I've Had It - Creeps for Christ
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So are we supposed to start the podcast?
Ready, one, two, three.
Patriots, gay, triots, they triots, black triots, and brown triots,
and all of the people that sit around and support this flea bag,
cancels, make taco tits, can do what pumps?
Fuku!
Pumps, what have you had it with?
Okay, what I've had it with is when people park directly behind
my driveway. If you park behind my driveway, you have over a 40% chance that I'm going to ram
in to the side of your car. I've done it three times to my neighbor. And I'm like, obviously,
I'm at fault, but it's like you assumed the risk. You parked your car back there. It happened
to me this morning. I'm pulling out. My car like throws me into whiplash. It breaks so hard
because there's a fucking car sitting right where I pull out of my driveway.
The whole street's empty.
Every single piece of street is available to this person.
It makes me so fucking mad.
I just want to go like slam their tires with a crowbar or something.
I guess the windshield with the crowbar, a needle with the tire.
Who, whose car is it?
I have no idea.
I have no idea who it is.
So let me get this straight.
like your driveway, it's parked in the road where it's impeding your ability.
Yes.
Why don't you call a tow truck?
Well, I don't know.
I didn't even think about that.
I didn't think about it.
Toe truck.
I know it used to be my neighbors.
After three times having to get the car fixed, they figured out, just put it in your driveway.
But I don't know who this person is.
My guess is that somebody that's at my house spending the night with Luke, if I'm guessing.
But I don't know.
But a tow truck, that's a great idea.
That's kind of a junior.
So you think it's your son Luke's friend impeding the driveway.
It's a guest at your home.
I think, but I'm not sure because they were upstairs and I never saw it.
That kind of changes things.
Then that burden goes on.
Yeah, then that burden goes on Luke to be a good caretaker of his driveway.
Well, it's just, it's time for Luke to go back to school.
He's been home like five weeks.
It's time for him to go back and be a college student again.
I'm just, everybody's gone.
You just get so.
Have you had it with Luke?
Had it with Luke.
And I love it.
But it's like, it's time to go home.
I know.
That is so funny.
Okay.
Let me tell you what I've had it with.
Okay.
Lay it on me.
You go to a restaurant.
It's pretty crowded, but you can see there's two or three tables available.
You don't have a reservation, but this isn't the type of restaurant that you really would make a reservation.
So you get up to the hostess stand.
And, you know, in my opinion, hostess stands are over complicated.
They've added a lot of people, a lot of steps that don't need to be there.
But that's another episode entirely.
The hostess says we have a three to four minute wait or maybe a five to ten minute wait.
can I get your phone number?
So I'm like, yeah, here's my phone number.
And then they said, okay, we'll text you when your table's ready.
Great.
So get the table a few minutes later, eat.
Everything's great.
Everything was perfect.
The weight was only five to ten minutes.
Got a great table, got a booth.
Of course, I'm not a nut that's set on the same side of the booth with my husband.
We set opposite sides because we're not freaks.
and leave about five days later, the restaurant violates the, we'll text you when we get your table,
when your table's ready, and they start texting me.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're texting like, wouldn't it be great to come back for lunch and try our lunch special
yak, yeah, blah, blah.
And then I get another text, a couple of days later.
And this is just these unsolicited emails that have now morphed into unsolicited text, that have morphed into spam calls where people get your information and force the capitalism upon you.
I'm all for regulated capitalism that keeps people safe.
And I'm talking about regulated people, not the Trump corporate dim style, like a real safe.
market for us to be in. I like good shit. I get it. What I don't like is forced capitalism
where it's forced upon you. If I want to go eat at a restaurant, I want that to be my decision.
Right. I want to decide to do it. If I want to go shopping for a piece of furniture or
an item of clothing, I don't want your business to email me about it. I want it to be my decision.
The constant terrorism through our devices after they've mined our
our information to schlep their shit on us, I've completely had it.
And then like now I'm at the point with my cell phone where I hate this number,
because this phone number is associated with a bunch of fuckery.
There's a bunch of people that have this phone number that I wish didn't have it.
There's a bunch of people, businesses that have this phone number that harassed me.
The same goes from my email address.
So I think I'm going to go off the grid.
I think I'm going to go get a new phone number and I'm going to get a new email address.
And I'm only going to give both of these things to like five people.
Here's the thing.
I will just make this argument.
Yours is one of the few phone numbers that I have memorized because I knew you before
you just put the name in.
So I would really be sad if you got a new number because I actually know it.
Number two, that might be a new thing because I've given my phone number before and I haven't
gotten follow up text.
So this is just the next wave of harassment by these people.
But I'll tell you what, I would never go back to that restaurant again.
because they violated what the custom was.
You wanna text me when the table's ready, great.
