Jack - Russia and the NRA

Episode Date: January 22, 2018

This week…the government is closed! Plus, Russia’s connection to the NRA, Bannon’s testimony, and new Senate Fusion GPS transcripts! Enjoy!  Also, remember once we reach 10,000 likes on FB and 10,000 followers on Twitter, we will give one lucky listener a brand new PS4! Follow/Like us today!

I'm Greg Oliar. Four years ago, I stopped writing novels to report on the crimes of Donald Trump and his associates. In 2018, I wrote a best-selling book about it, Dirty Rubels. In 2019, I launched Proveil, a bi-weekly column about Trump and Putin, spies and mobsters, and so many traders! Trump may be gone, but the damage he wrought will take years to fully understand. Join me and a revolving crew of contributors and guests as we try to make sense of it all. This is Preveil. The government is closed. Welcome to Malarshi Road. The government is closed.

Welcome to Malarshi Road. The government is closed. So to be clear, Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities.

I have been called a surrogate at a time, a two, in that campaign. And I didn't have, not have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for I have nothing to do with Putin? I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails

that are missing. So it is political. You're a communist. No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. You guys, I'm AG. I go by AG, as you know, if you're a listener, which you probably are.

I mean, why would you come in on episode 12? But if you haven't heard us before, I am a federal government employee. I'm pretty high up. I can't associate my name or my title with anything political, so I go by AG. That's because of the Hatch Act. And with me, as always, is Jalisa Johnson? Hey! And I have Jordan Coburn with me. Hello.

My favorite people. Today, Jalisa is going to be covering the Maclatchy Report that came out this week about Russian money flooding into the Trump campaign through the NRA. Yes. Interesting. And Jordan is going to talk about the double subpoena party on band and hey! Yeah, subpoena party! Yeah, subpoena party!

Double subpoena party in the house. I just said in the how, oh my god. I'm so old. It's my birthday today. And we're drinking. So, hey. We are having some wines. I'm a birthday.

Thank you. Happy birthday. I have Werther's right up here. Yeah. To demonstrate my age. So, yeah, sorry about the in-house reference But it just it happens But Jordan's gonna be talking about the double-supena party and I'll be going over the second round of the fusion GPS transcripts They de-testify three times. Wow, And this is the, we know finestein released the Senate

transcripts last week. And then this week, the House transcripts came out, dude, they're so much more interesting. I haven't seen them. It's kind of the same thing, but it's like, I don't know, it's just like, they gave him leeway because it seems like halfway through, like, the Republicans got up and left, so it was just Democrats asking questions like, you know, and they gave me these open-ended questions like, besides what you've already talked about, what else did you find interesting in your looking in your truck face? So it kind of went like a little tangent. Yeah, it's like, oh so many things, and you just started talking about all this crazy stuff, and it's done. It's great. And Matt, all this week said that it reads like a spy novel, and I thought the first script stood,

but these ones do too It's pretty crazy the sequel scripts. You can tell what industry I'm in So it was just me know so Jordan's gonna be going over that And I'll be going over the GPS transcripts from the housing intelligence committee And as I said, I think they're a little more interesting, but first just the facts And as I said, I think they're a little more interesting, but first, just the facts. All right, this week was an interesting week. They all are, but I mean, what can we say? Like any single one of these stories would dominate the new cycle in any previous presidency,

but now we just get it every 20 minutes. Yeah. In terms of your stories, just sliding under the rug. Yeah. Well, he's interesting to think right now. Yeah, Stormy Daniels is like, whatever. Well, let's start with Sunday. OK.

And on Sunday, the Wall Street Journal published the transcript of an interview with Donald Trump last week in which Trump asserted, I probably have a great relationship with Kim Jong-un. And when they published that interview, Trump had a problem. And so he fired back on Twitter. He said, he didn't say, I probably have a great relationship.

I said, I'd probably have a great relationship with Kim Jong-un. I might, I would, if he would talk to me, if it wasn't such a fat little shortman. He didn't say that. But he didn't. I'd be convinced. But I know, I have to like, I have to designate what's real and what's not. Because he has said these things, it's just like when you repeat it, it's like you forget. But this is the world we live in. Right, so I feel when I- Well, mistake. I quote Trump. I have to say he actually didn't say that, even though it's completely plausible.

