I've Had It - Christian Nationalist Crybabies

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

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So are we supposed to start the podcast? Patriots, gay, triots, they triots, black triots, brown triots, and the people who marginalize them can fuck off! All right, listen up. We have another amazing guest today, and her name is Crystal Ball. She is the co-host of Breaking Points and the co-host of Kyle and friends, because her husband, Pumps just found out a few minutes ago. is Kyle of secular talk. Crystal Ball, who I thought parents were for sure hippies

that named her Crystal Ball that had crystals and wind socks and all sorts of stuff. Crystal Ball, welcome to I've had it. Thank you, ladies. It is an honor to be here. Very hard to follow in Joy Reed's footsteps, I have to say. She's pretty amazing. She's pretty great. Okay, Crystal, you and I met in, I was on your podcast and then we spent the day together at the U.S. Open. which was great it was so great have a love of tennis and uh we spent some time with torre your former friend not former friend your current friend what's like what's the what's the beat to right would be very upset to hear that yes no current friend former co-host back when we were at MS now or whatever the thing is called now and

joy obviously joy and i know each other from there as well so a few MSNBC refugees here yeah all right so crystal what have you had it with i have had it with ai slop who asked for this crap um it's already being used by a bunch of reactionary politicians people like trump of course and Andrew Cuomo the data centers that they're building out for this thing are already like sucking up all the water they're spiking everybody's electricity bills the grand plan apparently is to steal everybody's jobs and potentially end all of human civilization so i am not a fan i'm sorry i'm scared of it. I don't and I'm not able to distinguish sometimes like is this AI is this real I have to ask our executive producer because I really don't know and I get sucked in a lot I'm not embarrassed

to admit it because it's hard it's really everybody does no everybody does look I mean the thing that I actually find the hardest to distinguish right now is I love like anybody else a good cute animal video and they will mix in the real ones with the AI ones and oftentimes I can't tell the difference. So you have people taken in by, you know, that, you have people taken in by a bunch of the political stuff already. And I think it's sort of intentional to destabilize reality so that these tech oligarchs can control what we think and what we know about the reality of the world. Don't you feel like I feel somewhat conned and scammed? If I see a, for example, There were these videos of these French bulldogs AI doing these dives, like really dynamic, like Olympic style dives.

And those were really fun because you knew they weren't real. It was obvious that a French bulldog with one inch long legs could not do a triple pike, whatever it is. But then I see something like, oh my God, these puppies are so cute. And then my son will tell me, Mom, that's AI. And I feel so like scammed. I feel like a part of me, like I don't want to love. something fake. And then I just read this article, you guys, that there is, I don't know if it's Amazon or where it is. They're cranking out 3,000 weekly AI podcasts. Have you heard about this?

Oh, my God. I did not hear about that. I know that there's more AI news content on the web now than there is real content. So we're already living in this world. You're already having, you know, many fewer jobs for kids coming out of college. So the job displacement is here as well. And if you listen to the guys who are designing this stuff, they will tell you their goal is to eliminate all human labor. So while Trump and the right winger and all of MAGA are telling us, oh, the problem is the immigrants, they're taking your jobs. The reality is they're pumping up these tech oligarchs who literally want to replace everyone and announce that publicly as their goal. Let's just stay with that for a beat. So basically the Elon Musk's, the Jeff Bezos, the Peter

Teals, they want their robots, their AI, which they tend to own most of, to take over all of these jobs. Yeah. And they effectively bought this presidency. You know, that's, I think, really what Elon's hundreds of millions of dollars are. He's the one that picks J.D. Vance to be vice president. You remember at the inauguration? They were all surrounding Trump.

They've gotten all of their deregulation. Right now, Republicans are trying to make it so that states cannot regulate. at all like this is at the core of what his presidency actually is is selling out to these tech oligarchs who effectively want to get rid of democracy and have themselves in control of everything and their big bet for that is AI I mean they're spending expecting to spend trillions of dollars on the data center buildout our entire economy is a bet on this crap and so the AI slop is just like the visible manifestation of where this is all headed crazy I didn't realize until recently how much power from the power grid these AI centers took

and how much water. Like environmentally alone, it's a huge concern just with all the resources that they're taking from other people. But I guess if they're going to replace all the people, they don't give a shit. Yeah. No, they don't care. It's actually anti, like you guys talk a lot about the religious right and conservative Christians, whatever.

