Jack - Mueller, If You're Listening (feat. Scott Stedman)

Episode Date: April 15, 2019

S3E15 - Joining us this week is author and investigative reporter Scott Stedman! Plus, Jordan updates us on Devin Nunes, Jaleesa has a story on Jeff Bezos, and AG breaks down the rest of the Mueller news from the week. Enjoy! 

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I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign. And I didn't have, and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with food and for I have nothing to do with food and I've never spoken to them. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So, it is political. You're a Communist!

No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Hello and welcome to Muller She Wrote. I'm your host A.G. and with me as always is Julie Sejanson. Hello. And Jordan Coburn. Hello. This week has been fairly frightening, frankly, but we'll break it all down for you into

reasonable-ish pieces. But the structure this week is going to be a little different because this episode is called Mueller if you're listening. So my hot note this week is going to be a collection of questions we hope Mueller will answer to the public. If you happen to know Bob Mueller or anyone who works for him or works in any of the committees or any staffers that could end up questioning Mueller when he testifies on the Hill, please alert them to my hot note in this episode. In addition to that today, Jalisa, you're going to be covering new information on the Jeff Bezos

extortion case with Dirty Bird Reynolds. Jordan, you have some insights this week on Devon Moones. He's been busy. I'm getting an idiot. He's got to do go cow-tipping. The interview this week is with Scott Stedman. And yes, yes, I asked him about his publisher, but more importantly, he has an incredible scoop on Cindy Yang and his book Real News is coming out this week on Tuesday.

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I'd like to say by a thread, but we actually have a pretty good lead. Yeah, but I don't want to jinx it. Yeah, and no one jinx it. We are so we have slipped signal like eight points. We we're like Hillary in 26. Oh, no, well now we jinx it. We're right. We slip. That's what's happening. The Russians are coming into voting. So actually, no. Actually, they're probably not, because I think it's Washington Post that's gaining on us. And I don't think the Russians would vote for them. Good point. I'd also like to personally thank Halo Top and Rose for getting me through this week. I was in the hospital, but I'm back at it.

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And now, in the interest of accountability, it is time for my new favorite segment, Corrections. It's time to say I'm sorry. Oh, I made a mistake. Oh. All right, guys, let's kick this off with a little piece of info about our fantasy and indictment league music. We always joke about that the, you know, Wednesday NFL are going to send us a cease and to cease letter because we use that music as in the fantasy indictment league, but as

it turns out, it's not the NFL's music. It belongs to Fox. Oh. Yeah, that's even wierder. Which makes it, yeah, it's not the NFL's music. It belongs to Fox. Oh. Yeah, that's even wierter. Which makes it, yeah, it's harder to understand for me why we haven't received a strongly word to notice. I doubt anybody who Fox News is on,

Mollershey wrote duty. Right, yeah. So the NFL bought it from Fox. Nope, Fox owns it, it's Fox. But the NFL plays, oh, so they only play that just on Fox. Yep. It's the Fox's NFL team. Totally.

Interesting. But since we probably put that movie clip over it, it's probably considered parody and we're probably protected. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, parody, fair use. Yep. Totally. One of those things.

Nice. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. If I got a, I don't know. If it were the NFL, I'd be like, a fold. You're right, dude. I'll stop using it. But if it got a, I don't know. If it were the NFL, I'd be like, a fold, you're right, dude, I'll stop using it. But if it were Fox, I'd kind of be like, right. If it does fall under Seth's higher and not parody,

we're less protected, but they still have to find us. So hey, don't tell him. And then it was pointed out to me this week that they might be giants did not write the theme to the Daily Show with John Stewart. It was the Husker do guy that did that but they might be giants covered it for the daily show. Yeah they made their version of it right. Yeah. But they might be giants are definitely writing music for the daily beans. That's right. Original. Original.

Mm-hmm. I've already heard some of it and it's fucking fantastic. Oh, it's hell yeah. All right. In the oranges daily episode, Jalisa said that Puerto Rico was a whole country of brown people, which was satire. But we got a great email reminding us that it's actually a whole unincorporated territory of brown people. Yes, and I appreciate the distinction.

It's not a country. There's no three Mexico's here totally right. And I think that was kind of the joke, but I think it was also sort of a joke where they're like, excuse me, it's an unencorporated territory. Yeah, I love teaching moments, which was also funny. And Shepherd Fairy did reach a settlement with the Associated Press and Manny Garcia, the original photographer of the Obama Hope picture. Yes. He also got probation and fine, which brings me to all the edge lords. Justice. Adding me about a sange like, we are, you don't like civil disobedience, but, per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per- And May 8th is coming up. The Hirehire 8th of May and National Outdoor Intercourse Day.

What? What's the birthday? Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. It's my husband's birthday too. What's in the water, man? What is that? It's an interesting day, which is also illegal, but that's what makes it exciting.

Good point. So, you know, back off. And besides, if Hassan gets convicted here, he'll sort of like four months in a hotel type jail situation with other lawyers and doctors and co-ins. Right, with Epstein. Yeah, Epstein and Cohen. It's not like fucking saltson it's in over here, so chill out, Guy Fox.

Yeah, and a reminder, Julian Assange is not someone that's committed to justice and getting, like he is a per, he gets money off of this you know he didn't release the rnc emails just the DNC one yeah i'm glad you mentioned that because we people don't talk about that which can and again another you know distributing stolen shit is an illegal unless you help steal it right but this particular case is about him this particular indictment is about him conspiring to help steal the stuff. Well, he didn't actually steal it. Well, you don't have to actually have the crime committed

to be part of the conspiracy. We all know that. And, you know, the second, he smears shit on walls. And he was picked up, he was actually technically arrested for skipping bail on rape charges, okay? Yeah, and so-

That's a bit of a thing. Fuck you, anyway. Love you. Mean it. bail on rape charges, okay? Yeah, and that's a big thing. Fuck you, God. Anyway, love you. I mean it. But God, man, there's a lot of those. Yeah, well, I get it because the concept of whistle blowing and working against a government that keeps things from you, that's something that I think most people see them married into one degree or another. Sure.

But when you do it in a way that puts other people's lives in jeopardy number one and number two is like on a certain side, it's not like an all-around lens of justice, then that becomes a different story than someone that's just trying to get the truth out to the people. And again, it's not several disobedience. If it's legal, it's not cool. If you're not breaking a lot.

So like, I get it, I love hackers. I still love movies. I love movie hackers. You're a cool mess with the lot. So like, I get it, I love hackers. I saw a lot of movie, I love movie hackers. You're a cool mess with the best I like the rest. Word up. You get caught, you do your time. That's part of the thing, right? Chelsea Manning was sentenced to 35 years for this.

And Obama commuted her sentence like, eh, go ahead. And I was like, rad, because you know, she served seven years. But she did her time, she did the crime, she was civilly disobedient, it was kind of badass. So however you feel personally about what was released isn't the issue. Yeah, it is so fucked up though, I think that she got way more prison time than like a man of four does. I think that's really fucked up. Yeah, I mean the woman who voted when she didn't realize she couldn't because she's a ex-failant or something like

that, she was charged with five years, right? Or can we get, yeah, I mean, the woman who voted when she didn't realize she couldn't because she's a ex-failenter, something like that. She was charged with five years, right? Or, can we get it? Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're going to talk about uneven sentences too when we get to the fantasy indictment like this week. Perfect. Or, somewhere later in the show, don't worry about it.

It'll happen. And let's see. Oh, we had a concern listener write in after I used the phrase Hail Hydra in a daily update because of the connection to a Holocaust, right? And first, I wanted to apologize. I didn't mean to jolt anybody. And then I wanted to explain my intention here because we've had this discussion before a lot of what you say has a lot to do with the intent, right?

I was quoting the Marvel universe, the Marvel comic universe, the one that turned into a meme Hail Hydra and they kind of made it sort of turned into this funny internet. You know, everybody for everything that Trump was doing would say, hey, oh, Hydra. Right. And we were talking about multi-headed monsters and stuff like that. So that's where the intent was. But acknowledged.

And I'm sorry if I caused you any discomfort. And thank you. Then let's see. Nope, that's it. Those are these. That's it. All right. That's all great though. Yeah. Those were good ones. We get to get nothing about the news. No, the corrections are usually just for fun. All right, guys, those are this week's corrections. If you have any send them to hello at MullershoeRote.com, we have a ton of news to get to so there might be a ton of corrections.

She wrote com we have a ton of news to get to so there might be a ton of corrections Again, we are comedians so We appreciate the corrections and we're happy to Dole them out when we make mistakes because accountability is big absolutely all right guys. Let's jump in with just the facts Okay, so the smartest man ever who doesn't want you to see his grades and the most exonerated guy ever who doesn't want you to see his grades, and the most exonerated guy ever who doesn't want you to see the Mueller report, is also the richest man ever who doesn't want you to see his tax returns. This week, the lesser man's John Oliver Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin vows that Trump's dank returns will never see the light of day. For years now, Trump has promised to release his taxes, but has said he can't because

he is under audit. Despite the IRS Commissioner and Party Animal, Charles Reddig, telling House Appropriations Subcommittee Tuesday that there's no rule prohibiting Trump from releasing his tax returns when he's under audit, if he's even under audit. And taking it a step further, Mick, the deficit doesn't matter, Mulvaney. This week said that last Sunday, the Dems and the American people will never see Trump's taxes. And that he could have, everyone knows he could have released them before the election,

but he didn't anyone the election anyways. So, did he though? Good question. Yeah, that's what we've been answering trying to at least for the last two years. Okay, so that sentence. Yeah, that was very good up me. Yeah, we've been answering trying to. I have this moment.

I have this moment. Yeah Speaking of watch out new trailer. It's fucking I have the laugh at the end. Oh my god. I cried I haven't seen him, but now I will a cry. It's one of the trailers I've ever seen Game of Thrones is I've never watched so I got to start from the beginning. Oh, you just binge it between now and then okay I was like I'll do it. Oh, you're binge it between now and then. Okay. No, you totally can't. I was like, I'll do it. Oh, you're like, oh, right. So it's only like four of us. Okay.

That would be way too much emotion for anyone human to how come back just drain. 25th period, yeah. So many tweets. If you don't have HBO or can't afford HBO, go. You can always just watch 10 seconds of porn intermittently throughout Lord of the Rings. I'm gonna be the same.

