Jack - 13 New Indictments

Episode Date: February 19, 2018

This week, we discuss Trump’s response to the tragic Florida school shooting, dirt on Devin Nunes, WH lawyer Don McGahn, and of course–A.G. breaks down Mueller’s 13 Russian indictments! Enjoy!

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So it's just more of a mystery, even though it's really not hard to figure out who I am. Sure. All right. Well, with the high theirs and hello is out of the way, how about we get right to, right to it with just the facts? All right, guys. So starting Sunday, Newsweek released a piece on Nunez.

It's a pretty great article about a pretty despicable man, and since Jordan has been so studiously covering him for us, she's gonna have a devin deep dive in a little bit. I think I look forward to that. Monday was a big day, aside from us finding out Putin spoke to Trump yet again by phone. This time about Palestinian Israeli settlements. You guys that's eight times they've chatted where we've had to learn about it from the Russian media. The House Intelligence Committee declassified a Susan Rice email on Monday. Did you guys catch this story? This is crazy. Susan Rice is the old Mike Flynn of your okay okay? And so this email, she sent it to herself to keep a record of a discussion she had with Obama, Biden and Komi, where Obama told Komi to keep.

Yeah. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Sweet, sick. I'm sorry. So sorry. Sweet, thick, sweet. Don't apologize. Anyway, so this was a meeting.

It was after an official meeting. They had kind of a side meeting with Obama Biden and Komi. Obama told Komi, keep investigating Russia by the book. But then he said, let us know if there's anything we're not supposed to brief the incoming administration on. Because of Russia, like, you know, if you have anything that you need to tell us, you know, and ask Komi to let them know if that were the case, like, can we brief them on 100% of Russia knowing that what, you know, what they've been doing?

Does they've been talking to them and that they're potentially under investigation? Yeah, exactly. So, so that's, anyway, the Republicans tried to make a scandal out of this email by saying she sent it to herself to establish that the FBI was following the rules. Like, like, every would knew the FBI wasn't doing the investigation by the book, so she sent a little email to herself saying, oh, Obama told him to do it by the book. And to me, and really anyone with half a brain, this was just a contemporaneous attempt to have a record that the outgoing administration was concerned about briefing the incoming administration on Russia. And it took me a really long time to figure out why the GOP, particularly Graham and Grassley,

were making this public. They're the ones who released this declassified it and sent a letter to Susan Rice asking her WTF. And I was, I sat and I thought about, I had conversations with friends, somebody I speak to, who's a podcast listener Kevin Burns. I was like, what, I don't even understand like what, what are they talking about?

Like why are the Republicans even bringing this up does makes them look bad? This is just, there's another piece of evidence that you can't talk to Trump about Russia because he's in on it and so we finally explained it to me like oh they think you know she sent it to to basically establish the fact that Obama wanted the investigation done by the book and did you really or was the FBI doing it all rogue? And so I thought that was just a really weird set of circumstances that they released that. I'm looking forward to how Susan Rice responds to Grassley and Graham's letter. Grassley and Graham incidentally are also the guys who sent the criminal referral to Christopher Steel or to the DOJ for Christopher Steel.

Yeah. Guys are turds. That's turds. Tuesday, the IC leaders intelligence intelligence community leaders, answered questions in an open session of the Senate Intel Committee. Ray was asked about when information was provided to the White House on the background check of Rob Porter. And here was Ray's answer. He said, quote, the FBI submitted a partial report in March 2017. Then we submitted a complete report to the White House in late July.

We got a follow-up inquiry that same month from the White House, and we provided confirmation in November. We closed the inquiry in January, then reopened it when we got additional information in February and submitted that to the White House. So there's an article that was put out that said that the CIA paid like $10 million, but then it got taken down to one million dollars and then ended up paying $100,000 to get this intel. And Trump thought he was like, see, it's ridiculous.

But Pompeo said it's completely inaccurate. No one was swindled. We don't pay for information. So shut up. Trump cited that New York Times article in a tweets and here's his tweet, quote, according to the New York Times, a Russian sold phony secrets on Trump to the US asking price was 10 million brought down to one million to be paid over time I hope people are now seeing that and understanding what's going on here it's all starting to come out now

drain the swamp so yeah yeah and and Pompeo who's his dude was like Pompeo's the one who met with a three Russian spy chiefs the couple weeks ago in secret. So he's not like a Trump hater, right? But he's like, no, dude, we didn't pay anyone shut up. So the CIA never offered any money to anyone, and in fact testified that the operative that proffered that disinfermozia, basically, to the US government, proffered the same phony intel to reporters. So when reporters put out the story

that the CIA got swindled for $100,000, it was because they also got the disinformation from Russia that they were swindled. It was a disinformation campaign. Also on Tuesday, new reports released indicated that Rachel Brandt, the number three at the DOJ that quit work to work at Walmart,

last night you remember that whole thing that went down. At first, they were saying it had nothing to do with the Russian investigation. But now reports are coming out that she was actually worried she might be asked to oversee the Mueller investigation. She was indicating that she was worried that Rosenstein would be fired.

Oddly, Walmart began courting brand right around the time Trump was blustering about firing Rosenstein Mm-hmm. And another interesting point is that even though we don't want Rosenstein to be fired, he may have to recuse himself if he's questioned about that letter. He helped Trump draft to fire Comey. It wasn't used. But he did draft that first letter.

So, and if you remember last week, I posed the possibility that Trump and the GOP instructed Walmart to make brand and offer, so they didn't have to fire her. You remember that? I was like, I think they, like colluded with Walmart. Walmart collusion. And outright, Maddow reported the same thing a couple of days later on her show. So I don't feel like my hat is made entirely of tin foil. Great my think alike. When major news outlets are positing the same theories that I am. Rachel and I were born like almost at the exact same time. No way. Her neck is far longer and superior to mine. Literally. But I think that's what I was imagine.

Because she has a short hair. So I'm like that. No it's true. No matter how short my hair gets, my next day is the same. She is... I don't know, I love her. She's the best. She's she's badass Well, you also have to remember she's entirely just a liberal, you know, Damon Yeah, she is a lizard person. We can't forget that. Yeah, who really are the lizard people here? I would say I miss NBC. Well, I am one of them if I'm being honest. Well, I have to say that I model a lot of what we do here after the way she runs her show, because the way that she does it and the way that I like to do it as well is that I give you what the facts are. Then I'll come up with whatever theories I want to come up with, but I'll make sure to designate between the two. Exactly.

That's a very important thing that I do here. And so when you do your research research you guys do exactly the same thing And so we like to keep that that integrity to the show absolutely So you can call us nut jobs about our theories, but the facts are the facts So but again, we only have the fuck you in the heart John Spurlock hater. We only have the one I know Yeah, I saw like just recently. He's like, oh now you're gonna have to apologize because anyway we'll get to that because that's Friday It's like haven't seen the Nancy Drew's in a while figured I'd stop in and be a fucking troll. Yeah, he calls us the Nancy Drew At least he thinks about I wonder if he jerks off to us. Well, they will when the calendars come out

All right, so we also found out that Porter, yeah, as you reported last week, part of the Hicks Lewandowski Porter love triangle, was actually up for a promotion before he was fired. They wanted him to be WD Chief of Staff. Because he was doing so well. John Kelly's bright hand man, that's why John Kelly was so butt hurt when he left and tried to come before. That's why he was, yeah. He was like, yeah, he was like, I was, you know, I was his mentor. Yeah, well they kept saying he's so good at his job.

