I've Had It - Private Eyes, Public Places
Episode Date: February 7, 2023Jennifer and Pumps welcome Private Investigators Bari Kroll and Jen Rosant, who impart advice on what to do when you see a red flag in your spouse. Meanwhile, Jennifer has had it with Pharmaceutical c...ommercials. Subscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IveHadItPodcast Follow Us: I've Had It Podcast: @Ivehaditpodcast Jennifer Welch: @mizzwelch Angie "Pumps" Sullivan: @pumpspumpspumps Special Guest: @blaureninvestigations & @jenrene_rosant
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That was good. That was pretty good.
That was pretty good.
That was my best swear.
Pumps, what have you had at what this week?
Okay, I've had it with something that I just learned the name of.
I was describing to Kylie why is my internet Instagram thing?
Every time I open it, it's like these women just eating this weird shit.
And it's just every single time it's just reals.
And I'm always like, what the fuck are they eating?
And why are they eating so much?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Well, it's called mukbang mukbang mukbang.
Mukbang mukbang.
What does that mean?
It means eating weird shit on the internet as far as I know.
But yeah, it's gross.
Do you not ever get that?
No.
It's this like beautiful girl.
Okay.
That's just sitting there that's maybe 80, 90 pounds.
I mean, teensy, teensy.
And it has all this weird shit she's eating.
Okay.
And it's just like one after the other, after the other, like a bite, a bite.
You know why this is probably happening to you?
Because you're constantly brow-beating me
about not having snacks in the office.
This whole thing was created in your iPhone.
To torture you.
Your iPhone hears it.
Yes.
Snacking, snacking.
So then it's giving you this algorithm of these,
what are they called?
What's it called?
Mukbang, MUK, B-A-N-G.
And I think Kylie says that people like to watch other people eat on the internet.
Which I think that's weird.
Like I get people want to watch people have sex like porn.
That seems okay.
I mean, being in the porn addict that you are.
Well, I'm a porn star.
Totally.
Yes, yeah, totally see how that would be right in your world.
But I'm just saying like,
of all this shit you can watch on the internet,
you're gonna watch somebody eat something weird.
And like when you say something weird,
what you talking about a cricket or what a weird...
What if it was like an alive squid?
Like ate it while it was alive?
It's weird.
It is weird.
I've never heard of that.
I mean, I haven't seen that.
And I'm probably now going to,
because my phone's in the recording studio.
Right, and it's gonna start coming up.
You just completely dicked me over.
Yes, sorry.
Yet again.
Yet again.
Yet again, you porn star.
Dick over.
Pumps.
Stormy Pumps.
Let me tell you what I've had it with.
Okay, land on me.
I've had it with stupid advice.
Okay, let me tell you one.
So you'll be like at a wedding reception in the mother of the groom or the father of the bride.
I want to give you guys some advice.
Yes.
I've never go to bed.
Angry.
Okay, number one that is such bullshit, unrealistic.
Anybody who says that they've never gone to bed mad at their significant
other is a fucking liar, a lying liar to the most extreme.
I mean, it's unbelievable how unrealistic of a goal that is, right?
And what unrealistic advice it is, because sometimes you're angry, believable how unrealistic of a goal that is. Right.
And what unrealistic advice it is, because sometimes you're angry because you're fucking tired.
Right.
And you know, has nothing to do with the other person.
And sometimes you need to sleep on it.
Sometimes you can't resolve an issue in one night.
I would say more often than not sleeping on it is better in any type of anger situation,
not just marriage.
Right.
Although you and I, for sure, in our heyday of having marital problems, would drag out
the spouse.
Oh my gosh, for no reason.
It's your, no, for lots of reasons.
I mean, for lots of reason, but in the moment, it was like, we were mad about something
that happened four days ago, and it just happened right then.
Get your ass out of bed.
Right. Let's fucking dissect this.
I'm mad.
I want to talk.
