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Episode Date: September 9, 2019

Join us today as we talk about new steps towards impeachment, updates on Epstein, Flynn, Manafort and Roger Stone, as well as an interview with a former Trump supporter turned democrat.

Welcome to Teacher Quit Talk. I'm Miss Redacted. And I'm Mrs. Frazzled. Every week we explore the teacher exodus to find out what if anything could get these educators back in the classroom. We've all had our moments where we thought, what the hell am I doing here? From burnout to bureaucracy to soul-sucking stressors and creative dead ends, from recognizing when it was time to go, to navigating feelings of guilt and regret afterwards, we're here to cut off a gaslighting and get real about what it means to leave teaching. We've got insights from former teachers from all over the country who have seen it all,

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and you'll get a free five-piece cleaning set for Mrs. Myers and Grove. That's a $30 value. This is Seth Abramson. I'm the author of Proof of Collusion, and you're listening to Mueller She Wrote. So to be clear, Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities.

I have been called a surrogate at a time, a two in that campaign, and I didn't have, and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for? I have nothing to do with Putin. I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So, it is political. You're a communist! No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest

profession I'm a capitalist. Hello and welcome to Mollershi Road. I'm your host A.G. and with me as always are Julie Sedgonson. Hello. And Jordan Coburn. Hello. How you guys doing? Good. Great. Good. You look good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Glowing. Doing the treat yourself. I am cleansing my gut. That's awesome. The weather's better. We're talking about that a little bit off here. Yeah. It is definitely. It's not 100 anymore. So it doesn't seem quite as humid either. No, it's just better back to what it used to be a little bit. Yeah. And you got your haircut. Looks good. I did. Thank you. Everyone in Seattle will see it. Yeah. You just have to take my word for it. Yeah. It's awesome. We have a big show today. The House Judiciary is officially starting impeachment hearings,

even though they didn't vote to officially start impeachment hearings. And we have some great news from a trusted source on that later in the show. We have an interview with a former Trump supporter who now, thanks to the kindness of Sarah Silverman on Twitter, supports Elizabeth Warren for president, his name is Michael Weissman, and we'll talk to him in the interview. And of course, we have an update on all your old favorites, including Flynn, Gates, and Manafort, as we gear up for the Roger Stone trial beginning November 5th. That's two days before we go to Boston and we'll also be in Seattle this weekend. We're hosting a second meet and greet on Saturday for ticketed listeners, so patrons, check your email for that link. If you're not a patron, you can become one for super cheap,

and you'll get both shows. Daily Beans Animal, as she wrote, just go to what patreon.com slash mullishy wrote or patreon.com slash the daily beans it'll take you to the same page. Also we have an indictment so stick around for the fantasy indictment league this week. It's been crazy but like you said it's not as hot anymore so we're all a little bit calm more calm than we were before. So but before we get to the news it's time for my favorite segment corrections. It's time to say I'm sorry. Oh, I made a mistake. Oh.

Okay, so I'll listen to responded to you, Jordan, your comment about not being able to go off the grid. Remember when you and Julie, we're having that discussion about how you can't go off the grid. And they wanted us to know that they use US citizenship and not our residency to tax us. So you can't never pay your taxes. You always have to pay your taxes as a US citizen no matter where you live.

That is like one of the things that makes it so you can't go off the grid. Yeah, they say two things are certain in life, death and taxes. you live, that is like one of the things that makes it so you can't go off the grid. Yeah, they say two things are certain in life, death and taxes. They do say that. Yeah, yeah, hackers are like, hold my beer. Yeah, unless you freeze my head, and then it's just taxes. Totally.

But anyway, I thought that that was an interesting point too, because I think you were talking more about, I think I was coming at it from an electricity standpoint, because at least in California, they don't let you go off the electricity grid. That's illegal. This person, Courtney, myazaki, is her name. It was telling us about the two countries in the world. I don't know what the other one is. Calculates taxes by your citizenship and your residency. So even if you wanted to go to New Zealand,

still got to pay US taxes. Yeah, interesting. Unless you somehow relinquish your citizenship. Yeah, can you, you can. I think you. I guess you just have to fuck up pretty bad. Yeah, could you give it to me like a migrant? Could you just give your citizenship

to someone else in exchange? No, probably. That would be cool. That'd be interesting though, yeah. Like here, like a liquor license. Yeah, it that would be cool. That would be interesting though. Yeah, like here, like like a like a liquor license. Yeah, it stays within the deal and give it to this. Yeah, you can have this. In college, they had like separate colleges within the main college, you know, and then they all had different sets of general ed requirements. And one of them was noticeably worse than all the others. And that was the one that I was in. Just like so many GE's is like ridiculous.

And to get out of the college that you were in, you had to find someone else from another college that wanted to swap with you directly for a one for one policy. And that'd be kind of cool. That would be cool for someone for so some trip. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like what I want to do with my vote, you know, because I'm just going to vote for whoever women of color support in the primary.

Who so far doesn't seem that they really support anybody but Biden, but I, you know, I'm gonna call it, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, I've heard that too. I think it's just for name recognition sake. The Obama name drop. Yeah, I will say though, for that migrant swap thing, they can make it a TV show too.

They wanna make money from it, you know? They're like, oh no, we don't to do that. Just make it a reality show, like, wife swap. Yeah, yeah. That's true. The immigrant instead of the oppressed. Absolutely. If that's what it takes. You're a citizen. Well, yeah. Let's make it decent though. You don't pick like one of the really sad stories.

That would be like exploitive. But someone that wants to be on TV. Yeah. Oh, yeah, let's make it happen. Yeah. Yeah, vote swap, life swap, immigration swap. Totally. Citizenship swap. Yeah, yeah. If your place is better than the detention center. We'll put it on right after Yacht Wars. Yacht Wars. Oh my gosh. Well, if you have enough privilege, you can make it in any country, it'd be just fine. Yeah. So, if you're a limousine liberal and you want to do some good for the world, that would be great. Absolutely. I just saw it.

Angelina, Angelina and Joey's kids. They're like adults now, practically. And I remember that she adopted a ton of kids, which is really cool. But like, if people could do that, I don't know, with people that really needed to. I mean, I'm sure they needed it. But like, just on a more, I guess, local level, that would be interesting.

Yeah, like if you have a big, big audience, they'll take in some migrants. Yeah, I've seen like Republic Control say this to liberals on Twitter, like, oh, well, you take a man. If I had a place, it would. Honestly. Yeah. And if the government paid me $775 per person per night to house them, make it a thing. I know it's a silly idea and I'm still in time not making sense totally, but yeah, I think that would be kind of cool. You're making perfect sense. Thank you. Don't worry about it.

And also another correction, the story about Indigenous people in voter fraud. That was North Dakota, not North Carolina. So thank you, Gail Nicholson for that. Though she says not to downplay the immense gerrymandering and voter suppression that happens in North Carolina. Right, right. As well. And then Neil Campbell wants us to know, after thoroughly enjoying our rendition of Cold

Warrior by our new band, Mumpsumus, that Dolph Lungren is still very much alive and recently played Amber Heard's dad in Aquaman. So he's around. Oh cool. He was a guy who played the Russian in Rocky IV. So he's a musician and an actor? Nope, just an actor. Just an actor? Okay, I didn't know at all.

I was just guessing. Nope. Mumpsamis is our new band because that's a word tweeted out by Miriam Webster three days ago and it's the definition is a stubborn person who insists on making an error in spite of being shown that they're wrong. Nice. I know why this is news to me, but I love it. Miriam Webster trolls on just the most epic scale. They're great. It's gotta be cool to be in charge of the dictionary. They put out beans related tweets every now and then.

I know I love that. I know. I'm thinking, hey, what's up, Miriam Webster? Yeah, yeah. Why don't you give us a shout out if you're listening. So, yeah, Dolphalon grinds around and Mumsum is so that's what a bunch of people on Twitter have decided the band that sings cold warrior is called Mumsum is I love it. I love you guys. I know they're so great. Dairy wants to Dairy wants to be sure we knew that Greta Thurneberg wasn't coming to the US across the Atlantic on a solar powered boat, but rather and Let's see, Imocha 60 sailing yacht.

Okay. A high-end yacht designed to race around the world nonstop, so you don't have to stop anywhere. There's no comforts on board, just a bunk, a camping burner to heat food, and a carbon fiber toilet. Um, this person also said that on a sea of podcasts, we are the Imocha's flying over this service, leaving everyone behind. Aww, thank you.

That's beautiful. But I, I'm pretty sure that the, that the boat had solar panels on it. surface leaving everyone behind. Aww, thank you. That's beautiful. I'm pretty sure that the boat had solar panels on it. Yeah, that's what I heard too. That's where she was getting a lot of her energy. Yeah, Greta is baller. She is. She's so cool. I loved that picture she put up on Instagram of the lights of New York she could see from

that. Yeah, sure. And finally, Jack, Mac Manaman, wants us to know that the way a New Jersey in pronounces Monmouth is Momoth. Oh. They do the same with Trenton by not pronouncing the N.T. Trenton. So thank you for that. I know.

Not a New Jersey in. I have no idea. I'll forget I'm sure, but it's nice to know. Because there was a Monmouth poll and while I pronounced it phonetically, he just wanted to let me know. New Jersey, Monmouth. Yeah, there's gotta be someone who has like a profession where they're an expert in all the accents.

Pointed out by Mac Manaman. Baron, I'm sure that we're probably saying that wrong too. Is it my monoman? I think of monoman. Yeah. Dude, dude, dude, dude. And those are corrections. So thank you so much. If you have any corrections from either the daily beans or from Mollershi wrote head to Mollershi wrote com click on contact select corrections and build us a compliment sandwich. We'll get it right eventually. We have a news. We have a news. We have a lot of news. So just facts. We have a lot of news to get to this week. Let's jump in with just the facts.

Okay, so Trump is doing Putin's bidding this week. Again, not only by delaying military aid to Ukraine by way of reviewing the program, the aid program, $250 million, but also by having Pence say in Poland that NATO needs to help Ukraine now because we've carried the load. We've done enough. He also says he has great concerns about corruption there, perhaps a nod to Giuliani and his Joe Biden conspiracy. And speaking of which, Giuliani says he has great concerns about corruption there, perhaps a nod to Giuliani and his Joe Biden conspiracy. And speaking of which, Giuliani says he met with Ukrainian officials about Biden's role in the Ukraine's dismissal, sorry, in Ukraine's dismissal of a prosecutor who investigated Biden's son. So he's just colluding in broad daylight now.

So other Western governments called for that prosecutor's dismissal in Ukraine. And there's zero evidence that Biden's move was inappropriate. And now it appears, they're, the withholding of the Ukraine funds is leveraged to get Jert on Joe Biden. And I'll talk a little bit more about that later in the show. We also learned officially that Komi is not going to be criminally charged for leaking his memos. We already knew that when news leaked about the IG report.

But the IG report came out. We had beans on that. And the Inspector General says Komi was reckless with out. We had beans on that. And the inspector general says, Komi was reckless with the information he had because he took it off-site and kept it at home in his safe. Oddly, the inspector general said he did that without permission, but he was the director of the FBI. So I would assume he great gave himself permission

to do that. And he did the right thing, considering there's really no rulebook for the situation he found himself in, where he was getting loyalty asks and being told to let the fling thing go, you know, lift the cloud, etc. Something that seemingly amounts to obstruction of justice, at least according to the criteria outlined in the Mueller report, into our Mueller special, and intent. I think thank you Nexus. Is the only reason I remember that one. Thank you, Nexus. Is that a hair thing? I'm gonna go on a day of the song called Thank You Necks

about her ex-boyfriend. Yeah, so Miller could have a Thank You Necks his thing, but I don't know how useful it was. Hey, Various, but also what are you? I think I can do a parody. She seems like she follows Paul's name. You're right. I think she could too.