Doesn't matter if he punched a couple of bros. I got to like, did you, did you, like, have you mentor them? Like, how to beat his wife or was it, I don't know. I don't want to put any allegation on John Kelly. True, true. Decorated war hero, but. They just really like going to boxing gy gems with overlays of women's faces Or my favorite is the thing they did the shooting ranges with ladies on the targets. That's great

I wonder how many Hillary shooting targets they've sold in the last Some fun news Cohen said he paid stormy Daniels out of his own pocket the $130,000 to keep quiet about sleeping with Trump though I would not tell anyone for free You would not have to pay me to not tell people I slept with no Even if it took down his whole presidency, I'd be like no never happened Yeah, she's like a president. you should mention it and see, this is my reputation. I think that's where the whole, what happens in Vegas, days in Vegas comes from.

It's people fucking Donald Trump. Oh, yes. Yeah, just a disgusting, again, lizard people. Oh, how can you even get it in? It's not even, like, how would you even know? How would you, first of all, sign? I don't know. I don't want to talk about it.

I don't want to picture it. I don't wanna picture it, and I'm sorry for those who just had to. P tapes. Peepee tapes on the way. Wednesday, Gates, our friend Rick Gates filed a court document, Pro-Say, to extend his filing until next week. That means he's defending himself

for this particular court document. All right, so remember last week when I reported a small story about Gates making a court appearance to change his council again. And I didn't know if it was related to the two-sealed council removal documents he filed the week before, in which he supposedly fired or let go his previous criminal defense attorneys,

or if the meeting this week, or last week was to remove his current council, who also was a long-time friend of Muller named Tom Green, which is funny if you know the real Tom Green. Tom Green is the one he just hired that gave us a clue that you know by hiring him that the gates might be flipping. So anyway it turns out that he filed this document pro-say to pro-say means Representing yourself to ask the court to give him another week to figure out who the lawyer is going to be He's most certainly out of money. Do you guys remember we reported like mid-December like right before Christmas

Gates was having a weird fundraiser in a banquet room of a holiday in in Arlington, Virginia That he himself could not go to, because he was under house arrest, so he appeared via teleconference. Do you remember that? All right, so you guys remember that, right? The whole teleconference weird holiday in. Right. Fucking fiasco where he's trying to raise a quarter of a million dollars.

Well, this dude is out of money, okay? Yeah, clearly. And he has a young family, he's 45, and good lawyers are not cheap, but somebody estimated that defending yourself money. Okay. Yeah. Clearly. And he has a young family. He's 45. And good lawyers are not cheap. But somebody estimated that defending yourself in a case like this would cost one to one and a half million dollars. Oh my God. So he's probably singing like Beverly Sills to Muller right now and trying to figure out what to do about his legal defense. There's got to be someone though who'd

represent him like pro bono and exchange for good proffer, you know, a proffer by the way is what you offer the prosecution on whoever you're flipping on. So like when, so like flint proffer was what fling gave Mueller. Oh, on their side. In exchange for his plea deal. Got it. So there's got to be somebody who would do this for the investigation, for the good of the investigation if his proper is good enough. And it seems as though it is. But the fact here is that Gates has broke AF and his problem. I read somewhere that he said that he was expecting some sort of legal defense fund to come through for him. Yeah.

And then he just stood up cold. So no thing pink set aside. Hanging out to dry. So, and the fact that Manafort's holding so hard, I feel like Trump's paying his legal fees or something. He's got a band. And so they are. So I think, oh, here we go. We also found out Wednesday that now 134 Trump appointees do not have full security clearance.

This from the party who wanted to lock up Hillary for using a private email server, even though there was no evidence found that classified information was compromised at all with Hillary's and a private server. And yes, we all agree she shouldn't have used a private server. And you guys wanted to send her to prison for that. But we have 134 Trump appointees who don't even have clearance that are handling classified information. Send them all to the same prison. Yeah, I think this is part of an ongoing FBI effort. Prison of excessive punishment. It'll be like a Trump prison, so we'll let him design it,

but he has to stay there and say, the federal pound me in the ass prison. Oh, yeah. From office space. I think this is a part of an ongoing FBI effort to tell Trump to go fuck himself. All these leaks about Sorensen and Porter and now 134 more people, Trump keeps being a dick to the FBI. So the FBI is like, all right, you have 134 people who we didn't clear and we're going to tell Washington Post about it. Because all of our sources say, I think the sources are people who work rank and file on the FBI who are tired of being shit on by Trump.

Yeah, it's disrespectful. Do you know a quick answer for why they're allowed to continue doing work when they don't have a full security clearance? Yeah, it's a, they have a temporary clearance and the FBI doesn't enforce the clearance, they report it to whatever hiring agency is trying to hire someone and get them clearance. It's up to the agency to determine whether or not they refuse the job to that person. So this is the White House allowing it to continue. Wow.

Yeah. Yeah. They're saying, fuck you FBI. We got this. And I don't know how out of the White House, the fucking White House, the top of the top, you can have 134 people who haven't passed their security clearance. I'm weighed out at the bottom, hiring clerks.

And they've got to have security. None of them didn't pass. They're security clearance. Now granted, they weren't looking at a top classified information, but they were looking at some stuff that I can't tell you, because it would give away my job. Yeah. That is, it's confidential.

But the point, yeah, is valid, I think. There's a lack of pride, I think, or they just take this position for granted. I mean, the whole administration, or at least the cabinet seems to just be so disconnected with the average person that cares so much. Personally, what I think it is is that they don't know good enough people.

They don't know enough good people. And their own personal lives. Yeah. Once that can pass a clearance, yeah, they don't know good enough people. They don't know enough good people. And their own personal lives? Yeah. Once that can pass a clearance. Yeah. They don't know enough good people. Oh. Yeah. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel for these pieces of people because they don't know any good people. That's my thought. That's not fact. That is conjecture. But it's true. All right. Then on Wednesday, you guys, something completely devastating happened. 17 students and

faculty were killed in a school shooting in Florida. We don't normally report on things outside of the purview or the Russia probe on the show unless I feel it's so important that it warrants coverage. The only other time we've done this is when Trump disparaged pretty much half the world by calling them shithole countries, which really offended me as a veteran. This shooting is yet another white terrorist with an AR-15 assault rifle piling onto the number of absolutely senseless deaths that hardcore GOP and NRA gun junkies see as justified in order to preserve their weird fucking hobbies.

