I've Had It - Pimps, Hoes & Politicians

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Speaking of Passport, so why don't you update us on Caitlin Jenner's? Uh-huh. Darling, denied. You know, I got in this big fight with Cory Booker on the podcast. Woo! Honey, I'm done with her. Why is the quality of life so bad? Sorry, I mean to scare you.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Peppermint. Cheers. Cheers. Ready, one, two, three. Patriots, Gay Triots, they treatets, Black Triots, Brown Triots, we love you. anybody who still supports this dip shit running the country can do what pumps? I like it. Pumps, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with?
Starting point is 00:00:49 And we know that I'm on the struggle bus when it comes to buying on the internet. But what I've taken to doing is reading the reviews, which I thought was smart. And then I got two products recently from a company I never bought anything for. And I read the reviews. And it was like, oh my gosh. these are it's the best fabric you will love these just wah wow wow wow fucking the worst things on the planet that I just simply picked them up and put them back in the thing to return them that's how bad they were
Starting point is 00:01:23 what one of them I just threw away because I didn't even know where the return slip was tell us what you bought this okay it's like a cup a bathing suit cover up okay and it was super cute it looked like sear-sucker like a little like looks like a shirt, but it goes all the way down. It's like printed on material. It's so bad. So I've had it with the lying reviews, and then it occurred to me, are these AI reviews bots? Is it like fake?
Starting point is 00:01:53 They're cooking the books. Is that right? Yeah, they're cooking the books. See, so now I can just do it. I remember when we first started this podcast, we told all of our friends to go on Apple and write some reviews. So we are part of them. We have also, they weren't bots, they were real people, not objective at all. But do you remember telling our kids and our friends, hey, will you go give us five stars and write us a review?
Starting point is 00:02:20 We, yeah, we're assholes too. Yeah, I know I'm an asshole. I'm not even debating that point, but I'm just like, if you don't know anything about a company and you see all these, the quality is outstanding reviews and you get like the grossest of the gross and then another one had a ruffle that wasn't in the picture on this bathing suit. Where was the ruffle? Like right at the waist. Like it was a drop waist and it had like that.
Starting point is 00:02:46 A ruffle at the waist. No, it wasn't a ruffle. It was like a trim, but it was like just pointy triangles like a flag you would put. But it was like pointy triangles. And I just thought, no one would ever buy this if it was if it was real. And I thought about, well, do I take it to the tailor? And I thought, I spent $28 on it. I'd spent $5,000 times more than that altering it.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And I just chunked it. I was just like, fucking I've had it. Had it. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard to navigate the internet. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I've had it with mission statements. It's such a great one. I mean, a sock in it. If you're a company and you have a fucking mission statement, shut up. I don't want to buy anything from you. I don't want anything to do with you. If you talk about your mission statement a lot, if when you're presenting your services or your product to people, and you're like, well, our mission statement here and I've had it is to make sure we call every
Starting point is 00:03:48 motherfucker an asshole. Nobody, a mission statement is a made up thing. It is, it is a bullshit disguise. I guarantee you that company that you bought that swimsuit cover up, I bet they got a mission statement. Oh, I'm sure they do. It's a red flag. It's a huge flag. Kind of find us some mission statements that are stupid.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Okay, here's one that I think a mission statement is a, I mean, I'm sure things have had mission statements like when we were younger, but I don't remember ever it being talked about. So I overheard a conversation between my two youngest children. And my youngest child was preparing for the meeting with his boss this summer. and my daughter says to him, oh, get on the website and see what their mission statement is. And then you can start. Are dib shit kids buy into this shit too? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And he's like, oh my gosh, that's great because I've read their mission statement. And so when you said it's a bullshit statement. It is a bullshit statement. I'm going to boycott companies that have mission statements. And the Christian. of the fish. I have boycotted that for decades. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:09 You have. Decades. To be fair. For decades. Do we also want to talk about something else you were right about something you have told me? Yeah. Go on. Go on.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Okay. Since the beginning of time, Jennifer Welch has set, beginning of Facebook for sure. That's when you made me a Facebook. So this is literally 25 years to go. Yeah. we would follow couples that had their internet love story. I love you. You're the best.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And she has said right from jump, I mean, day one of Facebook, if couples are telling you how much they love each other on the internet, it's a disaster. They're screeching towards divorce. Do you want to take it from here? Do you want me to do it? Because you're a better storyteller than I am. Well, I'll take over because I do like to bathe. skin being right. So I noticed this a while back. There's two degrees of this. There are the people that
Starting point is 00:06:08 are advertising on Facebook like, I love my man. My man made me pancakes this morning. Okay. And then their friends are like, oh my God, you're so lucky that your man is such a good man, blah, blah. And then there's the couples who communicate with each other on Facebook, which I say is a five alarm fire. So then you have the guy that would chime into this post, anything for my woman. baby you do me so good i love those pancakes you made them special and hot just for your mom and he's like yeah that's what daddy always does and then other people are participating with it and i'm watching this thing when facebook first came out and i'm like somebody's fucking around somebody somebody's fucking around they're all of this is for an audience and so this couple that pumps
Starting point is 00:06:53 and i have been investigating for i don't know close to 10 years yeah 10 years and it was i mean every post was, and they had nicknames for each other. And every post, it's like, my pumpkin, and I'm going to keep the real nickname anonymous. But it's like, my pumpkin just does everything for me, the love of my life. And I'm talking paragraph long, very Trumpian style with sometimes cap lock, sometimes not, runaway punctuation. And mostly. And I said, when this first happened, I said to pumps, I said,
Starting point is 00:07:30 it might be high times right now. It might be cocaine and fantastic sex, but they're going to come off of this thing. And it's going to be a stage five meltdown of a divorce because there's no way people that online like this that are that fucking crazy online have a real civil divorce. Not that civil divorces are that common, but you hear about them. And so we had we had dropped the bag on this for quite some time. I moved to New York. work, blah, blah. Well, Pumps and I were on the phone the other day catching up about personal stuff. And I went back and did an investigation into this couple that not posted about each other in six months. I think divorce is imminent. And it just, it's, it happens every single time. Happy couples do not talk to each other on the internet. Yeah. Because you live with the person. Right. You live with
Starting point is 00:08:32 if Josh was writing if Josh was writing on my like Instagram post like I love my mama blah blah blah I'd be like what the fuck is wrong with you call me immediately it's such performative coupling
Starting point is 00:08:47 and it's to me although I don't want the crazy people to stop because I love it and it makes me feel really emotionally mature which we all know I'm not in the face of their emotional immaturity I feel super mature.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I feel really good when I fall, like, because I forget, I don't, I'm not as consistent as I once was looking at my crazy people, but every now and then I'll just do a recap of all my crazies just to see what's going on. And when they've turned it private, I'm like, oh, it's so good. It's so good. But it's so good because you know there was some form of an intervention. Right. And think about, think about how fucking crazy social media is that.
Starting point is 00:09:30 people have to intervene because somebody is posting like fucking Cokehead on that family members are like, you need to stop. There was that one gal that we followed that was a complete nut job. The one that wore the hats all the time. Yes. Just, I mean, just spiraling, spiraling, spiraling on the internet. And like her family and friends had to intervene. It's nuts. It's crazy. The shit people post. And what's interesting about it is, Yeah, we like it for fun, but some people comment and are like, you go, girl, or that looks good. I'm like, what are they doing? Are they perpetuating the problem?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Because they're like me and they like to watch? Or are they, do they believe what they're saying? Like, this is a great post. They're enablers of crazy. They're crazy people. And then there are crazy enablers that allow the crazy person to run amok. I mean, look, no further than the government of the United States of America to confirm that hypothesis. All right, welcome to I've had it.
