I've Had It - Met Gala, Muppets and Meltdowns
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So are we supposed to start the podcast?
Ready, one, two, three.
Patriots, gay triots, they triots, black triots, brown triots.
We love you.
And all of Maga and the fascists can do wet pumps.
Fuck off!
Which, I feel weird doing it in front of Josh, even though I shouldn't.
You always feel embarrassed when we do it in front of people.
I know.
It's like I'm in a bubble otherwise.
Who was the most embarrassing?
The most embarrassing, God.
That's a tough one. Maybe I'll tell you who it was. The cute guy that was in California, we did Jerry O'Connell. That was the most embarrassing. Because he's so cute. But he's so like jovial and funny and he was doing all this stuff with you. But he's so darling. Like he's so cute. It's intimidating. Do you have a crush on Jerry O'Connell? Who doesn't? Look at it as your chance to talk dirty. Pumps. That's your shot.
Maybe if you're attracted to the guy instead of saying fuck off, you can say, fuck me.
Please.
It's been 7,000 days.
Throw that in next time.
All right, pumps, what have you had it with?
Okay.
What I've had it with, what I was going to start with is what I've fucking had it with is when you have a traffic slowdown and a guy on a crotch rocket comes right in, right next to you, in between the lanes.
That's what I've had it with.
But what happened to me just now is I was prancing around the gym in light green leggings
going to yoga and a girlfriend in the class, I walk in and she busts out laughing at me.
And I'm like, oh my God, what?
She's like, look in the mirror.
My camel toe was so bad.
It looked like a dick.
It looked like I had a dick in my pants at yoga just now.
Not even flat.
I don't remember how many episodes ago it was, but it's got to be two years ago.
I advised you that you had to remain vigilant in camel toe prevention.
Your voice went through my head.
You, how you do not feel, because it looks so painful when I see your camel toe, and you're so unaware of it.
I'm like, is her vagina that numb from lack of use?
How does she not feel this giant, thick, wide dental floss up her twat for God's?
It's unbelievable.
So any way I can leave and come back maybe in about five or ten minutes?
Oh, no, because my grievance is directed at you, which let me just dive into that.
Pumps, you'll love this one.
I have two grievances with Josh.
And I just want to say before I do them, there was a time and pumps can attest to this
where I would say to Pumps and I would say to Josh, I just want normal people problems.
I don't want to deal with addiction and, you know, money issues.
And we had really, listener Josh and I had really big major life problems.
And now I have normal people problems.
And I have gratitude for normal people problems.
And so here are my grievances with Josh.
Number one is he is a purse hijacker.
And what I mean by this is last night, we were invited to a party
that Medi Hassan of Ziteo Media was hosting. And I have a lot of really cute little evening bags that I
have calculated when I purchased them. Like phone, little sleeve of nicotine gum, a lipstick
keys. It all works out perfectly in my head. I scale it all out when I buy the purse. I'm like,
this is perfect for me. This is the perfect evening bag for me. And I have multiple of these.
As we're leaving, it never fails. As we're leaving,
Josh, first of all, he can't just walk out the door.
No, don't talk.
He cannot just walk out the door effortlessly.
Like, oh, I'm ready to go and we just walk out.
We have to narrate.
Do I have this?
Do I have that?
Oh, I need to pee.
We're narrating every fucking thing we're doing.
And I'm still standing at the door.
And then it comes a handful of shit that he wants me to put in my little pre-scaled purse
that I didn't allot for his glasses, his what are they, Zen?
What are those things?
A little zen nicotine pouch.
Sometimes there's some, there's a wallet.
There's all of these things that he dumps on me.
And I'm trying to be agreeable.
And I'm like, okay, be a shareer, be a big girl.
So I start to try to make room in my purse for the hijack that took place.
Then I arrive at the venue and I'm trying to fit my phone in, which again, I pre-calculated when I purchased the purse that my shit would fit in it.
And only my shit.
It's my stuff.
That's my first.
And I only want my stuff in it.
And so as we're walking in last night, I'm like, because his little Zen container was there.
And his wallet was there.
And I was like, now my phone won't fit in here.
She did this like, I mean, she looked down and she fumbling through, couldn't get her phone.
It didn't fit, right?
Because my stuff was in there.
And I can see this noticeable just glare up at me like, motherfucker.
Josh, did you offer to take your stuff back?
she didn't have it in her purse?
I think I did actually.
I did.
Okay.
Which is huge growth.
Huge growth.
Because before it would have been like tough titty, cram it all in your purse.
You're the purse carrier.
Right.
My second grievance with Josh is the frequent visits to the restroom and how unwell, how ill-timed they are, ill-timed.
For example, we're at a boarding game.
we've been sitting there to board an airplane for an hour and a half, one hour and a half. You've had an hour and a half to go pee and or poop. And that's like pre-boarding starts now. And all of a sudden, Josh has to race to the restroom. That's number one. This is a compound grievance. The second point is, I believe that he is a bulimic pooper. And what I mean by this is he's constantly forcing poops that aren't.
ready at in a very ill time to manner i i'm very proactive in time too
when it comes to pooping like i try to get out in front of the problem like it well in advance
well in advance i'm so glad that these important topics are being shared like that everybody
needs to know again i have gratitude for these problems i have gratitude
You care for what you wish for.