I have just a few points I want to make on this topic. First, my first point is that the second amendment has outlived its usefulness. It's an amendment, which means it can be amended. We have lots of amendments that were amended again. No independent armed militia will ever be able to throw the US military in a coup. So stop saying you need to collect guns to be able to rise up against the government. Also, you spit hate at oppressed people and people of color for exercising their right to free speech when they kneel during the national

anthem because you insist it's somehow disrespectful to our troops. But those are the same troops you keep wanting to amass arms to one day rise up against. I don't fucking understand. Knock it off. And finally, personally, no one needs an AR-15 unless you're a lousy shot in a fucking coward. If you hit a target with a single action rifle or a pistol, if you can't hit a target with a single action rifle or a pistol, get a new fucking hobby. You suck at guns.

Or try a shotgun with a wider spread, okay, because you suck at guns or try and shot gun with a wider spread, okay? Because you just you suck at shooting dead Americans are not a reasonable trade for your idiotic hobby And I know that this affected you guys too So I wanted to give you guys a chance to talk about your thoughts on this just absolutely devastating fucking Yeah, I mean, I have a brother in high school who just started his freshman year and it's just I mean Even at that age there's Enough going on that to have to deal with that kind of trauma is just it's Ridiculous and and totally preventable so I mean we could talk all day about The the racism and that goes with you know this administration

But then I look at the fact that I see white kids dying too, and I'm like, what is going on? Well, we know that that's the number one reason that they want to have guns is to protect themselves against people of color, not not a tyrannical government. If they really cared about protecting themselves against a tyrannical government, they would have been cheering when people of color shot all those cops and Dallas, because that was a well-armed organized militia defending themselves against a tyrannical government. So by definition, you can't have one and not the other.

Exactly. I totally agree. And if you do try to have one and not the other, it's because you're racist. I'm sorry. In a simple, yeah. I apologize if I lose listeners over this, but I think, and these are just my opinions, you don't have to agree with me at all, but it needs to be talked about

because something absolutely has to be done. We can't just keep saying it's too soon to talk about it because by the time you're ready, we've already, we've already had 18 this year. Yeah, I, there was something about this one and it's so sad and horrible that we're explaining it in terms like that. This one is just things that, you know, they can really happen over and over and over again. But I feel like the energy about this one is just you can see it already, immediate action,

immediate, there was a speech by this amazing girl who... These kids are fucking pissed. Yeah, they're hardcore advocates. They've been politicized by this event immediately because there's no other option. It's just to the point where it's beyond any sort of rationalization. It doesn't make any sense to anybody at all. The only thing that can happen is just to change the one thing that is allowing so many people to die at one point in time.

Yes. It's a fucking AR-15. And how do you get away from regular people? It doesn't make any sense. Take a look at me. If you want to shoot a military gun, join the Suck in Military. There you go. And I had, I grew up in Las Vegas and I had a lot of friends and family that were at

the festival that happened when the last massacre happened. Yeah, and terrifying. It's terrifying. And it's all white guys with AR-15. Right, no one's safe. To me that means that even as a black person it's like, well, we haven't... pretty much we both have a chance of dying at this kind of thing because... I don't understand what white people are so fucking pissed about.

Well, I mean, he's like, you mean like why they're committing these issues? You're white. The white nationalism. Yeah. Every like, I think maybe he was a white nationalist, but he was like, he was. He probably, yeah, but he also had the thing as a guy. He also has autistic, I heard some. I guess that was.

Yeah, I was. Did he target people of color? Kiss to me, I think maybe the white nationalist thing is problematic, but also maybe not his motive for the shooting. Yeah, no, and I'm not, when I say these are white dudes, is problematic, but also maybe not his motive for the shootings. Yeah, no And I'm not when I say these are white dudes. I'm not talking about motive I'm talking about you're the major you're the winner You're the winners in the skin color contest of the world

They don't see it that way. They see it as their own struggles Which I understand everyone has their own struggle But but to them to get to that point. It's like yeah, perspective is just lost in this It's also just isolation and radicalization These people the the group that he was a part of us He was a part of a white nationalist group Yeah, I can need more friends of color honestly He need more people to be like hey like whatever you think of us like you're your your brainwashed

You like it's not like that in the real world This folks person for the white nationalist group that he had trained with released a statement saying It was almost honestly very darkly comical because he's saying look all we do is isolate ourselves from the rest of colored society and occasionally go out and do demonstration and this is what I do in the world. But that guy acted all on his own and over 40% of this high school population were Jewish kids.

So there's there's people saying this is Parkland voted the safest city in Florida. It almost makes no sense, right? So I feel like something else. Racism is definitely well, there's a lot of people not saying that it's necessarily an anti-Semitic, you know, field act, but just the very idea that it's an, you know, this essentially, like, almost 50% of the population is about that. I forget that part of the tribal action list. Yeah, the group that he was in, it's just, their symbol is what it's like a, they call

them to the Republic of Florida. I forget. Nazis also hate white people. That, I mean, as a black person, it's so funny that I forget that because it makes no sense. It's like, the oppression is,'s almost the same in that kind of community It's like they hate Jews they hate black people is in here like yeah, and it's crazy because it's just doesn't make any sense It's like why yeah, I wouldn't be able to distinguish you two in a crowd

So like what is your problem like racism? I look I don't get but I can't see like wait look up There's a tamercatan who's a comedian does a really great piece on this where he talks about the reason is is because He compares racism and hatred to a drug addiction It feels good for a minute But it will rot you from the inside out the power. Yeah, yeah, that is Yeah, he's you guys if you get a chance to listen to Tamarcatan, very prolific, hilarious comedian, but also very prolific, uh, uh, man is right. Definitely. But yeah, sorry, last thing on this, um, or last thing I want to say on this, yeah, um, one of my friends,

ex-friend, she blocked me on Facebook over this, well, thing that happened is really stupid, but she was at the shooting in Vegas that happened and or her family was I'm fairly certain she was I know that all her family was okay she posts this thing about this shooter from Parkland and it says look at this guy's face this is clearly a mentally ill face this is it's this post that went viral and it says that this shooting happened as a result of the pussy fictitious quote unquote of this country when our kids don't even know what bathrooms they're supposed to use or they don't. And it starts bringing in all of these liberal causes. It's insane.

Alright, so since 99.99% of these shootings are done by men, can we assume that men are only mental ill? Yeah. So, can you stop calling us fucking crazy ex-girlfriends then? Yeah. You gaslighting pieces of shit? Seriously? Yeah, just so much gaslighting and then I need to- Oh, no wait, it doesn't have to do with mental illness.

I'm sorry, that's what the answer is. But also to say he has a mental little face, it's like, what do you even think mental illness is? Yeah, and mental illness. Like, it's so weird. Do I have like a PTSD tattoo on my forehead? Right, on my forehead. It's not always so obvious But yeah, no, no, sorry, yeah, just to wrap up at the end it says Stop blaming Trump stop blaming people that have done nothing to actually further the the root causes of all this You know Trump's never don't blame Trump. He hasn't done anything in relation to it.

