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Episode Date: October 7, 2019

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What do I have to get involved with Putin for? I have nothing to do with Putin. I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So, it is political. You're a Communist! No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red hairing. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist.

Hello and welcome to Muller She Road. I'm your host A.G. and with me today are Jordan Coburn. Hello and Mandy Re A.G. and with me today are Jordan Coburn. Hello. And Mandy Reader. Hello. How are you? Good. Yeah. Party time this weekend at Steph Miller's house. Yes.

We danced. We did dance. Yep. We danced a lot. I got to meet Lily Tomlin. That blew my mind. It hasn't even really hit me yet. But what an incredible time and what a great group of people.

Yeah. If you get a chance to party with Democrats, yeah, that was fucking awesome. Yeah. It was just like such good old fashioned fun. Yeah. It was great. Live band, open bar, dogs, size of ponies.

Yeah, it was great. Mango salsa. Mm, yeah. It's a good shit. Chicken satay was good too. Yes. I enjoyed it. But we have a lot to get to this week.

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And then you also get to follow us, which is, give us your praise and affection, which is a prize in and of itself. Daily beans is going to be moving to its own, so make sure you follow it on its own feed. And yeah, and we're going to basically, in, in Muller She wrote, we're going to be looking at 2016 and, and daily beans, we're going to be looking at 2020. That's kind of how I'm splitting them up. So today's show, we're going to be looking at 2020. That's kind of how I'm splitting him up. So today's show, we're going to be talking about the NRA, the IRS, and the Ukraine clown posse. Thanks for junior bombing for that. And for the interview, we have former FBI special agent and CNN analyst Asha Rangapa. So stick around for that. And that's going to be in the C block. But before we get to the news, it's time for me to say I'm sorry.

Oh, I made a mistake. From Jamie Barnett, Finland is not Scandinavian. Scandinavia refers to Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. Some argue that the Faroe Islands, Finland, and Iceland are part of it, but generally that entire group is known as the Nordic countries. Jamie also likes our Monty Python clips, so here's one relevant to your interests. Voice pining but a field. Pining for the fields.

One of our anonymous listeners says in episode 17 the Nixon tapes, AG says that McConnell has now said it's being reported that if the House votes for impeachment, the Senate quote, has no choice but to hold trial to decide if Trump is removed from office. But what McConnell actually said was, we'll have to take it up. He never said they'll have to hold a trial. I'll have to double check on that. I believe our correctors. But yeah, it was like, I will have no choice but to take it up.

Yeah. Okay. Cool. Whatever that means. Yeah. Take it up. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Cool. Whatever that means. Take it up to heaven where you can't see it. Take it up to my circular file. Throw it in the garbage. I know.

Yeah. Vivi Mendes says, the word racies is not pronounced racies, it's reisis. The word actually means roots in Spanish, but it's an acronym for Refugee and Immigration Center for Education and Legal Services. I only knew the acronym part, so thank you. I've listened to the pod for a while now, she says, I know you all try to pronounce words as it should be, so I thought I'd let you know how this word is pronounced in Spanish so people could find the group easier. Cool. So Raiis, thank you. says in today's daily beans, cookie crumbs, you said the state IG is going to three committees, must mean it's a big deal. I'm here to let you know these are simply state committees of states,

committees of jurisdiction. So time state notifies the hill of any time the state notifies the hill of anything we generally go to all three to avoid pissing the odd ones off. Okay. Josh Miller wants to clarify that Jesse Liu is the US attorney for DC, not Southern District of New York. Jeffrey Berman is Southern District or New York. Jeffrey Berman is Southern District or New York. So you're correct. Thank you for that. That's an actual legitimate correction.

I'm not to say that all the other corrections, but it's not about like a pretty crazy issue. I'm wrong about a lot, but that's a political wrong. So thank you. Brittany Marshmello says, I can't believe I finally get to be relevant, but I think in Stupid Watergate episode, you guys were referring to a diabetic neuropathy when you said angry toes. Yes, that's the tingly burning pain one can get with nerve damage is seen in diabetes

and other diseases. Sincerely, a medical student who will never be able to stop thinking angry toes. Nancy Grubler says, I'd love to give you do props. I'd love for you to give do props to Daniel Ellsberg. That's the guy who released the Pentagon papers. An incredibly important person who helped the country get back on course. You're absolutely right. Daniel Ellsberg big ups, porousum from a homey. Georgia Cameron Clark says, you haven't screwed up. It's just a subtle tweak. In the Kensington

wine room is where the whole thing began with the popodopolis thing. It's not a pub. It's a really nice wine room with unusual wines andopolis thing. It's not a pub, it's a really nice wine room with unusual wines and really good food. With Downer? Yeah. Yeah. When you eventually make it to London, which I really, really hope you do,

I think we should meet there. London Show. We had a patron who took a picture where they met. Yeah, I remember. I totally forgot. The Kenzo Star Wine Room. Yes, but yeah, we met him at one of our shows. He was great.

Diane Wilson says it wasn't Bobby Brady that had the cracking voice in the Brady bunch. It was Peter Brady, the episode is called Time to Change. Where it's time to change, and it's time to change. From Donna Fafke, she gave me three seconds of fame when you aired my correction on pronouncing Greta Tunberg's name, but you really did a number on my last name. I was gonna let it go, but in keeping with the theme of the corrections,

I just couldn't. So my last name is pronounced faith key. No, fat key, like bath key, but with an F. No biggie, it happens a lot. My driver's ed teacher slash football coach made me sit in the first seat of the first row so that roll call he could just look over at me and grant. Instead of having to say Fathcay. Busy eye. Yeah. Interesting.

Yeah, driver's-ed and coach. That's usually how it goes. Like the health teacher. Community. Community leaders. The health class teacher also does is usually a phys ed teacher and also generally the driver's-ed teacher. Was driver's-ed offered in school?

Mm-hmm. Oh, not for me. We had to take it online, which makes no sense whatsoever. It was an online driver's ed class. That's really weird. Yeah, that you have to pay for separately outside of the public. Is it just pole position? Like you'd, boop, boop, boop, boop.

No, I think it's, you'd go driving. Yeah, I think it's like you learn like the concept of parallel parking. And when you have arrows that you can read about, I'm with on a keyboard. Read about feelings, about parallel parking. And it lives like you have arrows that you can like walk around with on a keyboard. You can read about feelings about parallel parking instead of actually going out and maybe. Edgar Sanchez says,

Amadeus from Nevada, not Utah. So thanks to Edgar for that. And thanks for all of your corrections. If you have any head to mullershirope.com, click contact, select corrections. We'll get it right eventually. We have a lot of news to get to, so let's jump in with just the facts.

So, we have some breaking news about Vesselnet's Gaia. Haven't heard about her in a while, and her earlier connections between Okvention and Sessions that could prove that Sessions lied to Congress. Jordan, you have that for us in hot notes. So, Politico has a story with the lead that hackers linked to the Iranian government have targeted the campaign at least 120 presidential candidate. The news came from a blog post from Microsoft who say they witnessed what can only be described

as significant digital activity by a group called phosphorous. The attack was against current and former government officials, journalists covering global politics and prominent and prominent Iranians living outside Iran. So they attacked not just current presidential candidate, but current and former government officials, journalists and prominent Iranians living outside of Iran.

Are they called expats if they're not American? Is anyone who doesn't live in their country and expat? Yeah, there's... Okay, as someone who is an expat, it's largely a thing that white people say. Honestly, expat is sort of reserved for people from Western countries who move to other Western countries because that's more of a white concept than being an immigrant. And it's like, the term X-Bat is kind of shitty in general. Oh, because it's a cover-up for immigrant.

Yeah, I kind of stop saying X-Bat after what. So I'm Canadian, I've lived in the UK and the US and so people refer to me as an expat, and I did for a long time until I realized that I was going through all the same channels as other people from poorer countries who called themselves immigrants. So it's kind of only when a person moves from a rich country to a rich country that they're an expat. People who don't have travel restrictions, basically. Yeah, well, I'm going to stop saying that too.

I mean, feel free to give me your own feedback on that Listeners, but that was just sort of something that I have picked up over time. I also know that people especially us living in San Diego There's a lot of folks who live in Mexico and I've heard them refer to themselves as expats Which also has a lot of in here in privilege because honestly they have a bunch of a bunch of money And they go and they like buy some ridiculously large beach-fripp state. Yeah, exactly. Or a Western person moving to a poorer country who's at the shop there is like, like, living it up.

Yeah, it tends to be only something that people from richer countries say. I don't know. I'll stop saying it. Yeah, fuck that. All right. Thank you. I didn't know that. Anyways.

Now I feel like I do and I feel like I'm smarter and better for it. Anyway, this attack was against current and former government officials and prominent Iranians living outside of Iran and journalists. And then on Friday, Reuters reported that anonymous sources say Iranian hackers tried to infiltrate Donald Trump's campaign. But the campaign has said they have no evidence they were compromised. Between August and September, phosphorus made more than 2,700 attempts to identify consumer Microsoft accounts, attacked 241 of them, four of which were actually infiltrated, none of which belonged to a government official. So the 2,700 attempts is the big number there.

