Jack - Paul Manafort’s Future

Episode Date: April 9, 2018

Hello Mueller Junkies! This week, we give an update on George Nader, discuss John Bolton’s potential ethical issues, & break down Manafort’s potential future indictments; plus all the week’s news! Enjoy! 

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I thought you were going to say they could reminisce about what it used to be like to listen to ads. Oh. That too. This is it. You should maybe play a little girl from Epinima behind that whole thing. Ooh. They sound like a fake ad.

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Great cereals. Yeah, I do like Crogor. That's an out west grocery store chain, right? It's in the South too, actually. Is it in the South? Yeah, we don't have pigly wiggly, but we do have crow grudge. I'm surprised you know what that is.

Face out of Ohio, Bernhard Kruger. Oh, nice. That's my home state. Oh, nice. That's another clue to figuring out who I am. Thank you. All the AGs. There's this poor lady that someone thought was you.

That's been getting tweeted at really yeah Well I remember it's that it's our Yeager. Oh his wife. Yeah, yeah, wait. It's his wife his wife What yeah, Abby something yeah, yeah the one the one that he was like is this a G Yeah, it's really yeah, he was joking. That's his wife. Oh my gosh. That is so funny Okay, well then she enjoys being trolled Hopefully because I said that I said you're not the first person to say that. He's like really that's my wife Oh, that's so funny. We have funny fans. We do our fans are the best. Yeah, I still can't get over the squid pro crow Yeah, it's the best drawing. Well, you'll see it in the newsletter if you get one

First I have a correction from last week. Like I said, it's Kogan Not Kroger. I'm gonna call him Croger anyway. So I have nicknames for everyone, like Ibiza, an Ibiza Croger, Kush, pop a dot, RoboCop. Yeah. RoboLavlyev, they're live. I call him RoboCop. It's weird that I have like nicknames for all those guys,

but not for like Lit Venianco, AkMenschen, Kavalatse, or Vessel Nutskaya. Like I'm fine with those. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I'm totally fine with those. All right, well let's get into this week's news with just the facts. All right, so Monday, Mueller filed a court document reminding everyone, just in case

they forgot, that Vanderswan agreed to waive his FOIA rights in his plea agreement. So what's FOIA? FOIA has the Freedom of Information Act. We've talked about this before on the show, but in case you're just this is your first episode. Basically any journalist or civilian or person in the government or anyone can file a Freedom of Information act request and the government has to honor it. So Mueller reiterated in the court document the two reasons why he wanted to ensure the FOIA right was waived. And he thought it was important enough to repeat

that he filed a totally separate court document about it. That's all this court document was, was, hey, don't forget, he can't do FOIA. Vanderswan can't do FOIA. First, the first reason is because Vanderswan could make a crazy ass FOIA request, and that would, like, quick-sand the limited resources of the official special, or the office of the special counsel. I'm not sure if quick-sand is a verb, but I'm making it a lot.

It paints a picture, for sure. Yeah, yeah. So, like, for instance, he could request every email that contains the word the, and bog down Mueller's office, trying to fulfill that request and the whole investigation would sink into the swamp of sadness Artex! You're sinking! Come on! Turn around! You have to know! Artex! It's so sweet!

That's the thing with the big furry dragon dog, right? Yeah, yeah. Flocked in the sky. Yeah. They dragon dog, right? Yeah, yeah. Felt poor. Yeah. They made me cry. That was a kid. Yeah, me too. I didn't understand them.

Do you remember when I was coarse? Sankin' the swamp of sadness? I actually don't know. It was so young. I do. Yeah, that was so devastating to me when I was a kid. Oh yeah. My grandma showed me that shit too.

She's a Christ grandma. Yeah. That in Agatha Christie, she was a fucked up grandma. Oh man. You still is just a fucking fucking pretty girl. She also told me I got the freckles on my face because I was getting my diaper changed ones and I pooped into the fan that was on above me. Oh that's hilarious.

That's really funny. Yeah. Although I will say my goddaughter was sitting in one of those automatic swings and she shits herself and it drew like a little geometric shape on the ground and liquid shit. Like some Fibonacci sequence. I like it. It was totally the golden spiral but made of shit. It happened in kindergarten.

I wore a dress to school and I shot myself and my teacher picked me up for my chair and it was just sitting right there. Amazing. Yeah. Very interesting. But now I repeated it for the whole world to know. Yeah, that was a nice drill. I think we should leave that in.

I like the poop stories. Myself. Anyhow, the second and probably more important reason mentioned by the special counsel, the second reason he filed this to remind everybody about the FOIA thing, is that Vander's Juan knows sensitive information that could taint the investigation, taint. You could taint the investigation

if it were made public through FOIA requests. And this is important. So put a pin here, or whatever my catchphrase is gonna be. I put it out on Twitter like, I need to put a pin in it. Yeah, put a pin in it. Need a catchphrase like Kaplowey. Or a chorus of kids that say it together sort of. Like a creepy yeah. Put a pin in it. You need a catcher race like a plowey. Or a horse of kids that say it together sort of. Oh, like a creepy cat.

What a pain in it. Yeah, a children of the corn kind of. Yeah. Or what does Jessica Fletcher say? Andrew told me, I couldn't help but notice. That's what, that's a phrase for a murder she wrote. Okay, I like that. And a British accent.

So, I don't, I'm not gonna do that. don't know, I'm not going to do that. But anyway, Vanderswan knows sensitive information. It could taint the investigation if it were made public through FOIA requests. So I couldn't help but notice. I don't know, I'll bring it up later. We'll try them on. We'll try them on. We'll try the episodes.

Our my favorite Dallas McLaughlin catchphrase, put some beans on it. Right. Yeah, I like that one too. So catchphrase, put some beans on it. All right. I like that one too. So this is important, put some beans on it. We learned Monday that Roger Stone, the stone, it's like the rock, but not as cool. He sent an email to Nunberg in 2016, bragging that he dined with Assange,

Julian Assange from WikiLeaks. Brilliant. So who's Nunberg? Nunberg is that crazy fucking dude that did a bunch of coke and drank a bunch of whatever he drinks? Probably whiskey, he looks like a whiskey guy. No, no, no, wine coolers. Yeah, he's a smear-knife ice guy.

Yeah, I see. Yeah, so he got ice straight before he came on the show. And he was going around saying, I love Roger Stone, he's like a dad. And he was going around saying, I love Roger Stoney's look, dad to me, he's my mentor, and I'm not coming get me, muller, muller. Yeah, I'm getting me. So anyway, he sent an email to number in 2016 saying, I dined with Julie and Assange. Well, so Stoney denies this, but more and more evidence is coming out that the stone was an Ecuador at that time,

and either met with a sange, because that's where a sange was. He was exiled or ex-communicated, or whatever you get here to run away, like Snowden's in Russia. You can't sit with us, yeah. Mean girls. But he was an Ecuador, and so Stone either met with him, or he met with him in person, or electronically, like over Skype or something Right more evidence is coming out indicating that so we'll see what happens there put some beans on it We found out that Thursday before last pop a doppelist got drunk again this time at a Chicago nightclub called hydrate Sounds like such a dish bad club It reminds me of a you know, Stefan on Saturday Night Live.

Like he rolls in and he puts his hand. The hottest club in Chicago is called Hydrate. Every booth has a giant water bottle filled with the nervous sweat of Paul Manafort. Like, and then just, ah, I just see Stefan. That's perfect. I'm like a Thai camouflage teacher with a mesh, arm, leg mesh, arm tag. Yeah.

The hottest club in Chicago is called Hydra. So Papadopolis is at this bullshit club, and he gets drunk, and he told someone that Jeff Sessions definitely knew about his contact with Miff Seud who told Papadopoulos about the Hillary Clinton emails, he remember. And Sessions encouraged him to find out everything he could about the hacked emails. Is that like his pickup line at bars? Like, does this a lot like is that his game like hey girl Yeah When we think hey hey girl

Let me think of one. Did you go half-season on a bail money? I don't know. Did you did you annex Kramia because you've been rushing through my mind on my I Love that or hey girl. I'd like to pop you in the Dopolis I love that. Or hey girl, I'd like to pop you in the Dopolis. Yeah. Pop you up. Yeah.

Also on Monday, we found out that Trump called Putin and invited him to the White House again. They spent a lot of time on the phone because they're boyfriend and girlfriend. So guess how we found out that he called them? The Russians? Yeah. Like always, the 12th time they've spoken and we've learned about it from Russia's state media. That's nice. That is.

Annoying how it started to discern what's disinvermatsia that we learn about it from. That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, in general. I guess. Yeah, it could be. I think we talked about something. Yeah, they could be making it up all the time. But I guess it was confirmed that the White House is inviting him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right about that. Yeah. First lumber party. Yeah. So they can do each other's makeup. That's confirmed fact right there. They can't that the White House is inviting him. Oh yeah, you're right about that. Yeah, yeah. First lumber party. So they can do each other's makeup. That's confirmed fact right there.

They can't braid each other's hair or anything, but you know, it's like, you're bald, yeah. Well, braid is wig. You have spray on hair, hey. Yeah. braid is. When they're in prison, they get to like corn rules, right? That's, he can practice.

Yeah, that's amazing. Garesta development. Oh my God. Oh God what we're using. You're using arrested development. Oh my God. Oh God, that was so funny. Like funny and arrested development when he comes out with a corn roll. Oh God. All right, then late Monday night we found out in a court filing that was in response to Manafort's motion to have the charges against him dismissed.

Like, he put an emotion like to have everything dismissed. Ballsy. Stupid. And, yeah, that's, I mean, I guess if you've got nothing else, like, uh, just miss the charges, I don't know what the, I wasn't, that's my position. You're just gonna come and dress as like a bunny rabbit or something like, I don't know who Paul Manafort is. I'm sorry.