You're right, he hasn't done anything. But, no, but he did, because then this is how I got blocked. I commented, how can you possibly say this one year ago, essentially, Trump signed a bill that makes it easier for people with mental illness, with mental ill-saces? Yeah, exactly. Even though Obama tried to prevent that, he actually rolled back that lock, so it was an

active conscious decision. It's not just a Willie Nile just accidentally signed something. I think it was Willie Nile and the fact that it was just reversing something Obama did. There enough. And also that he got all that money from the NRA. That's 30 million. 30 million. But he chose his silence.

And by the way, that is the connection and why we're talking about this is because this money comes from Russia Yes, and appropriate Love Donald Trump releases this tweet He says very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. There is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud. Fuck you, you disgusting piece of shit. He did a two for one. He did a... How disgusting is that? It's the most... You can replace pretty much from now on.

Every time he says Russian collusion, you can replace the words Russian collusion with my small dick. I can't. Yeah. I just cannot believe that's the lowest stop talking about my small dick and get back to the basis. Anyone else that I know, I truly believe what thing twice about doing something like that. Like it shows that he just does and care. His filter is just not existing. You know, he just has no sense of shame. And he always cared about his clearing his name. I was watching a Watergate documentary before this episode. And I was just like, wow, Nixon was like a water downtrum.

Like, all the presidents, man. Not the movie, but the, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it's scary. And Trump has the audacity to say people will politicize a sensitive word. He just brought in Russian collusion in the same tweet that he's talking about. Any failures that may have led to the deaths with children. It's ridiculous. And by the way, if I read a tweet, if I or any of my children or anyone I know get shot by an AR-15 in a mass shooting, politicize

the fuck out of it immediately, I won't be upset. Yeah, as long as it gets something done, I say the whole point. It's politics, it's government. You've got to talk about it to do something about it, you know. Well, we'll see. This Congress is pretty much bought. This Congress, yeah, I can't wait. I mean, I know that...

Well, I tweeted, my first thought was the first thing we have to do is work as hard as we can to flip the Congress so that we can do what we need to do. Yeah, don't be discouraged by the fact that Russia is trying to still hack us and the fact that the president's helping them, I know that's a lot to take in, but I do feel like there is hope that our vote will still count for something, information, getting the word out about the hacking and letting people know that if this is what it comes down to when we all know who we want to be in these positions of power and What happens like if we get hacked again? I don't think people will well, I mean successfully to the point where let's say we all vote blue We we know it like it's a true blue wave and we get screwed over again. I don't know about you

But I'm gonna start making my own marches like I'm gonna stick well We have we have two obstacles to make up. First of all, we have to get over the Russian interference. It's gonna happen that we'll try to prevent the blue wave. Right. And then we also have to get over the gerrymandering that is exists intrinsically to where we have to have, I think, nine points on Republicans to be even. Mm-hmm.

So it's a lot, but it's it's possible. I mean, well, you guys, thank you for letting us get political for a second. I know this really isn't the I've made promises that this isn't a politically motivated podcast and we stick within the scope of the Mueller investigation, but I did contact Rod Rosenstein and asked him if I could go out the scope and the Mueller investigation, but I did contact Rod Rosenstein and asked him if I could go out the scope, and he said, yeah. So he actually just goes, yeah.

And he said I could. So this is mind-bogglingly important, and I really appreciate you guys giving us a minute to talk about it. So let's take a quick break, and we'll get back to this week's news. Thank you for listening to Muller She Wrote. If you want to help us make this show,

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Yes. We found out via WAPO that Trump asked McGann to call Dana Bente to pressure him to publicly exonerate the president. We reported this in episode 10, which was a beautiful episode. You should check out if you haven't heard it. Muller had handwritten notes from Ryan's prebus. Molle Molle Molle Molle Molle Molle That Trump had also asked him to call Bente because Komi refused to publicly do it.

And he instructed Trump he'd have to go through the Justice Department. He's like, I'm FBI dude, I can't do that. You got to go through the Justice Department. And at the time, it was Dana Bente who was the Acting Deputy Attorney General because sessions recu- this is a revolving door of Asa 9 craziness. Absolutely. But Bente came from the Eastern District of Virginia and then moved over there and then went back and then was removed and then now he's the FBI general counsel. Yes, it's pretty sweet. It's like a plot twist like a

season finale. I don't remember. It's pretty ridiculous. But anyway, Jolice was going to go into some detail about this information in a bit So yeah, so stick around for that Bannon spoke to Muller for over 20 hours behind closed doors this week Then appeared to the House Intelligence Committee per his subpoena that was postponed from the week prior And he didn't say shit to them basically He was there for four hours and he would only answer 25 white

house approved questions. So that's the fact. Well, that's the fact. My theory is that he's gagged by Mueller because special counsel is trying to make sure none of the testimony gets back to the White House. Well, essentially, then you're saying he kind of had to have flipped. Well, yeah, well, he's he spent 20 hours with Mueller and he said he was going to tell Mueller everything. Yeah, he's not saying shit to the House Intelligence Committee, and I think that he's gagged, but he can't tell anyone that he's gagged. 50 Shades of Bannon.

That's disgusting. Yes. We found out Thursday that Gates is finalizing as plea deal in addition, and additional charges are gonna be filed against Maniford and Gates. Put a pin in this because more news comes out Friday. Also Thursday Bloomberg reported that the IRS and the Department of Justice filed subpoenas

to lenders and investors in real estate projects managed by the Kushner family. So these are, this isn't the Mueller investigation. This is the IRS and the Department of Justice. Okay. Yeah, sweet. Then came Friday. On Friday, the Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein announced the special council had issued 13 indictments against Russians, plus one American. I'll go into this in more detail later in the show.

Yes. But we have more indictments. Oh, yes, we do. So cathartic. Huge yet small. I'll get the show. Yes. But we have more indictments. Oh, yes, we do. So cathartic. Mm-hmm. Huge yet small. And I'll get into that. OK.

The Daily Beast reported Friday, Kelly on Conway and Donald Trump Jr. pushed messages from an account operated by a Russian troll farm, including allegations of voter fraud 11 days before the elections. Are you laughing at the term Russian troll? Yeah, I am. I just don't always know. I always imagine. I just imagine. voter fraud 11 days before the election. Are you laughing at the term Russian so far? I am. I just don't always know.

I always imagine. This is the troll dolls growing up through the frozen toilet. OK, I think of an ant reform that I could just take home with me. Like a tiny little Russian troll reform. I can shake it, you know? I just shake it very bad now. I imagine just a bunch of gnomes inhabiting like an agriculture rule. Yeah. like a little slavery thing, no, not like cute. Okay, I keep slaves. We're happy a little gnomes Bridge troll just exposing you know secrets. I like it. Yeah, that's pretty fun

Trolls troll they troll they troll then yeah Then late Friday night Trolichro, they Trolichro, then. Then late Friday night, Mueller filed a document with the court threatening further charges of bank fraud on Paul Manafort. The actual charge wasn't levied. He didn't actually file a charge though, he just threatened. He said, I got stuff that could lead to bank fraud. And I think the reason he did this was to show

that Manafort is violating his bail agreement, you know, kind of the intent of that bail agreement, like I'm not going to talk to Russians and not to say no media. And that's kind of Trump voice right now. Everyone on House Trump has a problem. They all have the same voice. But I think this was to show the court that he's acting in bad faith against his bail agreement so that his bail would be revoked and Manafort would be held in custody until trial. This would help prevent Manafort from pushing back his trial date because you don't want to sit around in jail for any longer than you have to. Right.

