I've Had It - Nepo Baby-in-Chief

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

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So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready, one, two, three. Patriots, gay, they triots, black triots, brown triots. And we support all of these people and those that don't can. Fuck off! That's our form of patriotism, pumps, impersonating an eagle. It used to be cacao. Right, but then we had a brilliant listener that said, hey, why not change that?

change it. Pumps, what's been going on? What have you had it with? Okay, I'll tell you what I've had it with. I've had it when you call a business and you get the one, two, three, you know, your choices of what to do. Okay, I'm used to that. We've been doing that forever. Now, last night I called a business. I went through the circle jerk of picking the buttons. I had to talk to AI for 15 minutes. And when I finally got a person, it took less than two minutes to solve my problem. And I just thought, if AI is supposed to be so efficient, why did it take me 15 minutes? I had to spell everything. I don't know if it was my accent. But I just, when I call a business that I'm paying, I'm paying this business. I've already paid. I just feel like I should get a person. I think this

is going to be occurring a lot. They say that with AI, you know, breaking through right now, that a lot of jobs are going to be eliminated. And just the human contact is going to further, I mean, a larger psychological impact of that is, like, how frustrated you were. So frustrated. And then you finally got to speak to a person is how detached and disconnected we're all becoming. And all of these technological advances don't bring us together, but further exacerbate the disconnectedness. Absolutely. Like the isolation. Yeah. And all the technology just further exacerbates it. Like I spend increasingly more time on my phone and I don't like it. I never feel good about it. Like there's so many times during the day where I'm like, put your fucking phone down, Jennifer.

Just put it down. You do not have to be on a social media app. You do not have to be consuming news. This is new in your life. It's not like for our children. That's all they've known. in our life you picked up a book you turned on the TV you took a dog for a walk like I don't feel good when I spend that much time with artificial intelligence or with a device I completely agree and I find myself even on days where I'm like I am not getting on my phone today I'm not doing it I'm not getting on social media I'm going to do the whole day it's like it starts gnawing at me and I can't help it it's almost like a addiction thing well well what's going on they say that um the algorithms have been rigged and they've done like exams on brains and it affects you know like a drug does like the algorithms

are intentionally addictive and then we're in the situation where if we had a normal government where we were focusing on safety we could have conversations in Congress about regulations for this new technology how do we regulate it how do we keep kids safe they're doing this in Europe. I read an article that Emmanuel Macron, the French president, has made phones illegal for those. I believe the age was 13. I might be getting that wrong. Somebody can fact check it. But they were going to say, you cannot have a phone if you're under this age because they're valuing safety. And these phones further isolate people. I read this whole article about this guy that fell in love with an AI chatbot. Like, had an affair on his wife. The wife got jealous.

and he thought the robot left him. And the thing is, he knew it was a robot. I know. It's like the catfishing, at least you think it's a person. He knew it was AI. I know. I know. All right, let me share with you all what I've had it with.

For new listeners, I want you to know very much that I love my husband, Josh. I do. I also want you to know that we have a relationship where we do not have to superficially praise each other, it's not a surface relationship. If I'm doing, if I'm being too bossy or too, if I'm not being warm or cold, he calls me out on it. And I'm fine with that. And likewise, I call him out on a lot of his character defects. And one of his character defects is that he has hypochondriac. I diagnosed him. My husband is a hypochondriac. And this, It has been something that my sons and I talk about all the time.

Nobody takes it for real because he's always got some ailment. Long-time listeners, you'll know about Josh's hole in his ear and he went to have surgery on the ear to have it repaired. And the doctor on the phone told me, I hope he got his ear. I hope I got his ear the way he wants it, which is like what I picture a plastic surgeon saying to somebody about an elective surgery. So now he's moved on to these tension headaches. And as we're sitting around the house, you just see him, he goes like this.

So, listener, what I'm doing is I'm squinting my eyes and I'm putting my fingers on my temples. And so I took some notes of the conversation that we had the other day for you guys. So he told me, you know, these tension headaches are really bothering me. And the tension headaches were what he had, the first symptom that left. led him to the ear surgery. Oh. Okay. So, and I said, I thought the ear was going to fix that.

And he said, no, I thought the ear was going to fix it too, but apparently they were unrelated. And so he tells me that he has an appointment with a neurologist to have some sort of brain scan. And I said, why are you getting a brain scan? Like, sometimes the body just has like, I'll get a headache and it'll last like an hour. but you just have to have the ability to push through it. The body sometimes ails and aches, and that's just a part of it. And he said, sometimes my memory doesn't work well. And I'm like, you're 56 years old.

This is a very common thing for somebody your age. And he said, well, I'm going to the doctor and I'm having it. And then he says to me, I am proactive. And I feel that the health care in the United States isn't preventative. and I intend to be preventative and I am making my own path because what they're doing is, oh, you're okay. This is what he says to me, Josh, you're okay, you're okay, you're okay, and the next thing you know, I've got stage five cancer in a week to live.

And he is proactive and he is preventing this from happening. Some of his other symptoms that he told me is that he has veins, that bulge in its temples like he's really he's works out all the time he is really lean now he does the creatine and all this bro style weightlifting right which you know good for him workout and I said judge it's because you've gotten thinner and you're older so your face is thinner and so you have that's why the veins popping has nothing to do with the tension headaches I'm not a doctor but I see these veins on people every day all day he said he thought that he had gray matter in his brain and he was going to get to the bottom of it because the U.S. health care system is failing him

and he intends to be preventative. And then he just threw in, after I'm questioning him about all this, that he was going in for an additional hearing test this week. Again? Yeah, he's going in for another hearing test. Okay, I have one question. Correct me if I'm wrong. But didn't he originally before the ear surgery, he went and demanded like a cat scanner MRI?