Paul Manafort is not here. I plead insanity. I was a rabbit at the time. I was a rabbit at the time. I was a rabbit. So anyway, and Rosenstein wrote a memo. It showed up in this filing that Rosenstein wrote a memo last August that went into more detail about what Mueller has jurisdiction to look into. The memo, which was mostly redacted, was the secret companion to the public appointment memo of the special council. The public memo said special counsel can look into anything related to

Trump Russia and anything that arises from that. Right. And so they left details out of the public document because they didn't want to leak the game plan to possible targets and subjects of the criminal investigation because they could destroy evidence or whatever they knew where he was going or what he was looking into. Exactly. So in a move to cover Mueller and back him up,

Rosenstein wrote a secret internal memo that detailed everything Mueller had permission to investigate. Nice. As I said, most of it's redacted, but the two bullets that have been made public as part of this court filings say that Mueller can look into the allegations that Manafort committed crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's

efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election in violation of U.S. law. And Muller can investigate crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych. Oh my God. So this says some important things. First of all, it says that Manifort, the head of Trump's campaign, allegedly colluded with the Russian government to interfere in our elections. That's a mouthful right there. All right.

And we knew that, but to see it in a nice court document. So validating. It's pretty, pretty juicy. Secondly, it seems to indicate that collusion is a crime. That Department of Justice sees collusion as a crime at least in this instant It's instance at least as it relates to the Russian government and election malfeasance in this context It sees collusion as a crime and I'm not sure how they're putting that together. It's new though. We've never You know like we've always been operating under the assumption that collusion is not a crime. Right. But it appears in his infinite sexy justiceness that Mueller has found a way to make it a crime. And I don't know if he's compiling other laws and calling it this new thing of collusion,

like where he, you know, he might be taking a combo of crimes like not registering as a foreign agent or conspiracy against the United States or racketeering or the breaking of campaign finance laws or the computer fraud and abuse act like maybe he's rolling it all up into this new thing called collusion with a foreign entity. I love it. To interfere in elections. We've never had that before. Oh, we need it. Yeah, I don't see why I can't come into existence. Exactly. There's so many dots. I think what it is after a certain point like it's it makes sense that he's going to say this is unprecedented, but he has the authority to make it a thing, to say if you have five different Russian connections, that's going to now be collusion.

Well, I think the court does. He could charge Manafort with this new crime, or group of crimes he calls collusion against the United States, or interfering with the foreign entity in the elections, or whatever he calls it. And then Manafort could appeal, and it could work its way up to the Supreme Court where it would then be litigated. Oh, right. And then that would be the precedent.

Yeah. You know, or not. They might say, nope, that's collusion is not a crime. Right. Right. You got to do it on all these individual crimes. And I'm making shit up off the top of my head right now. But it sounds very logical.

Thank you. Yeah. Some lawyers going to be like, no, no, no. Life doesn't work that way. A.G, sorry. I really have no idea, but it seems to indicate somehow that collusion is a crime according to the Department of Justice, according to that memo. That's the whole argument.

Collusion is not a crime, no collusion. It's also important to note that on page 42 of the response to the motion to dismiss the charges, it states that the senior assistant special counsel in charge of the prosecution has internal authority to conduct the prosecution separately from his role in the special counsel's office. So what that means is that if Mueller goes away, like if he's abducted by aliens, the lawyer in this case can continue to prosecute the case without him. And I think it's Weisman in this particular manifort case. But it's not just Weisman because as it turns out, there's a whole bunch of lawyers in the special

council's office with that title. They can all do it. They can all take over. And one can assume that they would also have the authority to continue to prosecute their cases without the entire office of the special council. They could close down the whole office of the special council and these guys would be able to continue their prosecutions. It's like an army of mullers. Right, it's beautiful. It's like a clone themselves.

It's genius. I'm not sure if Rosenstein set this up or if Mueller set it up that way, but it's brilliant. It's like a built-in failsafe. Like he goes in and he's like, all right, I'm assigning this line of prosecution to you. I'm assigning this case to you. I'm assigning this case to you. You guys are all assistants to this special council and you guys all have the authority to act without me.

Wow. What? I love that. I bet I bet Manafort will sue. Oh, he'll try. Maybe like, no, you don't have that authority. I'm taking it away. On Tuesday, Vanders 1 was sentenced to 30 days in prison. The first guy in this whole thing to be sentenced. And he was fine $20,000. This is big to me as it touches my head. Oh yeah. The judge laid into this guy

because he was whining about his privilege. Like his... I don't wanna go to jail, my wife's pregnant, I'm very rich. Oh my goodness. I'm very tender, I have soft skin. I'm attractive, I'll get molested in jail. I look like Andy Dufrein. We all know what happened to him. He was popped in the top of his,

he's popped out, got popped. Yeah, he's popped out,, no, his Dop got pop. Yeah, his Dop got pop-up. And that's gross. Not that kind of sexual encounter. Pop-a-Dopolis is gross. I just think of his gross. Exactly, his face is gross to mine. You do whatever you want to do.

Do it. Just don't do it with Pop-a-Dopolis. Are you gross me out? No, it's like between consenting adults is fine, but not between consenting Pop-a-dopalice. Or pop-a-dopalai? I don't know what the plural is. Right.

Pop-a-dopalai. So anyway, he was whining about, oh, my wife is pregnant. She's having a given birth in August. I can't go to prison for six months. And the judges like, look, you know, I send people to prison who don't have families, or they have families, or they have children, or they have jobs that they're going to lose, or they don't have any money, or any number of reasons. Your cries are falling on deaf ears because he said something like, if I go to prison

for six months, my life will be shattered. And he's like, did Judge said something like, yeah, well, if your life will be shattered. Right. And he's like, you know, and the judge said something like, yeah, well, if your life will be shattered, if imagine your life is a glass and I drop it on the floor and it shatters, you have a very thick carpet. Exactly. Like, very good metaphor. Yeah, like if I drop the glass of your life

onto the floor, you have a big head start over a lot of people. So I don't wanna hear your shit, Mr. Privilege. I love that judge. Have a seat and go to jail. Yeah. You're about to know how terrifying, not at all, but this is meant to be portrayed

with any general amount of sympathy. Of course that sucks to go to prison, but when you deserve it, that's a different story. Exactly. But I, yeah, can you imagine being him and as privileged as he is, and he's just freaking the fuck out.

I mean, it is no jail. It's amazing. It's federal prison, but I mean, it is though. It's amazing. It's federal prison, but I mean, I have this feeling that there's a white collar prison somewhere like in good fellows when they're cooking meals and stoves and stuff. Plank, yeah. Wolf of Wall Street is what comes to mind.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got like a nice cell with a temperpidic and television, so you can probably listen to podcasts. Yeah, it's still America. America's on high. Yeah, you can go buy any bullshit. That's bullshit, Christmas is supposed to be the only place where rich, white people can be equalized in any way.

No. Hey, federal government though, if you really want to torch rim, put Muller She wrote and make the only thing he can listen to over in this. Yeah, it's really an idealist petition that. Hey, Vanders, what on the side? And only this episode over and over. Yeah, just this. On into internity.

Yeah, great. Doesn't this suck? Doesn't this suck so bad? So you can get, you can see Vanders won sentencing memorandum and his plea agreement in my show notes in this week's newsletter. So patrons, look out for that. Yeah.

In a pressur Tuesday, with three Baltic presidents, presser is what I call press conference. With three Baltic presidents, Trump said, no other president in history has been tougher on Russia than he has. That's amazing. And then, went on to say that he and Putin could have a really great relationship.

Two pros chilling in the hot tub, five feet apart, cause they're not gay. When you start in like a fucking space war and economic war and cold war against them, then you can be in the running for being the toughest on Russia, maybe. Yeah. I couldn't believe that. I'm the toughest ever. And all I could think was Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. I'm not a Reagan fan by any means. I think I was an asshole. Yeah, but that's a pretty epic moment. But you know, he was tough on rush. He was tough. Exactly. You know what I think it is? I think it's because Trump and Putin are friends.

He's like, Hey, you guys don't realize how hard this is for me. This is the toughest any president. That's probably what it is. Yeah. This is the toughest. This is the toughest I've been on Putin ever. That's probably what he meant. Exactly. He's being honest in his own way. Yeah. I'm gonna fucking hate that guy. Rod Rosenstein appointed an assistant on the Russia probe named O'Callahan, which just reminds me of like Dennis Leary's Irish drinking songs.

His title is the Acting Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General. Thanks. Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General. Acting principal associate deputy attorney general. Okay. Principal associate deputy attorney general. That's like the assistant number two president under secretary to the assistant of the special second twice or the assistant deputy of the guy. And I'm like, wow. So it's yeah, principal associate deputy attorney general, PADG, PADG, or PADG, they call

him the PADG. He's basically the deputy attorney general's right hand. And he replaces the guy named Robert Herr. Herr, that's Herr. Who was moved over to be the US attorney of Maryland. So that happened. I'm not really, I don't really know how much that makes a difference, but it happens, so I want to tell you.

Washington Post came out with a story on Tuesday saying that Donald Trump is not a target of a criminal investigation in the Mueller probe. And everyone freaked out. I freaked out, yeah. That upset a lot of people, and it pleased a lot of Trump and a lot of Trump. Oh, yeah, all of Trump did. Most of Trump. It pleased his hair.

Yeah. Everything but the face. The deep pit of guilt was still disturbed. There you go. So, yeah, it pleased him and his hair. Yeah, everything but the face. The deep pit of guilt was still disturbed. There you go. So yeah, it pleased him and his supporters. There have been a ton of pods and blogs and tweets and conjecture about what this means. So let me see if I can break it down for you real quick.

Here's what I've learned through extensive research this week. Last month, Mueller told Trump's lawyers that Trump is not a target in any criminal investigations. This is last month. It's important to note that the Washington Post report, the newspaper, the reporter, she got this information from the White House staff who's Trump people,

who heard it from Trump's lawyers, who interpreted what Mueller said. So it went through a Trump filter. Yeah. So let's look at three things that you can be in an investigation. On the far, far one end, you can be a pure witness. Okay? And that's pretty rare.

But that is a totally innocent person who has information pertinent to a criminal investigation, like a crime they witnessed. Yeah. Or no. That's standard. Right. Totally innocent bystander. That's a witness. So,. That's standard. Right. Totally innocent bystander. That's a witness.

