Jack - Mueller She Wrote Live from Boston (with Greg Olear)

Episode Date: November 11, 2019

This week's MSW episode was recorded on November 7th at our live show in Boston, MA with special guest Greg Olear.

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Road. Best Fiends for supporting Mueller She Wrote. Best Fiends is a unique and exciting puzzle experience unlike any other puzzle games out there. Best Fiends updates the games monthly with new levels and events so it never gets old. Download free on the Apple App Store or Google Play. This is Greg Oliar, the author of Dirty Rubles, and you're listening to Mueller She wrote. So to be clear Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously what the opposition is.

I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn't have and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for? I have nothing to do with Putin. I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So, it is political. You're a communist!

No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red ha to introduce Marci Rose, and here's your host, A.G. Thank you! Hey! Hi! I am your host, A.G. Thank you! Hey! Hi! I am your host, A.G. I couldn't come here and not play the dropkick Murphy's. I couldn't do it. Union Fellows.

I like those guys. How are you? Thank you for dealing with Mike Pence traffic to be here. The fuck is he here right now? Go home. Thank you for dealing with Mike Pence traffic to be here. The fuck is he here right now? Go home. Is he here? Is he here? Is he here with mother?

What a dick. I guess he was here signing up like he put in his name on the ballot with Trump in New Hampshire. Right? Why? I don't... Let's drive around Boston for a while. The traffic's great. They won't mind.

They love me there. Amalania was here? I'm sorry. me there. Amalania was here? I'm sorry. Being best? Was she here being best? What? Like, I love that everyone at the hospital was protesting.

Because... that everyone in the hospital was protesting. Because that... Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! It's apparently she was there to take picture of what small babies that are sick. The fuck out, Natasha. Oh! I just don't like her at all.

I hope she's gone. Maybe that's why Pencil's here, like to rescue her from all of the terrible angry protesters that make her life so hard. I am so excited to be here. This is my first time in Boston, and I love your city. Woo! Woo!

Woo! It's absolutely fantastic. I'm having a great time this week watching the trial of the Baba Duke. Riders' Stone. He looks like the Boba Duke. And I think the Boba Duke is like the representation of grief walking. So that's him. Really, if you think about it, that's fun. That's a fun. We've been waiting for years for that trial, and it is not disappointing. He had the poops the first day.

Which should have been the shot in Florida now that I think about it. Ha, dick. Probably because the EPA is all closed down and the FDA doesn't work, so he got all sorts of food poisoning because that was the USDA, they moved from DC to Kansas City to get them to quit their jobs and Roger Stone got the poops. So that's what you get. And we're impeaching the president. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Which is fantastic. I love that Nancy Pelosi felt she had to announce it, and I think it's funny that they had to go and have a vote because the Republicans were still like, no! It's only impeachment if it comes from the impeachment region of France. And I think impeachment started when Nadler and the judiciary filed for the grand jury

materials in the Mueller case, which is now scheduled to start oral arguments next week. But when he filed that, he was like, yeah, we're doing this because of article one, powers of the Constitution. And I was like, oh, we're doing this because of Article 1, power is the Constitution. And I was like, oh, we're impeaching him. Fuck yeah, we weren't Chicago's July. And everyone's like, no, not yet. I was like, but it's the, okay. Everybody's very cautious.

Nobody wants to get too excited. But that is not why we're here. We're here to be excited about the fact that he's being impeached, about the fact that Roger Stone is going to go to prison for, you know, probably nine days. But I mean, it's better than nothing. So I'm so glad you're here tonight for Mollishie Road Live. And now I would like to bring out for you with me today Jordan Coburn and Amanda Reader. On the back of Trump's free, Sump of the crack, C'mon, don't need to speed on man's eye.

D-I-U-T-G-I-E-M-O-P-M-O-L-E-L-F-E Huh? Huh? I'm a Pokemon champion, I bring you a show. Huh? Working more, dude. Is this?

Is he up? He's a Boston dude, right? Okay. Uh, yes, just... It. It. Working. Woo! Hello. Is it working? Hi.

All right. I can hear you. Yay. Me too. Are you kidding me? So we'll talk into it. I'm talking to you guys. Yeah, you got it.

Check, check. Yeah. It works. Check one, too. Hi. How are you guys doing? Hi. Great.

Yes. We're good. We're good. We're good. Cold. Yeah. My hands are so cold. I know. I'm suffering backstage. Like, OK, I'm not in San know. I'm suffering backstage.

Oh god, I'm not in San Diego. It's so freezing. She's prepping us for this trip, and she's like, just a heads up guys. It's going to be in the 20s, and we both go, we only have yoga pants. And, um, yeah. I had a scarf for you to borrow. You did. That's all I have.

I had one scarf. Scarfs borrow. You did. It's only half of a day. I had one scarf. Scarves. Yeah. You didn't know. Just wrapped around my body like a candy cane. Just, that's all I have. You could like multi pass for the scarf. Did you know a single solitary scarf

or like winter hat or anything? Did I own one? You don't own any scarves. No. So you're a cold weather clothing. No. I have an ironic classic hat that a fan bought me. Did you bring it? No.

Ah. Takes up too much space. Yeah. The thing is like this fucking big. It's got the ear flaps. Yeah. It's beautiful. Thank you.

Wait, isn't it a Russian thing? Yes. Oh, OK. But this one because of the ear flaps and because it has plaid underneath, makes it look also half Canadian. Totally. Totally. Yeah.

It could be Moose hair on your head, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Are there long-haired Moose? Oh, maybe. No, look, I, all right, cool. Maybe, I don't think so, though. Yeah.

I don't know. Yes. Like Alpaca. Yeah. So, newest addition to Mola Shiro and the Daily Beans, Amanda Reader. Woo! Thank you for stepping up and doing this job.

It is literally the best job I've ever had in the world. Because you guys, like, I hear a hear a lot like you guys come up to us and are like this is you keep me sane. You keep me sane and I have to say 100% it is a two-way so you do the same for us. So thank you guys. Yeah thank you. Boston is also very liberal, which is nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. him and he's like, oh, what's the podcast about? And I said, the molar investigation, you know? And he goes, oh, do you think he's going to jail? And I was like, Trump? And he goes, no, molar. It's like, where are we right now? What? It was San Francisco.

And then so we get in the Uber here. And the guy asked what we do. And we're like, don't say anything. Don't say anything. We're like, oh, we just do a podcast. And he's like, look, it cool, cool. And then eventually someone made a comment about someone acting like a three-year-old. And he was like, yeah, we just do a podcast. He's like, look, he cool, cool. And then eventually someone made a comment about like someone acting like a three-year-old.

And he was like, yeah, he acts like Trump. And we're like, oh, thank Jesus. OK. All right. It's liberal here. We can talk about it. So thank you for being awesome. It's cool to be here.

You went walking this morning and saw what old church was that? Do you know? Old West Church maybe? Is that old? Sorry. I went for a walk this morning and I saw this old church that was full of like black lives matter and LGBT messages and like all of the stuff and I was exploring cities on foot as my favorite thing. But I haven't been to Boston in 10 years and I've forgotten what a great city it is. And it feels like we're around our people, which is nice, in one of the pockets of the country.

Oh, right. So ladies, have a seat. We do have a great show planned for you. I actually wrote some things. We've got corrections. We've got just the facts. I actually wrote some things. We've got corrections. We've got just the facts. We've got the fantasy. There it is. What do you got the core of the beans? For some beans on it, what kind of beans?

Thank you. That was, they might be giants. So we have a very sp... We're going to do, oh, by the way, we're going to do the fantasy indictment league. It's lit AF. These days, like Matt Gaetz. People are going down.

So I think it was Joyce Vance. She's like, oh my god, the impeachment inquiry's going to be lit this week. And I'm like, either that or Matt Gates will ha! Guys, it did. I mean, he gives drinking a bad name. I hate to make fun of people like that, but fuck that guy. Just for drinking.

There's other things wrong with him. But we have a very special guest joining us for the panel today. I've got the comfy chair here. Everyone, please welcome the author of Dirty Rubles, an introduction to Trump Russia. Super genius, the incomparableS. back in the U.S. back in the U.S. It's all on the ground. Well, the dude and the great girls really love me out.

The Ukraine girls really knock me out. George is always on my mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom. Thank you for calling me a super genius and not a stable genius, by the way. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. The horse that just won at Santa Anita Cafiffy, that's the stable genius. But we need drum kit in here. Did you say are you drum kit?

No, no. We need a boom boom. Oh, drum kit. Oh, no, no, no, no, rim shot sound effect. We can do the SVU. That was a good job. There you go. Is that good enough as a rimshot?

Yeah, it works. Don't talk. Don't talk. How are you? I am well. Drove down here from. I came here from upstate New York. And, yeah, I wrote something about Pence, and Pence

is apparently here in Boston following me, you know, as he does. Yeah, which makes me wonder if Giuliani and Rand Paul are around, because you also wrote something about them, and we'll get to that in a little bit. But I am very excited to have you here tonight, especially because of these new pieces that just came out, and the fact that you got red-paw, hashtag, red-paw trending again. LAUGHTER

People hate him so much, it's really. He actually makes Trump look tall. I think that's why he takes him out on the road with him. The picture of them, it looks like a hobbit and a half-work. I don't know. It totally does. I'm still holding the mic. I don't know why I hold on. Has it been solved yet if Trump is actually as tall as he says he is?

He is not as tall as he says he is when you put him up next to people who are known to be six foot one? Yeah, so much you just chase him around with a tape measure, like, at all times. This is the best troll. Any public appearance? Just, what is your own measurement? Surprise measurement. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Did you tell him? Did you tell him? Did you tell him? Did you tell him? We're doing great. We're doing great. All right professionals. We're professionals. So first of all, let's see. We are going to kick this show off with my new favorite segment.

