I've Had It - Turning Point Twinks
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So are we supposed to start the podcast?
Ready, one, two, three.
Patriots, gay, triots, they triots, black triots, brown triots, we love you.
And all of the fascist triple Trumpers can do what pumps?
You did the double bird with that.
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Poms, what have you had it with?
Okay, what I've had it with, and I think this just proves that I am nothing but a cranky old fart.
I have had it with self-checkout until I only have three items, and then I have to wait in line.
So then I've had it that they don't have self-checkout.
So what I've decided is I can't be happy.
I don't want to be happy.
I want to bitch that there's no self-checkout, and then I want to bitch that there's only self-checkout.
I relate to this.
There are so many things that I have absolutely had it with.
And then when they're not available to me, I'm curious.
I'm irritated at that.
I think that's incredibly relatable.
I would imagine that you're not very good at self-checkout.
Okay.
I have to say, I am not very good at self-checkout.
And it has given me like a huge respect for grocers that do that all day.
Because like finding the deal and doing all that, it's just harder than I thought it would be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I imagined.
Yeah, I imagined.
I'm kind of surprised to no one.
I'm great at self-checkout.
I shine.
I thrive.
I'm ready.
I'm efficient.
It's kind of like I approach self-checkout the same way I do TSA.
When I go through TSA, I want all of the TSA agents to be like in all.
Like, wow, she was ready.
She had everything out and ready.
She went through.
What a great passenger she is.
Likewise, I think about the feelings and the observational view of the checker outers behind me, the customer's behind me.
They were like, God, this old lady, this Jen asked for it.
It's going to take forever.
And I'm like, hold my beer.
Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, out the door.
Look how good I am.
And I got my dogs with me half the time, too.
And they just sit and they just, they watch.
And that's of great support, as you can imagine.
All right.
So let me tell you what I've had it with.
This has to do with my husband, Josh.
And he doesn't really listen to this podcast.
He just finds out from other people what I say about him on it.
Yeah.
So when he was in New York last week, we work out together.
And it's fun to do, to go work out together.
The problem is I like to work.
out without taking a break. Like if I do a bicep curl and then a squat and then a sit-up and I'm
going to do all of those things in rotation, I don't take a break in between each one. And he likes to
lollygag and have a sip water and all of these things, right? Which, okay, whatever, I'm a little bit
more fit than he is. I mean, whatever. So the last, I went at his pace Monday through Thursday
that he was in New York last week.
I went, we were team, we were in unison.
He did a curl, I was doing curls.
If I finished before him, I paused.
I waited.
By Friday, I had fucking had it.
Yeah.
And I was like, it's game on.
So I went and our trainer's name is Emily.
And I was like, okay, Emily, what's the next exercise?
And I have laughed him now.
I'm like so far ahead of him in the exercise.
I can feel the titty.
baby exuding from his body, right? I can feel it. And I know, I've made a calculation. I know
that later on today, I'm going to hear like, we were supposed to work out together. And I knew.
And I thought, you know what? I'm going to take that because I want my heart rate to get up and I want
my heart rate to stay up. And I'll just, I'll deal with the aftermath at a later date. So I finish the
workout much faster than he does. And I go to the rowing machine and just crank out about.
700 meters, just until he finishes. Oh, you were that far ahead. Oh, way ahead. Wow. It's not even,
not even close. Okay. So we leave, and as we walk home, it starts. He said, you know,
we were supposed to like work out together. And I go, oh, here we go. Here we go. I knew this was
coming. And he goes, I said, I'm just, I don't like to take a break. I like to get a cardio exercise.
And if we're just working out for an hour, I can rest before, I can rest after, I don't want to rest
during.
I like to be an efficient person.
And he said, well, I'm lifting much heavier weights than you are.
And I'm really, you know, like basically he's telling me he's stronger and he's a better
exerciser than I am, that I'm just blazing through it.
And that's not the case.
Yes, he is stronger.
He is stronger.
There's no question.
He's a male.
He's six foot four, et cetera.
Actually, six foot three.
Last year, he upgraded his height to six foot four.
Total fraud on his, all of his identifications.
At 56 years old, he upgraded his height.
And that's something we'll leave to our psychoanalyst to discuss at a much later date because, enough.
But of course, he is stronger.
But I wasn't like going fast with each exercise.
I was, you know, up one, two, down.
I was doing all of that just without breaking and lollygagging and drinking water,
which everybody knows how much I oppose performative hydration, even at a gym.
Even if you need it.
So he got so smoked out.
And then the remainder of the day, it was hilarious.
And Josh can laugh at himself.
So, I mean, he's like performatively upset for the listener.
It's not like this is real.
But he was like, I mean, I just thought we were supposed to go in there together.
like we were supposed to do it together.
So I've kind of had it with him slowing me down at the gym.
And then just a follow up here on some gym stuff that I want to report back.
My grievance from a month or two ago about people that like maybe they're on the,
a machine, some sort of machine that you want to use.
Let's say the leg press.
And they're going to do three sets.
And they break and don't do another exercise like I do.
like I'm going to do a leg press, then I'm going to do something else, something else.
This individual random gym attender is going to do the leg press,
and then they're going to hold and stay on the leg press for their break,
and then do another set and another set.
I don't have a problem if you want to hold and stay.
What I have a problem with is during your hold and stay, you want to get on Instagram.
And then you're, yeah, these people are on Instagram,
bogarting the machines.
And the next thing you know, like all of us,
you're like, oh, that's an interesting hashtag.