Starting point is 00:10:30 My name is Jennifer. My name is Angie. Angela Dawn, the dawning of an angel. Kylie. Hi. I've got a mission statement for you. I'm going to see if you can guess the company. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Okay. Okay. Our mission is to identify, educate, train, and organize students to promote the principles of freedom, free markets, and limited government. Turning point. Turning point. Okay. One more.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Okay. Our deepest purpose as an organization is helping support the health, well-being, and healing of both people, customers, team members, and business organizations in general, and the planet. What company? Amazon. Whole Foods. Close. Exactly. These companies, I want to start anti-mission statement.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Also, I'm... I am up to my eyeballs on these pop-ups online. Oh, yeah. I go into a website where I want to buy something, right? So I go in and I see the item I'm about to click on it. And then the pop-up comes, join our club, send us your email, your STD results, your blood type, your, you know, your sign. And I'm just like, fuck you. You know, they want all this information from you.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And all you're wanting to do is spend money. But that's not enough. Giving these people money isn't enough. they want all the fucking dirt on you. So lo and behold, you get through the pop-up, you get past that barrier. I'm like, I don't want to join the club. I'll pay money to not join the club. I'll pay money to not receive emails.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Because I oppose email terrorism as much as I do these mission statements. And then you buy the thing. And I'm like, they better fucking not email me anything other than the receipt. And then it's just, you're just terrorized in your email box. And the amount of anger that I feel during. during the day, navigating the internet is overwhelming. That's why I'm really grateful for these emotionally unstable, crazy people that advertise it online because it makes me feel like a better person.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Their insanity makes me think, at least I'm not that person. But as I say that, I realize I'm a total hypocrite because this entire podcast is online. And our haters, as well as some of our lovers, would probably say, you're a fucking hypocrite because you advertise you're crazy all day, every day, bitch. And I would say, I really can't defend that. We always admit that we're hypocrites, though. I know, but we're still hypocrites nonetheless. I bet there's a lot of people that watch this show and say,
Starting point is 00:13:08 I'm fucked up, but at least I'm not. 100% for sure. I'm worth that for some. I'm fucked up, but at least I'm not as fucked up as that gin and pops. And I'd be like, okay, pay it forward. Pay it forward. Right. I've got one review.
Starting point is 00:13:24 you and Jen, you're just getting trolled so hard by someone who loves you. Okay. Okay. This is five stars titled Centrist, Excellence, Reimagined and Exceeded. This is from Chicago Mark, and he says, it's so refreshing hearing Jen the centrist or gentrist, as I call her, always stay right dab in the middle of every issue. You never know if she leans more left or right, and that's really what we need right now in Trump's America.
Starting point is 00:13:52 truly the most moderate voice in all of political podcasting. Sure, sometimes I wish she was more progressive or even liberal, but that's what Pumps is for. When Pumps goes left, Gentrists is there to lead us all right back to the middle. Centrist excellence at its finest love, Mark. Backing Mark from Chicago just knows how to just really poke the air. For the new listeners, like within the first year of podcasting, would you say? Yeah. somebody called me a centrist in one of these comments.
Starting point is 00:14:25 It was a long comment like da-da-da-da-da. And even though she's a centrist and it was like a pretty effusive comment. Like it was overall five-star positive. And at the end, I'm like, that's so nice. And I'm like, did they just call me a centrist? Oh, it's all I heard. And I think I spiraled about that for at least six months. At least six months.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Because you spiraled so bad, people started making you t-shirts and giving it to the show at our shows that would censor. and then it just dug all back up again. Yeah. Yeah, they called me a centrist. God. And I just, now you see the centrist out there in the political landscape. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:04 It's a total. I'd rather be called a magocultist than a centrist because at least the magocultists believe in something. They believe in the crazy evil bullshit they do. Centrist don't believe in fucking anything. It is a pick me. I don't want to, I want to make sure I don't, you know, roughly. any feathers. I'm just, I'm a interest. I don't like either extreme.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And it's like, I don't even know what's so extreme about the left. Every day I think that more and more. What's so extreme about it? For those watching, Jen, look at your name tag on the screen. Can you see it? Gentress. It's such a cunt. It's unbelievable. Highly, five stars. I'm reporting, I'm reporting you to HR. You live with HR.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah. I've got the end on HR. Yeah. HR happens to be Kylie's girlfriend, Anna. I hired to be my assistant. And I also put her in charge of the HR department here at I've had a podcast. And her first day as the HR director of I've had a podcast, she wore a black sheer shirt and over the boobs were two hands that weren't sheer. And she goes, hi, what do you think about my new HR shirt? And I thought, that is perfect. That's the, you. exact kind of leadership I want in my HR department. And I want our mission statement to say, we dismantle mission statements. Fuck your mission statement. Fuck you if you came here and you thought we would actually have a mission statement. Never listen to our podcast again. Ever. I remember that morning that she was HR and she was getting dressed for her HR position. And she came out, didn't even acknowledge the shirt at first, but it's just, like you said, sheer two hands over the tits. She said, since I'm HR, should I wear glasses or not watch a little serious?
Starting point is 00:17:00 All right. I've got a news story. Okay. Hooters is getting a rebrand. Pop this up. Hooters is trying to revamp its image with a family-friendly vibe. The New York Times reporting the original owners of Hooters are moving to reclaim the business. with a plan to re-huterize the brand and bring it back to a casual place with a family-friendly vibe. We're getting back to what makes us a beach-themed restaurant as opposed to a girly bar. Neil Kiefer, the chief executive, said in an interview, under private equity control, he argued the franchise operators leaned into more overtly sexual marketing, notably a 2021 decision to introduce uniforms that resembled underwear.
Starting point is 00:17:54 There's kids eat free promotion on Saturdays and Hooters branded baby onesies are for sale, yet it holds the occasional bikini night with servers doing their jobs in swimwear. The fucking name of it is Hooters. It's Hooters. It's always going to be Hooters. Here's the thing. The people that take their families to Hooters don't give a fuck one way. or the other. So I don't know who they think's going in there. I mean, I don't, the kid's eating free. I just don't know who. Hooters is Hooters. That's why people go in there. I was just in a Hooters in
Starting point is 00:18:31 November because we were in Mexico City and my son needed to pee. And there was a hooters right there. There was nobody in it. But you have, so I bought a Coke and he peed. And so they were still in the same old uniforms. But I, well, it says here. that something about didn't want the uniform that resembled underwear. I mean, haven't they always worn basically short, short, orange shorts, and isn't it known like hooters or tits? Right. And you stuff them up in those little white shirts and they're like when you serve the food, it's like a cleavage shot. That's what I always thought. I mean, it's basically, like family friendly
Starting point is 00:19:19 titty bar is what it is. Right. I mean, that's what they want. Like, like, and here's the thing. Like, what's interesting about this is he said the company lost their way becoming overly sexualized. You hire women
Starting point is 00:19:38 with big tits and good bodies to serve food and drinks. Like, what am I missing here? Right. When was it? It's like the cracker barrel of kid friendly. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I didn't even know it was beach thing. That's news to me. That's the only thing that surprised me in that. They're so stupid. Okay. And then pop this up. Hooters has also been the place for a cultural right of passage. Some fathers have taken their sons to the restaurant as a kind of initiation into heterosexual
Starting point is 00:20:12 masculinity. On a recent night in East Brunswick, Aaron Lapa, 47, was perched at a high top table with his son, his brother and a nephew. It was his son's 12th birthday, and he had driven here from Staten Island to celebrate. It was a family decision, Longa said. We brought the wives together to discuss. So straight people are literally bringing their kids to a restaurant to teach them to objectify women. But the drag queen story time is the threat.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And then also I just want to say, our friend, Peter Rothkep, also known as Peter Twinklage on Twitter. His, I believe it was his grandpa, took him to Hooters because they were trying to un-gay him. So a lot of gay men have reported that, like, their grandparents or their dad thinks they're gay. So they take them to Hooters. And in Peter's article, he also wrote for the New York Times. When the grandpa went to the restroom, the waitress sat down with him and said, I know, honey, I love you just the way you are.