Corrections! It's time to start! It's time for me to say I'm sorry! A vallager! Shut the fuck up! BOOM! BOOM! I'm so glad you guys get my references.

I don't. It's a lonely island. Yeah. Do you get the lonely island reference? Oh, wait. Was that... No. I showed it. I just sometimes like to just ask her, do you get that reference and I'm not really referencing anything?

Oh god. You're like catch me lying usually there. It's extra funny. Alright, so let's see. Lois Swaffer. Not sure that it is illegal for Republicans to out a whistleblower. Definitely wrong. Check with someone who actually knows before you correct yourself.

All right. I did. Did we check? Oh, OK. No, we're just going to leave it at that. It is not against the whistleblower protection act, unless the inspector General outs you, but it is against labor law.

There's like a labor law rule that says you can't make someone's work environment impossible to enjoy if you're a public servant. So it is illegal. It's just a hard case to prove, I think. Huh. Priscilla's still not chill, though. Oh. Was that a music before you know? Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

Round of applause for our sound guy. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Round of applause for our sound guy. The extra special rub is our sound guy. It's also the CEO of Starburn's audio. He's just kind enough to come on the rub. It's an operating soundtrack. I highly recommend having a CEO as your assistant. Everything gets done. it's amazing.

Priscilla Dolls says Charlotte's web is more than an animated movie, it's a novel written by E.B. White in 1952. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. You have no wonder, like, do you listen to me at all? Like, I get it though, maybe she honestly thought I'd never knew it was a book. I don't know if I did. That's fucking awesome.

That one was for you. Carl Meyer, the term for dancing beside the car while it's idling in neutral is ghost riding the whip. Ah. Yes. The whip being the car. And I think Ghost ride in is just a comic book reference. Yay comic books.

OK. We were wondering about that the other day. What is it when you're dumb and you get out of your car and you dance and you hit a pole? That's Ghost ride in the whip. Those videos, there's always someone else accompanying that person when they're doing that, right? In the passenger seat, though.

Yeah. I don't know. Terrifying. Don't do that. Don't do that. Everyone, you the passenger seat though, yeah. I don't know. Terrifying. Don't do that. Don't do that. Everyone, you're like, yeah, no worries. We're not going to. Cameron Showalter says, Kevin and Bean on K-Rock

did Florida or Germany, not Love Line. Close though, since they are, we're on the same LA radio station. So K-Rock, I thought it was Love Line. They used to have this game called Germany or Florida, where if they would have some fucking headline like, man, sticks head and own ass, farts twice. And you have to guess if it happened in Germany or Florida. That's such a universal experience. How could you even tell? There are no educated guesses there.

And that correction came up during an episode where we were talking about how Trump is leaving New York to move to Florida. To be a Florida man. It wasn't a resident of Florida. I guess, because I don't know. I think just today, Tisch James announced, Attorney General, for New York announced

that she's finding them $2 million for their mishandling of charities in New York. She tweeted it out. She added nobody is above the law. I love that. But he can't run a charity in New York now because he's such a good perfect guy. And he gets probably taxed a lot there. He probably doesn't like that. And people there hate him. They've hated him for decades. Why do you think he's leaving New York? He's leaving New York because he needs to establish a new residence so that Ivanka can run as his vice president no

wait so gross yes because the president and the vice president can't live in the same state by law like the chain he had to move to Wyoming officially so that he could be Bush's VP. Yeah. I did not know that. I'm just guessing. I don't have like inside information here.

It's not going to happen. But that maybe it's some calculus. And seriously, the real reason is I think there's a law in Florida that prevents the government from seizing your primary residence in less it's worth more than a lot more than it would be in New York City. Yeah, but I'm so happy. So he can go to Mar-a-L a lot more than it would be in New York City.

So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it.

So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it.

So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar-a-Lago and not have it. So he can go to Mar house a rest for the rest of his life. That's cool with me. And with his shit on the bar. He has an on the bar? That's what I was fighting for. Yeah, and so we were like, okay, well the Florida man headlines are about to get really weird.

And then I started talking about the Germany or Florida game. Apparently it's Kevin and Bean, not Love Line. Okay, fine. That makes more sense because they're funny than Adam Corolla. Um, I only don't like him because he says women can't be funny. So fuck that guy. Uh, Andrew M. He says very minor correction in the Mueller memos. Jordan says Aaron Sorkin directed the social network. However, David Finch is directed the social network. Aaron Sorkin wrote the film. Yes, Fincher gonna say his fincher right? Yes Fintcher. Thanks though. Yeah, I think so. I've heard of David Fincher. I've never heard of David Fincher's

typo, but what have I heard? I fixed it. I corrected it Corrections we self-correct here. Cool An anonymous correction just to let you know, Dennis Lemieux explained it best when he said, well, icing happens when the puck come down, bang, you know, before the other guys, you know, nobody there, you know, my arm comes up and the game stops, then they start up. That was when we were trying to figure out, because you had said, well, he should go to a, was it a NASCAR game? No, a UFC game. You called it a UFC game. I'm so sorry. And I don't sports. So, we're like, where we can, Canada hockey,

right, explain icing, and none of us could. So So there you go, we got the Dennis Lemieux explanation. Dennis Cupp says, I'm a former ring announcer. That's the guy in the suit introducing fighters. Mixed Martial Arts equals football, baseball hockey. It's the name of the sport itself. UFC is one of many brands that promote it. It's a league. UFC, Belator, Strike Force, our promotion brands,

and many have exclusive deals with individual fighters to not go fight in other organizations as for fighters and their political allegiance. Most fighters I know have taken endless hits to the head which makes them rabid Trump fan. Oh no. Oh my gosh. Rebecca H says during a recent episode, Jordan mentioned something being in cement, what she really meant was concrete. I hope for like legal corrections and stuff. Cement is a fine powder and a component of concrete.

The others being water, fine aggregate, aka sand and coarse aggregate, aka about one-inch-sized rocks. To call concrete erroneously as cement is a common vernacular, but it drives all of us structural engineers and construction workers, bakers. That's so funny. Thanks, Rebecca H. Yeah. Here's to being an expert in your field and having to like that drive you bonkers, I feel you.

Yeah. That is fascinating. Yes, I know. Yes. I know. I get to see it. I get to see it. Health care.

I have a PhD in public health. That's what I've done for the last, you know, of my life many years. And somebody be like, no, you don't even know. Yeah, bra bra I know. So that's always fun. So I feel her and so I'm glad that she made that correction. Yes me too. Thank you Rebecca. This is my favorite. Joe Baker says when calling a cowardly person a pussy you are using the shortened form of puss, uh, pussiliant, which means cowardly, not vagina. Therefore, calling Mitch McConnell a pussy ass bitch is not

vagina shaming. I'm so happy to hear that. It's my favorite one. Yes. But for that to check out, there would have to be a different origin story for the pussy usage for like vaginas. Like what is the origin of that?

It might be the same thing. All right. I'll look it up. I just thought that was great. I mean, like any kind of explanation like, well, you know, and you push the glasses up, that never works for well people here. Like, no, you just can't say that anymore. And you know what, fine, if I hurt feelings,

I won't die on that hill. Dude, I will die on the dude hill. I have been told stop using the word dude, I'm not gonna do it. Wait, why? It's well, I should be a genderless. Got it, okay. Dude is a gender Okay, dude is genderless in San Diego. Yeah, it's just I think it's Sandy. You guys are like, what?

Dude, San Diego, that's always saying. I also remember learning in elementary school that dude refers to an elephant's butt hair. And I don't know, that's very hard to believe though. That's someone who was referring to a single butt hair on an elephant. I remember that urban legends pre-cougal. You remember you were like, what? Somebody got their stomach pumped from Belton John Seaman? Yeah, I guess so. What was it like to wonder things? Can't relate. We called them rumors. Yeah. Or just the millennial peanut gallery over here, just like,

trolling you. Yeah. OK. Finally, a letter from a Chad. You might hear us often to refer like a roomful of like douchebag, beer guzzling, mat Gaetz's, as like a group of chads. You might hear us say, look at all those chads. We got a letter from a chad.

And he says, I love your podcast. I flew all the way from Idaho to New York City to meet A.G. in March. It was great to meet you both. You are even more entertaining in person. I can't tell you how much I love to listen to the news with swearing. Thank you for all you do.

I also have the unfortunate experience of having the worst millennial name ever, Chad. I hate to admit it, but most Chad's deserve to be ridiculed relentlessly. Some of my fellow Chad's have ruined our name with popped polo callers, frosted hair tips, and everything ed hearty. Some are even apparently corrupt officials in the Trump administration. Trust me, I get it. So I wasn't offended when you disparage chads in your recent episode. You were preaching to the choir of chads.

One day I would like to have a shout out as the one good Chad. Mommy! Could you please make this happen? I wish I had a sound bite to point to my friends and fellow debate nerds as evidence that I can be separated from a larger group of chads. I am not a douchebag and I even suck at playing the sports. I like Amanda. I was a debate nerd in high school all four years of undergrad. I have never had to worry about being too cool for anything in my life. Thanks again from your biggest fan in Mueller junkie. One good chat. So chat, Judy, here's your shout out.

Let's talk about your last name, Chad. It's Judy. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. One good chat, everybody. Chad, Judy always says, PS, thanks for sharing. This is nice. And thanks for sharing about your father.

I appreciate listening to stories of veterans. I'm grateful for the freedoms, their service, and sacrifices that provided me. Also, Aegee, thank you for your service. I'll be thinking about you and your family this veterans Day. That was very nice. What a good chat. Is he good, Chad? So he's the hanging chat? Yeah, he's the hanging chat. Statistically, we must have a chat in the audience tonight. Where's the chat? All right, no. Really? No chats? Awesome. No chats.

Good job, Boston. Yeah. All right. Those are corrections. Thank you so much for listening. And we'll be right back. Thanks to Skillshare for supporting Mola She wrote, Skillshare is an online learning community for creators.

