphobia of Bridget McCrone, that Bridget McCrone is trans. She linked the French legionnaires as somehow linked to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And how she did that and mastered, marveled, all of that together is a special kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I have a quick 45 seconds of her being a nut if we want to run it. Let's watch it. Let's let's. Actually, what I am is I am somebody who has left the cult of science. Dinosaurs, that seems pretty fake and gay. What on earth? You are like, okay, so they were just roaming the planet. Because what I have now realized is that science, what it is actually,
Starting point is 00:32:50 to think about it, is a pagan faith. But do you believe people landed on the moon? I don't know. Okay, there we go. I just want to know why we didn't go back. We did go back? Did we go back? To the moon?
Starting point is 00:33:03 We people on the moon? We went back like 10 more time. Are you, we, okay. Let me tell you, if you are not a conspiracy theorist by now, it's because you are not intelligent. Wow. Yeah. She's kooky, man.
Starting point is 00:33:21 She's kooky. I mean, even a broken clock hits the right time twice a day, is that the old saying? But she says some shit that I just, she didn't believe in science. It's Peg. I mean, like, what? Here's all you need to know. This woman is a homophobic, transphobic, um, black woman that thinks she's safe in the MAGA movement.
Starting point is 00:33:50 You know, I mean, this is, but I mean, at the end of the day, she's an entertainer. And the right wing media has incubated and primed the soil, primed the soil, primed. the psychological soil to be anti-science. Look at who is the head of HHS. So her saying that she's anti-science. Before Trump ever came down the escalator, I had some fucking morons I went to Westmore High School with that were like, I've been conducting my own scientific research. And I'll tell you what I think. I think the earth is 6,000 years old. Science can do what they want to do, but I got my own thing going. I'm like, okay, big guy. social media and all this shit is just enabled all this idiocy and then you know YouTube and algorithms
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Starting point is 00:39:38 I've got a few voice memos we could end the episode with if we want to. Let's do it. Okay. This first one is from Shannon. Hello, you magical Midwestern and then transplanted women. I'm a teacher from Kansas. I'm Shannon. Listen, I have had it, absolutely had it with the use of the word family in education. As in, we're a family.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Everybody's going to do this together. We're a family. Bitch, I have members of my family. I don't fucking talk to. Do I get to pull that at work? Do I get to say, oh, we're family and you straight up piss me off because you're too stupid to breathe, so I don't have to talk to you? No, I don't get to do that.
Starting point is 00:40:20 So stop saying I'm family and stop cornering me. and acting like somehow my extra time, my extra effort, my attention to your bullshit is required because it's what you do for family. That's just hot fucking garbage. These are just white man-shaped piles of dog shit most of the time who are using this phrase and I've fucking had it. I have long felt like family is one of the most of the most of the phrase. most abused and overused, hijack, co-opted words on the planet.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I've had it with that. I remember, Pimes, you'll remember this. When you enter into a business relationship with somebody and they go, you know, we're really not a business. We're more like a family. Turn around, pack your shit up and run for your fucking life. Nobody at work is a family. Work is not family.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Right. It's different. Mm-hmm. Here's the thing. I have really found it's interesting she uses it in that context because I agree with her. But I have found because of the faith and family and more family values, my tolerance for the word family is at an all time low. Like I'm immediately skeptical of anybody that throws around the family word in any context because of all the crazy hypocrisy over on the right. So just one personal story about this. This is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And I may have told you all this before. I don't know. But Josh and I were in Italy with our sons. And we hiked up to these Roman ruins. And the kids were pretty young at the time. You know, like maybe seven and 11. So we do this massive hike up like a cliff. And we get to the top and we're at these Roman ruins.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And somebody at the hotel tonight before it said, hey, if you go up to the Roman ruins, instead of taking the path you came up immediately upon leaving turn right and you can hike down through the woods and it's all shaded and it's kind of a shortcut and so we went up and the hike was you know the kids were like bitching like little kids do about the hike Josh has a backpack full of 95,000 camera equipment because you can't take one camera not Josh Welch why take one when you can take five right I'm you know single white and free except for my husband and my kids and I'm, you know, I'm in a good meet. I'm always in a great mid traveling and I'm always in like the most annoying mother. I'm like, okay guys, we're going on this hike. We're going to the ruins, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:43:04 So we go up, we take our pictures, do all the stuff. And immediately upon leaving, I'm like, okay, let's take this shortcut. So I turned down into the woods. And I'm just trucking because it's your down. I mean, it's really woody, but I'm trucking down. I think my youngest son is right behind me and we're trucking down. I think my oldest son was somewhere, you're, a little bit behind me, but not much.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Josh was like way, way, way, way back up the mountain. So we get down and then we're kind of sitting on this like pedestrian street because the place where we were was so old, the street was not wide enough for cars. It was just a pedestrian street. So we're just sitting there waiting on him. He comes barreling down about 10 minutes later, screaming at the top of his lungs. Where did you go? Jennifer, we're supposed to stay together as a family.
