Jack - Mueller Catches A New Case (feat. The Scotts: Stedman and Dworkin)

Episode Date: October 8, 2018

Ep #49 - Joining us this week is Scott Stedman (investigative journalist) and Scott Dworkin (The Dworkin Report). Also, Jaleesa gives us another update on the Seychelles meeting, Jordan covers the lat...est on Devin Nunes, and A.G. breaks down the new email hack that was referred to the Mueller investigation. Enjoy! Register to Vote HERE: https://vote.gov 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Teacher Quit Talk, I'm Misredacted, and I'm Mrs. Frazzled. Every week we explore the teacher exodus to find out what if anything could get these educators back in the classroom. We've all had our moments where we thought, what the hell am I doing here? From burnout to bureaucracy to soul-sucking stressors and creative dead ends, from recognizing when it was time to go, to navigating feelings of guilt and regret afterwards, we're here to cut off a gaslighting and get real about what it means to leave teaching. We've got insights from former teachers from all over the country who have seen it all, so get ready to be disturbed and join us on Teacher Quit Talk to laugh through the pain
Starting point is 00:00:31 of the U.S. education system. We'll see you there. Hey Mueller junkies, thanks to Skillshare for supporting Mueller She wrote this week. Skillshare is offering Mueller She wrote listeners two months of unlimited access to over 20,000 classes for just 99 cents. To sign up, go to Skillshare.com-AG. That's Skillshare.com-AG to get two months of unlimited access of over 20,000 classes for just 99 cents. So to be clear, Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs.
Starting point is 00:01:18 That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously what the opposition is. I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two and that campaign and I didn't have, and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for? I have nothing to do with Putin. I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're
Starting point is 00:01:45 able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So it is political. You're a communist. No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession on a capitalist. Hello and welcome to Muller She Wrote. I'm your anonymous host, A.G. and with me as always is Julie Sejonson. Hello. And Jordan Coburn. Hello. Hello. And we do have Politicon in a couple of weeks at the LA Convention Center.
Starting point is 00:02:17 We'll be doing a live show and recording the weekly pod from our booth. So grab tickets online now. Our live show will be Saturday the 20th at 3pm. But after a politic on, I'm taking my first vacation in a year, going off the grid, I need to take some time before we get back for the election. And we're planning to do a live broadcast election night. I don't know how we're going to do that, but we're going to... I have some ideas. We'll talk about it. We'll make it happen. And we'll have more details on that for you as it approaches. So you can spend your election night with us having wine. Yay! We have a very
Starting point is 00:02:51 molar centric show for you this week. We've been focusing a lot on Cavanaugh these last couple weeks and how that impacts the molar investigation, but a lot of important news dropped this week surrounding the molar investigation. We have Scott Dworkin coming on to tell us about the report that the Dem Coalition filed this week about Lindsey Graham crackers. We have Scott Dworkin coming on to tell us about the report that the Dem Coalition filed this week about Lindsey Graham Crackers. And we have Scott Stedman with us to discuss a major story he just broke about Simone Manjante. Got to pop it up, weird ass fiance.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Nice. That sounds like a rap lyric. Pop it up. Yeah. Simone Manjante, pop it up. Oh, how's your ass fiance? You don't want to miss that. So we have two scots. Hey, Pionte. Oh, how's Pionte? Pognaz, Pionte. You don't want to miss that. So we have two scots.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Hey, Scott! Oh! If this Scott is a soda. Double dose of Scott. Yeah. Double dose, two scots for Double Dose of Pimpness. I'm scared. I'm excited to hear about his wife.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah. It's going to be interesting. Also this week, Jolise is going to give us another update on Eric Prince and the Seychelles. And Jordan has some shocking shit that Devonuno has tried to sneak by voters. I'm going to talk about the new email hack that was just referred to the Mueller investigation to the special counsel's office. But before we get to the news, we have a hilarious correction from our Brexit mini-sode, I think. And the pronunciation of the word checkers.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yeah. We sat around like douchebags and tried to make it super French. I think I win the douchebag award on that one. I like it though. I said, check it. Yeah. And then I asked you to spell it, and you had had the French thing in my head. So when you spelled it, I was like, yeah, I guess that's Shakira. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Shakira. Shakira. So it's just pronounced checkers. So there you go. It's so fitting that we were douche's. We're over-analysed. Le douche about... well that's a shower in France. Yeah, that's a little different. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's just a shower. Yeah, that would be sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my basic French and I never took French but I know it. Le douche de v d'Evigine, I think is what it's called.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Oh, I'm sorry. Twatch hours. I forget how you saved a giant French. They didn't teach you that in high school. Surprise. I wonder what. Yeah. We have a lot of news to get to this week. You guys, let's just get into it with just the facts.
Starting point is 00:05:01 So, Sunday, we found something out about Devon Nunez that could seriously hurt his chances against Andrew Jans. If the voters something out about Devon Nunes that could seriously hurt his chances against Andrew Jans if the voters find out about it in their district house race and Jordan will have the details about her ex-boyfriend later in the show. You guys broke up, right? Oh yeah we're done. Cool. Good for you man. Yeah man. Way to walk away. Thank you. Also, yeah, I bet it was. Also Sunday the New York Times dropped a story about migrant children being moved undercover of darkness to a Texas tent city from Kansas.
Starting point is 00:05:32 This is seriously some shit out of a movie, you guys. They were loaded onto buses and taken to a camp in West Texas under the, you know, in the middle of the night, basically, to this place in the desert. Prior to Trump, most migrant kids were housed in private foster homes or shelters with two to three, two to three of them to a room, and they got formal schooling and nutritious meals, along with regular visits, with legal representation, people who were assigned to their cases. Now, they're being bust in the middle of the night to beige tents, 20 to a room, no school, and limited access to legal services. The vets are now
Starting point is 00:06:09 detaining about 13,000 of these children. Five times as many as the year before on average, so don't pull that Obama did this shit with me. They're being detained for an average of 60 days. Several shelter workers say that these moves are carried out late at night to avoid escape attempts. What? And that just sounds chilling. And these kids are given little to no notice of the moves because to avoid escape attempts.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Again, these kids wear belts with their phone numbers stitched on them of their emergency contacts. This shit is happening. How is this not a concentration camp by all measures? It seems to look like an internment camp. If you google it It just says it's a camp where you keep people of a certain group with nesity your color and you just hold them for political reason Yeah, just like summer camp. Yeah, just like summer camp. Yeah, so this is really gross and it's still happening We need to keep remembering that because it's not it's not going away. It's getting worse
Starting point is 00:07:01 Monday a political reporter spotted man of lawyers, Richard Westling and Tom's, what, Zenle. They were outside talking to Andrew Weissman, one of Mueller's lead prosecutors, and they were outside the special counsel's office in downtown DC. Manafort was apparently inside meeting with prosecutors after he pleaded guilty inside a cooperation agreement for full cooperation, by the way. Sentencing for Manafort is not yet scheduled, but in a there's a joint written report from both sides that is due to the court, November 16th, by November 16th, they usually turn it in on the day it's due, and I think that might give us a glimpse into when we can expect the collusion indictments to drop, and then Manafort, his sentencing can be scheduled.
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Starting point is 00:08:14 At least they know we're not using auto-tune or something. That's true, yeah. It'd be really funny. There's a drop that in one episode and a T-Pain sound. Oh my god. Someday, guys. Boom. Shoday, fuck. That's, guys. Oh, shut it.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Fucked. That's beautiful. All right. Also Monday, Politico reported that Roger Stone associate, credit co, will plead the fifth in response to the Senate's subpoena for testimony and documents. Credit co is the comedian radio show host with a dog in a bag that needs, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:41 he's that guy. He's that kind of weird guy. And I was making fun of him. But people were like, no, he's really funny. And's that kind of weird guy and I was making fun of him but people were like, no, he's really funny and I'm like, I don't know a quick column of comedian, you're making this bad for comedians, but I don't know, I thought he was weird, but he's gonna plead the fifth and pleading the fifth means that what you say, you're not gonna say something because it will incriminate you. So so much for his assertion that he's just this innocent guy, we'll see if they offer him immunity to get the goods on stone. I can't imagine they give a shit about credit go unless he was more than just to go between for a sange and stone.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And even then, they're really just going after stone. I don't know what you guys think. I don't think they'll just want to stone. I think they'll give him immunity. Yeah. Yeah. I was hoping Stone would be at a political in this year, but Carter Pagewell. So, you know, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, I know. I'm trying to get him. I'm sure. Do you think he's seeking immunity? I don't know. He's such a weird dude that it's kind of hard to tell what he's thinking. And, you know, I don't want to pass judgment. Maybe something real bad happened to him
Starting point is 00:09:34 and he needs the emotional support animal and he's got like a lot of anxiety. I totally get that. But like, I don't know what he did to help Trump collude with Russia. Right. And if it's substantial, he should be held accountable. I don't know what he did to help Trump collude with Russia. Right. And if it's substantial, he should be held accountable.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But also, I don't think he's important enough. I think Stone is who they're after. Yeah. So I think, if personally, if it were me, I'd grant him immunity to roll stone. Rolling stone. Rolling stone. It's fun saying all the different ways people who are guilty try to get out of you know giving testimony. Yeah You've got a
Starting point is 00:10:08 Miller whole yeah, I'm gonna say Miller. Yeah, I'm so content. I'm so fun content We got missy legitimacy of literally everything in the universe. That's every existence. Oh, yeah, miss a dying Yeah, no, I was gonna say killing himself who knows hiding. Sorry. Yeah, we don't know that yet. That's conjecture. True, yes, that part is. Oh, we're showing just the facts, I forgot. Yeah, yeah. And I always forget that like everyone who's listening right now, I, for some reason,
Starting point is 00:10:33 it's in my mind that you've heard and remember everything we've said for the last year, and that's can't be the case. So if we skip past something, it doesn't make sense. She doesn't email. Hello, a muller she wrote. Say, what, what have for you talking about? Yeah. And we'll see if we can clarify it for you. I.E, Nunes is not my real ex-boyfriend. Correct. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Right. That didn't really happen. Then Tuesday, and that wasn't, that sounded like I was being facetious. I wasn't. It actually didn't happen. Oh yeah. Yeah. Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal reported that Trump actually directed legal action to enforce the Stormy Daniels hush agreement. According to reports, Trump personally instructed Cohen to seek a restraining order against Stormy back in February when he heard she was going to give the media interviews about the affair. Trump told Cohen to speak to his sons, Don Jr., and Nosferatu, about the legal response efforts. The Trump org has previously denied involvement in the hush agreement, and we'll see what Avanatti does with this in terms of maybe filing a civil suit against a Trump