That'd be really cool. What's her song called? Thank you necks. Next. Oh, I see. Thank you necks. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, there's great really cool. What's it called? What's her song called? Thank you next. Next. Oh, I see. Thank you next. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

There's great positive songs. Yeah, yeah. I like that one. It could work. I like those breakup songs. Yeah. Pink has one. Blow me one last kiss.

Oh. That's a good one. I like pink. She's so rad. You know what I think of whenever I hear Trump say, like, Flingo, or let the Flinht thing go is, what's that song? It's like, let my people go? Yeah.

It was featured prominently in Ferris Bueller's Day off of John Hughes film from 1986, where Cameron Frye is sick and bad and he says, When Cameron was in Egypt's land, let my Cameron go. And I do think of let the flimping go. I think of it every time too, so I'm think of that myth. Yeah, Trotlin' thing go. I think of it every time too, so I'm right there with you. Nice. Let's see here, in the Epstein case, a judge is considering whether or not

to release the names of over 1,000 people or so involved in the case that were named in Epstein's address book and in those documents from the Jew-Free Law suit. According to the New York Times, there's an unnamed man trying to suppress that information who I thought might be Alan Dershowitz That makes sense. I said I was gonna say because he wanted to release the Jew-Fraised stuff, but not all of it member he was like released it and clear my name, but not these things

Okay, but we already know he's sort of in there and it's already been released that his name is on the the Lolita Express flight log Dershowitz right there with underwear. Yeah Just says that right next to his name. A little dude ol' ol' dude. A little tidy whitey the Lolita Express flight log, Dershowitz right there with underwear. Yep. She says that right next to his name. A little doodle of a dog. A little tiny whiteies. You know her, right? Underwear on.

So it could be Alan Dershowitz. It could be any of the thousand people. Supposedly it's got, it's somebody who doesn't have anything to do with the case. I don't know, I haven't verified that. But the unnamed man doesn't want his or the rest of the names to get out because it could damage their reputation. Yeah, right. But underage like sorry children will do that right. Go figure. Yeah. So the

records are part of the Jufrey 2015 defamation suit against Jizz Lane as we've said. I know it's Jolaine or Golan or whatever. Actually, I don't know what it is. Jizz Lane is her name. Yeah, I heard in PRCA once, but I can't get Jizz Lane on my head now. They said it the right way, but I can't know what it is. Jizz Lane, is her name. Yeah, I heard NPR say it once, but I can't get Jizz Lane out of my head now. So, Jizz Lane. Jizz Lane, they said it the right way, but I can't. It was something like that, yeah. Jellain or Gellain.

Yeah. Life in the Jizz Lane. I don't know, I don't know. I'm gonna need a new one. Five, Mumpsimus. Nice. Mumpsimus Rex. Yeah, you got an old.

I think now I'm now. I know. All right, here we're ready to down. Life in the Jizz Lane. And Cold Warrior and Cold Warrior. Cold Warrior. Beautiful. Cold Warrior by Mumsumus Rex.

I like Rattich, I don't know why I want to add the X-Rex to the X-Rex. And thank you Nexus on that bonus. And thank you Nexus. Nexus. All right, cool. So now we have three songs on our short coming soon to be released, EP. Very cool. I'm Mumsumus Rex. We can be like a liberal version of those three Trump supporting ladies. three songs on our short coming soon to be released EP. Very cool.

I'm so much for it. We can be like a liberal version of those three Trump supporting ladies. Have you seen them? I have. I showed you a video. They like the way they sit there. Yeah, they do like acapella songs just all about the worst

things in the world. Yeah. We're out of use your fuck. The wire power's a bad Trump. Yeah. Like, silly, man. Because we're strong ladies. And we man, because we're strong ladies. And we love Trump.

We're strong ladies. If you don't live Trump, you're weak. We're strong. That's like, they're all strong. I've never made him. I don't feel like that's been made. Trump, you're weak. We're strong.

We're cold warriors. I got a download that now. I feel so bad. I don't want to support them. You don't want to say it. That's just a great impression. It's so bad. It also reminds me of the inaugural.

Remember when he had those little girls come up and they're a little red white and almost pretty much Tommy Laren yoga outfits. Oh, that's right. Yeah. To sing their little, I love freedom. Do you do? There's been flags of like sal their little I love freedom. Yeah. There's been flags of like saluting and I'm like sparklers. You see the Putin ladies, the Putin cheer

leaders. Oh yeah they're Russian. Absolutely. Yeah that'd be weird if it was like a contract and out from another government. And Ty Pussy Riot. Exactly. The Taint Riot. That's an amazing agent. Taint Riot. Oh God. Was Morkburn because he's strong. I don't believe you. Let's just make fun of everyone that's making that kind of music. Have we ever seen those women in the same room at the same time? Could they be the same? You've heard of Passies' Chicks Office Russian.

True. They're just such typical freaking, I don't know. Who taint, right? No, no, no. The Republican ladies, yeah. I don't even know how to describe them in a way that's not marginalizing the gravity. Grab them by the dixie chicks.

It's just, that's perfect. We'll call them that. Nice. Oh, what do we go from there? I don't know. Here's where we go. We're going to talk about House Democrats. They're doing some stuff this week.

They're going to investigate the Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal catch and kill Hush Money scandals. We know that from last week. Currently, there's one man serving time for the conspiracy, one man for a conspiracy, which is Michael Cohen. And conspiracies usually take two people, at least. Of course, as soon as Bill Barr was appointed,

the Southern District of New York investigation ended. I hope they bring Cohen back in, along with Keith Davidson, who I'm surprised is an NJL. I've had him on my fantasy draft for a while. I hope they question Weiselberg and Kalamari, along with some of the other Trump org execs that Cohen named after during his congressional testimony. We'll talk more about what's coming up for the House in hot notes, and it's big, and I'm really excited.

They're changing the rules, and I think you'll be very happy about it. So we'll get there in hot notes. Good news and the election news at North Carolina Judicial Panel has tossed out Republican gerrymandering maps in a unanimous decision, three to zero, citing them as unconstitutional and politically motivated and racially motivated.

The maps were drawn in 2017 by Republicans who wanted to hold a super majority in the state legislature. Lawmakers have two weeks to try again and draw new maps. The judge also imposed rules on this new round of redistricting and map making. The new map making must start from scratch. All map drawing must occur at public hearings with computer screens visible to everyone. And any consultants hired by lawmakers must be approved by the court.

Wow. The evidence that likely made the difference here was the same evidence that was that they were trying to use in the SCOTUS case, but did use in the New York case against adding the 2020 citizenship question or the census, the citizenship question to the 2020 census, the files of the now deceased Godfather of partisan gerrymandering. Tom, you call him Hohfeller, I call him Hohfeller. David daily wrote a piece for the New York Times, or excuse me, the New Yorker this week,

you should check out, it's called The Secret Files with a Master in a Modern Republican, Jerry Mandering, all about Ho-Feller and how he trained Republicans and operatives and legislators to draw district maps that used race data to elect Republicans. His files included detailed studies of North Carolina college students broken down by race and cross-reference them against their driver's license

file to see if they possessed a proper ID to vote. One of the clearest and most obvious racial gerrymanders is the line that cuts in half, one of the nation's largest historically black colleges, North Carolina, A&T State University in Greensboro. Republicans. That's the college in half. Right in half. Republicans have long denied the college, yeah. Right and half.

Republicans have long denied the line was drawn to dilute black votes, but with hollers, files, we have proof that it was done precisely for that reason. His files also include a map of the 2017 State Judicial Jerry Mander with an overlay of the black population by district. So it's got this overlay that you can put down on top of the map that shows where all the black people are.

Wow. Black voters. Yeah. Black voters. Black register voters. And let's see what else. Oh, he also had these data for North Carolina, Arizona, Texas, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Alabama, and Virginia, and emails connect Hufflepher to redistricting efforts in Florida back in 2011. Hufflepher's files were handed over by his estranged daughter, I believe, who did not approve of

what he was doing. Yeah, yeah. She said she used to actually really be fond of him because he was his independent thinker and raised her to believe that, you know, she could be the captain of her own universe kind of thing, but then she said he got really racist and that kind of turned her away from her loving father. Yeah, so she handed over all these files. And it was funny because in some of his PowerPoint presentations that he would give to Republican legislators and map districters and drawers and Yeah, so she handed over all these files. And it was funny because in some of his PowerPoint presentations that he would give to Republican legislators and map districters and drawers and shit like that, said, you know, be discreet.

Don't use emails. Emails are the devil's tool. Wow. The devil's on the AOL. Who's still on AOL? And yeah, here we have all of his emails from Florida and all of his files. He didn't file it.

He didn't file his own files. Yeah. And the whole overlay thing, I imagine, like, little, what do they call them, projectors, or like, the little screens where you can, yeah. We have all of his emails from Florida and all his files. He didn't file it. He didn't follow his own advice. Yeah. And the whole overlay thing, I imagine, like, what do they call them, projectors or like the little screens where you can, yeah, is that kind of what they would do is like make like little, like, transparent things that, like, kind of like a coding almost or a secret map. Yeah.

So in the file, you have a map and then you have this clear transparency over it that you fold down and it shows where all the black voters are in the district. That's crazy. People who are registered to vote that are African-American. Yeah, that's commitment. Or people of color. I know. And he even says in words, like we're going to cut this in half.

We're going to cut this black college in half to dilute the voters into different districts. So we continue to elect a better for. What a metaphor, right? Yeah. Um, it's a weird, that whole thing just makes me feel like now that they're doing it from scratch they should have like a you know how Google does the doodle contest yeah they should do it for gerrymandering so you who makes the best math most authentic math do you own research do you own race data yeah the fairest one or the least fair

the most fair actually the least fair we already have that done yeah yeah go that direction again seeing it yeah yeah just open it to everybody cute little doodles from five year olds, you know throwing little Jerry Mandel It might be what it looks like. We know Republicans can't touch totally that'd be a great beauty in the beast like mirror thing Right, that's uh the mirrors and beauty the beast like mirror mirror on the wall. Yeah, right? Or is that sleeping beauty? What is that? Oh? Snow white. Oh, fuck The beast but I forgot what it did. Yeah, well, I'm thinking we could have a mirror,

and it could be like, mirror mirror on the wall. Show us the fairest district in a wall. That's so weird. That's too long for the title. So the fairest district of them all. I love it. Not in North Carolina. Yeah.

That would be the magic mirror. Nice. Snow White. Disney loves mirrors. That's why she killed Snow White, gave her the poison apple, because she was the one who asked the magic mirror who the prettiest was. She always magic mirror. Nice. Snow White. Disney loves mirrors. That's why she killed Snow White, gave her the poison apple because she was the most ever time she asked the magic mirror who the prettiest was to always the mirror. That's not the one with the sexual assault that's I'm thinking of a sleeping beauty. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's not the one with the sexual assault. Right. The Me Too Disney movie. No one talks about. Hashtag me too. Hashtag's a me too.

Come on, consent to sexy. All you have to do with that. come on consent is sexy. I'll give you that yeah, that is true I guess you're cursed a PC. No, did he? Oh? Yeah, I think so. I want to say a PC version is he just goes up kind of pokes with a stick. Oh Slightly what does it have to be kissing? Why can't it be clapping? Yeah, wake up Yeah, I missed a lot of those broken. I think I got the bullet points. Is that like he I thought he didn't know? You went for it. Poking the stick seemed a little more decent. Well,

there are news reports out that he was actually in charge of writing the curse so that he could actually kiss or to wake her up, which she was sleeping. That's interesting. Yeah, I gotta go back and rewatch these. Make it. That's not real. Yeah, I wouldn't even know send me emails. Not you. Yeah, I gotta go back and rewatch these. Make it. That's not real. Yeah, I wouldn't even know. Send me emails, not your notes. Yeah, I've only seen the Lion King.

