I've Had It - I Love Rehab with Margaret Cho
Episode Date: October 24, 2023Jennifer and Pumps are joined by comedian and actress, Margaret Cho. Margaret has had it with scammers using her love of cats against her and geriatric politicians refusing to retire. Two things she h...asn't had it with? Rehab and funerals. Pumps brings down the IQ of the episode by once again giving out her personal information willy-nilly and Jennifer (the bony one) is decreed the Patron Saint of Podcasting. Come see I've Had It live on the Hot Sh*t Tour! More info & tickets available at https://linktr.ee/ivehaditpodcast and subscribe to I've Had It wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you to our sponsors: I've Had It is brought to you by Cologuard®. Are you 45 or older? Start screening for colon cancer with Cologuard, an effective and noninvasive screening option for adults 45 and older at average risk for colon cancer. Rx only. Learn more at Cologuard.com/hadit L'Oreal: This episode of I’ve Had It is brought to you by the new L’Oreal Paris Bright Reveal Dark Spot Serum and Broad-Spectrum SPF 50 Daily Lotion. Dark Spots? Game Over! Discover the new Bright Reveal Dark Spot Duo! Visit Target online and in-store to buy yours today! SKIMS: Believe the hype - SKIMS has over 100,000 five star reviews for a reason The Cotton collection and more are available now at SKIMS.com Plus, get free shipping on orders over seventy five dollars! If you haven't yet, be sure to let them know we sent you! After you place your order, select "podcast" in the survey and select our show in the dropdown menu that follows. Happy Mammoth: Listener, you can get your first bottle of Hormone Harmony for 15% OFF if you use the code HADIT on the checkout page. Go to HappyMammoth.com and enter the promo code HADIT on the checkout page. Valid till November 30th. Subscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IveHadItPodcast Follow Us: I've Had It Podcast: @Ivehaditpodcast Jennifer Welch: @mizzwelch Angie "Pumps" Sullivan: @pumpspumpspumps Special Guest: Margaret Cho @mararet_cho
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One, two, three. I'm just so much better at one I don't look. I know, and that was like a real problem.
A three in the clap were at the exact same time.
Yeah.
I'm kind of forced the clap into the three.
You think I rushed it?
I think you rushed the clap.
Just, do you want me to do it again?
No.
Hahaha.
Because the likelihood that you could do that two times in a row
with such force. Yeah.
Would be rare.
How are you, pumps?
I'm great.
How are you, Ginny?
Great.
I'm tired today, which is unusual for you during the day.
I know.
I think I need to be exercising more.
I know.
I've been bad about exercise.
Exercise gives me more energy.
I know.
Anyway, what have you had it with?
What I've had it with, and this happened to me this morning.
I mean, it happens regularly, but it just happened today,
is that when you send an email
and you detail exactly what you need,
then you get a call back.
And then you have to play phone tag with the person.
And it's like, why can't you just answer the email?
Because in the message, the person says,
I got your email.
So why are we having to have superfluous conversations when we can just answer all the questions?
Boom, we're done. I think some people like grandstanding on the telephone.
I just hate talking on the phone. I mean, I just can't, I hate it. I think people like grand
standing on the phone. I don't want a grandstander. I don't want a phone talker.
So those are my two worst nightmares all at once.
You know, Josh loves to like,
if he's driving from point A to point B,
he wants to keep me on the phone
until he gets to point B.
I know.
And it's just a, does he do that to you too?
No, not really.
Oh, he does it to me.
It drives me fucking bananas.
And it's just like, can we just not talk? Can we just talk when you get home? Can you text me? Yeah.
There's just more efficient communication options these days agreed. I don't know why we don't use them
What do you you had it with today, Ginny? I've had it with
what I would call
mainstreaming
stupidity
I would love to know the definition. Okay, so I'll give you an example.
Okay. Secretary Pete Buttigieg. Pete is talking about climate change. Okay. So then this
congressman says, yeah, we're going through climate change right now. It's called autumn.
What a dumb fuck. And so then Pete Buttigieg, who's like a road scholar. What a dumb fuck.
And so then Pete Buttigieg, who's like a road scholar.
Right.
So smart.
So our transportation, a very accomplished person.
And he's taking this hearing very seriously because it's fucking serious.
Right.
It's his job.
And this fucking schmohock.
I'll tell you, we're going through climate change right now.
It's called autumn.