And the next thing you know,
750 weeks ago,
Shirley Q from Dayton, Ohio,
did XYZ and you're down some rabbit hole,
which is fine.
I'm totally fine with being a psycho on Instagram.
What I'm not fine with is public psychotic Instagram use
while other people are waiting to use your machine.
So I think that people,
I think social media should be banned in gyms.
I agree.
I think phones in all forms.
should be vanden gyms.
Like nobody's so important that they need to take a phone call during the gym.
Like, I mean, maybe just like, hey, can you pick this up?
Yeah.
Okay, bye.
But not like how are you, what your mother-in-law, nothing like that.
Here's my thing.
Josh is a peddler.
He just, he's just kind of.
He can lollygaggar around and he can kind of get off on tangents, which I can kind of do too.
And you're a push through, get it done, like hyper-focused.
Like a machine.
But here's the deal on.
Josh, I mean, honestly, for him to say, I thought we were doing that together.
I know he's laughing about it and it's funny because he doesn't really care that much.
But can you imagine if you were married to someone that was legitimate about that?
Like that, my whole skin crawled when you were talking about that.
Because I know Josh was giving you shit.
Yeah.
But I cannot.
I know I have people that I know that like if they watch a show together and then the other
person watches an episode without them. It is, it's like a breakdown of epic proportions,
which I believe that Kylie and Ana do this. Welcome to, I've had it. Kylie, do you and Anna have this
situation with shows? We do. I think this would be ubiquitous with lesbians, high charged emotional
stuff. Yeah, and I'm a very serious TV watcher. Yeah. Right. Anna, you know, pretty ADHD.
TV's not like, she's just not laser focused on it. I'm the annoying one that's like watching her watch the show to make sure
she's paying attention.
I would hate that.
So I've just started blazing through, and I think she's kind of given up on.
I want to talk to you all about something.
This is something interesting that we need to discuss with the Les Triots.
So if you have friends that are a lesbian couple and you're friends with one over the other,
but you like the other person's wife a lot, and you're going to do some sort of girl dinner,
oftentimes you might think I want to invite my main friend but not the wife well that seems
really exclusionary you know that's that doesn't seem right but nobody else is bringing their
husband right so this is a tricky situation in lesbian culture and kiley i'd like for you to weigh in
on this because i've experienced this back in oklahoma city we have um you know a lot of my pickleball
friends are lesbians and this is
is something that we've we've talked about so how do you how do you navigate this you've just nailed like a
real issue it's real because the the lines are so blurred with it being girls right on and i have
we purposely work on this like she has to go have time with her friends it's completely separate
because i wouldn't want my friend to bring her boyfriend who i don't like so like but it is tricky
like couple friends especially in lesbians it's it's foursome or pretty much bust someone's feeling
are going to get hurt.
Couldn't the rule just be, if you're not inviting the husbands, the girlfriend doesn't
come, the wife doesn't grow?
Then what do you do?
What do you do?
You say, okay, here's the deal.
It's no husband's no.
We're inviting Anna because she's a little bit more feminine than you are, Kylie.
So that's our decision making.
Well, that seems discriminatory.
Right.
Well, but if they're Kylie's friends.
We're only inviting a lipstick lesie, which Kylie, I'm not saying you're not a lipstick
lezzy because clearly you're dropped dead, gorge.
I do have a tie on though today.
You do.
Perfect for your.
for my argument. Yeah. So how do you determine
which lesbian gets excluded? I'm telling you guys, this is a real
pickle that people are not talking about at all. I think there's a lot of
pickles in lesbian relationships that get fucking blurred because it's two
girls like you're really tapping into something. That's before we even get
to the Subaru's in the U-Hauls. Exactly.
You know? There's a girl at my dog school that has a Subaru and she, I mean,
I try to be patient with her. I don't, I don't know if she's a lesbian or
just directionally challenged.
Like, for whatever reason, we're following each other into dog school.
It's like, she doesn't know where to turn in.
I'm like, it's a fucking driveway.
It's not that hard.
But every day we have to go.
I mean, just like, so now I have my eye on her.
I don't think she's a lesbian because they're not directionally challenged.
I would agree with that, Kylie.
I have a driveway.
You've been there before, lady.
Come on.
Interesting car choice for a heterosexual woman, though.
I just leave that here.
I have a friend that drives a Subaru.
She loves it.
She's not a lesbian.
Really?
Are you sure?
I'm sure about that. You know, this midlife lesbian thing is really taken off. It's huge.
Yeah, it's a big thing. It's a really, really big thing. Even in Oklahoma. I mean, big thing. I think especially in the Bible belt. I think that's at the limit. At least on the download for sure. Yeah. That's why that hunting wives is so popular. All the churchies are doing scissors.
Bible study scissors. We're going to go in Bible study. We're going to go from two Corinthians and then break.
out into a jack rabbit scissor.
It was pumps and her friends.
Oh my God, you guys, so ever since I did the gossiping about the characters at my gym about
the Jack Rabbit in particular, so I forget that the podcast has grown this much, right?
And so, because I always just think it's us and the listener, right?
Because that's what it's always been.
And we're so incompetent and such morons.
Every single day since I, in detail described the Jack Rabbit.
he's been there.
He's always at the same spot where I am.
And I'm always like to Emily, I'm like, oh my God, there's the jackrabbit.
I talked about him on the pod.
And he's over there just jackrabbit.
And he's just going, I mean, he's just going, he does these jackrabbit exercises like this.
It's bananas.
But I think like, does he know?
Does he know?
I haven't seen the handstand guy.
That's what I was going to ask.