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Alright, welcome back everybody. Everyone's going to wonder why you laughed. So right now we have taken our segment about the news and we've turned it into a quiz show. So let's play just the facts. I'm going to ask you each questions. We used to do this thing where if you got the question wrong, I would make you wear a Magahat. But that was over two years ago.

And back then, it was funny, ha-ha. And it's gross now, right? So I can't do it anymore. We threw away the Magahat. I can't even, it's become like a symbol of hate. It's become like a KKK hood or a swasta. It's gross. It's fucking gross.

Sorry if you have one. No hat shaming. We should have a apologized segment for everyone we shamed in a week. Amanda, the first question belongs to you. Who is planning to roll out a report on the oranges? Are not at all corrupt Attorney General William Barr? Yes.

Bill Barr is planning to roll out a report on the origins of the Russian investigation by Thanksgiving? OK. No one asked. Yes, Attorney General Barr, he's been traveling the globe, looking for ways to discredit the oranges of the Muller probe. He's been to Australia to try to get them to

say Alexander Downer somehow made up the story about Papadopolis. He's been to Italy to try to connect Mifsood to US intelligence by way of Italian intelligence, but Italy said, no, Bra. He didn't work for us. Does Mifso, has anyone heard from Miff's, so still? Uh-huh. No, they've showed some depositions in Italy from last year, I think, that they weren't current, and so I think he's still missing. Cr-mm. Cr-mm. Anyone know where he is? I'm auditing his class, isn't he a professor? Yeah, you're auditing his class.

He's a professor of mystery. Uh-mm. No, so, Bar, and then Bar went to the UK to try to do who knows what the fuck. But the UK intelligence officials were like, it's nothing like we've ever seen. He's basically asking us robustly to help him discredit his own intelligence agencies. It's bananas. And also parallel to this investigation that he's doing, the Inspector General is conducting a separate investigation into the origins of Russia, the Russian investigation. The IGE, the Inspector General of the Department of Justice

is Horowitz, and we've already got information that he interviewed Kristil and found him to be extremely credible and fascinating. And he's like, whoa, you should have heard what he told me. And then we're like, what? He's like, I'll tell you later. And so we don't know. But that hasn't come out yet.

It was supposed to come out in September. Then they rolled it to October. Now it's November. It sounds to me like it's being held back because it looks bad for Trump. Much like how we haven't seen the Inspector General report into the New York FBI field office with regards to the Hillary emails and the Weiner laptop.

That was due out last year. We still haven't seen that. I don't think Barr has anything. I think, so I'm just very interested to see what he releases around Thanksgiving. Whatever it is, Trump must think it's good enough to keep Barr around after Barr refused to hold a press conference announcing there was nothing wrong with the Zelensky call. Can you believe he fucking asked Barr? I need you to go out on television and tell everyone that I'm awesome.

I think when they finish the report as a punishment to Nunez who brings such a shitster, they should make him publicly read the whole thing. Because he's like one of the biggest proponents of this turning out to be a lot of corrupt stuff, right? So it would only be right. Yeah, so I'm just, I'm like, I have to wonder. I don't think he has anything. I think he's very frustrated, Barr. So what could he possibly, the Inspector General is like,

I'll put out, I'm done. Everything looks good. And Barr is like, no, shh, keep it. What's happening? What's going on? I guess it's one of those things like where, you know, they can selectively edit video to make anybody say anything. Maybe they can selectively edit transcripts

from these interviews with these agencies to make it appear that, who the hell knows? I don't know what he's up to. I'm actually surprised that he didn't go on TV and say that Trump was innocent. Well, he did release that thing that said that they weren't going to do an investigation into the call and that there was no federal, criminal, legal liability as far as campaign finance violations rules went, right?

He did say that, like this narrow of a thing was not wrong and we're not going to investigate anyway because we don't think anything's a matter with it i think that's as far as he was willing to go and trump wanted to go further and he wouldn't do it and normally trump would get pissed about this kind of thing and normally bar would do it so that's the other thing i mean bar is the cover-up guy and has been for years and years and years but i think and don't be wrong, this guy's an asshole, and he's very corrupt.

But I think as soon as the call came out and he was named several times in the call, and Trump's like, oh, just get with my attorney general and just starts telling everybody what he's doing and what he's up to and got dragged into it. I think Bar got pissed. I think he got upset. And so this is kind of like what's happening

with John Bolton, like when two assholes get mad at each other, you're just like just beat the shit out of each other in front of me. That'd be great. And I think that that's kind of what's low-key going on. It's like when they tattle tag on Twitter like I'll write something about Rand Paul and somebody will all tap at Rand Paul. It's like that. Trump added Bill Barr in the Zelensky call thing. He did. Just to make him aware of, just to bring him into it. He did. And bars like, dude, sub-tweet me on this.

And he's like, no. I am having a hot flash. I got a new. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha.

Ha-ha-ha. Suttled tea is my specialty. Do you really think bar is a never flipper? Like he will never flip on Trump? Because it seems like he cares more about being in a position of power than he would care about Trump specifically. So if he flips, he can conceivably have an entire career ruined maybe. I don't know. For- I think it's too late. I think it's already past the time that Rick burned the kids in Game of Thrones. They burned kids.

Remember when Greyjoy burned the children? What? I can't go back now. I'm too big of an asshole. I burned children. And that was it. I think Bar burnt the kids already. Oh, God. Yeah. Point of no return. They're going to take a clip of you saying that and say that this is what the liberal news

media does. Say that bar burn children. That's great. Great question number two. What top pants aid testified today in the impeachment inquiry. Jennifer Williams? Yes, you got it. Jennifer Williams, she's a career diplomat on loan to PENSE's team.

She is not a Trump appointee, so she agreed to testify today. And in early reporting, we were hearing that she told investigators that she was during her testimony today, she told investigators she was on the call and she found the call to be unusual because it was political in nature. She did not raise concerns about the call with her superiors. She also testified she never heard Pence mention anything about investigations into the 2016 election, Burisma or the Biden's, nor did she know of any request from Trump to Pence to bring up investigations during the meeting he had in Warsaw with Zelenski. That's what she testified to today.

I don't believe her. She made notes of the call in her nightly notes because she was on the call, she made the notes, and she said she made those notes to get her nightly notes that she gave to Pence, but she doesn't know if Pence read them. She also had limited information about why military aid was being withheld from Ukraine.

She was puzzled by it, but she said she was kept in the dark about the decision making process. Cept in the dark is interesting. That could come in handy later. She said she stayed in her lane and she wasn't pushing to understand why aid was withheld. She did suggest that she thought withholding the aid could be tied to what she heard on the call. So she seems like useless witness. I don't think we'll see her in public.

Probably not a very good employee either. No, I don't know. I never heard anything. I don't write anything down. I wrote them. Maybe he read it. Yeah. What are night notes?

It seems like those are things you should take sooner than night. Right. Yeah, what are night notes? It seems like those are things you should take sooner than night Right like let me write down the details of the day at the very end before I fall I imagine there's like a like a moon with some bats Yeah, you use this in the night part or something. Yeah So how Well, we're gonna talk about pens a little bit later in the show. And I'm going to ask you because I don't understand how he's stayed so insulated from everything because he is, I don't see how he could have not known anything about this or Russia, yet that seems to be what everyone thinks and it's just odd to me.

So we'll get to that in a second because you just did a whole piece, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jordan, we recently got a massive dump of 302s, which are reports written up from FBI interviews from the Mueller investigation, including interviews with Gates, Bannon and Cohen. They were released as part of a Freedom of Information Act request filed by two media outlets, name one of them. Buzzfeed. Yes, Buzzfeed. Yay! Go Buzzfeed. Congratulations to Buzzfeed and CNN. Seriously. Bad ass. Getting the underlying Mueller materials before Congress did. And then my favorite fucking part is they hand over all

these 302s and then the FBI tweets them out. Here you go. Well, I just want to tweet the rest of those out. Assholes? I hope I'm should dicks. Like they could do it anytime. So, yes, BuzzFeed, Jason Leopold, and the other FOIA requests came from CNN. We learned a lot from these dumps. Most importantly, we learned the idea

that Ukraine was involved in the 2016 election interference in a complex triple cross operation with the Democrats to frame Russia. Did you know that? Well, that is actually a conspiracy theory that's going on right now. You know, that's what Trump's trying to push. It's one of the things Trump was trying to trade military aid and a White House Visit 4 was to get Ukraine to say the Democrats were working with Ukraine to frame the Russians and it was actually them the Democrats in Ukraine that somehow the Russians and it was actually them the democrats in Ukraine that somehow hacked themselves and

in a triple cross well the republicans fucked themselves all the time so so this are you saying that's not true i mean the whole point of the op was to make sure that hillary clinton wasn't president that's what the Democrats wanted all along. It was for Trump to be president instead of Hillary. Hi, five Democrats. You kept Hillary at the White House. And so, so that whole thing is happening now. That's a conspiracy theory that's happening now. And

that is something that we learned in these 302s that Mana 4 has been pushing since 2016. That and they called it, they said what they called an inside job theory. That's the inside job theory. So it's been around for a while. What I personally was looking for in this dump was the Gates testimony because he said that Trump had four knowledge of the WikiLeaks dump after he told Muller in his written answers

that he had no four knowledge of the WikiLeaks dump after he told Muller in his written answers that he had no foreign knowledge of the WikiLeaks dump. Of course, Stone's name is redacted in these 302s. I should say I don't know whose name is behind that, it's Stone. But the Grand Jury Materials case is now stuck in appeals, but we have the Roger Stone trial happening right now, and we may see that evidence come out in that trial. So that would be fantastic. Amanda, who appeared in a 60 minutes interview before being deported to Russia? Maria Bhutna.

