I've Had It - Mental Self-Checkout

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So we're supposed to start the podcast. One two three. Welcome to America's number one podcast. Now that we're in Trump's America, you just get to gaslight everybody. We are larger than Joe Rogan. We are the biggest podcasters in America. And that's why we say, kakaw. I think it's time.
Starting point is 00:00:23 You think it's time to pull the whole thing out? Patriots, gay triots, they triots. Kakaw! All right, listen up. Pumps, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with, which this is annual, if you're a two-year listener, you know this is my annual bitch every November. Why are we putting Christmas before Thanksgiving? My neighborhood is full of Christmas lights.
Starting point is 00:00:48 They're already on. On my walk this weekend, we have reindeers and Santa sleighs in front yards already. It's not been Thanksgiving. Can we not have Thanksgiving before Christmas? I've had it. Not to mention the radio stations, which I never listened to,
Starting point is 00:01:05 but I was flipping through with sports. They're already full-blown Christmas. I've had it. Thanksgiving is first. That's the natural order. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, that's how it goes. We're rushing Christmas, I've had it. I have an answer for you.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Okay, what is it? There was a war on Christmas. And Christmas won. Christmas won Christmas won. Christmas won. Christmas won. It won and it continues to win. I even saw some stuff going up for Halloween. That's how resounding the victory has been. It was a knockdown, complete knockout punch. Thanksgiving, Halloween, you're done. Yeah. Christmas is the leader. Pretty soon it's going to be year round Christmas. I'm just, I just feel like it makes things go too fast.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I don't like it. I like to observe the natural order. Let me tell you what I've had it with. OK. I've had it when people ask you a question like, what is your favorite movie? What is your favorite meal? What is your favorite song? I don't have it narrowed down to a favorite. I like a bunch of different shit. Quit asking me what my favorite is. I want to do away with this type of questioning because the person who has
Starting point is 00:02:22 asked the question thinks, oh, I've got to give a really good answer here. Right. And from now on, I'm going to say, that's a stupid question. There are literally millions of movies, millions of songs, and millions of different types of meals. I have lots of favorites. I have a lot of stuff that's on my preferred list, but I don't have an actual favorite.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Like, I was asked this question recently, and I'm just like, this is a stupid question. What's your favorite movie? Well, I have a ton. I probably have 40 that I like equally, the same. And then the same with songs and the same with meals. I don't have a favorite. I think that's a very narrow-minded approach
Starting point is 00:03:02 to have to life, that you just have this one favorite. I think that's a very narrow minded approach to have to life that you just have this one favorite. Okay, what about when somebody asks you that question like what's your favorite movie and you tell them and then they start telling you how that's a terrible movie. Like they argue with you about what your opinion is about something subjective. Have you ever had that happen? Yes, which is why I'm not answering these questions anymore. It's just like, shut it down. I'm gonna flip the script and say, what's your favorite stupid question? Out of all the stupid questions you can ask somebody, what is your favorite one? That's what I want to know. That's a great flip the script. I really like that. Yeah. How
Starting point is 00:03:42 about what's your favorite stupid question other than the one you just asked me? Exactly. See, that's the kind of fuck you attitude we need to bring to 2025. I like it. I'm all in. Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie.
Starting point is 00:03:58 She is the star of the show, a podcaster that far surpasses Joe Rogan and Call Her Daddy and all of those. She is the most famous woman in all of podcasting. I am so famous that I am the number one podcaster with all WWE fans and UFC fans. I'm their favorite. I agree. So listen up, Patriots, Gatriots and Natriots. All right. You know, I think everybody was paralyzed So listen up, patriots, gay triads, and natriots. Caw-caw!
