Jack - Cambridge Analytica

Episode Date: March 26, 2018

This week we break down Cambridge Analytica, the connection between Broidy and Nader, and how Guccifer 2.0 screwed up bigly; plus all the week’s news! We’re also joined by a MSW favorite & host of Tonight in San Diego, Jesse Egan! Enjoy! 

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Yeah. We do have a correction from last week, guys. Well, more of an, I didn't know this declaration, but now I know the judge presiding over Manifort's case. I thought it might be a woman I wasn't sure. It is a man. And this is the one who's presiding over theifort's case. I thought it might be a woman I wasn't sure. It is a man. And this is the one who's presiding over the Virginia case, not the DC case.

His name is Judge Ellis. And he's a really tough judge, which is good for if you're on our side. So thanks to Kimberly Phillips for that detail. She works in that office. So nice. Thank you very much, Kimberly, for that info. All right, this week's hot notes,

Jesse's gonna cover the New York Times article on the Nader Brody document dump. And Jalice is going to talk to us about new revelations surrounding Goosefer 2.0. And I'll be discussing Cambridge Analytica. But let's start with all the week's news in just the facts. Okay, last weekend, Trump went on a Twitter tirade, calling out Mueller by name for the first time, including tweets like, quote, why does Mueller have 13 hardened Democrats and some big crooked Hillary supporters and zero Republicans? And another favorite quote, the Mueller probe should never have started, in that there was no collusion and there was no crime.

It was based on a fraudulent activity and a fake dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary and the DNC with improperly used. It was improperly used in a FISA court for surveillance on my campaign. Which hunt? He's sticking to the story. He is. He is. So let's break down these tweets real quick because this is hilarious to me.

First of all, he says, why does Mueller have 13 hardened Democrats and some Hillary supporters? First, Mr. Trump, you were once a Democrat and a Hillary supporter. So shut up. Secondly, it's not Mueller's fault that the most amazing legal minds happen to be Democrats. It's not my fault. I like the term hardened Democrats. What the hell does that mean? I don't know. As opposed to those snowflakes. Yeah, I guess maybe he's saying we're not snowflakes anymore.

I wish he'd lost Democrats. Yeah, I like it. Fair weather, Democrats. I thought there were Republicans mainly though. Well, there's like nine Republicans and 12 Democrats. Maybe that's what I mean. Maybe a Republican is just a hardened Democrat. You leave the Democrat out too long,

and you can't hurt it. He's really gotten stiff. It gets crusty. It's a Republican now. Yeah, that would explain a lot. Christy Democrats. Totally, I think you might be right. And then how can he say, zero Republicans

on the Mueller team? Muller. Yeah. Muller is a Republican. Then Trump said, quote, the Mueller investigation was based on the fake dossier paid for by Hillary. Dude, the new Nes memo refutes this. The one you signed and released without talking to the FBI

or the Department of Justice, quote, the DNC improperly used the dossier in a FISA court for surveillance of my campaign. First of all, the FISA court is called the Fisk, you dipshit. Now, I understand maybe many of our listeners don't know that, but the guy who runs it, who's fucking in charge of it, might know. And the president probably should know, I think.

Yeah, that's who I met. At least for for you. Oh, yeah, sorry, of course. You're right, it's scary to think that he runs it, but he's in charge of that whole area. It was used to surveil Carter Page, not your campaign. Carter Page left your campaign well before he started getting picked up and surveilled again by the FBI.

And I say again by the FBI, because it's been a few times. The first FISA warrant was granted after he left. So, anyway, and that's all according to the new Nez memo. That's your boy's memo. So many believe that his attacking Mueller by name for the first time is Trump testing the waters of Congress to see who gives a shit, basically. And a few Republicans did speak out against the firing of Mueller, including Lindsey Graham, Bob Corker, Orrin Hatch,

Jean Shaheen, Marco Rubio, and Paul Ryan. Though Paul Ryan wrote it, he didn't speak it. Trump's lawyer Ty Cobb released a statement saying, again, that Trump was not thinking about firing special counsel. Oh, and Trump, I know you listen. Special counsel is COUNSEL, not C-I-L. So just, you know. And you know, I mean, they're homophones. So, you know, he might not,

and that's not a gay term, Mr. President. That just means they're two words spell differently that sound the same. That's what a homophone is. I feel like I'm taking him to school right now. Yeah, that was a fun one for me to learn. I haven't heard that since, like, second grade. Yeah, I love it.

Well, it's very hard, like, the Marine Corps. Isn't that the other? The CORE, yeah. Like the Apple Corps of the Marines. Hardened Democrats on the Marine Corps. Yeah, when you eat a Marine, you're left with a Corps. A Corps. That's with the Marine Corps.

The inner Corps of the Marine Corps. There you go. So also over the weekend, a few Democrats offered to hire Andy McCabe. Remember Andy McCabe was fired by Jeff Sessions, Trump. Last week because of his lack of candor because he can back up Comey's memo. We all know what's really going on. This was when he had one day left on his retirement.

Yeah, I'd look 48 hours. So all these Democrats are coming forward saying, hey, well, hire you, man. Well, hire you, buddy. And then you, man? Well, how are you, buddy? And then you can get your two days and then you can get your pension. He hasn't taken any offers. And I wouldn't do that if I were him. Why not?

Well, first, he can do that after this is all over. Okay. He doesn't have to do it in any given time period. Right, there's no rush. And doing it now could look partisan. Like he's teaming up with Democrats. And he needs to be credible in his testimony against Trump Yeah in the Mueller probe it could also interfere with any appeal or lawsuit he might bring against

The administration for wrongful termination Maybe if a Republican offered to hire him it wouldn't look so inappropriate It will happen But like I said he can really wait until this is all done and then go to work for two days for somebody and get his pension. After it's all said and done. We learned Kushner falsified New York housing paperwork. Basically, he was reporting that he had no rent protected tenants when he did and he worked

to drive them out. So... them out. So then on Sunday we learned Dan Scavino's wife filed for divorce and remember Julie so this is the guy you went. This is your buddy. Yeah he's a social media guy for Trump like he's one of the few people in charge of his Twitter and he's known Trump his whole life since he was a teenager and really admire him. We're just finding out now there's someone in charge of his Twitter. You know, it's interesting. Yeah, people are saying that like you can't tell which one, like from the last episode

we mentioned this, like Trump is the one who does like the misspellings and the late night crazy Twitter. Yeah. And Skibbino's all the, oh, I can't believe Trump said that. That's actually pretty decent. Skibino's the one who's used his words like sanctimonious. And choir boy. We're positive that Skibino is not just an alter ego for Trump.

Like Andy Kaufman. Yeah, that's a good question. We should find out. Listen, Bethany. Well, there's pictures of them together. And here's, here's a. Trump's Tony Clifton. It is.

It's Tony Clifton. He kind of looks like him too. Let's see. He started out as a caddy at Trump's club. Oh. And then worked his way up to be manager of the snack bar. And then worked his way up to be, I don't know, ball washer. He ended up managing that club.

And then he's just been kind of a mentee to Trump this whole time. OK. And now he's the official Twitter not reader. Yeah, I think his official title is like one of the communications advisors. Advisors, yeah, what hopes Hick, hope Hick stayed basically. He did a bit of that, yeah. Yeah, he's the only one who, he's the only other one who has access to Trump's Twitter.

So interesting. Like to log in and tweet. Not that lawyer that claimed that they had composed that tweet. I guess they would say, yeah. He's the other guy that has access. Yeah, well, I don't think that lawyer had access. I don't buy it. Yeah.

So his wife is filing for divorce. We also learned from the Washington Post that Trump makes all of his White House staffers sign non-disclosure agreements with $10 million penalties attached, which is against the Constitution. But you know, that old thing. That's the only time he's ever gone against the Constitution, so we'll let him have this one. That's a lie. We also found out over the weekend that Mueller has submitted a list of questions to the White

House. According to the New York Times, it was upon receiving this list of questions that Trump went off on his Twitter tie-rated land lasting the investigation. Wow. So he sent over some questions and then Trump got all. The big four. I don't know if this is connected to the big four,

but it might be. And then it was leaked later in the week and we'll go over that. So Monday, that was over the weekend. I was like, wait, Monday, that was weekend news. Then Monday, Trump hired a new attorney. And this is a conspiracy theorist that he saw on Fox and friends like a year ago, who believes that Trump has been framed by the FBI. He believes that the FBI in the Department of Justice wanted Hillary to win and when she didn't,

they set out to frame Donald Trump for these crimes. Hmm. So. This is D. DeGeneva. DeGeneva. The name is Joe DeGeneva and here's something I didn't know. DeGeneva is also representing Corallo. Um, Corallo was the legal spokesperson for the Trump legal team and he quit after he witnessed Trump and company drafting a false statement about the June 2016 meeting on Air Force 1.

So there could be a conflict of interest there. That was the adoption excuse letter. Exactly. When they when they decided to say that the that the meeting in trump tower was about adoptions Russian adoptions Despite the emails that came out from dt junior later saying it was about dirt on Hillary and that he loved it sure So Corallo quit upon that and yeah, then he's being represented by De Genova Interesting and if Corallo is a witness against Trump and an obstruction of justice case, Carallo cannot represent or I'm sorry DeGeneva can't represent Carallo and Trump because they're against each other.

Love it. Be a conflict of interest. DeGeneva's wife represents Sam Clovis. Clovis was the radio personality guy that became the architect of Trump's National Security Council that included Schmitz and Page and Pop-A-Dop and Ferras and all those dipshits. And that could be a conflict of interest as well. Also on Monday, a whole ton of news started to drop about Cambridge Analytica and Alexander Nick's the CEO. He's the CEO of the parent company of Cambridge Analytica. Okay. I'll be going over this in detail later. But as you know, last week we reported that Cambridge Analytica stole 50 million

Facebook user data, users data, and use it to manipulate the election. Yeah. So that's... Zuckerberg apologized. Yeah. My bad. Oops.

