Jack - Best Of Season One (Q&A)

Episode Date: June 8, 2018

BONUS - This week, we give you a compilation of the best of our Q&A segments from season one. Enjoy! ...

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Starting point is 00:00:31 education system. We'll see you there. Hello, welcome to Mollarshi Road. This is A.G. with me as always is Jolissa Johnson. Hello. And Jordan Coburn. Hello. And we thought it'd be fun to cut together some moments from the first season for you guys as a thank you for listening So these come from our Q&A segments and we hope you enjoy them this podcast may contain laughter So to be clear mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what I think that's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I have been called a surrogate at a time, a true in that campaign, and I didn't have and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for? I have nothing to do with Putin? I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening,
Starting point is 00:01:32 I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So it is political. You're a communist. No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Hello, welcome to Muller She Wrote.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I wanted to take a moment and thank you all so much for all your comments and supports and likes and donations. We're so humbled by your interest and support. We love your feedback. So thank you so much for that you guys. How are you guys this week? Good, yeah. you're nice I'm nice yes nice I had a guy tell me to get on the pole last night at a mic though oh like this triple pole the mic stands the voting pole oh so you get to those poles that's what he was doing. He wanted you to vote, Jordan. My mistake, sorry. What is your vote? Kind of stranger. Yeah. All right, so if you horrible if they didn't, let's get to questions and comments. Right. Like, we're just gonna be called liberation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:38 We'll be allows like, Trent, like, trial workers to make her clothes. That's, that's make America great again. That's what that is. Yeah, that is. clothes. That's make America great again. That's what that is. And I also think that maybe Trump could come out with a line of neck ties called alleged mob ties. I think that would be good. All right, so we got questions and comments up the booty this week.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I'm very excited. We're catching on. Jerry at JC Duelos1 tweeted, quote, Scott work in one said, if Manifort flips, he predicts Trump will resign within two weeks. What do you think? That wouldn't stop Mueller's investigation, would it?
Starting point is 00:03:12 If Manifort flips, I don't know. I think we'd be hard pressed to see Trump resign for anything. Yeah. Although, hmm, I don't know, that's tough. That would be a game changer for sure, because if you resign the office, then you are susceptible to criminal prosecution. Exactly, so you can go to jail.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, yeah. So what I do is I would put the heat on this investigation like no other thing has done, but yeah, it doesn't guarantee that Trump will give in. I would stay in the White House because we don't know if you can indict a sitting president and put him in jail, but we do know that if he's not, he can go, we've never had a president voted out by both the House and the Senate, right?
Starting point is 00:03:56 No, we've never had, so we've had a president, we've had president and peach, but they, yeah, only one resigned. One resigned and one stayed. Wow. Yeah, Trump wouldn't leave. I don't think so. No matter what. I will stay as long as he can. resigned and one stayed. Wow. Yeah, Trump wouldn't leave. I don't think so. No matter what. I will stay as long as he can.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I think so too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think also, I'm very invested in this idea that Maniford is honestly just running from Putin at this point or trying to keep himself safe from being. Yeah. Got questions coming up.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, because Putin's a crazy fuck. Yeah. He's a madman. At Elon Guido, we might die. Like, I just like Elon Guido. That's like the Mexican Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Oh, yeah. Or the Italian, excuse me, the Italian, like a member father, Guido Sarducci, no, you don't, you guys are in your 20s. Quote, there has been a flurry of news recently. Any chance this means the timetable for the investigation is gonna end sooner than midterm elections or does this mean it will take longer than expected. Normally, an investigation of this type takes 18 months.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Gosh, your guess is as good as mine. I don't think that all this stuff would be leaking right now if he weren't close to getting all the evidence he needs, but putting together cases and indictments can take a while. And then we also have the trials. The Manafort trial is the first trial for this whole thing. And it is even start till September. And he's ready for it, though. So we have the trials. The Manifort trial is the first trial for this whole thing, and it doesn't even start till September. And he's ready for it, though. So we'll note that, he is ready.
Starting point is 00:05:08 So I think, yeah, he's ready to go. But I think what would matter here is what is your definition of ending this investigation? Right. Is it inditing Trump? Is it Trump leaving? Is it all the trials are done and wrapped up? I'd say any of those things,
Starting point is 00:05:24 what to me seem like the beginning of the end, yeah. Well, but when is it over? Yeah, I honestly think at the point that Mueller has thoroughly investigated every lead that he has deemed legitimate and whatever conclusions he comes to. That's when I would be... I'm including the trials necessarily,
Starting point is 00:05:42 but just the presentation. No, definitely definitely the trials is, I don't know what word presentation is But I said it no definitely trials is well. Everything's over people are sentenced all of his proceedings are done That's gonna be end of 2019. Yeah, I think I think we're gonna go for a while and at least I hope so because you know We need advertisers that job security. Yeah That's the most terrible what we're gonna do when this is done. Oh God That's the most terrible. What are we gonna do when this is done? Oh, God. That's the most terrible reason for, at all, to do any of this.
Starting point is 00:06:09 This is not why I do this. I just have to go fiction. I hope you guys show that. This is not why I do this. I write, yeah. All right, but seriously, what we, what I know what we're gonna do, we're gonna continue justice and politics
Starting point is 00:06:21 when we're done with this. It'll still be more sure. Yeah, this, true. This is America after all. It'll still be more sure. This is America after all It'll still be Mola. She wrote, but I want to continue on with justice in politics Yeah, I think it's a really worthwhile cause definitely this is a big moment in our podcast Yeah, join me won't you at the end of 2019? Yeah Seth Taylor asked is it's at Seth underscore Taylor asked is anybody gonna get that Russian girl in Thailand?
Starting point is 00:06:44 I hope so please he actually said is anyone gonna vet that Russian girl in Thailand But I don't know if that was the typo or if he meant is are they gonna oh are they gonna vet her credibility? That's a brilliant typo absolutely. Yeah, both both makes sense I I kind of hope so get or vet either one. Yeah, I think they get her and vet her Yeah, yeah, or I don't think I hope because personally, again, I said if I was more than I'm never even going to ever be close to that guy. But if I were, I would be like, she says she has audio and video, it's worth a check. I'm going to see what I can do to bring her over here. If I can't, I try it. If I can, I'm going to see
Starting point is 00:07:21 what her profile is. And I can offer her a deal if it's worthwhile or I can send her back to Russia if she played me. Yeah, exactly. So Hannah at Stop the Old Woman asked, it's Stop T-H-T Old Woman. Okay. Asked if Trump is distancing himself from Ivanka and Jared because Miller is circling Jared.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Well, he did say try to stay in there as long as you can, right? And with hope out the door, who's left to cover up? Exactly. I think he wants to keep, whoever he can that he trusts, close to him, which wouldn't, like you said, just be Ivanka and Jared now. But I mean, I think he secretly hates Jared. I think that's pretty awesome. It's hard to tell because he told Kelly to get rid of them and then he told them, don't
Starting point is 00:08:08 listen to Kelly. Yeah. I think this is one of the situations where it's truly impossible to determine what he's thinking, which is most of the time, whether it's gun legislation or DACA or budget or anything. None of us know. And it's been said by top senators on both sides of the aisle.