And their primary tactic, according to emails obtained by Politico, is to fish using fake LinkedIn profiles. That's what they're doing. All right, also, here's an interesting story. Remember Judge Reggie Walton? He's a veteran Bush appointee that was presiding over a FOIA case for Buzzfeed to get an unredacted version of the Mueller report. Yes. This is right before Barr released his redacted version, and that Walton said he would wait to reserve judgment on whether the redactions were appropriate until he saw what Barr put out to the public. But once a report came out,

the judge said he might reserve the right to overview the redactions were appropriate until he saw what Barr put out to the public. But once a report came out, the judge said he might reserve the right to overview the redactions for appropriateness because the report did not coincide with the White House and Department of Justice's assessment that there was no collusion and no obstruction. So that's Reggie Walton, veteran judge, Bush appointee. And this week he had something to say about the Andy McCabe case. And as we know, the Department of Justice was criminally investigating Andy McCabe for lack of candor regarding his statements to officials, IG officials, and otherwise about his approval

of certain information to be given to the Wall Street Journal in two instances. One of the instances he was proved correct with the release of the emails between himself and Comey showing he did notify Comey of the decision. The other, he corrected his statement to the officials shortly after he spoke to them. But despite all that, and taking into account the Trump has been after him since he opened

the investigation into him and found out his wife was a Democrat, I guess, the Department of Justice tried to pursue charges against him. So during that time, we know that two of the line prosecutors quit the case for the way it was being handled. They say it was being mismanaged. And eventually, the Department of Justice told McCabe's lawyers they were not

going to drop the investigation, and then they recalled the grand jury. And usually, when the DOJ says they're pursuing charges and they recall the grand jury, the grand jury that same day usually hands down an indictment, right then. But this grand jury did not, and we think they balked. But we learned in the last couple of weeks that they for sure didn't, in fact, at all in Diet McKabe.

And the Department of Justice, however, did not close the case. And I bet you I bet you I guess why. But this week the judge, Judge Reggie Walton, told the DOJ either in Diet Andy or close the investigation. You have until October 15th. Fuck yeah, that's soon. It's really soon. Yes. So shoulder get off the pot. Yeah, that's soon. It's really soon. Yes.

So should her get off the pot? Yeah, it's a waste of government resources first off and second off, like what is that? It's just holding something over his head basically, right? Like what purpose does that even serve? I think they're still just trying to find a way to indict him. And that grand jury wouldn't, maybe they were gonna panel another one that would find

specific, I don't know, another one that would find specific, I don't know, do a runaway jury thing, call John Kewsack, I don't know what you're doing. You can't just keep an investigation open, hoping to find something. Well, I bet, but I mean, this all came out like before all this Ukraine stuff really started going down to you.

So I wonder if now all their resources are entirely just redirected or something. All the department adjusters, lawyers are out trying to investigate Biden or something. Yeah, they're like, we don't have the time to fabricate charges against this person. We're doing that with so many other people right now. Yeah, we're too backlogged.

Yeah, so Reggie, excuse me, I should call him Judge Walton. He, October 15th, you have to either indict him or close the case, and he added that if the department of justice does not comply with his order, he himself will release all the documents from the FBI regarding McCabe's firing. Fuck yeah. Keep in mind, Andy has a lawsuit filed against the Department of Justice in the FBI for wrongful termination.

I would assume that these FBI documents would help his case tremendously, though he would likely get them in discovery of his own in his own lawsuit, but in his lawsuit, those could be filed under seal and we'd never see them. Walton wants to release these documents to the public. That could be damning for McCabe possibly, but I don't think that you would threaten the Department of Justice by releasing documents that help the Department of Justice. Why? I'm curious, because that seems, I hate to use a political here, but that's kind of like

a big decision for a judge to make, to make documents public. And more and more, we're learning that they have that power, right? Yeah, but I mean, well, they've done it before and they, you know, it's generally something that they do when they say, like, for example, when the Cohen case left Southern District of New York, the judge released all the Cohen warrant stuff. Right. He's like, oh, you're not going to, you're not going to give me this case. All right.

I'm just going to release all this stuff to the public. So, do you think, sorry, you're going to think so? I don't think it's, I think the way that the judge probably sees it, considering he's a busher pointy, and if he's at all political, he might be even more conservative leaning, is that the truth gets out. Right. Yeah, that's, yeah. And when I say political, I didn't mean it in the sense that the word is overused nowadays.

But, yeah, yeah. But like, it is, and I guess that's not even the right word. It's more of just a dedication to their job, which is to administer justice fairly and justice includes the public's view of a situation, I imagine. But that shouldn't call it a threat either when I say threatened to release these documents. It just says, I'm going to release the documents in this case if you don't make a decision. Right. I just wonder if what's going on in this so that the public can make a decision. Exactly. Yeah, I wonder if what's going on in his head and other judges' heads when they release documents is at... Okay, so up until this point, we've had all this media surrounding this case and people don't know what's what.

And there's a lot of allegations specifically on one side, the crazy people side. And the only thing, you know, since we're not going to go through, and they're not going to, you know, successfully charge him, this is a way to clear the air, maybe, I guess, or this is some way to reach some kind of resolution on this case for the people who have been following it. And he feels like he owes that to the American public. And there is a lot in the law that says that public interest should be taken into account. Yeah. And so that could be it too.

It could be transparency for public interest, specifically in these media cases. Right. You know that you're talking about, well, they've got until October 15th. I'm sure the Department of Justice will delay as long as they can while they try to convince a grand jury

somewhere to indict McCabe. But I don't think that there's anything indictable here. Anybody, anybody on here? And yeah, they're doing. I can't do a,'s anything indyable here. Anybody, anybody on here? Yeah, they're doing this. I can't do a, it's like a peanut hawker. It's like a hawker or something. End up. End up.

And a horn, step right up and win some crap. So, lots of folks have tried to tell me now that Mueller isn't relevant in the current impeachment inquiry into Donald Trump for his dealings with Ukraine. But when you consider the concept of corrupt intent and the issues of totality of evidence that are raised in the Mueller report, and the fact that Trump has his Ukraine clown posse, thank you for junior bombing, traveling the globe to discredit Mueller's findings in the 2016 election interference investigation that Russia indeed hacked the DNC D Triple C in Podesta. Mollera is still very much involved.

Yeah. I mean, not himself personally, but the investigation. So first, if you think about the fact that Trump has been hiding transcripts and memos of meetings and calls in a code word protected nice classified so it's called nice NSC something environment. I don't know.

It's over in daily beans intelligence. Yeah. Yeah. I did. I did. I went over in daily beans NSE intelligence communications environment. Nice Anyway, so you think about the fact that he's hiding transcripts in there and one of those meetings included the Oval Office Fiasco in which Trump divulged Israeli intel to the Russians about ISIS in Syria We now know Mueller didn't have access to or knowledge of that server or if he did have knowledge of that server Biasco in which Trump divulged Israeli intel to the Russians about ISIS in Syria, we now know Mueller didn't have access to or knowledge of that server, or if he did have knowledge of that server, they didn't give him the information.

And he said in the report that he didn't get a lot of stuff, and to keep that in mind, when you read my decision to not charge on a broader conspiracy. But that's an indication that many people he spoke to, including Trump were not forthcoming about the information in the secure server. We know that because Mueller mentions the Oval Office meeting, he does, he mentions it all, but he leaves out the fact that Trump told Russia

he wasn't concerned about their interference. And Americans do it all the time. That would have been an important piece of evidence for volume one of the Mueller report on a broader conspiracy. He's acquiescing and acknowledging the hack, or at least the interference, whether he agrees with or not, whether he likes it or not,

isn't the point. He acknowledges that it existed. Yeah. And the most blatant connection to me is that Mueller was investigating election interference, and now Trump is continuing election interference, and he's seeking it out personally with all of these different countries.

Yeah, so it's very, very much related. Doing it on street corners. Yeah, it's the same shit, different country. Yeah, not the same shit, but you don't have any press conferences. Somebody called him Yellow Copters when he's like out yelling in front of a helicopter, which I thought was a great term for it. And this week in a piece from Politico, oh wait, hold on, I'm so sorry, I was gonna have thought, maybe he does it in front of helicopters

because then he can say that they misheard him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's actually real. Super fake. So in a piece from Politico this week by Andrew Desiderio and Darren Samuelson, his, I consider a friend, lawyers for the Dems in the House believe that the grand jury redactions in the Mueller report prove that Trump lied about his knowledge with campaign contacts with WikiLeaks. So we're even getting a

step further here. If you remember a while, but this is this week, a while back the House Dems petitioned the court for grand jury materials. They invoked their article one powers of impeachment. That's when I think the impeachment inquiry actually launched, but I digress. In a court filing in response to a Department of Justice filing that opposed the release of the grand jury material. So we asked for the grand jury stuff.