Yes.
Oh, I thought you meant to the other, to the spouse.
Like wake up and start brow beating
ever something happened a week earlier.
I mean, I've done that too.
No, I'm talking about in the throes of marital problems.
Right.
Like I'm talking about rearranging the deck chairs
on the Titanic.
Yes. The marriage is red alert.
It is imploded in a nuclear bomb style.
Multiple times.
Right.
I have woken up.
Hamster starts running in the brain about some mean bullshit that happened and I'm like,
get your fulking ass up.
I want to chew this up.
I want to talk about it.
I want to talk about it right. want to talk about it right this very second.
Absolutely.
Yeah, so I just think that kind of advice
for our younger listeners,
you're gonna go to bed at times,
mad at your spouse.
It's just gonna happen.
They're gonna go to bed, mad at you sometimes.
It's just going to happen.
It is, it's human nature.
We get mad.
Time happens.
Apologies happen.
Therapy occurs.
Sometimes people have to go to rehab.
That's neither here nor there.
And then, you know, you can resolve things.
I have been to several weddings where they're like, what's your advice for the bride and
groom?
Like they're asking the guests.
That's so stupid.
My senior response is, you don't want mine.
I have no marital advice to give.
I think that relationships are so unique to the couple.
You know, for example,
Jen and Nilly like to sit on the same side of the boot.
Right.
I think that's stupid, right?
You think that's stupid.
We've had it with that.
But that is, you know, something else you're super into.
Right.
Well, I would like to welcome everybody to, I've had a podcast, I'm Jennifer, I'm Angie,
we call her Pumps.
And today we are going to talk about a very, very interesting subject for all women and
men across this great country of hours. And I don't want to exclude the three to four
international listeners we have.
So, Sadie or Rabie, I'm talking to you.
But we're talking about when you're in a relationship
and your antennas go up.
And you know something's not right.
Maybe your partner or your spouse or your boyfriend or your girlfriend
is looking at their phone a lot, but they're hiding their phone from you.
And you're like, that's weird.
He's keeping that phone in that pocket 24 or 70.
He used to have it out.
And then you confront the person, why are you being so weird about your phone?
And then they kind of say, I'm not being weird about my phone.
Why aren't you minding your own business?
And all of a sudden, slowly this narrative starts to change.
We're something that was all accessible at all times out in the open.
You start sensing these secrets.
One could argue that perhaps you're being gaslit a little bit, right?
We were gaslit before there was a name.
Yes.
Pumps and I have horrible pickers
when it comes to picking life partners.
Horrible.
We can teach a seminar on how not to pick a husband.
I agree.
I think we should start a service for parents to hire us
with their daughter's fiance. And if we'd like that person and give it a go, call off the wedding immediately.
Immediately, especially pumps like some.
Right. Yes. And if I say, oh my gosh, absolutely not, do not marry, marry immediately.
Put a lasso on that motherfucker, get him down to the courthouse, marry him right then.
Yes. Because I am 100% the
worst picker.
I probably should have been just taken out of the jeep pool at birth.
But no, no, I have the three greatest kids in the world, but I'm just saying, if you
look at my track record, well, I do want to insert this one caveat listener, and it is that
right now, and you've probably heard the episode
with my magnificent husband, Josh,
we are in a great space now,
and we've been together 20 years,
but we have gone to hell and back multiple times.
And there have been instincts and instances
in our marriage where my antennas were up
and alert, and I thought something is a miss here.
Something is fucking wrong here. He is fucking lying to me. And then I confront him and then I get
more lies. And then what happens is your sanity gets questioned. You think, am I going crazy?
Or are my instincts correct? And for those of you that have been in this type of
relationship before, and it doesn't necessarily have to be an alcoholic, it could be a narcissist,
or let's just face it, people are kind of broken and messed up. Right. And a lot of this stuff comes
to light when we partner with other people and live in the same house. Yes. It all of these issues
kind of come to the surface and they play themselves out and I know this because I've spent an obscene amount of money on therapy.
