I've Had It - Venmo for Jesus with Laci Mosley
Episode Date: June 27, 2023Listen up, listeners!! We're taking this show on the road. The Hot Shit Tour is heading to Atlanta, Philly and D.C in August - more info & tickets available at linktr.ee/ivehaditpodcast Jennifer ...and Pumps are joined by the Scam Goddess, Laci Mosley, today to discuss a few of our favorite scam artists: Hilaria Baldwin the cucumber queen, Elizabeth 'too pretty for prison' Holmes and the almighty Hillsong Church debacle. Pumps the self-proclaimed Queen of F*ck, Marry, Kill gets her skills tested by Jennifer and Laci talks about her experience growing up in the suburbs. Thank you to our sponsors: Quince: Shop with Quince today and discover the affordable luxury you deserve. Go to quince.com/hadit to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. Lume: Visit Lumedeodorant.com to get $5 OFF a Lume Starter Pack using code: HADIT. That equates to 40% off your Starter Pack. Athletic Greens: Athletic Greens is giving you a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D and 5 free travel packs with your first purchase. Go to athleticgreens.com/HADIT Article: Visit ARTICLE.COM/HADIT for $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more. Subscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IveHadItPodcast Follow Us: I've Had It Podcast: @Ivehaditpodcast Jennifer Welch: @mizzwelch Angie "Pumps" Sullivan: @pumpspumpspumps Special Guest: Laci Mosley: @divalaci @scamgoddesspod
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So we're supposed to start the podcast.
Ready?
One, two, three.
I'm just getting so good at that.
The clap on is just, I mean, we're hidden our stride with that.
We are.
It's just better every time.
Every single time listener that the clap on of this podcast
is peaking. It's at its peak. That's not good for the future trajectory of the pod.
That's not good at all. Pumps, what have you had it with?
Okay, what I've had it with is a bad house guest. And let me tell you why. So as you know,
people in Oklahoma for the weekends, they go to the lake.
So when you're at the lake, you're not close to towns, generally speaking.
Like a grocery store, you typically buy your stuff before you leave.
So at the lake, one of my dearest friends hosted about 20 people for the weekend.
Okay. And that's probably her first mistake. Right. Right out of the
gate to host 20 people, what could possibly go wrong with this fucking amazing species of ours?
Right. But go on. Right. You make a great point. Go on. So she has done all the shopping for all
the meals that are going to be made, being hostess with the most is. Okay. She had two guests that were vegetarian and gluten free that did not bring their own
food. So she had to scour the planet for vegetarian and gluten free options in a lake town in Oklahoma. How old are these?
These are adults, like 20s, early 20s, early 20s.
Early 20s.
Okay, that's putting the camera lens into focus.
If this is a 40-year-old, I've got a huge problem,
but early 20s still peak narcissism.
But I just can't wrap my head around it.
Like, are you seriously going to have the host go out
and buy more food because you can't bring your own food?
Like your food issues are your problem.
They're not my problem.
They're not anybody else's problems.
If you are wanna be vegetarian and gluten free,
good for you, but don't burden somebody else with that.
I was just shocked that that happened.
I'm shocked that you're shocked. I know, I guess I shouldn't be, but I was just like,
what? I want to have her. Have you been on the internet lately?
Have you seen all of the fucking, you know, I'm gluten free.
I'm vegan. I'm vegetarian. I mean, it is a fucking battle cry now. I mean,
you can't go to one, you can't go through 30 seconds of being on the internet without hearing about somebody's dietary restrictions.
And it's like they're flexing, but let me ask you this. Did these, any of these guests have a celiac disease?
I do not know the answer to that, but I'm guessing for sure they didn't. Well then why the fuck was she scrambling around
trying to find them something?
I would have been like, well this is what I'm serving.
Yes, that's exactly what I told her.
Tough titties.
If you don't like it and you can't eat it,
suck a bag of dicks.
It's not my fault.
Tough titties.
We're not.
Tough titties.
And it's so self as she sees that she's hosted 20 people.
Right.
And she's, but then your friend goes out and tries to enable.
Yes.
These, yeah, see, I can't.
I mean, first of all, I'd never invite 20 people
to stay overnight with me.
Ever.
So kind of, I put everything at that on her.
You know what I mean?
The fuckery with the gluten free and the fuckery with the vegans.
That's just her problem that she invited 20 people for an overnight stay, especially early
20 something.
Right.
I think it's anybody's problem but hers.
But she felt like she was a bad hostess if she didn't move heaven and earth to go get gluten-free slash vegan items in Podunk America,
Oklahoma. That's probably not even heard of gluten-free if I were guessing.
Well, I am just, I just have a hard time relating to anything in the story
because number one, I like gluten. Right. Number two, I eat meat.
If you're vegetarian and you're gluten-free,
good for you, quit fucking talking about your diet.