But even the purse hijack.
That the purse hijack is my complaint with you.
The purse hijack is almost unforgivable, really.
And it's constant.
And you have a man purse.
It's not like you're against carrying your own bag.
No, but some of these functions, I don't know if I want to bring that.
I know last night was kind of an exception.
But I've done it many times before.
And it is like on a small purse, if you add three or four items to a very small handbag,
It just consumes the handbag.
And so I accept some responsibility for that.
I have to admit it.
All right, Josh, what have you had it with?
Well, I've had it with a bunch of things.
But the first thing I've had it with is, and I've thought a lot about this,
but it's men that wear khaki shorts.
And I want to preface this by saying that,
I used to wear khaki shorts.
Okay.
Okay.
And some part of me wants to wear khaki shorts again, but there's nothing appealing or
attractive about wearing khaki shorts.
Like they just don't fit well.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Do you see all the kids or guys that wear these big khaki shorts?
As an adult, as an adult man wearing khaki shorts, seems impossible to me.
They just don't fit.
they don't look right.
So that's number one.
Number two are these puffer vest that men wear.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
The puffer vest.
I despise those puffer vest.
I think maybe it's because I despise the people that wear the puffer vest.
So I'm going to put those two in one category.
Then the third thing that I've had it with, I recently moved my law office to
Midtown, Oklahoma City, not Manhattan.
There's just a slight difference.
I don't want anyone to be confused.
But back in the sticks, back in Oklahoma, we caught Midtown too.
So I recently moved to Midtown, and I'm about two or three blocks from a sanctuary for homeless people.
And there's a bus stop right in front of our office.
And I'm building all this up because I'm an atheist.
I'm not a Christian.
But what I really had it with are Christians who don't act like Jesus.
Okay?
And when I say that, I see a lot of the homeless population around this new office, and I see how much help people need.
And so I make a point.
Like if I go outside and I bump into someone, sometimes I'll give them money, if they need a water, if they need a drink.
And then I think to myself, you know, I'm an atheist.
I'm not a Christian.
I don't necessarily believe in Jesus.
and all that. But if I was a Christian, it would seem like I would try to emulate the Savior,
the guy himself, Jesus Christ, and all these people that I see that are Christians are just the
opposite. They don't want to give shit to anybody. They don't want to help anybody. In fact,
what they want to do is prevent people from getting help that need help. And so my grievance,
aside from khaki shorts in puffer vest or Christians who refuse to act like Jesus
should be barred from Christianity.
Their name should be struck from the halls from the ledgers of Christianity.
What about a Christian wearing khaki shorts a dry fit polo, which I think you've mentioned before on the podcast?
Under Armour.
Under Armour, which is kind of like,
like workout fraud because they have on an underarmor shirt and they're not actually working out
with a puffer vest, walking past homeless people and saying disparaging things.
See, I think all of those things go together because the type of people that wear khaki shorts that are men
and that wear sleeveless puffer vest or in Oklahoma at least white male Christians.
And most of the white male Christians don't act like Jesus in Oklahoma, at least that I'm
I know, but I try not to know that many of them or just talk to them.
It's a concerted effort.
So I just want everybody to know that this atheist in Oklahoma is out there doing the Lord's
work.
I'm out there helping people.
I'm out there trying to act like Jesus.
Good for you, Josh.
That's a great grievance that I have personally failed to address because that's a good one
because I was raised from jump in that evangelical.
Christian bubble. And when it comes to helping the poor and feeding the sick or whatever it is,
I can't remember. It's been so long. That was not what, that's what in our goal. Like the stuff
acting like, we talked about it a lot. We didn't act like it. I mean, we demonized the poor. We were
ugly to people, judgmental. So I think that's a great overlooked grievance. I have found the most
religious people I know in Oklahoma are the cruelest about the homeless problem. But these people
also say they support the troops and they're such patriots and they support the armed forces.
Well, 35% of the homeless people that they demean and ridicule and just are such a nuisance to
them. Thirty-five percent of those people are veterans. And so I think there's a, I've always said
this. I believed this my whole life. America has a crazy Christian problem. And at the
core of the crazy Christian problem are the magicultists. And these people have operated with impunity
with a sanctimony that they think they're on the moral high ground because all they have to do
is Christian signal. We're going to Bible study. Oh, we're doing this at the church and oh, we're
tithing here. And then behind the scenes, these are the ugliest punching down people on the
planet. Cruel to minorities, cruel to homeless people. And it's like,
How about some empathy for a person that is homeless?
It's really gross when you hear, like I think it was on Fox News.
One of those crazy guys was talking about, like, euthanizing homeless people.
It was insane.
And that guy still has his job.
He is still employed at Fox.
The cruelty has been so normalized and so mainstreamed, and they feel so protected because
these people that you're talking about, these types of Christians that wear the khaki pants
and the puffer vests, they.
they love to use their religion in two different ways as a weapon to weaponize against people.
Like we're morally superior and we don't like these trans people, these gay people, these black people.
And then when you call them out, it's a shield.
Oh my God, Christians are under attack.
Christianity is completely under attack.
I'm like, bitch, please.