That's a good point. I can't remember who tweeted that big ups to you. All right, this month, guys, Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Neil demanded six years of Trump's personal and business taxes and had set the deadline for April 10th. And that night, Steve Manuchin stepped in and said the IRS would not comply with the request. And just yesterday, the committee's chair, Neil, wrote another letter saying Manuchin's concerns lack merit and he's stupid and have now given the IRS until April 23rd, setting the stage for further escalation in the matter.

If you're wondering why he didn't just come right out in subpoena, the tax returns after Manuchin said no, there are reports that he's laying the paper trail groundwork for a court battle in anticipation that the president will ignore the subpoena and they want to have their ducks in a row. So this is all part of that super slow grind of government processes and justice that we love. So smart. Yeah, they're playing the long game. The long con without the con.

Republicans have argued that Democrats risk weaponizing the IRS for political purposes, calling the request a gross abuse of power, which is hilarious coming from anyone who supports the Trump administration. Dems are not backing down, though, as they try other avenues for getting the taxes or financial information. For example, in New York state legislature, the state legislature is considering a bill that would allow state returns to be furnished when requested. And Elijah Cummings of the Oversight Committee said late Friday, he will be issuing a subpoena Monday morning for Maysars accounting firm to turn over Trump's financial records.

10 years worth. That's the friendly subpoena, right? That's right, you up. Yeah, you up. Yeah, subpoena, you up. Subpoena and Jalice have new taxes. Who does? Yeah, so that was the one where the Maysars was like,

hey, we want to comply, but we would feel safer And better about ourselves if you subpoena to us and he's like cool do it and he announced fried in night He's like, I'm gonna do it. You got a problem come at me, bro That's he literally said not that he said if you have an issue come talk to me this week Oh, okay, that's about to give mad props, but he did he did come at me, bro Yeah, still prop still pranking that youth vote. That's right. Yeah, the Bernie vote. Yeah Bernie Sure to podcast you guys see that yeah here the burn okay, that's so late You're the bird, but he is that guy. He's the granddad with the Joe's yeah granddad Joe

Hey, I just Do it everybody yeah, he's gonna have a lot of this better get a good sound guy because it's gonna be a lot of popping Definitely gonna peak that yeah, it's hosted by a female and she has them on as a guest That's interesting Bernie comes on as a guest of his own Oh, yeah, yeah, it's hosted by his Prosecretary. Is that like a podcast in the third person sort of? Yeah, it's a whole new game anger Yeah, I just think about starting a little one for bootage Just cuz I think he's gonna announce this Sunday and maybe do like 20 minutes

I bought some URLs. I got all the stuff ready I'm just gonna come out and be like hey, this is bootage. Judge podcast. We're gonna talk about everything bootage Did this week and everything you said this week and what is plat like pick a platform? It's kind of your specialty. That's really good. Yeah, every week be like here's what how it feels about this and talk about that for a few minutes And it's kind of a placeholder because Buttigieg's he's the millennial guy and he doesn't have a podcast yet But he also has an announced presidency true, but you get a head start But as soon as he wants it as soon as you want it Buttigieg. Yeah, I think you're good at that. Like doing podcasts in the long form about like individuals. Like so we're doing the subject, you know?

Yeah. And when I keep it clean, I'm not going to put new weird. Oh nice. What do they call a curative journalism? Yeah, good stuff. Nice, nice pull. Thank you. That's a big word.

That's funny that you need a podcast now to run for president. I mean, you know, you know, you did put a totally milk. Yeah, Hillary could have used one. Just especially. If you're trying to get millennials, I think that's know, you know, you know, it's hardly milk. Yeah, Hillary could have used one, especially if you're trying to get millennials, I think that's a big, that's a big thing. Yeah. But yeah, we're going to do that and it's going to be on Sundays and it might come out on Monday. I don't know yet. I'm just going to talk and keep it clean and nice and presentable

and presidential like it is. I can be. And then like I said, Pete Chaston, when you're ready for it, it's my gift to you. Very nice. For $8 million. No, I'm kidding. And then like I said Pete Chastain when you're ready for it. It's my gift to you. Very nice. For $8 million. No kidding. We're all creating like little side projects. I love how it's branching out. Yeah, no totally completely free. This is just a public service that I want to provide. That's amazing for the boots. Let's see here. Where was I? New York State legislature considering a bill that will allow state returns furnished when requested. And then of course Cummings, as I said, said he will be issuing the subpoena for maize ours. And of course, Nicholas Cage has vowed to fight the Knights Templar to get Trump's taxes

from the coded map on the back of the Declaration of Independence. So we're looking forward to that fight as well. National treason? That's so bad. National oranges. I don't know. We'll work on it. National oranges. I don't know. We'll work on it. Thank you.

It's a rational treasure. Oh, we get there. Thanks, babies. But the request coming is made to Mazaar's Mazers is amazing. This request, it says, quote, with respect to Donald J. Trump, the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust,

the Trump Organization Inc., the Trump Organization LLC, the Trump Corporation, DJT Holdings LLC, the Trump Old Post Office LLC, the Trump Foundation, and any parent subsidiary affiliate joint venture predecessor or successor of the foregoing, we would like. All statements of financial condition, annual statements, periodic financial reports, and independent auditor's reports, prepared, compiled, reviewed, or audited by Mazar's USA or its predecessor Wiser Mazar's LLP Also, we would like all communications between Donald Bender who's a guy at the firm Mazar's and Trump people and Trump associates and all that whole list and then all communications related to potential concerns that records documents

explanations or other information, including significant judgments provided by Donald J. Trump or other individuals from the Trump organizations listed before were incomplete or inaccurate or otherwise unsatisfactory. Damn. So hold on to your 1040s kids. For me, the goal here is to get all this information out before the 2020 election. That's the goal. And that's a political goal, and that's my goal. The goal here for the Houseways and Means is Committee is means is means is is their goal is to look at the Trump's tax returns, find out how the IRS is evaluating and auditing presidential and vice presidential tax returns to see if that program is effective and see if we have to come up with new legislation to provide

oversight for the audit of the IRS's administrative actions on presidential and vice presidential tax returns. Good point. Me, I just want to see the fucking numbers and I want it before the election. Yeah, but also for the next Trump that tries to run for president, you know? Yeah, yeah. And everyone who's like, oh, you're setting a bad president. It's like, for what?

Every single bad president. Every single, sorry. You said a bad president, not me. Every single Democrats turned over their tax returns that's been, that's run for president, except for Bernie Sanders, who I hear is doing it this week. Great. So.

He's announcing on here the burn. Yeah. He's gonna read the numbers for an hour. I think he was worried. The bird. I don't know if he was actually worried that his, his, his, his, his, his followers would find out he was a millionaire because of his book sales. Mm-hmm. I don't, who gives a, I, yeah, right?

It's the dumbest thing. Like, what? It's so stupid. It's like, how's it being a millionaire? And there's a difference between being a millionaire of like being worth a million dollars and then being worth like $900 million. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think it's like he came off sounding kind of tone deaf, I guess, because he was like, well, he was a billionaire, a billionaire, a billionaire, a billionaire. Well, and he also said,

if you write your own book, you can be a millionaire too. He said that and so people were like launching onto that and of like, how egregious of an offense. I mean, he actually had a good point. It comes off from a white old guy as pretentious, but I think it's beautiful that he believes that people could invest in their own art and narrative and make money. I think he's kind of saying, I did one thing and that one thing went well, and it got me all that money.

It's not like I sit here trading money all day. It's pretty much work hard. And at 78 million years old, or whatever, however old he is, you too can maybe reach a million dollars a year like a half a million dollars a year. And everyone's like, who owns three houses? And he has a million dollars. And I'm like, there are so many people,

including myself, that own a few houses. Yeah, if they earned it and worked hard for it, that's the dream I would like that. Yeah, you know, and that is what helps me put this podcast together and give y'all jobs and give everybody health care and all that stuff. Yeah, well they have this idea that like socialism or whatever means that because of their own distorted idea of what that means, you know, they think it's like you give away literally

all of your assets and stuff and it's like a it's a misconception about especially how ideals of socialism function within a democracy like a capitalist democracy. It's like the air mask on the airplane, right? You got to take care of yourself before you can help out anyone else. And Bernie, being a millionaire in America is not like what it used to be. It's still kind of, I know it sounds crazy, but it's not that great anymore. It's awesome, but it's not what it used to be. It's not what it used to be. Right.

That's called inflation, for sure. But I got attacked a little bit by some Bernie supporters, but like, oh, you don't know what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, actually, I do. I do technically live paycheck to paycheck. I just pay a bunch. I just spend a lot.

But you see, I make a lot, but I spend a lot. Right, right. And it's to, for this, and to get, like I said, give you guys jobs and health care. I've got to write pay checks. I pay more. You're maintaining more so you spend more but it's still a paid it's still month to month.

Right. And I never started to be able to save money until I was 44 years old. Which is amazing. Obamina and Piaf his student loans I heard until he was president. Is that a fact? That's a good name. Yeah. Corrections.

Yeah. They don't. But I believe that. But I've got shitload of student debt too. So I'm like, you know, step down. I'm not an elite. You're not student debt to so I'm like, you know, step down. I'm not an elite You're not the one percent. I'm not bougie. I am but we never mind right Anyway, I just I don't understand

Why Trump supporters don't want to see his taxes or they aren't demanding his taxes to Especially when it comes to stuff like Julian Assange and WikiLeaks when they're like, to full transparency, full transparency, but they don't want a full Mueller report, they don't want the full tax. Yeah, typically those people wouldn't be pro-Assange though because Assange is for a while like, you know, a hero to the left. But he's a tiny, blonde, and tall, they care about. Yeah, a true Assange fan. If you're a real Assange fan, what were his first two songs?

Oh, no. Name two songs besides... Hey, what's his cat's name name name two songs besides Chelsea Manning name two crimes besides computer for outing to be exact so funny but the the thing is is like if you're a real if you're really into that kind of transparency thing then you will want to see Trump's taxes you will want to see the full mother report and I'm looking for that Venn diagram I'm looking for where the twain shall meet and I haven't seen it yet. Does people who get Trump supporters who want to suck Julius Ange's butthole,

or then the true people who really fucking believe in transparency who just aren't saying anything. Because they're cooler people. Right, the people in the middle are definitely the minority. It's kind of the problem with America right now. There are a lot of people that don't know how to feel about it, for sure.

