I've Had It - Supremely Screwed

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

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to America's Top DEI Podcast featuring America's top legal eagle and America's greatest legal mind, America's top podcaster, my beloved best friend and co-host, Pumps. What have you had it with? Okay, I know this is going to anger a lot of people, but I've kind of had it with the clap to start. Because here's why. If we have someone in person and we do it, I feel like the world's biggest dipshit. For some reason when you and I are just in the room, I don't feel weird about it. But like when JVN was here, I just had this like, oh my gosh, this is so embarrassing. And I even get embarrassed in front of Josh. oh my gosh, this is so embarrassing. And I even get embarrassed

in front of Josh. No, more like, this is stupid. Like you're doing a cheerleading routine at 55. Right. Like I'm past my Dallas Cowboys cheerleader prime. So what do you think? I have to say, sometimes I think when we do the Patriots, Gay Tris, I think is everybody sick of this? And then you start calling like an eagle that we've kind of morphed into a beaver. And then I reminded at your advanced age that we could look breathtakingly ridiculous. But I'll tell you what, when Kylie reads the reviews and stuff, I think it fires people up. Yeah.

So what you think the claps, we do the I just what I want to do here is get feedback from the listener. Okay, that's a good idea. Should we roll out the clap, you know, only on Tuesdays and get a new routine for our Beaver on Thursdays? Should we do away with it altogether? Should we do a new intro? Should we have some sort of new way that we start the show? Or do you all like it? Are we just so sick of us we assume that you guys are sick of us? I think that's probably what it is. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with moderates. No. You don't say. I think when somebody says, well, I'm a moderate, they're allowing for some space in that statement that is exclusionary to marginalized groups. Meaning if somebody says they're moderate, then they don't go all the way in on DEI being a legitimate proposal for a very, very diverse nation like the United States of America.

Or they say, I'm moderate. And in that, what I hear is, look, I'm okay. The guy that cuts my hair, darling, he's gay. But you know, I'm moderate. I don't like all this other gay stuff. I just feel like they're just saying enough. And I just think right now at this stage in Trump's America, you're either bat shit crazy or you're for everybody.

Or you're not. Yeah. And so I just, I want to burn moderates to the ground. All moderates. All moderates. Red moderates, blue moderates, all of them. All of them. All of them.

I don't want to hear it. I don't want to talk about it. I want no part of any moderates and or moderation. That's fair. My question to you is then does an independent fall in the moderate category because they want to take side? No. No. Okay. No, because like, what's his name in? Bernie's name. Maine. Yeah, Bernie isn't independent, but no, I think sometimes he runs with the, there's another one, Angus, whatever. He's in Maine.

He's Susan Collins' fellow senator and he's an independent, but he always caucuses with the Democrats. I don't have, I don't take issues with independence because both political parties are beholden to corporate interests. So I have no issue with independence. I take issue with somebody saying, I'm a moderate. I just, I think it's bullshit. And what I think it is, is this. I think deep down, they're triple Trumpers. They're just embarrassed. In certain social circles, sophisticated social circles, they say they're a moderate because they know how depraved and disgusting the triple Trump MAGA movement is. And so they just say they're a moderate so they don't look like a racist. I think saying you're a moderate is like cover for not fighting for human rights. And you

cherry pick which groups get it and which ones don't. Yeah, I was thinking, then you have the luxury, if somebody presses you on it, to change your view based on the circle that you're in, just like you said. And I'm just going to say, I've always noticed it's white people that are moderates. to change your view based on the circle that you're in, just like you said. And I'm just gonna say, I've always noticed it's white people that are moderates. A lot of the problems in this country are because of white men and white women are right there with them nowadays.

White women are right there with them. I mean, I used to try to give a pass to white women, particularly in my age group, but my age group of white women, the worst of the worst. No, they're terrible. They're absolutely terrible. Not all. There's a lot of us like you and me, I mean, from your age group to my age group.

Which is four fucking years, just FYI. No, in one month it's four and a half and eight months or something. I think that there's a lot that really fight the good fight, but typically there's this there's a group of white women, especially in the South, that have so much internalized misogyny. Yeah. And it's really, really gross that they have no knowledge of history and the fight for civil rights before them for women's rights. And they don't realize that women's rights are human rights. They don't realize that.

Well, as you know, I was raised with internalized misogyny and didn't realize I had it until into my 30s and 40s. It didn't because I was so indoctrinated, and that's just how it was. I didn't realize it until I was well past you know my 20s and that's pretty terrifying. I would say even 40s pumps if we get really honest here. I mean there was probably starting to be an awakening in law school. I remember in your 30s I remember a lot of deference to the patriarchy. Absolutely. But when you're raised in a strictly conservative Christian household, it is a way of life. I agree.

All right. Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. She's the HBIC. And Mimamit Curtains. See, we forget about that. The Princess Diana podcasting.

Lot of things. Okay, we have Kiki the Magic Lesbian joining in. Kiki? Hi, I think I might switch things up because I have a suggestion on the intro from a listener in the form of a voice memo. Oh, great. This is from Ash.