And he thinks it's a burn.
He thinks it's this real knee slapper.
Yeah, that he's a goddamn comedian.
And Pete, like, incredulously looks at him and goes, excuse me.
And he goes, it's called autumn.
And Pete still, he's like, I'm going to give him one more chance.
Right, maybe he didn't hear.
And he said, I'm sorry, I'm not understanding autumn.
That's what the climate change is right now.
And then of course, Pete's like, no, what you're talking about is a seasonal change.
What I'm talking about is climate change.
And it's just like people want to mainstream and knee slap this fucking red neck dumbass,
low IQ, humor, and I fucking had it.
Like why out of all the things to grandstand about, would you want a grandstand that you're
a fucking dumbass?
If I was paid, I was listening to dirt dick. You're an idiot. You need to fucking dumbass. If I was Pete, I was to listen up dirt dick.
You're an idiot.
You need to be impeached.
I've had it.
But of course, he's, you know, a gentleman, that's why he's in charge of things and I'm
not in charge of anything, not even in this podcast because you're the star.
Of course.
Because I would have mouth-opped to that dirt dick.
I mean, what an idiot.
And just the fact that people vote for this political party that wants to mainstream stupidity and
deny scientific research. It just, it really, it makes me kind of sad and depressed.
Yeah, it is depressing. What depresses me even more than that is that the truth doesn't matter.
Facts don't matter. That's what is my biggest issue. I mean, it doesn't matter what the truth is,
what the facts are. It's just lies, lies, lies, and nobody seems to care. It's like fitting into
their narrative. And it's like, we used to value like intelligence and critical thinking and curiosity.
And now it's like, I saw this other thing on social media the other day. These fucking dumbass dirt dicks had this huge pile of books.
And then they had these like huge like blow torches.
And they're spraying the books like with this big book band.
And they're just like, oh yeah, fuck yeah, like, and I'm just like,
number one, you're so stupid.
Number two, this is on video forever.
And number three has been posted to the worldwide web and you're going to be the fucking dumb ass low IQ dirt dick forever.
Right. But I think they, they're so dumb they don't realize they're stupid.
Yeah, it's just, it's fascinating to me that so many people enjoy and then knee slap,
like trafficking in low IQ shit,
especially when it's supposed to be serious.
I mean, a congressional hearing,
it's by nature supposed to be serious about policy.
Right, not about how stupid you are.
Yeah, and then like, you know,
getting, having a big, fuck yeah, moment
because you burned, you know, some Disney books like fucking grow up, grow up.
It's called fascism. It is. Yeah, it's not cute. It is counselor. It is called fascism.
Yes. No, I know it's nuts. But anyway, I just, I think that the people are mainstreaming stupidity.
Right. And then it's like, it's like contagious. Like one of them's dumb. And then it's like, all these others are like, yeah, I'm going
to be a fucking dumbass too. And we can knee slap and chuckle and belly laugh and hoot
and holler and just be dirt dicks together. I've had it with the dirt dicks. Had it with
dirt dicks.
Dermass dirt dicks. Dermass dirt dicks. That's what we're going to start calling the dumb
asses. Dermass dirt d it's even females. Nobody's safe.
They're all dumbass dirt dick.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, dumbass dirt dick.
I think that's too kind for her.
I mean, I really do.
I think she's just dirt dick.
I mean, she's so vile.
I think there's gotta be something worse for her.
There probably is, but for now,
I wanna settle on dumbass dirt dick
and I want you to give it to me.
Okay, you can have it.
Thank you.
Welcome to I've Had it.
It's a high IQ day for myself.
I'm Jennifer.
Hi, I'm Angie.
She is the pretty one and I'm the young one.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Listener, I want to share,
Pumps and my husband Josh and I went to lunch earlier.
Did I just want to share something alarming?
And if your friends with Pumps, this kind of stuff comes out of our mouth all the time. So my husband knows pumps his ex-husband.
Right. And they went to college together. And so my husband says, hey, how's your ex-husband doing?
You ever hear from him? She goes, you know, that's funny. I woke up to a text from him this morning.
I woke up to a text from him this morning and he told me that he had lost his iPhone and
he needed my iCloud login and password because he was still connected to it. And if I didn't give him my iCloud login and password that he wouldn't be able to sign into his Instagram.
And I say to pumps, please tell me you didn't give him your eye cloud login and password. Just, oh, I did, but I followed it up with a text, change the password after you log in.