Like, it's actually anti-creation is what Naomi Klein says about. it because you're sucking up all of the resources that humanity needs in order to create this sort of shadow world based on all of our ideas and ultimately to fundamentally supplant and replace humanity. That's the plan. And it sounds insane when you say it, but that's literally how they explain what the plan is. I mean, the good side, and I don't know if you guys feel this. I feel like in general, the Trump presidency is extremely weakened right now. Yes. Huge backlash against him in the elections. You see even some of the Republicans like Marjorie Taylor Green starting to revolt. But an undercurrent of these election results was

backlash against these data centers and the way they've spiked electricity bills. In Georgia, those statewide races that shifted like 30 points towards Democrats, that was about electric bills and how they are expensive there. In Virginia, it's been a huge issue as well. So at least there's some sort of public awareness and pushback that's starting to grow. So I think there's a through line between the oligarchs that you talk about and the Christian nationalist. like the Moses Mike Grindr Johnson's, the Heritage Foundation's. Obviously, these oligarchs, with the exception of Peter Till, who has this weird obsession with the Antichrist and the Rapture. But we'll leave that there. But in general, they're not super religious people like the Heritage Foundation, you know, white Christian nationalists are. But one of your grievances we emailed before is men being mad at us for not wanting to vote away our own rights. And I think the through line from the Heritage Foundation to the oligarchs to try. Trump is misogyny. That's the one thing they all have in common.

And you hear all the time, every time I turn on the news, open my phone, rise in anti-Semitism, rise in anti-Semitism. I'm like, okay, can we also talk about the rise of misogyny and sexism? Even the New York Times is participating in it. Well, how is the, how is the Sharia law going in New York, ladies? I'm not going to tell you. So, first of all, I don't know if you guys saw after those. elected results, all of these freaks, a bunch of, like, right-wing evangelical types. They saw that young women voted 80% for Democrats, including, you know, 80% for Zora and Mom

Donnie. And they were like, we have to make it. So these women can't vote anymore. Like, no, where did we go wrong? What did we do? How can we win them back? Maybe, you know, maybe we shouldn't be trying to take all their rights or like hate them for existing. Maybe we should rethink some of, no, it was we need to make sure that these women cannot possibly vote again. And I was actually at my son's soccer tryout last night. And I was thinking about you guys, because I heard this guy talking about how New York women had just voted in Sharia law. And 80% of them supported this. And like, first of all, this is insane. Second of all, if you really believe that, like, what would it say about the Republican Party that the choice

was Sharia law or the Republican Party? I'll take the Sharia. Thank you. you. 80% like Sharia, hands down. No question. But great point. But you know, Crystal, the most, the party that I see that wants to institute a Sharia law type structure on women is MAGA super majorities in red states. In our state, I think it's ranked 50th for women to live, Oklahoma, dead last. And so it's amazing to me that I saw this whole like somebody put together like a hype reel of Fox News talking about the Republicans purging all these Democratic voters. And they sit there, these women who have careers, particularly Laura Ingram, who has a career. She's unmarried. She has children, et cetera. And she sits there and tells women, your path to happiness

is to be a homemaker and stay at home and quit, you know, chasing your career. So the stupidity that they treat us with, that they think we're so stupid as that, oh, Laura Ingram can have a job, but we can't. It's so insane. Well, have you heard them talking about this concept of suicidal empathy or toxic empathy? Yes. This idea that like, oh, the fact that we, oh, I don't know, care about immigrants or care about Palestinian children being murdered with our tax dollars in Gaza, that this empathy is

somehow bad and toxic. And they apply that to, you know, to look at women voting for Democrats and like, oh, it's because of their suicidal empathy. It's because of their toxic empathy. And like, first of all, having empathy, that seems like a pretty basic, my understanding of what a Christian value is. Right. Right. That's number one. Number two, like, this is also self-preservation And when you're trying to take our way around, when you're literally out there, like, I don't understand why these women won't vote for us. Let's take away their right to vote. Seems like it's also self-preservation to maybe vote against the Republicans at this point. I think that what I have found the most exposed part of MAGA is growing up in a hyper evangelical family. And now everything

that they told you in Sunday school, be good to the poor, all of the things. when I have asked straight up, do you not have empathy for these people? No, we don't have empathy. And I think it sucked the empathy from people. And now it's toxic. It's stunning. It is stunning that somebody can say, I follow Jesus Christ. What would Jesus do? But I want to punish poor people. I want to punish brown people. It is, it is stunning to me. But it's not new. No, it's just so. exposed now. Yeah. It's so exposed. It is so exposed. You guys remember right after Trump was inaugurated, they did that like whatever prayer service at the National Cathedral. And they had a woman here there who was the minister. And she gave a sermon where she included some comments about having empathy effectively for the least of these. I don't remember the specific language, but it was about the immigrant. And it was about transgender people. And the looks on their faces, including J.D. Vance, who was like this big Catholic, you know, and how disgusted they were

and how the right was horrified that this minister had asked them to have empathy and care and compassion for some of the groups that had been directly targeted by MAGA. And obviously, in this administration, have been directly under attack by MAGA. I thought it was one of the more revealing moments about the ideology at the core of MAGA and what this has all become. The fucking Pope is coming out against the United States government and the Trump administration. He's American. And I mean, I am not giving any credit to Catholics, but I'm just saying like, that's how fucking bad it is. Listener, the hot book of the summer.