Starting point is 00:11:28 org so we can put some beans on it. Oh yeah, he'll be a political on two. Really? Headlining with Kathy Griffin. Oh, that's right. She's going to have a chat with him. Yeah. That's the only thing I think she's doing that weekend. Exactly. Also Tuesday, two key lawyers left their posts at the special counsel's office and returned to their jobs at main justice. So Brandon, Von Grack and Kyle Freeney, two of the key lawyers that worked on the Manafort case are going back to their prior posts, according to a rare statement from Mueller spokesman Peter Carr. Van Grack worked on the national security division
Starting point is 00:12:26 and Frini will be returning to her job in the criminal division's money laundering and asset recovery section. These departures bring Mueller's team down to 13 hard and Democrat. This should signal we're nearing the end. Jim Comey tweeted, looks like that the Mueller investigation is in the fourth quarter now.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So we're in a critical phase with the meeting of Manafort and Mueller on Monday. There are several reports that will be due in quick succession from both Mueller and federal prosecutors just after the midterms as they moved to sentence Manafort, Flynn and Cohen, which is now the SDNY case, Southern District of New York. I agree with the experts that this is winding down now because the staffing change, if they were just changing staff, that would be detrimental to knowledge and momentum at this point. So we could have a really nice Christmas, so put some Thanksgiving beans on it. Yeah. Then Tuesday, a pretty weird but pretty big story came out about a never-trumper who was hacked, whose emails were hacked, and how that incident has now been referred to Robert Mueller's team.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And I'll go over that a bit later in the show. Also on Tuesday, that giant story in the New York Times about Trump's lifelong family tax schemes came out. And this report was amazing for you guys. I don't know if you read it or if you saw any of the news on it. Oh yeah. But some of the tricks that they pulled to avoid paying estate tax, inheritance tax, tax
Starting point is 00:13:47 tax, regular tax, all like tolls. All told they avoided like $412 million in tax. They were sneaky. I heard about the poker chips or the gambling chips scheme. Yeah, basically what happened was Trump had a bill due at one of his Atlantic city casinos as quarterly taxes, I think, and he didn't have enough money to pay it So his dad, Fred, who was really weird looking at me, look at this picture And then that's going on with his ears
Starting point is 00:14:14 It's an understatement, weird looking, and I will Look, shame him, sorry if you don't like it It's temple shame, his head goes in like someone bashed both sides of his head in Yeah, I'm not convinced he's human. So we're like demon-chaming at this point. Yeah, yeah, lizard-chaming. Yeah, I like lizards. It's only his soul that makes him truly. Yeah, yeah. If he was a good person, we wouldn't be saying any of this. That's correct. We'll still get emails. So basically what he did was he sent a guy into the casino to buy three point, I think, one five million chips and just walked out of the casino with him.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Several times, didn't gamble at all. And then send another guy back to do two 50, or three 50, or something like that. A three point five million all told, so that he could get that infusion of cash from his dad tax-free to pay this business expense. Well, you can't print money, but you can print chips. I'm not sure can have.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And then I'm not big on like money stuff. So when I heard this, it did sound really sketchy, but like, is there a way for you to break down in layman's terms, like, by how did he funnel it? Like, by taking the money and making it into chips, there's like a law that says, you don't get, you don't tax that kind of transaction, is that how it works? Oh, no, no, he needed three million dollars. And so in order to give the casino three million dollars, he basically walked in with cash, bought three million dollars worth of, like, buying three million dollars worth of drinks
Starting point is 00:15:36 at the bar. Got it. Got it. But you could never drink that many drinks, but you could buy that many chips and then not using the chips to gamble. There we go. Yeah, yeah. And keeping them, that's a way of handing $3 million,
Starting point is 00:15:46 $3.5 million over to the casino in profits. Now, yeah, you would have to pay taxes in the profits, but you didn't have to pay taxes on the gift. And that's probably a higher tax, too, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's, I think, 55%. Yeah. Capital gains tax. Because you only get one gift per, anyway, it's tax.
Starting point is 00:16:04 But that was how, that was a way that the, another sneaky thing, that the worst thing I think, tax because you only get one gift per any way it's tax. But that was how that was a way that the other sneaky thing that did the worst thing I think, the thing that really F's over taxpayers and regular people is that they were laundering money by opening a company, like a shell company, and they would buy, like, let's say, a boiler for the building at like $10,000, they would say they paid 50,000 for it and they would just pocket that 40,000. So what they were doing was they were inflating the cost of these things for the buildings.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And then they were using those padded receipts to justify raising the rent on the tenants in rent control departments. Wow. So they were falsifying things to raise regular people's rent. Claiming they had done more to it, but they really just took the money and upgrades. Yeah. And they were pocketing that additional cash.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And I'm sure to them this was no big deal. Like, I feel like this was just like business as usual. But I love the fact that it's coming out now while he's still alive, because there's a chance that he might actually go down for it. But this was his whole career, right? This is what they did, his whole life, his dad's career. And a lot of this has passed his statute of limitations. But I think the important part here is that Trump ran on the fact that he was a South made millionaire billionaire.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And he's not. He had, he was given a salary of $200,000 by the time he was two years old. He was a millionaire by the time he was eight. He didn't take a small $1 million loan that he parlayed into ten billion dollars from his father. He was given his, him and his siblings were giving a billion dollars over their lives from their father. And he was funneling it to them in a way where he didn't have to pay taxes. They didn't pay inheritance taxes, gift taxes, etc. So many loopholes. And they conned you and me and all the American people out of 412 million, half a billion dollars almost.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yeah. And Trump's supporters are gonna be fine with it. The way Trump's supporters see it is, yeah, see, he, you know, he's smart. We like him for tricking the man. We like him for bucking the system. We support him for being a smart, savvy business man. It's true, I've heard it, yeah. It's unbelievable. Yeah. But like, how do you
Starting point is 00:18:08 have money? Exactly. How do you just gloss over the fact that it's to fuck you? Well, they're aholes. If they were in that position too, they would cheat their neighbor. That and people that usually do that, they're also just not good people in other areas. So I assume that their race isn't probably as deeper than their concern for money and tax laws. And you know, they're just like, this is our guy. So whatever he did, it's already done. Yeah, that's something else. Sorry, go ahead. Sorry, I was just going to say, from the article, that's crazy to see. So you talked about how Trump was a salaryed employee by the age of three making $200,000 or something. And then so then reading on to learn that his dad would do
Starting point is 00:18:45 other things, like pay him as a consultant, as a landlord, as a property mayor. Oh yeah, that must feel weird as a kid, to be exploited for finance, like financial to bear, like that for, yeah, it's really to happen to Fred. So, I mean, it's just something that kind of shitty shitness is something you hand down from generation to generation. And that's why we don't like people who go to Georgetown Prep.
Starting point is 00:19:09 This week, in Republicans say the dumbest things. Late Tuesday, Trump lamented, whoa, whoa, are the very young men in America because it's such a scary time for young men in America. Yeah, tell that to Brock Turner. I hope that guys, I really hope guys sit around at night, scared out of their minds, wondering what steps they'll need to take to ensure they're safety every day.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I hope that when they go to the store or walk home at night or when they're out having drinks with friends, that they have to worry about all those predatory women just waiting to drug them so we can falsely accuse them of rape. And Friday, Grassley said, there's no woman on the Senate Judiciary because it's too much work for them. Coming from a guy who hired a woman to question Blase Ford, a guy who relies on women to do his dirty work, and amidst the Kavanaugh shit show, Grassley has to go.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And grizzly? Seriously. He complains about how it's unfair that the left paints the GOP with this old white man stereotype. And yet he continues to be an old white man. He has to fire the old white man stereotype and shore it up. He comes out with this magnificent bullshit that just reinforces that stereotype. There's women, again, it's too, it's not a work to be on the judiciary committee.
Starting point is 00:20:27 There's four female Democrats. He's the same one that said that Dr. Four was pleasing, right? No, it was orange hatch. You know, I get it mixed up for a reason. Dude, all white men look the same. All Republicans look the same. Yeah, that's true. And then Mike Pence said in a speech this week that China is interfering in our elections
Starting point is 00:20:44 in a much bigger way than Russia Oh, and they're fighting to elect Democrats This is easily and simply just Trump's way of laying the groundwork for a huge loss So he can blame China instead of himself for the blue wave. Yeah, though speaking of China this week French police are investigating the disappearance of an interpol guy He was the chief named Meng Hong Wei who was reported missing after traveling to his native China from his home in Leol. Chai Leol. I like that.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Actually French. Yeah, it's not pronounced lion. Well, L-E-O-N? L-Y-O-L-L-L-Y-O I like it, yeah. China has said that Meng was taken into custody for questioning when he arrived, but they didn't say why. Apparently China has a long history of disappearing human rights activists and counterterrorism specialists.
Starting point is 00:21:28 We don't know what if any ties this might have to Russia or Russian or Chinese and Russian efforts to dismantle Western democracies, but we will keep you posted. Fine. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I just gonna say, do you think that that was a talking point
Starting point is 00:21:42 put in their heads by Steve Bannon? Because he seems to be the one that originated a lot of their anti-China rhetoric. That makes sense. Yeah. I think they're behind the scenes friends. I think they're low down low friends again. Mm-hmm. Not like down low. I was gonna say, what do you know, A.G.? I'm not gay shaming. Um, then let's see, Wednesday. Finally, Wednesday happened. Tuesday was news day again. And we learned Eric
Starting point is 00:22:05 Prince. He had his Russian connection to Demetri of, was snooping around Trump land for Putin and Jelisa will have that for us. So they were actually kind of trolling, not trolling, but trawling, like, you know, putting out a net and trying to fish all the, all those many Trump people into the, into the net as they could. Jelisa is going to go over that later. Then Thursday a story came out about Simone Mangiante, Papa Doppel's fiance. And how about she, how about this?