Yeah, and putting in that good reason. Put me in that group too. Yeah. Again, I love civil disobedience, but I think that if you should be arrested for it, because again, if it's not illegal, it's no fun. Yeah. If our government wasn't so fucked up, though, over time, we wouldn't be in this position. That's true. Thanks America. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks Obama. Thanks Obamacac. Obamacac. Also this week, there was some bizarre shit going down with the southern border. For a while now, I've believed personally that Trump is trying to orchestrate a crisis at the border to scare people, scare his electorate using xenophobia and fear into believing

that there's an emergency at the border. There is a humanitarian crisis in South America and particularly and uh... particularly the three the three mexico's right right triangle there uh... but this week all those beings kind of came true first we know that trump is moving to stop aid to the three mexico's which like i said that

sorry the elitist educated among us know it as ala knows them as it i'll salvador guanamal and Honduras uh... but i think this is simply to drive more asylum seekers north. I don't know if this is an intended or an unintended consequence. I think it's intentional, but that's going to create more migrants wanting to come here. He's willing to kill thousands to prove a point by cutting

aid to these countries and send more migrants for him to turn away, detain, or separate. It's like he's, Beto Arors said, he's the arsonist who wants to get credit for putting out the fire. And guys, this isn't a new idea. Trump doesn't have new ideas. He borrows from authoritarian regimes of the past. Any move, and this particular move reminds me

of a quote from Thomas Moore's utopia. Quote, for if you suffer your people to be ill-educated and their manners to be corrupted from their infancy, then punish them for those crimes, to which their first education disposes them, what else can be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves and then punish them. And that's kind of what I'm feeling here

when he's withdrawing this aid and trying to, you know, get the migrant flow up so he can just block them at the border or, you know, even in our own country, defunding education. Yeah. It's straight out of a dictator's pin book or what's been happening to people of color for pretty much since America's been here. But I think they said hate crimes on CNN is going up not on CNN but CNN said that hate crimes in

America is going up like over 100% like it's like 180 or something. Yeah, and in counties where Trump has held rallies, over 340%. So, but that, I mean, what I'm talking about here is you create this uneducated class system so that people born into that who are forced to steal and break the law are then, and then you punish them and make money off of them by putting them in jail. Right, it's like a cycle.

Yeah, totally terrible. But Trump had a new low this week as we learned that the Trump administration actually reached out to ICE and the Department of Homeland Security twice in the last six months with an idea to bus-detained asylum seekers to sanctuary cities as political punishment for not getting his wall and additional cages pretty much. He did this in November as a caravan approach, and then again in February when he was trying to build more cages to detain more families. And only one of two things can be true here, and we talked about this in one of the daily

episodes, either Trump actually believes that asylum seekers are all gang members, murderers, rapists, MS-13, angry, crazy murderers, and he wants to actually unleash those violent criminals on Democrat citizens in Democrat cities. Or he knows that his rhetoric is bullshit, which is probably the more likely scenario. He knows his rhetoric is bullshit and that the migrants are harmless, amazing, diverse families, so he wasn't risking anyone's lives, but rather he's just trying to make a point by trying to drain resources from the Democrats. But in either case, I think we're going to agree that this goes against his catch and

release thing he hates, because that's exactly what it is. He's always warning everybody about catch and release. It's terrible. It doesn't work. Let's catch him and release him. And then not to mention, it's a pretty blatant abuse of power for someone who says that Dems requesting his tax returns is an abusive power. And then if that didn't go far enough, the White House responded to this reporting saying, oh no, no, no, he said it.

He didn't mean it. He was joking. Really, it wasn't serious. Uh, we don't want any of that. It wouldn't, it's not even legal. We, we turned it down. That is so insulting that he can say that. And then they can just say it's not the case and it's all good.

It got shut down. Uh, but fried, yeah, that isn't saying. So insulting that he can say that and then they can just say it's not the case and it's all good. They got shot down, but fried. Yeah, that is insane. But then Friday, Trump tweeted, no, no, no. I considered it. I'm still considering it. I still want to bust migrants to sanctuary cities if they're all open arms. And the Democrats responded by saying, awesome, we love immigrants. I know. That's what I don't get about this. We're a nation of immigrants. They make our city stronger. We love diversity. Send them. We need immigrants. I know that's what I don't get about this. We're a nation of immigrants. They make our city stronger. We love diversity send them We need them. He must know that they're fine with this. So I'm trying to figure out what his real angle is here like Honestly, I think he just wants to create chaos and yeah, or he wants certain people in certain cities to be like Oh shit, there are immigrants everywhere. We do need the wall. Oh

Okay, I get the people that still believe him. Yeah, yeah or that don't believe him and wants to change their minds. Maybe he can maybe he can increase his base. That makes a lot more sense. It's very Trumpian. Yeah, when I was talking to my boyfriend about this, he was like, okay, cool. That sounds like a good idea. Bring them to people that actually will work to get them the resources, but I know obviously that's not that simple. Oh, and also we'd like to request additional federal funding. Right. Yeah, yeah, because for schools, he won't, though. Of course, no.

He wanted to do a federal fund, not okay. He wanted to stop sending federal funding to sanctuary cities to punish them for even being sanctuary cities. In fact, they're called sanctuary cities. Like, why is that a negative thing? That's in itself, by definition, beautiful. Bleeding heart, liberal sanctuaries. Yeah. And that's a negative, it's supposed to be a negative. It's not like rape is central. It's sanctuary. Sanctuaries where you go to be safe. Yeah. They would certainly get treated better

if they were processed through a sanctuary city. For sure. I would imagine so. Depending on the numbers. Any two large amount of a number of things will break a system. I know it will still overwhelm those that do have these programs to help them, but you're right about it being overall better for them. Yeah, and of course, these are beans, but it can't be a coincidence

that pretty much every political appointee at ICE Customs and Border Patrol and Department of Homeland Security have either been fired or resigned lately. Wow. Recently. We need a chart for that. Like one of those, just to like, visualize it because it's crazy how many people have left

under this administration. Yeah, they have no one to head up anything at DHS right now. And that's how they want it. Yeah, it's not Trump on set. Yeah, he prefers acting. Yeah, he prefers acting. Um, maybe he thinks it's like acting like as an actor. Right.

He's like, yeah, I know Hollywood. I know acting. I like acting. He came right out of central casting. He says that all the time. He does. Maybe that's what he thinks in acting. But the most.

Come alone in the White House. Come on. That's the fun. That'd be fun to booby trap the White House. Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah. So, but the most amazing piece

of the story, and it's been reported that during his recent border visit, Trump told the acting director of ice to go ahead and break the law, refuse entry to asylum seekers. Just turn them away, send them back to Mexico. That's against the law. And the ice guy, he said that to a room full of people. And then when Trump left, the ice guy said, everybody don't do that. That's against the law, don't do it, don't do it. And then apparently after that, he Trump ran into him again outside the door, and Trump said, hey, do it. Break the law, he didn't say the words break the law,

but he's like, stop it, turn him away, send him back to Mexico. If you go to jail, I'll pardon you. And to that, I say that Elijah Cummings immediately needs to subpoena everyone in that room, put them under oath, ask them what happened, because if this reporting is true, Trump should be charged with dangling a pardon

as a bribe for illegal acts. That is, right, that's illegal, right? Got to be. And if it's not, it's impeachable. Yeah. But again, so many crazy stories out every day that, which just flies right by and nobody knows. Yeah, I'm hoping it'll be like watergate

and just come right back to vitamin A. It's like, he feels safe now. Like, I'm exonerated, but then I'm hoping that it'll just, you know, come back 10 fold. It'll be nice. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. We need everybody to stay engaged though.

Everyone, I don't, you know, I know that everyone's tired of it. We're hearing about it, but we have to stay engaged. We have to. This is going to be the hardest gear for this election. Yeah, even if he wins though. This is going to be the hardest length of focus we've had to apply in our lives probably. And it's important that we do it.

Definitely. He will not get reelected. He might. I don't want to do so. No, no. All right. We want to retain it for now. He might if we tried toed. He might. I don't want to. No, no, no, all right. No, we want to retain it for now. He might if we tried to impeach him and then fail to remove him. What if Russia hacks us again? I know what's protecting us. We have to vote numbers too big to manipulate. Hmm. We have to stay positive. I am positive. Yes. I agree. I agree.

And now we are moving into a week four of attorney general bill bar doing what we all feared he might do and shove the molar report in a a drawer effectively hiding it from the american public and congress and despite republican senator kennedy's assertion this week that if the muller report were released people will be killed people will be killed and they say women are too emotional for public office right and if he means like someone that you know actually could be killed through some kind of intelligence situation like you would think that that means let's see what's you know in the report summaries at least it sounds even more concerning if that's the case like there's more on the line if that's true. Yeah true. But it might not be true. Well if he was talking about

sources and methods like Valerie Plain for example a situation like that. Then yet that means that there's serious information in the report and you Jelisa reported that earlier in the week. I don't know what the fuck he was thinking and I can't ever pretend to know what Kennedy is thinking because he's just such an idiot. But what we do know is 86% of Americans want to see the full report. And while I personally do not want the full unredacted report underlying materials and grand jury findings released to the public because it could jeopardize the 20 or so open and ongoing investigations birthed by the Mueller investigation. They're like Mueller's

kids. Yeah. I would I would would like the public to get the summary is that the Mueller team wrote just for us. And I think Congress should get the full unredacted report underlying materials and grand jury materials because that's what you do because that's what the report if if it if it wasn't for them who the fuck was it for exactly who the fuck are you going to give it to yeah and then the idea that people at the White House that shouldn't even have security clearances are getting to read it all probably yeah well that's huge beans yeah yeah I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure Matthew Whitaker read the read the top I like the hash beans. That's huge beans. That might not be the case. Total beans.

But I'm pretty sure Matthew Whitaker read the top. That's why he was sweating so much. Yeah. Flatten baller. Of course, this week, Bar testified in an open budgetary hearing and decided it would be a good idea to say the FBI was spying on the Trump campaign or he thought they were spying, even though he could provide no evidence of that. Nor has anyone in the last two years that they've been accusing the FBI of spying on the trump campaign or he thought they were spying even though he could provide no evidence of that nor has anyone in the last two years that they've been accusing the FBI of spying on the trump campaign and that prompted career professionals like komi

and brennan to say the FBI doesn't spy asshole they investigate they surveil which just proves to me that bar is all in for protecting trump and advancing his bullshit narrative that that performance was for one person audience and it was Donald Trump. Is it the CIA that does the spying? Because someone does spy, right? Or is that NSA? We don't really call it spying and it's something that we do to other, to our adversaries. Okay, yeah, just like Christopher Steel, right?