Oh, I haven't watched that yet. It's from when she was still serving time too, so it's extra sad Is she wearing a jumpsuit in the interview? Yes, oh yeah, yeah They didn't even let her put on a sweater vest, dude. She's got it like tucked in sort of tied up around her waist sort of belted A little bit like orange is new black Yes, we're out up in the sleeves Nice make it cute rough. Yeah, it is. Not really, she deserves it.

What do you want to know? She does. Does she not? Right? Are we all in accordance on that? Right? OK, cool. OK, it's like my alone here.

She got it. Cool. So Jordan, tell us about how that is. Yes. Yes. So it's very on-brand with everything that she was saying before, during, and after her sendencing, which is, it's the same question that she's always been getting, and she's saying the same thing,

which is I was not a spy. I was merely engaging in social networking, she says, which is a weird way to go about it, as she was doing that. I think the, my favorite part of the interview though was People's reactions to it. There was a man named John Demers the assistant attorney general for national security Said that Bhutanas interview is 60 minutes was a master piece of disinformation and he said when she he's talking to the reporter He says when she was talking to you in your interview her audience wasn't the american people it was Vladimir Putin and all the people in russia who are going to decide her fate

when she goes back there so i think that that's pretty on point and that matches the tone of the interview it's it's very like not substantive basically for anyone that's been following this it's the same thing there's really nothing new in it yeah and did you see when she landed she got a giant bouquet of flowers uh... in russia and she walked out to the crowds and she's had flat yeah one of the uh... one of the things she said was i never saw to influence your policies i came here on my own because i wanted to learn from the united states

and go back to russia to make russia better yeah the United States and go back to Russia to make Russia better. Yeah, apparently she thought guns were the way to do that. And it's like maybe she should have brought back the first amendment instead of the second to their country. That would have been a better thing to do. Wrong amendment.

Yeah, wrong amendment. Very good. All right let's see Greg which judge just ruled the Mueller-Granjury materials must be handed over to Congress. You're gonna have to tell me because you wrote it here and then you told me that this was wrong. I can't remember. So you don't know that? I'll know when you tell me. Okay. Yeah. It's Judge Barrel Howe. Barrel. Barrel.

Yeah. And she's a badass. She's a patriot. She's a judge. She's a wonderful, wonderful human. I love Barrel Howe. She ruled, basically. She said, yeah.

I was going to say, Marryl Street. Marryl Street. Judge Marryl Street. Yeah. Which is kind of what Tray Gowdy looks like these days. That's so offensive to Meryl Streep. Yeah, I should say Meryl Streep and Death Becomes her.

So, Barrel Howe ruled that DOJ has to hand over the Grand Jerome materials. She's like, you're dumb for not, do it now, and do it fast. And so she said she gave him to October 30th the Department of Justice to hand over the Mueller stuff. Immediately, Trump filed for a emergency stay or the Department of Justice, the administration filed for an emergency stay, and an appeal.

And I was confused because what happened was the, Barrel Howell, well, it was a weird series of events because the appellate court put out of things and we need a temporary hold on the stay so we can read this and figure out how full a shit you are. And they gave it, they gave them until November 5th to file replies. And then Judge barrel held denied the stay. And so I was like, what's going on? And then I found out that they filed two motions, one with Barrel Howe and one with the appellate court to stay for an emergency stay. Judge Barrel Howe then denied the stay.

And they're because there's like a four-pronged test. I call it the four burdens, which is my own language. And many lawyers have said, don't do that. But you have to prove that first of all, that you could win on the merits, and that it would do a reputable harm if this stuff was released. Those are the two critical things. And then you have to do something

about public interest, there has to be public interest. And you have to make sure that it doesn't harm the other party who wants the stuff. And so she went through all four things. We did it the day before, and I'm like, I don't see how this meets any of these criteria. And Barrel House said, you know what, A.G., you're right. And she said, your merits are shit. And there's no harm to you because of Grand Jury, Secret Seals in Congress.

And those are the two critical ones. And she says, honestly, your merits are so bad that that should blow the entire motion right there. But if you want, I'll tell you why the other three things suck too. So she did. And she denied the stay. And I think that that was really a good idea that she did it so quickly, because now the appellate court

can look at that, because they're still considering this day. However, now they have said that they have scheduled arguments for the actual appeal and it's next week. It's going so fast and they just figured that out today. So I'm really excited about that. And Department of Justice has said that both sides have said we need to change it to the 13th and the 14th because of some scheduling conflicts. So we get oral arguments on the 13th and the 14th. And we have public hearings in the impeachment starting on November 13th.

And your birthday is November 13th. Right, yeah. And your birthday is November 13th. And so November 13th, it's gonna be a day. It was also the day that Oscar Madison got, or Felix Unger got thrown out of his apartment by his wife and went to live with Oscar Madison. On November 13th, Oscar Madison, it's, yeah.

For once a reference, I'm too young for. Oh! Oh! At least I know who they are. Alright. So, I don't know. I hope that they get the grand jury materials, but they seem to be like really fast tracking this, yes? They seem to really be fast tracking this impeachment.

I think they want to do it by Christmas. I think they should hold off till January, February, so that they can get these grand jury materials. But I don't know if they think that they need them. I've been reading the transcripts. I think that it's pretty damning evidence. And it's all impeachable. It's called bribery and extortion.

And we should use that language, by the way, instead of Quid Pro Quo. I think Quid Pro Quo is a purposeful, they were utilizing that purposefully to confuse its, you know, their base. It's reflexive control. It's the same thing they did with the word collusion. And it's just, it's bribery, it's fucking bribery. It's goddamn extortion. You should use the expletives.

bribery with our money though. Yeah. Not even with his own money. Yeah. He doesn't have any money. Yeah. With taxpayer money, bribery. Taxpayers' money is all the money he has't have any money. Yeah, with taxpayer money, right? Taxpayers money is all the money he has.

That's all. That's it, and his donations from his base. Jordan, who did not show up for his deposition in the impeachment inquiry today? That would be Mr. Bolton. Yes, half man, half moustache, John Bolton. Yes. It's so bushy.

That's where the secrets are. Right? The answers. That man has a hipster ass mustache. We were talking about that is the secret system. That's the code word classified system. They just hide it and hold his mustache. He actually said today if he were subpoenaed, he'd take it to court. So I can't tell if he's being a prickly dick or if he was waiting for the McGann thing to come out. So if you guys remember, Cuppermann is his number two and Cuppermann got a subpoena and

then the White House told him you can't do it. So he said, well, I need a third opinion so he filed a suit with the courts They petition the court saying you tell me what to do if I get two of the three branches tell me what to do I'll do it and it turns out that was gonna take too long to go through the courts So the house with Drew Covernment subpoena and tell you what, we don't have time to wait, even though I'm pretty sure that judge was like, dude, you gotta go. But they just don't have time to wait,

so they said what you should do instead is find out whatever they decide in the McGann case. Because that'll be decided any day now. And so Cuperman, I don't know if they've agreed to that or not, but I had a feeling whatever cuperman decided to do, Bolton would decide to do, because they have the same lawyer. But Bolton has said, if you subpoena me, I'll take it to court just like cuperman did. So I don't know if he's being a dick like I said, or if he's just saying, he'll show

up if they say him again has to show up. I think that might be the case, but they're already sort of plowing past that. Does it seem like that? Does it seem like they're like, we have enough? Go, go, go. Go, go, gadget impeachment. So if the court does not rule in our favor,

what can Congress still exercise just their power as the Congress to make someone come in or to hold them in contempt? Well, you'd have to do contempt through the Department of Justice unless you went fucking old school on their asses and took them down to the jail in the basement of the Congress and find them.

Yeah, I'm found for that. I'm so for that. I'm so into that. Is there actually a jail in the paper? Everyone's like, oh, that's a little radical AG. Right, is there actually a jail? Is there actually a jail? Yeah.

Oh, shit. Hell yeah. It's like a little cell. Still. But now, I've, but also I've heard that that is a legend, an urban legend. But I think I've seen a picture of it. I'm not sure.

Fucking lock them up at the Hilton. I don't give a shit. Just detain them. There has to be bunkers there of some kind. Find them. Yeah, and I know Adam Schiff was saying to the State Department, we're the appropriations in the house

and we can take away your salaries, but they haven't done that yet either. So I say get on that shit. Yeah. Um, and I've had a lot of lawyers be like, no, we haven't done that for a hundred years with inherent contempt. You have to go through the department of justice. And I'm like, these are crazy. Yeah. It is a ridiculous thing to do. But like you said, it's like all of this is so ridiculous. I do think that the court, though, is going to come with the decision that we're hoping for.

It does seem that way, like you said, so. The court is not going to go the other way. If the court goes the other way, that will be a moment that we take to the streets, because that means that the rule of law is dead. Right. Yes. Or... I don't know these sound bites at all before. So there are surprises every time. Wait, what was that?

What is it? What is it? Oh, it it Mortal Kombat? I know nothing. Is that the video game? Is that the video game? Well, you just press every button that you can, just to have the game?

Yeah, I don't know. It's just how I play dance revolution. Yeah, no, you're right. And the other thing that would be a problem is if, for example, if in the Mueller case, they said you must hand the department of justice, you must hand over the grand jury materials and the department of justice does what it has done

with the FOIA request and slow rolls it or doesn't put out the complete thing or it doesn't hand it over at all. That is also a breakdown of the judiciary. We haven't gotten to the point where our executive is F and Department of Justice is messed up, but our judiciary has held so far. And until that last piece of the puzzle falls.

Yeah, it's not time yet. It's not time yet. And hopefully we won't get there. About that inherent content business, I think all they have to do is arrest one of these people and put them in a cell for an hour and they'll all file in so fast, you won't know what hit them. They're all a bunch of, and I'm allowed to say this now,

pussies. Yeah, it was like when Epstein went to jail, he's like, no, no, no, no, this won't do it all. I need the door open. I need a TV in that room. I need to be able to go home for 12 hours a day and I need the you know Underage Girls, yeah female lawyers to come visit me on the hours of the day. What a dick. Yeah Fuck that guy Should we do a Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself joke or? Nah, it's implied. I feel like it is implied at this point. Everyone's saying it so.