Starting point is 00:04:25 All right. You know, I think everybody was paralyzed and sad, licking their wounds and moping around because of this election. And I know I sure was. Oh gosh, yes. But I want all of you to know that, number one, we are still on the right side of history. Nobody can take that from us. And number two, we have to stop with the politics, integrity
Starting point is 00:04:53 politics. And we need to begin the fuck you politics. Fuck you for lying to the American public and for all of those people that were lied to by MAGA and All of those people that are going to get marginalized by MAGA do not be mean to them online say hey look Dumbass we told you he was a liar, but we're here our tent is big You can come over here when the economy tanks you can come over here when they round up Immigrants and deport them you can come over here when they round up immigrants and deport them. You can come over here when they make gay marriage illegal.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And all of these things, we're here. We tried to sound the alarm bells, but you were gaslit. And so our focus, instead of picking on each other, needs to be picking on the person that attempted a coup, that lies to the religious right and tells them he's this big Christian, meanwhile he's fucking porn stars. That's where our focus needs to be. And we need to focus on preserving democracy and preserving our right to free speech because
Starting point is 00:05:58 we still have it. We still get to shit talk. That's what this podcast is about, is about shit talking and we're not giving it up. I could not agree more. In fact, I have a shit talking story. Would you like to hear it? Yes. Okay, it's about your husband.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Okay. So recently, Jennifer's husband, Josh, he needed a favor and he needed that favor from me. And so he needed me to take him to get, pick up his car that was in the shop. So I said, of course I'll help you. I would love to help you. So we go out to the car and he was going to have to sit in the back seat because Jennifer was in the front seat. And he threw on his one to 10, 10 being the biggest tantrum ever seen by a person in the history of the world. Where would you rate his temper tantrum about sitting in the back seat? As far as Josh Welch temper tantrums go, it was about a three or four.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You think it was just it was more of a passive aggressive. So he starts wiping the seat down, which to his credit, I do have a Siberian husky that gets hair on it. But he's like wiping the car and he's sulking and he's huffing and he's puffing. And I said, Josh, just let me get in the back seat. I'll just get in the back seat so you don't have to worry about it. So he gets in the back seat or he gets in the driver's seat. He's driving my car. So then I'm in the back seat and I said, we need to stop and get gas.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And he goes, well, can't you get it after you drop me off? And I said, Josh, I'm sitting in the back seat of my own car because you're such a titty baby. So I think that you should be in charge of getting the gas. So anyway, he gets the gas, I drop him off and we're getting out of the car and he actually says to me when he gets out of the driver's side and I get around from the back he goes, you look really cute today except now you have dog hair all over the back of you. And I looked at him
Starting point is 00:07:58 and I go, fuck you. The best part about Josh is as annoying as he is, that story tickled me for two or three days. I thought it was hilarious. So in that vein, listener, and going back to where we are, if you have people in your lives that voted for Trump and then they are upset because they start to realize they were lied to, you can say, fuck you. I'm here for you, but fuck you.
Starting point is 00:08:25 That's the lesson. You do not have to say, fuck you. You get what you deserve. You say, fuck you. I'm here for you. I know you were lied to. I know you bought into it. I know you went down a conspiracy rabbit hole,
Starting point is 00:08:38 but we here at I've Had It are here for you. And our community is here for you. But listen up, listener. This is going to be a tough fight. It's going to be an ugly fight. It's going to be a brutal fight, but we still have the first amendment. And for us here, I've had it. The first amendment is shit talking. The first amendment is telling Josh Welch, fuck you. Yeah. So that's where it is. That's where we are. Now, if some of you have tightened your circle
Starting point is 00:09:07 because you just can't be around Trump supporters, I get it. I've been doing that for a very long time because it's difficult to face people that there's different levels of Trumpers, but especially the ones that you know feast on the racism and feast on the cruelty. You can have a boundary with them. You don't have to actively scream fuck you to them.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But every single day we have to come together and form communities and support each other and remember that in all of these big economic centers, they're overwhelmingly blue. We have power and we still have it and we have to stay together to fight this cause together. And that's why in this podcast, each and every Tuesday and Thursday, we're gonna laugh. We're gonna say, fuck you. And we're gonna have fun. Cathy, our producer's, fuck you. And we're going to have fun.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Cathy, our producer is here. Kylie, Cathy, what's going on? I have an email to read you speaking of shit talking. She said, Hi Jen and Pumps. I've been meaning to write this to you for more than a year, but after election day, I thought this story might raise your spirits. Who doesn't love a literal shit show? To give you some background, I started teaching at a new school
Starting point is 00:10:25 and my biggest issue with this new school is that the only staff bathroom was a prison style gang bathroom with 25 stalls and zero privacy. Well, on October 10th, 2023, I was standing talking to a colleague when all of a sudden, I felt like maybe I needed to use the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Before I could take a step, something inside of me burst and I had diarrhea running down my legs. I sprinted to the bathroom and went to the furthest stall. Pretty sure I left a trail into and out of the bathroom. I then sprinted out of the building to my car and called the office to say I was sick and was leaving immediately.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I put an old beach towel down on the car seat and started my 35 minute drive home. You may be wondering what this has to do with you. Well, on the day in question, you had just released a new episode and I put it on in the car to distract myself from the smell. Unfortunately, that episode included a long discussion of the Delta shitter.
