I've Had It - Trump Dump with Sen. Chris Murphy
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So we're supposed to start the podcast.
Ready?
One, two, three.
Patriots, gay triots, they triots.
Fuck off.
Oh my God, you did it and you remembered.
I kind of killed it, I feel like.
I feel like you absolutely crushed it.
Welcome to America's top DEI podcast.
You guys, there's been a vibe shift in the country.
Trump has proven to be every bit the disaster that we knew he was going to be.
It is a faceplant beyond all faceplants.
We've taken the eagle back off the shelf, rebranded her thanks to a great listener.
And we've got to fight on and try to save this country.
But before we do that, it's time to dip our toes into some petty grievances.
Pumps, what have you had it with?
What I've had it with, and this, honest to God, my head's going to explode the next time
I hear it.
I've had it with right-wing media after Trump crashes the economy, unemployment goes through
the roof saying, he's playing 4D chess.
I'm like, motherfucker, what evidence do you have that he is capable of doing anything? I mean, let's just take
a quick trip down memory lane. Inherited half a billion dollars 30 years ago, bankrupted six times,
bankrupted casinos, which is damn near impossible to do. The only qualification he has is that he
was on a reality show called The Apprentice, which was all smoke and mirrors.
They couldn't even film it at his office because it was such a dump truck. We've seen the inside of his houses.
It's dump truck city. So if I have to hear one more time,
he's playing 4D chess. I really might explode.
I'm a hundred percent concur. It is embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for the
people that say it. I'm embarrassed for these people that they can just never
quite say, you know, I supported him and it was a huge mistake. Right. All the red
flags were there. The felony charges, the grab them by the pussy, trying to give
a microphone a blowjob on the campaign trail could have been a really big red flag.
And I just got sucked up into the moment and it was a dumb thing to do and now I'm ready
to join you all and fight for this country.
But instead, these MFers, I think we're talking about a double digit IQ situation or just
breathtaking narcissism, they just
cannot reverse course. There's not a shred of decency to reverse course.
I'll tell you that brings up another one of my I've had it. I've had it with people not
taking accountability. If I fuck up or you fuck up, we will go to the other one and say,
I am sorry, I was wrong, I need to do better.
That's how it's supposed to be.
But you have ass clowns from the top, Trump, his wife, Elon Musk,
they all sit around and play victim and nobody ever says,
you know, I made a mistake.
I probably shouldn't have done that, but I'm in a reverse course now
and I'm going to do better because accountability is out the window. So now you have all these yahoos
with the balls on their trucks running around with impunity thinking nobody has to take
accountability for anything. I cannot believe we're here in 2024. It's overwhelming when you
think about the tens of millions of people that went and voted
for this man.
And here's the thing, you can only look at videos of him, not of any spin from either
Fox where they would spin it favorably or from CNN or MSNBC who might spin it unfavorably.
Eliminate all of that and just watch videos of him,
starting with the blowjob microphone situation,
and listen to what he says after that.
And then ask yourself, should this person be in charge?
Right, of anything?
Of anything, much less the United States of America.
And the problem with Trump 2.0 is now he's surrounded
by equally inept morons at a scale that is just staggering.
And the incompetence from Signalgate, you know, texting the war plans,
to these harebrained tariffs that are tanking the global economy,
to denying people due process, disappearing people off the streets,
one poor gay barber shipped down
to El Salvador. And I think what is so maddening about the whole thing is that I know that
there's millions of Americans that enjoy this. And that's the biggest heartbreaker in it.
That really is. They like the cruelty. They're in it for the cruelty. Yep. All right. I'm going to lighten it up a little bit. I have a relatable non-political
grievance. I've had it with bathroom procrastinators. And what I'm talking about is you're traveling
with a friend or your spouse and you're sitting in an airplane gate and you have an hour that you've been sitting at the gate and then the flight attendant says we're going to start
boarding in one minute and then your travel partner says I'm gonna go to the
bathroom right now and you're like wait we've been sitting here for one hour
you've had one hour to go empty the tank and you're choosing to do it now when we
all have to shuffle around and
get in line and make sure we do everything properly and efficiently. Now you're going to the bathroom.
You do this and my husband does this. I always do it because I genuinely have to go to the bathroom.
I don't try to do it on purpose. But what about the five minutes before that? You know the flight
takes off at one.
Well, here's what I do. I try to time it so that I don't have to pee on the airplane. So I'm timing
it like, okay, we board in eight minutes, then I'm going to go to the five minute mark, and then I'm
going to go to the bathroom so that way I can avoid it. But I will say, push back a little bit,
when they start picking up the microphone, you're
standing in line texting me.
We're in line, we're in line.
I'm like, yeah, but we have assigned seats.