So he insisted he said, I'd probably have a great relationship with Kim Jong-un. So amid this squaw will back and forth between the Wall Street Journal, they're like, no, no, we've listened to it. You said, I, and he was arguing, well, amid the squaw will Sarah Huckabee Sanders tweeted out the audio of the interview, unwittingly admitting that Trump tapes conversations in the White House. So it's out there, like, can we all hear it? Yeah, it's out there. And she says, I. He says I.

But he meant I. They listened to it over and over again. And I mean, if you, it was like when he said Bigley or Big League. Oh, yeah. It could go either way, but really honestly, if you listen to it, it's I, but in any case, the important part of this story is that they just admitted

that they tape White House conversations, Oval Office conversations, okay? So there are Trump tapes now. If you recall, Trump also sent out a tweet last year indicating he had tapes of the Comey conversations. That's right. Do you remember that? Yeah.

And Comey during his testimony, he said, Lord, I hope there's tapes. Do you know? Is this watergate? Are we going to have to subpoena the tapes? Is Muller going to subpoena the tapes? Is he going to refuse to deliver them? Are we going to have to go to the Supreme Court?

Because that's what happened in Watergate. That wanted to Supreme Court. Supreme Court said you have to give him the tapes right and that's when the secretary Accidentally deleted 18 seconds of the tape and then they ended up finding that So is it illegal to tape employees of the White House or it would just be evidence For the probe that would be necessary to like confiscate no I think in DC you're allowed to record people without their knowledge But I mean,

because this is political in nature, and it would want to know what is happening. Right, so it's almost like, who's really the big dick? The guy who cheats on his wife or the lady who finds out about it from looking through his phone. Oh. I like that analogy. Is that, is the fact that this investigation going on,

do you think would be enough to try to subpoena to get any such tapes that- Yeah, I'm, Mueller might have already subpoenaed the tapes. We don't know. And I do apologize for referring to the couple as cisgendered heterosexuals. I understand that we could be anything. Hey, it's all good.

On behalf of LGBT people. Thank you. You're my check, you're my check in balance. Yes, I win in other ones. And because I, I, I surround myself with millennials so that I, I can make sure I'm not saying the wrong shit Yeah, I got the ginger check in case there we go Yeah, so if I say anything that has soul you can correct me and say sorry too much soul no soul

Too much soul for gingers Another thing that happens Sunday Haiti held an emergency high court session resulting in an agreement to Unsee a little release documents relating to the Jean-Claude Baby Doct Dovalier indictments. For money laundering through Trump Tower. Oh snap. This is on the... There's a mention. Well, if you call my country a shithole and say we all have AIDS, you think I'm gonna

unseal those indictments? On the record for sure. I mean, yeah, I am Jean-Claude Babyct Do Vol. Yeah, but I did launder money. Yeah, talk shit gets nitched. Through Trump. Yeah. Okay, very reasonable. Yes.

I think so too. Go Haiti. I'm on team Haiti. Yes, let's go to the T-shirts. And I always have been. You guys follow Conan in Haiti, by the way. I don't know what's the deal. It's fucking a draw.

We're just watching. Can you post a link to this? You can. Okay, Conan and Hayden. I'm gonna draw, we're just watching. Can you post a link to this? You can. Okay, Conan and Hayden, I'm gonna find a video that I know. He's posting a bunch of really good short videos on Twitter, I think. I saw one that he brings the Make America Great Again hat to one of the fillings in the street and he says,

here's the revamped one and he says, Hayden is already great or something. Okay. Yeah, and then the Haitian kid puts in a truck. Trump doesn't even know he's the president of Haiti. Yeah, I totally kidding. Trevor Noah, I want to say it was him. Maybe he was Seth, a little bit late night Seth, whatever.