So this is additional. This is an additional, a new doctor, an additional exam. And then he also has a doctor that provides she is a concierge doctor. She's very nice. I know her. And this, I said to him, don't you think you're the ideal page? for a doctor that has this type of service, you're paying a fee outside of insurance and then you can get in the same day when you call her. And then she just basically refers people like

Josh to other doctors. You know, she's like a springboard, if you will. She absorbs the initial hypochondriac response and then she just rifles it out. And Josh can be really self-deprecating. He goes, oh, 100%. Right. I'm like a goddamn slot machine for this woman. And so he had the ear exam this week. And our longtime listeners will know that I don't ask follow-up questions about a lot of these things. And some of you new listeners might be like, oh, that's so cold and callous. It is my mental health protection not to feed what I perceive to be as hypochondria running amok. And so that's what I'm.

living with right now is this increased hypochondria. And I also want to add on his medical team is chat GPT. And they've spent quite a bit of time together for his new mantra of being preventative. Well, I was going to ask you if he does like WebMD, like where is he getting all this? But that makes perfect sense. Chat GPT is very sycophantic. Right. You know, like I'm, he could, he could prompt it, I'm very worried about these headaches that I have. And I have these veins bulging and blah, blah, blah. Well, it's going to say, I'm not a doctor, but you should go see one. Of course. You should be concerned. And so I, you know, the problem that's going to happen here at some point, because he's not a spring chicken, is he's going to have something real at some point.

You know, not fake hearing loss or normal bodily functions. headaches that people have, he's going to have something real. And I think I'm going to be like nurse ratchet demonic. I just, I can't imagine a world where I'm going to be really a good supportive partner or nurse after the years of hypochondria that I've gone through. Okay, number one, you are nurse ratchet. You are going to be nurse ratchet. But I give you credit that if he were really genuinely sick, you would absolutely be equal to the task. I don't have a doubt in my mind about that. Thank you, Pimes.

Okay, but a couple follow-ups. Okay. For our new listeners, you might think Jennifer sounds cold-hearted. But let me tell you, this is a man that stayed home from work because of earwax. So we're not talking about real ailments. But in his defense, you don't go to the doctor unless you're dying. and you are a nurse ratchet but it's true it's true i mean it's like this yin and yang situation um uh it really is but the um josh we can as this sounds we have we're as we're

as we're having these conversations we're both dying laughing right like he's laughing as i say you think you have gray matter to chat gpT let you want on this and he's he's dying laughing about it at the same time and just a little history for listeners he is a recap drug addict. It's been to rehab. He's sober now. And I have a personal theory. And so maybe somebody in the comment section that is a psychiatrist or a doctor or knows about the way the brain functions, that someone in recovery, like he was primed, if something's wrong, take a pill. If something's wrong, take a pill. I don't feel good. You know, that's just his default setting as an addict. And so when something's wrong, like a normal bodily

you know, a stomach ache, a headache. He doesn't have the ability to just power through that because his default setting for so long was self-medication. And so that's why I think the problem, I think he's spot on with the neurologist that the problem lies between the ears. I think we just need to advance it to a psychiatrist. Right. I think we're going to the wrong brain specialist. Maybe if he goes and we have the cat scan and where there's no gray matter, no dementia, no hearing loss, all of the things that he has built up in his head, we can get to a psychiatrist that tells him, you have hypochondria. You are a hypochondriac.

And here's the deal. Josh would laugh about it. He would and I'm just going to say, I'm a sore winner. Oh, you are the, okay, let me tell you a couple things about Jennifer Welch. she is one of the most gracious losers you will ever meet she is kind she is supportive completely i mean 10 out of 10 on a gracious loser but there is nobody that is a worse terrible winner you just need to mesh the two and just be okay at both because I would give you five stars no notes, 10 times out of 10, on losing.

The smug, horrible way in which you take a victory lap is diabolical. It's awful. It's awful. Let me tell you what I did the other day at pickleball. This is just so fucked up. And I couldn't help myself. So I'm with Liz, Amy, and Trish. And you know these people well.

Listen, these are really good friends of mine. And we're playing pickleball, having very competitive points. and Liz hits this ball like at an angle in the kitchen. And listen, our kitchen means it's like super close to the net. I'm back behind the baseline. I haul ass because I am not going to lose that point. I haul ass.

I get the ball and I'm trying to get it behind the person at the net in the corner, behind her partner in the corner. And usually this is something I'm going to botch. I'm going to hit the net or it's going to go out. Those are the two options. I hit it up and it curate. right in and hits the back line. And I stand there and I look at where it hit and I look over at my friends and then I scream at the top of my lungs in chicken and pickle in Oklahoma City.

Vamos! Like I'm at goddamn Roland Garros. It was ridiculous. It was insufferable. It was I mean, we're not even at the Olympics. These are four middle-aged women playing pickleball at chicken and pickle in Oklahoma City. And I'm acting. like I just want a grand slam. It's awful. It's a terrible character defect. Well, but one of just very few character defects. Oh, I'm sure too sweet.