Starting point is 00:21:19 These guys do this to gay boys all the time, like basically comforted him. And when Peter's story came out, he was flooded with responses from several other gay men whose dads and or grandparents and or peers took them to Hooters to try to like ungay them. So the whole rebrand that somehow this is a family restaurant, and it doesn't surprise me at all that this rebrand would happen in the middle of the Trump. administration. The big titty restaurant is a family restaurant. I wonder a big titty Brian can get a job there. The husband of Christine. Oh my God. That's the best idea I've heard. What was his, he wanted to be a trans bimbo slut named Crystal? Was it Crystal? I think it was Crystal. Candy. I think it's Crystal. Crystal with a K. The very first like porn on Skinna Max, my girlfriend and I watched when we were like in sixth grade.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It wasn't like a porn. It was Skinnamac. So I don't know if that, but anyway, her name was Candy Cane. So I always think of candy instead of Crystal, I think. That's just a personal anecdote nobody asked for. Was that your first foray into lesbian porn? I think it was straight. I think it was, they were having sex in a hay barn.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I'm impressed that you remember such details for Robbie. Did the woman have large breast? Did Candy cane have large breasts? I remember. I think she was in Hooter Shorts. All right. That was the intro to our show. Stay with us during this commercial break.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And then when we get back in studio, joining us is peppermint. So stay tuned and we'll be right back. All right. Are you sick of all of the makeup that is like caked on? And you just don't even look like yourself. I have the antidote for all of this. And it is Jones Road Beauty. And the best thing about it, it shrinks your get ready time because you don't even have to use brushes.
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Starting point is 00:25:10 Hi, finally, we're here together on camera. I love it. Hello, gorgeous. Hello, gorgeous. We first met at the GLAD Awards. Yes, we did. And I asked you if you had had it with white women. The sentence was longer than that. I said, had it or hit it white women's hat? Hit it, had it. Had it. Had it. Oh my gosh. I'm so happy. I'm happy to be here with you. I know. Okay. What have you had it with peppermint? I have had it with, let's just jump right in. I've had it with people who think that trans people only think about trans issues. that's a very fantastic grievance because from what I can see, the people who think about trans
Starting point is 00:25:54 issues more than anybody are conservative MAGA people. That's all they fucking talk about. That's all they talk about. They are obsessed for many reasons we could get into. But yeah, the trans community is obviously there's lots of prejudice and discrimination going around. All of this thinking that the Republicans and conservatives are doing about trans people and about queer people in general is really damaging. It has real life impacts.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Their move to their fight against DEI, which results in people losing access to health care, people losing access to their jobs, people not being able to have proper identification. It really is far-reaching and very damaging. That being said, all these issues that infect trans people that you hear as a transgender issue really, really. when you boil it down are just about a regular person getting to have access to the things that we all need. Housing, food, health care, a job. That's what it means. I don't want some transdiscriminatory law to go out because it's going to stop me from being able to hold a job, from being able to have fair housing, all these things that everyone fights for and should have in what's supposed to be every country. It's insane. And I started digging, I've had theory. I've had theories.
Starting point is 00:27:13 about a lot of this stuff for quite some time. The obsession with Republicans, Maga Republicans towards LGBTQ plus issues is like nothing I've ever seen. And I get in fight sometimes with Democrats on my podcast who want to throw the trans community under the bus and capitulate to right-wing framing surrounding it. And instead of playing defense, I don't understand when we don't play offense and say, why are you guys so obsessed with trans people? It's not normal to be this obsessed with a group of people. So I dabbled around on the internet one day. And I found a study and they found all of the trans porn hotspots peppermint. They were all these bright red counties with the number one consuming county of Transform, Lawton, Oklahoma. I know. And that also
Starting point is 00:28:06 coincides with all of the anti-trans bills and laws that are on the books. Is in Oklahoma. You know, there is an obsession and I think that there's something to be said for people who are extremely conservative in any sort of like Western patriarchal society having uh you know like sort of um these really really really strict what they would call moral values a women should be this way men are this way and having this this sort of binary thinking with everything everything's just so black and white and simple and human beings are not simple human beings are complex and so any human being, regardless of how you identify politically or sexually or in your gender identity, every human is complex. And so even conservatives who subscribe to like being extremely religious and extremely
Starting point is 00:28:54 this and extremely just simple, all men are this, all women are that, even conservatives can't really hold to that. And so they end up doing what is more human. Now, unfortunately, they end up betraying their humanity because they're actually attacking those. people that they are either attracted to or drawn to, better sizing, which is harmful. It is harmful. You know, I think it's important to point out that conservatives give birth to children that are LGBTQ plus at the same rates that a liberal would, which is around 10% of the population, when you get to trans issues, it's less than 1%.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And now there's this hyperfixation on your community. that is relentless, dangerous, and fatal. It is a fatal attack on a group of very marginalized people, particularly when you get to black trans women, the numbers are really devastating. Can you speak about that as a black trans woman? Yeah, I mean, yet again, we are in a situation where historically,
Starting point is 00:30:05 black trans women, black trans people, stand at the intersection of anti-black racism and misogyny and homophobia. And so those sort of issues crisscross through the trans community and particularly for trans women in a way that stops us, again, from being able to access the things we need. And many, unfortunately, historically, many black trans women have been forced to make a decision when they've been shut out of work and shut out of different opportunities, they've been forced to make the decision to engage in survival sex work. And that's something that I think has impacted the community.
Starting point is 00:30:47 It has lasting impacts in the community and for individuals. But this obsession with trans issues, like you said, it is fatal and the lack of protection that we should get from who are people who should be progressives. These are people that campaign on progressive ideals. And then they turn around and they admit after, not admit, but actually coalesce or acquiesce to the right and saying, yeah, you know, the reason why we lost is because the election is because of we were too woke and we focused on trans issues too much. When the Harris campaign did not champion, I'm not saying Kamala Harris was anti-trans, but that was not included in her platform anywhere. I was looking for it. I was working with the campaign saying, right now.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Now, there are many, many anti-trans policies that were happening in the state level, despite the fact that Donald Trump was not in office. But his rhetoric really, and probably his first term, really allowed people at the state level to start attacking the trans community years ago. And so we were seeing that attack really, really sort of take hold and end up result in hundreds of anti-trans bills and policies. And it kind of started with the attack on drag. Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah. We're like, we don't want drag queens reading. We don't want drag queens, you're breaking into our house. We don't want drag queens, you know, scamming, whatever. And they're not, they're not doing any of that. They're not. They're in a dress at the thing, reading a book. All you have to do is not go to a drag show.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Just don't go to a drag show. It's simple. But they were able to use that as their anti-trans introduction. And people sort of like slyly moved over from drag issues to trans issues. suddenly became about gender ideology and gender this and gender that. And philosophically, theoretically, it does have harmful impacts that are longer lasting, but immediately it has devastating impacts for the black trans women who don't have access and who aren't as institutionally secure. Right. And so that is, that's a problem. What, what, the thing that is the more devastating for me
Starting point is 00:32:59 is that so many people spend so much time talking about the trans community on every channel. It's like it's top of, it's on the top 10 list for sure, maybe in top five. Yeah. Obviously top one in Oklahoma. Oh, it is. It is top one in Oklahoma. But what we're not doing is talking about the black trans women who are viciously murdered brutally on a weekly basis.