I've not seen him.
I've not seen him.
And I really quite enjoyed watching him exercise.
I think Jackrabbit's really kind of disturbing.
It disturbs me.
Do you think it's like a mating call?
It's what it seems like.
It seems like you keep cocking.
What's the guy's name, the British National Geographic?
You know, the guy, the famous.
Richard and Ashcroft.
How do you two producers don't know that?
And what's?
Ash, no.
Fuck, he's British.
What's his first name? Do you know?
Richard, do National Geographic British guy.
Richard Attenborough. That's it.
Richard Attenborough, come on, who pulls through in the clutch?
Dementia mama pumps does.
That's right.
Okay, so a picture, like, it's so perfect that if Richard Attenborough was like,
this is what we call the Jackrabbit exercise.
But it does sound, I mean, and he does this like, he's like in a side plank and his arms
up and he just, I mean, it's like, it's double time.
One and two and three and four and five and six and seven and eight.
it really is. I tried to do it and I was like it's really kind of hard. I tried to do it at home. I didn't try to do it at the gym. But I was just like, what is there to that? I was bored and the dogs were just staring at me like, oh my God. It was, I tell you what, though, I've got to quit talking about people on the podcast. That you see every day. That then I'm going to run into because if he comes out to me and he's like, hey, are you talking about me at the gym? I'm like, what are you talking about? Do you call me the jackrabbit? No, it's not you. It's the other jack rabbit.
which there is no other one because his exercising is so insane. We all talk about it.
How about the lack of self-awareness if the jackrabbits looking around the gym wondering who
the jack rabbit is? Yeah. All right, Kylie. Do we have any, what are people saying about us on the
worldwide web? Any responses from the jack rabbit? No, not from the jack rabbit yet. I will keep an eye out.
I'm such a moron. I'll tell them to personally. Next time I do that shit, you're going to have to cut it out,
edit it out.
We do it a lot.
I know it's really bad.
All right.
Okay.
This is, I went to Spotify and took a look at the comments on there.
And Lioness Arsaid says petition to get Jen's research into medical journals so people stop stealing her findings.
I agree.
I think that's a great idea.
It's unbelievable the amount of hypotheses we've had on this show.
And then the science, a year later, we're on the.
World Wide Web and then somebody's launched a study. And so in our spare time, we can,
we'll start a medical journal that we keep internally here, like the permanent record.
I think we're good. I kind of want to start our own. Kylie and I were talking about we need to
start our own DNC because the DNC sucks. They won't release the autopsy. And we need to start
our own Congress. Like Congress is doing a bill to
condemn Hassan Piker. And I would like to do a bill to condemn Erica Kirk. And so since Congress is
useless and worthless, they can just do that. So I want to just be like, hear ye, hear ye. And then I
read the bill and then everybody votes. And we can we can go down to a park in New York City and have
them vote on it. And then we just say, okay, we have an article here that we've all voted on and we've
all condemned Erica Kirk. And I just want to say this. Here's just something that I want to say.
I want to say that it's interesting to me that Trump talks incessantly about insane asylums
and releasing the craziest of the crazy into America.
And there's these insane asylum, just batshit crazy people.
And then you look at his most fervent supporters.
And I think she needs to be in an insane asylum.
And I mean that sincerely.
Like put that in the medical journal.
Jennifer has diagnosed Erica Kirk as an advanced state of manic psychosis.
That is my diagnosis.
I will let the psychiatrist catch up with me.
But she needs to be in psychiatric care.
I mean, there's something severely wrong with her.
But in Maga's world, it's like we're going to, it's like a mental illness parade.
It really is.
It's insane.
The personality disorder is on parade.
It's really sad.
but it's a masterclass in why we need health care and we need to fund mental illness,
normalized mental illness, but not in this way.
Have you seen.
She's not platforming it.
Have you seen Laura Loomer this whole last week?
Laura Loomer, who's been in insane asylums, quite literally, has lost her fucking mind.
Again, worse?
Owens.
Yes.
She is like.
What's going on?
She's trying to docks her.
She's like finding arrest record.
of Candace's husband and he's an immigrant and she's posting them all online and being like,
and it's like, do you, what?
He's an immigrant?
Yeah, he's like British, I think.
Yeah, I don't think Maga counts white Europeans is immigrants.
She calls him an immigrant.
Right, and I don't think, I don't think Maga counts white people as immigrants.
They only count brown people.
Right.
She posted this like mugshot and he got like some stupid arrest a while back.
And she was like, Candice, good luck explaining this one.
I mean, she's...
Did Candice respond?
Yeah, I can't...
You want me to look some of this up?
Yeah, they're going back and forth on the day.
They're going nuts.
I mean, okay, so, all right.
So to recap, Candice's husband is a white European immigrant.
And, God, these people are fantastically crazy.
And he gets all licked up and gets a DUI.
And Laura Lunders...
I don't think it was as serious as the DUI.
Oh.
No, it's like some small thing.
Bender, Bender?
God, I mean, she's going off. Candice Owen, this was like today. At Real Candice O'
loves to present her marriage with George Farmer as a traditional fairy tale romance, but the actual
reality of their sudden engagement is completely insane and inhumane. Inhumane.
How's that happened? What's inhumane about it? Right around the holidays in 2018,
Candice explicitly told me about how she was happily living in Philadelphia condo with her cat
and a loyal boyfriend of seven years Ryan.
Yet right around the exact same time,
she completely blindsided Ryan
and abruptly got engaged to Farmer
when she met him at a TPUSA event
in the UK with Charlie Kirk.
