I've Had It - The Pickleball Cult

Episode Date: December 13, 2022

Jennifer is deep in the Pickleball Cult and Pumps is worried that Jennifer's next step is drinking the Kool-Aid. Additionally, the ladies have had it with gated community and online security.  Subscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IveHadItPodcast Follow Us: I've Had It Podcast: @Ivehaditpodcast Jennifer Welch: @mizzwelch Angie "Pumps" Sullivan: @pumpspumpspump Special Guest: clubleftisttennis.substack.com clubleftisttennis.bigcartel.com

How many of the full do you drink per day? That full, stainless cup. It's 40 ounces. I would say probably minimum of six. Six, six times 40, what's that? Let me try it. What's that? It's heavy.

It's heavy. It's heavy. Oh my god, you just got all the food on your eyeshirt. Oh. 200 ounces of that per day? Probably. I just couldn't bear to put my mouth on that. No, I thought it was a good look for you.

I mean, we've shared multiple germs, but that lipstick contaminated straw. Pops. Jennifer. What have you had it with this week? We've shared multiple germs, but that lipstick contaminators straw. Pops Jennifer. What have you had it with this week? I've had it with gated communities. That is a fucking great one. Unbelievable. I can't. But it is.

I can't believe that we have not discussed this horrible 20 years of friendship. Gated communities are the absolute worst. The worst. Because what, here's my deal, every time I'm going into my neighborhood, waiting for the gate to open, I think. Why are we doing this? We're paying for our own reds,

throw our homeowners dues. And anybody that's gonna rob you, is just gonna wait till the person in front of you goes. I mean, it's not like a cracker, Jack, fail safe system. All you have to do is go in after somebody. If there was a committee meeting and you could vote to do a vote of the gate, you would assume I would go to the Homeowners Association, which would never happen. No, I could do much of the thing. Ever. Something would be wrong with me like take me to the emergency room if you walk in and I'm going into a Homeowners Association meeting. So I, for my job, I have to go to a lot of gated communities where I'm designing a home.

Right. Most of the time, the security guards want to play hero. Well, first of all, they're 150. My thal thing would be, it's a power trip for the security guard. 100% it's the mall cop syndrome. Right. Right. So let me tell you what I've had it with. Okay, what if you had it with? So you're on a website and you're getting close to like making a purchase and they're like prove to us that you're not a robot.

Hate. Identify the images that have a street sign in it. I flunk those tests. I flunk them all the a street sign in it. I flunk those tests. I flunk them all the time. Non-stop, identify the crosswalks. Right. Identify a picture with lights in it.

Yes. Traffic lights. Traffic lights. So then you're like, is the pole a part of the traffic light? Right. We've got to figure out who invented that thing. And I want that motherfucker on I've had it podcast. We need to know who invented that.

And who are they trying to keep out like robots? Like if a robot has a credit card that works, why do they give a shit? I mean, seriously, like who are they protecting themselves from? It's unbelievable. I don't understand. And it's like this like crazy layer of security. Everybody flunks the test.

Do you guys flunk the test, Janinelli? I don't know if I've ever flunked the test. I've flunked it. My biggest thing is with you is the poll. Is the poll part of the track? The traffic light. Like if you can see the back of the stop sign, does that count? Right. Right. If there's just, there's no oversight. Well, I'll tell you what, I just think, what are they saving us from? Same with the gated community. Like, what are you protecting me from in my gated community? F***ing nothing. What are you protecting me from on a website? Nothing. Robots. Robots. Killer robots. Killer robots. Which, if they have money, they can buy whatever they want. If you're a robot and you have an unlimited

credit card, I've had it podcast merch, take it all. You can have all of it. No robot questions, nothing. Welcome to I've had it podcast. I'm Jennifer. Hi, I'm Angie. We call her pumps. Jen and Nelia here, Richard's here. I'm so excited about this episode. I have a feeling you're going to be mad at me after that. Probably. Okay. And it doesn't take much. Right. But I am so excited because we are going to discuss pickleball. I personally have not had it with pickleball. You're obsessed. We have some guests that are coming on later that have had it with pickleball. You're obsessed. We have some guests that are coming on later that have had it with pickleball. They've written a manifesto. But before we bring them on, I want to tell you in

the audience. So last year I started playing tennis. I've never played rocket sports. I had zero hand-eye coordination. Played tennis, took lessons religiously, and then some friends and I started playing pickleball. I was like, well, this is even easier and more people can play it. So I played both tennis and pickleball. Pickleball, I play every single day, sometimes twice a day. I mean, we're serious about it. Oh, I know. I'm aware of your serious mistakes with pickleball. I take lessons. I have a coach, much to my surprise. All these articles in the news start popping up pickle balls taking over America. It's a sensation blah blah blah. Well then I

see this rather alarming story. The New York Post. The New York Post covers the story that there's this playground in the West Village, which is neighborhood Manhattan. And the kids would play on this playground. Well, apparently the pickleballers have come and they're taping off the lines and putting up nets on the playground. And I can't get behind that. These kids are all playing on the playground in West Village. This is what the article says.