So we've got witness. On the other end, all the way on the other end and the spectrum are the targets. And these are people the grand jury intends to indict. These are people that we are going to bring charges against. Yeah. Everyone else in the middle is a subject of the investigation. So while the White House, and then there's me,

who has nothing to do with it, while the White House, and then there's me who has nothing to do with it, while the White House likes to say, quote, Trump's not a target of a criminal investigation, it's also accurate to say, quote, Trump is the subject of a criminal investigation. Oh, yeah. So like six and one half doesn't like take, you know, take it and put it in context. So, you know, you can spin it however you want. Trump's not a target because they're not ready to indict him. It could be as simple as it's because they have an interview to me yet. Right. I'm going to go over this in detail.

In some of the theories, I have a lot more in a mini-sode called Mueller's Endgame. So check that out this week. I think it comes out. I think it's the first one. I think it comes out right now. Monday. Yep.

Go check it out right now. Go check it out right now. Go check it out right now. We'll be here That'd be funny. We're sitting here Monday waiting Just tweet us All right, so Mueller met with in question the CEO from Wiki Strat. That's a Washington firm run by an old agar which I like I feel like I want to call them all these from now on. Oh, yeah And he worked and his firm worked,

WikiStrept worked for the UAE on geopolitical issues, you know, UAE in Bissa. Right. Right. And that part of the story broke Tuesday, then later Wednesday, the New York Times reported that multiple oligarchs have been stopped and frisked at airports in relation to NATO

and his connections to Russia now and the UAE. So Jordan, Jordan, you're going to talk about that a little more in detail. I will. Because I'm so glad that all the gags are getting stopped in Frisk now, not just brown people. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. That's just, that brings us to Wednesday when Audi will broad your stone from an interview

on Info Wars came to light. It's been there the whole time, but somebody brought it out and showed it to everyone. Dust it it off because you know, I mean we all listen to Info Wars. Classic Info Wars. Mwap, mwap. And it showed him talking about the Hillary Clinton emails and the leaks. On the same day, he bragged to Nunberg in an email about dining with a Sange. Oh my God.

Oops. Of course, he denies it all. Even though there's photos of him and Ecuador from a sange's Instagram account, he took a picture in front of a building with an Ecuadorian flag and a sign that says, Republic of Ecuador. Oh my God. He might as well have held a sign. He's documenting his social life that important to like potentially incriminate himself.

I mean, if you committed treason but didn't it on Instagram, did it even happen, you know? He's done it so many times though. Like he's, he's an ex. He sucks at hiding. He just sucks at hiding. They're all attention hoars. That's their worst like, yeah, that's their downfall, right? Wednesday night we learned that Michael Bolton is facing,

not Michael Bolton, I'm just kidding. John Bolton is facing ethical conflicts of interest as the incoming national security advisor. No. Did I not say this last week? He's part of two. He's personally involved in two ongoing criminal investigations. You called it. The NRA, Russia Money Thing, and the anyway, just whatever. Dude, Jalisa, you're gonna break that down for us later. Oh yeah. And I'm looking forward to this because I really, I just can't wait to hear what he might or might not have to say for him. It's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. We also found out this week that it was 87 million users that got their Facebook data stolen. Oh my. 50 million. 87 million. The FTC investigation, Federal Trade Commission

Investigation is still going on. Facebook is on an apology tour right now. The the the COO or the sorry not sorry. Yeah, hashtag sorry not sorry tour Yeah, and she's going around saying we've learned our lesson. We've learned a lesson and that's really funny because you violated your consent decree in 2011 and settled out of court So not very sorry it seems doesn't seem like it third times a child I hope they go down like my space with less dignity. But what are we gonna have our discussion group on? We'll move it.

We'll find a place. Facebook hasn't even sent out a generalized message to everybody yet. But they constantly post about all kinds of random crappings like this. Yeah. Yeah, with their weird disproportionate human bodies. Yeah, today's burrito's on the... Yeah, tell them for sure. Share a bur bodies that they know. Today's burrito's on the, yeah. Yeah, for sure, burrito with a friend. Share a burrito.

I ordered a pizza from DoorDash, and they didn't deliver it to me, and they sent me a very apologetic. Yeah. Yeah. It was a promotion for FreePie today. I really had it. Yeah.

I was all of that. Yeah, yeah, FreePie. Oh my God. I was, I ordered at nine. It was going to come to me a few hours later. I had no pizza. Yeah. But then they sent, they even they sent out a mass apology email.

I got one too because it was late. They're all, but why can't they do this? Why can't Facebook just give us the courtesy of an apology email? Yeah. No pizza versus no privacy. Facebook should send us pizza. Oh, yeah. I feel like, hey guys, we got a pizza party coming.

I forgive you for everything. Hashtag sorry, not sorry, pepperoni. For you. I love it. Mushrooms for our circumvented, just personally dishig out ice cream cones for people. I probably would forgive him. That's the sad thing.

You wouldn't have to accommodate all the gluten free people and the vegans and stuff. But I do like that serves you right, Dick. So true. That he probably surrounds himself with in Northern California. All right, China released its list of products that it's going to slap import taxes on from the US, that you know, the whole trade war, or escalation or whatever that Trump is starting.

Because he said 50 million and they go, all right, us 50 billion, too. And then he goes, I'm gonna make it 100 billion. And then Stox tanked and we still haven't heard what they're gonna do back, but they put a list out of shit, they're gonna slap import taxes on. So we have soybeans, tobacco, whiskey, meat, and pork. What are the Midwesterners gonna do exactly? It's clearly strategically aimed at trump voters.

These are mixed with Midwestern farmers, meat farmers and rust belt and southern tobacco farmers. It's almost like China hired Cambridge Analytica to target Trump voters. Yeah. Oh my god. The tariff story really has nothing to do with Russia. I just I brought in Cambridge Analytica into it. Yeah. To me it does. We're chilling in California. Yeah. We're on phase two. We're like, what? Yeah, we're in our. We're like, what? Yeah, we're in our soy. So yeah, except for the fans remain that we all went to the coast for. Yeah. Yeah. There's that too. Yeah, all of our, all of the, all of the homes we left

are like, we're, yeah, that is fucking shitty. Well, these guys, I think these guys, these farmers, they are hardworking people. Absolutely. And it does take some brains to run a fucking farm. It can't be. And I've seen some of these guys and women too, all these farmers in the Midwest who are really backbone of this country, although I think California agriculture is pretty huge too. I mean, yeah, agriculture, generally, you're totally right. But I've heard, you know, I've heard them like they aren't down for this and it's not like

this is so obviously Trump's trade war. It's his tariffs. They can't blame it on anything else and I think that that'll show in November. I hope so. Yeah. Thursday something interesting happened. The judge in the Manafort case filed a minute order. A minute order is a court's answer to a party's request, basically.

So this minute order was... I'm only going to spend a minute on this. Yes, you can. You have 10 seconds left. This minute order was in response to Manafort's motion to dismiss all the charges against him. So Manafort seeks dismissal for two reasons. First, Manafort says that Mueller should never have been

appointed at all, so none of this matters. And second, Manafort says Mueller went outside of his scope, even if let's say he was appointed properly. He went outside the scope of his jurisdiction when he investigated Manafort. And he was looking into all those things. He wasn't given permission. Well, as you know, Mueller filed that response

that had that Rod Rosenstein memo that was redacted. But it was that internal memo that detailed all the things that basically spelled out. What Mueller was allowed to look into. And for Manifort, as I explained, those things were the millions of dollars he got working for Yennecovich and the alleged crimes he was committing by colluding with Russians to metal in the election. So the judge dismissed the

second count. They're like they have a memo saying he can do it. But the minute order gives Maniford a chance to rewrite his request, his brief to dismiss the first count alleging that Mueller should have never been appointed in the first place. And interestingly, it says, quote, and that the defendant wants prospective relief, including an order and joining special counsel's future ultra-virus exercise of the authority and the appointment order. So, and that's mouthy and wordy. But basically, what it says is, quote, I want relief from pending and future indictments if you find Mueller should have never been appointed.

Wow. So basically, if you find Mueller should have never been appointed. Wow. So basically if you find Mueller should have never been appointed and then there's another indictment that goes under here. Gotta let it go. Yeah. So I'll speak more to this later in the show and a picture of the minute order is in our newsletter this week so check it out. Night. Trump floated the idea of replacing Jeff Sessions with Scott Pruitt earlier this week, but now he's saying he doesn't want to make the switch. Showing, first of all, he's not bothered by all of the allegations against Pruitt, which is- He never is. Yeah, but this guy is ridiculous. He's a new one. You're right. Yeah. And it's interesting because he, you know, he spent millions

and millions and millions of taxpayers dollars, taxpayer dollars just doing vacation shit, like obvious vacation shit that he's apologized for. And they got rid of Shulkin for going on a business trip and taking his wife with him. And they fired him for that. Yeah, even though he paid it back, right? That was the idea. Yeah. But then he also cleared it. And he also cleared it with ethics. Yeah. Before he took his wife on the trip. Now, he, it's a 40 hour work week he went. It wasn't a vacation like this Morocco thing that Prueit went on with all of his people.

But Prueit gets to stay and Shulken has to go. It's because Shulken was blocking privatization of the VA and Prueit wants the world to dock. Yeah, it's corruption. Classic corruption. It's, it's classic. This guy, this guy sucks my dick and you don't, so bye. This swamp, you know, the...

It's not fair, I think Shulken might have done it on, you know, anniversaries or birthdays. You know? Just make it feel a little special first. Yeah, and the other thing it shows is he's still toying with the idea of fucking with a department of justice air go fucking with the molar probe One theory is he wants to push sessions to resign Because if he resigns Trump can backfill using the vacancies act Which means he can just hand pick a replacement? So I think he's trying to push him to resign and I think maybe maybe that was another thing they talked about at dinner him and Noelle and Rod When they sat down there like dude, he's gonna be a dick to you for the next,

you're hanging there. Oh my god. Hang in there. You little russians possum. Everyone's busy. Just play dead. I love it. Digging through the trash.

You were saying everyone's been in that position at a time, at a time, at two? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At time and two. When you got someone that's just like, real shitty, that's a boss. And like when your boss takes you to freedom fast. Yeah, purr.

Peel, peel, is it? Yeah. You can't help but think of that. And just treat your like crap until you quit. Yeah, exactly. And you just have to sit there and it's like, well, do I stand my ground or do I endure all this bullshit? So they don't have to pay unemployment insurance. Yeah, basically.