Fucking turning point.
Everything comes back.
It takes a truly soulless grifter
to string a man along for almost a decade,
heartlessly abandoned him for a rich guy.
She knew for 14 days
and then lie to the public
to manufacture a conservative love story
so she can come across as a trad Catholic.
It goes on and on and on.
Wait, I think I read and Ryan, Kylie, let me know.
I read on the internet that Laura Lumer is accused of performing oral sex on Trump.
Yes.
That she's been sucking him off.
Yeah.
Which, my God, don't you know, Melania has just gratitude out the wazoo for the service she's providing.
Yeah.
She said, stick around.
Has Candace mentioned that?
Yes, it was something in a lawsuit.
There was going back and forth.
It just got dismissed.
But Laura Lumer, like, brags about giving Trump a blowjob, which I'm like, that would be my, nobody would know that ever.
I would deny that until they laid me in the ground.
I also just, I miss.
Wait, hang on.
Would you rather?
Ted Cruz or Donald Trump, blowjob?
From soft to completion to ejaculation to swallow.
You have to pick Donald Trump or Ted Cruz pumps.
Pick one.
Okay.
A couple of questions before I answer.
Okay.
I'm happy to answer.
I would think that with Trump's ankles, I think he cannot, he does not have enough blood flow to get a hard dick.
So I think it would go on forever and ever so you could never, I mean, you.
So you're second Ted.
whatever.
Your second 10.
That would have to be Ted.
You know, we haven't done a good fuck Mary kill in a long time, Kylie.
We don't do that.
We do.
Those are so fun.
Kylie, what did you find?
I was just, I messed up and I didn't read the best part of this tweet.
This is how Laura closes out her Candice tweet.
Let's be clear.
There is nothing pure, Christ-like, or Catholic about Candace Owens.
She's basically, she's basically a female Jim Jones.
Like Jones, she will lead all her followers to their own demise.
when they drink too much of her poisoned Kool-Aid.
Oh, that's so good.
So, God.
The insane asylum is rampant.
It's open.
It's open.
Laura and Erica could part next to each other in the lot.
Were they ever friends?
It sounds like it because she says she told me.
You know what's so, you know what's so funny about the whole MAGA movement?
Like they come together at first because it's like, oh, yeah, we get to hate on people together.
And it never occurs to any of them.
oh, if this person is capable of hating on all these people, I too can be the target.
Like when I have a friend that's a super big gossip and always talking shit on their friends,
I'm like, well, I know when I'm not around, they're talking shit on me.
So I always kind of Heisman arm length.
I'll still be friendly, but I'm like, oh, it's probably not that great of a friend to have.
That never occurs to them.
And so now I love it that they're all targeting each other.
It's delicious.
I want to point out, like this Ashley St. Clair, the baby mama of Elon Musk or whatever,
all of these, I mean, I know I'm slow to the party. I get that. I just realized that all her tell
all on MAGA videos are get ready with Mase. So she does it while she's putting on. I'm just like,
what is she doing? And then I've had it with Get Ready with Mies. I'm just so sick of it.
No, here's what they do, Pops. It's like somebody, and they do it on the left and on the right, in all fairness.
I see liberal progressive influences that are talking about something very serious. And I'm like,
Hi, guys. You know what? Today, the Supreme Court has gutted voting rights. And I just think this is
disgraceful. And this is such an attack on the black community. I'm just like, stop putting on your
fucking makeup while you're talking about something serious. But I don't know what that thing is.
I don't know what I don't understand it. I'm tired of seeing people put on their makeup.
It's not that unique. It's not that great to watch. Stop now. Stop putting up your on your makeup online.
Stop it.
Agree.
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All right, the next review we've got here is from Cecil.
She writes, hi there, new listener here in Better Forward, I think.
I just want to say, I don't think I realize how hijacked the concept of patriotism.
was for me until I listened to you to. There was no definition of patriot that I felt could belong
to me. And now I'm reconsidering my relationship with the word, just hearing the way you use it.
That's really interesting to think about. So thank you for that.
I too have struggled with patriotism as a word. Like I kind of get the jeeps when I go to a sporting
event and I do the national. I mean, I just don't. It's been hijacked so much that I, it's hard for me to
embrace it, really.
Like, I would not buy anything red, white, and blue.
Even for Fourth of July, I wouldn't.
You know, Joshua, she hates patriotism.
He hates it.
He cannot fucking stand it.
Because living in Oklahoma, so many people, their identity is being a patriot.
And, oh, I support the troops.
I support the troops.
I support freedom.
And it's such bullshit because Republican policies abandon the troops.
Republicans are demeaning to the mental health needs and the physical needs that the troops have after they sent them.
There have no problem funding the bombs to make the military industrial complex billions upon billions of dollars, but they don't take care of the soldier.
And so Josh, one year we went to my friend Liz.
She's a member of some, it's in Oklahoma, rural Oklahoma, and it's like a neighborhood and there's a river.
and it's like a Illinois River, yeah, River Club or something, right?
So she invites Josh and me to go to this river club with her.
And as we're, before we go, she's like, now the first night we go, Jennifer, it's going to be a white party.
And I got, Liz, that doesn't sound good.
We're going to a white party in rural Oklahoma.
That sounds a little KKK for my taste.
She's like, oh, please, come on.
And she's like, make sure you bring white clothes.
And it's like, okay, okay.
we walk up to the white party and this woman puts out a cookie tray to me and it is a fucking black penis cookie.
And I look at the cookie and I look up at Liz and I am like, are you kidding me?