We learned that Trump's lawyers had their first face-to-face meeting with Mueller's team just before Trump went nuts on Twitter last weekend. That's probably when he was presented with the questions. And that Trump's lawyers have turned over now a bunch of written summaries of events as they saw them happen of interest to the Mueller team in hopes that that would satisfy the special counsel's inquiries. Wow.

And they've tried a few things, too. Like they sat down saying, we can write 25 questions that we'll be willing to answer. And if we do, then you have to stop the investigation in 60 days. Like they've just tried all these tactics while they're trying to negotiate this. Exactly. And who knows where they're going now

with this conspiracy theory guy at the helm? These White House lawyers, like, he also has that personal lawyer, John Dow, that just quit. Was that one of them that was? It was down in Secular. Those are the two lawyers that are running the, they were heading up the Russian investigation. Secular was still there, and a guy named Cassowitz.

It's not McGann who's the White House lawyer, and it's not his personal lawyer, Cohen. Those are different people. He's got a lot of lawyers. He does. Yeah. You know, sign number one. Yeah. Um, Tuesday, Paul Ryan said that he had been assured that firing Mueller was not under consideration, despite Trump tweeting directly at him all weekend. Yeah. Okay. It's ridiculous. Uh, we also learned Trump was trying to hire a guy named Ted Olson. He's a longtime Republican lawyer. He was also the solicitor general under Bush. Very well respected Republican legal mind. A lot of legal analysts and lawyers really respect that guy.

Trump asked Olson last year if he would represent him and he turned him down then. And we would find out later in the week that he turned him down again. them down then. And we would find out later in the week that he turned them down again. Really? Now this is not the expert in impeachment proceeding. Nope, that was Emmett T. Flood, who apparently... What a great name. I know, he's doing some hazard all the way. Emmett T. Flood, that's really close to Elmer Fud. It is.

I think it's the Roscoe P. Coltrane. Oh, I love it. Who reminds me of... Kukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukukuk-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g rejected Now is that was that prior to or after Dowd quit that he's asking for more lawyers this before and after okay, but we got the news after Dowd quit And a lot of people are speculating as to why Dowd quit and if Dowd had been saying for a while now He can't take anymore Trump doesn't listen to me. He actually said that. Yeah, he doesn't listen to me. Which we all knew, but I guess this guy's finally had enough, right? Like he's just like, I can't do anything at all. Yeah, I think, yeah, he was like, and

then when he pulled, pulled DeGeneva on, he's like, I'm not going to sit here and say that this was a frame job. Was there a straw you think that broke the camel's back there with that? Like, was there one piece of instruction that he gave him recently that he ignored? I mean, I remember them saying that they advised him not to praise Putin after he won the election and yet he did that anyway. That wasn't legal advice. That was national security advice. I think the last straw for Dowd was hiring DeGeneva. Okay, I do. I haven't asked him personally, but that's what I think.

You let me know what he says. And in fact, that day, when he picked up DeGeneva, Dowd threatened to leave. That's when he said, Trump doesn't listen to me. So it's pretty clear, yeah. Now the week before that,

Dowd had tried to get them to just shut the investigation down period, right? Didn't he kind of come out and say this, you know, yeah, they said that Rosenstein should follow in the genius foot steps, the sessions and shut down this investigation. So that was sort of his last ditch. Like, can you just shut this down? No, all right, I quit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is Hail Mary right there. This is the last chance, Saloon. Yeah. So, anyway, Dow would end up resigning on Thursday.

And then I'm wondering if Cobb is on his way out too, Ty Cobb. Mm-hmm. So we'll see. Now Ty Cobb is another personal lawyer, that's a White House lawyer. That's his personal lawyer handling the Russian investigation. The Colonel, right? That's the one. Yeah, that's the one with handling the Russia investigation. The Colonel, right? That's the one.

Yeah, that's the one with the mustache. Hello. Hello. It's very southern. How do you do that, Keech? Plantation owner. It looks like he should sort of sell fried chicken maybe or something. Yeah, definitely.

Like he stole some black slaves' recipe. Yeah. Just like that. Oh my god, really? So I'm guessing he's going to abandon all normal lawyers, lawyers Trump and he'll probably just focus on this conspiracy thing. But when he finds out DeGenernava can't wrap him, he's gonna have a bit. DeGenernava would toss his other client, right? Yeah, he could get rid of Carolo for sure.

And then to what you were talking about, Jesse, Trump his security advisers and congratulated Putin on his electoral win. McCain denounced this move, saying, quote, an American president does not lead the free world by congratulating dictators on winning sham elections. Unquote. And yes, yeah. Why only McCain? Why is McCain the only one that'll come out and say something? Because he's dying. Yeah, it's all the Republicans who are dying or retiring. Yeah, you have to be on your way out for you to stand up to this person.

Yeah. I guess so. Trump congratulated Putin despite notes given to him by his national security team, saying in all caps, do not congratulate. But as we know, he doesn't like to read. He's proclaimed. Right. They should have put his name on it or something right and I don't know if they briefed him I don't know if we don't know if they if he ignored them. Yeah, or if he just didn't read it right or if he's afraid of Putin All three possible like can he ignore it and not be able to read yeah

They should try reverse psychology on him right, you know like if the memo was like make sure to praise potent and have like I'm not gonna do it now. Yeah, no way security advisor Who needs you The the story got out to the Washington Post really quickly and Many in in the administration were upset that the story leaked There always upset about leaks leaks, but not crimes. But this one's pretty big. This one's pretty big because only super top people

were around during that call. So that means a super top person leaked this shit. Yes. I think it was McMaster. That's why Bolton visited the White House on Thursday. Trump found out it was McMaster, and he was already on the outs because of his tough talk on Russia after the nerve gas attack on Sergei Skrapal and his daughter. And just earlier in the week, Tillerson had been fired. And his last

thing that he did was talk tough on Russia. So I think that that's what happened. And actually when I tweeted, I said McMaster has hours. Yeah, wow and within hours He was he was out. It's crazy. Who is left? Nobody Kelly and I think Kelly and Conway had a hat-jack to destroy her. Yeah, it's the only person left from her and Pence Mother of Dragons breaker of the hatchet We'll get there. We'll get there. Okay. The story about band-ins oversight Of the Facebook data breach at Cambridge Analytica broke Tuesday and we'll get there. The story about Bannon's oversight of the Facebook data breach at Cambridge Analytica broke Tuesday and we'll cover that more in detail.

Everybody's involved in Cambridge. On Wednesday we found out that Nunez is being investigated by the FEC, that's the Federal Election Commission for possible campaign violations. I wonder if the FEC was tipped off by Mueller's team. That would be awesome, or maybe the FBI or DOJ. Nunez, as you know, is the recused and bewildered former head of the House Intelligence Committee, which, who just last week ended his investigation, decided to end the House investigation into Russia. I'll be recovering the Republicans' findings, the majority report, in a mini-sode this week.

So, if you're a patron, look for that. Yeah. That's going to be a good one. We did the minority report last week, so I figured we'd do the majority report in a mini-sode this week. So if you're a patron, look for that. Yeah. That's gonna be a good one. We did the minority report last week, so I figured we'd do the majority report in this week. It's nice, yeah. The Mueller investigation let us know the four main areas of questions that they have for Trump.

And they include the firing of Comey, the firing of Flynn, the meeting, which I'm just gonna call the June 9th, 2016 meeting, the meeting from the... The meeting from the... The meeting. And drafting the message about the meeting aboard Air Force One.

So we'll be going over all the ramifications of this in another exclusive mini-sode this week. So you wanna check that out. That one's gonna be really fun. We're gonna talk about these four areas and what they might mean for the investigation kind of gives us an insight as to what Mueller is looking at. Yeah. Who wants to hear from Trump's mouth, his explanation on those four topics, huh?

Yeah. He's got a lot of questions for him. Probably questions he already knows the answers to. Right. And has documentation to back up. He rarely brings people in for interviews if he's fishing. Yeah. He fishes in the small pond and then gets all the info and then goes after the big day. He finally did him. He would do all his research, you know it. He'd be like, well, Allison, I know you don't like white chocolate. Like we're going out for sushi. Whoa, dude.

Yeah, but I can't have a night to myself, right? Seriously. Like, well, I understand that you're a hardened Democrat. He'd be like, where were you tonight? I'm like, you tell me, man. You tell me. You know. Also on Wednesday, the New York Times released documents between

Nader and Broidy, new documents regarding Saudi Arabia, which may have influenced the White House's policy on Qatar. We learned a few weeks back that Kushner's dad tried to get a loan from cutter and they turned him down. So now we have competing reasons that the policy on cutter took a 180 because we've been friends with cutter for a long time. We have a base there with like 8,000 troops. Well a lot of troops. So but Jesse's gonna go over this article a little bit later in the show. And that's how you say that, huh? This whole time I was thinking it's Quattar.

Yeah, I thought Cattar. So people say Cattar. Some people say Cattar. Legend of Cattar. Yeah, I like that. I say Cattar because it's what Trump's going to become after all this. Pours Cattar is a delicious Middle Eastern beer. No, it's not.

I didn't think there was such a thing. That's a 90-spere. Man, I'll call it. No, it's not. It's a 90-spere. That's a 90-spere. Later on Wednesday, the intercept reported that Imbisa said he got Jared Kushner in his pocket. Now note that this is Imbisa. Not Imbisa. Muhammad bin Salman is the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, whereas Muhammad bin Zayed al-Nayan, he's the crown prince of Abu Dhabi,

and in charge of everything in the UAE, the United Arab Emirates. So UAE is in Baza, Saudi Arabia is in Baza, MBS. It sounds like bowel problems. Right. Well in Baza, the Saudi guy bragged to in Baza, the UAE guy, that Kushner, he's got Kushner in his pocket. And that was after Kushner made an unannounced trip

to Riyadh last year, Riyadh last year. And apparently Kushner briefed the crown prince on all Saudi leaders that were disloyal to the crown. Yee. Yeah. It's important, that's Intel right there. I don't know if you got that from a security briefing and took it over to the Saudis to tell his buddy Or he just knew who doesn't seem so many people have Kushner in their pocket because he's a he's an easy target

I remember remember when the four countries is real UAE turkey and They're all targeting Kushner. Yeah, they were all they were all saying he's an easy target man Go after the guy he's a league compromise. Well Go after this guy. He is a league compromise. Well, he owes $1.2 billion on his $66,66 fifth avenue property. So he'll pretty much do anything. Oh my gosh. You know, so he'll do anything for you. This could be why he never got his security clearance

because he's just so easily compromised. It's probably exactly why he didn't, and then I'll have his crooked business dealings in those countries. And his face, sorry. His face is actually kind of cute. And he's like, I think adorable. Do you put that on? It's cute.