Are you kidding me?
Especially you go to Oklahoma.
I mean, it's just like Bible dump truck galore.
That's right.
And it's really like I try to remove religion from, from,
many of it, really. And it's pretty basic. You just simply wake up in the morning and you be nice to people.
Kindness. If someone needs some help, maybe you offer it to them. You do something to help someone else.
And that's it. Whether you're a Christian, whether you're an atheist, whether you're a Buddhist,
it doesn't matter. It's really not that hard. And it shows you how many fucking awful mean people there are in the world.
And this administration has given everybody a free license, a free license to act this way.
Think about this, Josh and Pumps. If you look at the Bible Belt and you look at the politicians that they've elected, the government officials, these are the cruelest states imaginable. The politicians that these religious states elect are a reflection of their religious beliefs.
And they are also a testament to the fact that prayer doesn't work. Because these people pray nonstop 24-7 and all of the prayer.
in Oklahoma has driven us from 17th in education to 50th. And so if you look at these Bible Belt
states, it's just jaw-dropping how they elect the cruelest, meanest people right now in Oklahoma
in the gubernatorial primary on the Republican side, it is a race to the bottom. Who can out
crazy each other, who can be the meanest, who can be the cruelest, who can act like they love the
troops. They'll never vote for some homeless PTSD vets.
ever. They will never do it, but they'll lie to everybody and say they will.
I do want to point out, this reminded me when you said this, that if you remember we're in
a group me for our youngest son's basketball team, and they would have prayers before the
games in the group me, praying for the players. And we would go out and get our ass kicked
by 20 or 30 points by a team. And I think everybody said the prayers in the group, but we would
just get the shit kicked out of us.
Josh would say, I want to follow up and go, hey, we didn't show up for the prayer thing,
but it doesn't look like it's working.
They just got their ass beat.
Well, if it weren't.
We wouldn't have a gun problem in this country.
That's right.
So I would always be like, man, if we only said, you know, two or three more prayers, maybe,
four or five more prayers, then somehow we're more special than the other kids.
And we're going to get what we need.
But anyway, I digress.
All right.
I have some new stories to share with everybody.
By the way, welcome to I've had it.
I'm Jennifer.
I'm Angie.
And I'm Josh.
All right.
We have a story speaking of Maga Christians and their kindness and their great policy and their great outreach of empathy.
Maga is outraged over comedian Rami Yousef celebrating Arab American Heritage Month on Sesame Street.
It started when Sesame Street posted this video.
Let's play the clip.
Sanam al-a-a-com everyone.
I'm Rami Yusuf.
Oh, and Elmas, what does Salam-a-Lakam mean?
Well, Salam means peace, and it's a way to say hello in Arabic.
Oh, cool.
Oh, Salam-a-Lay-A-A-L-A-K.
Okay.
So obviously, to me, I think this is great.
Whether you like it or not, there are Arab-Americans who are Muslim that live here, that are citizens,
and there's nothing you can do about it.
You can be a dick.
Like, these responses right here, pop these up.
Ben Bergquam, America's real voice at RAV TV news.
Sad.
Sesame Street has fallen to the woke jihad mind virus.
And then another response.
Sally Jack 3 says, why does the U.S. have an Arab American Heritage Month
and not an English American Heritage Month when the English founded the country?
And then AI says there is no widely recognized or federally designated English-American
American Heritage Month in the United States, because we live that every day.
Every day.
You get shit, Sally Jack.
And then the last response, and this was all over the internet, Jewish American pirate says,
why is at Elma, at Elmo with a pro-Hamas, pro-Jihad, 9-11 lover comedian?
It's not very funny.
I miss Old Sesame Street.
What guest is next?
A bin Laden talking about planes at Sesame Street.
this type of Islamophobia is so normalized on the American right.
And it's, you have people like the ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, that excused Elon Musk giving two back-to-back, sick hiles.
And then they are laser focused on Zaraamam Dani because he's a Muslim.
I mean, it's just, it's such bullshit, these groups in the way they behave.
Muslim Americans are a part of America.
You can either be a dick like these three people here or maybe, I don't know, maybe mix
around a little bit.
Get out of your white cookie cutter neighborhood and mix around with people.
And it makes your life better.
We were at a party last night and I think it was majority Muslim people.
We had an absolute total blast, kind, normal, fun, interesting, lovely people.
But that would require you to number one.
be curious, openly curious about other people's cultures that's different than yours, to be
somewhat open-minded. I think that, you know, the past four years or six, eight years,
ten years, however long Trump's been with us, you've seen, I definitely think you've seen
this more out in the open style of racism, just blatant racism. And the only thing,
we talk about this a lot on this program, at least since I've done.
I've been here this week.
And the only thing that we can do is we have a responsibility, number one, to call it out and recognize it.
And then number two, to let other people know that, hey, we're not all like that.
Like, we're not.
And it's something that we take very serious.
And it's sad.
It's sad.
It's dog whistling.
And we all know people that do it.
We, that are like that, especially back home, you know, we're in the Bible Belt.
we see day to day how they marginalize trans kids, gay kids, you know, especially in small rural
towns.
It's sad.
And so we have an obligation to stand up for those people and tell them that, listen, this isn't
the norm.