Starting point is 00:08:27 We have no idea what he wants. Exactly. And we have no clear guidance from the White House. And I just think this is another one of those situations. Yeah, you don't have a feeling in your good. Oh, in my gut, I think he's probably gonna, I think he'll probably get rid of Kelly and let Jared stay. That would be crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I also heard on NPR that he has the ability to essentially just, I don't know, pardon isn't the right word, but just overlook the fact that he's not allowed to look at that and then just show it to him. He can keep Jared there. He can show Jared that he can show whatever he wants. He can show me the presidential daily brief if he wants to.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah. Sadly, I am not a Russian sex worker. Yeah. One day, would I be here doing this if I was? Maybe. You never know. But I could who are you? I could work for three people who is AG really. At Mad Scientist Pod, this is another podcast who follows us. I like these guys cool a lot. They want to know what's going on. Or sorry, they just want to know what's going on. No, what's going to happen to all the Republicans that back Trump, if this thing goes badly for Trump, will the Republicans stay in power?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Jordan, you have an answer. Oh, sorry, yeah, I got really excited. I was thinking she was gonna be, I snapped and put my hand up. I love it. Yeah, well, this is, I thought that she was gonna say just Republican base, not actual Republican officials. So, she even said politicians.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah, what do you think? What do you think? Well, if it was the base I was gonna say, I think like A.G. brought up earlier, it's gonna take, you can't flip, you just can't flip people sometimes. Not that easily. Because Trump has said one correct thing and his in his tenure as a campaign
Starting point is 00:10:10 Person and as president. He said I could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and my followers wouldn't care Saying that that is the one correct thing. He said oh, he knows what yeah Well, and and this is what I think is more important too. It's even like the people that Trump and his cabinet members are beholden to just domestically, regardless of our foreign, Russian contacts, is those people were beholden to these other organizations before.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Exactly. The same Republicans. Yeah. I'm essentially just saying that I think the lobbying organizations that exist right now that have had control over the GOP for decades and decades are going to continue to and that element of it isn't going to change basically. But what the Republicans that are in power right now will do is first of all lose that power I think that the midterm elections is gonna be and and and this isn't bragging because every first every first midterm The the party in power a little bit power. Yeah, a lot of experience that I think that yeah every president pretty much has but I think that this is gonna be a
Starting point is 00:11:20 record-breaking shift yeah, we have almost 12 times as many people running for Democratic seats. But anyway, what I think is gonna happen with these Republicans is they're gonna is like Lindsey Graham and Chuck Grassley and all these guys are gonna be like, when Mueller comes out with what he comes out with,
Starting point is 00:11:41 they're gonna be like, I had no idea. Get rid of him now. Yeah, most likely. Oh, and they'll need a fainting couch when they'll clutch their pearls. But I believe the people, I wanna believe the people will not buy it. I think it's pretty clear right now
Starting point is 00:11:56 that there is no person in the house GOP that is speaking up and calling Trump out for his crap now. So in a year. Mueller is untouchable, Mueller isn't the news saying these things are happening. Mueller is Mueller. He was appointed by Bush, right? Yes. And then Obama offered him an additional two years and it took an act of Congress to extend his tenure. Exactly. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And Congress voted 100 to nothing. The Senate voted 100 to nothing to extend him because he is so sexy. Good. So what's the big deal now? And that was a Republican Congress. Yeah, I wonder what is making them. So I think that well, because they have to back the president because the president has Has put in the screws to to them and until something big enough comes out that they can stand behind and go oh
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah, I'm on their side now. Oh, it hasn't happened yet. They don't have it. Oh, God. Just fucking sheep Sweet that PP tape now all right speaking to that, there's a question coming up soon about that. That's pretty funny. That's fun. Katinka. A long time ago. Katinka, LJW90631 asks, do you think Maniford is fighting
Starting point is 00:13:13 the charges because he's more afraid of Russian thugs coming after him, Polonium poisoning him, for example, more than he fears jail time. Yes, yes, at the end. Yeah, I don't think he's going to flip. If he flips flips that's incredible He's he if he flips he's offered some sort of miff-sud Kind of disappearing at invincibility or something that's that where they'll have so much crazy underground basement that he's happy with
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah, live in forever All right, so she also asked if we think Mueller purposefully leaks these selected stories to pressure certain people And yes, not only do I think you leak some to pressure certain people I think you leaks them to send messages like mr. Trump the Russians did metal Yeah, yeah, or whatever these are I think he he doesn't have to release any of these in diet Yeah, so when he does it has a reason behind it. Yeah, I would like to believe he's not actively leaking things with that in mind More so just being like I going to be more relaxed on this one. Oh, like, yeah, go ahead and release it. Do it with it. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know which is wrong. He's got a team of
Starting point is 00:14:14 people that are just as like, you know, invested in there's a legit way to do that. You can put a gag order on anyone that you interview. And so you're not allowed to talk to the press or Congress. You cannot put a gag order on those people. Right. Either way, you're not allowed to talk to the press or Congress. You cannot put a gag order on those people. Right. Either way you're making a statement. I don't know about that. I don't know about the Congress thing. But my point about the leaks is leaking to the press. Yeah. It's conscious. Muller can say you aren't allowed. Yeah. He can gag you. Yeah. Or I'm just not gagging
Starting point is 00:14:42 you. Just want to let you know you're not on any sort of order to not talk about this to the press. That's the legal way to do it. I think, yes, I think everything's on purpose. Kevin Plants wants to know when Mueller finalizes everything, will there be a congressional showdown or just handcuffed city? I don't think there'll be handcuffed city. Yeah, it has nice.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I'm not sure there'll be a congressional show. Yeah, it has nice. That would be. I'm not sure there'll be a congressional showdown. Like I said, I actually think that if Mueller comes out with enough substantial evidence that will give Republicans in Congress the out that they need to defy Trump and say, I never wanted to like this guy think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:20 I really think that that's going to be like the big sigh of relief in the room. That's why when Mueller was appointed, all the Republicans in Congress were like Yes, I support this. Yeah Well, because at that point what are you even fighting for now? It's it wouldn't even make any sense to support him. Yeah, exactly. No, and at this point He's toxic if he supports your campaign. So it's not like you're trying to get reelected having
Starting point is 00:15:40 Reuse here Genelle 5 Hampton, five. At five hundred five. She says, quote, doubtless there are camas throughout Trump Tower. It is naive to think that they've been ordered to maintain them. Who, if anyone is entitled to view or seize them,
Starting point is 00:15:56 the meeting with Veselnetskaya and where they all went after was surely recorded. Yes, yes, and yes. Muller can subpoena those. And the really interesting thing is, is if anyone tries to destroy that evidence, or it's made not available, you could be charged with misprision,
Starting point is 00:16:12 covering up a felony, a no-felleted, or obstruction of justice, by witness tampering or evidence tampering. So that would be great if they did that. So he either has the tapes, or he's got a next charge on everybody, got rid of them. Don Jay shit hole, ask.
