Jack - Jesse Egan (Tonight in San Diego)

Episode Date: December 5, 2017

This week, we’re joined by fellow comedian and host of Tonight In San Diego, Jesse Egan! We discuss Trump/Russia news from the past week, answer listener questions, and start a new game for our ston...er listeners! Enjoy! 

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Starting point is 00:01:52 So to be clear, Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I didn't have and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for? I have nothing to do with Putin.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So it is political. You're a communist! No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Welcome to Mueller she wrote, I'm AG. I go by AG because I work for the federal government and Hatch Act bars me from associating my name and my title with anything political that I do. Meanwhile I'm using a pseudonym and Trump has an online presidential merchandise site, but whatever, you know, ethics, AG1, Trump 0. I almost
Starting point is 00:03:12 just said my name. That was pretty funny. All right, we're gonna start with just the facts you guys. Oh, there are so many this week. I even wrote in my notes as I was taking them, because I basically, I just write notes all week, as news comes out, and it says in my notes in all caps, oh my god, I thought it was going to be a slow news week. We ended our last podcast with, I don't think much is going to happen. It's going to be a sleepy week, and, you know, to the next week we'll probably talk about the making of an American Nazi.
Starting point is 00:03:44 We've been putting it off for episode. Well, plenty of time. Oh my gosh, no, we don't. Here we go. On Sunday of this week, Conjures stepped down. John Conjure stepped down as the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee. That's not directly related to the Russia probe, but the House Judiciary Committee is, and I think it's good that we don't have anything corrupt going on in the House Judiciary
Starting point is 00:04:11 Committee. So, he stepped down Tuesday, big news day. Trump says the Mueller investigation should be over by Christmas. He says, it's wrapping up. Nothing else really going on. It's going gonna be over by the end of the year. And there's some inside AIDS, White House AIDS that say if it doesn't wrap up soon, he's going to flip his lid. He's going like come on him. Like any more than he or he is. Yeah, I was like, hmm, okay, Trump on him. You think he's going to be bad shit, crazy. Yeah, you think that.
Starting point is 00:04:47 What the hell? It scares me. Also, it was discovered that Eric Prince, a Trump donor in Onvoy, head of Blackwater, former head of Blackwater, because they got in trouble. And brother Betsy DeVos had a secret meeting in the Seychelles Islands with the head of the Russian sovereign wealth fund, which is a sanctioned entity, by the way. It's on the sanctions list here, by the Treasury Department of Treasury, which means no one in the world will deal with them.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And apparently it was a meeting to set up a back-channel communication – sorry, a communications back-channel between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. There were other things that went on in that meeting, Jordan's gonna go over that today. Interestingly, Prince said it was just business. We weren't talking about anything important to business, but you aren't allowed to do business with a sanctioned fund.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So I'm not sure, like, cap business, what sort of business were they talking about? I don't know what cat business is. I'm not sure. Cat business. Business. Mind your business. Cat business.
Starting point is 00:05:55 On Wednesday, Mueller postponed Michael Flynn's grand jury testimony, and I wrote down, this could indicate a plea deal. Diane Feinstein, Dyefai, as we like to call him, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee is asking for documents from Carter Page, William Ferris, Sam Clovis, and JD Gordon. She lobbied Chuck Grassley to do so. He's the head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, but he wouldn't do it. So she went around him.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Right. And these, apparently, that's the fact. The conjecture here is that the docs may have been about an early deliverable to the Russians, namely the change in the GOP platform at the RNC, easing the language on Ukraine, Not sanctions, but the Ukraine. Also Roger Stone told the House Intel Committee that his WikiLeaks liaison was Randy Kradeko. Kradeko has now been subpoenaed to testify in mid-December. Mid-December, a lot of shit's going down in mid-December. Donald Trump, Jr.
Starting point is 00:07:05 will meet with the House Intelligence Committee next week. We'll talk about that when he does. It was reported that Kushner spoke with Mueller in November regarding Flynn. That's what CNN reported. New York Times said, no, no, no, no. The meeting wasn't about Flynn. It was about the meeting between Kushner Flynn and Kisleyak to set up the backdoor communications channel. There's a lot of backdoor stuff. Yeah. Go on on.
Starting point is 00:07:37 We have the Seychelles meeting with the hedge fund, the Russian hedge fund guy. We have the Kushner Flynn Kisleyak meeting to set up the backdoor channel. We have the illusion to backdoor overture in the Kushner emails. It's just all sorts of backdoors. It's kind of dirty.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Mm-hmm. Thursday, sessions and Eric Prince testified behind closed doors with the House Intelligence Committee. And Jordan's going to be going over that. The New York Times reports that Trump pressured multiple senators to drop the Russian investigation, Republican senators. Starting with Richard Burr of North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:08:19 he's the head of the Senate Intel Committee. And he called Burr to pressure him, and then when Burr wouldn't respond, he met with, I think, six other senators, either by phone call or in person. And this was in August, right around the time Congress was passing the new Russia sanctions. And they were trying to introduce a bill
Starting point is 00:08:41 to take away the President's ability to fire special counsel. He's calling up a bunch of Republican senators who have now come forward to say this happened and their characterization of the meetings was that he was angry and insistent and sorta scary with his threats to shut Dino shut down this investigation and so he pressured Burr and then he told other senators to pressure Burr to get him to stop.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So that's another, you know, chalk another tick mark up on the side of, you know, obstruction. Right. Congressman Schiff told reporters that sessions refuse to answer key questions during his testimony. And I'm sure that you'll go over that Jordan. That was really interesting and kind of illegal. So it's going to be fun to talk about. Man of Fort negotiated a bail agreement. He gets to take off his ankle bracelet,
Starting point is 00:09:37 but he had to put up like $10 million in real estate. $15 million. $15 million. He had really like four properties including the one he was residing in. Yeah. interesting. Yeah, for collateral. Like, and he can feel free to move about the country. Like he can go around the United States, but he can't leave. He had to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:55 He's still in turn of his passport. Wow. But he doesn't have to wear his little ankle bracelet anymore. I'm kind of bummed. Wow. I thought that was funny. Like just, man, just, man of four. Yeah. I thought that was funny. Just, man, a fork. I like to be creative in terms of the rules.
Starting point is 00:10:12 The budget for the Mueller investigation is going to be released next week, which can only be bad news because they're just going to grab onto that and say, it's too much. However much it is, it's going to be too much money. It's got to be like one and a half golf trips. Oh, yeah. They should totally put it in golf trips. Right, yeah. It's a new, it's a new, it's like 18 holes.
Starting point is 00:10:34 It's a new unit of measurement. Yeah. How many golf trips does this cost? Three full, it's a golf trip. Yeah. It's what the Mueller investigation is costing. Any guesses? You guys want to make any guesses is to how much the Mueller investigation? I'm just thinking that you know, I don't know anything about this so I'm just gonna guess like prices right? It's like randomly. I'm gonna say $2 million a year.
Starting point is 00:11:03 $2 million if you think they speak down One dollar It's not without it's not could come the closest without going over Probably everything associated with it. Yeah, she's got no idea how much these things cost, right? Yeah, and this is for the entirety of the year. Just so far, when it's cost, yeah. I would say more than two million, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Well, by the time it's over, maybe like eight million. Oh, by the time it's over, we don't know how long that's going to be. Yeah, we're hopeful by the end of next year or mid next year, right? What do you mean? That's a whole different guy. I would say yeah. Yeah, I don't know if they're projecting what it's going to cost or what it has cost to. So we have no information on that, like just publicly, like no one really? Not yet. It's coming out next week.
Starting point is 00:12:03 So I think it's probably gonna be like $26 million. Oh, I think it's gonna be high That's a so far 26 million. Yeah, yeah, and and I mean, you know I'm betting no matter what it's budget too high right? Yeah, that's basically what they were saying on MSNBC. She was like, if it's 96 cents, who's gonna be like, look at this waste of 96 cents. So, I'm kinda glad that there was an indictment this week,
Starting point is 00:12:42 because it's kind of justifying. Yeah, it's costs a lot of money, but look what we found out. Yeah, they're coming now. We know that. FBI director Ray, WRAY, revealed during his testimony on Capitol Hill today that he has created a multi-agency international task force to combat foreign influence. It's kind of a big fucking deal. There was no other information given about that, by the way. And Rod Rosenstein is scheduled to testify to Congress in an open session on December 13th.
Starting point is 00:13:15 He's the deputy attorney general. He's the one in charge of the Department of Justice as far as Russia is concerned, because session isn't allowed. He's a bit of a bad boy. Yeah. Which brings us to Friday. Flynn pleads guilty to one count of lying to the FBI about his Russia contacts. That was a big, it's a big one. A big new story. And I will go in a little in depth in a bit. And also Senator Blumenthal issued a letter to Mike Pence all about Flynn's Marshall plan the ghoul and kidnapping the turkey guy Right
Starting point is 00:13:48 And if he knew there was ties to Russia So Trump's in on the game or our pencils and on the game know too We learned who KT McFarland is she's the X deputy national security advisor That's the second in command to Flynn. And she was at Mar-a-Lago when she had conversations about sanctions with Flynn. Okay. And Saturday, just today, the New York Times released emails about sanctions on December 29, KT McFarland wrote an email to a colleague saying that the
Starting point is 00:14:26 sanctions against Russia that had just been announced by Obama in retaliation for Russian election meddling were just to discredit Trump's victory, and the sanctions would make it much harder to ease tensions with Russia, quote, which has just thrown the USA election to him, unquote. So, whether it had to joke or not, that's a really dumb thing to put into an email to somebody. Talk about it. And we also learned Kushner that told Flynn to reach out to Russia.