Okay, Kushner's not cute to me. No. It's strangely cute. Scary to me. Oh, you think Putin is cute? I think Putin has the smirk on his face at all times that just gets to me. Yeah, because he's going to kill you. I know, but something about it, I can change him.

You like fear? I can change him. Just an easy fixer upper that Putin Yeah, his ex-wife called him a vampire so I don't know You're gonna be able to do that and she was a badass Russian bitch. I bet yeah It's important to note too that the White House this week hosted the crown prince of Saudi Arabia Yes, and just signed a one billion dollar arm steel with Saudi Arabia. Wow Yeah, yeah, I'm hoping we could get our guys out of cutter before we send our guns and just signed a $1 billion arm steel with Saudi Arabia. Wow. Yeah.

So I'm hoping we could get our guys out of cutter before we send our guns over to Saudi Arabia. Yeah. I don't know. Then on Thursday, as suspected earlier in the week, Dow resigned as the head of Trump's Russia investigation legal team. Yeah.

Take this job and shove it. I ain't working in no more. I pulled my gun left and took all the reason I was working for. Seculo, one of Trump's other lawyers said he's staying and he's going to continue to cooperate with special counsel. I don't know if that's the route that Trump wants to take, but that's what Sekula was saying. I personally think they're all gonna leave. If Trump's really gonna go pivot to a total discrediting of the Mueller probe by saying he was framed and refused to answer questions because he thinks he shouldn't have to speak with an illegitimate investigator. I think that might be his tack. I think all relatively sane lawyers will step aside for that.

Like I said, Ted Olson turned him down and it T-flud turned him down. He's just going to end up being represented by Alex Jones at some point. You for T-justice. You for T-justice. You're probably totally predicting the future right now. That's who I was thinking. New attorneys from Info Wars. Anyone has ever seen who what is that smoky in the band? Cannonball run.

Oh, is it smoking the band? He was in Cannonball run too. Jackie Gleason. I'll Google it. Yeah. There you go. You for tea justice. Okay.

I think it's going to be DeGeneva, which means Kerala will have to get a better lawyer. Yeah. And Muller will be left either writing his report without Trump's input or he'll compel Trump to testify with his subpoena. He could also simply indict the president. Yeah. But we know there's legal questions

about the feasibility of that. We've gone over that in previous episodes, particularly episode seven. I think we covered it pretty, pretty handling. Go back and check that out if you, if you so desire. But remember, our sound quality has gotten decidedly better. The Associated Press announced, and what a shock, that the Trump administration approved that $1 billion arm sale to Saudi Arabia.

And includes more than 6,500 missiles. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It's scary. Could you imagine them all coming at you at once? Like, what is life? 6500 missiles. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Scary. Could you imagine them all coming at you at once?

Like, what is life? Like, what is life? They would be aimed at our enemy. They probably are ran. True. Unless Trump somehow centered in the wrong direction. I just, I have no faith. Like in Superman.

No. Old Superman. Two. We also learned Thursday that Gusef are slipped up and revealed that he's not a lone actor. Oh, oh. Old Superman, too. We also learned Thursday that Goosefair slipped up and revealed that he's not a lone actor, but a Russian spy. Jealousy has that review act all surprised, but you have this report. I'm really excited every time. It's my favorite news.

That's me, that's me. This is huge deal, you guys. This is a huge deal, because this was member one Trump was like, I don't know if it was Russians could be China. It's a 400 pound gun. It's got 400 pound gun. I think that was a setup to was like it's a good I don't know if it was Russians could be China it's a 400 pound gun is good 400 pound gun is cash I think that was a setup to say that it was goose if it was a lone actor yeah and he was trying to pump that he knew yeah that's why I think he said that kind of like if you can get the 30,000 emails he knew yeah oh yeah now that's speculation

right but very educated oh. Oh, my God. We also, oh, late Thursday, Rosenstein put out a media alert that he would be making a major cyber crime announcement to the press Friday morning at 10 o'clock EDT, Eastern Daylight Time. We all thought for sure this would be the second round of Russian indictments. I thought it was going to be, everybody on Twitter thought it was going to be, we were all speculating. Yeah.

Turns out it was an announcement that nine Iranians were being indicted in the Southern District of New York for hacking into university systems and stealing research The reason we all thought this would be about Russia is because if it weren't it would probably Stand a reason that Jeff Sessions would make the announcement They sent Rosenstein when it has to do when it has to do with Russia. They sent Rosenstein when it has to do, when it has to do with Russia, they have Rosenstein do it. It's a great point. Or if it has to do with Hillary's emails, because sessions is also recused in those cases. I'm still not convinced it's somehow tied to the Russian investigation. You're not convinced that it's not. I'm not convinced that it's not. Got it. Yeah. It could also have been a move orchestrated by the Department of Justice to make it harder

to fire Rosenstein. With these indictments of Iranians, Trump is anti-Iranian, the new Secretary or National Security Advisor, John Bolton, is hot hates Iran. So, if he does this thing against Iran and then Trump fires him, he'll be like, you had to have fired me because of the Mueller investigation. Exactly. Not because I'm not doing a good job. That's a really good point.

Wow. So anyway, it would just look extra suspicious if they fired him now. But I don't know what the tie could be. It could be Mueller found this while he was looking at other things. Because we don't normally, like, I mean, it just seems like the kind of news that,

I don't know, we don't get, this is all after the DNC hack that we're having these like crazy intrusions. So the connection just may be the fact that it's picking up the pace of a foreign hacks and... Yeah, or he was looking into something and he intercepted communications with Iran between maybe some maybe Gusefer worked for them or something. I'd like who knows. Yeah, I guess, hopefully we'll find out.

We might, we might never find out. We may never know. So sad. We'll just have to write it in the movie the way we want it. Damn it. Yeah. A report out Thursday evening showed that the Republicans in the House

Intel Committee missed 81 things in their investigation. We went over that last week in our mini-sode about the minority report, so we could have told you that. Yeah. They missed a lot, though. Over 30 interviews, document dumps from at least 15 entities and several lines of questioning that never got answered. And we're going to be going over all that

and the majority report, what they did come up with. Right. We're just so stupid. They missed all the crimes somehow. Yeah, all of it. They just skirted all of it. That's amazing. Yeah.

To fire a million shots and miss every major one. That's that again. Yeah. It's like Nordberg. Friday, we learned that the Republicans and House Intelligence Committee refused to hold a hearing with Mark Zuckerberg, the embattled CEO of Facebook and the wake of the camera Janolita Leaks, showing that the Trump campaign effectively stole the data of 50 million users. All of this on the tail of the HIC, the House Intelligence Committee Republicans voting

to close the investigation, shutter the investigation into the Russian election interference. Yeah, how corrupt is that look? Did you say, hey, there's nothing to see here, and they're coming up with crimes left and right behind you, like, 13 indictments of Russian spot. I mean, like, how do you just go, nothing to see here and they're coming up with crimes left and right right behind you like 13 indictments of Russian spot. I mean like how do you just go? No nothing to see here. Let's close this down That's what they did. They shut it all down. Yeah, it seems like it's the whole idea of fake news like which is crazy I think that it's so effective But if you tap into like the distrust that people have for the government

You can convince them that anything is possible and like that's what's happening. They're like well That's what the Russians do. That's their MO. So all of this, Cam Anna, they won't, Cam Anna is what I call Cam Reginald, if you hear me say Cam Anna, that's what I'm talking about. It's like the J-Lo of these candles. Yeah, it's the El Camino, it's the buttless car of data companies. Yeah, so all this stuff,

and they should just shut down the investigation, just like you said. Yeah. All right, come on, nothing to see here, please express. So also on Friday, the Cambridge Analytica Blueprint for Trump's victory was leaked. There's a 27-page presentation that they gave to Trump.

Here's your gave to Trump. Here's your path to victory. I was going to leak that. They didn't leak it. It X, well, an X employee leak. Got it. So I'll go over that more in detail a little later on in the show. We learned the Trump campaign encouraged Papa Dopplerist to reach out to the Russians.

He was encouraged. We've all known this really, but there wasn't any proof. Everyone's been able to say he was acting alone, he's doing it on his own. Now, two years, yeah, we're just now getting some evidence. Yeah, now we have emails that were leaked that prove it. On Friday, the National Security Council recommended expelling Russian diplomats. This was McMaster's last act as a national security adviser. This is last double barrel middle fingers to Trump putting out a public recommendation yeah to expel Russian diplomats now it's up to Trump to either take the recommendation or ignore it and you know I know yeah what do you guys think so yeah I'll take a poll

yes so he definitely right away expelled McMaster. Yes. Yeah, that's who got expelled. Right. Late Friday night, Cambridge Analytica was rated in the UK. When reached for comment, Paul Manafort said, yeah, that should suck, bro. I feel your pain. Those five AM, no knock rate suck ass. Yeah, those are not the best. We also found out that John Kelly was about to fire secretaries Shulken of the VA and Carson

of HUD, the housing and urban development. But Trump interrupted all that by firing McMaster. He did that. He fired McMaster 90 minutes before the Karen McDougal interview aired. That Playboy bunny told her story. So now the Stormy Daniels interview is this weekend. It's gonna happen before this show comes out. What is that gonna be on Kimmel or what is it?