Okay, but I will say you're also a twat. Yeah. Because we're on the phone the other night and she goes, oh my gosh, I have an ear update on Josh. And I'm like, oh my gosh, tell me, tell me. You had held it for three days. Because I wanted to share it with you and the listener at the same time. And I think it's more fun for the listener to hear your.

initial laugh because if I desensitized your laugh three days ago, then the listener, our listeners enjoy your laugh. I would have been depriving our listeners from your virgin laugh in response to that. I did it for, I did it for the listener. Okay, but I'm still saying you're twat. I'm still a twat. I'm a twat. I never brought it at. I'm a twat. I'm a sore winner. I'm a lot of, there's a lot of character defects here. A lot, bossy. I just spilled water on myself. Thanks for, you know, letting us to be all right, me, ma. All right. Kyle, welcome to I've had it.

I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie, HBIC. Beaver stands for, or B stands for Beaver, not bitch. I think you should be the bitchy beaver. The bitchy, HBB, I see. Kylie. Yes. I've got a quick two reviews for you.

Okay. This one is five stars titled Kaka Gaytriots, Thetriots and Patriots from S. Willer. And they write, this podcast has brought me back to life. Like many Americans, I have found I hip. from social media during Kank's abomination of a second term and now a regular listener of this and IHit News. I'm so thankful for the witty banter and truth telling that you've been giving us as a fortunate soul that lives in a blue state but who came from a red state your northern neighbor Kansas I see your

message as a bat signal to the rest of the blue dot listeners I feel hope from your episodes and that you are both strengthening the revolution against authoritarianism thank you I mean that's just really nice that's a great one witty banner. I love that. Yeah. Yeah, that's just, you know, listener, I think about this a lot. Pumps and I talk about it a lot. Imagine being Kylie or Seth, you walk into the office and Pumps and I are here. And it's like, hi, good morning. And then we come up and film and they have to watch that and, you know, switch the cameras while we're filming like she's doing right now the viewer can see. Then it doesn't end. No. Pumps and I go out to lunch and then come back and she's sitting

in front of the computer staring at us. Listening. Yeah. Listening. I mean, they listen to us all day. There's not a bank account big enough for that job. I think it'd be the worst job on the planet. I have dreams about, all I do is dream about you guys at this point.

Are they bad? It's just y'all talking or it's like just us at work. Here's the thing you deny that it drives you crazy and that bugs me because it would have to drive you crazy. Thankfully, I like you guys. So that helps. I like you too, Kylie. But I don't want to hear you talk 24-7 and then have to do it on a repeat and do all that.

I mean, I just think that's normal. Yeah. Well, I'm desensitized to you guys as well, I think. Yeah, it's probably right. It's at the other. Yeah, I get that. Okay, let's move on to some new stories. There's been a naughty guinea pig pumps.

A male guinea pig named Randy, broke into a female-only enclosure and impregnated all of them. The incident took place at a pet sanctuary in the UK where staff were stunned by the unexpected population boom. Randy reportedly fathered more than 100 offspring after his late night adventure sparking both laughter and disbelief online. While funny on the surface, the story also highlighted how quickly small animals can reproduce under the right circumstances. Randy's Escapade left the shelter with a much bigger family than they had planned. And didn't you say when you were younger that you wanted your husband's name to be Randy? Yes, Randy. That's immediately what I thought. Like that could

have been my randy my randy talk about uh i just that's a lot of getting picks all right speaking of hypochondria i could see my husband doing something like this okay this is wild patient leaves dr four-star review despite saving their life you would totally do okay that's the headline in the second slide the four-star is dr lewis saved my life and then dr lewis chimes in honestly don't know how to earn that fifth star. What does he want? I guarantee you that this person whose life was saved is a hypochondriac. Or do you think they wanted like, maybe they went in for a nose job because they really needed it, not like a rhinoplasty, and they didn't come out looking like Brad Pitt. He just said saved my life. Well, you can, you know, you can die from a nosebleed. You can bleed out

from a noseblee. I didn't know that, Todd was an adult. I'm reading that, though, that that's like it was a life-saving emergency, like that this surgery saved the person's life. Yeah, maybe it is a hypochondriac. I can see Josh getting life-saving heart surgery and being like, I don't love the way they did my heart. Or I don't, the scar wasn't great. No, 100% I can see Josh doing that. Yeah, so I think the person that wrote it is probably a hypochondriac because hypochondriacs, like they doctor shop and they shop for the diagnosis that they want. I told Josh, I said, you know in all of your files, it's like, we've got a hypochondriac here.

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to blow the whistle he's like a great dancer I don't know if we can say this but we always end up I think when you become middle age you kind of just openly objectify people and I just want to point out that he's very attractive. Very attractive. I've also noticed he's very attractive.

It's nice when you support people and they're also easy on the eyeballs. And I mean that in the most respectable way. Right. Can pop out a great eight count, easy on the eyeballs and a fierce fighter for democracy, this man. So let's welcome to I've had it. Combat veteran, former businessman, and Maryland sports fanatic, Governor Wes Moore. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my goodness. Did you hear us talking about how hot we thought you were? I didn't. Say it again. You know, I think that we have to make that okay. Right. I think it's okay to give somebody a compliment.

I think you're attractive, Wes. I think that's an okay thing to say. I think, yeah. Well, listen, I think y'all are beautiful, and I'm so excited to be with you. Like, this is exciting for me. And I'm going to get all the bragging points now with all my friends. This is good. Oh, I love it.

I love it so much. So it's been very difficult being an American lately. And we live in a red state. And so people in red states, red dots and blue states always look outside of their state for, I'm like, I kind of want him to be my governor. Oh, yeah. You kind of adopt a gov. Yeah. So lately, I've totally been adopting you.