Oh my gosh. Can you even imagine if we got a dollar amount on the therapy?
It's a lot. Oh my gosh. An embarrassing amount. We could probably buy Twitter. No.
I don't think so. But I think that for those of you out there that find yourselves in a relationship and
you know something's amiss, your antennas are up and you're confronting the person about
it and they are circling back to you and telling you you're crazy.
But I want everyone to know that number one, you're not crazy.
If your antennaes consistently keep going up, though that instinct in our brain is telling us that something're not crazy. If your intent is consistently keep going up,
though that instinct in our brain is telling us
that something's not right.
And then if you go to your significant other
and they're telling you you're crazy,
you genuinely start to feel crazy.
Right.
And some people go to great links to confirm their reality
because their partner or their significant other
isn't giving it to them.
Right. They're not giving them the truth. They're not giving them the facts. And I'm going to give you a prime example.
So when pumps was married, we were suspicious that her husband was up to no good.
So we decided we were going to do a reconnaissance trip. Okay.
Here's an attorney.
And we go and scope out the office, right?
And we're like, okay, so what we can do tomorrow is we can get our babysitter's car.
And we can go stake out across the street.
We look across the street and there is a closed down bank.
100% closed, right? bank. 100% closed.
It's 100% closed and we're like perfect.
We can back in there, we can see the parking lot.
Great view.
Perfect view.
Perfect view.
I don't know what we thought we were going to see
other than lawyers walking in and out of a building,
but at the time it seemed like a rock solid idea.
Rock!
And I wonder what did theitter think when we were like,
we need to take your car?
Right.
That's neither here nor there.
It's a totally different story.
So, we perceived the next day to put on baseball caps, sunglasses, and we wear black.
Right.
And we didn't play in that, but we both did.
We get the babysitter's car.
We go through the drive-through of Taco Bell as most people that are conducting a reconnaissance
trip to.
You've got to eat while you're on the lookout.
We back into the bank that we had confirmed had closed down.
We had backed in to the bank and we start eating our taxi mounts or tacos and our burritos.
Hot sauces flying around the car. We see a man in a business suit exit the building and then we see a man in a business suit enter
the building. That's all we got. That's all we got. So we're eating and we like adrenaline's pump
in. We're waiting for the shoe to draw. Right. And then all of a sudden pumps goes,
is this bank open? I saw the light.
And there was like at the corner of my eye,
I saw the light like a green light.
And I was like, like that the lane is open.
So we turned around and there's a big drive through bank window.
Huge blank glass window with the tellers.
For, for tellers sitting there like what are they?
We're back to our course or what?
We're back to and they're staring at us and we have burritos.
He got a farm mouse in cognito in cognito.
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's
dropping. It's dropping. So we leave the bank. Okay. And we're so
fucking dumb. We then go park in this parking lot that's adjacent
to the bank. And it's like right on the side of the bank.
And then the tellers get to leave for lunch.
Oh god, I got that one.
Oh, listen, I'm bare with me.
I gotta get through this.
Then all the tellers that had just saw these crackheads
with burritos back into the back of the frog quag.
They all leave for lunch and then they look
across the street and they see us still eating hard to things.
Oh my God, I'd forgotten the tellers spotted us after lunch.
It was so horrifying.
Like, it was so bad.
The point we didn't give up.
No, we remained steadfast to the reconnaissance trip.
Right, we doubled down.
But, listen, I share this because I want you to know
that when you're being lied to
and somebody questions your reality,
you will get your best friend and you will get talk about
and you will get the fucking babysitter's car and you will back into a fucking open bank.
Right.
With four eyewitnesses.
So crazy you are.
And we didn't crack anything big.
No, but in this episode, we're kind of talking about this, the art of conducting an investigation on a line
liar significant other.