That doesn't mean I want you to remind me five days later
to come eat there.
I really like their salads.
I really, really like their salads.
They're really, really good.
Really pisses me off that they engage in making both great salads,
efficient hostess stand.
Yeah.
Waitress was 10 out of 10.
And then as a side hustle, they're into text terrorism.
And I just, I just, I,
I'm just beside myself.
Like, don't text me about your restaurant when I'm not in the restaurant.
Like, I'm trying to get less text messages.
I'm trying to get this device to go off less.
I want less interactions on this device.
I gave you my cell phone number because I thought, well, that makes sense.
I don't have to carry on one of those vibrators around as big circling things in the restaurant
that goes off here.
This will go, oh, that's great.
Text me when my table's ready.
I'm into it.
It's a bait and switch.
It was a ruse for their later onslaught of texting terrorism.
Yeah.
And it was calculated, I bet.
I bet they knew going in, we're going to file this number away and we're going to get her again.
But I will say, I have noticed with like people that I perceive to be really cool,
mostly like millennial age, they always have two phones.
So that would be a sign of it.
going to be cool. You're going to be cool. I mean, I think that kind of makes you cool, like smoking
good and then I can do. But I think what I'm going to do just for spite moving forward,
I've already started doing this with retail stores. When you go up, they'll say, we need your email
address. I'm like, I don't want to give my email address. Well, then you won't have the receipt.
Like if you need to exchange it, I'm like, I'm not going to exchange it. I do not want. I just want
to purchase this item. I don't want any record of it that it was made. I just want to purchase it
anonymously. I want to anonymously purchase these leggings. That's all I want to do. That's all I
want to do is anonymously purchased. So I've been really like standing my ground on anonymous
purchasing. And I think the next time I'm at a hostess stand and they say, we need your phone
number. I'm going to say, I'm sorry, I don't get my phone number out. Right. And then the
post is going to be like, you know, it's not her problem. She's making minimum wage or he. And so I
don't want to be a bitch to them. But I'm going to say, I'm sorry, I just don't get my phone
number out and then they're going to you know hamster's going to start running what are we
supposed to do when your table's ready right gonna have to come find me yeah because I'm not giving
you my phone number because the last time I gave you my phone number and this is probably a conversation
I have with your manager not you you started texting me like we were friends about your lunch
specials and I don't want to participate in texting with robots I I can't do that I don't want
robots auto texting me a very unoriginal message that goes out to thousands of other suckers that
gave their phone number out right and i don't want i don't want to be a part of it i want no part
of this texting terrorism i kind of think that's a good rule like i don't want a part of any mass
texting i don't want a part of any mass emailing anything you're going to do in in mass leave me out
i want no part of it bulk mail i mean still get all that snail mail book mail put a
sock in it. Put a sock in it. I can't take it anymore. All right, welcome to I've had it. I am
Jennifer. I'm Angie, HBIC, B for Beaver. Kylie is here. Kylie, there she is. Hello.
There she is. What's been going on on the World Wide Web? I've got two incredible reviews for you.
This one is five stars and Kelse, X.
and Ash writes, thank God it's not just me. I've had it is the podcast equivalent of exhaling
after holding your breath for checks notes several decades. Jennifer and Pumps articulate the rage,
absurdity, and deep exhaustion of existing in the modern world with a precision that feels
almost illegal. Every episode makes me laugh, not aggressively, and think, oh, thank God, it's not
just me. What I love most is that they don't just complain, they validate. They know. They
name the nonsense, roast it lovingly or not, and somehow make you feel lighter afterward.
Their voices matter.
Their perspectives matter.
And honestly, they make the internet feel survivable.
Wow.
You know, that's crazy.
I mean, number one, thank you for that.
Very thoughtful, very well-written review.
But so, listener, I have to kind of let you in on, like, when you make a product,
like a podcast or this video podcast and you just and it's not you can't hold it
it's like in this cloud and it goes out on the internet and it just goes out there
a part of it doesn't feel super tangible and what makes it feel tangible are
reviews like that I was on the subway yesterday and there's like only one seat
and this guy sitting next to it and it's and there's only like three quarters of a
seat but I just left the gym I'm like you've got this sis you just burned
500 calories. You can slide right into that seat. Do it. So I slide right into the seat and I kind of
look over at the guy next to me because I know he's probably think, God damn it, why couldn't you have
just stood up? The reason I couldn't stand up is because I did a lot of squats, but that's neither
here nor there. And the guy turns and he looks at me. He goes, I love your podcast. And I go,
oh my gosh, thank you so much. I was afraid you were going to think I was a freak for squeezing into
this seat. He was like, I was so glad you did. And so when you hear that, it's so helpful because
God, some days it's really hard to get up and process what's happening in this country.