I was like, spies do exist in some government capacities. Yeah, I don't know what I would agree with. But we don't spy on our own citizens. Right, yeah, that makes sense. They be surveilled or investigated through a trial. Right, or spies are worn out through. Right, yeah, that makes sense. They've been sent to the Older Investigated through a triumphant process. Right, or a size of warrants. Yeah, we serve warrants.

We investigate, especially when they meet with the Russians a hundred times in lie about it. We look into that. Makes sense, yeah. We don't spy on it, and that was a really, really bad way to put it, but. What about the Patriot Act? That doesn't count, right?

That's spying on them. Okay, okay. So that's the exception. No, you're right about everything else, not intending to, but what about the Patriot Act? That doesn't count right, because he's... That's spying on the market. Okay, okay. So that's the exception. No, you're right about everything else, not intending to, but that particular act does make it legal, I guess. Well, and honestly, I wouldn't even classify that as that. I mean, the Patriot Act allows for them to look at communications between Americans and other people.

If they aren't gathering all of our emails and phone calls and all that shit. Like some people think that that's what the Patriot Act does. That's what they're doing. They're trying to find communications between maybe American contacts and terrorists or other foreigners or bad actors and they don't amass everyone's emails somewhere and then go and they have on file where they can just go grab them if they need them. Got it.

Definitely not how it works. You have to go through the FISA warrant process to the FISC to get that kind of information. If you want the pen register, the phone calls, or anything, a wire tap, or anything like that, you have to go through these massive procedures that we've, Jordan's outlined for us on the show. Yes, yes, adequately. Yeah, I still don't like to pay trade act though. Yeah, yeah.

Questionable. Yeah. But you have to, like, toe align between national security and liberty. And it's like, and I, for one, I'm like, my social security number is everywhere. My DNA, you can have it on file. You can ship me.

You can get my fingerprints on file. I am not, I don't have no fear. You have nothing to hide, but your name. You're exactly. Except who I am, where I work. But that's it. But, like, for, like, for serious, I was in the military. My blood type and everything, I'm so well documented.

And I have so many tattoos that it would be really stupid of me to commit a crime. Right, because they'll cut you. Yeah, they totally will. And then there's the weird Alexa thing that records everything that you do, that's weird. Oh yeah. So yeah, I mean, we can sit here and talk about privacy

versus liberty all day, but you know, Trump's a dickhead. So no, I do not trust Barr one bit to thoughtfully redact the report he intends to release next week. And Thursday, House Dems wrote another letter, again, probably laying the paper trail for the legal battle to come, like the other guys were doing with the tax returns, demanding the full unredacted report and evidence for congress as well as condemning the attorney general for his characterization of the FBI's investigation into the trump

russia probe calling it spying which is so irresponsible i mean that that single phrase right there just ripped my belief in an independent judicious not judiciary, justice, department of justice. Right, I think inspect their gadget. Like it does them no justice. Okay. You guys remember that? I do remember it's better than that. I don't remember the quote. Oh, no, I don't remember the quote from the movie there,

but just the idea of like them spying on us. Like it doesn't sound good. Sorry, it just made me think of Inspector Gatchett, yeah. Yeah. Well, we also had Don McGann speak out this week. As we learned, the Mueller is packing up his office and just saying, McGann basically said, I spent the last couple years getting yelled at,

and you may soon read about some of the more spirited debates I had with the president. And as we know, Don McGann is central to the obstruction question, as he witnessed most of it, as did Prebus and Bannon, all part of obstruction junction, and all who still retain the same lawyer. And as you know, we've long said that if you have the same lawyer, you have to sing off the same sheet of music,

because otherwise there would be an ethical violation. So, that's still happening. And then some other things McGahn said this week was that Trump runs the White House with a hub and spoke model often assigning the same test to multiple people, and that Trump trusts no one, really, which harkens back to the paranoid and criminal Nixon administration,

that John Dean referred to as a cancer on the presidency. He also said that you might be kept like a list of enemies, which Trump has to, and he'd go after his enemies with tax returns, just kind of like how Trump goes after Bezos with the post office shift. Yeah, yeah. Or wants to release migrants into the sanctuary cities. Yeah.

He again also said one of Trump's main goals was to stack the courts with judges that will spend 30 to 40 years unwinding the power of executive agencies centralizing the power to the president. But the weird thing this week is another witness to obstruction by the president. Rod Rosenstein defending the actions of Bill Barr and main justice, which just blows my mind.

I hope one day we figure out what's going on in his head because I can't imagine he'd be a whipping boy for two years just to roll over now. Unless he's just trying to protect the appearance of the independence of the Justice Department, which as I said is all dried up when Barr said we were spying on Trump. And then let's see, more this week, Devon Moones. He got all kinds of cowpucky this week, and Jordan, you're going to cover new Nez and your hot note. Yeah.

But most interesting to me this week is everything we learned about Mueller's spawn. The 20 or so investigations now open it on going into Trump. He's campaigned Russia, the Middle East, his inaugural, the associates, and his businesses just to name a few. We learned this week that the Flynn case has been handed off to the US Attorney's Office in DC. We also found out that the Southern District of New York has been questioning Hope Hicks and Trump bodyguard Keith Schiller about the hush money payments. And we found out recently that the Roger Stone case, which wreaks of conspiracy, was handed off to the US Attorney's Office in DC as well. And if that's not enough, we found out that from a stone filing this week, one of the stone filings, there were many, that one of Mueller's team, Zelensky, who joined Mueller's

team from Maryland, came from Maryland to be on Mueller's team, has now been reassigned to the US Attorney's Office in DC as the special assistant to the US Attorney, Jesse Liu, who if you'll remember was going to move up to number three at main justice, but then Trump said no. So he's moved there. And you might want to keep your eyes on where the rest of Mueller's team ends up after the seeds blow into the wind. My money is SDNY, Southern District of New York, Eastern District of Virginia, or DC. I think a lot of them will end up in those places. And of course, we know Van Grack ended up heading up a phara unit at main justice so put some beans on that we also and that maybe that's what Rosenstein's doing he's just trying to orchestrate all these cool things before but he's not in charge anymore bars in charge so yeah yeah

I would hope that he'd be trying but like Jordan was saying in the daily episodes he might just want out to I would would. I'd be like, I can give me over this. I'm over the, I'm still going to be torn between what is right and what I've been doing. Yeah, I see. Oh, by the way, that quote from earlier is go go gadget. Yeah, go go gadget arms. Go go gadget. Yeah. Sorry. Yep. Anyway, let's see. Put some beans on that. Muller's team go into the wind. Oh, we also got the Jim Baker transcripts this week. Jim Baker is one of the OG Comey 5, right? That's the name we gave to the five FBI officials.

Comey shared his contemporaneous notes with when he had all those weird meetings and loyalty asks from Trump. And he did that at their peril because they've all retired, been fired or quit. We added Bente as an honorary sixth member of the Komi 5, but Jim Baker's testimony is really amazing. I encourage you to read it.

In it, Baker says that pretty much every top official was distressed that Trump obstructed justice when he fired Komi. He quote, the leadership of the FBI, so the acting director, the heads of national security apparatus, the national security folks within the FBI, the people that were aware of the underlying investigation, and who had been focused on it, along with a bunch of justice department officials. So just those folks were worried about obstruction. Baker also said that Rosenstein wasn't joking when he talked to McCabe about wearing a

wire. As McCabe's memos have stated, and this might be why these transcripts of Jim Baker's testimony to the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees were released this week by a Republican, Doug Collins, probably thinking he'd bolster the claims that the FBI was spying on Trump by releasing Baker's testimony that Rosenstein wanted to wear a wire. You know, that whole deep state theory. Baker also explained how upset Rosenstein was when Trump used his memo to fire Komi. Something McCabe also talks about in his book, if you're a patron, and listening to those book club episodes.

Which is really freaking me out that Rosenstein supports Bar, and Bar's thing that he did with his letter and the Mueller report. And yeah, I don't say right with me. And again, we asked, I ask why Rosenstein didn't recuse himself? Why he wasn't a witness in the obstruction of justice case? Because that memo, his memo was used as the, you know, the justification for firing coming. Yeah. He's like two strikes in now. He got one more Rosenstein.

And you don't make the next sexy justice calendar. Yeah, I feel like it's sorry. I was like, yes. Sorry. He'll never be in there. I feel like him recusing himself, though, would almost be like taking a stance on the matter preemptively sort of. Which I would even recuse would be the decision in itself.

You're totally right. I just wish he would take a stand, but I know why he's not. You'd tell me. But that means he was never interviewed about it because it had he been interviewed, he would have had to recuse himself. Unless he was interviewed about it after a bar came in or Whitaker came in or something, but I don't know. I really don't know. But the craziest part of this was a baker said there were actually two cabinet members that endorsed the notion of invoking the 25th Amendment to remove

Trump as president. Really? Only two? All right. And finally this week in all Mueller's children, we have the Sam Patton case, which was also fully handed off to DC, and likely contains a bunch of stuff about funneling foreign money into Trump's inaugural, because that's what Sam Patton did. He used a straw donor to take a $50,000 payment from a pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarch named Lavochkin to buy tickets to Trump's inaugural. Interestingly, Lavochkin, along with Art Manko, are the dudes that Manafort gave the Tony for Breach's Yo Trump polling data to via Constantin Calimnic during private briefings designed to pay back Oleg Darapaska for the $19 million him and Rick Gates stole from him in an telecom deal. As it turns out, Amy Burman, Judge

Jackson, if you're nasty, let Sam Pattenoff with probation only a $5,000 fine and $500 of community service despite his fucked up crimes because apparently he offered substantial assistance to prosecutors in several ongoing and undisclosed investigations likely all the probes into the Trump inaugural and perhaps more that we don't even know about I don't know And the details on how patent helped the government were filed in a sealed addendum. So yeah, the Mueller investigation is totally over you guys filed in a sealed addendum. So yeah, the Mueller investigation is totally over, you guys. Nothing to see here. Everybody pay your tabs, get out. You don't have to go home. She can't stay here. And that's where we are now. We're at the Mueller after party waiting for all the other shoes to drop. We're going to be here a while. So I don't know what kind of music they play at the Mueller after party, but. Oh, yeah, we should make a playlist like we've

been talking about forever. Yeah, we totally should. Because that's what this is. We're in the after party. Right. Nice. It's another terrifying election story this week. Guys, BB Nanyahu was reelected for I think a fifth term, but yeah, totally a democracy. And get this. It was reported this week that a PR firm behind BB's party put hidden cameras in Arab polling

sites to lower voter turnout. And then they bragged about how well it worked. The Lee Kud party apparently placed 1200 hidden cameras at Arab polling stations on election day. And they boasted that they were able to keep the voter turnout under 50% the lowest in recent years. And when you're bragging about suppressing the vote, that is fucked up beyond recognition. Oh yeah. And we all know authoritarians only win elections when the vote is suppressed or fucked up beyond recognition. Oh yeah. And we all know authoritarians only win elections when the vote is suppressed, or if they cheat, or both.