When I say these people, I mean, these groups, this isn't the norm, and we're here to protect you.
And I think it's really cool that Elmo is, I thought that was a cool video.
Like, I love multiculturalism.
And I think it's enriching.
and a part of, like, great development to learn about different cultures and to learn different languages.
But Rami Yusuf responds to the backlash.
Let's hear his response.
Very emotional.
Actually, if you watch the clip, you can tell him, I can't believe it.
It's very surreal, you know, the entire time.
Some other people were emotional about it because it was not without controversy.
I had a look for you.
What?
I wish Sesame Street would stick to teaching kids about letters and numbers, Laura, and leave the Arabic immersion to someone else.
Next, Bert and Ernie will be praying five times a day on Sesame Street facing east.
So you seem to embrace this on Instagram.
What did you make of all this?
Well, you know, I feel for them, right?
Because, I mean, you guys were talking about it earlier.
I think they're worried, you know, he's saying Arabic immersion and it's got to be tough because I think they're supporters of the president.
So imagine your president on Easter is tweeting praise be to Allah.
And now, Elmo saying Habibi.
feels threatening.
It's over.
Yeah, that is so good.
Okay, so in the clip, in the Fox News clip, that Raymond Arroyo, who is seen in that clip,
previously criticized the Biden administration in 2021 for partnering with Sesame Street
to teach kids about child refugees.
In January 2024, Elmo posted a simple, how are you doing check-in on Twitter?
And Arroyo responded, saying it speaks to the arrested development that you see.
through the culture, mocking adults for pouring out their hearts to a puppet created for preschoolers.
And so Sesame Street has a history of teaching Spanish, of featuring prominent black actors.
And this is really problematic for these white supremacist, white nationalists.
And I think this is their final push.
And we need to ridicule and bully these people.
Think about this guy.
And think about Laura Ingram there.
Like you're triggered by Elmo saying, what do he say, Salam al-a-Qum?
Like that.
Or something.
That triggers you.
And then you got dipshit Trump over there talking about nuking an entire culture.
And that's just a free hall pass or grab them by the pussy.
Let's go vote for him.
And oh, he's in the Epstein files a million times.
Oh, that's fine.
We cover up for pedophiles.
These Maga Christians are a cancer in this country.
They are the most co-opted voting group on the planet.
Think about how insecure they must be in their belief system,
that they would be offended by someone saying this on Sesame Street.
That was a pretty benign comment.
And not to mention the fact that white Republicans dominate almost every piece of government in this country.
And so the thought that you're somehow threatened by something like that shows you shows you just how fanatical, radical these people are.
It's crazy.
It's also crazy that they're standing up saying we have to go do regime change in Iran because they're such religious zealots.
And we've got the Ten Commandments, you know, being required in schools.
Right.
But saying peace and Arabic is such a big deal for the freedom.
lovers. The freedom, don't tread on me. You know, we want to have the flag and all the
frames. It's the same people that ban books. And it's, you know, these are the same people that
think Miss Rachel is anti-Semitic. Why are all these people watching kids shows is what I want
to know first. And second, can you imagine turning on like a normal news? Let's say, you know,
ABC News and they break in with Elmo. Like this is not news. This is, we can't talk about Trump.
being in the Epstein files. We can't talk about Trump having incompetent people that kiss his ass all day and have no plan, global economy boom, bomb in Iran. We can't talk about that. So we've got to talk about Biden or Elmo. Like that should be a clue. And here's the deal. You're right, Jennifer. People dig it because punching down, that is clutch. I mean, when you said that, it just took me straight into my childhood, punching down.
That's right. Go ahead.
And think about you guys what a minefield, a television is for a conservative, for a MAGA Republican.
You turn on your television. You're triggered by Elmo. You've got to go on Lord Ingram.
And, you know, 9-1-1, all hands on deck. Elmo said, peace, be with you in Arabic.
Stage 5, Titty Baby Meltdown. Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, my God. Trigger City. These guys are the biggest
most fear-based
pussies I've ever seen in my life.
Need I mention,
bad bunny and the meltdown
that happened there.
Watching television
for a conservative male
has to be one of the more
terrifying experiences
that happens to them
throughout the day.
Because I would assume
a lot of these men
are probably in homo-social
environments all the time.
They're white guys
that are around other white guys
and that's where they feel
most comfortable
in these homo social relationships.
And then they turn on their television.
It's like, oh, my God, there's bad bunny.
And he's kind of hot.
And he's singing, oh, my God.
And then what's Elmo doing with this Muslim comedian?
And then, oh, my God, what are these women doing, twerking?
And could you imagine living your life that watching TV and operating your remote control
would be like a minefield?
No.
And this reminds us what is exactly at stake for the,
these midterms in the next presidential election, because if it's up to this regime, this government,
this president, this Congress, they want a white national Christian United States.
They got it. They got it right now. And they're still not enough, though. They don't want it.
You've seen the courts come in and say, hey, we're going to allow you to have the Ten Commandments now
in a school. So they're starting this. They're by no means finished. And so, I mean, once you see the
courts, and even some of the courts are jumping in and saying, you know what, we're going to get
behind this too. And you see Trump appointing all of these judges. And so the minefield is changing
from these intellectuals that would honor separation of church and state to these judges that are
just downright partisan Republican hacks that will do anything, compromise anything in the Constitution
to instill some form of national Christian form of government that would be even tighter than
what we see now. So that's what's at stake. When you go to the midterm elections, when you go to the
next presidential cycle, that's what we're fighting.