Starting point is 00:16:32 If it's found the NRI knowingly took Russian money for the 2016 election, does this open everyone involved to a Rico case? Oh yeah, Armando was asking you about this too. Rico, you have to have two felonies going on. So there would have to be bribery and something else like money laundering. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It could happen. Yeah, it's likely. It didn't. I think so. It depends on what happens. Right. Uh, at science versus Trump says, do you think hope is cooperating? The fact she answered no questions reminds me of when Banda answered no questions because
Starting point is 00:17:03 the interviews he was doing with Muller is that why she resigned. I don't I don't know if it's why she resigned, but I do think personally, and this is just a theory that they are gagged and they're not allowed to they they've been told by Mueller don't don't answer congress questions. I'll I'll give you immunity. Very nice. You'll be fine. At POSUT, TRUMP, who will be indicted next, when and what will the charges be? It'll be the Russians. It'll be campaign fraud. It'll be the computer act and it'll be conspiracy against the United States. Nice. At app-fleger, a-p-f-l-i-g-e-r, says, please explain straight up what the fuck a p-tap is. It never occurred to me, you guys don't know what the p-tapes is.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Basically when Russia, when Russia was in Trump, that kind of, when Trump was in Russia in 2013, he stated the Ritz, Carlton, and there's cameras in the rooms. Russia always puts cameras in every hotel room that they have. And apparently he had some prostitutes in that room, Carlton and there's cameras in the rooms Russia always puts cameras in every hotel room that they have and apparently He had some prostitutes in that room and they peed on him and Peed on the bed because he wanted them to pee on the bed that Obama slept in that's the pee tape
Starting point is 00:18:14 Which I mean honestly, it's funny that he would even hide that because he said he's too much of a germaphobe But I'm like that is relatable to like half of America So he just came out with that and didn't run for presidency. That would be great. This selective germaphobe, if a prostitute's peon on you, all bats are off. Yeah. At me, I am see.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Because it's like, sorry. But the pete tapes being released don't even really mean anything, other than just like hilarious. People are human. Exactly. It's so funny. At Mel, MCB23, 23 is my favorite number. Good job. Sad quote, Hope Hicks kept a diary. Could Mueller subpoena it?
Starting point is 00:18:51 He probably already has it, honestly. If not, I would think he could get it. I mean, she could be guilty and facing charges of obstruction of justice because of her work on covering up the Trump Tower meeting. So Mueller likely has leverage to force cooperation. Yeah, yeah. That's why I put her on the plea deal from the innocent witness. Exactly. At Miami Nice 57, asked if Mueller could use the fact
Starting point is 00:19:15 the NSA chief testified that D-O, can Mueller use the fact that the NSA chief testified that Donald Trump has not instructed them to deter or retaliate against Russia for continued attacks. I don't think so. I think not imposing sanctions and not doing anything about Russia. It could be criminal negligence, but I don't think it goes toward any sort of obstruction. You're not obstructing.
Starting point is 00:19:43 You're not obstructing. You're not impeding. You're just letting. But we might have new laws after this. Hopefully that would make it so. At slash in me wants to know, where in the world is Rudy Giuliani? Where in the world is Rudy Giuliani? I forget the name.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Who is Rudy Giuliani? Oh, no. He ran, he was running for president in like 2008. I think New York governor during 9-11, law firm guy, just a dick. Super tough on security. He was the guy who did the stop and frisk stuff. Oh, so we don't need him anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Got it, got it. But yeah, where is he? Yeah, no, I don't know. He's been missing. He's been MIA. Like, there hasn't been any stories on him. So, wait, what office does he hold right now? None. Okay. Nice. But he did work at the law firm that Vanderswan worked at during the Whitewashing report of the Temeschenko Jailing for Yenne
Starting point is 00:20:37 Covitch that Manafort and Gates put together where they had that 2013 meeting with Rorobacher and the three Europeans. My god, how did I just do that? Seriously? Rora Bacher, that's the name I was trying to... Yeah. There you go. Just put you on display.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I really don't. I'm interested now. So yeah, thanks for bringing him up. Where did it go? Yeah, because he, him and Rick Perry, I feel, are kindred spirits sort of. And they were on the day Us running for president in 2016 against Trump. Oh, okay. Okay. I think Rudy Giuliani was up there I don't know there was like 16 people. It's hard to remember
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Starting point is 00:22:02 Oh, it's called Feife. I say cofepi. Am I wrong? I like faith. I like faith. I like faith. Two. Yeah. Yeah. Just got a nice. I'll say it's washing us to it that I appreciate. So it's a cafe of obstructions. At Jen the NAB asked us to set up a secret Facebook group for patrons. So we set that up. So if you're a patron and you subscribe, join us on that Facebook page. If you're not, it's just a dollar. You can do it.
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Starting point is 00:22:37 about the Tillerson thing. And I told him I thought Trump probably agreed to pay none very legal fees if he went nuts on TV. That's where that conversation came from. I do. I think Trump was like, dude, I'll give you a million dollars if you distract from the fact that Russia hired our Secretary of State.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And it worked. Technically, he did distract us from that article. That was a great article too. Yeah, I'm glad you covered it. We're gonna be doing it in the mini-sode this week. Oh, we didn't go in depth, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just covered the little tip of the iceberg Mm-hmm. I want to give a shout out to hellbent podcast and their helians. Yeah
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Starting point is 00:24:30 It's kind of weird listening to yourself. It's Kevin, right? Thank you, Kevin. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. At Penn Umbrely, aka Fitzwilliam, asked us, how long can this go on? In reference to how long can Trump's lawyers
Starting point is 00:24:44 negotiate Trump's interview. Okay, okay. I thought he was like, I can't take it. How long? So they can really drag this out pretty much as long as they want, but at some point I assume Mueller will start pushing pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony, Cripole or Cripole? Cripole. I'm going to skirmann it. Yeah. Cripole. Quote easy to digest episodes that are simple yet complex. Just the facts at first, then speculation as to what those facts mean. Catch up on Papa Dot, Mueller Time, and everybody's honey.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I'm sorry. Everybody's homey. Comey. Yeah. On Mueller She wrote. Wooly, my honey. Thanks, Sam. Oh, well, hi.