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The Christian nationalist movement, you know, when you track it back, it's rooted in KKK racism and it continues. And I have always known being an atheist, raised in the Bible Belt, that these people were cruel, they demeaned the poor, they demeaned the sick, they felt they were entitled to things that other people, their neighbors or people that look different from them, weren't entitled to. When Trump won, my mother, I mean, just absolute unapologetic atheist, she said, finally, somebody is going to she's from Dallas, she's Jennifer, finally, somebody is going to expose these damn evangelicals for the hypocrites, I always knew they were, which was Trump.

So he exposed it. But we knew back when Reagan was president, they were all full of shit. They were racist. They wanted money. And their faith was something that they hid behind so that they could justify all of their entitlement. And now that he's exposed them, they just kind of sunbathe in their hypocrisy and flex it. And I think that's the part where I'm just like, oh, now y'all just own being hypocrites. Yes. There's this, some girlfriends of mine that still live in Oklahoma City sent me these text, screenshots of an Instagram story. So there's this mega church based in Oklahoma City called Life Church. And its sole purpose is to expand and make more churches, more churches, more churches. And that, you know, the mega church pastor wears the, you know, he has the walking microphone. He's got the dunk tape.

Britain Spears, Mike. The light shows. Stylus. A stylist. Just obnoxious us all get out. Huge magazine. guy, right? And so while all of this stuff is going on, you have kids that are getting taken from their parents or parents can't take from their kids with people in masks. You have the president fighting to keep SNAP benefits from poor people. You have Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, fighting to make sure that poor people don't get Medicaid. So what they're doing at Life Church, which now I think they're in like 11 states, it's just a hideous moral, of a church. They, on Instagram, are saying, we just have our one billionth Bible app episode download. And it shows this huge arena with all these Christians in there with the light show

and the rock band. And I just thought that is exactly what I view these evangelical Christians as. Like, what a moment right now that you could be speaking out for all of these marginalized nice people, but instead you're in an overpriced auditorium with horrible architecture, because at least the Catholics had the decency to have nice architecture, right? And these foe, you know, these ridiculous rock bands and y'all are celebrating a Bible download app and you're doing absolutely no good and you're performatively posting that on Instagram so that you don't have to think about how fucked up your sect of Christianity is that you own openly celebrate and thumb your nose at every teaching that your alleged Lord and personal

savior is supposed to prompt you to do it. The hypocrisy in the religious right in the Bible belt, it makes me insane. It just, you're right though. You're right, though, about the way that many people are being exposed right now by this Trump administration, including, I mean, I think the Epstein Files stuff. Right. Just is incredible. revealing, right, and exposes the way that they wanted to use this when they thought it was politically convenient. And they ignored the fact that Donald Trump was close friends with Jeffrey Epstein for a literal decade. They ignored the fact that he acted guilty as hell whenever he got to ask about Galen or whenever he got asked about releasing the Epstein files, suddenly he was

not so sure that disclosure was the right move, right? Ignored all of that because they thought in their partisan brains this would just be about Democrats. And so now, here we are, and some of the people like Cash Patel who made a career in a living off of talking about releasing the Epstein files, is there in the position of power? And suddenly it's nothing to see here. Case closed. He killed himself. Don't worry about it. And all of them acting so incredibly guilty. You know, it's the one issue where I've actually seen the MAGA base take on serious water and dissent from Donald Trump. I mean, he is underwater on his handling of this one issue with his own voters. And I've genuinely never seen that before because it typically is so cultish. But

because they were so hardline about, you know, I mean, the reality is this was this global pedophile ring of elites because they were so hardline about releasing those. And they saw Donald Trump in their mind as some hero who was going to expose all the traitors and have this sort of like moral cleansing. I think it's been genuinely difficult for them to deal with and have had to reckon somewhat with the way that this man is just a con artist who lied with you and is himself so directly implicated in all of this. It's stunning. It's really, really stunning that so many people, when I've lived in this religious culture, and I want to get your take on it too, pumps. And they claim that they love children and family so much are just so morally

out to lunch on this Jeffrey Epstein issue. It is just a level of willful blindness and willful denial in this cancer that is maggot, that they have no problem throwing anybody under the bus for this power. And for some of the electorate, the power has become so, such a caricature of what power is. For some people in the electorate, and it sounds so crazy. But genuinely, I think for some people, it's just to bully liberals. They like it. It's become their whole identity is owning the libs and bullying liberals. They don't believe anything other than demeaning liberals. Even, you know, people of the same color. It's become so toxic. And the, when I think about the power that the tech oligarchs have and that we started this with them doing AI. And I think about,

and I'm sure you get this too, you get these death threats and online trolls. And we have these nameless, faceless people and or bots that get into your phone and docks you and all of these things. And typically, you would go to government for a remedy for that. This means regulation. Our kids are not safe. We are not safe. We have these no name, no face people threatening sexual sexual violence, threatening assault against us. And that's something that government would help remedy. And so I, Fox News covered me for a couple days in a row. They were real mad about something, whatever. So I get all these. That's happened a few times, Jennifer. To be fair. So they start giving I'm a little jealous. So they start giving me all, I start getting all these death threats.