Starting point is 00:14:57 So this is two people now. So Trump's, no, he's a rogue acting alone. Volunteer. Maverick rogue. I'm kidding. Can't say that, yeah. Yeah, no, he really wasn't. Or at least that's what it appears.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I don't want to say that that's for sure. So, now let's talk about this week's indictments. We had one. We've had one now. Really? Mike Flynn. Yeah, well indictment is charged. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 00:15:29 He pled guilty. Got it. Uh, and accepted a plea deal. Yes. Uh, which I should say is a theory that he accepted a plea deal, but he, but it did come out the documents that, I mean, you know what, it's a fact. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:43 In the time, let me just ask you this. So it wasn't like that the Trump administration said they wouldn't pay for Flynn's legal bills anymore, or they weren't going to pay for his legal expenses, basically. Cops said that last week. OK. Yeah. That happened.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And then the legal team said they couldn't communicate with the Trump legal people. And then this. And then, well, and then this. And then well and then Mueller postponed the Flynn was supposed to testify to the grand jury and he postponed that and then yeah and that's where we're at. So I am let's see let's let's let's get into Flynn really quick. I had to just open up my photos because I have timelines in there. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:16:26 When you forget which photo you were looking at last, it can often be something really hilarious. And I wish you know what, I'll post it on our Twitter account. Maybe, yeah. It's really fucking funny. OK. Aside from that, let's take a look at the timeline. And let me make sure I've got this correct.
Starting point is 00:16:45 In the summer of 2015, Flynn first meets Trump. In December of 2015, Flynn took a paid trip to Russia and appeared at a gala for RT. That's a Russian news organization. November 18, 2016, President-elect, he just been elected, Trump names Flynninus' national security adviser. And December 29th of 2016, the Obama administration unveiled sanctions against Russia for election-related hacking.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And on that same day, Flin speaks to a Russian ambassador, Sergei Kislyak, or Sergei, by phone. He calls him up. Sometime after December 30th, the FBI reviews Intercepts and finds the Flynn Kislyak conversation. How Flynn did not know as a 33 year general and a national security advisor
Starting point is 00:17:39 that his phone call with the Russian ambassador wasn't being recorded, I will never fucking understand. He was a climate citizen. Maybe that's why he wasn't four-star. There's only three-star. Yeah, yeah. No. No.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Fuck you, you can't have a four-star. You're stupid. Well, didn't Obama fire him and say, you know, recommend not hiring him? Exactly. Uh, yeah, January 13th. Trump Spokesman, Sean Spicer says Flynn did not discuss sanctions with the ambassador. I think that's coming up. That's why I cut you off. Yeah, uh, both, um, Sally Sally Yates who was the acting attorney general. I miss her. I know.
Starting point is 00:18:12 She was so great. And Obama said he's compromised too. He's a guy's no good. Yeah. He's gone. Uh-huh. January 20th, my birthday. The FBI questions Flynn about his called the ambassador. On February 9th, the Washington Post reports that Flynn, according to current and former
Starting point is 00:18:29 U.S. officials, did discuss sanctions with the Russian ambassador. On February 13th, Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway tells NBC News that Flynn has the full confidence of the president and on February 14th that a press briefing Spicer says Trump asked Flynn to resign because of an erosion of trust. Not because any laws were broken. Oh, we have more here. December 22nd, Flynn and Ambassador Kisley-Ok discuss UNSC vote. And then on December 29th Flynn and Kisley-Ak talk about sanctions on January 20th, Flynn is sworn in.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Okay, we're going backwards in the timeline. But it was here it is. It was on January 26th, Sally Yates warns the White House that Flynn was compromised. And that's when he actually stepped down, right? Or was he really tired? No, he wasn't fired until like three weeks later. January 27th, Trump does not fire Flynn, but asks Comey for a loyalty pledge the night after that.
Starting point is 00:19:36 He brings Comey in and says, hey buddy. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I can't understand what he was about. Largely? Oh, he's so dreamy. Comey's dreamy. I can't wait. I'm just wondering what's about largely. Oh, he's so dreamy. Comey's dreamy. I got a weird... I got a weird crush on Comet.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Comet. Comet. Comet. Comet McQueen. You were the last podcast. I'm just saying that only come here. Bram, to Cuper. On January 30th, Trump fires Yates for not defending the travel ban.
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Starting point is 00:20:25 It seems like it has been reported yet or like back up by Dr. Peter. Yes. But I think that's what we're trending towards for sure. And two days after that, Trump said in a news conference he did not direct Flynn to discuss sanctions with Kisley Act. But oddly enough, Kushner House and KT McFarland House, and those are people pretty high up in the Trump orbit. And then you've got people like Prince, Eric Prince, who just are discussing, discussing, discussing sanctions with Russia. It's pretty astounding. And then Mike, I think what Flynn said,
Starting point is 00:21:12 he made a statement. He said, on or about December 22, 2016, a very senior member of the presidential transition team directed Flynn to contact officials from foreign governments, including Russia, to learn where each government stood, and to influence those governments to delay or defeat the resolution. That's one of the things he said. And then he also said, as far as his arrest goes, he said, after over 33 years of military service to our country, including nearly five years in combat, away from my family, and then my decision to continue to serve the United States, it has been extraordinarily painful to endure these many months of false accusations of quote unquote tre I have ever done and stood for, but I recognize that the actions I acknowledge in court today were wrong and through my faith in God, bring it home.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I'm working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's office reflected decision I made in the best interest of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions. And God bless the United States of Turkey here in Ukraine, or else you're sorry for right now. He started out so strong and then he's like, I did not do anything wrong, but I did and I'm sorry. Yeah, so... I guess it's something. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I guess it's something.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah. And then there's the seven guys. I wanted to talk about this with you guys. The seven dudes that Trump tried to get to stop investigating, aside from trying to get Komi to stop doing it, and sessions to stop doing it. Yeah, they're not a little bit. Yeah, so there was Senator Richard Burr. Um, other way, no one sounds more Republican than that name.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, I'm sure. Richard Burr. No one looks... Senator Richard Burr. No one looks more... Can I look at it? It looks more, uh, Republic and then Roy Blunt, look at that guy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I know, he's creepy. Roy Blunt, that's like, it looks like he's playing a human suit. He, he, he, he does. He kind of looks like that guy from Men in Black. There he goes. Senator McConnell, Turtleface, Mike Rogers. He's the NSA director, Dan Coates, Director of National Intel, Mike Pompeo, CIA director, who might be the new secretary of state of Tillerson Quits, and Komi.
Starting point is 00:23:42 So those are people that Trump tried to influence. And they all come on the record to say this. Yeah, wow. Yeah, it's crazy. But there's nothing to see here. Right, no loyalty for Trump. Oh my god, it's ridiculous. And then did you guys see Komi's tweet? Yeah, they're on shade a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yeah. They're a biblical tweet. Oh yeah, that's pretty good. He went biblical on his asses. Yeah, they're on shade a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what he went. He went biblical on his ass. He said, but just this roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever flowing stream. It's kind of big. No, he's from Alabama.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And he posted a picture. He posted this picture of like a stream. He had Instagram. He must have been waiting for this. Amos 524. It reminded me of the fucking Andy Dufrein Exodus and the house righteousness would come it soon or whatever the fuck at the end of Shazza redemption. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Tell me he's just been raking his leaves in Virginia composing that tweet the whole time. I know, I'm looking at a little smiley face. I know, just picture on Twitter and he's like, is it went from just his serious picture now? He's all, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cute. I don't know if he did that in conjunction with that, but that's fine. Daniel Mann, seriously, this must be so satisfying for him. Oh, it's gotta be. Because he was so like humiliated at first, right? I remember him just being like this was just Trump was talking off like so much shit. Yeah. Yeah. Like saying his bad at his job. Yeah. Just defaming him. Totally. Yeah, it was it was awful. It has to be. Yeah. Oh, and one of their cool thing came out in the Flynn papers.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Kissley, I, apparently told Flynn that Russia would not retaliate to sanctions, Obama sanctions. Before, and this is where the Logan Act, I guess, what everybody's talking about might apply. If you're a citizen in the United States, you can't act on behalf of the United States to a foreign government.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And this is before Trump was put in office. This was, I think it was in December, when Obama put these sanctions on Russia for meddling in the election, Kisly, I apparently told Flynn, Russia would not retaliate, will be cool basically, because you told us that you'd reconsider sanctions.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Mm-hmm. That is quid pro quo. That is exactly it, and they've intercepted that and I don't know about you guys but Flynn is gonna have some really major stuff to say. He's got to have more than yeah just talking about Kushner. Because it wouldn't be enough right from Mueller to give him that flea deal I think. Well somebody made a really good point in some of the reporting I was watching this week to keep him around after he had been fired by Obama as the what was he the DIA and what was his what was his title director of the intelligence agency.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I didn't know that yeah I just knew he worked in the administration. And he got fired. And then he warned Trump, and then Sally Yates warned Trump. And oh, by the way, right, when basically, remember when I talked about the journalists who put in the FOIA request in 2015 to find out why Flynn was fired from his job? It turns out that he was, they still haven't been able to get an answer on that because you can't put a FOIA request in an ongoing investigation. But when Flynn
Starting point is 00:27:12 was working under Obama, he had put out this report that every government agency needs to stop using Kaspersky software because it's a tool used by Russian intelligence to gather intel. Okay. Oddly, his branch was never using it. The DOD didn't use it at all. Then when he got fired, he immediately started getting money from Kaspersky, which is a Russian company. Like I said, they are considered to be a Russian spy tool.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It's a word sounds a lot like conspiracy. A Russian accent. Yeah, it's a Kaspersky theory. We have controls. But yeah, so he starts getting money from them and working for them. And that's weird. That that's just bad, shit weird. And then, like I said, he meets Trump, he gets brought on board, and then he gets warned.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Trump gets warned twice about this guy, and he still doesn't fire him. And then when he doesn't fire him, he lets him resign, and sticks up for him and tells Komi. He goes, it tells an FBI director to stop investigating, like risk-substruction of justice to protect this dude. So why was he saying that important to the Trump administration?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. What the fuck was he doing? And now he's tweeting that he knew he was a liar and that he had lied to. Yeah. And the FBI. That was gonna be my sabotage this week that he had lied to. Yeah. And Sandy F.A. That was going to be my sabotage this week. Oh gosh, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:28:48 But it's cool. We can talk about it now because you brought it out. But you just throw it out there. Yeah. That was tweeted. He tweeted that this morning. And I can't tell. I was talking to Jesse about this before you guys got here.