And I have to say, I really appreciate how kind you are to elders. And I thought how nice it was of you to all. offer Donald Trump, who sometimes has a problem walking in a straight line, a golf cart to go tour your cities. I thought that was so nice. And that's the kind of leadership I want to see being nice to elders. I just want to make sure that he's that he's comfortable, you know, that he has no excuses as to why he can't come through.

And, you know, and I just found the whole thing so ridiculous when, you know, he was continue to talk about how I'll come to your city. you know when you clean it up it's just like it's literally having a conversation with like archie bunker and so and so that's why i was like listen you know if you if you actually cared if you were tracking if you this was actually a serious issue for you the way it's a serious issue for us like when i came on board i said listen there is nothing that i won't do to make sure that our communities are more safe because we had an absolute crime and violence crisis in our state when I first came on board. Baltimore City was averaging almost a homicide a day

when I became the governor, a homicide a day, and that we had the non-fatal shooting rate had doubled in the state of Maryland under my predecessor, Republican Larry Hogan, and he did nothing to be able to address the issues that were taking place not just in Baltimore, but the violence that was taking place all across the state. And so when we came on board, We literally said there is no higher priority than I have than to make sure that our children are going to be safe in their neighborhoods and that people can be safe in their communities. And so we made historic investments in local law enforcement, historic investments in technology, historic investments in community violence intervention groups and making sure that we were the only state, one of the only states that actually helps to fund the U.S. attorney out of state balance sheet. So I can move many of those crimes, those gun crimes as federal crimes because they're treated very, very differently than when they're state crimes. So we've been really creative.

And then so to hear Donald Trump, you know, continually talk about, you know, clean up your streets and all this kind of stuff without having any idea about how much work has happened, how much momentum has happened in our state. Maryland's had amongst the fastest drops in violent crime anywhere in the United States of America. And we're actually serious about knowing the fact that we have more work to do. But it would be really nice if we had a serious partner in the White House instead of someone who's just saying, hey, kids, keep off my lawn. Yeah. And don't you think that like I always feel like when he goes after mayors and cities, they always tend to be your color of skin, not mine. And my state has a pretty high crime rate. And Mississippi has a pretty high crime rate.

And Louisiana has a pretty high crime rate. But when they talk about inner cities, the right wing, there is this suggestion to the Fox News audience exactly what they're talking about. But I read this article about the mayor of Baltimore and the work that he's been doing inner city-wise in conjunction with you. And it doesn't even hit the national news. Can you share with us about that? It's really a massive American city success story that shows. that blue policy works. Blue policies make the economy better. Blue policies fight crime. And blue policies make everyone safer. It's so true. And honestly, it's it's partnership and coordination

that actually matters. Because, you know, sometimes you have to remind people that when I first came on board, like I mentioned, Baltimore is averaging almost a homicided day. The inner harbor, the downtown area in Baltimore, was in receivership. The Baltimore Orioles were months of from losing their lease and having the Baltimore Orioles potentially go to another city. We had over 17,000 vacant homes in the city of Baltimore alone, vacants. And so we had a very real challenge, but what we had was a mayor who had a vision. A mayor who actually had the instincts and the ideas, someone who was born of Baltimore, raised in Baltimore, and believed in Baltimore.

But what he never had was a partner. You know, asked the mayor how many times he met, with the former governor. Ask the mayor how many conversations he had in the former governor's office about what is the future of Baltimore, where literally the Republican Larry Hogan literally drew a map of Maryland without Baltimore in it. So when we came on board, we said that is not going to be our posture. And people said, you know, of course you'd focus on Baltimore. You're from Baltimore. Or of course you'd help the mayor. You're the only black governor in the country. And I said, no, the reason that I focus on supporting Baltimore is because I'm really good at math.

It's the state's largest city. And tell me a single state that is clicking on all cylinders when the state's largest city is not. And so his push of saying that we have to have more community engagement and community involvement, the push that we have done together to say we are going to make historic investments in education and housing and transportation because if people have opportunity, then they generally don't go into crime. The push that we've had on making sure there's increased accountability, but also increased opportunities for those who are returning back from prison as well so we can stop this revolving door of recidivism that we continue to see. So I'm very proud to have Brandon Scott, the mayor of Baltimore, as my partner inside the work.

I'm very proud that we're working with county executives all across the state of Maryland. And I'm very proud that you're now seeing some of the best results, some of the fastest drops in violent crime and property crime that we're seeing anywhere in America. in the state of Maryland. And it's because we've actually chosen to work together. Okay. We like to ask our guests what they've had it with. And this is an opportunity for you to just, you know, something every day petty. So Governor Westmore, what have you had it with? There are so many things I've had it with. And so let me start. Sizing of clothes. And here's why. Because it's like, listen, I'm a person who, you know, every morning at 6 a.m., I'm up with the midshipman. And I work out with the Naval Academy, you know, every single morning.