And then delete it.
And delete mine.
Yeah.
What are you going to do about your Apple ID?
No, I said for him to get off my Apple ID, but you told him to change your password.
No, I said, here's the password, change and get your own Apple ID.
But I don't think that Kylie does the Apple ID have anything to do with Instagram? I think this
is a scam. None of that adds up. I see that's what I think. But Amazon text all over again.
That's exactly what I think. She put me at lunch, but I think he's up, I think he's reading her
text right now. I don't give a shit if he reads my text. I mean, I have literally the most boring texts in the world.
I don't care.
I think it's fishy.
I think you should be more vigilant.
I think that-
With my security.
Yes.
You cannot give your fucking eye cloud log in
and password to your ex-husband.
Is your eye cloud your Apple ID?
Is that all the same?
Yes, I've got it now that.
But I mean, I really don't care.
You can have my Apple ID and password.
I'm gonna show you how to kick him off after this.
Okay, perfect.
That'd be great.
Yeah, you shouldn't have done that.
Yeah, I'm just not a big security person.
I think you should just read your social right here on there.
Data birth and social security number.
I don't think you can.
Why don't you go ahead and just share your
Apple ID with with every way with our listeners. I mean, Kylie, don't you find that alarming?
Yes, as you were saying that, just like pumps. We just learned this. We talked about this.
We learned it through the Amazon thing. Yeah. I mean, I don't know why it would scam me.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know why it would scam me. Has he before?
Well, I mean, my marriage vow's starting with that all the way through.
And you did willingly divorce him, correct?
Yeah.
I'm calling bullshit.
I don't think he was on your Apple ID.
It has nothing to do with your Instagram.
I think he's up to no good.
And as usual, I will crack the case.
I will be the whistleblower and then you'll be like, I know I should have listened to you.
I'm just too trusting. And here we are, all of these years later in zero growth on this front,
on your part, all this therapy, tens of thousands of dollars, and all these investigations,
all this shit that we go through. And you just blindly via text message, hand over your Apple
ID and password to your ex-husband.
Yeah, I think he was on my Apple music at some point.
So maybe that's what it was.
I don't know.
It said Instagram.
I don't really care.
We need to do like a red flag seminar.
Yes.
I'm the worst.
I'm the worst about red flag.
You don't care about this stuff and then it happens and then shit happens and then you're like, oh my god, I was so dumb.
I'm here trying to help you right now.
Avoid that. And you're poo-pooing it, being dismissive. Like, oh, you're just so couldn't be bothered by any of this.
Despite literally, I think we hear constantly daily. Do not give your Apple ID log in and password to people. And I would think at the top
of the list for Apple would be don't give it to your ex fucking husband. You're totally right.
God damn divorce lawyer. If you had a client that called you and said, my husband has hacked
in and gotten in all of these texts and he's creating this big shit storm for me. Don't
say I don't have any text. Don't even say that.
And then you would say,
well, how did he get in?
Well, I get in my log in and password.
You would immediately call me and say,
listen to what a dumb fuck my client is.
Yeah, that's probably right.
I mean, I can't argue it.
I just didn't think one thing about it at the time
until you just said that.
You didn't think anything about, quote unquote,
Amazon texting you at 3.30 a.m.
for your social security number.
I did think enough to ask Kylie later,
like early that morning and we, she did tell me,
but I mean, I'm looking at your face right now
and I realize it's a huge mistake.
Yeah, I've got a face of disappointment listener.
It is, it's a huge disappointment face.
I think the listeners are sharing in this disappointment.
I think anybody with a fucking pulse
with the exception of you would find this information alarming as
fuck. You do not give this shit out to people or your ex has been in
particular. Yeah, particularly probably. Yeah. Well,
lesson learned. I'll have Kylie make sure it's all square when we
leave. Can you kick? Can you, can we say if he's logged in? Yeah, you can kick people off
Can we see if like if he's logged into her text messages? No, we'll just see if he's logged into the Apple ID
Because you can get text messages. Yeah, he could now send messages through Apple ID as you probably have Apple Pay in there your email
I do have Apple Pay. Yeah
have apple pay in there, your email. Oh, I do have apple pay.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was just a really, and here's the thing.
Here's what's so jarring about this entire thing,
is that we're trying to convince you that you're a dumbass.
I'll admit it.
And you literally, you're just kind of like,
I don't care.