And I'm always in a bad mood on IHIP news because all this shit really pisses me off.
Like the human rights violations like really affect me.
I'm very empathetic about them.
And it's been a lifelong thing of mind to like stand up for the marginalized and that
they're accelerating the beating down of the marginalized and watching it happen.
It just puts me in a really bad mood.
So I told the guy in the subway, I was.
smiling because I was so happy that he let me squeeze in and he was a fan of the pod.
And I go, hey, by the way, I'm much nicer than my online caricature in person.
He goes, oh girl, we know that.
You've got to be mad about this shit.
You've got to be.
And I'm like, God, I just feel like when I'm filming all the time, I'm mad.
But like out in my life, I'm a really happy person.
But when I'm specifically talking about this Trump regime and the racism and the homophobia
and the indiscriminate killing of people and then the people, and then the people,
people kind of celebrating it.
Yeah.
It just makes me so fucking pissed off.
Yeah.
No, I completely agree.
And I like that.
He says it makes, I'm not the only one.
I think that's a huge advantage of the podcast is you find a community that you're like,
oh, I'm not the only one.
I don't feel so isolated being, you know, a blue dot in a red state or anything like that.
So I think the community part is my favorite part about the podcast.
Okay.
Okay, this one is five stars.
More good news.
It says, My Safe Place, and MJPJ writes,
when everyone around me tells me to calm down or asks,
why are you so upset about what is happening in this country?
I turn on you guys, and suddenly I'm surrounded by like-minded women
who know just how screwed up this all is.
Thank you for helping me realize that I'm not crazy.
So pretty much exactly what you were just saying, Jen.
That's the worst part right there, minimizers.
one of the under-talked-about forms of abuse are the people who, when you were feeling massive
emotions about injustice, minimize your concerns.
And being a progressive person in a red state, I would be like, I'm really worried about our,
you know, gay brothers and sisters.
I'm worried about the increase of this.
And there's just a minimizing, a dismissive form.
of it. And that's a real form of abuse that doesn't really get talked about when people minimize
your feelings that are very sincere about human suffering. And this is something I think in white
circles that happens a lot when you have a white person who is using their allieship for good.
And it rocks the boat of like, well, everything's good for all of us. Why are you so worked up
about this? And they minimize or they tell you, we just disagree.
politically, when everybody knows, it's a lot more than that.
And so I think it's a time when we see all of this mass abuse happening when you have people
in your lives that are really hurting and really feeling this, meet them at their pain.
Because it's difficult watching what this government is doing to people and the horror
and the terror that so many people feel.
A friend just sent me a copy of a text message.
There's an American-born person, brownish skin.
Grandparents were immigrants here from Latin American country a couple generations ago.
And the screenshot said, when people ring my doorbell, I don't answer my door.
I hide in the closet because I look brown and I don't know if it's ice or not.
That's heartbreaking.
So this shit is happening everywhere.
And when people meet your outrage at these injustices with minimization, their minimization of it
is an extension of the abuse.
It's more insidious.
That statement, silence is complicity.
That is so true.
And that is an area where white Americans really need to dig into because we excuse a lot from other
white people.
that excusing behaviors that no other sect of people could ever get away with is your answer
to the question, why does Donald Trump never get held accountable?
Because millions of little, a thousand little cuts happen all day, every day where we let our
white peers, friends, family members get away with racism, dehumanization, and it's a cultural problem.
It's a cultural problem and you cannot minimize people's feelings about it because that person's feelings are correct.
And the minimizers are never looked happily upon or reported robustly on in history books.
I agree.
There's a quote going around that I've seen a lot lately and it says, nice people made the best Nazis.
You read that.
It was a woman that lived and she said, my neighbors, they were the nicest ones.
They just wanted to stay happy.
They didn't want people to be upset and just keep their life going.
And the mean people made the best resistors.
And I just think that's the same thing.
Like you could be upset about something and you'll hear someone say like, you just need to not worry about that.
You need to try to find happiness and just move on with your life.
And I think it plays into that.
I think that is so true.
And this is a very important point that you may kind of.
because I feel when I'm around people that make space for this, like I physically feel it.
It's not a place in which I can flourish and I cannot stuff down these feelings inside
of me and make excuses for polite people for the sake of being polite.
But this is a real sin of white culture.
We oftentimes never call out our own.
it's created this atmosphere. And I think the words that we're looking for right now are
righteous indignation. You should never be able to grow if you are a person that is for
equal rights and for human rights. Your being would not grow in racist communities. Otherwise,
you're a fraud. And so we have to instill in people around us, in our
communities. Human rights are non-negotiable. We care about human beings more than we do people.
And I care about being impolite to stand up for the marginalized more than I do your feelings.