I told you this shit was a bad idea.
White people having a white party in rural Oklahoma is not get their black cock cookies right here.
And Liz is like crying, laughing.
She can't speak.
Well, what the deal was was they were in.
initiating a new president to the river club, okay, to this redneck river club. And all the people,
they're really lovely. No disrespect to the river people. Y'all were great river hosts and hostesses.
But I said, what's the deal? Why are you serving black cock cookies? They said, well, we're
swearing in a new president, and these are a gavel. And I'll get the image for you all to put up on
here. And so they're serving these. And I knew it was a bad idea for white people to have a white
party in rural Oklahoma at a river. I called it. I was ahead of the curve on this. I walk up and the
first thing somebody offers me is a black cock cookie. Un-fucking believable, right? So of course,
I take a picture with it. And let me find it for Kyle. Here we go. Here's my friend Liz and me.
Let me text this to Kylie so she can put it up on screen. Anyway, so we have a wonderful time at the
River. It's Fourth of July weekend, or maybe it was Memorial Weekend, I don't know, some
weekend that causes people to feel patriotic. So we go to this dining area at the River Club.
It's very informal, not fancy, but very good food, very nice, but like picnic tables, right?
And everybody gets their food and then everybody stands up and the new president has a speech.
And then he says, let's everybody sing God bless America. And I look over to Josh. Josh fucking
hates patriotism because he thinks the people that scream about patriotism the most are the biggest
fucking hypocrites on the planet. And I can't argue with that.
Josh, when we go to Thunder Games during the national anthem, he says, I'm going to go to the
restroom because he can't, he can't stomach it. It makes him infuriates him to see that many
Republican voters fake supporting the troops because it's total fake support of the troop.
So I look over at Josh when they announced that we all have to sing God bless America together.
And Josh goes, all right, here we go.
Let's go.
And then we all start in, God bless.
I don't know any of the words of that from that.
And I mean, I'm looking at Josh through the whole thing.
And I know he is just dying because he got really mad about Colin Kaepernick, the way Colin Kaepernick was treated.
And he was trying to use his, you know, his position to draw attention to the policing disparities for the black community, which Josh
as a criminal defense lawyer and he sees it every single day up close and personally the disparity
and the apartheid policing system and justice system. But no, Blackcocks, White Party,
rural Oklahoma. There it is. Kylie, can you zoom in on that too so that they can just see.
There's at Liz. Look at Liz. It's like, oh, shit. So you see, we all showed up to the,
this is the first thing. I'm at the party for two seconds. And somebody comes up to me with a tray of
black cock cookies. To the river people, I love you. I know that you didn't mean to serve black
cock cookies, but there is. Tell me, that is a cock. I think it says like, congratulations,
Greg, or whoever the new president is. They put it on the ball sack. Yeah. It looks just like it.
But I knew it. I knew it. I told Liz, there's no way a white party in rural Oklahoma with all white people.
there's something bad is going to happen and sure enough they're serving black cock cookies
let me just talk about this the baker that made them I mean do I'd like to dive into the
psychology there I mean is this a person that needs to get laid is this a person's like you know I
should have tap some chocolate at some point in my life you know like it's just it's it's such a
penis yeah if I were making him I would say needs to get laid and that I would have taken
great care in telling people they were gavels. And in my mind, like my own secret joke that it was
a penis. I would have thought I was hilarious. It objectively looks like a penis, not a gavel.
Wouldn't you say, Ryan, Kylie? What do you, what do you?
Definitely. I definitely see a penis. You don't see a gavel at all, right? It's a penis.
As a gay man, I feel like that's a good endorsement. I agree. I mean, I and I ate it. I ate a
black cock cookie. What's direction did you mean? I ate it. I started at the tip. Yeah.
ended with the balls. Did you eat it in one? Did you put the whole thing in your mouth? Or did you bite?
No, I did probably three bites total, maybe four. I did, started at the tip, then the stem, then one ball, then the other ball.
Did you use both hands? I think I used one. I was a single, a single hand, single handed.
And was it good? Did it taste it? It was delicious. It was delicious.
All right. Was it salty? Sweet.
It was sweet.
Sweet. We should be canceled.
Yeah. We will be.
I'm going to say this evolved and it's not even me this time.
We should be canceled.
Kylie, do we have any more reviews?
No. Do you want to do some news stories?
Okay, yeah. I have a new story here.
Story number one for the class.
A straight, I'm sorry, I started here.
Story number one for the class, straight gen Z men are now appropriating gay culture.
Popular looks maxing influencers are now important.
embracing a new trend. Pop this up. Manosphere influencers are twink maxing and proud of it.
So looks maxing pumps is optimizing your physical appearance to the highest potential, including
skin care, hair care, fitness, grooming, posture, dental work. Ranges from soft maxing,
which are easy habits to more extreme measures like cosmetic surgery.
And this has been popularized on TikTok and forums like Reddit.
And it can be positive self-improvement tip or obsessively dysmorphic territory.
So that's look, looks maxing pumps.
You follow me?
Yeah, I didn't think you had.
So now we're going to segue over to twinks maxing.
All right.
And you know what a twink is, pumps, right?
Yes.
would you define it for the listener?
It's a gay man that's petite and is in the female role, right?
Is that right?
Yeah, ish.
Ish, pretty good, pubs.
Ryan, does that pass this?
Ish?
That's pretty good.
Yeah, okay.
Twink's maxing is optimizing for the twink aesthetic.
Slim, lean, youthful, boyish look.
The common goals of twink.