Yeah, I just, let me ask you this.
How many lessons do you have to learn with this motherfucker to get it?
Oh my God, I think we're in the infinity range.
Right.
So you're just going to keep going just.
Yeah.
No, I just did it.
Exercising and sanity with this.
Yeah.
What's the definition of sanity?
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Yeah.
I just, I mean, I really didn't until I saw your face and Kylie's face,
I think it was that big of a deal.
Cause I think he was on my Apple music for some reason.
Apple music is different from your Apple ID and as nothing to do with Instagram,
the story stinks to high heaven.
A first red flag.
And I bet he was texting you from his iPhone that he did not lose.
Yeah. What time did you receive this text?
I guess like 10 or 11. I was already a bad.
Okay. And then I text, I just texted it back.
I think a scam is in full swing right now.
Okay, Kyle, you'll have to look for the scam traps.
Your high IQ episode.
Yeah, just gone. Yeah.
I started off with what dumbass dirt dicks?
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just a dumbass. Uh-huh.
You're not a dirt dick, though. You're not a dirt dick. We'll just call you dumbass.
It's the star of the show. Speaking of high EQ, let's hear it. I've got some comments
just for Jen. Okay. Okay. This is an Apple review for five stars titled, Jen the patron
saint of podcasts. Oh, that's nice. Jen doesn't receive enough praise
and adoration. Not to mention she doesn't have a proper title yet. I hear by decree Jen as the
patron saint of podcasts. Thank you for all you do and all you are. Oh, I love that. The patron
saint of podcasts. The and I don't receive enough praise. You know why? Why? Because you are such a thirst-trapping star
of the show you just hogging it all away from me all the time.
Yeah.
I'm just a real star-hawker.
That's very nice.
That is nice.
That's really sweet.
I've got one more that only you would like.
OK.
It's on YouTube.
And they commented, these old girls
are the funniest in the world right now.
Why?
They just say the truth.
And the bony one is hilarious.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Thank you for calling me bony.
Thank you for sharing that.
That's quite a compliment.
It is. Thank you very much.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, listener, sorry to bring down the IQ of the episode.
Yeah, I'm telling you, this is alarming.
Ha ha ha ha. Stuff. And I'm glad I knew, I,
Kylie, I waited to bring it up. Well, until we recorded it, because I knew you would freak out
being the millennial that you are that you would hear about this egregious security laps
on pumps as part. And to me, this one is worse than the Amazon laps.
Yeah, and ex-husband is much more dangerous.
Yes.
And she's a fucking divorce lawyer.
Higher pumps, attorney at law.
She'll get your password right over to her. For the safest divorce you could have.
Okay, listen, I've listened to her.
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Margaret Cho, how are you? Welcome to I've had it. Thank you. How are you? Very well. Thank you.
We're good. Glad you're here. Well, before we got you on here, we were talking about
Glad you're here. Well, before we got you on here, we were talking about
Pumps Angie here Pumps recently her ex-husband email her and
Said hey, I'm locked out of my old eye cloud and I need it and she's a divorce attorney Margaret
She just willingly sent over her apple ID and password to her ex-husband So I've been brow-beating her about that for about the last 15 to 20 minutes as
her producer Kylie. But I noticed on your list of things that you've had it with is along this same vein which are scam emails.
And I think Pops has kind of set herself up for quite a few scams that are yet to be determined. But listen up listener,
I will reveal each and every transgression on the podcast.
Should they surface? But what's going on with your scam emails?
Well, I get the ones that disguise the email as somebody that I am very intimately connected with.
Somebody that I know well, who would send me a link. Right. I received one of those from a really,
a friend that I know pretty well.
And it was like, hey, I am traveling
and I need some help.
And you're the only email address
that I happen to have saved.
And so it kind of, it made sense.
And so I were a spawn like, yeah,
hey, it's nice to hear from you.
Do you want me to find like,
is there some information I can find for you? Cause I was slightly suspicious. But yeah, it's nice to hear from you. Do you want me to find like, is there some information I can find for you?
Cause I was slightly suspicious,
but yeah, it's amazing how clever the email scams
are getting.
Pumps is absolutely prime target for this.
All it took for her to give her Apple ID to her ex-husband
was one email and she just woke up the next morning,
willingly sent, here's the ID, here's the password,
send it over.
No questions asked whatsoever.