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these MAGA people, you know, these are very fear-based. These people are scared and triggered very
easily. And so when there's nothing for them to get mad at, because they have the House, they have
the Senate, they have the Supreme Court, you know, they got everything. They wanted their
president's doing everything I voted for this means, right? So then they go and create controversy.
And there's a Maga Troll named Riley Neamy. And he went to West Hollywood, which is a known
kind of gay area in Los Angeles, falsely claimed to be from CNN. And then he interviewed a gay
couple to tell them they were unfit to be parents while they had their baby with them.
Here's a video of the incident. Play the clip.
Your guys' son or daughter?
Son.
Awesome.
And are you guys a couple?
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Cool.
So have you ever heard about the statistics coming out that gay men are statistically
much more likely to commit child molestation?
No.
You've never heard about that before?
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Don't you think it's weird that you guys have a child but neither if you were a woman?
No.
You don't think that's weird?
No.
So you had a surrogate?
You paid a woman $50,000 to be pregnant?
Who are you?
And build an emotional.
connection to a baby.
Okay.
Don't take my mic, dude.
I'm actually concerned for your baby's, like, safety.
For you.
We are asking you to leave.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Okay, so not only is Nemi a raging homophobe, but also a white supremacist saying in a
podcast, quote, nobody wants to admit that the darker you get, the lower your IQ is going
to be.
And he goes on to say, if people don't think that the white race is superior or light-skinned
Asians are superior. I mean, that's just a fact. And then according to West Hollywood Online,
who interviewed the couple, Nemees group hurled insults like the F word towards them. And here's
something I want to say. Number one, it's a complete lie that gay people are, have a more tendency
to molest children. Look no further than the fucking Epstein files, all right? But this type of shit
is unbelievable to me. It's disgusting. It enrages me to my core and good on one of those dads who shoved
that guy. And so the couple has started to GoFund Me that's already raised over $100,000
because they've charged the dad who shoved the homophobic, racist pussy. And then he goes and presses
charges of this guy. And here is the text from their GoFundMe. Pop this up. And
As a gay couple with our newborn baby, we were targeted in a way that was deeply upsetting
and destabilizing for our family.
My husband and I have fought incredibly hard to build the life that we have today and to welcome
our baby into it, which makes this moment especially painful and overwhelming as a result.
My husband, David, is now facing a legal process and the cost of securing proper representation
is significant.
David is a devoted parent to our newborn baby in an incredibly important part of our lives,
Now, our focus is simply on keeping our family stable, supported, and together as we move
through this.
Josh, as a criminal defense lawyer and just a human being, how does that make you feel and
then talk about the legal implications for David?
Well, this is the first I've heard of this story, and I normally wouldn't want to give
some pieces shit like this, any sort of platform to talk.
But here I think it's important that you bring this up.
I first want to find, is this in Los Angeles?
Yes.
Yeah.
So I think we need to first, I would certainly reach out or be willing to help him find someone that would, I'm sure, assist him pro bono from the state of California in a case like this.
I mean, even in Oklahoma, if I had a case like this and someone did or said something like that, I mean, my defense would be simple.
It would be all you got was shut.
You should have had your fucking.
face knocked off.
Like you know, you're lucky that that's all you got.
And just get that in front of a jury or a prosecutor.
No one's got, I don't know what jurisdiction filed this, but this would be easy to get resolved.
And I'm sorry that both of them had to go through it with their child.
It's, you know, it's an ugly side of Trumpism is what it is.
That's exactly what it is.
And when we talk about what's at stake for the next.
two or four years, it's stuff like this getting worse and worse and worse. You know, that's,
that's not the country that we grew up in. We used to be able to disagree with people respectfully.
This stuff is different. The way that the Republicans are, or preaching this stuff is different.
There's a violent element to it. There's a racist element to it. And we see in Oklahoma, like we see,
in particular with a lot of trans kids. Like, there's a meanness and ugliness to the government-sponsored
conduct in our country right now.
And so back to your original question, I would certainly volunteer offline to look and see and
make sure this man has a competent lawyer and gets a step resolved.
We can talk more about that later.
Pumms, you grew up and a lot of your adult life around a lot of white people who have really
homophobic, horrific views about gay people.
does showing them something like this and seeing how ugly that is, does that change it?
Or is it just, no, they're going to go to hell and that's just, you know.
No, okay, just in thinking about it and applying it to family members, I think that that video would make them uncomfortable.
They would find fault with the person that went in and took it, took those questions and acted that way.
because when you see it, it's ugly.
It's so ugly.
But would it change their fundamental belief that they have a duty to spread Christianity
and, you know, homosexuality is the sin against God?
No.
But the one of-
Would they lean into, if they didn't have a baby, then they wouldn't have been confronted
like that.
Two men shouldn't have a baby.
No, I don't think so because it was so ugly.
And I think the whole, you know, we protect families.