Starting point is 00:33:22 We don't talk about their lives as if they have any value. And we're not really acknowledging the circumstances. that can get them killed. And a lot of times the murders are at the hands of people in the community, people in their local communities wherever they live, who are their romantic partners or boyfriends or people who they're engaged in sex work with, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And beyond that, then trans women will sometimes have a really dangerous interaction with law enforcement and the police. And what my fear is that this new sweep, this new sort of like emboldening of ice and placing trans people on the terror watch list or whatever they're doing will really impact people when they have interactions with law enforcement that can be even more dangerous and more deadly. And so it's it's a mess. It's a mess.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Let's unpack a little bit here. I want to talk about trans kids. because where I'm from in Oklahoma, that whole binary world you're talking about. You know, you're a Christian, you're a boy, you're a girl, you're a Republican. It was very defined. Fortunately for me, I grew up by an open-minded parents, atheists, and I was never indoctrinated. And any of this, my mother and I had a trans hairdresser in the 1980s. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yes, my mother is, yes. Yes. But I watched this before this issue. She was so front culture war issues. It was either 60 Minutes or a Vice episode, probably about 10 years ago. And it was a woman in Alabama. And she was raising her trans daughter. And she was a Christian, evangelical, this mom and Republican, all the stuff you're supposed to be in Alabama.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And she has this born a son who is identifying as a girl. So there were spankans. there were time out, time out, there was abuse, there was prayers, there was just a lot of things that the community that she did, her family did, and then her church at large did to this little girl. And finally, this mother said, I had to save my child. And now my family doesn't speak to me. Now my church doesn't speak to me. But my daughter is safe in who she wants to be.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And so because I think we need to normalize talking about this, where it happens, before it gets to the place where we have people that are getting viciously murdered, can you share with my audience, with my listeners, about your experience and what happened to you when you were little and what would have helped you so that anybody who's listening here that has a grandchild, or a friend who maybe has somebody on the gender spectrum. How can we as a society raise our awareness, educate ourselves about gender, and about the best way to embrace children who are presenting a certain way instead of punishing them so viciously? I think a lot of this really does fall down to obviously fear. Oh, yeah. And I watch plenty of interviews and hear people talking about like their opinions about trans kids. or transgender people in general,
Starting point is 00:36:58 and the influence, an influence of the community on someone who they think could become trans. And the fear in their voice, it seems as though they're expressing a fear that that child could become trans or could become gay or could be influenced into being something that they are not. And then beyond that,
Starting point is 00:37:20 I hear a lot of people advocating and saying, well, you know, you shouldn't get surgery because if you do, you shouldn't have, you know, you shouldn't have gender-forming care because if you do, what if you want to change your mind? What if in 10 years? What if in 100 years? What if in a million years? And I understand that perspective.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I also know that there are people who do parents and guardians or adults who do, unfortunately, contribute to a very anti-trans and anti-queer. sort of atmosphere that then turn around and say, well, I don't want you to be gay or queer or trans because you might get bullied, not realizing that they are contributing to that same energy. But ultimately, I think the thing that would have, I came out as trans as a young adult. Okay. And didn't really have access. I mean, I tried to come out several times.
Starting point is 00:38:17 When did you feel that? I never, I've always felt exactly now. You've never not felt it. Yeah. The only thing that was different was how I was. perceived by other people. And I knew, like, I'm well aware of who I am, how I was born and all this, but I also knew how I felt and it just didn't work for me. And I was, the only way I can explain it is I had this, I was a happy child. Like, I was like, I would laugh and joke and
Starting point is 00:38:43 stuff, but like underneath, there was like an underlying sadness that was just always there until I was able to really click into who I am and express that. And I think every human being knows what it's like to want. I hear so many human beings, regardless of their political affiliation, that they want to be accepted for who they are. Everybody. Trans people do too. Of course.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And that is, I think, at the crux of this conversation. And when a parent is trying to figure out, like, what the best thing is to do. And no, we have to understand that so much of the fear that parents have and people who are naysayers of the trans community are listening to everybody but trans people on this issue. Totally. Yeah. Like they don't, statistically, most people don't personally know someone who's trans. Right. You know, a lot of, you can hear it in how they're talking about it saying they're coming in and they're riding on elephants and like they're just like this.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's like, what are you talking? talking about. Like, that's not what's happening. They make it sound, if you listen to Foggs, like, y'all are this organized drug cartel. Yeah. With all of these weapons, going into schools and like, peppermint, go down, and you're like, I've got her. Shot trans, boom, trans. Like you're shooting trans bullets into kids. Like a ninja. It's fucking crazy. It's wild. And I also want to, you know, like we can specifically look at the numbers when it comes to that misinformation because we just talked, you know, about shootings. And I want to be, you know, reverent of the fact that there are so many school shootings that happen.