Starting point is 00:25:23 All of us. Yeah, we all went. Anthony got a shirt. Actually, he's a whistleblower. Hey, thanks Anthony. That's a subscriber level for those of you that don't know. You get everything. You get, I'm only sure, a tote. Well, it's a little bag, a reusable bag. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:25:35 It's stickers, a t-shirt, a newsletter. Yeah. Community on the pink spoon. You get pimped out, man. It's nice. You do, and our sexy Justice calendar. We're just putting it together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Final touches. Mm-hmm. And that'll be out. I think we're gonna start it in June or July, so you have enough time to get them. Yes, some are time for sure. Mm-hmm. Because this is going on for a while.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Oh yeah. Buckle up. That guy's name has like anywhere. Yeah. In fact, what, you know, when I was talking about Manafort's trials, he's got his first one coming up in September and the one for Virginia District Court. They didn't set a date yet,
Starting point is 00:26:06 but it was funny because the defense asked, Manafort's lawyers were like, if we had our wish, our wildest dreams come true, it would be in November, and he's like, well, you know. I just know. That's not gonna happen. And it was really, it was kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:26:23 That would be perfect. No, not gonna happen. Yeah, it's gonna be crazy fall anyways. Regardless what happens, it's gonna be it was kind of funny. That would be perfect. No, not gonna happen. Yeah, it's gonna be crazy fall anyways. Regardless what happens, it's gonna be a crazy midterm season. It is and we're gonna do some sort of, we're gonna figure out how to do this, but we're gonna broadcast live for the midterm
Starting point is 00:26:34 last year. Yes, I thought you guys would be interested in knowing that. Mark your calendars now. I mean, and vote. Yeah, get in those polls. Yeah. Now, I also wanted to give a shout out to Rachel Maddo.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I know you listen, I know you're listening. You and your fabulous neck. But damn you to hell with your themeless Friday New York Times Crossword puzzle. You woman, you she devil. Oh, you use it. Nice. Well, I do the crossword.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I do the New York Times Crossword. That's awesome. And hers, she made one. Yeah. And it was so hard. She's a very smart cookie man. I don't damn you. Maaah.
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Starting point is 00:27:37 At T Trillion, asks about the DT Junior divorce. Wouldn't any Trump have a prenup or is that why people are assuming they're hiding assets? If that is what they're trying, is that a crime? Who do they think they're fooling? Also, when you come to DC, will you have a meetup or is that illegal? First.
Starting point is 00:27:55 First, awesome name. I'm a huge Douglas Adams fan, so yay for Trillian. Yes, that every Trump probably does have a prenup. There is a fraudulent transfer law that prohibits people from intentionally transferring assets to avoid a creditor. There's legal ways to do it. I'm sure I'm not a lawyer, but I would assume their new criminal defense attorney will help them
Starting point is 00:28:15 navigate that. We talked about this earlier. If they break the law, Mueller will get his asset forfeiture, but one way or the other. So at Citizen Dane said, shift status report hinted at trying to continue the investigation anyway. Does that hinge entirely on retaking the house? Is there anything the minority can do
Starting point is 00:28:33 between now and January? Well, Swalls is trying to set up an independent commission, like the 9-11 commission to continue the work because it's too partisan, he said, in the Intel committee, House Intel committee, but they need 22 Republicans and they only have two. So it's not likely. I don't think they can unilaterally continue their investigation
Starting point is 00:28:52 because of the rules of the committee. So I think the investigation will stall until we flip the house. Mueller marches on though, so, and we still have the Senate for now. Yes. At Yeagerman wants to know what mechanisms may be in place to facilitate the ongoing integrity of the investigation should Mueller be fired? Are there already sealed indictments?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Parallel collaboration with state AGs? Well, yes. Well, there are seven sealed indictments right now on the docket. I don't know who they are. Three of, they might be Russians, because we're still rating for the other Russian indictments to come.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Right. But check out this recent thread by Greg Olen on Twitter. He says, quote, the minute sessions is fired, Mueller's contingency plan goes into effect. He's known since literally day one that Trump wanted to fire him. One of the obstruction charges is about Trump wanting
Starting point is 00:29:39 to fire him. Do you really think Bobby Three sticks isn't ready? Right. So I'm very comforted by the fact that he has thought every possible scenario out. He's had to. This is what he does. Yep. At Big Frog 619 says, what is your prediction about the end game?
Starting point is 00:29:58 I believe there will be the revelation that Trump is heavily in debt to Russia. Well, there's three lanes here, right? Abstruction, collusion, and money laundering tax fraud. I think the recent subpoena of Trump property's Trump organization indicates Trump has failed to hand over documents voluntarily so that results in the ultimate obstruction. For collusion, the ties between the Trump campaign and the hacking and subsequent dissemination of HRC emails will show conspiracy. It has to be conspiracy, right?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Because collusion is not illegal. Correct. Conspiracy against the United States. And then there will be a zillion charges in tax evasion and money laundering, with all sorts of Russians and the United Arab Emirates, embizzo, shell companies. At poop weasel, that's my favorite, asks what info Mueller is seeking through the subpoena of the Trump organization. As I said, I think he's seeking what Trump failed to turn over in the voluntary request.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I think mostly it's about the Trump-Tarrow Moscow, but it could really be about anything. Mueller has evidence of that Trump didn't hand over. Maybe his taxes. Yeah. Or, I mean, I imagine anywhere that company is, there is potential things to discover. Yeah. It's got to be so endless. At JC Duelos, one asked with the House and Telecomities shutting down the investigation,
Starting point is 00:31:10 can you explain the differences with these committees? Are there any ramifications? And can they prosecute people? There's four congressional committees that are looking into this. There's the House Intelligence. There's the House Judiciary. There's a Senate Intelligence
Starting point is 00:31:23 in the Senate Judiciary. None of them have prosecutorial powers. They're there to investigate and divulge to the public what's going on. Are there any ramifications? Can they prosecute people? The congressional committees don't have prosecutorial power. Mueller has prosecutorial power. The Congress, as Jordan was saying earlier, is just there to kind of investigate and tell the public, protect the public and let the public know. That's not what Mueller does. Mueller keeps everything a secret
Starting point is 00:31:49 and prosecutes and it doesn't. Yeah, yeah. So that's the difference there. At Seguuria said, quote, you could do two hours a day and we'd be glued to our headphones. Oh, that's very sweet. That is. At Niklaus Chatham says, quote, sound upgrade is awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And can you point me out to where you covered Obama's role in all this? This attack happened under his watch. No, yes, yes, I can. We'll cover that in depth in our book report. I was gonna say in the chapter that I read. Very nice. There's a lot of places.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I imagine, yeah, that's true. There's a lot of places Obama kind of missed the boat on Russia. He was trying to be friendly with him, but he was also, he needed their help and I ran Syria and yeah He needed three serious things from them that he was getting and he didn't want to give those up And so you know you got to let him make those decisions because he's smarter than me No, Bob. I wish we could just throw him in in the calendar just because he is on the back
Starting point is 00:32:39 or something like a bonus flat bonus flat flat Matthew or something like a little bonus flap. You have a bonus flap? It's flat. Matthew Minor on Facebook says he loves our podcast more than he loves bacon. Oh my God. Whoa. What?
