Jack - House GOP vs Rosenstein

Episode Date: May 7, 2018

MAIN - This week, Jordan goes over Rudy Giuliani going "full Nunberg," Jaleesa will tell us about the recent Caputo interviews, and AG will report on the ongoing battle between House Republicans & Rod Rosenstein. Enjoy! 

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With me, as always, is Jolissa Johnson. Hello. And Jordan Coburn. Hello. Guys, this was quite a week. We did a breaking news episode on Tuesday morning on the 49 questions released by the New York Times that was leaked by someone in the White House. So check that out if you missed it. It's free for everyone. Today, Jordan is going to go over Rudy Giuliani going full nunberg, and Jolissa is going to tell us about the interview with Caputo.

I will be reporting on the ongoing battle between House Republicans and Rod Rosenstein. But let's kick it off with just the facts. Alright guys, a few stories came out Sunday while we were recording. First, a BP executive named Bob Dudley was slowly being poisoned by the Russians. He had to leave Moscow after blood tests indicated as much. He was running a very profitable joint venture with Ilya Zaslovsky and TNK BP that's British petroleum and I don't TNK is Russian It seems Russian authorities wanted Dudley out so they could have everything and they began poisoning him The poisoning began two years after Venyanko was exposed to Polonium and a decade before the attempted assassination of Sergei Skripal

By the Russians on UK soil. So, yeah, more shit. Yeah. It's oil executive. Interesting. Adding to the shit sandwich. Totally, that sounds disgusting. It is. I just had to, yeah, thanks for the visual image there.

It's very toxic. Yeah. It'll be too early for this for most of you. Joe's job right off the bat. That's true. I never take that into consideration. You think these people have to. You're sometimes. Well, they'll have their morning shit and then they'll hear about Happy Monday. I'm sorry. Please continue. Thank you. Rumors leaked Sunday night that John Kelly thanks Trump as an idiot and is becoming unhinged. Then Kelly fired back and said

that's BS. I just would say saying he's becoming unhinged. Maybe he's not at six months ago. Anyway, whether or not it's true, I think Kelly's days are numbered. Trump is now going around him, having Bolton and Pompeo report directly to him, effectively circumventing the chief of staff. I don't think he has much time left, and that would be weird. It would just pretty much leave Mad Dog Madness as the only sane person in the White House. And as I said, we would have to change his name to moderate dog Madness, because he's not the crazy one anymore.

I like moderate dog. I like moderate dog. I like that too, yeah. Trump used the cover of the Inquirer, a tabloid rag owned by his close friend, Packer, to basically bully Cohen this week. The cover says, quote, Michael Cohen's secrets and lies, unquote, a strong sign, by the way, that Trump is turning against him.

When asked about whether or not he thought there was a message, Cohen said, what do you think? That's I figure what he sounds like. Yeah, what do you think? Definitely two ures. Yeah, I think Trump is saying Quote this kind this is a kind of shit. You can expect the rest of your life if you flip But I think Cohen will have the last laugh though. It will likely be from a jail cell Yeah, but a much shortened set a much shorter sentence than he would have otherwise received.

Then Politico published a story about an FBI agent found to have leaked, lied, and mishandled classified information that will face no criminal charges. There are no other details about who the FBI agent is other than this agent appeared to have retired while and inquiry into his conduct was underway. That's according to the DOJ Inspector General. An investigative summary says investigators opened an inquiry

after receiving allegations that the special agent contacted witnesses in a criminal investigation for improper purposes. It also says the agent leaked sensitive information to unauthorized people misused electronic devices. Like what does that mean? Are you using the vibrate mode? It's not hiding anything.

We're like, were they also in Twitter jail? But dialing wrong number has started. When you first started that, I thought that that was gonna be a story planted by the conservators about Kami. Yeah. The big reveal. Or Mikaib. It was Kamiore.

He also gave mislead, might be she. The special agent gave misleeding Testimony equality, gave Miss Leeding Testimony during a related civil deposition, Miss handled classified information, misused his, oh, his, it's a he, misused his position during contact with cops and gave false information to the OIG. That's the Office of the Inspector General. The report concludes that the agent will not be criminally prosecuted. So the double standard for who, remember, this agent is versus folks like Andy McCabe is

striking to me. We know this is not McCabe because this special agent retired in the middle of the investigation, and McCabe didn't testify in a civil matter related to the charges that I'm aware of. I couldn't find anything, but I mean, that might not be a public, public, public. Right. But he didn't retire in the middle of the investigation, so we know it's not McCabe. Is the assumption that he was pro-Trump? I don't know.

There's nothing indicating that at all. It could be one of the New York field office guys, but I'd be guessing. That's not even conjecture. That's just guessing. Just the guess. No inspirational poster for that one. I'll just guess. I'm always thinking about the bird flying, hitting a little. I'll always hang one. The bird flying.

Heating a window. You got it. Follow me. And then of course, Monday, the New York Times, Mike Schmidt, who's part of our sexy justice calendar, by the way. And I have to thank you guys for your patience on the sexy justice calendar. We ran into a lot of licensing problems. I thought I could just throw up a bunch of pictures of these people.

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couple of surprises. So check out our bonus episode that came out earlier in the week. If you missed that, it's free for everybody. We released it Tuesday morning because we just, we had to. Please don't hold us to do that every week. It's a good thing we did too because there's too much news this week to also have to go. There is. If I had to throw in the 49 questions, we would have a 3-hour episode on our hands. Well, maybe in the future with more patrons someday? Yes, definitely. Oh, yeah. If we can get another

9,000 patrons, we're all yours. We can do this daily full-time. Definitely. Yeah. So find 9,000 friends. Bring them on over to us friends. Bring them on over to mullershearout.com. And as soon as we get there, we can do this full-time. Oh, yeah. And I don't have to keep hiding my identity. It's a good one, too. You don to have to keep working from the shadows. I like it's super here. I can be free. Free AG. Free AG. There you go. Yeah. Join the revolution on the resistance. All right, so also on Monday, this is funny. We learn that Pences Doctor privately raised concerns about Ronnie Jackson. That's the embattled VA secretary nominee that Trump has a heart on for for some reason. The main concern was that Jackson violated HIPAA protections for Pence's wife and then intimidated Pence's doctor during a confrontation over the episode. HIPAA is like medical privacy. Right, I'm not going to tell you. Look at it. The incident was detailed in three memos by Pence's doctor and the White House was made aware of it,

made aware that Jackson Blab to about the second lady's health to White House staff, another medical provider without consulting her or her physician. I wonder if it was embarrassing. Funny, oddly enough, later in the week Pence's physician would resign. Why do all these people have their own physicians? Are they fucking NFL athletes? They're all they, they do nothing. I have my own. I mean, with their brain, but with their body, they have their own physicians? Are they fucking NFL athletes? They're all they and they do nothing. I have my own.

I mean, with their brain, but with their body, they're in my own physical state. For you, hey, well, yeah, but like for every, like the president needs a doctor, the vice president needs a doctor. I think they'd have like a White House doctor that they could all just share it. Like I share my doctor.

Like if they're competent enough to be the president's doctor, they're probably competent enough to be the vice president's doctor. I actually would like my own write doctors. Like if they're competent enough to be the president's doctor, they're probably competent enough to be the vice president's doctor. I actually would like my own doctor someday. So I try to think like in terms of if you can afford it, like privatized healthcare like that, I think why not, right? It's like going to a charter school. I'm with you, I'm poor.

So I'm also like, man, I must be nice. But if I can get it someday, I want it. Well, it's clear what we need. We need a free universal national healthcare program. There you go. So everyone can have a free thing. And then if you want to pay for a fancy private doctor, then why not? It's America. Yeah, you're right. If the healthcare wasn't so bad, like Jordan, like he said, like, it wouldn't be an issue. I would continue to go to the VA. The VA is one of the

greatest healthcare systems in the world. Nice. You might disagree with me. Sorry. Hey, I appreciate the heads up. A lot of people are like, no, it's not. It's a worse issue, but they're trying right? Well, they have a 96% customer satisfaction rate You only here you only hear the bad stories you're right Kaiser is worse scripts is worse every private health care I'm sure is worse than than the VA and the VA I trust you are almost 10 million patients So I gotta join the military or marry someone in it, that's my life bet. You could do it. Really? Yeah, and you get free college and you get the military?

Yeah. What's gonna happen with Moshe, Ro? What? Get short duty, bro. You're right. Be in the air for us. See you guys later. Yeah, you can do it.

She's out. She's like, I'm gonna go join. Yeah. In the Navy. I turn my life around. I turn your life around. Just leave comedy for the respectable lifestyle. For justice. Yeah.

It's been Reem Comey's book too much, Shaleesa. Get your head on straight. Um, the house Freedom Caucus, probably the most A-hole of all the caucuses, leaked, drafted articles of impeachment for Rod Rosenstein on Tuesday, and I'll be going over that a little bit later in the show. Predictable.

Freedom cock is freedom fast. Also on Tuesday Muller asked for a 60 day extension on the sentencing of Michael Flynn. Now, three months ago he asked for a 90 day extension which makes sense because three months is 90 days. So it seems he believes we only have a couple months to go. I think 90 days is the max you can ask for. So back in February, he probably didn't see an end in sight. He just asked for the max.

But now he's only asking for a 60 day extension. So I think what he's saying is we're looking at the end of June. And our meet and greet is in July, first week of July. Oh my God. Great panel discussion. And Manafort's trial starts July 10th. Yep. Anyway, this extension was a joint ask by Muller and Flynn's lawyers.

And like I said, Manafort's trial starts in July, our live Q&A shows July 3rd. My exercise program wraps up at the end of June. My second week of executive leadership training is the last week of June. It's a big month. We'll be wrapping up around 200,000 downloads by then. And if all goes well, I think July 1st, this podcast will be in the black. Yay! Thanks to our patrons.

This is a good time to be alive. Despite the reason we're here. And yeah, despite that whole thing. And our sexy Justice calendar begins in July. It's not a January to January such. It's July to July. And I did that because it lines up with Maniforts trials. Oh my god. Are you right? It's also Independence January to January such. It's July to July. And I did that because it lines up with Manor Forge trials. Oh my God.

Are you all right? It's also Independence Day that week. It's going to be an insane week. It's going to be an alien. The first one. Yeah. Yeah. Love aliens.

Today we celebrate our Independence Day. That's a weird sentence I never liked it. We should start asking Podsave America if we can cross over around then. We really, for the country. If you're listening Podsave America, we can increase your listenership in the female category considerably.

And I hope you like wine. If not, I could probably bring some beer around. I guess. I guess. It can be bros. We can play some cornhole. Yeah. Yeah, play some cornhole. And there's one host for each of us.

We could pair up. I mean, we could make it a thing. Like drinking jango. There you go. Quarter. Barrow and sexist guys. We could have a sleepover. Let's just cross over and see where it goes.

You guys. Yeah, seriously, pods have, if you're listening. Then we had a holy shit Tuesday moment when we learned that Giuliani is renegotiating a sit down between Mueller and Trump because apparently Mueller floated the idea of subpoenaing Trump back in March, March 5th. What happened according to the Washington Post was that Mueller's team met up with Trump's lawyers to give them 16 topics they'd like to discuss with the president. Dowd was encouraging Trump not to sit down with Mueller.

So Mueller said that the Office of Special Counsel was not ruling out, forcing Trump to testify with a subpoena. And Dowd got pissed, and he stood up, and he's like, this isn't some game. You're screwing with the work of the president of the United States. The fine work of the president of the United States, the fine work of the president of the United States. Oh, yes, impeccable. I'm glad he's so invested in what a patriot. It's, you know, it ain't hard to shut shit down.

Okay. Anybody can do it. Um, yeah. In fact, you might even have somebody who would be able to shut shit down more effectively. Hey, he solved the Korean war, okay? Seriously. It was me. I had everything to do with it.

I learned Korean. No, we totally did not. I don't read, but I somehow learned Korean. So we also learned that the list of 49 questions was written by Seculo in this report, which means it was leaked by Trump's side, which makes Trump's tweet, the leak is a disgrace, extra hilarious. Very Trump-y, you're very disgraceful, yes. You and all of your people.