Okay. Jen, Pumps, Kylie and Seth. This is Ashley and I'm here to solve your intro problem. I think you need to give a standard cacao to the patriots, gay triads, the triads, black triads and brown triads and a hearty fuck off to the MAGA hypocrites, billionaires, teddy babies, yak mouths, mega church pastors, lip smackers, bite shoppers, APEC, and anyone else you've had it with. Yeah. You're welcome. Thank you. That's a great idea. And how about, Kylie had no idea that was my grievance. She just

came right up with that. Okay. So here's the thing. I like, I, Kylie, I need for you to write all those things down because I'll need a cheat card. Yeah. And reading all of that off. But I also think one thing we really failed to talk about on this podcast and it's, it's my fault that I haven't highlighted one of your greatest accomplishments and shared it with a listener. You guys, the head beaver in charge, the Princess Diana of podcasting, America's favorite and smartest legal eagle was also an all-American cheerleader. And she had a hyper extended toe touch that would razzle dazzle the audience. Like you wouldn't believe. She knocked the socks off of the crowd with that toe touch. And she was, not

only is she the head beaver in charge, she was the head cheerleader in charge. And then when she went to summer cheerleading camp, she won All-American cheerleader. So instead of ready, one, two, three, I think you can say ready and I say, and together, okay. So try it. Okay, you say, do I say ready? You say ready. Ready, okay. Kylie needs it. We need more voices.

Let's try it again. Okay. Ready, okay. Kylie, you suck. I did it. I don't feel like you did. That was not a cheerleader voice. That was a total lesbian, lessee, like, hating cheerleaders.

I was a cheerleader once and I cried the first time I went out, so I quit. So this is not for me. Why did you cry? I think I was nervous. Cheerleading is not for everybody. It's not, it's not for me. It's not for the faint of heart.

All right, do we have any reviews, Kylie? We do. I actually have some book reviews today. Oh, excellent. Which we have never dove into. So this first one is titled, Love This Book, Five Stars, and they write, I already love and adore Jen and Pumps, but after reading their book, I've gained a whole new respect for my ladies. I laughed and cried a lot through the entire thing.

I loved it so much. Thank you for sharing yourselves with us. That is so nice. Kylie, did you make that? Yeah, all of these are written by me. I could have done it, except I don't know how to do it, but that was sweet enough. I could have written it. Thank you so much. Okay, let's hear another one. I haven't read the book reviews. I haven't either. I didn't even know there was a place for them. Okay, go on. Okay, this one is five stars titled Raw Unfiltered Truth and hit me right in the soul. And they write, I could not put this down. If I could give this more than five stars, I absolutely would.

As a 48 year old woman who's worn all the hats, mother, wife, employee, caretaker, fixer, peacemaker, life is a lazy Susan of shit sandwiches spoke to parts of me that I didn't even realize needed a voice. It's brutally honest in the best way. No sugar coating, no fluff. Just real life served up on a rotating platter of chaos, expectations, and the occasional moment of peace if you can catch it before it spins away. The audiobook made me laugh, cry,

nod in agreement, and most of all breathe. There's something powerful about hearing these words spoken aloud, like a friend who just gets it validation. It's a permission slip to drop the performance, own your story, and find beauty in the mess. For any woman who's ever felt like she's spinning in a world that expects her to hold it all together without breaking a sweat, this one's for you. Oh, my god. I'm kind of tearing up a little bit. These really are important to me.

You know, writing a book, writing this book was very difficult. Not sharing our stories, but the structure of getting them organized. And then, Pumps and I have always been real candid with each other. And when you're talking into the microphone, it doesn't seem so permanent. It goes into the microphone, Kylie puts it out somewhere on a cloud, it ends up on your device, you put in your ear pods, you're watching it on YouTube, and it's in one ear out the other, literally. And then the book, when we would write chapters, and then our collaborator would help us kind

of put them in order and then send them back to us and I would read them. I was like, oh, this shit's real. Right, it became so much more real than the podcast. You feel really vulnerable. That's what I was just gonna say. The hardest part for me with the whole book thing is not letting the story out or whatever, because my story, we, you know,

the people close in my life knew it, whatever, but it's the vulnerability. And I don't think it's vulnerability of being judged. It's more the vulnerability of, here are my feelings. This is how I felt. And I held onto those so tightly for so long. So yeah, the vulnerability was my hard part. Yeah, that was a hard part.

And then also mitigating for me, like, what is the important part to get out? What will help other people realize that problems are normal? Even really toxic, chaotic problems happen to the best of us without oversharing things that could be damaging or like a shiny object that takes away from the larger point, like damaging to the people I love. And so that was, it was hard to strike the right cadence to that. Yeah, no, I agree. And also, you know, talking about the permanency of it, it's like sometimes if I say something ridiculous and you call me out or vice versa, then it's over. But if you put something in a book, you can't be like, oh, I didn't mean to say that.

I mean, it's there. Yeah. You got it. It's here. Exactly. All right. Let's move along to some news stories that I want to share with class today. The first one is, the world's most jealous woman makes husband take a lie detector test

every time she returns home. Jealousy can lead to extreme behavior in relationships, as seen in Debbie Wood, dubbed the world's most jealous woman. After meeting her husband Steve on Facebook in 2001, Debbie's insecurities spiraled. She checks his emails, bank accounts, and phone and demands a lie detector test whenever he returns home, which reminds me of one of Pumps' chapters in Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches where we were conducting an investigation into the actions of her ex-husband. And I mean, it was a months long investigation, phone records, bank records, whatever we could get our hands on.