Well, if you're in the the government you endure the bullshit. Yeah That's true. Yeah, you know all about that age. I do. I've endured some bullshit I believe in people turning their lives around okay. Have you ever listened to those Ted talks of people that were White Nationalists and they had hate tattoos and now they work for amazing organizations I love Jeff sessions could be that person good. He could turn around Example. Yeah, he could him and Rosenstein all of them really be great He should adopt little black babies from Africa, but the stuff he wants. He's a little suspect He could turn around. Example. Yeah, he could him in Rosenstein. All of them. Really be great. He should adopt little black babies from Africa.

But the stuff he wants, he's the stuff. That might be a little suspect. Maybe a little over the top. The stuff he goes against though is so old. Like, what would he do? Say, you know what? I don't favor Jim Crow laws. Like, that's a long time ago, but.

Yeah, you're right. Like, the white nationalist stuff, that's a little current. But what does he do? Like, all right, I won't mention anyone anymore. Well, it's progress. Thanks, Jeff. He's just old-fashioned. Yeah, I'll say it again.

Hang in there, you racist little possum. I never thought I'd be rooting for him to not be fired. Yeah. That keeps happening. But Mueller kind of depends on it. Mm-hmm. Oh, Lord. Then two crazy stories.

Crazy stories dropped on Thursday night. First, the Maclatchee report, I love the Maclatchee report. They ran a story that Muller armed with subpoenas showed up at the house of a Trump business associate confiscated all their electronic records and documents and devices and questioned that person about Trump's business dealings abroad. Specifically, they were asking about interactions

with Michael Cohen. Now, I think this was Felix Sater, or maybe Sergei Million, put some beans on it. Put some beans on it. Yeah. And I credit Dallas McAuthlin. Yeah. Where, because I think it was that,

because, and I think it has to do with the Trump Tower Moscow too. Yeah. Remember because that's when Sater and Cohen were trying to cobble together that deal for another Trump tower during the election Not the first one with a mean agalara off and his dad. Yeah running as an independent right that time Trump was running as a Republican. Oh, okay. Trump was never an independent. Okay, my bad I thought only when he was switching over his life What I was saying is there's two Trump towers in Moscow.

The first one was the Agalarovs, the singer, and the around the whole Miss Universe time. Yeah, yeah. The second one is when he was running, he was a candidate. As a Republican. He was a candidate for president. And at that point, Sater and his Trump's lawyer Cohen, were trying to cobble, like I said, cobble

together the deal with the VTV bank, a sanctioned Russia bank to build a Trump tower trying again. And Ivanka was involved and she was going to have a spa in the tower. So that's why Sator is a very likely person in that. Yeah. Because it said that it was a Trump business associate, it was somebody who was involved in Trump's dealings, property dealings abroad,

and specifically interactions with Cohen. So that's why I think it's sader. Yeah. Put a pin in it, put some beans on it. Put some beans on it. Whatever you want. I'll come up with something you guys. I like it.

Put a bird on it. Put a bird on it. Yeah, put some stank on it. Yeah, put some stank on it. Then in a court filing of warrants in the Manafort case discovery, part of discovery, we learned that Manafort was served a warrant as recently as March 9th you guys

for five mobile devices, phones. Yeah, cause totally innocent dudes carry around five phones. Yeah. Only drug dealers. And he had these in March, March 9th. And one of the warrant affidavits said, quote, information relating to ongoing investigations that are not the subject of current prosecutions involving

Manafort. So I'm going to talk a little more about the implications of that later. I think it's pretty big. Yeah. I just imagine it, like, when someone asks to turn over their guns, they walk into like a mob dealing They're like all right turn over your firearms. They put in one all of them

All of his phones like in their shrap to his ankles right in misconjeneality where she pulls She pulls shit all out of her Everywhere yeah exactly She's got phones got donuts in her bra. She used more Miss Congeniality clips. That's a great one. That's a great lovey. I love her. I love Sandra Bullock.

Do you imagine if Muller was a woman, that would be... It would be Sandra Bullock. Oh my god. 100%. She should play Muller in the all female version of the movie. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. What do you think?

Yeah, and all the dudes will be mad. Like, don't steal it. Like, you did Ghostbusters. And Star Wars. Yeah. Well, they came in cannon in there somewhere to you just that to be in everything 100% Melissa McCarthy wow the whole ghost busters gang is just gonna do the mood mood movie. Yeah, they have to yeah Anyway, that's sad. Yeah, interesting Let's see Friday now we're gonna go on to Friday. The US Treasury imposed some actually,

actually some pretty toothy sanctions, you guys, against Russian oligarchs. Much like the sanctions that the national security guys under Obama wanted to impose during the election, but ultimately did not, because Obama didn't want to appear as though he was trying to affect the outcome of the election. Right. Like these are sanctions on individual oligarchs, you know?

Um, included in there was Derapaska. That's the guy who sued Manafort and got private briefings out of him via Constantin Kalimnik. He's on the sanctions list as is Putin's daughter and son-in-law. And Jordan, you'll be happy to know Alexander Torshin. Okay. He's on that list. So know Alexander Torshin. Nice. Okay. He's on that list. So he's the guy, the NRA guy, the Russia guy who's like set you know Kremlin connection. Followed him. I mean.

I'm wondering if they don't leak dirt in retaliation for this on Trump and his family. Yeah. What do you think about him doing that? Because Russia can't really sanction our oligarchs. Like, no one's gonna be sad that we can't do business dealings in Russia, or around the, like, he can't do that, the way we can do it to him. Right, they only have so many options of retaliation.

Right, and I'm wondering if- They have some pretty intense ones, like, Pallonium tea. Yeah. Well, I was thinking they have a lot of compromise. Yeah, exactly. What did they start leaking that shit? Oh, please PpT Now we'll have to keep our ears out for I feel like as Trump is getting closer and all of his inner circles getting closer and closer To getting actual prison time and getting indicted and charged I feel like he's trying to and died it and charged. I feel like he's trying to seem like he's on the right side of history or something when he's sort of backtracking all of the things that he's done a little bit.

Yeah, it's a hell of a Mary move. I wouldn't be surprised if he even negotiated with Putin that he was going to do that or something. Just to make it look easier. Yeah. As a last resort. Yeah, maybe, or maybe that was a White House and the joint chiefs and the National Security and Intelligence community and Trump is telling his aides not to say anything. And he's yeah, because Trump hasn't said a word about it. Yeah, either way, it's kind of awful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So I'm interested to see what Russia does in response to this because we sanctioned Putin's son-in-law. What's he going to do to Kushner? If they underreact, that would be more of a testament to the fact that it was sort of calculated like they're waiting for something bigger. Or I don't know. If they under react to that would be more of a testament to the fact that it was so like sort of calculated Like they're waiting for something bigger or or I don't know Yeah, just like they're trying to put a blanket over it as much as they can so because ultimately if they're deal is The one that we talk about that transatlantic trade deal basically and they that's their end goal

Then if they could just get through this period and still keep power and be able to yeah, but I don't know Putin's main thing is sanctions. That's his number one fucking priority in the world. If his oligarchs can't make money to give to him, yeah, forcibly. Because he has so much 300 billion they think. Yeah, something like that. Is there a way like when he expelled or when we expelled 60 Russian diplomats and the erred spies and then said that they could just bring 60 back Do you think there's a sort of Under the table thing that I don't see anything. I don't see anything But I mean it's hard sanctions are sanctions and these were put on by the US Treasury

Yeah, so it's like you can't do dealing you can't do business deals Yeah, I don't know we'll see though like I said that's why I'm wondering if they're going to respond with something like Compromot instead of what else can they do? Exactly. So now they're not working together anymore. Trump is actually just trying to defend himself as much as he can. They're probably on the rise. Again, I don't know if this is Trump.

Oh yeah, that's right. Trump has been silent about it. Yeah. And he might be doing that so that he doesn't upset his boyfriend. I don't know. Yeah. To do, it in the hot tub. Then new documents obtained by Muller from Nader,

contradict Prince's assertion, that's not the singer, that the Seychelles meeting wasn't anything more than a chance meeting over a beer. You know, that's what I'm trying to say. We just found ourselves here at this, like, and where were they? The Seychelles Russian and Arab and an American walk into the four seasons. I heard it by total coins right or like one of those children's tunes like Russian cell like something by the station Seychelles seashells by the seashore

There's something there. We'll work on it. I don't know. Yeah. Say Shels, say Shels by the seashore. Say Shels by the seashore. Yeah. There's something there. We'll work on it. I don't know, but holy shit. Yeah, I'll just happen to be in the say Shels all at the same time with all the same goals. At least say you're just talking about something else. Well, so apparently Nader turned over documents that proved that's all bullshit. He did go there to meet with Russians.

He did, and we knew he did. We knew he did already. We've been reporting about the Seychelles meaning what since of November or December. But now we have proof, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's always fun. This is really cool now that all the things

we're initially reporting on are starting to just get filled out all the details. We're not totally creative. All of our predictions are coming true. Oh, yeah. It feels good. Also Friday, we learned that Trump is beginning to start to think about getting ready to maybe prepare

for a possible interview with Mueller. Okay. He has not publicly agreed to sit down with Mueller, but I'm still excited about this. Yeah. Trump, if you're listening, talk to Mueller, dude. We dare you. We're not, man.

They're still figuring out the technology of getting the microphone in his ear. There you go. Yeah, yeah, very smart. So there's a few things they could be the reason they could be doing this, Trump's lawyers. They could be testing Trump to determine if they're going to advise him to talk to Mueller at all. They may be grilling him to convince the president he shouldn't talk to Mueller, but probably

they know that an interview is inevitable. If Trump refuses, Mueller could subpoena him and force him to testify. And he looks worried. He can't refuse because of the legal precedent set in the Nixon and Clinton investigations. Thank you, Nixon. There's the law. God bless.