It could not have been leaked by Mueller's side because there's no list like it on the Mueller team. Plus, it was full of grammar and spelling errors. So they were pretty sure it came from Trump's side. Yeah. It's J. Secula's list is basically what it boils down to. Something very important to consider, though. I want to tell you, Mueller would not have suggested he could subpoena Trump if that idea was not fully vetted within the

Department of Justice, meaning Rosenstein is on board with a subpoena of the president of the United States. And something else, if Mueller does subpoena the president, this could drag out the investigation as it winds its way through the courts. However, it's likely they'd find a way to fast track it. Wednesday, Ty Cobb left the president's legal team and apparently, Emmett T. Flood. They told you never saw men in trouble were the lost that's a day they was born. Emmett T. Flood, cute, cute, cute. Emmett is a big deal. He's a good lawyer. He had first turned down the president twice. We reported on those both times, so I'm not sure what's different this time. The only thing I can think of is he might be gunning for McGahn's job. I wonder what he has up his sleeve though that he's willing to take this case. It makes me nervous.

He represented Bill Clinton in his impeachment proceedings. Oh, wow. Who lost, by the way. True, but. Bill went. Interesting. Yeah, he worked under Clinton. Ty Cobb was apparently uncomfortable with Trump attacking Mueller in his tweets.

So I'm hoping Emmett Flood maybe brings some sense of reasonableness to the I doubt it. Yeah, I hope not. I think his day, I don't think he'll last very long. He'll get in there, he'll be like holy shit. He'll just, I'm out. I would like for them to be represented by the most incompetent people. Which is what's happening really. Yeah. Um Caputo spoke to Mueller on Wednesday, and Jolise is going to go over and interview he did afterwards with us. Mikey Caputo. We found out Wednesday that Cambridge Analytica shut down, but we expected that. We reported a while back that Emma data listed Chun Chun Co. Alex Taylor and Alexander Nyx as their directors back in January and would likely be

taking over the work of Cambridge Analytica. Chun Chun Co, by the way, incidentally, is Eric Prince's business partner in Hong Kong. Oh, what a coincidence. We also learned Wednesday that Trump paid the Ukrainian government to stop cooperating with the Mueller investigation. That's amazing. It worked. Yeah, in a form of a condo, right? Is that what it was?

No, missiles. Oh my god. She just passed. Javilan missiles. Javilan missiles. Wow. Did he just throw him over there? Here you go. Lamar's Linfrist to throwing style. Don't tell anyone about this. No, he was basically at end, this is conjecture, but I'm right. He was basically saying, I'll give you all these missiles, Ukraine, if you dropped these investigations. There were hundreds of investigations going on into the old government that was overthrown.

The guy who was overthrown that Manafort helped elect, oddly, and thousands of investigations, like documents and four of these investigations included Manafort, and they don't want to upset Trump, so they shut him down. And they're feuding with Putin, right, with Russia. Ukraine is the... of these investigations included Manafort, and they don't want to upset Trump, so they shut him down. Wow. And they're feuding with Putin, right? With Russia, Ukraine is the... They always have been, yeah.

So like, since the fall of the Soviet Union. Yeah, what a weird triangle of like a relationship there. It's going all directions. Yeah. Yeah, that is weird. I imagine Putin feels strange about that, right? Mm-hmm. He must know that Trump is doing this and still be cool with Trump for a higher or like you know bigger reason

Trump calls up Putin on the back channel is like don't worry, I'm glad selling him shitty missiles. They don't work. Yeah, they're dead. Yeah, once they get halfway They actually turn around and come back and bomb themselves glitter pops at us like doc Brown getting plutonium from the Libyans by selling them shoddy pinball machine parts or blanks like nuclear blanks. It's just a dud. Sorry. Brett calls it flat. He's like, I've got this great idea of that. He's what I'm going to do. I'm going to send fake missiles, fake missiles, tremendous fake missiles. That is a great idea.

To the Ukraine and to get them to stop investigating my contacts with Russia. I would give Trump mad props if he thought of anything close to that. I mean, there's no way to test missiles. Maybe I got to get into the missile dealing. In the blank missile building, which is not high schools, the gun missiles. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, they're expired. Missiles full of baking powder.

Yeah. Got you some popery and some missiles. Sorry. They smell deliciously clean. Then Madout did a segment. You guys are so excited. Madout did a segment on a tweet I sent her the day before about Manafort and Kalimnik. On Tuesday, Rachel did a whole segment on the New York Times reporting about the 49 questions that Mueller could ask Trump. One of them, one of those questions was about Manafort reaching out to the Russians. And she said that there had been no public reporting on anything like that, and it was

a very intriguing question. Why tweeted at her, and I reminded her, about Manafort reaching out to Russia and offering private briefings to Derepaska via Kalimnik to, quote, make whole the $18 million or so that Manafort owed him from his time working in the Ukraine. And the next day, she did a whole segment on Manafort, and Dara Pascha, and Kalimnik, and tied it into the question from the 49 questions. And she even had the guy from the New York Times

who broke the Kalimnik story in 2016 on her show. So Rachel, you owe me five bucks. You know, at the very least, it's a great minds thing to like, at best someone on her team is like, maybe checking out MSW. I wanna believe it. Like best case scenario, someone, even the intern,

that gives her coffee. I'm like, yo, just slip in a good word. I'm, she has teams of people pouring over tweets. I'm sure. I bet, yeah. And it may have been total coincidence. But it's a great one now. Interesting, interesting.

We'll make a special patron level just for you, Rachel, if you wanna say that. Oh my God, $5,000. Yeah, just for Rachel. We'll call it just for Rachel,'s a thousand dollars I'm gonna say she could be on the show for free I'm gonna just throw that out there and then we're not having room in board though damn it fine stay in my room I want to call it and be a guest I guess that would be pretty good for us yeah by the way I just have to

tell you Maddo is my hero so I don't want you to my old like passwords used to be I love Rachel Maddo. Nice. Like I swear, she's the greatest. That's amazing. She's pretty incredible. Like, I... You hack me, nobody...

I think I changed them all. Oh yeah, you dummy. It's been a couple of years. What's your sales of security, never? I'm not falling for that one, yeah. Again. I got you funny. Let's see, we learned Wednesday that Cohn and Trump

are refusing to tell Trump's own lawyers what they can expect to have been found in the Michael Cohen raids. That's hilarious to me. Trump's lawyers are pissed. How, again, how long do you think Emmett T. Flood's gonna be there? Yeah. By the time it comes out, he might be gone. Seriously, tell us. Mm-hmm. Then just when you thought it was safe to go to sleep on Wednesday, Rudy Giul goes full nunberg on Fox News more specifically on Sean Hannity's show. The news

of his revelations hit immediately and it hit hard Twitter blew up. Basically Giuliani completely destroyed Trump's Stormy Daniels defense and he said Trump had corrupt intent when he fired Comey so he proved Comey right and he fucked him on the Daniels thing. It was Unbelievable and Jordan is gonna go over that He said an idiot. Yeah. Oh my god. It's good. It's an idiot The sting it's amazing. It's yeah, it's almost flabbergassing like I don't understand it and I guess now that there are no legal Experts who can figure out what what the strategy was no the only thing I could think of is that he's paving the way to get the truth out there

because it's going to come out. Yeah. Right. Strategy-wise, but if you watch the interview, it does not seem like he's thinking at all. It's just flying into his fucking brain. And you'll get more into that, yeah. He's such a ranty psycho. Dude, it was weird.

Just like all of Trump and his homies. They called Comey perverted, whatever. Yeah. I hope. Oh, no. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one week after I meet in Greece. No, no, no. Oh, yeah. We really hope I'm just as much of a corny asshole on paper as I am your genuine spontaneously. Spontaneously.

How did I predict what I would say? By the way, how can he call Komi perverted when he calls him a choir boy at the same time? I'm just that because that wasn't his tweet. That was that's right. Okay, okay. Skavenos found the same page. Also, choir balls, balls and choir. choir choir boys are generally perverted not by the On the court. You're right. Yeah. That's just the wire has a Catholic molesting joke. Hey patterns and facts. You're right. Six a.m.

Good morning. Happy Monday. We really hope you can plan your vacation and come spend time with us on July 3rd, you guys. Anyhow, these subpoenas number 70 and each witness gets two, so that's 35 witnesses. And I assume that these are the ones that aren't cooperating because you wouldn't have to subpoena those guys. I wouldn't think. I have a question. If 35 angry, uncooperative people that are going to have to show up. That's a mob. What are you gonna say, Jordan? Why do they get two? There's a reason that's procedural.

You get one to show up and one to bring shit with you. I think I can't remember. Oh, I'm interested. I can't remember, but bring a friend to court day. It's a procedural thing. Documents, like, I'd have to look it up. The first time I read The Word Sapena, what my dad's an attorney and

He brought a home like a paper home one night. This had subpoena on it And it was also the same time that I learned of the word penis, so I was very confused That's Always Every time I see the word public I think it's this pubic And every time I see Esplanade I think it's this pubic. Yes. And every time I see Esplanade, I think it says espionage. Yeah. Virginia.

We're all human. Yeah. Yeah. All right, then we get to Friday. Judge Ellis, the judge, presiding over the Manafort case in the Eastern District of Virginia, ripped into Mueller's team about the scope of their investigation during a hearing about Manafort's motion

to have their charges dismissed. He filed a similar motion, in fact, a whole civil case, in the DC court, and that judge denied it and dismissed it. Now Fox News and the Trump heads are glomming onto this, but there's something they don't know, which is a lot. But there's this one thing they don't know. Is that Judge Ellis does this to pretty much every legal team that will likely win their case, and he does this to bolster his appearance of impartiality.

I tweeted this notion and got attacked by trumpers and Russian trolls. Well, I have a surprise for you, Daughters. Okay, so I'm gonna make a phone call right now. What? Please state your name after the tone. I go for a voiceful try to connect you. Oh. I will believe that out.

Don't worry. Thank you. This is so primitive. You have worked the one. 445 Eastern would be one. Maybe she's still in court. She's calling us back. She's calling us back. Hello? Hi, hi, yes, this is I'm great. How are you? All right, so I've been telling our listeners about a tweet that I put out saying that judge Ellis kind of has a reputation about ripping into prosecutors and I wanted to get first of, can you tell us who you are and what you do? Okay.

Well, my name is Kimberly Phillips, and I'm a attorney. I've been a criminal defense attorney for about 20 years. I am admitted to practice in Virginia, D.C., the Eastern District, and the Phillips District Board of Appeals. And so I have been in front of Judge Ellis one, but know him, know his reputation, and have some really interesting stuff that Kelly will say. Great. So let's start off by telling everybody a little bit about

how Judge Ellis operates and what it kind of, you know, I hear that rumors that this is kind of how he is. Can you go into that for us? Yes, it's exactly how he is. I think I joked on a Twitter about being Ellis, kind of changing his name into a verb, because kind of everybody who really book more him sort of, if you're not prepared,

if you're not kind, if you're not kind of really in line, he will obliterate you. And the example that I had was the case that I had with him, it was just a really simple play to lay a special security fraud case. And I never remember, there's like one element that the government didn't take into account. And he just dressed down the government attorney. And the attorney looked on the special of this United States attorney.

And what that is, it's a lot of time, people from other departments in the government will come into a U.S. attorney's office and spend like six months feeling kind of low level pages. And they're called special assistant, United States Attorney. And it's one of these things where he's part of the program that he just was like, you all need to get your special better training and have them prepared and that you know they keep coming in here. And I'm just kind of standing there like, should I do something? All right Kimberly another thing I heard was that he tends to lay into the side that might be likely

to win to kind of show impartiality. That was sort of my assertion as to why he did this. Is that kind of what you gather as well from people who've been elist? Yeah, honestly, it's for everybody. He's very big on, you can't just come in Honestly, it's for everybody. He's very big on, you can't just come in and do it just because. He wants all the eyes done as the piece crossed and that's a little bit of what I've got

for you in terms of what happened at the hearing on i.a. okay and then i think that you i think that you had told me that you have some more uh... information or a scoop for us on ed v a and the man of four cases that correct i do it can i call you right back because you're calling me to the court oh my goodness yes they're calling you in the court no problem be careful thank you this is spent just killing me. I love it. She's a busy one. She is. She's tearing it up. She'll call us back in the middle of the show. I'm sure she will. She'll call you back. She'll call us back. And I'm excited

to talk to her because she says she's got a bit of a scoop for us. I was a great like cliffhanger. She said, I got to go. I'm busy. I'm important. I didn't work to do, ladies. All right. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to continue on busy, I'm important. I didn't work to do, ladies. All right, so what I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna continue on with the news. Okay, when she calls back, we'll just, yeah, absolutely. That sounds good. We're just hanging out.