The DOJ opposed it. And then now there's a filing in response to that opposition. Counsel for the House's legal team, Doug Letter, cited a passage in the Mueller report where Manafort said he recalled Trump asking to be kept updated about WikiLeaks' disclosures. And on that page, there is a grand jury redaction that the Democrats say could be evidence Trump was aware of the campaign's contacts with WikiLeaks. And here's how Ukraine fits in.

The filing also said that those events could be relevant to the current impeachment inquiry, saying the grand jury materials would further the House investigations, the House's investigation of Trump's alleged attempts to pressure Ukraine to prosecute individuals who testified against Manafort. So it is all very relevant and it's still happening. That's this week in a court filing. Is there like, we think that Trump did know and we think that bar possibly

Shouldn't have redacted that bit due to grand jury material or if it is grand jury material and should have been We need to see the grand jury material so that we can know whether Trump knew about the WikiLeaks connection because that adds to the Totality of evidence of his impeachable, you know activity of Assisting other countries in in interfering in our elections and not only Trump's impeachable, you know, activity of assisting other countries in interfering in our elections. And not only Trump's impeachable activity, but bars. Yeah, fuck, fuck, bar. Yeah, I can't believe he's doing torture. I know. It makes me so sad.

I know. And just to even think for a second that when he was appointed, like we kind of thought it would maybe be chill. Yeah, right, for a second. We did. And the ladies over at Gaslit Nation were like, you're dumb. We've been fear being fucking dumb. I'm like, come on, give them the, oh yeah, you're right.

We know they were so right. Yes, you were ladies, hats off. For a sad reason, you win. For a sad reason. Yeah, I don't think they're reveling any of their victories. I don't think this is really a W when everyone else is losing. Anyway, we'll be right back with more headlines. This is AG and I want to tell you about this company making stylish shoes out of recycled

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Just mild for drug use, but also suicide. But it has to do with Deutsche Bank, so you know, way or options here. Because it's a really incredible story. From the New York Times this week, it's called Me and My Whistleblower. It's about an unlikely hero named Val Brooksmit. Brooksmit is the son of the late head of risk management and board member at Deutsche Bank Bill Brooksmit.

In 2014, Bill Brooksmit, Val's father, died by suicide when he hanged himself. And within nine days, Val noticed his dad's computer was up and his email accounts were open and found thousands upon thousands of documents related to Deutsche Bank. Specifically, these documents were collected by Bill Brooks met to help him defend himself against all the wrongdoing that was going on at Deutsche Bank that he was a part of just by being a board member at Deutsche Bank and head of risk management. Head of risk management.

Oh, God. As we know, Deutsche Bank has a long history of misconduct, including manipulating markets, evading taxes, bribing officials, violating sanctions, international sanctions, defrauding customers, laundering money for Russian billionaires. They have a long history of this. And we also know that Trump has done extensive business with Deutsche Bank. When he was broke and no one else would lend him money, Deutsche Bank lent him money. And that was well-just as Kennedy's kid worked there. Jeffrey Epstein too was a big customer.

Yep, absolutely. I think Barr was on a thing that defended them anyway. A lot of assholes. Thank you. Deutsche Bank. And that's a whole other scandal, the Justice Kennedy thing, speaking of that. But Val Brooks met musician in a band called Bikini Robot Army with a history of drug use, does a lot of heroin, coke, oxy, snorred oxy. In fact, when he had this information, he's out trying to give it to people. He would often be in between meetings with FBI agents and attorneys and stop it into the bathroom to to snore at oxy. And this is all from the journalist who you know who interviewed him. It was all he said it's fine to tell my whole story.

So these aren't like we aren't reporting on something that somebody doesn't want us to know. It's out there and he's given his okay for it. But he was, because of his history of drug use, a lot of people were first skeptical about his, well, he was also skeptical about his father's suicide, but he learned through this tranche of documents that his father left a suicide note in, and it was in these Deutsche Bank records, because he left a suicide note to Anshu Jane, that's at the time the Cochief Executive of Deutsche Bank.

And the note read, you were so good to me and I have repaid you with carelessness. I betrayed your trust and hid my horrible nature from you. I can't even begin to fathom the damage I've done. I'm eternally sorry and condemned. And that note left Val in tears and he read on to find out later that his late father who had once looked into the conduct. Basically he looked into the conduct of some Deutsche Bank traders and concluded mistakenly

that nothing was wrong. It turned out, however, that those traders he was looking into were manipulating the libor, which is a benchmark interest rate that is relied upon globally to set prime, you know, the what is the prime interest rate today? The LIBOR has a lot to do with that. And they were manipulating it, these traders. And Val's dad found nothing wrong with that, either mistakenly or otherwise. As the head of risk management.

As the head of risk management for the entire. So turning a blind eye. Mm-hmm. Or mistakenly didn't notice it, I'm not sure which. But Brooks Mitt feared he could become the subject of government scrutiny, prosecution, he spiraled mentally, eventually consulted a doctor and a psychologist. And after his suicide, the coroner scheduled a public hearing and intended to read aloud from the doctor's letters indicating the anxiety that he felt that caused him to imagine these worst case scenarios like prosecution, loss of wealth, loss of reputation. So the coroner wanted to read all that, but the morning of the press briefing, Deutsche Bank lawyers urged her not to do so and she acquiesced.

So almost everything about Brooks Schmidt's specific anxieties related to the bank was expunged. Where it had said he had anxiety about prosecution, prosecution was crossed out and it read that he had anxiety about issues. So everything Deutsche Bank was whitewashed from that and Val found the original coroner's report and the whitewashed version, the edited version in these documents. So he had all that now. So Val sat out to get the documents and the hands of the right people. He contacted the Department of Justice in the FBI and then a bunch of journalists.

One journalist from Financial Times got back to him and said someone was willing to pay him for his documents. And in January of 2017, he got $1,000 in his PayPal account from none other than Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS. The documents eventually found their way into anti-money laundering agents at the New York Fed. And a few months later, the Fed fined Deutsche Bank $41 million for violations in the unit that Brooks Schmidt oversaw.

It's not known if that's a coincidence. I'm pretty sure it's not. But the feds won't talk. The unit being risk management. Yes. And so that's $41 million was fined for shit that went on in his unit. Shortly after they got the documents for Val,

and they aren't saying if it was the documents or if they just, oh, we just found it on our own. Later on, Bruxman moved to Hollywood because he wanted to monetize what he knew and what he had. At a party, he met Moby and Moby arranged for an introduction to his good friend, Adam Schiff. Adam Schiff and Moby are friends. That makes sense. So Val wanted money or a job as a consultant working with Schiff, but Schiff was like, no. And then Wamo, this summer, Schiff has subpoenaed him for his documents.

And now he's... And now he's co-op, I wonder if Moby wrote a song about it. But now he's cooperating with the FBI in the matter, both House Democrats and the FBI are investigating Deutsche Bank, mostly in connection with Trump. But I think that the story here is, first of all, unlikely whistleblower, you know, Bikini, a robot army guy, drug user.

And everyone's like, oh, but aren't you worried about getting your documents from this kind of a person? And it's like, no, they're documents. The documents are the documents. And just because somebody is who they are, it doesn't mean that what they have isn't real. And you know, that's, I think a big important piece of this. And just the shift subpoenaed this guy.

And so when, remember the stories we were hearing that they were starting to get Deutsche Bank documents might not have been from Deutsche Bank, might have been from this dude. Hmm, it's interesting, right? That is interesting. Yeah, that's all very interesting. It's interesting that $1,000 was the price

they were gonna pay for that. That seems really low. I think it was supposed to be a total of 10,000. Okay, right. But yeah, that does really low. I think it was supposed to be a total of 10,000. Okay. Right. But yeah, that does seem low for fusion GPS specifically. And for a trance of Deutsche Bank documents from the head of risk management globally. Yes. Who killed himself? Right. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm not judging his son by any means, but it's also kind of an interesting pursuit to go out with the goal of getting money

from shopping those documents around. One of them sells to justice, but I'm not judging. He wants to be famous. He said this and he's told this journalist this. Where's my, I want to be in a movie, somebody should make a movie about it. He came to LA for that reason. He's trying to monetize it. It might not be going the way he wants, but I think that the closing paragraph was like, he matters now. And I think that that's actually, he realizes that's what he wanted was to matter. And so,

And sorry, you said he was trying to get shift to pay for it? He was trying to get a job as a consultant. Oh, a job, okay, yeah. But money, Right, yeah, as a consultant nonetheless. And most shifts like, no, we got those. Yes. Here's a subpoena. Give me your stuff. Yeah So they they were trying to work it out, but it didn't work out

But I just shift and Moby hanging out somebody needs to do that sketch sound a night live. Where are you? I would have never taken shift to be like a a little bit A movie dude. Yeah, he's supposed to be he was supposed to be at the party last night I think I know a Maxine water, she said, was maybe finishing. But I know Shiff was a bit... Now I can kind of see, maybe Shiff's a little punk rock. Yeah, I just imagine him on stage with Moby or something. I'm not saying Moby is punk rock.