So it doesn't matter where I really am in the line.
But I have your shit.
You take off for the bathroom.
Do you?
No, you leave.
It's always right standing by you.
You're not taking it on the plane.
Right, but then that means I can't board.
Haven't you boarded?
Yeah, because I started making you take your ship. But the, the,
Yeah, I think it's, I kind of have it as a strategic,
I think as long as it's five minutes before, I don't,
I don't want to like be walking on the plane and then go,
but I like to delay it so that I can, in hopes of avoiding the airplane,
P.
The strategy I understand a little bit. In Josh's case,
listener Josh is my husband, I think it's literally like he's just into his phone or whatever it is
that he is and it's just like, oh shit we're about to board I better go empty the tank. It's not an
intentional but I do kind of think it's chicken shit to leave your stuff with somebody then who is
then who wants to board on time, who's then held hostage.
Because you know how I am about that kind of stuff.
I like to be on time.
You like to be the first one in line.
I like to be in line.
I like to get get to my seat.
I like to bounce up and the wheels touch down.
Yes, I just have a whole rhythm.
And then sometimes I'm at the mercy of, in your case,
this delayed peeing strategy.
It's a strategy.
And in Josh's case, just irresponsible urination
is what I would call it.
That's just flat-ass irresponsible urination.
It would have been more responsible to have done it five minutes before.
Yeah.
Well, and here's the thing. Kylie, our producer, she has a strategy to dehydrate
before flying. And it's pointed out what a great strategy that is. So I've been really
trying to use that and I've been doing better. And then the pilot who did a triple flusher
on the plane and I went right after. So I've been trying to avoid toilets on airplanes
like for the past year.
I've been really good about water intake, but I do. It's a strategy. I just go right
there at the end.
Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer.
I'm Angie.
All right, Kylie, speaking of dehydrating on planes, our listeners tend to follow a
little bit of politics, follow a little petty grievances. And everybody knows that last week, Cory Booker, the senator from New Jersey, broke the record
for the longest speech on the Senate floor because he's passionate about fighting for
democracy and fighting for equality for everybody and trying to save this country from the idiot
Donald Trump and his moronic cabinet,
that micro penis parade cabinet.
And interestingly enough, Cory Booker went online
and talked about how he prepped for his 25 hour speech.
And I think Kylie has a clip.
Who wears anything that allowed you
to not have to go to the bathroom for 25 hours?
Again, I don't want to send a doctor to get mad at me.
I don't want my doctor to get mad at me.
But I really spent time dehydrating myself beforehand, so I did not have to go to the bathroom.
You didn't have to go to the bathroom at all for 25 hours.
Again, I didn't want to go to the bathroom.
Kylie, did he call you for tips?
He did. I felt so validated when I watched that.
I immediately, I saw that and I emailed it to Kylie immediately and I was like, you and
Senator Booker intentionally dehydrating him for democracy, Kylie because she's a germaphobe.
Right. And because airplane bathrooms are gross. His was selfless. Kylie's is kind of
selfish and I've adopted it.
Yeah, I like it. But you know what's interesting is every time I've been on a flight with you,
you get up to pee. I know it's awful, but I'd get up to pee twice as much if I didn't try to dehydrate.
I'm just a peer. Yeah, you are. You are. She's a big empty the tanker. Okay, I have some news
stories here today that I would like to review. Okay, excellent. The first one is study shows cows hate country music and listening to it makes them produce less
milk. Research indicates that music tempo and genre can influence dairy cows milk
production. Slow soothing music such as classical pieces has been associated
with increased milk yield due to its calming effects on cows.
Conversely, country music does not.
And here's what I have to say.
What's that asshole that just went to SNL
and then played victim?
Morgan Waller.
That guy.
So this schmuck gets invited to go on SNL.
He accepts the invitation.
This is not a command.
This is not your life is in danger.
He hops on his PJ and he flies to New York and he does SNL and then he doesn't want to
stay around in the post credit roll and hug everybody and commiserate.
He abruptly walks off stage, gets to his private plane and pops up on Instagram, can't wait to get back to God's
country with a picture of his PJ. And now he's selling merch. Get back to God's country. And I
just think, what a whining victim, titty baby. This always having to be persecuted when you signed up to go on SNL and he acts like he
was tortured in some liberal bubble.
You don't have to do SNL.
Go do, you know, go sing at Nashville at Toby Keith's, you know, go fuck me bar or whatever
the fuck that place is called.
But I mean, come on.
I've had it with country music,
except for a couple of artists like the Dixie Chicks
and maybe anybody else who isn't MAGA.
But in general, when I hear country music,
and this is old for me,
like I always just think Republicans doing bad shit.
Well, who was that guy we saw?
There's a bunch of big Trumpers
that are country music artists.
