Jack - Justice Kennedy Retires (feat. Rogue NASA)

Episode Date: July 2, 2018

MAIN - This week, Jordan gives an update on a Roger Stone associate, Jaleesa gives an update on Psy Group, and AG breaks down the relationship between Justice Kennedy and Trump. We also have a chat with an anonymous rep from Rogue NASA! Enjoy!

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And Jordan Coburn. Hello. And we had a tough week this week. On top of the crushing Supreme Court decisions about anti-abortion clinics, workers' rights, gerrymandering, and the Trump Muslim ban, we found out we're losing Justice Kennedy. And he's a moderate Justice, and he's leaving at the end of July, giving Trump an opportunity to choose a new Justice.

I'll be going over that a little bit later in the show. And then the emergency hearing of the House Judiciary Committee being granted and the non-binding resolution passed by the House to Sapina Rosenstein for shit they know he can't turn over. That will inevitably become a pretext to to fire him so Trump can fire him. It was a tough week all in all. So depressing. I know I was out of town all week for a super secret government ego project. The secret government ego project. So what were you guys up to while I was away?

I'm doing some shows. Yeah. I had a, I do like a weekly show at my house. I can turn my living room into a comedy club basically. That's a big thing right now. Like the DIY shows, home style shows, and room. Punk style. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've noticed that happen. I would never do that.

I mean, you have a nice living room. I would not recommend it to your place. Too nice. But my place is really like a hostel. I live with like a billion roommates. That's true. And they're all starving artists. Yeah, so it's perfect.

Do people have to pay to go? No, but they donate. They give us tips. And we have enough to like rent chairs and like get food in it. So this to me sounds like what we would call in high school a party. Yeah, it's pretty much a house party comedy show. Yeah, there's a lot of weed smoking. It's just one person gets to tell a story at a time and everyone has to listen. It's a lot of fun.

That's fantastic. Yeah, I think that's great. Three people came from Chicago randomly. Yeah People from Boston are having someone from New York City. You said that the best show is dude. Thank you I know they were here from Chicago and then they can't did it and come from Chicago for the show right Yeah, they just happen. No, no, I'm not that cool But they flew in all right. Well, it's still great and I think that that's I think this I don't know We have to something needs to change we need something new

Yeah, in comedy and I know we raised enough money this week to get Jimmy Wilbur to bench Yeah, I know I donated I'm gonna feel a little we're sitting on it like I think that's nice though. I think he would have liked that I really do because like I heard no, always sounds weird but out of context I would say I'll do it's love when I sit on that Yeah, basically um he just loved having long talks with people specifically at this place like in powe that was like on a cliff And so he was all about like long chats and just chilling and hanging out and I think a bench is actually really cool Way to it's the perfect way. It really is the perfect thing and I'm glad we got it and I think we should have a mic there when it opens oh yeah

we should Chris in it what what did he drink what was his drink I think you mean yeah yeah so we should crack a bottle of Jameson on the bench and name it and then have a mic that's cool pop up mic make it a bringer yeah I'm down he would he would love that he hated bringers I know know that's why he would love it. But yeah, I was proud to donate to that. We did have some wins this week and I'll go over those in the news. Jordan is going to be reporting on another Roger Stone connection. He has so many. And Jalisa, you're going to talk to us about what? SIG Group, right? Scott's done that update on the SIG Group. Yes, Scott. Yeah, what a cool guest. And we have a very special guest this week.

We have an anonymous representative from Rogue NASA. Okay, and we'll talk to him later in the show. Now Rogue NASA is, it's, you know, all the alt government employee groups that are out there, like, you know, alt white house staffer, or Rogue white house staffer, or Rogue. Oh, there's a, well, there's a rogue now said they have almost a million followers on Twitter. Yeah.

Uh, I know that their proceeds from their shirt sales go to charity and they're a very, they're just a very cool group. And basically, I think what they want to do is make sure that if the government, our government, Trump ever takes down their science, uh, statistics, their global, uh, climate, statistics, their global climate change statistics, etc. Facts, they'll be there to continue to have. That's incredible. Yeah, and the Holocaust, I mean, I'm not saying that we're exactly going through that.

Whoa, left turn. Yeah, yeah, I'm so sorry. In times of really tragic to the whole. Like, you know, like desperate times. Like, I know this sounds like really light and cool because NASA is cool, especially rogue NASA sounds really cool and mysterious. But it's also pretty interesting just considering like what they're doing, the collection of like

this information that in fear that the president might not let it come out someday. Or destroy it. Or destroy it. I remember, yeah, there's just happened way back in the day. There's better examples in the Holocaust, I'm so sorry. I know. Right to poop and slavery. Yeah, it's not how me

Monday. I just think in extremes. But yeah, there's so many better examples. And yeah, just destroying the right, destroying information. The fact that the fact that those data are, I don't know, in danger is scary. Yeah. I can just see him. He's going to like unrighten Newton's laws. Yeah. If it's somehow benefits him. And people will believe it. New, they don't know the difference. And they don't know the difference. And it stays at rest.

That's the new law. And it objects it. It stays in motion. It's the way. It's gonna be the way. See now I'm confused again. If you drop an apple, nothing happens. Yeah.

Every force does not have a reaction because I'm an authoritarian leader and I only do the forcing. I love forcing. For every action there's an equal and non-zero net non-action. And he wouldn't get any of these. And he'll like it. At least so sad that he wouldn't understand. entropy isn't real. I'm 100% efficient. Thank you. Okay, wow that was pretty nerdy. Super nerdy. That was fun. But it's a NASA episode, so that's a pro-man. And I'm super excited to talk to Rogue NASA.

It's gonna be fun. Oh, and guys, our live event is tomorrow. In San Diego at the Loha Comedy Store. I can't wait for that. I also can't wait to figure out what we're gonna do. Yes. It's mysterious, just like A.G. But, um, am I gonna wear a disguise?

Paper bag. Paper bag. Paper bag. People want you to skype her bag. Paper bag. Paper bag. Paper bag. People want you to wear a paper bag. Question mark. Yeah. I'm so pretty. You are the big reveal. Yeah. Alright, so anyway, tickets are on sale right now at Eventbrite. Give them because I, I, there's a lot of people interested in going to this event, so I don't want you to be without a ticket. Or you can search on Facebook for a Mueller She Wrote Live. The links are there to the eventbrite ticket situation. All right, well let's get into it, you guys.

Let's get into the news this week with just the facts. All right, Monday, the Department of Justice gave more documents to Devon Nunez, because he's got a boner for him, and they seem to keep buying more time for Mueller. They'll, Nunez will be like, I need 76 documents. And they'll be like, here's have a document. And they'll just keep like slow feeding him these documents all the while. And I guess he's too stupid to notice

that they're just buying time for Mueller, but that's what I think is happening. Interesting. We could be months away from a finish to this investigation. We could be a year away from a finished investigation. It's impossible to know, which we can credit to the legalist ship that Mueller is captaining. So the House Judiciary Committee, I mentioned this at the top of the show, the House Judiciary Committee, decided to call an emergency hearing, emergency. To interview FBI director Christopher Ray

and Deputy AG Rosenstein. And I heard Asherang Goppocazum Snoopdag. Snoopdag? Yeah, D-A-G. Oh my goodness. So I might call him Snoopdag from now on. That's awesome. He's really silly.

He's no shit. Oh, man. Anyway, they had a hearing with those guys. Initially, Ted Liu, one of our Democratic representatives, challenged the existence of the hearing. He's like, this is stupid. He actually said on the floor, he's like, this is stupid. An emergency hearing. And Nadler, who opened up, he's the ranking member. Jerry? Yeah. ranking minority member, ranking Democrat, gave this big speech up front. Like,

you want to know what real emergencies are? Children are being ripped away from their parents on the border. That's an emergency. Russia is currently interfering with our election and you're going to go suck Putin's dick next month. That is an emergency. And he just when he didn't, I'm paraphrasing it. Yeah, right.

But you know, he gave off list. He could say that he would. He would. He listed off all these. That was the feeling. Oh, for sure. That was an incredible counter to the other bullshit opening of that hearing. Exactly. They're like, well, we need to talk about the IG report that came out. It's like, it's out. We agree with the findings. It's 523 pages. What the fuck else do you want? Right. Read it.

is what the fuck else do you want? Right. Read it. And they're like, do you hate reading? They might. Yes, they do. Yeah. Tray Gaudi's Saliliqui was infuriating. That was so funny.

Little Mr. Four-Year Benghazi fuckface is like, you need to finish this now. Yeah. Oh really? Yeah. Watching those hearings too, I hate watching the actual video feed because you can really just sense their ego and what pieces of crap they are and they just love like fucking Jim Jordan.