And I thought, well, who am I supposed to call? Cash Patel. Like, are they going to care? But this is hilarious, you guys. Within the threats, people are. reporting me at cash patel you need to check her oh my god at cash patel it's like one one post is like you know I hope you get Charlie Kirk and then below that hey at cash Patel you need to look into her and it's the same person and I'm like you just threw a crime how do we what is going on here like what the fuck I mean and even if you had committed some kind of a crime it's not like anyone would have any confidence that cash pettel would be the person to deal with any actual criminality because he's also the most like

pathetically incompetent embarrassing person on the planet i have zero face is like our fascism is so embarrassing and incompetent as well you know it's so embarrassing meal team six rolling into cities like our fascist remember when they did their military parade and i was thinking like oh my god this is going to be this like fascist display of power and force and then it's some rickety 60-year-old tank squeaking down the street. I was horrible. I was furious because I was like, are you kidding me? All the shit that we've had to listen to and all the elections we've had to lose because we had to spend money on the military.

And this is what's rolling out. Are you fucking kidding me right now? We, I mean, at least they should have hired like Hollywood to come out and do it. At least we have that. No, it was bad. But, okay, let's gossip for a second. Cash Patel and the girlfriend. Right. Okay. I've read, and I haven't really deep dived into it as much as I need to because there's so, like the blowjob and there's so many other things.

Who's Bubba? Drawing my attention. I wasn't sure what blowjob you were. I got it now. I got it. The one that Kings gave to Bubba. So, but Cash Patel's girlfriend, you know, he got it. He used a PJ to go watch her sing country and Western somewhere. And then he tweeted that she was a great American and she had done more, she's like 26. She's done. more for America than, you know, millions of Americans that I know, that somehow she's this incredible patriot. And then I've also seen that somehow she's like a super Israel like spy that's honey potted him. I don't know if that's true or not. But now I've also read that he, she has FBI security detail on her. And this is just the girlfriend, not the wife. Crystal, what do you know about this girlfriend of Cash Patel? I mean, that's pretty much. You pretty much summarized it. I think people with the honeypot thing are just looking at him and looking at her and going. That's what I was like, there's no way that this is a couple in real life.

There's just no way. I think that's that's where that. And then I do think she was like a Prager You influencer. She's definitely super pro Israel. So that's that's where that, you know, that just asking questions came from. But yeah, I mean, he's spending the same man who went after the previous FBI director for his use of the private jet. And that's fine. Like I agree with that. I don't think taxpayer dollars should be used for frivolous purposes. But this same man, now that he holds the office, is using the private jet to fly to her stuff and fly her back home and use FBI taxpayer dollars to run her security detail, et cetera. And then it's just insulting for him to come out and be like, she's a country music sensation and she's the greatest patron.

She's done more for America than anyone ever could. Again, embarrassing. Nothing. It's embarrassing, frankly. And you know, my show, breaking points, I have on Massager. He's ideologically more on the right, you know, certainly than I am, but he's more right wing. So our audience can be somewhat diverse. And hating Cash Patel and thinking that he is the most incompetent man on the planet is like a unifying moment for anyone who would come to watch our show. Oh, Ted Cruz would be as well. I think Ben Shapiro, there's a number of characters that would fall into that category for sure. Okay. Ben Shapiro. Let's talk about that.

I thought, okay, after Charlie Kirk died, he was like, I'm going to take over at turning point. And I was like, never happened, Larry. There's no way that is going to happen. His voice. And then I just can't get over the time that he said on with cameras recording him that he was so confused about Cardi B's song. Oh, God. Yes. That he had spoken to his wife about it, who was a physician.

because he couldn't understand why she would sing about this. And his wife told him that it was some sort of medical condition. And then I realized, oh, that's what's wrong with these people. They don't know how to fuck. They never had orgasm. He's never been around. The problem. Wet-ass pussy.

You know, I mean, that was that was an iconic moment. If we're being honest. Incredible. It was so serious. Totally, completely serious. My wife says that. Like, oh, my God. But, you know, I mean, Shapiro, it's interesting right now.

You guys following all the like Fuentes fallout and all of that sort of stuff. And like Nick Fuentes, the genuine neo-Nazi, genuinely hates Jews, talks about like the threat of organized juries, says he likes Hitler, was buddy, buddy with Kanye. I mean, all this stuff, like horrific racist, overtly racist human being. Right. Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin and these other characters think that they have the moral high ground. in order to, you know, criticize Nick Fuentes, which again, this is a disgusting human being who literally likes Hitler. But you guys were good with all of the other racism, all of the racism. And Dinesh D'Souza, too, you were good with all of the racism until it came for your particular identity group you affiliate with.