I gotta say. The new one, have you seen the new one? Yeah. Was it good? It was. I enjoyed it. Yeah. I like that movie when it came out in the early 90s.

Uh, let's see. Pentagon has approved the diversion of funds for 127 different projects to pay for Trump's wall. The one that he said Mexico would pay for, we knew that would never happen, but apparently his supporters fell for it. The defense, and now they're trying to defend this. The defense department projects at Blue's 3.6 billion and includes schools and daycare for military families. A daycare center at joint base Andrews and Maryland is on the shopping

block. Roads, maintenance shops, equipment storage buildings, and hazardous material warehouses will also not be built to divert the funds. An equipment building needed at Fort Wachuka in Arizona will not get built. And even though appointed Republican Senator Martha McSally, she beats cinema, but then when McCain passed away, the governor, Dushi, his name is Doug Dushi, we call him Dushi, appointed McSally, who lost the election to take his seat temporarily? And now she's being challenged by the husband of Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson, former astronaut. That's right.

Mark Kelly. And so he's going to beat the shit out of her. So I went before her, but so even though they appointed her, she promised no projects in her state would be affected by this. But now she's saying, well, this project was deleted anyway, so she's defending it. Also affected nearly two dozen projects overseas as part of the European Reassurance Initiative, ERI. That was meant to push back on Russia after its annexation of Crimea. Now, program was one of four things that the United States did to push back against Russia,

when it invaded Crimea. The four things were the European deterrence initiative or reassurance initiative, which is kind of a reestablishing of the deterrence initiative, the sanctions kicking Russia out of the G8 and military assistance to Ukraine. And he comes trying to undo them one by one. Yeah, he defended the Rehosharens initiative by diverting funds to the wall. He's trying to get Russia back into the G8.

We know what happened with sanctions, thanks to Flynn's phone. Calls to Kislyak, that he pleaded guilty to, by the way, and hasn't changed his plea yet. But it's common, I have beans on that. And then, of course, withholding the 250 million in assistance to Ukraine and according to Washington Post Trump is trying to force Zelensky the new leader of Ukraine to intervene in the 2020 election by launching an investigation into Joe Biden. It seems like he's holding these funds up as leverage.

According to some anonymous anonymous shortures. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, that's fucked up. All four of those things that we did, Trump, is either undone or failed to implement in the first place. Yeah, yeah, sanctions. That was the beginning of our podcast. And then, yeah, you got the EDI, they call it, that's the most recent thing, right? The EDI.

Yeah, yeah. And then, where were the other two again? It was G8. G8, yeah. Now, he's trying to really push that. And Ukraine, feeling to fund Ukraine. Wow, yeah, give aid to them. Let's see here.

Oh, Devon Nunez is back in the news. He's dropped a lawsuit and he filed another one. Jordan, you're going to cover those. Yes. In hot notes. Indeed. You are our Nunez reporter. Yep.

And former White House Council under President Obama, Greg Craig, was found not guilty of having two first names on Wednesday. No, just kidding. His one count of misleading the Justice Department about his lobbying work for Ukraine, speaking of Ukraine. His defense team for months has been complaining that Craig was charged to balance the scales and the Mueller probe. He was a token Democrat to be charged.

Remember when we, you know, who said that? His defense team. Oh, okay. Greg Craig's lawyers. Okay. Weird. He was the token Democrat. They felt like they had to get one Democrat because they had, you know, 300 plus felonies on Republicans.

Yeah. So they found the one. They charged them with two things. The judge dismissed one of those things and then the jury acquitted him on the other charge. It's interesting. Like, you would only hear the argument in a jury trial. the judge dismissed one of those things and then the jury acquitted him on the other charge. It's interesting, you would only hear the argument in a jury trial. I feel. And also, because the judge is going to be like, I don't fucking care, these aren't facts. Right. It's so funny to hear a white. I assume cis straight man to say he's tokenized. I'm like,

wow, I never thought about that angle. It's a Democrat. I guess you could feel that way. It's like damn. Everybody can be tokenized for some things. Everyone can be tokenized, yeah. Yeah. But as you projected, Jordan, he did get off on a technicality. I don't think the defense that this was a token thing to, you know, the token Democrat was the reason. Because the statute of limitations is the issue here.

And the judge told the jury they could only find him guilty if they believed beyond a reasonable doubt that he concealed a material fact about his Ukraine work after October 3rd, 2013. There was plenty of evidence that he lied before that, but the juror said they did not have sufficient evidence that he lied after that. So it was a technicality. Okay. He got off on, but that's the law. Yeah.

So you got to draw the line somewhere. Yeah. So that's what's going on with him. All right. Yeah, I was wondering if it was something like that. Still guilty of two first names. Right. You lied, but you lied at the red time. So it didn't lie.

You lied a week before you. And he didn't have a fair violation charge either. Mm-hmm. It's just failing to disclose stuff. Yep. Yeah. And one of them was dismissed because similar bucket. Yeah, because apparently he wrote a letter to the Department of Justice that wasn't an official

Fair filing that said he wasn't involved and so the judge decided that since it was not an official fair of fun They couldn't use it in this particular case for that particular charge. So they threw that charge out Interesting, but he definitely did lobby on behalf of Ukraine and doesn't deny it. So yeah, there's that Mm-hmm I wonder if people will come back with another lawsuit against him that's more specifically worded. So that those sort of loopholes and technicalities cannot be won by his defense team. I think that might be considered double jeopardy. So unless it was a civil suit. I don't know how you mean maybe a group of Ukrainians could

sue him for the wrongful information being disseminated about Timashenko. Yeah. But yeah, because I don't think double jeopardy would disallow you to try. Unless he was brought up on charges for failing to file, we know, under phara. Right.

Because he wasn't charged with that. So I like that double jeopardy category. It could be like two first names, 500. It's all just great. Just great. So in the letter he was saying that he did not participate in that work, right? I don't know what the letter says.

Oh, God. But it was misleading. God, I got it. To the Department of Justice. And he said he didn't want to file an official fair of filing because he thought it could hurt his chances to be appointed to a high-power job, a high-power position in a future Democratic administration.

And now he's former Obama White House counsel. And that's not a good enough reason, right? I mean, even if it is true, it's not okay, get to one of these. But he wasn't brought up on those charges, so... Yeah, interesting. Very interesting. And they can't bring him up on those charges now? I think they could.

That's what I mean. Something like that. Or like specific... Yeah, something that's more specific to what they know actually happened. Yeah. Unless they argue it's double jeopardy because while it's a different count, it's the same set of circumstances. Yeah. It's the same crime quote unquote. Yeah.

If you're just calling it a different charge and I think double jeopardy protects against that too. Well, to ask Andrew Torres the next time I talk to him, he knows all that stuff. Yeah. You guys will be right back in a minute with an update on the old gang, including Manafort, Flynn, and Andrew Miller. Hey, it's AG and I want to tell you about my new favorite shoes. They're called Rothy's. They are everyday flats. They look good. They feel great. They're sustainable. They pack well and they transition perfectly from work to whatever

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you can't use a grand jury for old charges, which is why we were assuming there'd be more indictments, super-steeding indictments on stone, or they were going to indict Miller. Though I imagine they were investigating coordination with Russia, and those charges never happened or they were handed off to the counterintelligence unit so over at the FBI, nor would they bring additional charges at because Bar was had been appointed. So I think it's all in the counterintell investigation now and if it's still being investigated at all, I hope it is. But Andrew Miller has been subpoenaed now to testifying Stone's trial for the prosecution. I'm very interested in what he has to say that we have to remember this trial isn't about

Russia at all. So yeah, and is he even credible, I wonder if he made it this far, I guess in this case, he must be. I don't think there's such a weirdo. There's not a lot of credible witnesses, but yeah, they'll think what they can get, I suppose. Yeah, and because you remember when Gates testified to Manafort's trial, and all the jurors were like, that guy's full of shit, piece of shit, criminal, full andering asshole money stealer, like he even stole from Manafort That's crazy Like to steal from the criminal to pick pockets Some of the cops here

Right Some it reminds me of like when you watch on cops like some guy calls the police because he gave somebody 20 bucks and didn't get his crack Yeah, do you ever see that one? No, I mean calls the cops and he's like a game 20 bucks. He wouldn't give me my drugs No, the cops are all go. the cops and he's like, I gave him 20 bucks and he wouldn't give me my drugs. The cops are all, we can't help you with an illegal transaction. Oh my God. So you're under arrest.

Oh no. Also. That's great. So that's what happens when you steal from criminals. Gates can't file a lawsuit against Manafort. Like I stole his laundered money. You can't. Yeah, yeah.

You can't do that. I want my laundered money back. You want my credit? Or Man of War couldn't sue him for taking his money either. You want my credit? And speaking of the old gang, we got a filing in the Man of War trial. As we predicted, he is fighting the charges brought against him

in New York State using the double jeopardy defense. Man of War lawyers also accused the Manhattan D.A. Sive Vance, a Democrat Democrat of filing a politically motivated lawsuit or politically motivated charges. A spokesperson for Vance declined to comment, but so they'll file their response by the October 9th deadline. My beans are on some of these charges getting dismissed

for double jeopardy, but a lot of them will remain because a lot of these aren't for anything that he's already been tried for. Right. And then political motivations is such a weird thing to prove everyone technically has a political bias. So it has to be really strong, not just some petty accusation. It does.

It's just because he happens to be a Democrat. Exactly. That can't be enough. In that case, you could see anyone for being a Democrat and having decisions. Are they intent to? Oh, yeah. I bet that's their plan. The master plan anyone for being a Democrat and having decisions. Yeah. Oh, they intend to. Oh, yeah, I bet that's their plan. The master plan is to see every Democrat in the world. Well, get so rich, guys.

Yeah. Like, God, unfortunately, your enemies are freaking good people that are not immensely wealthy billionaires. Right. Right. That's true. Typically. Let's just go on after Warren Buffett or something. Yeah. Jeff Bezos. Warren Buffett, it makes me think it'd be the rich because his name is like Buffett. He's like Warren Buffett. Yeah.

Please don't eat Warren Buffett. Oh, you can eat Warren Buffett. Makes messages, yeah. What is in the wrong way? And what update on the old gang wouldn't be complete without an update on Flynn? As we know, last week Flynn filed a claim that prosecutors were withholding ex-cultivatory evidence under the Brady rules in his case, calling Mueller's team's actions pernicious. So, they had a thosaurus that day.

And they asked the judge to hold the prosecution in contempt for not meeting their discovery obligations and complain that the government has not given his lawyer security clearance. Flynn also accused Mueller of putting excruciating pressure on him to plead guilty and then that they manipulated the press to extort the plea from Flynn. So there he's actually accusing Mueller of manipulating the press to extort a plea from Flynn. I wonder if this has to do with his son or something. Because remember when we came out on our very first episode and said, I bet if Flynn's son doesn't doesn't get get indicted, if Flynn Sun is let off the hook

then that means he's cooperating because they probably said, we'll leave your kid alone if you, if you, yeah, they just have to lose a bit of definition of manipulation and extortion. It seems like they're like, yeah, I'm a victim, but like to what degree really? Like a seven. Yeah, yeah. It's a little high. So to me, this is It's a little high.

So to me, this is a clear sign to me. This is just conjecture that he's gonna try to withdraw his guilty plea. I tweeted that out the day that I found out that he fired his former lawyers, not prosecutors, his former lawyers, and hired, then we later learned that he hired Sidney Pal and I was like, ah,

because she is a huge molar conspiracy theorist, not job. And Flynn says in the filing that the crux of his case I hired Sidney Pal and I was like, ah, cause she's a huge Muller conspiracy theorist, not job. And Flynn says in the filing that the crux of his case is based on anti-Trump texts between struck and page, calling it the government's most stunning suppression of evidence. A Muller prosecutor apparently sent the lawyers a link to the texts when they were made public last year.