Right.
Number three, I would never invite 20,
20 something year olds.
I would instead say, here are the keys to the lake house
to my 20 year old, it's your fucking problem.
Right.
Doesn't surprise me that to narcissistic 21,
22 year old girls whose mother's done everything
for them in their entire life,
transfers that kind of caretaking
to whomever's around them.
Yeah.
I mean, nobody's ever checked these girls,
including your friend that hosted them.
She never checked them.
Right.
And said, listen up, I'm not doing that.
I've got meals for 20 people here. This is what I'm serving. Here's my car keys. You can go
the grocery store and find something or nobody's checked them, including your friend.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, you're not, you're not wrong. It takes, for sure. It takes a village.
And the problem is everybody enabling these selfish monsters. So I'm saying all right. All right. Mike drop. So you've done a lot of bragging
about fuck Mary Kill. Yes. And we have deprived our listener of pubs who claims to be the queen.
I'm so good at it. A fuck Mary Kill. So I have three different sets for you. I'm so excited.
I'd love to play this game.
Okay. All right.
The first one.
Okay.
Barack Obama.
Okay.
Tom Brady.
Brad Pitt.
Gosh, that's like Sophie's choice.
They're all just fantastic.
Okay. So I think that I'm absolutely marrying Barack, of course.
Okay.
I'm fucking Brad Pitt because he's hotter than shit.
And I'm gonna kill Tom Brady
because he's pretty boring when I've seen him
in interviews like he wouldn't make me laugh.
I'm like he's a pretty face.
I like that he's tall.
But now I'd have to kill him.
Yeah. Okay.
All right, the next round.
Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Okay.
Timothy Olafant.
Ah, my favorite.
George Clooney.
Oh my gosh, this is so hard.
Because they're all, I mean, you can't go wrong
with any of them.
You said you're the queen of this.
I know, okay, so here's what I'm gonna do.
God, I love Timothy Olafant so much.
Okay. I'm gonna marry him. Okay. Because I love Timothy all of the font so much. Okay.
I'm gonna marry him.
Okay.
Because I love him.
Okay.
And then I guess I'm gonna have to fuck George Clooney
and then Neil deGrasse Tyson, who I love,
and he's so funny, but I guess I have to kill him.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Um, fuck Mary Kill. Elon Musk. Yes. But I guess I have to kill him. All right, okay, all right.
Fuck Mary Kill, Elon Musk, Ted Cruz, Donald Trump.
Oh my God, I have to marry one of those. You said you're really good at this.
I'm waiting to die laughing like I did with Jared Fried.
So let's go.
You said you were the queen.
You fainted yourself so good at this.
I am good at it.
I thought my last two I did so good on.
Oh my God.
Like I don't know who I would kill.
That's the hardest one.
Okay, who was the first one again?
Elon Musk.
Okay, I guess what I'll do is because I know Elon Musk,
he runs around and has babies with all these people,
but then he's never around.
So I'll legally marry him just because I think
he wouldn't be around.
And he's rich.
And he's rich.
Right, you could have a PJ.
I could have a PJ.
Spaceship.
Right, whatever.
Hope he, I would marry Elon hoping he blew up in a spaceship.
So I could just get all the money.
He could be gone.
Who you fucking, Lion Ted or Donald?
Oh my God.
You got a fuck, Ted Cruz or Donald Trump.
Queen of fuck Mary Kale, come on.
Ah!
Okay.
I'm just gonna say, okay, I would,
I would fuck Ted Cruz.
Oh.
I mean, oh, I mean, I'm like throwing up in my mouth.
You're fucking Ted.
I'm fucking Ted.
I'm fucking Ted.
That fat fuck.
Oh.
But at least he's smart a little bit
I mean because it's obvious Trump's just dumber than a box of hot rocks
I could say he's pretty funny. I mean he's funnier, but he believes it. You're fucking Ted
I'm fucking Ted and obviously I'm killing Donald
Which I don't know I just can't fuck Donald Trump as As bad as Ted is, I just can't.
Yeah, and I think it would be better for civilization,
for you to kill Trump.
Absolutely.
Ted is never gonna get elected to anything
other than Senator of Texas.
Right.
Even though Republicans hate him.
Right.
Everybody universally hates the guy that you've signed up to fuck.
That's the fuck.
Everybody hates your fuck buddy.
Yeah. Ted Cruz, including his friends, his neighbors, his friends, entire
countries, his own political party. Everybody hates your little fuck buddy.
Yeah. Ted Cruz.
I didn't, you didn't say I had to like it.
All right. Welcome to I've had it.
I'm Jennifer. I'm Jennifer.
I'm Angie.
Right now we're gonna check in with Kylie
for a little social media update.
Kylie, what's going on in the social media world?
There's a lot going on.
Ooh.
I think I'm gonna spread a little bit of positivity
right off the bat.