60 minutes. Oh geez. Yeah, it's gonna get real. Why did I think it was Kimmel? Yeah, there'll be no like crude jokes just real journalism. And so what do you guys think he's gonna try to do to distract a Sunday? If you fired McMaster to distract us from Mac

Doge all that so few people left you could be minutian. He's been talking about going. Oh, yeah That sucks. He could fire the secretaries that Kelly wanted to fire Carson and Shulkin, okay, but that might not be big enough news exactly Rosenstein He could Maddell has her money on Trump pardoning Flynn. Whoa. She thinks of pardoned Flynn on Sunday. I think he'll fire John Kelly. I took a poll on Twitter. 62% thought Kelly would be the next to

be fired. 24% said Maddow. Yeah, it's very likely. Kelly is the guy. The Rosenstein is coming up. Yeah, it's only a matter of time. So you think that would be the news to distract from a Stormy Daniels interview. Interesting. And what do you think the Stormy Daniels interview will say is just to confirm basically that she had this affair and the-

Yes, she has evidence, she claims. So hopefully she'll talk more about what that evidence that she was paid off 130,000 Here she's got a blue dress evidence. Yeah, right. Yeah, she's actual physical evidence That's what she's saying. She took a picture of a DVD and said if a picture is worth a thousand words How much is this worth if there was a one sex tape in the universe? I did not want to get out it would be any of them with Trump in But if it takes him down, you know what,

so be it for the greater good. We'll watch him. Oh God. It's interesting that these all of these are coming out at once, right? There's the Stormy Daniels, then there's the Karen McDougal. Well, I think Stormy Daniels defying her NDA gave

the others like a, yeah. Yeah. There's another for 150,000, right? Which one was that? The Playboy girl? Yes, that was her. Because there's three different women right now. Right, I was forget that there's one.

So I guess I could go either way. But her story might be focused on next week. Oh wow. Oh wow. Because if Bill Clinton was like so tarnished for one, I mean Trump is already like he's the new watergate, he's the new Clinton like. Yeah. He's setting records.

Mm-hmm, good for him. Yeah well yeah he's really trying to out-knit and next year. Yeah I think for him a legacy just in general is better than like nothing at all so he'll go down for infamy and that's something. Oh he's already going to do that. Yeah. Well then to avoid a government shutdown on Friday, Congress passed an omnibus spending bill on Friday night.

They had to do this by LM59 to prevent a government shutdown, and now the government's funded through September. Now there's a lot of defense spending, military spending in this, but the best part of this bill, other than the fact that it lifts that rule that bans the CDC from studying gun violence, they're allowed to do that now. And that's huge. Yeah. Somebody and we don't know who, but someone snuck Russian sanctions into the bill. Yeah. Yeah. A 12 or 15 page pretty comprehensive amount of Russian sanctions. Trumptest, right? Well, I don't know if he knows.

I'm sure he knows now because the story's out. Yeah. But I don't know if he knew it when he signed it. All right. That's what my speculations should be. He didn't read the whole thing. Yeah, nobody read the whole thing. And so somebody came in, wrote that in, put it in there. There was some agreement amongst the people who knew about it and read it, and they said, yeah, let's see. And they did it.

That is so badass. I know it's like common practice in politics to try to sneak something in. But I also think it's cool that they got away with this. If McCain weren't in the hospital, I would think it was him. Yeah. Maybe from the hospital.

Could be Burr. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I don't know. I don't know. It's part of the movie. Bolton replaced McMaster as National Security Advisor. And shortly after that that NPR reported that Bolton was an early beneficiary of Cambridge Analytica. In that same report, NPR

published an old video of Bolton in a right-to-bear arms promo. If you remember, last week, right-to-bear arms is an organization headed by Torshin, the Russian NRA connection, and Bhutina. That's the woman who asked Trump if what he would do about sanctions at freedom fast. And we added all three of them to our fantasy indictment, like last week. So Trump is appointing a national security advisor, closely linked to two ongoing FBI counterintelligence investigations. Right. So that's good.

So, you know, Flynn all over again. Yeah. Yeah. All right, you guys, that all over again. Yeah, yeah. Geez. All right, you guys, that's the week's news. So, yeah. And you said there wasn't a lot of news. That was plenty of news. Yeah, it usually is.

It seems like when there's not, it's still a ton. Exactly. All right, guys, we'll be right back. Molar, she wrote, would like to thank Podbean for featuring our podcast during the life of the Molar investigation and recognizing us as contributors to an important topic. Try the Podbean app today, and you can also become a patron through Podbean and support us for as little as $1.

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article was New York Times, this is my assignment, and it was titled How to Golf, How to Golf Monarchy, Saw to Influence the White House by David Karpak and Mark Mazetti. I had to read it several times to get this straight, but it's mostly about two important figures. One is George Nader. George Nader is a political advisor to the de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates, who I had mentioned earlier is a Crown Prince. Yeah, that's in Beza. In Beza. In Beza. So George Nader happens to now be a cooperating witness in the special counsel investigation. And that's what brings us into this topic here. So Nader worked for over a year to influence the White House via a top Trump fundraiser named Elliot Broydee. Now I had to do a little research to figure out exactly who Elliot Broydee is, is the deputy finance chairman of the

Republican National Committee. And it was tempted with the prospect of over a billion dollars in contracts for his private security company, which is called Circus Circus Circus is a security company and it's a private company that he was getting a lot of money for through Nader. Nader helped deliver deals worth over $200 million with the United Arab Emirates. And he also flattered Brody about how well this man dealt with Trump, meaning I guess he felt like he was able to manipulate the White House and Trump through this guy Brody. Right.

So, Nader was also an intermediary for Saudi Arabia's crown prince, Muhammad bin Salman. And Siza. I think you just mentioned just met with Trump on Tuesday. Yep. So, Nader was pushing the White House to remove Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, because Nader has this thing he's trying to get tougher on Iran and Qatar. Am I saying they were Qatar? Yes. Welcome back Qatar. Yes. And of course, Tillerson was fired last week and then immediately according to this article, the President adopted tough approaches to both Iran and welcome back a tar.

Right. So it's pretty complicated deal, but basically just recently, Nader was granted immunity in this deal for his cooperation with Mueller. So Mueller has gotten him to say a bunch of stuff, and in fact, even called him back for additional testimony just recently.

Yeah, they gave him full immunity now. That's new this week. He didn't have full immunity before, he was just cooperating. Yeah, so he must have a lot of extra dirt. Easy detail. Yeah. They wanted to question about his possible role in funneling Emirati money to Trump's political efforts and doing it in this sort of indirect way of giving it to this broiti fellow. They're examining the role of foreign money in the Trump administration period. But so the start of this whole article is that all these documents were released, emails and contracts and all this stuff in between these two men documents for released emails and contracts and all this stuff in between these two men

Was provided to the New York Times by an anonymous group that's critical of Mr. Brody's advocacy of American foreign policies in the Middle East so I did it Yeah, bro, we don't know who did but a spokesman for Brody says he believes the documents are stolen by hackers in Welcome back Qatar. I hope it was the same guy who snuck the thing into the bill. Right. Who snuck the sanctions. Who snuck that, yeah really. Qatar, by the way.

Because they might have that information in the House Intelligence Committee. Yeah. Like Adam Schiff might have that classified information. Adam Schiff might have been the one who snuck that in Russian sanctions into the bill. That would be crazy. Although I think it was a senator probably bad enough i don't know it's now hopefully it's fun to speculate yes and and you really don't know how deep the stuff goes i mean it once they start

investigating it you see that there's so much money involved in uh... this guy mister broity was a long time republican donor vice-chairman of the inaugural fundraising committee and definitely has some influence over Trump's policy. So it's interesting to see how this guy, a nader, who's a US citizen who's born in Lebanon, but was in formal, emissary to Syria under Bill Clinton. Yeah, he was a go-between for the Clinton. And then side note, piss of information, it's kind of interesting.

Would later work for Vice President Dick Cheney. Oh. What a sweet fellow. God of you. A good guy. I wonder if he's with his rifle, rifle reinstrucker. Oh my God. He teaches how to shoot your friends in the face.

Oh, gun control. Such a hot issue right now. But all these documents came out and it basically shows how Brody and Nader corresponded about persuading the U.S. government to take action against the Muslim Brotherhood and a Qatar specifically. So the Saudis and the Emirates, I don't know if I'm saying that right, but they all have very warm relationship with the Trump administration. And when they follow this trail, they see that NATO paid Broiti $2.7 million for, quote, consulting, marketing, and other advisory services. Probably I'm speculating that you couldn't donate directly to the campaign because of

policies prohibiting donations from foreign governments and governments that are not democracies. So the payment was made by the Emirates based on this based company that Nader controls was then paid to an obscure firm in Canada controlled by Broiti. So, very sort of circumventing. Roundabout way of paying, but the documents show that lawyers for Broiti discussed an agreement to share profits with Nader from businesses that he and his company

would set up in Saudi Arabia and the Emirates. Now, I also want everybody to remember the Marshall Plan. This is the plan that Flynn and Cops and were texting about on the day of the inauguration when Trump was being sworn in. This is the McFarland Mayflower Plan for a long time, is to give Saudi Arabia nuclear power capabilities and to build reactors in the Middle East, particularly in Saudi Arabia, using Russian oil and partnering with the Russians to do so, which would require lifting of Russian sanctions. And then we would be able to build bases to guard those reactors and we would be able to pretty much put our flag in the

Middle East and take all their oil. So you got to remember the Marshall Plan behind this when you think about all this stuff with the UAE, the seashells, Eric Prince, Nader, all this money being funneled in to for policy changes to switch your policy against cutter, which we used to be very pro-cutter, and to shift to help lift Russian sanctions. All of that could point to this martial plan. Interesting. Yeah, I was curious about some of the links from this to other stuff.