And this MF are still gaslighting her. So we escalated it to an FBI agent. To an off-duty FBI agent coming to my dining room table. To do a lie detector test. And here's what's so fucked up about Pumps and Me listener. It's the worst of times. I mean the worst of times. Rock bottom. It is horrific what she's going through on multiple, multiple levels. Like, you know, she thought if she was a good girl and she prayed to Jesus, nothing bad would ever happen to her. So that was a huge betrayal. Can't even imagine what her husband was up to. You have to read the book for that. And it goes on and on and on. Anyway, she and I investigate, we uncover all the most unsavory stuff you could ever imagine. And the idea of the off-duty FBI agent bringing his polygraph machine to

Pumps' house excited us. We were happy. We were giddy. Looked forward to it. Had multiple prep meetings and phone calls and multiple follow-up phone calls. I even called her during the lie detector test and she got really mad at me and hung up on me and I just immediately called her right back because I felt I had FOMO. I had FOMO. I had FOMO. How fucked up is that? No, it's fucked up. It is really, really fucked up. I mean, it was. We had fun prepping.

I mean, like the world is on. My world was literally falling apart piece by piece. We were giggling and laughing like we had just won the lottery. We're making color-coded investigation notebooks for the off-duty FBI agent. Right. He had to learn something from us. Tell them about how when he walked down, how you just flung the notebooks in front of him. Oh, yeah. So, Jennifer and I had, I would say, three two-inch binders, color-coded, I would say three two inch binders color coded on different areas of contradictions and you know lie detector. It was all of course in timeline order and so the FBI agent walks in with this

little purse thing or his little rolly deal with this machine and I was like, he's like setting up and I walk over and I'm like, oh here, these are for you to be questioned in the polygraph, like these binders. And I'm sure he's just like, you need a fucking straight jacket lady. Like you're a nut. Like if you're doing all this and have three binders, go to the fucking courthouse, call it.

Like stop, save the money, do the filing fee. Yeah, so that was not one of my proud aromaths. But going back to this deal, so I mean, I did that one time and it was super well-deserved. Totally well-deserved. Nutty, but well-deserved. All right, next up we have the soft life era is real. 74% of women now say they want a man who pays for everything. The quote soft life movement defined by luxury ease and minimal stress is driving a cultural shift in dating expectations. A recent global study by ISBOS found that 74% of women preferred relationships where the man assumes full financial responsibility

especially in long-term dynamics. Advocates say the arrangement allows women to focus on family, wellness, and emotional peace, while critics argue it reinforces outdated gender roles. Whether seen as empowerment or dependency, this trend reflects changing priorities and how modern women approach relationships. My response to this would be the following. Have him pay for everything and keep all your money and your career in your own name and don't co-mingle yours at all, ever, and file income taxes separately. Yeah, and that's really good advice.

This to me is like, you know, they're saying to focus on family and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's just like, you are putting yourself in a power dynamic if you do that, and let somebody be financially responsible for you. And I know this from experience. You are putting yourself in a low power position and you are going to lose 10 times out of 10. Well, and here's the thing, the people behind this movement are the same people that are writing Project 2025. These are the same people that are, it's a mega church trickle down where they have,

I think the Mormon church has all these influencers out there that do all this trad wife stuff, and they're funded by the Mormon Church to glamorize the faith and indoctrinate people online. So a lot of this is propaganda made through glitzy reels online that propagandizes the youth that is trying to find their own identity and very malleable to any hint of suggestions. So if there's this beautiful woman, she's got a smoking hot body and she's got the newest Birkin bag and then she's frying bacon and her husband comes home and he's just as hot as all get out, comes over, kisses, and then she's got this fabulous outfit on.

She talks about how great it is that her man pays for everything. You're 17 to 25 or something. There can be something intoxicating about that. So then you heart that, you favorite that, and then you're fed more and more and more. So this is online propagandizing and brainwashing. And I would even go as far to say psychological warfare. This is how Russia came into our 2016 elections and radicalized a lot of the American right and that causes a lot of the polarization we see now. It's the same tactics and now they're attacking young ladies. And it makes me feel very sad for women because women in general fall prey to so many things. We have so many more struggles than men.

Like if you have a daughter that goes to college and a son that goes to college, you're having two completely different stories about how to walk to your car at night. You're having two completely different stories about what to do if you have a drink at your table and you get up and use the restroom. If you have a daughter, you're gonna say,

take your drink to the restroom with you, somebody can slip a Mickey in it. And so this is just this is propaganda. This is indoctrination straight from MAGA, straight from MAGA churches. Kylie, how's my merch boycott MAGA churches? It's ready to go. Okay, we need to get that live. It's really going to be I've decided this is going to be my big push. Your big pet project. My side hustle is going to be boycotting mega churches. They are indoctrinating people into a death cult.

Yeah. They are. And I've had it, and I'm not going to stand for it. And I intend to shine a light on how hypocritical these people are and how antithetical to the teachings of their Lord and Savior, one Jesus, H Christ, that they are because they have plans within their church that is all about growing and bringing in more money and opening up more branches. Jesus was all about helping the most needy and not accumulating wealth.

If you look at a lot of these churches online, they'll disclose how much money they have in the bank. And I think this one church, it's the biggest grift or con-odder church that I'm privy to, aside from that Joel Olsteen, but it's based in Oklahoma, is one called Life Church. And I think they have some like $600 million liquid in the bank. And if you go to their website, it's all about growing more. It is a ripoff. It is a scam. They are making people worse. They are not helping society. They're MAGA.