Partacularily, federal pound me in the ass prison. So... Wait Manafort's in jail? Not yet. No, no, no. He's trying to push it off. Oh, got it. Yeah, I was thinking. I thought he was so pretty. I say pretty, like, and what's really cool is the timing, because the night before Gates was, yeah, Gates was like,

I don't know, it's maybe all flipping, it's maybe flipping. Oh. And then all of a sudden next day, I could threaten to charge you Manafort and basically to get his, I think, I don't know why, but I think it, they haven't said why, but I think it's to get his I think I don't know why but I think it is They haven't said why but I think it's to get his bail revoked so he has to sit present

That makes sense and he's got to be in custody until his trial so that he will not push his trial back because he He needs to give this shit done. That's oh, I hope that's the way to play I mean, yeah, well, it would be the sweetest to have the guy who invented the locker up chant Which he stole from the Russians, by the way. It would be great to have him sit in jail while he waits trial. Oh, he didn't create it. Okay, I thought that he was more of an originator of that.

Well, he got it from the Russians and used it in the Ukraine. That's right. Okay, yes. So it's an old Russian thing to jail your opponents. Right. It's an old Russian thing to jail your opponents. Right. It's an old tactic. In fact, there's about 96 different Trump campaign tactics that have come from Russia.

They can so fuck. And Friday, Kushner amended, again, his financial disclosure forms. Oh my God, his privilege is frustrating. Oh, or anything. Sorry. Oh, good. Yeah, I can't deal with it. Oh, no, I was just kidding. No, she just made those really impressive. Oh, no, I know. She should be.

That was the impression of. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, you're a question of Jared Kushner. Yeah. Good old one more thing, Kushner. And another thing. Jared and another thing, Kushner.

I was a lie. I just didn't disclose. Oh, his face is frustrating. And let's see, sadly, on Saturday night, a truck went on one of his stable genius Twitter meltdowns. And in one tweet, it's the same tweet you brought up earlier, blame the FBI for the Florida shooting. I'd read it again, but we've already read it and it kind of makes me sick to my stomach, so. Oh yeah. All right, you guys. It's time to talk to Jordan

and Jelisa and get their hot notes. Hot notes. As Shan was saying. Yeah. I like that. Hashtag hot notes. Hashtag hot notes. Jalisa, you have some information for me on Don McGann. Tell us what you got. Oh yeah. So we on Don McGann is one of Trump's main White House lawyers and they have like an interesting relationship right now. It seems like they're kind of on the rock. Yeah, Trump ordered him to talk to the FBI to get them to say that Trump was not under investigation. So that was one of the first times that he did actually make the call to to Bintay, but they weren't able to successfully convince Komi. Of course not, he's Komi. But like that was like one of the times that I guess again failed Trump is the I.G.S. so he's

kind of letting Trump down. And then there was also yeah basically anyone who's not able to obstruct is the I.G.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S. So cute. So there was also with the Sally Yates incident when she basically wore in the White House about Flynn, McGann was the contact. So that was the person that Yates sent the message to saying, hey this guy might have lied to us about the Russians. He's the contact. We're pretty much everything. Everything. He's been in every scandal.

He's kind of a central figure. And he's Trump's name. And he has the same lawyer as Bannon and Prebus. Yes. Molly, Molly, Molly, Molly. So McGanns also, he's in the center of the Rob Porter scandal because he also wasn't formed as early as January of last year about the domestic violence allocations against Porter that were discovered by the FBI.

So McGanns, primary role in all these controversies pretty much the fact that he can't make Trump look good in them is what's leading to their tension and people have been saying like they're having some pretty spectacular fights. And someone close to him actually said that he doesn't think that Trump hates McGin for the way he's handled things. He just feels like Trump's really used to lawyers that just do what he says and McGin's not that kind of guy. So they're at a point where he dirty lawyers, Trump's really used to lawyers that just do what he says and began to not that kind of guy. So they're at a point where he dirty lawyers, Trump's had. Seriously, and Cobb, Ty Cobb,

he's like the one that Trump actually likes because Cobb is like pretending that the White House is like going along with the investigation and he's like, yeah, we'll answer every question and McGann is like, shut up. Like, it just seems like the man's not Trump's lawyer. He's a White House lawyer. Yeah, you you know you're

right there is a difference yeah but I think Trump also forgets that he choose the same three defendants right again who are his three defendants he has no no he and banning and previous have the same lawyer oh my gans lawyers lawyer yeah the lawyer that got a lawyer it

is a lot we have several charts that need to be made about this. But yeah, this is true. Again, it's the White House's lawyer, not Trump's lawyer. But Trump is mad at him, about not defending him better. So that's an issue. Who's McGann's lawyer again? Burke. Burke.

OK. I think it was a crazy anatomy. Burke. So McGann's there serving at the pleasure of the president until the president decides to get rid of him, which sounds like he's probably trying to do a million times. You think so? But his actual lawyer, Trump's lawyers are probably like, dude, don't, just don't. He's on your side and he's kind of knows what he's doing.

But I think he's also, I mean, he's got the same, he's got the same lawyer as Bannon in previous. So yeah. I don't know Bannon in previous, so yeah. I don't know. Well, thank you so much. Absolutely. All right, let's go to Jordan for Devon Dirt. Yes, Devon Nunes. Devon No-Till the Noon is and that's fine.

Because he's a poor chick, he's a poor chick. And he's not stripping himself of his culture and that's why people have decided that that's just fine. Absolutely. I love it. We support you and you're no-till-do. Yes. Having never seen a till-do used in my life, and any of my immediate family.

There's a great article that Newsweek put out that AG reference at the top of the show. Its headline is, we'll include it in the newsletter for those of you that subscribe as well. So if you want to follow along with this segment, make sure to go to Patreon and subscribe. But the headline of the article, if you want to cheat the system and just look it up, is Nunez Memo reveals congressman's penchant for conspiracy theory. So essentially, this is an article that starts off, it's very long for stuff, but it's a long account essentially of Nunez's history, specifically his history with Michael Flynn, and just the continual dirt that seems to be coming up for his potential opponents to use against him in the upcoming elections, which is looking like it's going to be someone named Jan Z. He called himself, quote unquote, probably the happiest man in the country after the Nunes memo, because essentially just discredited Nunes. Yeah, he just took a little grave.