I mean, I don't know why.
It just seems that you hear that.
Maybe because the lyrics are dumb.
There's a tear in my beer and I'm crying for you, dear.
Maybe because it's like stupid music.
Maybe but here's the thing that I take away from all that.
Just like you said, nobody's making you be on SNL.
Nobody's making Elon Musk, nosedive his stock and go in and harm people on purpose
and then sit around and cry about it because people don't like him.
You asked for this.
This is a consequence of your behavior.
Be accountable.
The victimhood that I see in 2025, it's like Trump 2.0 makes the victimhood of Trump 1.0, which was unbelievable,
blows it out of the water. I didn't think that grown billionaires could cry around about
poor me as much as I've seen in the 75 days that Trump has been in office. It is unbelievable.
Can you imagine if the woman was crying around about what a victim she was?
She'd be hysterical.
She'd be unhinged.
These men are the biggest whining titty babies
I have ever seen in my life.
They are.
I've never seen such meltdowns.
You know, the Little Mermaid's black.
Republicans and MAGA have a fucking meltdown.
You're scared of a black mermaid?
What the fuck is wrong with you, you pussy? They're mad at Snow White because she spoke
out for the actress that played Snow White. She spoke out about all of the senseless killings
in Palestine and bashed Trump and now they're having stage five meltdowns over heard. They are the biggest crying, whinging group of titty babies.
It's just unbelievable. I simply don't watch things that I don't like that might
have an actor in it that I don't like. I would not go to a Kid Rock concert and
then make a whole thing on Instagram where I'm a victim of Kid Rock. I would
simply forego the concert and hence forgo being
a victim. It's that simple. Next up, we've got a story. Gen Z wants us to stop using
the thumbs up emoji as it's deemed too passive aggressive. Gen Z is officially calling out
the thumbs up emoji saying it feels passive, aggressive,
and outdated, especially in work chats.
What older generations see as simply okay or noted, younger users are interpreting as
cold, dismissive, or even sarcastic.
And here's what I have to say to that.
Double thumbs up.
This is ridiculous.
This is so ridiculous. This is the part where there's a
weird intersection in pop culture with our podcast, where we are really liberal and progressive and
leftist and we want to lift up marginalized people and validate people's feelings and be
politically correct. And this is the part where I'm not at all
politically correct because I say,
if you're upset about a thumbs up emoji,
the problem is not the emoji, the problem is you.
And I would predict that as soon as your parents
found out you were conceived,
there was a hideous obnoxious gender reveal party. I would expect
that you probably schlep a couple of Stanley cups to work with you when you're upset about
the thumbs up emoji. I just think this is insane to get your panties in a wad about an emoji.
You know, here's the thing. I think we've created this whole generation and I am guilty of this.
You're so special. You're so great. Everything you do is so good. And so now they send a works
text and they receipt is acknowledged with an okay. And what they wanted was a standing ovation.
Oh my gosh, little baby, you are so good. You're the best at this. It's just like, that is not reality.
I agree with all of that.
And I also want to add this.
Sometimes I think a heart is too strong.
I agree.
Sometimes I message somebody something like, hey, I'm running five minutes late.
And then I get the heart emoji in response and I'm like, you love that?
Like we're at love already.
And it's like somebody that I just met, a new client or something.
I'm like, we're loving each other's texts. That's what the beauty of the thumbs up. It's benign.
It doesn't, it just notes an acknowledgement. I see your text. I understand that you're running late.
I'm not going to start saying, I love it. I love that you sent me a text. Sometimes the heart is too aggressive
for me. And that's why, and there's some people that you text that you don't like. And the
last thing you're thinking about is hearting anything that they do. And that's the beauty
of the thumbs up. Sometimes it's fun to be passive aggressive. Sometimes passive aggressive
is a tool that's in your toolbox that you can fuck with people that you work with that you don't like.
What I have to say to Gen Z is learn how to harness being stealth passive aggressive and quit demanding love and red heart emojis from everyone because the world is a very disappointing place.
Hone your passive aggressive skills.
I like that. Hone them. Get better at it. All right and in a related story,
news of teens who don't enjoy life has doubled thanks to social media study reveals. Research
published in Nature Communication indicates that the impact of social media on life satisfaction
varies across different stages of adolescence. The study found that during certain developmental periods, increased social media use predicts
a decrease in life satisfaction one year later.
And here's what I have to say.
I get it.
When I'm on social media a lot, I'm not as happy.
The idea when I'm down on my phone like this, looking at it for longer
than 20 minutes, I think, put your posture up, put your phone down, live your life.
There's a whole world out there that you want to see.
But I do kind of think these two things are connected.
This artificial world of social media and getting butt hurt over thumbs up emojis. People need to live their lives and don't project
into social media too much as to filling a void.