Just to wrap up, basically, Nader pressed Broidy over and over to set up a private meeting outside of the White House between Trump and the leaders of the UAE, Prince Mohammed bin Zayed, who he referred to in this correspondence just as friend. So over and over, he says, you know, I really want you to meet with friend, but let's do it outside of the White House and sort of this private, they wanted to set up a private meeting.

This next piece of info, I'm not 100% clear on, but it seems that one of the last things he did, General McMaster, was to try to block this meeting, sort of this private meeting. It says Trump's National Security Advisor tried to block the request to me. That's awesome. The guy who got fired? Yeah. Okay, it's true. So, I don't know exactly all the details of that, but Broady personally urged Trump to

fire Tillerson also, which he did. Lastly, basically, this is just a side note, but I think it's kind of interesting to mention about Nader. He was complaining that Secret Service stopped him from taking a photograph with Trump sort of semi-reasonally. And Brody was like, I don't know why they would stop you. And then you look a little deeper, well, Nader, background in 1991, he pleaded guilty to federal child pornography charges and served six months and a half way house. And then in 2003, received a one year sentence in the checker public after being convicted in 10 cases of sexually abusing minors.

Oh, he did. I'll see. The last we had heard, he was charged in 1985, but all those charges were thrown out because the mountains of Kittie porn they found were not obtained with the proper warrant. There was a warrant problem. Right. That's the guy. So even though they had a room full of kitty porn, they couldn't use it as it wasn't as admissible as evidence because there's like a some sort of technical error in the warrant. Well, I think the second time he flew in from Germany or something and

they found, you know, porn videos in his luggage or something. No way. Anyway, that's just a little background on a Nader and maybe why they didn't want him taking a picture with the president. Yeah, fun fact. But Nader. That and I'm sure Trump's gonna try to distance himself from him for other reasons.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Besides the Kitty porn. On top of the Kitty porn. Because Trump's into Kitty porn, that's not the problem. Oh, good point, good point. It's the fact that, you know, he's helped him get hundreds of millions of dollars from United Arab Emirates. Yeah, which helped influence White House policy on cutter and probably was part of the Marshall Plan to get And and if you remember just recently Rick Perry canceled a trip to India our energy secretary to go to Saudi Arabia to talk about nuclear

Yeah, yeah and giving, to go to Saudi Arabia to talk about nuclear reaction. Right. Right. And giving them, just giving Saudi Arabia, nuclear. Now, a lot of news, a lot of news organizations got this wrong. I think we're trying to give nuclear weapons to Saudi Arabia. And that's not what they're doing. They're trying to give nuclear power, nuclear reactors, giving them that technology so that we can build them, make a lot of money with Russia,

and then populate military bases over there and kind of take it. Get a foothold in that area. Yeah, in fact, Copson, who's a business partner of Flynn, said he used the word recolonize the Middle East. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Well, it's a very complicated and interesting stuff, but it seems like NATO and Brody were really in bed together trying to influence a White House, and the last couple things that

happened was NATO emailing Brody to ask Trump to call the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. And then again, he tried to get him to meet privately. They were considering a trip to Saudi Arabia to sell the prints on a $650 million contract with Brody's security company, but before they could go, Nader was greeted by the FBI. He's in the airport on his way to Mar-a-Lago. And Mueller got him. So he flipped him and he's got him cooperating. And he's given him immunity.

He's given this dirt bag immunity, which means he's got something so valuable. And I think it all has to boil down to this White House Influenza, Political Influenza, Marshall Plan, lifting of sanctions. The whole thing kind of comes together at that point. Reminded me of an episode of 24, where this guy's like keeping some woman as a slave

and they have to pardon him to try to get the, you know, and it's the same kind of thing. Find out where the bomb is or whatever. They got this child porn guy, but they're gonna like, you know, give him immunity so that they can get bigger fish. Big daddy child porn, whatever.

To me, child porn is a big fish and I'm guessing to you too, of course, but to them, it's like, oh, that's small game. You know, we've all been there. Well, no, it's a point of leverage. It's not whether it's a small thing or a big thing to them, it's a point of leverage. Yeah.

That's how they see it. Sure. It's like when you, we've talked about this in SVU when they shake down a prozi, when they shake down a prostitute, when they shake down a prostitute to get information on where a murderer was. Yeah. Prostitution in some people's minds, not mine,

is a big crime, but you use that to roll them on a murderer. Right. So it's yeah, it's kind of the step back. Just like what is done with all of these people, with all the cooperating people, they have them for other crimes Still I still try and a hold out to get Manafort though. He still hasn't been able to get him to flip him

Yeah, nope not yet, and I don't know that they will I really don't have cookie. Well not just that He doesn't want to get poisoned and he doesn't want his family to die. Yeah, so He's gonna face his 305 years. Yeah, he'll he'll die in prison rather than have to go through that. And he must be thinking, I had a good run. Yeah, I guess. I had $1.6 million in our Monty Suit. Yeah. Droven Escalade, I had a good run.

Pretty crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that's my report on that. And hopefully I wasn't too convoluted. No, it was great. Thanks for that. Enjoyed by us. Now, a crazy thing happened on the way to hacking the DNC.

Jelisa has a report about Goosefer 2.0 that closes the loop between Russian hackers and the Trump campaign. And Stone and Crédico, or Crédico, Crédico, Stone and that guy. I think are the fulcrums. Jalisa, why don't you take it away? Yes. So little context here for those of you that don't know Gusefer 2.0 is the guy that hacked the DNC in 2016 and leaked the Hillary related documents to WikiLeaks

So he's not to be confused with the original Gusefer who became well known in twenty thirteen for launching hacking campaigns against celebrities and politicians that's the original goose for the o g this guy we're talking about he's the goose for two point so and he named himself that in and oh my yeah exactly there's a connection so um... the thing is muller recently took over the fb i's investigation of goose of her two point out after they discovered that he is in fact a Russian intelligence officer.

So specifically, he's a Russian GRU officer. And from the very beginning, GUSA for 2.0, he's always denied that he was a Russian, like he denied that there was an collusion between him and Russia, and he stated very clearly on his website that he was, quote, acting in accordance with his personal political views and beliefs. So he was trying to be the 400 pound loan guy. Exactly. That Trump just happened to mention.

They really wanted us to think that Gusever 2.0 was just a convenient, Romanian, they call them activists. I think that's cute. Yeah, that'd be a funny special title. So here's the real kicker. The FBI learned of Gusever 2.0's connection to the GRU after he somehow failed to use a private online server leaving behind a trail of IP logs that the FBI traced back to the GRU headquarters in Moscow. So you know, oops.

Wow. Yeah, this is so crazy. The whole Goose River 2.0 situation is just moving molar closer and closer to himself. He's totally gonna get dead for that mistake. He's gonna get so screwed. Because here's the thing, he could have really slipped up or something tells me that it's kind of like them to want us to think they slipped up and really just contributing to the chaos of, oh, Trump did collude, they're just feeding us the evidence

we need to get pissed off at our own government. That's just conjecture, it's like the worst case scenarios that were just all being trolled. But because as we covered before, Raj or Snow and what have Trump's long-time political advisors not only admitted to being in contact with Gustafr 2.0 on Twitter, he also published an article in 2016 in Breitbart calling on the media to stop blaming Russia for the hacks. So he even wrote in the article that GUSA for 2.0 is the real deal. Oh and I do need to apologize to our listeners for tempting you to google Roger Stone's Nixent tattoo. Yeah, I'm really sorry about that.

Some were very unhappy about that. That's my fault. Yeah, I like it. I tweeted that, but it's a tough one to look at. Yeah, sorry about that. And and after releasing what a stone claims to be a complete transcript of his communications with goose afro 2.0 in complete. Exactly. Yeah, he went on to say, I myself had no contacts or communications with the Russian state, Russian intelligence or anyone fronting for them or acting as intermediaries for them. So he probably said that thinking that WikiLeaks is not a Russian state. Exactly. It's not part of the Russian state when they have been called that by Pompeo.

Well, now we know. Yeah. A son. It's not exactly a left-winger. Exactly. Yeah. With all that being said, some people still actually believe that while Kusa for 2.0's account may be fake, it was probably just created by the DNC and not Russia.

So they're basically saying that the DNC was posing as a Russian posing as a Romanian hacker. That's really interesting because I know that when the FBI told when they finally got to telling the top of the DNC about that they were hacked. I remember that I can't remember if it was Mark Elias or MOOC, maybe they both had this discussion. They said, what if we plant really salacious, effed up shit about Hillary in our emails and then they hack them and then release it and then they went, no, that's a really bad idea.

They'll believe whatever it is and we'll sound insane. We'll be like, no, that's a really bad idea. They'll believe whatever it is, and we'll sound insane. We'll be like, no, we planted that there. Oh, sure you did. It's easy. Yeah. But now they're accusing them of planting that there. Yeah, this is where the movie would probably get really crazy. I'm just reading this, and it's like a turduck-in of treason.

I should hand the B with you. It is, it's Russian nesting dolls. That's great. So what does his main for Mueller and his team? Perhaps just like the 13 Russians who were indicted last month for working on the troll farm, maybe Gusef or 2.0 is next to being indicted. I think that's for me, that was what I kind of took away

from it. But also, the Daily Beast reported that Mueller has now brought on to his team, the FBI investigator who tracked down Guseosefer 2.0. So that's just why I think they might be targeting him for sure next. They got your tracked down Goosefer 1. I thought it was the OG Goosefer. But they got, well that guy's already in jail.

So yeah, I thought that he brought on the FBI guy who got, oh is that who it was? Okay, there we go. So got Goosefer. Who got Goosefer? Yeah, it was the original OG's investigator who was brought on. I didn't know that. Yeah, the original Goosefer. Got it. It was the original OGs investigator who was brought on. I didn't know that. The original Lucifer. Got it.

Yeah. The original OG. That is so insane. Can we start calling Trump Nixon 2.0 or? He's not smart enough. He's not smart enough. That's exactly true. Nixon was a genius.