And now I'm dying to know if Steve Bannon or Emma Data, the SkyNet formerly known as Cambridge Analytica, helped them with this attack on free and fair elections. And in a related story, we also learned this week that all 50 United States election systems were targeted by Russia in the run up to 2016. The previous number of states we thought to be 21, but sure, free and fair elections, Trump won fair and square, and Trump supporters will find a way to justify this because they don't want real democracy anymore than they want healthcare until it's taken away from them.

And let's see what else. We got a couple of straggler stories here. Amazon owner Jeff Bezos is going full Southern District in New York this week. Jolissa has that story for us later in hot notes. And we had a cornucopia of indictments this week. We'll go over that with you in the fantasy indictment league. But sure, no further indictments are coming. And finally, we got some new information on the Republican Rub-and-Tug Queen Cindy

Yang. The Palm Beach Post reported Friday that there was a ton of undisclosed cash that flowed into the Trump inaugural with ties to China via an embattled Chinese casino. The Asian Pacific American presidential inaugural gala was attended by more than 900 people who paid at least $75 for ticket, and two main sponsors shelled out way more. But now there's no trace of where any of that money went, even though tracking is required by law.

And of course this story wouldn't be complete without a Squid Pro Crow. One of the event organizers and Trump campaign aid Jason Osborne followed up the event by lobbying for a bill to help the Northern Mariana Islands, home of the Sapien Casino, one of the sponsors of this, and Trump signed it. And the National Committee of Asian American Republicans, that's a super PAC and charge of raising money for the event, took in between five and 15,000 dollars from each of about 20 sponsors, plus hundreds of those smaller donations that we talked about.

The executive director of the PAC told the Palm Beach Post, he knows exactly where the money went, but quote, I don't want to tell you. Interesting. And he then said, oh, the money went to the right account, but I just don't have to tell you where that is. Of course, the PAC director is an associate of Cindy Yang, who was once the

head of the committee that hosted that gala, and we all know what she's been investigated for, selling access to Trump just like Cohen and Brody did. And there are several entities investigating Trump's bloated inaugural, and we'll keep following them for you. So also stick around for the interview later in the show because Scott Stemman and I will be talking about another Cindy Yang story he broke in Medium this week. And it's really, it's all about her body of work. No pun intended, it's really, it's a really interesting story though. Alright guys, we'll be right back with hot notes.

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man, Jeff Bezos, is meeting with federal prosecutors in New York to discuss Saudi Arabia possibly being behind the national inquire story that exposed Bezos and about, you know, having an affair and they threatened to extort him. So these prosecutors are seeking to access Bezo's electronic devices in an attempt to quote, examine Bayzo's allegation that the Saudi's game private information from his phone. And as we know, this info ended up in the hands of AMI, which then published the info in their tabloid

the National Inquirer. The woman who Bayzo's was having an affair with, we know is Lauren Sanchez, and apparently her brother, Michael Sanchez, aka Dirty Sanchez, aka Dirty Burrinos. He was involved in the leaking of this information. And so far, Bezos and his attorneys have turned over the documents and other materials to federal authorities. However, they have yet to turn over his electronic devices.

I'm trying to figure out like, is it because he has too many dick picks? I don't know why he wouldn't just go with it. But in all seriousness, Bezos believes that he was targeted by the Saudis because he owns the Washington Post, which of course did not kindly cover the murder of their columnist Jamal Kashoggi, and recently Bezos added attorney Matthew Schwartz to his team, who spent over a decade as a federal prosecutor in New York, and what Schwartz and other lawyers are trying to figure out is whether or not the actions of AMI violated the non-proscution agreement that they made last year. In fact, as part of the agreement, AMI officials quote, admitted to its involvement in a hush money scheme to influence the 2016 presidential

election by silencing a woman who claimed in a fair within candidate Donald Trump and agreed to not commit any crimes for three years. But now it's only been a year and we're already trying to figure out if they broke the law again. Not to mention Michael Cohen is heavily involved in this agreement. So yeah, I doubt we'll hit the last of that. And apparently the prosecutors are also looking into another set of claims made by Bayzo's security consultant Gavin DeBecker, who said quote, our investigators in several experts concluded with high confidence that the Saudis had access to Bayzo's phone and gained private information. As of today it is unclear to what degree if any AMI was aware of the details.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. So basically the Becker believes that. Of beans on them being clear about it. Definitely. That's what I'm thinking. Becker believes that even though AMI paid dirty burnt rentals for the information, it was the Saudis who originally obtained the materials and of course the Saudi government denies these claims, but it

doesn't sound like Bezos is backing down. So he already lost his wife, and he's got more money than any of us combined, so he's got nothing left to lose, right? We might as well go for it. Yeah, and last is wife, she did date a forced. That's right, she didn't perish. Yeah, sorry, making that clear, she's now the richest woman in the world, she's not perish.

Yeah, so there she goes. All right, well, cool. Thanks for that update. Interesting. Thank you. For sure. Bayza, some Southern district in New York. Interesting.

To the Lord's work. It's going to be the Lord's work. All right, Jordan, how's Kauman this week? Yeah, Kauman. So if you follow our daily beans episodes, you will have heard about him multiple times because he was busy like I said being a Completed idiot this week.

Number one, so he's planning on sending eight criminal referrals to Eternal Gent, a turtlene general bar, but we don't know who they are exactly. He did say though that five of the referrals relate to lying to Congress, Miss leading Congress, and leaking classified information, and the other referrals relate to allegations of lying to the FISA court. So these are going to be people from the Justice Department and FBI. Yeah, I probably. And I probably. And Paige and McCabe and Komi and Cohen and anybody who's testified against Trump, basically. So essentially what this is is he's asking Bart to open up a

criminal investigation into these people which is not a light subject matter at all and I think he I remarked on this in the daily episodes he just has no power anymore and he's going insane and is just trying to sue people whatever he can and just create havoc. Because that's what he does. He's a goddamn troll. Congressional troll. Nunez is also planning on meeting with bar apparently. Or at least in his head, he plans to meet with bar in the near future to describe what his referrals, you know, entail exactly. And he's also taking

fellow GOP committee member John Ratcliffe with him. And when bar testified on Tuesday, he had said that he hadn't seen the referrals yet from Nunez, but will open investigations if predicate exists for one. So that's scary to me that he said that, because we have no idea what this guy is going to think, you know, is considered grounds to open up an investigation. So really hope that meeting doesn't happen. The attempts are really upset that this meeting might even happen at all because it severely breaks norms for the attorney general to meet with only select members of the committee

like that. It just members from one party. And that's what that sounds like it is. Usually, if he's ever having any meetings with them, it includes majority and minority members across the board. That's it. Well, if I had to guess, if I had to put beans on the eight criminal referrals, feel free to play along. Somebody wants to start off as many as many face, but as fancy and a little bit fancy, I'm gonna say Cohen, McCabe, Baker, Comey, Struck, Page, Rosen Rosenstein and probably Hillary

Well, it's it might actually be Bente But it's it's not a bad list. Yeah, I could be bodice, but though that's where my money is is on those that they're rando I'll put a rando at the end. Yeah, those sound about right. The people he's directed the most shade towards. Yeah. Yeah. And then more newness shit that happened. He filed a $150 million defamation lawsuit against

the Maclatchee company. Defication. That's the thing. And bullshit. Yeah, seriously. Thanks. Yeah. Cow.

Cow shit. Oh, even better. Yeah, sorry. That's just good pun. You can put me in this. I love a good poop pun. And the lawsuits also against Virginia communications consultant. There's this woman named Liz mayor who was also named in the lawsuit that he filed against Devin Cal and all of those Twitter accounts for making follow him. Yeah.

On one and accounts following us, right? Until it is. Devin Cal follows all those Twitter accounts for making fun of him. Yeah. And the accounts following us, right? Until he gets. Devin Cal follows us, I believe. Thank you. Yeah, that just happened this week. I was very proud. I tweeted about it. Thanks.

And if you want to be on the show. Apparently, yeah, Anne hit him up and was like, follow the bullshit with her. I think I can get a- Oh, thanks, Anne. I think I can get a cow interpreter in here. Oh, yeah. That'd be a good segment.

We're just going to beat that dead cow. Right, the first cow interview. We're really gonna run it into the ground. It's so funny. We gotta get him before Ellen gets it. Yeah. Or her. Devon and his cow could be a lady. That is so true. That was our favorite. Yeah, true. It would only be logical that it would be a lady. And related news, I saw a video today about a bunch of cows that saw grass for the first time in a long time. Oh god, that's so sad. I know. Beautiful. Okay, sure.

Agreed, agreed. But it was so cute. Yeah, they were like jumping around. Maybe you want to be vegan for like five minutes. Yeah, it did. Yeah. Otherwise they're just like walking around on pointy drought rocks. I'm getting, I don't know, it's a weird one.

That would be really hard for you seeing as you don't eat vegetables. True, yeah, yeah. That's a tough one. Yeah, okay, so yeah, so Nunez filed this lawsuit and it's over the story that was published about his connections to people that were present on a yacht party, where apparently Cocaine was being had and prostitutes were being discussed.