Oh, mine? Yeah, Myers. I think one of them said it's weird because of the shithole comment was really just offensive because like, we all agree that there are like levels to like countries when it comes to first, second, and third. You know, as a class of okay. There are some, there are some. There are some that are in batch. Yeah, there are some poor veterans that are in Batchet.

But why are they poor? Because they've been raised by white people. Absolutely. There's so many like rich nutrients there and they've been, you know, what do you call it? And there's a word that we all know. Right. Raid is one. There's another that's a bigger village.

There's a village. And then like the bigger idea of America and like what we do when we go over and we conquer and what's that word? Capitalize? Another one. Oh, oh, I know, you're trying to say it. It's more specific. Because some whites at Primus believe that America's goal is to do this.

They don't care that they do this to country. Strip mind Jupiter Hollow. Yeah, it's corruption. Wow. Yeah, I'm going to figure out what this word is. I just made a big business reference with Lily Tomlin. So thank you. It went right over my hand. I'm so sorry. She better hall. I watch it It's on that flip it might or might not be can we get enough of a sponsorship?

Oh, yeah, just turn it up. Yes. All right, so Monday you ready? We've gotten through Sunday Monday, it was announced that the director of Kazakhstan who is not bored. I find out We'll visit the White House this week, which is this past week. All right, so that was just Sunday you guys Going on a Monday. Let's move on to Monday It was announced on Monday that the dictator of Kazakhstan who is not Borat I found out He's gonna be visiting the White House. Well, he already did, but this was you know Monday, right? He visited the White House last week and Here okay, here's the thing with Kazakhstan. We learned in the first round of Fusion GPS transcripts that that die-fi

released, die-in-fights on, that the dictator's son, the dictator's the guy who's visiting the White House. His son took over BTA bank in Kazakhstan after it was looted for billions of dollars by the previous chairman who then set up shell companies through Felix Sater and purchased Trump properties, all of which were quickly resold for less money. Yeah. According to SinFen, which is a financial institution here, as reported by BuzzFeed News this week, overvalued purchases of real estate that are quickly resold for less money, that's a red flag for money laundering.

So in that report, BuzzFeed decided that they would add up all the Trump real estate deals that would fall in these red flag categories for money laundering. They determined that about $1.5 billion of Trump real estate sales have these red flags for money laundering. Oh my God. That accounts for 21% of all his real estate sales. Oh my God. accounts for 21% of all his real estate. Oh my god That's crazy So basically here's what happens if you're not familiar with money laundering if you weren't like a breaking bad fan

And you don't have a car wash So these dudes these these corrupt oligarch motherfuckers they steal billions of dollars overseas They set up shell companies in places like Cyprus and the BVI which is the British Virgin Islands They buy shitty real estate in other countries, usually the United States, most often Trump real estate. And then they sell it off in short order, usually for a loss. Okay? And when that money comes back, squeaky clean money.

Wow. Hard to follow the trail because they're purchased by shell companies. Okay. Anyway, so that, that, that, that Kazakhstan guy is going to be here. Wonder what they're going to talk about. Yeah. On Tuesday, ban and testified for 12 hours. But he refused to answer any questions about his time in the White House or during the transition. And during his testimony, he slapped with two subpoenas. And Jordan is going to go into more detail about that crazy story in a little bit so we'll get there soon. Another thing on Tuesday, Lewandowski lawyer it up. Okay,

so he hired some lawyer. He's like a, this lawyer is like a mafia lawyer. He represented Ruth Maidoff, okay, Bernie Maidoff. Oh yeah. So Lewandowski in case you don't remember him, he's one of the truica that ran the Trump campaign. I call him the tricyod now. Because there's three of them. I like to just, you know, shove some Russian words in there. So there's a tricyod that ran the Trump campaign. Bannon, Manafort, and Lewandowski, okay. So that's interesting.