Starting point is 00:28:58 But what did he say? He said, I fired Flynn because he lied to the vice president and the FBI. And then he just said a bunch of other bullshit. I don't listen to him. And then like nothing to see here. But, dude, you either, I don't think he knew about the FBI line thing.
Starting point is 00:29:21 But if he did, that just piles on to the, you know, not the conspiracy, not the cuspersky, but the, but the collusion and the obstruction charges. Yeah, piles on to it. He just, with all of his tweets and all the shit he says, he's just piling the shit on himself. I don't know if people mention that to the obstruction thing with this tweet specifically. So I get generally how it's obstruction, but specifically like with, if he knew about the FBI or even if he didn't like, how does that tweet directly translate to obstruction? Well, because it kind of bolsters his intent. It shows his intentions by knowing that he had lied to the FBI. It gives him a reason, a motive.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Right, to get people to stop. And just deciding he's just gonna make the judgment call that, oh, he's a liar, just get him out of here. He doesn't need to go through the due process of the FBI actually investigating why he lied. Yeah, that makes sense. So it's like, you just made an executive move basically. It's like he parted in someone.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I'll take care of this. Yeah, yeah. You got rid of him so reluctantly too, right? Oh yeah. He did. He did. Oh yeah, 15 days. 15 days.
Starting point is 00:30:33 15 days. After he was warned the second time. Yeah. Out, after he found out that he, after he found out that he liked that. I hope you did find out that he loved the FBI. Then why did he go right to Comi and say, hey, why don't you get this guy for a, oh yeah. Good point. Yeah. That's that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that.
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Starting point is 00:31:03 I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like Sweetheart of a guy. Mentos. He's the best Turkish kid napper I know. Yeah. And Turkish did like. Turkish did like what kids have. Oh no. But yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I misspoke. I didn't mean that he got fired 14 days after he was warned. He was warned before he hired him. Right. He can count him back like when it really did. And January, before he took office, or right around the time he took office, or right when he was taking office, because that's what that Obama meeting took place. He was warned like, don't fucking hire that guy. Yeah, that's my kind of guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It's almost like, did you do it? Because people didn't want you to? But no, he's had to do a lot of, like, you know, the administration, the cabinet, like, that explains a lot of his dirty motives. Yeah, I know, but had to have been doing something massively and majorly important. Sure, Flynn special, as you mentioned. Yeah. He's a nice fish. It is amazing to see the Republicans were still denying, saying it's all fake news when you have Manafort and Flynn and all these people in the inner circle. Well, they'll do it to the very end because it might work if they you know get off somehow Like there was still people defending Nixon when John Dean. I can imagine. Yeah, some people will stay
Starting point is 00:32:13 You know loyal to him no matter what and they're really catering to them and and hoping that like you know They'll still give votes. The stupid people will still vote for him. Yeah, because I know at least 30% of them will, you know, I mean, like, they're going to be like, Didn't a lot of Republicans stick with them this far just to try to get this tax cut thing to vote for? Yeah, well, the rich ones, I mean, it's only so many of them. Aren't most Republicans really poor? Like, isn't that a thing?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Like, not as much. The ones in power, I think. Yeah, I can say that I'm not going to power, but later. The ones who are voting on the ones who vote against their interests are voting for the Republicans their own interests are voting. The constituents, you know, only one Republican voted against it. Yeah, so it seems like their constituents wouldn't want that, right? You would think they wouldn't vote for them next year, but I guess some of them might.
Starting point is 00:32:57 It's crazy. We know the Democrats are going to vote in all their people, but like, it's not necessarily enough, right? You need like better people in the Republican state. There's always just such a waste of time. It's like they pass policy and don't even allow enough time to go by for you to see the actual effects. Right, like the tax bill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And apparently it was like illegible. Like they couldn't even read it. It's just ridiculous how they're, yeah, they had a note, yeah, scribbled on, something. Yeah, very house of carsish. Yeah, because this now that they have accomplished that tax cut thing that they wanted, do you think some of them will start turning them Trump? That's what I have.
Starting point is 00:33:30 It's a good question. Well, the bill isn't done. They still have, I think, seven sticking points and 15 amendments that they have to get in there somehow. They have to reconcile it with the house bill. People have a lot of tacked on stuff about about like coal mining and aviaries or like there are there are extra tax breaks to people who own gold and they're ex get this there are extra tax breaks for people who own private
Starting point is 00:33:57 jobs wineries and golf course. That's not like any that's what I get this. That sounds like everyone we know. Oh my god. It's incentive. They just want to solve it on better lives. But Trump's going to suffer under this plan. Oh, it's a tough one. With his jet and his golf courses and winery.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I feel so hopeless. How do you fight that? That'd be really great if they were like people who own state companies and red hats. Exactly. And they just walked around his house and just wrote down things. And they can do it.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Golden toilets, tax free. Tax breaks for anyone that kills like endangered animals. That's how elephants hide some of these. They should not be allowed to use the elephant as their symbolizing them. Tax breaks, you have murder of a bully man with them. I can't believe they're using the elephant as their,
Starting point is 00:34:42 it's ironic at this point. They should have the ass. Yeah. Why do we have the avos? What would you give us? Like, what would you give the Democrats if you give us? I say, uh, it's presumptuous. Like, what would you give the Democrats here? Instead of an ass?
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah. An ass getting kicked by an elephant? Yeah, it's still pretty assy, up there at the top. So, I don't know. An ass humping itself. An ass with its own head up its own ass. There you go. An ass of aura boris, if you will. as pumping itself. Ask with its own head up its own ass. And ask for a Boris, if you will.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Turn back into the sun. Shrodinger's ass. I don't know. Now I'm just making shit up. Let's see. I'm just looking through my notes here. Flynn had an urgent back channel call with Kisley. I glassed December. We went over that. Right. Obama had just ordered sanctions, yeah. And I talked about Hufflyn consulted with a top Trump aide after he called Kislyak. And that's when Flynn
Starting point is 00:35:35 told Kislyak that Trump would reconsider sanctions if you just chill out about these. Yeah. God, that's so messed up that he did that. But and while all this stuff while I'm looking at all this stuff that Flinded and said that we know about It's it doesn't seem like enough to explain why Trump would keep him around and then defend him go out of his way And it struck justice to defend the guy makes it feel like there's more for sure It's it's like what and I'm I'm racking my brain trying to think of what it could possibly be. I was gonna ask you but you don't even know like you just you're still pretty stumped yourself. When was holding the camcorder during the p-tap? That's there you go. That's gotta be it. It's the main camera man.
Starting point is 00:36:17 He's a main cameraman. He's got to be a little bit too much. He's not in his face the whole time just scratched up., not a join. Yeah. We can tell anyway, man. I wonder how many times in his life he said, four stars probably don't have to deal with a shit. I can count the stars, bitch. Like, generally, four stars, because that's remember when a, what's her face? She looks like the comedy store couch.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Sarah Sanders. How could we say that? Sarah Sanders. When she's she's who I'm 10 years older than by the way, it's freaking me out Oh now I forget what I was talking about wish she said she had defended Trump. Oh, you know what what we're talking about I'm still pretty stoned No, on wheeler. She, what were we just talking about? A new game for our stoned listeners. You didn't mention a lot though that like correlates with what I was going to discuss about Kushner and the back channels, too. He called Kisleyak, not to worry, or Escalate Flynn, told Kisleyak that Trump would reconsider
Starting point is 00:37:23 sanctions if they just chilled out. I got a question for you. Before all this happened was the term nothing burger a thing before this. I've never heard that before. I am. It's my first time hearing an ad. I think... I really, I really love this word.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I do know it's a nothing burger. Oh, that's so... I think that Democrats were using it. I think it started in Beggarby. Then they used it first. Okay. We made culture. We created the nothing burger. I think it started in Beggarby. We make culture. We created the nothing burger.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Why nothing burger? Why burger? Burgers are cute like the bomb.com. You know, why dot com? I think burger. Yeah. I think I could do without the word snowflake and the word nothing burger. Oh, I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah. And why not, like nothing spaghetti? Or some other food sort? Nothing carne asada fries. Yeah. No, I know it was off the side. It was a long way to go. I wish I had had nothing carne asada. So much better right now. And then kind of going to the gallon of water. Man, if you don't have carne asada fries when you live,
Starting point is 00:38:18 I'm sorry. Well, what we're talking about was that we think that Flynn must know more or must have something important to the investigation. I'm just guessing, but maybe he's helping him with money laundering. Maybe he was helping him with his hotel in Moscow. Maybe he makes great cocktails. Like I don't know what-
Starting point is 00:38:42 He must be the direct connection because everyone now seem to be tip-toeing around like you know Corresponding with Trump like the emails seem to not directly go to him so there's like a whole Possible deny ability but yeah, but Flynn might be the guy We spoke he could have been like man of Fort West which was a tool. Yeah An asset a rushing government asset where you know, maybe Flynn like only Nixon could go to China Maybe only Flynn can go to Russia. Yeah, maybe he's the guy who can Talk to Putin and not piss him off or you know, really maybe he's somebody that the Russian government listens to and and and Trust because they have him right. I remember the theory that Trump didn't really want to win do you remember when they were saying?