And potentially some of them were underage and this came from someone that was working the party and was like I saw some fucked up shit. This is... Oh, no. I should have put that in corrections because somebody had said you know don't make fun of the boat hose on the yacht party thing because they were trafficked and I was like I hadn't heard that. I thought you know they were sex, because this person was like,

oh no, most prostitutes come in through trafficking and I'm like, actually, I know a lot of independent, adult sex workers. Yeah. And no shame in the game of being a boho, I guess that's, but that's exactly where I go in my head. Yeah. I know folks that do this and so it's like,

oh, I just assume, but if these are traffic to underage girls, of course, that's terrible. Right. I would never condone that. Yeah, I think our angle of making fun of them was because they were, you know, working for shitty people. But still respect the hustle, I guess. Yeah, that is really awful if that was the case.

I should know if it's a Republican yacht party. They're going to be underage or traffic. Yeah, that's awful. I'm sorry. Trump supporter. No Republican. There we go. There we go.

Yeah, in my experience Yeah, coming from Vegas. I had some people that were pretty close to me that did sex work and That was definitely like a thing that they did is just go and sort of Be client like their clients were DC people and then like wealthy people like this and and they and they probably were off and around like yeah Which is good and really sad that that's possible that this was the case here. Yeah. But the story that was published was connecting Nunez

to this debauchery because he invests in the winery that apparently the, it was a charity event. A charity yacht event. Wow. They were the winery that was putting that on Alpha Omega winery. He invests in. And so he's coming out saying, don't connect me to those people. This is the complete smear campaign.

I wasn't even close to being on the boats. And I didn't know, obviously, that any of that stuff was happening. And I mean, I believe that. I believe that. I do believe that. I think the last rarely believed moon is. But I believe that. I I believe that I believe that I do believe that I think the lost really believe moon is but I believe I believe that yeah, I believe that as well but he said on Hannity to all the people out there that are defaming him

if you're out there and you lied and you defamed we are going to come after you which I guess is gonna assume a lot of cheer up yeah no we're not mean enough we We need to step out our game. We just tell them who's right. Yeah, and also, so he's never even filed a formal request for a correction with a newspaper, by the way, to get them to change it. So it didn't seem like he was at the party or somehow knowingly investing in these practices.

He didn't even dry. He just went straight to suing them and bitching on Twitter and everywhere else. So this woman mayor was also defended in the Twitter case and I wonder what the connection there is exactly. So that might be an interesting thing to look into. And Nunez's lawyers tried to prove that they were trying to smear Nunez. This is great. So they created this, they searched for Nunez prostitutes cocaine, you know, all

of these like smear quote unquote smear words. Oh, this is like Nunez's lawyer right? Yes, because they're looking for offensive tweets. Yes, exactly. So they searched keywords, right? Yeah, they searched keywords and to prove that they were trying to manipulate news and reporting essentially to connect Nunez with these words and they screenshot it the results the search results the tweets that came up and when you search for a certain word and you find a tweet

that has that word it bodes the word so they took screenshots of this tweet and they were like look at this they even bolded. They even bolded the words. They bolded the words. They're all like, that's all they're doing. It's trying to emphasize these connections. And they're like, you fucking idiots. It bulves it because that's what Twitter does when you search for it. Search terms.

Yeah, like if you do it on Wicked or something and it highlights the words that you look at, high cocaine is highlighted. Yeah, and you search for cocaine, dude. Yep. Yeah, dude. Yup, yeah, exactly. So he is also just throwing in that he thinks this is all an effort to interfere with his congressional investigation of corruption by the Clinton campaign or at least in retaliation

of that investigation because again, he has no power now. So, haha, I'm a turd. Yeah, such a turd. So a lot of Nunez turd stuff. He's just so annoying, it won't go now. So, haha. I'm a turd. Yeah, such a turd. So, a lot of Nunez turd stuff. He's just so annoying, it won't go away. That's true. He won't go away. He's like, the herpes of Congress. Just keeps coming back.

Just keeps popping up. Yeah, so true. And there's no Valtrex for Nunez. No, no. No. I wish I would take that pill every day. Nunez, Kryptonite. Yeah.

Thank you, Jordan. I'm happy to. Yes, excellent reporting. All right, you, Jordan. You're welcome. Yes. Excellent reporting. All right, guys. This week, I wanted to do a segment called Mueller, if you're listening, where I go over all the things,

our listeners and myself, and you guys, Jordan and Julie. So you guys want to ask Mueller. You want to ask Mueller these questions. So if anybody knows Mueller, or anybody who hangs out with Mueller, is married, maybe married to Mueller, please play this segment for him or her. And someone get it to Congress too. So when Mueller testifies, they'll know what questions they need to ask as well.

So Mueller, if you're listening, here we go. Number one, why didn't you make a call on obstruction of justice and did you expect bar to make the call? And this is an important question because we all wanna know whether it was, you know, procedural that he didn't call obstruction of justice or if he really just didn't have enough evidence. Right, like was it because of the restraints of the law?

Or is it because of Bar? Well, policy. Yeah, being a piece of shit. Here's what I think, here's my beans to that. I think that he had an answer on obstruction of justice. If he didn't, he would have had to interview Trump because you have to get to intent, but maybe he had such overwhelming evidence he didn't need to get that interview. But the Department of Justice does not allow you to bring criminal charges for obstruction

of justice. And in the past, there is precedent that shows that the special counsel or special investigator or special prosecutor, whatever you call them at that point, would hand that shows that that the special counsel or special investigator or special prosecutor whatever you call them at that point would hand that kick that question over to Congress because you can't indict a sitting president because of DOJ policy and we know Mueller probably follows rules so yeah and that means hopefully when Trump's no longer president which will happen that those somebody will you know arrest him after the arms. That'd be nice. Yeah, if it's really just about him being president and not being able to get him while he's in office, then yeah, I can't wait for when he's not. Yeah, but I don't know if you could get him for obstruction of justice.

I absolutely don't. I don't know. Yeah. It's weird. Everything's weird because he's the president. All right, number two, can you define the specifics of the scope of your investigation? And the reason I want to know this question

is because Barr's bullshit letter said, there was no collusion or coordination with Russian members of the Russian government during the election about hacking the DNC and the D triple C like that's a super defined pretty niche. Yeah. But was the scope broader when I read the report that we get from Barr, whatever it fucking looks like, with his color-coded bullshit, Lisa Frank office supply store weirdness. I want to be, I want to make sure that I know what the scope was of his investigation, because if it was really narrow and he handed everything else off, I wouldn't expect to find the answer in the report. Right.

On number three, what happened with the half percent Ross and F. Sale commission brokered by the cutter investment authority? Where'd that go? It's like $280 million. I'm curious. I know you found it. I know you found it, buddy. Where is it? Where'd it go? That answer will be, I'm sorry, that's part of an open and ongoing investigation. For now. Yeah, it'll be over at some point though. It will. And, you know, be honest, let's be honest. When he testifies 90% of what he's going to say as part of an ongoing investigation, can't tell you, oh, that would reveal sources of methods, can't tell you. Nope, can't tell you that either. So just be prepared for that.

And I know you'll be mad, but don't be because he's protecting his children. There's other investigations. Yeah, his muller babies. All right, number four. You charged Cohen with line to Congress about when the Trump Tower Moscow deal ended. We know from public reporting that Felix Seder and Don Jr testified to Congress about this as well. Can you tell us why they were not charged with the same offense?

I like that question. Yeah, me too. Mark Hurley on Twitter asked, what did you find out about the Alpha Bank server and the Betsy DeVoslinked Pharmaceutical Company server communicating with the server and Trump tower? Remember that weird one? That's a weird thing. All right, number six. On Tuesday, March 19, you filed for an April 1st extension to respond to the request to

release the Manafort pleading documents. But then, after your report was released to the attorney general, you had asked for another extension to April 15th. Did you know at the time that you filed the first extension that your investigation was going to end three days later? And if so, why did you ask? Why didn't you ask for more time? If you knew that that transition was coming. Number seven, Bill Barr testified that you declined to review his four-page letter prior to him releasing it. And he said he doesn't recall why you chose not to. Can you tell us why you declined to review that memo? Thank you. Number eight, do you know why Bill Barr consulted the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel before deciding to make a

call on obstruction of justice. Why did he talk to Engel? Basically, Engel's the guy pretty much that he except that 20-page obstruction sucks, memo, too. And how to meeting three weeks later, and then bam, was Attorney General six months later. Let's see, number nine, are you able to request that the grand jury material be released to the House Judiciary Committee and will you make that request? And then number 10, why didn't you interview Trump on the obstruction question? And as I said, my beans and these are super space beans is that he didn't need to because he had enough evidence

but he can't indict because that's the Department of Justice policy. So he was putting it over to Congress and he wasn't expecting Bar to make the call. That's just my thought. But I want him to say it, say it, tell me. Number 11, did you conduct a counterintelligence investigation into Trump, Russia, and are those findings included in your report? Number 12, Cole 63074 asks, did you intend for the front matter summaries to be released to the public?

Those are the summaries that were ready to go, quote unquote, that his team wrote for each section of the report Number 13 will we get to see Trump's written responses to your questions? Please Are they handwritten? I which want to see what he looks at I just want to see him Number 14 John Gerber asks if the polling data Manafort gave to Kalimnik Focused on polls in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin,

and Pennsylvania, or did the data indicate that those were places of interest? That was a good question. Thanks, John Gerber. Number 15, Jim Jim 31 asks, did bar or widiker prevent you from issuing any indictments? I think the answers know, but that came from a Department of Justice person, and it was the same Department of Justice person that said no forthcoming indictments are going to happen. And then there were, number 16, Mara Me 1988 wants to know if, as reported, your team is not pleased with the characterization of your work by bar.

Why have you remained silent about it and the follow-up are you satisfied with bar's characterization of your work? Yeah, God, I wish Mueller would talk. Talked. about it and the follow-up are you satisfied with bar's characterization of your work? Yeah, got I wish Muller would talk. Talked, and he won't. Number 17, why wasn't Rod Rosenstein a witness to the obstruction case? I gotta know that, that's mine. Number 18, RB mashup I think asked if any other campaigns were targeted by the Russians such as Jill Stein or Bernie Sanders. Number 19 is Trump compromised by any foreign actors. It's pretty basic. And number 20, finally, Justin Duff asks, will you please reimburse me for the life-size oil on canvas portrait of you that I prematurely commissioned and displayed in my living room?