And you're saying, what about the Hillary texts, you didn't they like, shit on everyone? Yeah, Sanders, Donald and Lloyd Shrew always sure if we're cool enough to that. If we were existed back then. Oh, that's true. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and this past Thursday, the judge had a secret X-parte hearing in closed session, meaning it was just a meeting with Flynn and his lawyers about the security clearance request from Flynn's lawyers, Sydney Powell.

But the court said in a minute order about the hearing that it intends to resolve the motion to compel production of the Brady material before it addresses the security clearance. Nothing else has come out about this. It's outside of what's in that minute order, which is just basically that. But there's another hearing September 10th. So that's tomorrow, a couple days from now. But yeah, I just thought it was really interesting that they're like stunning suppression of evidence in the struck page text. And I'm like, they were made public. Yeah, it sounds click baity. By like, and they, I guess they didn't like the, kind of snarky, that they're like, we need these texts and they just sent a link to the public disclosure

of the texts. Yeah. Maybe they felt that that was a little bit snarky. And what if, okay, I'm just saying, what if we release the text messages of the people that are accusing struck, and you know, of something. Oh, they are text messages.

Yeah, I'm like, cause they're in positions of power too and they could be accused of having bias in this whole thing. So let's see what they've been texting about Peter's drunk. I'm sure there's a FOIA request in for it. Oh yeah, and if not, that should be our like call to action today. Everybody's submit a FOIA request. For all these assholes, text messages. I haven't even looked at the FOIA request documents,

but it's probably a pay-and-the-ass. Yeah, yeah. And if it works, I'll send mine out too. You can get a bunch of news, but I think it's worth a sacrifice. So, too. So put some beans on him with drawing his guilty plea. I think that's where it's going. They're gearing up to say that he was forced to plead guilty and that the documents that he filed weren't, you know,

were signed by his lawyer and he didn't get a chance to read them and that they coerced him and extorted him by manipulating the media. That's going to be their whole defense. Yeah, that's a bit of a stretch, but I mean so much privilege I feel like they might actually believe they have a shy. Yeah, and I'm wondering if he'll be brought up on the charges That he was never brought up on in the first place, but of course bars and charge of whether or not that happens So it's right. Oh my god. I think it's so messy right now. It is. Yeah, and then there's frickin impeachment proceedings going on on the other side It's just like so frickin non-congruant and messed up.

I feel like a lot of this is going to be postponed until after the election. And we have a new department of justice so that you don't file and fail. And then you can't file again because of double jeopardy. So I think maybe there makes total sin. That's just putting some beans on that. And on top of that, if not just for that reason, they could use the excuse of, I don't want to interfere with an election. So we're on a process for now, just like Comey did,

right, or the FBI did with certain things. Well, Comey did the opposite of that. Right, right. Yeah, okay. So the FBI. Yes, yes, exactly. We're just like they did the Democrat to the Supreme Court pick.

Totally. Yeah, and there's a new lawsuit filed in that too. There's a group of people who are suing McConnell and Grassley for basically Can't they want them to be found in contempt of the Constitution for not holding confirmation hearings on Merrick Garland Wow, that's interesting. I don't know if that's I don't know if that's a brain-all-back reparations America, I don't know That might be like kind of a frivolous lawsuit. I'm not sure.

I've just heard in circles that it's like, it was so long ago. Yeah. There are so many frivolous things happening though that are going to court. I'm like, why not? Why not that one? But I'm also always like, what could we have done differently? It seems like a total violation of the Constitution

to not at least have confirmation hearings on a Supreme Court nomination by Obama because it's in the last year and a half of his presidency or whatever. Right. Even though McConnell has said that if somebody, if Trump is reelected or if somebody between now and the reelection retires from the Supreme Court or dies, that he would see a judge, even though it's in the, so it's, you know, we'd have to probably penalize you.

Double standard. You don't come down a Henry Reader or Henry Re, what's his name? The one that was in charge with when the first filibuster I think began. Oh, when he went nuclear on federal judges. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, different. Yeah, a different approach. Definitely wouldn't blame Democrats for that. But yes, he did go nuclear on federal judge ships. Yeah, yeah. And Mother Jones this week published a piece about new information that it had found on the mysterious $50 million loan Trump has never explained that could be evidence of tax fraud. There's a $50 million loan that he claims he owes one of his own companies. But that might that might be part of a tax fraud scheme called debt parking. So according to Mother Jones, here's what's known about the debt publicly.

On his annual financial disclosure forms, Trump has listed a $50 million debt to a company called Chicago Unit Acquisition LLC, a company wholly owned by Trump. But the company... What? Surprisingly, he just called it Trump LLC. Why is he hiding that one?

He got to name it something else. Some are breeze. That probably happens all the time though. That's just called it Trump LLC. Why is he hiding that one? You got to name it something else. Some are breeze. That probably happens all the time, though. That's just so confusing to me. How can you be in debt to your own company? The company, though, earns no revenue. That has no value. He listed it as no value.

But the company is owed $50 million, so it would have a value of at least that. Further, the loan type here. From Trump, though. Yeah, from Trump. He listed it to himself. What kind of circle fuck is this? It's really interesting. The loan type here is a springing loan, also known as a bad boy

loan, which is for high risk borrowers and allows the lender to impose harsh repayment terms of certain criteria aren't met. And those aren't the types of loans that you give yourself. Hmm. Okay. And debt parking is basically purchasing a debt through a corporation and parking it with the in andity to temporarily avoid realizing income. Debt parking is permissible as long as you intend to repay the loan so that someone realizes the tax. But parking it indefinitely with no intention of repaying it violates federal tax law

according to tax experts. And many think that's what's going on here. Even more weirdly, the transaction that Trump did with the lender was a discounted payoff and not a purchase of the loan. This is Deutsche Bank, which means there have been no there there may have been no loan to buy, which means Trump could have invented the loan himself and then parted it. So the question remains did Trump create a bogus loan to evade a tax bill on $50 million of income? Probably one of a thousand reasons he doesn't want us to see his bank records

and tax statements. That is some sketchy shits. And how long has has been in, you know, parked? Several years. So yeah, I was wondering what their like threshold will be for that. Determine like if it's indefinitely. I don't even think that there's a timeline. Like timeline. I just gotta decide.

They just say it guys. It seems like you're parking this. Yeah, he's really pushing it. It's called what a loan parking. Debt parking. Debt parking. Yeah. Debt in this. Yeah, he's really pushing it. It's called what a loan parking? Debt parking. Oh, debt parking. Yeah, okay. He's gonna get a debt parking ticket, eh? Yeah, for 50 million.

Yeah, yeah. Well, tax is on 50 million. It's like Monopoly, real life Monopoly. Yeah. Yeah, he's in that, what do you call it? Parking. Free parking, free parking. Yeah, there we go.

Yeah, he did not win second prize in a beauty contest. But he did have a patent. It only says, oh my God. Please go to jail. And this one's interesting and totally expected. Bill Barr wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal this week demanding an end to nationwide injunctions that in his word empower lone sympathetic judges. So, for instance, when a judge blocks a Trump rule that would ban Muslim travel or end asylum protections,

when he just makes these rules, bar wants judges to stop blocking those, saying it gives the judiciary too much power. Interesting. So he's like not talking about the power that the president is wielding, by not using Congress to- It gives the judiciary too. By not using Congress to share too much power. It gives a judiciary too much power.

Where are we going to fall when all of this is done? Like as far as the checks and balances of power and all that, how tipped is it going to be before we think we're doing an election? Because that's where we got to vote. We still have like 400 days. That's a lot of days. Yeah. This stuff moves pretty slowly. So I think we can

hold everything up and shore everything up for a minute until we vote them out, get a new department of justice in there. Get some rules, put, give some teeth to these ethics norms that aren't really rules at all. But it will have to wait until after the election for those things happen just because of if he gets freaking kicked out. I hope so. Before the election or after. Well, I hope he gets voted out. Yeah, yeah, because impeachment before the election. So that's like a wary when we, yeah, well, yes. And then I get wary sometimes when we talk so like confidently

that he's going to get voted out. Oh, that's you. That's why I'm afraid that if we don't at least try to get him out before then, then we'll definitely. But I mean, he's going to use the impeachment argument regardless. So the people that argue that we shouldn't give him ammo, he already has it. I don't want him to be removed from office before the election.

Well, a lot of people think that too, right? Because they say that the people should decide. Not and he can get pardoned by pens. Oh, so he can't get pardoned either way or like, okay. If he just gets out of office, then he can just get, you know, criminally prosecuted by any of these other states. The new Democratic president could pardon him, but it's a lot less likely than Pence. That makes sense. Pence would definitely pardon him for all current and future crimes. Yeah.

Do what Ford did when it, when, for Nixon. Yeah. If he gets impeached for sure, he would get pardoned by Pence. If he gets impeached, he removed. If he gets voted out, then it's... If he resigns. A lot of people are saying, and I have beans on this, that about 20 minutes before all, you know, election day, he'll resign. And then, pencil pardon him, and then he'll be voted out of office. Yeah.

That's kind of what I think is going to happen. Interesting. That'd be a very Trumpian way to go out. Not quite barricading himself, but still with pride, he can say, this is on my terms. The good thing I suppose, if there's a silver lining to any of this, is that New York attorney's general and district attorneys could still prosecute him because you can't Pardon stick state crimes, right? And what's his plan for that? He's got to be working on something

Defeating to Moscow yeah, but yeah, no, I believe it that would not be like shocking at all So yeah bill bar wants to limit the powers of the judiciary shocker And we just learned about another. The branch that he oversees. Well, no, he oversees the executive branch. Okay, because he is Trump's lawyer. Or the lawyer of the people, I guess, yeah. And then the judges are separate branch.

But the attorney general is looking over the Department of Justice. Right, but he has effects on. You do a cheery branch. It does have effects. Right, right, right. So like the Southern District, you know, all of the US attorney's offices, he does a lot of action. It does have effects right right right so like the Southern District New York, you know all of the US Attorney's offices. He does oh that would seem like a big overlap

Yeah, yeah, but then it's separate from the mate the top judges. I'm guessing big shitty van diagram Yeah, it's like one of those sharpy things that Trump would draw Like it's got so many different like parts to it. I imagine maybe it's just hard to explain what's happening in my head right now But I see the supreme court is like it's separate thing But then the federal courts being under bar. Is that what you guys are thinking? Yeah, so I'm gonna say to you It goes to the Supreme Court. Yes. It's to go through the federal court. Right, right But when you're so when you're saying judiciary, you're talking about the Supreme Court No, I'm saying there there are overlaps, but yeah, but you can't he's not he's more executive right then

Judiciary but all of the federal courts follow. Yeah, I guess I'm more mean like as a person and in his capacity of his role, he's supposed to be an advocate for justice in general. Oh, that's for sure. Yes, yeah, yeah. He's the top cop. Top cop, the big cheese.

The Hedgehog. He'll ever make it this soup. Never, not one chance in a million. I know, I know, I know. But his ship now is coming and he's in charge. the big cheese. The headhunchhoe. He'll ever make it this soup. Never, not one chance, not me. I know, I know. But his ship now is command. He's in charge. Boss, headman, top dog.