He loyered up. He was also set to testify last week, which he did, and we'll get into that in a bit. Okay. The Daily Beast reported that Bannon will quote unquote, tell all to Mueller. Okay. So that's interesting. And we're going to get, we're going to talk about that a little bit more in detail. That came out of that whole Bannon testimony in the back and forth to the White House. It's really, it's just, I can't believe there are human beings on the planet who think

that this is normal. I mean, it sucks that in the beginning beginning we all said we wouldn't make this normal But I gotta say like the fact that this podcast is going strong This is the new normal. I'll tell you what and you know what you bring up a good point because we are up over 1200 like some Yeah, and we doubled our Twitter follow-up Thank you guys. Thank you so much and And we are still running a contest. Okay. We're making progress. And the reason we're running this contest, if you didn't hear a couple episodes ago, I had posted like bombshell news on my

Facebook feed, my personal Facebook feed, about how previous's notes were found or released, and they proved Comey's assertion that Trump had asked for his loyalty. And I was like, this is fucking evidence of collusion, you guys. Oh my God. Bonshell, Bonshell. Like this is a something burger. And what happened was I got like six likes. And then I posted that I bought a PlayStation 4 and I got 185 likes. That pulls my mind. That's America for you. I mean, I feel it. We're all just trying to tune out politics.

Well, most of us at least. I've been there. You know? Well, now, so I'm a fast learner. Yeah. I like to think of myself as I pick stuff up pretty quick and I'm like, okay, I mention PlayStation. Get more likes.

Yes. So, in order to get PlayStation and every one of our posts, I said, what if I gave away a PlayStation? So when I get 10,000 likes on Facebook and 10,000 followers on Twitter, I am going to buy a PlayStation 4. Unless PlayStation 5 comes out, between then, I'll buy you the latest PlayStation.

Ooh, the future is now. I know. It is, well, so we're up soon. Well, I'll soon. Future is soon. I'm going to miss someone. I know. Well, so we'll have a few. Well, soon. Future is soon. Next summer.

New slogan. Eventually. Endro dynamics. The future is soon. I just made up that company. It sounds very legit. Yeah. It's a shell cover in Cyprus.

I use it to buy a trunk property. Very nice. Nice. So, presidential. So. Is that comedian money. That hot comedian money. And my rate money, you know, right? You know, I get all that sweet money. You're like, I'm about me too.

Pessilent. So, follow us on Twitter at Muller She Wrote, like us on Facebook. Tell your friends to do the same thing. You're not going to lower your chances because math is math. It's going to be one in 20,000 or two in 20,000 if you do both. Ooh. So, and I'm not going to give it away until we reach 20,000. So, the sooner we get to it, the sooner you find out if you win. Anyway, it's a clarification. We won 10,000 or...

10,000 and 10,000. Okay, 10,000. I'm sticking to my guns. On Twitter and 10,000 or 10,000 and 10,000. Okay, 10,000. I'm sticking to my guns. On Twitter and 10,000 on Facebook. Facebook, Facebook, yes. Yes. Yep, so do it. Do it.

And I might even have like a little contest for people who subscribe to us on podbean because we need to get those numbers up too. Yeah, yeah. Otherwise I'm going to have to ask you for money, which is super lame. We'll have to have a telephone on all higher Well. Otherwise, I'm gonna have to ask you for money, which is super lame. We'll have to have a telethon, like all higher , you won't like it. There's always patron. A lot of people say that patron's good for your podcast.

I didn't know what that is, but okay. I'm 44 today. No worries. All right. So, banan will tell all to Mueller. Yay, so that's Tuesday. Now we're gonna go on to Wednesday's news.

It was reported Wednesday that Mueller subpoenaed banan back on January 9th to testify with the Grand jury. So again, Jordan's going to cover that. There's a lot of banning news this week and it's all going to kind of be wrapped up real nice by Jordan Coburn here. So also banning kind of deal with Mueller. No, Grand jury testimony if he agrees to an interview, which he did. Lewandowski testified Wednesday. He also refused to answer a lot of questions, but there was Nessapina for him. Interesting. And I found out Wednesday. I'm so excited. I found out what Mueller's nickname was when he first got to the bureau. What is it? You ready? Have you

heard this? No. Bobby Triple Sticks. Oh, it's sexual. It's totally not. Okay. It's the nerdiest nickname ever come up with by nerds. What is it mean? He's a third. Yeah. He's Robert Swanmore the third.