So, Mueller, Justin Duff wants his money back. All right, so those are the questions. We got tons of them. Yeah, those are great. And those are the ones in order, the ones I wanted to ask, and then the ones that came up the most often amongst you guys. So thanks for sending those in. Hashtag Mueller, if you're listening.

Tag us at Mueller, she wrote. If you have any more questions, and somebody somebody if anybody knows anybody in the Congress, any of the oversight committees, judiciary, intelligence, get this to a staffer. These are some questions that I think the American people want answered. Definitely. And do us a favor this time. Would you guys coordinate what questions, who's going to ask what questions, so it's not the same fucking questions over and over again? So I was driving me pretty nuts. You guys talk to each other, alright? Thanks.

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coming soon to everywhere you get podcasts as well as YouTube. Alrighty, you guys ready for sabotage? Yeah! Alright guys, this week in sabotage, lawyers for Roger Stone, the ones who couldn't get their shit together, getting a bar sponsor in time for Arraignment, filed a series of creative motions to dismiss Mueller's case against him late Friday night, probably to avoid detection because they're so idiotic. First, he said that the charge for lying of Congress should be, lying to Congress should be dropped, because Congress never officially complained about it.

And he blamed the Democrats for drawing attention to his lies. His lawyers also said it's the Democrats fault. He also said that he's being selectively targeted because he supports President Trump pointing out that they didn't charge Corsi or Cretico, which is dumb because they both supported Trump too. Finally, this is the best part. They said the charges should be dismissed because the Mueller report found no evidence of collusion

and it's unconstitutional for the Justice Department to investigate a president. He's not only asked for the full Mueller report, he wants a copy of the full report, but he wants a different judge too, saying that because there was no collusion per attorney general bar, his case shouldn't be related to the Russian indictments filed last year by Mueller, even though he's named in them.

He tried that one once before, and it was soundly rejected. So I have all the beans on all of these motions being totally denied, and it's going to be hilarious. Yeah, definitely. God. These are all been submitted to Berman Jackson, by the way. Oh, good. I'm excited to see how she just digs into him verbally.

That would be great. I can't wait for the response. I really can't. Yeah, those are all, uh, those are all awful. Kind of creative though. Like, hey, I can't charge me with line to Congress. Nobody complained. Yeah. Yeah. Well, is he also saying like charge credit code, of course, he'd make it fair? Oh, he was saying that he was being selectively targeted because of course, and credit code were not. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like, is his, would he be happy if they got charged? She didn't say that. Would that make it better? He didn't say that, but I was almost like, give it a minute, bro. Yeah, seriously. And also him thinking he would get any sort of protection that a president gets. That's kind of how he makes it sound.

And I mean, we have the Miller thing that's still on hold, that's still on ice, right? Because he was battling that subpoena. And then of course, of course, he was offered a plea agreement and didn't take it. And we can still expect, I think, of course, and probably not, credit go, but of course, see and Miller to be indicted by the District Court in DC, especially now that Zelensky's there who was on Mueller's team. So just, hey, just chill, bro.

They'll get some. Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. No more future indictments. Yeah, okay, from Mueller's office specifically for Mueller the man, maybe not maybe not but his babies there's I think there's gonna be more all right guys you ready for the fantasy indictment league yes I'm gonna be a dick

and I'm gonna be okay just calm down I can't come down I'm gonna be a son all right wow guys we had three indictments this week, two count towards the fantasy indictment league. First, the one that doesn't count, that's Michael Avanotti. He was indicted on 36 counts of fraud, embezzlement, and a host of other white collar crimes. In Los Angeles this week, Santa Ana,

for stealing money from his clients and using it for shit like paying debt on his businesses and buying private jets. One of his clients was a paraplegic man who won a settlement against LA County. And he stole like $4 million from that guy. So fucked up. Abinade is also being investigated for extorting Nike by New York, but no charges have been filed there yet.

Yet, all told, he faces almost 400 years in prison. And that's the max, of course, and if everything goes consecutively and not concurrently. But it's still frustrating that Barr is telling us Mueller is done and all these assholes have gotten up with little to no jail time for selling out America. And there's just something rotten in Denmark when Trump, a Trump critic faces 400 years and Trump's buddies get off with probation. But I still have faith that these open and ongoing investigations will produce some fruit and we won't feel as ripped off.

We just have to wait. Yeah, maybe they're thinking that since capitalism is like such a big part of America, that there's nothing more American than selling out America. Yeah. Like it's the ultimate capitalistic thing to do. I guess. I'm just being real on brand here. Yeah.

Just hustling, baby. Mmm. Just hustling. Oh gosh. All right, well then we had the indictment and arrest of Julian Assange to which a bunch of Guy Fox mask wearing dill holes with imaginary girlfriends responded by insinuating that now all journalists will suffer. Sorry for my characterization there, but I'm a little angry at these guys.

I have a Guy Fox mask. Oh yeah, I'm a big fan of you for Vendetta, but I see where you're coming from. I smoked two go through at once and I never felt like more of a badass. That's so funny. It was so self-indulgent and ridiculous. You haven't done video somewhere, we have to share that on the show. Where to put that out? It was a college thing.

You do? I do. We need to put that on a newsletter. Yeah, we really do. You're a patron and you want to see her smoke a houga through a fox mask. Yeah, please track that out. I want to see it. But it could just be any old person. There's no way to know.

Well, I mean, you're just wearing a mask. Yeah, but you just said you did it. Yeah. Fuck. What are their ginger like smoking a houga? We could always set it up. Anyway, this has first of all, this arrest has nothing to do with the first amendment. Don't worry, I promise.

Assange was arrested for skipping bail on rape charges. He's indicted in the US for hacking in 2010 Nothing to do with releasing the hacked Russian materials in 2016 and if the US wants to charge him for espionage in that case They'll have to do it before he's extradited Per the treaty the extradition treaty we have with the UK since the US has the death penalty We signed a treaty with the UK saying we would tell them all the charges we planned to bring before they send anybody over because they don't want to inadvertently give us somebody the death penalty. However, he can be charged after being extradited if he keeps climbing once he's here. So if prosecutors ask him about his contacts in the Trump campaign and he lies to them,

he can be charged for that. That's the only reason I can figure they indited him for the 2010 charges in the first place other than he also broke the law. But they were going back and forth on that. I think Muller was in charge of the FBI when this happened and he didn't bring to it, want to indict or did he decided not to indict a sange. But they did this in March of 2018,

four days before the statute of limitations was up. They dropped and sealed this indictment and that just seems like a placeholder to me to maybe once he's kicked out of the embassy, get him over here and question him at least, maybe they didn't get some leads out of him. Totally. But I don't think this is to prosecute first amendment whistleblowers. This is really to try to find out what happened in the 2016 election. But we'll see.

I could be wrong. I'll eat my words if I am. I'll smoke a hook out out of a guy fox man. If it comes to that. That's so funny. I wanted to happen. I'm going to hold you. And finally, guys, today, as if the Mueller gods were

reaching down to say, we're not done my child. Lobbyist Greg Craig was indicted this week for fair of violations, making liars out of anyone who says there are no forthcoming indictments in the Mueller probe. Which I guess is true if you're saying that the office of special counsel will not be issuing the indictments, but it's clear that there are more indictments that have stemmed from Mueller's spawn. Which means there could be more yet to come.

Greg Craig is a former Obama White House counsel, turned lobbyist for Manafort in Ukraine. And Friday he pleaded not guilty on all charges. And don't forget, Von Greck, as we before one of muller's former team members now runs a fairer unit main justice and at the very least i think we will be taking a closer look into foreign lobbying from now on one of the positive side effects from the muller probe to limit foreign influence in our politics absolutely

so give yourself a point if you had great cragg to points if you had a song i think he's worth two points i'm gonna make a song, I think he's worth two points. I'm going to make him worth two points of his not two points. Boom. I've decided. And I've decided to count him until we find he out. He's not going to be charged at all in connection with his work or the Trump campaign in 2016. Yeah, because some people are wondering about that. Yeah, I think counts. All right. Now on to the actual draft. Julia, so you get to pick first this week. Do you have a pen? Do you have everything to write down stuff? Yes, I've got it. So I'm going to go with Corsi. Oh. Interesting. Jackson's like, you're right. Stone? Let me get those too. I guess that's not how law works. Judges don't, you know what I mean? Anyways, is it my turn? Okay, wiggy leaks.

Anyways, is it my turn? Okay, wiki leaks. All right. Nice. Nice. I'm gonna go with the sange, superseding. Before he's extra-dited to follow the rules. Cool. I'll do Miller.

Oh, Andrew Miller. Yes, yes. Stone associate, stone hanger. Mm-hmm. Ivanka. Good, I hear. I'm gonna go Tony Podesta, the other lobbyist that was mentioned from Scad and Arps, Merrick, Vogue and Flawm.

Scad and Arps, Mer, Net, Flawm. I know Flawm's a bad ass. Definitely got a Flawm down. Yeah, I got Flawm. I will go with Weiselberg. Good. Okay. Good one.

I'm gonna go Tony Fabrizio. Don't. I'm gonna go Tony Fibritzio. Don't eat. I'm just waiting on that guy. I know. I'm selecting Pecker. Sherry Dylan. Good. All right.

I hope she gets it. Um, am I? Nice. I'm gonna go with that Brittany Kaiser person. Um, now that they've got a Sange. Mm-hmm. And Patton, all of the shit he helped with, he's Cambridge Analytica tied in. Yeah, Kaiser's good. I'll do Trump org. Oh Yes, Trump and I girl Fucker Last pick, a G dammit. That was all my dudes

There's plenty crime to go around Felix later. Okay. Oh shit. Yes Those are those are good. I like those picks. Thanks, man. Yeah. Yeah. Is that it? We done. That's it. Yeah, really? Hell yeah, yeah 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5. Yeah, we're all right All right, cool. Well, we'll be right back with the interview with Scott's Edmund Code names deception gadgets it might sound like something out of the movies But these are just some of the essential components of being a spy, real cloak and dagger stuff.

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Yang. She's the founder of the Orchid Day Spot, a favorite spot for Republicans. And an investment opportunity, she was selling, basically. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, sure. So Cindy Yang, like you said, she's the owner of the chain of massage parlors that was busted for prostitution, possible human trafficking. She was also selling access to Trump, as you guys have covered on the pod a little bit before.