The sun was shining, kids were laughing, riding scooters and kicking soccer balls about. Pickleball players lined up beside two designated courts on the concrete area of the popular park. Then suddenly a commotion interrupted the picture perfect early autumn. The father of one of the children playing started screaming at the pickleball players and threatening to call the police, leave, he yelled repeatedly. So these parents are furious that these pickleball players are out there on the playground,

taking over some of the playground. The kids are kind of huddled over on part of the playground, because you know, space is not a big thing in Manhattan, not mostly. Right. So then, apparently, the parents are encouraging the kids, just go ahead and kick your soccer ball. So the kids are kicking their soccer balls right through the pickle balls. That's just pandemonium. It's chaos in the West Village at the pickleball course. And so I personally am I'm for the pickleball players. Yeah, I'm not. Let me tell you why. What have those kids ever done with their lives? Their kids. Exactly.

Kids are playground people. That's who they build playgrounds for. Adults can rent space. They can, no. The kids win on that every time. No, I'm for the pickleball players. No, okay, okay, okay. I love the pickleball players.

Let's say you and I were taking our regrats to play outside and we knew that that two hours of playing outside was going to be the difference in an early bedtime, no tears at bath time, all those things, like run, get the energy out of them and we march up there and there's adults playing on the playground, even though it's pickleball and you love it, you'd be furious. I'll tell you exactly what I do. Okay. I'd call a babysitter and say, come get my kids.

I'm at this park, bringing my pickleball bag, and I would send the kids to Chuckie cheese like a fucking normal person. No, you're wrong. I would just call it pickleball court. That makes no sense. I think that there's some pavement there. Here's my point.

What you think is because you're in a cult, you're in a pickle but it's probably true. If you laid out, there is no story that ends with adults playing on a playground, and kids playing on a playground that the adults should win. There, it's just, it can't happen. It's a playground.

I think we're empowering kids too much. To play on a playground? Yeah. You've crossed over to the cult dark side. I mean, you're on the dark side of this people. I'm just saying. I mean, it's changed your personality a little bit. You can send them over there.

So all the parks in Manhattan are all for kids. First and foremost, yes. When did this happen? The kids get the perks they have not done anything with their lives, these people do. Their kids! Why, how could they do anything with their lives? That's why we're just bored. They've done the bare minimum.

Adults are out working paying for all this shit for the kids. The kids need to share these open spaces. In New York City, those basketball courts, especially in West Village, there are adults. There are no kids there. It's also like not a great playground. Jenna and I were talking about that. But in a situation where kids are trying to play soccer and adults are trying to play pickleball,

which is what this article is, there is no scenario in which the kid should have to stand down for the adults. I gotta say I'm with you on this one pumps because New York City, these kids are so confined. They don't even have playgrounds at schools. They have parking lots to play in with some jungle gyms over there.

Right. Adults could do lots of things. They could go to the movies, they could go to the bars, they could go run on West Sideway on the path. So I gotta say I think it belongs to the kids. Right. I just think your perspective is from the pickleball, like you're a pickleball purist cultist.

Like it's the best thing in the world. It's the best thing in the world for me. That's right, right for you. What I say to the kids is when you get big enough, then you can have your own, and you pay bills, and you pay for your kid stuff, then you can have your own place too. Now, we don't have these problems in Oklahoma City

because we don't have a space. Right, we have a space. So there's not cross-contamination. Right. Pickleball courts are not contaminated with children. Right. Wait, children can't play pickleball? I'll tell you, some do.

And sometimes when I'm at the place where I play pickleball, some kids will be in the court next to me. And they hit balls into our court nonstop. And the rule is, when a ball goes in your court, you immediately stop play and you have to say ball because somebody could step on it, roll an ankle, right? And so, and also these kids like to do a lot of Tom Foulery, we're in the middle of a grudge match championship, right? Right?