Line liar who lies a lot.
And we have some guests that this is great shit listener.
These guests are private investigators out of the tri-state area, which is like New York,
New Jersey, Pennsylvania.
It is an all- all female run PI firm. And our guest names are Barry Crowell in Gen Roseant.
And they are gonna join us because they have seen some shit.
And I'm gonna take a wild crack at it.
I bet they wouldn't have backed into the open bank.
I bet they would not have.
They might be just a touch better than we were at it.
They might be.
They might be.
Hi guys. How you doing? They might be. Hi guys.
How you doing?
We're great.
How are you?
Good.
So I'm Jennifer and this is Angie, but we call her Pumps.
Hello.
Thanks for being here.
So we were just talking before you guys came on because one thing we were not very
good at doing is picking spouses.
We were both just abject failures.
Okay.
My husband is, I mean, he was a rough diamond.
I have shined the shit out of that motherfucker.
He's fantastic.
But it took a long time.
About 20 years.
And so we were just talking about, and I think that a lot of people can relate that you're
in a relationship and your antennas go up and you're like something's off.
And then you talk to your spouse or your partner
or boyfriend girlfriend and they start saying,
no, you're crazy.
And so your reality is like completely cracked.
It's just that has no foundation.
And so you go to these great links to try to confirm
that you're not a crazy person
because these antennas just keep going at.
Enter the all-female sensation
out of the tri-state area, Jennifer.
I love it.
And so awesome.
We did our own investigations,
and we were really bad at it.
Really bad at it.
Really bad.
I don't think that's true.
We were. We were pretty good on the phone it. Really bad. I don't think that's true. We were.
We were pretty good on the phone records.
You were.
I was really good.
She really wanted to get her husband's phone records.
And this was in like 2008-ish maybe?
Early 2008-ish.
They weren't.
So it was still allowed.
Yes.
It was with his business, like the phone records
are with his business.
And so she wasn't able to log in and see the call log.
And I was like, I will get those fucking fund records,
Poms.
She goes, there's no way you're going to be able to.
So we drive to the AT&T store.
And as we're pulling up, she is so naive.
Her husband's like office managers pulling out.
She goes, oh my God, look, there's such and such.
And I go, well, he obviously just sent him
to get the fund record.
Like, you know, you've been crawling up his ass to get the fun records.
So I go in and she's like a nervous wreck.
And I'm like, go into the AT&T store and I'm like, hey, I work for this guy.
And he's like so mean to me.
And I was supposed to like completely do this expense report.
And I messed up and I lost the phone record bill that y'all sent.
And can you please do me a song and get it from him?
I'm gonna lose my job.
Can you please do it?
She printed the whole things I walked out
and just put them in her app.
Right, it was unbelievable.
I'm going to lose my job.
To this day, he and his company could never get those records
because it was an overnight record.
It was within 24 hours.
And he never, ever, ever, they could never get in
but we got him.
Jennifer got him. Jennifer got him.
We got him.
So that was my most.
That was your claim to fame.
That was the ninja.
Yeah, that was it.
Yeah, that was a really good one.
But what we want to hear from you all is what type of people hire you and is everybody
fucking around on everybody?
Okay, well, I'll start with that.
No, not everybody's fucking around on everybody.
Okay.
And it's people like you.
Right.
So the intent is are going up.
They still, like you explained it.
You explained it perfectly.
The reality is shattered.
They're listening to their partner.
The partner says, no, you're crazy.
And they're like, am I crazy?
It must be me.
Keeps telling me I'm crazy.
I have to be crazy. Right. And they are crazy. No offense. I'll tell you why. Because there are people
that come to us. We will give them video of a sexual act of whatever. They without
whatever they without listening to their own spidey sense, their little antenna that go up, we'll go back to the partner and say, I hired this private investigator and she showed me,
look, this video and you're getting a blowjob in the car. And he is. He's literally getting
a blowjob in the car. And you know what? She calls me and she says, you know, Barry, you know, I don't know.