You know, I've had issues before,
during the pandemic, I wanted to buy a cat
and I got scammed out of a couple thousand dollars
because the way that they framed it was like,
oh, this cat's available,
you gotta get work on now,
like we, you know, we've gotta get rid of this cat out now. Like, you know, we've got to get rid of this cat right now.
We really need you to do this.
And, you know, could you just go to CVS right now
and get some gift cards?
And I was like, it was really late at night.
It was during the pandemic.
I didn't know, I didn't have an ability to contact,
like my accountant to ask if this is usually
talked to my accountant and ask if something like this would work out. I was like they, they try
to get you so fired up. They were setting the cutest pictures of those guys.
Really? That can resist. I mean, they really, and that's just so insidious to use your love of
animals. Totally. Totally.
But then they kept, like, so the reason I sent the money,
through these gift cards, and then when the cat was supposed
to arrive via career, the career called and said,
well, we need a special carrier because we have
some weather, so we need you to purchase this carrier
and we'll pay you back when you get the animal,
when we drop it off.
So that's when I was like, this is a scam.
Obviously.
Because they knew that I was good for this amount of money.
Now they're going to keep it going.
It's like the intimacy of your phone,
but also when they get in there with those little fishing things,
then they can find out some things about you like you love cats, which
I have many cats now. So you don't have to buy them.
And this is a dog. I was going to say that looks like a dog.
This is a dog, but it is a cheat dog. She is a good girl.
Which brings me to something else that you've had it with. And let's talk about the etiquette
of owning a dog and what we have to do when we own a dog.
When you have a dog, you have to pick up their poo poo.
And let's say, okay, this is the exception.
If it's in your own yard.
Right.
Then it's your, it's up to you.
Right.
If you like to have ducy in your yard, that's your business.
Right.
But when you go to a public park or anywhere in the street, you have to pick up after you're a dog, right?
So I know that there's a condo that now asks for your dog, the dogs a sample of it so they could do a DNA test. So they DNA test all of the errant puss.
DNA test all of the errant poos, and they can identify whose dog it was
if they live in that log.
I love that.
That's good stuff.
You would get evicted.
No, I didn't.
Even if you didn't know, even if they didn't do it,
it's a great deterrent.
For sure.
It's an excellent deterrent.
Plus, I'm sure they would stick you
with the DNA testing cost,
which I think is exorbitant.
We'll see, she's getting on to me because one time I was taking my dog, I take my dog
on a walk every day.
He takes a big giant steaming poop because he's 95 pounds and he shits like a grown man.
So I'm just like, I don't think I have it in me today.
So the next day, I picked it up.
I've done that one time and then one time I didn't have enough, you did it three times and I picked up the first two
because I had bags and I, once I'd walked him back,
I got in the car and went and did the poop.
But it's just that one time I just left it for 24 hours.
I know that's a bad pet owner, but I did go pick it up.
It happens.
You and you picked it up later.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
It's like, it doesn't, I mean, it's,
everybody's had that
thing where they've run out of bags. Or maybe it's too wet to pick up. Yeah, that's happened.
Or maybe you're just in a rush and you just can't, whatever it is, we all have those
exceptions. I'm just talking in general, like my wish is it just ruins the street for
me. It ruins the park for me when I see like a lot of it.
The exception is, sometimes I think it's human.
And then I'm like, well, you know.
Well, and here's the deal.
I don't think it's setting a good example for your pet.
I mean, your pet wants to see you be a good person.
Your pet needs for you to be a responsible good person.
And so I wouldn't do that, not only to other people, but most importantly, Margaret, your pet needs for you to be a responsible good person.
And so I wouldn't do that, not only to other people,
but most importantly, Margaret, I wouldn't do that to my dog.
I wouldn't leave his shit out there in public
because that would be not being good to him
or his privacy.
Right.
You know, he'd eat his shit laid out there
for everybody to see it, literally.
Well, every dog to come and smell it.
That's right. That's right.
That's right.
I know what he ate.
I respect what he's doing.
I respect my dog.
Therefore, I pick up it's shit because I don't want to embarrass my dog.
Right.
You're so right.
It's true.
Okay.
Speaking of shit, Margaret, we have covered quite extensively the incident that happened
on Delta Airlines, where the person had explosive diarrhea
and it on in route to Barcelona.
And I saw that you yourself
have had an experience with diarrhea on an airplane
if you could share that with us.
You know, I had it, I'll tell you exactly when I had it.