Starting point is 00:39:26 I don't think really he had trump tv in the works I had other media things at least the backup plan, but even bannum we're gonna run the whole right wing media Yeah, you can still run the country in other ways She like all these machinations behind the scenes make it seem like he really wanted to one She feel like all these machinations behind the scenes make it seem like he really wanted to win. Yeah. The whole time we're thinking, yeah, he doesn't really want to win. Oh, you see him? He might have not wanted to win until he realized that Russia could help him and he might actually have a chance.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Or they would hurt him if... Or they all set this up to help him get elected and he had nothing to do with it. Right, his casual people around him. Yeah, yeah. Because the news easily manipulated maybe. I think they thought he was easily manipulated and I realized, whoa, he's way off the rail. We can't even control him at all. Yeah, because not only did they did the Senate and Congress vote to pass more sanctions,
Starting point is 00:40:19 but we also talked about this. I think it was episode two about the Magnitsky Act. There's no way you're going to repeal that. S.O.B. However, the president does have power to cross people off the effect sanctions list. Which is effective enough for Putin. There's a murder right there. So this might be, you know, maybe Michael Flynn is the go between the Kremlin. I mean, he's always involved with these back door things. So maybe he appears on their television channels. Yeah. A good figure. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:48 That had to be what Trump was offered. He must have actually wanted it. Because like he said, I really didn't think he wanted it for most of the time. Like it was just a stunt. But yeah, it's a different thing. And they sold it to him. Or the way the Russians work with their Compromot and if that steel dossier has any teeth to it, that maybe he didn't want to be president, but he has to yeah
Starting point is 00:41:08 I mean it could be yeah a blackmail situation either way It's at the point where I don't think any of them thought they would get this caught up So it clearly doesn't want it now, you know, but I wonder what if he resigned before it even got crazy like you know Did a Nixon thing you think he would be able to let go of it? I don't know. He wouldn't be able to do any business in Russia or Russia would start releasing shit Or I mean he could get in a lot of trouble with Russia. They don't they could own him. I don't you know again Yeah, I don't know about it. Where's the scenario for Trump? Like what is it just looking bad or is it something more concrete?
Starting point is 00:41:40 I wonder what his like triggers are. Some p-tapes. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it is. I assumed that all of this was just for oil money from the beginning. I thought defense contracts but yeah. Oh really? Okay. And, and you know, Tillerson was the exon mobile. Yeah. Russia, exact. So why was Trump considering firing him according to news this week that he was demolished? Because he call them a fucking moron and never apologize for it Tillerson is starting to call him out more again, and that fucking wasn't inserted by me
Starting point is 00:42:13 That's what tillers I don't know Call Trump yeah personal Yeah, the fucking more what he said it with the Texas accent probably More on that he shot off some guns. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time.
Starting point is 00:42:30 He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time.
Starting point is 00:42:38 He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. He said it was for a long time. arrested and Lynn was only charged with one time little count of lying to the FBI. But I couldn't use anything else.
Starting point is 00:42:46 So notice that the people who are cooperating, namely Papadopoulos, Papadok and, uh, and, you got to get the felony as well. And Flynn, from charge of lying, one count of lying to the FBI. And we know he that Flynn has done anymore. Yeah, documents that he didn't send it so much more. Yeah, so he must have Something super great super juicy on somebody's super big. Yeah, but why would they withhold it like what I mean There's been people who there's been people who who have Ruminated that
Starting point is 00:43:23 A lot a lot of weight that like the way the prosecution works a lot of the times is that you have to give two people up and they have to be bigger than you. And then we'll cut you a sweet deal. And also, sentencing doesn't happen for six months to a year. And Mueller has going to have a lot of influence on this. The prosecutor usually has a lot of influence on what's going to happen to the attorney. So this is still hanging over his head. So he asked to basically now turn over everything he knows and I'm sure everything that he maybe even doesn't think is important. And it's, I don't know, it could take a while.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Yeah. But you know, we'll talk about, we'll talk about our upcoming diet and the picks after. I seem to remember from a previous episode you talking about Mueller using why like having people wired and getting. Yeah. Papadopoulos essentially. Yeah. Yeah. So you know what makes me think about that is just that this week Trump comes out saying he thinks the access Hollywood tape.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I'm not sure if that was my voice now, right? Yeah. Even though he had already admitted in a politics. Exactly. Why do you think that? Weird time makes. Well maybe because he's going to also contest voice. Uh, because no, for his being. I honestly think, I
Starting point is 00:44:34 honestly think. I was voice on a wire somewhere else. He's saying, uh, that's not my to sort of as a pre person to tonight. I have heard rumors that Tom Arnold has dirt on him and is thinking about releasing it and the p-tapes. So I think it's gonna be personal if Tom Arnold doesn't have his own p-tapes that'd be so proud. He's a precedent, right? He's a human p-tap. He is p-taped, personified.
Starting point is 00:45:03 How much comforted those two together? And that's how I feel about Sarah Huckabee Sanders too. She's just like, she is whiskey dick walking. Wow. Like, trying to get an answer out of her is like trying to fuck a whiskey dick. We just can't get it. You just won't work. It's like, what if my husband calls it pushing rope?
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yeah. You know, you just won't work. It's like what what if my husband calls it pushing rope How's your like a chicken pop high boiling over? Poor lady Poor bristita when she leaves when she'd be sort of exalted like spicy was later like they had him show up if she's smart She'll show up on Saturday night live She'll be like well, then that is shit they had him show up. If she's smart, she'll show up on Saturday night live. Yeah, she's smart. What do you do? She'll be like, well, isn't that a shit show? Mine is a shit show. You know, just dance away.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And also, they don't need to get out. Oh, she's skeletal or she'll never be likeable. I could see Sanders being likeable in some way. She'd be like, hey, Polter at the roasts. Yeah, like, where the fuck are you doing here? Everyone in here, no, we're doing it yourself. Why does she, do they invite her? Like, yeah, it'll be great.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Exactly. Like when I was a kid, I thought they had to trick ugly people into being in a movie. Oh no. It's like, no, you're going to play this really good looking guy. Come on in. And it's like, it's awful. You're taking out some candy.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Like, would you have to trick him? It's a speaking part. Oh no. It's a credit. Oh man. I'm not gonna say that. What do you have to trick him? Speaking of it. It's a credit. Oh man. Alright, I want to throw this over to you. Who wants to go for it? Julie, did you want to go first?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Yeah, because we just got so much of it already. But I do like that you mentioned the Logan Act. So this is about Kushner and his secret back channel attempt with the Russians. And this meeting happened almost a year ago to the day. So it's all about how Flynn's guilty plea deal is implicating Kushner even further than we knew. So there was the meeting that happened, the fact that Flynn lied about his own meetings and now we have this thing that might be like the closest tangible law that they can get him for. It's rarely prosecuted, the Logan Act. It's, you know, private citizens can't interfere with public policy, but like, and it was made in 1766. It's like the kind of
Starting point is 00:47:11 thing that we have to pull it out. I feel like Mueller would, but I think it's just, it's another thing that's just implicating a top official. It's like, once you get a mall in a row, like when are we gonna say that this is enough, you know, we got what? It's just four or five? What are we on? Four arrests? Four like top officials that are like implicated. Yeah, also, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Felenies. Yeah, yeah. So four Trump aids that have committed felony. It's crazy. And Kushner is as close as it gets to Trump, I think, outside of maybe pins or something. Do you teach your junior? Kushner. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yeah, so that he knows this he knows. We knew Kushner knew things in the emails, but this is something we didn't know. We didn't know that he said, hey, Flynn, go talk to these Russians. Like, how much more direct? How can't you get any closer than that, you know? And how does Trump not know? Exactly. How did Trump daddy not know? That's crazy. Yeah. But then again, they might be able to tell them. Yeah, it's gonna say, I wonder if they actually... To protect him. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But then again they might be able to tell him. Yeah, it's gonna say I wonder if they're they actually to protect him Yeah, yeah, but then once they all fall they would just be knowingly leaving Yeah, which I would hope no one would do such an activity or he has Alzheimer's and they tell him but he forgets
Starting point is 00:48:17 Does it remember or they just misconstrued his dinner orders? He's like I'll take the salad with the Russian dressing It's just so crazy that like I know I Mule is going to get to the core of it way better than any best guy, but the fact that it's so clear to us, we're just regular people. You know, this is something that it's something that's got to give. And the Logan Act is just a thing they're floating around because it's the closest law that they could probably get a damn for. Cushner, that is. Yeah, well, for those guys, yeah. Because I don't think obstruction charges will work. But I don't think they'll go with the Logan Act.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I think that they could use it as a bargaining chip. Yeah, yeah, there we go. But I don't think they'll charge them with it. I think they'll charge them with conspiracy. They'll leverage, yeah, yeah. It's just another thing I need. Music in STEM, yeah. And it's tangible like it's just you can't even that Trump should have known these things that's you know just just to they just have to find that that
Starting point is 00:49:12 document or that email or that you see Trump doesn't email. Well I was wondering yeah, how how do they actually they have to they're gonna have to have somebody say I told them but that's what we got we got Flint. Oh you need a Russian a Russian have to come out. I told them but that's what we got we got a flint oh you mean a Russian a Russian have to come out any of them or people the more people that do yeah the the less it's he said he said and it's you know it's like honestly it just adds to the intent of obstruction it really I think this is oh there's two tracks that this that this, that this, and I got this question this week. Let me, let me find the question and read it to you. Yeah. About the two tracks.