Fuck your feelings. That's how I feel about it. No, I was talking to a MAGA family member last week.
And I was like, I'm just really, you know, this upsets me. And of course, you know, it was the minimizing,
not really minimizing, just glossing ever. And I go, why aren't you?
upset? I would think you would be upset about this. And then, of course, there's just no answer.
Well, it's, you know, it's just not as big of a deal as you're saying, you know, that kind of thing.
But I think that's what my standard line is going to be. Why aren't you upset? Why are you not
upset about this? I know we've gone over it with the alligator, I've gotchaise. You weren't
upset about that. But why are you not upset about American citizens being murdered by their
government? A Christmas miracle has taken.
place. So we decided to go do a live show in Atlanta on January 31st and we were for sure like the ticket sales are
going to be lacklester. Nobody's going to become I'll be damned if it didn't sell out in like a couple of days.
So the organizer was like you should do another day and I'm like, it's a pretty big, pretty big ass.
Pretty big a half for two old broads like us. Right. So we added an additional day ticket sales.
We're getting about close to halfway February 1st, Center State.
in Atlanta, and it is also a matinee because we are going to normalize matinees. We are going to
normalize a reasonable start time. We're not going to start a show at 8 or 9 p.m. And you're going to
last bedtime. Wake up the next day feeling hungover, strung out. Why did I hang out with all of
these radical leftist, anti-fascists? We're not going to do that because we're pro-matine,
we're pro-democracy, we're anti-maga, and we're anti-fascists. Come see us. It's
It's going to be so fun. I love getting together at a live show with all of the people. It's such a community.
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Okay, I'm going to switch gears just a little bit and do some news stories.
A very specific millennial name has been declared as the new.
Karen. So people are trying to move away from Karen. According to TikTok, Reddit and the broader
internet, Jessica is now shorthand for a very specific type of person. They post long rants about
minor inconveniences on social media, are always deeply convinced they're in the right. Even when
they're not, they say things like, I'm not trying to be rude, but. I mean, it does kind of
sound like me, except for posting long rants. I was going to say, the long. I was going to say, the
Long rant.
No, minor verbal.
No, minor verbal.
I mean, honestly, you spot it, you got it.
I mean, I have a lot of grievances.
This podcast is nothing short of a very long rant.
Sometimes the listener gets Jennifer confused with Jessica and they'll call me Jessica.
Here's the thing, though.
I will go to the ends of the earth, not to be rude to people in that make men
minimum wage. I'm the type of person that will not recline my seat on an airplane out of respect
for the person behind me because I am so anti-entitlement. I oppose that so much and I know
what it feels like for me when somebody reclines the seat. And so I golden rule that.
And so the whole white woman trope of white women being super entitled to.
treated their pets better than they do minorities, thinking their little darling is the best
on the planet, not caring about anybody else's children, being shitty to service people,
always reclining their seat, you know, immediately.
That's a real thing.
And I know these people, you know, like it's a warranted, you see all of the Karen's gone
wild and all that stuff on TikTok.
I mean, it's a really real thing.
Yeah, no, the Karen's gone wild.
I'm not surprised the Karens of the World United to switch the name because they're just, I mean, and I'm a slight Karen, but I like to think I'm a Karon for good.
But when you see that shit on the internet, it kind of gives me like the icks, like makes me nauseous when I see how rude people are, people that are just trying.
Like you were talking about in your head, it like it's not the hostess's fault.
She took your number, but it's not her fault or his fault that they text you,
days later. They have nothing to do with it. Okay, I've got some listener voice memos today.
Oh, excellent. This first one is from Austin. Good morning. This is Austin, one of the Gatry.
It's just calling in to report a couple of new grievances in which I've had just this morning.
It is barely 7 a.m. So that tells you how my day is going. So I'm listening to I've had a podcast as I drive
to work, as I always do, because I have no hobbies. And as I get to, I was like, I'm going to treat myself to,
a cold brew this morning at Starbucks.
So I drive over there and I
get my little coffee and I
pay for it, whatever, I'm at the window. Mind you, I've had
a podcast, it's still playing. It's the new
episode from just this morning. And as
soon as he goes to hand me my beverage,
Jennifer is talking
about panties and dildo.
And this guy can hear it. He kind of smirks a little bit
too because he can hear it. And I'm like, good
Lord, what's what that's timing? It's terrible.
So that's my first part of this had it.
The second part is I ordered a
tall coffee, which as you might know, is
a very small cup of cold brew, not that much on a big one this morning.
And then I turn around and say, can I get a straw?
Actually, I would like to have straw because I want to kill turtles.
And he hands me the biggest straw in the United States of America.
It's longer than the Florida panhandle.
The fuck it's hanging on my cup.