Supreme court, when all the way up to Supreme court, no, you have to do it. But then he could plead the fifth, but that looks really bad. Yeah. Though it may be the way to go for this president, he could convince his base and his GOP congressional Brown nosers. I do not recall to back him up,

saying, yeah, I don't talk to that bias and corrupt muller. Yeah. We back you up, dude. Say it, plead the fifth, bro. Yeah. Keep saying it's a trap. They keep using that as if somehow that's like a real thing to say about a president. That's bullshit. A perjury trap is when somebody on purpose gets you to sit down and tricks you into lying. Because you were already going to lie. No, that's different. Oh really?

So that's a real thing, perjury trap is real. Perjury trap is like entrapment. I didn't know that. It's like when you put a bike out that's not locked in your cop and you hide behind the bushes. Oh, you're right, they do do that. That's a perjury. So perjury trap means I'm a cop and I'm gonna sit you down and I'm gonna I'm gonna trap you into lying so that I can get you. Okay, but what this is is this is him asking Trump questions But there's no doubt that Mueller wants him to give him like because I mean as this whole podcast is indicating that Mueller wants to charge.

Trump, I would think, is that he wants to, I mean, he wants to get the truth, but it all points towards Trump. So I guess, you know, what Mueller just wants to hear whatever Trump has to say. He has to interview Trump as part of this investigation and he will. But I can't help but think that it's not a trap.

And I, people need to stop f'ing calling it a purgedy trap because that's not what this is That's you're you're insinuating Mueller is somehow gonna Sneaky gonna get him and it's like no he's gonna ask him questions and if the president fucking lies It's because he fucking lied not because yeah Yeah, I was gonna say calling it like a perjury trap should be a term that does not apply to a criminal It's like it's like the pregnancy trap. Like she trapped me with the pregnancy. Well, don't put your dick inside of her. Yeah, it's very simple. Oh, God.

Breach. Anyway, sorry. I get a little angry sometimes. Yeah. I don't have any children. Also on Friday, we learned that a guy named Schmitz, who sounds like something on your mouth. He got some Schmitz on your mouth. He's one of the OG members of Trump security council. Oh yeah. You know the photo with sessions and pop it up and clovus and Gordon and Trump and all them? Well, schmitz is in that picture too. And he apparently he was hunting for Hillary's emails

on the dark web and he eventually tried to turn them over to government agencies. So that came out. Yeah. And then I found an article in Bloomberg saying that Kushner wants to buy out and is going to buy out his partner in the 666 Satan tower property, okay, which is weird because Kushner is fucking broke He owes 1.2 billion dollars on that tower. Well, money come minus 500 million. So he owes

0.7 billion on that thing And he's been running around the world asking for handouts for like from on-bong bank in China and the Kataris Who both turned him down then he got that 500 million dollar loan from city group in Apollo I told you about after promising one of the CEOs. He could be secretary of the army. Yeah That's not nearly enough to cover it But we do know that Kushner might have leaked US intelligence to the crown prince of Saudi Arabia Which let which led Muhammad Somin to rounding up all the people in the palace that were a disloyal to the Crown.

So maybe there's some squid pro crow there. Yeah, there might be a little bit of squid pro crow. Super shady. Watch that though, where's he going to get the fucking money for that? Yeah, and what happens if he doesn't get someone exactly? He gets murdered. Oh no, that's a terrible thing to say. He's way more in debt. Yeah money for that? Yeah, and what happens if he doesn't get the money exactly? He gets murdered. Oh no, that's a terrible thing to say. He's way more in debt.

Yeah, but that's it, right? There's really nothing else other than that. Who are the people he owes? Like, are they mobsters? Are they being sold? No, he owes the bank. Just like American banks? Declare bankruptcy.

On the 66 Fifth Avenue property. Are you fine? What do you even? Library fines? That would just be tied to that. No, the $1.2 billion loan is coming due, like right now. Yeah. So, and he's gonna2 billion loan is coming due, like right now. Yeah. So, and he's gonna, would he personally

have to declare bankruptcy, or would it just be on behalf of the company? I really don't know. I wonder. It's probably, he's probably protected through LLC. Yeah. Could've just, he'll be okay. Take after his state, after his father-in-law.

I'm surprised he's trying so hard on this. And declare one of those bankruptcy is so. Yeah. I don't know, it's just, I think he's desperate at this point. I don't understand why he's doing it like, so you know what? He's in my head, I know it. I own a billion dollars on this building.

Why not? Oh, two billion. What's the billion dollars in my room? Aim for truth. It's like when you go to gamble for the first time and you're down by like 100, it's like, I'm gonna get back up. Double-earned.

Yeah, I'm just gonna make him go. Yeah, I'm glad, but he's doing this on fucking purpose. I don't get it. No, hand me a series, they hand me more debt. He's a rich man that's bad with money, which blows my mind. That's the whole family, is that way. Then you guys, really late on Friday night,

Manafort filed a motion to suppress evidence that Muller got when he raided his storage locker, and grabbed a bunch of boxes of files, like 20 boxes of files. And Manafort wants to dismiss, you know, he's saying, you gotta suppress that evidence because he's saying that his pal at the storage place didn't have the authority to let the FBI in.

Oh my God. I couldn't date him. Like, if I caught him cheating, he would just be like, well, how dare you invade my privacy? Yeah, he's just desperate at this point, I think. I have photos of the motion and what was in the boxes. I have lists of what was in the boxes and that'll be in my show notes this week.

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Okay, we're back. Thank you. Thank you for that was the longest news we've ever had. Oh yeah, good stuff. I wanted to make sure I explained it There's there was so many thing if I if I did just been like a minute order was filed and things happen Hey, have a nice day. You'd be like what is that even me? That's why we're here. We go in depth. Yes, I like to I just like to explain it my own way and so sometimes it takes a minute. I like it

Okay, well anyway, I'm gonna hand it over to Jalisa here She's gonna tell us about what's going on with Michael Bolton. I mean, I mean, John Bolton. Yes, John Bolton, our new national security advisor and half man, half mustache, has been meeting. He's been meeting with White House. She didn't run that job. I mean, that's a good one.

Thank God. I was hoping you'd appreciate it. You got me off-car. It's a good one. Thank God. I was hoping you'd appreciate it. You got me off-card. It's true though. Very big, very big mustache. So he's been meeting with White House attorneys about his potential conflicts of interest. So first of all, the job. I'm sorry.

No, I have to interrupt you. Have you seen the Muppet movie? I have. Yes, the guy. I know who you talking about. And you know, Flight of the Concord's guy wrote the music for that. Oh, I know that. And he won an Oscar for it.

Wow. But that, am I a man or am I a mupit? Am I a mupit of a man? I'm just like, am I a mustad? That's a sure thing. Am I a man? Oh, I love that so much. I'm a mustad of a man. I'm a very mustad-y man.

He's very mupit like, too. It's a good point. He is. He looks like the Swedish chef. Anyway, I'm so sorry for interrupting. I just, now I want to do that parody. Flight of the Concord's guy, if you're there. Let's call good point. He is he looks like the Swedish chef anyway. I'm so sorry for interrupting I just I'm now I want to do that parody Flight of the Concord's guy if you're there. Let's call me up happen for it. His name is Brit. Let's do it Very nice. So first of all the John Bolton Superpack has been a huge player and the early stages of this year's midterm

Elections. Yeah, very big so far they've raised $3.8 million including funding from this year's top Republican donor Richard Elaine 3.8 million mustaches. Oh, yes. I like that. This guy Elaine his company is worth nearly two billion dollars So he's the biggest Republican donor and and Bolton got him so I figure like we said before Bolton's hiding all that money And it's mustache. That's why he keeps it, you know? It only makes sense. I digress. According to CNBC, Bolton's packs are a cause for concern because even though they've recently stopped receiving donations, they still have all that money they've already collected and they even spent 1.2 million already on

political ads and polls alone. So they have very serious political spending power. That's why I watched a, watch dog groups like Common Cause have made bulletins pack spending budgets known to the public, resulting in several legal complaints to the FEC. Yeah, that's so sad that like four guys can make billions of dollars of donations. And then us, the people, we are capped at $2,400, most of us send $10. Yeah, we're in the red.

And, but still somehow we can out-raise them. It's crazy, you're right about that. Obama too, good example. But ever since... How are the people, how are the nations? Yeah, ever since Citizens United, though, it's since you can allow corporations to donate. So, relationships are people, my friend.

Well, then they should pay taxes. I guess technically they're run by flesh, but that's like, I know what you mean, but yeah, it's tough. It's tough for someone like me to hear that. So, all of the file complaints coincidentally are in retaliation to Bolton's PACs and their relationship with the political data firm, Cambridge Analytica. So yeah, as we... It's wall wall wall.

I never heard of Cambridge Analytica. Yeah, just a little interesting company. So as we've covered before, Cam Anna is a company under Majors Fruitany for gaining access to now 87 million Facebook accounts and distributing user data, user data, to the Trump campaign in 2016. user data to the Trump campaign in 2016. So in 2014, Bolton Super PAC spent $340,000 on quote, research from Cambridge Analytica, and then $800,000 more the next year. So they're really invested in Camana.

And meanwhile, not many people knew exactly what kind of research was going on there. So in March, we learned this March from the New York Times that Bolton was purchasing services from Camana for quote, behavioral micro-targeting with psychographing messaging, as we've mentioned in previous episodes, but the FEC has yet to acknowledge whether or not they're investigating Bolton's super PAC. So yeah, they clearly have some sketchy things going on, but we don't know what's being done about it. There are also questions about Bolton's role as chairman of a nonprofit group called the Foundation of American Security and but we don't know what's being done about it. There are also questions about Bolton's role as chairman

of a nonprofit group called the Foundation of American Security and Freedom. Sounds very Republican. Yeah, totally like a generator for Republican words. Yeah, it's like the same person that named the Patriot Act. Exactly, yeah, yeah. So Bolton actually stepped down from his post

in this group, Freedom Fist. He's not a cute boy. So Bolton stepped down from his post in this group in March and announced that he would take his name off the website this group. Freedom fist. So, Bolton stepped down from his post in this group in March and announced that he would take his name off the website this month and I actually checked today and he did take his name off. So, I guess everything's fine. However, nothing to see here. Exactly. Pay no attention to the man behind the mustache. Exactly. Yes. Ethics attorneys outside of the White House are pretty skeptical about whether or not Bolton's two super packs or two two PACs are actually even shutting down.