And it was American Airlines flight.
And I was coming home from Leslie Jordan's funeral,
not funeral, it was his celebration of life.
Okay.
He's a good friend of mine.
So it was Nashville to Los Angeles,
relatively short flight, like three and a half hours.
And I was sitting thankfully in the aisle.
And I kept getting up. you know, it's suspicious when you get
up more than three times during the flight. I got short. It's a red time. But I didn't have,
yeah, I didn't have that option. Like, I just had to keep getting up. I had to keep getting up.
Every time I go back to my seat, I'd find more, more was revealed about my condition.
And I had to keep getting up.
And pretty soon I realized it wasn't just the diarrhea,
but it was just gas, so I could compete it.
So that it was like coming out and I couldn't,
you know, there was nothing I could do.
It was coming from also, every
time I would go, I would leave a little bit in the air walking
by. So I crop tested my own plane. And and pretty soon, the
people around me started to suspect there's something wrong
with the plane. It smelled so mainly bad. Like it was like, this is not from a person.
This is coming from the plane.
Like this is, there's something wrong with the plane.
You know, should we land?
It was like really, and they were asking the flight attendant,
you know, what do you think is going on with the plane?
And I just really, I put on my headphones,
my AirPods and I just kind of disassociated.
And I watched this like comedy of errors that people getting up and down, going up and talking to the captain, coming back and like looking, looking around and, you know, and then taking bags of coffee and putting them in the bathroom. That's what those do sometimes when it's really bad that they were like trying to come up
with solutions and people just walking and let a lot of like the flight attendant walking,
a lot of the like pressing the button to call the flight attendant and people talking to
the flight attendant asking about this smell.
And it was I was so glad when we landed.
I think the anxiety of that actually stopped the flow of the diarrhea.
Because I was so anxious that actually was the cure.
So somehow that made a mental block.
It was like the mental emotium that I needed.
Not moment.
But what a terrible.
And I felt so bad for that person who had it on the
flat. I mean, it was in the aisle. I guess, which I think, oh, my goodness, because I know
that feeling. And you know, you have to, when you, you have to sit down and flat, you
can't get up. Right. So what do you do?
A sub-Margaret. Now we want to play a game with you. And it's called had it or hid it.
So I'm going to listen things. And if you don't like the thing, you'll say you've had it.
And if you like it, you'll tell us that you would hit it.
Oh my God.
Welcome to Had it or Hit it.
I would hit it.
Had it.
I hit it every day sometimes twice a day.
All right.
So Had it or Hit it, George W. Bush.
Hit it. And why would you hit George W. Bush now?
I feel bad because I actually think he was an okay president. It was like really, you know,
I bashed him so much when he was in office and I really didn't like that
administration and I was really furious and he is a a work criminal, but in terms of people that
have been in the White House, I actually think,
oh, you know what, he was not bad.
Like he actually had a lot on his plate.
Is that not the ultimate?
Like I experienced the same thing.
When he was in office, I mean, I like injected John Stewart
every day into my veins because I needed to hear somebody say this is insane.
And then Trump comes into office and he's so terrible.
He's so horrible.
And then they trot out George W. Bush
who lives in Dallas now and he paints portraits
of immigrants and I was like,
oh, I forgot about him.
I kind of liked him.
So I can give a little bit of deference to him,
but if I take my brain back to how they picked on gay people
and immigrants and granted he's evolved from this,
but it really, I still think that that's just one thing
I can't forgive because all of that homophobia
is still brewing and seems to be horrible,
much much worse now than it even was then.
Yeah, it does seem worse now. Yeah, it is worse now. And that's, he's a part of that.
He's the reason why it's so much worse now.
Agree. So it's hard to, you know, look at it and completely like rewrite the historical
accuracy of it. But yes, you're right.
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Okay, had it or hit it, cats.
Oh, hit it.
I look at many cats. I love all my cats
They're so perfect and beautiful and they're very different from dogs
And I'm I'm just in love with them. You have to like go with go with their pace and it's always on their terms
But I'm so I my life has been so enriched by all the cats that I have.
Oh, that's really sweet.
Okay.
Had it or hit it, geriatric politicians had it.
Oh my God.
Same.
Had it.
Had it.
Had it.
I mean, it's, it's so bad.
I mean, all of the Mitch McConnell, I mean, the Diane Feinstein of it all.
Agreed.