Starting point is 00:49:51 So, Anne Craig Tillman posted on our Facebook site, realistically, do you think the trail to chump takes the obstruction of justice road or more deeply intentionally to show actual collusion leading to treason? And I said, both, there's two tracks to this investigation right now. And one of them is an obstruction track and one of them is a conspiracy track. And right now, the main focus seems to be on the obstruction. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Trump obstructing justice, firing all the U.S. attorneys, getting rid of the guy we've been to, we talked about last week, the U.S. attorney of the Eastern District of Virginia, who's the third in line. Yeah, manipulating the position. Yeah, firing him, telling these senators to leave it, to let it go, to stop the investigation. Tell homie. Burr, the head of the Senate Intel Committee, stop it. Telling Comey, hey, lay off Flynn, hey, stop this investigation. That's a good name, yeah, obstruction that he's been successful at it's semi-so-final. His tweets indicate this, all this evidence, and then his interview with Lester Holden, ABC, where he said, I fired him because of Russia, basically.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah. And then his recorded meeting with Kislyak, when he gave up the Israeli intel, and then also said, I fired Komi, Russia pressures off now. All of this together, because obstruction is hard to prove. But because you have to prove intent and frame of mind, right? Could you easily prove he's not helping? He's clearly not helping. Maybe you're not a instructor, but you are not helping.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I'm not getting that. Yeah. Have you looked at one finger to help us with this? No. I should probably hear her that. You're probably unhelpful. Crack. Crack.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Crack. Crack. Crack. Crack. Crack. Crack. Crack. Crack. Crack. Crack. Crack. So that's kind of what that whole, I mean that's a one track there. Yeah, the construction track and then the conspiracy track did Trump knowingly offer to reduce
Starting point is 00:51:52 sanctions in exchange for the president. Right, which might be harder, I think, than the construction. Now that we have all of this obstruction, like the little pieces, I think we have more on that than conspiracy with Trump. I feel directly. Yeah. Now, I think that we do and I think Flynn's going to give, I think Flynn have more on that than conspiracy with Trump. I feel directly. Now, I think that we do. And I think Flynn can give a lot equally to both tracks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:10 So whichever gets there first. Right. And we did have another question. I just wanted to answer really quick before I toss it over to you. Kate Conner said, if Flynn does indeed state Trump directed him to contact Russia, would a normal impeachment process occur,
Starting point is 00:52:24 and would Pence become the president, or would they nullify the election results? Yeah, that's a good question. You can't nullify election results, unfortunately. I wish you could, but I don't think that that's a reasonable thing. And it's never been done. It's never. There's always one thing.
Starting point is 00:52:41 But for everything. Yeah, I mean, I wish we could take back all of his court picks and all of his, you know, Oh, it's just too deep at that point, right? Yeah. Well, you know, I just don't know, I don't think you can nullify an election because you have, because who would you put in? The other person has to be elected. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:01 And we don't have another elected person. Just better to wait for the next cycle that's already planned right? Elephant is like an annulment You know like an annulment for a Yeah, yeah And it's a very source kind of late. Yeah Late turn You gotta do that in the first were saying like, the day Trump was elected, they're like, let's get him out.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And I'm like, that's ridiculous, but then we missed our window. Right, yeah, we did. Right, we did. That first week, you do it like the end of the day. The routine. All the wedding presents, and then you go out. Yeah. Not the end of the time.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Oh, poor boobs. But any, and impeachment, okay, the Congress has to impeach him, and it's full of stacked Republicans. Now, if I can stop it single-handedly, there's one vote, one person, no. But anyway, going back to what I was saying about impeachment, is it has to be done in Congress, and I don't think that they're going to have the repulverability votes to do that. But then also the question came up, like, could they just charge an indict and arrest Trump? And I don't know that Mueller would indict
Starting point is 00:54:15 and charge a sitting president. Oh, that's right, hit the wait, right? I think so at the end. What you don't turn, I think he can. But I think what is more likely to happen is Mueller will get all the information put it a report and give it to Congress and say do what you will. My job is done. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Okay. Get Congress takes that file. That's me pretty cool. I'll give you a sentence of the song. That's me really. That's me. I'm curious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:42 We're going to hold that rocket. Good bye. This is the Eucharist Bill. This goes in the line. Yeah The There's why it's really important to vote in the right people this next time around It's always really important, but yeah It's really important. Yeah kids get off your fucking ass isn't gonna vote you pieces of butt midterm elections are where fucking It's all old people show up to vote.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Fuck. It's so true. But anyway, that was where our questions this week. If you guys have any questions at all, you can go to Mueller, Sheeran, on Facebook. Post your questions. We're happy to answer them. There's good questions.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Did you see? We have a listener that posted Trump's tweet on our wall. Oh, yeah. We tried before I early recorded today. Yeah. It was like partially opinion, but also a question. We talked about it a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I before I really recorded today. Yeah, it was like partially opinion but also a question We talked about it a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what people yeah. Yeah. Yes shout out to our listeners Okay, so yeah Nick Nick McLearen
Starting point is 00:55:34 Thanks for listening Nick. He posted his tweet and then said is a mere did the president just incriminate himself publicly on Twitter that he knew Flynn had lied to the FBI a felony when he fired him. And one of those faces with the crazy eyeballs. But yes, Nick, you are correct. It's crazy. Yeah, he just shot himself in the foot. Yeah, pulling everyone's minds. Again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Exactly, it's unfair. It doesn't seem to make any difference. Yeah, that's why Mueller so important is because Trump has made it so that in the public world, nothing matters. Yeah, but we could get this whole report completely damning, showing conspiracy and obstruction. Yeah, exactly. And Congress might, like you said, put it in this way.
Starting point is 00:56:18 With the right people. And instead of so. Yeah. I'm going to be saying we need more Democrats as a Democrat. I'm just saying we need people because there's You said there was one Republican that didn't vote for Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Now fuck you. Right. We're done. Maybe we'll see. I don't know. I just have to believe that there's plenty of Republicans that do see the incompetence there.
Starting point is 00:56:49 They do. Yeah. He hasn't gotten much done. Right. He's not even spoken out, right? Yeah. Like two. Ryan was super anti-him for a long time.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Yeah. I guess it's like their anti-trump until they're not, which is really frustrating. Well, until they have to be to get something done. Yeah. Like the comments are harder too. Exactly, but there's still a party. I feel like family is, all right? If they weren't trying to take away everyone's health care,
Starting point is 00:57:10 I feel so bad for the public and so it is right now. It's those sweet things. But really honestly, you deserve it. Yeah, yeah. Our family's going to murder that family. Yeah, we're a family, guys. So yeah, Nick, he did when he tweeted that out today. And I couldn't believe it. And I don't know if he knows what he did and it's still up.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Who's in charge of his tweet? Exactly. Why is it so misleading? If I'm the president and I'm tweeting about indictment, felony indictments. Happening in my administration. I might consult my lawyer. You think yeah yeah just maybe. How could the lawyers have told him not you know actively told him not to tweet. So maybe he just stopped listening.