How'd you meet her on Twitter? Yeah, cool. We'll just take her call. Very cool. All right, so let's move on here also on Friday. We learned that another Russian oligarch fell victim to a molar stop and frisk at an airport. This one's name is Vexelberg. He's got ties to Herman

Con. And oh and he he was at the Bank of Cypress when Wilbur Ross ran it and not only did he attend Trump's inauguration, but he donated $250,000 to the inaugural fund. And Mueller imaged his phone right there at the airport. He's likely not a subject or a target, but his communications will show that Mueller is, in fact, investigating the Trump-Russia conspiracy or what Trump would call collusion. I like to imagine him flashing the little men and black thing when he's done. Do you? I don't know.

And Muller it would totally be a men and black, if it were real. If Muller was real or if men and black was real, yeah Muller would be promoted to alien investigation. Yeah, he would. Muller and black. He might be doing it. Oh my god Muller, please tell us. Muller and black.

That's a big scoop for you. Slide into my DMs. Bob, Sticks. Um, Trump on Friday through Rudy Giuliani under the bus, saying basically that he's new, and he doesn't know what he's talking about. Um, that whole thing is just a clusterfuck, by the way. I give Rudy two more weeks. Uh, Rudy, if you're listening, get out while they're getting good.

Your future in politics is dwindling. He really is. Stop your messing around. Better think of your future. Time is straight and right out. Creating problems and thoughts. I'm a message to you, Rooted. Trump spoke, this is, kills me, Trump spoke at the NRA Annual Convention on Friday. He's the first president in 30 years to do this. He did it last year too, but it makes sense because he owes them like $30 million.

He didn't want to be there. We found out Devin Nunez, Jordan's boyfriend, demands documents from the Department of Justice and then doesn't even read them. Molo Shirod actually reported on this a few months ago, but whatever, it's news now. And that makes me question his ability to read it all, really. If you remember, we talked about this.

Nunez demanded to see the unreacted two-page document about how the FBI obtained the FISA warrant to look at Carter Page and then threatened to impeach Rosenstein if he didn't hand it over. And Rosenstein allowed it, but he allowed it. He allowed Tray Gowdy and Nunez to come in without staffers into a special room and just read the document. He couldn't take it with him.

Remember? We talked about this. Oh yeah, a long time ago. And apparently, Nunez didn't even open a file. Gowdy read it, and Nunez has since acknowledged that he didn't read it, and we actually reported on that too. Hey, why ain't you running? Why can't read? And those who have read it support the continuum, so the Mueller investigation.

Gowdy, for example, he looked at the document, and he so the Mueller investigation Gowdy for example He's we looked at the document and he's like so Gowdy looks reads the thing And he's like yeah no Mueller should keep investigating and Nunez doesn't read it and releases the Nunez memo Ridiculous That's like Kanye talking about how Beck should win the album of the year before he listened to the album And then they went back and then they leaked it to all of their homies. Oh my God. Didn't they?

Yeah. They went back and didn't date. Yeah. Yes, yes. We need a Kanye mini-sode. Is that, can that be a thing? We can make it a thing. Do we have to play as music or?

I'm kidding. We have to give him money so no. That's true. We would have to be. No money for Kanye. No. No. I have control. He owes me reparations. Holy crap.

Also Friday, two FBI officials resigned Lisa Paige That's the council to Komi and McCabe. You know Lisa Paige If it sounds familiar to you, it should she's one half of the famous struck page texts That the right tried to use to say the FBI was biased. That's right. Also, James Baker left the FBI. He's one of the Comey Five. He's the one that was pushed back into an HR job after being removed as general counsel. Who was replaced by Dana Bente.

Gotta love Ray sometimes. It's great. Come on, man, you can do it. He's joining the Brookings Institute to write for law fair, which I love. The resignations are not connected to each other, according to the reporting. And they resigned, they weren't pushed out, but were they pushed out?

I mean, they were reassigned to shitty jobs. You never know. They weren't working at their full potential. Hopefully it'll come out later, but yeah, at this point it's hard to say, because it's such tricky thing. They had to get the fuck out. Definitely. Alright, you guys, thanks for sticking with me for this insane amount of news.

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Yes, I finally did it. I finally did a hot notes clip. I feel official now. It's only been 27 episodes Today Jolissa has some information for us on Michael Caputo. I wonder what his nickname is like Sammy the Bull or Jimmy the Fish. Oh, the Poot. I don't know. Tony, I'm going to call him Four Eyes because he's got glasses. Oh, three. Michael. Mikey Four Eyes Caputo.

So, I can't call me Four Eyes once and it made me sad. He was like half my age. What have you really hurt my feelings? Was that this your glasses? No. I do work glasses. Just not. I'm blind right now because it makes me prettier.

That was a little roast right there. It's all good. Yeah, no. I roast because I love. Oh, of course, you roast the ones you love. Yeah, Caputo. I don't like him, so you can call him for eyes. And Mikey, Mikey for eyes Caputo.

Mikey for eyes Caputo, yeah. All right, so yeah, geez. What do you have for us? So he was a Republican consultant throughout all this crazy Russia Trump stuff And so he worked really closely with Trump Roger Stone and Paul Manafort at a time or two what a fun group of guys I know it's like the Brody Bunch minus Brody So I have to I by the way, I'm sorry to interrupt I just want to let you know Kimberly could be calling us back at any moment I'm ready as soon as she gets out of court. So yes now that the commercials over You let me know. Yeah, I just want to let you know that a moment moment. I'm ready. As soon as she gets out of court, so now that the commercials over.

You let me know. Yeah, I just want to let you know that I'm almost noticed. I'm ready to shut up. I've turned my ringer on, so we'll hear it. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Continue.

Absolutely. So Caputo officially joined the Trump campaign in 2016 where he was put in charge of communications for New York. So he left the campaign after voicing his approval for the appointment of Paul Manafort as campaign manager. Subsequently, Caputo was investigated by Congress as part of their probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election. So in January 2018, we covered the letter that Senator Feinstein sent to Caputo asking for an interview and documents related to Paul Manafort contacts between the campaign or transition team and Russian officials and changes to the Republican

National Party platform with regard to Ukraine. Of course Caputo denies any wrongdoings asserting that he would never work with Russia during his time with the Trump campaign. How dare you? But here's the thing about Caputo and Russia. He lived and worked in Russia from 1994 to 2000. In fact, he was even employed by a Kremlin-connected energy company called Gazprom, if I'm pronouncing that right. Gazprom is a big one. We've talked about Gazprom a few times. I didn't know Caputo worked at Gazprom. That's a long time, two, six years.

I mean, you make a family. He actually married a Russian woman, which know offense to Russians in general, but yes, his wife is Russian. So that's crazy to me. Like, it's like, it's why Trump and him get along so well. Exactly. He is Jill's time. That's why she's like, no, I can't tell you my marriage license.

I can't. I'm sorry. I know too many Russians. I feel somehow oddly offending being offensive to Russians. Well, we don't want to be racist or like crazy like nationalists. Nationalists, there you go. Is that the term? Yeah, yeah.

Because the racist is color of the skin. You're right, and we are strictly just Kremlin. We are anti-Kremlin. We're anti-Russian government. Anti-Russian government. Just anti-corrupt Kremlin. There you go. Okay.

Anti-Russian government. Anti-that. His wife could be totally cool. Anti-Auto-Credit. That's absolutely right. Just jokes. But he did live and work there for a long time. In fact, he was employed by that company.

And his task at this company was to quote, increase the standing of the public relations value of Putin, specifically with regards to Putin support level in the US. So I'm being exposed to lobbying for Putin. I bet he didn't register as a foreign law. Oh, I mean, did any of them, like, and recently, after being interviewed by the Senate on Tuesdays, they haven't really prosecuted

anybody under that much. You're right. So people just don't feel the urge, like the urgency to do it. But after this, hopefully it'll become a new thing. Yeah, like, an enforced thing. It better. I mean, we gotta have something.

And the Logan Act. Yeah. Stop fucking pretending better. I mean, we gotta have something. And the Logan Act. Yeah. Stop fucking pretending you're the president when you're not yet. We should have a fantasy, like, future- I think that's the legal league. I think the official words of the Logan Act.

Yeah. Yeah. So basically, oh, sorry. Caputo was interviewed by the Senate on Tuesday and by Mueller investigators on Wednesday. And we're now better able to outline the differences between Congress's questions and Mueller's questions. So Caputo told CNN that Mueller's team

is very much so still focused on a Russian collusion. And specifically, he said, quote, it's clear that they are still really focused on Russian collusion. They know more about the Trump campaign than anyone who ever worked there. He also said, I know, it's like, it's great because honestly, the Trump campaign was such a disjointed shit show.

Oh, yeah. That nobody knew what anybody was doing most of the time. They had to send emails. People did get permissions to do certain things. Certain things. But like, the right hand is not talking to the left hand. And so for one guy to know more about your campaign than anyone who worked on a campaign.

It's really concerning. It's concerning, but it's also. I mean, we're happy about it, but it's concerning for sure. It seems obvious that that would be the case. Because it was a chaos. Anybody looking at it from the outside is gonna have a better take objectively speaking.

Understanding of what the... Even Session said it was a chaotic campaign. The people in it were like, I don't know what was happening. It's a chaotic campaign, chaotic white house, because I think, and I honestly do believe Trump were a likes chaos. But then he'll come back and yell at the media for distracting, from distracting, from real news like taxes going down for Americans and Korea stuff.

You're taking away from that, but he's the one who creates it. So you can't, like I've told my friend, I have a good friend before, I was like, you can't be a bitch and then not be cool with the consequences. Right. You be a bitch of your own risk based. Yeah, and yeah, and I was a bitch for a while and I had a great time. But you can't do that and then be upset that people don't like you. Exactly. So you can't create chaos and then be upset that the media reports on it. Instead of what you want them to report on, just a thought, I know you listened, Donald. I know you're listening. I know you're listening.

I'm a tremendous podcaster. Yes. I know you're listening. Hopefully when you go to jail, they'll pump this show into your jail cell, non-stop 24-7, along with Rachel Maddow. Can we ask Mueller to put that in on his sentencing? Yes. Just a little star.

Muller, I know you listen. Because the name is on this podcast. Please don't sue us. And I think it's going to be great. That would be tremendous. But anyway, please continue. Absolutely. No, very good points.

Caputo went also on to say that the Senate and the House are net fishing. The special counsel is spear fishing. They know what they are aiming at and they are deadly accurate. Hell yeah, that's so fucking cool. Damn. And then he's like, there's no collusion, but they're looking into it and they're really good.

This guy is team Trump, by the way, Caputo is team Trump. That's what I'm saying. There's no collusion, there's nothing. But we gotta watch out. Oh wait, no, Caputo talks more. There's no collusion, there's nothing. But we gotta watch out. Oh wait, no, Caputo talks more, there's no collusion, there's nothing going on. I'm four eyes Mikey, Caputo. You interviewing me?

Oh look. So hello to my little friend. No, that's a different. Yeah, his friend is right. That's a completely different continent. Sorry. We're not totally accurate with our impressions, but the gangsters are gangsters.

The gangsters are gangsters, right? Absolutely. A gangster by any other name would smell a sweet. Yes. I think Shakespeare said that. I think so. For like Gandhi. No, it was Shakespeare. After, yeah, you're right. After the Senate interview, Caputo went off on the intelligence committee. So he complained that the probe cost him $125,000 and that now he's forced to move out of his home in buffalo just to pay off his legal bills stop breaking the law asshole thank you uh... and a prepared statement he said quote your investigation in others into allegations of trump campaign collusion with russia are costing my family a great deal of

money more than a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars and making a visceral impact on my children. My children! I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Did we cost you $120,000 or did you cost you $125? It's time to take a swim and lake you, Caputo. Thank you. You did this to yourself and it fucking drives me crazy when people do not accept responsibility

for their own actions and blame everyone else. We are all guilty of something and Komi talked about this. Well, I'm not, but you know, it's right. I hate it when people don't accept responsibility for their own actions. Exactly. It's a big pet peeve of mine too because I know we're all human if you just come out with it. But just to conclude, he added, quote, forget about all the death threats against my family. I want to know who cost us so much money, who crushed our kids, who forced us out of our

home, all because you lost an election. I want to know because God damn you to hell. Yeah, God damn you to hell. He said that to the Congress. Are you going to add like a God up in storm now? Seriously, it's like Bill Cosby saying, I don't have a private jet you asshole to the judge. It's like I know you are angry, but realize that this sounds like justice to a lot of people. Like, even if you didn't do anything to go gel time, if you were caught up with these sketchy

people to the fact where you are, Mueller is not going to call you if he doesn't need you. He's not going to call you if you don't have something already evidence-wise. So justice is blind. Justice is blind. And so is Bill Cosby. Yes. After you take a quailude. He's not going to be able to see those people sneaking up on him in prison. Oh my gosh. Screw him. And yes, and you know what? I don't feel bad. You can email me and treat it me all you want. Please be nice.