Well yeah of course oh my god. Represidents like Jordan of Ohio. They use this as a television opportunity. That's why they wanted this public hearing to go off half-cocked about their conspiracy theories. But in this glorious clip, Rosenstein handed him his ass. Mr. Rosenstein, did you threaten staffers on the House Intelligence Committee? Media reports indicate you did. Media reports are mistaken. Sometimes, but this is what they said. Having the nation's number one law enforcement officer threatened to subpoena your calls and emails is downright chilling.

Did you threaten to subpoena their calls and emails? No, sir, and there's no way to subpoena phone calls. Well, I mean, I'm just saying. I'm reading what the press said. I'm reading what the press said. I would suggest that you not rely on what the press said, sir. Well, I didn't ask if there's no way to do it. I asked if you said it.

If I said what? What, I just read you. No, I did not. Well, now who are ask if there's no way to do it. I asked if you said it. If I said what? What I just read you. No, I did not. Well, now who are we supposed to believe? Staff members who we've worked with, who've never misled us, or you guys, who we've caught hiding information from us, who tell a witness not to answer our questions, who are we supposed to believe? Thank you for making clear it's not personal, Mr. Jordan. Well, I'm saying the Department of Justice.

I'm telling the truth and I'm under oath. And if you want to put somebody else under oath and they have something different. I know these staff members. After the hearing, the full house voted in past and non-binding resolution demanding Department of Justice documents by July 6th, knowing full well per Department of Justice policy under a Republican appointed attorney general who wrote these, the DOJ cannot turn over classified documents in an open and ongoing investigation. They can't.

And this could give the house cause to impeach Rosenstein, which could then in turn give Trump cause to fire him. So we'll see what happens on July 6th. Yeah, I also love how I think it was Jim Jordan who is saying it like this to Rosenstein, he's like interrogating him very aggressively, you know, and he's like,, well, I'm telling you that I would bet money that we're about to go in there and the house is going to pass something. You have to give us these documents within seven or whatever days. And then it's like, a super partisan Russian bar.

Exactly. As if it's an actual court of law or something that's going to rule on something. It's like, you guys are a bunch of trolls that are going to get together in Vodalong party lines. That doesn't mean shit. Rosenstein's like you guys are a bunch of trolls that are gonna get together in photo on party lines That means shit Rosenstein's like I'm law your politics. Mm-hmm. Don't give a fuck. Yeah, so sexy to wait He helped that down. Oh, yeah Five times more sexy Hearing it was a fun hearing to watch it really what and Christopher raised over there like well, I don't even know

It was a fun hearing to watch. It really was. And Christopher raised over there like, well, I don't even know. Everything they asked him, he's like, I agree with the findings. Right. This happened before I got here. Yeah, seriously. You know, what a thing he inherited. Hey, bye.

Yeah, and to think that I started. Yeah, he's like, I didn't think I would be staring down the barrel of an impeachment for not turning over classified information in an open investigation. You guys are blowing my fucking mind right now. It makes me happy seeing Rosenstein and how strong he is right now. That was incredible him and Grace sitting there just handing their asses back to them.

Like time after time after time. You know, he's like, you know, here is the policy. I can't give you these documents. And then he's like, well, Jim Jordan was trying to say you're hiding information from us. He's like, no, I'm not. It's redacted classified information. He's like, yeah, you're keeping it from us. I mean, he's like, no, I don't redact that. My team redacts that. I approve it and send it to you. He's like, you're the boss.

He's like, yes, I am. I love that. I decide you and your dumb fucking face aren't allowed to see this shit. Yeah. Like an open and ongoing be offensive to the words. Stupid eyes and brain on them. It would be offensive to the words on the page with your stupid eyes and brain on them without me saying. It's perfect. Don't touch my words with your eyes.

Monday, we also learned Senator Warner. He was overheard at a Democratic fundraiser in Martha's Vineyard that if someone he said, get me another glass of wine and I'll tell you things that only Robert Mueller and I know, and then he warned us to buckle up for the next couple of months. And we're going to get into this a little bit later about where I think the trajectory of this investigation is going. Okay. Also, Monday we found out Mueller is getting more evidence from Eric Prince.

I'm not sure if this resurgence has to do with the investigation into the FBI New York Field Office leaks or more about the side group and purchase of social media marketing from Russia, but Mueller's team seized his phones. They all have many phones. I have two phones. I have a work phone and I have a, because the work phone has to be secure because I do send classified information on it but the They have like nine phones. I don't that's weird All the side hustles maybe they have really bad credit. So they have to go get earners all cricket

It's tough out here DC and I'm making much, but he sees the phones and some computers. So this is a sign that Mueller is likely trying to squeeze Prince, right, to get him to rule. Probably to rule on Donald Trump Jr. Kushner, maybe even Trump. I don't know, but this seems like a sign and I think that where this would probably go is a guilty plea with cooperation. Even though Eric Prince is kind of an asshole, I don't know if he's like a man-of-fort-level asshole. That's a hard bar to reach. Scott Steppen released a piece on medium.com with an update to the Cy group story.

He's been tracking that, Julie, so you're going to have details for that later in the shoe. Bloomberg News came out with a piece Tuesday saying that the Mueller probe could overshadow the midterm elections. This backs up our theory that he's working on obstruction now, and I think he will have collusion indictments in the fall. Before the election or during? Kind of during. Yeah, me too. So put some beans on that. That's what we're saying. I think Natasha Bertrand is saying that. The Atlantic is saying it. Bloomberg is saying it. I think collusion, crimes of collusion, whatever, however they look, whether it's conspiracy

or Rico or whatever, whatever those collusion crimes are, they're coming out in the fall, probably September. Wow. That's my thought. Oh. Followed my favorite time of year. I'm going to be so happy. Yeah.

It's nice. You don't have to worry about, you know, the heat anymore. Yeah. And San Diego, the trees go from green to green. Yeah. Nice. You don't have to worry about, you know, the heat anymore. Yeah. And San Diego, the trees go from green to green. Yeah. Beautiful, creative green in the fall. Yeah. And your beach body still has to look the same. Yeah. That is a lot of pressure for San Diego. It's not fair. I get to like, hot year round all these. I'm a seven here. I'm a nine in Kansas. Oh, hey. Yeah. So I think that there could be a round of superseding indictments on Manifort. Anyway, whatever those look like. And the fact that Trump is going to meet with Putin this month, and we'll likely see pictures of the two of them making out probably.

That could play very badly if Mueller is able to indict more Russians and maybe even some Trump campaigns with crimes of cooperating with Russia. This could be bad optics. I don't know how good Trump is at thinking ahead. He doesn't seem that good, but when we find out that he's been working on this relationship with Justice Kennedy for the last however many years, it kind of makes you wonder. And then Russia's been courting him for five to eight years. It's like, does he think ahead? It seems like he's thinking ahead. Could he be a step ahead of me? Probably not. I think Putin thinks ahead and Trump does what Putin wants.

I think that's probably what has to happen. I think you're right. Then on Wednesday, an unsealed warrant application revealed a $10 million loan given to Manafort by Oleg Darapaska. This was one of the warrants that led to the approval to search Manafort's home in that pre-dawn no-knock raid. That's how old this is. The affidavit also showed that Darapaska had financially backed Manafort's consulting work in the Ukraine all the way back to 2005.

That's why the statute of limitations doesn't apply here. And citing the information from a redacted source, basically is how we got this information. Could maybe that redacted source is Vanderzwon gates? I don't know, but somebody close to Manafort was cooperating prior to the Noenok raid on his house because that's how they got the information. So who it was? I don't know, but I'm sure Mueller is already

talking to whoever that is. It could, like I said, it could be Vanders one. He could have already gone jail and gone home. I haven't even been like done with this whole situation. That's so true. I think we deported that guy. And then Trump got Justice Kennedy to resign. And that sent shockwaves throughout progressive and even establishment circles. The New York Times reported a Russian connection. I'll go over that later in the show.

Oh, looking forward to that. It's weird. Yeah, and it really like terrorized way. Mueller filed to sentence Panetta, Panetta, Panetta. No, no, no, no, no, no, Tilda, Panetta. In September, okay, September 7th. Panetta is the American that created those fake identities for the 13 Russians that came to the US and posted

the citizens back in the Trump campaign as part of that country's effort to meddle in our election. So that guy is going to be sentenced in September. I'd one of those guys in college, as much as fake IDs. Oh! I was like, a Russian? Yeah, yeah. It was poorly executed joke. No, it was good.

Another stone aid was subpoenaed. I think that makes three so far that we know of Jordan. You're going to give us info on that. Friday, Michael Flynn's sentencing was delayed another 60 days. Remember, it was 90 days, and then they delayed it again 60 days. And we all thought, oh, they only extended it 60 days. That must mean it's going to be the end.