Twink's maxing are low body fat, clear skin, slim face, defined, but not bulky physique.
Focuses on staying lean, no low calorie, cardio heavy, skin care, and grooming.
Dylan Latham, one of the popular online looksmaxers is embracing twinks maxing.
Let's pop this up.
I also just want to say that to kind of describe Josh.
The whole time I've seen here.
All of it.
The looks maxing plus the twinks maxing.
I'm like, this is chart.
Listen to this.
I just had Anna text Josh to get his TSA number because we're flying, we're going on a trip together to get his TSA number and his American airline number.
And he sent it.
And then he sent his body fat to her as well.
My TSA number is this.
My A.A.
A. Advantage number is this.
My body fat is 4%.
You guys, we just got this.
Body fat 4%.
Okay.
All right. Just a quick pause in our regularly scheduled programming about twinks maxing to update you on Josh's body fat.
So when he's in town and we're at the gym together and I'm not working out together with him, immediately after the workout, he's like, Emily, do we have time to go measure my body fat? He's obsessed with it, right?
And when he was in town, we hosted this glad party. And we went to the host of the party is a guy.
named Maddie. And he is like the Peloton Queen Bee instructor on the planet.
Maddie, this party, this glad party that we co-hosted, it was at Maddie's apartment.
Maddie is a fitness instructor. He is built like a goddamn fucking six-pack. I mean, just a tall,
gorgeous Madonna. Totally. So we're at his house. And Josh goes up to him. And he's, I'm like,
Josh Maddie, Maddie, Josh.
And then Josh says, Maddie, what's your body fat?
No, he doesn't.
He absolutely does.
And Maddie says, I don't know it.
And I go, yeah, Josh, most of these people don't psychotically check their body fat.
And then Josh says to Maddie, what do you do?
Not knowing that Maddie is like a famous fitness instructor because he has no fucking
clue because he's always in the Josh Weld show, right?
Right.
So Maddie's like, well, I work out.
He goes like, do you work out?
He goes, all the time.
All day, every day.
I'm like, Josh, he's a Peloton instructor and a trainer.
Stop it.
He's like, so you don't know your body fat?
So we go to with Emily and he gets his body fat taking.
This is after the glad party.
And it's dropped some.
So he gets on Chad GPT.
And he is so antagonistic with AI.
He's so fucking antagonistic.
He goes back and forth between like, chat GPT is lying to me,
Claude's lying to me and he goes back and forth between ChatGPT and Claude, right?
We're in the car in New York and he has basically got Chat GPD.
And mind you, this is a unhinged hypochondriac.
Chat GPT is saying to him, if you or someone you know is struggling with 4% body fat,
you should immediately probably take them to the hospital.
I'm in the car going, if you are someone you know, God damn it, AI, God damn it, I have to fucking live with
You know?
And so then I'm like, Josh, you need to go get the people that do the pinch.
You don't have 4% body fat.
You need to get people that do the pinch because you've got some kind of like love handle
situation right here.
Why would you?
I know.
I was being a cunt.
Okay.
I felt like it being a casual cunt, all right?
Yeah.
I'd own it.
I'd own it.
Shortcoming.
So I'm on Instagram and Maddie has posted a picture.
The aforementioned Peloton Fitness Instructory has posted a picture of himself in his closet.
topless and just like a total Adonis. Like he's Italian, you know, and then he has like pecks and the six
pack. And I go, see, Josh, you're, because he claimed in the car, my body fat's lower than Maddie's,
I guarantee it. And I'm like, there's no fucking way your body fat is lower than that he's.
So I showed Josh the picture of Maddie that Maddie had posted on his story. I said, Josh,
look, there's no way your body fat is lower than this man's right here. And he goes, DM him right now and ask him.
So I DM Maddie.
And this will be the second time Josh has asked Maddie what his body fat is.
And so I'm like, Josh wants to know where your body fat is.
And Maddie just responds, ha, ha, he's obsessed with me.
Not wrong.
So anyway, sorry, sorry.
That was a bad way to get off.
But I just thought that.
Yeah, follow up.
Okay, here's the deal.
So Josh asked him what his body fat was before he knew he was a Peloton instructor.
Like he could have been an executive at.
Yeah. Golden Sacks.
It gets worse from there.
It gets worse from there.
When we were working out, we were on our own.
We didn't have a trainer and we were waiting on this machine, the glute abduction machine.
Oh, yeah.
And we're waiting on.
And this guy's on there and he is as fit as a fiddle.
I'm talking B, UFF, exclamation point, gay man, hot.
You know, just gay men or just to me, their fitness regimen just hits harder.
The hygiene and all of it.
collectively, it's like, okay, this is a very well-kept man. So Josh says to him as he finishes
the machine and we're kind of waiting. He goes, hey, you look great. What's your body fat?
Yeah. Ah. Yes. He never meant to ask him his name. Ask him what his body fat was. And the guy goes,
the guy goes, I don't know. I don't want to know. I just know, you know, when I look good or when I
don't. Meanwhile, Psycho, Josh goes down to the body fat machine like every single day.
Is there, I see, I don't, when you said go get the pinch body fat, I didn't know you could do a body fat other than the pinch.
So this one at our gym, you get on it.
And you take your shoes off.
And it's like a scale.
And then you put your hands on these like sensors.
Oh, okay.
And it does some sort of calculation.
So I was talking to Josh last night and it just, it doesn't end.
We're FaceTiming.