Starting point is 00:40:22 So many mass shootings that happen in our country. You know, we top the list. There's a mass shooting statistically that happens every day, I think. And right now what we're doing is we're watching people who are conservative and who are anti-trans, basically blaming the entire trans community for every single school shooting that's ever happened, trying to sort of like convince us that every trans, every single shooting that's ever happened has been done by a trans person. I have the numbers on this.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It's four that are trans. And then the rest that mass shootings, it's in the thousands. And Joe Rogan is a huge presenter of this misinformation with an assist from his friend Elon Musk. And this just all contributes to this propaganda surrounding trans people. When I think back to growing up in the 80s, you, we all. this whole gender binary thing, the way it's trying to be defined so forcefully right now by the right wing, it didn't even really exist that much back then. Because I remember the phrases if there was a girl who was kind of mask presenting, and I hope
Starting point is 00:41:32 I don't say anything wrong, that we would say she's a tomboy. Yeah. And then if there was a little boy that was a little bit effeminate, we would say, well, boy, he sure is lighten his loavers. Lighten his loafer, little nellie. Yeah, yeah. And so it was just, it was something that we accepted. And now it's like on steroids with these men and the Trump regime trying to be so
Starting point is 00:41:54 masculine all of the time. And it's so nauseating. And it's so performative and it's so fake. We can totally see through it. And, you know, I understand that people have this fear of the unknown and so much of what we're hearing, particularly with like, for instance, the school shooter issue. we can see in the numbers that that's actually not what's happening. And what we're hearing now as a result of like this supposed epidemic of transgender shooters
Starting point is 00:42:24 that's false is talking about taking away guns, talking about limiting people's access to their Second Amendment rights. And it is really ironic that people who are conservative are the ones who are purporting taking away Second Amendment rights. Now I know there's a lot of people who are like caught up in it and saying, well, we have to do something, but just take a step back and understand that all of this complaining that people were doing about wanting to protect the Second Amendment and not have anyone come for our guns. It's going to be the Democrats. It's going to be the this. It's going to be whoever it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Right now, listen to yourself and realize that you are on the side of taking Second Amendment. If you are coming for a certain group of people, I'm not talking about one person who's barred, that person is on a list. I'm talking about transgender people in general because they're trans, losing access potentially to Second Amendment rights. That is the government fucking with Second Amendment. And now you're on the side of taking away the guns. Well, and let's talk about how we have seen little kids killed in their classrooms. Nobody will do anything about it, nothing about it. But the threat of this made-up lie perpetuated by Joe Rogan and Elon Musk to all of their idiotic dipshit followers.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And yes, I called you all dipshits and idiots. And I'll tell you. That's right. Then it's like, okay, now we're going to do something about it. It's just the hypocrisy. But I want to talk to you about because the gun segue right into this. One thing that you emailed us about, you've had it with pro-corporate musings of influencers who are obsessed with trying to convince us. us that instead of holding politicians accountable, just trust whoever looks like you as long as they
Starting point is 00:44:14 are wearing blue. Go off on this. Honey, I mean, I'm just, I am, I guess I've had it with people who it's a different era. I think we can all agree it's a different era politically. The rules have changed. Pardon me, the rules have absolutely changed. It used to be back in the day where if they were Democrat, they're good to go. They feel the same as me. And I knew, like, if somebody was black and running for any office, vote for them because they're going to be on the, they understand me, they understand my community. But right now, especially with how much money is flowing through, through politics, all bets are off. It doesn't matter what your identity is. We can see. You would say, there's a, there's a person who's really high profile who's trans. Should we trust them politically?
Starting point is 00:45:04 should we get them in office? Ten years ago, we might have said yes. But if I told you that person's name's Caitlin Jenner, there's a lot of people like, actually no, actually no. Well, guess what? If it happens for the trans community, it can happen for black folks, women, disabled people, whoever, you name it. And so identity is really important when it comes to being able to understand and hold sort of empathy for people. But identity alone cannot be a reason to follow somebody into off of a cliff. And so what we really need to do, I think, as people who are progressive is understand the difference between being on the left, being a leftist, and being a Democrat, being a progressive, being a liberal, and being a centrist. And we have to understand,
Starting point is 00:45:47 and I know a lot of people don't, that just because it says the name Democrat doesn't mean it's on the left or progressive at all. American politics is very center-right focused. And that's just the way it is because if if the people who were the quote opposition were really the opposition, they would have as much fire to get things done as what we're seeing the Republicans doing, who are getting things done. Yeah, they're wrecking the shit out of everything. Yeah. Meanwhile, the people that are in the center who are sort of like the thought leaders or whoever
Starting point is 00:46:20 are sitting there attacking people on the left and convincing, you know, everyone just stick with the status quo, don't rock the boat. and using identity as a shield for criticisms, for very real criticisms that need to happen. I don't care who you are. I understand now because of Citizens United and the Heritage Foundation that these organizations work in tandem to flood money into politics and then completely do things like
Starting point is 00:46:49 reverse access to our constitutional rights. Yep. So if the person, if they decide that they're going to put a black person in front to usher that in, I don't care what you look like. I don't want you in. If you're taking money, I don't want you in. If you can't say no to war, if you're not anti-war, anti-genocide, I don't want you in.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I agree. Those are my personal. That's where I am personally on this. And I am so frustrated with the leftist, not leftist, with the centrist, people who look blue. But all they do is attack the left. I have a great thing. So everything you said is so smart. and a lot smarter than I've been saying it recently.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I boiled this down to two groups. Pamps and hoes. Okay, honey. I might have been one or the other one of these days. Peps are the Heritage Foundation. Pamps are big gun, big pharma, big tech, Israel, A-PAC. Hose are all of the politicians that take money from the pimps.
Starting point is 00:47:54 They are, so here are some hoes. We have J.D. Vance is the biggest prostitute this country has. Peter Thiel bought him, took him off to Silicon Valley, queer-eyed him, sending back as VP. He looks a lot better after he went to gay camp at with Peter Thiel. But he is the country's biggest prostitute. But we also have, in the Democratic Party, we have some hoes. Chuck Schumer, ho. Ho.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Hakeem Jeffries. Ho. They're taking money from the same pimps that pay maggots. It's the same. We cannot vote for pimps or hos. We can't. Now, if you're a classic pimper in a hoe, I'm in support of decriminalizing sex work. I am too.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I am too. But now, if you're just getting paid to go do a little in the back, that's different. If you're taking away our rights and changing the access to the constitutional rights and protections that we have, then that's the wrong kind of hoe. If you're earning your money on your back earnestly, I support you and I'd probably vote for you. Hey, honestly. I really would. I honestly would. and I would rather earn my money on my back than be a hoe like chuckles, like J.D. Vance,
Starting point is 00:49:03 like little Moses Mike Grindr Johnson. I just... Peppermint. Drag her. Cheers. Cheers. This is peppermint's tea. Tell my listeners about your tea. This is a commercial break.
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Starting point is 00:49:37 But the best part about this is a portion of every single sale of this tea goes to advocates for trans equality. I love that. I love that. I love that. focused trans-led organization that focuses on quality of life issues for the trans community, protecting us with our passports, our identification, name changes, legal access to voting, all these different things that are on the table right now. And so get yourself some tea. If you're not drinking this, then your tea is transphobic, honey. That's what I have to say. Speaking of
Starting point is 00:50:11 passports, so why don't you update us on Caitlin Jenner's? Uh-huh. Darling, denied. You know, I mean, I have very little empathy, sympathy. I very little sympathy. I can empathize with her, but I have very little sympathy for someone who's going to, who fails to see her contribution to the situation that we're all in right now. That being said, I don't want to misgender Caitlin Jenner. I don't, she's a woman. I don't want her to not have access to a past.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Not on the, maybe on the grounds that she killed someone, but not on the grounds that she is trans. Right. And so I want her to have the same access and the same rights as everyone else. And it seems as though she would be perfectly happy. And a lot of people who, especially even those centrist liberals, would be perfectly happy. Centrist liberal. She's like the biggest, most disgusting insult. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Centrist liberal. Perfectly happy having these, you know, rules for thee and not for me where they're like, you know, as long as I have access to whatever it is, then I'm okay. As long as I'm not involved in a genocide, it's okay. As long as I'm not losing access to this or that, it's okay. And the centrist liberals are the very first people when people are chirping online, because most of the conversations we have is online, are the very first people to sit around. I only hear them talk about the trans community two and a half times a year. Once is when you are criticizing a establishment politician. Then they'll be like, well, you better not criticize them because they're the only ones
Starting point is 00:51:58 that are going to save you. Meanwhile, look what's happening. Right. The other time is when you are like trying your best to advocate against war and genocide, people are like, well, don't, you know, if you're like against Islamophobia and anti-Islam hate, well, don't be, you know, don't be protecting the Islamic people and Muslim people because because they would throw you off a building. Honey, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:52:21 They're not, you know, like, that's the only time that I hear these centrist liberals even announced, mentioned the trans community. Could you say something about the attacks in the trans community that are currently happening right now? Can you say something about the fact that trans people are being put on a terror watch list and being blamed for everything?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Can you do something about that? State by state by state. They are not only did this start in Kansas, but now there's six or seven states that have overnight revoked access to trans people's licenses and their birth certificates. And then here's what's important to point out. Trans people do not disappear.