I will say that I don't think he killed himself. I do think he will see. I think he died by suicide though. I really am loving these memes. They make me laugh. As long as they don't like be little the victims and the survivors and what they had to go through. The weird thing about the theory that he did not kill himself is that it draws in people from both sides. It's a very bipartisan explanation. Because they'll be like a friend will be like, oh yeah, he didn't kill himself. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, you think some crazy shit happened with like all the people

that he was rolling with and they're like, yeah, like, Clinton. That's... That's... I think the Clinton's killed him. Crazy. If it was like a show, it would be like the Trump people would say the Clintons did it and the Clinton people would say that the Trumps did it and at the end of the show, it would be like, the Queen of England did it. Yes, and then Putin is just sitting there with like a hairless cat.

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He made this from the law firm Dangle and pardon Yes, exactly he Yes Cohen's attorney. He was he was before he formalized Representing Cohen though. He sent this email in 2018 saying that Cohen could sleep well tonight because he had friends in high places. That was the the dangle in pardon that we're referring to. And I think the deal ultimately fell through between him

and Cohen because Cohen wound up flipping obviously. So good choice Cohen. That was smart to flip and not to continue on with any pardon dangling. But yeah, it's just, I think it's a really good sign that he is going to be indicted and is being super investigated right now. So this is a celebratory thing, I think, that he's that he loyered up. Yes, I agree. Maga, making attorneys get attorneys.

up. Yes, I agree. Maga, making attorneys get attorneys. Um, yeah. He tweeted something that made me think he's going to be indicted. Yes, would you like me to read it? Yes, that'd be so great. Okay, he says, I call this his Twitter opening statement. Um, he says, the evidence when revealed fully will show, I need like a cape and like a bar to hang from my feet on. What are you doing? Okay. The evidence when revealed fully will show that this present

farce is as much a frame up and hoax as Russian collusion, maybe worse and will prove the president is innocent hilarious he thinks this is about the president at this point this is like very much about him being investigated as well but yeah that's what he said yeah and I'm I tweeted out in like you sound like you're about to be indicted bro and so I I don't know I'm not sure how this works behind the scene. If you're gonna be indicted, I assume they tell you before they tell everybody else.

And then I think you can appeal it with the grand jury and then they make a final decision. This seemed to be what happened with McCabe's case, but I'm not super sure about that. Because after like a month or so, McCabe's attorney's attorneys met with the Department of Justice attorneys and the Department of Justice attorneys said, we are denying your appeal to fight indictment. And so they called the grand jury back in. And normally what happens in that case is probably because he fucking didn't break the law. But so now I'm wondering like if this is what was going on with it's Juliani, if he's in that limbo stage,

he's been told, but we haven't heard about it yet. I think that the answer is, as Dennis Lemieux put it, well indictment happened when the puck come down, bang, you know. Before the other guys, you know, nobody there, you know, my arm goes up and then the game's start, bang, you know. Before the other guys, you know, nobody there, you know, my arm goes up and then the game's stopped and start up. That's indictment. He would be like the worst client to have ever, though, the worst because he thinks he's the smartest person ever, and he would, the one of the things that I read

is that so many people were thinking about representing him, and then they were like, no fucking way, this guy's gonna try to lead this entire case the whole time. Like, why would I even be here? It would just be running around trying to corral him constantly. One of the... Yeah, and can you imagine trying to keep him like under a gag order?

Yeah, he has will be issued. Yeah, and he has wings so he's Impossible to keep track of he's Vampire is a vampire batch of Not like Red Bull wings like evil wings Where you go and that's that wings yeah, that wings at least so have some friends though Not like Red Bull Wings, like evil wings. He's going bad wings. Yeah, bad wings. At least still have some friends though, because I feel like he doesn't have anyone to talk to right now.

He is right. He is right. He's always running around, losing his shit. So maybe he hired someone he loves, so he has some friends to talk to. And I just saw something that made me very happy too, with somebody who did an article about Trump being very lonely right now. And they show him at the Resolute Desk. Yeah.

Oh, God. So he's at the Resolute Desk doing this job. Oh, my God. And he's just there by himself, and he's just kind of looking around. No one's there, there's no paper or phone or anything on the desk. No pens, no books, nothing. And he's just at your sketch.

It's not like... Donnie doesn't want a president today. He's got one of those toy phones. It's for you. Oh, God. And they're like, he's just lonely right now because who you know most presidents have like advisors around him Nobody will fucking go near him. So he's like by himself, and I'm like, oh, that's too fucking bad Just Kelly I laughed fetching him McDonald's every now and again

It's the desolate this I really like that's who sometimes I'm actually me. No, it's okay It's not about the McDonald's. It's just about anything that can be used to mock him. That is it. No larger comments on McDonald's. Go McDonald's. I feel like we have to apologize for everything else. So it's gonna be like, actually, I was conceived

out of McDonald's and I find that to be very offensive. Excuse me, my McDonald's died last year, and I don't appreciate it. I feel like I'm gonna shame him for you, McDonald's, and then someone's gonna see me later at 2am if we had a few beers, getting some fries. Like, that's you. All right, so that is sabotage, and we do that

because that could impact our next segment. Are you ready to play the fantasy indictment league? I'm prepared to take notes I hear that when I take a shower sometimes Hear that sound clip like you're just here. You just hear it when you I take a shower sometimes. I hear that sound clip like, and I just hear it. You just hear it when you're taking a shower? Like in your brain?

Yeah, yeah. Just random. Sound clips from the show I hear in my head sometimes of random times. Yeah. That's one of them. Just like an Alfred Hitchcock psycho thing where they're just like, and I do.

That's all I say. I'm okay. I don't know why specifically the shower, but anyway. Yeah. Mm. Mm. Mm. You died it.

All right, I get to go first. Because you went first last time, not because I'm just saying I get to. And I'm going to go with Giuliani first. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh! Oh! Okay.

And he turns into a bat and slips out of the cup. Oh my god, that would be the most amazing, like... Oh gosh. Can you indict a bat? I don't know. It was a good idea. Okay. I am... I, yes, Tom Frickett and Barric. Has to happen.

All right, I think I'm going to go with Parnas. And I'm going to add a plea agreement for an extra point that I just made up as a new rule. I like that. Okay. I'm going to say super-seating a diamonds for Freeman. Yes. Yep, that's it.

I gave you a compliment. You what? Nothing. I was going to pick Super-seating Freeman, but that's cool. I'm going to go with Jizz Lane. Oh, did you write your pigs down on this paper? Yes. Oh, I'm so sorry.

I haven't been looking at that. You actually went right to Supersea and Fruimin, which was right there. Oh my gosh. I know. Very prescient. Wow. And I know her name is not pronounced Jizz Lane, but that is her name. I'm so sorry.

Would you like it? You did write it first. Are you sure? name. I'm so sorry. Would you like it? You did write it first. Are you sure? Yes. I mean, but I wrote it. I put way more than enough on here. Okay, I'm very lucky with this game, so everything I touched I, so you don't want it back. Okay, let's do Trump org.

Wait, is that, let me just consult with you. No, you're fine. There we go. Trump organization. I didn't have that one. Okay, perfect. I'm gonna go super seating Nader. All right. I'm gonna go with Soriano. Soriano. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because there was like so much reporting coming out about this. Yes, sketchy ties. I'm gonna do that too. Kauaja. Oh, okay. No Why is that what I do pick a H a? I'm asking why is that why why blast from the past what's so oh? We've talked about him in a long time But he's he's close to Giuliani. He knows love and Igor and

Eric Prince hangs out some bad dudes. Oh And he donated a bunch of money to the Trump org. So yeah, I'm going to go there, Prince. I think he's been trading on without being indicted for way too long. I don't know how he and Kush and Junior have avoided indictment. I don't. How many is that for me? Three.

I think we have five. Yeah, I think we're all done. Yeah. No, no, no. I didn't pick all those. One, two. Giuliani, Parnas. No, I didn't need her, Kojah.

I'd Giuliani, Parnas. Oh, I did, I picked five. I didn't pick five. You were... Did you know counting goes away during menopause? All right, so and you've got your five? Yes, I think so. We play fancy and diamond league. you got your five? Yes, I think so. We play Fancy and Diamond League. And now, I'm so glad that you're here. I have some questions because you just wrote

an incredible piece on, let's see, Mike Pence and Rudy Giuliani. So let's start with Pence. And I brought this up a little bit early in the show. How has he avoided being touched by any of this? He's so out of the news, out of the cycle. How's he done that? Jesus. No, I'm kidding. I think it's by design. I mean, I was reading the book called Piety and Power by Tom Lobchenko. And he goes into how called Piety and Power by Tom Labeanco. And he goes into how Pence was selected initially. And Trump at the time wanted either Gingrich as the vice president or Chris Christie as the vice president who were all like Trump, these loud mouth assholes. And Pence, Manafort was arguing over and over

will help you win in the rust belt because he comes across as not an asshole. He looks like somebody who's polite and he smiles and he kind of recedes into the background. And that's- Humber in the Shrebs. Ultimately why he was selected. There's lots of weird stuff about how exactly that happened. There was a flat tire.