Starting point is 00:22:34 She might not be who she says she is. Oh, really? We, we, we've talked about this. Remember when we had Seth on? Yeah, we'll talk about it in a second. Let's play that interview. And joining us today to discuss some of the inconsistencies he's uncovered is the author of the story and friend of the podcast, Scott Stedman. Scott, welcome back to Mollershi
Starting point is 00:22:54 Road. Thank you so much for having me. It's so good to have your voice back, not just on the pod, but in the news as well. It was missed dearly. So here on Mueller, she wrote, we've always had, we've always thought there was something off about Simone Mangiante and through some pretty amazing investigative reporting, you've been able to uncover several inconsistencies in who she claims to be. Can you tell us a little bit about what you were able to find? she claims to be, can you tell us a little bit about what you were able to find? Sure, yeah. I've always had the same feeling as you guys. It's been a little bit weird that she started the whole thing saying that George was going to be the jaundine of this investigation.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And then, you know, a few short months later, George was set up by our intelligence agencies and the professor is actually a British spy. So her story changed pretty quickly and it was a complete 180. But as far as my story, so I spent a few weeks looking into Samona and basically just picking apart her resume, her public resume, what she told reporters. And I began contacting all of her previous employers that she said she worked for as well
Starting point is 00:24:16 as her schools that she attended. And the most glaring inconsistency in her story is she said that she was an associate for Mayor Brown, which is a big global law firm based in DC in New York. That was her supposedly her 2007 and 2008. That's what she was doing. She was a lawyer starting in DC and then moving to New York. But I contacted them and they said they have no record of her ever working there.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And she tried to downplay this by saying, oh, I was a junior associate and then now she's saying she was just an intern. So I made sure to ask them, hey, is it possible that she was just an intern or a junior associate or something like that? And they said, no, she, she hasn't worked for us in any capacity. We have no records of her ever being here.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Okay, so not even as an intern, not even as a janitor, she didn't even sweep up. She just was never there on the payroll in any capacity, whatsoever. Right, right. And there's no records of anything. She has posted after my article came out, she's posted a letter, purporting to be from one of the partners at the law firm. It's an internship offer letter. But again, they don't have any records of her working there. I suppose it's possible that she had some sort of side deal with this partner who I haven't been able to get a hold of yet, but they have absolutely no records of her being there in 2007 and 2008. That seems really odd and I was
Starting point is 00:26:03 reading your story and it turns out you also had spoken to some of some of the family members about her. What were you able to find there? I have. I've spoken to two of her family members and one of her colleagues from her prior work in Europe and they basically have the same concerns that me and you and many other people have. Her story doesn't add up. So I was reading your article
Starting point is 00:26:31 and you had also said that you had been in contact with some family. Who were you able to talk to? That's right. I've been in touch with members of, I mean, I have to be careful here. I don't wanna give away who I was talking to, but I've been in touch with members of her extended family and Georgia's family, as well as a colleague of hers from her work in Europe. And basically, they have the same concerns that me and you have, and that many people have. They're very concerned that she's not who she's said she is and that her
Starting point is 00:27:08 background doesn't add up, it doesn't make a lot of sense. One of the big things that her family and Georgia's family stress to me was her age. When they first met Georgian Samona, she was telling Georgia's family, and even George, according to these family members, that she was 30 years old, and there's been a few articles about that. She said she's 30. Her profile for the European Parliament where she works said she was born in 1984, which make her 34, but her actually just 37, and she'll be 38 in a couple of months. So basically that makes you know a seven-year gap of a big question mark.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And she doesn't really pop up onto the radar anywhere until 2009. So we have the first 20 something plus years of her life where we don't know where she is, we don't know where she grew up, where she went to school. And it's just a big question mark. So they have the same concerns that we do. Do you have any theories about why this is, why there's just such this big mystery? I mean, you know, big part of Jesus' life was missing too. But like, what do you, I don't know, do you want to share any theories about this? Because I'm going to go on some wild conjecture after we hang up. But anything you would care to postulate?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Sure, yeah, I mean, I don't want to conclude who she is as a person. You know, people have been saying, she's a spy all the way to she's telling the truth, which I tend to believe it's somewhere in the middle. People lie about their age sometimes. But Mueller's team thought that she might be a spy. And she has said said that they were concerned about her work at the European Parliament and how that's basically sometimes a cover-up
Starting point is 00:29:10 for spy jobs. So they had that concern, the public has that concern, and her background doesn't add up. So you can draw what you want from that, but there's a lot of inconsistencies in her story and friends are concerned, family are concerned, and the public is concerned. All right, well, everyone, you can check out this story on medium.com. It's Scott M. Stedman. And also, I hear you have a book coming out.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Tell us about that. I do have a book. I just finished that contract this morning. It's with Skyhorse Publishing in Manhattan. And it's going to be a compilation of my stories as well as new and original reporting and kind of a peek behind the curtain as to how I did it, you know, still in college for most of my reporting career. And, you know, how the stories fit into the bigger picture. I don't know. I think you're a spy. I think you're lying about your age. I wouldn't tell you if I was. No, that's cool. I'm really glad.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And we'll look for that. We'll make sure to have you back on one that book comes out. So everyone, friend of the pod, and you can check out his Primo social Twitter feed at what is it? PrimoSocial.com slash Scott Stedman, correct? That is right. That's all I'm making a living right now. So I'd appreciate it if people check that out. It's $3.95 a month or $40 for the year. Super cheap and totally worth it. That's a really incredible feed. All the news that you break, it's your going places and we really appreciate you being on here so thanks so much again Scott Stadman I appreciate that thank you so yeah I remember when we had Seth on in episode 44
Starting point is 00:30:53 and we asked him about his March tweet regarding pop-a-dot being in Italy and how Darapaska's yacht was in the Mediterranean and Nastya Ribka was was there with pop-a-dop and I wonder if that's when Pop-A-Dop met Mangyante. And I have to say, I wouldn't be surprised if she's a Russian asset. Maybe one of Dara Paska's women will have to ask Seth when he comes back on the show. He's gonna be coming back with us soon.
Starting point is 00:31:17 There's just something fishy about her, her accents off. I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna go ahead and guess. I'm gonna have some conjecture here. I think she's Slovakian Escort assets sent by Darapaska damn holy shit AG this needs to be a facet of our fantasy entitlement. Yeah, what country is he actually from seriously beans? Yeah big beans right there big beans Lending on your face
Starting point is 00:31:39 Sorry, that's great. I mean it can't tell we're drinking wine today. Yeah It's been a while since we drank. I have my hand over the bubbly because it's so loud. You're in the bubbly? Yeah, that's pretty. Yeah, you're going to take it off and it's going to go phew. Like pop rocks. Science.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah, we had to after what happened today. We just got done watching the Vot. The confirmation vote. Yeah, we're going to talk about that in a little bit. Thursday reports circulated from the Daily Beast that a Russian official linked to vessel net sky is dead He's the Russian deputy attorney general. Let's see a bird of itch Karabtian Karabtian. Yeah Corruption Albert corruption nice good old Al corruption. Oh, no. Yeah, Karabtian
Starting point is 00:32:22 Karabtian Karabtian Oh no. Yeah, carapteon. Carapteon. Carapteon. It's like a cheque-like heart. Al checkers. And he died Wednesday in a helicopter crash, helicopter crash in the forest. This seems on its surface to be coincidental, though the flight was unauthorized and it happened in the forest in the middle of nowhere. Kind of near Moscow, but not in.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Right. And both he and Vesonet Skaya are the ones who drafted a signed letter from the Kremlin refusing to help the US in its case against the death of Magnitsky. I highly recommend you check out our episode about Magnitsky. I think it's episode two. Check it out for the content, not for the sound quality. But Putin is cleaning house.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It seems like I don't know how I can't. You know, we'll put together a comprehensive list of how many Russians have died. Seriously. How? Related to this in the dossier in Magnitsky, it's in the interference, it's, he's cleaning house. Anybody who knows about it, there's a barrier. He takes down planes and we already know he kills,
Starting point is 00:33:12 like, you know, civilians, like regular people. Of course, he would shoot down a helicopter. It's nothing for him. Yeah. Someone came up to me and then they had like, Miss Red the headlight and they're like, oh my god, President, it's guy is dead. It was like, what?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Yeah. But then that's still fucking crazy, obviously. Yeah. They do that. Absolutely. They're like, that's all that Skye and the word dead are in bold. Yeah. And then it's like, fine print.
Starting point is 00:33:33 A friend of Essela is gonna work on it. Right, they totally did it. They totally did it. Yeah, I was like, I bet they fell from a top floor of a building, but they switched it up this time. They fell down over again and hit hurt their neck real bad. Yeah, so it broke.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah. Why do you think? Why do you think he's do aside from clearing house, I guess? Like that seems like a really close person to the center. I mean, I guess that's what anybody who was involved in your dirty work to be able to say that there was dirty work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I think you'll get you loyal to like if I send out a hitman to kill somebody, then I would probably have that hitman killed too. Mm-hmm. No, not that I would do. I've seen that with like, please, don't. Uh-oh, we're in trouble. Yeah, the closer you get to the king, you're not safer. You know?
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah, no. And if you're asked to do dirty work for Putin, you shouldn't expect to be alive for long. If so, does missing. Yeah, I guess you're kind of fucked either way if you say yes or no. You don't have a choice. Usually no. You don't have a choice. You don't have a choice.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You don't have a choice and you have a better chance of living if you do his bidding. But he's gonna know witnesses. Yeah, we're so high. Anybody who could shitty work, that's still sex. Anybody who could testify against him, I mean, you know, and just to be safe, like if he actually sent this guy out to do all this, you know, corrupt bullshit and then somehow the Americans got a hold of him Like his private jet landed in Newark and we confiscated him confiscated arrested and then brought him in Putin doesn't want to take that chance because this guy could talk
Starting point is 00:34:54 Exactly. So that'd be fun to do him any said maybe one day on how culpable we think these people are morally Totally under a sort of Putin like regime. Mm-hmm. Like the one we're under. Okay. Yeah Under a sort of Putin-like regime. Like the one we're under. Okay, yeah. On Friday, Senator Collins made her big speech, which was just a 45-minute long-hand job for Kavanaugh. And I'll talk more about that in a second. But Jen Socky, a former White House communications director,
Starting point is 00:35:18 tweeted out, quote, who wants to run for Senate in Maine? There will be an army of supporters with you, unquote. And Susan Rice, Obama's national security advisor and UN ambassador replied, me. Yeah. I heard she backed out though, what's the case? What's the deal?
Starting point is 00:35:31 I didn't think she backed out. I thought she said, you know, we're, we're, I hope so. I hope so. I hope she's still in. Well, Dan Siphers said, do it soon. Timing is everything. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:41 He's right. Yeah. That's how, why Obama won? It was that right time, right place, zeitgeist movement. Yes. And that's why when we asked him, who's going to win the DEM nomination in 2020, he's like, I can't tell you that right now. There's no way to know because someone will have a moment and you won't know who has
Starting point is 00:35:57 their moment until the moment happens. Exactly. And especially till the midterm is happening because there's some people that are on fire right now. Oh yeah. Beto. I'm going to make a wine pouring sound. Ready? And we'll do it. Someone's gonna love that.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I didn't. It'll be like a ASMR. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Just pouring wine everywhere. Get some pickles. And you guys have literally had half a glass. So if I'm acting weird, it's because I'm really trying to block out some of the shit that happened this week. So I do apologize for that, but not really. So yeah, go Susan Rice. In related news, remember the ethics complaint that the Dem Coalition filed against Kavanaugh, Scott Dworkin, about a month ago, we talked about it on the pod and how it would be Merrick Garland who would be Ironically reviewing that complaint and Jordan and I wondered if he would have to recuse himself here take a listen
Starting point is 00:36:58 I appreciate it. Did they not have any sort of conflict of interest rules? I was thinking that like shouldn't he recuse himself from this case? Yeah, yeah, like, shouldn't he recuse himself from this case? And he might. Yeah, like, I'm a bitter bitch. But, you know, maybe not. I mean, if Kavanaugh won't recuse himself from Mattress coming up to the court that involved Trump,
Starting point is 00:37:14 he, by the way, he said he, he wouldn't, he wouldn't agree to that. Yeah. I don't think he's a bitch. Sorry, that was strictly for the illiteration. Ha, ha, ha. Well, guys, breaking news today, Saturday from Buzzfeedfeed and I got in a message from Scott Dworkin saying Garland is recusing himself
Starting point is 00:37:32 High five Jordan beans come true. Yeah, beans. I spoke to Scott Dworkin about who said it's a sign that this complaint is being taken Seriously and that it can apparently carry through despite his confirmation, Kavanaugh's confirmation. Damn. We'll keep some beans on that. Tell ya. Keep beans on your eyes. I don't know. Watch this beans. You trying to know what I'm doing?