Let's do it, because we're so positive.
You are.
So Michael commented on YouTube and said,
Argotis of kindness, Jessica.
Oh, Jessica's so kind.
Always looks so classy in her yacht captain slash part-time librarian attire, sitting next
to pumps in her ho-ish excuse for an outfit. Hahaha. Hahaha.
By the way, YouTube, I love that you say that I wear yacht captain attire and I'm going
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I love a blazer.
I love a blazer with gold buttons.
You can call me Julie from the love boat for those of you that are young that don't know.
Just go ahead and YouTube that in because she was like the hospitality chair of the Lebo, wasn't she? The Gander social director. Social director.
But you have totally bought into the yacht captain because we were talking about a deal we have
next week. And you're like, I'm going to go full yacht captain. Oh, I'm going full yacht captain.
Yeah. Love it. All of my power suits have gold buttons now. Josh and I always say,
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Pumps are you going full hoe? I don't know what I did to go full hoe, but I'm staying with it stay with the hoe stay with the
How I'm manifesting we oppose manifesting
Okay, Kylie who's next okay Josh commented on Instagram and says Josh Welch. It's not Josh
Well, I was gonna say he said at pumps pumps pumps a lord if I were straight and I'm going to ask you a question. Josh commented on Instagram and said, what is this?
Josh Welch.
It's not Josh Welch.
I was going to say.
He said, at pumps, pumps, pumps.
Oh, Lord.
If I were straight and much,
much older.
All caps.
I would father your children.
Oh, isn't that so nice, Josh,
that it's kind of a backhanded compliment a little bit, though,
because he talks about how old I am.
Yeah.
So, I mean, but I'll take it.
I'll take it.
That's nice.
All right, who's next?
Okay, next I'm going to read a comment from Natasha S on YouTube.
Okay.
She said, okay, I had to pause the video just to write this comment.
You were talking about prison, which got me thinking,
what would Jane and Pips be like in prison?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Jackie, 100% would be top dog.
Everyone would be her bitch.
She would definitely embrace gay for the stay,
because she gives off lesbian top vibes for sure.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
In parentheses, I mean power blazers,
and she can never sit properly in her chair,
peep the shoe on the table, very gay.
So maybe you're the one transitioning on the art.
She would also run the drug trade in there
because she's always talking about tapping veins
and injecting shit so it just makes sense.
Totally.
Now, pops would obviously be the leader
of the rival prison gang.
She doesn't need to embrace gay for the stay
because she's already a lesbian. She would be the person to help people with their parole applications.
She takes payment in the form of such it's of sweet tea. Probably smuggled up their
asses, but it doesn't bother her because she's good with a spoon in the backdoor.
Love that. But together well. Great delivery and a lesbian power top. Oh, God, I love that. Put together well. Great to be in a lesbian power top.
Oh, God, I love that.
That is hysterical.
I love how she kept calling us different names.
I do too.
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Okay, um, next up we have a guest and she is the host of scam goddess. Let's welcome to
I've had it podcast. Lacey Mosley. Okay, Lacey Mosley, the scam goddess, what is going on?
Hi, oh, it's so nice to see you guys.
I've seen your YouTube, so I feel like I know you.
So, now I can scam you.
Totally.
Totally.
So Lacey, you know, if you've seen us on YouTube,
then you know that this is a show
with like five star shit talking.
That's what's gonna go on here, Lacey. And so what we wanna know from you that this is a show with like five star shit talking.
That's what's gonna go on here, Lacey. And so what we wanna know from you
is what have you had it with?
Oh my goodness, okay.
I have had it with
rinse, landlords, everything that's like
to be a millennial.
It's never ending shit. I feel like there's nothing that was left
in good shape for us at all.
And like everyone talks about this all the time, right?
But specificity with like,
why can't I write off my rent?
Like y'all not gonna let me have a house, right?
I can ever own a home.
Like, okay, fine.
Can I at least write off my rent like I own a home?
This is my home.
You see these walls?
I've been painting.
I live in an apartment.
We paint now in the apartment.
We rest in them.
We redo the appliances because we're like,
this is it.
I'm gonna die here.
Okay.
Right.
Like, you know, some people like a really fancy place
that they live in has an elevator,
but there's like two versions of that.
Either you have an elevator
because there's several floors packed with millennials
who will never be able to own property. Or you have an elevator because there's several floors packed with millennials who will never be able to own property.
Or you have an elevator
because you've boarded all the wealth
and you own the biggest property,
so you sit down.
And so it's like,
and it boggles the mind.
Now you live in New York?
No, I live in Los Angeles,
which makes it worse, there's actually land here.
Oh.
It's so expensive.