And so this article goes on, you know, talks a little bit about the memo and how it was more or less now kind of being regarded as something that came in a fury and then just fizzled basically just it's very their their sources their things that are being reported on that you know speak about the people that helped them get the documents for example and they're sort of corrupt and partisan ties and it's just very easily discredited the memo, honestly. And this, so that's just one small facet of Nunes. And this article, we get to learn of a few different things and a different theory for maybe how he was so politicized and how he's come to be this person that is an unprecedented person holding the chair position that he has. He unprecedented. Both. Yeah. But he is by pretty

much all colleagues that I would say are of any sort of credible dissent are saying that his position, his partisanry is absolutely unpressing and it had never been seen in the House Intelligence Committee. The chair of the House. That's ready. And. It's hard as the movie. Thank you. I just made that up and it flowed and I'm like, I'm gonna keep going. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. People in this article, or this article, the person that wrote it, is sort of making the assertion that Nunez was extremely politicized by Michael Flynn, which is an interesting thing to think about considering Flynn has gone for a little bit now. And we don't really, you know, we don't have to talk about him too much in detail. So this is a nice read. Ninnis has been, you know, on record saying that he had a really close relationship with

Flynn, says that he's, you know, one of the greatest people that's been in that position ever and just shows this reverence for him that has clearly maybe sort of transferred into the position that he's holding right now. Yeah, so we look at some things. For example, Nunez was speaking just five months after Flynn had startled many former military officers by leading Locker up chance against Hillary Clinton. Just all of these things are super in line with what he's doing right now As in his position as the chair of the House Intelligence Committee So Nunes was always backing Flynn up when like for there's essentially they were conspiracy theorists together in a lot of ways One of the examples of these conspiracies that Flynn and Nunez seem to double down on together

was they think that they wanted to see the release of the documents captured from Ben Lotton's layer because they wholeheartedly believed that those documents would show a closer relationship between Al Qaeda and Iran than the Obama White House. You know, let everyone to believe the White House that killed the London. Yes, exactly. Not good enough, he says. Oh, you gotta kill him more.

Yeah, I don't want it. Dead, I want everything. No, I'm killing a lot. If you guys are older and old enough to watch Buffy the Vampire. Yes. And then, in a classic new-nez move, he goes on to demand from the CIA. He tries to essentially sneak. They say he likes sneaks in sort of to try to see the documents on a Saturday and demands

that he sees these documents. Yes. And then this is reported in a very mocking tone. And then of course, Nu-Nez denied that that excursion they call it ever happened. It was at the central command headquarters too, so he just is going and thinking, you know, well he was the guy who sashayed down to the White House in a probably a really like a run like, I can't even picture how he runs, but remember when he ran to the White House to say, oh there's talking on the city's goal.

Oh yeah, he went back and forth. And it turns out he got it from the White House and then that's why he had to release himself from Russia. He is drama. So much drama. He is real housewives of the White House. Oh definitely. Yeah, patent pending.

We can't make that. So much drama. Drama. In drama. It's all very traumatic. No one went into patent law. drama drama and trauma that's all very traumatic I know I'm going into patent law continue yeah patent law is a side podcast where all the

beltware and revocware and fox go unless oh yeah patent law okay but anyway just another example here's another here's another one from it so newness concurred with Flynn's insistence that Tehran was involved with the 2012 attacks on the US consulate in annex and Benghazi. And they he oversaw two-year investigation into the incident focusing on what Republicans had portrayed as the Obama administration's inept responses. So this guy has a history, along with Michael Flynn, who is now as we know, flipped and is just working with him.

So they have a history together of essentially just being, I don't want to be super hyperbolic here and label them as conspiracy theorists because I believe in people questioning the government and whatever is happening, whatever. But I will say that they're unfounded claims that they were letlessly pursues. I don't know if that is the difference between conspiracy theorists and like politicos who are trying to come up with dirt on the opposing party. Right. Conspiracy theorists honestly believe what they're saying. I don't think Nunez actually believes that there's some sort of grand conspiracy. I think this is either grandstanding or he conspired with the White House to do this. I think he's acting and he's clearly a farmer in that. He's a puppet, like he's being bought maybe to some degree.

You know, I haven't met too many farmers that are good actors. I'm sure they exist. Right. But he's not one of them. And just to see how they act like they were in a track of those cowsholds. Like, like, sex out of house. Like, back of his hand on his forehead, like, oh my, I have to run to the White House. Oh, I don't know nothing about birth and no babies in a skeleton. And he's just the worst.

Yeah. And so conspiracy theorists actually think, I think, like Donald Trump is one. He actually believes what he thinks or what he says. Noona's, I think he's, I think his line out is fucking tea. You might be right. Yeah, I think so too. Okay, sorry, just to wrap up. Thanks for letting us get a little loosey goosey on the sweet 16. Yeah. You 16, everyone else. But so Nuna says that even he says that he vergy talks to Flynn virtually every day when they were working together and that there's not like a day that goes by that he says like another love of her.

Oh, is this thing? He misses him, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't have to be love, I guess. It can go. Bro man's? Yes, a bro manance per chance. Yeah. But they're boning.

They're boning. Which is totally fine. And to and to and paid one of them on. Just don't make the whole country pay for it. There you go. To and paid one of them $130,000 to not talk about it. Oh my god. You might know which one.

Yes. But this is a great article. There are so many instances that they lie out. There's even Flint's ties to Turkey and how Munez they lie out. There's even Flinstice to Turkey and how Munez ties into those. It's just a very... They're very interconnect. Yeah, and there's a lot of conjecture in this article I will say, but it is based on a lot of facts and tips from people who's... I would say their general tone matches what the implications are of some of the things that are working textures.

But yeah, essentially Flynn Crook flips and is now, you know, hopefully, helping to stop about the other Crooks. Nunez, I would say they were homies. They were homies. They were for sure homies. Yes. And his unprecedented Pilates As the Lion King and the politices. No, that's the English language. Yeah, public will have failed me. Yeah, but that's but that's them

Yeah, the public will failed me. But that's, but that's them. It's not like an emo song. Public school failed me. I know no one I can see. That's good. Okay, yeah. Anyway, I can do this. It's just any band up.

Nunes is supposed to be the head of this investigation that should be met with a lot of integrity. I don't need to say these things to our listeners. Yeah, I think that's a good idea. He's supposed to be like, he's full of shit. Yeah. All right, then. Yeah. All right, then. Yeah.

All right, you guys apparently, thank you very much. Oh, you're not apparently, thank you, but as moving on to the next thing, I am going to break down this 37-page indictment of 13 Russians for you. Oh, yes. And I'm going to do it pretty quickly. Let me start by framing this news of the 13 indictments into a little context for everyone. I'm sure you've all seen the videos on social media or on the show Cosmos or whatever that show us where the earth is in the solar system, where the solar system is in the Milky Way galaxy, where the Milky Way galaxy is in the local group of galaxies, in the tiny

sections of millions of group of galaxies and the giant expanse of the universe. Right, so it just keeps going and going and going. Well, this group of indictments is like that in my head. It's a speck of sand on a beach of sexy justice. Let's just say that. This came on like Donkey Kong, first of all. But really, all this is, is one group of 13 dudes, Russian dudes, who started a ground operation in the United States using fake IDs to pose as politicos in an effort to swing the election.