Big cheese, a headhunchhoe. Captain, number, flew this. And we just learned about another investigation into Trump that I didn't know about. And this is the military spending. It is Turnberry Golf Course in Scotland. Apparently, the international guard has stopped there a couple times on their way to and from Kuwait recently and spent their entire government per DM at Trump's property at

turnberry. Congress is investigating this now and was apparently tipped off when they noted the Department of Defense had spent over $11 million refueling at Prestwick Airport close to turnberry, 11 million since October 2017, which costs way more than refueling at a military base. Natasha Bertrand from Politico says this might be our military. It might be our military that's keeping Turnberry afloat, because in 2017, they were almost $4 million in the red.

That golf course, but in 2018, since all these military trips have happened, they're 3 million in the black. That's interesting. I would you guys could see in Jordan's face just now. Just the biggest Liz Lemon Eyroel of the universe just happened across the table. It's like, oh no. Yeah, so 4 million in debt to 3 million in the black.

Not sketchy at all. Not sketch. Totally sketch. I wonder how plan these things are. They're just like, free for all, go wherever, you know, Trump properties, or is it just a matter of, I don't know, like strategizing. It's strategizing. There's AIDS.

There's AIDS who are saying now that he's suggested, you know, that Pence stay at Doom Bag when he was in Ireland when he stayed across the islands. Yeah, yeah. From his meetings, which he had to take for us to back and forth to. Well, I mean, you can just look at where these folks stayed before Trump was in office. It was not Trump properties. Oh, yeah, some his meetings which he had to take her force to back and forth to I mean you can just look at where these folks stayed before Trump was in office It was not Trump properties. Oh, yeah, no, they didn't and they they have this in evidence all the trips before they stopped at US military bases Because they can refuel there on the cheap and it's free for them to stay there and it's you know Not out of the way on the way to Kuwait, you know

Yeah, yeah, even a stop in Scotland instead of, you know, our base in London or, um, sent comm in Qatar or anywhere else. Yeah, he might be milking this in preparation, like you said, AG, to either resign or just, you know, prepare to be gone. Cause he didn't do this before, right? He wasn't so actively.

I mean, he had people buying from his properties and staying in things like that, but this seems a lot more out there, right? I think he was, but I think he has been. We've just we're not finding out about it. Oh, okay. Through these investigations in Congress. Oh, that's what it is.

Okay, okay. He just has everybody stay there. Like people who are in our government, not in our government, foreign adversaries, like, there's just people stay at his properties all the time. But like, as a government employee, I have a per-dem for lodging and for food. And it's like $228 per day in certain cities.

I think mostly at DC was what I'm thinking of. And so the government pays that bill whenever I travel because I'm traveling for work. And so I guess what's happening, and I'm really interested to see the documents on this and what they're charging, because the people who are staying there in the international guard, one of them has said under, you know, cloak of anonymity, that they were, their per-dem's weren't enough to cover all the charges at the Turnberry Resort, and they were just basically the entire per-dem, per-soldier, or per-national guardsman was going or woman, was going toward, it was going right into the Trump property. Now, I mean, if Trump was like, you can stay there for free.

Okay, that's cool. That's saving us. Right, but automatically having it sent there like a credit or something of the sort. Like it's just their per-dem. Right, but saying it's going towards it and what way, how do they enforce that? I don't know, I don't know what you mean.

You're saying they are suggesting that they stay there or they're making their per diem go to these places or they're just staying there. And so that place, Trump's place gets the per diem instead of like a Renaissance in. Yeah, yeah, the money goes to them, right? But they're all they're doing is just suggesting they go right. They're just saying, hey, go to this place.

They're going to know. Oh, okay. But that's what Congress is looking into because they have said that it was suggested for Pence at least to stay at Dunebag and Ireland. So it's not unheard of that Trump is forcing them to stay at his golf course in turnberry so that he can instead of having a four million in the red year, he can have a three million in the black year.

Right, right. Surely he could just even suggest that they stay there because he can make cheaper rates or something. So then they could rationally explain why they would choose a Trump property like because it's the cheapest. Maybe that could be a thing that's happening. But usually the per-dem doesn't meet the what it costs

to stay there anyway. So if let's say a trip would cost the military, you know, $860,000, that's what you're going to get, whether you stay at a Trump property at a residence end. And then you use the money. I see what you're saying. It's more expensive to stay at his place, isn't it? Right, but the per diem is set. So whatever it is, if it costs... Like you're not saving the government any money because it's pre-allocated funds. But it's all going to Trump instead of somebody else.

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Yeah. So this week, we learned from NBC News that Trump is calling off his peace negotiations with the Taliban. He tweeted that he was scheduled to have a secret meeting at Camp David with the Taliban and Afghan president this week, even though that wouldn't make the meeting so secret anymore. But apparently it was so secret that Trump didn't even tell the people invited about it until it was canceled.

And the reason Trump claims he rescinded his hypothetical offer was because there was a Taliban attack and Kabul on Thursday that left 12 people killed and 42 injured, including one US service member. So Trump tweeted, quote, �I immediately cancelled the meeting and called off peace negotiations. What kind of people would kill so many in order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position? If they cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people, then they probably don't have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement

anyways.� However, the Afghan government said they were shocked when Trump dropped the peace talks. So as Pakistan, Qatar, or Qatar, and Norway, who were also big supporters of the peace negotiations, but the Afghan president did say their government has, quote, always said that a real peace is possible only when the Taliban stops killing people, except a ceasefire and start direct negotiations with the Afghan government. Also, a spokesperson for the president said the government of Afghanistan appreciates the sincere efforts of its allies in peace and its commitment to working together with the U.S. and other allies in the future to bring a sustainable peace.

So basically, even the Afghan government is pissed at Trump. They still seem to be hopeful that he'll change his mind about this. And a lot of other countries are relying on it too. So I mean, it's how Taliban is going to keep killing. That's kind of their, that was the thing. What kind of people Trump says? What kind of people do this? It's the Taliban.

Right. And also the US kills people all the time, not to mention. But I just feel like, sure, but to be surprised that the Taliban is one killing, not to say that it's, it's anyone should be killed, but this one service member versus all the other service members that have been killed. It's like what about this and take it? Since we evade Afghanistan after 9-11. Yeah.

Is it about the fact that it's during the talks that people are still killing or the Taliban still killing or during the week of 9-11? Like if he just trying to do it for optics? Yeah, but talk about the week of 9-11, he was going to sit down and negotiate with terrorists during the week of 9-11, which is also kind of a knife and a twisting on your soil. Yes, Camp David, that's crazy, right? And he tweeted in 2012, you know, Obama's going to be trying to put a deal together with Afghanistan and the Taliban.

Unbelievable. We don't negotiate with terrorists. That's so confusing. Yeah. And the Taliban just to be clear, they weren't the ones that actually did another one, but they were just going to say that. You're right to bring a month away. Just trying to be talking, they weren't the ones that actually didn't have a lot of money, but they were just going to say that. You're right to bring a month away. Just trying to be talking about acts of terror.

Totally. And the fact that they did help kind of, I think, like stop or hinder the investigations against Al Qaeda, right, when the US was going after Osama bin Laden. So they were, you know, assisting Al Qaeda, but no, they weren't the ones. It's still crazy that they were going to be here. Like, you wouldn't want someone that helped do one of the crazy. He didn't write that tweet either. Did you notice how well

well thought out that tweet was? That's a real point. Yeah yeah. He didn't write that tweet. Yeah, no there's no way. I think it was Steven Miller. Oh, geez. Yeah yeah. I wonder who all has the other passwords to that. And it hasn't been hacked yet. Even Jack from a Twitter got hacked. I bet there's someone who changes this password every day. Do you want to do those big long crazy passwords? Yeah. Kofafe24, I don't know. Just try a bunch of random.

Kofafe69. There we go. Yeah. At AOL, angelfighter stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, tweet it to your favorite. Yeah, Trump passwords. We'll just try them all. I do think that obviously,

peace negotiations are a positive thing in general, but I think it's, it is tricky when you're doing it with the group directly and not just the Afghan president because on US soil too, like usually you go over and you go, I don't know, like a neutral zone of some kind.

Something that's more symbolic around the whole thing. Go to the same shelves. Yeah, same meeting there. But here, and then also like you said, baby steps, start with maybe not the terrorists themselves, but someone who's working with the terrorists we're trying to, which the Afghan president seems to be trying to do. It's like he has a different relationship with them. Why are they all in the same room?

Yeah, I have no problem with the US meeting with the Taliban and Afghanistan to negotiate a peace and a withdrawal solution for our troops in Afghanistan. No problem with that. The weird thing is, is that it was a secret and then it was not a secret because he tweeted it out and that it was gonna take place on US soil and it was gonna take place the week of 9-11.

Yeah, yeah. That's just all a little odd and it seems like a smoke screen to me that you know, and I get it, you can add me if you want you talking about this you're just distraction I'm like that I honestly think that this is news even if it's just the news that it's a distraction or it just seems completely fabricated and totally made up yeah and it clearly wasn't treated tweeted by Trump right yeah that but I mean obviously he allowed it because he's Trump but it just seems like there's so many other things going on

For example like the Air Force stuff at Turnberry This this whole new thing that's gonna start coming up this week with the impeachment stuff, which I'm getting ready to talk about it just seems like Something like just to put something out there so people can go oh god, you know to overwhelm them and to not call it a distraction Not to not call it what it is would be a win for him You know for us to be so frustrated that we just not even mention it, that would be worse. Right. I could see him in his head thinking though,

the week of 9-11, I'm going to have some secret meeting that's going to go great for peace negotiations and I'll be able to come out at the end of it and say, happy 9-11 anniversary. I have solved global terror. He is. I could imagine. I wondered. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't put it past that being a thought that

Crossed like pale or Bolton be like not on US soil, bro. So maybe that's what happened Maybe he did plan it and then someone talked him out of it, but he never got around to telling the people he was Post-invite that it was gonna happen like that's actually plausible But I still also think that he could have pretend it to have the meeting the day that he decided to cancel it for optics the same thing It's like oh you want to keep bombing where I'm gonna pretend that I was gonna invite you guys to this place But really just for the same reason just to make it look like yeah, he took a stand be interested to hear from the Afghan president Yeah, well, yeah, and we we weren't I never got it in bite exactly They're really pissed. Yeah, oh did they say that? Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though they had no idea. I also think with the Taliban, I was listening, I forgot what program I was listening to. But in terms of their continued acts of violence, that's essentially their only political capital, really. Are these acts of violence? And it's kind of, I mean, it's usually

you agree to a ceasefire if you are going to negotiate. I think that's that's normal also. Totally. But I don't know. That's like that's the lit it like you were saying that I do. It's literally what the Taliban does. So to act like that's such a. Yeah, they're not like a typical.

It's awful. Obviously it's fucking awful and it's horrible and it's sad. But yeah, it's like it's not a typical. He's just the worst person to do this. And I get it. He's the president we have. I'm aware, but I also feel like it's so important to just focus on getting him out. Then it is to try to put energy into like making it so that like we commend him for for doing his best because it's best

to still really, really bad. And that's important to mention. It's not like he's just an average Joe. He's like less than average in so many ways morally speaking and financially He's like one of the broken people in the world or has been I just think it's crazy that he is the president But I don't think that's a reason like to just like I want to accept it It's so hard to be like well, I guess it's just tough and I know he wants to he wants a win like a military win and any president would but I still can't get my head wrapped around my keys in the room. I know. That's still crazy to me. I know. Get the hell out of this.

Yeah, like let's stop that. Like don't let it continue. It's hardly any qualified people that would even be in that room at this point. True. True. And we do know, like you said, Julie said, was Al-Qaeda that orchestrated 9-11, not the Taliban. We also, if you didn't know that, you learned it really well. In that debate, where Tulsi Gabbard took Tim Ryan to task

for saying, you know, the Taliban attacked us and she goes, dude, no, it was al-Qaeda. Right. Made him look like a total idiot. Yeah, yeah. It's a common misconception in America too. Yeah, Taliban was there before we invaded Afghanistan. Right.