I mean, it's, it's a big deal. It's a big deal. It's a big deal. Every day Jennifer plays in the championship. A typical, every day, every day, I won two championships today. Before 30, oh my gosh. We are in the presence of greatness. Right. They're obnoxious. They're loud. There's a lot of Tom Foulery. And it just happens. Oh, no, I'm 100% on team Jennifer for that. Okay. If you're next to a pickleball person and you're dicking off and you put their ball, then you should be expelled. And if you're young, you're just stupid. Go somewhere else.

Agreed. However, in a place where there's one opportunity to play, I think the kids have to win. I know that. I didn't realize you were so pro kids. I don't even like kids, but I'm just saying, you just can't convince me ever that an adult should have priority in a plate area. A dad who was also in the park on Friday, put it more bluntly, meaning the pickleball players.

They're the lanternflies of the sports world. That's a great one. So then I guess the parents called the police are the parks department. So they come and they tell the pickleball players, get your shit and get your net and get out. They're like, no, we're not going to go. We're not going. Oh no, we won't go.

So she's like, look, if you don't leave, I'm going to send somebody back here and they're going to cuff, cuff you. So it's gotten really bad. Pickleball players. So they've taken over playgrounds, right? Which I support. Which for the record I'm against support. But here's where I disagree with the pickleball players.

They're taking over tennis courts. And this I oppose. The kids fuck the kids. No, taken over the tennis courts, I oppose this. Our guests that are coming on are Matt, they're in New York and they're matter than a hornet about the pickleballers taking over the tennis courts. I mean, they are mad. They've written a manifesto. I love it. They have a club. They think that pickleball is like the demise of society. 100%. It's predicting the failure of the world.

They have had it with pickleball. I mean, had it on the same level of the same shit that we rail about times a billion. That's how mad these guys are. We even we have a written a manifesto about anything. No, but we're not above it. Oh heavens no, we're not above it, but we just don't have the discipline.

Right, no. And I read their manifesto. It's excellent. Lots of big words. They're sharp as a tax. Sharp as tax. Yes. Yeah, they seem very, very, very smart.

I don't know that we could write a manifesto. I love it so much when somebody's so fucking mad about something and they've just got to be in their bonnet, their matter, their hornets. I mean, fucking scorched the earth about pickleball, even though I am a lover of pickleball. Colt member, you're pickleball over children. Chief collate maker. Fuck the kids. Bring the pickleballers. Colt member. You're Pickleball over children. Chief, collate maker. Fuck the kids. Bring the Pickleballers.

I'm there when genuinely secured these guests. Oh, you are so excited. I mean, you could get an ateless celebrity in here, and I wouldn't be as excited as to interviewing these people. This is Mike and Charlie from Brooklyn, New York, and their organization is called Club leftist tennis. I love it. Hello Hi, how's it going? Great. How are you guys?

Nice to meet you. I have to tell you guys when you committed to be our guest, I am like inject this yet to be our guest. I am like inject this. Yeah. I'm excited. Inject that shit into my veins. The manifesto is fan. I love the manifesto. It is great. But I want, okay, I want our audience. No, tell us what a leftist tennis player is.

We're both tennis players, lifelong tennis players. We are both on the left politically. And we figured that, you know, it's been too long of a time that tennis has been slandered as, you know, a country club sport. And we're reclaiming it as the people sport. Okay. So, so I have to let you know, I am a huge tennis fan. But I also play pickleball. She's in a pickleball cult. I'm a part of the problem. She's a cult. I am playing both sides.

I am a part of the problem. And so, and I will admit it. But I want to know first of all, what is your tennis ranking? Oh, not too high, but our leftist ranking is way. No, we're egalitarian, so we don't actually believe in tennis rankings. I love that. Who's your favorite tennis player? My favorite growing up is always among fleas, because I loved that he would just implode

and then bring back like the most incredible athleticism. So I would go with him. You know, I grew up as an Agacy fan. I caught like the tail end of the Agacy. One of the most vivid matches to me was when Federer beat him in the finals. So let me ask you this, which tenor which tennis player do you hate the most? And why do you think Novak Jokovic is such a dick? We have ongoing beef with two tennis players right now, apparently. Oh, good.

You are, man. The first is Ali O'Pelka. Okay. Are you aware of them? Seven-foot-tall American, no exactly who he is. Yeah. Allegedly was dating Venus for a while. I didn't know that.

