Jack - Manafort Slapped With Superseding Indictment

Episode Date: June 11, 2018

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$100 million on a residential building in New Jersey that's partially owned by the Kushners. The $100 million went toward the $184 million loan from city group back by cutter that they lent the Kushners after they met with Kushner at the White House. Shortly after that our policy on cutter took a 180 back to supporting them after having shided the entire country around the same time they had refused to loan the Kushners any money. Our base in cutter house is the forward headquarters of the U.S. Air Force Central Command combined air and space operations center in the 379th Airborne Expeditionary.

We have over 11,000 troops stationed there, so I thought it was 8,000, but I checked it out because I worked for the government. All right, then Monday, Trump said he can pardon himself. That sounds personal. Donald? Yeah. Yes, our president, after leaking, that's conjecture. That 20-page letter to the press that his lawyers wrote to Mueller that hinted that maybe he could possibly pardon himself, which also said he can't obstruct justice because he's above the law. He went full-king George III Monday and said he can pardon himself.

Not even Nixon went that far. In fact, I read Nixon asked if he could pardon himself, and when he was told he couldn't, he resigned. Exactly. When asked about this, Republican Senator Chuck Grassley said, if I were the president and my lawyer told me I could pardon myself, I'd get a new lawyer. So, right? Thanks, Chuck. What the fuck, Chuck? The OIG hearings, Office of Inspector General Hearings, on the report that the Department

of Justice IG did on the 2016 election were supposed to take place last Monday but have been rescheduled to take place today as you're hearing this June 11th, Monday, with the full IG report due out on June 14th. We have an entire bonus episode out today for our patrons that goes over the five major areas of the OIG report and the hearings. And they will cover Comey's press conference about Hillary emails 11 days before the election.

The letters he wrote to Congress about Hillary emails, whether McCabe should have been recused from the Clinton probe because his wife was taken DNC money when she ran for Congress. And you should check out our bonus episode on Jill McCabe if you haven't. So good. And FBI leaks during the campaign.

So after the postponement of the hearing, we learned that McCabe's attorney had asked for immunity for his forthcoming testimony in the hearings. And the proffer seems to be emails between McCabe and Comey showing that McCabe did inform Comey of the Weiner laptop earlier than previously thought. It's normal to ask for immunity in a Senate hearing when criminal charges have been referred on you to the Justice Department as they have in this case. When the IG report comes out, I'm predicting it will say that Mikaib did tell Komi there will be email proof that he told Komi in early October and they decided to sit on it and not do the investigation because if they found anything they could have been forced to update congress and they didn't want the FBI to sway the election. But they couldn't wait any longer when leaks were eminent from the New York field office and the reason Comey and McCabe hasn't

said anything or told us all this is because it would have given the New York field office and the FBI a black eye for leaking like a sieve. So they were trying to protect the election, follow the DOJ policy, and protect the reputation of the FBI by keeping a lid on the leakers in New York. Now keep in mind, they may not reveal the leaks from the New York field office in this report to protect the FBI, but keep an eye out for more findings. If you remember in episode 27, the IG found an FBI agent had leaked lied and mishandled information, but they decided not to bring criminal charges.

Do you guys remember that? Yeah. And I was like, oh, him or her could be her. And then as I'd know, his, it's a guy. That's how I would remember that particular story. But there were no other details on it. I wonder if that guy was from the New York Field Office and is part of this investigation, because the report comes out on the 14th. 14th.

Wow. If Bernie Sanders thought he was sick of hearing about the emails in 2016, yeah, I imagine how he's running again. He's running again. And this could completely ruin Comey's reputation. If you, after this hate Comey and just take a black X, put it on X over his face and counter, I still believe he did the right thing. Although, of course, I am open to having my mind changed when I see the IG report.

Because I do trust Horowitz and the IG. This is no Bama pointed IG, but just like, you know, I've had these arguments with Republicans and Trump supporters about the Mueller findings. Every time I talk about the Mueller investigation, they're like, what about Bernie? What about Hillary? What about Obama? I was like, if he indicts any of them, I will accept those findings. You on the other hand will not accept the findings

on Trump regardless. Right. So what do you say, fair trade? Like, will you accept the findings of Mueller if I accept the findings of Mueller? And then they just go, you're fat and ugly and then the whole conversation has to end. Right, right.

I'm a medium, by the way. I'm a size eight. Right, right. I'm a medium, by the way. I'm a size eight. Let's see. Trump tweeted Monday that Bob Mueller's investigation is totally unconstitutional and Giuliani told the Huffington Post that the president cannot be indicted and that he could pardon himself. And then just days after the Parkland students graduated, Giuliani said Trump could shoot James Comey and he wouldn't be indicted because he's a president. Wow. That's how above the law they think they are.

Sarah Sanders ducked all the questions about the president pardoning himself and about why she lied previously when she said the president had not dictated the New York Times response on Air Force One, on behalf of Donald Trump Jr. that Trump Tower was about adoptions. Yeah. She lied about that and then she wouldn't cop Tower was about adoptions. And she lied about that, and then she wouldn't copped relying about it. And she whined about it. Yeah, and then she's like, I'm just pulling me.

You guys are attacking me. And then she said, I have more frankly, I have more credibility than the media. That's right, I remember that. I want a lot of YouTube smokey eye videos, okay? I'm doing my best. She does a good smokey eye, I'll give her that. Hey. With the ashes of the lies.

Mm-hmm. Machila's credibility for most of us a few weeks ago, well, a long time ago, but especially a few weeks ago when she admitted she's given out false information, so I'm not shocked that she would duck all these questions. The special master, Barbara Jones, doggedly reviewing all the documents in the Cohen case has released her findings. Yes. doggedly reviewing all the documents in the Cohen case has released her findings. Of the 12,543 pages of hard copy materials, 14 are protected by attorney client privilege. And of the 291,770 digital items from the two phones and his iPad, 148 are privileged crap.

I can't believe they legitimately went through all of them. Yeah. Do you think she would tell us if one of those digital files might perhaps be a video of a particularly a really chained variety? That sounds like attorney clan privilege to me. Oh, wouldn't. No.

Well, yeah, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, yeah, that sucks. They can't say anything about the nature of the documents, huh? Yeah, not until the 15th or what? The of the the one that I protected yeah, yeah, no No, not even not even soon the Prashecution public won't find hope so Yeah, that's what I'm I hope someone leaks the leaks, but those are attorney client privilege and yeah, and I was kidding When I said the p-tap is protected by attorney client. It's definitely not it is definitely not thank you for

Fairfax doubt I'm very gullible. See, because it's a customer. Unless one of the prostitutes was a lawyer and they had gone into a retainer before the P happened. Interesting. Although, you know what, I think if I were running for anything, I would only hang out with lawyer prostitutes. Yeah.

If you're going to have lawyer friends, why not? That's such a good idea. You know? You've got nothing on us. What are you trying to say? Yeah. They seem like pretty fun people. I can do it all.

Like the party. Now, in a follow-on story to this, Trump's legal team filed a motion that the court allow them to file all their objections to the evidence under seal on ex-parte, meaning in private and that the government can't see it, prosecutors can't see it. And remember they had to file all their objections by June 14th or 15th. On the state 15th.

15th, yeah. Well, Judge Wood came back with a decision this week denying Trump's lawyers requests, saying Trump has to publicly file his objections, except the parts that come from the actual documents, of course, and that can be X part A and sealed. But his objections have to be filed publicly. Sorry, have a nice day. Sorry, sorry, sorry. There's news out this week alleging that pop it up

may have been in Israeli spy. Jordan, you have more on that later? A lot's more. Yeah, that's crazy. I have questions. That sounds tinfoil-hadi, but wait. Yeah, you just wait. We should sell tinfoil hats as merch.

It's just a roll of Reynolds wrap, really. Alex Jones you. You're gonna go for it. Yeah. Oh my god That'd be so fun. I love it. We have a little tree on the inside Like the Hershey's kiss. Oh my god Raptin more foil. Yeah, our Hershey kiss is also a conspiracy. There is grilled corn I love that we're we beat him sometimes in the charts. Yeah, I think we are the progressives on kind of the far left not crazy. We are the Alex. We are the progressive Alex. Jones. No, no, but I think we also we help Mueller seem more like tame. We're not as crazy as Alex Jones is for his people, but we are kind of like in our own little casual

world of being honest and we're like, you know, forthcoming about about how we feel like. Right, we are constrained by by moderate mainstream media work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think anyone listens to us and they're like, oh, that's been much. I got to scoot over to the right. Right. Right. We had all of that out. We ended out the crazy. No. All right. So let's see here Wednesday. Paul Ryan came forward and joined Trey Gowdy and other Republican members of the Senate Intel Committee including Republicans Burr and Grassley calling Trump's spy gate a load of crap basically That one vertebrae for Ryan

Just one a tiny one. Yes, that's it was shrouded in a bunch of bullshit. Don't get me wrong You have to dig through a giant pile of shit steaming heaping pile of shit to find that one golden nugget of truth but it was in there and you know that CNN commercial whether this is a pile of bananas somewhere hidden inside is an apple I just feel like you should have like a Paul Ryan commercial where this is a giant steaming pile of horse shit hidden inside somewhere is the truth I love it do you want to find it or do you not care it They are to discern because it'll still wreak a feces. So hard to get. So then Thursday

Trump tweeted that spies were used against him as early as December 2015, but it turns out he got that from a right-wing conspiracy tweet and it's been debunked. And then more Republicans have jumped on and said spygate has no basis in reality, including Jeff Flake and even every single member of the GOP of the House Intel Committee except for one. Oh, guess who? My boyfriend.