And then when it was about Jewish people in Israel, then Ben Shapiro speaks up with Dinesh D'Souza when it's suddenly when, you know, the Indian hate is just out of control, disgusting. right, what's coming out of this movement. Now he draws the line. And it's like, no, the logical endpoint of Christian nationalism is that nobody, anybody who isn't a white Christian is going to be in the out group. Like that is what your movement is about. Stephen Miller is in the White House doing a white nationalist policy. And they call him the prime minister because he's so powerful. And so where did you think that this was going to go? You have embraced these principles and this is the logical endpoint, which is exactly why you have this genuine neo-Nazi who is now one of the most popular figures on the right.

It's utterly insane. So they call Stephen Miller the prime minister? Yeah, internally. They call him the prime minister. Okay, but let's talk about the psychology of him. He's Jewish, but he seems kind of Nazi like. I'm just going to say it. I mean, he seems like he's a student of that movement.

And that's just my opinion. It's, and then you have his family members who have said Jewish people that are just appalled by his actions. And then, of course, we all saw his wife's stage five meltdown on Pierce Morgan. And then all, you know, they're just having a rational conversation. And then she's like, you're saying this because I'm Jewish and blah, blah. And I always feel like Crystal that like the far right Jewish people. people. They say, this is the only marginalized group that matters. This is the one that matters. And like you were just saying, they go to seek refuge in the political party that at their

parades, boat parades and insurrection, carried Nazi flags around. So they go there for safety and then they're mystified why people in their tent are anti-Semitic. It's just wild. And you know, it's going to, the same thing's going to happen to these demon queens. That's what I column, Scott Bessent, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman. They're all going to find out. Tim Cook, they're going to find out like the white Christian Nationalists of Heritage Foundation that have been playing this long before Stephen Miller came around and long before Donald Trump came around are going to throw you and your Nelly ass under the bus so fast it's going to make your head spin. You are not going to be the magic homosexual that is going to survive in this regime.

Yeah. Well, and on Stephen Miller, I mean, yes, I think he is a Jewish Nazi. Like, I think his ideology is identical. You just swap out like Muslims or Hispanic people for the Jews. And you have a very similar ideology that has been given incredible power within this White House. And he's, I mean, he is running not just the immigration policy. He's also very involved in foreign policy. They're doing this like whites only refugee policy. The DHS Twitter account is just out and out Nazi posting all day long. And people talk about this divide in the Republican Party. Effectively, the divide is between whether to hate the Jews or the Muslims for. Like, that's the intellectual divide, whether to, you know, be horrified by the old Holocaust or the new Holocaust that, you know, we committed in Gaza. I mean, that's the nature of the divide. I saw Laura Lumer, who describes herself as a proud Islamophobe, who is the most openly racist person, wants Sauron to be deported, all that stuff, right? And she's out here saying, we have a problem with Nazis in the party. It's like, girl, you have the same idea.

You made, like, she's Jewish. So she may not hate the Jews. She may, like, carve out that one group. Otherwise, your whole ideology is the exact same. So it's, you know, incredible to watch them sort of grappling with the fruits of the very ideology that they have supported and promoted this whole time. I was just going to say, and it goes to, you know, the Marjorie Taylor Green, the big, you know, revelation that she's had. changed, which we call bullshit on. But now she's like, you know, people are threatening to kill me. I'm like, you unleashed that mob years ago when you started empowering somebody to talk the

rhetoric that Donald Trump did. And now you're a victim of it. So it's a reoccurring theme within this party is we're going to be the meanest, most hateful, wish the worst possible things on people, but we're exempt. And to me, there's an entitlement to evangelical Christianity that that tracks for me. Like, I, I see that because that's how I was taught. I'm better. I'm different. I'm special. So it doesn't super surprising. So you think some of these marginalized groups like Laura Lumer would think she's the special Jewish person. Danesh Sizuze would think he's the special. Scott Bessens, the special gay. Yeah. I think entitlement could be the through line on all of that. Okay. You know, I feel like one of the core sort of conservative traits is not giving a shit about anything until it directly

affects you. Totally. How many times have you heard like, oh, now that I had this health issue or my child had this health issue, I see the problem with the health care system or now that my community is affected. I see the racism and I see that this is a major problem. But it's like it has to impact them directly. I mean, talk about like empathy. I mean, it's just like complete devoid of an ability to project out, okay, what could this ideology mean for me? Or what is it doing to these other people? and what does that mean for their lives? It's just it has to like impact them directly before they really get what the issue is.