And so you're saying the boomers and the gen Xers and we're
gen Xers. Yeah. Pumps is kind of on the on the cusp. I'm not on the cusp. Anyway, I love
the like a zodiac sign. I'm on the cusp. She's on the cusp of gen X boomer. But anyway,
you're saying that we've gobbled up all the land. Yeah. And you guys are stuck in these
apartments and you get no tax right off. And it's a total dickover.
It is.
And like, what's even more frustrating about it
is that all this, like, oh, it's not because of scarcity.
That's the issue.
It's like there's so many vacant, empty places,
but now people are buying up property
like it's freaking stock on the damn stock market.
You know, like watching the house,
like it's the Nasdaq waiting to sell.
So it's like enough Starbucks on the block.
And it's like, that is empty.
I could be in there liigurating in that home, but no.
No, because like, I was on Zillow the other day,
just because like, it's so, I'm a masochist.
It's just like, you know, look and be like,
oh, never.
Oh, never.
And I saw a house that was the ugliest piece of crap
I've ever seen in my life.
I kid you not, it was 1665 square feet.
I remember it this early.
$1.3 million.
That's unbelievable.
If you're a millennial and you're trying to live
in New York or California or some like really cool urban city,
you're so fucked.
You're so fucked.
Because real estate prices are so crazy right now.
And I can see you're stuck in the renter world.
I mean, I remember the days of renting
and you want your place, you want to nest,
you want to make it your home.
But you know what you're doing, Lacey?
You're building somebody else's wealth right now, right?
Right.
You're paying rent.
Yes.
I looked you up and read your whole bio, and you, I was born in Dallas, but I saw that you
were born in Dallas and then lived in Frisco.
I just finished a home, designing a home in Frisco, and it's in one of those gated communities.
So I want to talk to you since we're on the whole real estate vibe about
suburbia and you grew up in suburbia.
Frisco, Texas listener is like a suburb of Dallas and it's
very dystopian feeling, wouldn't you say?
Yeah, absolutely. All the houses look like the exact same.
Every subdivision has school all the way up to high school.
So in my neighborhood, there was an elementary school,
a middle school, and a high school,
like all within walking distance.
Which I didn't realize was not normal.
I was like, your schools are just not all in a neighborhood
like mine.
Very dystopian.
And it's only gotten more cookie cutter,
but people love it.
You know what I mean?
And now it's like become a city
because thanks to Jerry Jones,
who we later found out was a racist,
but it was a good bet.
He's so old.
Like if I had to bet money on that,
I would've been for sure that.
Cranky a white dude's a racist. I mean, when that thing came out, my husband had been
saying for years, I can't stand Jerry Jones. I bet he's racist. And it came out and he
just, what did I can tell you? He just has it written all over his face. I like, my
husband grew up loving the Cowboys. But when Jerry Jones became the super outspoken owner,
my husband was like, I'm calling it right now,
something's up with this guy.
But I do want to talk about, I worry about the suburbs,
and I've kind of had it with the suburbs.
Let me tell you why.
The dystopian aspect of it.
And then you've got all these cookie cutter houses.
Yeah.
All the strip malls look the same. You got your target,
you got your pet coat, you got your Walgreens across the street, the CBS. They tend to be really white
and I just worry that out in these suburbs we're breeding dystopian, uncultured, white
petri dishes of people.
And I just, I really worry about the suburbs.
Every time I drive through them,
I'm like, I just don't know what's going on out here,
and I don't know if I'm for it.
I really, I don't know where you're going on out here.
I worry.
I worry about it, Lacey, in this development
that I just installed the design project in,
they'll have these golf carts, right?
Nobody drives their golf carts around in their neighborhood. They They'll have these golf carts, right? Everybody drives their golf carts around
in their neighborhood.
They're all driving around golf carts,
and I just worry about what's going on out there.
I think there's a lot of feckery going on in the suburbs.
You know what's also interesting to your point
is that suburbs make it extremely difficult
for minorities to get housing
because of homeowners associations.
I just went down on a deep dive on
HOAs and how they can prevent certain people from coming into neighborhoods and actually um and about how
random fees and fines can pile up and they have lawyers and HOAs are privately owned so they're basically
just the mob um they're government of your neighborhood,
they're called the government, it's very bizarre.
So they can keep you speeding tickets
and they can enforce it and they can add fines
to the point where they can take your home,
like they can foreclose on your home,
which is so bizarre to me.
But the HOAs, specifically in McKinney,
I know that when there were some kind of law implemented
and it was so interesting to me
because we had all seen on the news
how there was like these little black girls
and swimsuits in the police were like
beating up on them and they had named like national news.
Randomly one day I was in a trailer
and like sometimes in acting trailers
like depends on the law if they're like,
hella old, it'll just be like the smallest TV
inside of the like built inside the trailer
and it only plays like PBS,
on repeat forever.
Right.
So you know, have anything else to watch?
So I was watching it, and it was about McKinney,
and it was about how they implemented
like these rules for lower income housing
where there had to be a certain amount of it in the area.