I wonder if Trump knew about Lucifer? Well, this whole time that Lucifer was a Russian guy and but was saying that it was a lone actor It sounds like he did And Gusefer was saying he was a lone actor and I wonder if Mueller can prove that Because why wouldn't he say he was framed sooner? Trump was so quick to say no, it's not them for sure And now he's like, oh, I might have been framed Yeah, I don't know you guys. I don't know. All right, well, thanks a lot for that report, Lisa.

That's for you. Hot notes. Nice. Ready for some hot notes, baby. All right, I'm going to try, don't, I'm sorry for singing. I'm going to try to consolidate all the news we got this week about Cambridge Analytica.

Please let me call him Cam Anna from now on. Cam Anna. Cam Anna. Cam Anna. Now we're Camana. Camana. Now we're not gonna do Toto. Sorry. I need to stop singing. I love it.

Now, here at Muller She Wrote, we've been tracking on Cambridge Analytica since episode nine. So go back and have a listen to that episode. And again, forgive the sound quality. We've thanks to our patrons. We've gotten much better. Yes.

We've upgraded our equipment and stuff. But that was before we had all this awesome stuff to help us to get better. But check out Episode 9. It's the content that matters. We started with the New York Times piece. They came out over the weekend while we were recording last weekend, out on March 17th about Kamm Anna, and it's ties to a Russian oil giant called Luke Oil. Luke Oil was interested in how data could be used to target American voters. But in an interview with British Parliament, CEO of Kam-Anna, the parent company in the UK,

his name is Alexander Nick's, said he never worked with any Russian companies. But in two documents obtained by the New York Times, Nick said that he had done business with Russia. A Kamenaya co-founder named Christopher Wiley confirmed that the Russian oil company had met with Nick to understand how to influence American voters, and it's important to note that luke oil is sanctioned by the US Treasury. Wiley is the redhead kid that's out on all the interviews and you see them on all the photos of the articles that are coming out about this. He's the

former co-founder of Camana. He's defected and he's telling his whole story. That's where a lot of this is coming from. Very nice. And channel four in the UK. We learned last week that 50 million Facebook users data was stolen. Alexander Kogan, that's a Cambridge University professor, orchestrated the data heist by saying it was going to be used for academic purposes. As it turns out, Kogan had unreported ties to St. Petersburg State University, and he had been getting grants from them

to research how to weaponize social media. Wow. So we then learned that Cam Anna has ties to Eric Prince. In 2017, Alexander Nick started a company with two other men called Emma Data. Emma Data shared its address with a shell company that was in the Panama Papers, by the way. But just a few days ago, Emma Data

updated its information by adding a director named Chun-Chun-Ko and changed the address to 16 Harcourt Road in Hong Kong. That's the same address as Eric Prince's company called Frontier Services and Chun-shun-ko was the co-founder of Frontier Services with Eric Prince. As we know who Eric Prince is, the guy who met in the Seychelles, he was the Trump surrogate that met with the Putin surrogate and the UAE to talk about relief, sanctions relief. So now we have the UAE, Ibiza, a Russian oil company, and Cambridge Analytica all tied together.

Then, as if it couldn't get any weirder, the mercers were added, the people with the most giant foreheads in the world. They were added as directors of Emma data this week. So the mercer, their giant heads? Yes. No, the mercer's run bright part. They gave Big Lee to the Trump campaign. That's the mercer.

Then Monday undercover tapes of Alexander Nick's detailing a variety of underhanded methods they could use to influence elections surfaced. Channel four did this kind of. Yeah, this is the British fellow talking. Yeah, this is the British CEO. Well, yes, but Channel four, the British television company, did an undercover op to interview this guy, Alexander Nick's, the British head of SCL,

which is the parent company to Cambridge Analytica. Okay. So, and here's some of the things they said, quote, the two fundamental human drivers when it comes to taking information on board effectively are hopes and fears, and many of those are unspoken and even unconscious. You don't know that was a fear until you saw something that just evoked that reaction from you.

And another one was quote, our job is to get it. Our job is to drop the bucket further down the well into the psyche than anyone else to understand why those are really deep seated underlying fears and concerns. There is no good fighting and election campaign on the facts because it's actually all about emotion. Yeah, I did see that quote. Yeah, he's definitely, okay, there's truth to that, but also fucking, like seriously. Well, if you're gonna start a business

on how to win a campaign, you don't start with facts, especially if you're running for a, it's a, I'm a mature, yeah, no. A Republican. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well fears, I mean, that seems like a good way to get people to pay attention to social media too. In general, it's just to stoke fears.

I've seen that more than hope, obviously, on Facebook. And fears of Mexicans, fears of brown people, fears of either of those people taking your job, fears of black people with guns, fears of homosexuals coming onto you, fear of being forced to watch gay orgies. Like I don't like all those feats. All these deep, so you have all those hopes and dreams, Jason.

Now you have all these, you know, that's what folks, like especially religious folks, which they target people, they targeted UFC fans, they targeted NRA people. That's where those fears are. And so they, they poke at those. Then if that weren't enough, we found out Tuesday that Steve Bannon is connected to Cambridge Analytica. Chris Wiley, the red-headed kid, the former Kamen employee that helped break these stories,

said that Bannon was in charge of the efforts to collect Facebook data. And he tested the power of anti-establishment messages. Some of the messages that he tested were based on those fears and emotions. Like he tested the phrase deep state. That's why anyone who says deep state is. Yes, they've really got you with that deep state. That's so smart. It is a sucker. And anyone drained the swamp was another one.

Uh-huh. Like also tested pro-Putin messages saying quote, Americans like the idea of a strong authoritarian leader and often defend Putin's invasion of Crimea. On Tuesday, Cambridge Analytica suspended Nix because of the undercover reporting from Channel 4. Bannon helped launch Cambridge Analytica with financial backing from the mercers and Bannon received a $125,000 consultation fee. Oh, my God. And Kushner and Bannon helped manage the data firm. Wow. Friday, a blueprint for a Trump victory created by Cambridge Analytica was leaked.

This is the 27 page presentation that they used to pitch to Trump. And it proposed using Twitter and Snapchat, Facebook, YouTube, and Google to influence vulnerable, gullible voters in key swing states. Sorry, white guys in Wisconsin, that's probably you. No, I mean, it's any number of people. And for me to generalize like that is a mistake because what they did was micro target. They would find these people based on these quizzes they would take on Facebook and figure out what they were most moved them emotionally. And they were most afraid of, out what they were most what most moved

them emotionally and most they were most afraid of found out they were most afraid of and they would tailor their messages based on psychological profiles using that stolen Facebook data. I wonder how like detailed it was like when they had an individual do a quiz I wonder if they tired it that specific person as opposed to like even a cluster of similar. They would target that person and their friends. That's insane. Wow.

Because they figured that their friends are like minded. Like minded fears. They also would manipulate Google searches. So if you during the campaign searched for Trump Iraq war, you would likely be shuffled over to a site where you would be told Hillary voted yes on the Iraq war and Trump voted against it. Did Trump vote? Trump voted? Well, no, but he was...

Oh, but they would say something similar like that. Well, he came out against it. Oh, okay, got it, got it. Yeah, he voiced a vote of, yeah, I got it. Yeah, like his, his, he showed, he didn't show support for it. She actually voted for it. Exactly, yeah. And you would find that if you Googled during the election. If you lived in a swing state,

you'd be shown photos of people from Duck Dynasty and the UFC and Ivanka Trump. Oh, yeah. They would drop stories like, quote, the tendon convenient truths about Clinton, unquote, and they would put that crooked Hillary meme where the O's are handcuffs. Yeah, yeah.

Friday night, Friday night, a UK watchdog group got a warrant to search Cambridge Analytica and Britain, I told you about that. And then we found out John Bolton is tied to Cambridge Analytica, along with several other Republican House members and senators, including Ted Cruz. In 2014, John Bolton, who is now our new national security advisor, replacing McMaster, great, who replaced Flynn, Bolton paid $1.2 million to Cambridge Analytica, who was just

a fledgling company at the time. They were just starting to harvest all their Facebook data using that, using that Cambridge Professor. Yeah. The New York Times obtained a copy of the contract between Bolton and Cambridge Analytica saying that Cambridge Analytica would deliver quote behavioral micro-targeting with psychographic messaging. So feel so manipulated. Yeah. And then MSNBC got a hold of a memo from Rudy Giuliani's law firm to the Mercers and Bannon and Nick's. Telling them to make sure that when they do all this to have no foreigners do any of the work because that's a crime. Oh my god!

So they got that memo at MSNBC. On Ari Milber I think? The beat? Ari Milber, I think, the beat. Ari Milber. Oh, that's right, yeah. He's like a hip-hop-sized political show. He's the whiteest guy ever, too. He's so adorable.

He's like, nah, I got my rap friends on, and then he'll have this horn sound like is a morning radio. Exactly. He's like, mwah, mwah, what's up? You're like, oh my god, you're hilarious. Robert Muller is now examining Trump's relationship with Cambridge Analytica.

Investigators are asking former Trump campaign needs and members of the RNC about Trump campaign's connections to Cambridge Analytica. We have learned that the Trump campaign paid the firm over $6 million in 2016. Alexander Nick's pitched to Lewandowski at first. At that time, he was also, he was already working with Ted Cruz and Ben Carson. But Lewandowski passed, because he didn't think Trump would spend the money. Then, Manafort came on board. Lewandowski was fired,

Bannon came on board, and Cambridge Analytica came on board, all around the same time. The Trump campaign made their first payment to Cambridge Analytica in July of 2016. Jan. Lydica came on board all around the same time. The Trump campaign made their first payment to Cambridge Analytica in July of 2016. Then they put Brad Parscale and Kushner in charge of it. Brad Parscale has been hired to be Trump's 2020 campaign leader.