It's more.
It's longer than twice the cup twice.
It's it.
I've had it with that.
Such a great point that I think about all the time, but I've never.
brilliantly articulated like this fine gait of ours is that was listening to me rant on
about panties and dildos, which I'm sure was a very important point that I was making considering
the subject matter. However, this is a real thing that happens all the time. I am a, uh, I am the
resistance to Stanley cups. I am the resistance to, um, uh, performative hydration. When people have
to be drinking liquids all the time. I think I have a very storied history on this podcast of saying,
this is not normal. Exercising and flexing about being hydrated is a mental problem that you
need to go address. There's a lot of things that you can be performative about, but being hydrated
should just be a bare minimum thing that people do as human beings. So I always order small
beverages intentionally so that I'm sending the message out to the world that I oppose all of
this performative hydration, right?
And then he's right, I have this little cup in this giant straw and the scale it's so
off because I think from the top of the lid to the top of the straw should be maybe about
three inches.
Yeah.
And so I think you should scale out the straws for each size of cup because it really kind
of ruins the experience when you have this little cup and then you have this straw that's
for like a big gulp, which in no other country does anybody can go into a store and buy that
size of beverage. That is exclusively an American thing. That does not exist in Europe. That
doesn't exist in Asian countries. That is an exclusively disgusting maximalist American thing,
these big gulp type things. And the straw scale, it always pisses me off. I'm so glad he brought
that up. That's a great thing to bitch about. Yeah, for sure. I always get the big cap, so I haven't
notice the straw. What I've noticed is when you get a big cup and they only have a little straw.
So there just needs to be straw scaling. But here's the thing on the, you're saying dildo and
panties. Every time you say panties, I don't know why, but there's something in me that
bursts out laughing every single time. Just the way you say panties, I can only imagine when
you're just like going through the drive-thru and somebody's saying panties and dildo,
don't you know the person that was serving him was like, what in the fuck is he listening to?
Yeah. Yeah, like that's a weird shit that guy's listening to. This guy's a weird out here.
Yeah. All right, Kylie, who's next? Okay, up next we've got Gia.
Hey, girlies. It's Gatria. Again, calling from New York. I have just had it with these MAGA,
not being able to grasp the concept that us, and when I say us, intellectual beings, not an occult, do not ride or die for these corrupt politicians in the way that they do.
And all we're hearing as the Epstein list comes out and we all know that Trump is on it, their excuses, well, what if Clinton's on the list?
okay then lock his ass up too
like they think that we're so ready to like go to bat for these politicians
like i don't care who is on it like lock them up
and they will just make any excuse to like ride or die for this absolute
citrus circus that wouldn't even spit in their direction quite frankly
I completely agree with her. It's if there are Democrats in the Epstein files that knew about,
covered up, participated in child sexual abuse, pedophilia, arrest them, like completely arrest
them. We are not the party of pedophile protectors. That's the Maga Christians.
The Maga Christians are the pedophile protectors. These are the people.
that hypersexualized children at a very young age,
when they start talking to them about their sex lives via purity culture,
before they even have hormones.
These people hypersexualized children.
And so when they hear about this with these teens,
these girls, the sexual abuse,
children's sex lives is ubiquitous in the white evangelical
Christian movement. It is the weirdest child sex cult on the planet. And if any Democrat participated in it,
charge him with crimes, expose it to the hilt. And here's another thing to Gia. I like we criticize
Democrats, like just Democrats that are nowhere near the Epstein files, like Chuckles and
Hakeem, like put up in opposition. Like this whole idea that you have to just believe.
blindly support the frontrunner in your party or blindly support every single member of your political party just shows that you are a part of a hive mind and a part of group thinking.
You have no individuality or critical thinking of your own.
But one thing that I think Democrats should really accelerate right here on is the weird, creepy,
because it's the evangelicals that are excusing this, Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, big Christian.
These people are fucking weird with their kids.
It is the weirdest shit I have ever seen in my life.
So it makes perfect sense to me as somebody who grew up in the Bible Belt, that these people excuse everything that Jeffrey Epstein does.
It doesn't shock me in the least bit because these people are really weird about kids and sex.
Well, it's almost like there is, and I, and I'm basing this off, having
grown up super evangelical when you see like a man and has been accused of raping a woman the immediate
thought is well what did she do what was she wearing well it doesn't fucking matter none of that
matters if somebody raped somebody it doesn't matter what they were wearing you know the length of
their skirt and all that and i just remember my grandparents were super into the pt
TL club, which you probably, I mean, it's Tammy Faye Baker, but they had like a timeshare at their
place where they were, you know, doing all kinds of crimes, corruption and all that. And so I saw
how they excused the behavior of Jim Baker that he lived two different lives. And you see it with
Catholic priests, like they excused the behavior of the priest saying it's isolated. And so it's almost
like growing up in that culture, you're conditioned that it has to be the fault of the victim
and or it's kind of expected and you just move on and you say, well, I've been forgiven.