You be gentle. You'll be a good human. I'm like no, no, no. When karma happens, I will celebrate it every single time. And we talk about subjective morality, but at some point you have to decide which side are you on, which if it's all gray, which shade of gray. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? I have talked about objective morality. Right, and I stand by subjectivity. I just know that at some point I have to make a decision

about where I am on the spectrum of that. There are two, for me there's two sides. You either do the wrong thing or you do the right thing. I agree with that. I just, and we don't have to get into it. It's a big deal, but I love you. I love that you bring that up because I believe that you're not wrong because I believe

that everyone can be right in the right circles. Oh, I see. Because you believe in subjectum or anything. You just go along with what I say. Also on your spectrum. No, no, no, it's two things. That's pretty meta. So if I say everything's objective,

you say you're right. I agree with you because I'm subjective. Exactly, but I also happen to fall on your side of the spectrum. That's hilarious. I'm not a terrorist, so I believe that what you're saying is right. Do you know that? Have you checked the terrorist watch list? It's a good point.

I don't know. But yeah, that's the just of the whole Caputo update. And that's a, yeah. I appreciate you bringing that to us. That guy's four eyes, Mikey four eyes. Four eyes, Caputo. Again, that's my nickname for him. That guy is four eyes Mikey four eyes. Four eyes. Okay, that's my nickname for him. That's another thing. Hey, we're not perfect. Well, speak for your side of the table if you want. I love you.

ENTJ. What? What? Yes. Okay, no, actually I do have many faults. I'm just not going to tell you what they are. Phone or ability? You're smart. I don't do it. I'll give you that. You're very very smart. For keeping a shirt, phone or. I don't do it. I'll give you that. You're very, very smart for keeping a shirt.

Vulnerability. Don't do it. Yeah. Anyway, thank you for that. Jordan. Thank you. Jordan. Queen of the Meltdown reports.

You brought us the full nunberg, then you brought us the Trump Fox Meltdown, and now you have for us the Giuliani Hannity Shit Show. Yes, this may be one of my favorite meltdowns so far. It was really good. Yeah, because the Trump one was manic and insane gave me anxiety for sure This one was slow and stupid and made me laugh. Yep, and hilarious because this guy used to be the mayor of fucking New York And he was the US Attorney district attorney in this other district in New York. Yeah, he's coming his first like major boss and Komi

It Komi's old job Komi had that job before he was direct to the FBI. Yep, yep, which we'll talk about in our book. If you guys aren't part of the MSW book club, this week is really intense and fantastic and beautiful and sad and hilarious. Seriously, for us little is a dollar a month. One dollar. You can listen to the book club. Yeah, very affordable, very worth it. Yep, so Rudy Giuliani He ran for the presidency also and is in his heyday and there's there's this guy that made such funny

Little political chance and jingles for each of the candidates and Rudy Giuliani's was Ney He's tough Security Remember that was that real was he joking? He's tough. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, oh, security. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, rules, jab, jab. Sad tire is dead. It's dead. You cannot, you cannot any longer assume that something is fake or real. I need a disclaimer at all times. Like I'll retweet something from a Sarah Sanders account

where she said, I'm proud to be associated with Aunt Lydia and I'm like, holy shit. And someone's like, that's a joke. Right, you never know. It didn't sound like one. That seemed like something she would say. Seriously. Anyway, sorry, please. Oh, yeah

No problem. If I can find those clips. I'll see if I can put them on our newsletter. Maybe you're so Thank you. I like your impression though. I was pretty good Oh I'm glad that you sang them too that way we don't have to pay for Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right Keep the wine coming out except it didn't that. I love how you have this like Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Pay you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

Keep the wine going. I'll accept it. Didn't that. I love how you have this, like, sitting here going to waste nutrition drink. Yeah. And then your wine is right in front of you. She's bad. She's bad.

It's some green shit. It's a matcha lemonade. Oh. Oh, okay. It looked like some wheat grass. Oh, god. I took a shot of wheat grass once and I booked a brew up immediately. I love wheatgrass. In 30 seconds I took a run of the bathroom and for a track tile vomit and

it cleansed you right. It tastes the idea. That was pretty immediate. It tastes like it tastes like Clovers to me and I used to eat those when I was young. It's a lucky punk. Do you? Sorry. What? I went a big stretch there. I went from four-leaf closer, look, clover to Lucky to Clint Eastwood. So my mind works at like triple speed. Yeah, that was fast. Thank you. That was fast. To record.

It did. There's like a monorail going on. I'm really slow, over time you feel in the, wow. Yeah, my brain is like weird. See? That's why she's here. That's she's an asset to me. Thank you. Yes To all of us not just me. I'm not just using her. I didn't

You're just not I mean you're not okay. We'll talk about we'll talk about what Kanye said later. Oh, yeah Fuck Kanye anyway. Sorry. I don't know if people believe that I do I Believe fuck Kanye If you love Kanye, we're so sorry. Please don't email us and you're weird. Yeah. He's done unforgettable things in the last few weeks. Okay. Anyway. So Rudy Giuliani showed up on Sean Hannity this week and made every true Patriot's life so much better. He, number one, admits that Trump fired Comey because Comey would not tell the American people that Trump was not a target of Comey's investigation. Correct intent.

Correct intent. It was. So, of course. That's combined with Trump himself saying it was because of Russia, this Russia thing, Russia, China. China and Russia. That, it is... The only problem is that it's Giuliani saying it exact yeah Giuliani also says subpoena

Sorry about your micro subpoena Oh my god, I'm gonna have to serve you two subpoenas. Just overcompensate. This is so sweet. Oh my god, that's beautiful. So thank you, Julie Annie. They give you a hug. You're like herpes. You just, you never go away.

But there's nothing really funny and awesome about herpes. They'll never mind. Glitter. You're just like glitter There you go. You're enjoyable and I can't get rid of you. Yes. That's a great. That is a huge left turn from her piece I applaud you Yeah, her piece just like glitter To get out of that head space you were in and get glitter. That was amazing. Thank you So he does that

Which which of course contradicts the tale that Trump has been saying this whole time, which is that he was firing Komi over his handling of the Hillary investigation. So thank you, Giuliani, for showing me. I think we have a mini-sau this week going over all the different reasons Komi was firing. Oh yeah.

Given by many different people. Right. Many different sides. Right. So who knows what to really. If you are a patron, if you're spending a dollar a month to get the book club the higher loyalty the the entire archive of all of our mini soads Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna hear that this week. It's it's pretty funny. It's a good one. Yeah

So fucking idiot Giuliani and and and so after he does that and this one Sean Hannity interview He then goes on to admit that while Cohen paid off Stormy Daniels with his personal money, Cohen was then reimbursed personally by Donald Trump himself. This was a huge moment. Before Juliani could even finish his words, Hannity buts and it says, really, I'm pretty positive that Trump said he did not do that and And knew nothing of the entity's face. He's all, yeah. I wish you could see my face right now. It's like a thumb with a face on it, really.

It is, it's so square. I know. Yeah. And so this is hilarious. This is a two-witch Giuliani response. I'm not sure, actually. I haven't investigated it myself yet. What a great lawyer going on national television

Speaking about the crux of the investigation into your client and misspeaking you fucking idiot. It's like he didn't even No, no, you're wonderful. You're fantastic. Keep it up. He really is. You're amazing. That was an amazing performance Yes, he is just continues. We need more like it. Oh yeah, Stormy Daniels lawyer responds after this happens, just saying, thank you, God. I'm gonna have an Audi got on TV and he's like, he calls up, I think it was on MSNBC or CNN and like so, I was so don't all I think. He's like, so what do you think about what happened? And I have an Audi's like, I believe in God now. As your listeners know, I've never been rendered speechless.

And I am speechless. Seriously. Wow. He's like, I don't even know what to say. Should be on the calendar or maybe like, he's a slimy fucking lawyer. He is. But sexy ant. Like, he looks like a little.

I think Stormy's would be more. You're right. Why didn't I ever consider Stormy? She's about us. Yeah, yeah. All right, we'll talk to you about it. Yeah, we'll talk to you about it yourself, but that's like virtually impossible.

So some guy posted things like, who would it be? Why didn't he even fuck such an ugly porn star? Look at that ugly piece of shit. Oh my gosh, she and I responded, like says the guy with a dog is his profile picture. Yeah, I don't know. And I don't mean like he actually has his puppy like

Wonder what you look like so like afraid to be themselves online. Yeah, dude jerked off to her at least a hundred times Yeah, that's just like John spur likes pictures a sailboat Probably from that ad for John Kerry when it's like jog carry's always switching sides Sailing and like flips Okay, he's always switching sides to the same sailing and then like flips. Yeah, it's one other way flips again. Go see other. Interesting or technique. Yeah, metaphor.

You've got going there. Yeah, I like it. I like it. If you guys don't know, we're talking about John Spurlock. If you haven't been listening since episode like three, you wouldn't know what this is. This is guy who got onto our page and said, if you keep talking like you will, I'm gonna fuck you in the heart, bitch.

I think he was romantically confused about his political feelings. And that's, yeah, that's so true. And then he asked to meet up with AG for coffee. And he said, we're on opposite sides of this thing, but we should meet up. And to show that we can you unite and like, oh my God. To be fair, the other kind of Republican having sex might be pretty cool.

I'm just thinking. I'm sorry, what? I'm sorry, I might have to edit this out, but I was just saying a Democrat Republican having sex might be pretty cool, just in terms of like. My husband's a Republican. Oh, there you go. That's right. That's right.

Do you remember James Carville? Yeah, James Carville is wife. Yeah. I've always blew my mind. I like that. I watched them do a talk together at UNLV once. They go and they do like a little debate. And then they just get off the stage and say,

I'm a fucking fuck. Maria Shriver. His wife? Yeah. I don't remember her name. I think it's Shriver. Yeah, we don't hate Republicans. Obviously, you're married to one.

It's just funny how he was this like extreme hater. I think Maria Shiber was a Kennedy. Yeah. I don't know. I'll have to look that up. Well, look at that. It's always blew my mind. And that's okay, because life is multifaceted

and we can all love each other. But not after you say you're going to fuck someone in the heart. Even then, my husband is not a Trump supporter. So, okay. Oh, you're not. He's just like a traditional conservative, maybe fiscally or some social. Oh no, Mary Madeline.

Okay, yeah, that's great. Madeline, I remember. Yeah. My thing is, Ieline. Okay, yeah that's right. Yeah, that's right. My thing is, I'm only a Democrat because it's kind of the way I was raised to be. I haven't even done enough research to know where I fall exactly because I don't think I'd be Republican. But who knows? I couldn't tell you all of the things that make Republicans Republicans. Top of my head, I feel like the same thing goes for religion.

I have a lot of research to do. Maria Schreiber Is a Kennedy and she was Schwarzenegger's wife I'm not getting interesting. Yeah, like you said Jordan. We're like fucking a Kennedy isn't enough You got to hit the house where the the maid as well, so right right. I don't know if I was fucking a Kennedy I'll try write songs about it. I think Schwarzenegger's trying to reform the GOP He might someone needs to wave the Or what's it called, right? Isn't it called like new way?

It might die if no one saps up. There's certain have like meetings. I'm not anti-GOP. I'm anti the current GOP. You know, like I'm all for a multi-party system. You don't want one anything, but yeah, right now it's just crap. Yes. So, sorry, just a jump.

I guess what I'm saying. Of course, yeah, go for it. I was sweating like a Viltabees. We're all sweating up in the CL. So, okay. So, hot town summer is here. Yeah, all right. San Diego.