And I intend to expose it and burn it all to the fucking ground, including the bad architecture. Yeah, you're just on a roll today. You've burned two things to the ground and we're not even to the guests. That I have. God, what a great day. You know what Roman told me? This is so sad. So I have my life that I live, and then I

have Jennifer that's on the podcast, which is the most pointy part of my personality, for an hour straight. I'm not like this 24-7, 365. So Roman said, mom, all my friends that are girls, they're just, they're kind of like, they follow you and they love it all. But when they, when I invite them over, they're so intimidated by you. And I was like, really? Like, why are they intimidated by me? And he's like, Mom, you're like a boss bitch online, calling people out interviewing people.

And I was like, Roman, I'm so sorry, I don't want my career to impact your social life. And he goes, no, mom, I'm so proud of you. He's so sweet. But anyway, a couple of girls came over. And I'm like in my robe, makeup off, hair in a chip. I'm like, oh my gosh, hey girls, what are y'all doing? Come here and sit down with me. And we spoke.

Then they all go upstairs to hang out in the kid area. And they're like, oh my god, your mom's not scary at all. Oh, but she can be. Don't fuck around. As long as you're not a moderate little darlings. Right. As long as you don't attend Life. Church.

That's where we need the lie detector every day. People like going in and out of public. Are you a moderate or you MAGA? You have to own up. You're under a lie detector. We kind of fun. It's a great little side project. Yeah, in Oklahoma though, more people would just be raw, raw, system-bopped and lying.

They would not be moderates. Yeah, they'd be full-blown MAGA. Pumps and I need to share with everybody that we have written a book. It's called Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. And believe it or not, Pumps and I have not always been so rock solid and we talk about all of our trials, tribulations, most of all our fuck ups. Yes, because fuck ups are relatable and a part of the human experience.

I have gotten so much feedback regarding the book that because of my situation with the religion and addiction and all that, that people relate to that. So I do think there's something to take away that's comforting about it because we've all been in very difficult situations. And listener what we want you to do this is the It Book for Summer Reading. So please get your copy of Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches and take a picture of yourself with the book in really great

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we are bringing in one of her peers. She is a- That's an insult to her. We're bringing in one of her peers. This is Leah Littman, and she is a law professor at the University of Michigan, a former Supreme Court clerk, co-host to the podcast Strict Scrutiny, and author of the recent New York Times bestseller Lawless, How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, French

Theories and Bad Vibes. Please welcome to I've Had It, Pumps legal peer Leah Lippman. Leah, welcome. I am so happy to have another legal powerhouse on this podcast. Leah, I am so sorry they're comparing you to me. No, thank you so much for having me. I love to be in such great company. Yes. I've only done divorce law. Smart people law is not, you know, mine's like rotating heads. Divorce law can be very smart people law. Well, but I mean, it's pretty lineal, you know? I would like to divorce the Supreme Court.

Oh, you did? Will you help me with that? Uh, no. I wouldn't go near that Supreme Court. There's only three that I would consider worthy. Okay, Leah, the Supreme Court has been breathtakingly disappointing. We call Amy Coney Barrett the Handmaid. That's our nickname for her.

And there was some stuff around probably like three or four weeks ago, because I think we're all just dying for some like, surely this isn't happening. Surely cooler heads will prevail. And sure enough, they are always as disappointing every single time. And so with that in mind, what have you had it with? The Supreme Court is kind of what I would say. I think the idea that these guys and Amy are engaged in a serious project of law is just so obviously false at this point that I have pretty much had it with these depictions of the Supreme

Court as an institution that is above politics or not engaged in politics or somehow going to save us all. Leah, here's my question. Okay, so I'm a layman. I'm not an attorney. When I think of Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. Why are you thinking of them? I'll tell you why. Because I live in Oklahoma and I live around some people that are college educated, okay, higher socioeconomic income, and they get radicalized and fall prey to right-wing propaganda.

And I kind of get it in Oklahoma because you have these oil and gas guys who have a tendency to lean into that propaganda because it benefits them. But when I think of Alito, and he and his wife and their flag flying, and I think of Clarence Thomas, and his wife has actually been in a cult before.

She got deprogrammed from a cult before January 6th. I read a whole article on it, right? And then she is texting into the Death Star trying to overturn the election. And as somebody who doesn't have a law degree, I always thought, you know, these people are smart. I thought I'm like Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And you know, these people are just, you know, kind of can geek out and read all this shit that would bore me to tears.

And then I realize, I guess Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito are bored. So they traffic in right-wing entertainment because it's not news, it's entertainment. So my question for you, and then I want Pumps to answer it too, is how is that as an attorney to see the highest ascension I would imagine is Supreme Court justice in the legal world in the United States of America? What is that like seeing these fucking nuts? I mean total kooks, complete psychos at the top of the Supreme Court? I think a nice word for it would be demoralizing. But I think we have been steadily introduced to the media diet

that the Republican justices consume, and more generally, the ecosystem in which they inhabit. Because at oral arguments from the last term, you had Samuel Alito throwing out, well, what if schools are teaching the 1619 project and CRT? What if schools are telling kids they should be trans and LGBT? And it's clear, again, what media they are assuming. And the same oil and gas interests that you identify as subjecting people to the entertainment in Oklahoma, I think honestly, they are behind a lot of what the Republican appointees on the court are exposed to as well.