And he's like, yeah, I was just on Claude trying to find out what type of body fat machine I can
order. It's a home version. So you can do it. Yeah, he's just randomly asking random people,
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Okay. The looks maxing and twink's max.
is 100% like reminiscent of Josh.
Okay, so Dylan Latham on twink maxing.
Here he is.
Here's an excerpt from him.
Responding to the host's follow-up questions about whether he became a twink intentionally
or by accident, Latham added, I naturally am a bit more skinny.
I naturally act a bit more feminine.
I'm a fucking metrosexual.
and they're also embracing being called gay.
Let's play the clip.
I just think it's really funny that gay is used as an insult
because I am not insulted by it whatsoever
because it's like the only insults that work
are ones that have validity to them.
So if you made fun of my blue hair,
I literally couldn't even comprehend being offended
because I don't have blue hair.
So I don't understand the idea of using that as an insult.
It really doesn't make sense.
And I think I literally take it as a compliment.
the gay dating market is a lot more competitive.
So the average person when they say you look gay means that they're saying you look better than average.
Okay.
So Ryan proposes the question.
Could straight male narcissism be the tool we didn't know we needed to fight homophobia?
Because here's the thing.
I was just talking about all these hot gay men at my gym.
And it just hits different.
And the dating market is more competitive.
And they are way more pulled together.
They're dressed better.
They work out harder.
The grooming is better.
Everything about a gay man is better.
So now are straight men looking to gay men saying hashtag goals.
And will that help us with homophobia?
Well, first of all, I think straight men should strive for that.
I do too.
I mean, I think it's goals for sure.
I mean, I want to strive to be as put together as a gay man.
And I'm falling woefully short.
But here's the thing, you look at all these manospheres.
And I'll just take a couple of examples, like a Joe Rogan, super tiny, short, short, short, but really muscular.
So that whole look, the tiny but super muscular is an immediate red flag for me.
So if I was like a male on the dating circuit, I would want to be lean and fit and well-groomed and smell my eyes and, you know, have nice clothes and all that.
I would think that would be way, I mean, as a female, I am not attracted to the super muscle weight because I think it just sends the whole WWE message.
Well, and I also think, and I know you probably think this too.
Like Joe Rogan, I immediately think steroids.
And then we know from the science what steroids do to penises.
And so then it's just an immediate, yeah.
You think shrinkage, you think soft serve, you think, you know, problems, you know, with, with, right.
with erections, et cetera.
And so, and yeah, the shrinkage and all of that.
So you think, okay, so this guy wanted these big muscles but was willing to sacrifice his
penis for that, which is an interesting, which is an interesting thing for men because
they're so penis-centric.
They're so cock-centric, right?
So it's an interesting gamble to want larger muscles at the expense of your dick.
Yeah, okay, but here's the thing, though.
I think that these people are so obsessed with their looks because I dated somebody that did steroids.
And the penis shrinkage, it comes on gradually.
So here's what I think happens.
I think they think, I've got these great big muscles.
I look so good.
And then the shrinkage happens over time.
It's not just like an immediate.
So there for a while, you're like, I have big muscles and a big dick.
And then it's like Royd rage and soft serve.
Let's unpack.
several things here. There's, I have just a gillian follow-up questions. We're not going to get to
collars today because we are going to deep dive into Pumps's ex-boyfriend with college. So it's
been 40 years. Let me ask you this. Is this college boyfriend that used steroids the same person
that was your fitness trainer later in life that you fucked while you were married yes or now?
Correct, yes. Oh, same person. Same person. All right. All right. So was he using the steroids in
college. Yes. Okay. And so you said that you observed a fall off in penis size?
Not in performance. Wait. You observed a fall off in performance. Yeah. I mean, just not,
you know, just what, not a stiff, you know, little, not soft serve like when I was married, not like that,
but just softer. Softer. Softer. Serve. Not.
soft serve, but just softer.
Okay.
And then that infected his performance?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Overall, yes.
Okay.
And is that what ultimately caused you to break up with him?
We all know you're a size queen.
You talk about cock size nonstop.
You know, I just kind of rain at course.
You're young.
You just kind of flitter around.
Did you at the time think, boy, these steroids sure are impacting his penis?
No.
Like, not like during sex, you mean, or like in real time.
Just in general.
Just like that way.
It's just not as good.
It's just.
Yeah.
Something's going on with his penis.
I don't think I put you in two together until later.
Okay.
And then when you hit it again at a later date, when you had the revenge affair.
Right.
On your husband.
Right.
Most of her.
Number one, I thought it was pretty.
I thought your revenge affair was pretty good that you went back to your college day school.
Instead of having to get reacquainted with it with a new penis, you were like, you know what?
I'm like a bit.
this one. So, yeah, from college to adult, full-blown adulthood. So you're banging him in
college and then you start banging him during your revenge affair, which I completely supported
listener, by the way. I babysit her kids while she did it. She babysit the kids. I was totally
supportive of it because her ex-husband deserved it. But during this time, the latter time,
the affair time. Okay.
was it even more falling off from the, you know, you're talking a couple of decades later here,
from the sustained steroid use?
Because I remember at the time, you feeling like it was pretty good.
Yeah, no, it was good.
But I also wanted to do it before I went to marriage counseling.
So, I mean, I wasn't exactly in the best frame of mind.
I mean, I would go into marriage counseling with the FFG.
Like, I would set it up.
If the counseling was at 10.30 in the morning, I would set the second.
up with the at 9.30, he's fucked up. I mean, that's just not normal.
No. Crazy as shit like that. So I'm not in the best position to judge, but I don't,
I think the sex was good in adult. I don't think there were any problems later on.