And don't put a burden on the recipient of a text
with what emoji they should use.
I agree.
They're totally bedfellows.
And it's just sad to me that because of social media
and the use of it, kids are getting
less interaction, in-person interaction.
And I'm not surprised that this is a result, lonely, sadder, all of those things.
Plus they're comparing themselves all the time.
It's a sad situation.
It really is.
It really is.
OK.
Today, you guys, we have a great guest.
His name is Senator Chris Murphy from the great
state of Connecticut. And this is a man when Trump first started his second term. I know that we all
felt national paralysis and fear and like, what the fuck is going on? And it felt like the Democrats
weren't fighting. It felt like there wasn't a cohesive message.
And there was one constant, with the exception of Bernie Sanders, AOC, that really spoke the truth.
And I would think, are they seeing what I'm seeing? And then I'd go to Chris Murphy's Twitter,
and he was seeing exactly, and he would explain it perfectly. And this man is a fierce defender
of democracy. He's a fierce defender of equal rights, civil rights, social justice, the things that are
important to all of us here on Asshole Island.
So let's welcome to I've Had It, Senator Chris Murphy.
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a fierce defender of democracy and fighter of fascism. Senator
Chris Murphy of Connecticut. Senator, thank you so much for joining us. How are you today?
How's your job going? How's work? Well, those are two different questions. I'm good. I'm
healthy. My children are healthy. It stopped raining. My job is a pain in the ass these days.
Right. Yeah. Okay. So we like to start off with just a daily petty grievance. And so
we ask all of our guests what they've had it with. So Senator Chris Murphy, what have
you had it with? Price gouging by sports teams. So I just tried
to buy tickets for me and my two
sons to go to a Red Sox game on Boston. It's my favorite team. I
really want my kids to become Boston Red Sox fans. I'm not
winning that argument. Like to get a seat that's like, you
know, within like eyesight of the field $175, $150 bucks, like,
I'm not like complaining about the amount of money I make, but
like nobody who's making
$50,000 a year can afford to go to like a Red Sox game or a Bruins game or a Rangers
game. And like, that's tragic because that's like a coming of age experience for kids.
And like, it's now just affordable for hedge fund managers and CEOs. And it's, I don't
know, it's
heartbreaking to me as like a sports fan who like my
relationship with my father was all about our relationship to
sports and live sports. So that's, that's, that's what I'm
that's my headache.
Yeah, I get that. We're big Oklahoma City Thunder fans. And
they're like the top team in the NBA, which when you live in a
little market city like ours, it's a BFD to quote the former president.
And same thing, like they're probably going to make it to the playoffs and it's so expensive
and you want to get good seats and you want to experience the ambiance.
But I want to share with our listeners something I thought was really wholesome and sweet about
you. We were trying to book you and we kept,
we like to, Pumps and I like to film at like 8 a.m.
And your staff said that you were unavailable
because you like to take your kids to school.
And I just thought in this world
of all this horrible Trumpism and all of these horrible men
that are trying to be so macho, that just was like,
I was like, oh, he takes his kids
to school every morning. I loved hearing that. Yeah. I mean, that's still my most important
job, you know, being a dad and they're 16 and 13. So like I'm, I'm on the clock. Like
I don't have that many years where, you know, I get to see them every single day. And you
know what, for as long as I've done this job, but especially right now like they're the grounds right like
you can't get like to self-important when you got to
kids that don't really care that you're United States
Center that just you know want to know if you can help them
with their homework or unwind you know the problem with
their you know the girl they like at school. So like to me
like that's sort of what you you know, what keeps me honest in
this job is by spending as much time as I can with them. And you know, like, it's so hard at that age
to get them to talk to you. So that drive to school when I have them like trapped in the car
is sometimes the only, you know, moment that I can actually get them to answer some questions. So yeah,
sorry that we had to, you know, rejigger around the
drive-in-to-school schedule, but yeah, pretty important.
I was really happy to do it. But I'm worried about young boys in this country
right now. I have two sons. Pumps has two sons. You just mentioned that you had
two sons. And we have a president that ushered in Andrew Tate. He had, what was
the name of that boxer?
Conor McGregor.
Connor McGregor at the White House.
The president himself, we all know what he said
on the Access Hollywood tape, adjudicated rapist,
all sorts of just horrible misogyny
that seems to be mainstreamed.
And I know there isn't a political fix for this per se,
but just as a dad and as a parent, what can you speak on to this
rising surge of misogyny and that the boys in this country, they just don't seem like
they're okay. And it really worries me.
Yeah, I think about this all the time. And it's so heartbreaking to me that we have outsourced
to the right a conversation with men and boys.
And like, I just do think we have to be honest
that like men in general are going
through something right now.