And so that's fine.
Everything goes away without any accountability.
And so that's kind of where I see it coming from, just from my upbringing.
As an observer to the evangelicals in my life when I was raising kids, they're fucking weird with their kids.
Like they talk to them at a very young age about purity culture.
At a time where that should not be introduced, there's very weird sexual boundaries
with evangelicals and from my observational points that just kind of blew me across the room.
And coupled with, when you're starting to talk to a kid that hasn't had hormones yet,
about their future sex life and you're already pre-spending it is shameful.
and you're making it your business, you know, you're removing autonomy and privacy from a person's being.
It is a form of abuse.
And the evangelical movement, white evangelical megachurch movement and the acts of child abuse that occur are staggering, in my opinion.
They emotionally blackmail kids to believe that if they think about making,
out with somebody, that that's lust and that's from the devil and they're going to burn in hell.
That's just incredibly abusive manipulation to tell a child that is experiencing the flutters of hormones.
And the parents acting like a child's sex life is their business.
And there's just so much there that I think is so profoundly disturbing.
that creates generational problems.
You have this whole group of people
that are completely immune to this.
It happens in their churches,
it's happening in their government,
and they couldn't care less about it.
It is a place where these child sex crimes breed
and people cover up for them,
and people look the other way
because they've been sexualizing children
from a very, very young age.
Yeah, well, in terms of autonomy about sex,
I had zero.
It was always my mother's business, what was going on with me.
To the point where after I picked up my wedding dress and I lived with my now ex-husband
for like a year and a half, she never one time called there.
So she knew on every level.
She asked me if I was worthy of the white dress.
Like, I know I was grown at that point, but that's fucking weird.
It is weird, pumps.
It's weird.
It's really weird.
Ask my child. Healthy adults do not talk about their children's sex life with them. A healthy adult that is advocating for their child would explain to them about what happens when you make out with people and it's normal. You can get disease. You can get pregnant. And we'll talk to them about consent. Beyond that, anything beyond that is engaging in massive boundary violations, abuse and taking in.
And parents injecting themselves into their child's bodies and taking them over like that,
like they own them.
Like Moses Mike Grindr Johnson, marrying his daughter, you guys, listener, we covered this on IHIP news,
but they had a purity ceremony where he goes to this ball with his daughter who is not, doesn't
have hormones yet, where they perform a marriage where she marries her daddy.
and he keeps her virginity until he gives it to her husband.
So they've completely taken all of her autonomy.
And this is mimicked through these daddy-daughter balls that they have in the South.
And it is a very bizarre exploitation and manipulation and ownership of little girls.
And it's so important when you're raising kids to,
to teach them about their bodies.
And around two or three year old, their psychologists have noted that around two or three
years old, they're abundantly obvious of private parts and their privacy should be respected.
But in these evangelical cultures, there's none of that.
It's the weirdest shit you have ever seen in your life, the normalization of making your child's
bodies and their sexual journey, your business and something that you own and you marry and then
you give to somebody else is so fucking weird.
And so the facts to go on with Gia's call, it surprises me zero as an observer of evangelical
families and the lack of sexual boundaries with their children that this same group is
completely looking the other way to.
Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, and all the other pedophiles because it's not weird for them
for children to be sexualized because they start sexualizing them very early on and in a
projection to the future kind of way, which is so toxic and unhealthy and completely abusive
to that child's agency and autonomy. Well, and there's just so much shame heaped on,
especially little girls about sex. It's just,
just this whole thing is fucking gross and I can completely concur with what Jennifer said it and say
that I lived it. So I know what she's saying. I'm sorry, pumps. No, it's fine. You know,
I get, I mean, honestly, I mean, think about now you say you're asexual and you're this attractive,
but seriously, what? It did into it link. A hundred percent there is. You're an attractive woman
that should be, and at least having sex once a week and you've sworn it off for the rest of your life.
And your sexuality and your sex life has been somebody's business before you were even aware
that there was a hormone in your body.
And look at how that's played out.
It makes me sad for you.
Yeah.
I never thought about like that.
But seriously think about it.
But seriously think about it.
It was always somebody else's business your whole life that now you've sworn off sex
because it did never feel like yours.
Right.
I mean, yeah, that's sad.
It is sad.
I want you to get late.
Pardon? I want you to get laid, pumps. It's sad. It's really sad. I think that I think if after this part comes out, there will be tens of thousands of women that were raised in white evangelical circles that will say, oh my God, same thing. I don't enjoy sex. I did it and I didn't know what it was about. But think about the trauma. I think about you. You're just a little girl who probably want to color. You probably want to play. You remember how before we had phones you'd make.
like hopscotch on the sidewalk, would run around neighborhoods, you know, on our bikes.