Trump was flying around on Trump Force 1, his repurposed commercial airliner that he had gold plated shit put on it, Trumpify it. And it landed in Indianapolis and he was going to take off that night and Mike and Karen Pence were going to fly to New York to meet the Trump and his family at Trump Tower. Trump Tower at the time always seems like saueron, like at some load of the rings, kind of evil place. But there was a flat tire on this Trump Force I, so they were forced to spend the night

in Indianapolis. And so the meeting took place at Pence's gubernatorial mansion. so it was on his home turf, and he was much more comfortable, and the meeting went much better than maybe it probably would have at Trump Tower with the gilded toilets and all that stuff. So the thinking is that Manafort had something to do with this phantom flat tire to get Pence selected to begin with. Who knows? The quote in the book is, some saw the hand of God, others the hand of Manafort. So that's how he was selected. And even at the time it was, you know, Trump changing his mind, and maybe it's going to be this guy after all, and

da-da-da-da. But I think that, you know, Pence is there, and his role in the campaign for the entire time has been to disnify for one of the better words. In the way that Rudy Giuliani took 42nd Street in Manhattan and got rid of all of the CD bars and replaced it with, you know, child-friendly crap. That's what Mike Pence does with Trump. He kind of like, you know, he's polite and he's kind, he's mannered, you know, people generally when they interact with him don't think he's a dick, that kind of thing.

And he has a very nice speaking voice because he was a radio host and he's got this very earnest way about him. So he'll, you know, trouble say something crazy and pencil say, well, no, you know, he doesn't really mean it like that. What he really means is that so his job is to sanitize whatever it is that Trump is trying to do. And he's been in the background. Yeah, that's gross image in my head. Yeah. I'm not going to go there. You know what?

So I think his role in the campaign has been almost a counterbalanced Trump and be somebody to assure voters, you know, Republican voters, especially that there is a grown-up in the room. And he's been around a lot. You know, having a vice, the role of the vice president in this country has changed dramatically in the last like 25, 30 years. Starting with Gore was the first vice president who was really kind of activist and involved with the stuff that was happening. I mean, when Truman took over for FDR, he had no idea what was going on at all. He had to be like, oh, did you know we're at war?

Oh, wow. I didn't even, you know, he was like so out of the loop that he barely understood, like he had to be brought up to speed. So it's starting with Gore and then obviously Dick Cheney was super duper involved with everything and Pence is also, you know, in on everything. If you look at all of the stuff that, you know, any major thing that Trump has done, Pence is there hovering in the background. But if he's in on everything, how is he not also implicated on everything? Well, he is, but the thing is he's quiet. Like Kushner is quiet. The two of them, I

think, are the quiet ones, and they know better. I think they're slightly smarter than everybody else, so they know to keep their mouths shut, and that keeps them out of the spotlight. And it's easy to be kept out of the spotlight when Trump is there. So it's sort of the juxtaposition to Trump

that makes it seem like he's clean of everything or just staying insulated when it's just he can be, who's just not allowed asshole And there's only so much like media coverage that's possible in the universe and Trump, you know Demand so much of it whether it's the crimes that we you know enumerate over and over I've done long threads listening all the bad things he's done and then I get to like Thread numbers, you know point number 16 and'm like, I forgot about all the rapes. And he's, you know, which is, it's awful to say that.

This is a guy who is sexual assailant in the White House, and he's done so many other bad things that we, like I forget, it's madness. So when you have somebody like that, like, yeah, just the amount of all the criminality and bad behavior around Trump, not to, in the past, not to mention whatever he's tweeting or doing or however he's embarrassing himself

at any given moment, demands so much attention that there's only so much left that people can have to look at Mike Pence. And they've kept him, I think they've tried to keep him insulated and give him this plausible deniability of not knowing what's going on. Although clearly, he must know what's going on. There was the thing with Flynn,

back during, you know, around the time of, I think it was in February or March of 2017, when Flynn left as national security advisor, that Trump used the fact that Flynn had lied to Pence as an excuse to fire him. But Pence knew all of the stuff that he was supposed to not have known. I mean, it was, he was told by, you know, they were warned and all this other stuff.

So he could sort of, that was very wishy-washy. We never really got a good explanation out of it. It wasn't pressed. No, and I remember hearing that, you know, when Flynn left, there was something was said to the effect of, well, why don't we say we fired him and Trump said, yeah, that sounds better. Yeah. Now, we don't know what it sounds better than. And we still don't know, I think why ultimately Flynn left the White House, but you're right. And I, it's not because, you know, he didn't tell, or, you know, he told Pence pens the wrong shit or whatever that bullshit well i mean and again you know to to the point about trump demanding so much attention because of the crimes

flin is a horrible horrible trader and i mean he he was lobbying for turkey he was in with the russians with lots of stuff and and trump was warned multiple times by obama by the department by by Yates, the Department of Justice, by Congress, not to hire the guy. And he gave him the keys to all of the top secrets of the United States intelligence, which itself, he should have been impeached at that moment. It's madness.

That, and, you know, thank you. Again, you know, this speaks to Trump's judgment, but he took a trader that everyone knew was a trader, didn't listen to them, and gave him all of our secrets. It's crazy. So, Pence was involved with that in some way. We don't know exactly what he knows, but he's never been deposed. He's never been under oath. Occasionally, he'll be asked about it in the press, and he's a guy that was a debate champion He's smart. He knows how to like talk to you know talk circles around things So you know fast forward to now with this Ukraine business my piece in Newsweek is about if we impeach Trump and remove him

Because of the Ukraine scandal because of the extortion the bribery the whatever you want to call it If that's the reason that we're ultimately going to remove Trump, how can Pence then become president because he was a party to that crime? So, you know, the last line in the Newsweek piece is you don't replace the guy who robbed the bank with the guy who drove the getaway car. You know, you can't do it. So what did Pence know when did he know it going back to the watergate

stuff but it seems inconceivable to me but if you rob the bank during the day uh... well then juliani can't be there because he's a vampire you know but but but but but but right now we're getting all of these people coming to testify about what they knew about Ukraine Right and the quid pro quo the extortion the bribery whatever the crime that Trump committed So all of these people that bolt a new and tailor new and the Ukrainian about you know our Maria new and I'm forgetting there's like 17 people that have testified The whistleblower knew if all of these people knew

how the fuck did Mike Pence not know. Yeah. You know? And if he didn't know, then he's an idiot, and he shouldn't be the president for that reason. Yeah, and I think that we've said, how many times have we said that? Like, this person has to know this shit went on.

If they don't, they're stupid. They shouldn't be there in the first place. So, I 100% agree with you on that. And then also, you did a great piece on Rudy Giuliani, the vampire bet. But before I get to Giuliani, we'll talk about him for a couple minutes. And then when we're done talking about Giuliani, we've got a microphone over there. We're going to do about 10 minutes of Q&A. If anybody has any questions, you can line up over by the mic.

But I wanted to ask you about the Karen Pan's thing when she found out about the Access Hollywood tapes. I remember this vaguely. Tell me. She was so mad about the Access Hollywood tapes. She was pissed about the Access Hollywood tapes that when they were at, when they were watching election results and they announced Trump won, she walked up to her husband

and just like handed him something real hard in his chest and said, you got what you want, Mike, you got what you wanted and just walked away. But it was mother. But she was very, very, very upset about the Access Hollywood tapes when it came out. She wanted Pence to like not to drop out. The dynamic in that relationship, by the way, based on the book, the Tom L'Obianco book, is that Karen Pence very much wears the pants in that family. By the way, just FYI, it's, you know, he doesn't, I mean, I know we kind of joke about it,

but it's like, she was called like sort of the shadow governor when he was in Indiana. Oh, he's a flaccid, wispy man. Right? Right? His shoulders are a little too broad for his attitude. But Giulne, we've got a couple minutes to talk about Giuliani. I wanted to get your insights on what's going on with him because he's clearly, people are calling him a subject of this investigation.

He's the target. And I'm also fascinated that there's an entire counterintelligence piece going on at the same time. And I'm a little, I'm so unfamiliar with how counter intelligence investigations work, because you, they're not criminal, you don't arrest anybody. No one disappears. Like what happens? Everyone just sort of goes at the FBI and the CIA, like, yeah, that guy's fucking that

steal our secrets and fucking shit up. And then we just, they just know. And then that's it. Like, nothing seems to happen to anyone in account or intelligence investigation. And so, I know that you can't tell me what's going to happen with Giuliani in that sense, but I certainly hope he gets indicted criminally.

I think that he will. I mean, I think it's sort of, it looks like a mortal lock at this point. I don't see how he could possibly avoid it in terms of that. But the piece that I wrote on Giuliani kind of goes, tracks back to 9-11. I lived in New York City on 9-11. So that day has special resonance for me, as I'm sure it does for everybody, you know, listening. But that was the day, you know, Giuliani, who was horribly unpopular at the time

and had a three months left in his second term as mayor, suddenly comes into the spotlight and you know, by his able leadership and he becomes quote America's mayor, unquote, and these time person. Everyone seems to have this fond memory of him, but he was an asshole. Well, yeah, I mean, but on the day he was, you know,

I'll say on the day he was good. He was. But the reality is that I read this great book called Grand Illusion by Dan Collins and Wayne Barrett. Wayne Barrett used to write for the Village Voice and reported that Trump was a mobbed up asshole like 30 years ago. Anyway, people should have read the Village Voice more.

That's it. That's it. That's it. But Giuliani on 9-11, I mean, first of all, he was mayor for years. The World Trade Center was already attacked in 1993. He becomes mayor. He does absolutely nothing to help prevent another terrorist attack.

Other than he created this office of emergency management, which later he would talk about this great thing, but it did nothing. I had one person there and like a fax machine that no one used. And the fire department- The radio is actually not work? The fire department and the police department were not coordinated, which is basically emergency management. Crisis management 101. Somebody's got to be in charge telling everybody what to do. They didn't have that. Yes, the radios were because of something with next tell where the cell phone was sort of notoriously shitty in Lower Manhattan. They weren't working.