I don't think you did a very good job.
I'm like, what do you mean I didn't do a good job?
And she goes, well, I showed Tony the video and he said, you know, your private investigator, you know,
it doesn't show us having intercourse.
I can't help you.
I cannot help you.
I cannot help you.
So talk about like, you know, reality shattered.
Like, and the gas I wanted.
But I think at some point, you know, at some point,
a person is, you know, a true victim.
But then after they are exposed to the truth,
then they are a willing victim. Right. You know, they are exposed to the truth, then they are a willing victim.
Right. You know, they are willingly re-victimizing themselves. Initially, people are victims. But
then when you're presented with the truth and you choose to keep going down that path and getting
abused, it's you're being a willful victim. Well, and I think part of the reason is you don't want
to believe it. Like you will do anything not to believe it
because I do divorce law and we're in no fault state.
So we don't have to prove extramarital affairs
or anything like that.
They're saying the same.
But it's just like, they tell you these terrible stories
about what their spouse has done to them.
And just terrible.
And like I go home and I worry,
like is it gonna be okay?
Is she gonna be fine or is he gonna be fine?
And then the next thing you know,
it's like we're gonna reconcile,
da da da da da da, and I'm just like, okay.
I mean, I don't judge it because I've been that person before
that wanted so desperately not to believe the truth.
But it does become like, like you said,
like you kind of get what you deserve or not.
No, you become a willing, like you kind of get what you deserve, not, you become a willing,
like you become a part of it.
It's just a pit.
Yeah, just you can't be helped.
It can't be helped.
It's right.
I tell people all the time,
and I just had this conversation
with a male client of mine
who has been my client young couple since 2017.
He is still unfortunately
blind because, well, he's a pus. You know, you have an affair with somebody who's
like at a gym and then, you know, you're the one who had the affair says, well, I
have to go to that gym. I love it. And you don't say, girl, if you go to that gym,
we're done. Right. That's a problem. Right. You're go to that gym. I love it. And you don't say, girl, if you go to that gym, we're done.
Right.
That's a problem.
You're done with the gym.
There's a million other gyms that you can go to.
You're done with this one.
You're not going back.
That's so true.
Well, here's what I want to circle back to.
And I know the listener wants to circle back to him.
And I'm poms, I know you're going to want to.
How do you get this footage of the BJ in the car?
Oh, my God.
I mean, walk me down that path, Jen and Barry.
Let's just, let's take us on a reconnaissance trip with you.
We're following this guy around, supposedly a cheating spouse,
fall in the dinner, everything is good.
They're having enjoying their dinner
and they get into his Jeep
and I'm following behind them,
I'm telling them all through like wine rolls.
He's with the mistress.
Yeah, he's dinner, he's with the mistress.
Okay, go on.
She left her car at the restaurant.
Okay.
He got in the car and we're driving
and they pulled into a park
and I pulled across the street
because I have to be careful.
I don't want to get made. But I want to, I have to be careful. I don't want to get made. I want to I want to seal the deal like I want to see action. Yeah, you know,
yeah, totally. I'm driving around and as I'm driving around I turn the lights off on my car
and I drive up next to them and I look and all I see is from the reflection on the street
and the girl had blonde hair and all I see is,
oh,
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unless my client has said to that person,
I'm gonna have you followed, right?
Yeah, you're not gonna get away with this.
I've got somebody to watch you, blah, blah, blah.
All right.
Most of the time, they are in their own world.
I literally hold up in a parking lot, right in daylight.
Right, they were so into each other.
Hold up right next to them, jumped in the back seat
and just filming right through my tinted windows
in the back, they're a no-club.
So I think that when they're in their zone,
they are not caring about what's going around them.
So sometimes it's a little easier than you think it might be.
I don't know.