Starting point is 00:52:58 It doesn't like, it's so, like, what is the end game here? All you're doing, it's institutionalized bullying. And again, as we mentioned at the top of the episode, it can be fatal. This type of legislation can be fatal. But let me have you explain this. And I try to explain this to my audience all the time. my audience agrees, I think, for the most part. Yeah, they're good. So when you have universal human rights, you as a trans person cannot throw Palestinians under the bus. You cannot be dismissive
Starting point is 00:53:32 of Islamophobia if you want people to take seriously anti-black racism. And so when we have a Democrat politician who is really good on a lot of issues, but then the genocide comes up, For me, this is a red flag because if they're willing to throw little kids in a very poor country that have nothing under the bus, what's going to make them not move the goalposts and then start marginalizing and attacking more groups? Money, hose. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 We are, listen, when it's on the simplest, regardless of where you fall, on the simplest list of terms, I thought we were at a point where seeing children being burned alive is something we can all agree we don't want to happen. I thought so too. Some people might just say that they don't want to see it, but I don't want to see it because I don't want it to be happening. So if we can start there, imagine someone who can be paid by a corporation to turn a blind I against that. Imagine someone who you think is a principal person being able to be,
Starting point is 00:54:47 have their moral compass adjusted to fit what a corporate pack wants it to be. And people need to realize, they should realize, I think that they do, that corporations do not have our best interest at heart. No. They want to pollute the water, pollute the air, pollute the cellist chemicals in our food, not pay you anything. Not pay you anything. Take away your access to housing or make the houses. Everything involved corporations and capitalism gets smaller and smaller and smaller. The products get worse and worse and worse and get more and more expensive. Honey, I'm to go get some damn ice cream the other day. I'm used to having a pint of ice cream. This is a pint of ice cream. They're not even pints anymore. They're 14 ounces. A pint is 16 ounces. They're not
Starting point is 00:55:28 even a pint anymore. They're smaller. And now they're $8. They used to be like $4.75. That's what, I mean, that's, I don't mean to, you know, belittle the conversation of genocide. I'm just saying that corporations, everything corporations touch, for the most part, just ends up being... Exploitation and profit. That's what it is. And so why would you want somebody who wants to coase the up to that if their job is to, as an elected official, advocate on behalf of people? This is, you know, I got in this big fight with Cory Booker on the podcast. Oh, honey, that episode.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Woo! Honey, I'm done with her. Oh, I know. Because here's my thing. a progressive person that lived in Oklahoma City. I saw firsthand how destructive the MAGA super majorities are. I have friends who just recently moved. They have a trans daughter. They had to move out of Oklahoma to California because they cannot raise that child there because the cruelty trickles down. The bullying trickles down. Other kids would bully, you know, the schools, etc.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And so back in the day, back in the day, I would see Cory Booker. And I think, I'm going to this man's a dream. He's good looking. He's progressive. I really had this like, like warm feeling about him. And then you find out that Israel broke him and that he's a ho. And he takes money from the pimps. And then you think anything he says from that point moving forward about the LGBTQ plus, about anti-black racism, to me it's all watered down. How do you feel as a black trans woman? when you see somebody like Cory Booker talking about equality and all of the things, how does that make you feel? It kind of goes to one of your grievances here. It's only, I see our identities being trotted out and used only as this shield or this protection or as an excuse when they're making a statement about something where invoking transness serves their argument but doesn't really call them to put in the work. I don't care if you, I remember when Obama was elected and the first time he mentioned the LGBT community in a speech.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I think historically it was the first time the president's ever done that. I remember, honey, I was running through the street. I was celebrating. I was like, oh, we did it. We got it. It's over. We got it. Little did I know, right, that we had so much further to go.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And that is not enough. We hear politicians mentioning the LGBT community from time to time and, you know, certainly not enough. but, you know, they're not putting in the work. They're not actually performing the actions that they were elected to do to protect their constituents, their voters. And that is a problem for me. I would much rather have someone who maybe they say, I don't necessarily like trans people. I don't know anybody and it doesn't really mean anything to me, but I want every single person in this country to have access to health care and housing and food and this. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:58:27 If we can agree on that, I don't care what you think of me. You don't need to come to my shelves. What I think, like, I think that a way around, because this issue, I acknowledge for people that live in rural America that have been told this is the only way people exist. This is the only way the world is. And then they hear, you know, all about, you know, all this trans ideology and all this crazy shit's going on that they'd be like, well, what the fuck? A politician that truly is a decent person that really cared about the country, their faith,
Starting point is 00:58:58 or whatever, all the stuff they trot out. out, all the platitudes, would say, you don't have to understand it. You get to think it's weird. Yeah. You get to think, well, that's some weird shit, but you cannot take away rights from people. And so when Democrats, I had that Rahm Emanuel on my podcast, and he said, yeah. And he said, you know, we, Democrat shouldn't be talking about the bathroom issues. We should be talking about the kitchen table issues. And I thought, I kind of lost it on him. I was just like, because I just saw like, do you fucking believe in anything? Are you kidding me? You're a. growing a community under the bus because you think it's a political transaction.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And it's so gross, peppermint. It's disgusting. And fine, let's talk about kitchen table issues. Let's talk about making sure that corporations aren't able to interfere in our elections so that people can have enough pay, like a wage that actually helps them. But Rahmaman. You don't want to talk about that either. Newsflash, trans people have kitchen tape the same fucking kitchen table issue.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yes. That's the thing when the Democrats do that, and I don't know what, I don't know what they're going to do. I know it's going to take you. Lose. Not fight, fold. Yeah, hello. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Let's play had it or hit it. Had it or hit it salt and pepper packets. Had it. Had it. Listen, I love it. Why is there not enough pepper in the packet? there's all this salt and then when you go to get your food you know you get your mouth all fixed up to have nice to go meal because we live in new york honey we're cosmopolitan we're on the go and you
Starting point is 01:00:47 open up your seasoning packet your little salt and pepper and the pepper has like three granules of of pepper in there honey why don't they put the same amount i don't get it corporate greed corporate greed corporate greed capitalism it probably had it and probably those three pepper specs are just carcinogens It's not even real pepper. It's pepper flavoring. Girl, girl, girl, you know it's not pepper. That's not pepper. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 01:01:14 All right. Had it? Cercinogens. Fill it up with this. You've gone on this again, but I have to ask you again. Had it or hit it. Centress. I'm over the centrist.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I'm over the centrist. The jig is up. We know who you are. I see you. You're not, you are only working for capital. You are only working for your own. very, very, very close issues and you're not willing to risk anything for the greater good. And I have a problem with that because it doesn't seem like it's geared towards the humankind.