Starting point is 00:11:20 You trail diarrhea down the aisle of an airplane en route to Barcelona. I was screaming answers back at you as you talked about all the questions you had. Like what did you eat? A frozen burrito? What were you wearing that it just spilled right out on the floor? A dress? I eventually made it home, threw out the towel, dress, shoes, and even my bra which was technically
Starting point is 00:11:41 unaffected but still somehow complicit. But the questions still haunts me. How do you know my life? Were you in that bathroom? What the fuck? I've had it." Oh my God, that's just... I've been there. I have been her. I mean, it is the absolute worst. I mean, and then you have to, not only did you shit all over yourself in a public place, which that's the worst. Like you think that I can't get any lower than that. But then the next thing you know, you're having to hide the evidence in a public restroom
Starting point is 00:12:20 and then you're having to slink to your car. Then your car is just a disaster area. No, I've been there. I feel her pain. I get it. Completely get it. Yeah. I mean, that's, those are the stories that are going to keep us going.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah, that's right. You know, if she can push through her explosive diarrhea, if pumps can shit in a styrofoam cup on the side of the highway, we can get through four years of Trumpism. That's right. I mean, we can do it. We can do it. We can do it.
Starting point is 00:12:52 We have a special breed of cynicism that we can all come together and fight this together. Our cynicism collectively equips us to deal with what's about to come. Our listeners are tough. We are tough. Yeah. She fought through the explosive diarrhea and made it home. What I love the most is she's answering questions back while she's driving. All right, listener. Today we have a very special guest and he has been a friend of mine for a very long time. And he is the president of the National Mayor's Association.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And he is the mayor of our great city and his name is Mayor David Holt. And Oklahoma City, you might be thinking, why are you having a mayor on? Oklahoma City is like a 50-50 city. 50% voted red, 50% voted blue. So let's ask Mayor Holt. What the fuck? How do we do this? And I'm asking for leadership on a local level. We're going to start local. Yes, yes. Just my micro starts build to the macro. And we have I have a lot of questions for him surrounding airport management that I want to address. Right. So without further ado, we're going to have to do a little switcheroo in the chairs for our YouTube viewers. Pumps is going to have to come over here next to me.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And let's welcome Oklahoma City Mayor David Holt. Listener, this may come as a total shock to you, but Pumps and I have not always been this pulled together and rock solid. In fact, we used to be rather screwed up when you say Pumps. I would say damn near psychotic. Totally. And we have written a cell phone expose. One could even say it's a manifesto. And the book title is,
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Starting point is 00:17:39 my friend Mayor David Holt. Mayor, how are you today? I am wonderful. This is a huge honor because many of your listeners may not realize, but you two are the pride of Oklahoma City. I don't know about that. I think maybe you think we're the pride of Oklahoma City. Per the last election results, 50% or 49% may think we're the pride. The other might think we are the devil.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Oklahoma City is really purple, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, I often say it's kind of a... By the way, we should probably establish, we are in Oklahoma City right now. I don't know that everybody listening to this knows this, but yes, Oklahoma City is really a microcosm of the country, both politically, demographically, and in the way we vote in state and federal elections.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And that sometimes is lost because people think of Oklahoma. Right. But Oklahoma City is very different than Oklahoma. And yes, the county last week that makes up 80% of Oklahoma City voted 49, 48. Yeah. I mean, it's basically, as I said,
Starting point is 00:18:39 a microcosm of the country. Exactly. All right, Mayor, what have you had it with? I've had it with people who listen somehow some way to like 20 podcasts every single day. And cause I'm gonna tell you, like, I'm gonna listen to this.
Starting point is 00:18:57 It will take me two to three months to get through this 30 minute podcast. I mean, I don't understand. I will talk to people and they're like, oh my gosh, you gotta listen to this podcast. I'm like, okay, I'll try to block out some time, sometime in January to do that for you. But you will talk to people and I'm sure you,
Starting point is 00:19:15 now you're in like really deep in the podcast world, I'm sure you talk to people who listen to like, what seemingly seems like 40 podcasts a week. And I know the games of like, speeding it up and all that to try to make it more efficient. But again, I have no concept for how people do that. And I live in a city where I'm in the car,
Starting point is 00:19:31 obviously all the time, and we're always driving. And yet still somehow that does not work out for me. So I've had it with these braggarts claiming that they can listen to every podcast under the sun in a record amount of time. Yeah, quit overachieving listener. Only listen to I've had it. There's news. There's one podcastachieving listener. Only listen to I've Had It. There's news.
Starting point is 00:19:45 There's one podcast. How many do you listen to? Okay, so I watch podcasts at night on YouTube instead of like TV. So I probably do five or six a day. Now I'll fast forward. I've had it with you. See?