When the fire department was going into the buildings, they had walkie talkies from the 1960s. Again, Julie I. is fault. And he made this command center, and he put it in the fucking World Trade Center complex, even though everybody told him not to do that. I mean, even his little licks,

fiddle asshole lackeys were like, really, what are you doing, dude? No, you know, this is a bad idea. And he's like, no, no, I have to be able to walk there. We'll want it there. And, you know, my first memory of him on 9-11 was coming out of the building with the anchor chip, and he's in the dirt, and you're thinking, wow, this guy,

he went right down there. And no, he went down there because his idiot, command center got blown up, and he can't get to it. And now he's wandering the streets looking for somewhere to set up shop. I mean, that's what he was doing on 9-11. And this is his fault. And because of the lack of preparedness,

lots of, you know, the people that were going to die because of the building and the plane, there's nothing to be done about that, unfortunately, but a lot more first responders died because of Giuliani's fuck up. So that's A. And now, so he takes this fuckup and you know exploits his moment in the sun and basically you know pips out 9-11 for his own

purposes and he goes into business called Giuliani Partners which it's supposed to be a management consultant firm but all it really is is him saying I'm America's mayor, I am good at emergency preparedness. Let me take your shitty company and you can come stand with me. And my aura of amazing this will wash over you. And it will be good. And all of his clients were really, really sleazy. Like at the time, they're-

I saw Guarantee. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What was the name? It was a rap, Mafia Rave. What was the name of the club? Oh, yeah. The guy on the name of the club? Oh, yeah. The guy on the other side. Some mafia rape.

No, it wasn't. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, nextel was one of the clients, again, which contributed to the 9-11, to the lack of communication of 9-11. Merrill Lynch, which Elliott Spitzer, who was then the attorney general of New York, was going after hard for corruption.

What was the other one? And Purdue Pharma. He was a huge client of Purdue Pharma, makers of OxyCon on, Kanton can't say it. And Rudy's lobbying fucked that. Because of Rudy, stuff got put into place that enabled the opioid market to grow, okay? So that's who Rudy Giuliani is. He's always been a piece of shit. If you're willing to take the worst tragedy that's

happened in my lifetime and monetize it almost immediately after it happens, and then monetize it in a way that unlike you looking for your sponsors who are all woman-owned cool businesses, he's like the flip side of that. He's like looking for the shit-off-hole clients. He's taking their money, and he's exploiting 9-11 for his own personal purposes.

If you're willing to do that, if you're willing to go into bed with Purdue Pharma, why not cozy up to dictators? Why not go to Ukraine and stir up Muck? Why not go see Manafort in prison through the intermediary and find out how to trees and better? You know? Well I hope that in 2020 when we elect a Democrat, that we are going to start putting money back into white collar crime so that people like Epstein and Giuliani and Manafort go to jail before they're fucking 75 years old.

Yes. Amen. The white collar crime thing too, it's important to... That's almost like one of these quid pro quo collusion phrases that makes it seem less bad than other crimes. But the Russian mob equals white-collar crime, right? So a lot of the things that the Russian mob, a lot of the schemes that they did, certainly in the 90s, involve Medicare fraud.

So right now, like, we're trying to get like universal health care and Medicare for all. Well, one way we can do that is to go after the fucking Russian mob because there's stealing money out of the system. So, you know, that's something that we have to consider. It's not just, you know just somebody cheating on their taxes. It's these active schemes by transnational crime syndicates that are robbing us of our money and making everybody's health care cost worse.

That it has a white collar crime has a real world effect on everybody in this country. That's the point. Yep, I agree, 100%. APPLAUSE Thank you, Greg. That was really informative. Thank you so much for that. Yes. Giuliani, yeah. Hey Mueller junkies, A.G. here.

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Zero. Oh, okay, all right, we have somebody yay! Woo-hoo! Hi, hi there. So NPR the other day said that when there is an impeachment trial in the Senate, attendance by all of the senators is mandatory. And Moscow Mitch also said, well, I'm not going to have any choice but to hold a trial in the Senate.

So I wonder if you can sort of give us some beans on what that's going to mean for all of our senators that are currently running for president. Oh, interesting question. So what you're saying is, your understanding is that you mandatory presence in the Senate when there's an impeachment trial? Is that true?

I hadn't heard that. I don't think that's true. For the vote, you just need a quorum, which is 51. So I don't know that it's mandatory that they all be there. So I don't think that they actually would have to be there. I'll look that up. Is there anybody in the house that knows the answer to that? But I don't think that-

I've read things about the quorum. That the way around it is to have a quorum rather than the full group, because that would mean that GOP wouldn't have to vote on it, but the vote would go forward. And to answer your question, what would happen? Kamala Harris' numbers will go way up. That's what's going to happen. Yeah, I think it would actually, that's a good point if she does have to be there for whatever reason, or at any of the senators that are still in the race have to be there,

they're going to want to be there. Thank you. Yeah, no problem, thank you. Hello. Hello. I have a two-part question. The first part is the much more important question. Your fan that says, blow me for women in menopause. Where did you get that? Ask.

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Great to know. I'll tell her. You won't hurt her no. My question is, you know, Trump has got these t-shirts now. You know, read the transcript. And I'm concerned, I'd like to know your thoughts on, obviously, the transcript in, you know, non-Bizarre world, the transcript is not good for him. But what I'm concerned about is that in Trump world and in the people who drink the Kool-Aid and the people who rely on his ability to get

people to believe what he says in his Jedi mind tricks, he's counting on people not reading the transcript just like he was counting on people not to read the Mueller report. And you know, you talked a lot about that in your show. Do you think that's going to end up being effective? I think that his messaging on read the transcript, he tweets it out at least once a day also. I stopped responding. I used to just respond with a picture of the first page with the highlighted thing that says this is not a transcript. Well, it's it's it

warns that on the front of it and I was just countering that with every you know every tweet that he put out. But that's his messaging, that's how he does it, and that's, I think, how he's communicating to his base. He's downed, I think, to a 39% approval rating, and I think that the public hearings fuck his base. They're lost, they're gone. But he just don't have to worry about him anymore. I think what we need to worry about are the independent voters. But it gives the senators an ability to say,

read the transcript, too. The senators who hold the majority. Yeah. Lindsey feels like he shouldn't read anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, especially the Constitution.

Good one. But I honestly think that, I mean, it is messaging, there's nothing really we can do to counter it until the Democrats, which I think they're going to start doing, at least they've been signaling that they're going to do this, as they're going to get a little tougher on the language, and start saying bribery and extortion instead of quid pro quo. And I've seen that come out in their tweets, and I think they're going to do it in these public-facing hearings. instead of quid pro quo and I've seen that come out in their tweets and I think they're going to do it in these public facing hearings and I was very encouraged when I saw Adam Schiff get up and simply say look he bribed Ukraine with your money

to get them to dig up dirt on a political opponent and and they're keeping and they're trying to keep it super simple so I'm hoping that whoever is advising the Democrats on their messaging and their language I'm hoping that whoever is advising the Democrats on their messaging and their language can put it on a bumper sticker, because we couldn't put the Mueller report on a bumper sticker. Hello. Hi.

Welcome to Boston. So we were talking about Pence before. You were talking about Pence before. And sure, he might belong in jail, right? But like, now that Trump is in power and we have HB1 and we have all this newfound specificity about corruption, right? But in a world where the third in line is Nancy Pelosi,

no, no, no, no, no, it's exciting, but let's just be clear. Like, that would be great, but there no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, pens ever be caught, I mean, we've caught him maybe, but like, even if pens were implicated in this and even if Trump and pens were both implicated and impede in this, there is a way for Nancy Pelosi to not be president. They would have a Republican that they would choose and appoint before that happened. There's ways around it. So Nancy Pelosi will not be the president.

Yeah. No, I mean, that would be great if she was. But I guess my question is, and sorry if it's long winded, my question is, what should, so HB1 is the big deal, right? And that's all newfound specificity for corruption, right? But what would you put in the next corruption bill to make sure that whoever, because if gangsters get into the White House, it's gonna be a few of them, right?

That's what gangs are, it's more than one person, right? So what would you put in the next corruption bill to make sure that the next person will line and the next person will line, if they're guilty, how do you prevent them from taking power? If it's all a media game, is my question. What would you put in the corruption bill? I personally, I don't think you could put this in a corruption bill.

This would have to be an amendment to the Constitution, but I think we should vote separately for Vice President. What do you mean separately? So that you can have a Republican president and a Democrat Vice President. Okay, interesting. Cool, bring. Yeah. Cool, bring it back. What was that?

Can you repeat the comment? Yeah, it didn't work. This didn't fucking work. I'm sorry, I didn't mean it. Right, so if Hillary was the president, and Trump was the vice president, you don't think that maybe some crazy maga gun nut would try to increase the likelihood that something bad would happen.

Alright, fine. I just don't even understand the fucking point of a vice president. I think a good thing to put in the bill would be a mandatory disclosure of your tax returns. Yeah. Yeah, of your tax returns and then an investigation into anything that's sketchy. And it would be a long-ass process, but that just seems like so many trails ultimately. I would also love a permanent special counsel. Yeah. I don't, I actually disagree. I think that this is kind of a perfect storm in a way,

and that setting up too much stuff, it's kind of, the ability to make it more corrupt is worse than whatever it would be meant to save. If that makes sense, it may or you add. If the media had done their fucking jobs, and if the people, not the people here and the lovely people of Boston, but the people who voted for Trump because they thought he was this, that, and the people, you know, not the people here, and the lovely people of Boston, but the people who voted for Trump

because they thought he was this, that, and the other, had bothered to, like, read the village voice, for example. You know, it's sort of more incumbent on all of us to be a little more vigilant about it. And I think that's what the founders intended, and I think that's ultimately the, and I think also in our lifetimes, that's what's gonna happen without any legislation necessary.

Although I'd like some emoluments clause so, I'd like to take out, get rid of the OLC memo. I would also, I think you're right, when we add layers of bureaucracy, we just make it more vulnerable to corruption. But if we had, what does that mean? If we took like our time, time because more loopholes potentially present. Just like a background check. Let's say, OK, everybody has to pass a background check.

What does that even mean? Who does the background check? Who decides if the background check is passed? That opens up the door for whoever that person is or whatever panel it is to be corrupted. And it's probably not going to be somebody that's making $7 million a year and could be. That's the sort of thing that you want to avoid.