You know, the whole, and again, I am totally fine with negotiating a peace treaty with the Taliban and Afghanistan, so we can allow our troops to withdraw. But it has been a Republican-free bumper sticker, if you will, talking point. We don't negotiate with terrorists. Yes, so there's that confusing point, and also him being the wrong person. It's just, yeah, the whole thing's a clusterfuck, but you're right. The main hypocritical is another big factor of it.

Yeah, I would be evaluating this very differently from various angles if he was a different person. Right. For sure. Totally different from what you're trying to do this too. Yeah, I'm not on US oil and not during the week of 9-11. Right. But, you know. Important detail, yeah.

I think it's a good general rule to not negotiate with people who 100% have committed exoterrorism on US oil. I think that's a good rule. Right, right. Or assisting in that anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, they have probably committed

a ton of things on US oil. But he's fine with what Kim Jong-un does. Yeah. Right. And Putin. So again, very hypocritical. Yeah, it's just an odd foreign policy that makes zero sense. So there's got to be some vein angle to it.

I understand it, turnberry. That's possible. He wants a big 9-11 victory, and he's not going to get it now. No, I don't know. He needs something going into the election, because the economy now, the jobs, the numbers came out for August. They were low, 130,000, apparently 25,000 of those are census jobs. So job growth has slowed considerably.

That kind of matches up with the yield curve inverting a few times and then closing inverted once and last week. And he's of course, he's blaming the Fed and Jerome Powell saying, we're just going to come from you hired him. He first fed share without a degree in economics. Thanks. And I've won had instant information for not raising rates too fast, etc. So if he loses the economy as something to run on, and he doesn't come up with something

else like invading a rack or starting war with a rack or some sort of peace treaty with North Korea, almost said North Dakota. So this is North Dakota peace, North Korea peace treaty, or something big or patriotic, he's gonna be effed in the A, but we still have to turn up to vote. So, totally. Make sure you're there. I'm hoping it's like one of the biggest turnouts. I was gonna say that's the plus side of all this chaos

is the resistance is trying to match it, but the fact that we are dealing with arguably one of the worst presidents for America in the history of America, like whether you're a racist or not, you're just bad for you. Yeah, I think even the pros of being like a racist from supporters not way out the cons of his idiocracy, like in every other area. So, yeah, just keep suppressing that education so nobody can figure it out. In case you haven't heard, the Democrats are going to vote this week on a resolution to change the rules of the committee and sources familiar with the vote are framing this

as the first step to impeachment because that's exactly what they did during the Watergate hearings. Of course, many Democrats are saying the phrasing was overblown and they're downplaying it saying this is just a tool to help them investigate. But semantics aside, setting up committee rules, mimicking both Clinton and Nixon's impeachment as a kind of a glaring clue. But to me, so was filing lawsuits. You know, when they said this is the first step,

everyone saying this is the first step toward impeachment, I think the first step was the lawsuits they filed invoking article one powers of impeachment. Totally. They've been on this for a while. Now there's been on this for a while. That's what I called opening an impeachment inquiry. Everyone's reporting that they're going to vote Wednesday, but since that's 9-11, I feel like they'll move it to Thursday or have it Tuesday. These rules that they're voting on include allowing evidence to be discussed

by the panel in closed session, which indicates the panel wants to protect confidential or classified information such as perhaps grand jury material. As we know, the Judiciary Committee has appealed to a federal judge to get the underlying evidence in grand jury material that informed Mueller's investigation. They've asked Barr for them, but he's ignored it. The rules would also allow Trump's lawyers to respond in writing to any evidence or testimony the panel receives, not a hint of impeachment at all.

But probably the best part is the panel is going to allow lawyers to question witnesses, like they didn't watergate where they had two lawyers one for the dums and one for the republicans questioning the witnesses instead of the five minutes a piece shit nice and if any of you know me you know that this makes me incredibly happy I was screaming for this during the molar testimony and they let me down though we wouldn't have had that Ken Buck moment, where that surprised us all when Mueller said, yeah, he could arrest Trump when he leaves office. Yeah, we needed that. And Mueller was just the primer.

I mean, I know it's like the whole reason we have the podcast, but it was really just the four plates of what's gotta come next, right? A big meaning. I would imagine. Yeah, and the five minutes of piece thing is just a terrible way to conduct an investigation. Nobody follows up with anything

because they don't want to use their time for anything other than their gotcha moments that they've tried to plan We still don't know if the house is going to vote on opening an official impeachment inquiry I doubt it since we have a ton of Democrats who won and rudder purple districts in 2018 and we don't want to commit to the capital I impeachment word right plus as we know a couple of months ago the house passed a resolution saying they don't need a full house vote to take things to court The committees can go straight there and that might actually apply to opening formal impeachment hearings, but it might not.

There's nothing into constitution that says you have to formally pass a resolution to open an impeachment inquiry. You can just start. And that's how they've done it in the past, though, is that they voted on a resolution to open an official impeachment inquiry. They could hold all these hearings without declaring it anything other than investigation. But as we've said, this is all just semantics at this point. In the last court filings, as I mentioned earlier, including the one for the grand jury material,

they use the word impeachment, saying they need evidence to determine if they're going to drop Articles of impeachment on the president. And we are invoking our full power under the first article of the Constitution, article one powers impeachment impeachment impeachment impeachment. That is an impeachment inquiry to me. I agree, and I feel like we're probably differing from the Watergate scandal in the sense that we're so polarized that they can't say straight up that they're formally

and doing it the way they did back then, like you were saying, because of the purple districts and whatnot. So they're doing the best they can. The whole thing might just be an informal investigation, but with the same results, right? It's actually sort of exactly the same, because you can call it impeachment if you want or not, but that's what it is.

And now setting up these committee rules, just like Watergate is another sign. And this is what they did during Watergate as well. The committee set up these rules two weeks after the Saturday Night Massacre. And the Saturday Night Massacre was October 20th, 1973. So early November, 1973, the committee put these rules in place, which is the one they're trying to pass this week. Then they held hearings, and they did not vote on an official impeachment inquiry resolution until February 6th of the next year, 1974. I was 27 days old. I imagine that's what will happen in this case as well. So put some beans on that. There

will be a bunch of hearings on the catch and kill stuff, the Mueller obstruction stuff, just one small part of it, a monument stuff, abusive power stuff like the time we tried to get the postmaster general to double shipping costs for Amazon who owns Washington Post. Hearings on Trump finances, with the Mazaar's Deutsche Bank of Capital One and his tax returns, that'll be in there. Then probably the inaugural stuff. And then of course this money stuff that we're talking about using the military to stay at his turnberry resort and things

like that. And then eventually, they may vote on a resolution to open an informal impeachment inquiry to October, November, summer, January, five months last time of investigations before they called it an impeachment. Yeah. And they had the numbers, or I guess the votes to actually remove at that time, right?

I don't know. Okay, because I wonder where that would fall in a comparison to now. Yeah, so that's just really interesting. I'm really, really excited that they're doing this, changing the rules to at least take away that five-minute thing. But these are huge hints. And to frame it exactly as they did in Watergate,

and Nancy Pelosi laid this out a couple months ago in July when she said, here's what we're doing going forward. And I'm not taking anything off the table. We need to have an ironclad case, et cetera, et cetera. So when we sort of read into that, that, you know, she's not opposed to opening impeachment inquiry, we just always would have happened sooner because they would have had these tools to get the evidence they need much more, you know, quickly than we have right now.

And I'm still not sure why they waited, but now that it's happening, I am glad. And I have faith in them once again that they'll follow through. And like you're saying, if it's similar to Watergate and that they'll end up doing a formal one eventually, I still don't see them being able to remove Trump. So I wonder if they're just trying to garnish that like public support before the election. Like what could be their angle for impeachment? Just to do it for the sake of moral justice.

And I think yeah, it's their job. First of all, and that's why a lot of people support opening impeachment inquiry. But also, I think that they delayed it for maximum election impact. Okay, so they're sticking with that then yeah, maybe they would wait longer to do the formal thing to you. And if that ends up resulting in an election win, and then we can prosecute Trump after

that, then maybe we look back and hindsight and say, well, played. That's how I'm feeling right now. So far. Yeah. But then if you are successful with impeachment, which I don't know that they would go, you know, that they would want to go forward with impeachment, not knowing that they're not going to be successful. But I don't want them to successfully convict and remove Trump because then he's pardoned for everything. And that's just my own personal little justice point. As it might actually happen, they might not be able to make it happen, but still having that effect of trying to. Well, the whole, yeah, and the whole point, and we've been saying this forever is it's your job, it's your constitutional job to impeach an unfit president who's broken the

law so many times that we can't even count. We can, Democrats can, we know numbers, we're not afraid of them. But it's also, if the Senate refuses to even hear the trial, which is what McConnell has signaled that he's not even going to hear, he's not even going to take up an impeachment hearing, an impeachment trial in the Senate. Then you use that against those senators running for reelection that are Republicans that didn't allow him to get away with this and not to use it as a match McConnell. It could work out with your theory in that favor, like the idea is that if McConnell just

stays McConnell and he doesn't remove, then you'll have more ammo to impeach Trump and the people who have spoken instead of- And you'll have more ammo to vote Mitch McConnell out. Exactly. And hold the Senate. And hold the Senate. And hold the Senate. And hold the Senate.

Come together if we're just a little more patient. Turn it up. Yeah, it feels like it's slow, but I also feel like things are really kind of revving up at the same time. The problem is, is all the shit that's happened between now and then, children dying in concentration camps at the border, asylum seekers not being able to get to, you know, seek asylum like they're supposed to changing the poem on the statue of liberty. Just all this terrible, terrible shit that's happened since then.

The rest of us are like, why? Yeah, why wait. Politically delay something. But I think everybody can agree that had we started it earlier, whether we started it in February, when we, you know, right after we took over or whether we started it now, we still wouldn't convict and remove the president. It wouldn't have stopped him from continuing these horrible things that he's doing. I wonder if the thing you might have liked this, they have two shots essentially to get him out. They have the election, which is one, and then the second one could be impeachment. If he does get reelected and they do

all of this perfectly leading up to the cusp of the election, then they can pull back and say, we're not going to interfere with an election cycle. We'll hold off and see if anything, if it comes with this, if he gets reelected, then they can just reinstate their efforts essentially as soon as he gets in. And then also, hopefully, at the polls, if they're doing that, people will be thinking, I don't know, maybe I don't want to end a, you know, vote a guy in that's wrapped in all this controversy. Regardless of whether or not I even agree with it, do I want to vote in a president that's going to come in and there's he's just going to be totally in a revenge

because he's right. Yeah, Nixon got reelected though, but you're right about that being a potential outcome. I also think that the Senate, I wonder if we have enough like seats to even remove him if he got re-elected. Like what would happen then, if he'd get re-elected in there? No, we couldn't mathematically get enough seats to remove him.

He would actually have to break the law. It's just swaying some Republican. We would need the Romney 20. Yeah, the piece of thought that I've left out is hopefully between now and then, maybe he will just continue his egregious behavior and it will be enough to turn some Republicans at the outside of the election. Yeah.

During these investigations, he might be called to testify or he might be, you know, compelled by the courts to hand over some sort of evidence. And if he defies that court order, that could move some Republicans on the needle, give them an out to be like, you know what, I can't allow, like, I can see Romney maybe, I don't know, be in the white horse prophecy, a prophet that he is, maybe standing up and saying, we can't allow this blatant disregard for the rule of law in the country before everything was kind of prudent, I was okay with it. Yeah, and he kind of already put out that one statement, and that might be at the last we hear from him unfortunately, because that was so disappointing. Exactly, Yeah, but you're right. It's a possibility that he can get reelected and then we could potentially have Republicans

come out. It is a gamble. I wonder how much we could do. We'd have a better shot because we would have more Democrats in the Senate at the very least. Oh, better shot. Okay, that is something. We would have to convert fewer Republicans.