So that is why the policing went through the roof
because then people were trying to protect their coldest
acts and their property by harassing people.
And I noticed I used to get followed home a lot around that time.
And like all my parents drive them or say these and I would get followed home pulled over.
They're like, you know, have your legs on.
I'm like, you see them like, like, come on, let's be so serious.
Well, I mean, and that's the deal, Lacey, like, this is what I worry about in the suburbs.
I think they're really white.
I think they got really bad architecture. I think they're not. Oh, the suburbs. I think they're really white. I think they got really bad architecture.
I think they're not. Oh, the worst. Oh, the worst architecture. They're not integrating the communities.
I'm happiest as a person when I'm around diversity. And then the suburbs, it just seems like the
super focus white people. And I think sometimes they come up with bad ideas. And I feel like, I was all there doing over there. They're cooking up.
Listen, there's no more imaginations than in the suburbs.
They are making up people,
for Pharisees, all the damn time.
That's all they do for fun.
They get to have bunk on night,
to have their wine,
and then they talk about how to transcorrupt anarchy.
And it's like, there was a shooting in our area.
Like just the other day, like,
bro, they happen every single day,
they're like, no, no, no, no, no, it's the drag queen.
I was like, I think, no way it is, y'all.
Like, it's right there.
And so, yeah, they cook up conspiracy
because they're bored.
But the house, that like,
I always say that people who refuse
to look in a mirror, look out the window.
So, I like that.
Lacey, what is the county that Frisk goes in in Texas
is at Terrent County?
Colin.
Colin, okay.
That county had the highest percentage of attendees
at the January 6th insurrection.
The county that you can't even know, it is a fact.
Google it, fucking write it down. Your county that had the highest percentage of
mother fuckers that went to try to go overturn the election. I mean, listen.
It's like I need to explain that, but I will. I lived there. So that wasn't
shocking. And I will say it was like weird and hilarious. And also, you know,
fucked up when you see like real tours
that you've seen like advertisements for, you know,
and all this stuff.
And now they're like being called away and like,
chains and then you're like,
I'm like, did you took a private jet to go to the Capitol
and run it like it was Disneyland?
Like, what are you doing?
You're so embarrassing, aren't you?
In there?
Yeah, I mean, so the moral, the story listener
is I'm worried about the suburbs.
I'm glad you made it out safe, Lacey.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm glad you're not crazy to say.
Yeah, I made it out of the suburbs to say.
They gave me.
But it's so true.
And then it is true.
I worry about all these kids just getting totally indoctrinated that that's all there is
in the world is cookie cutter houses, you know,
these specific, you know, nationwide stores,
no art, no diversity.
I mean, you know, I just, I hope everybody makes it out okay.
That's all I'm saying.
No art, like what are you up to,
just golf and gas up and swinging.
Oh, there's a lot of swing going on.
Yeah.
I didn't even understand what swinging was until I can't remember this couple in
our neighborhood kept like come like they would walk by you know,
just strike up conversation with my parents and stuff.
And they kept telling my parents how they need to come over and see the new pool
table.
It was like, what?
Okay. I need to come over and see the new pool table. And it was like, what? Like, what? What? What? What?
Okay.
And it was like, now I want to talk about, so your podcast, Scam Goddess, you cover these
scams, which pumps and I have always called Scams Rackets.
Rackets.
Like that's a total racket, okay?
So I want to go around and everybody here pumps myself and our producer Kylie.
We're going to share with you our favorite scams slash racket. And I want you to give us feedback. And so I'm going to start first. So I just
did, I watched the documentary Hillsong about the Carl Lentz, the pastor in New York, this big
mega church. And he's this charismatic preacher who's talking about saving yourself, tell marriage. He's making millions
of dollars, not flying commercial. He's big dick in the big city, big time. This fucker's
drawn in all these people and it's purity culture and everybody be a virgin. He's making
millions. And then there are these women that volunteer for this church
in black and brown communities that work 40 hours a week
for this church, for free.
Well, guess what?
He fucked around.
Now he's gone.
On his wife, and then he found out,
and then he had to go.
And so this is a big scam to me.
This whole evangelical preacher, where they make all this money, And then he had to go and so this is a big scam to me this whole
Evangelical preacher where they make all this money they fly in these PJs
They're saying, you know, what's that other guy that Jerry Falwell Jr. That was paying the full pull boy?
Yeah, fuck is why same kind of racket. These are the rackets that I have had it with it
I think it's so disgusting to exploit people spiritually
and then profit off of it. And these people really believe in you. Like, they're really hopeful
that you're a good person and then most of the time they're not. They're not. No.
No, I just think if you think, like God is texting you personally and then nobody else and then
you got to get the word out, there's some kind of delusion there to start with.