You know, it's just like, please, you know, why don't, yeah, it's just bad.
It's bad.
It's bad.
And here's something I'm going to say that I don't think people are really talking about.
The left side of the country or the progressive side of the country or the democratic side of
the country needs to acknowledge and learn from the Ruth Bader Ginsburg lesson.
She stayed in and now row was overturned.
She stayed in and she should have resigned.
And women in our state, we live in abortion, ban America.
There's a lot of shit going on for women that don't have the same freedoms that pumps
that I had when we were younger in this state.
And so I think that we have to learn lessons that this is a very
critical time in our nation's history. You see fascism on the rise. You see people celebrating stupidity and ignorance and books. And I just think the Joe Biden's, the Mitch McConnell's, the Diane Feinstein's,
I think it's just time to make the country bigger than your personality. There are plenty
of Democrats that can run. And of course, I would vote for Joe Biden again, but I don't
think it's right for him to run again. I think it's somewhat selfish. It's my opinion. It's powers out intoxicating, I mean, it must be
to want it just hold onto it.
And I'm not really talking about Biden on that,
but like the McConnell's, like,
is it so intoxicating that you're not even gonna enjoy
your life at all?
You're just gonna do this forever and die on a podium?
I mean, is that what it is, the power?
Well, if you think about politics,
it really is another avenue of celebrity.
It's not necessarily this ideological fight.
I mean, to some extent, they can frame it that way,
but also, I think it really deeply is a thirst for fame
and that kind of power or the cult of personality power.
And so politicians are really just another avenue
for that sort of like human desire to want to be exceptional.
And in celebrity, there's that sort of thing of like
where if you keep being celebrated,
then retirement doesn't seem so appealing.
I think it's a really difficult question, you know, especially because for progressive
who you need politics to get things done, to make society really right itself, it's very
hard.
Okay.
Had it or hit it rehab?
Oh, hit it.
I love rehab.
If I could live in rehab, I would. I love it. So great. So what you do is you
just wear hug boots and like juicy couture like Valor tracksuits all day. Yes. You don't have to wear
any makeup. You don't have to do anything. Your meals are presented to you, there's snack time, you get to do, you get to
make crafts, there's hot people around and I love it, they'll give you a horse sometimes.
It's great.
Like you just go in, they take your phone, you can't talk to anybody, except for the people that you're around
who are usually really sexy and really nice.
And sometimes people are like really crazy
and that's another form of entertainment, right?
I love rehab.
I've seen you for a year and nine months,
which is like you go in for 28 days,
but I'm like, not enough for me.
Like I love it.
The only problem with rehab is it's so expensive.
Yes.
It's been all my money in rehab, but that's okay.
Yes.
Because it was worth every penny,
and I'm still benefiting from it today.
And I love, I just love the concept of it.
I think that we need to be able to check out of life sometimes
to deal with our mental health. Great. I agree. concept of it. I think that we need to be able to check out of life sometimes to deal with our mental
health.
Great.
Great.
I agree.
I love it.
My husband's been to rehab five times.
I see always, Chuck's rank.
Can you go through one podcast episode without saying I've been to rehab five times?
And so coincidentally, I've been to five family weeks.
And I remember when I was at the height, before I understood the disease component
of his what I perceived as cruelty,
I didn't really quite understand that yet.
So it's first rehab stint.
I'm there and they're like, okay,
write a letter to yourself with your left hand
and so it's your non-dominant hand.
So you can write a letter to little Jennifer.
And I was such a bitch, Margaret, for like two years.
I'd be like, yeah, I want to go to rehab
and write a letter to little Jennifer for about six months.
But I will say this, everybody that finds themselves
in rehab or however many visits it takes,
or you were there for a year and nine months,
it's hard to be an adult,
and a lot of times a lot of us arrive at adulthood
very broken. And then all of a sudden we have to face these very adult decisions that were ill
equipped to face. And so I very much am with you on rehab and rehabilitation and second chances
and redemption. And I think that is just a beautiful, it's a beautiful time to be alive
where people are embracing that and welcoming that into adulthood.
It's beautiful.
It's like a way to sort of sidebar into like a way to like live that is really comfortable,
especially like if you're like dealing with the heavy duty drugs and alcohol, like to get
away from that and get away from all the things that make you
want to do those things and like really assess like shit, you know, should I be doing this? Like,
what am I actually doing with my life? It's a really, it's like it's a beautiful process, but
some of the things are really I think intense. I, I baked so much in rehab. I mean, that's something, like when you vape, it's so, I don't do it anymore.