And then you get home and somebody's talking to you about sex, which is this far off weird thing.
And your preacher is talking to you about a male preacher talking to little girls about their
virginity. That is some creepy ass fucking shit right there. These grown ass creepy preachers talking to a
little pumps about her future sex life. That is fucked up. I mean, it is so,
fucked up and these people do it with impunity. Yeah. Can attest. True. That makes me sad.
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Kylie?
Yes.
What about you?
You grew up in an evangelical megachurch world.
I grew up in a
purity ring.
I did have a purity ring.
But you wanted it.
Yeah, it was more of like
all my girlfriends had, um, whatever.
But I will say like my household
and the church I grew up in,
I grew up in a you don't talk about it to worry like,
you don't address it.
It doesn't exist, which also is unhelp.
in a certain way. It's got different demons to it. Like, it just didn't exist ever. I've never had a birds and bees talk.
How did you know about the purity ring and all that, just peer pressure? Well, yeah, like, that was more of a pure thing. It was very cool to have one that. The Jonas Brothers had one. You know what I mean? So I knew about...
This brothers happened.
I didn't know that. Yeah, one of them, he was famous for having one. Um, purity culture definitely existed. It's not that I didn't know the standard that was
expected out of a Christian woman to not have sex. But my household, we never spoke about it.
So that was a whole different thing of figuring out on your own, add the gay in. It's just,
you just, you're figuring that shit out. I remember, Jen, you have a similar story with
like a boyfriend of yours, but my first girlfriend had super, super, super Christian parents,
talking tongues parents. And anytime we would hook up, there was like a lot of guilt to
where you just stopped. So I think it's similar to Pump's story of like that was ingrained in her
and to where you just don't want to do it. You want to stop doing it because it's just like this
mental fucked up thing. Yeah. So my first boyfriend, his parents, dad was a former Baptist preacher.
And all of my peers were, I was on a cheerleading squad, Palm Squad. All of my peers were super
into purity culture, but they'd already lost the virginity.
I, my parents had taught, the atheist parents had said, look, at some point you're going to, you
know, you and your boyfriend who will remain nameless, you're going to get closer, you're probably
going to want to have sex.
Here's the consequence.
I wanted to crawl in a hole and bury dirt on top of me when my parents were talking to me
about this, but they did it anyway.
They talked to me about consent.
They spoke to me about STDs and they spoke to me about the consequence of pregnancy.
and there was never any shame.
It was a foregone conclusion for them as they projected.
I mean, this is normal.
And I was 16, 15.
So all the girls, the evangelical Bible thumpers, they, cherries were popped at 14, 15 years old.
Right.
Because they were trying so hard not to do it that they did it.
And so I was one of the last chips to fall.
And I don't think it matters what age you do as long as it's consensual.
I'm not trying to flex on that.
But I just think it's an interesting component that.
These people think that the atheists are the most morally depraved and don't have any more.
And I was the last one to fall, right?
Because I wanted to make, because my parents spoke to me candidly, I wanted to make sure that I loved this guy, right?
And so he was, so we did the deed and it was great, right?
Not the first time.
I was never that great.
Yeah, it was the first time.
Not good.
Young.
It's exploratory.
You know, it's these feelings of these hormones and this newness of all of that.
And this boyfriend of mine was tortured.
Tortured.
His mother once caught him beating off to the lingerie section of the Sears catalog.
This was before you young listeners, the internet and pornography on the internet.
So young boys had to find their porn via catalogs, lingerie sections.
His mother, you know, grabs it out of his hand, shames him.
You know, they're down in prayer and all of this shit.
And I just never like, I remember one time he was like, okay, we have to stop.
I remember thinking like, why?
Like why would we have to stop screwing like this?
What does that do?
I mean, Cherry's already popped.
That's out of the bag.
But it was just all of my evangelical friends had always this dark passenger in the car with
them of all of these things that they were worried about that were insignificant.
That doesn't make them a better person that cares for other people more.
My dark passenger has always been, that doesn't feel right that this person's getting taken
advantage of.
And that's the, my atheist home that I was raised in was more about being a secular
humanist, like caring for other human beings.
And my peers, my evangelical friends were always so concerned about virginity and then they
were going to be born again virgins and who was saved and who wasn't saved and who attended
church and who missed church.
stupid superficial shit that didn't matter who's tithing who isn't tithing it's just and then on top of all
of that they were really the meanest people had ever met like there was a cruelty in just beating
people down they were always punching down yeah look at this person's appearance this person's
kid isn't cute it's always just this punch down it's never a lift up only lift up for the people that
they personally liked.