I think some pastors really care about the community, but a big red flag for me is like,
when you wanna grow a church,
why do you need to grow a church?
Let's just have people pull up where we are.
Like, why do we need to reach more people?
No, you need to make more money.
That's right.
I can do.
And like, church, like religion in general,
is such a great way to scam people
because it's baked right into the Bible.
Walk by faith, not by sight.
Meaning don't look at this stuff that is questionable.
Right, leave.
Then you know what I mean?
And like what that's supposed to mean
is like don't worry about your circumstance right now.
Have faith that God will help you.
But what it's been twisted into is like,
don't worry about this private jet
and this rose voice that I bought with the money
that you gave to me willingly for an absolutely no reason
and have no way to account for it.
Don't ask me how to bathroom that had like,
behind the tile just like thousands of dollars,
like in cash, like totally.
God told you to do that.
Like what are we doing?
I think that that movement, those evangelical preachers
in these mega churches is the biggest racket
and spoiler alert, guess where most of these mega churches
are Lacey, one guess.
Suburbs.
They're in the fucking suburbs.
They are in the suburbs.
So I'm just.
Why haven't I been to four of them?
I've been to Hillsong, PDJ, X's properties, Joosteans properties.
I'll tell you exactly why you bend a four
because you were raised in the suburbs
and it just is the gateway drug to lead to that.
That was the first time I saw a credit card swipe
for like during offering.
Like, I know.
Yes, but you know it's usually a bastard.
They were like, don't worry, you can give God money.
I'll create it too.
Don't worry about that.
They didn't just ask it down.
Yeah.
That's unbelievable.
I didn't know that.
That is so bad.
Yeah.
I would just text the number and that's how you do it.
You've been mo, but Jesus.
Oh my God.
See, I think you're right.
Religion is the easiest one to pull a racket on people.
You got Scientology, all of these mega churches.
It's a total racket.
Total racket.
Okay, Pumps, what's your favorite?
Okay, I have two.
I'm tied for two with George Santos,
which I listened to your podcast on him,
which I loved.
Loved.
And then Elizabeth Holmes, the Theranos girl.
What do you think George Santos believes his lies? loved, loved, and then Elizabeth Holmes, the Theranos girl.
What do you think George Santos believes his lies?
I mean, when you dive into these scams,
do you find that the people believe the lies
or do they just don't give a shit that they're lying?
No, I don't think George Santos believes his lies,
but I do think that a lot of scammers, especially like him,
because he was lying about things
that he just didn't have to lie about.
It's like George nobody asked.
Like literally nobody asked.
You think you're not even gonna be me?
He's like, I graduated from Harvard.
He's like, we didn't ask.
But I think there's a fun in people believing your lies.
And so that's why they keep doing it
because there's like a power and a control.
It's like, I just made a whole reality
that doesn't really exist and you're believing it.
And there's so much power in that.
I mean, look at what our government is.
It's just a bunch of old white dudes who were like,
let's make up rules for everybody.
None of it's real.
So I think like I love a scammer like George
because he was like, I'm gonna make up my own rules.
I'm gonna lie, I'm gonna do crime.
Now was he good at it?
No, like, you know, he could have taken some point
and said like a Clarence Thomas,
something you don't know.
In the game longer.
They're doing it great, you know?
Totally.
Start live career, sad to see.
Yeah, you know what's interesting for me
about George Santos is he's gay
and like he's going to the most homophobic party
on the planet for comfort and like camaraderie.
And it's like, oh my God, it's like Candace Owens.
You know, I'm like, what is wrong with it?
What's going on there?
Like I don't give it.
If it's what, it makes sense.
I mean, there's so many educated black women
in liberal spaces and trying to affect real change.
That it's hard, that's like a large room.
Like saying something smart,
probably isn't gonna get you the traction that it would is you go be the puppet for the devil because you're like there's only a few black people over here so that's a clear lane for you know cool and
decision to get some notoriety and the same thing with George Santos like when you don't have that many log cabin Republicans it's so easy to shoot to the top and stand out because now you can be a mascot for this party that pretends that their platform isn't bigotry.
Because we're like, look at our diverse,
that we got to get out there and be diverse.
Tell them about it, tell them about the GOP,
diverse, get out there.
So they're being the diverse.
Now I'll always hear some, you know, like,
white woman, my age, you know, upper middle class,
white woman, and she'll say something like,
oh no, I really love Candace Owens. And I'm like, oh, no, you know, upper middle class white woman, and she'll say something like, oh, no, I really love Candace Owens. And I'm like, oh, now I know. I think they they trot her out to say,
hey, I'm not racist. I listen to a black person. You know, she's Oprah for bigots.
That is so good.
That's good.
Pups go on about theranos.
Okay, so the theranos deal, which why they let her stay out of jail so long because she
kept having babies, that just turns my stomach, delogues.