Starting point is 00:57:51 That's what I've heard too. Yeah so he's actually not listening. Wow. Monaco Monopoly guy. Yeah. Someone was reviewing his stuff for a little bit there right. And then I decided to forget it. It's not that's not happening Yeah, I don't know what happened with General Kelly, but he's gone. They um What was it a couple days before? I haven't heard right haven't heard anything but a couple days before this trumpet tweeted some he had retweeted out some Anti-Muslim stuff. Yeah, yeah Super right we are kind of ISIS recruiting videos. Yeah, videos from all great groups. We are kind of ISIS recruiting videos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah. From a super rideway, even Theresa May, even like super conservative Theresa May, like you are a fucking lunatic. Right. And now the House of Commons and Parliament, they're like, do not invite them. And I think they canceled the state. Right. Everybody does only want them to visit. They don't want him. He's banned. There's not a lot to do. Just inciting violence around the world. Yeah. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Okay. At least other countries are doing something. Like, yeah. Radical anything. Violent radical, anybody is bad. Yeah. Okay. Should be called that on every side definitely but
Starting point is 00:59:10 I just can't imagine Obama doing any of this and get away with any of it No way and that's when it comes down to not just party but race does still play a huge role That's the way that Tansu yeah so true People flipped out over I'm thinking back trying to think of some scandals, you know, because I go through this and these notes and this just the facts was 11 note cards today. Yeah. And like every day, 20 things, just below my head. You should make like a compilation or whatever or whatever they call it a montage of all the scandals that Obama had just That's it and the mustard the fancy mustard
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right that one time when he was in the water. Oh Yeah, and then now what's your name? Um his daughter they're making a deal out of it More people probably need to smoke weed there's your solution to that bigotry I'm just I know I'm bias. Yeah, but like just take notes in life. You might feel better I'm gonna get a little sound for that. That's what I was talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 It's a play-gill game show. Yeah. Oh god, that's cool. The new stoner. Short attention to paid trivia. Yeah, those are the pop quiz every time. What? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I'm fucked. Oh my god, you guys are killing me. All right, Jordan, you have to tell us some things about Jeff Sessions. Yes, so. Bo Regarde. Oh my goodness. Yes, Bo Regarde had a, he gave testimony on Thursday to the House Intelligence Committee. This was a closed-door session and it was an over, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:02 It was in a three-hour- long plus testimony. So super long sessions. Again, refuses to tell the committee whether Trump asked him to impede the investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. So he's doing the same thing that he did. The last time that he was giving testimony and the time for that. He said he didn't remember. Yes. Now he's refusing to answer. Yeah, so I'm yeah, definitely down on that. And he said he didn't remember. Yes. Now he's refusing to answer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:25 So I'm yeah, definitely not on that. That's what he says. It's just I refused the answer. He said what he says is. It's a huge problem because he does not have executive privilege. I didn't know that was not. So when they when they asked him, he says when he when he testified like a couple of months back and it was like public, he had said that or early last month. He said that he's not
Starting point is 01:01:46 going to disclose private conversations that he had. Just on the on the principle of not disclosing private conversations because those are private conversations. That's not right. And he doesn't have to. You have private conversations with the president as the attorney general. Yeah, there you go. There's your implication right there. Yes, but it is he he they can compel him to answer the question. And if he doesn't, he's in what do they call it? So he did say. What did not happen?
Starting point is 01:02:14 That worked. Of course. So apparently, he does say he says, I'm not going to tell you any details. I'm not going to answer the question as you just gave it to me because I'm not going to reveal details about private conversation, but I did not act in any improper ways as to take my word for it. Yeah, he was saying. He was to answer the part where it did Trump direct you to. Wow. Yeah, all he said was so telling all I saw him say or all it was reported that he said was that he did not do anything improper because Trump told him to but he didn't use the actual language.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Oh, so it's the question. Technically. So I don't know if by omitting that language, he then like absolves himself of another account. That's what purge really is do. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it. Because he doesn't want to purge himself and he doesn't want to say that Trump told him to repeat that. That's how he doesn't get chipped up for a line. But he's already I guess I said plan. I can see what they're going to do at least what the
Starting point is 01:03:10 Democrats on the Senate and tell committee are going to try to persuade the executive to do is to compel sessions to answer the question you must answer this question. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Trump. President Trump. Right. Yeah, um, yes. Dude, Trump, President Trump, uh, uh, direct you to a pee the- Now why wasn't you answered, I do not recall, isn't that there a comment? Isn't that the thing they always said?
Starting point is 01:03:31 He did, yeah. I do not recall. Yeah, especially when you're bober gonna- I'm never ish! I do not remember. Yeah, but in what's interesting is he didn't. He just refused to answer that question. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Yeah. Shifts, so, uh set so Representative Adam shift of California Yeah, he's Yeah, it makes you like yeah, what do you buy in time for? I don't know like what do's like just holding on to that $180,000 salary whatever the fuck I do like why don't you just come out and say yeah, I he told me to do it I quit because he's so far in it's like when you're caught in the eyes Some people just like
Starting point is 01:04:17 He can't do you're holding on me I'm not gonna tell truth and I'm not gonna tell why I'm gonna pick a third up I'm gonna add onto this table. That was a private table. It was a video. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's gonna have a feel. Oh, you know it, it's true.
Starting point is 01:04:37 It's a very favorite human being. She is really serious. She's a little funny. Yeah, she's amazing. But, so Adam Schiff just says, he's the top-ranking senior Democrat on this intelligence committee. He reports, quote unquote, I asked you attorney general whether he was ever instructed by the president to take any action that he believed would hinder
Starting point is 01:04:58 the Russia investigation, and he declined to answer the question. So that's what's being reported directly by the top-ranking members of that committee. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. If you had a problem. That's funny. That's a good sketch there.
Starting point is 01:05:17 You need a mint julep. That's a classic plan. It's gonna be a plan to write a clown. That's a clown, too. Oh, it's too big. It's too big. It's a clown. It's a clown. It's a clown. It's a clown.
Starting point is 01:05:36 It's a clown. It's a clown, I'm not even looking at you. It's a clown, I'm not saying. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah. Perchage came in with when asked what has she was going to pay for, she said she had AARP. And my friend didn't know what that was because she was like 16 and she was like, what's AARP? And she said the American Association of Retab People. Oh, it's a great. It's like, excuse me. You need to pronounce that better.
Starting point is 01:06:07 It's not a thing. Retired. It's better to pronounce that better. It's not a thing. Retired. It's not a thing. Retired. It's not a thing.
Starting point is 01:06:19 It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It's not incorrect. Yeah. It's crazy. You can pay with anything nowadays.
Starting point is 01:06:29 With bigotry. Yeah, it's all open. It's like a Bitcoin. Yeah. But yeah, so that was just, you know, another round of unsuccessful and potentially incriminating testimonies. Disappointed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:41 My chest sessions. And same day, Eric Prince, we talked about him up at the top. He's a founder of Black Water USA Security firm and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos. He was also, he gave testimony behind closed doors and this was supposedly about a secret meeting he had with... say shill? How do you say it? In the in the six-year-old island. Yes, in the say shill islands. In January of this year that was allegedly with a Russian businessman with ties to Putin This is the fear. I this has been reported. I don't know if I would if I'm comfortable saying that that's like Has been supported by enough facts just now, but yeah, but that's what people are saying and
Starting point is 01:07:23 That that that it was like for the reason like for the reason of him meeting a guy that had ties the Putin specifically and to do some sketchy Russian shit. That's like what the, yeah, that's the reason he's being accused of. Yeah, it's hard to think of another thing. thing but apparently like obvious facts like that don't amount to actually criminality so that's exactly how it's written in email too we're gonna do some sketchy Russian shit I know a lady and if it's shady I love this yeah everyone knows exactly what you're talking about sketchy as it sounds I love it yeah But this guy's kind of a new dude.
Starting point is 01:08:06 We haven't talked about him in our podcast yet, really. And like, the Villeuses brother. Yeah, this prince dude. So he's saying that he did not present himself as any sort of an official affiliate with Trump, but it's appearing. He's on the way. He's on the way.
Starting point is 01:08:24 He seems like that. And so yeah. I don't know. I don't know. He's totally in LA. Yeah, and so yeah. I don't know. Sure is a great guy. Yeah, he's denying he had anything to do with Trump. But then, yeah, there's other reports saying exactly it was non-voi for Trump. And then in this meeting, apparently it was organized
Starting point is 01:08:38 by the United Arab Emirates. And it was a talk that was created to see if Russia could be persuaded to back away from its relationship with Iran in Syria. So that's what's being reported. Yeah, and that's fucking sketchy. That's just sketchy on a global level unlike nothing else. So, it's all so sketchy. Yeah, that's sketchy.
Starting point is 01:09:00 That's sketchy. Yeah, ranch. That's sketchy. That's sketchy. That's sketchy. Turkey. Yeah. good. Yeah, right? And shit. That's good. Serious. Get your turkey. Yeah. Dude, turkey isn't even in this dinner, man. They're stuck in. That's a turkey dinner.
Starting point is 01:09:10 That's beautiful. Yeah, it's like, why isn't turkey coming? This is crazy. Everything's just, I wonder, this makes me wonder just really like, this could go on for at least until the court dates in May. I wonder if that's why they set them there because they're like, we're going to be discovering stuff like this for months and months and months and it's going to be probably how water
Starting point is 01:09:33 gave us. Yeah. So deep. Yeah. Yeah. They're the best team. I mean, they seem to know what they're doing even though they learn new things all the time, but I'm still confident.
Starting point is 01:09:44 I mean, I get a little hopeless sometimes when I hear about like sessions and like you know getting around perjury but it's got a come back. Yeah it's not him getting you know alluding it over and over again it's just that it's gonna take time for him to finally actually like yeah get to the truth. Alright guys let's talk about this week's indictment fix you have any it. It's the indictment fantasy league. Wow. Yeah, okay, so. I got, we all get a point for Flynn, right? Yeah!
Starting point is 01:10:10 Oh, we do, yes! I mean, I understand you just played guilty and all that other stuff, but. It counts. Yeah, yeah. So we're assuming that the kid, young Flynn, is safe. He's safe. Yeah, yeah. I think I'm going to say that.