Well, it's not. They extended it another 60 days. Wow. Take beans off of it. Both parties agreed that the you know, Flynn's lawyers and Mueller, they need more time to provide a status report. The status report was due June 29th, but Mueller and Flynn's attorneys have asked jointly for an extension to August 24th. And then later on Friday, the judge so ordered the status report to August 24th. At that time, Mueller basically will say whether or not he's ready to sentence Flynn or if he'll need more time again. The judge also issued a minute order saying

they needed to file a joint application to request that by July 2nd, which is today. So basically, since we all think that there will be more indictments before there's any sentencing of these heavy cooperators, we could see a lot of indictments in July. Wow. Because they're asking for this report to be due by August 24. That means that what it says to me is it turns this whole case into the rocket docket, which is what we've been talking about. And that those indictments for collusion will probably come out before August 24th.

So when I said the fall, I redact that. August 24th. Interesting. Unless they extended again. They might extend it again. Yeah, yeah. The problem is, is then you run into the election. Right.

So you don't want to be accused of meddling in the election. I was just going to say, what Yeah, yeah. The problem is is then you run into the election. Right. So you don't want to be accused of meddling in the election. I was just going to say, I'm a little bit... because Trimbleers book. Anyway, I don't know, the sentencing of these of these guys could happen before that. I have a picture of the court filing. It will be in the newsletter this week. Jordan, you put together this amazing news letter for us every Thursday morning. Yes. You can get that by becoming a patron at patreon.com slash Mollishy Root. Then we learned Friday that Thursday night, the night before, Manafort wrote an appeal saying, he doesn't wipe it in jail when he wants to go home. He's on a loan.

They did, they put him in solitary. Yeah. That's probably better. That's mentally anguishing. Definitely. And I don't care. Yeah. After that guy.

So yeah, but he wants to go home. Can you imagine just being with your thoughts when you're such a horrible person? That is the torture. That's the point. Yeah, but he's in there all by himself. And his lawyers are trying to say, look, we can't put a case together like this.

We live two hours away, and we have to drive every time we want to meet him. He's like, you know what? You should have thought of that before you witnessed tampered. Yeah. Welcome to the lives of so many spouses across America. Thank you. And like just, you know what? Most citizens, like poor people, brown people,

like everyone that's treated with less like privilege. Yeah. Like, oh, does that suck? Well, it's too bad. Yeah, exactly. Don't even give a fuck. I hate that guy. Oh, yeah.

He's going down. People get angry at me on social media. They're like, I can't believe you have so much hatred and that you want to see people in jail and suffer. And I'm like, uh, it's him. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever seen Inglourious bastards.

But yeah. Yeah. I like it. And he's inadvertently and directly caused a suffering and deaths possibly of many people. Oh yeah. For sure. Yeah.

So fuck that guy. Yeah. I blame that whole campaign for what's going on at the border right now. Yeah. It's anything. I don't even want to talk about what might happen with a new hard right Supreme Court justice. Yeah. We'll get into that after the break, but those are the facts.

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Jalisa you haven't update for us on the Scott Stedman story in Medium about the Sci Group, right? Yes, it is. And if you remember, we thought they were Israeli, but then Scott found out they were funded mostly by Russian money. And now, apparently, he has an additional update. Yep, so, yeah, Scott's the homie. He has a really good article in Medium called Sci Group, Sister Company, controlled by Russian billionaire.

So Sci Group, as we know, is a private intelligence company that met with Trump Jr. Eric Prince and George Nader during the 2016 election campaign. And after a month long investigation into this group, it's been revealed that one of Sci Group's sister companies is controlled by Russian billionaire. So, you know, Mueller is following the money. So the CEO of Sci Group, Joel Zamol, met with Trump's people in August 2016 to pitch their social media strategy to the campaign Right and everybody that's the second Trump tower meeting that we've been talking about there are two now It's not just June. It's August. Yeah. Yeah, that's what one other thing that went down the one with that footage that came out. Yeah Exactly. No, no, no, that's not that one. No, that's Cohen. Oh, they all had meetings at try tower Which is yeah, I get confused too Cohen. No, that's Cohen. Oh, they all had meetings at Tramp Tower, which is yeah, I get them confused too

But yeah, this one is sorry. I should so many Trump's power meetings. I know I apologize But do you remember the first June with Vesalnet Skaya that right? Trump Tower meeting? There's another one just like that just as big with native Prank and and the side group in August August second or third and that also Correlates with when Darapaska was landing and Manafort and Kalimnik were dining. And then he took all that back and Nastya Rybka got the video on the yacht and now she's in jail and the Volny release of tape and he's in jail. So that whole thing kind of happened right at that same time too.

So when you tie it all together, it's mind blowing. Yeah, the whole web is pretty crazy. So the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times reported that after Trump was elected, Nader paid Xaml $2 million. The world died. The end. Yeah, basically. So, supposedly, this $2 million was for an unrelated venture in which another one of Xaml's

companies created a presentation demonstrating the impact of social media and pretty much its impact on Trump getting elected. So Xaml's lawyer, Mark Mukasey said, quote, not only are you treading over ground that has been well-treversed by others to no avail, but your facts are also wrong, you're chasing ghosts. He just talks funny to me. Yeah. And we've heard that before, because we've talked about this particular event. Yes, yeah, and then the subsequent event and then of course

Mukasey going, who you chasing ghosts? Exactly. Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah, and so he also is claiming that thing came out of the Trump Tower meeting So as we know from previous reporting, side groups parent company Protector Limited is registered in the British Virgin Islands. However, we just learned that one of ProTexer's other companies, MGTM Financial Services Limited, is controlled by a multi-billion dollar Moscow-based business association called Metropole Group. MGTM? Yeah, MGTM.

So it's like MGMT, but more stupid. Exactly, it'll be illegal. Exactly, yes, totally. So we're not on hallucinogens. Yeah, and that's cool. Oh, damn it. They might need them, yeah. I need my British Virgin Island shell companies

to be on hallucinogens at all times. Yes, yes. So in 2016 report prepared by MGM confirms that the company is, quote, under the common control of Metropole Group, furthermore, the MGTM website was registered under a Metropole employee, and the two original directors of the company were Metropole COO,

and the head of debt and instruments for them. So basically, there's no denying that. And of debt and instruments? The head of debt instruments. So basically, they controlled the debt. Yeah, yeah Yeah, well, there's there's no denying that Mgtm and Metropolitan were super tight I hate the name of that's bothering me. Yeah, it's really yeah, OCD is angry I know I was thinking the same thing and even autocorrect as I wanted to be Mgtm right

It's all like squiggly. Yeah, yes, quickly read line We should they should rethink that go to Home Depot pick up some paint chips because it wanted to be MGTN. Right, it's all like squiggly red line. Exactly, yes, squiggly red line. They should rethink that. Go to Home Depot, pick up some paint chips, pick a color, and pull your brand. Some are breeze. There you go. Absolutely.

Surf horizon. Yeah. So they're basically, they're the sister company, Opsi Group. And they're an intelligence company that tried to work with Trump during the 2016 election. So all of these roads keep leading back to Russia.

In fact, Metropole is controlled by Russian billionaire named Mikhail Slipenchuk. That's what happens like after you vomit at a party or something. Yeah, he has to be thrown up and slipping it. Slipenchuk. Although a reverse order, I guess it. Oh, it's great. Slip and jack. Although reverse order, I guess it would be chuck and slip. Yeah, there you go. Slip and jack, yeah.

You slip on the marble floor, you hit your head, you vomit. I love it. Slip and jack. That was the most slapstick last name. What's his first name? Mikael. Mikael. This sounds like a great stage name for a command.

Mikael's Lippin' Joe. Yeah. That puts an eye on my face. That dude, and he comes out like a Hawaiian shirt and some cargo shorts. He's like, hey, oh, Slippin' Joe. Just fake sliver around. Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Oh my god. Oh my god. It's the dumbest thing ever. Don't. Oh. That makes me so happy. Oh my god. It's the dumbest thing ever. Don't. Oh. That makes me so happy. There was an old joke by George Carlin called, where he talks about a hotel being called

the Sleep and Fuck. Oh god. And it's got one of those neon signs that's like, sleep, fuck. Sleep, fuck. Sleep and fuck. Sleep and fuck. Sleep and fuck. So when you said slip and chuck that was it immediately

But I thought oh my good funny slip slip Jack slip and Jack slip and Jack Okay, we spent a lot of time on that last night It's fun to be addressed. I'd never heard of it. It's too good to not riff. That's beautiful I hope he's indicted because then we can say it again. Oh, yeah, he'll come up again I hope so it's fun. So, this guy, our new favorite character, he's a government official and member of Putin's political party,

or at least he was from 2011 to 2016. And after Slip and Chucks' offshore empire was revealed in 2016 by the Panama Papers, he decided not to seek reelection. Good call. So, he's still pretty well connected in Russia's business and political world, though. And something else worth mentioning is that the money trail of shell companies associated with Cy Group all come down to the Cypress branch of a company called Trident Trust.