Starting point is 00:37:51 You're doing cucumbers. Watch these space beans. I don't want to talk about that. That's my favorite. All right. And speaking of fighting the confirmation, Kavanaugh was confirmed by the Senate after Senator Collins abandoned her constituency and spent 45 minutes on the Senate floor
Starting point is 00:38:07 retraumatizing millions of women basically. She's either gonna have to retire or she's gonna lose in 2020 when she's up for reelection. Over 400 people were arrested this week protesting the nomination including a whole lot of men and my pussy hats off to you for being amazing allies. We need you and we thank you for the support. for being amazing allies. We need you and we thank you for the support. A dipshit Republican was asked on CNN what he would tell his daughter if she told him that this happened to her and that she had 20 corroborating witnesses that the police refused to talk to. And he actually said that if his daughter had four friends that couldn't corroborate her story, he'd ask her to think twice about her accusation. Oh, also he can go fuck himself basically.
Starting point is 00:38:43 So that's what we're up against you guys. So his own daughter. So I really appreciate the husbands and dads and brothers that are supporting women right now. You are awesome. Thank you. And I tweeted a thread this week saying that politically, the nomination of Kavanaugh is really the best
Starting point is 00:38:59 worst outcome because Kavanaugh is vulnerable now. He could be impeached, he could be undicted, he could be just barred, or investigations could uncover something that would force him to resign. And I got a lot of pushback or at least a little bit of pushback or at least question saying, but is an impeachment really hard? He'll need two-thirds of the vote. He'll probably stay. And that might be true, but my point is simple.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And there's a chance, right? Think for a second. Like, imagine if they'd voted no on Saturday. Trump would then appoint another judge from the Federalist List that has the judicial temperament and would still vote to overturn Roe, impede the rights of workers and the LGBT plus community. And any of those judges from that list
Starting point is 00:39:42 would find in favor of gamble in gamble v. U.S. as would I because he served time and you shouldn't have to serve time twice for the same crime. And none of those judges would be impeachable or indictable or touchable. They'd be untouchable. Oh yeah. They'd likely have nothing to investigate and that person would be there for the next 30 years and there would be nothing we could do about it.
Starting point is 00:40:00 But with Kavanaugh, there's at least a small chance that we can remove him, and a 2% chance is better than a 0% chance. So how do we remove him? Well, first we get the Dems to investigate his past. We get them to investigate the obstruction of the FBI investigation perpetrated by the White House, but we can't even begin to investigate if the Dems don't take back the Gowls next month, so we have to vote. There is no other way to do this, especially women. There are more of us, and we get shit done. And young people, this judge, Kavanaugh, will affect your rights on labor, LGBTQ plus rights, women's health care rights, and reproductive rights. And this will be nearly
Starting point is 00:40:40 for your entire reproductive life. So vote. And further, now that they've got their nominee, the Republicans will be more content. They're going to sit on their hands, hopefully, in November. More of them will stay at home. And so it's like they've pulled their goalie, and all we have to do is show it for the power play and vote them all the fuck out. Hell yeah. And we have to fight fire with fire. And I saw on Twitter, an independent man. It sounds funny. He's registered independent. Strong independent man. I finally found an independent man. Now I said, he's registered an independent guy named Evan McMullen. He said quote, increasingly, I hear
Starting point is 00:41:16 Dems say they must fight fire with fire and abandoned norms and decency, like Republican leaders in order to win. But this eye for an eye mentality will only do more damage. United Americans on the high road offers a much greater field of fire and unquote to which I say bullshit. When Dums fight fire with fire, we mean to fight hard but fight fair. We need to grow a spine and fight. We fight fire with fire. When we say that, we mean we need to draw fair districts for voting.
Starting point is 00:41:44 We need to form packs for large voting blocks like veterans. We need to remove barriers to voting. We need to stack the courts. We need to expand the scotus by a couple of seats. So it's more representative of the electorate. And when Republicans fight fire with fire, they beat their wives, host KKK rallies collude with Russia to cheat past voter suppression laws, fund themselves with dark foreign money and nominate assholes to the scotis. No one on the left wants to abandon decency. We want to restore it. So take your quote, I'm an independent and more special than you because I could vote either
Starting point is 00:42:17 way. Unquote, needy self-righteous attitude and shove it up your ass. We're coming for Congress next month and you're not going to tell us how to do it. Woo. I love that. You know what it makes me think too when you save Democrats' fire with fire? It sounds like you're not... You're saying fight passion with passion. Like, I feel like even though you're right about the Republicans having a different kind of fire, they fight dirtier. I think like you said, don't let go of decency, just be passionate.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Like, if you care about these things, then prove it. Yeah, my point is, when Dems fight dirty, we don't rate people. We work within the rules to install a decent democracy. Or if we do harass them when they step down, Al Franken. I feel like it's just weird that we harassed him. Oh no, no, we didn't harass him, but he has his history. It's like at least we uphold our values. You know, that's something.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah, but we do need to fight. Yeah, I mean, I think the Democrats are really divided on this and just liberals in general. I was watching an episode of Bill Maher the other day that Michael Moore was on and he got into it with a female journalist I forget where the name was. And basically she was saying, no, this is absurd. Let's, you know, I imagine taking sort of the same view that that person was. And Michael Moore, obviously in a very, very more
Starting point is 00:43:30 asked fashion is like, no, fuck that. We need to get dirty. We need to do, you know, to win. Yeah, I mean, he didn't say dirty, but he did, he said, I just want to win it. And some people took that as like, oh, you want to play dirty. But I think he just means, let's just be smart. Like, let's not talking and do something.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Don't cheat. Just be smart. Don't cheat. Yeah, but if being he just means let's just be smart. Like, let's not talking and do something. Don't cheat. Just be smart. Don't cheat. Yeah, but if being super passionate and like flailing your arms up and being fucking crazy, whatever, apparently that's what people want to hear right now. Cause the stakes I think are really high and people are really scared. So someone that's going to, you know, very trepidaciously sort of be like, we're running. It's like, no, but run with all your money.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna, yeah, no. Yeah, then, so again, no dirty ads, no BS, we're not gonna take dark money donations from the NRA or really just groups who aren't supposed to donate. But, you know, put together some super packs. Take that big money, use it. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Keep speaking out, I'm showing up. I'm showing up. Yeah, protest. Protests are huge right now for the left. I mean, I guess the Nazis are kind of picking on that. They in Wagoncy, but I haven't seen them out like they were last year. Not recently, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:36 At least not in big spectacles. I think there was a big women's march on January 19th this year, we'll have to check them out in DC. Anyway, we'll be right back. Hey, Mueller junkies. Today's episode is brought to us by Skillshare, an online learning platform with over 20,000 classes in design, technology, and business, whatever you need.
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Starting point is 00:45:44 This is a special offer for Mueller junkies using Skillshare.com slash AG. Again, that is two whole months of unlimited access by going to Skillshare.com slash AG. You'll be glad you didn't. Alright, welcome back. Hot notes. All right welcome back hot notes All right time for hot notes today Jordan is gonna dish about her ex-boyfriend Nunez, but first Jalisa has yet another update on Eric Prince and the meeting in the Seychelles and Dimitri of Jalisa. I guess more emails came out. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:46:25 I'm so happy about this because like the butter email thing was like so big that like I love how there's a never ending emails on the right side. Explain the butter hurt emails because- So the Hillary, the butter hurt email, sorry, the- I was gonna say we're gonna get emails for butter hurt. Good point, good point. I was gonna say we're gonna get emails for butter hurt.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Good point, good point. Because when he was buttered about emails, that was so funny. So on Wednesday, we learned from the Daily Beast that just days after the 2016 election, a very well-connected Moscow executive started pitching to Trump's people a plan to renew the US Russia relationship. This person, as you mentioned, AG, Kurel Demetriv is the head of one of Russia's sovereign wealth funds, and it's a close ally of Putin's, you guys might remember him. I think that's a sanctioned fund to your own. Exactly. Oh, yeah. You guys might remember him
Starting point is 00:47:03 from our reporting last week on the infamous St. Shales meeting. And so basically, turns out on November 9th, Demetri reached out to at least three more people in close contact with the Trump transition team, including George Nader, the Lebanese American businessman who is now cooperating with Mueller. And once Trump got elected, Demetri said to Nader, quote, we want to start rebuilding the relationship in whatever is a comfortable pace for them. And once Trump got elected, Demetrius said to NATO, quote, we want to start rebuilding the relationship in whatever is a comfortable pace for them. We understand all the sensitivities and are not in a rush.
Starting point is 00:47:31 So you know, hashtag no collusion. And then he went on to say, quote, I am at their disposal to discuss things anytime as I think that we can be helpful in guiding this relationship understanding each side's well. And then he said, I love some. Yeah, he's in a smiley face. I think we can be helpful.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I think it's true. I think it's true. I think it's true. I think we can be helpful. I think it's true. It's a smiley face. It's a cute little touch. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Oh, no. The voice to men. It's beautiful. My bad. And finally, he closed with my boss since his warmest greetings, and I will see him again early next week, and guess what happened next week? Demetriven Poon were both at a financial summit in Peru.
Starting point is 00:48:10 So, you know, big coincidence. And then the Daily Beast claims that it's unclear from the communications whether or not Demetri was representing himself as the CEO of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, or if he was doing it on behalf of Poon. Oh, dude, come on. It's a big bite.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Everybody who's an oligarch, state-spons of Putin. Oh, dude, come on. It's a big bite. Yeah. Everybody who's an oligarch, state-sponsored oligarch, is representing the current. Absolutely, absolutely everybody. Yes. And basically, when you say I'll see my boss next week and you show up with Putin, I guess and that's the guy you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So, oh, yeah, go ahead. Now, I just can say I'll come to their heads. Just totally agree. Yeah. And also, according to these communications, three people who either know Demetriv or have worked with him said that he has been in close contact with Putin and at times refers to him as his boss.