And of course they are because for like thousands of years
our societies were patriarchal.
Men were on top of everything, on top of families,
the economy, culture, and they still are.
But all of a sudden women are in the workforce. All of a
sudden, in 40% of families, the female makes more than the male. And so, you know, the easy way that
you used to identify yourself, you know, as a man, right, protect your breadwinner, for a lot of men
has disappeared. And, you know, the right has this really irresponsible, you know, tale to tell.
Let's just dial it back, you know, to 1950 or 1880.
And that's not right.
But the left kind of tells boys and men, like, just get over it.
Like just get over it.
And that's a hard thing to get over because you've got to replace that identity structure
with something else.
And then, you know, there's a couple other things
going on for boys, and you guys know this.
One, I think social media has been, in some ways,
much more harmful on boys because they are, you know,
less natural in creating social connections.
And so when they get given this invitation
to withdraw into their phone, boys really easily take it
because they're just not as naturally connected as I think as young women are.
And then let's just be honest, like the Me Too movement has been confusing for young boys, right?
Sort of not knowing exactly sort of what's acceptable, what's not acceptable in terms of how they approach girls, which has also caused a lot of them to withdraw, you know, not as much dating, boys having sex much later.
That's been tough on boys, too. So there's just a lot going on. And the left is just
kind of like, I don't want to talk about it. It's messy. I'm going to say the wrong words.
And the only message that these boys get is from the right, which is it's the women who've done this to you.
And we would just be better to dial the whole culture back.
And that's a terrible answer.
We gotta have a better one.
I completely agree.
One thing that we talk about all the time on this podcast
is that we have these white men in positions of power,
Trump and his wife
slash controller, Elon Musk, sitting around crying that they're victims all
the time, yet they juxtapose themselves as these alpha males. And I'm like,
how can people watch this and think, oh yeah, billionaires crying about poor me
is perfectly acceptable.
And I just wonder from your perspective in a position of power,
how do you perceive the constant self victimizing?
Yeah, I mean, it's just a tactic that they're using to try to get richer.
I mean, this this whole thing is a con.
It's it's Donald Trump, Elon Musk, their Mar-a-Lago friends
just making up arguments to enable them to steal from us, right, to, you know, award themselves contracts,
to shut down programs that matter to the middle class,
like Medicaid, in order to give themselves more,
in order to reward contracts to them and their friends,
to give themselves more tax breaks.
So, you know, they're going to tell whatever story
is necessary
to engage in that kind of theft.
I do think we have to have a conversation
about where male role models exist.
It is true. A lot of young men do look up to people
like Elon Musk and Mark Cuban,
people who've had this tremendous economic success.
But success is not just becoming a billionaire, right?
Success is, you know, being a leader,
being a good human being, giving back to your community.
So one of the things that I'm obsessive about
is getting more men into teaching
so that, you know, you have more male role models
that are just doing good,
providing an education in the classroom.
We need more young men to have easy attachment
to male role models early in their life. The dad can be your male role model, but a lot
of young men don't have dads in their lives. And teachers can do that, but we still have
a hard time getting men into the teaching profession. That could help alleviate this
reflex that a lot of young men have to sort of look just at the billionaire class
as their set of role models. So ever since Trump took 2.0 started, there was this like
paralysis, nationwide paralysis, and all of us were kind of searching for the truth. Who's going
to speak truly about what's happening and what we're seeing. And consistently Senator you were one of those people that I saw on MSNBC or I could go to your Twitter
page and I was like he's telling us he's verifying that what I'm seeing and
pardon my language but this fuckery is real and that they're doing this on
purpose and they're doing this for sport or for Vladimir Putin or for
both and you spoke about it and it was so comforting
because knowing the truth, even if it's not what you want to hear, at least you know that
that's the truth. And so with these tariffs, you see all of these Americans losing their
401ks that they paid into their whole life. And then they may be thinking, oh, this sucks.
I'm going to have social security. Well, we know Elon Musk has called that a Ponzi scheme and a lot of your co-workers are trying
to dismantle and privatize that, which is not going to end well. And so when I went after these
tariffs, I went to your Twitter page and you had the most logical example and you beautifully wrote
that you think this is an additional attack on democracy so that corporations
and business would be beholden to Trump. He likes reducing people and reducing
businesses to come to him and kiss the ring, which brings me back to my one
point. A lot of this is done for sport, for a broken man with inner child issues
and it's manifesting in the United States of America.
Yeah, that's that's right. I mean, I think you have to see everything through one prism,
right? This is this is a broken man, but a broken man who wants to rule forever, who
wants to crush the opposition so that he or his family or his chosen successor can rule in perpetuity.
And, you know, there's a playbook for how this happens,
how somebody who's democratically elected
never leaves power.