I was gonna say, Jordan, get your man. Get your man. Devon Nunes. Oh yeah, did I mention, I was all by myself. All by myself. So the Republican dominoes are starting to fall, but I think Nunez is about to get in some pretty hot water. If you guys remember a couple months ago, someone leaked text messages between Senator Warner, the Democratic Co-chair, the Senate Intel Committee, and a Russian firm linked to Oleg Darapaska. And it turns out that Warner was in touch with this Russian guy to get in contact with Christopher Steele. While sources on the Senate Intelligence Committee suspected that Nunez and his staff were behind the leaks. And remember, Congress can impeach one of its own.

So keep an eye on that and vote because we need to flip it blue. We had a shitty turnout in the primary, if you guys. 14.6 in San Diego, right? Really? I saw like 20. Oh, OK, maybe I checked it a little too early. 21, 24 anyway. Yeah, all the provisional ballots probably bumped it up.

For sure, yeah. In our county. But fortunately, we pulled it out and our our jungle primaries didn't fuck us We have a Democrat on every ticket in every house race in the state We were afraid we're gonna get shut out of a few of them because the way the California primaries work is the top two Go through whether they're Republican Democrat exactly green party whatever top two vote kidders go through I was surprised that our governor, I thought we would have,

I would thought it would be via Ragoza and Newsom. I thought we would have two Democrats at the top of the governor's ticket. We got cocks got in there. Yeah. Some cock. Cocks. That's the way it's always looking.

That's the way it's always looking. Yeah, always looking into the wrong race. Looking cock. Looking cock. And this is why we get tweets that are like, I wish there wasn't as much cursing. Yeah, we have a few kid listeners. I didn't expect.

We talk like street trash, it's fine. But we're very educated. And it's been proven that intelligent people swear. That's true. Yeah. Let's see, also Wednesday, Buzzfeed released a report that Ivanka was in on other, was in on the other Trump tower, the second Trump tower.

And Jalice is going to go over that for us more in the show. Definitely. I'm sorry. No good. The secret one that we kind of just recently learned about. Exactly. Yeah. The second one.

And I couldn't help but notice to borrow a phrase from Murdershi Road. When Fusion GPS hired steel to find out why Trump had all these real estate deals in Russia that never actually happened, that perhaps maybe the Kremlin was keeping Trump on the hook with the promises of a Trump tower Moscow, but just letting it go once they got what they wanted and then they'd promise him another one until they got what they wanted and let it go. Kind of like when the Russian spy ring said they targeted Carter Page in 2013, because he says stupid,

and they said we would make promises and exchange for information that the ones we get the documents, we'd tell him go for himself. It may have been like that, because that's what Fusion GPS, a charged orbist or Christopher Steel with. Go find out why he's starting to all these deals

and never got them. That's weird. It's very sketchy. It must have been dangling carrots and then getting what they wanted and then taking them away. Putin's definitely smarter than Trump. This is still the just the fact. I think that's objectively known.

Putin is smart. And Trump is vulnerable. Putin is at least diabolical. There you go. Yeah, ruthless. ineffective. He's fucking been in there forever. Yeah, and we'll be till he dies. And they targeted Carter Page because he's stupid. He's got a lot of easily, he's easily compromised. And he's got a lot of real estate. Well, Carter Page was doing energy investing. So if you're

So if you're, you know, Russia and you want a stupid, easily manipulable, possibly blackmailable guy, who you gonna call? Go to PAGE. Go to Spusters. Yeah. Go to Spusters every time. I love it. We should make a, or someone please make a movie poster of Carter Page and Pop-A-Dob, all the vulnerable ones. No, it's, it's, it's Mueller, Komi and oh there the ghost bus. A. G. D. R. Trump is the ghost. He's a big doughboy and the bitch with the flat top. Yeah, you know, Zool totally. Yes.

There is no day no. Oh, I love it. Well, Zool's a gatekeeper of gozer. We'll work it out, but this has got to happen. Yeah, this is actually a key master. But this has got to happen. And then, of course, I was a curious solid. But she was, she was, yeah. Yeah, this is great. If it's really good, I might print it out, post your size,

and put it on my wall. I was gonna say, if we made that a thing, I would put it on my wall. Hell yeah. Then we learned that Mueller asked witnesses to hand over their phones, so he can check out their WhatsApp and Dust accounts. Probably triggered by the discovery

of Manafort's witness tampering when he used WhatsApp to get in touch with Columnick and then sent it to tell the guys over at the PR firm that I didn't lobby in the US because I didn't register over here. As a foreign lobbyist, yeah, thanks. So, I'm always like, everybody hand over your phones, I'm checking your WhatsApp, I'm checking your WhatsApp.

I'm checking your dust accounts. So, the witnesses actually turned over their phones without incident, probably realizing if they did not, they would face a subpoena. For sure. But then, Sean Hannity got on Fox News and told all the witnesses that they should, quote, smash their phones into its abit'sy pieces.

So, some believe that Hannity can actually be charged with obstruction of justice for the students. From one of those with obstruction of justice for one of those people. I'm definitely one of those people. And he's also represented by Cohen. Or was that one time? He's desperate is what it is. And if he's indicted, I think he will fold faster than a Fox News sponsor. I think he will flip over and be like, oh Uncle, oh Daddy, don't hurt me.

I'll tell you whatever you want to know about Trump. You know it. Anyway, yeah. Daddy Mueller.'t hurt me. I'll tell you whatever you want to know about Trump. You know it. Anyway, yeah. Daddy Muller. Big Daddy Muller. Then it wouldn't be news if it didn't include Avonotti. He came out with a new lawsuit from Stormy Daniels alleging her ex-lawyer was in Cahoots with Cohen and Trump to control both sides of the hush money payouts.

The lawyer's name was Keith Davidson and we reported on this in episode 24, two months ago. No bigs. No, no, no, no, let's check out that clip, huh? It sounds to me like Davidson and Cohen had a deal together and they might face RICO charges, that's racketeeringering charges because that's a racket. Then Friday they announced that Cohen is now a target in a criminal investigation, which is more than Trump is. Trump's just a subject. I'm just a subject. I'm not a target. I love being a subject. I love subjects. They're so great. They're so fantastic.

I'm the best subject. The greatest. So that could be huge, you guys. That's a big deal. And then Giuliani, in appearance in Israel, said that Stormi Daniels can't super damages because she has no reputation to protect and that porn stars don't have class or stature and don't deserve equal consideration under the law. He went on to say that any feminist who supported the adult film industry should turn in their credentials. But said nothing of men like Trump who pay women for sex then pay them off to have abortions and then shut them up with hush money and then watch porn and then

cheat on their wives when they're home with their seven-month-old kid. And anyway, yeah, I was going to go from there. You nailed that. I think we should just give a collective eye-roll to that whole statement. I mean we can't even like you list all the reasons why I type of critical But I truly believe that someone like him wouldn't even see it and then if you go through Giuliani's client list Mm-hmm. He has represented a lot of fuck face. Oh, I don't even want to hear it. Are you a fuck face? Call me Rudy Giuliani. I'll fuck your face I'm sorry, but first get in touch with Essential Consultants LLC.

It's a fucking essential. It's a fucking racket, you guys. Oh my goodness. So anyway, in response to the backlash to what he said, Rudy said, quote, maybe I'm old fashioned. You think, you know, did you plant the redwoods? Oh my god. Like, what the fuck are you even talking about?

And I don't understand this whole feminist movement that's against sex workers. Right. I don't get that out of them. It's like Blacksford Trump. Sorry, I have to say it. That's just, it blows my mind. It's weird.

How the New Kanye, Julisa. New Kanye, yeah. I miss the old Kanye. Although I will say, I met New and like not the, sorry, sorry, yeah. Absolutely. I will say though that when Kim Kardashian went into the president's, yes, sorry. Absolutely. I will say though, that when Kim Kardashian went into the president's office and told him about Alice,

that was amazing. And then he pardoned her. That was amazing. It was. It got me thinking, what if Kanye has just been stroking his ego as a ploy this whole time and then send Kim in? Ooh, Kanye is.

I still don't think he's that smart. Probably. Okay, you know what, you're probably right. I would like to think he is. I'm also a dick, though. So you got to have bad words. You never know, you never know. I think he might be really smart, but not what you're probably right. I would like to know I'm also a dick though So you got a bad news you never know I think he might be really smart But not as smart as I think like I think he's smart enough to pull something like that off because it's just sucking up to someone Who who likes to be sucked up to I think Kanye saw he recognized and then and then Trump decided he was gonna

Pardon Muhammad Ali whose conviction was overturned in the 70s, right? I mean, is it I'm sorry? Isn't he also waiting for your exoneration? Jimmy Carter's pardon was stupid. Mine's better, my tremendous. I'm going to pardon everything including his haircut. I didn't know that people got pardoned. I think that's kind of interesting. Yeah, pardon everybody.

It's just a clear their name. He's going to pardon Pontius Pilate. Wow. That's a really bad joke. I'm just like, I got to Google them when I get home. I was like, I got a coyote. That's a really bad joke. I'm just like, I gotta Google them when I get home. That's the guy, that's the guy who killed Jesus. Oh no. Or somebody was like pardon Judas.

Yeah. For another 30 pieces. That's something like that. That's just messed up. He got something out of this. I know those people exist. Anyway. Yeah, here old fashioned Rudy.

Really, really, really old fashion. But at least you're denture stand. We can't do that for our president. I'm so old fashion. I'm racist. Yeah, I had a joke like that. Like, calm me old fashion, but I don't like black people. Basically, that's what it means. My favorite is Whitney Cummings did a roast of Joan Rivers and said that her vagina is so old. It has a separate entrance for blacks. Oh my god. Dude, I love winning comics. I love comedy. I love women and comedy.