There were like lots of rumors swirling, and if you go on their social media, they would be like at each other's events for a long time And then it seems like that's dissipated, but that that was the gossip that we were told. Okay, and then who else? Well, Riley O'Pulca, I don't know if you've ever seen him on Twitter. He's a big anti-anti-vacs type guy and then our number two that we He's a big anti anti-vax type guy And then our number two that we started to hate is definitely those stitipos Who came out today

Against feminism ruining the world Yeah, he he should really stay in his lane, which is like he makes good like himbo travel vlogs. Well, I love having yogurt in Turkey. And it's like, yeah, stay in that lane. You don't got to talk about feminism or anything else. Mind your business. I mean, no, that joke of itch has to get up in your crawl with all the anti-vax stuff and him saying get prey over a glass of water and remove bacteria from it. I feel like sometimes he's so crazy that we can't help but laugh like the thing where he just like

touched bread and then decided off of like touching a piece of bread that he needed to become gluten-free. Blue my mind. The point where I'm like I don't even know that I can hate this. I'm just like you are on a different level. We've got to get on to what you've had it with. Because that's the name of this podcast is I've had it. So I want to hear what you've had it with. Let's go. Well, it's pickleball. As like a devoted tennis player, what made you pick up pickleball in the first place?

So I had long COVID and it drug on for like seven months. I'm fit, I'm tall, I'm thin, I work out all the time, and I just had this debilitating like long COVID. That's her dating profile. We just did an episode on Horoscopes because I've had it with those. And it said that as a Leo, I was arrogant and I just proved that.

Yeah, I just totally proved that. But anyway, so, but I had this debilitating brain fog and my doctor suggested trying, you know, playing chess or tennis or something. So I started playing. That shit is hard. The tennis is so hard. So at the time I was 47 and I'm trying to learn,

you have to do 75 things to hit a forehand and I was consumed with it, watch all the time and I'm a a nut so I'm taking like seven tennis lessons a day, right? So then some girlfriends and I were like, let's go play pickleball. So we go play pickleball It's a million times easier. There's a great place by my house. It's all designated pickleball courts no cross contamination with tennis and It's called chicken and pickle. It's only pickleball. Yeah, we've heard about them. Yeah. I'm sure you want to take them down, but I googled the owner and the owner is a big

Democrat, so that made me feel good about all the money that I spend there. Right. I read an article before y'all came on to Pumps that was in the New York post about apparently in the West Village. There's this park where these kids are out there trying to play and the pickable players have put down their courts. And I'm the skunk at the Garden Party. I said fuck the kids. I think that they have done anything with their lives. I think the pickable players, their adults, their pain for this shit, they deserve to go play

pickable. It wasn't a popular opinion, okay. I was accused of being in a cult. A lot of terrible things went down before you all came on board, but I still maintain. Fuck those kids. Well, the city, the city actually, I think today or yesterday, just put up big signs banning pickleball on those premises. Unfortunately, the city sided with the kids. The kids, yeah. There's just no argument you can make where a play area is for sided with the kids. The kids, yeah. There's just no argument you can make

where a play area is for adults and not kids. I mean, you just can't sell that shit, period. There was a crazy article. I don't know if you'd go this far, but there was a crazy article. I don't know if it's when you saw where a lady was threatening to call child protective services on parents, whose kids were playing on that playground

for not respecting the pickleball space. So, she might be more hardcore than you. I want to dive into the rage. Well, to be completely honest, we first found out about pickleball like through the media and at first our hatred of it was like more of a joke. It was like this thing that I'm talking about and it's really annoying and I'm tired of hearing about it. Right.

And the more and more we heard about it the more insidious it became All of a sudden it's like wait, why is every single media publication publishing like five articles about pickleball that are just like How to play the game of pickleball. It's not even like covering the game. Nothing interesting going on in the sport I have you guys ever played pickleball. I mean, I know that that would be we We've stayed strong. We've filled the line. We have a couple friends who have invited us. And, you know, I just feel like we would be letting down the movement, you know, as leaders of this nation-wide campaign, we really got to hold the line. You've really got Dan Manifesto and you cannot turn right. You can't get back. We're not gonna name names on this podcast but they know who they are and they're on notice. Pickle balls loud. There's a lot a lot of