San Diego's uncomfortable. All right, so. The one day. Yeah. So, basically, Giuliani says he admits, yeah, this way segways, just trying out words. Nice segway. So Giuliani says he admits that he hasn't even investigated the issue himself before he goes on national television and speaks to it, brilliant.

Then, as if that wasn't enough, Giuliani goes on to Fox and Friends, the same set that we once thought to have had a meltdown on last week, and he doubles down on everything he says and says the exact same thing I didn't know that yeah, I didn't know he fox and friends it. There's a second interview So a lot of the quotes that I was seeing on the internet are actually pulled from the Hannity and then also the fox and friends interview Oh I was a bit confused about the exactly Galady about why exactly the the stormy Daniels payoff situation is a violation violation of campaigns finance laws campaign for eleven days before the uh... thing right

before the campaign or the election no no no what what i'm days before the election no no eleven days was komi there we go uh... no what happened was within thirty days of the election uh... if you if kohen made a hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment just for to Army Daniels to keep her quiet. That's considered a campaign contribution because it helped. Now, John Edwards had a similar situation where he paid off a woman to keep quiet, but he did it a year and a half before his election.

That was enough time. So they considered it a private matter, but he was still, you know, anyway. Campanian, technically. Well, no, he wasn't camping. Oh, I'd all, okay, okay. So they considered a private matter. So he did not violate campaign. Okay, okay. Because this happened within a couple of weeks before the campaign so close

Yeah, what they're saying is that this is this this payment had to have had a benefit to the campaign Otherwise, why would they do it then and not right and Giuliani himself said imagine. Oh, hey, it's time Kimberly Phillips is calling us back. Let's do it. Okay Put a pin in it put some beans on it. Let's do it. Okay. Put a pin in it. Put some beans on it. Some beans on it. We're gonna answer this call. Hello, Kimberly. How was court? I'm sorry. Hey, I didn't have you on speaker. How was court? It was good. My client got to go home to let me do a good thing. Excellent, as a good attorney, and congratulations.

Thank you. All right, so I think you were about to tell us about your new scoop about the EDVA Mana Fort case. Exactly. So this is this soup of the shout out to my friend, Blake Hunter, who is a brilliant attorney in the Eastern District who's in practicing for 20 years there. And he has to actually be in the hearing during this particular motion. Oh, the one where Ellis went off, the one where Ellis went off on the prosecution? Exactly.

So I got some inside scoop and he knows everybody, knows all the prosecutors, knows who judges, knows the defense attorneys, no everyone, so he's a reliable. Can he get me a Mueller's autograph, or at least Weissman's? I don't know, I will ask him that. Oh, thank you. He said,

well I asked him, I said, well, you know, why wasn't the case given to the Eastern District of Virginia to do for what they did with Cohen up in New York? And it turns out that back in 2005, when it's Rosenberg, was the United States attorney in the Eastern District, they looked into these cases. Well, you're not talking about Rosenstein You're not talking about Rose and Stein right you're talking about Rosenberg Rosenberg who was the US attorney for the Eastern District got it. I just wanted to clarify So not Rosenstein

the different Chuck Rosenberg who was the US attorney for the Eastern District back in 2005 I see so they they actually considered these Manafort cases and turned them down. They considered them and turned them down. Wow. So that's why it wasn't given back to the EPA. Which I thought was interesting because I was like, yeah, that would kind of solve everything. But the EDVA had already passed on these years ago.

And when they passed on them, do they not try again? Even though there might be a new then you run into statute of limitations problem because you have to leave it back into the Russian investigation in order to be the statute of limitations. Oh see. All these events occurred in 2005 with statute of limitations wrong wrong i believe that after eight years though he can no longer be prosecuted for whether you can look at that and to the uh... a scheme with the rush and all that

all i think it's okay to come back at i get it now so it would be beyond the statute of limitations if it did not have anything to do with the current rush at investigation but because it does and I'm assuming there are some there's some things that we still don't know about how this is tied into the Russia investigation with collusion uh... if it does tie in with it then it brings it more current and and makes them they can bring it back up and part of conspiracy going all the way back. So that's one of the interesting things that I learned. I didn't know.

I didn't know that either. I thought they weren't bringing it back up in the Eastern District of Virginia because it tied in with Russian collusion. And we just didn't know how yet. And so I didn't know about the statute of limitations and that somebody had already Turned it down. That's oh, that's clearly turned it down Wow wow

That's the interesting thing and then the green the are the solicitor general for the United States. And I don't know if you long know this, basically in federal world, the solicitor general's office is sort of your elite appellate White House attorneys.

So Supreme Court just has Kagan, whether solic a general. So they're like sort of, if there's a really like kind of broad, important political issue that is going up to appeal, the solicitors' general is obviously having that as opposed to the US attorney's office. Oh yeah, and no well-friends, no well-friends, Cisco is the current solicitor general and he just argued in front of the Supreme Court about the Muslim ban. That was a, yeah, and that was one of the

funds of intentions for Ellis and the hearing on Friday was why is the solicitor general coming in to argue this particular motion? And that's the head of why he made the request about, well, aren't you all just filing these charges that we're going to get into? Okay, hang on a second. Hang on a second. Hang on a second.

So Noel Francisco was arguing on behalf of Mueller's team in EDVA, or not, well, who, I'm sorry, explain to me. So our solicitor general is Noel Francisco. And he you're saying he was arguing the case for Mueller's team? No, no, one of the solicitor general, one of his staff, the solicitor general, but one of his staff. Okay, so theitor general, but one of its staff. Okay, so the special prosecutor, the special assistant prosecutor for Mueller, was not actually arguing the case for Mueller's team.

Well, this particular solicitor is working with Mueller's team. Okay. I gotcha. Okay. Somebody out of that. But the court was sort of like, why isn't just kind of a regular assistant doing that? Why do you have a staff from the solicitor's general's office? Why do you have a solicitor general office?

And the court basically, the court sort of challenged him and said, you know, what in the memorandum, the Rossi memorandum, gets you to these 2005 bank fraud charges. And the brain who was arguing the motion basically said to the court, the Rothstein memo is not meant to be relied upon as the full scope of the special counsel investigation. And you're talking about the four-page Rosenstein memo that was mostly redacted, that kind of they used- They were mostly redacted. That's the one that they-

As of wait, hang on, that's the one that they used in the DC court to to fight Manifort civil case to dismiss the charges. And then file the same thing when you file the same type of argument. And it's the memo that the GOP is trying to file impeachment proceedings about because they're demanding a full unredacted version of that memo, which Rosenstein has refused. Exactly. And the judge, so the, so I mean, solicitor general basically says, you know, that memo's

not meant to be relied upon as an entire scope of what the special council can do. And the judge basically came back with, well, you know, that kind of excuse, work on my children, but not on my wife. But not on my wife. So why won't you let me be the judge in this case? Because he's the judge. That would be a good idea.

You're a good judge. You know, I appreciate that a lot from him. And I hear he's tough. I hear they also call the EDVA the rocket docket because things get through there. And my understanding is that there's one of the 18 charges on his taxes is the statute of limitations is set to expire in October.

But I'm thinking that, well, first of all, there's 17 other charges, but I'm also thinking that they might be done with it by then because this Ellis guy seems like he means business. Yeah, everything moves very, very fast. Once it's on the court's bracket, they're like, we just want to get it off. Nothing hangs around for years on it.

Excellent. Interesting. All right, Kimberly. Oh, sorry, go ahead. Excellent. Interesting. All right Kimberly. Oh sorry go ahead you got more. So yeah for the court as you said the court also has not seen the unregacted version and they're like we want the unregacted version. And so yeah and I don't mind them giving it to the court. I mind them giving it to to Congress where they can like it to the White House. That's exactly. So it's kind of one of these things really can't read into whether or not he is you know for the government or for

the defense or gonna grant a motion or not for a motion but like I said he's very thorough so he wants you turnish to come in and say hey look prove to me there's a legal basis for doing this beyond the where the government trust us all right great well it sounds like he's just doing his due due diligence and is for doing this beyond the where the government trust us. All right, great. Well, it sounds like he's just doing his due diligence. And man, Kim, I really appreciate you coming on today and explaining that to us, given us that inside scoop. So thank you very much.

And we'll be talking soon. Great. And I'm totally smart so like you guys are also. How can we get? Okay. Thank you so much. I feel it's completely like legitimate now. Thank you. Have a good weekend. Bye. Bye.

Bye. Holy crap you guys. Yeah, that's crazy. That was definitely worth it. Oh my gosh. I'm going to have to listen to that. Take it all in. And then I'm going to do him any so to about it next week. You got it. Oh my gosh. I'm gonna have to listen to that. Take it all in. And then I'm gonna do him any so to about it. You got it. Yes. Everything she said is insane intense. She knows somebody that was in the courtroom when

Judge Ellis did that. She told us about why Judge Ellis does these things. And she broke some news. Yes. That's good. Good. Intense. Oh, you know what? At Rachel Maddow, I'll hit you up. I'll I'll tweet it to you so you can have it. Yeah. Yeah. Thank. Intense. You know what? Rachel Maddow, I'll hit you up. I'll tweet it to you so you can have it. Yeah. Thank you, Kim. Maybe a shout out. Hey, never known.

You're just saying. All right. So anyway, Jordan, you were, I believe. Yeah, I did my own research on that. And basically, the short answer of why that's not okay for him to have paid off Cohen is because it's considered a campaign contribution if it's going to do any damage control and you can legally contribute unlimited amounts of money to your own campaign but the money has to be disclosed on campaign finance of course and it wasn't so that's what I mean.

And if he, I heard if Cohen had paid the $130,000 in Trump, paid him back immediately, it wouldn't be a problem. Right. Over time. Well, it would have been a problem because he didn't report it as a campaign expenditure. That's the main have been a problem because he didn't report it as a campaign expenditure. That's the main thing, I think it said you didn't report it. So there's two things, either it's a contribution helping the campaign and then kind contribution, which is illegal, or it's an expenditure of the campaign which wasn't reported.

Right. And it's not the first time I have a report. If Cohen just, if Cohen paid it and didn't get paid back, it would have been an unreported and kind contribution. Exactly. And then if Trump does it, then that's just even fucking worse. Yeah. It's still rocking a hard place there.

So basically, Giuliani just completely incriminated. I mean, obviously, it wasn't any sort of official statement, but it's just hilarious. A couple of things that I thought were just interesting that are kind of random observations I made about this interview that Giuliani does with Hannity is the amount that he and Hannity are both referring to Donald Trump as a friend. It's really disturbing to me. Yeah, it's like, and Cohen.

Yeah, exactly. Like, he's a friend, he's a good guy. So he's a nice guy. I'm on the stone, all of them. Yeah, at one point Giuliani calls him Donald and then steps back and it's like, well, President Trump, you know, he, like, to Danity once he was like, you know, Donald. And it's like, God, this is just such a perfect reason.

It's a perfect encapsulation of how corrupt this entire thing is. This guy had zero, zero experience in politics. He runs for the presidency. His relationship with these people based on when Giuliani was a mayor and a prosecutor in New York is entirely based on him being a really big businessman who Giuliani's revealing he was good friends with at the time so much so that they're on such a first-name basis that he would let that slip in and how much eruption can the country even take so blatantly before we just all say like wait a minute, this is why I understand when people are upset when they compare Trump to Hitler because Hitler killed millions of Jewish people in Trump. He let a couple of Americans get stumped out and he bombed a few Syrians.

I get that that's like still wrong in its own, you know, right? But yeah, Trump isn't Hitler on a murdering stance, but we're talking about the propaganda and the oligarchy. Well, we could say here and talk about how many people are gonna die because they don't have health care. How many people are dying in Flint, Michigan? How many people died in Puerto Rico? How many people died in the Virgin Islands?

How many? You're totally right. And someone brought up a good point just with that Flint, Michigan thing. Compton still doesn't have clean water either. There's cities all over. How is this America? I just don't understand it. The level of corruption and greed and concentrated wealth

is like so staggering and it's awful that we've grown the sensitized to it. We thought that we wouldn't be susceptible to this kind of, you know, government corruption. We knew that we always had corruption but we never knew that this would be, I never knew that this would be this level. I think the curtains getting pulled back

and we're just starting to actually get a taste of what's always been going on. It's kind of like violence on people are colored by the cops. Yeah, absolutely. Everyone's like, is there just a crazy rise of violence on people look out? No, there's a crazy rise of people having cell phones.