And here's the thing, I realized or learned recently that just because Bolton is starting to work for the White House doesn't mean that he's legally required to dissolve his PACs. Specifically the Hatch Act doesn't require the PACs to dissolve. And the law says federal employees, quote, may not campaign for or against candidates or otherwise engage in political activity, but it doesn't demand that political organizations be eliminated just because they were previously run by a current White House.

Okay. So people, so corporations are people except when it comes to the hatch act. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So a rep at the Office of Special Counsel said that as long as Bolton's pack wasn't raising or spending any money while he worked in the White House, it could still keep his name and would not be violating the hatch act. That's a bitch. Maybe that's what we should do.

Maybe we should form a pack. Oh, there you go. And then I can use my real name. A super pack, unlimited patrons. It could be any pack. Yeah, yeah. And then yeah, then I can use my name. a super pack unlimited patrons. It could be any pack. Yeah, yeah, and then yeah, then I can use my name Mm-hmm, and we'll be good. We wouldn't have to tell anyone where we get our money. You totally right there There's a loophole

We got that's the loophole. Yeah, the loophole does exist It just sucks that crappy people are making use of it because they have the best lawyers and the most money and they you know The government worker super back. Yeah, yeah, there are good rich people out there for the record though. Like four. Yeah. So, okay, just to wrap it all up. Sorry, yeah. I didn't know you're, sorry.

Continue. Yeah, I know worries. This is my last point. This is my conjecture of it all. So, we've got a federal employee whose name is also, or whose name is also on the name of a paused, I guess, super PAC. And whether or not they're currently receiving funds

seems irrelevant to me. I feel like it's called a conflict of interest, right? Not a conflict of incoming funds. So the idea is that, yeah, like the general idea of the Hatch Act is that anyone who's a high level official at the White House even should not be maintaining a superpack on any level and this guy here clearly has access. I mean, even if it's not accepting money right now, he can pick it right back up when it's done. And that's where it gets really sketchy. So, I mean, he could shut it down, but he could open it again.

So, like, why bother going through all that? Right, right. It just doesn't look good. I know that it's not necessarily illegal, but it's so bad. He doesn't look good for so many reasons. Exactly. Yeah. He's just a crappy guy. So, yeah. But that's that. Well, thanks, man. Yeah. Sorry, I had to make you talk about mustache, man. No worries. I made it better. I appreciate it. The stash. No, that's iron stash. We have to save that name for iron stash. I love that guy. Yeah, he's fantastic. All right. Wow. I mean, you know, you were right. The new national security advisor was already personally associated with two ongoing intelligence investigations. So we talked about that last week. You're right. Yeah. Absolutely right. ongoing intelligence investigations. We talked about that last week. You're right. Absolutely right. Jordan, you have an update on George Nader and how he's not just

UAE anymore. Exactly. Yeah. So, Mr. George Nader had established ties to the UAE that were disclosed and everyone knew about. But up until this point, he had undisclosed ties to Russia. Until now. disclosed ties to Russia until now. But also the Lee surprising thing. Betty has ties to Russia. Betty has ties to Russia. Oh, I suppose there's that. So Nader's a Lebanese just for a refresher course. He's a Lebanese American businessman.

He's currently cooperating with Mueller. He's not a target of the investigation, but he is definitely a super essential. He's got full immunity. Oh yeah. All right, no, partial immunity. I was gonna say partial. Yeah, he has partial immunity.

And at this point, it looks like Mueller's gonna start interviewing a lot of other people just to corroborate. What Nader is saying, which is really cool. Stop and frisk the oligarchs types of stuff. Yeah, that's just to corroborate what nature is saying, right? Right. Which is really cool. So that's the stop and frisk of the oligarchs types of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That's like a corroboration. Mm-hmm. God, he's so thorough. Yes.

I wonder what he's probably a thorough lover. Oh, yeah. Pleases, his partner. You know, he probably has horses, which is kind of annoying, but they're thoroughbreds. Yeah. Come on. No. So stupid. Yeah. Come on. No.

So stupid. My family has horses. Tourses are great. I have no issue against Tourses. Yeah. I don't know why it's so bad. They're a rabians to piss off the Republican. Yeah.

Yeah. I said, it's annoying in the Mitt Romney Dressage way. But it's the Mitt Romney Dressage way. That is the best joke, definitely. Thank you for that. So binders and forces. Binders and stuff. So basically,

Nader is establishing himself as someone that has been to and has helped set up a lot of meetings. And these are really important meetings that we've all heard about, and he's got outlook. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. A portion of a meeting about and he's got outlook. Oh yeah. Yeah. The poor shirt.

He's setting up meetings. For sure. More. That's a nice Microsoft reference. That's our sponsor. Thank you. Yeah. Somehow we're still in the red.

So for example, Mr. Nader used his super long standing ties to Kurel Dmitriyev, the manager of the state-run Russian investment fund to set up the meeting in the Seychelles. And this was between Dmitriyev and Trump advisor. This was only days before Trump took office too. Very fresh. Oh yeah. Yeah, but then the Russians, I met the Republicans, but it's the same thing. They're like, why would you need a back channel if you've already been talking to everybody?

That was what they were doing yeah, all right, so it was yeah Yeah, yeah, the purpose was to establish a back channel communication a Russian and American and an Arab walk into a bar Exactly. Yeah, this happened at the four seasons hotel Overlooking the Indian Ocean. I want to go there. I know it look. This sounds really nice kickstarter Yeah, I think a lot of the places where a lot of corrupt dealings are established would be lovely looking the Indian Ocean. I wanna go there. I know, it looks. This sounds really nice. Kickstarter. Yeah. I think a lot of the places where a lot of corrupt dealings are established would be lovely vacation

very amazing. Paradise. Yeah, paper seasons are. Four seasons are. I've seen one. Top marks. Oh really? Four seasons.

Right, grab two right into one's on tour. Amazing, right? Yeah, it's fucking nice. It's having shoulders above anything else. I've seen it with Ritz Carlton's and they're pretty good. Oh. And then down here you got your Maryots and stuff, but four above anything else. I see it, it rits Carlton's and they're pretty good. And then down here you got your Mary Ots and stuff, but four seasons number one. Yeah, I love it. They're going to sponsor us, I think. Oh, nice four seasons. So, yes,

they're meeting at the four seasons hotel, overlooking the Indian Ocean. That's one of the examples of some of the meetings he set up. Investigators of ass witnesses about a meeting that NATO attended in 2017 with a New York hedge fund manager where he was joined by Kushner and Bannon, who at the time were both senior advisors to Mr. Trump. Mueller's team stops Joel Zamel, who was an Australian entrepreneur with ties to the UAE. After he landed at a Washington area airport,

according to people briefed on the matter. The investigators questioned this entrepreneur about Mr. Nader, including Nader's relationship with Russia and his contacts with Trump's advisors as well as the movement of money from the UAE into the United States. Mm-hmm. So much money had to have gone from UAE to the US. Yeah. And the best part is NATO has it all. That's probably why he was given partial immunity. He has those information about that.

That's mega. Huge. Huge. Yeah, he's been working on behalf of UAE for a long time and everyone's kind of known that. And he really is just, he just pops up everywhere in between all of these. Then you wonder sometimes like, he's a huge missing link. Like these guys that do shit like that,

like you have to think eventually they're gonna be like, one day the jig will be up. But for now, party. And so now they're like, okay. Until someone connects all the tots. They're like, all right, jig is up. Can I get immunity? I'll tell you everything.

I feel like that's how they operate. That is it. Yeah, and right now we talked about talked about, he has partial immunity. So, I don't know, I don't know. I imagine Mueller's actually gonna do anything to him really. It seems like he's a huge asset right now. Yeah. He's in investigation, because he's fully cooperating.

You don't get partial cooperation for partial immunity. It's bigger than Flynn. Yeah. Because Flynn doesn't have partial immunity. Exactly. No one, he's the only one so far that has partial immunity. That's what I'm saying.

He has the most in my opinion. I'm guessing he has the most valuable information. I think so too, especially just about the big picture stuff because it's UAE and Russia. Yeah, and it's just such a history. Earlier that year, Mr. Nader, also, this is earlier, I think we're in 2012 here. Earlier that year, Mr. Nader also, this is earlier, I think we're in 2012 here. Earlier that year, Mr. Nader also attended

the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, which is an invitation only conference organized by senior officials close to Putin and Russia. Of course. They're so good at naming shit. They really are. Like, what was that vessel in that sky? I'd joint, she put together like the anti human rights

So see and right so everyone America loves some loves yeah They're effective. We got another land foundation of human right Yeah, I just credit where credit is due whoever's naming these groups is great We should come up with like a Republican PAC name generator these groups is great. We should come up with like a Republican-packed name generator. Yeah. That'd be fun. That'd be really fun.

If anyone writes code. If anyone writes code, it's absolutely, because I don't know how to do that, but that would be hilarious. That would be the freedom for a white American group. Yeah, no, no. It's not obvious. You can't be a subtle.

You can't be over-cated. Yeah, subtle. You gotta be like, racism is a subtle archery. It's the most true thing I've ever heard. You know, it's got to be like hardworking farmers of the Midwest coalition. Yes. Or some, you know, we need a name generator.

We'll get on it. We'll get on it. Contact me, coders. And this was a fun fact that I learned when I read this when I did some research into this that St. Petersburg International Economic Forum is Russia's response to the world economic forum that's held in Switzerland What sounds like him to you're gonna have a forum. I'm gonna have a forum It'll be even better. Yeah, yeah, no good reference. Something funny happened on the way to the forum. Yeah.

So, yeah. God, that's annoying. It is. That's almost hack. Oh, it's totally hack. Totally hack. Yeah. It's completely hack.

And it's just, he's so proven in Russia, they're so committed to just going against every established sort of, just whatever ethics, world order, or anything. They're very squid pro-crow. Oh my god. They're very tit for tat. They're very eye for an eye. Yeah. Body man of that, yeah.