That's a badass. Yeah, she's fucking badass. She works hard too. That in my second favorite was when Betty White was roasting, was at the roast of Bob Saga. And Bob Saga is from Full House. Yes. And her opening line is, I'm not here to roast Bob Sagitt. I'm here to fuck John Stamos.

Oh. I love it. Uncle Jesse was hot. Oh my gosh. I think Bob Sagittas had to cut it out. The Department of Justice has decided to show classified documents related to confidential informants used by the FBI

to contact members of the Trump campaign to the gang of eight. They've already done this, but they're doing it again. This review is supposed to take place this upcoming week, so we'll keep you informed on that. Okay, then a bunch of crazy shit went down Thursday night. First, Adam Schiff, Schiffledust, we've got him in our sex-agjustice calendar, wrote a letter to Nunez demanding he release all the HIC House Intelligence Committee interview transcripts. No reply as of yet.

And a court document was released in Broides case this week. Judge ordered the disclosure to the court of who was working in our country on behalf of Qatar. And this was all happening as key figures in the Gulf crisis severed ties with that country. Joey Allaham, a Syrian-born businessman who had been helping Cutter invest to Curry favor with American Jews, has condemned Cutter and cut ties with them, condemning them as a threat to the Middle East peace process. This all went down as another Cotari agent named Nick Mousin,

who's a former advisor to Ted Cruz. Cruzin also cut ties with the monarch, and Cruzin, I know that's so dumb. Al Ham says he has nothing to do with the court case, but the judge has ordered him to comply with the subpoena anyhow. So we'll see what happens there. That's a weird side story.

That could be huge. I feel like I'm glossing over it, but that is probably gigantic. They usually come back around. Yeah, so put beans on it. And then some big news dropped about a Senate intel staffer named Wolf, a 31-year veteran. He was arrested for leaking classified information to the press. Earlier in the week, the Senate voted unanimously to assist the Department of Justice in the

investigation by passing a late day of resolution to hand over any documents they had on Wolf. And we found out that the Department of Justice had been poking around in the New York Times in a New York Times journalist's phone and emails for the past year to build their case. And that kind of cracked down on leaks actually began under the Obama administration. But the Justice Department under Obama decided it was improper and wrote policies saying it was a violation of the free press. So this Justice Department, this one, sessions, or race is possible, would have had to go

around that policy in this case in order to, you know, watch her for a year. And which sessions can do if he wants, kind of like how Rosenstein could circumvent the justice policy saying you can't indict a sitting president. Yeah. There's a lot of speculation saying that this was

a political move, but the Senate voted unanimously to cooperate. The full Senate, not just the committee, fully 100 to nothing or 98. I think there's people missing. Where are these two people? Uh, John, I think I think is sick. Oh, no, I'm so sorry. Yeah, dick. Um, I feel if the, I feel if this were political, you guys, there would have been a party line vote.

Like I feel like if this were a true intrusion of something terrible or fucked up that the government or AG sessions was doing that the Democrats would have voted against it. You would see this split, they'd have lost, but they would have voted against it. Right. But journalists are seething about it,

calling it a violation of freedom of press. Interesting. I need to get more information to figure out where I stand. Exactly same. Is there a bee in here? I think it's just a good old house fly. A little motherfucker get away from my wife. Yeah, drink up, man.

He's drunk now. Yeah, he's a Russian. I was just gonna say that there's a Russian fly. Yeah, a Russian fly. Flygate. Oh my god. Okay, I might kill it. I might have to give it some

Pallonium tea. Yeah, I'm gonna it. I might have to give it some polonium tea. Have a tea party. Like shit poison in our wine. Ooh, all life is sacred. It's always poop. Yeah. Just checking. All living things, that's a definition of a living thing.

We're all guys pooping children. You have to breathe and eat and shit. That's what defining all attacks is, I guess. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, while simultaneously calling our allies national security threats and slapping tariffs on them. That sounds insane, so I'm going to repeat it. Then on Friday, Trump-demanded Russia be added back to the G7 while calling our allies assholes and taxing the shit out of them. Thank you for repeating that. It did take a minute to process. Honestly, I don't know what to think of this besides like this is the most obvious

proof pointing towards Trump being Putin's puppet. Yeah, his is bitch. Yeah. And then I mean, who would be more happy that the G7 is unraveling? Russia was kicked out for annex and Crimea a couple years ago. Exactly. They're like, nope, you can't be in our club anymore. And then Trump blamed Obama for that. He's blamed Obama for everything.

But he has to go point. Yeah, he has to news. And then it blamed Obama for that. He's blamed Obama for everything. But he has to get some news. And then it's just insane. And then when he was leaving, Trump left early. First of all, he showed up late at the equality breakfast. Just walked in. And finally, fucking asshole. What a great message. What a great message.

Equality procrastinate. And it was a gender equality breakfast. So there's all these women, and there's great pictures online of it too. Trump's walking in late, pulling his seat out and all these women are looking at him like, oh, you fucking kidding. Yeah, I thought you guys were all going to be late. We were really happy thinking, we were going to make up in the bathroom.

We were happy thinking you weren't going to come. This isn't, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, a bunch of agreements and they're gonna work together, they're gonna try to solve these trade issues and they're gonna be partners and their allies still in the world. And so Trump signs it, gets on Air Force One to head to Singapore to talk to Kim Jong-un. Right. And then Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada, put out a tweet. We signed the communique, everyone signed it, yay. It was a sometimes tense but very productive meeting. Have a great day. And then Trump immediately tweeted from Air Force One

that Trudeau is weak, meek, and mild, and that he's full of lies. And then he asked Congress to reverse his signature on the communique, which sounds like he's withdrawing from the G7. And now all of our allies are like, we'll be the G6. We don't care. And people are tweeting like, I think Trump wants a G2

With you know who oh, you know what there's a song by the M the the luminaires or something called oh no It's the far East movement called G6 like a G6. Oh, yeah I mean that song just makes me think about a parody we could do but in general this is fucked up This is scary. It's like yeah, you're right Putin just wants to split everyone. He doesn't really care about being one and not even Putin. Then Trump too, right? It's like the unraveling of our status as a country in the fucking world. I don't think that Trump is, I mean, I think Trump's doing what Putin wants him to do. And now the Western alliances are unraveling. But fortunately, there's a really long, strong, solid tradition.

And I think that our allies know that it's not us, it's Trump. So I don't know, maybe we can send somebody else to the G7. Maybe we can send Governor Jerry Brown. Oh, yeah. Bernie Sanders. Yeah. Or soon to be a governor. Gavin Newsom. Be governor, you have a newsroom.

Be like, you know what, we, California have a bigger economy. Worth a fifth of a large economy. Oh, you do say, you do say. Yeah, so if we're the fifth largest global economy, we should be in the G7. Yeah. So why don't you just bring California over, fuck the rest. Oh my goodness.

Have a New York can join us? If we don't find someone better by like the next one, yeah, G8, then yeah, we need to get on this. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Go ahead. It's the add, sorry, I was just gonna say, I was reading on the headlines of Trump saying that

he's been backstabbed by Vichardo. Mm-hmm. It's a, he's called a mild, I think that's, like a mild. I like my men like, I like myself, that's what that makes me think I think that's making mild. I like my men like I like my salsa is what that makes me think He's so cute. Honestly, he's a great leader like a sexual things aside You're funny Anyway, I don't know Trump seems to be coming unhinged again

Like he's circling the drain. So I don't know it could we could be close to the end He may want to get that next McDonald's order to go. All right, you guys, that's the news. We'll be back in a minute. Hello, Mueller junkies. This is your host, A.G. and I am a huge fan of both true crime shows and wine. And I have found them both in one place. Check this out.

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But first, Joliza has some news for us about Ivanka and her role in Trump Tower Moscow. Yes, I do. Thank you. So, this is a BuzzFeed news article that came out on Wednesday, June 6th, and it says Ivanka Trump was in contact with a Russian who offered a Trump Putin meeting. And then the subline is her contact a Russian Olympic weightlifter said a meeting between Trump and Putin could expedite a Trump tower in Moscow. There's such a weird society. They have like pop stars and waitlifters doing their form. Exactly.

I'm glad you noticed that because it gets into it about why? Well, they're huge in the Olympics. Oh, yeah. They dope and cheat. That's why they couldn't use their flags. And think about it from like a crazy Illuminati perspective. Like you want to control all aspects of the society. You want to go for the athletes, the celebrities, the

politicians. If you want true like dictatorship, this is what kind of is. I don't think that's a woman, Adi. I think that's fashions the world. I know, you're so right. But yeah, and if they didn't kill gays, get the gays, because that's the big part, the gays, and then the kids, and then, yeah, yeah.

You're right, we learn that from sex in the city. Oh, it's so true. Rest in peace. So after intense scrutiny over contacts between Trump's people and Putin's people, Ivanka's name has barely come up. But during the campaign, she connected her father's personal lawyer with a Russian athlete who offered to introduce Trump to Putin in order to facilitate a 100-story Trump tower in Moscow, according to emails reviewed by BuzzFeed News. Fuckin' tall.

Oh yeah. Dang. Trying to imagine it. You think Trump's probably overcompensating or something? He doesn't build the buildings. He just puts his name on it. So yeah, he probably, when he watches porn, he has a little Trump sticker, like a little color form, and when there's a big dick on the screen, he just sticks it right on there.

Trump tower. Trump. It's not mine but I just tattooed it in a last longer. I'm sorry. There are the coleslaw feminism. Exactly. The filthings are phallic. Oh my god. So there is no evidence that Ivanka's contact with this athlete, a former Olympic weightlifter Demetri Klokov. Is that how it is pronounced? K-L-O-K-O-V. Klokov. Klokov? Klokov.

Klokov. Klokov. There we go. Knock your Klokov. So there was no evidence that I was contact with. Oh, it's okay. Oh, I see. You're in your day at Joe Lue.