That it might be. It's my experience. So I don't know. It's a around them. So sometimes it's a little easier than you think it might be. That it should be.
I don't know.
It's a weird thing.
It's like you're all nervous.
They're like, oh, they're probably on high alert.
They're cheating.
They're doing something wrong.
Nope, nope.
Unless somebody has kind of tarnished it.
Which they all do.
All the divorce clients, they rat themselves out before they do it.
I am going to go through your phone and blah, blah, blah, blah.
That's lit.
At five o'clock tonight, and I did it, I did it.
You were the worst.
I was the worst.
I was the worst.
I was the worst.
Let me share a story with you.
She would be a nightmare client.
I got the phone records.
I delivered the goods for her, but then she wouldn't fucking listen to me.
Blow it. Blow it. Her husband's out to like 5am, 6am. I got the phone records. I delivered the goods for her, but then she wouldn't fucking listen to me.
Louie!
So, her husband's out to like 5 a.m. 6 a.m.
She calls me the next morning
and she's like, he didn't get home to like 6 a.m.
I'm like, that's not good.
Whatever he's telling you, he's fucking lying.
So she confronts him and he makes up the story
that he's been at IHOP.
Okay?
International House of Pancakes.
With his buddies, Eaton Breakfast,
from 2 a.m. until 6 a.m. okay?
I'm like, that's not true.
She's, well, that's what he said he did.
I love that.
It's a dead, but it gets far worse.
It gets far worse.
I have to say that.
And so she said, I'm gonna go up to IHOP
and I'm gonna talk to the manager and see if he was there.
And I said, whatever you do, do not tell your husband that you're going to IHOP.
Just while I already did.
I go, let me tell you exactly what's going to happen when you walk into IHOP.
She said, what?
I said, you're going to go up to him.
You're going to ask him, was this guy in here?
He's going to say, yes, he's set there.
This is what he ordered.
Your husband and the manager are all going to have the same story, he's set there, and this is what he ordered, and your husband, and the manager are all gonna have the same story
because he's lifting the Benjamin.
I mean, there's just no fucking doubt about it.
So she calls me, she says, I'm just leaving, I hopped,
and it's exactly what he said.
Exactly, he has the scrambled eggs, the bacon,
and the pancake, and I'm like, hello.
Hello, let me ask you this.
Do you guys ever have like a total psycho like client?
One, no, they probably all are,
but I'm talking extreme who's like,
I think my husband has the potential to cheat.
Will you catfish him and see if you can get him?
Oh.
Okay, we don't catfish,
but we have had people that think
that out of their mind, husband's cheating.
I mean, there's some, that, I of their mind, husband's cheating.
I gotta tell you, that's more often than not. More often, they're not cheating
or they're not cheating with a person.
I mean, we had somebody not too long ago
like having a love affair with food.
She was convinced, he was cheating on her.
She went through phone numbers on his phone,
Pennsylvania numbers, gotta be a woman.
And the numbers didn't come back to anything.
We couldn't get hit on it.
So we're like, oh, maybe she's right.
And then the sun would be like,
definitely, every Saturday and Sunday,
where are you going?
Now the kid was 20.
It wasn't like a baby.
I'm not that cruel.
So it was an adult son saying,
Dad, mom wants to know where you're going every Saturday for two hours at a time. He's like,
I'm not telling you guys. It's none of your business. So she's like, Harry, he's not telling me anything.
She's like, she's definitely having an affair. I know who it is. It's just woman blah blah blah.
She's from Pennsylvania. He met her at work. She had a whole narrative. The narrative was set. Jen follows them. I follow them. I follow them all day. Barry's like, where's he
coming? Like, he left. He left. For a place he goes, he went to shop right. He comes out with food.
Okay. He never brings it home like a small bag. Sit in the car and eating the food. I don't know.
Maybe he just needs a snack before, you know?
And he just sits there.
And next thing, you know, we're now we're
out of Chinese restaurant.