Starting point is 00:44:00 We, you guys, you just barrel down so fast. We should have stayed together on that mountain as a family. I can't believe you did that. We're a family. I immediately start busting, laughing. I'm like cracking up because although we are a family, the four of us, and we are a posse and we are a squad, We are not the family that screams,
Starting point is 00:44:25 we are a family, especially fucking Josh, especially that twat. You selectively choose because he had like acting like he was some national geographic photographer with all of these fucking cameras and camera lenses and he was unable to move, you know, stealthily through the woods like me and the boys were. and he comes down. He's got like leaves in his hair. He is madder than a hornet. And this was probably like 10, 12 years ago and still to this day, still to this day,
Starting point is 00:45:10 like if we get separated or we're at an airport and he's walking too fast or I'm walking too fast, we go, we're supposed to stay together as a family, as a family, we're supposed to stay together as a family when we hike down the mountain. I can't just see John. Well, could you imagine Josh saying that like we're some fucking Disney family? And we are a family listener, but we're not that cheesy, performative family. No. We're not that's not a normal thing for him.
Starting point is 00:45:44 That's out of character for him. Totally. So for him to come barreling down the mountain, demanding this to get familialing, familial togetherness on a hike, which you're always walking too fast and we should have stayed together as a family. Oh my God, my cheeks hurt. That's so good. You've held that story from me this, my entire life.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Oh, my God. It was, it was hilarious. You can call Josh and say, Jennifer just told me the story of y'all in Italy hiking down the mountain and that she hiked too fast and that you came down madder than a hornet because she didn't stay with you as a. family. Family. Like it's one thing if he would have said like,
Starting point is 00:46:33 Jennifer, why do you have to fucking walk so fast? My God, I'm carrying all this camera clip, I didn't have any water. But the framing of I abandoned the family or that somehow we weren't being familial because he can't fucking hike because he had a backpack full of 95 different cameras and lenses that he did not need for this adventure.
Starting point is 00:46:54 It was just the framing of it was just so manipulative and diabolical and hilarious. Okay, Carly, let's do one more. Okay, the last one is from Hannah. Hello to all the legends and queens over at I've had it. I had to call in for the very first time to share mine. I've had it with billionaire defenders. So they're usually men, no surprise there. They're usually broke.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Really no surprise there either. Why are you as a man idolizing Elon Musk? like Elon Musk from the Epstein files, one of the most cringe people on earth, that's who you're going to go to bat for in the Instagram comments. Like it really just baffles me how people will defend billionaires with their life while getting totally fleeced by them at every turn. The bootlicking is so absurd. I've had it.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Pops. First of all, I love her voice. It's very sexy and soft. And here's the thing. I will admit I am one of those people when I was not paying attention to Elon Musk, I assumed because he owned Tesla that he was smart and he was cared about the environment and all of those things before I took a closer look. And I did not realize the depravity of billionaires until this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Like the MAGA movement exposed Christians. This administration has exposed billionaires for, just being despicable and how why all these people that aren't billionaires defend them is beyond me i don't get it i want to get back to that you were uh sexually attracted to the caller's voice don't you think it was like a really good voice i don't know let's ask the lesbian Kylie did you did you find a great voice eyebrow right eyebrow raising it didn't no offense to Hannah but it didn't raised eyebrows to me, but I'm very excited that you particularly liked it. I've never heard you say that about anybody else's voice, pumps. Sexy. It was very soothing. I like that. It's sexy.
Starting point is 00:49:04 It was sexy. And Hannah, you do have a good phone sex partner. Yeah. What did you just say? Would you say? Like she would be somebody to have phone sex with if you were going to have phone sex. Interesting. I've never had phone sex. I don't know how. I'm not opposed to it. I just don't know how. Okay, well, maybe, maybe Kylie can connect you with Hannah and your lesbian journey can be complete once and for all. But problem is Hannah, we don't know if she is a straight treat. Right, right. Yeah. All right, listener, that is all we have.
Starting point is 00:49:44 We have our makeup show in Atlanta. You might check. There's two matinees because they want us do two shows. like as long as they're both matinees. This is to make up for the bomb cyclone redo. And I think it's April 4th. Is that right, Kylie, Kylie. Kylie is right, Jan.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Kaylee is my hair colorist. Kylie is the executive producer. And there might be a few scattered tickets in there. Is there, Kylie? I think there's a few you could still snag if you were quick. All right. And other than that, we'll see you next Tuesday and Thursday. Listen up, Patriots, Gatriates and Natriots.
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