And so, so we, so, you know, we really get after it and I really enjoy it. And so I enjoy being out there, you know, I'm a combat veteran. So it's just something that I've just consistently taken where I wake up early and one of the first thing I'm doing, I'm sweating. First thing to morning, right? And but clothes kind of don't work that way for people, you know, it's like it's small and it's too small. And then it's like, it's like large. And then it's just like it's like a trash. bag on you. And like I love how like for for for I just wish that for men's clothes like we have like

like like a smearum. It's so true. One of my grievances that I had is so for women you have like low rider jeans and then you have like high waisted pants and then you have like a mid. And so you literally have to have three different belt sizes. It drives me crazy like the belt that I will wear with my low rider jeans, doesn't work with the high-wasted. And it's just a huge, this is a huge problem that in a normal America, we could address these things for everyday Americans. Instead, we're fighting for democracy, which brings me to a question I'm really worried about. So the midterms. And the elections are put on by the states. And I'm very worried about Trump because historically, authoritarian, and it's my opinion that he has those ambitions. We've never seen a U.S. President

cozy up with dictators the way he does or defend them. And the denial of due process that he's heading there. But historically, once they get power, most of their things that they do are to keep it. So I'm super worried about 2026. And I know a lot of our listeners are. As the governor of a state, how can you ensure that like just take Maryland only, that the midterms are on the up and up, that there's been no interference, that from a local all the way up to your secretary of state, that all of this people have access, can go and just, is there hope? Can we have these elections, Governor? I'm very, very worried about it.

And listen, honestly, I'm nervous about it too because Donald Trump, knows he can't win on his policies. Right, right. You're not going to win an election. You're not going to win a midterm election saying like, you know, hey, vote for us. We just raise your prices on everything. Right. Vote for us.

We've just taken you all of health care. Yeah, exactly. Policies won't win. Yeah. And so what then do you do? You change the rules or then you come up with a different metric that you're then going to do. And so you say things like, well, you know what? We're going to, we think we should not.

allow mail-in balloting. So everyone should have to go in, knowing then what they're then going to do is to do voter and intimidation or at, you know, or saying that, you know what, hey, by the way, these Republican states, have you ever thought about redistricting? Yeah. You thought about changing how many congressional seats that you have? Don't know. The Democratic state shouldn't do it because that's voter tampering, but the Republican states, you guys should really look because you need fair maps. So it's very intentional what is happening and what's going on. And that's why I think it just, it stands on all of us for us to be able to say, oh, no, no, no, not today, that we are going to protect the integrity of our elections.

And it's something that when we first came on board, you know, we have our election, our elections commissions, which are independent. And we did that intentionally because we do not want political interference, like what we're seeing from our federal government. And the things that they have been able to do, the things we've been able to reinforce in the state of Maryland is making sure that we are protecting our election officials. So they are free from intimidation or free from any type of outside interference. That we've not only extended the time period that people have a chance to vote, both the early voting, the early voting period, and then also on day of election,

but also have enhanced mail-in balloting. So people have multiple different means and ways of making sure that your voice can be heard. And I'm very proud that if you look at every election that we have had in the state in Maryland, that these have been free and fair and consistent and safe elections. And it will be like that in 2026 and in 28 and in 2030. And in 2032, like we are committed to making sure that in Maryland we are going to have free, fair, safe and, you know, free fair and safe elections throughout. And it is just, and it's, it's coming on every single governor and every single state to do that. Because one thing that we do know, Donald Trump can

try to manipulate. Donald Trump can try to reconfigure. But here's something that we know. The elections are state-run functions. And so the only way that Donald Trump can be successful is if we have states who capitulate. Like Texas. Given. Exactly. Okay. I have a question for you. We have noticed this dramatic under this administration. I mean, it's always been present. And I'm talking about racism, but it has been cranked up to a fever pitch. I mean, everything's DEI. Everything's coded about, you know, inner black cities. In your position, you're in a powerful position. But have you noticed a change in your world or maybe with your, you know, friends that you know, friends and family? Because it's gross. Yeah, it is. And listen, I remember when I was first,

when I was first elected in our inauguration day. And I was very intentional about how I wanted the inauguration to go, because not only am I the first black governor in the history of the state of Maryland, I'm only the third elected African American governor in the history of the United States of America. And so for our inauguration day, I intentionally wanted to start down at the Annapolis docks, which is not only beautiful, but those docks in downtown Annapolis were one of this country's first and largest slave ports. And we started down there, and we did a wreathling, and we said a prayer to the ancestors. And then about hundreds of us then collectively marched from the state house, from the, from the docs, up to the statehouse where I was then inaugurated as a 63rd governor of the state of Maryland. And what was interesting was that, you know, almost immediately I saw how Fox in them were like, well, you know, he's starting his inauguration with indoctrination. God. I wish they would shut up. God. Guys, this is not indoctrination. It's history. Right. Yeah. It's who we are. And that's the thing. It's like, I am just a big believer that loving your country does not mean lying about it.

I agree. That loving your country means that we have a long and in many ways a flawed history in this country. This country is not perfect. And that's okay. But the fact is we had people. And the reason that we've been able to make it through every situation has been because of God's grace and because of heroic leadership. People who are willing to sacrifice and fight so that we could actually get to a better tomorrow. And so when I have people who come up and say, you know, I remember during the tragic bridge collapse of the key bridge where we were working constantly to and turn around when they told us it would take 11 months to clear the federal channel, we got it cleared in 11 weeks. Maryland truly put on a case study on how to respond in these moments of tragedy and crisis. And I remember there are people, you know, online who were like, you know, he's the, he's the DEI governor. And I remember someone asked me, they's like, you know, do you have an opinion about this person, you know, at, you know, catch me outside 54, who was like, you know, that called you the DEI governor. And I said, yeah, I do.