Starting point is 01:01:48 It doesn't seem like it's geared towards ultimate empathy. It's geared. It's in this mindset of like, we're just going to like keep the status quo and keep it. Yeah, keep it. It's like it's all about respectability politics and just like let's just look and act like we're nice and be cordial. and say yes, ma'am, and please and thank you. And that is all, that's it. Who cares if you're dying in the street? Who cares if you can't afford? Just be nice. Don't come in here being, you know, rowdy. Be really nice when you're telling people that you don't have any money and that you're
Starting point is 01:02:19 getting evicted and you're starving. Just be thankful. Like, that's the centrist way. And I can't with that. Incremental change. Do not lie to me and tell me that incremental change is that is what we have to have. We have not, honey, these right-wing people and these conservatives are not moving in any increments. No, they don't fuck around. There's no increments to be out of it's not, honey, by the time you look here, they're all the way down the line. Oh, yeah. And so we know now that that's not true. Incremental change is not true. And the only thing that's the through line is seeing these progressive establishment Democrat politicians say, oh, well, we lost, but let's raise money. And I'll be here in 10 years and we'll still be losing, but just let's raise money.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Oh, gay pride. I'll march at the parade. Yay. Okay, that's that. Oh, you can't get married. But I, gay pride. Oh, you can't have your rights. Oh, they just took the right away. Oh, now you can't have an abortion. Oh, oh, I respect women. Can you raise money? We're so losing. We have a game. Well, you know, I get angry. When I get irrational, I like to think about doing things like this. And I would imagine that this is the way the leftists would govern. if they had kind of a maga-style psychosis. So you and I get into the White House, okay? And I'm going to be like, ROM, you didn't support trans issues? Absolutely zero LGBTQ plus in your life. If there's a movie that one LGBTQ person worked in,
Starting point is 01:03:50 I don't care if it's a makeup artist, a hairdresser, you're banned from watching it. No Mexican restaurants for anybody in the Bible Belt. You don't like black people, but you watch sports. Fuck you. You can't watch sports anymore. I would just start banning them all from doing, anything that they enjoyed that contributes to our beautiful multiculturalism now.
Starting point is 01:04:09 What a bland life that would be. Cooler heads prevail. And I wouldn't, you know, obviously do that. But I think about it all the time. Like, imagine what this city or any city would be without the LGBTQ plus community. Imagine what sports would be like. Acting would be like just your everyday life without black people or immigrants. We don't have that much.
Starting point is 01:04:32 but what America has is multi-culturalism. That's our culture. Preach, honey, that's it. You know? But in addition to that, like you said, this just occurred to me. We're not going to disappear, right? Like, we don't disappear. Black folks aren't going to disappear.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Immigrants aren't going to disappear. Mexican folks, disabled folks, trans folks. We're not going to disappear. So we have to ban the whites. The whites. The whites disappear. Let's try that. Let me stop.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Let me stop and get dragged. But one of the thing I do want to say is I think that they are okay. They like the fact that, listen, they know that these human beings aren't going to disappear, but how much more desperate will this group of human beings be to accept the little crumbs that we give them if we can make sure that they don't have access to the equality that we're all, that says we're supposed to have in the Constitution. And so that's what ends up happening is these people who are anti-trans up here, they like the fact that we're losing access to all these different things that make our lives better
Starting point is 01:05:31 because they don't want to see a trans person prevail and be, you know, prosperous. They want to see a trans person out in the street who's just desperate for any little thing that you'll give me because then they have control over us. When we're desperate, we have control. Like when women weren't able to work out of the home and couldn't have their own bank accounts and couldn't have, certainly couldn't make decisions about their own bodies, but they were stuck in these marriages that they couldn't get out of. They were desperate.
Starting point is 01:05:58 And so then they, then, you know, then you're not thinking. about getting your freedom or trying to be prosperous. You're just thinking about how am I going to have a roof over my head? Well, I better do what this man says. And then we saw women were marrying people that they would have never wanted to marry just to have a place to live. And they're like, okay, I'll raise kids. I'm not, I'm not disparaging having a family. People do that and they love it and all these different things. I didn't have no kids. But there were certainly women who were, who were like queer or whatever they were in the 50s who were stuck in these relationships who didn't want to be in these relationships.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And then they were going to key parties and swinging at night because they were like, I got to do something. And that was like a widespread thing. Well, it's not as big anymore, I think, at least not on the surface, because people can make their own decisions. And they're trying to roll that back because they see these men and power, see that when people can make their own decisions, they're not desperate. And then they're not paying attention to us and uplifting our mediocrity.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Yeah, and then maybe they don't like men as much. Hello. I mean, you've heard about all this like, I'll tell you what's happening in the Bible Belt right now. I've never seen so many middle-aged women switching teams. They are flat out switching teams. I mean, women I knew that were married three kids. Next thing you know, they're married to a woman. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:07:15 I'm telling you, this midlife lesbianism is just really on the rise in the Bible Belt. How goodness for that. Moving along, had it or hit it, sucking your teeth in public. Can't stand it. I sit in a car or wherever I am, whether you're in a car on the train, wherever at close proximity with a stranger. A lot of times he's a man. Give us an example.
Starting point is 01:07:38 People do that in Oklahoma all the time. There's nothing in you. What's in your tooth, sir? They got a toothpick and they'll go. Darling, tell you what, don't get this meal. Sir? Yeah. Sir, go brush your tooth.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. What's going on, honey? Is there something? Did you get it? Did you get it? Do you need my help? Do you need my help? Like I don't get, I just, it really, really, it burns my britches. All right. Had it or hit it, white women. Present. Had it with the white women who, okay, okay, who do not see their place in dismantling anti-black racism in exchange for pro-white feminism. there are white women who think, I mean, we saw in the 20s, women got the right to vote in our country.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Black women were left behind. Black women were involved in that fight, but left behind for another, what, 30, 40 years, you know, until the 60s, and which is being attacked again, we need white women to stand up and realize that their place in the patriarchy is not suitable. as an exchange for throwing all these other communities under the bus. And being able to be the woman who's in charge of the corporation that's kicking people out of
Starting point is 01:09:13 their homes and poisoning the water and polluting the atmosphere, that's not, you're not winning. How do you think Christine Nome's doing learning this lesson right now? I don't think about that, bitch. I don't know I think that she did she just step down or get fired I don't I believe she was fired and then placed in charge of the shield
Starting point is 01:09:42 or something yeah yeah and then her husband I call big titty tritty Tittia Tatia Tatiaia Titty Brian so he said to his dominatrix I saw the I listened to the video the recording he wanted to
Starting point is 01:09:58 be a trans bimbo bumbo slut named Crystal and here's the thing he wants to be his wife I wouldn't that's what it sounds like
Starting point is 01:10:12 does and here's the thing I mean big titty Brian I you know I I could feel badly that he's not able to express himself
Starting point is 01:10:24 or be who who wants to be when you're a part when you're married a woman the shot of dog number one and then that's before we even get to the goat. You know, she killed a goat too. Did she shot the goat?