May I take your trip, sir? Yes. Trident Trust is a provider of corporate trust and fund administration services and protector along with 15 other companies is listed under this Cypress branch. So the really interesting thing about this is even though Try it and has thousands of companies around the world, the Cypress branch only accounts for 16 of those companies. And so Muller is looking into all 16 of them because for some reason, public information on them isn't really hard to find. Oh, I wonder what.

Yeah. How come I don't have any shell companies? I feel like I'm missing out on something. You're out of the loop? Yeah. I feel like there's so many. You could probably afford one of them, or I don't know how much they cost. How much is one shell company? It's not how it works. I think you just set it up. I don't think you do they cost. How much is one shell company? It's not how it works. I think you just set it up.

I don't think you do anything. Could you put like a dollar in there? Could I have a shell company? I don't even think it's a bank account. It's a story. I think it's just a, put a DBA in the newspaper and say I'm starting a thing and find a piece of shit shack that you can maybe, I don't know, rent for a dollar a month

or whatever. So you have an address and then a wallet. Yeah, how do you sell shells from it? Being, being mullersh. Sell shells by the seashells. Sell seashells from a shell company. I think mullershie wrote is like actually a more legitimate business. I mean, we should, yeah, just like, doesn't John Oliver always get like fake like

companies just for the irony. He started a super pact. Yeah, yeah. We should do something fun. Because we can mediums, we can do something silly. It's like a stupid shell company. But then all the money goes to charity, right? Yeah, of course. We'll just like somehow wire it back to like, like, Marlon Bundo. Yeah. Like the Marlon Bundo book, the better Bundo book. Yeah, you can use Shell companies for good, right? I think the problem is that they... You can do whatever you want with the money. They use it for like shady stuff.

Oh, that's because you're... Yeah, if you're already that greedy, you're probably not. It's super chill. Okay. So, getting back to it, I mean, it's all of it. But yeah, this particular... Getting back to it, it's all over. It's over. We're fucked. No, this particular branch, this is what particular getting back to it. It's the end. We're fucked.

No, this particular branch, this is what we do know about it even though it's really hard to get information so far we've learned that five of the 16 companies are affiliates or directors of slip and chunks banks or companies. Are there any vowels in there? There's a couple. You got three. It's like playing Willa Fortune like, let me guess. Are there any vowels in there? There's a couple. You got three. It's like playing Willa Fortune like let me let me guess like to buy a better name

Like to use it for a buy a show company you can change your last name. Oh Easily you can be Mikhail summer breeze, right? You don't have to go And I you know a part of me does feel bad for making fun of their name because you can't help your name But also you can buy you technically can you can And you know, a part of me does feel bad for making fun of their name, because you can't help your name. But also you can buy them. You technically can. You can make a difference in your own name. Right. Slippery sounds like something people. Something Saul Goodman would do.

Like something, some sort of like a, when he was, I can't remember what he, he's got so many. That show is so great. I'm sure he wasn't bullied as a child, like he would be in the States. Yeah, maybe not, because that's probably more, because you would be in the States. Yeah, maybe not because that's probably more Because you know, yeah, yeah exactly exactly that and he'll sleep throughout Yeah, that's you So we also know that three of the 16 companies have directors that are affiliates of multiple large Russian banks and we know that

Right, we know that one of the 16 companies use the same We know that one of the 16 companies used the same secretarial service as Paul Manafort and the Cypress branch So Scott goes way deeper into like the previous ownership of the Cygroup and this guy named hamburger and I'm sure he's a fun one You guys just you truly take out this article on medium But the summary is basically the August 2016 meeting and Trump Tower with Trump Jr. Eric Prince George Naderader, and Joel Zamol from Side Group has become a direct focus of Malor's investigation. He even subpoenaed them for their bank records, as we know, and Cypress basically, it's just something that he's really into, because you can't just Google it. And so not to mention that Zamol,

whose companies have previously worked for Russian oligarchs, is currently working with investigators. And yeah, Zamol is also the CEO of Wikistrat. And... Yeah, we all know that because he made working with investigators and yeah, Samo is also the CEO of Wiki Strat and we all know that because he made those business or those business records public which makes sense but it's weird because now people wonder why he would try so hard to withhold his connection to side group so yeah I feel like that's pretty much the just of it yeah the updates are a little side group story.

Yeah, yeah, it sounds like that. Yeah, he found, yeah, Scott said we found a new connection. Yeah, yeah. That was great. Thank you. I yield my time to the chair. Oh, yeah. Maxine Walters is my hero.

Reclaiming my time. Yeah, yeah. Reclaiming my time. I just love watching her talk. She's just like, she's a shame. Yeah, yeah, I dig it. I dig it. All right, well, thank you so much for that.

Of course. And to Slip and Chunk, I'm going to be enjoying that all. Slip and Chunk. Slip and Slide is what I think. That's what now. Slip and Chunk, hamburger and wiki strat. All the words that were in that article. Yeah.

I know when I think of the names that we've been having to deal with, like, cock and pecker and Slip and Chunk now. Yeah, we're doing our best. It's We try it really five again five years old. It's hard. You guys it's really hard Anyway Jordan you have an update on Nixon back right yes, Nixon back Roger Stone I'm bringing Nixon back. I'm in Nickelback. We got two different artists in mine. Yeah, yeah mine's talented true. I do like You openly aren't afraid to like nickel-bath. Oh, same out loud. I'm the same teacher And Creed yeah

I'm not in sync and stay dude. I fuck with some stain. Yeah It's been a while. I feel like I've done that before I'm here. We've done Creed. They sound similar How did I choose you? I mean, it's more because like my dad would just drive me around and blast that shit. Yeah, my mom would play Nickelback. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, sorry. I'm so probably old enough to be your mother. Freaking me out now. So now it's somebody my age who likes Nickelback and creed and stang. Totally. You know what? Let's talk about something more pleasant to me.

Roger Stone. Thank God, yeah. Okay, so Nixon Beck. He has another associate now and to the long-time advisor Roger Stone named Andrew Miller who has been subpoenaed before a grand jury by Robert Mueller and his team. So this now marks the third person that has been subpoenaed in front of a pantry. And they're going to do the same thing that the opposition has been doing basically

to question the validity of the subpoena on the grounds that Mueller was legally unsound and illegitimate in the appointment process. That's pretty much the point of going thing right now is to wait, if you get subpoenaed by Miller or Muller and you have to do something, what they're gonna try to do is they're gonna try to file a motion to say it's all illegitimate

because Muller should have never been appointed in the first place and if he was supposed to be appointed, he's out of his scope. And that's been denied a few times by a couple of judges, so. Yeah, it's the weakest defense. It is like, how many times do you think this is gonna get tried in court? It's like, it's a definition of judges. So yeah, it's the weakest defense. It is like, how many times do you think this is gonna get tried in court?

It's like, it's a definition of insanity trying to say the same thing. And it's gonna come back different. Yeah, and as these judges keep denying it, it's just adding ammo for the next judge to say, it's been denied twice by other judges. And judges are really big on respecting other judges' decisions. Right.

And stop wasting my time. Oh, they're, they, Ellis gets pissed. pissed, uh, you know, as we know. Oh, yeah, definitely. Um, so there's not too much details yet that the New York Times broke the story on Thursday. There's not too much details out as of now when we're recording this on this Andrew Miller guy and any of the explicit details, but, um, basically, uh, this is in the same vein that he's investigating. These other folks, as it relates to whether or not Stone and his team had advanced knowledge of the material allegedly hacked by Russian intelligence.

So that's primarily what's this related to. Miller's lawyer, his name is Paul Kemenar. I'm sure we'll be hearing his name a lot. He's the one that's going gonna try to file that motion and Say that it was an illegitimate appointment of Robert Willer. So absurd makes me laugh and The other two that are now in this camp as well if you remember Jason Sullivan is one that was also subpoenaed He's the social media expert from California hired by stone during the campaign and he recently flew to Washington to appear before Mueller's grand jury. So it's probably looking good.

The prospects of the attorney getting his social media specialist. Okay. We probably know that guy. Yeah. I would be surprised like if he's been to a mic or two. Yeah. You know, it's a little jason. Yeah.

Come to my show. Totally. And then the other guy is John Cacanis. Cacanis. Cacanis. Yeah.anis, that's right. Yeah, Jocca Cannis who worked for Stone as an assistant shocker. Cacanis, they help start a law firm together.