And I'm always, I've always been, I think it was Gandhi who said an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. It's true. That's my whole thing. I agree. They'll never turn the other cheek, so. No. And they'll do an eye for the eye thing, but then they'll make up. It'll be based on a false premise. Exactly. Like, how are you Putin? I've seen interviews with Putin where he's like, Oh, well, the US is, you know, what about the US intervening in

our government all the time? And it's just like, you know, maybe you'd be woke right now if you weren't a fucking like human rights violating dictator. Exactly. He's all about what aboutism. So, I mean, he's never gonna give you a straight answer when it comes to his accountability. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

So yeah, basically, Interrapidup, Nader has super strong ties to the UAE and super strong ties to Moscow because he's essentially just creating the community. He's a communication link creator. So that's the continuation of the tale of George Nader. Nice guy. Nice guy talking to him, Mueller.

Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what? He's cooperating. Exactly. Nice to the investigation. Exactly, but not making a moral judgment on him as a person, just saying. It's nice that he's cooperating. I'm judging him the investigation. Exactly. But not making a moral judgment on him is a person just saying it's nice that he's cooperating. I'm judging. Yeah, he's the most yeah, yeah, fuck yeah, he's gonna judge. Well, thanks Jordan. Thank you. The nature guy is a huge get for the molar team and his his immunity's huge. Yeah, we talked about so

they should have baseball cards or Pokemon cards of all the people that are cooperating. Oh my god We should make them a Make the three cards. Trump brush approach. Trampage cards that have to be caught with polygrams. Oh, that's not good. Crazy with polygrams. They get all shiny when you don't have me. I'll work on this tonight.

Yeah. That's a high cost though. Molar Polkadek? No, with the, oh. Oh. Oh. 235. Yeah.

Fucking witnesses. All right, so a lot of shit went down this week, you guys, involving Manafort, and all those things lead me to believe that he is going to face super-seating indictments for crimes of collusion with Russia. Allow me to explain. It all began, it all began one day. It all began with Manafort's motion to dismiss charges. Manafort filed suit with two counts against the Department of Justice and Mueller to dismiss charges against him. Count one alleged that Mueller should have never been appointed, as we said before, and Manafort asserts that there was not enough criminality to justify an appointment of the

special counsel to investigate the Trump campaign to begin with. And therefore not enough to investigate Manafort. The second count alleges that even if there was cause to a point, Mueller, Mueller went way outside of the scope of his jurisdiction when he investigated Manafort. Well, Mueller filed a lengthy response, as we know, to Manafort's motion to dismiss the charges. And in this filing is a four- never before seen secret DOJ memo that Rosenstein wrote in August of last year detailing all the things that he was giving Mueller permission to investigate. We've talked about this earlier in the episode.

So the public special counsel appointment document was not specific at all. It just said special counsel can investigate Trump Russia and anything that arises from Trump Russia. But the secret memo, as I said, almost all of which is redacted, except for two bullet points about Manafort, specifically allows Mueller to investigate crimes of collusion with Russia and all the money Manafort made during the 10 year of victory in a COVID. Nice.

So that memo contains clue number one. Dindodum. Clue number one. It indicates that Manafort allegedly committed crimes of collusion with Russia in respect to election interference. And it also indicates the Department of Justice thinks collusion is a crime somehow.

We haven't figured it out. At least in this context. So there's no law of collusion, but conspiracy, racketeering, violating finance laws. We've talked about that. Exactly. Could all be what makes this illegal. So Manifort is being or has been investigated for collusion, but none of his current indictments include those crimes. They're all money and tax and all that shit.

Okay. That's clue number one. Clue number two, don't know that there will be super seating indictments for Manafort, was in a minute order filed in his case this week that stated Manafort's count two did dismiss the charges. The one that alleges Mueller doesn't have jurisdiction, that was denied by the court, likely because Rosenstein's memo clearly indicated

Mueller did have the authority to look at that shit. Exactly. But the judge asked Manafort to write a brief about Count 1 and it's due to her on April 11th. And she acknowledged that Manifort is seeking relief not only from current indictments, but he wants relief from future indictments. Interesting. Only a criminal would say that.

And a criminal let know he's about to get more crimes against indictments, right? So clue number three, Thursday night discovery of warrants against Manafort. All those, you know, they, it's court filing all these new warrants. It shows that Manafort is still being searched and as recently as March 9th, you guys, so what's that a few weeks ago? That's when Mueller seized five of his mobile phones. That indicates that he's not investigating money. Information. He's investigating his whereabouts,

because that's what's included in a cell phone. Yeah, oh, we mean like the triangulating and all that. Yeah, the cell tower pings. Such as, oh, I don't know, meetings with Kolimnik or Daripaska. You can't delete that from your phone unless you're a super nerd or something, right?

During private briefs, he promised that he can't even doctor a PDF, so I don't think he's so fucked. We're good. Yeah, yeah, he's not gonna be able to do that. But to me, the fact that he got cell phones was, and I'm just, this is conjecture. For sure. But they're trying to figure out where he was

at certain times. And remember when he was dining with Kalimnik and Daripaska landed in Newark and all that shit because he was trying to repay Darropasca, his debt for the Ukrainian cable deal that went wrong. So there you go. Yeah. Clue number four. I love it. Remember earlier when I asked you to put a pen in the fact that Mueller reminded Vanders one that he waived his FOIA rights? Remember, I was like put some beans on it or whatever.

Credit, Dallas McLaughlin. Because he has sensitive information, Vanders one has sensitive information on future ongoing investigations. Vanders one worked with Manafort and I think some of the information he knows could interfere with future superseding indictments for crimes of collusion. And I'm not sure a vandars one isn't cooperating in some way in the collusion case against Manifort. And we just don't know about it

because it's gotta be kept secret from Trump specifically. Yeah. I mean, he was only charged with lying to the FBI and he's only serving 30 days in jail. That seems light. It does compare to everything else that's been involved. Yeah, it seems very light. To be continued.

That's from the wire. All right. And many other things. Of course. Yeah. Basic story, but it's... Yes. Very pleasant. Yeah, anyway, so the final clue.

The final countdown. Parts of the warrants released in this week's discovery were redacted because they contain sensitive information from an ongoing investigation that is, quote, not part of the current prosecutions involving Manafort. Oh snap. So Rosenstein told Muller to investigate criminal collusion with Manafort.

Muller hasn't finished that line of inquiry, nor does he want to tip his cards by inditing criminal collusion with Manafort. Mueller hasn't finished that line of inquiry, nor does he want to tip his cards by inditing on collusion before he speaks to the main subjects. Not the targets, but the main subjects. Like DT Jr. Kushner, Trump, Ivanka, all them. Yeah, the big fish. Fortunately, Trump is likely to speak to Mueller because Mueller told him he's not a target,

which relieved Trump. And because Dowd, the only one of Trump's lawyers to Mueller because Mueller told him he's not a target which relieved Trump and because doubt the only one of Trump's lawyers advising him against testifying has resigned. Yeah, he's gone. And once Mueller speaks to Trump or perhaps just prior, I think we're going to see superseding indictments for Manafort relating to crimes of collusion with Russia. So mark my words, put some beans on it. Yeah, good case.

Yeah. That's what I think. Those are all the clues. Do you think he was not giving him all the indictments in the hopes that maybe he was going to flip and cooperate? That's going to be in the mini-sode. Oh, yeah. For a dollar. What?

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Thank you so much for listening. Alright, you guys, we're back. Are you ready for the fantasy and diamond league? Yes! I love every week, you're like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, what you want? All right, this week we need to remove someone from my fantasy and indictment team. Peter Smith, a GOP operative that was trying to find hacked Clinton emails on the dark web,

like Schmitt's was. We got some Schmitt's on your face. He was trying to find hacked, that, that, that, that, that. Actually, let's just call Clinton emails, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,. He also said he was in touch with Bannon, Kellyanne Conway and others in the Flynn. We go over him in this week's review of the book, Russian Roulette, so check that out. Well, we placed Peter Smith on our fantasy and indictment team because of that and because he was listed in the minority report. Remember the minority report came out

that said all these people need to be looked into, that weren't looked into? Exactly. He was on there. Well, it turns out he committed suicide in May of 2017. I did not know that. I didn't know it either. Wow.

Until I read it in Russian Roulette. I'm not saying. Same. He left a note apparently, too, and it said, quote, no foul play whatsoever. However, he somehow ended up in the minority report. Interesting. As someone they wanted to more documents from.

Yeah. And the minority report was a couple of episodes ago. Right. I wonder. And this guy committed suicide almost a year ago. It's just so strange. All right, you guys ready for sabotage? Yes. It's just so strange. All right, you guys ready for sabotage? Yes! Yes!

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

Yes! Yes! All right, you guys, this week Scott Steadman on Twitter, I follow this guy. He's great. He received a document this week that lists Putin-linked Olegarch Len Blavotnik as a VIP at the 2016 RNC. What? That's the Republican National Convention. Right. Mueller is probing his donations to GOP candidates and the Trump inaugural fund. Interesting. Yeah. The inaugural is hardward from the newspaper. It is. It's a tough one.

Sometimes too to think about. Yeah. Yeah. Still $50 million is missing from that effing a nod, girl. Maybe it came from this guy. This is one more potential foreign donor to the Trump campaign that could have funneled his money through the NRA or straw donors. So I'm adding him to the fantasy team. Okay. A straw donor is like an American who takes your illegal money from a shell company that's been laundered from a foreign government and then donates it to a super PAC or something else. Right, right. That's like, it's kind of like if you ever heard a straw man

argument. Yeah, yeah. It's like you stand up a cut out, a fake person, a girl. A little man. Yeah, that makes sense. Cut out. I like cut out. I like cut to.

All right, so anyway, that's the only thing that really changes that I'm adding that guy to the fantasy indictment, and you gotta, and here's the interesting thing though, when you invite, when you invite, when you indict Russians, there's no guarantee that they'll ever be brought to justice. Yeah, once the last time Russia extradited someone.

Never, to us, none that I can think of, not that I'll look it up But I can't they literally just don't they don't do that right? I can't I can't imagine there. They're going. Oh, yes. We'll happily turn right. Yeah There's nothing. Yeah, I mean yeah, after Every time one of their people would need to be extra-rated to us They were behind the orchestration of the crime exactly Exactly, yeah, state run hits all the time. Very true.