Starting point is 01:10:24 It's part of the deal. Yeah, it's part of the deal. Yeah, it's part of going to say it. It's part of the deal. Yeah, it's part of the deal. Yeah, it's part of the deal. Yeah, it's part of the deal. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, because they mentioned they had charges on them, so that they're gone. Yeah, it almost be dirty, kind of, I think, if Mueller went for his kid.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Yeah, anyway, it'd be fair. It'd be fair, totally fair, but I feel like maybe. It's like, I think the kids, these are how to kid. I feel like maybe It's like thinking the kids, man. He's a grandpa now. Nah, humanizes him. That's not gonna be enough. Yeah, I know kidnap her. Not to lose.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I was thinking like an upper-level Trump person for directing them to contact Russia. And there's a lot of assumption that it was Kushner, right? Yeah, National Security Advisor. It is Kushner that it's K-2 McFarlane Mm-hmm. Who was a deputy? To him like Flynn's like second hand. Oh, yeah, that's my Oh good. Yeah, I keep forgetting that yeah, but they've mentioned yeah, and DTJ Yeah, I keep forgetting that. Yeah, they've mentioned.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah, and DTJ Donald Trump Jr. is doing his closer testimony next week, also fun fact. Interesting, okay. I actually think, I don't know. I don't want to go out in a limb and say, I think personally to me, I died in this week. Yeah, it seems like there's more to. It's better when it's a more precise, yeah predictions. So many important testimonies are happening this week of
Starting point is 01:11:49 December. Yeah. And we also have the Alabama election. And I mean FCC I know it's not related but it makes me sad every time. Yeah. Open session testimony that's going to be happening on the 13th or 14th. 13th. Christmas is going to be crazy. Like our feelings are going gonna be all over the place. One way or another. I'm gonna be sad about taxes and happy about it. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 01:12:12 She's based on haircuts. So you think Donald Trump Jr.'s the most guilty looking. I love it. She's just flying me. Yeah. Like he looks stereotypical in a flying way. He's got a Nazi haircut. Yeah, but his hair is a sped up.
Starting point is 01:12:26 What's that guy's name, Spencer? You know what I think? It'd be really funny if there were a Mueller sketch where he is obsessing over superficial things like that. But really serious. Well, the haircut pilot. Yeah, look, he had that picture. He's a two-pay on the table.
Starting point is 01:12:41 His board of connectors. He's always like that. Yeah, those connected hair. He's like, those bad haircuts from the first one. Oh, it's beautiful. A red hat. And then Eric Trump has that weird, like, he can't close his lips. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:58 I don't normally make for the hair on my son else. Oh, it's beautiful. I'm Eric. Yes. They nailed it. Definitely. Yeah, I could go. Crazy. They nailed it. Definitely. Yeah. I think gosh. Crazy. That's how you're getting better.
Starting point is 01:13:08 You need, you know, conflicts to have good sets. I know, man. When a bomb got elected, they're just like, well, now what do we do? Yeah. It's just peachy. I just thought protesting when he was elected. Well, like, it is, I was like, we're good.
Starting point is 01:13:18 We won. We're good. Yeah. Yeah. Pencil, I'm swung back. Pretty hard. Oh, it's so hard. Yeah. But I agree with you for sure, Kushner. That's the right. Yeah. Cross fingers. Yeah. Yeah. I'm swung back pretty hard. Oh, yeah. I agree with you for sure, Kushner. That's right. Yeah. Cross fingers. Definitely. You're saying this week, you think?
Starting point is 01:13:29 I think it could be this week. If not this week, next week. It's gotta be soon. I'm hoping. But it seems like he's space and shit out. Really? Like, I wasn't expecting from Friday. I thought it was meal or Monday. I thought it was gonna come out on my days. And now I'm like, it could be any day. I'm just hopeful all they will come out and then we'll know that they're set for trial later so we can all just talk about it for months. But I would hate to think that he's going to wait months before they, like, or weeks before they tell us, but I think that's just how- I have a lot of time to actually do discovery and get like dark things.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Yeah, it makes- I'm so impatient, that's my whole thing. I know we were talking about this last night like Well now they're in the inner circle. They've got They've got fun. Yeah, it's gonna just So I love the beans in the trunk pens DT junior everybody The cushion everyone's going down They're gonna be bonka and it'll be like oh complicit
Starting point is 01:14:21 Have you ever thought about that? Is that a possibility? I Oh, yeah, come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play.
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Starting point is 01:14:38 Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. Come play. I don't know if Kushner would bring her in. Yeah, I feel like she would have been talked about more, even if she was trying to disobey.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I'm sure she's been questioned. She sat in on a lot of meetings and she was officially cabinet person, right? Yeah. I guess that would be an interesting plot twist. Yeah, I know that Kushner just seems to be getting implicated more and more and more. It's his wife. I mean, he probably had to tell her something. I feel like Trump would protect Ivanka more than he did.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Oh, you know it. Yeah. Yeah. More than anyone. More than home picks, probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah more conspiracy theory issue, but like even if like Tiffany wanted to come out and talk about like how much of a creep he is like Donald or like all their you know dirty laundry there's probably a clause in the will that prevents that right like if they come out any sooner than than he dies maybe like it could go that deep I don't know how the stuff works. I was afraid that like next like next week like before Christmas everyone's gonna be indicted and would be like all right this was a fun podcast We had a good friend. Yeah, but it would oh it would be so intense. I Welcome that then if this today's a four-year podcast or exactly, you know I'm with you. Oh my god as much as I love it
Starting point is 01:15:58 Yeah, I'm hoping like one year I think I like a one year A year old it'll be bittersweet, but yeah It's gotta happen. Yeah, And also before anyone can like, he can pull any funny business in terms of, you know, firing. Yeah, so that's why, yeah, you also want to tap and quickly just so they'll like catch him before the Roy Moore election.
Starting point is 01:16:15 And that's gonna be intense when they do that chess move. I, it might not be Trump playing chess. I realize when I say Trump and chess, people are like, he's not that smart. He's like, someone's, yeah, checkers, there you go. He's like King Kong. Connector. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Tic Tac Toh. Yeah, seems more up his alley. Tic Tac Toh is the favorite game. Okay, next part, pretty sneaky. You're probably going to play sorry. Oh yeah. Or like clue the Trump administration edition. Oh, that would be so fun.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Oh my gosh, he's on. Oh no, that'd be a good cake starter. Yeah, a silhouette with a toupee like clue the Trump administration edition. Oh, that would be so fun. Oh my gosh, he's eyes. Oh, that'd be a good cake starter. Yeah, a silhouette with a two-pay, like, is the hell yeah, little picture. The Mueller clue. Oh yeah. Did you have any other advertisement pictures? I think I think I've all had a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:16:57 There's a lot of little guys, Cone. Do you think it's just gonna like kind of gloss over or maybe he just already has a little guys? I know we talked about that. He's gonna already have some other people. Yeah or he won't need him at this point. He would have been called little guys. I love this.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Yeah. But if they have, if they have Flynn, it seems like they don't need to go down. Right. They only need to go up. Exactly. Uh, he can issue all sorts of, you know, arrest and indictment charges on people that are ancillary or peripheral, but he may not meet you at this point, or he already did and it got him here. Well, you might
Starting point is 01:17:36 have to. Yeah. If you find somebody to something criminal, you probably are local for it. Yeah, yeah. But it just seems so like promising that Flynn is the biggest like catch-hole need to like he might be the one to take him take him down. Well, he's that's who's next is at the level I feel like there's two more levels. There's the Kushner Donald Trump Jr. Yeah, then there's the the Trump hands level. But they probably wouldn't flip per se like Flynn would, because you know, family I think is just till the end. So I think Flynn's probably the only one.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I wonder your coachner, yeah. Really? Because he's not blood or anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Relationships she's really close to her father. She's a designer like it's they they're New Yorkers They don't seem but so did Donald Trump seem like they don't see like you know until he's Is particularly because they're Jewish yeah, I don't think I don't think I'm not sure if all this shit then when for the power Exposure right like just getting close to that oval is is attempting for anyone even hope pigs didn't say no when she's claimed
Starting point is 01:18:43 She wanted to she was like oh, I didn't say no when she's claimed she wanted to. She was like, oh, I didn't know I'd be doing this, but you chose to do it. So obviously there's some temptation on your end. Yeah. Yeah. I want money. Would it take for you guys to work for some of my Trump blankets? It would take.
Starting point is 01:18:55 It would take. It would take a little bit of, you know, an RV full of cash. It wouldn't take much. Because I wouldn't work for him. I wouldn't work for him, and I would still not believe. Oh, exactly. Exactly. I just wouldn't necessarily work in his best interest.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Like, I wouldn't serve it the pleasure of Trump, but I would take his payroll. I would use his computers to like, blog about him until he fires me. Like, if you were Sarah Huckabee Sanders, you'd be winkin' at the end of the day. I couldn't do that. You know what that- The Steven speech is going for it.