No, yeah. Well, I mean his music definitely is not. All turnative. Yeah. It's hard to do with what we've talked to. It's hard to do with SNL. Sketch about Moby now without the Gropey stuff. Oh, yeah, that's true. Moby got gropey. Moby got gropey. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I apparently he liked to go and put his dick on people at parties. Okay. Like he just like

to walk up and like place his dick upon you. All right., just a little gentle dick. Yeah, some like essence sharing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Apparently. Oh my god. Why not start it from your day, George? Yeah. Can you be like, oh, I was in part of last night,

I got dicked by Moby. Oh my god. Moby dicked me. Moby dick. Oh my god. Oh my god. What? Yeah, like of all the weird creepy shit you could do with Cree.

It's not like that's really bad. Yeah, that's really bad. Or like a boob grab or something. It's just coming up behind you and gently. Apparently he didn't want them to know what was happening. Like he would just put his dick on you and walk away. Oh my god. Moby's dick.

Jesus Christ. So yeah. He has a peaceful music. Right? This is so... What is happening? But yeah. I am... I got dicked. I got the mobi dick.

Oh, that sucks. I grew up on the mobi. My dad's a huge mobi fan. What if he named his dickish, fuck my childhood up. I can't even now. I can't. His name's Herman.

Oh, Melville. OK. All right. Moving on. Wow. Maybe Dick break. Yeah. We have an update now on the IRS whistleblower story.

We know this. Richard Neal Houseways and Means Committee requested six years of Trump's tax returns to determine whether the IRS program responsible for auditing the President and Vice President's tax returns was being carried out properly. As we know, Steve, that's what I call a manuchin, and the, or manuchin, Steve, fuck you, it's Steve. So Steve and the IRS refused to hand over tax returns, and then we saw a letter in the

back matter of a court filing made by the Houseways and Means Committee in attachment QQ that mentioned a potential whistleblower having concerns about the handling of the request by the IRS and the Treasury. So there was like little inklings of this whistleblower complaint in the letter in QQ. Well, we learned Friday that the Treasury's acting inspector general has opened an investigation into whether the Trump administration acted improperly. We also learned that the whistleblower has filed a formal complaint and they did it in July, and that at least one politically appointed person they said in the complaint, at least one politically appointed person,

in the Treasury Department, attempted to interfere in the audit process. My beans are on Steve. Me too. According to the Washington Post, the Treasury has two inspectors general, the Treasury IG and the Tax Administration IG. This investigation is being conducted by the Treasury IG and the Tax Administration IG has not said if it's also investigating the matter. And I don't know, the Treasury IG I think, is an acting Trump appointee. And given what just happened with the State Department

Inspector General, where they went to Capitol Hill and brief nine committees to Sunday on these documents in Trump hotel folders that Giuliani sent over about the that he printed off the internet that are all these weird Joe Biden conspiracy theories. If that's what the State Department IG thinks is a legitimate reason to brief Congress, I'm concerned about the Inspector General for the Treasury. Like are they a good Inspector General, like the Intelligence Community Inspector General, or are they a shithead Inspector General,

like the fucking Inspector General at the state department. Yeah, it's catcher. No, we'll see. We'll find out. Because if there is a legitimate complaint from an IRS employee that a Treasury Department official, political appointee, at least one, tried to interfere with the tax, Trump's tax audit. Well, it's incredibly believable for me because I mean, look at who appointed them, right? Yeah. So at this point, I just assume that that's happening pretty much in all departments, where there are Trump appointees.

But the ICIG was great, and he's a Trump appointee. Yeah. Yeah, so I don't, I can't tell who's... I see that more, I guess, is an exception. Yeah, then the rule. You're right. All right, we'll be right back with hot notes. And they're extra hot.

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See me see me see me see me see me see me see me. All right right we're gonna do hot notes a little differently today. Usually Jordan would go first but today Jordan's hot note doubles a sabotage. Ooh you have a sabotage note sabotage note. I don't know. So I'll start today and that way we can segue nicely into the fantasy indictment league with your hot note because I think it could have some implications. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I've been wondering to myself, now that Mueller is done, and we're all focused on the

Ukraine clown posse, Credit Virginia Bowman. And by the way, I'm going to keep saying Credit Virginia Bowman for the rest of this episode, but probably after that, I'm just going to call them the Ukraine clown posse. So now you know where I got it. I've just, credit where credit's due, but not every time I'm on to infinity. I tagged on Twitter, hi Virginia, you're funny. It's just Ukraine Klompossi. Yeah, it's so good.

It's so good, better than that. So I'm wondering what will cover in Mollershi wrote, since the entire impeachment inquiry was kicked off by Mollers' testimony. At least that's when the house started invoking Article 1 powers and their filings for grand jury materials and underlying evidence in the Moller Report. So I was trying to figure out, what are we going to cover in Moleshira? What are we going to cover in daily beans?

And I've worked it out in my head. Of course, here at Moleshira, we will continue to cover things like the NRA, ties to Bootna Torschen, which are still very relevant, how the code word classified, nice system may have housed documents that people lied to Mueller about, or the Roger Stone trial starts in November, et cetera.

But one major part of the Ukraine scandal we're learning about is this effort by Trump, the Department of Justice and the State Department to discredit the Mueller findings that Russia hacked the election. And it's not just the Mueller findings, that was the intelligence community findings, the Senate House until Senate House intelligence community findings. Russia hacked our elections.

Our old Department of Justice under Rod Rosenstein because sessions was recused at the time, indicted 26 Russians for hacking us. It's, there's no question about it. Russia hacked our elections. And now Trump is trying to get people to say that they didn't, that it was the Democrats that worked with the Ukrainians to do it somehow.

Or Seth Rich was their first conspiracy theory. So that's a part we'll focus on here at Muller Sheerot. These favors abroad, along with other things, the other things that I mentioned that are still going on with the Muller probe that's still very relevant. And you'll get even a more relevant breaking story from Jordan here in a minute,

that Vessel Nutsky is back in the news. It doesn't go away just because it's over. And the daily beans will keep up with the day-to-day news about impeachment for interference in the 2020 election, and Mueller, she wrote, will watch current events connected with discrediting 2016. So, in light of that, I wanted to discuss today all of the recent news we're learning about the Trump administration efforts to overturn or otherwise discredit the conclusion

that Russia hacked our elections in 2016. A conclusion supported by the Department of Justice, as I said, in their indictment of the Russians, by Mueller and his report, by our entire intelligence community in their 2017 January 2017 assessment, not to mention, like I said, entire Congress, less of few traders, but including the Senate House Intelligence Committee, who reached the same conclusion. So let's look at the way Trump is abusing his power using agencies to investigate other origins, or excuse me, investigate the oranges of the Mueller report and discredit the findings.

Somebody said that on, who was it, Katie Turr maybe, or Brooke Baldwin, somebody said it on NBC, the oranges of the investigation and then somebody was like, Mueller she wrote, she listened to Mueller she wrote. And I was like, I think she's just really making fun of the oranges of the investigation. Yeah, that was a pretty blatantly mocked moment for him.

Yeah, it's pretty open for interpretation there. Aside from the Hillary emails investigation, which ramped up after Ukraine whistleblower, Ukraine whistleblower complaint was filed first brought to the DOJ and Trump. That's when he ramped up this Hillary investigation, sending emails, basically retroactively classifying previously non-classified emails that were sent to Hillary's private server and then sending letters to those people who sent those emails and said,

we reclassified your email, you sent classified shit to Hillary Clinton, you could be in trouble. And they're like, what, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They're still looking at Hillary's emails. So from that, we have Trump calling Australia to tell them to work with Barr to help him with the popodopolis origins of the investigation. Then we have Barr with Durham in Italy, which we put some beans on. And then Washington Post confirmed to beans the next day that he was there to get help with the origins of the Mueller probe and the Trump investigation.

Then, lo and behold, we found out Bar was there to watch the deposition of Mifsood. So, you know, and Mifsood was the professor who told Poppodopoulos he had, you know, Russia had dirt on Hillary. And Mifsood is supposedly a deep state operative that was sent by the FBI to trap our wonderful popodopolis. Then we have Giuliani working with Ukraine on the DNC hack conspiracy, trying to cobble together a story that Russia didn't do it. Though Rosenstein, like I said, even tweeted out, that's stupid.

Russia did it. There's no question, it's unequivocal. And since then, we've gotten text messages between State Department and Ukraine officials confirming Trump was tying White House visits and the withholding of military aid to investigations into Biden and the 2016 election interference findings. It's not just about Biden. He wants to discredit the findings that Russia hacked our election in 2016. The Trump story being, you know, his side of the story is that the Dems actually leaked their own emails to WikiLeaks with the help of Ukraine or Russia or China or whoever he's talking to at the time. Washington Post also reports barmaid overtures to British intelligence

officials to help discredit our own intelligence communities findings that Russia hacked our elections and to discredit the origins of the Mueller investigation. Not to mention the dark propaganda solicited by Trump from Ukraine in the face of losing military aid to state publicly that they doubt the origins of the Mueller probe by saying that they're investigating it. And Asha will go over that kind of propaganda in detail in the interview a bit later, so stick around for that.