Starting point is 00:20:03 I've had it with you. That's what I'm saying. You're full of it. You're totally making that up. You're reading the synopsis or something. No, are there synopsises? I guess there are. Yeah, and the YouTube notes.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah, no, I watch them online on YouTube. That's what I do primarily. And then I ride around the car with like one or two, depending on how much I'm in the car. This would stress me out. This is me saying like, I want to try to read six newspapers a day or something.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Like, it can't be done. What you're doing is impossible. Well, let's. Aren't you a lawyer, too? Like, how am I going to? Yeah. She's America's greatest legal lawyer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:33 So I'm starting a law firm called Mima Meat Curtains at Oklahoma City. Here we go. OK. We have a question for you. And a lot of our listeners, everybody has the most grievances during air travel. And so I wanna know who is the boss of Will Rogers Airport? That's our airport in Oklahoma City.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Who's the boss? Well, I mean, so the airport is owned by the city. It has a director. He answers to a board. Okay. A trust technically. Right. And I appoint all the members of that trust.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Perfect. I was afraid that was what you were wanting to do. This listener, we are about to impact micro change. Right here. Okay. Okay. So we have some grievances. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Should I have brought a notebook? No, you can forward the podcast to your friends that listen to 40 podcasts grievances. Okay, should I have brought a notebook? No, you can forward the podcast to your friends that listen to 40 podcasts a day. Right, yes. Yeah, could you transcribe this for me? All right, the first question is, who is the JetBridge operators? Wait, we are really getting into the weeds.
Starting point is 00:21:40 We gotta get into the weeds, because these are things that I think we can impact change in people's lives that are nonpartisan. I think both sides of the aisle can come together for this. So when you have a city like Oklahoma City that's not like O'Hare, you pretty much know what's arriving, what's leaving. There's not a whole lot of planes. When a plane arrives on time,
Starting point is 00:22:05 and the jet bridge operator takes about 10 minutes to connect the jet bridge to the plane, where do we complain? To whom do we complain? Is that you to the board of directors? So you're saying you've parked? We're parked. You're at the terminal,
Starting point is 00:22:20 but you feel that there's a 10 minute gap. Correct. Is it possible that your concept of time is just actually a little off? It's always possible that we're the problem. Always, never rule that out. But we travel a lot for this podcast and I will say that sometimes even the pilot says,
Starting point is 00:22:38 well folks, I don't know, we're waiting on a jet bridge operator. It could be less, more like a staffing issue probably. It's not necessarily that the guy or gal is there like the jet bridge is banging against the building and we don't know what they're doing. It may be that like there's only so many jet bridge operators and we'd love to have more. But I mean, I find in lots of things
Starting point is 00:22:57 and I'm sure you're having the same experience, we're all understaffed. That would be my first hypothesis. Obviously I can run this, try to run this down for you. Can you troubleshoot this for us? Workshop it? Tell them about what happened the other day. Okay, so we arrive in Oklahoma City.
Starting point is 00:23:11 We're on time. And as you know, it's not a booming like 50, 60, 70 planes landing at the same time. So we pull up and park just away from all the gates. And they said, are gates not ready for us yet? So we sat for 20 minutes waiting for a gate while there were at least 10 to 15 other gates that were available. Free gates.
Starting point is 00:23:35 American. American. But we were like, so she and I of course were bitching to each other like, why wouldn't we go to another gate? This seems so inefficient. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this guy turned around and goes, I wouldn't we go to another gate? This seems so inefficient, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this guy turned around and goes,
Starting point is 00:23:46 I think it's going to be real soon. Like he was trying to put a pass fire in our mouth. A passenger, a fellow passenger? A fellow passenger was just like, these ladies are going to go bananas. What a great guy. Yeah. Well, but here's my point.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Is the ability in business to improvise. So you pull up, and the pallet's like, well, folks, looks like this plane's delayed pushing off, blah, blah. Why didn't people within the airport say, let's just push them to gate six? Because we were supposed to go to gate five or whatever it was. Or like, let's just open the emergency exit
Starting point is 00:24:14 and throw the inflatable slide down or something. Now you're talking. I would have loved that. Because these gals, these gals have got to get on with their day. They got podcasts to listen to. They don't have time for this crap. Can you tailor the airport for us?