and I said, I don't have time for foolishness. I said, I'm trying to make sure that these six families are getting the closure that they need. I'm trying to make sure that these thousands of workers who just lost their job can get on the job as fast as possible. I'm trying to make sure that the 13% of our economy that was now just shut down because the port of Baltimore had been closed, that we can get that up and running as quickly as possible and the two-thirds of their country can get their goods again. And I said, and I don't have time to deal with the foolishness of these people who are

just going to spout ignorance and think. that somehow that ignorance is going to be remembered. And the fact of the matter, governor, is they use DEI, and I think, I'm not saying you're saying this, I'm saying this as a person that lives in a Bible Belt state because they know they can't say the N-word anymore. And they're saying that because you're black, you got something that you didn't earn. And when the fact of the matter is this, governor, women like pumps in me and our kids, I sent them to private schools. When they took the ACT, I hired an expensive tutor to tutor them to make the ACT. When they applied to colleges, I hired a person to assist them do that. I started saving in their college savings accounts back when I didn't have as much money to do it, but I knew that's what I wanted them to do. And it's important, I believe, in this multicultural society for me to acknowledge and to make sure my son's

know, you started this thing with about 10 steps. You're on the 10-yard line. And so to your black friends, my youngest son Roman, he played AAU basketball. So for Landry and Jamarion and these kids that we've traveled around with since kindergarten on, they played basketball together, their path has been more difficult than yours, Roman. And I think that's a very important, responsible human way that we approach this. And I, I personally ache when I hear people diminish the accomplishments of you or the Obamas or other black people and reduce it to what they've turned into a slur now, which is DEI, when actually Donald Trump, he's the one that got all the affirmative action. He's a Nepo baby that got a trust fund. You know, I mean, it's just so dishonest.

It's the whitewashing of history that they're wanting to do right now. And I feel like a big form of patriotism in the face of fascism as being a good ally to our black and brown brothers and sisters and standing for them because you guys have always stood up for human rights. And I feel like the biggest white calling right now is for us to stand. Like when you told me the story about y'all walking from the bridge, I was like, I wish I would have been there. Like I want to, I want to. You can come for the reelection. I want to. Oh, yes.

Okay. Let's talk about that. We'll do that again. We're going to do markets again. But no, but I'm really glad you brought that up because I do think it's like, you know, another thing that I have had it with, honestly, is like you take this idea of patriotism and that somehow the Republican Party are the party of patriots. Right.

And I'm just like, wait a second. How did that happen? And, you know, and I think about the people who sometimes will be the ones who will be the first to be criticized about how they are DEI or they didn't earn it or they or they are only there because of their sex or because of their skin color or because of their place of origin or whatever it is. And then I look at the credit and then I look at the credentials of those people who they're saying didn't earn it. And I think to myself, that is really rich. Yeah. of all these people to try to criticize some of the remarkable African-American, Latinos,

women, et cetera, who are sitting in really powerful positions knowing that they did not just earn it. They earned it four times over. Totally. Pumps always points out that during the Supreme Court hearings, that Brett Kavanaugh is not slinging, crying, emotional as all get out. What they always say women are. He's over there, bootle baby, talking about drinking beer and all this bullshit. They went hard after Katanji Brown Jackson, and she, I mean, was completely disciplined and perfect. And it seems like the burden that American society, not all of American society, but a lot of it puts on black people.

They don't put on everybody. It seems that they put on women. And then, of course, if it's a black woman, forget about it. You know, it's really, really difficult. And so I just think podcasting, these forums are a great place. for us all to talk about because some white people just have no fucking idea because they grew up in a white neighborhood, went to all white schools and still continue as adults, and they just sadly, they don't think about it.

And then when they do, when they hear a story about slavery, it makes them uncomfortable. And I feel like this space is a great space for us to talk about this and a great space for us to let it breathe and have, you know, like a flowing of empathy and understanding and a sense of humanity because I feel like right now politics are very otherizing and dehumanizing. And we just saw what happened with Charlie Kirk. And I condemn that with everything in me because I believe in free speech. I didn't agree with anything that he had to say hardly. I mean, I didn't listen to him very much, but I disagreed with him. But that whole thing made me sad.

It makes me sad to live in a country where somebody is doing their job on a college campus and they get shot. And we had a young black kid that worked for us that got shot last October. And I still think about it five, ten times a day. Like, I just am missing. I think about him. I think about his last moments. And it just is horrific. And the response to this from the right has been that they're at war with people like us, that

they want to have a war with us. And I don't want to have a like physical war with them. I want to have free and fair elections. I want to have conversations. I want to do the podcasting stuff. I don't want to be a gun nut and go blow shit up. Yeah. And it's, and I'm right there with you where, you know, I can vehemently disagree.

with Charlie Kirk's, some of his rhetoric, I think some of his rhetoric was dangerous and ignorant. And he should have never been murdered. Right. You know, his kids should not have to come up without their father. His wife should not be a widow. You know, I mean, I watched my father die in front of me

when I was three years old. What? And it's something that sits with me every single single day where I watched how then my mother raised the three of us, myself and my two sisters, on her own as an immigrant single mother. I watched how instantaneously and unexpectedly she became a widow who then had to now figure it out and how she now had to live a life that she in no way planned for, in no way expected, and in no way dreamed of. And I know that I know how every single day, I still wake up with a love of a person who, despite only having

him physically in my life for three years, I take a great deal of pride that his DNA still flows through me. My heart is broken for his children. My heart is broken for his wife. They should not have to do this. And I can vehemently disagree with some of the things that he has said. I can vehemently disagree with some of the positions that he takes. I also know that part of the reason that I wore the uniform with this country and I led soldiers overseas in combat and I would give my life for this country if necessary is because I believe in his right to say it. I believe in his right to express his opinion. and I believe that him expressing his opinion should not have to result in his death. That's what separates us from so many other places around the world.