Oh, Bobby Triple Sticks. Triple Sticks. Not Triple Sticks. That's all like gonerium. Yeah, that does. Oh, you got the trip. No, he's a third, so he's got triple sticks at the end of his name.

I'll be his third. He's, he's, he's, he's a hockey player, I guess. He was a hockey player. What? I know. He's so sexy Justice Calendar. And in fact, on the sexy Justice Calendar, he's gonna be Robert Swan Muller, triple sticks,

the third player. Oh, I love it. And they call him a Boy Scout. And if you know the Boy Scout pledge, you have to hold up three fingers. So, triple sticks. They're like, there's three meanings. And he has three dicks.

No, I don't know. That's one call me for each of us. So good old body triple sticks. Wait, no, this is Mueller. That's Mueller. Oh, I'm sorry. I kept thinking, comey, wow. No.

No, he's tripod. That's very different. Okay, but they're both going on. I kept thinking, Comey, wow. No. The cheese is everything. No, he's tripod. That's very different. Okay, but they're both going on a calendar, right? Of course, yes. Yeah, good old Comey tripod. I'm just guessing. That's actual.

I don't really. Stormy Daniels hope, no. That's good. The preferred prostitutes. What is her real name? Anyone know? Four out of five prostitutes per first dormit Daniels. Yeah, it's like Jessica.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I see that. Jessica Daniels. She's got a real name. Yeah, like. Wednesday was also the day I postulated. This was fun. I had thought to myself,

maybe it's not like you heard about, and in Jordan, you're gonna talk about this. And the band in testimony was testifying. He's on the phone, apparently, his lawyer's on the phone of the way, housing the way, house is telling him not to say anything. And I, you know what, why don't I get to this when we get to your piece? Because I don't, I don't want to reveal too much, but remind me to tell you about the, the one tweet that I put out that doubled our followers, because it's a, this is the second

time something I've tweeted out was picked up by NBC and run. Now I didn't tweet this at Matt out like I did the last time or at Joy Reader at Chris Hayes, but I did start to tweet with this might sound ridiculous, but because I'm... You can tell what my political leanings are, but I'm pretty practical. Yeah. If something sounds ridiculous, I preface it as such. Like this sounds really dumb, but stick with me. So, remind me to tell you that. Mueller said Wednesday that he has no objection to ban and hiring Burke as a lawyer. Do you guys remember we talked about ban and lawyer? And he got the same lawyer as previous.

And McGann. And they have to clear that with Muller since he's going to interview with Muller because he was in testifying for the grand jury and he's going to interview with Muller now during a grand jury testimony you don't have your lawyer with you but during an interview you do. And they have the prosecution has to be okay with that. And Muller okayed it which means that he doesn't see a conflict of interest, which means pre-bis, ban and and McGann are all telling the same story. I love it.

And hopefully it's the right one. Good point. Has to be. I'm kind of feeling pre-bis these days. Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot about him recently. He's a good guy, apparently, compared to his peers. Oh, Jesus poor dude.

Blue boy. Yeah. Yeah, I love him. You're better than a pile of shit. Hey, Jesus poor dude. Blue boy. Yeah, lower. You're better than pile of shit. Hey, thank you. Thank you so much. Thursday. We're the H.O.D.

The House, the House Intel Committee on Thursday, voted to release their Fusion GPS Glensensin Transparency. I know, OK? So that's the second round of interviews. We got Dianne Feinstein's from the Senate last week. Hope Hicks testimony in the HICs and definitely postponed. Huh what? Yeah she was supposed to testify right after Banner. Yeah.

And they called it off. So I called it off. Well I'm gonna talk to you about that. Okay. Okay. Well the Senate called it off. Got it got it. Also on Thursday McClatchy, are we still on Thursday? Yeah. McClatchy released a report stating the FBI is now investigating whether Russian money was funneled through the NRA to the Trump campaign and that's what Julius is gonna talk to us about in a little bit there'll be some raising music that's it yeah that's yeah this guy is blue for sure yeah well the interesting the really interesting thing is is that Putin is is against guns.