smack talk going on which I love to do and there's a lot of. She smacks talk during pickleball. I'm not lying. I'm not sure. 100% I do. I'm getting the sense she's smack talks during a lot of parts of life. Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. But I think you guys want to completely dismantle and eradicate pickleball. A ball is shit off the planet is what it sounds like from this manifesto. I mean, I don't think we're going to have to. I personally, we've talked about this a lot. We're pretty convinced that this is a fad. It's gonna go the way of Rackable eventually. Not gonna be hearing about Pickleball too much

in five to ten years. I'm gonna say, I do think this is gonna have a little bit more longevity. Just because of the accessibility aspect of it? My goal at the end of each day is just to be alone. And so the last thing I wanna do is go to dinner

with a bunch of women and hear a bunch of yaks. Pickle balls perfect. You show up, you can talk for about two minutes before, then you play, smack talk fun, then okay, bye, I gotta run, and that's it. So you've spent time with people, but you don't have to hear about the boring, mundane bullshit

that's going on in their lives. Are the courts that you all play on in New York? Are they cross contaminated generally? No, we play on public courts always here. There's some really nice ones. There's some ones that are cracking out so nice. And so far, the pickleball rise in New York has been limited either to private clubs or children's playgrounds. They're picking their enemies wisely.

Okay. I want to play a game with you guys, a game of would you rather? Okay. Okay. Would you rather go on a hunting trip to South Africa with Don Jr. You have to ride in a plane with Don Jr. and Eric. You have to share a hotel room with Don Jr. and Eric. And you have to kill two animals in Africa. This is horrible. No one would ever pick that. With Don Jr. and Eric for five days, or you have to play pickleball 10 hours a day for five days in the most high profile public pickleball

what's in Manhattan? What do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, I'm going with Don Jr. Cause they have the best cook. They have the best cook in here. They've got the best cook in here. And you know that's gonna be a great time. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, And then we'll just get some ear plugs for the rest. Right, Mike, what about you?

Are you playing pickleball? Are you going to? Yeah, we're going on the hunting trip. I'm telling you, that's how much these guys hate to play. We gotta stay on message, we come this far. Right. I've got another one.

You have to go campaign with Ted Cruz. At his fundraisers, at his political speeches, you have to go fucking crazy with Ted for one week, 24-7 with Ted one week, or play pickleball for two days. These options sound so equally balanced. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, You'd go with Don Jr. because you're wrong. Don Jr. has a good drags. You probably do a lot of blow You can tell by looking at Ted. He's not doing cocaine. I mean, that's not No, no, no, no fun. No fun. He hates it. Well, what is Ted stand on the tennis pickleball issue? Because that's like the only political thing I vote on What is your intention? You know, like I read an article in vanity fair like a year ago that Obama was

playing pickleball. Larry David was playing pickleball. Both of whom I love passionately. And let cool people are playing pickleball. Are they on your list? I think they're on watch. We're looking into who they're getting paid off by. You know, we're seeing the you're following the money. We're following the money big time. I like it. Yeah. It's kind of like that thing. Like when you see celebrities endorsing something this far,

like there's no way they're doing it for free. What? So we know that there's like some money involved. We know there's a ton of people who are investing in like majorly pickable and such. Who do you think? Well, I like watching, I liked watching when Tom Brady and LeBron both bought their majorly pickable teams. They're the main sport they played.

They started to do horribly in. So we're thinking there could be a little bit of a pickable curse going on. Wait, now I watch out for celebrities. LeBron bought one. I think Steph Curry bought one. Tom Brady bought one. A bunch of celebrity, yeah a bunch of celebrities are buying them, but Which is really funny because it's like the most shark tank sport ever Do you even do you consider it a sport deep down in your heart? Or do you just consider it? It's more of a game. I think we consider it kind of alongside maybe a cornhole for a game. I think we consider it kind of alongside maybe a corn hole for like the spike ball where you hit the trampoline ball. Have you watched on YouTube? Have you watched like a professional pickle ball? Are you a fan of those? Because I watch those with people who like pickle ball and even them are like

you watch, you know, tennis and then you know, you're watching Wimbledon and then the commercial comes on and it's like timeless and it's Roger Federer. Yeah. It's beautiful for him. It's like Rolex. So then we start getting into pickleball. I got it. Really like pickleball. But I mean, God, I mean, that pickleball channel. I mean, it's really trashy. It's the double edged sword of being that, you know, this is accessible. And not so snooty is that that tennis gets to have, you know, not that we has left us with love it. But, you know, Rolex, you know, Mu Mu did a tennis line. Lexus, that's a lot of class. Pickable kind of gets me the vibes of like when you go to like a a a new brewery and they have like that ass IPA.