We're pro-kid.
you know, all that, we, you know, the sanctity of life, I think it would be offensive that
they were accosted on a street with their newborn. I just think that would be, that, that would
be too awkward and, um, ugly and like crotch sweaty to see that. But, and I, I think they
wouldn't think that charges should be filed. Maybe. I'm going through my family right now. I just,
times the people I know that were in your circle, they would have a problem with two men having a
baby. And there's always a blame to, well, I mean, a lot of people, you know, if we as Christians just,
you know, we think marriage is between a man and a woman, that baby doesn't have a mom. And that guy
was just trying to, you know, point out to them and show an example that this baby doesn't have a
Mom, I can see that group piling on to this other narrative that two men shouldn't have a baby and when he asked those questions.
Because you're talking about schools and institutionalized homophobia where they teach marriages between a man and a woman.
And I mean, it's a big, big, huge part.
I think the duplicity would still be there.
No question.
the way that was handled would be on the interviewer because it would be too embarrassing and
awkward and ugly to rubber stamp that.
But it wouldn't, so it'd be duplicitous in how you'd handled it.
Yes, that was wrong.
It shouldn't happen.
But yeah, two men probably shouldn't have a baby.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just going to say those two dads, in my opinion, are a million times better fathers
than all of the white Christian conservative parents that I encountered raising my kids in Oklahoma City.
Not Christian like people, but mega-church, white Christian people, those two dads are going to give that baby a much better childhood without the indoctrination, the hate, the permission structure to be an asshole than any of the, you know, all those crazy Christian.
schools in Oklahoma. I mean, Josh would always say, I don't want my kids hanging out with those kids.
Yeah, I was getting ready to re-up that. It's like back in Oklahoma, if you said I come from a good
Christian family, our kids could not spend the night at your house. That's the way we think about
people like that. Like we see it up close. The hate is real. It's real. When our son, when our
youngest son would play these Christian schools and I would walk into these Christian schools and I knew
the parents had signed all of these homophobic, you know, marriage things. I physically felt ill.
I knew I was embarking in like a KKK grounds. I mean, I knew that there was a structural
permission structure to hate, particularly LGBTQ plus people. That is just hardwired into all of that
education. And they feel very justified in attacking. Josh and I were to fundraiser. We co-host a
fundraiser the other night for Glad. And Sarah Kate, the president of Glad, is this amazing
woman. And she stood up and spoke about the attacks that that community is under right now. And
it's just very, very real. And that guy felt so emboldened to do that. And it's popped off on MAGA
supporting that guy because this shit tracks. They love to hate on gay and trans people. It's so sad.
And I will say this too in my work and what I see in a lot of rural small towns, there's a lot of young African-American kids that are just subjected to just outright.
Right-to-day, racism in small white communities where they're called the N-word every other day or they're called a monkey or they're called something every single day.
And then that child has to come home and see his or her parents and process that.
And then a lot of times you have a school that doesn't protect you.
It's, I mean, we all, it's easy to think that this thing isn't as bad as it is.
But when you get up close in it, especially in the criminal justice system, it's 10 fucking times worse than you think it is when you get up in it.
Oh, sorry.
No, go ahead.
No, because my kids went to a Christian school.
And I can tell you, it's there.
The racism, the cruelty.
It's the superiority.
that you don't even recognize the cruelty because you believe you're superior and that it's
your right, like your divine right almost. And critical thinking is not taught.
Like, don't you think it's just your normal? Like, it's just your normal. Like, yeah. That's all
these people know. Noah and the arc. I just thought, okay, that's what happened. Because I never
questioned it. Because I was never taught to question it. I didn't have critical thinking skills.
So you just, it's just, you're like on a hamster wheel, generation after generation after generation,
unless you stop it.
And those Christian school kids, they, that's where you hear the N-word the most.
That's where you hear the F-slur the most.
That's where you hear all of it.
That's where it all lives.
My kids would inevitably go play with some kids that went to the all-Christian school and
then come home.
And it was always, oh my God, these kids' mom, I mean, they just say the N-word.
They say the F slur.
They say, I mean, they just knew like, wow, this is a completely different type of people than what we are around.
And this shit lives and breathes there.
And this video of this guy, it is, MAGA loves this.
They like this.
As outraged as we all are, this, it sticks the landing in the MAGAverse.
Okay, let's move on to billionaire bashing.
Oh, my favorite.
All right. The 26 Met Gala is coming up. And as a person who loves fashion and attractive people,
what I say? I'm shallow and vapid and all those things. But I think I like to look at attractive people and great clothes.
That's why she liked less as we're attractive. Exactly. So I always liked looking at all of the images,
whether before, back in the day, it was like People magazine or Us Weekly. And that now it would be like Instagram at the Met Gala. But in the face of Trump 2.0, the
disgusting wealth on display and what little conviction these billionaires have, like Jeff Bezos,
it really, like, it's been so stomach turning to me.
Like, I really, before it'd be like, I'd hear people on the far left go, I hate billionaire.
I was like, oh, what do you care?
You know, like, whatever.
Now I get it.
I totally get it because they're disgusting exploiters.
So Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez are desperate to be cool kids.