And if you were outside of that personal inner circle, then it was, we're going to
punch down on every fucking one of you.
And we're seeing this, we're describing a microcosm right now that all of us are
familiar with in Bible Belt states.
So many listeners are going, yeah, it's exactly what they're like right now.
This is happening now nationally on a national scale.
And it's, I understand, and I know you two do to the psychology behind it because it's so, like,
worried about what people down the street are doing.
Like, who gives a fuck?
Mind your own business.
Who gives a fuck?
And you know what?
Like somebody's a cross-dresser.
Somebody's trans.
Somebody's gender fluid.
Who fucking cares?
Right.
Why do you care?
Okay, we'll do one last voice memo.
This one is from Sarah.
Hi, friends.
My name is Sarah.
This may honestly be a bit of a repeat for you guys.
But if you want to browbeat this to death with me,
let's go because I have had it with being invited to events that I have to either pay to attend
or bring a gift to. So a little backstory. Last year I had a friend that had a baby and got married
all within five months of each other. So it was the baby shower gift, the bridal shower gift,
the wedding gift, the bachelorette party, the day of gift. It was just a lot. And now I thought I was over the
It's been about six months since then, but now the one-year-old's birthday party is coming up,
and I get an online invitation four months in advance, by the way, to attend this one-year-old's
birthday party.
And what I have had it with is it says on the invitation that the host, the mother, will cover
chips and soda, but would appreciate it if someone would volunteer to bring food to the
party like an appetizer or a dessert.
And that is not all.
It went on to say a bunch of other bullshit and then at the end it said, also we will have
her piggy bank there.
So if you feel inclined to fill it with your spare change or one to five dollars or anything
else you're comfortable with, we would appreciate it to grow her savings account.
So not only if I accept this invitation to the party, do I have to bring a dish?
a present for the baby.
Now I have to rummage through my couch cushion to bring spare change so this baby can
have a fucking savings account?
I've had it.
I don't know what I'm going to be doing on that date in four months, but I can confidently
tell you it will not be attending that one-year-old's fucking birthday party.
This is why I started off this episode that my number one goal is to have less, less activity
on this device.
I want less interactions, not more.
I want less.
I don't want the superficial fluffery of that bullshit in my life.
I would rather have two real interactions per day than have to deal with that kind of shit.
And the robot auto text.
I oppose gatherings.
That is a reignited grievance in me that I've lost track of during Trump.
reign of terror in 2.0 and I just wish we could get back to really hating on this type of shit again
because we're so busy, you know, fighting fascism. But, you know, there's just a lot of
fuckery that goes on with this kind of stuff. And it was kind of our bread and butter when we started
this podcast when Joe Biden was president, we didn't have to worry about a bunch of this shit.
And we could really be the petty twats that we were born to be. You know?
Yeah. Like it's important to me that sometimes we get back to our roots and we talk about
these narcissistic party throwers that that do this kind of shit and I just I it makes me say I've
had it with people yeah and I've had it with gatherings and I've had it with breathing
breeding and I've had it with marriages all of that makes me very angry and it feels good to
feel that kind of anger again I'm welcoming it yeah no I've never like Kylie can speak about me
every five minutes she's spending money going somewhere for a destination wedding or a bachelor
party and just were certain colors and all that shit.
And then the kid thing, I think there was a sex in the city episode where Sarah Jessica
Parker was like, I've gone to all this shit.
I've paid for all these other peoples and I'm not married.
So I'm having a single shower.
Like everybody can bring me something because I've given the wedding gift, the baby gift,
the, you know, all the gifts.
But here's the thing.
It's just so off putting to me that you would have a one-year-old party.
It invites four months in advance because that's, it's kind of hard of making an excuse four months in advance,
but you can bet your sweetheart out and find an excuse.
I'd find it.
I guess I would.
Let me just tell you something.
I like sex in the city.
I do.
But just hearing you repeat the plot that she had a party for herself, a shower for herself,
that she felt so entitled after having gone to all of those that she was going to decide to be a part of the problem.
I would have a protest sign, even if you did this at your front door, in strong opposition, abolish showers.
All showers.
I would get pay. I would pay protesters to join me. I would pay them.
Well, you know, the Democrats, they have tons of paid protesters.
So it would be even call to find them.
Yeah, that's funny.
Wow.
That's taking it to a whole other level.
The gift and the savings account, wow.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
All right, listeners.
Let's get back to some of our original bread and butter grievances,
while at the same time we fight fascism
because we're good enough and we're smart enough to do both.
All right, Pumps tell them.
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What does an eagle say?
Ciccaw!
A little bit more enthusiasm.
Caca!
That's it.
That's...
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