Starting point is 00:48:51 So there's that, not to mention that by Russian law, Putin is in charge of appointing the CEO and supervisory board of the RDIF. So maybe hashtag some collusion. Well, now, if we have a, we started a Russian death pool, Demetririus is gonna be my number one. Totally. That'll be a separate league. He's gonna fall down six times tomorrow. Oh, we'll guess how many times they fall. I'm sorry. That's obvious. How many floors did he fall down? He's a crappy guy. So this one I don't feel too bad about. Do they have 13th floors in Russian hotels? And the part that I'm building too, to the same we make our own luck. Yeah, 13 is fine. That's beautiful. And Mother Russia floor kills you. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:49:30 So of course the Meetreeve denies that he's connected or doing this behalf of Putin. And a spokesperson for his fund said, quote, we believe that the ultimate goal of these reports is to attack and smear those persons who are making an effort to improve relations between Russia and the United States. It's a smear job. Oh, yeah, smear. Pap smear. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Not related. Whoa. Yeah, it just, that's what I think when I think smear. Not bagel. Pap. Anyways, Dmitri, how do you say smear or smear? I say smear. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:49:58 When I put a bagel or smear, right? Yeah, smear for bagel. But Pap smear sounds nice. Now that you mentioned it, I think it's just smear. Unless it's smear. It is smear, but named after a person, or as pap is his name, papi. Papi makes smear.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I think you're right about the pronunciation of that one, it just sounds more fun now. I say pap smear, because I think the smear is the verb of what you're doing, you're smeering. You know what? Hey guys, sorry. One of those derailments. This is a bad conversation for a male allies to have that fair.
Starting point is 00:50:25 That's fair. So back to Russia. Demetriv has particularly taken advantage of the fact that the US sanctions on Russia are just what they call sectoral sanctions, which means that they do not rule out any business collaborations between US and Russia. In fact, at the Davos World Economic Forum, just five days after the state shell
Starting point is 00:50:43 is meeting, Demetriv went on CNBC to reiterate several talking points from the state shell is meeting. He even praised the Trump administration for their professionalism. How do you spell Davos as a DAV OS? It is. So it's not like not Betsy DeVos, Eric Brindes. Exactly. It's a A. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Just checking. Is that be interesting if she had her own little summit? Oh, that would. Yeah, yeah. And furthermore, at this forum, Dimitri tried to distribute a letter to several Americans in attendance, like CEOs and whatnot. And he tried to pitch this new US-Russia business relationship to them. But many of them were reluctant. And one
Starting point is 00:51:14 of the sources said, quote, I don't think people in the US wanted to touch it because of the specter of the sanctions. But some of them touched it anyways. So this guy, Ari, Emmanuel. Sanctions on my toes and a wall and a touchmanuel. Sanctions on my toes and a wand. A touch it. Sanctions on my toes and a wand. A touch it. Oh, it's great. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:31 No, you're fine. You're fine. Ari Emanuel, Trump's longtime friend and the owner of UFC, he met with, yeah, the douche bag all over. The UFC. Yes, what's he called the fighting? The ultimate fighting champion. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:44 This is the guy. This is the main guy. The one John Favre wanted to went on friends.S. The what's it called the fighting the ultimate fighting champion? Absolutely. This is the guy. This is the main guy the one John Favre wanted to work on friends. Yeah, the whole thing the whole agency. This is I've been rewatching friends. Oh, so so not only is Trump connected to the WWE, but this guy is connected to the UFC. Absolutely. And this guy met with Demetriv and Putin at the International Economic Forum last June. What's his name? Sorry. His name is Ari Emanuel. Ari Emanuel. Yes. Oh, that's the bomb.
Starting point is 00:52:09 You talk about it. Is that all the manuals, brother? I don't know about that one. Is he an American? Good question. He is an American. Yeah. I think that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You know what? I could be wrong. We'll look it up. We'll fact check next week. But not to mention, you have seen announced this year that it would embark on a joint venture with Demetriv's Wealth Fund, the RDAF, as well as China and the UAE sovereign Well-Fun, in an effort to promote events in Russia. So like, they are knee deep in collusion.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Not even hiding it. They're everywhere. Oh yeah. And just to wrap it all up, there's a little hope, guys. So Demetri's efforts to normalize trade relations between the US and Russia may be in jeopardy because right now, Congress is deciding what steps to take to prevent Russia from interfering in the 2018 midterms.
Starting point is 00:52:49 In fact, several members have drafted sanctions bills that would impose even tougher measures on Russia, including sanctioning Russian somber debt, which would apparently be one of the toughest hits to the Russian economy since it annexed Crimea in 2014. So Congress just needs to get their shit together and vote yes on this because I just don't know what they're waiting for. The midterms are like basically here. I feel like if they have these drafted, I can only imagine the house is just doing everything they can
Starting point is 00:53:13 to prevent it from coming up in time. But seems like they're ready. Yes, Ari Emanuel is Ram Emanuel's brother. Oh. Interesting. He's the guy who was played by Jeremy Piven in Entourage. Oh, interesting. Yeah, he's the guy who was played by Jeremy Piven in Entourage. Oh, shit. He's the head of UFC.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I should contact him if I want to get my UFC or Gay porn side up. I have this idea. I'm going to tell you now. I have this idea of a website called UFC or Gay porn. I show you a close-up picture of body parts, naked body parts, tangled up. You can't tell what it is, but you have to guess if it's UFC or gay porn. And then when you guess, it'll pan back and show you the whole
Starting point is 00:53:48 scene. Right. And the best part is it's always gay porn. So that's beautiful. I think it's a good website. I'm gonna invest in this. That's really interesting. Yeah. Because Rahm Ammonial worked for Obama. And now he's mixed in with the Russians. Politician in Chicago. So I wonder. Well, I'm thinking about his brother. Oh, yeah. And that's really interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I wonder. But that's that. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Yeah. Next up. Oh, sorry. Russia just, they feel like a virus.
Starting point is 00:54:19 That's just, you keep learning in different places. They've infiltrated. Yeah. It's just like, how much of a network is this and how hard is they going to be to actually eradicate this. Oh yeah. It's big. Have you seen the Americans? The movie?
Starting point is 00:54:29 The show? Oh, the show. I was like, I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been seeing them as I've been I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been. I haven't seen them as I've been seeing them as I've been seeing them as I've been. in twined or kind of infiltrating, the Russians are into just in America.
Starting point is 00:54:46 But that's old, that's 80s, 90s, that's the one, that's the case that Peter Struck exposed. Okay, even though, yeah, not a hero. Have you been hearing, I haven't really been hearing anyone talking about switching in paper ballots, but I don't see why we wouldn't do that aside from the additional costs and administrative. I think it's worth it at this point. Right. Yeah, considering who we voted in last time has tripled the deficit, it might be worth
Starting point is 00:55:13 the money. I think so. But male ballots too. But yeah, to have a paper trail is the best thing here. California we do. We do paper ballots here. Nice, I didn't know. But do not try to text your vote.
Starting point is 00:55:25 If somebody tweets you saying, you can stay home and text your vote, don't fall, you have to actually go vote. And by the way, you have to register. A lot of states, deadline is today, or October 9th. Yeah. So do that, please.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Please, please. Facebook lets you register, but. No, not that. It's a little tricky, right? With their history. No, you can register online. Okay, I'll Facebook lets you register, but it's a little tricky, right? With their history. No, you can register online. Okay, I'll just give you the. That's how I registered this year.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah, in any episode that we post, we're gonna put a link to where you can register, vote, in the description. So please do that. Next up, Jordan, with your super sneaky new nez and his super sneaky move that everyone in California's 22nd District should know about. That's up by Fresno. So what do you got for us?
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, so 22nd district, the guy that's running against Nunes is a friend of the podcast, Andrew Janspot, for him, please. Yeah, listen to that episode. We had him on. If you're interested in his platform and stuff, we've had him on, so check that out. Yeah, he's awesome. He's the one that got that billboard that was, it was, it was Donald Trump and like Putin and a leash. Or no, sorry, Nunez, Nunez and a leash with, was it Putin or something? Perchuk. Right. So it was very Russia-centric. Yeah, and it was very BDSM-centric as well.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Yes. Damn, took it down. Yeah. That is, ooh, that's sexy. Yeah. And so that district is a huge district, obviously, because Nunez has been a champion of defending Trump as we know the Nunes men Menu the Nunes memo came out and
Starting point is 00:56:52 If I need to remind us all what that was just essentially an investigation or his own Investigation into the FBI in there Motivations between surveilling a farmer, a farmer investigated the federal Bureau of Investigation. And if you want to know what the farmer came up with, now that sounds mean to farmers. If you want to know what the pretend farmer came up with, they say you can't even call him a farmer, isn't, and you're going to tell us why. It's so amazing. Yeah, so, okay. So basically, Devon Nunes, this is really important to know. We've gone over this in past episodes when we tried to determine if his and should have a tilde over it. But it does not because it is Portuguese.
Starting point is 00:57:30 So he comes from his family comes from Portugal. He has 1000%. He is from an immigrant family. Okay. That is a super, super, super big part of his identity. Oh yeah. Super super super super. So essentially what this article covers is it's come out that Devonunas has tried to claim that he's a farmer like we're just mocking him for. Turns out that his he has no ties to farms in his district except for one that his uncle has. But really his main financial ties are actually just to a random winery in his district. That he's it.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Wow. The winery is not a farm. I'm sorry, I know you grow grapes, but that is like the whitest privilege farm that you can think of. Yes. The whitest privilege farm, I like that, that name. Yeah, and so I don't mean to belittle the workers
Starting point is 00:58:22 that are picking the grapes and harvesting the grapes. What I'm saying is that it's just not a farm. No. It's not agriculture to me. That's a winery, right? Am I being crazy? I do think if I'm being crazy. I'll pull you.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I'm opening this up there. No, but so it comes out. This comes out that his family moved their farm, their dairy farm, and they had in that district to a farm in Iowa actually, into the district that, wait for it, Steve King represents. So, yeah, so if everyone does not know who that guy is, he is probably one of the most staunchly anti-immigration Representatives this country has in Congress right now. He is brutally no no exceptions Everybody should be deported. That's illegal kind of guy. So this is where this guy got the
Starting point is 00:59:19 Got the fuel to go and travel to Iowa and sort of do some digging because Nunes has not ever come out and really talked about this fact. That is family far left the district that he's even trying to represent. Does represent. I say try and because he sucks ass. So this guy, this is also a really beautiful, like beautifully written article by Esquire and it'll be on our show notes.
Starting point is 00:59:42 So if you're not a patron, become one so you can see it. It's a great, really long article. So I'm just kind of sort of jump around here to the stuff that's relevant. So essentially, article starts out with just a little bit of a history on Nunez's somewhat moderate background. He didn't use to always be the super, super crazy right-wing person that he is right now. He used to actually have some more sort of, you know, sensical opinions on the radicalization of House Republicans. He actually said once in 2013, he called the House Republicans quote,
Starting point is 01:00:14 Lemmings with suicide vests. That's intense, right? Oh my god. He called them that during the government shutdowns, don't have a possible thumbs. They couldn't put suicide vests on. I'm gonna need to google that. That could be a possible thumbs they couldn't put suicide that I'm going to need to do that that could be wrong and they couldn't detonate anything either without those thumbs yeah so my only response so then then also in 2015 during another really bad house GOP in fighting period Nunez actually stood out for comments he made about how his colleagues and constituents were, quote, siloed in right-wing echo chambers and increasingly reliant on this or that conspiracy theory rather than something that is mostly true. Again, I bring this up just to paint the picture
Starting point is 01:00:56 that Nunez wasn't always outwardly the crazy, crazy ass psycho that he is right now in Congress. So this guy that writes the article gets wind that his family actually moved their farm from California to Iowa. All right, so he goes and starts doing some digging on why he may have done that and why they are so intensely fixated on covering up the fact that they did that.