Desperate.
little did they know. All they had to do was just be decent people and resist fascism. But instead,
of course, they've been the Dina Trump launching rockets and he is now going to be like the co-host
or the leader of the Met Gala. And so pop up this headline. A billionaire circus, Met Gala,
quietly slashing costs as it struggles to sell out amid surrounding Jeff Bezos and
Lauren Sanchez's involvement. And here's an excerpt from the article. The Met Gala was once the
hottest ticket in town, but the shine is fading fast with prices being slashed as tables
struggle to sell for the 2026 ball radaronline.com can reveal. Some of the lack of interest
stems from disgust at Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos and his wife Lauren Sanchez,
serving as honorary co-chairs and lead financial sponsors of the event.
while lead chairperson and primary host, Anna Winter is fighting to keep the Met Gala relevant
in rapidly changing times. And I love this for all of them. I love that this is going to be
humiliating to have your picture taken there. I think that this needs to be, this is a time
for people of all walks alive, famous, not famous, rich, poor, middle class, you know, to
stand up and believe in something. This administration is being propped up by fascist oligarchs like
Jeff Bezos who are funding ice shit, who have given Trump a permission structure, who exploit their
employees. So I love it when bad things happen to bad people. I do too. You know what I love
is that Lauren Sanchez, after her, I have thought so much about that article about her, like,
we get up and we do our gratitude.
Like, I've thought about that.
And I'm just like, you could not waterboard that information out of me.
Like if my husband and I got up and we just fucking gross.
Okay, whatever.
And that she's so victimized.
I'm enjoying being a billionaire.
Name me, all these billionaires should enjoy life.
They have everything they fucking want.
So my favorite thing about that whole article that you just read right here is that they have to read it, that they have to know that people are boycotting them.
I loved it for Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez when they did their rocket thing.
And it's like, it's 20 seconds in space and we're empowering women.
It's like everybody was like, shut the fuck up.
If you want to empower women, fucking get off Trump's dick and spend money like your ex-wife, Jeff Bezos, you piece of shit.
So I fucking love this for them.
This makes me happy.
So it's going to get better for you, Pumps here, because pop up this next headline.
calls for MetGala boycott after Jeff Bezos foots the bill brought to you by worker exploitation.
This year's Met Gala is being funded by the Amazon founder and his wife, Lauren Sanchez Bezo.
And then here's a photo, boycott, the Bezos Met Gala, brought to you by the firm that powers ice.
And so this is a really important form of.
resistance and it's bigger than just beautiful people that have money in designer clothes. It's bigger than
that. It is a cultural awakening that so many people in capitalism are completely swept over. They get up
and they do everything right. They get up. They make breakfast. They go to work. They drop their kids at
school or their kids, you know, take the bus to school. They get back home. Medical bills, dental bills,
child care bills, and they can't get ahead because these billionaires exploit their labor,
and we have a entire country that assumes, and we give these billionaires something they
haven't earned. Oh, Jeff Bezos must be so smart and so amazing because he's so rich.
And really, he's just a total piece of shit. There's nothing unique or great about Jeff Bezos,
probably as boring and probably a terrible like
I betcha Zizzo's so fucking happy that she is away from him
and she's probably like Lauren you have at it
you can have it pump chump you know I mean I bet it's just so I love this
I think it's a really important time for all of us to think about
how we have and I still think we all get to like nice things
we don't get not everything has to be ruined for us but this grotesque
parade of wealth when there's so much suffering in the richest country. People don't have
health care or can't afford child care. It's really gross. I don't know that it's necessarily
wealth as much as it is what you do with your wealth. And Jeff Bezos is obviously not a good
example for people. But the thought, I have a pretty strict rule I try to adhere to. And if you're
a white Christian with a lot of money and you're a Republican, I just don't spend
any time with you. Period. In their story, much less get dolled up. And also I find them very,
very uninteresting, you know, if you're having to talk to him. So I don't think that it's going to
be any skin off our back to skip the Met Gallo. Yeah. No. Yeah, we've never been.
Okay, hold on. He won't put taxes, but how much do you think he's bankrolling this Met Gallo for?
I mean, who knows? I mean, it's probably a job change to him.
It would be chump change.
If it's $10 million, if it's $20 million, it has zero impact on Jeff Bezos's bottom line.
I mean, the larger issue here is when you have Anna Wintour who famously wouldn't allow Melania Trump on the cover of Vogue during Trump 1.0.
And you see this slow capitulation by so many people that have so much privilege and could really be leased.
leaders and fighters for democracy and for the systems that made Jeff Bezos successful,
the systems that made Ana Wintour successful. And you see them grotesquely been the need of this.
It is moral collapse on full display. I think we need to do brand damage to the Met Gala.
I think that anything that Jeff Bezos is associated with where he's trying to
wash his fascist, you know, rot that he has on him. You know, when you hear about, they call it
sports washing with Saudi Arabia. They're investing in golf and they're investing in these tennis
matches. But they're still, like, these are the people that ground, like put a human being
in acid, decatab, like dismembered him, Jamal Khashoggi, and then poured him down the drain.