Starting point is 00:32:53 That is amazing. At Surrell Woods says, quote, I actually look forward to my Monday hour on the elliptical at the gym. Now thanks to these weekly podcasts. I wish these women all lived next door to me. I'd invite them to come hang out on the couch. Ah, the porch. And have iced tea and a rocking chair
Starting point is 00:33:07 I want to do that. I love it at Steven Lacey who goes by Steven hates Nazis more than Johnny hates jazz Says quote if you want to listen to a smart informative and deliciously funny podcast that does a deep dive on the Mueller investigation Hosted by three awesome amazing women do Yourself's a favor and check this one out stat you won't be disappointed. That's like a real pro Thank you. You like review people for a living because that's oh job right there Yeah, that's like you have like a high-yelp standing. I bet very nice. That's an amazing review Yeah, at Hoki Horn Kimberly Phillips. She's an attorney friend of mine. She says
Starting point is 00:33:43 Quote, I'm not a federal government employee, but can people be fired at will? I thought that was the whole get for the government job, was that you couldn't just be fired. Yeah. So here's the thing. There's a process that you have to go through on for different offenses, and it usually goes through a verbal warning and then a verbal reprimand and then an admonishment and then a suspension and then a second suspension and then a last chance contract and then a verbal reprimand, and then an admonishment, and then a suspension, and then a second suspension, and then a last chance contract, and then you can appeal,
Starting point is 00:34:10 and then you can be fired. Wow. I had a guy, I had somebody who worked for me, a punch a hole through a wall, and exposed himself to a female, and it took a year to fire him. Louis CK worked for you? So yeah, yeah, he's a government employee, totally. Of course it was.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It's that long. They're our... You're our crazy man. But there are offenses that are immediately terminable. And apparently in the FBI, lying is one of them. Oh yeah. I have a hard time believing this because I don't know. It just feels like really?
Starting point is 00:34:44 Like I thought you had to punch a guy in a face with a margarita stem glass or something. Like I don't know, it just feels like really? I thought you had to punch a guy in a face with a margarita stem glass or something. Like I can't believe or expose yourself. That seems like it's gonna make the list of things. You think? Yeah. It was just in texts though, so it wasn't live, so it didn't count. It wasn't as egregious. I was imagining a monster just streaking through like a government building. Okay, a paint-a-picture, yeah. So at Matt 9303 asked if firing McCabe, if the firing of McCabe in the news that Cambridge Analytica stole personal information was leaked in retaliation, so he's basically asking, did the FBI leak that Cambridge Analytica, $50 million Facebook dump in retaliation for
Starting point is 00:35:23 McCabe being fired? Right. I don't think so. I think that came from employees of Cambridge Analytica, $50 million Facebook dump in retaliation from a cave being fired. Right. I don't think so. I think that came from employees of Cambridge Analytica and Facebook. I don't think it came from the FBI. Yeah. Also just a side note on the firing too. Him doing it that late at night,
Starting point is 00:35:34 I feel was really a move to try to not make it a huge publicity. Yeah. So did it. Because it's shitty. It's just that it's like, obviously he served our country for so long. I can't imagine sessions wanted to do that We talked about this to each other before
Starting point is 00:35:48 You know after we recorded last week's episode and before this one just That's a shitty position for sessions to be in kind of but he kind of has to be in it He has to do it or he could fire sessions for not firing him. Yeah. I hate that's defending Jeff sessions I know at faux pro bot wants to know who we would cast in the movie version of the Mueller investigation as Mueller Wait, wait, we love this question. So please tweet at us at Mueller She wrote with your suggestions and use the hashtag Mueller movie. It's M-U-E-L-L-E-R And we'll reveal our favorites next episode. Yeah, so wait, who are we casting? Is this for Mueller himself?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Is this for everyone? Everyone. The Mueller movie. Okay, Melissa McCarthy. It's gonna happen to each of us by a third. Can we please get her on the phone? Yeah, she's amazing. Yeah, so who would play Trump?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Who would play Mueller? Who would play Manafort? Who would play Gates? Who would play... All right, Lee Ferdinand Caprio. It's gotta get in on this ensemble. We'll figure it out. Yeah, I'll vote a thousand times.
Starting point is 00:36:48 But see him as a DTJ kind of person. Oh. Everyone from SNL, that's a shot. He would have to have prosthetic gums installed. So, Atmuller, she wrote on Twitter, hashtag, Mueller movie. Who would you cast? Hit us up. We'll call you out. We'll shout you out next week.
Starting point is 00:37:07 On the next episode we'll cast the movie. I think it'll be fun. Yeah, this is fun. We should make this movie for entertainers. Yeah, we kind of are. Yeah. At JC Duelos 1 and Christine Snyder want to know what it will take for the GOP to do something um about Trump and if there's anything drastic enough for Mueller to indict Trump on, somebody might have to shoot somebody in Fifth Avenue. I don't know. Seriously. I don't know what at this point Mueller could put in a report to Congress that would flip
Starting point is 00:37:39 Congress to impeach. I think we need to wait until we flip the Congress. We have to get rid of who's in Congress right now if we're going to impeach Trump. That's the bottom line for that. And then anything drastic enough for Mueller to indict on Trump, any law he's broken, he can indict him on, whether he feels it's, he wants to go ahead with an indictment, obstruction of justice, I think, would be enough to indict him on. If he had solid proof of obstruction of justice, which I think he does, if he had solid improvement of conspiracy against the United States, money laundering, tax fraud, he can indict him on any of those things.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And we know he's got money laundering in tax fraud. Even if you don't want to believe he's laundered money, he has tax fraud. The evidence is there. Well, we haven't seen it. Well, we believe. I believe. All right, at Mel, sorry, Mel McB23 and Anne Craig asked. Mel B.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Mel McB. Oh, great. Yeah, no. Not the co-host of the Miss Universe page in 2014. So Mel McB23 and Anne Craig ask, if Mueller would absorb the Cam Anna, the Cambridge Analytica investigation, or will a whole other investigation be created?