Okay, something else you said you had had it with are minorities in ice. I mean, that connects to this, right? Yeah. Not only do you have no moral compass? And how many times have you seen these guys, they've got their masks on so you can't see their whole face. But what you can see, it's like a brown skin tone

and a dude who looks like his last name is probably like Lopez or Hernandez or something. it's like what is what is wrong with you not only do you not have morality apparently you don't have self-preservation i mean this is these people hate you they hate you they hate your family they hate your kids they hate your future grandkids they don't think you belong here you're not a quote unquote heritage american you're never going to belong and you're the one implementing the violent force against your own community i just can't round my head around that no it's it's insane and I feel the exact same thing that you feel when you see the ICE agents. When I see Pam Bondi or I see

Caroline Levitt or I see these women that genderwash this administration where Sean Duffy, Secretary of Transportation, says on camera, women shouldn't want to have careers to try to be happy. They should want to have husbands. Oh, my God, your mug is so cute. Oh, I want to see. Husbands and kids. Oh, that's so cute. For those of you, they're listening, it's a cute. little teddy bear mug. And then when I see Pam Bondi and Caroline Levitt and Christy Nome, and they are riding the coattails of the suffragettes and all of these women that fought so hard for them to have the job that they have, to be in front of the cameras that they are, to sit behind the desk that they're sitting on, and they are tearing it all down with zero

self-awareness as to what generations before them fought. how unworthy these women are of these positions because they're not taking the time or care and they're playing this role that a lot of authoritarian use where they use trot women out so they make these apolitical women feel like, oh, it's fine. They're not anti-women because these women are for it. Oh, and they have a Christian cross. The Lord, she's, the Lord likes her. She loves the Lord.

So we're going to go ahead and go along with this. She must be a good person. Yeah. I mean, you have to take seriously this repeal the 19th Amendment. stuff, not that because it would be like easy to effectuate, but I mean, all these things that start out as sort of like memes or jokes have become reality with Trump 2.0. I mean, they're really trying to go for it. They're trying to make it so that the only people that count and can vote and have any sort of influence are like this narrow swath of people that to them count

as whole human beings. So I think you have to take it extremely seriously. And they're putting on pieces about how women ruined the workplace and were to blame for absolutely everything that's ever happened. It's like, you know, what about this idea of personal responsibility also? I thought you guys were big on that. Right. That thing in the New York Times was a real moment for me. Right. When I, we covered on our other podcast, IHIPP news, we covered Pete Huggsess pastor. So the Secretary of Defense, personal good friend and personal pastor on 60 Minutes called for doing away with the 19th Amendment. That made me, you know, really pay attention because all All the crazy shit that Republicans were talking about doing 20 years ago in the state legislature in Oklahoma.

And when the national news cover it, they say, oh, these people are so crazy. MAG is doing it now right now in the federal government. So I listen to the fringes because I used to live in the fringes. And now the fringes are mainstream. So I listened to what they're saying. And when I saw that nobody at the New York Times thought, wait a minute, if we put the headline in it said, did Jews ruin the workplace? Do you think we could run that? Of course, they wouldn't fucking run it.

Nope. But the rise of misogyny and sexism, when you see mainstream media like the New York Times run an opinion piece that they didn't have to run, they shouldn't have even entertain. That especially with the rise of when women lose rights like they have in our state in Oklahoma, rape victims are having their babies, and it's the poorest women that suffer from this the most. And they fall prey to more violence and domestic violence and all sorts of things for these people that make these decisions at a desk in New York City to run an article like that in the New York Times and how damaging that is to women, compounding with these dipshit women in the Trump administration, I just really get frustrated with where we are and not hearing enough male voices. speak up about this right now. You hear a lot of male voices talking about the male loneliness epidemic. And, you know, and I'm not saying that's not real because it clearly is, but maybe

women are lonely too. We just don't bitch about it as much. And you just don't, you hear women being codependent. Okay, how can we help the boys? How can we help boys not be lonely? We want to solve problems. But I need to hear more men right now on the left, really speak up about the rise and misogyny about the way they speak up about the rise of anti-Semitism it needs to be on the same platform because all of these human rights are interconnected yeah and i mean think through what their actual position is so they're like okay you need to be at home like with your kids okay then if i'm doing that and i'm not working you certainly don't want to help out with like you're cutting food stamps and you're cutting Medicaid and making it so we can't survive i mean those are

gender issues as well because it's mostly single moms who are struggling, who are suffering when those sorts of programs are cut as well. So they want you to work and have personal responsibility and take care of yourself, but then they also want you at home with the kids. I mean, basically they want to use us as scapegoats because that's what their whole politics is. And the one group that they can never point the finger at is the billionaire class, who are the ones who are actually the ones rigging the system and making everybody's life miserable and sucking up all the water and jacking up our electric bills and trying to replace all the workers with robots.

That's the place where we actually need to point the finger because they're the ones that are truly causing all of the problems. They can't do that because they're in bed with them. So instead, it's a series of, okay, well, what other group can I scapegoat to try to deflect the blame from the place where it actually belongs? And so it's queer people, it's transgender people, it's immigrants, it's minorities, and it's women. Yeah.