You know, big corporate interests recognize the importance of controlling the Supreme Court, and they have helped to fund this alternative universe in which the justices receive affirmation and validation for buying into these crazy unhinged fringe theories and they get invited to these fancy conferences and vacations and private jet trips when they traffic in that same garbage. Talk about Clarence Thomas, Pumps and I have talked about this a lot, and his benefactor, what's his name? Harlan Crow. Harlan Crow. And this guy collects Nazi dishes, right? And then, and like,

he's a big fan of like original Nazi shit. And then the dynamics of that for Clarence Thomas to be a black man is just really crazy. I've always thought that Clarence Thomas serves for rich, white country club Republicans as cover for them to feel a little bit better about how racist they are. I mean it is astonishing the volume of gifts and largesse that Justice Thomas himself has received. I mean Harlan Crow purchased Justice Thomas's mother's home while she was still living it and revitalized it. He has funded the bio pic of Justice Thomas in which Justice Thomas stares into the camera and announces that his ideal vacation is an RV trip because he's from

regular stock and loves regular people while vacationing with Harlan Crow on these private jets and at these insane locations where Harlan Crow has constructed a life-size replica of Hagrid's hut from Harry Potter. So it is astonishing, again, like the amount of money they have pumped into and poured into the Supreme Court in order to coddle the conservatives and Republican justices for going along with their right-wing agenda.

Let me ask you this. In my mind, it's easier for me to understand how radicalized Alito is because of he's so super religious and they kind of go hand in hand. Was Clarence Thomas raised super religious? Now I know his wife was in a cult, I get that part, but did he have some kind of underlying cause that let him be so susceptible or is it strictly corruption? So I, you know, in order to understand Clarence Thomas, I think the best insight is really Joel Anderson's season of slow burn becoming Justice Thomas in which he talks about Clarence

Thomas being raised by his grandfather, you know, in an era of segregation and, you know, the different ideas and people he was exposed to his time at Yale and how he was made to feel inadequate. And he attributed that to the fact that Yale had affirmative action rather than to people being dicks. And, you know, so I can't pretend to know exactly what radicalized Clarence Thomas, but it is a wild ride looking at that guy's writings. Yeah, he's a nut. Don't y'all think that when you have Scott Besson, the Secretary of Treasury, he's gay

and he's joining all the homophobes in the MAGA movement. Elon Musk, fucked around and now he's finding out he's an immigrant and he joins all the anti-immigrant racists and now Trump's talking about deporting him. Clarence Thomas, black, he joins all the races. There has to be, from a psychological component, some sort of self-loathing and this desperate desire to get approval from the patriarchy. There is just this desperate desire to get that.

And I think some of the female Supreme Court justices seek this because when you look at Amy Coney Barrett, she's trying to get cut her own way a little bit, but she herself lives in a lot of internalized misogyny and has completely forgotten the fight of suffragettes and all of the people like Ruth Bader Ginsburg, but fought for her very right to sit in that fucking chair while she takes away other people's rights. So I feel like American culture, because we are so diverse, creates a lot of self-loathing within majority groups, and then they go inside the Death Star to seek you know what's going to happen to poor Scott Besson?

You know, Trump's going to drop dead in the next five to 10 years. He's no spring chicken. The dementia is through the roof. And the minute they get him out of the way, they're going to turn the knives on Scott. They're not going to have some gay man in charge of the Treasury. You know, that's just not going to happen. And so it's just interesting to me, this component, when you live in a very diverse country like we do, and you see marginalized people that have been exceptional

to ascend to where they are, it's exceptional that Clarence Thomas, a black man, ascended to be a Supreme Court Justice, Scott Besson, out of the closet gay man, toended to be a Supreme Court Justice, Scott Besant, out of the closet gay man, to ascend to be Secretary of the Treasury. But they join the people who wish to annihilate their group in which they belong. You know, this is just a fascinating dynamic. And one question that I am often asked about my book, because the very first chapter is about how the rise of originalism and the jurisprudence of the Republican justices is just rooted in a backlash to feminism, right?

And hostility to women being people with full rights who are entitled to participate equally in the political, economic and social life of the country. And the question is, OK, why are, you know, often white women going along with this? And my best answer is patriarchy and misogyny are a hell of a drug. question is, OK, why are often white women going along with this? And my best answer is patriarchy and misogyny are a hell of a drug. We are still in a society in which getting gold stars, getting power, getting approval too often means cozying up to men and getting the approval of men. And it's really hard to exist in that world while recognizing its problems and recognizing

the ways in which, yes, like you were subjected to mistreatment. That doesn't mean you don't deserve the many opportunities you received. But I think it just comes from a desire to pretend the world is something other than it is to imagine that like you are this single meritocratic genius that was selected because you are the best. Nothing to do with identity. When the reality is like the Republican Party fucking loves to traffic in identity politics. They selected Clarence Thomas to replace the first black justice on the Supreme Court, Thurgood Marshall, the grandfather of the civil rights movement

who litigated Brown versus Board of Education and got the decision in validating segregated public schools. They got Amy Barrett to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Thurgood Marshall of the feminist movement, who helped create the body of law that treats sex discrimination as presumptively illegal. So they fucking love to do this.

And it is such a shallow and hollow vision of what people talk about when they talk about diversity, equity and inclusion. It is not a kind of tokenism. It is a meaningful conception of what it takes to actually have a pluralistic, multiracial society and democracy. And they just can't understand that.