There's no proof that that was illegal or that it had anything to do with the election. Nor is it clear that Cookehove could even have introduced Trump to the Russian President. But according to two sources, congressional investigators have reviewed emails and questioned witnesses about the interaction, and so has Mueller's team according to two other sources. So the contacts reveal that even as Trump was campaigning to become president, Ivanka connected Michael Cohen with a Russian who offered to arrange a meeting with one of the US's adversaries in order to help close a business deal

that could have made the Trump family millions. These interactions also shed light on Cohen who was currently under criminal investigation and who played a key role in many of Trump's biggest deals, including the effort to build Europe's tallest tower in the Russian capital. So in the fall of 2015, that effort was well in the works, and Cohen negotiated with Felix Seder, one of the president's longtime business associates, and agreed upon a Russian developer to build the tower. So Trump personally signed a non-binding letter of intent on October 28, 2015, the day of the third Republican debate to allow a Russian developer to brand the tower with Trump's name. The agreement stated that the Trump organization would have the option to brand the hotel spa and fitness facilities as, quote, the spa by Ivanka Trump. And that Ivanka would be granite, quote, soul and absolute discretion to have final say

on all interior design elements of the spa or fitness facilities. That sounds worth it. So it'll look like shit, basically. Exactly. It'll look like some pointy, snicskin' flat, just a big giant ugly shoe. You know, I hear good things about Trump Tower,

which makes me sacks, I wanna say it shitty, but they're probably classy. I do not. You don't hear good things. Trump Tower which makes me sacks. I want to say it shitty, but they're probably classy I do I do not you don't hear good things. I've never been of course How desperate go ahead now it's gonna say I died because they didn't put in a Sprinkler system you're so right he uses cheap materials. They have all they have all sorts of good point Are we gonna say Jordan? I was just gonna say how desperate you have to be till like putting your name on a spa be worth doing what she did That's a very good point. Yeah, yeah, totally. She had her fingers in a lot of pudding, so it's not just this one.

That's true. It's a finger cherry on top. The poop is in the pudding. So if I go at the time with the poop, the poop, the poop, the poop. Oh, God. Oh, I thought you said the Putin's in the pudding. I thought you saw her different things, like Yani and Laurel.

I thought you said the poop was in the pudding. I'm like, that is messed up. That would be really gross. I'm so sorry guys for the visual. The poop was in the pudding. I'm like, that is messed up. That would be really gross. I'm so sorry, guys, for the visual. The proof is in the pudding. That's a quote that I heard from some Bill Cosby related thing, from life, from life, yeah. So Ivanka at the time was an executive vice president

of development and acquisitions at the Trump organization. And publicly, she was an ambassador for the company, attending ribbon cuttings, posting pictures of deals on her Instagram and starring in advertisements for the company's new properties, but inside the Trump organization She had a reputation as a shrewd and tough executive known to get her way, which is fine I think that's fine personally Yeah, I'm just surprised. Yeah, she gets things done. That doesn't mean she's a good person But yeah, I meant to getting her way of getting her way of That could be the yeah, the part where she knows no other way.

Exactly. I mean, look at her father. We're all products of our parents, whether we like it or not. So Ivanka, who now works in her father's administration, did not respond to questions sent to her personal email, chief of staff, or the White House. And a spokesperson for attorney wrote that Ivanka did not know about the Trump Moscow project until after a non-binding letter of intent had been signed, she never talked to anyone outside the organization about the proposal, and she even internally was only minimally involved. According to them, her only role was limited to reminding Cohen that should an actual deal come to frutation, which it did not, the project like any other with the Trump name, conform with the highest design and architectural standards."

End quote. Frutation. But yeah, oh sorry, frutation is what I thought my bad. No, it's okay, that's why we're here. We're here to learn, I learned from you. The more you know. You learned from me. And who is saying that she was minimally involved?

This is a spokesperson for her attorney. So the attorney won't even say it. So it's a spokesperson for the, it's probably a lawyer for the spokesperson of the attorney, of the spokesperson. A lawyer for the lawyer. Someone who is standing next to Ivanka. And anonymously so there is no name listed, which is really interesting. Good point.

Nobody wants to tie their names to this weird. That's weird. Yeah Only cuz like they're busy or something exactly. Yeah, I gotta be so fucking essential More than five hours after BuzzFeed news published the story the spokesperson. Oh, here's my name I'm so sorry. It's I read this article and I forgot Peter Miragenian that is a very interesting, Mirajanian I wanna say, wrote that he inadvertently left off part of the statement. So he said, quote,

Ms. Trump did not know and never spoke to Demetri Klokov. She recently, or she received an unsolicited email. Klokov, there she is. Klokov, Klokov, Klokov. Yeah, there, there, there, there. She received an unsolicited email from his wife who she also did not know and passed it on to Michael Cohen

who she understood was working on any possible projects in Russia. She did no more than that, unquote. Unsolicited email, I'm sorry, who solicits email? Who's like Nigerian princes? Like I just send out emails to all my friends saying, may I send you another email? Please. Please email me if you will.

I love it. What about, nothing, I want to solicit your emails. This is not, I don't want it to be a cold cold. Fuck it weirdo. You love it. So, interviews suggested that her involvement. Oh yeah, I know, I of the weirdos. You love it. So interviews suggested that her involvement- Oh, yeah, I know. I have the same problem.

So interviews suggested that Ivanka's involvement ran much deeper than this. So according to the four sources, in November 2015, Ivanka told Cohen to speak with Klikov and Cohen had then at least one phone call conversation with the waylifter. And it's not known what they discussed over the phone phone but they exchanged a string of emails that are now spelled to even lift bro they just think the fitness gym be called there you go swole oh my goodness

I have a separate one called leg day that no one goes to it. Yes so they they change a string of emails that are now being examined by congressional investigators in federal agents probing Russia's election meddling. And one of those emails, Klikov, told Cohen that he could arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin to help pave the way for the tower. And later, Cohen sent email refusing that offer and saying that the Trump organization already

had an agreement in place. He then said he was cutting off all future communication with Klikov. And copying Ivanka, the Russian responded in a final message in which he questioned Cohen's authority to make decisions for the Trump organization. So frustrated by that exchange, Ivanka questioned Cohen's refusal to continue communicating with Klikov and this is all according to the sources of course. I know, that name just kills me every time. So it's unclear how Ivanka came into contact with this guy. It could have been Instagram, he's got a lot of followers.

He posts a lot of weightlifting stuff, but here's the thing. Yes, exactly. Do you have titles came in contact? Totally. He won the Silver Medal in the 20 or 2008 Olympic Games, and he also took gold in the 2005 World Championships. Yeah, he's the opposite of Jared. Exactly, he has the opposite of Jared exactly

He has no background in real estate development nor is he known to be a close associate of Putin or anyone in the Russian president's inner circle Well, then he'll be okay in prison. Yeah, he'll be fine So the thing is here he initially told BuzzFeed that he did not send the emails to Cohen and he sent in text message quote I don't understand why you ask me about this. I'm a wait-lifter not a political Yeah, yeah, and then they said well I don't understand why you ask me about this. I'm a weightlifter, not a political. Yeah, and then they said, well, we see your emails to Cohen, and then he responded with silence. I'm a doctor, not a script writer.

In Trump is a fucking schmuck entrepreneur, a piece of shit, but with workies. Yeah, exactly. Did he send that message using WhatsApp? You know what, or dust? We're learning what are these apps? They should use kick. Okay. Sorry. That's for hookups and Or they should use secure actual secure government channels. Yeah, that would probably be best But then we would know what they were saying definitely definitely so I want to just go ahead and wrap this up for you guys

So the chair of the intelligence committee North Carolina Senator Richard Burr He declined to comment on this whole situation or anything specific, but he did say that he could see how Russian athletes, like the country's oligarchs, might be drawn into Russian politics. He said, quote, I can't speak specifically to athletes, but you see the oligarchs, and there is a model for them, and they do things on behalf of the country and on behalf of Putin at their own expense. They're not asked, they just do or assume the responsibility to do it, whether it's a mercenary army in Syria or it's screwing with elections or the hacking of the St.

Petersburg facility." Oh, actually, no, he goes on. He says, so it's not a stretch to say if Putin allows oligarchs to make money as long as they don't get involved in politics and they do things that are beneficial to Putin, I could see athletes falling into the same category. Well, yeah, we all saw Rocky for. Totally. You probably didn't. Well, you know what? I get the idea. Yeah, like that was the athletes are a huge part of showing the strength of the country

and whether it's in the Olympics or in the boxing ring with Rocky Balboa, the Italian stallion, which is different from the medallion stallion. Right, right. Cohen. And I just want to say real quick before I completely wrap it up. No, wait, go ahead. Just to tie back to you, Raaka, with all of this. So she claimed she was not involved with all of this, but here's the thing. She has an unusually strong influence over Trump and his unpredictability and impulsiveness.

It's with her wily feminine ways. Exactly. And so here's the thing though, she and her brother, Trump Jr., and Sater, when they visited Moscow in 2006, they were scouting locations for the possible tower there, and she was even sitting in Putin's office chair during the visit. So she was instrumental in the development of Trump's Soho, which was a troubled hotel and condo tower in Manhattan, according to BuzzFeed. And New York prosecutors are even considering criminal fraud charges against Ivanka and her brother for allegedly misleading

prospective buyers at this Trump Soho location. So she's already got some. We've already reported on that. Exactly. Because they were telling investors that we've almost sold out. And they were having fake Russians, or like real Russians posing as fake Americans quote unquote buying up the properties in

the building so that they could say, oh, we're almost sold out. You better be right. They're actually in court right now. Yeah. On the rest of the channel. And now just seeing how she's coming back up in the news now with with this new, you know, Moscow tower development, it just shows that more and more Ivanka is not innocent.