So the story I broke last week was a second company that she was involved with. last week was a second company that she was involved with that was actually selling opportunities for Chinese nationals to invest in the Trump government in Trump government projects. It was like really weird coded language but this was the first sign. We knew she was selling access to Trump and his family at Mar-a-Lago a lot, but this was the first sign that she's actually trying to steer foreign money into some sort of government project for the Trump admin. Wow. Now, is this anything like, or can we draw any parallels between this and like what Cohen was doing with the essential consulting where he was basically taking millions of dollars from like AT&T and Novartis and I think an aerospace company in Korea and in exchange

for access to the president. Is that kind of what this looks like? Yeah, that's certainly what her other business looks like. Just pooling money together from Chinese nationals, paying enough to go to a Trump event and getting to the tier of taking a picture with Trump. So you pool a bunch of money together. Some events are like 25 grand, 50 grand. And you get a picture with Trump and then you use that to sell your people on your proximity to the president.

Yeah, we were even finding out some reporting that allegedly the payments weren't we're not coming from the ones posing for these photos but elsewhere which is interesting because that seems a lot like a straw donor situation but and then of course we also have this other Chinese women with multiple passports and sim cards and phones and cash basically walking into Mar-a-Lago without a bathing suit trying to find the pool. Apparently she was supposed to go to an event that was canceled, but it was an event that was apparently set up by Cindy Yang.

Yeah, it was definitely a Cindy Yang event that got canceled a couple weeks prior to that woman showing up. The theory is that she just didn't get prior to that woman showing up. The theory is that she just didn't get the notice that it was canceled. But yeah, the money part of this is super interesting. And something that I heard today was that authorities are actually really looking into her donations to the Trump victory pack, especially in regards to her listed employer. There's a few instances where she donated to Trump and listed a company that doesn't seem to exist in the United States.

So there's possibly some fraudulent activity as to who she represented herself as when she gave all this money. Yeah, and the reporting that I'm interested in, which I haven't seen any of yet, is what, uh, where the money went. And it seems like it could be this victory pack because, you know, we know a lot of, uh, these foreign donations have come in either through the NRA or through the RNC because we know Cohen, uh, was the deputy finance chair of the RNC and then Brody was the deputy finance chair of the RNC, and then Broidy was the deputy finance chair

of the RNC, and he was apparently kind of doing the same thing, but with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. So, this is all very interesting reporting, and I know that these are parts of current and open and ongoing investigations. I think my only concern now is that we've got seemingly, and I don't know this could just be a feeling I'm having but we've seemed to have an attorney general who might be interested in covering that kind of thing up for the president. Exactly. I mean if you take all this together

you take the woman that was caught with hidden camera detecting devices and malware on a USB and our logo going to a Cindy Yang event it certainly looks from the outsider's point of view, like an intelligence operation that got as close as you possibly can to the most powerful man in the world. Yeah. So now we've got the Middle East, multiple countries there. We've got Israel and now, of course, Russia was always there now China. But we've always been kind of dicking around with China with the whole Kushner thing and on-going bank.

That's also another interesting thing. Kushner was running that the visa scam. Like pay money and you can get a visa for Chinese nationals. His sister went to an event in China. This was like early in the Trump admin. I think it was like April 2017 and was basically vlogging those visas and using pictures of Kushner to say like, hey, we're close to the president. And Cindy Yang was doing the exact same thing. So I'm kind of

looking for links between the Kushner situation and Yang, but they're not there at this point, but it's a really intriguing point of this. Yeah. And then of course you have Ivanka getting awarded all these trademarks in China as well. One last thing on the China thing, go back to the dossier, man, the dossier says Trump is fine. There was a source telling Chris Steele, Trump is fine having Russia as the boogie man because his dealings with China and other developing countries were so much

more corrupt and blatant. So, you know, if you believe Chris Steele, which I certainly do for the most part, then that's, it's certainly an area that hasn't really been explored and finally starting to come to the light. Yeah, no, and I remember it wasn't just steel, but, well, I guess it was steel by proxy because Glenn Simpson in Fusion GPS and his transcripts had wrought out up as well. Yeah, and they could have had more info for all we know. Yeah, all right. So, let's shift gears a little bit. You seem to be a favorite target of George,

George, Papadopolis and Simone and Simone, and Angie, on Tay. They keep tweeting at you. They won't leave you alone. I think they're obsessed. What's going on? I mean, it kills time. I mean, most of the tweets and emails now to me are just like, fucking hilarious. Like I just burst up laughing because they're just so ridiculous. Like come on. The most recent one, like an hour ago, as I was making notes to come on here, George, he called me a fraud on Twitter and my book sales shot way up on Amazon. So thank you. I appreciate the free press to the popodopolises.

I doubt they listen to this podcast, but yeah, hi, I've got George, the Mono, if you're listening, thank you. Yeah. And finally, this isn't really Russia-related, but this is just blowing my mind this week. I haven't, I haven't a story this big hasn't hit in a while and I mean huge stories hit every day and it's crazy. But this one is bananas. And I want to get your thoughts on the absolutely insane story about us, the Stephen Miller and Trump wanting to bus migrants to sanctuary cities to punish political opponents. And whether or not you think it might be tied to the massive staffing shakeup within the Department of Homeland Security, ICE and Customs and Border Patrol this week, or in the last couple weeks, actually?

Yeah, so I kind of look at this in two ways. First, from a national security point of view, and then from how you can play this politically, that's how my brain is split into. It's national security, and it's political. So from a national security point of view, you have to look to the details of the plan, right? It looks patently ridiculous on its face and completely counter to the oath that everyone took, including Trump. Is it really getting to a point where Stephen Miller wants to see lib, you know, lib tard cities actually harmed because they, you know, opposed the president

on this issue. That alone should warrant, you know, congressional investigations and also pressure from the public. And yeah, then just from a political point of view, I see it as a total gift to the Democrats. This is where you go on the offensive, you call his bluff, you know, you say, undocumented immigrants are amazing people, and you know, they largely contribute to our society

and make the country a better place. So these liberal cities, you know, call his bluff, welcome the plan and maybe even do something like offer assistance to get these people legal status. But yeah, just, I would just keep my arms wide open and say, yeah, this is great. Thanks, Trump. Yeah, and that's the question, isn't it? Because if Trump truly believes his own rhetoric and the administration believes they're

on rhetoric that these migrants that are coming up from the three mexico's you know that that are arriving at our border are actually all ms-13 gang member hardened criminal rapists does he truly believe that rhetoric and if so that means he wants to turn them a loose on the citizens of our cities, our sanctuary cities, to harm Democrats, right? Or does he know that his, that they're kind, amazing and incredible people and wonderful people and that they commit crime at a much lower rate than natural born citizens? And he's just doing this to, you know, create, you know, to actually alleviate space at the border or to create a crisis where one didn't exist in the first place. To make what he's saying true.

You can't have both. Yeah, you can't have both. By announcing this policy, again via Tweet, he really backed himself into a corner. Like you said, he either believes the bullshit that he says about immigrants and he actually wants them to harm San Francisco and LA and our cities, or he doesn't, and he's just using this to gaslight everyone and back everyone else into their their own corner. Yeah, it's pretty astounding. Either way, it's a clear, clear, clear abuse of power. I think even more so than Nixon sending the IRS after his, after Democrat, congressional

Democrats. I think we're like a hundred actions past that at this point. Right. Or when Trump pressured the postmaster general to double the Amazon shipping rates to punish Bezos. Yeah. Yeah. But Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut farm. Yes. Sacrifices. That's where we are folks. All right. Well, hey, before I let you go, can you tell us about your book that's coming out Tuesday and where everyone can get it. Yeah, so the book Real News is coming out on Tuesday the 16th. So that'll probably be within 24 hours of when people are hearing this. Yeah, you can get it pretty much anywhere. Barnes and

Noble, Amazon, Indie Bound, Walmart, Target, anywhere you would go to get a book. And yeah, pre-orders are super, super important for any author, especially first-time author like myself. So yeah, I'm very thankful for you guys that have supported the book and or are planning to get a copy. So yeah, thank you so much for having me. Yeah, of course, and hey, how crazy would it be if your book dropped the same day that the redacted muller report came out. Yeah, I planned that. It totally planned it, right?

Where else can folks find you? I think you have a premium Twitter feed or social media where else can we find you? Yeah, now I got rid of the premium feed. So basically right now I'm just on Twitter and Medium, but perhaps some exciting announcements in the coming months. I've heard tell. I won't say anything, but we're excited. I know a lot of our listeners follow you and are really excited about this book.

Hey one side question for you and and maybe this makes it into the interview or maybe it doesn't but I'm I'm just curious. What do you say to the critics who are saying that you're publishing your same book or the same publisher as Roger Stone? Yeah I mean it's it's the Louis bench clan right. I think first all, my publisher Sky Horse has been awesome. I understand, I guess I understand the criticism, but it doesn't make any sense because one of the reasons that I was attracted to Sky Horse was the fact that they do publish all points of view, and they're not picking winners. I think on their front page right now,

they have the case for impeaching Trump by a former Democratic Congresswoman and the case against impeaching Trump. So that was one of the reasons why I was drawn to them. I like the objectivity. I like hearing everyone's point of view. So if that's something you want to criticize, that's fine, but I certainly don't see it as an issue. I see it as an asset. Yeah, that's a really good point. You know, a lot of times no one, it's really difficult to navigate a lot of different things in politics, especially like if we advertise for somebody and someone emails us and says, hey

Kushner's brothers, boyfriend's, uncle's girlfriend worked there for six minutes in 1986. I'm never listening to your podcast again. Exactly. You can make, it's this, what is it? The six degrees of separation or whatever. You can do that to anyone in the world. Yes, but on the record, I'm pretty sure you don't agree with anything that Stone has to say.

Yeah, no, absolutely not. Actually, I was, here's a little story. One of the first interview opportunities I got a few months ago when the book was just announced was like going on with Roger Stone and like debating him point to point. And I was like, no, that's not the first move that I'm going to make. So you guys have a good time with that. Oh God. Yeah, no thanks. I know. I'd rather go to the dentist. Then speak to Roger Stone. I don't blame you. All right, invest a good of Journalist, 23 year old author of real news available wherever you get your books this Tuesday April 16th Scott Stedman. Thanks for being on Mueller. She wrote thanks guys. Keep up the good work

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