He's I don't know if he's going to be able to do it from jail, but he's the guy. Let me ask you this just to interrupt really quick. Is manipulating Things like this on social media. Is that illegal? Not yet, but it should be after this. I think right is that I don't know Okay, for campaign purposes. I don't know. I think it's unprecedented So there haven't been any laws regulating this kind of like invasion of privacy But you I know that it was it's got to be illegal to pose as an academic to get data But I know that it's got to be illegal to pose as an academic to get data purportedly to be used in academic research that can only be accessed through FOIA requests and then

using it to do this. For political purposes, is it a bit much? Yeah. So other clients to see you get a picture of this. Other clients of the Cambridge Analytica company include Tom Cotton, Tom Tillis, the NRA, the GOP of North Carolina, Art Robinson and Scott Brown, all Republicans. So when you ask me why the GOP in Congress is complicit in covering up this investigation, this is why.

A lot of them used Cambridge Analytica. A lot of you used the store data. Yeah, what the connection was because like I was was like well the NRA was one part of it They got funding from that, but I think this is the newest thing that's that's definitely more connected And there's proof of all of it because when Gusefer and Cosie Baron Fancy Bear hacked the United States they didn't just hack the the the DNC they hacked the RNC That's right, and I think that maybe somebody else uphired somebody has all those emails from the RNC.

None of them were ever leaked. I think they're being used to blackmail these guys and trying to cover up this event. Because why else would they be so gung-ho? Yeah. Yeah, that is a very good question. It's amazing how far the Republicans have gone to sort of be complicit in a lot of- Yeah, they're right or die right now, yeah. And why would they not? And they're not going to win the elections and they know that. It's amazing how far the Republicans have gone to sort of be complicit in a lot of that's right. They're right or die right now, yeah.

And why would they not? And they're not gonna win the elections and they know that. Exactly. And they don't, they hate Trump. So it's not because they have loyalty to him. They're compromised. Right, and I thought once they got the tax bill passed

that a lot of them would jump ship. I thought so too. And it's not that because they're a good point here. Right. Yep, so, all right. So let me see, so that's a lot on. All right. So let me see. So that's a lot on Cambridge Analytica. But let me see if I can wrap it up for you.

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that showed up in the Panama Papers. The mergers were addressed as directors as well. And now Muller is looking into the whole thing. And I bet a lot more news is going to come out on Cambridge Analytica as well as some indictments. I can't wait. I really want to see how Facebook is going to receive any, if at all, consequences to this situation. Because Mark Zuckerberg, I think, Jesse, you mentioned he might have apologized. I didn't hear that, but it's possible, right? Yeah, I thought he had some kind of news commentary apologize. I've heard him in silence,

so maybe he said something since then, but over the weekend, I mean, like, or over the past week, it seems like he hasn't said much at all, right? Well, a lot of people are blaming Facebook, but it really is a loophole in one of these apps that they have. Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, it's not right, not on Mark alone,

or even the one that goes. I don't know. It's over my pay grade. For me, I know that. Yeah, yeah. We will find out. We could have found out if the House Intelligence Committee would interview him, but they've decided not to.

It's not, no, it's not a big deal. Oh, yeah, no big deal. I just think it's curious. I'm gonna go wonder if that's legal to pay $6 million to this social media. I don't think it should. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the Clinton campaign paid a bunch of money to fusion GPS to look into Trump to

get op-o research. That's true. I mean, you can pay data analytics companies. But there are things that you can't do. You can't have foreigners working on it. What we're supposed to be able to expect is reasonable use of our data. When we sign up for Facebook, we know that they can sell our data, use our data, advertise to us. But what's unclear is whether we have given explicit or implicit permission for

you to use our data against us psychologically to win elections. Exactly. And that's where the new law hopefully would come in. To manipulate people with stories that may not be true. That's another question. Yeah it's really scary to me. All right guys thanks so much that's my hot note we'll be right back. It costs a lot to make a podcast. In addition to the hours of research and scripting we have editing, producing, equipment upgrades, hosting fees, web design, shipping, subscriber management fees, my wine budget, it can really add up. So that's where you come in. Our patrons not only help us make this podcast, but help us continually improve the quality

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And I didn't have any Iranian hackers on my team this week. So I got zero points this week. But yeah, that's a good one. I wish, okay, I'm going to go ahead and say right now, they were Iranian. So Saudi Arabia, I'm going to throw in a pile of them. I think I'm going to throw in some Saudi Arabia. Now that we see the pattern, yeah.

Yeah, maybe some North Korean hackers. Hactivists. Yeah. Hactivists. There you go. Yeah, why don't we just say any Hactivists? It's Korean hackers. Hactivists. Yeah. Hactivists. There you go. Yeah, why don't we just say any Hactivists that it's not Russian. I love it. Oh, okay.

All right, so that's that those little really the big modifications came last week when we had the the minority report. We added pretty much everybody that was on there. Okay. So that was super helpful. All right, you guys, it's time for sabotage. Shhh. Shhh.

Shhh. Shhh. Shhh. Shhh. Shhh. Shhh. All right, this week's sabotage belongs to the nearly 800,000 people who marched on Washington this weekend.

The march for our lives brought hundreds of thousands of people to the national mall and millions across the country together in the single best example of how small and insignificant the gun lobby is. They're throwing a wrench in our political machine, literally sabotaging the status quo. They are rattling the walls of Congress, they're using their voices to take back our schools, our neighborhoods, and our country from the NRA. I am so excited for these unlikely heroes to vote and to run for office and lead us into the future.

They make me feel safer than any politician does right now. So they're sticking it to the man in ways I wish I always could. So. They're amazing. I mean, I just got out of high school. So I think about how, even though it's been like five years for myself so much has changed. Like this is not normal for students to be so politically engaged. Like high school students.

It's very, very new and just hopeful. It is. It's refreshing because not only are these voters, these are future voters. Uh, and I think they're just going to take over. They may be future hardened Democrats. Oh, damn it. Oh, I love Brownland. That sounds dirty to me, but.

Yeah. You know, seriously, my hat's off to them. They're making history. I've watched some of the speeches from the National Mall and from the March and L.A. We had one here in San Diego. It's just all over the world. I cried watching it

I'm gonna lie I said a little kids standing behind one of the singers like in their school uniforms Just these little tiny kids and dude Emma Gonzalez's speech was Breathed I missed hers. I have to go back and watch. Yeah, I think that that is why they need more youth in government and to be Engaged like this because you're getting people before they're compromised by money. Exactly. It's just pure, I just want to live. College kids are perfect.

High school and college kids, but before they sort of get corrupted and become. Exactly. There's that glimmer in their eyes. Yeah, because at some point they get older, they have to pay their bills, and then our rate comes in and goes, hey, I got this truckload of money for ya. Exactly.

And it just ruins them. Hopefully, you know, get some stuff done before that happens. Right. I love just saying Marco Rubio talked to these kids and like, get owned because it shows that he's a capable man, but he's made his choice. You're told that he's made his choice. Yeah, he's made his choice. Yeah. Well, you were saying, Jesse,

hopefully we get, they get some stuff done before that happens to them. Hopefully, with this generation, they won't let it happen. Exactly. I would like to think that, but it seems like people just get corrupted over time. It's enough of that, all you're right. But I think, yeah, like you're saying, if we can get them young to just like see the bigger picture, I think it'll help change this.

It's like, you're preserving the environment. I feel like once they get to an age where you're just looking up for yourself and your future and their money, then people just sort of have a disdain for the planet and the environment and go, well, I'm not going to worry about that anymore because or the debt or anything. It's usually they fight that stands up against things like that and the older you get the more conservative you might get. That's true in life too. I mean, that's true in jobs, that's true in how you view love, that's true.

We become jaded instead of all. Just start protecting your interests more. Exactly, and it's so sad, but there's always Bernie too. Then there's Bernie, right? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. There's people out there who, Ted Devine was working in Russia with Manafort on the pro-Putin Ukraine,

Yanukovych campaign, and then became Bernie Sanders campaign manager. Wow. You can change. Just teach an old dog new tricks, I like that. He's an old dog for sure, Bernie. He's an old guy. He's one top of the one 10 to the one, he's, he's, he's fantastic.

The bird, I just can't, the bird. Isn't that like, so religious looking, just like, that was amazing. He seems like it was Portland. Yeah, looking I love it. So anyway, that's my sabotage is these kids. They're blowing my mind. That's a nice Abotage. I like that. I hope they keep going with it. Yeah. All right you guys let's answer some listener questions and read some comments Okay, at JC do los one and Christine Snyder want to know what it will take for the GOP to do something about Trump, and if there's anything drastic enough for Mueller to indict Trump on.

Somebody might have to shoot somebody in Fifth Avenue. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what, at this point, Mueller could put in a report to Congress that would flip Congress to impeach. I think we need to wait until we flip the Congress. We have to get rid of who's in Congress right now if we're going to impeach Trump. That's the bottom line for

that. And then anything drastic enough for Mueller to indict on Trump and any law he's broken, he can indict him on. Whether he feels it's, he wants to go ahead with an indictment, obstruction of justice, I think would be enough to indict him on. If he had solid proof of obstruction of justice, which I think he does, if he had solid proof of conspiracy against the United States, money laundering, tax fraud,

he can indict him on any of those things. Nice. And we know he's got money laundering and tax fraud. And even if you don't wanna believe he he's got money laundering in tax fraud. And even if you don't want to believe he's laundered money, he has tax fraud. The evidence is just there. Well, we haven't seen it. Well, we believe.

I believe. I could. All right, at Mel, sorry, Mel McB23 and Anne Craig asked. Mel B. Mel McB. Oh, okay. Yeah, no. Not the co-host of the Miss Universe page in 2014. So Mel McBe 23 and Anne Craig ask if Mueller would absorb the Cam Anna, the Cambridge Analytica

investigation, or will a whole other investigation be created? No, I think Mueller is. Yeah, he's already, right. Yeah, the news is that he's already investigating this. Frank Dembausky asked if there was a chance to man afford his flipped, but we don't know. Like, is he talking, but like, don't tell anyone I'm talking

because Putin will kill my family. Yeah. I don't know, maybe. Is that a possibility? But I don't think so. A little bit not likely, right? Well, I don't think so because his trial set for July 10. He's already. But not likely, right? Well, I don't think so because his trial is set for July 10. He's already pleaded not guilty, right?