Starting point is 01:01:18 And it's for a couple of reasons, basically this guy sort of discovers. So he goes to Iowa, he tries to track down his family, so it's his parents, Nunez, Jr. So his dad who is Anthony the third, I'm so sorry, his brothers and the third, his parents are Anthony, Jr. and Tony, Tony D.N. They're the ones that own the farm that they move to Sibli,owa. Sibli I think actually is where Molly Tibbets, where that case happened, I'm pretty sure. It's like a very rural, very rural, very agricultural, centric community in district. So they moved their farm there. This guy goes to cover the
Starting point is 01:01:58 story about why they're so helpin' on covering this up. Comes to discover that essentially this, the crux lies at the fact that this is a district that's represented by Steve King who Nunez wound up supporting. Who is super anti-immigration. That's like his probably most defining characteristic like I said, but when this guy goes to do this article and does some digging, he gets all of these essentially just testimony sort of from farmers who are saying if we didn't have immigrants, we literally could not run our farms. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:29 We would go bankrupt. Right now we pay legal immigrants. So that's their words. My words would be undocumented. Right. Um, $15.50 an hour, they said if they had to switch over to people that were actually documented, they'd have to up it to maybe like $18 to $20 an hour, and it would bankrupt all of them.
Starting point is 01:02:47 So the problem lies in that this is a district that voted 79% for Trump. It's insane Trump County. They're huge. It's huge. Super Trump County, super, super anti-immigration. And then you have all of these farmers that for the most part have
Starting point is 01:03:06 really conservative views, but they sort of have to conceal and dampen down their opinions on ice and immigration because they're afraid of ice coming and raiding their farms. So much to the point we learn. So they're kind of voting for the Republicans so that they don't have the spyglass on them and have ice coming up and and taking their workers away. I think it's more so that I don't have the spyglass on them and have ice coming up and taking their workers away? I think it's more so that I don't know if, you know, a chicken or the egg kind of thing. I don't, that's definitely a benefit if they're not making any sort of noise.
Starting point is 01:03:35 No one's gonna come and check out their farms. I think they legitimately hold conservative ideals, but the fact of the economy is that they can't afford to not employ undocumented people. So that's gotta be a weird position to be in, where you want to be conservative, but you have to employ undocumented workers in order to make a profit. Yes, exactly. And so this guy goes, he's talked to all these farmers. It turns out they're so entrenched in essentially the charade of them being, you know, patriots and super pro Trump, but so terrified of being
Starting point is 01:04:08 rated, of their farms being rated, that they're actually starting to form a sort of NATO-like organization, where if ice comes and raids one of their farms, it'll essentially be seen as an attack on all of their farms, because the entire economy they said would fall in their district. We know what you can do instead of forming a NATO type situation.
Starting point is 01:04:26 You could actually just vote Democrat. Yeah. And stop all that from happening. And you wouldn't lose your preexisting conditions. You'd probably get free health care. And things might go your way. It's just so odd that they have to. Anyway, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And what's interesting, the latest poll came out this week. How many points did Trump win by? 79% was the percentage that. So he got 79%. And the latest poll is 11, I think it said. Holy shit. So it doesn't sound right. A lot.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It was something else. Higher. But a poll this week out from the Fresno B puts Nunez up 53 to 45 in the 22nd. 56% of pulled voters approve of Trump while 44 do not. So it seems like it shifted quite a bit. So we needed to get the news out about this. Yeah, I think on top of the fact that he's lying,
Starting point is 01:05:14 sorry, did I cut you off? No, okay. Yeah, on top of the fact that he's essentially trying to cover up the fact that not only did his family and his farmer ties move to Iowa, there he's also profiting off of somebody that is, he's campaigning for someone that's extremely anti-immigration in a place where his family and that whole constituency
Starting point is 01:05:35 is basically benefiting off of the policies that the people he's supporting and the policies, he is now supporting that he didn't use to, but because he's trying to be in bed with Trump, he's touting himself as this super anti-immigration person when he didn't use to be. And it's like, so now he has ties in two districts that absolutely need undocumented people
Starting point is 01:05:55 for the economy to function. But he's sort of stuck in trying to dampen any sort of spotlight, like he said, being shown on those districts, because if they went and rated it, everyone would be fucked. His family would be fucked, they went and rated it, everyone would be fucked. His family would be fucked. The constituents would be fucked.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Everybody would be fucked. So here's this guy, bailing on you, 22nd District, to go to Iowa, probably because it's safer from ice, than California is, Fresno, it's near, you know, not near, but could San Francisco, Sanctuary City. We have open borders here in California. It's all chaos. But what a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:06:27 And trying to keep secret because he doesn't want the other farmers to know that he's completely abandoning them. And man, sorry about your access. How do you even go out with that guy for that long? Let me just sing in him Jordan. It was a good ape. It looks like my dad, what do you want from me? It's a good ape, months you're with that guy.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah, come forward. And it's not too, because like I said, the story hence my rantee reporting on this, it's like really, really, really long and it's really extensive and cool. But one of the things that happens in it is he starts, this reporter, he's going and talking to these people, he actually starts getting followed. Every day he starts getting followed.
Starting point is 01:07:00 He does YSUV is following him constantly. And basically people start trying to intimidate him to not expose this story. Wow. Because of anything happened and they were confronted with that hypocrisy, they like Steve King would crumble like because they're getting kickbacks, right?
Starting point is 01:07:17 From supporting. Oh yeah. And like the only, they looked into the campaign donations. They probably have some sort of weird tariff exemption where they don't have to like, there's gonna be these individual veto or line item things where they don't have to pay these tariffs or they get the markets where the other countries don't have to pay the tariffs for their crops. It's gross. Yeah, it's crazy. And the only politician that Nunez's dad actually
Starting point is 01:07:38 ever gave money to was Steve King, he gave him $250. Oh, wow. He must be doing well. Thank you, Joy. I didn't fuck. Yeah, wow, that's a great story. Yeah, he's just a fake piece of crap. You guys need to vote, Andrew Janson. How's he really? Impureating, but great.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Good morning. Jans the man's. Yeah, who happens to be Super Pro-Molar, which is how it all comes full circle, everybody. Yeah. You and his sucks. We're back. And Jans is the best. Absolutely. All right, today're back in the end. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Absolutely. All right, today, today, I'm going to talk about some really interesting shit that came out this week in Politico. They dropped a story called, quote, GOP operative, who sued Trump, says the FBI referred hacking of her email to Mueller, unquote. And sadly, like most good stories that come out of the Mueller investigation, you can't fit this into one headline, or bumper sticker or a sound bite. Though it would be funny to try to make Mueller bumper stickers because they're
Starting point is 01:08:33 so, so involved and so like have so many different tendrils. Like instead of saying, it's Texas, not Texas, a Mueller bumper sticker would say, it's Texas, not be like Bhutina who infiltrated the NRA for Russian befriended Paul Erickson Who influenced the RNC platform by softening the language on Ukraine and making beauty in the Beast karaoke videos Be a pretty big bumper sticker there or Calvin peeing on make America great again by allowing Flynn and cops and to meet at the Mayflower with Russian officials to live sanctions So we can build reactors and Saudi Arabia and recolonize the Middle East. What? I can fit on the whole back of it though, I bet. But yeah, there's no way to sum up this week's story in Politico into a headline or a sound bite.
Starting point is 01:09:11 So that's why I put it in the hot notes and I'll lay it all out for you. Okay. So way back in the spring of 2015, spring of 2015, the night before Trump descended the golden escalator, Jim Dornan, who's a Trump guy, approached a woman named Sherry Jacobus about being the communications director of the Trump campaign. She had two contentious interviews for the position and decided not to take the job. She hates Trump.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Several months later, she did an interview with the Washington Post saying that during those meetings, Corey Lewandowski, what a gem he is, that's Trump's campaign manager at the time, had told her about plans for a pro Trump pack super pack called the Make America Great Again pack and he tried to tell her and the post that it had no ties to Donald Trump So days after the story broke that super pack was shut down Because it clearly had ties to Trump worry you might want to name it something else Yeah, as much as I'd like to believe that was a hackiest fuck name. Why don't we call it that this has nothing to do with Donald Trump's super PAC?
Starting point is 01:10:10 Definitely. Around the same time, that Washington Post story came out, right? Jacobus was contacted online by a dude pretending to be a rich English barrister, saying that he had deep pockets and he wanted to donate a bunch of money to her never-trump Republican operatives. So she's a Republican, but she's a never-trumper. There were a lot of them, like the Washington-Freebeacon, the people that fusion GPS or not fusion GPS, but yeah, they hired fusion GPS.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Exactly, yeah. To get op-o research on Trump and it eventually turned into the DCA when the Democrats took over. Yeah. So these never-trump Republicans, and here's this guy catfishing them. and it eventually turned into the down the street when the democrats took over yeah so these never trump republicans and here's this guy catfishing them okay trying to obtain personal and political information on them likely for the trump campaign right so they can get intel
Starting point is 01:10:55 uh... an op-a research on them and jacobus referred this guy to rick wilson and liz mayor uh... they were running an anti-trump Republican pack at the time, but Wilson and Mayor suspected fraud because this guy was super fishy, this enriched English barrister, and they stopped talking to him. Then in the spring of 2016, six months later, Jacobus traced a website domain in this whole catfishing scheme to a guy named Stephen Wessel, and he is a notorious New York con man. At the time, he was out on bail waiting to serve time for an unrelated fraud case. And when this scheme came to light when she reported this catfishing scheme, this guy
Starting point is 01:11:31 who was catfishing all these never trumpers, in the district of New York, a judge sent him to jail for violating his bail. Like, remember when Maniford violated his bail by witness tampering? They sent this guy to jail saying, you, you're catfishing never trumpers to get political intel on them, sent him to jail. So four months after this whistle guy was sent to jail, in August of 2016, Jacobus recorded that her personal email account was hacked and its contents were deleted.
Starting point is 01:11:58 And it couldn't have been whistle because he was in jail, right? And oddly around this time, Jacobus was tangled up in a legal battle with Trump because during the 2016 primaries, she had appeared on Fox News criticizing Trump and Trump and Lewandowski replied on Twitter calling her a dummy and portrayed her as a disgruntled job seeker, so she sued them for defamation.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Nice. So while she was publicly feuding with Trump and Lewandowski, she was receiving physical and sexual threats on social media. But in, because that's how Trump people do. But in January 2017, her case was dismissed. And after the election, she kept in touch with the FBI, as she kept sending them other odd incidents that had occurred around this cat fishing scheme. And in February 2017, she was interviewed multiple times by the FBI in New York.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And in November 2017, what's that nine months later, this is about a year ago, she turned over all of her other electronic communications related to the catfishing scheme. But on September 10th of this year, just a few weeks ago, the FBI wrote to her, Jacobus, and told her they were referring her case to Bob Mueller's team, and sending any other information, if she has any other information, she needs to send it to the special counsel's office. Now, if this hack were connected to Wessel or New York or Con Men guys like Cohen, it probably would have been referred to the Southern District of New York. Exactly. But the FBI told Jacobus they were referring it to Mueller and that can only meet one thing.