I'm so glad I don't.
That's like, my thing, when you go to rehab,
just try not to vape,
because it's really hard to stop doing it,
when you get out.
Okay, and our last one,
and we love to throw this one around,
had it or hit it, gender reveal parties.
had it or hit it, gender reveal parties.
Had it. Why?
Why?
Why?
Like also, why are you putting that on a person
you don't even know yet?
Right.
Like, what is that about?
Like, we don't even know who this is going to be
and why and it shouldn't matter.
Like, and it's just like,
just have a party that you're having a child.
Like you're already gonna be celebrating.
That's great, but it's very stressful.
And then people start fires.
Like, people die.
People die.
People die.
People die.
Like why?
I mean, it's just to me, it's so needless.
And also, I don't it's just to me, it's so needless.
And also, I don't know, I'm very, very, like, restrictor,
restrict myself from sort of gender identifying things anyway,
like I think.
It's so, to me, it's really meaningless
in my own, like, everyday life.
But it's also weird when you're trying to put that on somebody
that's not even born yet.
Right.
And I'm hoping that, you know, I think the millennial started this and I'm hoping that
Gen Z, I have, you know, two Gen Z kids and particularly my 20 year old, his whole group
of friends at Syracuse University, they are all about like eviscerating gender and gender
roles, which I think is really cool.
And so hopefully Gen Z gobbles up the millennials
on this gender reveal thing and it's over once and for all
because I have had it, Margaret.
Yeah, I've had it.
I've had it with any of those kinds of things.
Like I don't really like showers.
I don't really like weddings.
I don't really like bachelor of bachelor at parties.
All of that stuff is so weirdly like, it's just, because I've
been married and had all, and I didn't enjoy any of it, it's very stressful.
Like the only thing that's not stressful is like a funeral.
Then you can really sit back and enjoy.
I didn't think waiting up to that. I don't want it. I read that.
It's probably the best thing I've heard all my thoughts.
Margaret, you are an absolute treat.
I have enjoyed this time with you so, so much.
And I can't thank you enough for joining us on our little podcast here.
Thank you so much.
It was great having you.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Best thing I've heard is sit back and enjoy the funeral.
Sit back.
Stress-free.
Totally stress-free.
You know, she is kind of right,
because when you're the bride or you're having the baby,
you have to entertain everybody,
you have to make sure everybody's totally. So, I mean, I get it. I think she's on to something. If you're all, you can kind of right. Because when you're the bride or you're having the baby, you have to entertain everybody, you have to make sure everybody's totally.
So, I mean, I get it.
I think she's on to something.
If you're on, you can kind of slip in.
Yeah.
Depending on your closeness to the deceased.
The deceased.
Yeah.
You can decide if you can middle row it.
Or you can kind of back row it.
You know, I mean, like, she's got a really good point.
She's got a great point.
And I think the problem with the weddings, the showers,
the bachelor parties, the gender reveal parties, is they all are lacking in real authenticity at this
point, at least from my lens and the ones that I've been to lately. Almost all the weddings I've
been to in the last five years, every single one I'm more divorced. And they were all highly produced
for social media. I think that's the problem with the gender reveals.
I think that I don't care how much Gen Z.
Gobbles, Eptomalenaels, social media's here to stay.
I just think it's, I think all that shit's for social media.
I want to, I only gender reveal, I want to go to
is for like a transgender to celebrate that child
because they're getting beat up so much right now by these white jobs. And so that's something to celebrate that child because they're getting beat up so
much right now by these white jobs and said that's something to celebrate. I agree. Yes. Listener, I enjoyed Margaret Chau so much. I love that dry
sitting here. How about the plane? People go into the pilot thinking they were gonna have to
wait and just how she beamed, how proud she is of her cats. I was darling almost made me not hate cats.
I know I didn't she was so on fire for her cats and I felt it was so earnest.
I did to her.
Yeah.
I couldn't tell her what an absolute uncontrollable can you are.
I'm going to cats.
And so I did that because I care about you and I wanted Margaret to like you.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate that.
Hopefully she won't listen to the talent
of the stuff.
I'm going to learn to the clatter.
She's like, hey, that fucking, she's stupid.
She gets scanned.
Dumbass.
Yeah.
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