But so do we think that she believed her lies or she just got caught up in it?
I'm really interested in that.
I don't know why.
So I think she's a unique case because obviously she was lying,
but she was in this male dominated space
where a lot of people in the beginning
of launching their projects would lie to venture capitalists
about how far along they were in the process
and everything because that kind of became the culture.
It's like we got to get the money first
so we can't tell them the tiny thing isn't actually made yet.
You know, you just got a wow woman, a razzle dazzleum.
And so in that respect, I think that she did believe her lies
because she was like, as soon as we get all this money
from these people that I'm lying to,
like we're gonna make the tiny thing,
like don't worry about it, you know?
And then once she got too deep in it,
then she just started lying
because she was, you know, went in way too deep.
I don't only have sympathy for her because she was, you know, went in way too deep.
I don't really have sympathy for her because she scammed so many cancer patients and it's
like, bro, if you know that you're actually not being able to check these people's blood
and they're dying, like maybe just, she couldn't have even just pulled out of that particular
experiment and left those people alone.
So it was a persevere because you're chasing money and fame and doing a weird low voice and saying you're too sexy
for prison girl. You are not too
not too cute for prison. You are
just the right look for prison.
I told Jennifer that I said,
yeah, she said I stormed up here
and was like she said she's too
pretty to get a person and
Jennifer goes, well, she's not
that pretty.
She was wilding with that statement.
Also like it's funny to see that she just like cosplayed Steve Jobs. She was violent with that statement. Also, it's funny to see that she just cosplayed Steve Jobs.
She was like, she skipped a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, totally, totally.
And Rich, once you get to a certain level of,
well, people dying becomes like a line item on a spreadsheet.
You know what I mean?
It's not like you're seeing that you're actually
affecting people's livelihood.
I think like, it's the session just like,
it's such a great job of that.
Where they're like, you killed the guy at the end
and they just like throw it out there like,
oh yeah, right, he did kill a guy.
But it was not an important thing because they're rich, right?
So these people aren't people to them.
So that's why she had no remorse for them.
I think she had more remorse for ripping off people rich
enough to put her in jail because none of the counsels
she's going to prison for have to do
with the sick people that she hurt.
It's all the money that she stole.
Yeah, that's right. I mean, and that's kind of what it always boils back to.
It's the money. The money. And our justice system has so many, it's kind of a racket. I mean,
my husband was a criminal defense lawyer for many, many years. And people that committed
white color crimes could hire him. And they got preferential treatment in the court system.
There's just no doubt about it.
And so, you know, there's a lot of work to be done,
but we don't need to digress into that
because Kylie has.
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My favorite scammer is Hilaria Baldwin.
She's got the fake accent.
She's been doing it forever and she grew up in a multi-million dollar home in Boston.
In Boston.
In Boston.
In Boston.
And she's married to Alec Baldwin.
She's had like 75%.
I don't understand the kids.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh. Wait. I have to Google right now because I have to do a dramatic reading of her children's
names because it is.
Like, like I cannot believe that she pretended to be Spanish and then went as far as to give
all of her children who are not Spanish Spanish names.
And when I read these names to you, okay, here we go. Oh, Spanish names. It's when I read these names to you.
Okay, here we go.
Oh, Carmen Gabierta.
Rafael Tomás.
Romeo Alejandro Davi.
Eduardo Edu Fau Lucas.
Maria Lucia Vittor.
And with the formantor,
Ilaria Catalina Irrina. Dale mamacita, Miss Mischaro. I'm going to tell you something. I really worry. Like when I, when people breed a lot, it kind of freaks me out.
You know, seven and counting.
And he's old as fuck.
Old as fuck.
Seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know,
you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know,
seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting.
And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting. And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting. And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting. And then the whole thing is like, you know, seven and counting. And then the whole of freaks me out You know seven and counting and he's old as fuck. I'll just fuck seven and counting and and then the whole like the whole
Faking the Spanish accent. That's fucked up. It's really bizarre
Now the thing is it's not it's fucked up in a way that it's super weird
But it's not fucked up in a way racially, which I think a lot of people like missed
because there's a difference between race and nationality.
So I am a black person in America, right?
You can be a white person in ithbanya.
So it was just the same pussy.
It was good.
That's what I think.
It was totally victimless.
I mean, she didn't hurt anybody.
I mean, Alexander Baldwin,
because you know you used to have a thing for Salma Hayek,
so she was like, I'm gonna be Salma Hayek.
Oh, that's probably great.
I mean, I remember when this first came out,
because I have like a,
I'll get on Twitter and I'll be on it for a long time
if there's some scandal
that I'm off of for months on end.
But when that thing came out,
because it was the way it kind of came about,
didn't somebody kind of just like do a random tweet
and then it just went viral?
Like has anyone else noticed that
Hilaria Baldwin is faking her Spanish accent?