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, on the, well, I don't know. Your, your viewers and listeners right now are like, well, I think I'll just catch the next podcast. I think this one's gone a little too far into the, far into the weeds for me. But, um, no, I, I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:41 you also have to consider that some gates are controlled by different airlines. So like all the gates are not necessarily available to an American Airlines flight. Gotcha. Okay. That makes sense. They have kind of their little world. You know, when you walk to the airport, like there's United, there's Delta, there's Southwest. So anyways, I'll take all this under advice. One final grievance regarding the airport and then we're going to move on to something
Starting point is 00:25:03 else. But one final thing, if you'll ever remodel the airport, if you notice when you walk down to the gates, like if you're heading down to the very end of the airport, tile floors with grout and roller backs. Yeah, I know. Keeps you awake. It's there so you don't fall asleep. It's like those rumble strips on the side of a highway. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Tarazzo, I think, I know it's expensive, but I think Tarazzo is more, we're not gonna have that many gates. I think our city always invests in spending in the city.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I think a nice, smooth Tarazzo to replace that tile floor with all that grout because it's awfully noisy. My wife says the same thing. Okay. I think this has been a great advertisement for Oklahoma City. I think that people who come,
Starting point is 00:25:50 I want them as they roll their bag through our airport upon their arrival to visit because they wanna see the hometown of this podcast. And then suddenly when they hear that, they'll go, oh, that's it. That's it. That's what she was talking about. And I think actually it may become more of an identity for us. Maybe we can make it go viral.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Right, clicking everywhere. What airport am I in? Click, click, click, and everybody puts on their TikTok and Instagram and everybody knows by the sound that they're an OKC. See, I like where your head's at. You should be in charge of the city. OK, all right, I want wanna move on to something else.
Starting point is 00:26:26 So, listener, Oklahoma City has been going through a bit of a renaissance, and everybody votes to invest in the city. We have this all-star basketball team, the Oklahoma City Thunder. There's a lot of beautiful development going on in downtown Oklahoma City. And there is an art installation in downtown Oklahoma City.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It is a ring. It's a circle. Is he even taping this? Or was this, you just needed a meeting with me. No, it's real. Is this actually, is this real? It's real. It's real, hello?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Is this thing on? Okay, it's a, listener, it is a circle that's in like a median. And if you think about the way OKC is spelled, no, it's like an art circle. Okay. Okay. And it says, OKC, OKC, OKC, all over it. I'm familiar.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I can't believe you're not using the commonly. And then it's spelled, if you think about it, C-O-C-K, C-O-C-K, and it's the shape of a ring. And Mayor, I apologize for my language, but somebody else put this there. C-O-C-K, C-O-C-K, and it's the shape of a ring. And Mayor, I apologize for my language, but somebody else put this there. It's called the cock ring. Listener. I'm familiar with this landmark.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Okay, okay. I wanna know who cleared this. Yeah, great question. I think it came in just before I took off. How'd you find it? And yes, it is definitely one of those things. It was more private sector driven. It actually, there's actually like some sort
Starting point is 00:27:51 of air conditioning units or something that it's blocking. Okay. That are inside of it. Okay. Yeah, I think it's one of those things where it's like, you know, it kind of happened and once it had, it's very expensive and probably not worth it to undo. But a little, yeah, a little bit, one of those things where you thought, nobody said anything. I think it's actually expensive and probably not worth it to undo. But a little, yeah, a little bit,
Starting point is 00:28:05 one of those things where you thought, nobody said anything. I think it's actually a great case study in sort of human behavior, because there probably were people who noticed it. But like, how do you say that out loud? How do you say it out loud at a planning meeting? Exactly, or I mean, is this the-
Starting point is 00:28:18 And you're probably like, oh, this is so childish. Nobody will ever say that. Right, no one will ever think that. And then everybody immediately goes, oh my gosh, it's a cock ring. Oklahoma City has a cock ring. Or is this the gay agenda working in secretive ways? Did these gays install a cock ring in the middle of the heartland? I don't know. I mean, these are just questions that I think are just asking
Starting point is 00:28:39 questions. We'll put the picture of the cock ring for our YouTube watchers so you can see it. But anyway, listen, listener, it is in a beautiful little intersection of all of this development that's going on in downtown Oklahoma City. But you are the boss of all the mayors, right? Well, I will be. I'm the vice and that's not necessarily how I would describe it, but I understand what you're referencing. I am the vice president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors. I will be the president in June. Oh, that's so amazing. So we were on, we were in Pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:29:08 and we were in Scranton and their mayor comes up, introduces herself to us, Paige, and she immediately says, do you know David Holt? And I said, I do know David. I know him very well. And we took a selfie and sent it to you. But you're very popular among other mayors. Well, we love each other.
Starting point is 00:29:25 We're all very popular amongst our class. I think that we all feel that mayors get things done, that we work together well across bipartisan lines, that we really take pride in the effectiveness, the effective government that's happening in a lot of cities, maybe in some contrast to the state and federal level. So yeah, Paige Cognati, Scranton PA. I'm sure now she's got to put in the investment of time to listen to this podcast. Right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Because she got a shout out. At a short schedule. One thing she said, and I wanted to see what you thought about this. She said, mayors are pragmatists more than they are politicians. Would you agree with that? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. No, I mean, like, we can't define success by a press conference or a great tweet, you know? Like, we have to get things done. And too often, it seems, especially in legislative bodies
Starting point is 00:30:12 at the state and federal level, it's like, yeah, people just... They've lost sight of what actually an accomplishment looks like. Actually doing something, you know? And mayors don't have that option, because a lot of what we do is absolutely integral to your daily life. Like, you know, if we treat the job like performance art,
Starting point is 00:30:32 you know, your trash isn't gonna get picked up, your water's not gonna come out of your faucet, your police and fire protection isn't gonna arrive when you need it. And so like, we have to take this deadly seriously and we often, you know, represent communities like Oklahoma City that are like 50-50.