Starting point is 00:38:55 No, I think Mueller is. Yeah, he's already, right. Yeah, the news is he's already investigating this. Frank Dembausky asked if there was a chance man afford his flipped, but we don't know. Like, is he talking, but like, don't tell anyone I'm talking, because Putin will kill my family.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah. I don't know, maybe. Is that a possibility? But I don't think so. A little bit not likely, right? Well, I don't think so, because his trial is set for July 10. He's already pleaded not guilty, right? Right, but he could plead not guilty publicly
Starting point is 00:39:24 and privately be spilling his guts. Oh, you can do that. You can do that. But his trial dates are South for July and September in Virginia and DC respectively. If his trials get delayed, then and they're delayed by the government side, not by the defense, then there's a chance. We could look into why is that? Right, right. But there's no evidence that so far. He's pushing it back himself right now Right well he tried but they he failed so it's it's July and September yeah D9 well he got the nevermind It's he got one delayed a month and the other one he tried to delay but they pushed it up on him for months Oh my god, they should put another ankle brace on him every time it's delayed
Starting point is 00:40:01 on him four months. Oh my god. They should put another ankle brace on him every time it's delayed. I was too. Right? He's got two right now. I should have like three or four. I'm still waiting for that cartoon for somebody to draw me a man for it with like 60. Somebody did. Oh, I wish I remember their name. Someone did a picture in illustration. It was just two ankle bracelets, but we're no, I want like 80 ankle
Starting point is 00:40:18 rings. Yeah, and he needs that. Knack one from like, what was it? The running man with the normal sports. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, your head blows up. All right. SiFala, Mette asked how much longer until he's impeached. Dude, I don't know. Good question.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I don't think it's I don't think there's I don't think there's anything that he that Mueller could say that he's done and prove that this Congress would impeach him for, at least that the Senate wouldn't remove him for. Unless it affected them. No, I don't think so. I don't even think then. I think they have too much dirt on them and they have to stick behind him no matter what.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Even if he turned on them, they'd be like, you know what? He's a good guy. I don't think he would do that. He'd be impeached. The only thing that I think he would be impeached for is firing Rosenstein. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that because they've already said it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 What if they have, like you say, some of this physical evidence about sexual stuff? Oh. Like, that's what they impeached Bill Clinton over. No, no, no, no. They impeached Bill Clinton because he lied about it. Oh, interesting. And they actually impeached him. It wasn't incomplete, right? They impeached him. Oh, it just wasn't in a complete like, risk nation. It was just it. No, they actually impeach him it wasn't complete right they impeached them all it just wasn't a complete like risk nation it was just it no they fully impeached them they uh... the senate did not have enough votes to
Starting point is 00:41:30 remove got in order to impeach a president the the house impeaches and then the senate has to have a two-thirds vote to remove got it okay in order to get an hour ago impeachment removal now now now changes of that are very slim i would in, unless he fires Rosenstein. Now, Nixon, his Congress said we're going to impeach you unless you resign, and so he resigned. Okay, okay. But that's not going to happen here.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I don't think so either. Graham Lincoln wanted to know if Mueller is fired and the Dems flipped the House, could the new Democratic House Intelligence Committee interview Mueller and get him to tell him everything on the record? Why not? I mean, that would definitely be an after-math kind of situation. So I think so. Not if it's going to be a risk to national security or not if it's going to reveal sources
Starting point is 00:42:20 or methods. Okay. And I honestly don't know. First of all, Trump can't fire a muller. He'd have to fire a Rosenstein. Or he'd have to tell Rosenstein to fire a muller and Rosenstein's not going to do it. And I don't think no Elfrancisco is going to do it either
Starting point is 00:42:32 because he had that dinner. Right. And do it. And that's the next person in line. Yes. And he was seen eating with sessions on Rosenstein. And when you have dinner with somebody, you can't go against what they say.
Starting point is 00:42:43 It's the rules. Absolutely. And Washington. Okay. No, I don't go against what they say. It's the rules. Absolutely. And Washington. Okay. I don't know. So I'm not sure about that. That's an interesting thought though. Like if they fired Mueller and Mueller's just a guy.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah. Yeah. I guess civilian again. Can he testify to the new Democratic House Intelligence Committee about everything he knows? Oh, that's weird. That's a weird question. You're writing a book like Komi.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah. People have been talking about that. But it's still going to not have any details that are getting classified information. Yeah. Michael Cameron asked if any of Trump's lawyers need security clearance and if Ivanka has one, Trump's personal private lawyers do not need security clearance. They're his private lawyers. The White House lawyer needs security clearance and lawyers who work in the White House need security clearance. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:29 That's how that goes. Ivanka does not have security clearance. I've talked about this in a couple of past episodes because of her work on that Trump tower in Azerbaijan. I think that that puts her at risk. Absolutely. Jennifer Hughes asked, if I ever slip into my Trump voice,
Starting point is 00:43:44 it worked my accident. You do? No. But here's the one time I use the Trump voice when I'm not purposefully trying to do it. If I'm ever having, if I ever, you know that voice inside your head where you're like,
Starting point is 00:43:57 my thighs look crappy today, my hair looks like shit today. You can't read day. What's wrong with my wrinkles? Look at these bat wings. Whenever I start, whenever I catch myself saying bad things to myself, I start doing it in a Trump voice
Starting point is 00:44:10 and I immediately defend myself. No, you're just saying. Alison, your thighs are fat. You know what, you shut the head up. My thighs are awesome. And then all of a sudden I love myself. You know what, that's a positive thing to take out of Trump, that confidence.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah, just, I just imagine Trump criticizing me and then I have, I am super confident. That's funny. Very defensive of myself, which is nice. That's good. Last week, I asked you guys, who you thought would play the parts in the Mueller movie? We had hashtag Mueller movie.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Yes. This hashtag is still going, keep coming, but here's some great responses at Heathcliff Tatum wants John Voight to play Trump Leonardo DiCaprio to play Don Jr Which is funny because the Prime Minister of Malaysia gifted DiCaprio a Picasso for the Wolf of Wall Street Which was recently seized by the FBI because the Prime Minister of Malaysia is a dickhead. It's so funny He said he also said Paul Giamatti for Bannon. That was interesting. I like
Starting point is 00:45:08 that one. I kind of like a sideways character who's just like drinks the spit bucket of wine and dumps it on. Pig vomit, right? That's a sad thing. Reprise that character from the Howard Cern movie. Such a good one. Roger Stone should be played by McCollick Cawkins. That's a good one if you Stone should be played by McCollock and... Oh, for it. That's a good one, if you think of how weird he looks now. Definitely. Let's get the hair changed, yeah. LeVern Cox could be Amarosa.
Starting point is 00:45:34 It's so perfect. Hillary Beat Trump says on Twitter that Harvey Weinstein should have to play Trump for no money. That's funny. That's amazing. At Occasionalities, put forth my favorite for Mueller, Hugh Laurie. Who's Hugh Laurie?
Starting point is 00:45:50 House. Oh, okay, that's perfect. It's actually looks kind of like him. Who is Hugh Laurie? It's my third husband. Who is Mueller? That's Hugh Laurie. Who's playing Kushner?