Yes. Here at Slip and Shocking Cacanis, we obviously don't do real work. We don't come to us. Bye. Nice. I'm so sorry, I stepped on your roof. Slip and Shocking Cacannis and Packer.

We should find the best names in all of this whole investigation. Put them all in a pack. Put them together in a lot for a pack. Make some commercial, Joong Joong. Slip and Joke and Cacannis. Where are you from? Can you slip and fall in some vomit? That's the work they're going to have to be reduced to after this is all done.

This is what we do. Slip and fall in vomit cases. Yeah, at least they're gonna have to be reduced to after this is we do is slip and fall in vomit cases Yeah, at least they can sit yeah Do you hear Trump's day and vomit and then slip in it? Come to slip and chuck and caconna So yeah, John cacanas he he worked for so as an assistant and driver He was also subpoenaed to give testimony to Mueller and that was reported by these last month.

So Stone as we know, just a just a refresher aggressive political backer of Nixon and Trump. He was around during the Watergate scandal and he just he's I mean the the walls are crumbling around this guy. He's in trouble as we covered last week for him and Caputo's exchange with Henry Greenberg and Russian with the Maga Hat. Yeah, he looks up fellows, he's laughing weeded here. You were like, it gets you stuff. Yeah, two million. Exactly. They failed to disclose to Congress that they met that character.

And I forgot, they misremembered the whole thing. Yeah, exactly. When I was, yeah. I didn't even think of it until you brought it up. Yeah, I did it. I didn't think of that guy completely decked out and make a mere kid. Yeah, I did. Thanks looking like a freaking idiot.

Russian, he asked for $2 million. It just started. Oh, forgot. Yeah, I forgot I forgot So yeah, we'll see what happens with that My prediction is that their emotion will not go through and they will be forced to appear in front of that grand jury Well, that's your prediction? That is my prediction

But some beans on it Alright, awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Of course. Yeah The scene's on it! Anyway, let's talk a minute about Justice Kennedy and Trump and Kennedy's kid and Deutsche Bank and Russia. So it appears on all accounts that there's something more than just a normal justice retirement going on here. If you've noticed in the past, Kennedy has been a swing vote that usually goes our way. Marriage equality is a good example. He tends to follow the zeitgeist. What the people want, right? The feeling of the time. That's what the zeitgeist is. Time ghost. That's a cool name. That's what that means. Time ghost. Spirit of the time. Holy shit. That's fucking awesome. Yeah, Germans are neat. But recently, Kennedy has been coming down on the wrong side of shit.

Recently, Kennedy has been coming down on the wrong side of shit. Folks like to blame Gorsuch, but it's important to note that Gorsuch's, Gorsuch's, Gorsuch's in Slippinchung. Gorsuch replaced Scalia. And Scalia was always an asshole. Yeah. So it's not like we got a bigger asshole. It's the same asshole in the asshole seat.

Yeah, yeah, same size as whole whole people like to blame Gorsuch, but I I Can't it ease the one that's to me been fucking up recently. Yeah, and he wrote the opinion on citizens Yeah, oh, yes, he sure did He's fucked us in a few a few times in a few ways Something else to note while Trump has been a vocal critic of scotus when I say scotus I mean the Supreme Court of the United States. And the judiciary in general, he has reserved any criticism when it comes to Kennedy. And I think that's by design, so that they could preserve Kennedy's legacy if he were to step down at the end of the most recent session as he was rumored to be considering.

Taking that a step further, the White House warned Kennedy that time was of the essence because of the impending and almost certain blue wave that would hit Congress in November. So as much as Trump's out there, it'll be a red wave, everything's going my way. Right. I'm walking on sunshine. As much as he's out there saying that behind closed doors, he's like, we're gonna get our fucking ass is kicked in November. Yeah. And we need to do this now. He wants to show us sign of strength and I get that, but yeah, he's not just. And we need to do this now. He wants to show us signs of strength and I get that. But yeah, he's not just that.

He wants to do this before we take over Congress so we can block his nomination. Exactly. And as far as anyone can tell, there were no direct efforts to lobby Kennedy directly to resign. And this is not the first time a president has done their level best to create a vacancy

in the Supreme Court. Either way, there was a concentrated yet subtle effort to ensure the vacancy, giving Trump the opportunity to change the essence and direction of the scotas for decades to come. They were thinking long term for sure. That's what the scotas is. Yeah, yeah. I didn't even consider it when they were holding back the nomination when Obama was president. I was like, oh man, this sucks, but I was like, well, it's not gonna. Well, that's why everybody was pissed off

at progressives who refused to vote for Hillary. Yeah. Because, you know, that's fine. And now you're gonna be stuck with a hard right court for the rest of your fucking life. Exactly. Good luck trying to get an abortion. Right.

Good luck trying to get married gay or good luck whatever the hell. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck being brown. It's a whole lifetime, you're so right. And that's one of the reasons, you know, yeah, good luck being Brown. Yeah, you're so right. And that's one of the reasons, you know, I was trying to get people to vote for Hillary because not just because she was a qualified candidate and you know, whatever you think

of her, but the important thing is, is that I, you know, I've got a lot of privilege, but there are people whose lives are depending on the fact that Trump didn't become president. Right. And now that seems to be actually what's happening. I keep thinking, like, if Hillary won, people wouldn't have been like crying for their lives the way that people cry over Trump. Like it's just so many people I know, like,

terrified about a, you know, a Trump presidency, and we're in it, and now we know why. Like if people didn't realize at the time. We have concentration camps for babies. Exactly. Like it's already happening. We're here. In tournament camps. Yeah.

Tender age camps. Yeah. Whatever makes you not break down on television. Like Rachel Maddowell, she's my hero and seeing her like, I know it was like a couple of weeks ago now, but like still like that's, gosh, the fact that this is our reality. No, I mean, I didn't want to offend People that people by oh I do you're saying exactly I thought you're being almost like yeah, yeah, but you're right It's it's not the same as that. It's also terrifying that even and this is where we are already It doesn't have to be the same as that for it to be really shitty exactly. Yeah, I mean Have you guys noticed usually the right hates Kennedy? Usually, he voted a pulled access to abortion, he voted to limit the death penalty, and he voted for marriage equality.

So there's been times conservatives wanted to actually impeach Kennedy, which you can do by the way. So with the announcement of his retirement, it becomes clear why Trump was being so nice to him all these years, and it didn't stop with the niceness, okay. Gorsuch clerked for Kennedy. As did two other picks Trump made for future vacancies, Kavanaugh and Kethledge, not to mention, you know how the Trump White House has been staffing all the lower courts, they are usually clerks of Kennedys. So he's really trying to put his legacy in there to make him feel good about retiring. So what is there

beyond the ask kissing in the quirky nepotism? How about actual familial nepotism? Kennedy's kid. Yeah, I'm curious about that. Justin. Justin. Justin. Justin.

If we're a girl, it'd probably be just this. Oh, just this could be like a jitter-dutchful name. You're weird. My name might be just this, yeah. What kid? I might have a kid. Put it down. What? What. What?

No. This is the same. Hey. Let's pay back for you wanting to put my cat face. True, true. I wouldn't have many times seen you write about that. I know way in shape of my ever ready right now. But please remember you.

You know what you're never ready. I might not ever just keep that in mind. Yeah. No one's ever ready for you. Good point, good point. I wasn't even ready for a dog. So I'm here. And here I have one.

Justin. What's up, bro? Sounds like a douche. He is. He is. Justin spent more than a decade at Deutsche Bank, eventually becoming their global head of real estate capital markets. Oh my god.

No other douche isn't real estate. What ties to Deutsche Bank? Anybody? She's. Anyone? Not Jesus Trump. Sorry. Jesus isn't in a real estate very much. It's Carpenter built his own shit. Right.

Justin was Trump's most important lender in the late arts when the economy crashed 0607 And Trump was on his fifth bankruptcy or some shit. I don't know. I'm guessing some bankruptcy No one would lend him or his family any fucking money except Russia through Deutsche Bank, who ended up giving him well over a billion dollars in loans when no other reputable bank would. And this is just Justin. This isn't Deutsche Bank or Russia in general. This is just Justin. So now is this weird?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Did anything illegal happen weird? Yes. Yes. Yes. Did anything illegal happen here? No. I'm guessing. Not that I can tell on the face of it. There's a lot of conjecture out there about possible squid pro crow or maybe a big payoff to get Kennedy to resign, maybe from the coax. But I don't see that as being something we can rely on as truth at this point. The only thing I think that stands between Trump and a new Supreme Court justice is absolute and unequivocal evidence that would implicate Trump in his campaign in crimes of collusion. Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to get that in time because he's picking, he's

making a pick on July 9th, okay? That's what a week from now. Yeah. I don't understand how, is this like a democratic way of doing things where we say we're going to allow the Republicans to take this in an unprecedented way, this position, and then we'll just watch them take it like we have no power in Congress. That's what it is. Okay. That's exactly what we have. And we have no time. Yeah. And we have no time. Well, anyway, I don't think we're going to get that kind of crime until the fall. Yeah. Yeah. Kennedy retires the end of July Trump said he's going to make his picture. I know. That's a week from now.