You basically co-opt all of the centers of power
in the country, and you force them
to essentially sign loyalty pledges.
So that's what's happening right now.
He's doing that with law firms. He's doing that with law firms.
He's doing that with colleges and universities.
And now he's going to do that with industry.
That's what the tariffs are about.
At least that's my opinion.
Last night, economists were like super confused
when the tariffs came out because they were like,
this doesn't make any sense.
Like there's no logical explanation
for how this is gonna improve jobs
or improve the trade balance. And you know what I said is you read, right, it doesn't make sense economically because it has nothing
to do with economics. What he's doing is he's setting up this system of penalization
on industry so that every industry or every big business has to come to him, bend the knee,
kiss the ring, and pledge loyalty in order to get tariff relief. And that'll have a double impact.
First, the economy will get a little bit better
when he releases a certain set of tariffs
and everybody can shout hooray,
but then he gets the loyalty pled.
I don't know what that looks like,
but the company could decide
to never publicly criticize the president.
They could pledge campaign contributions.
They could decide that
they're going to police their employees and make sure none of their employees work for Democrats. It's not economic policy. It's just about his need to have people prostrate themselves to him
and his belief that in doing that, the democracy will become so weak, the opposition will become
so weak that he won't ever have to worry about Democrats winning. I don't think that's how it's
going to play out. I still think that we have the power to defeat him, but that's the game that he won't ever have to worry about Democrats winning. I don't think that's how it's going to play out. I still think that we have the power to defeat him. But that's
the game that he's playing. All right. Let's do a little trash talking on your former co-worker,
Marco Rubio, and what an abject disappointment Lil Marco has become. And I think Trump kind of
pegged him when he first ridiculed him back in 2016.
I am just so embarrassed for him because he knows better.
He knows what happened with Zelensky in the Oval Office was an ambush for a party of one
for Vladimir Putin.
Russian state TV is in there and he just sits there and goes along with this
bullshit and I just I don't know the guy personally but you do. What is your take
on this? The emasculation by Donald Trump of so many of these MAGA men and you know
there's a theme that's running through this whole conversation with you and it
is this masculinity either you know realized or unrealized or in search of.
But Donald Trump consistently enjoys emasculating people because maybe Freud would say he's
never been realized as a strong man himself.
But we'll do a psychology episode another day.
But let's gossip about Marco Rubio.
Yeah, I can't explain what has happened to Rubio.
When he first came to the Senate, I mean, he was an interesting guy. He, you know, participated in
a big bipartisan negotiation to change the immigration laws. He actually signed onto a
bill that would have provided a pathway to citizenship for, you know, 12 million Americans.
And then, you know, over time, he just stopped
being interesting. So this wasn't terribly surprising to us who have watched Rubio. I
mean, he hasn't participated in any bipartisan talks. He hasn't had an interesting idea in
a decade. I think and so like, I think it's really hard to understand, like what happens
when the cult takes over.
If you had a friend who went away and joined
the cult for three years, who came back
a fundamentally different person, and somebody said,
what happened?
You'd be like, well, I don't know.
I wasn't with them in the cult.
I wasn't.
I didn't see the indoctrination they were doing on them.
That's kind of my view.
It's like they go into this closed information ecosystem,
right, where they are only hearing from the MAGA voices
in which Donald Trump dominates.
That's not the world I live in, but something in that world
corrupts both your mind and your soul.
So you go from being interesting and sometimes independent,
like Marco Rubio was, to a stooge in which,
like, you just take orders.
It's like a cult.
And I don't understand how it works.
And like, maybe there's a, you know,
there's like a magic potion that they give these guys,
but they just come out on the other end of it,
fundamentally different people.
And Rubio's not alone.
There's plenty of other
members of Congress who used to be interesting, who are now, you know, just sycophants. Yeah, totally. Okay, another person that I've totally had it with, I've always had it with him
forever, is obviously Mitch McConnell. But the fact that he's now like an asshole that's finding
a moment of clarity, clarity really sits in my craw because it's just like, asshole that's finding a moment of clarity, really sits in my craw
because it's just like, dude, you've been an asshole forever.
You built, you fed, you coddled, you rocked this entire beast in this moment where we
are right now.
You're Supreme Court, you dicked over Obama.
You're one of the main architects of this entire dismantling.
And now you found Jesus and you're voting like you voted a couple nights ago with you
all.
And it just pisses me off because it shows that they just like to own the libs for sport.
And then when it gets down to it, he's like, oh shit, hold up.
I don't, I don't want to do it.
Oh yeah.
It really pisses me off.