I love what you said. I do too. Your answer was so good. It's plain language, a great communicator. OK, another thing we talk about here, on here a lot, is what a pussy. Just an abject pussy, just an abject pussy, Justice Roberts says, like not making conflict

of interest, allowing Alito and Thomas to weigh in on these January six cases. I'm like, you have no fucking balls. So what's his legacy going to be? I mean, I think his legacy, we are going to look back at him as such a hollow, superficial institutionalist who oversaw a court that was willing to give in to the rise of authoritarianism and autocracy. I mean, I think people want to imagine that the Chief Justice cares about,

you know, the institutional integrity of the Supreme Court and our democracy. But the reality is, he's still a Republican who is cool with a lot of what the Republicans do. He wants to maintain some superficial appearance of a Supreme Court that isn't partisan, but that has never meant him doing what is substantively necessary to shore up the power and substantive legitimacy of democratic institutions, whether that is the Supreme Court, whether that is Congress, whether that is state legislatures, you name it. He's authored opinions that have paved the way

for unlimited money in politics. He authored the opinion that dismantled a key part of the Voting Rights Act. He authored the opinion that dismantled a key part of the Voting Rights Act. He authored the opinion that said federal courts can't do jack shit about partisan gerrymandering, where legislators pick their voters rather than voters picking legislators. So I just think he is basically on board

with a lot of the worst parts of the Republican Party's agenda and the few instances in which he has given like a tepid shrug or I don't know about that to a few things are just way overemphasized. You know what I think? I've often thought that within the Trump support, you have the cult that is like they're going to wear the MAGA merch, they're going to buy the Trump cologne, they're going to wear the shoes, they're going to have trucks in their,, they're going to buy the Trump cologne, they're going to wear the shoes, they're going to have flags in their trucks, Vanilla ISIS, Y'all Kaida, the whole nine, right? Loud and proud. And then you have country club Republicans

that are embarrassed, that know better, that have agency over the moral duplicity of how parasitic the Republican Party is specifically to the poor. The Republican Party and MAGUR are both specifically parasitic to the poor. It's punitive to the poor. And it's amazing to me that you have people in the Supreme Court, and when we look at the Roberts Court, we will look directly at Citizens United. The legal experts can weigh in on this. But in my opinion, Citizens United

opened up the door for fascism. Fifty years from now when this is written, Citizens United under the Roberts Court will be the first step that sped this up in such a cataclysmic way that I genuinely am very fearful, and I don't mean this to be hyperbolic. I'm genuinely very fearful about the midterms and them taking place. No. So, I love the point about the country club Republicans being uncomfortable with some of the more transparently and explicitly maniacal aspects of what the Republican party is doing, because I actually think if you look at the cases where the Chief Justice has ruled against the Trump administration, the through line is basically

lie better, right? Like do a better job of concealing your animus. When he told the Trump administration during the first Trump term, you can't rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. What he said was, look, in your memo doing this, you kind of didn't go through the motions and talk about some of the things you should have. When he rejected their efforts to add a citizenship question to the census, he said, look, the reason you came up with, everybody knows that's a lie, try to come up with something more plausible. So I completely agree that that is an important framework for understanding the relationship between the current Supreme Court and the Republican

Party and Donald Trump. I am with you on Citizens United. I mean, if you think about lines in Supreme Court opinions that have aged the worst, I think the line in Citizens United about how unlimited corporate expenditures do not give rise to corruption or even the appearance of corruption. I mean, come the fuck on, guys, right? Like we all saw what happened in the 2024 presidential election. Right. Yeah. I mean, just acting like it's not happening, particularly when you've got Clarence Thomas taking many hand

over fist. I mean, like, please, Clarence Thomas, tell me about ethics. Yeah, no, I know. And I do think back to this point, I do think that all of these Republicans agree with the cult and agree with the base. I think the problem they've had with Donald Trump is he's really white trash around it, about it. They want him to be a little bit more civilized about it. They want him to be a little bit more polite about the racism and the grifting. They want to be a little less trashy,

you know, turn off your online flea market. But they're 100% on board with everything in Project 2025 because the base of the Supreme Court are Christian nationalists. These are religious, fanatic nuts that actively, I think, do not believe in a secular government. Well, I mean, if you look at the rulings from this past Supreme Court term, you know, whose interests did they cater to? Rich corporate interests. Right. You know, the Supreme Court made it easier for fuel producers to sue and for tobacco

companies to pick where they file their cases. Also the right-wing reactionary Christian theocratic elements of the Republican Party, allowing parents with religious objections to LGBT equality, the right to veto effectively what is taught in public schools and the strongman who unites them all. Let me ask you about that. So the ruling about like, okay, in Oklahoma, we have a total Christian nationalist whack job. It's just, you've probably read all about, they're nuts. Anyway, so this new ruling that if I have a child and then they start teaching about something,

you know, LGBTQ plus related that I can say, I don't want my child in this and I can pull them out. Can I also, because I'm an atheist, can I also say, if you put the 10 commandments in the Trump Bible in the classroom, I want to pull my child out? That would require the Supreme Court to adopt and adhere to a consistent legal rule when they have no interest in doing that.

And in fact, Justice Alito wrote the opinion in the Mahmoud versus Taylor case, the opt out of LGBT instruction case, in a way that I basically think is perfectly tailored to allow the court to only rule for the Christian, conservative, religious claims, not anyone else, because what he said is, well, the reason why this instruction is problematic is it's normative. So he has the opportunity to say, well, other kinds of instruction, other displays, not normative. Also, the only thing that is problematic

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I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Leah, Had It or Hit It events starting after 6pm. Had it. I am early to bed, early to rise. I need my fucking beauty sleep. We are having to fight the patriarchy day in, day out. I don't have fucking time for an 8 p.m. dinner. Sorry.