And everybody's like, oh holy shit, she is.
Another great time I had on Twitter
was the Rudy Giuliani four seasons
total landscaping press conference.
That was fantastic.
That shit was like fucking cocaine.
Line after line, I was a fucking Hoover vacuum cleaner.
I could not get enough of that shit.
The tweets were high quality.
The trolling was high quality.
The fact that that motherfucker thought
he was going to the four seasons hotel
and he trots out to the four seasons.
Totally.
That's just a deal.
Thanks to the sex shop.
It's just some of the best shit ever.
Okay.
Lacey, we're going to play a game
with you. Had it or hit it. Oh my god. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it. I
had it. I hit it every day sometimes twice a day. Had it or hit it in F T's. Oh my
had had it completely had it. It's not real. It's a Ponzi scheme. Like, can we be so serious and burial?
Agree.
Totally.
It's a total racket.
Yeah.
It's our millennial Ponzi scheme.
It's us.
We're responsible, but we don't really let us have money.
So we had to make up something.
It's right.
You can't buy a house, so you got to fucking do this shit.
I mean, okay.
Yeah, you need a monkey picture online.
Okay.
Had it or hit it, this is to your generation.
Gender reveal parties.
Oh, hit it.
And you're, you're, why?
Okay, let's, here.
I told you, we don't have houses.
You think I want to skip two opportunities to party
and you buy my baby gifts and give me money?
Oh, do I care about the genitals of a baby?
Absolutely not, but if you don't get you to my house with a gift, get it?
You can't argue with that logic.
I mean, I've had it.
I've had it with the genitals.
We're not big gender revealers.
I've really had it.
I worry about it.
I burn down a forest.
I mean, just have a cake and cut it open and then also give me gifts.
Okay. a forest. I mean, just have a cake and cut it open and then also give me gifts. Okay, had it or hit it, low-rise jeans.
I'm of the Britney Spears Christina Aguilero generation. Absolutely had it.
Jindy's trying to bring that back. I don't want to see the top of your vagina.
I don't want to see your vagina. Absolutely had it. No, thank you.
No, thank you.
Okay, had it or hit No, thank you. No, thank you. Okay.
Had it or hit it, naps.
I don't know, because every other day
that tell you that like, naps are good for you.
Naps give you heart attacks.
I don't know which one it is,
but I'm gonna say, hit it,
because I'm napping babes, I'm gonna nap after this.
Ha ha ha ha.
Get your nap on.
Okay, had it or hit it, target.
I'm tired of target hitting me if we're going to be quite honest.
Every time I go in there, they hit me with the most expensive receipts.
I came in for toothpaste and I'm damn paying $500.
How do we get here?
I have to hit it.
I like target.
I like target.
And I'm glad that the people that I don't want to shop with are boycotting Target.
Because then it's like, okay, great.
This is going to be like no homophobes, no racists at Target.
I'm glad they're all boycotting it.
So it makes me love it even more.
And they lie.
They are lying.
I'm just saying to any of these boycotts, they are going to Target.
They are drinking second down that bud light.
Sucking it down with the straw.
Well, let's see.
Mosley, you are an absolute treat and absolute delight.
I am so grateful that you made it out of the suburbs to Los Angeles. I hope that you're able to buy real estate soon.
Just keep wishing light of candle, get a crystal charge and under the moonlight for me anything
help. I'll pitch you on the Hillsong Prayer Warrior list about that.
Thank you. So thank you guys for having me. This was so fun. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha because she's just like energy bottled up energy. She's great. So I have to say, you know,
you every time you did a fuck Mary Kill with guests, right?
Before I did it with you at the beginning of this episode,
you would say, I fancy myself, you know,
incredible at fuck Mary Kill.
Yeah.
And so we had Jared, we had Heather McMan,
we've had some other people.
I think there are explanations
and how much it made me giggle after.
I think they were better at the game than you were.
You cannot take my number one
Fuck Mary Kill status away from me in my mind.
You're gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
I'm just gonna be up here,
number one in my mind regardless.
Here's the deal.
So I'm gonna try to out another one.
I'm gonna give you another chance.
Okay.
Okay, because right now I'd say you're probably at 11.
I'm saying you're not rounding out the top 10.
A fuck Mary Kill.
Okay, well I just wanna say that I am in the Olympics
a fuck Mary Kill, like you're in the Olympics
of pickleball.
In my mind, I'm so good at it.
All right, all right, we'll pull out the permanent record.
See how I did.
The next time we record, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna try to out some really good fuck Mary Kills.
Okay.
And we'll see.
I mean, I'm sitting over here,
fucking Ted Cruz, throw me a bone.
I know, but you just said I'm fucking Ted Cruz.
I mean, you need to make me laugh.
You need to sell this shit.
You need to inject humor into it.
You're the princess fucking god damn Diana of podcasting.
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