Yeah, absolutely. The violence is the same. Yeah, totally. And you're like, this is actually been going on forever. And it's actually better than it was before and it's still the most horrible thing I've ever seen. Yeah, absolutely.

So the fact that it's declined to what it is now is blows my mind because we didn't have cell phone videos. Evidence. What used to be happening? Yeah, if slaves had smartphones, I would joke about if they had freedom. You have some would be funny slavery jokes, by the way. If you guys are into slavery humor, come to our meet me up. You'll see Julie's business. July

third, meet and greet. I'm going to make you do all of your slavery. You got it. Yes. Also, your art is incredible. Your paintings are amazing. Thank you. I want to make a muller-sh wrote, based painting. Maybe we can put it up on the store someday. Yeah, we'll talk about it. That plantation one works just fine. Hey, you got it. That works for the trumpet and the station.

I can whip that up anytime. So just put Ty Cobb in there. He looks like a plantation owner. He didn't work out fine. Yes, yes. So just to wrap this up, the last couple things that I thought were noteworthy in this interview was what Giuliani says about mull Mueller versus what he says about Comey.

Giuliani actually gives a very positive review of Robert Mueller. He says he's worked with Mueller. He's a really trustworthy guy. He's a good person. He's a patriot. He's done so much for our country. He trusts him. He's a straight shooter.

He says it's everybody else on Mueller's staff that he does not like. And he doesn't trust. Holy shit. Yeah. But it was really interesting to hear him say, so many positive things, right? That's probably what he's thinking. Seriously.

Yeah. So yeah, it's interesting to see Giuliani reveal a sort of almost like reverence, honestly, for Mueller, just complete respectability when he speaks about him, which is amazing. Everyone does. Everyone has incredible respect for him, except for Trump and Everyone does. Everyone has incredible respect from except for Trump and Trump supporters.

They think he's Satan out to get him. Right, lying about everything. And you know what, the day that you go to war and get shot in the leg and watch a friend die, and get a purple heart and two bronze stars, you can come and talk to me about who's an asshole and who's not. And until then, you are not allowed.

Take a fucking seat. And then, when Giuliani talks about Comey, he says, uh, everything that we hear Trump saying about Comey, he's a leaker and a liar. He's, he says he even goes as far as to say that God made a mistake in putting Comey in the position that he was in as FBI director. They're trying to appeal to those events that like fuck up stuff. Well, he's also trying to really hurt Comey's feelings. Yeah. Because Comey is a religious man. He is.

He's not as religious as like John Ashcroft, who he used to work for. But he still has faith. Yeah. Because John Ashcroft like didn't dance, didn't drink, didn't smoke, didn't do anything. And at one point, he, Comey used the word turd in the meeting, and it really, really upset John Ashcroft.

And he had to talk to him about it later. And he wouldn't even say it to him He's like, what did I say? And he's like, it rhymes with word. Oh my gosh. And Komi's all like, because Komi's like, did I drop an f-bomb and not remember? I would remember that. So, so Komi's religious, but he's not like, but we just say that just right. Yeah, he got a lot to say turd religious. That's completely great. So natural though, like we all have them. Sorry. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I guess you can't say it. Oh, okay. Yeah, what did you think?

We all have. Well, I remember growing up watching the breakfast club on TBS, and there was a point where he says you're a gutless turd, and they edit that to a gutless worm. And I was like, what? Turd. That's hilarious. That's funny, because gutless worm is a better burn, I think.

That's a good thing. That was in certain grade. I wrote it, aren't all turds gut-ful? Like, don't they all come from the gut? They're just a sliding gut. That's basically all of what I mean. So how can you possibly be a gutless turd? You just appear out of thin air as a turd,

and then you are a gutless. You spawned from no gut. Yeah, I love it. You sprung forth from the armor of the PC. But he has head or he or whoever that got, I don't know, myths. People think PC culture is a new thing, but like in second grade, I know. Second grade, so I'm 25, this is 20 years ago. Let me Bruce.

Yeah, like I wrote a, I did a drawing where I said smoking sucks and my teacher had a parent teacher conference to talk about why I felt comfortable saying the word sucks in second grade. Damn. I actually like your, I feel like it was, I had some depth to it because when you smoke, you do suck. Yeah. So smoking literally sucks. Exactly, but my teacher was like, why does she know the word suck? She's so dick like, I don't know what they were thinking. No, sucks is strong language. Is it? For, yeah, like, you know, that's so weird to me in 2018. Yeah, I guess I don't say to me more,

but back then it was the same as like that flame. Did you go to Catholic school? No, public school in New Orleans. Okay, that's really really weird. Very weird. We also had a chocolate milk in a square bag. Oh, I'm gonna sleep out there. Yeah, yeah, bagged milk.

I've only heard about bagged milk though from people that are a generation before me. Yeah, we were just really poor. Yeah, New Orleans public school. That's government milk. It's yeah. All right, you guys, I'm going to talk a little bit about the Republicans in Congress,

specifically the House of Representatives. And namely, Jim Jordan, Nunez, your buddy, Jordan's boyfriend. So I'd say one guy's hot, your team, your team. I just like Brunette's. My friend and I have been playing this game for about 20 years called your team, where if we see like a creepy asshole or like just somebody we fucking hate, we're just like your team, we assign them to your team.

Yeah, that's your boyfriend. And we aren't allowed to play at the county fair because that's just not fair. It's just me. We call it the unfair rule. It's a good game. It's just mean. We call it the unfair rule. It's a good thing. That's so funny. There are certain places we just, when it's off limits. But all the time, every day of our life,

for the last 20 years, we play your team. So it's so funny. Anyway, Nunez is on your team. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows.

Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. Meadows. and good lot, or good latte, whatever his name is. They've been trying to undermine the Department of Justice

and specifically Rod Rosenstein and Mueller by proxy. This week, Trump sided with the Republicans in the battle that's been brewing between these Republicans in the House and the Department of Justice since the Mueller investigation began, not on April 9th, sorry, since the Mueller investigation began,

which is, we're coming up on a year, by the way, it was in May. We're gonna have an anniversary show, basically. Yeah. We won year, well, we didn't start until October 30th. You're right. Yeah, yeah. When the first in Diamond Straw. Get away. So, anyway, on April 9th of this year, Meadows and Jordan sent a letter to the Department of Justice.

And by the way, Jim Jordan, Ohio's primaries next week, get him the fuck out. This guy's an asshole. Yeah. He's, he's a, I hate his face. He's got one of those punchable faces, like, like Spencer or Sean, or, um, not Skrillex. What's that? Skrillex. I guess Skrillex too. I guess Skrillex too. Anyway, they sent a letter to the DOJ, uh, demanding the fully unredacted four-page memo that we became aware of in the case that Manafort filed in DC to have the charges dismissed. We just talked Kimberly about it. Basically, that's the memo.

The thing they put out to the public about the Mueller investigation was that he can look into anything in the Trump-Russia probe and anything that arises from that investigation. Exactly. Then he put out this four-page memo. And there might be more. I feel like there might be more. Then he put out this four-page memo, and there might be more. I feel like there might be more, but he put out this four-page memo. Most of it was redacted, saying, you can look into these specific things and to man-affort. There could be a million other things in there, and we don't know, because again, it's

mostly redacted. So, they demanded to see the entire unredacted memo, or they can't do their job. And this week, Rosenstein, Rosenstein, I just keep thinking of young Frankenstein. Frankenstein. He refused to hand it over. He refused because it's part of an open and ongoing investigation. And because the House Republicans leaked more than Russian prostitutes, really. Actually, it was clear to most intelligent people that Meadows and Jordan were baiting Rosenstein

to say no, and that would give Trump a pretext to fire him. Nunez tried this with the FISA warrant justification. We talked about earlier, but Rosenstein let him read that with Gaudi in the room, and we all know what happened there. He didn't read it. In response to Rosenstein's refusal to hand over the DOJ MMO, Trump tweeted this. He said, quote, a rigged system.

They don't want to turn over documents to Congress. What are they afraid of? Why so much redacting? Why such unequal justice? He sounds like the doge meme. Such redacting, much justice. Much stable, very intelligent. And he says he goes on to say, at some point, I will have no choice but to use the powers

granted to the presidency and get involved. Yeah, he said that last week, right? That is, that's this week. That's a tweet this week. He also said it on Fox and France. He did, that's terrifying, by the way. This is a repeat of something he said, just like you said, Julie, so during his Fox News rant, when he said the Justice Department, quote, I try and stay away from, but at some point I won't.

This is a bone-chilling, fascist statement of dictatorial proportions. We have to remove this asshole before the shickets out of control. Even if just for his own sake, if not for hours, like, your assholes are fucking back. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm gonna say Mueller she wrote, we're a big fuck Trump. But if you are pro Trump and you happen to come across this clip, just vote him out for your own say. Just be pro impeachment so that he can vote for their own interests.

They never do. They never happen. They never will. Trump is their Obama. They're bought and paid for voters because they're uneducated. But they're real people. They are. They're real weird people.

I think that's fair for at least 50% of his base. Yeah, I have people that are like Family members that are we there are educated well, but that's just because honestly they're greedy fucks Yeah, and even so it's like old David if you don't want that tax break for themselves Yeah, if you want to come out of this like without a scave reputation Like just vote him out so that this can just like go away be on the right side of history Be on the right side of history But even if you don't want to, because some of them don't

care, just do it for your own reputation. Yeah. Like, I have love for those people still, because there's still people obviously get out like you can. Yeah, just get out like you can. But you're so misguided and you need to realize that your morals are just wrong. And we're already onto you. We have a whole podcast about you.

Just go away. Just go away and then we'll go away. Nice. No, we won't go away. No, we never will. away. No, we never Anyway, then after this whole thing happened a document leaked from the Republicans in the house with no names on it By the way threatening articles of impeachment impeachment to remove Rosenstein But then Rosenstein made this great public appearance and when asked about it, here's what he said They can't resist leaking their own drafts

The theater was just leaking their own drafts. I saw that draft, I don't know who wrote it, I just don't have anything to say about documents like that, but nobody has the courage to put their name on and that they leak in that way. There were people who have been making threats privately and publicly against me for quite some time. And I think they should understand by now that the Department of Justice is not going to be extorted. So that was from Wednesday. Then he made another public appearance on Friday at the Montgomery County Bar Association's meeting.

And he's not a public guy, but he's making all these public appearances. And I think it's to get a message out. He reiterated his point about the separation of powers. So he's pushing back hard, though House Republicans have decided to bring the articles of impeachment to the floor next week. All right, finally, we have to note that the New York Times published an article Wednesday saying a former federal law enforcement official said Mr. Rosenstein and top FBI officials have come to suspect that some lawmakers were using their oversight authority to gain intel about the Russia

investigation so they could share it with the White House. No! What's podcast has been saying that since the beginning of this podcast? It's conjecture, but we're right. We've been asked on multiple occasions if these Republicans can be punished for this abuse of power to obstruct justice. The thing is, we don't have a precedent for it. There was one other time when a lawmaker demanded records from the DOJ in the 1940s, but

when Attorney General Robert Jackson refused, who is Rosenstein's hero, by the way, Congress backed off because they understood the separation of powers. So we are in a completely new world and we are in new territory now and I'm unable to answer whether or not these Republican lawmakers can be prosecuted for demanding documents from Rosenstein and turning them over to the White House. All I can say is that I hope they can be charged with obstruction of justice. For each. We'll be right back.

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But are you ready for the fantasy and diamond league? Yes! Ha! All right, it began to worry me this week. Wondering what happens if Rosenstein is fired? Because it's starting to look like they're setting them up to be fired with these bullshit document demands. Joyce Vance said in an interview this week that Mueller would not have mentioned a subpoena

to Trump's lawyers unless it was cleared and approved by Rosenstein. So I was like, Mueller better issue that subpoena before Trump fires Rosenstein, right? But then I remembered the dinner. You guys remember when sessions and Rosenstein and Francisco, the Solicitor General and the third in line, he's the third in line at the DOJ, first in line to have oversight of the Mueller investigation, all went out to dinner in DC and allowed the press to take photos. Okay. Remember? Do you guys remember? And that was not just a casual dinner. That was a public statement of a united front.