Yes, it's a huge and expensive complex operation. Much like the Earth is a vast giant biosphere of billions of species, you know, oceans, like the depths of things we haven't even discovered yet. It's super complex as a system, but in reference to the scope of the molar investigation, these indictments are pretty small, just like the Earth is pretty small in reference to the universe. So this is one of this indictment is one of five pillars of one of the three aspects of the entire investigation. It's hugely significant and very complex, super detailed.

Like the detail is astounding. Yet it's also just one tiny little sector of what Mueller is working on. In my view, these indictments serve two purposes and two purposes only. Mueller didn't have to release this to the public. And none of these guys, none of these Russians are going to be indicted or extradited or come to court or tried or anything. We're probably never going to find them. And this is what we call a speaking indictment. And he did it for a couple of reasons. And this is what I think.

I can't imagine to know the depth and breadth of Mueller's strategy, but here's my take on it. Reason number one is to shed light on the fact that the Russians meddled in our elections. Yes. Now, most of us, same people know that. But that's fact. But that whole press conference that Rod Rosenstein on was for one person.

It was for Donald Trump to say, hey, motherfucker, the Russians actually really did meddle in your elections. I even have roommates now that are like, hey, have you heard that the Russians had troll factories? I was like, yeah, I heard a year ago, but I'm so glad you know it now. Well, and it worked for a minute, right? Trump admitted the Russians were meddling in our elections. Finally, like he didn't say that he'd do anything about it, but he finally admitted it after years in a tweet.

I'm just saying, you know, is China or some fat guy? 400 pound dude. The other reason, the second reason, it was to fortify Rod Rosenstein's job. So Rod Rosenstein had two jobs that day. Get up and tell Trump that the Russian meddling was real. And by the way, I've been watching the Olympics and whenever they say, Russians meddled, I was like, yeah.

I saw that tweet, that is so good. In the Olympics, they've been mentioning, well, metal like getting a metal in the Olympics, but like it's funny. Got it. And I can't come away. I take it. They're like the Russians metal and I'm like, hi, yeah.

Yeah, they did. Well, so his job was to get up and tell Trump basically, hey, dude, this is real. The Russians metal in our elections. And number two, can't fire me now, bitch. That was his number two reasons Yeah, I'm not fire him now. I mean you can but it would look even worse Just stupid Do extra stupid. I like that. So yeah, if Trump wants Rosenstein out now

He'll have to maybe go to Walmart and get him to offer a job Try Kmart. Yeah So Trump and his supporters Think that this indictment proves his innocence, that it exonerates him, which shows what idiots they are. First of all, indictments charge people with crimes. They do not prove innocence. So Rosenstein was clear and careful in his statements when he said the allegations in this indictment do not include any Americans. And the allegations in this indictment do not prove influence on the outcome of the election

Right that is a clear indication that they're to me that there are more indictments to come yet It also gives like Trump sort of a hey, hey see I didn't what you're stupid You think that all I'm saying is that you aren't at fault here. Yeah, so they'll probably spill the beans thinking that they're safe Well, well, yeah, and there was also another indictment in American named Pineda Pineda no till to Pineda the one from California. He might also be Portuguese. I don't know A California right who apparently got the fake IDs for these Russians so they could open bank accounts to funny Yeah

could go clubbing on us. Yeah, clubbing deals. Are it snap games? What are you talking about? Jesse. Here's a timeline for you to consider, though, regarding this indictment. While, yes, this indictment does not tie anyone in the Trump campaign by name. It does mention three of his operatives. But think about this. Trump tweeted Friday after the news of the indictments broke that Russia had started their anti-US campaign in 2014

Long before I announced I would run for president He said this hoping that you'd all think that he had nothing to do with this arm of the investigation But Trump told the Russians he'd been running for president in November of 2013 He's when he told the, he was running for president. Cohen, the guy who paid Storngadaniels $130,000 out of his pocket, that's a big pocket. He did an interview with the New York Post saying he had started polling for a Trump run.

That was in spring of 2013. Within weeks, Russia bid for the Miss Universe pageant, which they overpaid $20 million for. Interesting. There's a ton of evidence for this, including tweets from Russian delegates that were supposed to meet him at the pageant that ended up meeting him at the pageant. Within weeks of that deal, the Russian operation covered in this indictment began. Within weeks, this 2014, it's great. Then again, I believe Mueller will be able to tie Trump directly to the operation mentioned

in these indictments. There was a very telling statement in the indictments that read quote Russian defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other and with persons known and unknown to the Grand jury to defraud the United States. Okay. To me that says this indictment is about known unwitting Americans, but there are more indictments that are unknown. Unknown people that the Russians conspired with. Yeah, also the unwitting phrase sort of sent off an alarm in my heart for a second because it says like, oh no, is that him admitting that all, or you know, saying that all of these Trump campaign officials were unwitting. No I don't think so though. No because this a tiny piece

in complex as it is a tiny kind of almost insignificant piece in this giant yes puzzle because what I came to these are 13 dudes who came up dressed up like Americans learned to talk like Americans got fake ideas from this student California and hung around and tried to do campaign rallies and get people to dress up like Hillary Clinton and a prison uniform in a cage. They did this. These weren't the top level emerald that were conspiring with Trump. Yeah, but they may have been conspiring with Analytica, the what's it called Cambridge Analytica, the, what's it called? Cambridge Analytica, which is a Christianers company.

But, yeah, you're exactly right. Yeah, and also we should include a link. I saw a link that actually had the actual Facebook ads that Russia had used. Oh, the Hill and the Devil or something. Yeah, just really, like, very graphically detailed. I remember thinking like, wow, American sucks. Like, this is really awful, but it was probably the Russians exaggerating our hatred yeah I was crazy but but but yeah the but then I had this thought when I read the unwitting

line that there's no way that special counsel is going to let well he's yeah he's not gonna give us any clues as to the findings of the other ongoing investigation within that small room. Right. Hey, let's see who thinks they're safe. Yeah, well, not only that, but he's not going to tip his car. He's just using that right now. Yeah.

So whatever they say, it's not the whole thing. These indictments serve two purposes. Just fortify a broad dozen signs job. And to tell Trump that the question was, they're still plenty in time. The rest of it. And that's why he was very careful to say, this indictment doesn't allegedly say this indictment,

doesn't allegedly say this. Otherwise, he would have said something completely different. Exactly. That makes sense. And it's important to note, Trump has not denounced the Russian interference yet, nor has he moved to impose the sanctions that Congress overwhelmingly passed. So instead of coming out and saying, if they did,

I don't want to have anything to do with it. And we need to get to the bottom of it. No, he's just like, silent, dick, and small, and I don't know. Oh, that's right. And no collusion, collusion, and my dodges are falling out. Yeah. He has also been caught in these Twitter wars sort of in the past saying that the whole thing was a hoax through Russian Investigation.