And I just don't think the ruling.
class, the oligarchs, or the Democratic ruling class, the Republican ruling class, has
any idea how disgusted the American public is with these people. And Josh, you have a really good
point. Somebody like McKenzie, the wife of Jeff, she can't give it away fast enough. And it's
always to marginalize people, mills on wills, black universities, et cetera. I want to say
one thing, too, because even some of the liberal elitists that are wealthy that run in these
circles, and we mentioned Anna Wintour.
If they're not a part of the day-to-day fabric of this culture and what's taking place in this country,
it's easy to lose sight of who you're associating with and what you're supporting.
Even though you come from a place of goodness, you become somewhat complicit by agreeing to do
these events or associating yourself with brands like this, because you're not part of the
day-to-day grind. You're not getting your nose in it every day because you're in a penhouse in
Manhattan. You're not in Paul's Valley, Oklahoma. So keep in mind, keep that in mind. Think about
that. Like this stuff, the incident you showed with the gay couple and their child, all the stuff
we see where we're from, like this stuff is real. And when you associate with someone like Jeff
Bezos or someone in Trump's administration or you agree.
to appear at something, you become complicit in that.
You become part of the problem, even if you come from a place of goodness,
even if you're a liberal, a staunch liberal,
who believes in equal rights for all people.
And it's easy to forget that.
We're here to remind you.
Yeah, and I just think it's interesting that, like, at one point,
Anna Wintour used her privilege and the brand she had built at Vogue for, like,
no, I'm not putting on the cover, Melania Trump. I'm not doing that. I'm not bending the
knee to these human rights, whether it's whatever her reasons were. And then now she's able to do it.
And I think that's something that a lot of people are going to have to answer for. It's a quick,
impulsive thing in this moment to do. But this moment that we're in right now isn't going to last
forever. So let's fast forward to four or five years. Five years ago, what was it, 2021? We'd just come out of COVID.
but that didn't seem like that long ago.
So five years from now, we're all going to be in a completely different place.
But what these people did during this time will remain.
And there is a historical record of all of the people who just, I want to feel good right now this second.
And I'm going to let Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez in and say, you know what, Jeff Bezos, fucking pay your people.
How much goddamn money do you need?
Instead of bending the need of Trump, you know, demand structural change.
It's just, it's really disgusting.
I will say there's, what's his name, Warren Buffett, he was talking about taxes the other day.
And like if you tax the rich, if the rich paid their fair share in taxes, none of us would even have to pay taxes.
Really?
I was going to say Jeff Bezos could hire a bunch of bots to go to this event.
Couldn't he just pay a bunch of bots, some of these mega bots and have them attend?
Okay, but here's some good news.
Mayor Mondani and his wife have declined the invite to attend.
the Met Gala this year, breaking a long-standing tradition for New York City mayors,
sites that his focus right now is on affordability. And so I think the dam is kind of breaking,
and good on him. He just consistently, the mayor shows that he is for the people,
that he is going to fight for working class people. And this takes me back to kind of the start
of this episode where we're talking about these maggot Christians. The Muslim mayor, Zoran Mamdani,
fights for trans people, fights for gay people, fights for poor people, fights for homeless people,
humanizes people. And to me, he acts more Christ-like than all of the Christians at every
mega church I ever met in Oklahoma combined.
Exactly.
Zoran Mamdani does. The Muslim who, I just have to say to white America, you need to accept it.
Muslims are here. They live here. We have Muslim American citizens. And they're not going anywhere. They're not. They are Americans.
Couldn't agree more. And it circles back to our point.
I don't think Zoran were khakis in a vest. Do you?
Unless he was trying to.
I don't see him doing that, do you?
No, he's far too. Like, he's got too big of an it factor for the.
that. He's always in a suit and tie. He's always dead. Always. What a smart, you know,
the MetGala, it just sort of exudes excessiveness. And so what a smart decision. I mean,
it's by far the right decision. At a time when people are hurting as much as marginalized groups
are hurting and your day-to-day citizens are hurting to be a part of something that's so
excessive and wasteful with a group of people like that. And so,
So kudos to the mayor, who I got to meet last night, by the way.
Yeah.
Isn't it great?
Yes, fantastic.
It's just, it's really good.
When politicians make us better people and they set an example that makes us better,
that's a really important component to it.
And, you know, there's nothing about Ted Cruz or Lindsay Graham's that makes one person on the planet better.
Not one thing they say or one thing they does is helpful or promotes any sort of
goodness. But Zoron and progressive people, like him saying, I'm not going to the Met Gala, it makes
you stop and think, God, it is pretty. I mean, people are suffering. Jeff Beza sucks. Trump sucks.
It is pretty grotesque. He would be a hypocrite if he went. It makes you think. And I think that's a
really good politician. I will say this. Ted Cruz's Cancun video did add a lot of joy personally to my life
for a long period of time. So he has contributed something positive.
out into the universe by allowing us to see him stampeding to the airport during the fucking
hurricane.
All right.
I think that's all we have.
Do I do my book here too?
Okay.
All right.
Listen.
Let's hear it.
Listen, I wrote a book.
I've been busy at it for about the last six months.
It will, it's going to print, but I have a sneak copy here.
It's called Not Today Fascist, which is what everybody that's going to go to the Met Guller,
should say, not today, fascist. You can pre-order it with the link in our bio. It will come out in
October, but please, please, pre-order it so that I don't have to go on.