Starting point is 01:10:36 Why? Because she's a psychopath. What does she do? Did she shoot it because she was hunting and going to eat the goat? No, I think she was mad at the goat and shot it. Why are their goats around? Okay. It's just mag a shit.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Or get away from animals. Like, what are you doing? It's just mag shit. Okay. Had it or hit it, billionaire bedwetters. What I mean by this is you've got Ken Griffin, who owns $150 million, apartment Central Park South. Zoran was like, hey, Ken Griffin, you need to pay Pieter Tateau tax. Ken Griffin goes on TV. Wet's the bed. Jeff Bezos recently went on TV. He said he thought
Starting point is 01:11:15 Trump was, what do you say? More mature, what do you say, you guys? More mature and more level-headed or something. Then what? Than Trump 1.0. Goodbye. I have to go. Is it time to go? Yeah. And then he said he was tired of billionaires getting villainized. So I call this billionaire bedwetting where these men have bank accounts that could choke a bowl and they get on television and act like they're the victim. So had it or hit it billionaire bedwetters. Absolutely had it. I can't with billionaires, let alone if they're wetting the bed. I don't want billionaires to do anything. But I don't want, I don't want somebody, I don't want to be with somebody who only has $50 who's wet the bed. And so I don't want to be with somebody who, and it's not because they only have $50,
Starting point is 01:12:01 it's because they're wedding the bed. So no, and if you have a bed wedding situation, that's a health issue, then that's your own thing. But listen, you billionaires, we can't talk to billionaires because they're not going to listen. They're so self-centered. And I do think that there's something about being a billionaire that puts you out of touch with being a human being. Yeah, it just does. And the fact that we're hearing so many of these billionaires and Peter Thiel and and Andreson and just like, or not Andreessen. Who's the guy who is behind, he's a tech. guy who wanted to be like the tech feudalist. Yarvin. Yarvin. Curtis Yarvin, yeah. When you read the musings of these people, it's out of control. And it doesn't seem like it's aligned with anybody who wants to do anything good for people or humanity.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And there has to be a line where people are saying, listen, look, y'all, I know you feel like you're a capitalist, but you're not. You're a laborer. You are a worker. If you're listening in this podcast, you are a worker. You are working class. I don't care how much money you have in your bank account. If you don't have a private jet and you don't already have a bunker,
Starting point is 01:13:05 yeah. Today, you are not a capitalist. And you're obviously not a billionaire. And everything we do is geared towards coddling these people. Yes. And all they do is wet the bed. And caring about their feelings. I've had it with them, darling.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Let's say, fuck them. You have enough money. You're on your own. Let's focus on people. Let's do what this, at least with this country and like the call to humanity. He says that it's supposed to do is take care of people. All right. Had it or hit it.
Starting point is 01:13:34 New York City Pride. Absolutely hit it, honey. I am so excited about Pride. Tell my audience what's going to happen at Pride. Oh my gosh. It's going to be fun. You are the... I'm one of the Grand Marshals for Pride this year.
Starting point is 01:13:49 I'm so honored. So I've been involved in the Pride Parade and Pride March for years. It's always, it's a gas, darling. It's always so much fun. But this year, uh, considering. considering where the attacks on the trans community, considering where we are in this world, the fact that the New York State Pride Committee has named the theme is for all of us, which was something that should resonate with everybody,
Starting point is 01:14:16 but it's something inspired by Marsha P. Johnson, trans woman who is key and instrumental in the modern sort of gay rights, LGBT rights movement back from Stonewall. And so knowing that we have her as inspiration really feels good for me to be able to step in to those shoes and sort of pick up and carry the torch where she left off. And so if you're going to be in NYC, Pride Month, everybody knows is June. New York City Pride is the end of the month. Famously, you know, now 55 years, I think, after the Stonewall uprising in the heart of New York City, Greenwich Village, where police officers were, you know, attacking the LGBT community, raiding a gay bar, and then also focusing and targeting
Starting point is 01:15:06 trans sex workers and people who were on the street who didn't have all the money and the protection that they would normally have. So 50-something years later, here we are. We're going to be marching for pride. We're going to be marching to tell people that we're out and proud. We're not going anywhere, but we're also ready for the fight. What do you think about our mayor? I absolutely love the job that he's doing. How I feel about him on the side, I love him. I think he's great, but I don't want to psych myself into being like, it's just him, it's just him. He could mess up one day and then we'll hold him accountable.
Starting point is 01:15:42 What I love is his ability to want to be held accountable, the way that he is operating in what feels to be a very transparent manner. And he came in the door principled. And that we have that. I know that the city and the people in the city are going to be so much better off. And I see people online all the time saying, well, the billionaires are going to leave and everybody's going to move and I'm like, honey, let them move. Bye.
Starting point is 01:16:08 The billionaires have more than one house. Yeah. If I had six houses, I wouldn't care what was going on in one of them. I'd go to another one. Let them go to another city and not pay taxes. Yeah. Let them go to another city and not have to worry about like how they're damaging the local economy. Let's focus on the people who only have one place to live and go to work, sometimes the two, three jobs to try to stay in the city.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Let's focus on those people and the services and the quality of life that those people have. Everybody that's online thing, and well, the family are going to leave are in wherever they are, not New York City. And I know that if you ask them, would you want to move to New York City? The first thing I would say is, no, I would never move to that place because of the quality of life so bad. Why is the quality of life so bad? Sorry, I mean to scare you. Why is the quality of life so bad? Because people can't afford where they live, because the services are so bad, because
Starting point is 01:17:03 the things are failing. And now because we have a mayor, a former mayor in Adams, who left us with $12 billion in debt, of course the services are going to be bad. Of course the quality of life is going to go down. So now we have somebody who's helping to slow that down and fight against it. And so I think the work that he's doing, he gets an A for me right now. And I'm always going to keep watching. And I'm so happy that he instituted and implemented the mayor's office for LGBTQ Plus Affairs.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Yeah. I'm excited to see what work they do. Yeah, I've really enjoyed the woke Sharia portion. I'm here for it, honey. Yes. Okay. I want to talk about now you have Survival of the Thickest coming out on Netflix. Tell my listener, Survival of the Thickest.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Yeah. Tell me all about it. It's where it's a show headed up, inspired by, the book by New York Times, bestseller, I believe, fuck the New York Times, by Michelle Butow, who is such a wonderful person.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Comedy, she's an all-star in my book. She's super, like, inclusive in her thinking, and her approach to everything. And if you like Sex and City, I think you would like survival of the thickest. It's been on Netflix for now two years. We just left our second season,
Starting point is 01:18:21 and we're about to drop season three. It drops on July 7th. And I'm super excited, some great things in store. And last season, my character got married on the show. And that was a wonderful, like, titillation for me. But Michelle says that she wanted to make sure that the trans community was seen in a way that we're not usually observed and not usually seen. She wanted to show trans people being loved and adored and treated like everybody else who deserves to be loved and adored and treated. And that just, it really made me feel so good.
Starting point is 01:18:56 And I love what we have in store for season three. So people should tune in. It's all going to drop on the same day. You can binge it in like, like a day. And lastly, you and I met and became friends through our involvement with Glad. And you were on the board, correct, glad? Yes. I'm justly, I'm still on the board for one more year.
Starting point is 01:19:15 It's my last year on the board. But it's been a great wild ride watching everything that's been happening outside. but yeah, Glad is a wonderful organization. They are at the front, not only are they leaders in making sure that there's fair representation and accurate representation for the LGBT community in media, but now beyond that because media and this nightmare of politics that we're in, they're able to track
Starting point is 01:19:44 everything from the roles in LGBT roles in film and television, but also making sure that people have fair representation in social media, which is a really important thing. They have their new initiative, the Common Ground Project, which I'm really excited about. Anybody wants to go to my social media, Peppermint 247, they can click on the link for the Common Ground Project, which really is sort of a new approach to attacking all this anti-LGBT rhetoric
Starting point is 01:20:14 that turns into bills and laws and policy and has real life implications. And so I'm proud of the work that Glad is doing, and I'm happy that we've been able to team up. I love it. Okay, Peppermint, thank you so much for coming to share your grievance. We did it. I want to have you on again already. Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:34 All right. We'll see you all later.

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