She's fucked. And you can be an immigrant to this country and falsify your identity apparently, okay, if you're financing Donald Trump's property. Oh, yeah. And, you know, we'll give you, I think visas for investing in real estate. They were doing that with China.

This fly in here. I'm starting to like them. Should we name him Frank? But I was thinking maybe we could get... Oh, there he goes. Maybe we could get like some chopsticks. I totally catch them. Like Mr. Oh my god. He's like an ocean of secrets. You can do like that kill Bill style. Yeah, no. I did fantasize grabbing it just by the wing. Oh my goodness. And then just releasing it. I think I have to be honest. I said to do that. Fair enough.. Well we have another break. We can just murder it. Nobody will hear it. I want to fly swarrow be easier. Man who gets fly with chapsting. Accomplish anything.

You ever catch one? Not yet. Yeah I don't know there's something about this fly that I don't know I feel like it's kind of zen. Like when I was a cyclist for I was a cyclist like, I don't know. There's something about this fly that I don't know. I feel like it's kind of zen. Like when I was a cyclist for I was a cyclist, like an avid cyclist. I saw my bike, but I was super crazy about it. I was doing centuries. I would hang a little tiny India bell on the back of my seat so that it would, uh, ding and ding.

And it would keep me present. It would keep me on the bike. It would keep my mind from wandering, right? Like be present. Be in this moment. Be on the bike ride because it's all amazing. This fly, I think, is keeping me grounded in this podcast. I think this is a good episode,

and I think I have the flight of thanks. You know, I'm gonna let them go. Hell yeah. No chopsticks for this. All right. We'll get a little bit of buzz. Yeah, every once in a while you have a b- Oh, it's a Buzzfeed article, too.

It's not related. I'm so sorry, that's totally fine. It's a new kind of Buzzfeed. Look, he's on the door. Yeah. Maybe it's a Buzzfeed article too. It's not related. I'm so sorry. That's totally fine. It's a new kind of Buzzfeed. Look, he's on the door. You see? Maybe it's a Buzzfeed just chilling out. Anyway, anyway, thank you, Julie said. That was really, really good reporting.

And again, we want to reiterate because it happened in a past episode where we were sad that Ivanka was being a dick and it seemed like we were sympathizing with her. We don't like her at all. She's a horrible person. Right. She's a faceless you know what? I'm not going to say the word because I don't like her at all, she's a horrible person. She's a faceless unit what? Mm-hmm. I'm not gonna say the word,

because I don't wanna lose all of our advertisers. All of us, which we have one of my friends. Ha ha ha. Uh, actually we did get a legit one. We did, that's right. We got the artist podcast, which was very cool. Yeah, they get a free one, we've reached out.

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duration of his presidency so far is an aggressive understatement. As we all know earlier in his presidency Trump made an unprecedented move by releasing his plans to move our US Embassy to Jerusalem, thus validating the Israeli wish that Jerusalem be regarded as their capital and not the Palestinians. In further thus, taking a strictly partisan stance on an issue that has plagued the region with violence for decades upon decades. But after a further look into Trump's behind the scenes ties to Israel, it is becoming more and more incontrovertible. There are more sinister connections than the global intelligence community once thought.

So shickids crazy after this, these things happened last week. Okay. Mm-hmm. Craig. Craig. The growing skepticism regarding the Trump campaign's ties is real hit a milestone last week when George Poppidop's why, I think George Poppidop.

When his wife Sonia Mangyanti. Mangyanti. When his wife Sonia Mangyanti. She went on errands said that pop-a-dop is innocent of what he already admitted to doing lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russians and that he was in no way working for or with Russian intelligence. She then drops a bomb on all of us and says that the real reason pop-a-dop plead guilty was because Mueller's prosecutors threatened to charge him with being an Israeli agent. In the best part she never even denies that this is correct and that she never labels it as

a false accusation as false as the accusation of accusation maybe. She's so weird. Yeah, they got married three months ago. Yeah, oh, they did get married? I read that they got married three months ago. That's an asset. Protection situation. I was gonna say, or like can't testify a kind of thing. Right, they can't testify against each other.

Although she seems to be doing it herself on Fox News. It's so true. But she's lying out of her. Well, I don't know. You know what? I don't know. I don't know what I don't know. Although if I were a muller, I probably wouldn't use her as a witness. Just like I probably wouldn't use pop-up at all. Yeah, take that whole family out of them.

Y'all are incredible and I don't mean awesome. You're not credible. I know. Incredible. Yes, yes. Incredible and incredible or too close to each other. Very good. And I can't wait to see the Incredibles too.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyway, regardless of it's too long. So regardless of his spouse of three months rambling on on national television, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And mind you about very established legal proceedings that have already taken place and have been confirmed by the defendant himself.

Her comments did start the nation down a rabbit hole of Doc connecting this week. The notion that pop it up has been in kahoo to this real during the Trump campaign is not incorrect. Despite pop it up's previous career as an energy consultant being saturated with pro-Israeli positions, pop it up has done much more than that for Israel. For example, during the 2016 campaign, Pop-A-Dop met with an Israeli settler leader and assured him that if Trump was elected,

he'd take a favorable view of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Ooh, and guess what's happened? Is there any indication that Trump or anyone in the Trump organization has gotten to ban Gianni or trying to influence her to say these things despite what's really going on. Is there anything in that article about that?

No, this opinion piece is not talk about that. How they may have any notions of them, we know influencing her or any deals they may have, nothing. It's just that talks about her interview and then just goes on to describe more. Because that would be funny if there were monies into the Cohen LLC essential consultants about talking to Papa Doveless's fiance wife. Yeah, for sure. I mean, you have to imagine they'd be there. Yeah, Barbara Jones would have seen it. Or what you're saying is just true, but I don't know. It could just be true. It could absolutely be true. But it also could be it's a very mafia style thing to get

to others and have them say things. Just like Manafort reached out to Calimnick to try to get the, what are they called? A PR firm to say that he was only lobbying in the EU, he wasn't lobbying in the United States. That kind of suborned perjury situation. It did somebody get a hold of her and say, go on TV and say this know to Giuliani hang out with her one night with his teeth and and say look you gotta go. Special occasion. You gotta go on TV and you gotta say that this is

all deep state and it's all conspiracy. It seems weird that she would make this shut up given that Povidopolis has said all this on the record. Although it could be reverse. It could be that the justice system is so really difficult to navigate that he is doing what they want him to do because otherwise he is blocked. So yeah, we have to think of it from both sides. And this is one of those situations where I don't want our confirmation bias to get involved. Do they have him or do they have her? Like which one is it?

Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure I trust Mueller implicitly. And depending on how she shows up in the news cycle over the next coming months, I'm sure they'll be a deeper look into that. Yeah, anyway, sorry, please continue. Yeah, yeah. So just to jump back in, just to reiterate, we're talking about when the low level campaign buffoon pop it up list decided that it would be a good idea to go behind closed doors and promise that the US would be taking a

pro Israeli settlement stance, which is a topic that is continually being investigated by the UN for human rights violations. I don't care what your stance is on the Israeli Palestine conflict to take such a strong stance on its really policy That is in many ways not kosher and still under investigation is extremely irresponsible and I will say that he it was a campaign Promise but this all happened during the campaign. Mm-hmm. Yep Um, it makes me want to pluck my eyeballs out. I read that. I just I just poured the wine right into the microphone Oh, it's okay And then I hit the microphone with the wine I just wanted the wine right into the microphone for you.

And then I hit the microphone with the wine. I just wanted you to know. That was a shout out to Wine and Crime. There you go. Podcast. Yeah. So, we're very responsible. Yes.

Yeah, so we go to, sorry. So he goes into this and then extremely ill informed. I wouldn't even say ill informed. Just rash. It's a very rash stance to take considering it's been up for debate and virtually undecided upon by president after president of the United States. Oh, the moving of the embassy. Yes. Yeah. Not to mention how alienating that is to the Palestinian community that lives in the US. They did that. I'm sorry, interrupt. They did that because and they've been putting it off for Decades because they were not supposed to make that move until they

Negotiated a two-state solution and peace and in that region Which I think was supposed to concentrate a constitute a two-state solution So that's why they've been putting it like we haven't gotten to the two-state solution yet I'm not gonna move the embassy people are gonna die and guess what happened Yeah, and I know not to start talking about the Israeli processing and conflict too much here on the polar podcast But but yeah, the two state two two state solution I think is the most widely accepted diplomatically just across the world It does matter though because it's some it's an agreement a piece a piece agreement that was made by people on the Trump campaign as a Squid Pro Crow.

So yeah, that's true, thank you. I will continue then. Good wall. Yes, yeah. But yeah, I think where the real issue comes is that a lot of the time since Israel is just in definitively a higher place of privilege than the Palestinians are.

A two-state solution quote-unquote. It's hard for Palestinians and their allies to expect it to truly be a fair two-state solution. It's hard and it's hard because of what happened in World War II. It's very difficult to tread lightly back into that ground when all these atrocities have been committed against the Jews, and not just in World War II, for thousands of years passed. So it's almost like, we would be assholes if we tried to take anything away

from Israel. It's hard, that guilt, that particularly between Catholics and Jews, that's major guilt. So you can't just walk in and go, nope, I'm sorry, it's not fair, don't care what you say. It's going to cause waves either way, right? Totally. Yeah, as US citizens and then the tangible conflict that's happening physically between Jews and Muslims and Palestine and where they reside that are not longer their territories. And this is a perit transition into this. There's a difference between criticizing Israeli policy and

criticizing the Jewish faith in people. I just think that's so important for people to stop jumping to. Like the conflation of these two is what lays the ground for radical people to call anyone who criticizes Israeli policy anti-Semitic. And it's the radical people because in America the American Jews a lot, most of which are secular, most of which are in it for community, most of which are probably atheists, but practicing Jews like a lot of Catholics to be honest, are not okay with this. Nobody wants people to die. And that's exactly what this kind of thing encourages.