So anyhow, this coordinated campaign to cast doubt on the Mueller findings and the origins of the Mueller investigation itself Tells me they have nothing and it only ramped up after the whistleblower complaint came to light Pompeo for example was in Italy for October 1st through the 6th and we haven't heard about any reporting outside our own beans on that Now they're in Greece and Darapasca's there. I don't know if they're meeting, but that's just an interesting coincidence But big big picture we have to remember there are two major sets of sanctions against Russia. One are the sanctions they got for invading Ukraine.

I don't know if we're trying to annex Crimea, annexation of Crimea, the annexation of Crimea, I'm not trying. This is what was at the center of the Ukraine peace plan that Kushner was putting together during the election. This is why Trump is trying to get Zelensky to agree to a peace plan with Putin. That's why he's pushing it on him, despite his terror-ridden face about the idea in that press conference.

Because if there's a peace accord between Ukraine and Russia, no need for the sanctions for invading Crimea. You remember during Trump's press conference with Zelensky, he pushed him to make that deal with Putin. And Zelensky was like, oh no. And then the reason they're trying to discredit the conclusion that Russia interfered in our elections by pushing the Dem Ukraine conspiracy and that Ukraine hacked instead of Russia is so they can lift sanctions Obama put on Russia for interfering in the election.

Those are the two main sets of sanctions, attacking Crimea, invading and annexation, and then interfering in our elections. And Barr was in Italy while dudes from Rosneft were there, and that has to do with the pipeline Putin wants through Ukraine, and it might be why Putin invaded in the first place. And don't forget about the massive sell-off of Rosneft, and we don't know where that commission went. But the big picture here is sanctions. It's always been about sanctions. We've been saying this since 2017. Trump first tried to relieve the Russian election interference sanctions by trying to make

Seth Rich stick, so he could blame the Dems. Meanwhile, he pressures Ukraine to help him investigate Biden. But don't forget, the first time Ukraine got some javelins, the Maniford investigations, four of them stopped, and discontinued cooperating with Mueller on his Maniford investigation. Who broke or that deal? My beans are on Giuliani. And he's now being subpoenaed for documents going that far back. And I think that's why they subpoenaed him for two years of documents. That fits up with the timeline of the end of Ukraine Maniford investigation. So never forget, it's always been about sanctions. That's what the June 9th 2016 meeting was about. It was about sanctions. It was disguised as adoptions because Russian adoptions were pulled in response to the Magnitsky

Act, which is sanctions. And Vesonetskaya was the leader of an initiative to kill the Magnitsky Act. And now that Trump is facing impeachment, they're scrambling not only to solicit help against Trump campaign rivals, but to discredit the 2016 findings and make peace between Russia and Ukraine possibly through threats so he can live sanctions on Russia before he shuffles off the presidential coil. I know it's mortal coil and there's no such thing as a presidential coil. I was taking artistic license. No need to send a correction. But speaking of vessel in the sky, are you ready for sabotage hot notes?

Jordan, what is going on with Veselna Skaya? Lots. So, Veselna Skaya and some other familiar names are back in the news now after this Russian opposition group that's based in London, that's named the Dossie Center, kind of a bad name. Yeah, leaked a bunch of emails that are just really illuminating further details of potential fair of violations, I'll honestly and brush and meddling in the extent of that and the role that Vesonette Sky and all these other people played in it.

So this is pretty lengthy and detailed reporting by the Daily Beast. So I'm just going to go over the highlights today. But I encourage you all to read the full article. And if we could put that in the newsletter, that would be really awesome, actually, because it's there's really a lot of good details in there. But the details largely center around Vesonette Sky, and her time that was spent representing Prevazon Holdings, which you won't know that name. And there are $230 million fraud case, which has, as we know, ultimately spiraled into her

main job, which is just to overturn the Magnitsky Act. Yeah, because that, that fraud case was investigated by Magnitsky who was then jailed and murdered. Yes, which resulted in the Magnitsky Act, which now are the sanctions that Shputon has tasked her with trying to get lifted. So it's not just Vezonette Skye, though, who's involved in all this.

It's also in the story that the Daily Beast broke. It's also an American law firm actually named Baker Hofstettler. Yep, that's, yeah, they're in the feet all over the fusion GPS stuff. Totally. So Baker Hofstettler was working for Prevazon on the direction of Hezzelman Skaya, but a judgment, this is why this is like the first major point. A judgment by the second circuit court of appeals said that law firm couldn't do work anymore because of a conflict of interest that they had with another client.

But what we learned in these emails is that the law firm did not stop working on this prevasant case, and they were working behind the scenes as like essentially like dark counsel. Right. And they were not supposed to. And they were counsel for Prevazon directly, basically sending them direct emails and corresponding with people.

And the whole time, essentially, despite the court's decision. So I'm, if I don't know who goes first in the fantasy indictment link, but definitely I want to put them on there because this whole thing just seems like- Yes. Yes. Because there are so many potential fair violations here.

They didn't register- Overpink or Hofsteller? Yes. They didn't register, and they did- like they were offering to help Veselon that skyad drafter statement to Congress, like super, super-in it council stuff. So that's bad. After being ordered not to. Yeah. After being ordered not to. And directly going behind, you know, yeah, that orders, come behind the orders back. That's crazy. Right, crazy. So the article also mentions, and we already know this, but it's another court order was violated.

In the case of Nikolai Gorkov, Gorkov, if you remember, was a witness who just mysteriously fell from his balcony and fractured his skull right before he was supposed to come back to New York to testify in this case. And his identity was released, which made it so they could locate him and do that. And that's just important to note that essentially, I think why Daily Beast mentioned this is that the ways that they were communicating resulted in this being able to happen. That's why it's important for people to win a court order as you just stay out of shit, not to do anything.

Perhaps the most relevant detail to us so that has come out of these leaks is further evidence of sessions involvement with Russian officials as it relates to overturning the Magnitsky Act. This is the crazy shit. Yeah, this is crazy shit. Contacts that he under oath have said did not happen, right? But an email sent from Renaud's Ack mentioned, we know that name, Ack mentioned both that he successfully convinced sessions to open up in investigation into U.S. sanctions against Russia.

So that's something that's coming out of this reporting. Akmetshin was allegedly hired and paid by Prevazon before he started getting paid by a nonprofit, which Akmetshin and that law firm Baker Haasdettler helped set up together, by the way. So there's another sketchy thing that that law firm was involved in to try to like get the appearance gone of Prevazon directly paying him. They set up a fake nonprofit essentially to do it to send the money through. Wow. Yeah.

And then sessions too is credit, I guess. Never did technically open up a formal investigation into the Magnetski Act, but he did lie under oath about contacts with Russian officials. So for all we know, part of those contacts could have been conversations that looks looks, if Akmenshens telling the truth when he was saying in these emails, hey, I got sessions to bite the bay essentially. If those were conversations that did in fact happen and those were that some of the conversations

that sessions was lying about, that's huge. Yeah, because sessions was, I think they got off the hook on that one because he was talking about specifically the meetings with like the handshake at the Mayflower Hotel with Kitsley Ak. And so no, I'm not meeting with, you know, the Russians, but if he's actually emailing a convention and having discussions about potentially anything involving Prevazon or Baker Hofstettler or any of these. What was he opening an investigation into the magnets? Yeah, the magnets.

Yeah, then that's, you know, like, right, which passed like 98 to nothing. I know. Like what investigation are you going to open? It's anyway, it's just it's all a very bad look for him. Yeah, totally. I mean, it's just like, it's more evidence of Russia and their campaign to try to influence the election for the purpose of easing sanctions, just like you were saying. And sessions was one of the earliest adopters of Trump's campaign. Yeah. So the fact that he,

I mean, it all lines up for me personally, that he would have been one of the earliest people to adopt this and would have been one of the people involved in some of the earliest conversations about what the relationship with the US and Russia was going to look like moving forward. One of those things being trying to get these sanctions lifted. Yeah, I wonder if Baker Hofstett learned anything about Korkoff's death, you know.

Yeah. I mean, if they're willing to set up fake non-profits to pay people and refute, and did I, you know, defy court orders to continue consulting someone that they're not supposed to be consulting, what else are they willing to do? It's the right shit. Yeah, it is.