McConnell went nuclear on scotus nominations last year, meaning they only needed a simple majority to confirm a justice. So the Dems cannot fill a buster and we have no power in either house to legally stop this. So there's been a lot of you know, we shouldn't be able to make this pick because he's under investigation. Sorry, that's not a rule. They shouldn't be able to make this pick if the Supreme Court is going to be the one that's deciding his case. But was there a rule of rule? Was it a real one that you can't have a Supreme Court pick during an election year? Is that a real rule? That's just what it's not a rule. It's just what McConnell really is. No, that's not a rule, but they had the power in the Congress. Oh, yeah, right. It's just yeah, the haggarcy already with my mind. You have to remember who's in charge,

right? Exactly. So here's what we have to do. I have an idea. Okay. And I know that I was a little less than optimistic. Yeah, yeah. Everyone's like, hey, gee, help me out. Make me feel better. I'm like, you weren't shocked. We're fucked. We can't, there we come. But you know, here's what you have to do. Action, right?

So get a pen. We have to put some senators on blast, including Claire McCaskill, Susan Collins, Bob Quarker, and Jeff Flake. The first two are moderate pro-choice female Republicans. The latter two just hate Trump. Okay, and you get throw McCain in there too if you want, but I don't think he's well enough to vote. Right.

So I don't think he is actually in the mix at this point. So again, Claire McCaskill, Susan Collins, Bob Corker, and Jeff Flake. If we can get two of them to block this, to block a nomination until the election. It'll work. Yes. Oh, well, it does to do that. I'll do that.

Yeah. Hell yeah. So call them, write them, go out to their offices. If you're in Maine, go see Susan. If you know, go to make noise and we have to do it. We have a week to do it. I'm a week to convince them that that McConnell held off the nomination of Merrick Garland for a year because he said he wanted the election was coming up and he wanted the people to decide well

We have an election coming up and if he's gonna stay consistent with that message the people should be able to decide right and He's not in order. He won't. He won't. He won't. But that is what we can tell the corker, McKesco, Collins, McCain, and Flake. Exactly. So get, do, make, right? Spam them.

Calls. Tweets, Storm. Everything. That's how I do. Tweets, everything that you can do. Call it action. You heard it from me. Do it now.

Yes. I assume there will be a lot of argument saying, like I said, a president under investigation should not be able to pick a judge, because the judge may be deciding subpoenas and cases involving the president. And others will say he was elected illegitimately. Trump was elected illegitimately. He shouldn't be able to pick a judge.

Additionally, others are telling me that if it turns out there's a massive disgusting level of illegal activity with Russia We should be able to go back in time and undue scotist nominations. I don't think that's yeah, I don't think that's how it works And I that's never happened. I wish there was a way one of our listeners even suggested changing the number of justices Through an act of Congress and this has happened before a few times, but there's a few things wrong with this act of Congress. And this has happened before a few times, but there's a few things wrong with this idea. Because first of all, you need 60 votes in the Senate right now to pass a law because of the filibuster, which is used every time now. And we don't have that. And we're not going to have it after November. It's mathematically impossible. And even

if we could, those seats, those justices are removed through attrition, meaning you wait for them to retire and then you just don't backfill their seat. So it's not like you get to just, we're going down to seven justices. You will new peck your bags. You've got to wait. You've got to wait until the next two retire and then you don't get to backfill them.

And you just hope that those two are hard-right people and it's not gonna be, it's gonna be Ruth Bagan's Burger. I don't know if this was Putin's plan or just for Republicans, but somebody, like they Bayer-Kinsburg. I don't know if this was Putin's plan or just to republicans, but somebody, like they're all putting their eggs in so many different baskets to ruin their republic. And this is one of the ones that's actually working. Maybe they couldn't do the bands

and they couldn't do other stuff and we caught them with some of the hacking, but this is one of the avenues that they took that they're like, oh, they actually might get this one. And I didn't even personally see it coming. I mean, I remember when we were flipping out over, you know, Obama was president, but I forgot that this one was the one

that was gonna come back to bite us. Just like net neutrality might come back around and we're all just like, yeah, I guess it happened. No, we didn't, honestly, we didn't know. Yeah. I was surprised. And that you didn't wait. And I was a little pissed off by that.

Yeah. Now there is the possibility of impeaching justice. But again, you need to fill a Buster-proof majority, and you also need cause. So don't expect that to be a way. Right. So I'm afraid this is how it's going to go down. Unless, of course, we hit up those four senators,

I mentioned, urged them to block the nomination until the election so we can get back into the majority and control the pick the way McConnell did with Merrick Garland Again Claire McCaskill Susan Collins Bob Corker Jeff Flake John McCain And again, I'm still I'm not sure if John McCain is well enough in passion span And I feel I feel it was you want to say like you want to flood him with protests Don't say get well. That seems awful So call your senators those four don't relent use your voices tell them to block this nomination If anyone else can think of any legal angle that I'm missing hit us up at Mollershi wrote on Twitter

So we can spread the word I'm happy to do it. This is the only thing I can come up with right now And I'm sorry like I was sitting there last night like why didn't I fucking go to law school? God damn it Yeah, well, you know, I want to have that thought yeah It's funny because like five minutes ago I was just thinking that I was like I just want fucking go to law school? God damn it. Yeah, well, you know, I want to have that thought. Yeah That's funny because like five minutes ago I was just thinking that I was like I just want to go to law school So I can just know yeah, we can study it. There's good for everything so you can know what to do. Yeah. Yeah. All right you guys Anyway, sorry. I wish the news was better. Yeah, that's my plan. It's our new slogan. I wish sorry I wish the news was better. Yeah, we'll be right back Are you fascinated by mysterious legends,

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I'm doing well Thank you for having me. So tell us how Rogue NASA got started. Sure. The Rogue NASA Twitter account is the unofficial resistance team from NASA. On day one this administration began removing climate science from government websites and we knew we had to take a stand. If NASA is ever silenced, we will continue to communicate climate change. It's part of our mission which says NASA is tasked with providing the widest

practicable and appropriate dissemination of information concerning its activities and the results thereof. We think what this administration is doing is wrong, and if NASA information is removed or our scientists are told to, stop talking, we will be there for them. Well, I'm glad to hear you'll be for us if NASA is ever silenced. You said you don't agree with what this administration is doing, but what about Space Force? We don't need a Space Force.

Military leaders have come out against it. Astronauts have come out against it. The Air Force already does the job and they do it well. We do need to monitor space junk and there is some cause for concern to our satellites, but we don't need a separate branch of the military to deal with it. And if he is talking about weaponizing space that's an entirely different issue altogether. Well who has any idea what he's talking about, right? So we have a weekly fantasy indictment league here on Mola Shiroit, where we ask celebrity guests, such as yourself, or at least people I consider to be celebrities, to pick three

people they think will be indicted next, like their draft, their dream draft. So who would you pick and why? So while I want it to be someone like Jared, I'm going to say he's ineligible based on his proximity to God Emperor. This leaves me to choose between those who aren't in the White House who aren't family who aren't cooperating and those names I only know. For instance the random Dutch lawyer married to the daughter of the oligarch, I never would have guessed him.

Let's say Michael Cohen is ineligible because technically he is not part of the Mueller investigation. Yet. Let's narrow it down. Roger Stone. Eric prints because he just turned over his phones and laptops so it might be too. Besides, that guy is a Bond villain and he knows how to hide evidence. Carter Page, Flynn Jr., though Daddy probably made that sweet sweet deal to spare the man

behind the worst Twitter account ever, just by previous indictments at least one will be someone we've never heard of before slash are completely not expecting. So I'll go with Roger Stone because he said it himself lately and there's no waynix in junior is clean, Julian Assange for two reasons. One, Roger Stone, and two, Wiki Leaks released the emails, and Carter Page because he's had how many FISA warrants against him now. You don't get that by being a good boy and he probably lied before Congress. All right, so you got Stone, Page, and Assange. I think those are good picks. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the Mueller investigation?

No one is above the law. There are Mueller firing rapid response protests ready to go, so find one near you. If Mueller, Rosenstein, or Hell, even sessions are fired with the intent of getting rid of Mueller, we march. You can get information at act.moveon.org. Well, thank you so much for talking with us today, and thank you for the work that you do. Again, you can follow Rogue Nasa on Twitter at Rogue Nasa. They've been featured on the BBC, CBS, and now Mille She wrote. So have a great week. Thanks again for talking to us. Awesome, right? Yeah. So cool. I know. Now I also want to add to fantasy indictment, League, your Andrew Miller. Yeah.