And then a little while later, he grabs a slice of pizza,
the final straw, I'm like, Barry, he pulled into McDonald's.
And I think I just find it strange.
And he was eating it like, so she's like, Barry,
there's something wrong with him.
He just looks really depressed.
He was staring at his hair.
And he got the eyes, yeah, looking at his window,
you know, he was staring at the ice cream.
So when you tell the wife, like,
hey, here's the deal.
He is up to never good.
He's going to the Chinese restaurant and to make sure.
Oh, it's such a heart.
Is she believing?
She's right about snacks.
It's like, I swear to God. I said, it's, I swear to God.
I said, you know, you just drove around in eight.
I said, do you let him have snacks at home?
She's like, well, you know, we're losing weight
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, mm-hmm.
And that was the end of her.
If you think your significant other is f***ing around,
from the time they call you to,
to the time you've cracked the
case and you've got blow job footage, how much time has passed?
It depends. It depends. I'll quit. My rule of thumb is I say we do surveillance, we plan
on it for three consecutive days. Okay. Unless somebody's at a town or someone else is married
and they only have certain availability going on, I say,
they will see that person within one to three days. Something's happened the first day.
Like within hours, that's it, it's done.
Right. I had a case where a woman called me and she said,
you know, I had this other detective, we really didn't get anywhere,
but where we did get was, you know, my husband, I definitely think he,
I thought he was having an affair.
And he would always bring the suitcase with him.
He would wheel the suitcase to work from work like whatever.
And she said, one day the detective was like,
well, why don't you just look in the suitcase.
She's like, no, I don't want to.
I mean, you do it.
So the guy, she had this guy come into our house
and her basement, look in the suitcase. And there was women's clothing in it. So the guy, she had this guy come into our house and her basement, look in the suitcase,
and there was women's clothing in it. And she's like, oh my god, it's having an affair. There's
women's clothing in it. And it got to the point where I started watching him because she was convinced
that because she started going, finally going through the bag herself. And she said she would find
shoes that were like a size nine, that it was a she said she would find shoes that were like a size
nine, that it was a wig. I mean, shoes that were like size 11 rather and a wig and clothing.
And then she noticed her purses were missing. One day she was home and found pearls. Like a necklace
had broken. There were like pearls in the sink. So I watch him. And she's like, I just need, she's like, I want to be done with him.
And it turns this whole blackmail scheme too on top of everything else. So the guy was like loaded.
He was like, he was like a very well-known professional in the area. Everybody knew him. They looked
at them. They were like the king and queen of the town. And she said, I just want to have this
marriage. And I want my lifestyle.
And I got to get pictures of him.
I think he's dressing like a woman.
And sure enough, I was there one day,
parked outside the house where she said to me,
I'm gonna, we set it up.
I said, you go somewhere for the day and she did.
And sure enough, I'm at the house.
And I said, is your house for sale? Like you're expecting a real
letter or something? She's like, no, I don't think so. He had come outside to show me who
he was. I all I saw was a woman with a wig on and tall woman, blue sweater. I remember
it's in this day, what he was wearing. Blue sweater, black skirt, black tights and heels,
came outside, looked around,
and I'm like, he is having an affair.
Who's this? What is he?
I'm really sure.
I was going like,
point, so she go, comes home.
I'm like, you gotta go in the suitcase.
You gotta look in the suitcase
and you gotta see what's in there.
It was the exact outfit and wig
that I saw, wig with bangs, a blue sweater.
So he was cross-dressing and he wanted,
he knew I was there.
He wanted me to see him.
He started to get to the point where he was like exploring.
And that was one of the weirdest cases that I had.
That one was pretty bizarre.
And then he ended up like, well, choking her.
And she stayed with him.
So I don't know, like, he got so flustered,
she started like pressing him and questioning him,
like, what's going on?
And he just got really frustrated.
And one day he just choked her in the,
and I remember being in the parking lot of a Walgreens.