I mean, like, what's it like when you see him at work? I mean, but I have the same, like I have the same feeling that I do. Oh, yeah. It really pisses me off. I'm like, what's it like when you see him
at work? I mean, but I have the same like I have the same feeling that you do, right? Because like,
I can't I can't not have some appreciation for the fact that like, he's the only one doing
the right thing. But he birthed this. Yes, birth this like this is his baby. And he midwifed the Tea Party into existence,
which led to MAGA.
And then, you know, he's got a number of sins
that he will have to account for.
But, you know, at the heart of it
is the second impeachment trial, right?
There were six Republicans that came out and voted for it.
That meant that we only had to get about 10 more Republicans,
and we would have disqualified Trump
from ever running for office again.
If Mitch McConnell, who was very powerful then,
by the time he left being the minority majority leader,
he had lost a lot of influence.
But back then, had he come out and put his vote
where his mouth was, right?
He condemned Trump's role in January 6th,
but then he wouldn't vote to impeach him.
Had he impeached him, had he voted to impeach him,
I'm almost sure that another eight or 10 Republicans
would have come along with him.
Trump would have been disqualified from office.
This would still be a dark moment,
but it wouldn't be as dystopian as it is.
And so I'm with you.
Like I have such complicated feelings about McConnell, in part because he also did some good things,
you know, before this election.
Like, we passed the bipartisan gun bill,
which has saved a ton of lives in this country in 2022,
because McConnell decided finally
to do something about guns.
Like, he literally pushed that bill into existence
on the Republican side.
So there's, like, a decent handful of good things
that he has done, but those original sins, I mean, you just can't wash them away.
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Okay.
And then there's just one Senator I just love.
And I just, I need to know, we've had him on the podcast but it was via zoom.
I just love Bernie, you know, I just feel like he just puts on his mittens and he goes
to work for working class Americans and he's always had the same message.
And he was right.
He was right about so much about the pitfalls of capitalism and then in America, you were
kind of talking about this earlier where we operate a lot under the assumption.
We assume that because somebody is a billionaire that they're a genius.
And I think anybody who's seen an interview of Elon Musk and it appears that he speaks
English as though it's his second language, I'm like, I don't think that guy's very smart.
I mean, I'm just not, I'm thinking he's an opportunist, an intelligent person about how
to create an opportunity.
But Bernie has been calling this out, this oligarchy and sounding the alarm. And is he
fun to work with? Or is he always just kind of like that
Muppet character?
I mean, so the person you see, like what you imagine Bernie to
be like behind the scenes is exactly what Bernie is like
behind the scenes, right? Like Bernie is passionate. He is kind of crotchety, right? Like he can sometimes be a
little intimidating to sit down next to and talk to because, you know, he's on it all the time.
But he and I have become much closer over the last year because I really have become convinced
that he has the message, right? That his message of fierce, pugilistic economic populism,
like, I'm gonna tell you who's screwing you,
and I'm gonna tell you exactly how we're gonna fix it.
That is the crossover message.
That is the message that actually steals voters
from Trump's base.
And for a long time, the Democratic Party looked at Bernie
as kind of this, like, fringe figure to avoid.
Well, we can't let our party adopt Bernie Sanders message.
No, actually, his message is the message that resonates
with a whole lot of poor people out there, a whole lot of people
who have been fucked over by the existing economic order.
And, you know, whether Bernie's the messenger or not, I don't know.
But what he is selling corporations ruining your life,
corporate consolidation being bad for small businesses
and bad for workers, power to unions,
double the minimum wage, like that's it.
Like that's the winning message.
And so as I've begun to say that more publicly
and privately, Bernie and I have become closer
and it's one of the most fun parts for me of the last year
is getting closer to him and feeling a little bit
less intimidated than I used to be to sit down next to Bernie Sanders and start
a conversation.
I agree with you that that's the message moving forward for the Democratic Party.
We are based in Oklahoma City, red state, Trump dump, already Christian nationalism here,
ranked 49th in education.
So we can always make the argument to people, if you want to know what Republican policies
do, look at states that have Republican supermajorities. Their economy's
not the best, poverty, bad education, bad healthcare, et cetera. But the one thing I
like about Bernie's messaging is that it's an inclusive message. And it is that if we
fight for economic equality for everybody, that means everybody. So to, you know, Bob and Karen
that live over here in rural Oklahoma, you might think that a trans kid is the worst thing you've
ever heard of, but we can't see their rights because once we see their rights, then they're
coming for the lesbians and the gays and then they're coming for the women. And then before
you know it, they're coming for you and the corporations control everybody and
what I like about Bernie's message is that it can encapsulate the left side of the party
and the center everybody because it's equality for all and I don't think the message right now is to run to the center and hang out
with Dick with Liz Cheney. And look, we have a Republican that likes us. I'm just like, we can't
give somebody a trophy because they looked at Trump and said, he's a moron and he's dangerous.