And I don't know. I don't remember who leaked his identity. Exactly. I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember. But yeah, like I. And I don't know. I don't remember who leaked his identity. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember. But yeah, like I said, I think, I think the reason that they, they mentioned Gorkov in this article is just basically to say some really awful things went down that led to some really serious consequences. And if this law firm was involved in those communications behind closed doors, then potentially maybe they were involved in a betting that that's the revelation of his identity. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. In some way. And you know, it's really sketchy about this law firm, which is even worse. The reason that the conflict of interest decision was even passed down from that court of appeals was passed down, isn't the right word, you know, issued. Yeah. Whenever. Is because his what his conflict of interest was or what their conflict of interest was, was

five years previous, he was actually on Bill Browder's side and was helping consult with him about what his case was going to look like on the entire opposite end of this case. Gorkoff or Baker Hofsteadler. Baker Hofsteadler. Yeah, Baker Hofsteadler. So then, then five years later, they come out, they completely 180. Yeah, and it's also weird because the fusion GPS did the same thing. That first fusion GPS was looking into getting dirt on Bill Browder for Prevazon Holdings,

working for Vesonet Skaya. Right. And then fusion GPS comes out on the side of the Christopher Steel dossier and getting that information on Trump and what a terrible, terrible coincidence for them and their credibility. Yeah. Yeah, that is true. That, I mean, that is true.

Because the fusion was hired by Prevazon to smear Bill Browder. Right. Yeah, and I think that's a testament to, you know, I guess just these, these sort of arms dealing kind of groups, like basically just willing to get money from everyone. Private spies. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. They're just, they're just people who, not, yeah, that literally arms dealing, I'm just thinking of that person who's willing to sell to anybody really. They don't really care who their customer is. And the fact that on the same case, like you said, on the same case,

they're gonna want completely 180 is, I guess it's not like illegal, right? You can totally represent that. Whoever you want. But a court's gonna say, okay, that's a bit too much conflict of interest that you were on this side and now you're entirely on the other side.

So you got to stop like, there are counseling, there are some ethics rules there. Right. And then the fact now that they, they, they just had continued to work with them behind closed doors consistently. I know. Right. Yeah. And did not register as a foreign agent, even though they were 100% essentially lobbying

on behalf of, yeah, a foreign group. Yeah. Well, then. All right. Well, thanks for that. Thanks for that. A hot note sabotage. Reporting Jordan. Yeah, really good. Thank you. The daily beast totally like nailed all of that reporting. It's a really good article. Yes. High five daily beast. Yes. They get the best shit. I know. I know. It's fucking crazy. I love their work there. But like, when you, I wonder if you could go to work for that. Do you have to bring your own sources with you or do they have a bunch of sources for you? Yeah. And's fucking crazy. I would love to work there. But when you, I wonder if you could go to work for that. Do you have to bring your own sources with you?

Or did they have a bunch of sources for you? Yeah. And you get there. That's a good question. I mean, I could see someone like Scott Stedman really like thriving in a publication like that. I only have like a handful of kind of sources. And so it's like, a lot of my sources are second hand sources.

So a lot of the stuff I hear I can't report or I wouldn't report anyway because I don't think it's responsible to do that. Sometimes I put beans on things based on that, but I always make sure that everyone is conjecture and stuff like that. It's not. Yeah. Reportable facts, but I wonder if I ever got a job for like Politico or Daily Beast or something if they have like a source file for you to access or if you have to bring your own sources with you.

And if you don't have sources, you probably can't work that way. Yeah. No, to that point too, I should say, when you read the article, you'll see that a lot of the things that I talk about are also countered with, we reached out to X person or group who was involved. And they said, they either said, said no that's not true or they respond they refuse to respond and give any comment on it. So a lot of investor could invest a tutorial is that the word? Invest a tutorial. Yeah I mean I think if you work for a publication

like that it's like a mixture like senior people above you are going to have sources who they you know will introduce you to for a given story you might have it some of your own sources but I think for a lot of it too you you're just reaching out to people for a question you're doing investigative work. But yeah, I don't know. I feel they probably wouldn't hire you unless you had at least some sources. Right. Because I can write the news. I can write the news in some ways this Sunday, but yeah. But I do appreciate, I think sometimes the Daily Beast kind of gets a rep for just, you know, because they are reporting on such insane shit. That it's almost like hard to believe some of this stuff. And I do think their version of saying

it's just conjecture is putting in, you know, those things that say we request a comment and they didn't give it to us or we did. And they said, they're very transparent about that. They are. Yeah. And sometimes we catch a lot of shit for that too. Like I'll say, oh yeah, we reported on that last week. And they're like, actually, someone

else reported on it and you just repeated it. People will... 100% that is all those podcasts. I don't fucking know any of these people. We may have scooped something three times in our lives. This is how Maddo operates her late news show. She's reporting the news that has already been scooped throughout the rest of the day. Grandit NBC might have scooped some of it, but she's reporting the news that has already been scooped throughout the rest of the day. Granded NBC might have scooped some of it,

but she's reporting the news. That's what this is. I'm not trying to say like, no, I don't think we've ever said that. That's what we make the news. No, no, 100%. We report it and you put it in a timeline. Yeah, and in context.

And I think that's why people listen. I bring it all in that. And the Moby Dick jokes. That. Moby Dick jokes. Moby Dick jokes. That. Moby Dick jokes. Awesome. Are you guys ready for the fantasy indictment league? Yes, let's do it.

I'm gonna be a dinosaur. No, it is gonna be okay. I'm gonna be a dinosaur. I'm gonna be a dinosaur. I'm gonna be a dinosaur. I'm gonna be a dinosaur. I'm gonna be okay. Just calm down.

I can't calm down. I'm gonna be a dinosaur. Alright, Jordan, you get to pick first this week. Perfect. I am going to do the law firm of Baker Haustetler. Alright, so not Baker, not Haustetler, but the law firm Baker Haustetler. The law firm Baker Haustetler. Yeah. Alright, I'm gonna do Nader.

Yes. I'm gonna do- I still think he's on the hook for that 2009. I'm doing Tom Barrick. You're doing Barrick again? Tom Barrick, man. Alright, I'm gonna go think he's on the hook for that 2009. Mm-hmm. I'm doing Tom Barrick. You're doing Barrick again? Talking Barrick, man. All right, I'm gonna go Jizz Lane. That's gonna be Jizz Lane.

Let's go to the next one. Okay, I will do, um, hmm. I guess superseding Vesalant Skies kind of pointless, probably. I don't know. Because they only got her on obstruction so far, right? I'll do more Vesselnet's guy. Yeah, right. Cool. Bring it back to oldies. Yeah. If anyone picks up that reporting and looks into it more. Yeah. Yeah. All right, I'm going to do truck organization. All right, I'm gonna do Trump organization.

I'm gonna do Trump inaugural. Nice. I'm gonna do Kalamari from the Trump organization. I'm going to do Weiselberg. Interesting. I'm gonna do, that was gonna be my last one, but I'll switch to Wolkopf. Wolkopf is the woman, and this is an interesting bit of a rumor that I've heard. Again, totally conjecture, rumor, I'm not scooping anything.

I report the news. Wolkopf is the woman who got paid $26 million out of the inaugural. I've heard that Melania was supposed to get $25 million to stay married to Trump, $25 million if he won, and then an additional $25 million two years later. And I'm wondering if that $25 million didn't go through Walcoff from the inaugural because she got paid $26 million to organize the party. I'm wondering if that's how Melania got her $25 million. Interesting. Melania blinked twice.

I'm twice if you're okay. No, she's like, I'm chilling, dude. I'm rich as fuck, right? So WALCOP, I think could be. I think that's our, that's that my last pick. That's your last one, AG. Jordan, you have one more. No, Jordan. Okay. So then I think, oh, wait, no, you're right. You're right. Okay. You both have five. Okay. Cool. Okay. Thank you, man. Yeah. All right. We will be right back. We have this amazing interview with Asha Rangapa. She's gonna talk all about what's going on with the Ukraine propaganda

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I'm really glad to have you because I've been following your Twitter pretty closely. You've come up with some amazing thunder struck moments that I hadn't thought of and I wanted to go over them with you a little bit today. But first to set it up to like set the scene let's can we go over some of those text messages that let's see I think it was angle shift and Cummings from foreign affairs until an oversight released Thursday night. Yeah, let me pull them up. Yeah, because it was text messages between top state department officials involved in the whole quid pro quo thing with the Ukraine, you know, withholding military aid and trying to make them look into Joe Biden in 2016. And there's three main exchanges

I wanted to ask you about. The first one is the actual stated quid pro quo. Shortly before the July 25 call that same day between Trump and Zelensky. Volker texted a Zelensky advisor named Uremac saying, heard from the White House, assuming President Z. convinces Trump he will investigate slash quote, get to the bottom of what happened in 2016. We will nail down a date for a visit to Washington. And I was wondering what you make of that.

And is there any other way to Lindsey Graham your way out of this and say it's not an explicit quid pro quo? No, I mean, he is waiting for this is a condition, right? He has conditioned at least a meeting or a visit to Washington on a particular, you know, fulfillment of this wish. And from Ukraine's perspective, the visit to Washington is something that they want and they need. I think what's key here is understanding

that the United States holds the power in the power differential here. So you also have to take that into account when you are understanding the requests and demands and conditions that are being made on Ukraine. And they're making it explicit that, you know, what happens next depends on their agreeing to those conditions.