Starting point is 01:19:20 I wouldn't laugh. Yeah, I'd be way too blunt. But, no, that'd be great. I'd love to see that crossing But no, that'd be great. I'd love to see that crossing your fingers. Because they're always that, you know, it's like, what does it take for this to sell it so? A lot of us work for it.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Yeah, I happen. Yeah, yeah. I feel like Sarah, she's clearly like, like I'm sure she's a feminist in her own way. Deep down inside, she can't totally be this, you know, crazy. But yeah, there's gotta be this sense of convenience too I know feminist like proclaim feminists that at the end of it They just choose whatever is convenient even if it doesn't reflect definitely the ideology
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yeah, oh, it's awful. I used to know it exists until recently I wasn't there like Kelly and Conway coming out saying Things against him privately? Yeah, I mean enough money makes you keep it up real good Yeah, cuz you can just get that money and then like you say in a year or two. This is all done You leave. Yeah, like these guys like okay when I when I thought Al Franken should resign It's It's like we're first about to be replaced by a Democrat because the Democratic
Starting point is 01:20:25 governor, uh, Minnesota, would get to fill the seat until the next election. But aside from that, it's like, you have to, I don't know, it's, I don't know you guys, it's, what were we just talking about? Sorry, yeah, there's that segment. I'm not killing a connoisseur. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I just want to throw that in. No, I love it. I love this re-occurring. Is that a segment? I'm not telling you a connoisseur. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:45 I just want to try that. No, I love it. I love this reoccurring. You can resign and like his life isn't over. He can write a book. He can go back to Kata. You can do what I was like. You're right.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Yeah. That's almost scary moochie, right? Because he lasted like two seconds. The mooch. Yeah. He didn't even get his direct deposit, dude. Like he was so good. He was here.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Moochie lasted like literally 17 days, I think. He's like the Flynn of, I believe so, yeah. Oh, that guy! We have the Flynn of the media department. Yeah, that's a fucking guy. Because there was Steven Miller too. There's a lot of quick ones. He was in there like I'm gonna fuck everybody shit.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Yeah, you're fired. I'm a front-stabber. That was his- Yeah, he's like, I don't like Washington, because they're all backstabbers. I'm a front I'm a front stabber. Yeah, that was his yeah, he's like I don't like Washington because they're all backstabbers I'm a front stabber That's the most hard part of his thing. Yeah, but he ended up being like a was like he ended up on all the late night shows Like the late show is even co-variant Yeah, they're all attentionhors I think the moosh
Starting point is 01:21:48 It was so catchy. I'm the fact that we're still talking about him like he did his job Like what he wanted to do was get attention and he got it. I don't think he really cared about the job You know, that's the admit it for this spot like exactly. Yeah, he saw Yeah, he saw him. I'm the love of him. Yeah. Yeah. Which was so funny. You're not in love with that.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Yeah. The mooch is, I mean, I heard that like his wife loved him, and he missed like the birth of his child while he was working those 17 days. But he also has a lot of attention from this, even if he can't get a political child. I got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Well, good point. But did you know him before this, too? Like, it's the most. He was left him because of him. Because of his support. He had to know what he was sacrificing he chose not to be at his child's birth he's just is a dick. I'm glad I did it. Get your seat. Oh my god, poor boy. They all make their choices.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I think at that point they know exactly. I just can't figure what's keeping them there. Unless it's like a life or death thing or a life with being threatened or p-taped on them or something. They probably just don't have many friends outside of this anyway. I think it's why I can still can be a a talk on Fox News for the rest of our lives? We get a paycheck. She's employed, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:09 All these people will have lives after this because they have... They want to go for the ride, maybe, too. Yeah, just, because they probably, in the White House, some people might believe what Trump seems to believe, which is that he'll get off and it'll be over in a minute. You know, for Russia, I would kill you. Yeah. I'd be so scared to do that. You would.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Like, Putin could poison... I mean, I guess he's a president, Putin can get away with it. But when Trump says citizen again, like, Putin can murder him. I was just thinking that earlier, yeah, it's like, no secret service. They still get secret service, right, for a while. Yeah, maybe Putin can't get to him. Also, what about the idea of Russia still gathering
Starting point is 01:23:45 intel on the US government right now? Just throughout all these? Like, do you know if anyone's particularly monstrous to be trying to hack our realm? Well, that's the FBI director, Ray, who testified. Yeah, creating the task force. And it's going to be a part of the agency, like CIS, B.I. NSA. It's going to be international. And he said that they're already working with intelligence probably like Britain. Very nice. Checked from unsecured cell phone. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:24:13 This is a big deal, right? Metro PCS. And you set this agency to combat foreign interference. We need it. Yeah. Much needed. I heard this is probably a rumor. There's supposedly Russia Supposedly like has another plan to attack our like electrical boards. Oh really? Yeah, that's what I heard
Starting point is 01:24:33 Yeah, so it was the political thing of the election was one thing and there's another phase apparently. God just leave us alone People hate us and I think a lot of people don't mind seeing our despise around our demise around the world And then Russia just has the tools to probably actually do it like we thought we were like, you know, unpiniturable But like this is it right now? My house is built Yes Fire Yes
Starting point is 01:24:59 There you go I love it Spicy Yeah It's so sad. I still think that at the end of this. The Mexican that could. No, tell me.
Starting point is 01:25:10 What on make is happy? What this can be good. Maybe even a wave of more progressive. At least anti-Russia politicians make it feel better. They say it always swings back. Yeah, it's like. It goes back to Bush. And after.
Starting point is 01:25:24 It's crazy. I think what's scary to me at least is just that Trump is such a ratings machine, you know, like, we're talking about it right now. Exactly, yeah. There's like top stories everywhere. Everywhere. Yeah. Talk shows making their bones on talking about it. It's almost like, it's like, you have to, like, but he's doing it on purpose partly that just overwhelmed you. Yeah, and for me is a legacy It's a narrative. Yeah. Yeah. So I wonder if it's almost like harder to get rid of him once he's so entrenched in even when he's not president And he's more money. Yeah, me. Oh, he keeps trolling after he's president. What do we do? Just not listen to him because he's not president like tune him out. Will it be that easy Or that one third of the population will listen to it for sure. Yeah, who will always have that?
Starting point is 01:26:06 No, I'm trouble for weighing in on the AT&T to buy Viacond deal because of CNN. What do you mean like in terms of coming out against it or for it? He came out against it. He's not scared we're going to happen. What? And then he write in the same breath we're talking about how he hits CNN, which is part of that. Interesting. And so, it's like, are you allowed to do that? Like, it seems like you shouldn't be allowed
Starting point is 01:26:32 to interfere. But that line has been blurred for a while now. Like, you know, the whole checks and balances thing has been muddied for a minute. His, his put in the finger and private enterprise is pretty, like with that whole carrier air condition or deal you know where he's saved me. Oh but they also I think any investigation they mentioned they're actually having a case out for that right what do they call it like his businesses like
Starting point is 01:26:55 having him having a hand and like receiving revenue through his political actions like oh yeah that's a part of the case right with me like Mueller. Yeah, yeah, there we go. So I feel like that might be the closest thing we can get to. Like a third track he's on. Oh, yeah. Darnation for everyone. Just all the money flooding into his personal businesses. Like Mar-a-Lago, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:16 All of it, yeah, he just, he never, yeah. That was good. So they were gonna get him on that way. They couldn't make him, yeah. Oh, get him for it, you think? Yeah, when they were all going to release your taxes. I mean, every. Special prosecutors, I think that's the idea that, yeah,
Starting point is 01:27:29 he's the only one that really can. It's probably the third track there is the, is the personal business deal. Mm-hmm. Follow the money. Yeah. And because that doesn't really have to do with obstruction or collusion.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Mm-hmm. It's just shitty president. Yeah, yeah. Get him, get him for what youusion. It's just shitty president. Yeah, yeah. Get him for what you can. It's like a boy that's clothed. There's gotta be something. And sure, he might not go to prison or whatever, but in the end, there needs to be some sense of justice.
Starting point is 01:27:53 If we were to do that, he could tie. He can, if he's looking at Trump's finances, he's allowed to, like it says, go work with that. Make those connections. He just, yeah. And if the investigation takes him down, oh, this is interesting. Right, so be it, connections. You just yeah. And if the investigation takes him down, oh this is interesting. Right, so be it.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Yeah, I support it. So when you have money in 16 off the shell companies. Yeah. He could probably see his tax returns, right? Like he has access to all of that. Oh, why can't we see them then? I'm so curious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:20 What is he hiding? Oh, it's gotta be something. It's gotta be something. What could it could? Crazy. In fact, he probably doesn't pay much taxes at all. Yeah, I'm sure he hasn't. Yeah. But the loophole's benefiting him, so I don't know why he would hide that specifically.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Like they all used to loopholes. Well, there was one. Remember the one that did come out where he carried over, I think, $900,000? Oh, the Panama Papers. He just came out on that. Yeah. And he carried that over for, I think he carried that loss for 10 years. So probably didn't pay pet pay.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Probably embarrassed by it more than anything. Yeah, his wealth is like a slow stuff. Yeah. So just like the PP tape, it's probably illegal, but also he's like, uh, Iki. It would be holdings in Russia or maybe in real estate dealing with it. Yeah, hit him with his ego. Whatever it takes, I think. Just go, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Hit his pride. Yeah, I don't care anymore Yeah, we need some that's justice for me. I want to see Trump cry. I want to see anyway crying emojis We are not talking about more about Kushner. I'm sure we're talking about how the closing and on Trump there is in our circle so we can look forward to that. We'd like you to the making of American Nazi. Yeah. Yeah. It depends on how much news comes out between now and then. It's always there for us. I every time I say it's going to be a sleepy week, it's never a sleepy week. So guys, thanks for being here. I've been Jordan Coburn.
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