And Rosenstein said in an interview this week that the DOJ will not be extorted as we played in an earlier clip, and that no one is above the law. So I am confident that if Trump fires Rosenstein, Francisco will continue oversight of the Mueller investigation unfettered until Trump replaces him, but that leaves just enough time for the solicitor general to approve Mueller dropping the sealed, man-afforded indictments and to subpoena the president before Sessions resigns, because Sessions promised he would resign if Rosenstein is fired. Exactly. And a new AG would be put in his place by Trump to stop the Mueller investigation, but by then it will be too late. It's so past water yet at that point.

So that's conjecture, but I'm right. Hell yeah. Oh, and also, add Michael Caputo, Michael Fora's Caputo, into the flip column. I'm taking him off of the undyided column, I'm putting it into the flipped column, along Michael Cohen. I think I think Cohen's going down. I think Cohen's going to flip. I think so. Chloe. We've never seen this truck. Not understand by pushing these people away. He's going to make them flip. Well, I think back to like my, my, my, I think he's trying to, I think he's trying to, like,

make the sorry interrupt you back. Trying to like make this public statement that he's an asshole so that everyone's on board with him. Exactly. But what else can you do when you're so caught up in a lie? All right, you guys. This week's sabotage is that Reuters reported that it may be very difficult for Giuliani to get security clearance because of his work with foreign clients. Oh, I'm all this. Including Qatar. Uh, God. it's so funny He's so I don't know how much security security clearance you are required to have to be on Trump's outside legal team But he's applying and but I don't think he's gonna get clearance that if he's gonna be folding napkins with Jared I'm gonna and the calligigraphy should probably be his. Yeah, I can't wait for Christianry start coming up in the in the news cycle again. It's gonna happen. It's only a matter of time.

It's it's it's gonna happen. There's this whole standoff shaping up where Trump's just gonna fire the DOJ and the DOJ is just gonna wait until a very last second when it has all the information that needs is just gonna start dropping and dieting. Because even if we don't have the wave we need, which it seems like we will, but let's say Russia interferes where people drop the ball and we don't have that blue wave we're predicting, Trump will still be president for three more years. So we're going to have this case for three more years. Oh, two, sorry. We've already put through two years dude.

We're doing okay. Right. You're doing okay. All right. Also, I have multiple sabotages, well, too. Uh, the Wall Street Journal reported today that Cohen actually took out an additional $774,000 in additional lines of credit in the 90 days leading up to the election. That's a lot.

Now, of this, or it seems like a lot, can, okay, remember when I, and I know it was conjecture, but I'm right, that he did travel Prague and that he did pay in cash because of plausible deniability. Russian bots to interfere in the election. Do you remember? Uh huh. Well, maybe that's where that money went. Yeah. Because it has to go somewhere.

Somebody said 1.2 million and I was like, that's close to 1.6 million. Sounds like an abortion. I've been watching this for a long time, but it's bad again. But it's not so much. Money has to be funneled somewhere because somebody wants that money and they want to spend it. The fact that Giuliani used the word funneled is already layering. I know.

Yeah, all of his language is like assuming it's mob language, right? Yeah, he knows better. I have a quick question for you, A.G. Yeah, yeah, go. So is that something those documents about that line of credit? Is that something that will be covered in the information they seized when they did the raid on him to know what it was used for, who they got it from? Yes, and if it has to do with Russia, they will probably hand it back to Mueller. Cool. That's again, conjecture, but I'm right. This is my new catchphrase. I love it.

I love puts and beans on it. But it's conjecture, but I'm right. My friends love the conjecture, but I'm right. They like it too. They love it. I enjoy it. Again, Dallas. The funny thing, the fact that you are very knowledgeable, of course, we're all flawed,

but most of the time, you're a percentage of correct conspiracy theories or you're like a raky master. Well, I'm also very, very, I love to be right. And I know that in these situations, I can be proven wrong. But you take pride in what you are right. But I'm not gonna go out on a limb and say something that I think is gonna happen

unless I'm pretty sure it's gonna. And that's why I love you. It limits intuition. Mixed with giant education. It's a good educated guess, yes. And I know people in the government, but we won't talk about that. It's a perfect start to get into that. Alright, you guys, let's get to questions and comments. This is quickly becoming one of my favorite sections of our podcast seriously and this is quickly becoming my favorite episode

Yeah, this is a good episode phone call from Kimberly. I can't wait to break that down with myself We got to do more with a phone calls. I love I like it too I actually reached out to Natasha Bertrand. I found out she follows us holding the Jolly my hero in in reporting She works for the Atlantic and she's incredible. She's a she's a pundit on a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a baller. She's big time. Oh, I love her so much. She fall. I sent her a message. I was like last night she did. I sent her a message. I was like I'd love to have you on the pod. What's your fee? Seriously? We'll see. We might have to do a kickstarter. Be prepared to get more money. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Be prepared to get more. Very Yeah, fuck yeah. Be prepared to get more money.

Get more money. No, she won't. Get more. We're so poor guys, I mean, come on. I know, fuck. Well, y'all are. I'm in my 40s. Yeah, but you were hard for that.

The 40s are the white privilege of life. Even then, you deserve more agey. We have money, we have connections. We have, oh, we have cats outside. We have to be very vocal. Very vocal. Oh, and I did open a window in here So if you hear some background wind yeah, I don't care if you're angry. Yeah, it's cuz my crack was quickly becoming a slip-in-slide That's my pain

Interesting interesting information. All right, let's get into this at Lakote says quote What is it with Rudy Giuliani has he gone around the bend, Jordan? Around the bend. I'm only 24, so I have to explain to me what that reference is, just kidding. Crazy, has he gone crazy? Absolutely. That's one of the lights on, but nobody's home. Yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm just kidding.

I think, yes, I don't think he's gone crazy. I think this is the exact kind of person Giuliani is. I think it's why him and Trump get along so well as he constantly talks about in any interview. He ever has about Trump is how good a friends they are. Absolutely. I think they speak the same language, which is crazy. Which is crazy.

He's just who he is. And Trump, if you want to call Trump crazy, I understand. But Trump is not crazy if you are his friend. Hey, you know what, Kanye? I don't want to hear about what you have to say. You're right. We're going to, you know, the stigma behind crazy is gonna end. Are you gonna let me finish?

Are you gonna let me finish? No, you know what? It's crazy or not, I don't know, but he's definitely diabolical and he's definitely behind at all. Yeah, he's not respected by people. In this day and age. Yeah, he's not that sneezing if you're not.

Your allergic to bullshit is what it is. Yeah, I have. Yes. I'm gonna high five you from across. Hell yeah. Oh, I'm sorry to high five you from across. Hell yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I was a kind of like, it's a spiritual high five. It was a fair thing.

It was a failure. Yeah, he's not respected by anybody. He's always been crazy. And I guess he's maintained high level jobs for a long time. But honestly, I don't think he's very well liked or respected. Do you realize that this episode is going to be so long we could split it up into five pieces

and become a daily podcast? Yeah. I would feel like I was robbing people with a spade. You know what, someday? That's not my idea. So here's what to do. Now, you know what, we gotta get the news out when it comes out, but here's what to do.

If you're really just tired, just listen to about 20 minutes a day every day. Yes, really? Get on the treadmill, do whatever, break it up. You need to do, have a glass of wine, whatever you need to do. Break it up. Yes.

I'm not going to not put out these episodes here. We hear every word. I have to. But it's a lot. It's a lot. It is. All right. At Seth Taylor says, what info do you think the FBI got from the Cohen call intercepts?

Do you think Giuliani knew about the surveillance from his FBI contacts? All right. First of all, we learned later in the week that Cohen's phones were not wiretapped. They were, it was a pen register. And do I think Giuliani knew about the surveillance from his FBI contacts? I don't think Giuliani's FBI contacts are working for the FBI anymore. Yeah, Rudy knows. I was just going to say he admitted on Sean Hannity that he doesn't know anything about the

Cohen deals. He's catching up. He wants to save them without facts. But check this out. Juliani had contacts in the FBI Newark Field Office in the election and that's how that whole thing got out about the combie or the Hillary Clinton email and the Weiner laptop. I don't think he has those contacts anymore. I think they have been removed from the FBI. Yeah. Yeah. That is an investigation that is under seal. And that's conjecture. But I'm married. Uh, Mary Up Church writes quote, how does everyone's, I left Mary to burrito. She's the burrito. They were so good, Mary. Yes, we ate them all very quickly, like in short

order. Yeah. She writes, how does everyone stay sane? I'm getting exhausted by the cycle of news heating up and then nothing coming of it. I know, I know Mueller is working on it and there's lots going on behind the scenes and I'm glad there are people out there like MSW who are tirelessly pursuing the truth and justice

and I'm thankful for that because sometimes I just can't even. By the way, if he fires Mueller or someone gives him a Nobel Peace Prize, I will lose my mind. Yeah, yeah, good point. I know that waiting for this thing to wrap up is pretty frustrating. It's like waiting for the beat to drop in an EDM song or a dubstep song in a club. I'm gonna go for it. I'm gonna go for it.

Indightments. Okay. That's funny. Nick McLaren says MSW is part of how he stays sane and we give him a post to hang on to in the whirlwind. That's very nice. It reminds me of a little twister, you know, when they find a little thing.

Yeah. And they're passed away, like Wilson. Oh, Wilson. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Evadela Rosas says, the humor infused with the facts helps me maintain what's left of my mental health. I want it to come to an end, but I have to admit,

I will miss A.G. Jolisa and Jordan. And I hope they'll come up with a new podcast to entertain us Look, we aren't stopping this Mueller train is not so long. No, we're gonna go forever as long as we can It's yeah forever as long as we can I Like that tagline. Yeah, Mueller. She wrote forever as long as we can Does he Ralph says I don't stay sane. I lost my mind a month ago, but Mueller she wrote helps Oh Thank you, and I'm so sane. I lost my mind a month ago, but M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M I totally get that what's really funny is Michael McCann is in our opening sequence To quote so it's true you are a communist. That's right. That's Michael McCann good work

Mm-hmm. I'm gonna go home and sleep with my wife. Yeah, which which mole right was that? What's their name? Oh? That was at Jordan T Walker Jorin T Walker. Good. It's active. Good. Jordan. It could be Jordan twacker. Twacker. Hey Twacker. Doacker, A. Jordan Twacker. Do you twerk Jordan? All right, at HP Down Unda, it's computer company in the Australia. HP Down Unda, UNDA, so it's not the hard R. Okay.

Okay, so you know, you'll appreciate that. Quote, what do you make of the fact that 49 questions did not include anything on money laundering? Do you think Mueller is handing that off to another prosecutor, so he's not accused of going beyond his remit? This is a really great question. I have a couple theories about this. First of all, I think the reason that

there was no questions in money laundering and succulose 49 questions is because he didn't want to upset Trump. Yeah. He knew that if he put money laundering questions in thereose 49 questions is because he didn't want to upset Trump. Yeah. He knew that if he put money laundering questions in there, that Trump would be like, if that guy in the A and fire the shutout of Mueller, yeah, he just goes Seculose. He'd go full nun bird. But also, this is interesting.

Do you think Mueller is handing that off to other prosecutors? No. And here's why it's tied into the Russian investigation just like when we just talked Kimberly. And we talked about why didn't they hand off the Manafort money laundering and tax evasion to a US attorney. It's because it's tied into the Russian investigation. There's Russian collusion there. That's if there wasn't, they would have handed it off. Yeah, they would have the heads up. They would have handed it off. All right at Liz Stewart

Comma D so C O M E D. Okay, so it looks like at Liz Stewart Comed. Yeah, yeah or come D Okay Wants to know if if AG Schneiderman is making any headway in closing the double Je jeopardy loophole in New York I don't know I have I looked it up haven't heard anything yet. At nicks rocks asks quote when the Dems retake the house will the Republicans still be able to obstruct even though they'll be the minority I'm really worried I hate them. Yeah I mean I understand where you're coming from it's rough what do you think a g? Well here's a thing where you're coming from. It's rough. What do you think, AG? Well, here's a thing.

When you're the majority in these committees, you get what you need. You're able to dictate what subpoenas are done and what investigations are done. You can Mitch McConnell in. Now, what I don't know is that if you have, like let's say he fires Rosenstein and sessions resigns because of it And you have a brand new AG who just refuses to cooperate with anything the Democrats do I don't know

Right that becomes an issue where where you know you're the head you're It's going to be Adam Schiff right you're the head of the the House Intelligence Committee And you're like all right from now on here's what the fuck we're doing. And then he starts requesting ship from the Department of Justice and the head of the Department of Justice, the new AG or the DAG or whoever Trump puts in place. If it's not Noel Francisco, God stay in there Noel. Yeah, please.