Right, but he could plead not guilty publicly and privately be spilling his guts. Oh, you can do that. You can do that. But his trial dates are set for July and September in Virginia and DC respectively. If his trials get delayed, and they're delayed by the government side,

not by the defense. Then there's a chance. We could look into, why is that? Right, right. But there's no evidence that so far. He's pushing it back himself right now, right? Well, he tried, but he failed. So it's July and September.

He died. Yeah. D-Nide. Well, he got the, never mind. It's. He got one delayed a month, and the other one, he tried to delay, but they pushed it up on him for a month. Oh my god. I should put another ankle brace on him every time it's delayed. I've got two right now I should have

like three or four. I'm still waiting for that cartoon for somebody to draw me a man of four. It was like 60. Oh I wish I remember their name. Someone did a picture in illustration. It was just two ankle bracelets but no I want like 80 ankle brace. Yeah and he needs that. Yeah. Neck one from like what was it the running man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well yeah head blows up. All right. Si follow Mette asked how much longer until he's impeached. Oh dude. I don't know. Good question. I don't think it's I don't think there's I don't think there's anything that he that Mueller could say that he's done and prove that this Congress would impeach him for, at least that the Senate wouldn't remove him for.

Unless it affected them. No, I don't think so. I don't even think then. I think they have too much dirt on them and they have to stick behind him no matter what. Even if he turned on them, they'd be like, you know what, he's a good guy. Let's just, I don't think he would do that. He'd be impeached. The only thing that I think he would be impeached for is firing Rosenstein.

Yeah, yeah, I can see that, because they've already said it. Yeah. What if they have, like you say some of this physical evidence about sexual stuff? Like, that's what they impeached Bill Clinton over. No, no, no, no, they impeached Bill Clinton because he lied about it. Oh, interesting. And they actually impeached him.

It wasn't incomplete, right? They impeached him. Oh, it just wasn't in a complete like risk nation. It was just it. No, they fully impeached him. The Senate did not have enough votes to remove. Got it. In order to impeach a president, the House impeaches and then the Senate has to have a two-thirds

vote to remove. Got it. Okay. In order to get an arrow. There we go. Impeachment and removal. So the chances of that are very slim. In Lessie Fires, Rosenstein. Now, Nixon, his Congress said we're going to impeach you unless you resign and so he resigned. Okay. Okay. Okay. But that's not going to happen here. I don't think so either. Graham Lincoln wanted to know if Mueller is fired and the Dems flipped the house, could the new Democratic House Intelligence Committee

interview Mueller and get him to tell him everything on the record? Why not, I'm right. I mean, that would definitely be an after-math kind of situation, so I think so. Not if it's gonna be a risk to national security or not if it's going to reveal sources or methods. Okay.

And I honestly don't know. First of all, Trump can't fire a molar. He'd have to fire a Rosenstein. Or he'd have to tell Rosenstein to fire a mole and Rosenstein is not going to do it. And I don't think no L Francis goes going to do it either because he had that dinner. Right. And that's the next person in line. Yes. And he was seen eating with sessions and Rosenstein. And when you have dinner with somebody, you can't go against what they say. It's, yeah, it's the rules. Absolutely. Washington. Okay. No, I don't know. So I'm not sure about that. That's, that's an interesting thought, though, like if they fired Mueller

and Mueller's just a guy. Yeah. Yeah. I guess a billion again. Can he testify to the new Democratic House Intelligence Committee about everything he knows? That's a weird question. You're writing a book like Komi. Yeah, people have been talking about that. But it's still going to not have any details that are getting classified information. Michael Cameron asked if any of Trump's lawyers need security clearance, and if Ivanka has one, Trump's personal private lawyers do not need security clearance. And if Ivanka has one, Trump's personal private lawyers

do not need security clearance. They're his private lawyers. The White House lawyer needs security clearance and lawyers who work in the White House need security clearance. That's how that goes. Ivanka does not have security clearance. I've talked about this in a couple of past episodes

because of her work on that Trump tower in Azerbaijan, I think that that puts her at risk. Absolutely. Jennifer Hughes asked, if I ever slip into my Trump voice, it worked by accident. No. But here's the one time I use the Trump voice when I'm not purposefully trying to do it. If I'm ever having, if I ever, you know that voice inside your head where you're like, oh, my thighs look crappy today. My hair looks like shit today. Oh, what's wrong with

my wrinkles look at these bat wings. Um whenever I start whenever I catch myself saying bad things to myself I start doing it in a Trump voice and I immediately defend myself. Oh, Alison, your thighs are fat. You know what you shut the head up. My thighs are awesome. And then all of a sudden I are fat. You know what? You shut the head up. My thighs are awesome. And then all of a sudden I love myself. You know what? That's a positive thing to take out of Trump. That confidence. Yeah, just I just imagine Trump criticizing me and then I have I am super confident. That's funny. Very defensive of myself, which is nice. That's good. Last week I asked you guys, uh, who you thought would play the parts in the Mueller movie? We had hashtag

Mueller movie yes this hashtag is still going keep coming but here's here's some great responses at Heathcliff Tatum wants John Voight to play Trump Leonardo DiCaprio to play Don Jr. which is funny because the Prime Minister of Malaysia gifted DiCaprio a Picasso for the Wolf of Wall Street, which was recently seized by the FBI, because the Prime Minister of Malaysia is a dickhead. It's so funny. He also said Paul Giamatti for Bannon. Ooh. That was interesting.

I like that one. I kind of like a sideways character who's just like drinks that spit bucket of wine and dumps it on. Pig vomit, right? That's a sad thing. Reprise that character from the Howard Cern movie. Such a good one. Roger Stone should be played by McCollick Cockin.

Oh, that's a good one. If you think of how weird he looks now. Definitely. Just get the hair changed, yeah. LeVern Cox could be Amarosa. It's so perfect. Hillary Beat Trump says on Twitter that Harvey Weinstein should have to play Trump for no money At occasionalities put forth my favorite for Mueller Hugh Laurie

Who's Hugh Laurie house? Oh, okay, that's perfect. Actually looks kind of like him. Mm-hmm. Who is Hugh Laurie? Look like he's it's my third husband Okay, it is mother? That's Hugh Laurie. Who's playing Kushner? You have that one? Well, here, let's see if we get Kushner down here. Okay. That guy, occasionally, he's also said, Bob Odin Kirk would be a good combie.

And I see that. I can see that. At Miss Elmira Gulch, that's a great name. I asked. Elmira Gulch, that is an awesome name. Oh my gosh. Asked for Sarah Baker as Sarah Sanders. Yes.

I feel like Sarah Sanders should be played by El Myra Gulch. At Citizen Danes says David Lynch could be Mueller. Okay. At Long's View said Luke Wilson should be Mueller because they have that weird wide jaw thing going on. I got to look that one up. Weird wide jaw sounds like Muellerolleo for sure. Luke Wilson, the blonde guy would be. No, the brown haired guy from Idiocracy.

Oh, okay, I'm thinking of his brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're thinking of Owen Wilson. Okay. Luke Wilson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause he's got that wide jaw that he heard. Like he's got, like he's hiding nuts for the winner and his cheeks.

He does look like that. Let's see, who else do we have on here? Why, Jothi? Elena thought Sam Watterson should be Mueller. Which I think the big mustache guy. Yeah, I've heard that a lot. Okay. At Kyle Crane says, a CGI circus should play Trump.

Beautiful. I think that's the guy who did golem. Oh, Andy Circus. Yeah, Andy Circus. Yeah, yeah totally and let's see John ham could be Manafort I would be sad about that because I love John Ham and Christopher Maloney could be Putin I

See that a lot. Who is that that's a Stabler from SVU. Okay, okay at motel roachach wants Robert Redford as Mueller and Ray Leota as Cohen. Gene Gaines wants Jeremy Irons as Mueller. But Jeremy Irons is always a bad guy. I don't know how I feel about that. And it's British. Yes. He could be, he could be Nick, he could be Alexander Nick. Yeah. Chris Bliss wants John Hayder as Eric Trump, which is perfect. That's the guy who played in Napoleon. I don't like that. Isn't that great, because he's got the teeth. That's so good.

John Hader or Bill Hader would be good to him. Yes, don't believe. Either Hader. Either Hader. At HP Downunda has the perfect mooch. OK, James Franco, I think would be a good mooch. Oh, the mooch. Great, the mooch.

Oh, that's the mooch. He's so good. The puckered lips, I totally agree. great and for me this week's winner this week's winner of the the Mueller movie challenge is Brandon McAllister at Brandon MC says John Dowd should be played by Timothy Spall and that is who that's the guy who plays the weasel

rat guy and Harry Potter movies oh my god he looks just fucking That is who? That's the guy who plays the Weasel Rat Guy in Harry Potter movies. Oh my gosh. He looks just fucking nice. That's really good. That's so funny. So I've got one, this is mine for Kushner, if you don't have a Kushner. Yeah, who's gonna have a Kushner?

The My Kushner is a grown up Edward Furlong from Terminator 2. You remember Edward Furlong? Oh, yeah. The kid. We gotta find him, let's track him down. He'd be perfect for that. He'd be good, right?

You know what? I've got the same kind of head. I feel like that. Absolutely, the eyes too. The same kind of head. Yeah, there's like the baby head with the small face. Baby head, big giant sort of forehead. Four head.

And tiny face. Something's gone wrong. I really like it. It just looks really drained of all his soul. Life, yeah. Someone posted a picture of, I think it was like a dog that would be play Putin. I Thought that was because they're one dog on yeah, it was just like Putin. Yeah, the eyes the BDI She's like scallowing at you. Yeah, it did for sure. All right Katrina wicks set on Facebook quote

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