All right, you guys, let's go to question. All right, so Chris Jackson at Chalupa Cabra, that's my favorite at Chalupa underscore Cabra. So you can find it. Almost as good as poop easel, yeah, yeah. Poop easel is amazing. But Chalupa Cabra, underscore between Chalupa and Cabra, I just wanna say it all at once, sorry, I don't wanna between Chalupa and Cabra. I just want to say it all at once. Sorry. I don't want to say Chalupa underscore Cabra.

Anyway, he wants to know if Trump can just plead the fifth. Well, yeah, right? And wouldn't that make a subpoena pretty much useless? Legally speaking, yes, politically speaking, no. And it also depends on what people think of it. If you public, yeah, yeah, if you subpoena Trump and he comes in, if, well, first of all, if you ask him for an interview and he goes, no, I'm innocent, no collusion. Mm-hmm. And then you say, all right, I'm gonna subpoena you

and he goes, fine, I'll be there. Right. And then he shows up and then you go, hey, what about, he goes, pleak the fifth? Nothing to say. Mm-hmm. Then that looks bad. Right, but it's happened so often. So I don't even know what we would do if he did that.

Yeah. We've seen it done time and time again with all of his associates or some of them at least. And I just, I don't know, I think there's definitely going to be a tipping point where people draw the line and go on to the streets like never before. I'm just not sure if that would be the thing. It's impossible to know who would finally defect from Trump. Exactly. With all of the things he's done, the people who still support him, I feel like they're never going to not support him. Exactly. And we have to accept that because if you try to win them over and get every Trump bet to just see the lights, you're

you know, never going to get there. Well, we need his Congress is Congress Exactly do what you can but they're also compromise With with yeah, but well. Yeah, so that's our hope right? That's what we get an aim for That's why you donate to this podcast that's why you become a patron for a dollar you get all the free stuff and we donate to Seriously guys, it's a good thing. I don't know if the Congress. I'm gonna do it I can't just do this podcast because I want to I I have to make a difference. No, we're invested on a political level for sure. Yeah. And also him pleading the fifth too. It's not like Mueller's gonna ask him something

that only Trump's testimony held the key to corroborating or something. Well, the fifth is right. Like the fifth is self-incriminating. He can't self-incriminate, yeah. But I don't think, I mean, he could ask him stuff about Kushner and junior and stuff and he can't plead the fifth for that But the stuff about Trump himself. He could be the fifth all day. Yeah, but you could I mean you know if Melania divorced him

Oh And went on the record. I would interview personally. I didn't review Melania He'll pay her whatever he needs that a keeper quiet. You know, he will I was or he just tells her off because he's a fucking Massage and it's all that He's just like kick her out of the room whenever that shit's happening You know I'm on your side Melania if you happen to get a chance away from him Dude Melania if you testified against your husband the go fund me would be epic and you'd get so much ass And you would make so much you make so much money off of appearances

And just being so famous because you saved of the country. I be your biggest fan And you know that she's like as a Russian. She's like worshiped in her hometown. Apparently I think Conan or I don't know, someone like went to a hometown. I think that John Oliver, yeah. And then they have bakeries that have a big, big, big, good dedicated to Melania. Because the worst that she's doing is just keeping quiet, but she could be holding back for the right time.

I wonder. Well, you also have to think from where she comes from. It's not women are seen as equal. Political players and speaking. Oh, they don't seem as equal to men. Yeah. So I got your back, Melanie. Yeah, we got your back.

We got you. You can be on the pod for sure. Hell yeah, oh my god. You speak five languages, do you? I speak German. We'll be, yeah. Oh my god. You speak five languages. Do you speak German? We'll be. Yeah. That's impressive. I know that. I love that. So, okay. Eva Della Rosa asked if we can give some detail about how Muller can prevent Trump from handing out pardons. Well, listen to this week's mini-sode called Muller's End Game. But there's a few things he can do. Basically, what he's already done is work in parallel with

state attorneys general, specifically Eric Schneiderman, who will be in the sexy justice calendar. Oh, yeah. And thanks for your patience on that, by the way, for you guys who have pledged at that level. We ran into some licensing issues when we were creating it, but we'll have them very soon at the end of the month. Absolutely.

Guilt free. It's going to be the best part. It'll be worth the wait, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. So anyway, thank you for waiting for that But yeah, listen to the end game episode. I opt to know that you're a patron so you'll be able to hear it Jeannie at Nick's Rocks said has anyone seen Kelly and Conway? It's been weeks since she's been on TV Although I don't watch Fox. Ha ha. Yeah, She can't be innocent in any of this, can she? No way.

She broke the hat-checked already. She didn't care. No one did anything about it. That's not part of Mueller stuff, though. True. But what do you think she's up to right now? Where is she? She might be kind of.

They might have put a muzzle on her, because she broke the hat-checked. Well, that would be progress. Yeah. Maybe Kelly, John Kelly might have... Might have said, shut her up. Yeah, yeah. He's, I think the only one left there with any...

So what's the thing? Any consequence for that would be great, but yeah, I haven't seen much of it. No, no. Well, I mean, when you've had the Hatchock, really the consequences you can get fired. But she's also apparently wrapped up in this whole finding N-Mails on the dark web shit with Schmitz.

Oh, she's involved with Schmitz. Okay. Well, according to schmitz and Smith But we'll see we'll see All right, she also asked by the way next rocks also asked if Trump's approval rating is really 51% No, it's down right well Rasmussen put out a poll. Oh, okay, but it's 51% now and Rasmussen is and put out a poll. Oh, okay. That it's 51% now, and Rasmussen is...

Never heard of her right way. Yeah, well then I guess we gotta count that too, right? It's not even, it's like... No, no, no, no. No, over 50% and it's a super right way. You can do what Pew research does. Yeah. Or the poll of polls, which is they take all the polls and average it out.

Right, but amongst Trump supporters, 51% is not that good. It's not just Trump supporters. Oh, it's everyone they call. Well, okay. It's a post-presentation. Let me tell you what, it's impossible to say who's in that, but it's a right wing pole. Okay. It is actual approval rating somewhere around 42%. Yeah, okay, okay.

I would be willing to, I mean CNN Poles are like left leaning poles. Yeah, I guess those are the ones I was thinking of that were in the 30. So 40 sounds fair. It's right between what the right claims and the left claim. 42 is the polar poles. That makes sense. The polar poles. The polar poles.

Where they take all the poles, including Rasmussen, and including everything, it just moves and just all together. That sounds fair. Yeah. But they also balance it. They don't take 20 left wing poles and six right wing poles. They put a beautiful scope.

Yeah. Also clarification, I'm not saying CNN conducts their own national polls. Just the ones that they report on. They are definitely like left leaning for sure. Yeah. CNN does do polls, but they don't. Yeah. But they always say, this is just a CNN poll. All right. So, Katinka Inga Bagolvena, na na na na. At Katinka underscore Inga. Derek, I'd like you to meet Katinka Inga Bogovan in Na Na. Asked quote, do you think the Russians have compromised on Donald Trump Jr.? All right, well, with the new crazy sanctions on the Russian oligarchs, we might find out.

Remember I was saying earlier, like, what are they going to do in retaliation? Yeah. They put sanctions on our oligarchs. I was going to say we don't have any, but we do. But what are you going to do? Sanction Trump. Yeah. Um, anyway, we might find out that might be his response to release some of the. I don't know personally if he has any compromise on Donald Trump, Jr. Although he does apparently sleep with prostitutes and she's on his wife. So it wouldn't be unheard of. Exactly. We sanction Putin's son-in-law, right? So Putin might snap back at Trump's son-in-law. Yeah, you're

right. Like I said, they're very tip for tat so they, you know, maybe they'll let some embarrassing information go. At Samira Elvy wants to know if the sanctions are legit and if sessions is going to be replaced by pruit. You were asking this if the sanctions are legit. I really don't know. They look legit to me. I mean, a sanction is a sanction. It's the US Treasury that's doing it.

It's not just Trump saying, I'm gonna do it. At LE Cody or Lakodi asked, what will it take for Trump to resign and what excuse will he give? Well, before, okay, I would have said he would use his health as an excuse. But since Dr. Smileyface came out and said his health was incredible. And that his heart was amazing. Yes. That would be hard to do. Like, I thought he could get out of it. Like, I thought maybe

like a vodka could go on TV and be like, father is ill. Thank you all so much for understanding. Yeah. Enjoy your presidency with pens. But you know, if he was to, if he were to resign, he doesn't seem like, like Nixon resigned when Congress came to him and said, we're going to impeach if he don't resign. But if Congress came to, Trump said, we're going to impeach you if you don't resign, I don't think he would resign, because you have to have three, two thirds vote in the Senate to resign, and even after the blue wave,

we mathematically won't have two thirds of a vote. So he would say, that's why I'm counting on the Romney 9. Yeah, yeah. The Romney 9. Those are all looking guys that we need to really, yeah. Romney gets elected, Romney gets, all he needs is eight other dudes. Let's do it. Let's throw a little money towards Romney. Romney gets elected Romney get all needs is eight other dudes

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She's pretty fucking bad. I just like the, you know, she's like, women can do it all. And you're like, yeah, when you have a million dollars. With the main and showpers and butlers, yeah, no, totally nailed it. All right, if six was nine or at Al Smith 75146234, on Twitter says quote,

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To which I replied, quote, I bet Charlize Theron could pull it off. Did you see Monster? No. But I heard that it was an amazing movie. And she looks really bad. Yeah. She made her amazingly on target. Everybody has their price. It was great.

It was, she's an amazingly gorgeous person. Just objectively speaking. I'm not saying that that's the standard. But when you look at the makeup she did for the movie monster, it's just shoes have an hard time. I remember the images. I think they could make her do Trump.

I think it would work out. I support that so much. Let's see. Johnny Driesen, I'm going to go with a German pronunciation, said quote, MSW rocks, recommended to me by a friend and a colleague. This trio does a great job of boiling each week's worth of Mueller news into a format that's easy to digest, oh, sorry, easier to digest than the constant onslaught of

feces that is the Trump administration. These women are funny and savvy on the topics at hand and reliably prescient. Very nice word. That is, yeah. These define the investigations, course and actions. So it's amazing. It's amazing. Thank you. We always need new vocabulary.

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