Okay. And do you think that the steroid use was sustained during all of this time, or do you think
maybe he? No, I don't think so. Because it really makes you pretty like, her. I mean, after a while,
you kind of get crazy a little bit.
And how do you know this?
You observed this?
Yeah.
I mean, just angrier, quicker to anger, reactions were more intense.
You know, it was pretty obvious probably after like six months.
Doesn't it cause a bunch of agony?
I didn't notice that.
But I definitely noticed a change in personality.
I think this is far better for the straight man.
They need to get off the steroids and look to the gay men.
for inspiration, for hygiene, fashion, fitness.
Because gay men, I will say, you rarely see like a bulky, too big gay man.
Like they are fit and they can have some bulk to them, but it's a lean, attractive bulk.
I don't like a huge Arnold Schwarzenegger.
It's just not attractive at all.
No, it's not.
In fact, there's this guy.
Okay, so speaking of this, so there's this guy at my gym, he's a trainer.
And he is so attractive.
Have you had sex with him?
He smells.
No, I wish.
He smells great.
And so this whole time that I've been going to this gym, I thought he was gay.
And so I asked my trainer, should I go, is he, because I was going to take one of his classes.
And I was like, it's he gay.
She's like, no, he just got married.
And I was like, to a woman, she was like, yeah.
And I go, I'm so shocked because he has everything together.
Great body, great outfits, great smell, great look, very poll.
You just don't find a straight man that hits all those cylinders very often.
Did you not ask any follow-up questions after that, or you just said that and that was the end of the conversation?
No, we were just talking about how good he smells and his workout steps.
Here's the error.
Here's the error you made.
You're in the Bible Belt.
And if I had been in your, if I had been there, I would have immediately pulled up with follow-up questions and said, is he religious?
And if she would have said, oh, yes, he's very.
religious and he goes to the mega church and he's up there and he's the worship leader,
whatever they call it. We're going to worship practice, praise practice, and he's the praise
practice coach. You immediately know he's as gay as all get out. So in the Bible Belt,
when you see a man that is overtly metrosexual, you have to follow up with questions
about their religious beliefs because oftentimes they're in hiding.
He could still very much be gay.
I'm just saying.
I'm going to follow up tomorrow.
You need to follow up.
If he goes to a megachurch, if he goes to a megachurch, I'm telling you G-A-Y, exclamation point, neon sign.
Don't you think right?
It's just, it's just now I am, I'm married to a metrosexual.
Right.
I oh my God in New York there's every straight man up here is metrosexual it's challenged my
it's challenged my gay door a lot yeah it's still excellent it's still really really good really good
but it's challenged it a bit because in Oklahoma it was super easy because yeah super obvious
but I do I do think you need to follow up and report back with us because I I support
lifting up gay men and their embrace of fashion, hygiene, fitness, diet, all of the stuff that they do.
I support straight men looking to that as hashtag inspo.
I just think it's great.
I think it's absolutely fantastic, and I support it completely.
And I think that might be all we have.
We've gone down some crazy shit today.
Yeah, we have.
We absolutely have.
Kylie, do you have anything you would like to add before we go off?
I think that that's all I can think of.
I think we covered things I didn't imagine talking about today.
I'm just glad that we're highlighting something that is a real problem in the world, not just the United States.
The girls night out, your friends with a lesbian couple, how do you tiptoe into that without creating a massive situation?
And resentment.
Like if you said no spouses and the girl thought you were, like the wife thought you were friends.
Like if Kylie's my friend and I don't invite on it, but Anna thought we were friends, then it creates resentment.
So yeah, that's a minefield.
I just can't imagine who wouldn't want Kylie and on it.
Yeah, luckily for us.
Perfect pairing.
We don't have to worry about this problem.
Yeah, but you know, what if we want to go separately?
Here's the thing, though.
Here's the thing.
It's not that you don't want honor.
It's sometimes you want a night where nobody is with their significant other.
I agree.
And lesbians, at least the ones that I know, have a real tendency for PDA.
They cannot help themselves.
there is a lot of lesbian PDA, which I support, and I really don't support PDA.
But because they're lesbians, I make a caveat for that.
But you go out to this dinner or bar or whatever it is.
And then you've got a couple of lesies over there, holding hands, arms around each other,
Shug, babe, honey.
And you're like, we kind of wanted to go out to not hear all of that tonight.
Right.
I just think it's something that we need to talk about.
And I would like to let the illustriates in this cult to comment about this in the comment section
because I like to highlight hashtag lesbian issues.
Yeah.
And not enough people are doing that.
No.
Is any other podcasts doing this?
No.
Do you think anybody else is talking about this?
I think this is probably the most lesbian podcast on the internet.
I agree.
America's top DEI podcast.
America's top lesbian podcast.
America's top, let me check notes,
twinks maxing contest.
Twink's maxing.
I would definitely be in on that, a contest.
You know, pumps kind of butch maxes.
I do.
You got a kind of butch max.
I'm a butch.
Softball, I mean, the whole nine.
Yeah.
The softball shit's wild.
I was ahead of my time.
You were.
The softball shit's wild.
Love it.
Yeah, she loves it.
Didn't you go down to like some hotel and like cheer them on?
Like they walk through and you're like, way to go, Josie.
Yeah.
Way to go.
And you call them all by their first names.
Absolutely.
We're friends.
Yeah.
It's so gay.
Got my picture right with a couple.
Yeah.
I love it.
I love it.
I think it's great homes.
I love your lesbian advocacy, sports advocacy.
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