Starting point is 00:46:00 Here, let's see if we get Kushner down here. Occasionalities also said Bob Odin Kirk would be a good Comey and I see that. I can see that. At Miss Elmira Gulch, that's a great name. Ask Elmira Gulch, that is an awesome name. Oh my gosh. Ask for Sarah Baker as Sarah Sanders. Yes. I feel like Sarah Sanders should be played by Elmira Gulch. Yeah. At Citizen Danes says David Lynch could be Mueller. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:31 At Long's view said Luke Wilson should be Mueller because they have that weird wide jaw thing going on. Oh, I gotta look that one up. Weird wide jaw sounds like Mueller for sure. Luke Wilson, the blonde guy would be. No, the brown hair and guy from Idiocracy. Okay, I'm thinking of his brother Yeah, yeah, I know you're thinking of Owen Wilson. Okay, Luke Wilson. Yeah, yeah, because he's got that wide job
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yeah, that's for like he's got like he's hiding nuts for the winner in his cheeks Like that. Let's see who else do we have on here? Why joth it? Oh Elena thought Sam Watterson should be Mueller. Which I think is a big mustache guy. Yeah, I've heard that a lot. Okay. At Kyle Crane says, a CGI circus should play Trump. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I think that's the guy who did golem. Oh, Andy circus. Yeah, yeah, totally. And let's see. John Hamm could be Manafort. I would be sad about that, because I love John Hamm. And Christopher Maloney could be Putin. I see that a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Who is that? That's Stabler from SVU. OK. OK. At Motel Roach, once Robert Redford is Mueller, and Ray Leota is Cohen, Gene Gaines wants Jeremy Irons' Mueller. But Jeremy Irons is always a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I don't know how I feel about that. And it's British. Yes. He could be, he could be Nick, he could be Alexander Nick. Chris Bliss wants John Hader as Eric Trump, which is perfect. That's the guy who played Napoleon. I like that. Isn't that great because he's got the teeth.
Starting point is 00:48:02 That's so good. John Hader or Bill Hader would be good Yes, either either Hader At HP down under has the perfect mooch. Okay James Franco. I think we'll be Great The puckered lips I totally and for me this week's winner this week's winner of the the Mueller movie challenge is Brandon McAllister at Brandon MC says John Dowd should be played by Timothy Spall and that is who that's the guy who plays the weasel rat guy and Harry Potter movies
Starting point is 00:48:38 Oh my god, he looks just fucking That's really good so I've got one, this is mine for Kushner, if you don't have a Kushner. Yeah, yeah, who's gonna use your Kushner? My Kushner is a grown up Edward Furlong from Terminator 2. You remember Edward Furlong? Yeah, you're gonna find him, let's track him down.
Starting point is 00:48:57 He'd be perfect for that. He'd be good, right? He's got the same kind of head. Absolutely, the eyes too. The same kind of head, yeah. Yeah, the baby head with the small head. Baby head, big giant sort of. Four head. Absolutely, the eyes too. The same kind of head. Yeah, the baby head with the smiley face. Baby head, big giant sort of forehead. And tiny face.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Something's gone wrong. It just looks really drained of all his soul. Life, yeah. Someone posted a picture of, I think it was like a dog that would play Putin. I thought that was because they're facing one dog on. Yeah, it was just like Putin. Yeah, the eyes, the BDI. She's like scallowing at you. Yeah, it did for sure. All right, Katrina Wick set on Facebook quote,
Starting point is 00:49:30 I love these ladies. I look forward to the podcast every week. It's funny, witty and informative. Thank you. Thank you. At Seguria says quote, I am probably obnoxiously big. I am a probably obnoxiously big fan of Muller. She wrote, if you're a research junkie and a Muller junkie, these folks simultaneously sit with you in the fear and chaos and guide you to a sense of understanding and hope. Weekly episodes are free, 100% worth a dollar for the extras. And Eva de la Rosa added, don't forget the sense of humor because that's why I get out of bed every goddamn day. Yeah, that's right. That's good.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I'm so glad that you said that because we don't get a lot of negative reviews, but the ones we do get all say the same thing. They say they don't like us laughing. If you've made it this far into this episode, you probably aren't one of those people, but I have a message for them. We are Mueller junkies, but above all, we are humorists. We're all comics and humorists. And as such, we find the laughter in traumatic events. And we do that to cope. Okay. Humor is what gets us through our dark times. It's
Starting point is 00:50:37 in our DNA to spin bad news and trauma into something we can all laugh about. Because I don't think it's issues that bring us together. I think it's laughter. I think it's our ability to relate on a humorous level to tragedy. I hope we can help you guys find the humor in these tragedies, so that way we can all make it through together. Yes, very well said. First, I wanted to address a tweet I got from Amanda Levitt who is at Fat Body Politics on Twitter. She wrote to us saying, quote, I'd enjoy the podcast. 100% more if they stopped using the word fat in such a negative way.
Starting point is 00:51:13 There are much better ways to talk about Trump than by calling him fat, unquote. And that's a good call. She's totally right. There are so many other things we can call him out on. I don't think that body shaming is the answer. So I agree with it 100%. So we're going to move away from that. She also suggested she made suggestions. I love that. Which I do love because I understand like I just love it when people say, Hey, there's a problem with this. And I have some solutions, you know, as opposed to just do the problem, you know. So she suggested we can use Dillhole or trash bucket.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Nice. As alternatives, I think that's great. They are. Does it look at alternatives? Yeah, I love it that she offered solutions. Thank you, Amanda, for your insights. Thanks for pointing that out. So we're very body-positive people in general.
Starting point is 00:52:00 We are, we are, we are. Would hate to project the, that we don't want to perpetuate that. We're very against that. Yeah. And I, but I think that where the rubber meets the road is that we're also comedians and shit just comes out of our mouth. And that's, that's not an excuse.
Starting point is 00:52:15 We have to be more conscious of what comes out of our mouth because it can actually, yeah, influence people. Yeah. To us, if I may speak for us, it's more so the humor of hitting him where it hurts because he's created this very fragile ego that centered around vanity. So hitting him with something that is typically vain is like entertaining to us to do, but if it's perpetuating, yeah, but if it's perpetuating negativity, we don't want to do that. No, only shame the body of his politics. Yeah, there you go. Like it. Yeah, yeah, because yeah, you're totally right. That's exactly right, Jordan. It's because like that's why I want to call him a pussy. Yeah, because even though
Starting point is 00:52:55 Pussy's are awesome and way stronger. We claim our own pussy's power and they're like like pretty amazing. It would bother him. Yep, because he doesn't see them as amazing. Yeah. So because he, I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, totally fair comment and that's awesome. Yeah. So we're going to be away from that.