Starting point is 00:30:47 So we can't say, well, we're just gonna side on every issue with the Republicans or the Democrats. We gotta find ways to work together. So yeah, no, I think we're very pragmatic. And so sometimes we upset the extremes, but a lot of times mayors are elected as they are in Oklahoma City in a system where everybody can vote.
Starting point is 00:31:04 This is really important to, I think, to an effective electoral system where everybody can see all the candidates and all the candidates have to face all the voters. And that's what we do in Oklahoma City and a lot of cities. We don't go through a closed partisan primary. So I can build a coalition of normal Republicans, Democrats, and independents, really the 70% of Americans in the middle who just want to work together to get things done. That group doesn't really have a mechanism to speak with one voice in most other races, but they do in Oklahoma City. And so we just govern differently. We govern for the normal
Starting point is 00:31:34 people, the two-thirds in the middle. And we see it through the continued passage of initiatives like you just referenced that have made the city a better place. The conquering. Yeah. I'm just kidding. Not a maps project. No, but the map. But right now, you know, I think a lot of people, half the country, half of your city are feeling really sad and isolated and maybe like they don't fit in, maybe like they don't belong.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And as mayor, I follow you on all the social media, and we've been friends for a long time since before you were mayor. You always make a point, if it's Gay Pride Month, or the Pride Parade, to be inclusive and to say, I as your mayor am here to celebrate with you. If it's Ramadan, you send out a tweet. And if it's some of the Jewish holidays, the Christian holidays,
Starting point is 00:32:27 you always make a point because you realize that so many of your citizens of this city are not the exact demographic and sexual preference and gender and all of the stuff that you are. And I think that that's a really important component that's going to help people get through this is to know that on local levels, people that actually live around you, accept you. And want to see you as being equal and want to see your life as being fair to everybody else's. So what can you speak to a lot of our listeners
Starting point is 00:33:01 who are, I mean, literally in the fetal position, terrified because we have a lot of our listeners who are, I mean, literally in the fetal position, terrified, because we have a lot of LGBTQ plus listeners, and they feel like they're gonna be even further marginalized. What do you, as a mayor of a 50-50 city, what message do you have for these people that feel so forgotten about and marginalized,
Starting point is 00:33:20 both from the electorate and from the incoming administration? You know, certainly here in Oklahoma City, you know, I think my message is, as it has been for the six years I've been mayor, that all people are welcome in Oklahoma City. And as you said, I have and will continue to go out of my way to make sure that they see that tangibly.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And as you said, it's not just, like, historically marginalized populations. I also wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy Easter. You know what I mean? Like everybody deserves to feel valued in Oklahoma City. And I can't necessarily extend that influence any farther than the city limits of my city, but I've always viewed in life
Starting point is 00:34:03 that I'll just try to control what I can control and try to, you know, set a good example in my backyard. And that's not going to change. And as I said earlier, I mean, here in Oklahoma City, we've found a way to work together. I mean, the last election in Oklahoma City, the last presidential election was 49 48. Actually, we've had two straight 49 48 elections in Oklahoma County, the largest county in our city. And, 49, 48 elections in Oklahoma County, the largest county in our city. And that came 11 months after maps for got 72%. This election came 11 months after a major plan
Starting point is 00:34:32 to keep our city, a major league sports city got passed by 71%. So like we keep showing that even as we're voting in a divided way on federal officials, we are uniting on key issues to our city. So I think we'll keep trying to do that. I can't control everything, but we have managed to hold this together
Starting point is 00:34:54 in the face of nearly a decade of national division. And part of it is built on this idea that everyone has value. And I ran on and have served under this ethos of one OKC. And that's what that means to me, that we all should be part of our city's narrative. And certainly we maybe had overlooked that in the past. We're a very diverse city.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Under the age of 18, and our city is 60% non-white. So, and we have people from every corner of the world and every religion. And yeah, I just will always, I don't wanna serve if I have to do it in a bigoted way, or an exclusive way. I wanna serve in a way that appreciates all our residents, and truly all our residents.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Sometimes people that kind of swing the pendulum the other way, they're like, well, I just only wanna represent the marginalized populations. Well, I mean, that's not right either, right? I mean, it's gotta be for everybody, and that's the way I view it. Well, I think it's really important that you say that