Starting point is 01:13:22 It's got something to do with Russia. Yeah. So put some beans on that. That's awesome. We'll be right back. Hey, Mueller junkies. Do us a favor and hop over to iTunes and subscribe and give us a rating. Then come follow us on Twitter at Mollishirot. In the coming months, we're working to bring you
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Starting point is 01:14:15 Alrighty, you guys ready for the fantasy indictment league? Yes! Okay, so with the news that Manafort, you know, he's meeting with special counsel, his report is not due until November 16th, and given the Jacobus referral to Mueller, I'm going to hold off on collusion indictments and keep Stone and Arando Rushing for hacking Jacobus. I think that might be interesting. And I'll stick with the financial trouble that people can get in without collusion like Donald Trump, Jr., Ivanka, and Kushner.
Starting point is 01:14:57 So that's gonna be my five there. So I've got, let's see, I've got Arando Rushing, I've got Stone, Jr., Ivanka, and Kushner. What about you guys? I've got stone, junior, Ivanka and kosher. What about you guys? I've got all the kids, except for Eric and Tiffany. For some reason I never considered including them. So I got Ivanka, junior, Jared, he's one of the kids. And last week I took off a rando
Starting point is 01:15:17 and I replaced them with someone. Do you guys remember, was it Cohen? It was Cooke's. There we go, I know it was a K-ER, see. So in that case, the fifth spot that I do want to mix up this week. Remember was it Cohen? Scoobies. Cooks. There we go. I know it was a K-Ears, see. And that gives the fifth spot that I do want to mix up this week. And who was that lady that was referred to? What's her name?
Starting point is 01:15:32 Or the person that referred to Mueller just now that you were going over? The person that's involved with like instead of Jacobus? Yeah, Jacobus. So that's a guy. Jacobus is a lady. Oh, wait, okay, okay. So there's a chance that a plea deal could come out of this. Well, Jacobus is a is a victim. Oh, there's nothing about that. That's why I put a rando Russian on because the person who hacked her is going to be referred to Mueller investigation. It's got to be a Russian.
Starting point is 01:15:56 That's why I put a rando Russian. Okay, okay. I like that strategy. I'm getting a rando rando Russian. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, before I do my question, do I get a point for the Randall Russian for the indictments that came out this week or no because they don't specifically relate necessarily they don't relate. If there is a tie, you will get a back. That's called a retro authorized and I was just hoping I could profit off of the vague nature. Every time a Russian gets indicted, yes, profit the non-money we're winning for this game. Can get its wings. Were there some Russians indicted like last week? That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Yeah, it just wasn't like specific about anything we talk about, really. They haven't been tied directly. All right, fair enough. Well, in that case, I won't put on any other people that are accused of any other general crimes, I guess. I'll keep it. I'll keep it related. Okay, Yeah. So definitely all the children, Eric is going to be busy. It's Halloween. So, you know, he'll be like,
Starting point is 01:16:50 posing as Dracula. There you go. There you go. He's doing a lot of face, a plaster face cast for nose for tattoo people who want masks. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Okay. So Ivanka, Ivanka Kushner, um, DTJ, I had Trump on there as wishful thinking, I since realized I don't want to waste a spot that many weeks I've ever been. So let's put a rando Russian on there for the, I'm going to do a rando Russian and a stone. Good, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:13 All right, good. Sounds good. You guys ready for sabotage? Oh, yes. All right, you guys, let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Alright you guys in a Twitter thread from Eric Garland he outlined Senator Susan Collins husband ties to Russia her husband is a guy named Thomas Daffron or DeFron that's probably Daffron reminds us of Safron and he works for a lobbying firm guys he used to be the chief of staff for Fred Thompson. He was in, I think, law and order for a while.
Starting point is 01:17:50 He's a Republican presidential candidate. He died a couple years ago. But he also took money from Russian money launders, from Qatar in the 90s, Qatar. And he was tangled up in Watergate, Watergate, and the savings alone scandal. He's rolled. He was. He's not here anymore He also lobbied for nuclear energy group that is pushing PR that sounds a lot like the Marshall plan between Flynn and Copson
Starting point is 01:18:12 Do you guys remember we've talked about the Marshall plan which is that whole Mayflower meeting where Flynn was texting Copson from the day So the inaugural saying we can tear up sanctions we can go forward with our thing and they were gonna build all these reactors Exactly and Saudi Arabia using Russian lifting sanctions on Russia so that they could help and then re-colonizing, quote unquote, the Middle East by putting bases near the reactors to guard them. And if the UFC guys involved in that, too, then, creepy. In 2003, he lobbied for a firm representing, this is, we're back on, sorry, Collins husband. He lobbied for a firm in 2003 representing an offshore bank haven in the Caymans, weird. Finally in 2009,
Starting point is 01:18:53 he lobbied Pro Bono for Canaya, Alaska, historic Russian settlement, thought to be riddled with Russian mafia, it's a port city. And it appears he was lobbying for the Russian homeland in Alaska with tax exempt, using tax exempt churches. So maybe we want to think about Daphron who is not registered under Farah. He's a lobbyist and how he may be dabbling in illegal Russian lobbying. Seeing as I don't think these kinds of indictments would drop until November, mid-November, I'll keep my picks the same. But Susan Collins, husband, is needy in this. I'm thinking early November, he's going to go on my list too, but I'm just going to wait. I want to see who gets it in between, but that's a good one.
Starting point is 01:19:31 That's solid. Yeah, our picks after the election should be interesting. Oh, yeah. Very nice. You've been changed, you're just stay. I'm going to stay. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:40 All right. Finally, guys, we've been talking a lot recently about Lindsey Graham crackers and his weird behavior, along with his possible ties to oligarchs And joining us today to talk about what he's found out about Lindsey Graham's ties to Russian oil money and potential Even campaign finance violations Welcome the host of the Dorkin report podcast and co-founder of the dem coalition Scott Dorkin Scott welcome back to mullichy wrote What's going on, a G? Oh, you know, living the dream. We're both sitting here on a Friday waiting any minute now for Susan Collins to come out and let us know what she thinks
Starting point is 01:20:13 about all this. But we'll get to that in a second. I'm really fascinated by the reporting that you guys dropped this week on Lindsey Graham and his ties to some oligarchs. What did you tell us what you found out? well we we basically just sum it up as we found over eight hundred thousand dollars in putin linked contributions to Lindsey Graham over the past few years so it's as of recently on top of that one of the donors is a Ukrainian businessman who used to work for cyberbank or cyberbank, or however they pronounce it, a Putin-controlled bank that helps sponsor misuniverse. And so he's a former executive for that company, and that may
Starting point is 01:21:00 lead to an illegal campaign contribution. We also saw a fraudulent sort of investigation that was done into an illegal scheme that involved around $20 million in grant money that was handed out to one of his biggest donors who was then arrested and convicted of illegal campaign contributions, two grams campaign, and also for the fraud on the grant side of things. And Graham was never held accountable, and there was never really a true investigation into that. So we noticed that was swept out of the rug
Starting point is 01:21:39 and brought that up as well. Why this is important is everybody that's linked to Trump that really has been spouting off or been questionable in regards to how they're acting is linked to this one donor who made his billions off of Russian oil. And his name is Lim Blvattnik. He is the richest man in the UK. He was born in Russia. He likes to paint himself as if he was born in the Ukraine, you know, and I, you know, why, obviously. So he's very tricky in regards to how he presents himself, but in February of 2017, I uncovered that he had given to a lot of money to Paul Ryan Mitch McConnell, which I can millions to Rubio, to Scott Walker, and then to some others.
Starting point is 01:22:35 But that was the, that was the majority of them. And they really have been spending a lot of time with them. And so in our report, we uncovered that after the $800,000 that was given by this Russian oligarch it was Lindsey Graham then was spending time with him and so we found video and photos that uncovered that and that made it really uncomfortable because that was right after the elections and if someone had some of Putin's money and they wanted to control it uh... this would be one of those guys uh... because well now this is this is blood uh... blavot nick right and he's
Starting point is 01:23:12 he's a u.s. citizen but Russian born says he's from the Ukraine he's kind of like in that group with kukes and in trader vexelberg and and all those guys and i guess vexelberg's actually not a citizen uh... i can't remember if he is or not but, but this is like what they've been referred to as a soft power group of Russian emigres who are, you know, influenceable by the Kremlin. And so, do you put him in that group? And also, I was wondering when these happened, because like I've noticed that Lindsey Graham
Starting point is 01:23:41 was pretty anti-Trump, and now he's not. And I was wondering if these kind of things happened in between there. Well, that happened in 2015, but he did not rekindle his relationship. So the donations happened in May of 2015, where he was given $500,000 and another $300,000 in October of 2015.
Starting point is 01:24:02 And then the pictures and video reveal an event from December of 2016. So it's just a very long path there and it leads back to the fact that he was spending time with them after the election and he was at the event with Alan Dershowitz. So it's the three of these guys. This guy has done business with Vexelberg for years and he's part of that crew that potentially are the folks that helped to interfere and attack the American elections. Yeah, and they might have a lot of info on that since Pat and Sam Patton was taken in. But all of this is being interviewed by Mueller, by the way.