And again, this is op-ed, this is opinion, this is I, sorry, I just wanted to kind of interject that. And I think most, you know, modern American Jews are like, dude, BB Netanyahu, chill the fuck out. Exactly. Yeah, even the ones I have, I mean, because typically Jewish people are regarded as like a more liberal bunch, right? Like, usually, yeah. Hollywood. Yeah, and like, I feel like it's just so important,

especially before we continue on this op-ed to just say, heads up, there's a lot of, you know, criticism of Israeli policy and people that are tied to Israel that are you know doing sketchy things. It's not anti-Semitic. I hate saying this but I'm Jewish. No I heritage. There are people not anti-Semitic. Rob Reiner came out saying this. Rob Reiner came out and saying opposing this does not make you anti-Semitic. Yeah.

It makes you anti-death. Yes. And so let's not conflate the two things, although I can see how it's very hard and people don't want to tread that line. Yeah. Because it's like, clean. Yeah. It just feels like you have a muzzle on when you're talking about it.

And it sucks because the human rights violations, you know, in that region, I won't even say what side, but in that region are atrocious, and there's so much money involved in the lobbying that's happening on the international level that's making, like the results are that people are still dying daily. Exactly. Exactly. It's just like inexcusable, we have to talk about it. I just...

Thank you, John. Absolutely. Yeah, thank you. But so moving back to the story, so we have the fact that pop it up did that, right, during the campaign. Next, we have the fact that the meeting, we have the fact that the meeting between pop it up and Alexander Downer, you know, when he drunkenly told Downer that Russia had damaging information on Clinton, that meeting was actually set up through a chain of people that involved

in Israeli diplomat. Crazy. Given that a high percentage of Israeli diplomats serving abroad are spies, this is backed by data. If you'd like it, please ask. This needs to be investigated further. And it is being investigated further. Even further, some of Trump's closest allies are American Jews of Soviet heritage who are very connected to the Shepard of Port Washington, a Jewish community center on Long Island that reportedly possesses close links to Putin and the Kremlin. Some of those names include Felix Sater and Michael Cohen. I don't even know who that is.

Is that somebody we've ever talked about ever? Exactly. As we know, Cohen accepted at least $400,000 from the Ukrainian government to set up a meeting with Trump last year. This deal ran through attendees of Shabbat of Port Washington. Those are just fun facts for now. So that deal went through them. Through people that are very connected. Yeah, interesting. Worth looking into, right? So then there's the time that native proford unofficial foreign aided

Trump's campaign from entities like Saudi Arabia and the UAE in a Trump tower meeting. That day, native brought within Joe Zamel and Israeli expert with strong ties to former Israeli intelligence officials and paid him as much as $2 million for help on Trump's social media strategies. Mell, as we know, is the founder of Wikistrat. Yeah.

We've talked about the mail. We added them to our fantasy indictment draft a couple weeks ago. We did. Yeah, because Wikistrat is a private intelligence firm that is currently under investigation by Mueller's team who has traveled to Israel to dig even deeper into these ties. Also fun fact, several Wikistrat staffers worked for Israeli intelligence previously, and many intelligence officials in the US are asking if they still do. So it was really espionage just a bit in the context against the US, as cited as a top threat

to our national intelligence in the US, and it's called a quote unquote big four ranking. A ranking of counterintelligence threats to the US. Russia, can I guess? Yep. Russia, China, them. Yep. And the fourth one kind of, I wouldn't have, I like, it makes sense, but I don't know if I would have put it forth. Cutter?

No. See, I'm being influenced by the Trump administration already. I'm so sorry, cutter. Park cutting. Interesting. Is it like a former Russian state, like Kazakhstan or something? No, what is it? Cuba. Cuba.

Yeah. Cuba. Now, are they actually Cubans or are they people in Cuba? I don't know. We'll figure it out. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it does matter, but not for this conversation. Yeah, not at this moment. Yeah, it is interesting just in the context of news right now, it would try to include. Cuba and our home like trying to open back up to Cuba and everything. Yes, yeah, that'll take. Hello.

Yeah, so to wrap this all up, a veteran counters by in our intelligence community has asked this on the record asking the person who wrote this story. What if the real secret of the Trump campaign isn't that it's a Kremlin operation rather an Israeli operation masquerading as a Russian one? Oh my goodness. Yeah, to which I say I need a break now for seven hours. Yeah, right. Yeah, to which I say, likely, I'm not so sure. Worth investigating. Absolutely. Damn.

Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you, Jordan. I'm throwing a wrench in that. That's pretty easy. That's nuts. Where you think about, oh, is it? Really?

Mm-hmm. It's a plot twist. And BB is under investigation for a lot of shit right now. A lot of corruption. I just looked at a map recently, a world map, cuz I was looking at our stats have people that listen all over Which is mind boggling right way of the nine people in And I learned where the UAE actually is on a map. Oh, okay, I was like whoa That's weird. I honestly could tell you I just station there so I know where I know where yeah

I was gonna say I've never looked at a global map all of this. It's it's it's blowing my mind Just the world is very small. What's interesting is how close the Middle East is to Italy and Greece and Spain. Or, you know, I mean, just Northern Africa and Italy. Yeah. Yeah, I had a lot of, I was in the first Gulf War, or I was in the military during a French war.

You go to the Gulf War. Mm-hmm. And if you find out where Kuwait is and where Qatar is. Yeah, I've never traveled internationally and yet we have listeners that are there and I'm just like, wow, you're right there. I mean, I wanna travel now. And I will say traveling internationally

is probably the best thing you can do for your brain. Oh, yes. For discrimination, for bias. I went to Europe for a while once and I feel like I aged 10 years. Wow. And yeah, I spent my senior year in high school in 13 years.

I spent my senior year in high school at their in 13 countries. Wow. And Eastern, well, some two in Eastern Europe, mostly Western Europe. That's incredible. Seriously, Rustin Peace, Anthony Burden. Yeah, yeah. Because he brought us all of that. He was all about that, yeah.

And it wasn't political. It was just food. Just like just about having food and drink. Experiences. Yeah, sharing it wasn't political. It was just food. Just light. Just like just about having like food and drink experiences. Yeah. Sharing good times. That's amazing. It makes me sad. It's the point. The fact that we're distracted by all this political stuff is like really sad because we should be enjoying each other more. You know. Please travel. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Anyway, thank you guys. So we had another felony Friday this week. I want to say yay, but also I want to cry. They're so few and far between. I'm so excited about felony Friday this week. I want to say yay, but also I want to cry.

There's so few in far between. I'm so excited about felony Friday. Mueller slapped Superseining indictments on Manafort and indicted his Russian spy pal, Constantin Kalimnik. Man, I hope every one of these bastards get what they deserve. Prosecutors say next to be indicted will be company. Spend, doctor.

Dick Harper. Harper gave for like misleading statement. Indicted. Indicted. Indicted. That's not fair. They made you go on that show. You hear what they said, Jane?

I'm going to be indicted. If you only said what they told me. Indicted, Jane. Indicted. I'm going to be indicted. No, it is going to be okay. Indicted. Honey, Dick. Indicted.

Honey. I'm going to be indicted. Hold it. They can't. It's going to be a di di di No it is going to be okay Honey dick Honey They can't it's going to be okay just calm in the fire! We're still in the fire! So we've been saying for a while now, we've put many soads and hotnotes out that we were gonna expect superseding indictments for conspiracy on Manafort, but I will admit, I did not think they would come in the form of obstruction of witness tampering.

I thought it was just gonna be crimes of collusion. Yeah. Right? Get over it. Get over it. It's a collusion. But let's talk about this one. These indictments are based on the court filing. We did an emergency mini-sode on earlier this week that said the prosecution wanted to revisit the bail agreement because Manafort has yet again violated the terms of his release.

If you recall, his bail has been up for review twice. Once when he worked with Kalimnik to publish an op-ed about his case after the judge had implemented a gag order Then again when the prosecution found out his $10 million property that he put up or $10 million in property that he put up His collateral wasn't actually worth $10 million and now he's reached out to Kalimnik To get in touch with a PR firm to get them to say he never lobbied in the US for Yana Kovic Because he never registered as a foreign lobbyist. In our bonus episode this week, the news was just breaking.

The one we released earlier this week, it was just breaking and we were trying to figure out who Manafort contacted to suborn perjury. So let's listen to that clip really quick. I wonder who that witness would be. It's someone in the PR firm then. Or someone connected to people at the PR firm. Right. Or somebody Manafort knows that he just had column up.

Could be an EU guy. Could be Kalimnik. So the hearing about his bail was scheduled for this Friday, but Mueller decided to indict him and Kalimnik in the meantime. That's so great. And the court takes witness tampering very seriously. Anything that goes against due process of the law in this country, the court is like, what?

And they're like, it on it. Yeah. And so you could, this charge alone could give Manafort 10 to 20 years. Whoa. That's once. That's basically life for someone like him, you know? It's the 10 to 20 years. Whoa. That's once. That's basically life for someone like him, you know? It's the rest of his life.

Yeah. It's clear that Manafort gave private briefings to Darapaska via Kalimnig, and he worked to soften the language against Russia in regards to the Ukraine in the RNC platform with the help of Mashburn and Mashburn and Dearborn, right? You told us about that a lot, Jordan. But then Trump gave those weapons,

Manafort worked to obstruct to the Ukraine. After they agreed to drop the investigations into Manafort. Oh my goodness. And the Ukraine also let Columnick flee to Russia. They let him go. Yeah. Squid pro-crow?