That's what separates us. That's what makes the United States so unique and so special, is that the first amendment that we laid out when this new country was built was harbored around freedoms, a freedom of speech, a freedom of assembly, of freedom of the press, a freedom. The very first thing that when they were building this country, they thought to protect.

And so while I completely disagree with so much of what Charlie Kirk shared and expressed, the world got darker when he was shot. And now the fact that we have his children who are going to grow up with their father being killed all over the internet. And so I think it's really important that we do not forget this. Even in our displeasure or disagreements with his policies, that's not the answer. That's not how we're going to win.

And I think it's important that we always point out that for me, at least on the left, my disagreement with you and my reaction to a lot of the things he said that disgusted me, truly disgusted me, things about black pilots, about wanting to stone gay people. That hurt me and I want to stand with those marginalized people. But I never, ever think that I want the person that says that publicly executed. those my brain never goes there i want to live in a country where we feel safe going to movie theaters where hobby the 24 year old black kid that worked for me for my interior design firm and them for the podcast since he was 18 years old never late to work one day in his life went into a

convenience store one night and some kids tried to rob him and shot him and it this huge bright light was put out. And then I think about all the little kids that have seen their classmates. And I saw that video online and it wasn't censored. There's a whole other thing for Congress to deal with whenever we get a normal president. But I think about little kids in schools that have seen that type of graphic blood in their five and six year old classmates. And they had to go on from that. And I oppose that type of violence so much so that I even oppose it for the people with whom I disagree with it. I just universally across the board oppose it. And here's what I want to say what I think makes the left a little different. It's easy sometimes when you see like the Latinos

for Trump and then, you know, the lady who put on the big salsa rally, then her husband is detained. It's easy to be like, oh, you fucked around and found out, bitch. At the end of the day, when I put my head on the pillow at night, I feel bad for that guy. Right. That's detained by eyes. I don't get off on seeing these people suffer. I just don't have that in me. And that's what makes me progressive. Even the people who voted against their own interest. At the end of the day, I'm like, God damn it, you stupid idiot. Why did you do that to yourself? I don't want to see you suffer and separated from your family. This ad is brought to you by Vive Health Care, the makers of Appertude, Cabotegravere. You never skip your SPF and you carry hand sanitizer like an accessory.

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You know, we just had historic floods over in western Maryland, which is like Allegheny and Garrett County, kind of like, it's basically Appalachian. And these storms were so severe that we literally had to have boats go up to the second floor of the schoolhouse to go save the children because the first floor is washed out. So they had to go upstairs to the second floor. And thankfully, the boats were able to get them before they were washed away. We were some of the first boots on the ground. We put in for emergency disaster federal relief because we knew we qualified for it for it. And, you know, ironically, the president of the United States denied it. And we found out that not a single state that did not vote for Donald Trump has gotten any federal disaster relief.

And I was and still am furious over this. And a lot of people are saying, they're like, you do understand that area voted for Donald Trump by 75%. Like, they voted for him. They wanted this. So let them sit in it. Let them see what their vote just got. And while I tell people, I understand your point, but here's the thing I can that I cannot escape. They're Marylanders.

They're us. and I do not want to see any of them suffer, and I don't care how they voted in the last election. This is not an I told you so moment. This is a moment where they get a chance to see what is our humanity. What is our ability to be able to rise above and to make sure that they're protected

and that while the federal government is saying to them, you're on your own, that in Maryland, we're saying we leave no one behind. That's the difference. And so I can, cannot agree with you more. It's like, listen, there is a moment where people are realizing, and I think people are very quickly realizing that he is not who you think he is. And he was a fantastic vessel for the frustration, but he's not a vehicle for the solution. He's not interested

in solving your problems. But we still have to make sure that as part of this larger human umbrella that we find ourselves under. We're not going to stoop to that level. And we have to make sure that our people, no matter where they call home, no matter how they voted in the last election, but that our people are going to be okay. And I'm just so glad you said that because I worry about this younger generation. This is what your government is supposed to do for you, whether you vote them or not, they take care of you. This is what a normal politician does. So for those that have grown up conscious the last 10 years with the Trump stuff, you have to support the people that even hate you, the rage tweet about you. Your job is to take care of them.

Okay, do you have time to play our world famous game, Had It or Hit It? Oh, of course. Oh, my God. Welcome to Had it or hit it. I would hit it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Had it or hit it, cilantro.

Had it. So I'm one of these very weird people who, I think it's like 3% of the population that for me, cilantro actually tastes like soap and it ruins every single meal. And so like if anything has cilantro and it's like when people are like, oh, I want this guacamole or I want the kiss. And I'm like, yo, like I'm out. I have so had it with cilantro and this new, you know, this, you know, this gene that doesn't allow me to eat it. Okay, had it or hit it, talking about 2028. Are you? Will you?