That's worth pursuing, definitely, then, because like you said, it wouldn't make it seem like... If everyone votes. Yeah, if he got real like that yeah so we would have the option of people voting him out and if that failed then we would have yeah then go for impeachment or continue the impeachment that we already yeah yeah kind of ooh it's tricky yeah I don't know if you could stretch impeachment that far but later so either you could cut it off 90 days prior to the election saying we don't want to interfere in an election yeah they cut stuff off all the time

I want to mouse so badly that I know it they cut stuff off all the time. Yeah. I want to mass so badly that I know it blinds me. But I get that there's a lot of variables here and Congress people there. I don't want to impart. That's my big thing. I don't want to impart and either, but I also just want to gone more than I don't want to impart. So that's probably part of what's blowing me.

Well, yeah. Yes, I mean, obviously if I had a choice between a gone pardoned Trump and a gone, you know, and a still here Trump I would say gone pardon Trump is much better. Okay. Okay. Yeah I wouldn't keep him in office just so that he's not part of the whole just to make sure well Just because if he got out of office which eventually he hopefully people come up to me as a comedian and say what are you gonna Do after this you know, I think Pat Noswell told this story about his George W. Bush stuff He's like, oh, but you don't have these jokes that you can tell him more. I would gladly give up my 10 minutes of mediocre Bush stuff

to have him have never been president. Totally. I feel like, yeah, I know how much you hate Trump, definitely. I was just wondering, because if he, once he eventually got it off his, we could probably put him in jail if he wasn't pardoned, right?

Like if there was a way to, but you're right, ideally we would remove him and he wouldn't have seen. James could also put him in jail. Yeah, so many factors. But that would even with a pardon. Yeah, yeah, we all think it's a dick though. We're right. We all want to make it a sat. Exactly. Yeah, I wouldn't be like, no, keep him in there. I don't want him pardoned. I mean, no, no, no. But some people might actually feel like, hey, we can make sure, yeah.

Yeah, because I do think that people would be very disappointed if he were if he were in peach removed convicted out of office and pardoned. I think there would be a lot of people who would be upset that he didn't face justice. But again, we still have New York, and we still have state attorney's general. So, okay, so I just totally stepped all over Jordan and took my hot note first. So, we're gonna go out of order this week.

And Jordan, tell us about what you've got on your ex-boyfriend. Yes, I'll make it quick. This is a long episode. So on Tuesday, Newton's draft is lawsuit that we've been talking about on the ex boyfriend. Yes, I'll make it quick. This is a long episode. So on Tuesday, Newton's dropped his lawsuit that we've been talking about on the daily beans against those who called him a fake farmer, quote unquote, because he realized that lawsuit was about as sustainable as the mini plot of land he bought as a, nah, I do so have a farm in response to his haters. Newton's lawyer wanted to make it clear that they were not dropping the case because it lacked merit.

They were just dropping the case to shift their focus and include all of those qualms and another lawsuit that they were going to file that day, which we will open the day after on Wednesday in Virginia. And they did just that. They filed that lawsuit and what it is, it's against Fusion GPS and its founder, Glenn Simpson and the nonprofit group campaign for accountability. And Elacid accuses them of racketeering and for interfering with his Trump Russia probe

on behalf of the Intelligence Committee investigations. Devon says, quote, I was often smeared. And now we know there's a link between those doing the smearing and Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS has a long record of this. Most people... That's their job, that's what we do. They're Apple research firm.

Yes, they're a smear factor. Yeah. Most people know about the steel dossier. When we were investigating fusion GPS, they were actively involved in working to smear me to obstruct justice to derail our investigation. And then he said, working to smear me to obstruct justice to derail our investigation. And then he said there was a joint and systematic effort to intimidate harass, threaten, influence, interfere with, impede, and ultimately to derail.

Plaintiffs' investigational investigation, sorry, this is lower saying this. Plaintiffs. Plaintiffs' congressional investigation, interrussian election interference. Muhu Devon. Muhu. That's amazing. Hashtag Muhu. Yes, he says I'm going to hold these guys accountable and this is just one of the

many steps we're going to continue to take. So he's asking for $10 million in damage to his reputation and his efforts. Uh, as a congress member. Yes, it's definitely a number he just got, like, he drunkenly got by like throwing a single dart onto a board. That sounds good. How about 10?

How are you going to try to personally profit from issues that you're saying relate to a congressional investigation, too? If anything, that money should go back to the tax payers, not yourself. If you're actually saying that impede the investigation. He feels like he was my underdog. Personally, smear. The Mr. Speech and Debate Clause doesn't like it when it works both ways. Exactly.

He would have turd. Well, thank you for that. Moohoo. That's amazing. Moohoo. I love it. I love it. All right, you ready for sabotage? Yes. Yes. Okay, so about a year ago, a tiny story dropped about a former Clinton donor, turned Trump donor, named Amad Kauwaja. He ran a shady online business that would help fraudsters and offshore bettors cover their tracks using sham websites and dummy companies. He's like just basically a consultant for fucking essential. And so he basically, these companies want to hide businesses through nature, they like

front companies, like think of the car wash and breaking bad. He would get advise you on how to do that. And he gave Trump's inaugural a million dollars. And I just wanted to bring his name back into the spotlight since Brody and the inaugural are being investigated right now. So just forever that name, a mod kojah. All right. And we might as well just take that right into this.

Are you ready for the fantasy indictment league? Yes. I'm gonna be a dino. No, it is gonna be okay. Dino. Coney dick. And diner. Coney. Coney. Hold it. It's gonna be okay. I'm gonna cry dick. And die there! I'm gonna cry, I'm gonna cry!

Hold it, they can't, it's gonna be okay. Just calm down. I can't calm down, I'm gonna be dead! Okay, so we got a lot going on in the fantasy indictment league. First of all, if you had Jacob Wool on your fantasy indictment to give yourself, I don't know, what's he worth, the point?

Yeah, great, great pick though. I don't know, man, he's been off my radar for a while. Me too, me too. That's our bad. So he's, he's been indicted. There's a worn out for his rest in California, $50,000 bench warrant for $5,000 $50,000. $50,000. $50,000. Wow. Yeah. So he basically fraudulent and least sold improper securities in 2016. And it's coming back to bite him in the ass. He was banned forever from futures trading. Yeah. Oh, while back to bite him in the ass. He was banned forever from futures trading.

Yeah. A while back, but him and his business partner apparently are now in trouble. And this has nothing to do with any of the fake muller sexual assault case with Jennifer Tom or any of the other, like the fake death threats that he totally separate. Cooked up. This is just some shit he did in 2016 with securities trying to sell him. That 50,000 is that a reward or a bail money? I forgot. Ah, it's a bond. Oh, okay. I was gonna say reward. It's a third of a month. As a mom will turn it. For that. For that.

That's a bad one, right? Asshole down on Twitter. Yeah. Just raise your hand if you're personally victimized by Jacob. David, I think, is a dad's name. Just dick. So give yourself a point. Actually, I'm going to give you 1.5 points for Will, just that half a point for him being such a cut. True, true. And for thinking of him after all these months, I know. And for something that hasn't been recently investigated,

this is an old school thing. But the statute of limitations was about to toll on this one. So we got to issue it more for some of the items on this stuff. I don't know what they were waiting for other than just maybe gathering more evidence, but we now shall draft our new fantasy indictment teams. I get to go first and I'm gonna the guy who I brought up in sabotage. Oh yeah, what was the name? Kojah. Kojah. I like that name. It's pretty nice. Kooolaja. All right, Jordan, I'm doing more wool. More wool. More wool.

That's what's that? Super seating wool. Where's wool though? Where's wool? Just eat where's wool though, man. I will take broady, please. Good one. That's what I was going to go with.

Next. So I'm going to take Nader. I think he's got some super seating stuff coming up on him. Dersh, no underpants man. He's a super wheel, right? Underpants man. Underuse? I think it's a children's book and I want to say this.

Captain's New Pants. Yeah, I was like a Captain. No, I'm a coloring booker. We're calling him Captain Underpants. Well, can't take it back. The worst nickname stick. Dersh, all right. Jalisa, what do you got?

I will take picker picker You selected picker Along those along that vein. I'm gonna do I Can't take yours. It's okay. You can And it's probably not gonna happen this week. Although if you pick it it will And I will then Barrick nice. I know that's your man. Oh yes, that's okay. I'll do AMI.

AMI? Good one. I'll do Trump victory. Trump victory? I'm going to do the inaugural. I will do Soriana. Good one. How many more do I have?

Just one? You have two more. Okay, so I'll take Igor. Brando. Brando. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I it. Good one. How many more do I have? Just one? You have two more.

Okay, so I'll take, um, Igor, Brando. I'm gonna, I have one more, I'm gonna go with, um, Maxwell. How's it gonna be my pick? Jisling. Living life in the Jisling. Living life in the Jisling. I'll do a Rando. Alright.

And I'll take more Jolo. Do, and I'll take more Jolo. Do you think that's possible? Jolo. Super seeding Jolo. There's Steph. Nice. Yeah, nice tea still doing his thing, so I remember no. Alright, that's how we play the fantasy indictment league.

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we need to let them because I saw a lot of people getting bashed online for trying to come over to the Democrat Party or at least leaving the Trump trained. And I strongly believe that if we want people to change, we need to give them room to do so. And I got a lot of flack for that tweet. And I'm sure our next guest can relate. Joining us today is former Trump supporter turn Democrat, who now supports, I believe Elizabeth Warren for president. It's David Weissman. David, welcome to Mueller. She wrote. Hi. Thank you for having me on. We really appreciate you coming on. I just wanted to ask you a few questions about your experience.

I know you used to watch Fox News and in your own words, you were a full-fledged, unapologetic red hat-wearing Trump supporter. Until one day, you engaged online with comedian Sarah Silverman, you accused her of carrying more about immigrants than veterans. What happened after that? Well, what happened was to actually answer some questions, and I asked, well, what really started was, it was a time when our conservatives were saying they were shadow band, you know, being conservative.

And then I had a spain on saying, you know, hey, Jack, you know, how come you have comedians like Sarah Silverman and Stephen Colbert dressed in Nazi outfits with their comedy. Well, I'm just in meaning to just, you know, a lot of me on Twitter. And then she actually, she actually repliedlying, you know, comedy is subjective. It's, you know, it's mainly for reaction, not necessarily to offend people. And then I was kind of surprised by that, because normally when you Trump supporter attacks a, um, celebrity, they get blocked, I mean, it's sort of like a badge of honor. So I was kind of thrown off guard with her response. And then I kind of thought, you know, and she's, know as she's

I along in here and why don't I find out why she doesn't like Trump so I asked having gotten this respectful in the mate which is very rare on social media and so she's only why she like him you know anti-Simmons isn't song in the brain system you know all the different things why you know, he's not like and So no my life and then I started thinking you know, if she's I want to tell me why she does my Trump Maybe she might answer questions why live was believing that thing is a new because I'm always took Concerned of pundits words on what the wolves believe and not actually dialogue because when you're concerned it, you're led to believe that the wolves wanted to destroy America from the inside.