You know, I'm like, this is not giving me this is not giving me like a Roger Federer in like a a white and gold cashmere sweater vest going out on the, you know, I'm going to send a cord exactly. And I think like there is like some impressiveness but like the same level as like watching someone do hacky-sack tricks like well timed and such. What cracks me up about pickleball is very it It vokes a lot of emotion like you guys yeah wound up like cheap clocks over pickleball so much so that you're willing to go on a cocaine Bender with don't you? Okay, but here's what I would say about the animals.

The emotion of pickleball is I think when you have all these fights over, you know, local tennis courts we've taken over child protective services, getting caught on the kids, all of this, I feel like that's this these pickleball was getting hyped up on this like, this juice of just like, we're the most popular sport, we're the fastest growing sport, everyone's your player of sport, and then it's like, you know, we're gonna end in a Jones town type situation pretty soon.

We're gonna put this thing away, this stuff. Let me tell you what, I will make the goddamn cool, like, she's in. She's in. She's in. She is in. Well, we'll come back and we'll co-host the podcast

with you pumps after that. Yes. Yes. We'll talk about what a net she was that it actually was a cult. We knew it all along. You sniffed it out well before I did, but definitely we all landed at the same place.

Who do you think's behind this pickleball movement? I don't think that there's any necessarily one person behind it, though it's very fun to alleged that. And when you have just a sub-suck account on Twitter, no one can really stop you from saying whatever you want. Okay, so my question is the only question that I couldn't wrap my head around in the manifesto was, why is tennis less capitalistic than pickleball? Because we say so. Okay. All right. That's good enough for me.

I like it. The serious answer is I think like there's a lot of people who play on public courts, especially in New York City who aren't like which country club people. And they get like kind of ignored as being part of like the tennis community. That's probably right. Yeah. So they're not just rich white people playing tennis. Who is your goat? Who do you think is the goat? I hate to say it, but it's probably dry. Yeah. So they're not just rich white people playing tennis. Who is your goat?

Who do you think is the goat? I hate to say it, but it's Novak. God damn it. Well, Michael, you're missing the you're missing the best answer here, which is Serena is the obvious. Yeah, we're gonna invite him in the US OpenX to your open invitation if he wants to talk about, you know, communism, if he wants to talk about vaccines, anything he can come to our small Brooklyn apartments and we'll just have a great time. I bet he does that. Sounds exactly, maybe he could take all the bacteria

out of your drinks for you. Yeah, and we will have no gluten around. No, no gluten. I'll walk on my neighbor's door and say, I can't have gluten in the building. I love it. We are all for open and civil debate, no matter how wound up we are, or you are, you know, we're going to have it out.

Everything should be at Club leftist tennis. So on Twitter, it's at Club left tennis. But I think we have merch on Big Cartel and we have articles from ourselves and a lot of actually really incredible like professional journalists on our sub-stacks. So Club leftistennis.substack.com to read more to come to come to come be tennis pills.

All right, bye, Charlie. Thank you, guys. Thank you so much. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I'm so strong, Tom. Loved it.

Love them. They're great. Love them. How much do you love because I said so it was the answer. I mean, on the capitalist question, why is pickleball worse than tennis? Right. Because we said so. So, nearly you live in Brooklyn. You're around people like this all the answer. I mean, on the capitalist question, why is pickleball worse than tennis? Right, because we said so. So, Nailie, you live in Brooklyn.

You're around people like this all the time. How fun is that? They're so great. They're so great. They're so funny. So what I want to do is I want to take all of you ladies to play pickleball. I really want to play pickleball. I don't know if this is a stupid question.

Okay. This is going to be a stupid question. It could be. I'll let you read it. I'll let you know. Why is it called pickle ball? So the story, it's a dumb name. I'm gonna give it to you. I wish it was named something cooler.

But the story is that on the West Coast in the state of Washington, there was a family and they were bored and they had like a wiffle ball and some paddles and they kind of made up this game. And I've read it one article that said like their dog's name was pickle. It's a weird name. It's not a pickle. It's a weird name, but it's a great, fantastic and contrary to what club leftist tennis

says, it is a sport. Like Cornhole is a sport. Like Cornhole and that other thing. Hockey sack. Yeah, the Hockey sack and that. I'll tell you what, I'm gonna get you guys out there and we'll check your heart rates in one of the Nielken Tell Me if you think it's a sport or not.

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