Like, my kids did that. They're teenagers, you know, so I think that low bar. Yeah, exactly.
And so anyway, I I'm so happy to have you on
because I've been like psychostalking you the last,
because you tell the truth.
Like you tell us the truth.
Like what you're seeing is real
and it's some really nefarious shit
and it's really happening.
And so I was wondering like, does Chris Murphy have Riz?
And I was like, after this interview,
I'm like, you've got some Riz.
You have Riz.
Yeah, you've got some Riz. But we're gonna play a game with you called- I'm blushing, I'm like, you've got some Riz. You have Riz. Yeah, you've got some Riz.
But we're going to play a game with you called...
I'm blushing.
I'm blushing.
I'm blushing now.
You've got some Riz.
No, it's embarrassing.
Here's what I do.
I mean, I just, I think the coin of the realm today is authenticity.
Like, people want to hear what you really think.
So like, you reference that like long Twitter thread that I sent out last night calling out
the tariffs as bullshit.
It's all just a mechanism to try to compel loyalty from the business community. Like, I, you know, that's just me, right? Like,
that's just me literally sitting in my kitchen table being like, this is bullshit. I'm going
to call it out. Those videos I do, they're not scripted, right? That's just sort of me saying,
bring in the camera. I want to talk about this. You know, there's a lot of political communication
these days that gets filtered, you gets filtered by consultants and pollsters
and communications professionals.
And I have a great team of communications people
in my office, but like they just let me be myself.
And that's what people want, right?
Is for you to show, that's why Corey's thing was so great
the other night was Corey was like himself,
he was showing legitimate outrage.
He cried in the middle of his filibuster.
Like people want to see who we really are.
And the voices that are breaking through right now
in democratic politics are the voices
that are not holding back.
Like are willing to make some mistakes sometimes
but are just showing you passion, heartbreak, anger.
You know, and that's what I'm trying to do.
And that's key.
Maybe I succeed every other day.
Democrats cannot be risk adverse.
I mean, when you see everything that MAGA politicians have done with impunity, if you
missed up, if you misspeak, if you say one thing one day and then you talk to a bunch
of voters over the course of the next two weeks and you evolve your opinion, so freaking
be it.
I mean, because at this point as a Democrat, I'm always going to say like, you voted for a guy that tried to give a microphone a blowjob on the
campaign trail and you want to preach to me about my vote? Fuck off. And that's what the attitude
I think Dems need to have. Okay, we're going to dive more into the riz of Chris Murphy with our
next game and it's called Had It or Hit It.
And so I'm going to list something and if you like it, you'll say hit it.
And if you don't like it, you'll say had it.
Oh my God.
Welcome to Had It or Hit It.
I would hit it.
Had it.
Had it.
I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day.
Okay.
Town halls.
Hit it.
I want to hit it. Yeah. I'm going to go do town. I'm doing town halls all over the country and Republican districts. We need more of them. Hold these
bastards to account. Okay. Group chats, especially on Signal app.
Had it or hit it? Well, hit it, but like, just be careful.
No more plans. Strategic. Okay. Be careful. Like don't do work. Yeah, I'm all for signal chats. Just like
less. More signal chats, less war plans. Okay. Okay. Two more. Had it or hit it cyber trucks.
Had it. Totally agree. Peeny weeny micro penis parade. All right, last one. Had it or hit it speaker of the house, Mike Johnson.
I mean, had it, but there's no better options. Like, I mean, it's not like, yeah, the better option is
Hakeem Jeffries. So if that's my option, then had it. But like, if the option is like, whatever the
new Matt Gaetz is, I would reconsider the habit.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, Senator Murphy, thank you for joining us today.
Keep fighting fascism and fighting for democracy.
We really like you and tell your kids
you were on a cool podcast in Carpool tomorrow.
We'll do.
See you guys.
Bye. Bye.
He does have Riz.
He has some Riz. I think, you know, I loved that he
trash-talked his coworkers because everybody loves to talk shit on their coworkers. Everybody loves
it. And you know, if you were a senator or a congressman, the trash-talking at that level,
it's epic. I mean, that is like peak trash talking. And so I'm glad that he came
on here to do a little trash talking of some of his coworkers because everybody likes to
do it.
Everybody likes to do it. Now, here's the question. Do you think when we leave Kylie
and Seth Trash Talk S?
Oh my God, 1,000 million percent.
A million percent.
As they should.
As they should.
They absolutely, I mean, bitching about your boss is just something that you do.
It's a rite of passage.
Right. And if you don't expect to be trash-talked at work,
then you're probably in the wrong job.
I would be disappointed in them if they didn't trash-talk us.
Right. Just don't let us ever hear it. That's the only thing.
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