I mean, do you agree to really? No, not at all. And I completely understand the 400 million in eight. I think we've given 1.5 billion in aid to Ukraine since 2014, since the annexation of Crimea. And it's very, very important. We are the dominance in the power balance. But so why is a visit to Washington

so important for Zelensky, A visit to the White House? Just give him credibility as a nation? Yes, I mean, he's a new president, right? To reinforce the relationship. You know, for him within Ukraine, it reassures the people there that we're still going to be assisting them. I mean, I think there are a lot of kind of diplomatic reasons why it would be important that are connected to the actual monetary aid that we give them.

Yeah, and I didn't mean to insinuate that they don't have credibility as a nation. I mean, the EU and the United States is a long record of supporting them militarily against Russian aggression, and even beyond that into the past. I just wanted to make sure people don't think that I didn't think that they were a credible nation. I think it's fair, though, when you have a new president that there is a certain amount of impromotor that they would want from the united states or or other people um you know to bolster their

ability to get things done for you crane yeah i would think yeah and it does make sense because they also rely on a lot of you know despite what trump says a lot of nato assistance um and a visit a visit to the white house i think would bolster that as well for sure so the next problem um I think would bolster that as well. For sure. So the next problem, um, text message, the State Department has is the exchange that proves the US helped shape a statement from Ukraine about the Biden probe. So your Mac texted Volker saying, once we have a date, we will call for press briefing announcing upcoming visit and outlining vision for the reboot of the US-Ukraine relationship, including among other things, barisma and election meddling investigations.

So barisma, of course, is the company that Biden sat on the board with. But I was wondering, you had put this amazing thread together today on Twitter. What are the implications of this text exchange and the US helping them formulate a press statement as far as propaganda is concerned. Yeah, I mean, what I found really striking is that they wanted Ukraine to make an official statement that as part of the announcing the visit that Ukraine was going to say that it is investigating, you know,

Burisma and 2016 election. And then if you look at the next text exchange, the one on August 13th, we see that there's actually, they're crafting exactly what they want Ukraine to say. Presumably Rudy Giuliani is also involved in drafting the statement. If you look at, we intend to initiate a complete and transparent and unbiased investigation of all available facts and episodes, including those involving Beresman 20 and the 2016 US elections. So they want him to, you know, Sileskie, to mention that in a public announcement.

And the reason that that's important is that it kind of casts doubt on whether the administration was really interested in the actual investigation. I mean, if you're really trying to negotiate with another country to investigate corruption, you're having a private phone call, you say, listen, you need to look into corruption and they say, yes, we will, and you say, keep us posted. I mean, you would honor their ability to take over, you know, their law enforcement and conduct an investigation and ultimately arrive at the fruits of it. Here they don't care. They really just want him to say and make it

clear to a particular audience, which I think is the American voters, that they're doing that. And they're not, and in the message, they're not going to make clear that the US has been involved in crafting the statement in any way, or in essentially coercing them into doing it, which is problematic because from the US point of view, from your US citizen point of view it then looks like an independent Decision by Ukraine to do this, you know for their own reasons It's it's a distortion of what is actually happening and what it would allow Trump to do is then say hey look see they've come to the same conclusion as we did over here This is all a witch hunt.

And that's black propaganda. When you launder your words or ideas and have them spoken through another source without disclosing that you're the one behind it, that is a form of propaganda. And it's something that, you know, it's basically a covert side up that they were trying to pull over here. I get it. So just the mere mention from a foreign government that they're investigating the 2016 conclusion would cast doubt on our intelligence community's assessment thereby opening up

the door for Trump to because like, you know, I think you and I mentioned before, no one's going to believe Trump if he says it. But if somebody else is investigating it or, or, you know, drawing, you know, having questions about the validity of what has already been proven, then maybe that gives Trump room to point and say, look, somebody else is on our side. Exactly. Exactly. And that they, you know, look, this is a whole, this is a different country. And they're the, they've already, you know, they're uncovering all this, you know, shenanigans too, that Ukraine was behind the DNC hack. And that also gives Trump cover to do other foreign policy things like we talked about this, A.G., that he could

then use that as a justification to lift sanctions., that he could then use that as a justification to lift sanctions on Russia. He could use that as a justification to pardon Paul Manafort. In other words, he is able to, you know, use Ukraine as, you know, a cloak, you know, for his true motives and be able to do things that he would not be able to do were it out in the open that he was pressuring them to do this. Because everybody was like, well, the only reason they're investigating that is because you're like, exactly what we're saying now, you're basically with all the money. And I just think this is an independent concern apart from abusive power and soliciting election

for an election interference, which are both, it doesn't negate those, but this is like one more to add to the list. Yeah, and when you think about Trump's main goals, they have to be to please Putin or to lift sanctions and the two main sanctions drops that came were for the annexation of Crimea and for interfering in the 2016 elections. So he can discredit that.

If he can discredit the 2016 findings by Mueller, he can, you know, pave his way to lift those sanctions just like he's, you know, trying to pressure Zalensky to make a deal with Putin because if there's a peace deal with Ukraine Exactly. Yeah, so that is his main goal And now I think he's being pushed extra hard By Putin because time's running out for him to be there so you know And then finally well, no, I got two more questions here because there was a text exchange in which Taylor the US official in a crane asked Ukraine asks Saunlin are we now saying that security assistance meaning the military aid and White House meetings are conditioned to investigations and to that Saunlin replies call me now being a government employee a former

government employee myself included I know what call me means. What does call me mean? Call me means I don't want to leave a paper trail, take this offline. Stop, stop typing. Yeah, right now, stop. Yeah, and in context, that makes sense because after five hours, Sonlin seems to have gotten some guidance. Well, and one thing, before we go to the next exchange, remember that he could have

just said, no, right? I mean, it's 12 hours. He could have said no. He could have said no. He could have said no. He could have said no. Security assistance in the White House meeting or conditional investigations. Do you think like two minutes later, if that was really not the reason, you'd be like,

no, no, no, no, no, that's not it. Yeah. Then if you said, call me, but like, there's nothing like that. It's like, you know, half an hour goes by and he's not it. Yeah. Then if you said call me, you know, but like there's nothing like that. It's like, you know, half an hour goes by and he's like, call me. And of course, right after that, whatever that phone call was, Taylor says to him, as I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. And five hours of radio silence until Saundlen comes back with this written scripted statement.

Paraphyl crafted, yes. Yeah, like a cleanup text. Yes. And by the way, I also don't miss the September 8th where he does it one more time. He says, the nightmare is they give the interview and don't get the security assistance. The Russians will love it.

And understand what he's saying there, is they give the interview, expecting the security assistance, which has clearly been what's promised to them. And then the nightmare would be that we don't follow through on that. Like, I think that that is an important sentence to. Yeah. Because he's basically saying, look, the understanding that Ukraine has is that once they do what we

want, they're getting the money. And my nightmare scenario is that that doesn't happen either. And that's going to be a huge gift to Russia. Yeah, and he also says at which point I quit. And that also makes it very important about that other Putin call that we learned about that we haven't heard about the details of, but is hidden in that code word secure electronic system as well. That makes me really curious about what Trump said to Putin about withholding the aid

and trying to get a statement, and then maybe just not paying it off. Yes, I suspect that there could be something along those lines because obviously Russia doesn't want them to get the money. Yeah, of course not. Right, so I would not be surprised if there was some discussion on how Trump could get out of giving them the money at all? Yeah, and then we also have the potential of, you know, when Trump defunded the EDI and the ERI or the European defense initiative and European reassurance initiative, all this

money that goes to help NATO protect sovereign nations from Russian aggression, he defended those to build his wall. I can't help but think that that wasn't on purpose. Yeah. But we don't know about that Putin call yet. Or if there are even just one Putin call in that system, I'm sure there's more than one. Can we call him Pudy calls? Pudy calls? Yeah, I think we can call him Pudy calls.

I like that. I just want to read to you the the Saundlen cleanup text after he, you know, after, because you mentioned the September 8th call where he's like, this is the nightmare scenario. And then he says, I just still think it's crazy that we're withholding military aid for help with Trump's campaign. But the cleanup text bill, I believe, you are incorrect about President Trump's intentions. The president has been crystal clear on no quid pro quo of any kind. The president is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt their transparency and reform efforts that

President Zelensky promised during his campaign. So that's not a, that doesn't match their previous, you know, Colin and President Z and right, you know, that's just a full on like fully punctuated statement that could even be copied and pasted. So it's just funny to me. Yeah, the only other place where you have something kind of so formal is in that August 13 call where they're literally like, vocal is sending a potential draft of language

for the craniums in their announcement or whatever. That's the only time where it's semi-similar. And that's, as you said, very scripted. Right, it has a draft statement. Yeah, exactly. So basically, yeah, what you just read was also probably a drafted statement that you said, like you said, cut and paste it. Oh, for sure. And I'm dying to know where he got that from.