Oh, yeah. His speech have not ended well. There's a whole reddit dedicated to like Trump twigs that don't control. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but now he's now he almost suspiciously is saying, well I said that it was either the Russians or the Chinese or the judges. It was A, B or C, you know, you miss him credit. Multiple choice. Yeah, that's like wasn't it Tuesday

No, it was Wednesday. That's why I said wasn't it All right you guys time for questions and comments. Yeah, Marsha's navely secretly hopes that I'm actually James Comey speaking in a really high voice I would be cool SDG girl promised us some of her mom's homie burritos. Yeah Thank you Chris Bliss asked our opinion on Drew and Bernstein saying, Drew and Bernstein reported saying that the Trump investigation is nothing like Watergate, but that he had found many parallels.

And I agree, there are parallels. I think that's the reason that Bernstein and Drew are saying that this is not anything like Watergate is because it's 10 million times worse Yeah, watergate was Americans against Americans. Mm-hmm. This is foreign enemies. Yeah, this is exactly this foreign entity. So That's a little different. Yeah bigger At Melanie, Marquita asked us to give a shout out to Philip mud. Philip mud is an axe FBI agent who came on after the shooting and lost his composure. I don't know if you remember watching him saying, this was a child of God, these were children of God, and then he couldn't speak anymore.

But he is a commentator, a lot on CNN, MSNBC, and he's just a fantastic Public servant and I do wanted I do want to get my shout out So thank you for pointing that out. She also asked what we thought of the sweets and indictments And if they could foreshadow anything for chamber jane elitica, and that's what I was telling you earlier I think that they do so I mean If you think about again the chamber jane elitica and all that stuff with the Kushner Conspiracies as I mentioned in this indictment, again, these are just 13 dudes. Totally. Well, not totally, except for the other.

They are separate. I'm not sure how involved Camerjana Lentica was, but there are other things that Camerjana Lentica was deeply involved. Yeah, I like the pillars idea you were saying. It's like you want to have several pillars. One of five of one of three. Yeah. At verbal jungle, as to what, what Camila Harris left here?

Yeah. She got, okay. Verbal jungle asked us about what Camila Harris brought up in the opening hearing with the IC directors. That opened, you know, the open hearing with all the heads of the FBI. Yeah. When she went in on them.

Yeah. She asked if Trump could declassify Russia intel given to him by sources outside the Mueller investigation. I think that he has. That's what the new Nizh Memo was. Oh, yeah. He was given that information from the House Intelligence Committee that came outside the Mueller investigation.

DOJ and FBI gave him that intelligence. It hopes that he wouldn't share it with anyone. Right. But he did that. And I think he could again. It would be ill-advised, though, as it would just continue to add to his mountain of obstruction of justice charge. Yeah. At pragmatic hippie, wanted to know if there's no one willing to prosecute a crime, does

it go away? Or does it stay a pending case? Well, with the grand jury, the grand jury is the one who decides whether a crime is, there's enough evidence to take it to trial. If there's not, the grand jury will not indict. Right. So that's pretty much what an indictment is. I mean, do you remember all of these unarmed black teenager

shootings where they take the cop to the grand jury and the grand jury does not indict them? They fail to indict them. They fail to indict them saying we don't have enough evidence. That's kind of where the decision point is. Okay. In that level, yeah. So if the grand jury indicts someone, they believe there is enough evidence to take it

to trial. Wow. And it will go to trial. Yeah. We helped out Nama Havif. She had a job interview. And I wanted to recognize her Because she said that they brought up gates flipping and she brought up our podcast and sounded like a boss

I love it. That's what we're here for you guys just do some of the conversations in this particular episode might not be appropriate for But you know, I'm gonna let you decide what you think is appropriate. What's not appropriate? But I did want to recognize her national anti-hunger advocacy organization. They're called mazon.org M-A-Z-O-N.org. Please check them out. So they want to help the people of all faith and all erases and nations around the world. Yeah. That's amazing. Awesome. Robert Hawks on Facebook asked if we think there's any chance Trump could end up in Chelsea Manning's old prison cell. Oh! Honey, uh, Jason Doolos won.

Asked if we think the recent indictments make it hard to fire, wasn't starting Mueller, as they said earlier. Yes, that was probably one of the main reasons. Yeah. So somebody else asked me, why do we love so hard on Comey when he handled the election when he hamps, excuse me, someone else asked why do you guys love so hard on Comey when he handed the election to Trump by announcing the reopening of the investigation? That's a fair question. When he did that reporting, the letter was sent to Congress and Congress was going to release

it to the public and James Comey had to get out in front of it. Comey didn't want that to get out to the public. Okay. Okay. That wasn't his choice. Yeah. When he found out Congress had it, he said, shit, now I have to do this. And he did his best to handle it. Yeah.

So, I was just going to say, I have no reason to believe to really believe that it was, you know, a politically motivated move when he did release those emails. And I think it was just him doing whatever duties he had to do as the FBI director at the time. His hands were tied. If it's getting ahead of the story like he did for the interest of the faith in the FBI, which the country is something. Well, he didn't want to release it. But someone else had it.

Right. He didn't release it. And then he had to be transparent. Yes, right. And he still apologizes. He still feels very uncomfortable in that situation. Also, the timing of it, while yes, it was really awful and affected the outcome of the election potentially,

it's still something that should have been investigated. I still believe it should have been investigated. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. So it would have come out if he hadn't brought it out anyway. Yeah. All right, well, you guys, really good questions this week. Thank you for your questions. Keep them coming. Now it's time for the indictment fantasy league. All right, I get a point this week. I get a point this

week. I had a bunch of Russians on my list. We have a bunch of Russians that were indicted. Granted, they'll never face trial or extradition, but getting those guys into court was not more than 10, as I said before. So thank you, I get my point. Because of 13, I think constitutes a bunch of Russia. Yes. All right, thank you very much. And I don't think anything's gonna change this week except you guys sabotage. Oh, I can't wait. way. Gates flipped. This came out this morning Sunday morning.

Man of Fort is fucked. Yeah. Can you put an echo on that fuck? Oh, you got it. I would just be drawn out. Yeah. Like, yeah, well, so you're the whole seat, but you only need the edge edge edge edge. Yeah.

Well, one more time. One more time. Man of Fort is fucked And one wonders if all of this isn't just to get Man of Fort to flip on the Trump tower Yes The he's been hard to roll that man of Fort, but now they've got gates and things are heating up So keep listening. Yeah, that's his like you remember do you remember when it was popodopolis and we were thinking oh, Gates and Maniford aren't gonna play that. Yeah. Gates has flipped. So there's what you do. You keep moving up the ladder. They're making moves. You get the top dog to flip. You guys, this has been awesome. This has been one of my favorite episodes. Happy sweet 16. I've been AG. I've been Jordan Coburn. I'm Jelisa Johnson. This has been Muller She Wrote.

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