From your Roger Stoneade that Jordan talked about. So put him down, whoever's keeping track of these, I don't know. If anyone actually has an actual ongoing list of our fantasy team, reach out. I'd love to get a copy. That would be great. I think I feel like people are going through the episodes. And I think if we put a wiki together that we should have on the episode listing, who the fantasy indictment picks are for that week.

Oh, good idea. I'm imagining a table with each episode title, the new stories that are covered and the indictment picks for that week. That's how I'm seeing it. That'd be nice, yeah. All right, you guys ready for sabotage? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. A story was published this week in the New York Times about Rosinstein. Despite, yeah, Snoop Dogg.

Thanks to Asha. Our South Dakota says Snoop Dig. Snoop Dig. Very nice. Snoop Dig. Hey. Despite his awesome South Dakota is fun. Despite his awesome performance on the hill this week in that idiotic emergency session on the House of the House Judiciary Committee, it appears that when Trump forced Snoop

Dag to draft that memo to fire Komi, like firing Komi because of the Hillary, his handling of the Hillary investigation, that actually really shook Rosenstein. According to four people familiar with the matter, Rosenstein repeatedly expressed anger about feeling like the White House used him as a puppet to fire Komi. Now, in public, he shows none of that, right? But apparently behind closed doors, he appeared very conflicted. Now, we all know that House Republicans are trying to impeach Rosenstein by subpoenaing documents, they know he's unable to produce because the DOJ policies disallow the production of classified materials and an ongoing investigation, right? So they're just trying to get him in a position where the president has reason to fire him so that he can

install someone that will impede the Mueller probe. And we've talked about it for months now on this show, the fear of Rosenstein being removed and replaced by someone who will block the Mueller investigation. Exactly. Well, it occurred to me what one of Mueller's backup plans might be. Do you guys remember when we were talking about whether or not Mueller could indict a sitting president? And the guy who wrote the Department of Justice Policy saying that you cannot indict a sitting president said that you actually can, as long as the Attorney General, or in this case, Snoop Dogg, because the attorney general is,

the racist possum has recused. As long as you get permission from the boss, the boss can rewrite the policy. Nice. Right? We've talked about this. Yeah, yeah. This isn't, this part isn't news.

Well, built into that rule is the notion that if Mueller asks the deputy attorney general for permission to indict the president, and Rosenstein says no, or the Deputy Attorney General says no, the special counsel can then release a full report to Congress. And not Devon Nunes, I mean the gang of eight, both parties, okay. And that might be their play if Rosenstein gets replaced. So let's pretend for a minute that the indictments are not handed out prior to the election, giving time to the House GOP to create a pretext for Trump

to fire Rosenstein. And let's say he does. And let's say Mueller still doesn't get his indictments out while Noel Francisco is the acting deputy attorney general. He's the solicitor general right now. He's the guy who went out to dinner publicly with Jeff Sessions and Rosenstein Yeah, and yeah, he's the third in line for that. So he'll be acting and let's say even during that time Mueller doesn't get his shit done Right after all that if Trump does get to install a patsy to run the Mueller investigation I believe Mueller can file sealed indictments leave him on the the docket, then ask the new guy for permission to indict Trump. That person will inevitably say no, and then we get a full public report of his findings.

A mechanism of the current policy that would not otherwise be in place. Wow. I think that's going to be the way she feels today. So I actually, as much as I would rather have Rosenstein continue this investigation it may come to a point where he has to recuse himself because if he's been upset and felt used by the White House like he was made to write this memo for a pretext to to fire Comey when the real reason was the Russian investigation then he might have to recuse himself because he's in witness and if he does that I I feel safe knowing that Muller just ask the new guy, can I

indict Trump? No. All right, cool. And then write the whole fucking report and give it to Congress. Wow. Both parties of Congress. Anyway, put some beans on it. Yeah.

That's very interesting. It is. This is all, this is making me think to what a bummer it is that these things are so nuanced and detailed because the American people do not have the time nor desire generally, you know, I mean our listeners do because we're civically engaged, but like just watching the hearing between Ray Rosenstein and basically the, you know, GOP aggressors, it's like when they present things that face, yeah, they present things at face value, you know, to run the sign like, how can you be overseeing an investigation that's based on you firing?

So, you know, just and it's like people have to really be smart and dig deep for information and think about stuff like, you know, you think about it. And I love the way he said, believe me, if I could recuse myself, I would. I don't wanna have fucking anything to do with this ever at all Trust me sir. I would yeah, yeah, I guess about critical thinking element. That's so important Yeah, that's the rant thank you for wrapping it up. Oh, no worries dude. Yeah, I just I feel like honestly like this is one of the things that like in school

Um, I enjoy critical reading but I sucked at other subjects So I feel like some people are just it was never their thing So they're not naturally watching these videos and be like, oh, I wonder what's going on between the lines? Exactly. They're just gonna take in what they see and be like, oh, I guess it's not even gonna watch it That's too bad. The highlights even if they catch a you know, what he or she or something You're just gonna pick up on the rhetoric that these like Republicans are dragging on like And honestly if they see that clip with Jim Jordan that we played early, I'm fine with that because he got his ass handed to him.

I don't even care what the nuance is on it. You're right, because we know, yeah. Exactly, it's like, talk that guy. He is one of the punchable face guys. Screly, Spencer, who's the other asshole who's face I wanna touch? I wanted a punch gout, are you watching? Yeah, goutty.

All right, you guys, down with the Q&A this week, we have a Q&A this week. other asshole who's face someone. I wanted a punch gout. Are you watching? Yeah. Goutty. All right, you guys, down with the Q&A this week, we have a Q&A this week. Yeah. I missed them. Yeah, me too. We've had a flip it blue segment taken the place of this. And so we did have quite a lot of questions. Sarah Oatman said, quote, since FBI counsel advised struck not to answer certain questions

at the committee hearing the other day, Rosenstein said, quote, if you have a problem with the instructions given, unquote, with that being said, does this mean all of the conjecture around prior witnesses not answering questions to the House Intel could legitimately have been instructed as well? Good question. I think the FBI could have instructed Hope Hicks and Steve Bannon, for example,

not to answer questions in that forum in Congress. And we know that Ted Liu has asked for the transcripts of Strux interview. He's asked for that to be released, and the Republicans are refusing and finding it, meaning the testimony is probably not good for them. And the questions, I mean, I think we heard some people when we were watching the hearing, we heard some of the senators, or the, sorry, the congressman saying that they were upset that struck was told not to answer certain questions. And he wouldn't because they're part of an open and ongoing investigation. I was just going to say, yeah, exactly. It's like legal advice

that they're getting, right? Not like, don't tell them this. Yeah. And when Bannon and Hicks refused to answer questions, they could have been instructed by the FBI or Mueller's team to not answer questions pertinent to an open and ongoing investigation. And I'm sorry, but your president is being investigated right now. So anything that he wants to know is probably not

going to be able to be answered. Irene Rau says she read somewhere that if Dems take the Senate and the House in 2018 and the presidency in 2020, that it would be possible to change the size of Scotus from 9 to 11 Justices, is that accurate and what gives them the mechanism. We talked about this earlier, the number of Justices can be changed by Congress at any time, and they've done it in the past, they just have to pass a law, but you need a filibuster proof majority now, and that would be mathematically impossible in the Senate in 2018.

I'd have to see how many seats are up in the Senate in 2020, but I still don't think it would be mathematically possible. What do you think about that, about doing that, changing the amount of seats? I feel like that's not a good approach. You could add a couple and then appoint a couple. Yeah. Um, to swing the court your way, but yeah, I don't think that that's politically favorable thing to do. I agree. Um, it's it would, although I, I would pull

McConnell's trick on him again, if I had power in the in the Congress, I'd say, well, sorry, um, we're not gonna cause you're under investigation. And that's what I'm gonna say. We're not gonna, because you're under investigation. And that's what I'm going to say. And you can do that if you have the majority. You can say that shit, right? Yeah. I also feel like playing that sort of game and playing that dirty game kind of. We just shouldn't go down that road in that way. Might have to. But I agree. I'd rather not play dirty games, but it also has gotten us nowhere. Yeah. Being going high and being nice and not having a solid, weird authoritarian propaganda

message has not really benefited us in the past. Yeah. Anne Catherine Jones in Sydney, Australia. How do I Australia? She asked where we're getting our info that Trump staff can't get dates. Oh, yeah. Are you looking? Yeah, she asked where we're getting our info that Trump staff can't get dates. Are you looking or? Well, that story came out all over the place last week.