Oh, no. You know, like who told him that? Was it Pompeo? You know, I don't know. It certainly wasn't Giuliani or Trump, because neither of them can speak like that. So. Right. And then, so, you know, we have this whole statement saying, you know, we're just worried

about the corruption, basically, and that was Trump's sort of argument for a while, but didn't the entire corruption argument go out the window when Trump asked China to investigate Biden? Exactly. Like, yes. I mean, well, I think that the argument would be that I guess Hunter made money from China isn't that one of the, I can't follow the tinfoil crap like, you know, the theory, but I think it's that he got money from China.

And so then that would be justification for asking China to look into how, and Hunter Biden, like a company Joe Biden on a trip or something like that to China is not clear to me. There's a China link of some kind, so, but yeah, you typically don't ask authoritarian governments who jailed dissidents and, you know, don't follow due process or international law to investigate your own citizens when you're the US. Yeah. I think the accusation was, but Hunter got kicked out of the Navy, then he took billions from China and then that was sort of where they left it.

But then I think we also found out today that there was a previous call between Trump and G where Trump had mentioned the Biden's, and that's also in that code word classified system as well. But it wasn't the trade war that he was pressuring him with, according to whoever told the press about this, but it was the Hong Kong's remaining silent on the Hong Kong protests. Yep. Yes, he's offering things that again are not aligned with what are necessarily in the best interest of the United States, right, or policies or values or whatever. And I just think it goes to, I think, honestly,

Trump sits in the Oval Office and sees the amount of money that's going to different countries. And I think he can't stand it. Like in the sense of like, why, you know, why would you give money away if you can't get something for yourself? Yeah. Like I think for him to do something in the interest of form, like of the United States foreign policy or the best interest in the United States to him is a waste of money. Yeah.

If he can't get something out of it, I don't think he sees any purpose in it at all. Yeah. And now we also know that lots of the National Security Council folks and folks in the State Department, career professionals were really frustrated with Trump's silence over the summer about the Hong Kong protests because usually the United States takes a really firm pro-democracy stance on these kinds of things. And he was mysteriously quiet about it. And maybe not so mysteriously over the summer about the Hong Kong protest because usually the United States takes a really firm pro-democracy stance on these kinds of things. And he was mysteriously quiet about it. And maybe not so mysteriously anymore, but he was quiet about it.

Exactly, exactly. So yeah, so there's another phone call in the, we need to come up with a name for the, for where he keeps his Pudy calls. And he calls. Yeah. And I think it's important. I mean, you know, you're a former investigator,

and we learn from the Mueller report, especially in the obstruction probe and volume two, that it's the totality of the evidence here that has to be taken into account. Like in the Mueller report, when he had said, you know, I didn't use the word fire when I said to get rid of Mueller, but you know, Mueller said, okay, but look, he ran back fire when I said to get rid of Mueller, but Mueller said,

okay, but look, he ran back, McGann threatened to resign over this, everybody freaked out. So look at all of the reaction around it, and this is all the substantial evidence to prove that I need for intent of your obstructive act. And so Lindsey Graham and Trump, they want to take individual phrases and words like I didn't say the words quid pro quo. There's nothing explicit here. But not that you needed anymore with these text messages, but to look at the totality of the evidence, I think is extremely damning in this case. Yes. I completely agree with you.

What? Okay. So what do we do? Yeah. Um, you know, I think right now, in many ways, like this is really unfolding in kind of a perfect way for impeachment, right? I mean, this is very simple. It's very clear. It's understandable to the public. It's there in black and white. We have the, you know, the transcript of the interview now. We have the text messages. And I think the best part is that unlike the Mueller investigation, it is coming out rapidly, one right after the other, and it's also unrelated to the Mueller investigation. And I think all of these make it a very compelling

impeachment case even for people who may have been on the fence before. And I think frankly it's gonna get worse before it gets better. Like I think there's going to be more. I still don't think we've seen all of it. Like you said, there are still those other calls. So you know know, I think we just wait and see at this point. Yeah, Buckle up. Do you think that they should keep it focused on Ukraine or if we can get this Mohammed bin Salman and Putin call and G called,

do you think that that should be subsumed into it or just sort of a side like, hey, we also found this, but this is our impeachment inquiry is focused on Ukraine. Well, yeah, I mean, I think that they should definitely try to get those calls. And I think to the extent that it is fitting a pattern of Trump leveraging his office and authority and foreign policy powers to extract, you know, concessions or make deals, you know, that benefit him personally.

I think those can be added in. I definitely think the Putin call is going to be actually relevant. I can't see how there would not be any connection to the Ukraine piece at all. Totally. So, you know, but again, without that, I think you already have a rebuttable presumption of abusive power of, you know, soliciting foreign interference in our elections. And as I mentioned, I think that this demonstrates that they were trying to run a covert sigh up on the American public.

They were totally ready to do that. And the State Department was onboarding and willing to help. As was the Department of Justice. Yeah. Yeah. It's insane. Well, I appreciate you coming on a lot. I really value your insights, especially the propaganda thing, you know, getting a foreign country to question our intelligence communities assessment of Russia being the person, you know, the entity who hacked in our 2016 elections. that blew my mind. So thank you for that. I really appreciate your insights.

Yeah, and people should read my thread. I don't know if I explained it as well, you know, on this interview, but I think the thread kind of spells out the various steps that made me reach my conclusion. Yeah, absolutely. And where can they find you on Twitter? At Asha Ringapa underscore. Perfect. Everybody check that out. Make sure that you read it. It's very detailed and a little blow your mind, especially when you drag Maniford into this craziness. So thank you again, former FBI Special Agent, lawyer, CNN analyst, awesome person. Asha Ran Goppa, thanks for coming on Mueller. She wrote today.

Thanks so much, A.G. All right, that is our show for today. That was fun. Last night was fun. Hollywood is fun. I don't want to live here, though. I know it's fun to come here and still only be here for a day.

Yeah, it's fun to come up here and play Hollywood. Yes. I think go home and be San Diego. I'm sure when they were talking about that last night. Especially for me, someone who used to live in London who now lives in San Diego, I like really value the fact that I've been like a smaller, more chill sitting out. Like I made him to LA.

We were like, everyone here, what did you say to me last night at the hotel bar? It's like a jungle of two attractive people. Oh, thank you. Yeah, we're two. Oh, yeah, attractive. And then some stressed me out. Can't take it.

Yeah. They seriously, it's too beautiful. Yeah, I do drop from an eight to a six immediately when I come to Los Angeles. Toots from San Diego. Well, I disagree with that. I'm just saying, I feel the sentiment personally also. You're not ugly, but I know what you mean. Yeah.

Basically. Love it, I love it, love it. It was just amazing to be like hanging out and talking to Lily Tomlin like a, you know, and- Hell yeah, we'll come to your party, Sally. We dance. Yeah, that is the LA. That's what people are here for, right?

I danced with Francis Fisher, the mean mom. What's from Titanic? From Titanic. No, it was his mom. Yeah, it was his mom from Titanic, the mean mom from Titanic. That's the dance with her. And we talked about your sea death fear. Oh, that's so funny.

You guys were so high coming to the back of the sea. Had a little bit of park and you're like, I'm afraid of dying at sea. Oh yeah. I mean, this makes me scared. I'm not sure if we talked about this on the show before. I think we may have. But in Nova Scotia, apparently, that was like one of the closest

biggest cities to where the Titanic, cities to where the Titanic sang. So most people from Nova Scotia had to go and collect the body. So if you grew up in Nova Scotia, you grew up learning everything Titanic. And so she's always had a fear of death. So we saw that Titanic mom lady in AG was like, this is my producer Amanda.

She's a terrifying dying of sea. Take a picture with us. And you were in Titanic. And she was like, OK. She high five does. Yeah, it was great. She was wearing an awesome RBG shirt. Yes. I love her shirt. There's some great t-shirts at the Peach of Party last time. Oh, yes. Trump grabbed my country's build, see you in T.R.Y. Trump grabbed my country and peach the motherfucker with Steph shirt. That was great. Yeah, that was the Trump got my country those

Trish. Yeah, yeah Steph friend. Yeah, so friends rad and then Jody who appears on the show She was there they she had a whistle around her neck with her the whistleblower everybody had these whistles I just remember Lily Tomlin walking around the party blown on the whistle like there's a cut out of a Putin's head just hanging around. Yeah, Kim Jong-un. Yeah, so funny. And it was funny because Judy Tanuda was sitting and she had the two giant cut out heads like next to her and she's a tiny tiny person. She is literally a petite flower. She's not joking. And she's got these two giant head cut out heads of Kim Jong-un and Putin like next to her tiny little cute face and it was just adorable.

Yeah, that was great. I'm excited for the other party that's going to happen when this actually goes to him. Yes. Yeah, I'm going to have to call up Stephanie and be like, let me help out with this one. So that you, we talked about renting like a fucking ballroom. That would be amazing. earlier on in the podcast days Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah We're gonna do that huh when we thought it was the Mueller report that was gonna lead to this and now here we are We need to have a party in LA when he's in peach. No, yeah, maybe I'm sure Steph will have another one Dude, they'll be the fucking biggest party in the goddamn world. Yeah. Oh my god

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