You know, it's anyone that they can point the fade. The reason why you're miserable is because you're bitch, X, wife, or the reason why you're miserable is because these crazy cat ladies, these ladies in New York City voting for Sharia law, or whatever. It's got to be, you know, and that is central to their politics because they can't possibly look at what the actual problem is. So they have to constantly deflect to this group or that group in order to misplace and ascribe the blame.

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and there are a bunch of liberals and leftists who didn't want to be like you know woke skulls and they're like it's cool we don't even care and i was like guys we should care that this major american brand it's flirting with eugenicism in order for like to turn a profit like that's not okay and we should feel comfortable calling that out so now that she's sort of like exposed herself i feel like you know, that view has been completely vindicated because she knows what she's doing. She wants to appeal to these, like, right-wing, ethnocentric white nationalist, effectively. She thought this would be great for her career. Turns out they don't want to see an artsy movie about like a female boxer who's a lesbian,

like Christy, this movie she just put out that totally bombed at the box office. But no, I mean, I find her embarrassing and pathetic, honestly. Like, she wanted to lean into. She thought the vibe had shifted and this would be great for her career. and so I'm happy to see her fall flat on her face, frankly. Yeah, the whole thing grows me out. I agree. Women that, you know, she is fine latching on to a political party where the Secretary of Defense, personal pastor, took the time in an interview to say, yes, Pete and I are very tight. We're close friends and I want to do away with the 19th Amendment. And this is just at some point when you go seek refuge with the people that hate everybody and you're, one of the groups, minority groups that they hate at some point, those knives are going to be turned on you. Well, and here's the thing. Here's the thing. Beautiful girl, great body, giant

boobs. They love her for that. Second she turns 35 or 4G or whatever their expiration date is, they're done with her. That's it done with her. Like you've set yourself up to have this incredibly short shelf life. And they don't even care about you now. The only time they'll go see you is when you're doing these like, you know, explicitly sort of like sexual roles. If you want to do something with any character or death, they already have no use for you. But yeah, she declared, she registered as a Republican in Florida in this year. Like in the year 2025 to register as a Republican as a woman, that is a choice. That is a choice.

Yes. I don't buy this bullshit that she's like, oh, she's just not that smart and doesn't know what to bullshit. She knows exactly what she's doing. And I agree with you. The Republican view of women is that it is breeding years only and then, kicked out to the pasture. There is such an ageism, deeply embedded into their misogyny that is so embedded into Republican culture. But those things that we tell little girls, like these little girls grow up to be these beautiful women that are amazing and you fight for

marginalized rights, but it's amazing how much the cultural impact of the stuff that Trump is doing is going to have on generations. That's what worries me. Generations that it takes, it's going to take so much time so many years to peel out of all of this okay um had it or hit it zoran mom donnie oh hit it i mean not literally but he's i mean i think he's the future right i genuinely think i'm so excited about the possibility in the democratic party right now in the way that i have not been in a very long time since i was like hopeful about burning 2020 probably because you see all of these great candidates who are very similar to him who don't give a fight like they're not waiting in line they're disgusted with these old entrenched elites and i don't even mean literally old i just mean like out of touch out of date don't know how to fight don't stand for anything they're just done with it they've had it right and um you know whether there's graham plattna remain abjol aside i saw this great guy cameron paske who's running in new york's 12 congressional you've got a bunch of primary challengers jumping in and i think the democratic base. You guys are emblematic with this. It's just in a different place than they were before.

They're done. Playing by the rules. They're done with when you go low, we go high. They're like, no, we're going to grab the wheel. We want leaders who stand for something who aren't going to word salad, mealy mouth when they get asked a straightforward question, Cory Booker, who are actually going to get in there and fight. And so I think that is the direction of the party is going. It's part of why right now that and the election results are part of why I feel hopeful. Zoron's such a big part of that. Because his politics are so hopeful. And if they could succeed in New York City against all the odds and against its political dynasty, et cetera, I truly feel that anything is possible. That makes me feel

better. And the billionaires. I mean, they spent a shit ton of money. And you guys, oh, yes. The internet is so good because I saw like, I went to Zorn's victory party. I got home and I was still kind of excited and I had to wind down. So I was looking on Twitter. And like people were like sending tweets to the billionaires that threatened to move, all these hedge fund guys. And it was like, I expect that apartment to be on Zillow by 9 a.m. tomorrow morning. Just hilarious shit. And of course, they're not moving. And in the like 10 days after Zoron 1, luxury home sales surged in New York City. Because I think that Democrats have got to start messaging when government provides services for people that are managed well, people like it.

That's the purpose of government. And we have to start owning. It's not a handout. It's not people mooching or being parasites. The moochers and the parasites are the billionaires that had the luxury to throw $8, 10 million to feed some Islamophobic campaign. And then they go, oh, JK, we're good with you. We're not leaving anything. Yeah, we're good.