No pun intended. I first saw it. I first saw it. I think in Vanity Fair and I think GQ did one. Yeah, I saw the GQ in. Yeah. So I think somebody linked that on our Facebook page for you as well. Deborah Jones wants to know what's up with Gowdy. What's ever up with Gowdy?

He just sit there and say, finish the hill up. And he's all slouch and he's got his, like, man spreading. Yeah, just a real cocky motherfucker. Disrespectful body language, if I can say that, if that that makes sense and he's just got his he's got his elbow on the desk and he's holding his head and he's got his big old feet craw I don't know yeah it's all rhetoric and and he's complaining about the length of the investigation the shortest investigation we've had by far of any major investigation at least, probably the most efficiently run investigation.

So Mr. Bengazi, Mr. Four-Year Bengazi over here is telling us to finish the hell up on an investigation about Russian meddling, not Bengat anyway. Yeah, I don't know what's up with Gadi. Fuck that guy. Yeah, horrible. Jim Jordan definitely get the award for making me most infuriated and want to punch a face. Gross, right? Good lot was kind of a dick too, especially to the female congresswoman from Jackson Lee. Yeah, when she's like,

can we get an explanation for why we needed an X but I'd just not give them appropriate notice. He just shut her down, so fuck off. He put his finger in her face. Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. Oh my God. I would break that shit off. He put his finger in her face. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh my god. I would break that shit off. Seriously. That's why you should vote for me when I run. Stacey Fuller asked why this administration thinks it's okay to interfere in a federal investigation. The only answer

I have is there's no other option for them right now. Muller's got them dead to rights and they don't have any other way out and they have no good defense. Have you noticed how quiet Rudy's been lately? Yeah, that is true. It's weird, right? But his job was to come out and just force a bunch of false negative rhetoric about Muller's probe, the investigation, branding it a witch hunt, and it's working. The approval rating for the Mueller investigation has gone from 48% to 41%. And I think 59% don't even realize

that we've had any convictions. Not Jesus. And or indictments. Right. 89 felony and died. Felties. Oh my God. 22 indictments. Five guilty, please.

Actually, I think we're up to six. Anyway, there's probably like 10. We just don't know. Lee Berdick wants to know why we aren't fighting a Trump's go to disappointment based on the sound reasoning that a president under criminal investigation should not get to a point a judge. I agree with you, but there's no law that says he can't, and we don't have any power in the Congress. Again, like I said, if we had the majority in the Congress, if we can get those four senators to get us through to November, and we can flip the Congress, then we can say, no, you know what? We don't think it would be right for you to appoint a judge that will eventually have to decide maybe a subpoena case in your Russian collusion

situation. Seriously. And it's also like, let's say that we could go back and retroactively, you know, rescind the Supreme Court Justice nomination because he gets found guilty. It was confirmed by Congress. So I think because of that reason alone, they wouldn't do anything. Yeah, yeah, I could see that. Let's see. Greg Ne, he wants to know how many shopping days until Christmas? Let's see. Greg Nayy wants to know how many shopping days until Christmas. One, you have one day to buy your muller sheet wrote live tickets, and then you can get your hands on all of our merch, including men's and women's shirts. We have sex tea justice calendars. They make a nice gift.

Stickers Polonium tea. I'm sure there's other stuff we'll have too, but you have one day, just so you know. If you can't make it out, you can shop at our online store right? mullershearup.com. Part of the proceeds from our patrons also go to swing left to help flip congress blue so check that out. Ian Palmer wants to know if I know where he left his wallet. Yes. He left it at the store. Brandon Potter at B.P.O.T. comic says, quote, are the dumb's going to be punk ass bitches with the next SCJ?

Or are they going to do everything they can to stop this at least before November's election? Again, it's hard not to be a punk ass bitch when you're in the minority. It's just hard. I think we've gone over. I think we've answered this. But like I said, best thing you can do is flood McCaskel flight, Corcoran Collins with phone calls.

Those are our foremost likely to block any hard right, hard right nominee. Yeah. I do feel like too if Trump wants to get someone in there, he's going to have to pick someone that's more moderate because if it's too right, they're too right I don't know if that would go through it might take longer and then good yeah pick a hard writer and see yeah I hope he picks a ridiculous person oh gosh I don't want to say that about that. At Pat Stowe says, quote, taking into account that he's meticulously systematic, how far along would you say we are into the Mueller investigation, middle and dish?

Well, the FBI and Biproxy Bob Mueller, they don't interview the subject until the very end. If you remember, I don't know if you're part of the MSW book club, but when they were doing the Hillary email investigation, they interviewed her on July 2nd, and they made their finding speech on July 5th, and they investigated for a year. So the fact that they're ready to interview Trump and they have been for like a month now, I think is indicative of where we're at the end. I think I'll have his obstruction portion done here in July, and then there will likely be indictments for crimes of collusion in the fall, or maybe even before August 24th, which is when they have

to come up with that minute order that the judge put in. That's where I think we are, and that is total conjecture. It could be next year, dude. I don't even, but that's my, that's based on the, what I'm seeing. I think we're at the end. Yeah, it does seem like I would, I would say this is totally pulled out of my ass, but like 75%. I think there's a little bit longer to go. In other tendrils, right? Yes.

Right? Because there's so many, and there's so much that we don't know. Every, I have to say this, every single time. Oh, we talk about this What we know what we're reporting to you is like probably less than one tenth of one percent one Tent of one percent of the top wealthiest people. I just went on a burning right Seriously tiny tiny fraction of what is actually known and we're usually four to six months behind Muller When we report this shit, it's shit that he did six months ago. Yeah, totally. Please keep that in mind. What we know is that we know nothing. Yeah. At MK Gulada wants to know what are the chances that judicial appointments can be revoked if

criminal charges are brought against Trump. I doubt that's likely at all. Criminal charges were filed against Clinton and he was impeached and they did not revoke his pick of justice buyer. So you can have Congress and Pete justice, like I said for cause, but you have to have the majority. Well covered ground, I just don't think it's feasible. Dezi or two source underscore, E underscore, PP tape.

As if we're sure, if we we're sure nothing has been leaking from Miller's team because he hears quote people familiar with the investigation cited all the time as sources. I think these are witnesses that come out from the grand jury process and talk. Unless they're gagged they're under no obligation not to talk. I was yeah I was gonna say what are how do you know what the process is to issue a gag order on someone other than just Assuming them one. I think he probably has it at the ready when they're in the room. Okay, and he says, all right This is what you can't talk about have a nice day. I'm gassed. I'm so guessing right

But that's how if I just picture molar operates like he has everything lined up. Yeah, I wonder if he strategically is not Issuing gag orders to certain people. I've we've talked about that. Yeah, I think I feel like that that could be a possibility. Yeah Cast smiley wants to know upon hearing that 45 gets to pick another judge. How do you unshit your pants? Time travel You're gonna need the omega 13 I've never heard or I've never even thought of unshitting your pants that's so funny. It just, yeah, I'm sorry.

That was really, I'm just that's first. That's the only way it could happen. That's me. You did a funnel. Oh man. But chug stuff, I don't wanna talk about it. I don't wanna talk about it. Let me talk about it, Cass.

At science versus Trump asked, what the fuck is going on with Kennedy's son? This is the same question that was asked by at cruising donkey two. Don't know what that's about. At reading Kendra Antigone, which is at a NT1 underscore G0NE. They can make it more complicated.

I love the name Antigone. Yeah, that's a really cool name. Karen Rasmaz and at Rask, Karen Rasm. All these people wanted what the hell is going on with Justice Kennedy. And like I said, rewind, scroll up. Yeah. It's bad. It doesn't look good.

Yeah. Jennifer Long asked if we think Trump Putin Summit, the Trump Putin Summit is a cover-up for helping coordinate the election in the fall. No, I don't think it would be upfront like that. Yeah, that's a little bit too obvious. They have like 97 back channels, so they probably are using those. That's true. That's just a front door approach, maybe.

Right, like, well, they shut down on my back channels. What am I supposed to do? Yeah, no, I think that's a little overt. I think so too. I am sort of surprised though that they're doing that so soon and in the midst of all of this. It's actually, like I said, the optics could be really bad. If they get all these pictures of Trump and Putin hanging out together and then it comes

out that some sort of crimes of collusion and conspiracy indictments come out before the election, which I think they will. That's gonna look really bad. Yeah, for them. I'm fantasizing the morning we wake up and see it on the news that he has charges against the forecollusion and conspiracy. I know. Finally, at all things Mueller asked, how Jalisa is the best hype woman in the world and if he can hire her? No. is the best hype woman in the world and if he can hire her. Oh, no. No.

I don't know. Do you have any spare time? It's so time consuming. It's very sweet, though. She is the best hype woman in the world. You can't have her, at least not for muller stuff. Anything else, though. I mean, of course, I don't know your life, I'm not in charge.

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