Yeah, much. Yeah, so let's see if Manafort flips or if Mueller files more superseding indictments. I don't know. We'll see. Whichever comes first. Hopefully either one soon. I don't care. Yeah, yeah, just just give me something. Make it happen.

Yeah. It freaks me out that it's just so weird that Trump Manafort worked on behalf of Trump to soften the language on Russia in the Ukraine and saying we will not send lethal weapons. Remember that lady was there in the Russian Roulette book and she's like, what the fuck are you doing? Right. Because she is a super conservative and she was like, why are you saying we're not going

to help Ukraine against Russia? Russia is the bad guy. Exactly. And then, of course, a man of work to obstruct the Ukraine after they agreed to drop their investigations. And then Ukraine let Kalimnick go free. And then all this happened, like in the, it's just the weirdest thing to be, to, to, to, to pay money to get them to soften their language on the Ukraine and then sell weapons to

the Ukraine to help them fight off Russia. Yeah. Yeah. It's a clusterfuck. And then to allow Kalimnick to flee the Russia. Yeah. Yeah. It's a clusterfuck. And then to allow colinic to flee the Ukraine to Russia. It's just nobody would write this because it wouldn't make any sense, but this is what's happening. Yeah.

I can't. Yeah. No. And as a comedy writer, yeah. I can't. I'm like, where's the punchline? It's just a headache. Yeah.

I know. Yeah. I was trying to think of a cheating on your husband. Oh, yeah. I know. I was trying to think of a cheating on your husband. Oh, yeah, I know. Like we normally do it. Exactly. And it's so ridiculous. I was more asking rhetorically,

where is the punch line? But you're right. It was so ridiculous that I can't even think of it. The only thing I could come up with was that you were cheating on your husband by fucking your actual husband. That's the only thing I could come up with. Even then, I think you're right. It explains how crazy it is, but it still makes no sense.

Right, it's like an oraboris, right? Yeah. I don't even know where it starts. Because it went in. Yeah. Right. It's like an oraborus, right? Yeah. I don't even know where it starts when it ends. Yeah. And apparently things don't have meaning just in and of themselves now. There's one side that is it and the other side that is the antithesis of it. That is evil and working against money.

And they're taking money from both sides. Yeah. Right? For whatever situation they need to do damage can go forward. It's like better call Saul. Yeah. Every man for himself, I don't think Trump really has any friends. I think he has like, maybe, you know, Giuliani.

And, but I think they're all out for themselves. Yeah, Putin for sure is out for himself. So his ads for his attorneys are actually just like, looking lonely, man, looking for friends. Oh, miss connection. Miss connection, no, no, no. Anyway, guys, that's been Hot Notes. We'll be right back.

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help. Please support women in podcasting by visiting mullershoewrote.com and become a patron today. Alright you guys, this week we get to give ourselves a point for the Kalimnick indictment. Nice. Woohoo! We put Kalimnick on there a while ago. I'd also like to add Sean Hannity, okay, for his Itsy Bitsy phone piece, right? And Alejam and Mousen, the two friends of Broity, that we talked about earlier. And then this week Natasha Bertrand, who's killing it at the Atlantic, by the way, she put out an article about an ex-Congressman with ties to Trump and Russia. Twenty years ago, a guy named Kurt Weldon lost his bid for re-election in Pennsylvania after an FBI investigation

exposed his ties to two Russian companies. And now, Dify, Diane Feistine, wants the Senate Judiciary to interview Weldon about his suspicious ties to Trump and Russia. Weldon seems to know about Trump wanting to live sanctions on Russia, the role of Russian oligarch may have played in trying to influence the Trump campaign, and a significant instance in which a foreign national wanted to sway Trump through one of Trump's closest advisors. So this guy, he might have the intel about a specific squid pro crow. So I'm adding him to our fantasy draft in the plea deal column. Okay. Okay. Natasha reports this is all likely connected to the Ardemenko Cohen Seder relationship and was probably funded by Vexelberg. All of whom have been questioned by Muller except Cohen that we know of. Right. So the $500,000 payment to the Cohen slush fund

by Columbus, but Columbus. A slush fund by Columbus Nova. By Columbus Nova was likely about this Ukraine piece deal and Dye Fire believes Weldon is the Linchpin. So put some beans on that. And then finally, we need to add a guy named John Fodiotis. And the John Fodiotis group. Fodiotis is the architect Trump used in his Eastern European real estate projects, basically, all the ex-Soviet areas and also Russia.

And he's got some kind of info because when he was called this week by CNBC, not this week, sorry, he was called April 11th by CNBC to ask questions about these ties, he immediately shut down his 10-year firm and then stop talking. That's the guy. Yeah, weird. Yeah. And the architect is a key part of the sales pitch. And Mueller is looking closely at him.

So we have a mini-sode on him this week. So patrons check that out. Yeah. This is so closely at him. So we have a mini-sode on him this week, so patrons check that out. Yeah. It's just so conspicuous. It's a lot of hole-off, totally. A 10-year international firm. He's in like four other countries. I can't remember.

He's in Kiev. I think he's in Ukraine. I think he's Azerbaijan, I think. Shut him all down. Just, boom. Close it down. That's that scene in the Mueller movie where the guy gets the call like, hey, they're onto you and he's like,

got the stash ready to go. He's like ready to move. Yeah, yeah, you pack up all the cans. One suitcase, yeah, telling your wife and kids, meet me at the airport. So put it all away. Yeah, out. Totally flustered, out of the case.

Well, I'd be lying to myself if I said this day was some cup. LAUGHTER Nice. The one smart guy in the whole investigation. Yeah, I don't know. It was really, really weird. So we have a whole mini-suit on that, so please check it out.

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Muller skillfully indicted Paul Manafort this week along with Kalimnik. And the fact that they are both on the indictment means that if Trump wants to pardon Manafort for these crimes, he must also pardon the Russians by. Beautiful. And you know he'll do it if he has to. We know he'll do it, but what will the public do? That is really, really bad looking. If you pardon a former FSB agent and current Russian asset. Yeah, and Putin himself, I think, is on that list, right?

That's right. Well, it's a bit... Well, it's a bit... Well, it's a bit... Well, it's a bit... I believe, Rachel... She might have mentioned this, that Putin himself would need to be pardoned for crimes, too. No. No, there are only two people indicted on the indicate. Okay, okay. And it's a Manafort and Columbus. There we go. But he would have to do it for them. He would have to pardon them both. So if Manafort was waiting around for a pardon, he could get one, he could get a pardon on his

other charges, the other 77 million charges that he has. But these charges, which carry a 10 to 20 year sentence, are inextricably linked to the former Russian FSB asset. So the pressure is really on Manafort now to flip and cooperate because he faces Jalen till trial now because of the whole Kalimnik thing, which is it's now been pushed back to late July his trial. It's no longer on July 10. It's pushed back to I think the 20 second or the 24th.

And the likelihood of a pardon has substantially diminished because it is now hooked up to a Russian. So Manafort is... Fuuuut... Fuuut... Fuuut... Fuuut... Fuuut...

Fuuut... Nice. Yeah, I should have seen that one coming. I was a little distracted. I'm so sorry. No, it was a good one. No, we set it up. It was great. I'm so I was a little distracted. I'm so sorry. No, it was a good one. No, we set it up It was great. I'm so insecure Child

All right you guys we now have a new segment called flip it blue. Yes, I am so excited about this new segment Maybe I'm so excited. Maybe I'm so excited, maybe I'm so scared. I'm so excited! I'm so excited! I'm so scared! So in this segment, we introduce you to a progressive candidate working to flip Congress blue in November. Today, Jordan is going to be talking to Amy Volella. She is a Democrat, a progressive Democrat, running for Congress in Nevada's fourth district. Yeah. Let's listen to this interview.

It's such a good interview. You guys ready? Oh yeah. Hi, is this Amy? This is Amy. Hi, Amy. This is Jordan Coburn with Mollershiro here. We are so excited to talk to you today. You are our first person on our segment of interviewing Blue Wave candidates for the Congressional Election in 2018. We're so happy to have you on.

Thank you for being here. Well, thank you for having me. Of course. Would you mind starting off and just giving us a little bit of background about yourself, what district you're in, your political party, your full, you know, any of your platform initiatives that you're really harping on right now. And then we'll just start out with a basic bio

and then we'll go into some more specific questions after that. Sure. So my district is in Las Vegas, Nevada. Also, it expands up through the world part of Nevada, oddly up to Carson City, and over to Eli. So, it's, we're the largest district in Nevada. It encompasses many different communities with different needs, very distinct different needs. We have communities here in the urban area of Las Vegas, the North Las Vegas with two different air force bases on them.

And then we have many different communities throughout the world areas of Nevada that also have very specific needs. So it's a very unique district with a lot of different issues and interest and communities that need comprehensive legislation that's gonna address those needs. And so I'm really excited to be running in this district. Yeah, it was really excited.

My dad, Lance Cobra, he has been raving about you for the last couple months. And as some of our listeners know, my hometown is Las Vegas. So I'm really excited to talk to you today. It's been a while since I've lived there. So I have an idea of what some of the major issues are that are sort of plaguing that region. But if you could list off, let's say maybe the top two that you would like to lobby for if you're elected, could you do that for us? Sure. So one issue that is affecting people throughout the district and especially hitting hard in the rural areas is healthcare.