And I don't digest well that late. Yes. I can't sleep if I eat late. Like in Europe, if I eat late, I don't sleep as great. So I need to eat about 4.30, and then roll into bed about eight. Just perfect. I think we've got to normalize matinees. We just went through the NBA playoffs.

Our team, Oklahoma City Thunder, won. Pumps and I were just, we were like strung out crackheads. These games started at 7.30, 8 p.m. And we felt like we had to go. So we were at all these home games. Then when they weren't home games, the games were starting at 8. We're not getting to bed until 11, 30, or 12. We were burning the midnight oil and we looked like total crackheads that couldn't put together sentences on this podcast. But by God, it all paid off.

That's right. Because we are champs. Okay, Had it or hit it Taylor Swift opinions? So hit it if it's a cool opinion. Right. Had it if it's some dudes sounding off on Taylor Swift. I have had it with fucking men who aren't real fans giving me their takes about Taylor Swift's albums and her artistic choices. I'm not gonna name names. I'm just gonna note that on one particular podcast one particular male host suggested Taylor Swift should have a child because that would open up an entire new window of creativity for her as if Taylor Swift has never had a

fucking new idea without having a child. What a prick. Was that Charlie Kirk? No, it wasn't. I mean, that is just really unbelievable. And you know what I've had it with, ladies? I've had it with men reducing women to breeding. So if you're Pumps' age, I'm a lot younger than she is. That's not true. That's four years. If you're Pumps' age, you get sent out to the pasture like, oh, you're a dried up old hack. And then if you're a dried up old hack. And then if you're a younger lady-

Cat tip Jay, it's the post-menopausal female. Right, the childless cat lady. Childless cat ladies, if you're Taylor Swift and you haven't had children, then they demean you for that. Meanwhile, she's made more money than all those fuckers put together and combined off of her own talent. So I'm so tired of the patriarchy categorizing us based on where we are with breeding. It's just so weird. I don't think about them and their masturbation schedules.

And another thing I've had it with this group, these Republican men, I've never seen so many people that alleged to be straight that talk about gay sex this much. I've never seen anything like it. Yeah. It's a little creepy. I'm not going to lie. Also, they are obsessed with porn. Yes. Oh, so obsessed with porn. Because I think they probably watch it all the time. Well, there's no question. Ted Cruz on 9-11. On 9-11, you guys, this is real. He liked, he favorited a really raunchy porn video on Twitter on 9-11, how unpatriotic for lion Ted Cruz. And then you know what he did, the big Christian Ted Cruz, he blamed the whole thing on an

intern. Of course he did. Of course. Of course. I knew that was coming. Okay. Had it or hit it, alligator Alcatraz. Oh, I had it does not begin to convey the depths of my outrage over this. First of all, calling it alligator Alcatraz. Alcatraz was a prison, right, with a building where people

went after criminal convictions. Alligator Alcatraz is this constructed place where people are going to be subjected to over 100 degree conditions, humidity off the charts, in which the government officials are celebrating the fact that they might be targeted and bitten by alligators. I mean, it is so appalling. The phrase alligator Alcatraz, I just think, does not convey the depths of the depravity of what they are doing.

I completely agree. But then I look at, OK, cruel and unusual punishment. This is a slam dunk for that. But then look who the Supreme Court is. I mean, I have a lot more faith in the lower courts than I do the higher court. Oh, yeah. The lower courts are still engaged in something

we could recognize as law. Not so with the Supreme Court. Oh, that's bad. Oh, my god, that terrifies me. OK. Had it or hit it, Zoran Memdani. Oh, hit it. Oh, my gosh.

That guy, born communicator, camera ready, knows how to stick to a message. I think about the Republican Party's threats to focus the issue and attention on him. And I'm like, how did that work out for you guys with Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? He's their worst nightmare, Leah and Pumps, because they have propagandized the base to believe that all Muslims are into Sharia law and want to throw gay people off buildings and all women have to wear burkas and all of this, you know, crazy religious fanaticism that Pumps always points out, which is exactly the same thing that the Christian

Nationalists want. But he leaves no one behind. He marches with a trans pride flag at gay pride. He advocates for all affordability in workers and most importantly, he really stands up against anti-Semitism and recognizes that it is an increasing problem and that he has to partner with Jewish people and Jewish people must partner with him to break through the barriers of bigotry. And so he breaks the stereotype of the boogeyman, the Muslim boogeyman that Fox Entertainment and other right-wing propaganda channels have built and fed into this religious base that are so quick to

think they're so elite because they're chosen by Jesus and blah, blah. I mean, you know the deal. So I love this guy. I mean, I'm all chips in. We're furiously trying to get a hold of him to get him on the pod. I mean, I might even have to fly to New York and do it in person. I mean, I'm going to be so starstruck. I just think she is, I mean, she is so in love with the whole idea of him, his political career, all of his attributes. Have you seen his wife? So there's, have you seen that on Instagram? So okay, if you see pictures of like Iran in like the early seventies, it was like the Paris of the Middle East and they had, you know, it was a very liberal culture and you know this beautiful kind of

Persian skin and kind of sexiness about them. Well, Zoran and his wife did like some photo shoots in like subways and stuff and she is like drop dead, gorge. Well, he's gorgeous. Have you seen it, Leah? Yes, I have. I've seen some of the photos you're talking about. He's also just cool as fuck. Like if you've seen him dismount a bicycle. I'm Evan. I know how he does it.