Could just be like, no. So it really depends. We've never, this is territory we've never been in. So, okay, so at poop weasel wants to know, gotta love poop weasel. I really think I'm just reading their questions because this poop weasel wants to know how many more weeks does Muller wait before he subpoena's trump in the grand, uh, to talk to the grand jury. And if trump makes a move to fire sessions or residence dine, does does Mueller immediately serve him with a subpoena

and does Mueller file more indictments? All right, so this is a multi-faceted question. First part is how many more weeks does Mueller wait before he subpoena's Trump? I don't think it's gonna be long. If Mueller actually is, I'm sorry, if Trump is actually taking the stance that I think he's taking,

which is to completely defy everything, it'll be within six weeks. He said it himself, right? He's giving us 60-day notice before he thinks. Well, that's the fling. That's separate. Okay. Good point. No, so what I think is, I think he is going to give them another six weeks. And unless Trump blatantly denies, like it says, I'm not going to talk to you. Then I think whenever that happens, he will. Good point. In fact, subpoena Trump. Yeah.

To come and talk to the grand jury, the second part of that is if Trump makes a move to fire sessions or Rosenstein, does Mueller immediately serve him with a subpoena? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I mean, does Mueller immediately serve him with a subpoena? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I agree. Does Mueller file more indictments? Well, file more or release more? There's several sealed indictments on the docket. I think they might be dropped at that point. Yeah.

But I also think, and I think we've said this in a little earlier is that the solicitor general, no Alphrancisco, will take over and make that happen. So at Clint Jenkins, 85, said, didn't realize you had a PhD, would be good to know your guys' backgrounds. It's a good point though, CJ makes a very good point. All right, so I have a PhD, I'm a veteran,

I'm 44 years old. I work for the government, I'm not going to tell you which department. I have my PhD is in health and Administration. I'm a comedian. I've been doing it for 10 years. I am a headliner and a feature. So I was in the documentary, the invisible war about rape in the military. You can check that out. Other than that, I don't know, just AG. You just AG and Jordan give us your little Maya, the original gangster. That's my favorite. My ex-girlfriend, I'm going through a break up, but she lost her mind when she saw that. She was like, wait, A-regional gangster did someone say that?

That's the great and break up with you because we talk about her on the pod. Right, she did not. She actually, she wants me to let you know that she thinks you're a genius. She's like, did you tell A-G that I think she's a genius yet? And I'm like, no, I haven't found a way to hide. I think she's an amazing person to you.

Well, thank you. And I'm sorry about you. She's a genius yet and I'm like no I haven't found I think she's an amazing person to you. I'm sorry about You yeah, it does I'm single mullah rights if you're interested. Oh, hey So these are dope as fuck yeah Bob Mueller. What's up? She's not sorry to object about you. She's smart. She's funny Comey I'll cast this. Comey if Patrice ever abandoned you. Thank you very much. Jordan who are you? Yes, I am Jordan. I. The end.

Julie said, who are you? No, I'm sorry, continue. Yeah, let's see. OK, Gropanolus Vegas, my dad's an attorney. I went to UC San Diego. I got a degree in political theory, which is basically just political philosophy. And I then, I was really involved in activism.

I lobbied for students in this organization called UCSA. UC Student Association. Yeah. And I was super into Occupy. That was when I got, I was also sleeping in tents for a large person that poured my freshman here. Yeah, yeah. I learned a lot about like lateral leadership

versus vertical leadership and the inefficiency is a both and what that sort of turns into. If I were going to talk about who you are, here's what I would say. As a comic and a co-host, Jordan brings a stupe observation with a healthy dose of wit. Her dry often tongue-in-cheek contributions are balanced by her solid grasp of the subject matter. In addition to being a successful comedian, she's also an author or performer, and all around awesome human being. Look for her at the comedy store, the Madhouse, and anywhere major comedy is for sale. Thank you so much, A.G. I wrote that for you, didn't I?

It's beautiful. It's so beautiful. And it's completely true. And I love your personality. You know what's really interesting is when I first asked you to be on this podcast, when I first decided I have to do a podcast and I asked you and you did to you, I knew about your comedy and I knew about your intelligence

and wit, but what I didn't know is that you were a poly major. Yeah, like hardcore. Yeah, yeah. I really wanted to go. I still think about if comedy doesn't work out getting my PhD in philosophy or political theory and being a professor or really into that. Running for office. I used to want to do that and then I did student government and saw a little bit about bureaucracy and and I was like I don't know if I have it in me to do this but the bureaucracy is tough. Yeah. Alright Julie, so tell us about yourself.

Well my experience as far as schooling is I dropped out multiple times attempting political science as a degree but what I learned from like hands on on the street like Jordan mentioned with Occupy I was involved with the San Diego branch. So the Wall Street version was like the big deal, but I was so engulfed in the whole idea of income and equality as a super poor person. Then I would hang out at the meetings in San Diego every week. I was involved with like the finance committee, so they would like give me the Occupy donations to have overnight.

Yeah, but I was like followed by people. Oh, that. Oh, God. He was having a literal cash on it. Yeah, I literally had cash in my backpack. And I remember thinking that some people in the Occupy scope were just moochers. They really were. So I wanted to do something that was political, but also very effective and not infiltrated by fakes.

And that's why I love what we're doing now, because even though Occupy was like 2013, 2014-ish, 2016-ish, I feel like Molo Shirod is the first time that I've ever done something that was effective and also just pure. It's like we're all in perfect human beings, but we're our intentioners here. Why are you dragging me in here?

You're totally right. AG is the perfection of the group. And yes, I feel like I'm just learning a lot. I have so much to learn, and I'm just so floored at it being a part of this. So yeah, my experience is protesting, but my interest is so aligned with what we do, and I'm just learning every week.

Well, my main reason for bringing you into this is your spirit and your dedication to activism. And I knew you're so young and I knew you had a lot to learn. I know you still have a lot to learn. I actually have a lot to learn. You have taught me some things as a matter of fact. And that is the benefit of bringing in this kind of diversity. I think my bio or I think the bio you put in is she is performed at the World Series of Comedy, Burbank Comedy Festival, OC Pride, and San Diego Pride. You've also been featured in Buzzfeed, rooftop, Huffington Post, SD Voice and Viewpoint, Uptown News, and you can be seen performing regularly.

Thank you. All right, so Nicholas Chat asked, what's the best advice you've ever heard? Interesting. Okay, I think we've talked about this before. I would say, if you have a problem in your own personal life, you have to name it to tame it. So I think that's my favorite quote.

Name it to tame it. You gotta address your problems, yeah. Jordan, what's your best advice ever? I gotta be honest, my best advice was given to me when I went into touring. I used to be touring in the music industry and it was to shut up when you're new to a place. And that sounds like harsh, but it was such good advice for me. Yeah, be good advice for next to learn, listen, think, and then when you're at a point where you have your bearings and you're actually at a place to speak, because words are, and then when you're at a point where you have your bearings and

you're actually at a place to speak, because words are powerful, then speak. Yes. Very good point. My best advice was from my dad and it was an old Cherokee proverb that says, when you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life in such a way so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice. Oh my God. Wow. That's beautiful. Daddy, you said told you that.

My dad sure that sure keep proverb with me. Oh my goodness. And I live my life every day to do that because my my father passed away when I was 16. All I and I'm so sorry about that. All I want is that when I die which isn't evident above all things even before the Mueller investigation will be over we're gonna die. You're gonna do a five minute bringer. Yeah.

I try my best. I just want to believe that more people were left off better than when I was born. Yeah. When you die the world cries and you rejoice. That's what I want immediately. What I want. Yeah. And that's the best advice I ever got. All right, so thank you for that.

Oh, and you also asked, and if you could pick up one new entertainment skill, what would it be? Ooh, I would sing. I'd be a better singer. Banjo. Banjo. Vocals.

What about you, Jordan? God. Entertainment skill. Because you can a better singer. Banjo. Banjo. Banjo. Vocals. What about you, Jordan? God. Entertainment skill. Because you can already do a lot of things. You're already breaking the name. I'm a shitty actor. I was kidding.

I was kidding. I was kidding. I mean, client to say mime. Ooh. Are you fucking kidding me? I fucking hate mimes. Fuck mimes. They just express so much with no words.

It's literally everyone go out and fuck mimes. They can't so much with no words. It's literally, everyone go out and fuck minds. They can't say no. That's right. Yeah, you can't say no. You can't say no for their arms and a cross. All line sex is consensual. OK, I'm sorry.

While it is true, really, mine, come on. Yeah, OK, you lie like a rug. We're comedians. Oh, OK, I'll say this is good. Sounds super lame but but I would love to be able to dance on point I dance baller Well on point shoes I don't know going up, but I never did point a lot of you don't know this but Jordan is an actual professional Gymnast like legitimate back in the way. I've seen your picture story.

Have you? Is there any way that you can send in the next newsletter? Your balance beam. Sure. Please. Okay, so if you're not a patron, you are sorely missing out because. You want to see Jordan in the most impressive position. Jordan is going to life.

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It's not a joke. It's not a joke. It's a shit. And if you want to be part of that, you have to join it. That's so funny. Muller, she wrote as a subscriber. Just $1. It's all you need.

Just $1 to see Jordan do that. And you know what? Do it for $1. And then quit if you want. I'm going to show you two years to the next Olympics. And I'm going to go for free then. I'm much better. Excellent.

All right. At Sister Reliable wants to know, if there are any updates on the rumors that the $1.6 million payoff for an abortion was Trump and not broidy. Nope. Nope. No updates. Just the theory. Yeah, Julie said, well, no, she's the broidy with her. I'll let you know. Ashley Judd Arrington did Ashley Judd get married again? She says this is amazing. She says, quote, in Mormon folklore, there is a tale that someday the Constitution will be hanging by a thread.

And a Mormon will save the country from ruin. It's called the White Horse Prophecy. And every time A.G. mentions the potential of Romney being elected and leading a cohort of Republican senators to vote with the Democrats to remove Trump. I think damn it Does AG even know about the white horse prophecy? Dude, that's a gotta be did you know about that? No, I've never heard of it But it makes complete sense. Oh my god. Is it elaborate Joseph Smith and the Romney nine?

Okay, so you know about my whole theory about of course Well apparently the goddamn Mormons have a prophecy. They have a theory about this. About the fucking Mormons saving the Constitution. That's why they're here, not because of the diapers. They're here because they're gonna save us. And here's what's extra weird. You guys ready for extra weird?

In 2006. In 2006, I released an album called profit flower No way not profit money profit Coincidence The white horse prophecy is real you guys I believe it does it on me a profit. Am I a profit? No I was actually protesting against Romney and I feel kind of bad because yeah, I think he might start a cult We might you yeah You were protesting against Romney when he's running against Obama, but I feel bad because Romney had great points. Oh, yeah, different. Well the Russia thing. He was great in health care for Massachusetts

Moreso than a lot of them so bomb a care. Yeah, yeah exactly. Yeah, if Romney comes in and saves the GOP Fuck it. Fine. I'm down. I said I'll say I'll have five in Mormon Okay, and here's the great thing moral subject Mormons taught me how to play piano really I all my piano lessons care piano I'm on everything Okay, I like magic So fun toy I love it. Blame Canada Yeah, I'm still most dumb dumb dumb dumb. Yeah, no, it's it's but seriously the white horse prophet It's so fun to play in Canada. You're so multi-dum dum dum dum dum.

Yeah, no, it's it's but seriously the white horse prophecy. It's real. It could come true. The Constitution is hanging in the back. We need it. We need something. We might be relying on Mitt Romney and I'm so sorry because I think there are a lot of people who follow us that are in our closed Facebook group that are

X Mormons that are like, yeah, do it, A.G. No, I got it, I got it. We got to do it for the right reasons. We can leave behind the parts that don't make sense. We need Ron need to represent some good. He's not all bad. The white horse prophecy is real. It's real.

It's Joseph Smith, maybe. Man, he's reticulated. That's amazing. I'm cool with it. I'm real. Joseph Smith, maybe, man. He's ridiculous. That's amazing. I'm cool with it. I'm down. All right, you guys, that's been our show. Holy shit. Holy shit.

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