But the other thing I think that we couldn't do is we should take a look at our ethics norms and give them teeth. And I also think we should bring back in here contempt for that's just me. Oh, fuck yeah. Because it's hard when you've got, when 2.5 of your three branches of government are corrupt. And all you're holding on is to that last little bit of the judiciary, you know. I heard, did you see this thing where they want?

Somebody was proposing that the attorney general be a non-political appointee that goes for 10 years, like the director of the FBI or whatever, so just to make the AG not a political person. How do they get there? Somebody would appoint them at the end of whatever the term is, and they would space it out in such a way that it would be a good way. Yeah, they would just get fired and prick their own anyway.

I don't know. Hey, Komi. I think it should be, it should not be as easy as it is to constantly fire people, though, and install these acting directors constantly That seems like something that should be written out. I don't know because nothing stops him from doing that constantly So he just more or less has blanket control over all of the administrative Personally, but we had my way we just wouldn't even have a president Like but then we're going back to the opposite of America.

So it's hard. Like, hey, if I could create my own government, I'd go do it right now. But I do think that we need more laws. I think I disagree with the idea that that opens us up to more corruption. I wasn't saying that. I think more laws is good. I think fewer people, which I think is kind of what you were getting at. But I honestly think we should have put a commission together, a corruption

commission, try to figure out the best way to give these ethics norms like the Hatch Act or the Amaluments Clause actual teeth beyond going through the impeachment process. You just got to get rid of that OLC memo I think it would be a great start. Yeah. Thanks for your question. Yeah yeah definitely. Hi all my names Bridget I live in Rhode Island. Anyone else from Rhode Island? Woohoo! Please join the Women's Caucus because we are in deep-dew-dew. Our state party is run by dinos and they tried to implement, they're trying to implement bylaws that would basically

leave us toothless, it's ridiculous. It came out yesterday, checked your pro-drow and your uprise. Dinos like Democrats in Name Only or Dinos Like Old People? Like NRA, A plus reading, in bed with the Democrats in the moment. Yeah Anti choice it's ridiculous. Anyway join the women's caucus. I'm an executive committee member. I think women's Yeah, just like you all say just like Gaslett says go local Get active that way and everything. And it is, I've done that.

And I did the lights for Liberty. I organized the protests with two other people down in Rhode Island this summer. So it's been a good way to get yourself through all this to get really active local. But back to what I came up here to ask you about, don't we not even need to get into bribery or extortion? Isn't just, and I read this one,

if anyone else follows Terry Kingfield, I would love if you guys had Terry Kingfield on your show. She is like one of the best. I love you guys, I love her. I love Seth Abramsome, I love Gaslett. That's my follow all the time on Tara. What's her last name? Terry.

Terry Cainfield. Terry Cainfield? Yeah. Cainfield. T-E-R-I Cainfield, K-A-N-E field. Yeah, Cainfield. She's amazing. Cainfield.

Anyway, so she's pointed out and Rachel Maddo, my best friend I've never met. So it's also pointed out. Don't you love her? Don't you just think she was born to do this? Really? She is here at the right time, right place. I fucking love her.

They've pointed out that it's a violation of the emoluments caused just to simply ask for anything to do with the election. Nevermind bribery, never mind extortion, never mind quid pro quo. The ask itself was a violation of the claimant. It is, and it's also a federal criminal law that you can't do that. And I think that the reason I like them to use bribery is because it says in the impeachment article, the Constitution, bribery, high crimes, and misdemeanors.

It's right there. It's a short word. Republicans can understand it. It's not Latin. It's bribery. And yes, I know that this is also extortion, but to offer a White House meeting in exchange for dirt on a political opponent, that simple act of bribery is what the fucking article of impeachment was written for. It is what it was written for. And like, I, you know, and so I think, I mean, there's

so many ways that they could attack this with, you know, language and stuff like that. But I agree with you, just the ask. And that's the one thing, and all the Republicans' defenses, and all the goal posts they've moved, they haven't been able to answer the question. But you're cool with asking for dirt on your opponent. Yeah. They have, none of them will touch it. They all, it's bad, but it's not impeachable.

I looked on Don Jr's Twitter account and he actually said, oh, now they're dropping quit pro-quokes. They can't get it, so they're moving to these other talking points, which is like, no, bro, we were doing the other things, and you brought up quit. Yeah, no, no, Dears, we did it. You don't. Well, thank you very much for everything you do.

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Thank you for everything you're doing. Thank you for everything you're doing. Thank you for everything you're doing. Thank you for everything you're doing. Thank you for everything you're doing. Thank you for everything you're doing. old now, or three weeks old. She wrote it a little while ago, was that it wasn't necessary, so we shouldn't pursue it. But she was thinking, or maybe assuming, or fearing that there wouldn't be an obvious quid pro quo. But now that there is, show time. So. So, first of all, welcome to Boston. Thanks, no one else has said so.

And I just have information for you. Uh-oh. Night notes are not notes that you write at night. Thank you. They are in fact notes that aids of various sorts at various levels right during the day. And they are given to the principal to take home with them at night. They are essentially Mike Pence's homework. OK.

It's like the book, in that level where it's brought in. Yes. This is the fastest correction we've ever had. Live corrections, I guess. We just got a live correction. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Night notes, baby. This is... That is great that they have those. I know. Yes. I'm all changed around. I'm not sure the evidence about them. Yeah. That's true.

Hi, I'm Bob Antley from Marvier. I was watching CNN today and they were interviewing Farid Zakaria, who explained for the first time that he had been scheduling and was dazed away from an interview with President Zelinsky, where he would announce the investigation into Bereza. The Biden's 2016 democratic, you know. Triple cross. Yeah, everything that the bribery and extortion was about. And it was about an interview on a major American network

where they would say that Biden and all these other things were being investigated that would become a sound bite in Republican ads going on for the next several months. And that this was the ultimate goal of the bribery and extortion that a long investigation would take months, die in the news, probably revealed the nothing that was there months later,

but they wanted to get a kick in a sensitive place to Biden when he was struggling to retain control of the election process. That's a great point, and I'm glad that you brought that up because I read the same thing. And it also speaks very poorly of CNN That they would allow that to happen without vetting it

You know, it makes you wonder where where their priorities are the whole thing of all fell apart when Then the whistleblower complaint was revealed Everything hit the fan Trump had released the money, and the interview was canceled. Yeah, and there were two stories put out, I think by Washington Post and I think maybe they were both Washington Post, but it was journalists, journalists and whistleblowers that prevented that from happening two days before it was going to happen. And so journalists and whistleblowers are here as amen.

I want to go back to the transcript because we do have the transcript. We can read the transcript. We also know that the transcript is not verbatim, and we also know that the transcript somehow mysteriously was designated this super high security clearance. So why can't Congress, or does Congress have the power to get a hold of that actual recording and wouldn't be extremely powerful if we heard this conversation with Zelensky and Trump's

whatever Trump did? Well, there's no recording on the American side. That made me say maybe Ukraine has a recording. And I do think it might be worth it to subpoena the actual rest of the transcript or what's in the nice system, but that could take a while and they would also probably refuse to do it. It would go to court. We would have to go through the appellate process of just scotus. It would end up, it could be the Nixon tapes, but the smoking gun part of that conversation

is already public, you know what I mean? And so do we, I'm wondering do we really need to get that full transcript unless we can get just a recording of it from from Ukraine? I kind of have a worry that if we try to get that transcript or a recording of that call, the Republicans will say, see what you already have, there's nothing wrong with, and that's why they have to go get the rest of the whole thing. Where I feel like we should just say, we don't need the rest of the thing, here's your fucking bullshit right here, you gave it to us and you broke the fucking law.

And I feel like, kind of, that's the way we should go with it, because I've been battling like, should we just... But I also want to subpoena everything that's in that system. I want to see the call with MBS. I bet it has to do with Kishouji. I want to see the call with Putin, because you know it has to do with fucking over Ukraine anyway, which was Bill Taylor's nightmare scenario that he was talking about in his text messages.

When he even released the military aid, if this didn't all come to light? So I think there's benefits in it because you could put it next to what was released by the White House and say, look, you lied. But I don't know. I don't know that Pelosi wants to wait for it. There's one interesting thing about the transcript that what you were talking about reminded me of, which is that Trump released it, right?

So think about it this way. He... He... He releases a document in which he implicates himself with an impeachable crime, but he is not released as taxes. So, and he's gone to great lengths to avoid that from happening. What I heard is that, they're coming to...

Well, Osea was waiting for the taxes. That was gonna be the thing that was gonna get him. And this Ukraine thing kind of fell in her lap and kind of sped the process long. But those taxes, we haven't mentioned them yet, but those taxes are coming. And when we find them, if the taxes were good and made Trump look good and innocent, we would have them by now.

They would be like, he would sky-write them. He couldn't even cherry-pick and release certain parts of them. They're all bad. Yeah. And the thing about him being audited, too, that's his constant, well, I'm under audit, that's complete bullshit, because it's too complicated to audit. Most audits are done by people that are not super rich,

because it takes less time and this and that. And if somebody's audited once, they're not usually audited the next year, they're not usually audited again ever, somebody like that. So that's just a bullshit excuse. Like, he's hiding something, money laundering, cough cough, in his taxes, and it's going to come out. And again, there's all this other criminality,

and we've forgotten about the money laundering thing that he's been doing for the last three years. Like you said, we put that list together, and you keep remembering, oh yeah, shit. This and the, oh yeah, shit, the that. And so, be kind when, if I'm not, or somebody in the news isn't covering something, because you get the, oh, what are they distracting from? You aren't talking about this.

This story just died. Why? And you're like, because there are literally 9 million other stories right now. And it's not personal. There's just a fire hose of news, and a fire hose of corruption, and that's why we have to register and vote. Woo!

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