And he raps. And he knows, he understands the digital optics. And I think that like there's this idea right now that Democrats, when you look at Schumer and some of these older Democrats that were kind of the old dinosaur party, and it's like, we need young, hot people representing us that know how to play the social media game. Yeah. Okay, let's move along. Had it or hit it, the P. Diddy verdict? Can I have it and hit it?

Of course. it and hit it. I am thankful he was convicted on some accounts. I am sad he was let go on the more serious trafficking charges, you know, given the testimony of Cassie Ventura among others. I have to share with you guys. So Don Lemon was, he's our really good friend of ours, he does independent media as well. So he was going on vacation and he asked Pumps and I to sub in on his Don Lemon was, he's a really good friend of ours, and he does independent media as well. So he was going on vacation and he asked Pumps and I to sub in on his Don Lemon live show, right? And so I did a couple of days and Pumps did a day where it's like, Jennifer filling in for Don.

So I'd worked with his producers to prepare a whole episode on Alligator Alcatraz. And then when I log in, I log in about 15, 20 minutes earlier, they're like, hey, listen, we're gonna to have to pivot the puff daddy version just coming down the pipe. I knew nothing. Nothing. I didn't follow a news story. I knew baby oil and freak offs. And I'd seen the video where with the domestic abuse in the hallway. Those are, that was my knowledge, Leah. So remember like when you're younger and you're hungover and you should have studied

because you have a lecture the next day, but you don't because you were a bad girl and you go and you're just trying to fake it in class. That was me. Our substituting for darling. Thank God they brought on as guests, like some, like, some really- Katie Fang. Katie Fang and they brought on some lawyers where I could just ask kind of some layup

questions, but I was totally reaching through the whole thing. Okay, Leah, last one. Had it or hit it? The United States of America. Hit it. I still have faith we can be better and get ourselves out of this mess and turn it into something even good or great. I hope you're right.

I was one of those dumb people that had a huge optimistic turn on the court, like they're going to rein in Donald Trump's power because they don't want to lose their own power. Even if it's self-serving, they're going to do the right thing. Now I realize they're not. So I mean, of course I'm in on the United States of America, but as constructed MAGAs America, I'm really out on that. Yeah, that's a fair take, Pumps. Leah, it's so nice to have somebody on here for Pumps

that can match her intellect. Shut up. And her legal prowess. That's an insult. So I cannot thank you enough for coming on. Seriously, thank you for all the work you do and for educating our listeners. We have a very great, curious listener base that is dead set on staying engaged. And we try to entertain them some with petty grievances and also heavy grievances like

the fuckery on the Supreme Court. So thank you so much, Leah Lippman. We hope to see you again soon. Yes. Thank you so much for having me. Bye. I mean, how does it feel to have somebody on the podcast as smart as you? Well, first of all, A, she's way, way smarter than me. That's a false equivalency. But, God, I liked her.

I did too. I like her a lot. She would be a great professor. Like I had professors in law school that were so boring, like watching paint. It's dry. It would have been an upgrade. And she is a great communicator. She's cool. She's cool. She says the F-bomb, which goes right to my soft spot.

It's our love language. And yeah, I mean, she would make me want to get up and go to law school. Yeah. And I just thought she had, what was her point about, it was about a lot of this being a backlash to feminism. Yes. That she articulated so well. I just, I think, I don't know.

I really feel like on the right, they are platforming people, stupid people. And because it doesn't require, in the age of smartphones where you don't have to think and the phone thinks for you, and now the age of artificial intelligence, they platform stupid people and the public is just primed to just be intellectually lazy with them. And I like having more interesting guests

that are more thought-provoking because she's really, really sharp. And I wanna go and follow up and Google some of the things that she was talking about. She makes me want to educate myself more. Yeah, I want to get her book. And also I just, I have a news flash that honest to God, I really didn't think of until all of this started happening

in our world. I just think there are a lot of people that are below average intelligence in the United States of America. News flash, breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news. Pumps? Yeah, I just, I didn't realize there were so many...

Breaking news. America is full of dipshits. Yeah, I just, I mean, they're on, I guess they're just louder than they ever have been before. I think they're intellectually lazy. I think that they've lived in communities that, you know, shun curiosity. This is the worldview. You can't think beyond this. And they just accept it at a very young age that they're just going to be dipshits. Yeah. I mean, brain is an organ that must be exercised. Yeah, but some people's brain isn't as good as other people's.

I would agree. So, I mean, I think some of these people, like, it's not a lack of intellectual curiosity. They're just not very smart. Breaking news. All right. Breaking news also to get our book, Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. Look at that smile. Oh my gosh, so toothpaste. It's being a white. I wonder if Kylie could put like a, Kylie, can you edit it and do like a ding with like a sparkle right there?

Okay, here we go. No, put the sparkle on her teeth. She's doing that smile. Oh yeah, do both. Okay, wait, I'm gonna do a clean take for you. Please buy our book, Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. And then you can put like glitter and then like a little sparkle here.

Yeah, I want the sparkle on the teeth. Big smile. All right guys. Do you think that will go viral? No. Probably not. All right, listen, pumps tell them. go viral? No. Probably not. All right. Listen, pumps, tell them.

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