And she calls me at night and she's like,
I don't know what to do.
Like, you gotta go to the police.
She's like, I don't trust the police.
He's so well known, they don't know him.
You know, they're gonna think I'm lying
and they believe her and they arrested him.
And then she took them back.
So I don't know, that's one of those things again, how?
Wow.
You just, you don't know where to go with that.
So, I mean, together.
Of course they are.
We thought for a time that my ex has been might be gay.
Cause we were calling.
Okay, so let me, once we, once we got the phone records, we immediately go back to,
I think we're at my house.
And this is like all printed paper.
And we have highlighters, Marra lights.
And I mean, we have paper clips, staplers, and we are starting the system just of insanity,
insanity.
So her husband's an attorney and he's sitting in the conference room and there's like 10
to 15 people at the conference table.
And she just starts calling the numbers one by one.
She hits star six, seven, so it'll be anonymous.
And he's in a meeting and this partner's phone rings and it's a hang up.
Oh, God.
And then the person next to her rings and it's a hang up.
And then the next person rings and it's a hang up. And then the next person rings, and it's a hang up.
So she prank calls all of them.
And then he calls me and says,
quit calling everybody.
Ha, ha, ha.
Oh, fuck.
And then this one number consistently ends up showing up.
And so we sit out here it is again.
Do you have the two, four, three?
Number got the two, four, three.
And I have a sec.
Oh my God, the two, four, three is again.
Oh my God, it's the two, four, three. And then it's like, that, 3. And I have a stack. Oh my God, the 2, 4, 3 is again. Oh my God, it's the 2, 4, 3.
And then it's like, that's like seven calls in one day.
And it's like April 14th.
Well, it says CPA.
So we totally, I mean, we did, I mean,
we, you know, obviously she's divorced now.
But we did, I mean, we did our best to be badass
as like you all.
But if you did a great job. Yeah.
I think the prank calling, I mean, that's iffy.
We did back into a bank that was open drive-through
and were made by the tellers.
You know, talk about being made.
Yeah, we were made by all tellers.
We thought the bank was closed
and they had like a big.
You were me.
Yeah, we were, we were made a lot.
A lot.
But with all of these new tracking devices,
right, it'd be so much easier.
Yes.
You guys are amazing.
I love the all female vibe.
You're both gorgeous.
I love everything about it.
I love this so much.
I want you guys to do us a favor
and I want you to start thinking about some
of your good cases.
I think this could be a regular situation
because this shit is so good.
Because it's so relatable.
I was just, it's so relatable.
And nobody really, unless our listeners are like super functional,
well, that would be a problem.
If they're not such things,
I know.
If they like us, let's face it.
Thanks for being on.
I appreciate it.
See you soon.
See you soon.
We hope.
Yes.
Bye.
Bye. I think that is just the most inviable job. But I do think it's interesting. We hate it, see you soon. We hope. Yes, bye.
Bye.
I think that is just the most inviable job.
But I do think it's interesting.
One to three days.
It's going to happen in one to three days.
One to three days.
That's the limit.
But I mean, you think about it.
I mean, these people are Jonesin' for it.
One to three days, and they crack the case.
It'd be a good job.
Other than all the blowjob, she's the
eh, random men's dick.
I mean, that's just not fun to watch.
Take pictures of.
Would you think it'd be enjoyable?
I mean, I mean, no, I just think like,
there's an excitement to,
is he faking around, is he faking around, you go,
and then boom, oh my God, she's giving him a blowjob.
Not, I mean, yes, I mean, that would be the happy ending
to being a private detective.
For both of you.
Yes, for both the subject and for the private investigator.
I'd be like, yes, I got the guy.
Let's go.
They've probably seen a lot of creepy shit.
Yes, no doubt.
No doubt.
Well, listener, thank you so much for joining us.
I think that was such fantastic episode.
So fun.
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