Let's work together, Bill Ackman. I'm looking forward to working. Why would he want to work with you? Why would he want to work with you? No, I mean, the fundamental promise of Zoran's campaign is this city's been run for the rich. Now it's going to be run for your average, everyday working class person. And that is a revolutionary idea in our politics right now. And it's one that the CNBC crowd and all the financial elites feel incredibly, incredibly threatened by bringing in Lina Khan as part of his transition team is a real shot across the bow as well.

So, no, I find it incredibly hopeful because ultimately, if we don't have a debt, Democratic Party that knows how to fight and knows how critically to confront capital, then even if we get rid of Trump and Kangles and Mike Johnson, all this cast of characters, we are still going to have to deal with the rise of fascism. Because if you don't have a party that's meeting people's material needs, you're always going to leave fertile soil for this politics of scapegoating, the immigrants, the women, the trans people, et cetera. So it's not just, I think this is the correct electoral approach.

I think it's the right moral approach. And I think it's the only way we actually fight fascism and win. And we can look back to our own past and our own history to see that that is the case. Right. Many people so desperate that they think any little tidbit you get. It's really depressing. But Crystal gives me hate. Okay.

Last one, Crystal. Had it or hit it, the United States of America. Okay. So any of you guys are going to ask me this. I will say that I hit it, but with some caveats. So I genuinely, I genuinely love and am like emotionally inspired by the core concept of us being this, you know, out of many one nation of immigrants of all kinds of people from all kinds of places and built on these ideas and these foundational principles and having the freedom to speech and tell Trump that he's got cancels. I think that that is actually really beautiful and special and fairly unique project that we're engaged. in. We've never done it perfectly. It's taken on some major water. I'm very frustrated with my

own countrymen who voted this man into office not once but twice. But that bedrock foundational principle of what America is, I find really beautiful and inspiring. And I am not willing to let that go. So fuck all these people that want to make it some blood and soil, ethno state. I am not letting go of the vision on the Statue of Liberty of what America could be and should be. I agree. I really agree. I feel like there was a time period right after Trump won, and I know that this was universal for all of us that have a pulse and an ounce of empathy, that you felt like, God damn it, fuck this country. And it felt really hopeless. And that was the intended result. And then they started flooding the zone. But we're all still in this thing. And I think about

the way they're treating immigrants. And I think about what the Statue of Labor. says. And it sounds kind of juvenile to think about or maybe like Hollywood-esque to think about, but we're Americans. That's the way we think. We think in terms like this. We think in terms of heroes and doing right. Look at all of our, one of the greatest things we've done in this country is film. And look at what the films do. They always celebrate the heroes. We always commend the heroes and right now we're living in a time period where everybody is celebrating the dorkiest most demented illiterate incompetent villains they're not attractive losers so total could you imagine having to have sex with step no wonder his wife lost her mind on pierce morgan no it's

she's probably i mean it'd probably just take anything to just send her into orbit she has to get naked with him. Oh, horrifying. Yeah. Absolutely horrifying. But no, I mean, that's to go back to Zoron, like that was the other thing about his campaign is like that vision of America that we believe in and that millions of other Americans believe in. That's what he put on display was, you know, it's not this like scary evil place where people are getting, you know, murdered on the subway. It's this hopeful story about immigrants. It's always been in New York City a story of immigrants and all of these different communities and cultures coming together and pursuing their dreams. I used to live in New York, obviously, when I was on MSNBC.

And it made me so nostalgic for New York. It made me miss New York so much because that part of it to me is so incredibly inspiring and beautiful. And so to me, you talk about film, like he knew how to use video and multimedia in order to paint that vision of what he believes New York should be and could be and is. And so, you know, I think that that is. the most important counter example we've had for the republican narrative the maga narrative about what they want america to be which is incredibly exclusionary it's a place just for rich people

really and that if you aren't white and you're not christian if you're not quote unquote heritage america then we hate you and you don't belong crystal ball we love you i could talk to you for 500 hours i know you are um definitely a cougar like pumps and Well, Kyle is younger than me, so I do have that guy. Really? That's hot. Literally a cougar. I love that. You really are a cougar.

But we love you. I'm so happy to have you on. And I hope we continue to collab and continue to keep building a big ecosystem where we all support each other and fight for democracy and fight for these candidates like Zoron that remind us that we have to keep fighting for this country. So, Crystal, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, ladies. Thank you for what you do.

You both are so. important to, I think, that coalition that is coming together and right now is winning. So thank you. Thanks, Crystal. Times tell him. We will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. I'll tell you what I've had it with. I'm at it with that. Listen up, Patriots, Gaytriots, and Natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. It's Monday through Friday. every day, 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America always served with a side of petty grievances. We are on all the available platforms, Apple, Spotify, Google, whatever you get your podcasts

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