Starting point is 00:53:15 We'll be more conscious of that. Thank you very much Amanda. At RJ Ailius asked if we think Mueller is holding off on indictments of the top people until a new Congress is set to impeach him. Or do you think it's because he's not got a soundproof case yet? And this is interesting. I think that he's probably got some indictments ready
Starting point is 00:53:34 to go and I think if he's not inditing people, it's because it would be giving away stuff to other people who still haven't spoken to him. Yeah, right. It could change their tune or do whatever they can away stuff to other people who still haven't spoken to him. Yeah. Right. It could change their tune or do whatever they can to try to protect themselves. It would be tickling his hand. It would be showing his cards and he doesn't want to do that yet.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I don't think he's waiting for Congress. I think he's completely apolitical. So he's like, I'm gonna do my job, the best way that I can. I might have to hold some indictments back in order to make sure that I have all the information I need on other people before I release them because they'll become public.
Starting point is 00:54:17 So, that's, I don't know, maybe he can indict people in secret. There are sealed indictments, but, yeah. It makes sense to me though what you just said that that seems anything that is strategic is what I would imagine he's doing. Yeah, anything just for sure. Yeah, yeah. Strategic. All right, at the three bucklies wants to know what are reasons for thinking Mueller
Starting point is 00:54:38 won't indict a sitting president are. And I, I'm not sure where you got that. I think he can indict a sitting president. Right. But he wouldn I'm not sure where you got that, I think he can in Daita sitting president. Right. But he wouldn't probably for the reasons you just said. Well, he might, like if he waited for some reason, and you know, might just be because that's a part of the plan. It's a part of, I mean, if that's what, like it's to the end. Right now. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. No, but he means in general. Yeah. Or they were really never right. Oh, well, yeah, I don't think he would just not do it
Starting point is 00:55:08 Yeah, he could I think if he had the Unless he for some reason thinks that it's against the law But I don't think that that's been settled exactly. Yeah, okay, so but he knows better than I do But I think he can indict a sitting president I think he might. So I don't know. We'll see. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed.
Starting point is 00:55:29 At Poop Weasel, I just have to always read a question from Poop Weasel the best thing. Asked on a scale from one to ten, how fucked is Manafort? Manafort is fucked. I think you just wanted us to say that. Also, how badly does Trump want to fire sessions? I think he desperately wants to fire sessions. That's why I think sessions came out this week, sicking the IG and a US attorney, Hubert, on the FBI.
Starting point is 00:55:59 It makes it harder for Trump to fire him, though he could fire him for not appointing a special prosecutor. I don't know. So many reasons, but he definitely wants to. Yeah, I think he does too. Making just that would be the easiest way to replace somebody above Rosenstein who can, you know, put a kai Bosch on the Mueller investigation. At B. Adler, San Diego G is wondering why people like Ronograph and Alan Weissenberg are not facing any consequences because they're the ones who have To complete all the tasks I think they're just gonna be pumped for information honestly
Starting point is 00:56:36 As long as they don't lie to the FBI They could be charged with conspiracy, but I mean I Don't know. I feel like I feel like Mueller is just going to get what he needs out of them to get the bigger folks, but he also doesn't seem like a guy who would leave any stone on turn or leave any criminal and a dieted. So I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Yeah. I wonder, can you, do you think that he would just straight up not and because can you get someone to flip if you don't indict them on anything? Can you get someone to flip You tell secrets you could offer the immunity. Yeah, like Nader. Yeah So I don't know and that might have already happened and we don't know I Think that if they committed a big enough crime and didn't have any information to give on someone else that they would be indicted.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Fair. That would be charged or whatever. It's kind of unfair that the whole flipping thing is even a thing, but it's necessary to get a bigger fish. Exactly. It is. Yeah. It's a tool.
Starting point is 00:57:43 It's a tool that prosecutors use all the time. Just even sometimes to just win a case, plead down, you know, so I a tool. Yeah, it's a tool that prosecutors use all the time Just even sometimes to just win a case plead down, you know, so I can win. Yeah, it would just be so nice If everyone could just get leveled to the degree they deserve At the deep magic asked why Rosenstein's only option is to resign if Trump asked him to fire Mueller and here's why I remember that Report we did a little a minute ago about the nine senators who sent a letter to the five people in succession of the Department of Justice saying you have to come out publicly and say that you won't fire Mueller or impede the investigation. The reason Rosenstein's only option is to resign is because he has said that publicly. That's why Rosenstein wasn't in the letter.
Starting point is 00:58:26 They weren't talking to him because he already publicly promised that he would not fire a molar unless it was for cause. And so that means he would, if Trump asked them to, he'd have to resign. You know, or Trump would fire him. So that's why. Yeah, or Trump would fire him, so that's why. At Cerelle Woods wants to know what makes white collar crimes so hard to prosecute, citing that if someone steals a honey bun from a convenience store, boom, charges are filed. But if somebody makes off with 500 million of an oligarch's cash, he's still being investigated four years later. So the answer is money.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Definitely. Yeah. And they don't forget, they have the annual what color crime symposium ever. Gotta get passes, check it out. Yeah. Yeah. And just counsel, yeah, exactly the counsel you can afford. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Manafort's lawyers are very pricey and so they can drag this out. And they know the law. Whereas most low crime or blue collar crime, you have a public defender that you're assigned and they're stretched so thin. Public defenders are amazing, but they're not, they don't have a zillion dollars and unlimited resources to work with. Yeah, if you have money, you could get the Twinkie defense
Starting point is 00:59:44 or the Honeybun defense. Yeah. The Honeybun defense. I was very psychologically disturbed at the time. I really, really needed a honeybun. Yeah, case dismissed. Have a honeybun. You've been through a lot.
Starting point is 00:59:58 If the honeybun fits, you must quit. That makes no sense. All right, it's okay. That Sam Stanton says, wants to know when Mueller will show his hand and who's gonna get the next indictment. Oh, that could just, there's so much that we don't know. I am not gonna be able to predict that correctly, but I'm still waiting for the additional Russian indictments
Starting point is 01:00:19 to drop, but he may not be able to drop those without revealing a little conspiracy with a sange and WikiLeaks, and now Cambridge Analytica is tied into it, which brings Malik and Sessions and like so many Kushner and Bannon, they bring so many people into it, he might be that whole giant ball of stuff, he's just like working on and he's waiting until he's done with all that. But so he might not be able to separate those the hack of the DNC and the Podesta emails with all that. But so he might not be able to separate those, the hack of the DNC and the Podesta emails out from that.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Gosh, everything's so entangled. It's like he's got to get to the end of every rope before he can just drop everything. Yeah. I've got to have indictment vomit all over the place. I wonder if all of these guys have a Facebook group where they just talk about. They're like, hey man.
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Starting point is 01:01:19 Yeah, like where did they hang out? Like, they can only be friends with each other. Yeah. So they must have a closed Facebook group like, yeah. Today, this dick said, I don't know, I don't want to take it. Like, yeah, that's new. And then he turned his wheels the wrong way. He didn't grant to the curb.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Oh. Some people's kids, man. Gosh. At Nix Rock said, what the fuck is a Ted Malik? Well, I think we covered that. That's exactly what you predicted. I hope if I answered that for you. Yeah, look at it.
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