Starting point is 00:35:49 because I think right now leadership, even though you only represent Oklahoma City, we've had Senator Bernie Sanders on, and he only represents Vermont, but the messaging, because of how close we all are now through social media and the instant delivery of news and of people's opinions, there are people outside of Oklahoma City, they're little, you know, we have a lot,
Starting point is 00:36:17 again, a lot of LGBTQ plus people that live in these rural areas. And hearing somebody say, hey, you're accepted, I don't think you're any different than me. I think you have the same value as me goes an incredibly long way because sometimes I think these communities feel like, you know, the bullying gets, it starts local and then it gets national. And so I've been thinking a lot about you because listener David is a Republican. You're the only Republican I've ever voted for in my life.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Same. Ever. Well, no, that's not true. And when it comes down to it, I vote for you because you're so inclusive. In being so inclusive, you don't really lose that many votes from the other side either. It's a position that brings people together.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And I think when you look at, you were talking about the MAPS project. And listener, that's where our city votes for tax increases to enhance the city. And when you think about any time these issues are brought up on any ballot anywhere, if it's legalizing marijuana, if it's raising the state minimum wage. Typically these ideas when they're brought
Starting point is 00:37:29 without any personality representing them, people typically vote for security and the advancement of our species, like advancing together. And I think that the instance of you being a mayor of a city that's 50-50, and everybody's pretty united. Of course, you've got, you know, a few jerks over here that are like, oh, he's too woke. And some over here saying you're not woken up. And that's just always what it is. But I think when you most recently-
Starting point is 00:37:58 I said 70%. I didn't say a hundred. Yeah. You won by 70% of the vote. That's kind of like that 70% leaves room for that 15 and 15 kind of on the extremes who just can't ever be satisfied. Sorry, go ahead. No, but I think that there's a big message in here for as we look forward to something beyond partisanship and building consensus.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And we start with a default setting of just everybody's welcome here. And don't go crazy. I'm not talking about immigration, all that. I'm talking about people that live in the cities they live in and live in this country right now, we need to be welcoming, accepting and loving to all. Don't you think? Right.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And that's what freedom is supposed to be about. You know, I, I'm a, as you said, I'm a registered Republican. I served as a Republican in the state Senate. Part of what drove me early in life to that perspective was a strong belief in personal freedom. And freedom isn't freedom if you're expecting everybody to live their life exactly like you live yours. That's not freedom.
Starting point is 00:38:58 You need to protect the ability of your friends and neighbors to live differently. And that's freedom, you know? And so live differently, and that's freedom. And so anyways, I think that's ultimately what drives me and also just a belief in equal opportunity and that everybody's a human in this city and deserves equal opportunity. Doesn't mean equal outcomes,
Starting point is 00:39:18 but they certainly deserve equal opportunity, and that's not gonna come if we're not welcoming and inclusive. Pumps, our ability to suck and then wake up the next day and suck more than the previous day is undefeated. It's unparalleled. We are the champions. If you would like to see how bad we suck, please join us in New York City in November
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Starting point is 00:41:02 had it or use the code had it at checkout. All right. Now we're going to play a game with you called had it or hit it. OK. Oh my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Had it or hit it podcasts. Oh man. Like will I even be will this even air if I don't say, if I don't say. You'll be censored. If I don't say hit it, reality is had it. But hit it. Okay. Had it or hit it, the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Oh, hit it. Yeah, yeah. I know we're very excited for the Thunder. As we sit here, there's been some injuries just in the last few days, but you know, it's okay. Playoffs aren't till April. We'll get it together and the season started very strong. Oklahoma City Thunder could be on a championship run this year. People could be visiting to watch the Oklahoma City Thunder
Starting point is 00:41:57 and get the click, click, click, click, click. That's right, airport. That's right, and I can assure you after this podcast episode, the jet bridges and the gate situation I think that's all gonna be fixed. You just got to get that to rat to rat. So, okay had it or hit it self-checkout Oh, I was like I was like thinking of that from like a mental health standpoint We should all engage in some self-checkout no you mean actually
Starting point is 00:42:23 I'm good with self-checkout. What what's mean actually, I'm good with self-checkout. Is this a controversial issue? Sometimes. Sometimes it is. When they want you to tip yourself, I don't like that. Do you have you had that yet? Oh, you mean like, well, I was thinking like Walmart or something, but you mean like when they tilt the screen towards you,
Starting point is 00:42:35 that's a tipping culture. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like CVS, if you go to CVS right now and self-checkout, it'll ask you if you want to leave a tip. CVS? Yeah. Are you sure it's not the donation, the forced philanthropy? I'm 100% sure.