Starting point is 01:24:45 So it is, it's reached a new height. You know, we uncovered in February 2017 before Mueller came on board, you know, to help save the United States. But he really, he dug into this and he's already interviewed people that are involved with this. And so I think that it is, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:04 even though it's contributions and the guys one of the richest students in the world uh... it is something to question grams motives very clearly now and we know from the sam patten uh... charges that you can't just use uh... u.s. citizens straw man to make these donations and have it be legal right right and that's what we've found a lot of a lot of fronts here. And you know, this is only the part one of the report on Lindsey Graham. And we unfortunately have 20 more reports to get out before
Starting point is 01:25:35 the elections coming up. Our next one being on Mike Pence. Oh good, you have to share that with us when it comes out. Now I'm wondering since all this, you know, Russian money started flowing in through Graham crackers back in 2015, if at all of the points that he's come forward early on when Mueller was appointed and he was, you know, with his rhetoric that there'd be held a pay if Trump did anything to interfere with the investigation. But then he flipped around a little bit and was super sick of that to Trump. But then again, recently, he's been on the talk show circuit saying Mueller will be fair
Starting point is 01:26:09 et cetera. I'm just wondering now, if everything he's kind of said in the last three years that was to defend Mueller or against Trump was just a cover. It just sounds like a cover at that point. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think most of the people that uh... are republicans nowadays the the uh... it's all just a cover i mean it's just the the same thing that they're doing
Starting point is 01:26:31 with cabin on where they use the fby report as cover where they you know it's doctored by them uh... they are the ones who choose the parameters of the report and then they they're like this is what it's found because this is what we wanted to find. You know, I think we're gonna see a lot of propaganda start to pipe up here between the next few weeks,
Starting point is 01:26:54 especially no matter whatever happens with Kavanaugh. If he goes through, I think it's gonna drown out a lot of that propaganda. If he's voted down, it's gonna be harder because they're gonna amput up to a level we have never seen before. Yeah, I really think politically it's better for the left if he actually gets confirmed. And I know that sounds horrible and I hate it and everything sucks about it, but he is impeachable. He could be disbarred. He could be forced to resign when the DEMs get the gavels back
Starting point is 01:27:23 in January one, we can investigate. There could be indictments. I mean, he could be forced to resign. When the DEMs get the gavils back in January 1, we can investigate. There could be indictments. I mean, there could be any number of issues, whereas if he's voted down and they put forward someone else from that Federalist list, or the Heritage Foundation list, whatever it is, Leopold Leo, I guess his name is, is that it? If they put one of these lady judges up and, you know, she's just as conservative, she's just as much an anti-choice against row, bad for unions, bad for labor, bad for the LGBTQ plus community. And there's nothing we can do about her, she'll be there forever. But at least with this POS, we might have a chance of of of fighting it or removing
Starting point is 01:28:06 or or anything like that and uh... and like you said if he's if he's voted down uh... that could really motivate republicans uh... to come out of the polls in november and we can uh... we can make sure that uh... you know no matter what happens i think the democratic turnout is going to be huge. But if he does get through, I mean, you can rest assured and I can give you my word that
Starting point is 01:28:36 the investigation is not over. This is not over by any means, no matter where he goes, no matter what happens. And we are going to finish this, and we're going to also dig into, and Senator Whitehouse has made this pledge as well. We're also going to dig into what the Republicans were doing during this time, because we do believe that they were as a concerted effort
Starting point is 01:28:57 to cover up everything, obviously, for good reason. And we think that there's things that are in the files that prove that he has a approval of torture that he helped uh... craft the entire engagement of torture as well uh... and his work and fraud that he committed in the bush white house and in afterwards and you know obviously his his years of of misconduct uh... sexual and otherwise
Starting point is 01:29:23 uh... and overall his his candor and in the way he acted. I mean, here's a question for you. Like, what would he not have to recuse himself from? Like, I can't think of a case where he'd actually be able to serve on it. Like, I just don't, I don't see. He kind of canceled that out by becoming a Hannity's best friend and, you know, talking like he's running a campaign. Yeah, now that he's now that he's come out forward, come forward saying that you know women clearly invented time machines to go back in time to you know have rape allegations so that you know we could come forward and you know it could be this whole thing where they just went back in time to do this and then
Starting point is 01:30:06 and trapped me, which is revenge for the Clintons. And that kind of political statement is and borders on conspiracy theory and it's certainly not fitting of a judge. I need to add term limits to the seats and then because it was lifetime appointments when the lives were shorter. You know what I mean? That made more sense. Now lives are too long and it's just not tenable to do that. So I think we need to think about having term limits on Supreme Court justice and then
Starting point is 01:30:40 also to expand the bench and have more diverse bench that reflects America by adding seats to it. So I mean, there's a lot of different things that people can try and do that I think have been long overlooked that we need to look into no matter what happens here. I do think that my guess, my guess is that match is going to vote whatever way collins goes and my uh... my inkling is going to say that collins going to vote yes and you know whether or not whether or not she does that or not you know it's the bottom line is matchin
Starting point is 01:31:18 won't be the deciding vote uh... he doesn't want to be he's you won't be he's like it'll be whatever I he's not going to be the guy who votes yes and get some through. Yeah, no, he's he's not going to yeah exactly it's going to be up to Collins. Uh, she'll be the deciding vote whether she wants to be or not. Yes, I'm not sure where she is. Uh, well, I mean, she's on the Senate floor, but I'm not sure what the status is of any of it at this. Let's listen to explain my vote on the nomination of a justice to the United States Supreme
Starting point is 01:31:54 Court. She's just going to go on and on defending him. This is just gonna end up a yes vote for her. Does it look like Cavanaugh? There's no way that she can turn and say, but. It's a little too late for that after all that. Yeah, I mean, she sounds like she's speaking for him in his own confirmation hearing right now. Yeah, I look forward to her losing in 2020. Oh, yeah, she's gonna lose bad. They're gonna hand over all that money to her opponent. All right, we'll go get your documents on
Starting point is 01:32:28 Kavanaugh. Let me know what they say. I will just keep on trudging through the mud. We will make it in the end, but it is going to be a long road and I'm here for all of it as you are I know. Thank you, A.G. for your diligence and all your work, man. I really appreciate you and everybody over there. Yeah, we appreciate you too. Have a good one. Cheers. All right, you guys, that's our show. Remember to register to vote.
Starting point is 01:32:54 The final day in a lot of states is October 9th. Also, if you're a mom, reach out to your local daycares and see if they'd be willing to volunteer to watch children while moms and dads go vote. Lift will be giving you a free ride to your polling place, tweet at Uber to make them do it too, and register now before it's too late. It's important, it's more important than ever that we take back Congress, I think, just even if it's just a good Kavanaugh out of there.
Starting point is 01:33:18 That's something, yeah. Yeah, anything else you guys want to add? Uh, hey, stay safe kids. Hey. No, really. Stay. A, no really. No, really. It's school shootings out there. I feel like that's a big part of why I feel like a lot of my peers should vote.
Starting point is 01:33:32 It's like a lot of them are younger and they're just now getting the right to vote. So I just want to find a way to like reach the younger to make it. Yeah, there was a poll that says only 26% of eligible voters 18 to 29 plan on voting. 26% is the lowest, it's the lowest age group. More 30 days away from the midterm. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, it's really like a really hard dichotomy between things being really fucked up, but also dissolutionment being at the highest. I think it's been in decades and decades.
Starting point is 01:33:59 So even though things are so fucked up, you're feeling of efficacy, voter efficacy is lower than it's been. Yeah. Don't give them what they want. I'm old and white and privileged. things are so fucked up, you're feeling of efficacy, voter efficacy is lower than it's been. Yeah, don't give them what they want. I'm old and white and privileged, and I don't have faith that the young people will come out and vote because they never have. So prove me wrong, shove it in my face. And those of you who are my age, literally listening, get your kids registered, get your
Starting point is 01:34:23 kids involved, get them to vote. Tell them if they want to get their drivers license. They're going to have to register to vote because that's a beautiful 18 now in a lot of states. Yeah. You want to drive? You're going to have to vote. Something, maybe hook it to their PlayStation.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Yeah, and flip, flip, flip, flip. You want your PlayStation, you got to vote. You want to have screen time, got to vote. That's weird to do to 18 year olds. I'm sorry. I have two, three year olds still living with their parents. I work. I have cats, you know Yeah, if one of my cats turns 18 that's just a dead lizard you better vote Dude your cat's brutal it keeps killing lizards. Yeah, dude. Did I tell you about the squirrel? No Bruce Willis killed a squirrel. Oh
Starting point is 01:35:02 Oh, dude, Bruce Willis killed a squirrel. Oh, how do they even help us? Squirrel. That's intense. And now there's a squirrel who will perch up on the tree out back, and when he sees Bruce Willis in the doorway, like looking like Jack Nicholson from the shining, he makes this little squirrel noise. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:35:19 That is funny. That is crazy. That is crazy. That is crazy. It takes me a minute to get the impressions for Squirrels, right? It is freaking their mad. It is like crows. You know how crows can hold a grudge?
Starting point is 01:35:35 These squirrels are pissed. Yeah. I mean, that is fair. They are probably all scorpios. I did run out. I did pick up the scorpios. I did pick up the cat, put him in his room. And then I grabbed the squirrel cat put him in his room and then I grabbed the squirrel put him in a box Took him to the vet because I didn't know what else to do and then the mama squirrel was up there
Starting point is 01:35:52 But he was in there like oh I don't know what happened to the squirrel cuz I mean they don't call you out to it off on the doorstep kind of thing I took it to the fire station cuz I couldn't raise it myself. Oh, no Sorry, no, I took it to the fire station because I couldn't raise it myself. Oh, no. Sorry. No, I took him to the You did the right thing. That's so sweet. Like I don't know what else to do with this He couldn't walk just wanted to get a net. You still alive though. Oh good. Yeah, but I don't know what happened to them Maybe they'll give them one of those like Lego chariots They get to put their bottom half in
Starting point is 01:36:23 Or scrolls cover by Obama's hair doggy scooters, but Lego chariots. They get to put their bottom half in. Or scrolls covered by albama care. Doggy scooters, but Lego chariots is great. That's really good. Oh man. It's adorable. Yeah. Anyway, I was, oh sorry. No, just just really quick on the on the whole voting thing, you know, on the whole base of our democracy. I was going to say anyway, vote. I've been aging. That was going to be my end day. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, no, I was, okay, the way that, okay, so, I studied political theory as a bachelor's, right? So I was like drunk half the time, but I must say, and I'm just kidding, I worked very hard in school.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Well, then you deserve everything you got. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I like ear. But like, one of the biggest takeaways I think I got from that degree was essentially that things happen in cycles, which is not a novel concept. But the cycle will get violent and scary if you don't exercise the things that
Starting point is 01:37:11 are put in place to keep it maintained and keep it having any sort of normalcy and functionality. So you can either vote now or you can wait for shit to just keep getting worse and worse and worse until some bigger, scarier, much more chaotic force starts to swing shit back because it always swings back. And you might not be a Bernie supporter at all, and that's totally fine if you think he was a Russia plant, but he did say something that was, is worth remembering. It's not, he's not going to fix anything. No politician is going to fix anything.
Starting point is 01:37:42 It's up to us. It's up to the American people. You have to exercise your constitutional right to vote. You're is gonna fix anything. It's up to us. It's up to the American people. You have to exercise your Constitutional right to vote. You're inherent right to vote. And if you do not, I will be very angry with you. Yeah. Really mad. Yeah, so Don't please young people prove me wrong at 18 to 29. Sorry. I know that some people are 29 and they're like, I'm so old. I can't go out any more like I used to I have to get home by 2 a.m. Otherwise, I won't be able to get up for work the next day. I'm kidding
Starting point is 01:38:10 I'm not making fun of 29 year olds. That's me. Yeah, it didn't get better. Let me just say that Please, please prove me wrong. Prove us all wrong. Yeah, shove it in our face. Mm-hmm. I've been AG. I've been Jolissa Johnson. I'm in Jordan Coburn. And this is Mollarshi Road. Mollarshi Road is produced and engineered by AG with editing and logo designed by Jolissa Johnson. Mark K. Consulting by Amanda Rita-Ret Unicorn Creative. Our digital media director and subscriber managers are Jordan Coburn and Sarah Hershberger Valencia.
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