And you know why I've had it, for real, is it's twofold. One is, you know, because people are constantly coming up to us. I'm very excited that we just, we put in for our reelection. We're very excited about reelection in the state of Maryland. And I think we've got an amazing story to tell in Maryland about drops in crime rate, drops in unemployment, economic growth, except. et cetera, et cetera, right? Bringing affordability and actually creating more housing and more affordable energy options. So all this kind of stuff. However, everyone keeps, you know, when people say like,

well, are you ruling out 2028? I'm like, y'all, I haven't ruled it in. What you ever once said anything about 2028 ever in my life? Let me just tell you this. In 2028, you come home to mamas right here. Yeah. You announce it right here and I've had it, Governor Westmore, because we think you You know, you came on just a fuse of praise. You just come right home to Mamas and announce it right here on I've had it podcast. We'll make it go viral. Okay.

All right. Had it or hit it, J.B. Pritzker. Oh, I love J.B. I do too. I love J.B. J.B.'s my guy. I mean, like, listen, and it's funny because a lot of them realize, like, for a lot of the governors, we're actually really close.

And, you know, and particularly for me because, like, I'm so new to this world. I've never, I mean, I've been involved. I had never run for office before my life before running for governor. I don't come from a political family. I don't come from a political background. And one day I was like, you know what? You know, screw it. I'm running for governor because I don't like what these people are doing.

And that's literally the journey. And then I ran for two years and ended up winning with more votes than anyone had ever run for office before in Maryland history. But there have been a real handful of governors, both some cases, both Democrat and Republicans, who've just been so good to me and just been helpful and thoughtful. And I've spent a lot of time with J.B., particularly over these past few weeks, as we both seem to be, you know, the, you know, the ignorant angles and attack angles from the President of the United States about our cities and our national guards. But I'm a big J.B fan. That's my guy. We met him at the DNC, and he was on our podcast. Same. I was so impressed with him. I think he's the real deal. He's very genuine, very empathetic.

A great thought leader, a great thinker, very realistic. Okay, a couple more. Had it or hit it, Stephen Miller. No, I've had it with him. I've had to him. He freaks me out. Governor, he freaks me out. And the thing about him that I think people do have to remember about him is that he is, he's actually, he's smart, which makes it that much more dangerous. I agree. Because he has a plan and he's working it and he's utilizing the president and working the president to make sure that his plan is actually is actually enacted. So I've had it.

I've had it with Stephen Miller. I agree. Donald Trump could give two shits about policy or any of this. This is all Stephen Miller. I mean, they were going to give his briefings in like a Fox News thing because he didn't give a shit. I mean, it's unreal. He just wants to decorate the White House and be on TV and everybody say he's cool. But there are people behind the curtain, they are diabolical.

They are evil and ambitious. And those two things combined. I mean, we are literally in the fight of our lives. I believe that we have to keep pushing for even the people who are voting against their best interest. We have to put our big britches on and say, we're voting for you and voting for your. right to have health care and you can hate us all you want, but we want you to be taken care of if you're sick. Okay. Had it or hit it, TikTok dances. Well, honestly, like, I've, I've, I've hit it with dances, had it with TikTok dances. You know what I mean? Like, like, I like

how TikTok can, like, take dances and, and mid-blade, but, like, real talk, I am, I am, I'm a dancer, man. Like, I like being out there. I like having fun. Um, you know, you, you drop a beat. I'm, I'm moving. So. Kylie. Yeah. Did you have a beat to drop? I love it. See, I love this.

This is so cute. That smiles is great. Governor Westmore, I mean, you make a red state gal want to move to Maryland. That's right. Seriously. You are such a joy. You are so smart. You so are such a fierce protector of your people, of your state. I think you are a star in the Democratic Party. You know where to come when the 2028 thing goes down. We'll do it. We'll do it in person. And we will do a TikTok dance. We will just get all turned up. I love it. I love it. Y'all come through it in Maryland. I'm telling you, this reelection, this is going to be something. We're going to send a message. okay we will definitely come we would love that it's so lovely to meet you we love your work and thank you for everything you're doing for our country god bless y'all thank you so much for real

thank you bye bye i'm in love oh my gosh you it took me like 10 minutes to catch up after he started talking about every morning at 6 a.m he goes and works out like my mind it took me 10 minutes to focus on you guys we've got to get pamp slayed yeah i mean i was just like can you imagine how cute he is and workout clothes? That's the whole time I'm thinking that. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's adorable. He's smart. And he's kind-hearted and like, empathetic combat veteran. I mean, it's just what a good person and how he, how proud he is of the changes and the impact that they've made truly lowering crime rate and making Baltimore safer and the empathy he has for that part of his state that is total MAGA, MAGA dump truck, and Trump won't give them their

federal money. And he's so mad about it. And that's the kind, that's what leadership is supposed to. They're supposed to be better than we are. Right. Like I, sometimes I can, I can find myself in, well, you voted, you need to sit in it. That's what a layman says. That's a very pedestrian thought, but leaders have to rise above and say, I don't care if they voted for me or not. I'm responsible for their well-being and for getting them this federal assistance. Absolutely, especially when you think about because he is black and the racism is just so blatant. You know, our DEI governor, da-da-da-da-da, and then Trump sucks him over and this is the guy that saves him. I hope, I'm hopeful that that would change somebody's mind and think, you know what? He helped me.

Trump abandoned me, but I'm not that optimistic. I don't because the right wing will just spin it and Trump would just say, I'm only giving it because I found out that these counties, you know, voted for me. And there's just a larger problem that we all have to deal with this misinformation and propaganda and people consuming it and believing it because it confirms some default setting that they have in them of racism. We see a lot in our red state of exceptionalism. and then you have the whole entire right wing branding empathy as a toxic trait, you know, which is just going to make everything worse. AI and these right wingers are just making everything worse. All right, listen, for all of our new listeners, we have a book.

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