You're told that they want to take rights away. You know, all these different little wise and misinformation and demonization, you know, that's what you believe. You know, you believe that little wolf heart of pan guys are an enemy. And so I, I actually, like I said, I asked her like, you know, why do you care about illegal aliens, more than veterans, or more than military? She replying, you know, it's, you know, inclusive, you can actually care about veterans, military and immigrants, because one, we are a nation of immigrants. And when she replied, and a lot of her followers replied, she'll mean different facts about

immigration. Many of the immigrants are thinking, Miss Highler, she's not fleeing for her lives, not Ms. 13. In fact, Ms. 13 has actually started in America. And so I learned different facts about that. And a lot of the problems actually come through the four of entry Not necessarily trying to You know Not the events that you see playing for their lives um, so you know, I learned a lot in different um You know trunced about the actual immigration and they said singing asylum is an issue that you never really hear in a concerned media and it's always about, you know, you need to come

here legally, they need to come here legally. And sadly, you know, you see now, it's not always about legal. Did you think it was Sarah Silverman's kindness and willingness to have a dialogue with you that allowed you to open your mind to these facts? Because I know a lot of times, and this is on both sides, that, well, I don't know if it's on both sides, but a lot of time when you present facts, they're ignored. And but you didn't ignore those facts.

And I was wondering if it was her kindness that kept your mind and heart open to those facts. Yeah, I mean, and people get confused by straw. They think, oh, she's what turned me into a liberal. And no, that's not the case. Like you said, you know, with her kindness, that inspired me to dialogue more. And I was only mainly asking questions on, you know, certain issues. I had no desire to lead the Republican party. No desire to end my support for Trump at the time. So, you know, it was, you know, in Spain, we asked

questions and learning the truth of what, you know, what was believed. What was it that eventually did change your mind and made you leave the Republican Party? And not just leave the Republican Party, like some folks like Scaremucci and stuff like that, are leaving the Republican, the Trump Republican party, but remaining Republicans You actually came over to the Democrat side and I believe you're supporting Warren for president What what was it that what what changed there? What made you did just all the facts piling up? Yeah, all the facts I am learning the differences between

conservative and liberals are concerns between conservative and liberals are, conservatives are very close-minded. They stick to their families, their churches, and the gods, what have you. And they want to make sure that they have their rights, even though they already have their rights. And I've learned that Democrats, liberals, they fight for rights of others and don't have rights. They fight racism, they fight sexism. They want, you know, they actually follow the Second Amendment on, well, wrangling in

militia, not that anybody can have a weapon or what kind of weapon. You know, this seems like it's more realistic, more, more modern, I guess. I mean, and I kind of realized too, I mean, I used to think all years shouldn't change the Constitution like it's survival. You know, that can be absolutely. And you know what, and when presidents throughout history say, you know, it's not an absolute document, it's supposed to change them at times. You know, it's a man-made document for our country. And you know, Americans in 2019 is not America in 1776. And so it was a lot of different facts, new information. I mean, I learned about President Obama, Hillary Clinton,

learning that a lot of it was the immunization, propping handoff from Fox News, another conservative outlets. I mean, sure, are they, are they prepping? No perfect. But they are, you know, they're not, you know, they're trying to find the rights for other people. And they're trying to make it safe for kids to go to school, you know, and they're trying to, you know, help out in the country and progress. And all of that led to like, you know, one of those actually are conservative principles. I mean, seriously, I mean, seems like conservative has been like the second amendment.

Seems like conservative is one of control women's rights. I mean, why don't we mean, so that's 19. Why are women getting paid less than that? I mean, so many, so many different things. I mean, like I said, people think I just switched like that because I'm a few in speeds in here and there. No, I spent a lot of time re-recenting everything I know.

I'm in fact, 10 years studying different people, events, you know, everything, you know. I relearned everything. And then for some reason, I mean, I felt and I see how a black person does not go up to save as white person. Yeah. Muslim as a Christian. And I realized there's so many people out here being stood over that I find it more empathetic and more warning to five broke those rights. I mean, I'm a, I'm a white guy and I have all the rights.

I mean, if I wanted to go and get a gun, I can go and get a gun now if I wanted to. You know, no questions asked. You know, I can do anything I want to do in this country. And I'm a straight guy too, you know, but you know, there are other people that don't have that kind of white privilege. And that's when I saw what the Democratic Party

was all about. You know, they're not trying to take any rights away. They're trying to fight rights for others. And that really won me over. And as far as Senator Warren goes, she seems to be the person that is the strongest candidate out of all of them. She also had a similar history being originally conservative and so I kind of thought I can relate to her on that, and sure she made a mistake on the Native American part, any name it, she's a responsibility for

that. You know, leaders saying responsibility unlike the current president that we have now. So I mean, I have some might remember when someone say, you know what, I made a mistake, I'm sorry. And you know, she, you know, she learned my respect. And that's what I want to hold for. And you know, the violence of the individual kind of party is I am willing to open it. Yeah, and it kind of matches your story too, because you, you know, like you said, you started out as conservative

and somebody allowed you the opportunity to grow and change. And I think that you're doing the same with Elizabeth Warren. And you bring up the Constitution. I think it's important to note that, yeah, it's an amenable document, right? It wasn't meant to be, you know, never changed and never modified because it's in the quest to form a more perfect union because we keep changing and growing. And you're a veteran veteran you fought for the Constitution

I'm a veteran too, and thank you for your service Thank you, but I've noticed that Trump supporters discount my service because I don't support Trump Despite the way he treats veterans and gold star families and now Active-duty service members by pulling department of defense money for our bases here and our construction abroad to defend us from Russia. He's taking that money to build his wall. Do you find that your veteran status doesn't matter to Trump supporters? Yeah, it doesn't matter. And you know, like, and that's what real, that's what maybe realize what kind of people, uh, uh, Trump supporters aren't. Which Trump is. Is Because when you know, when you hold fun, mega, you know, it really is like a cult.

Decency is half the window. All of that is a submission. And the American first mission, nothing else matters. I mean, what are you thinking? He got a wave of so much stuff because, you know, he's been there in agenda and that's all accounts for them. And when I was dialogueing, they saw that, you know, I was getting back clashes on, he's a traitor, this, that, you know, all these, I mean, I encouraged people to look at my mentions. I mean, you know, and so yeah, I mean, he can be a sport in my soldier, perfect cracker, many years, and they won't now consider you a pain trip because you're a Democrat. And it's kind of funny though, because one of the things I learned that it was a Democrat that actually

created a GI involved. I mean, one has Republicans really gone for a military massage, you know, just sending money and that's it. Yeah, they tend to fund the Department of Defense, but they also tend to not fund the Department of Veterans Affairs. So it's a whole thing, but I do wanna thank you for your service. And then I also wanted to ask you,

you just published an open letter to Mitch McConnell. And I was wondering if you could tell us about that because he's a longtime Kentucky Republican used to be small government Republican and anti-Russia. But now he seems to be in bed with those guys and the NRA. And I was wondering if you could tell us a little bit about your letter.

Well, I mean, we've been having so many mass shootings. There's been gun violence every day. And I think it's an every day. I mean, just to hear him La Florida and local news in Florida, there's always something going on and shooting. And, you know, there's Democrats having, putting lots of legislation and a lot of his joints, you know, I mean, when public and consular actually

pointing in on a legislation, you know, Republicans and Democrats are working together and trying to put something in there. And he ignores it and saying, what is going on? Why is he ignoring all of this stuff to make her you know I mean I was a soldier, you were a bad soldier, I mean we you know we expected to get shot at one of the rocket and all that stuff, not in school, I mean can you imagine what they're what theyid school. I mean, imagine what they, you know, what they call throw and mean PTSD sucks. You mean, it's a snow and gel and he's, you know,

high school kids, junior high kids, you might have to worry about that kind of stuff. And, you know, he's a center and he's also a people of people and he's just pretty much giving them being a few, you know, to the school by French. But, you know, he's, that's what, that's what he's saying to the people. I mean, he doesn't care.

And he didn't care when Obama was president. He did the same exact thing. I mean, he is, I mean, it's almost like Republicans are contracting fair problems on the Democrats. I mean, he is one is just trying to America, but then he is in anything done. You know, Democrats is one who's trying to America, but then he is not in anything done. You know, Democrats are going more than just wanting to be strong. They want to, you know, make it safer for us.

You know, and it's like he's just, you know, taking all this money from the inter-a and in ridiculous. And it needs a stop. Yeah, I agree with you. And I also want to thank you for taking time today. And I also want to thank you for taking time today. And I appreciate your kindness. And I hope that our listeners take a cue from Sarah Silverman that when I just always find it's better

to engage with kindness and curiosity than with bashing and rudeness. Now, sometimes you can't get around it. Sometimes people are too far gone. But I don't think that that's true for everybody and I really appreciate you taking time to speak to us today. Any final thoughts out there for anybody? Thank you. Yeah, final thought. I mean, when I'm person is questioning, 50 people may be welcoming in that. I mean, I understand why many more are upset with me, but I mean, I think about it. If they sort of question each one,

they leave that whole. And with some bad clashes that woke me up out of that trans, out of that vacant American trans and then when I saw the meaning of them completely for the first time, letting them solve vulnerable, being recorded. And I saw how Hillary Clinton was right and I could have believed it. And that when I saw how Hillary Clinton was right, and I couldn't believe it.

And that, when I saw that, and I was putting everything together, and I realized, this is not the guy that Fox News made a mountain beat. And that's where I ended up support. And when he used me going, it is support from other Democrats and liberals that he used me going,

and why would he, why take the hits from support and borders and it's primitive. In the Sarah support that motivates me. And I think, and it was like an intervention to a watch of a Sarah so I'm like, it was so many different people that saw what was going on. Like I said, it was almost like an intervention. And that's how I described it.

And I think we need to take one person at a time, not a whole bunch of people. I think that's the key. If you're able to see a person questioning, you know, you know, talking that individual, you know, leaving anybody else out and just focusing on that one person and struggling with what's going on. Well said. Well said. Thank you so much for joining us today. Everyone, David Weissman. Thank you so much for having me. All right, that's our show. What an interesting interview, right? Just to learn about how important it is to be kind to people online.

And I know I got a lot of blowback from putting that tweet out saying that we need to be kind to Trump supporters who might want to come over to the dumb party. And I understand that some people just aren't capable of doing it because of the gaslighting and the PTSD and the anxiety and all that. I'm not saying by any means you have to go out and do that.

I'm just saying, you know, maybe just don't be a jerk. Right, and those of us that can do it, just maybe don't criticize us for being nice. Unless there's a specific reason that that person doesn't deserve it, there are always exceptions, but generally speaking, I think it's a good rule of a, to just start with kindness.

Yep, that's a can only get better from there. So, and typically being a jerk only makes yourself feel bad also. Exactly. Yeah, then you feel worse. If you being a jerk only makes yourself feel bad also. Exactly. Yeah, then you feel worse. If you have any feelings or conscience whatsoever. Yeah, or negativity, stress kills, man. Just chill out.

Karma's bad, look at Jacobo. Yeah, and I say chill out is a blanket statement. I know there's a lot of chaos and terrible things happening. What I mean is, we'll all be able to face it easier if we take a breath together. That's way better than saying chill out bro. Treat yourself calm down. Yeah, because that'll be nice for now.

Anyway, thank you so much. You guys have any final thoughts? Just take care of yourself. I'm sorry, that's your line age. I really want to emphasize it. Yeah, seriously, self care is big. Yeah, yeah. Have a great week.

Nice. It's going to be a fun one. Yeah, seriously. Have a great week. Nice. It's going to be a fun one. Yeah. Seriously. Have a great week. We've got all these folks coming up. Yeah. We've got all these saddles this week. Yeah. All these saddles this weekend too. All these saddles this weekend too. Yeah. So maybe on the day before or the day we leave for Seattle, we could have new rules in the committee for impeachment hearings. Wow. Well, you know, investigative hearings. Yeah. Yeah. impeachment word. So anyway, yes. Thank you so much. And guys, please know, investigative hearings. So if you don't want to use the impeachment word. So anyway, yes, thank you so much.

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