Starting point is 00:42:48 It's 100% sure. No, I think I'm hit it, but you've given me some food for thought. Let me ask you this. Do you think if you are doing the self-checkout, you're the one working. Do you think you should get a discount? Well, I mean, honestly, I think you are because they could no longer afford all of the employees in order to keep, you know, I think you're essentially getting that benefit
Starting point is 00:43:14 of fewer employees through probably not necessarily price decrease, but probably a lack of a price increase. We're really getting into like econ and capitalism here. But, you know, I think you essentially are getting some sort of financial benefit for the fact that you're checking yourself out. You just want to see it more directly. I don't think the end user is. I would I would probably say the board is.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I think the end user is getting some sort of benefit. But that's a whole nother podcast that we can add to the 40 that you're going to start listening. Right. That's right. That's right. OK. Had it or hit it, book banning. Oh, had it, no, this is ridiculous. That's un-American. You know, you can't ever profess your belief in the First Amendment or the contest of ideas
Starting point is 00:43:59 and think that some things are simply not fit for our library shelves. I understand, I mean, reasonable conversations you can have about age appropriateness, that's a different issue. But like, but, and a reasonable one, but just the idea that you would just say, you know, this book shouldn't even exist in the world
Starting point is 00:44:16 to the extent that we should actually throw it on a fire. You know, I mean, like that's, that has never ended well, and it has never been something that we've looked back on with pride. So I don't know. Right, history's never kind to the book banner. Okay, had it or hid it, selfies. You know, I'm pretty big selfie guy.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Sometimes that's, you just don't have a staffer nearby to take your picture, so you just gotta do it yourself. You know, so I don't have a problem with that. And I mean, I'm kind of a human selfie stick, you know? I mean, I'm the one when it's, and it's a group. I'm the one, I'll get on the right and I'll do it, you know? Cause like, I'm the one with the long arms. And so I'm, no, I got no problem with that.
Starting point is 00:44:55 You know, people think sometimes politicians take too many selfies, but you know, we got to show we were there. It's all about, you know, holding up the, celebrating whatever it was, who or place that we were at. I think politicians right now need to be anywhere, everywhere, all of us. I think you just, I think you gotta do,
Starting point is 00:45:12 I think you gotta flood the zone. You gotta do podcasts, you've got to do newspaper, you've gotta do all of it. I think the media has changed and the way people get their news and a lot of that is generationally. And so I think selfie it up. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:26 OK. Last one. Had it or hit it equality? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hit it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And as I said earlier, this is a society and a country that doesn't necessarily guarantee equal outcomes, but it absolutely guarantees equal treatment under the law, equal opportunity economically and in every other way. And so to me, that's what defines equality. And I'd like to think that as long as I'm the mayor of Oklahoma City, that's an ethos that will come from the very top every day consistently. Well, Mayor Holt, thank you so much. Did you have a question?
Starting point is 00:46:02 I could talk. No, I was just sitting here thinking I could talk to you forever. Like I kind of feel better after I talk to you. Wow, well that's very, that's very, it makes me feel good. I mean, yeah, because I've been kind of on a downhill slide, I'm not gonna lie, Mayor Holt. It's been rough. Well, I wrote a piece this weekend for the Oklahoma,
Starting point is 00:46:16 and that Oklahoma City, and maybe this is gonna be translatable to a lot of other communities, there's so many good things happening here, and I know the frustrations and disappointment that people might have about national politics, but this is where your life is lived. And if you've got something good that you can work with other people on in your own communities,
Starting point is 00:46:36 find that as your outlet and your place for solace, I think, right now. And we certainly have that in Oklahoma City. So I encourage everybody in Oklahoma City, regardless of who they voted for for president, to keep finding ways to work together here. And let's get good things done in Oklahoma City. So, you know, I encourage everybody in Oklahoma City, regardless of who they voted for for president, to keep finding ways to work together here and let's get good things done in our community. And I think that's a statement that could be made
Starting point is 00:46:51 in every city across the United States. Mayor Holt, thank you so much for joining us on Oklahoma City's hit podcast. The pride of Oklahoma City. The pride of Oklahoma City. We are very proud of your accomplishments in this arena and I'm sure it will last for years to come and I've enjoyed watching it
Starting point is 00:47:12 and I'm just so grateful to sit here now today. And one last very selfish shout out, I'm very well acquainted with two of your biggest fans, my wife Rachel, who runs United Way here in Oklahoma City and also her cousin, Christopher Carroll, in PA, who is a huge fan and will now just, will squeal with delight with that his name was just mentioned on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:47:33 You got some street cred. I love that. I love that. All right, listener, thanks so much for listening. Come see us in New York City at Town Hall Theater this Saturday at matinee, because we care about your sleeping schedule. Pumps tell them. We will see you next Tuesday and Thursday.
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