And the lack of health insurance, the lack of providers, this is a huge issue here in this district. We are seeing many people do without my own daughter with a victim of not having health insurance and died because of it at the age of 22, a couple years ago. There's many people in the world that don't even have access to necessary mental health. I've heard or the clinics or hospitals are closing and they also have trouble even getting a provider on the health care exchange through the state. So health care is a huge issue that I definitely will be fighting for very hard in Congress,

and I will be fighting for improved and expanded Medicare for all. So that's I'm the only one that's running right now in this district that is running on that platform of not doing little half measures, but actually implementing real change that will include everyone and take care of many of the problems that we're facing in this district. The second thing that I would say is facing a lot of people in this district, especially with the percent of Latinos in my district is immigration. We have a lot of dreamers in this district and families that are living in constant fear of being deported back to a country that many of them don't even know or deported back to a country where they're unsafe. So those are really big things. And overall, we are looking at also the economy.

So I think there's really three, sorry, whenever one, but there's really three things that are really stressing out families. And it all comes down to really the necessity of having not just any old blue, but having a strong Democrat, a progressive Democrat, he's going to come in and fight for bold progressive policies that will affect true change.

We've seen time and time again where dreamers, even when we've had its supermajority, have not been taken care of, even with Democrats in office. And we've also seen, you know, our economy, just getting worse and worse increasingly, we now have the biggest disparity of income that we have seen since the 1920s and it's only going to get worse because we are still living under this misguided notion that trickle down economics works. So having a bold progressive that will go in and fight for a true economic change with policies such as a new deal that right now it's been introduced as the federal jobs

guarantee legislation. These are things that we need to have Democrats fighting for in Congress and boldly. Amy we could not agree with your platform and what you advocate for more. We are so sorry to hear about your daughter. You have one of the most inspirational stories and just backgrounds for why you're motivated to do what you're doing and We need more people like you in Congress and we're so happy to have you here I'd like to give one question over to our producer She goes by AG. She works for the government. So under the hatch-act

She's not allowed to associate her full name with her political views But if I could just let her ask you a quick question, here she is. You are a starage advocate for veterans and that a lot of the Democratic candidates, and not necessarily that you're running against, but just in general, seem to be leaving the veterans behind, and I just maybe wanted you to talk a minute about your support of our veterans. Sure, you know, many people don't realize because they haven't, because my husband's not been involved because for the same reason, the HATCH Act, my husband is an Air Force pilot, he's an officer.

And so I'm a military spouse. And I understand in many ways that civilians may not understand, the absolute sacrifices that not only are men and women who are serving furiously in our military make, but also their family. And to me, it begins even when they're serving, making sure we have someone in Congress who is going to ensure that every avenue of diplomacy is explored before we send any more men and women off into battle. And I was asked in an interview, well, how much more money does the VA need? Obama put XMAT millions of dollars into it.

How much more do we need? And my response was, well, how many more men and women are you going to send over seeds? Because we need to have the amount that it takes to send over seeds by a multitude of 10 times, sitting and ready, and waiting for them when they come home. So I definitely want to ensure that we have not only, or taking care of them when they are enlisted and actually

serving our country, we need to make sure that we are getting back the right to declare acts of war, back into the hands of Congress, that we are, again, exploring every avenue of diplomacy, including martial plans. You know, I'm really a big fan of some of the bills that Tulsi Gabbard's putting out, making sure that we're taking care of our men and women serving, but also taking care in the VA and ensuring that it's properly funded.

We hear a lot of people pushing back actually that are trying to use the veterans as a reason why not to go forward right now with expanded and improved Medicare for all. But what many people don't realize is that every two years, our veterans are at the mercy of whoever's in office to extend the provision that allows them to see private physicians and care providers if they're not able to get into a VA. We need to make sure that they have an option, that they have Medicare for all, like everyone else,

and are able to get their needs taken care of without worrying about transportation to the nearest VA. But we also need to make sure that they have the option of getting that private care in addition to having VA for specialized care as well. And then when we talk about veterans, we also have to talk about messaging to businesses. And everyone's like, well, what can we do to help veterans transition?

And one of my opponents is saying we need to give them education. I'm like, well, other veterans are actually very educated. And they manage multi-million dollar assets. They manage large groups of people. They have tons of skill sets. What we need to do a better job is translating that to private companies and using our platform and using our sway and legislation to help really create incentive to hiring veterans and making sure they're taking care of.

So really there are things that aren't veteran specific, but then there are things that as we go through and we put the legislation in that's intersectional and if we can get this legislation passed, we'll exponentially improve the lives of our vets as well. Thank you Amy. Yeah, we have a really supportive population to veterans and for health care rights and everything that you're talking about right now. I know our listeners are totally on board and I think you can count on them if they're in your district to support you. And we'll make sure that they have all the information they need to follow you in your campaign.

I did just have a quick question since we are a Mueller related podcast specifically. I was hoping that we could ask you a question a little bit on the Mueller investigation. Is that something you've been following pretty closely over the last few months? You know, I'm following what's happening, of course, as I'm gearing up to take a seat in the house and I'm watching what's happening. You know, I definitely believe that we should be fierce protectors of our democracy and that we should definitely investigate any perceived threats to our democracy.

But I also think that we should equally and be looking at what's happening to our democracy here at home within our own boundaries. You know, we have right now people's rights to vote being taken away from them, speaking specifically about people who have felonies. We have gerrymandering. We have rigging going on in different elections.

There are a lot of problems we have with our democracy here, just in our own home country that we also need to be giving equal air time. I would really like to see a more comprehensive discussion around our election process and some of the major issues that we have that are impeding that to be as democratic as possible and inclusive of everyone in this country and really working to get

may have everyone feel like they have a seat at the table that they have a voice and helping giving them a reason to vote. You know, those are things that to me are equally as important and I think what would really has stressed me out about this is that this is given, while we do need to look into this and definitely be following it, I also want to make sure that it's not observing all the other coverage needs to be going on on things like the ADA losing its teeth and its strength and its power and the rights of people disabilities being pulled away are schools are under attack

HUD you know the rights of our LGBTQIA community we have so many things going on and I think sometimes we get so so hyper focused on one issue that they're they are able right now because the outrage is not being portrayed from the public and the community at large on all the other things that they're doing that are also a great danger to our democracy. You're absolutely right Amy, there are so many issues that we need to get to work on and fast in our country. I wanted to ask one more question just touching on something you touched on and that answer

and it's regarding the blue wave that we're all hoping for in Congress and I wanted to ask one more question, just touching on something you touched on and that answer. And it's regarding the blue wave that we're all hoping for in Congress. And I wanted to ask you, what do you think are some of the biggest impediments to a potential blue wave that we're facing right now? I see too many Democrats running as the anti-Trump. And they keep on thinking that the status quo and what the way they've

run before is going to ignite people to come out and vote. Many people may disagree with me, but I do not feel that Trump won just because he's a racist, really disgusting human being, in my opinion. He won mostly because he was running on a populist platform. He didn't mean anything. He said, at all, but he was promising everyone's going to have health care. I'm going to make sure everyone has health care. We're not going to touch your social security.

Everyone's going to have a job. I'm going to bring all the jobs back home. I'm going to, and he went down this list of things that are really specific to what people are needing right now. Democrats have to stop fighting from the right of Trump. They need to go left and they need to go hard left. They need to remember what our party is supposed to be. It's supposed to be the party of the people and they need to start really pushing and giving people a reason to come out and vote,

giving them hope and not only just giving them hope, but whoever's elected in 2018 needs to be showing that we are going to fight and stand up and have a backbone. And you can come out and be excited again about being a Democrat. That is what we're doing. We have a large dem exit.

We have to, we have to realign our party back to what our party is supposed to be and back to the values that we all, you know, say, every time we're out there campaigning and show them that when we say we are the party, the people that we mean it, we are going to do a federal job guarantee with a new green deal on it. We're going to ensure everyone has health care with expanded and improved Medicare for all. That we're going to make sure you have a livable wage. We're going to make sure that we're taking care of our immigrants, brothers and sisters

in this country, because we're going to have a backbone when it comes time, when it comes down to making sure bills don't pass without a clean dream act. These are things that Democrats really need to embrace. And running on the same old, same old, look, we're better than the other guy, that's not going to ignite people to the polls. And unfortunately, the D-Triple C is coming in and putting its weight down on a lot of different races,

including mine, and trying to eliminate the progressive candidates that are actually igniting the people. And that is probably, that's the biggest scare to the blue waves that's happening right now. Thank you Amy. We seriously are so on your side. We're so thankful that you were here. We wanna make sure all of our listeners know

where they can find you. Can you give us a quick shout out of your website and social media so they can find you. Can you give us a quick shout out of your website and social media so they can follow your key screen? Sure. And my website is Amy, the number four, thepeople.com. My Twitter is at Amy, the number four, the people. And you can find me on Facebook at Amy for the people.

It's pretty simple to remember. Definitely reach out. We are in the last eight days of this primary and we could use all the volunteers we can, if you don't live in Nevada, you can donate or you can volunteer even to do phone banking for us. This is a community effort. When you are a true grassroots progressive candidate,

you are representing a representation of the people and we only make it with the support of the people. And we have power. You know, everyone says, well, we can't do anything. We can, because when we're all together and we're working toward a common goal, we are a force to be reckoned with. And we saw this down in Florida with the students

and we can do it through this election. Reach out and help the candidates that are in the last days of their primary. So, thank, donate, do whatever you can because you do have power. It's time for us to use it. Thank you so much, Amy. We believe in you and your campaign so much. Listeners, you heard it. If you're in the district, if you're able to donate any of your time to Amy's campaign,

please do follow her. Amy Volella, she's running for her fourth district. It's the fourth district of Nevada for a congressional seat. She is fantastic. Please read into her story, read into her platform and support her in any way that you can.

Amy, thank you so much for being on our podcast today. Thanks for having me. All right, we'll talk to you later. Bye-bye. All right, you guys. Thank you so much for listening. We've had a super packed week and we're glad you're here and we can't thank you enough for your support. We love you all so much. I can't and the wine glasses are incredible.

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