He's an anti-gun guy. This is so funny. Now that you mention that, I had no idea. This makes us so much more fun. Now on Friday, Hondel's blog, that's a German newspaper, reported that Deutsche Bank indicated questionable transactions involving Kushner to German securities regulators, they forwarded those janky transactions to Muller's team. Oh, goodness. So now, Hommel's Blatt is the same German newspaper I referenced in episode 6.

Everything is a referenced episode 6. I'm sorry, but listen to episode 6, I implore you to do so because there's so much stuff that came out in that episode and hindsight is 2020 is always and I'm like holy jolies so many things happen in episode six and I reported that the initial subpoenas issued to Deutsche Bank by Muller remember when we first said oh Muller subpoena Deutsche Bank for all Trump's families financial records that was Hondles Blatt that reported that. And also, Ross Story reported that Homeroza may have secretly taped conversations she had with Trump about something that's a little tougher. She's dangerous.

She's a reality. Yeah. She knows how to play the reality show game. She is so high. She's gorgeous. I guess. I mean, I know. Only one third of Molo, she wrote is gay.

I can push you into gay. Well, it's a little bit. There we go. I mean I know only one third of Molochi go to gay I can't put you into gay We go yeah, it's almost spectrum maybe 1.25. Oh, I was college gay. I'll say one point college gay I love it. It was everyone Let's see newness compiled a top secret memo and the Republican party tries to start a hashtag release the memo. Oh jeez. First of all, I'm sorry Nunez, but your fat fucking face is recused. So why are you even, I'm pardoned by a French sort of, but I'm so angry about him, Kiwi's butting his ass, he's trying to interject his micro penis into Russia stuff and you just recuse yourself, just stop it.

And in this memo, okay, it's apparently about the FBI abusing their power to issue phiza warrants. Oh yeah, and the reason he thinks it's abusive is because they use the dossier to get the phiza warrants. Right. And which is completely normal because all you have to do is show reasonable doubt, not proponder say evidence, but beyond reasonable doubt, that there's something here. And it doesn't, the dossier works that way. And it wasn't the only evidence used. And he's trying to show that these FISA warrants were illegally gotten or out of bad faith.

Is there any any chance that they have any leverage in this? Is it one of those like reaching arguments or anything? No, and litigated. It'll go up to Supreme Court and Supreme Court will be like, you're full of shit and that'll just again like I keep saying about all these lawsuits that people are filing. You're just going to bolster the legitimacy of the more investigation. Yeah, maybe it's the stalling tactic. I was going to say I really do think they think it's a filibustering of sorts through these lawsuits that people are filing, you're just gonna bolster the legitimacy of the more investigation. Maybe it's the stalling tactic.

I was gonna say, I really do think they think it's a filibustering of swords through lawsuits. They're desperate. That makes sense. They're acting like a cornered raccoon, which I had in my yard one day, but he was very friendly. Yeah, a raccoon showed up to my party ones,

like in the window, it was dope. Is that it? Is it a real raccoon? No, no, a real raccoon in the tree. Raccoons like your Coke deal. A raccoon's in my pocket. For sure, yeah. Coke raccoons.

Coke coons. So a hashtag released in the middle, a hashtag, go fuck yourself. If they find that they're bringing forth this lawsuit for a session of reason, whatever gets dismissed or not dismissed, but a rule does. What am I looking for? You legitimate, not guilty, just nothing. Right, it doesn't go forward. It nothing gets ruled on at all, just okay, go home, just nothing.

Can you actually, they can't actually use the findings from those lawsuits they're filing though against them, can they? Of course. Yeah, if you file a lawsuit and you're found, like you ever heard in court when people were like, oh, okay, so you're here for traffic violation, do you have any previous traffic violations?

Or how many times have you tried to sue? It can make, it can, it can discredit a witness. Like if a witness is coming forward and suing their landlord for not returning their security deposit, you could be like, how many of the lawsuits do you file? deposit. You could be like, how many of us are to be filed against landlord? Oh, 783. It's like you're all unions for a living.

That's what I mean. Like, strictly from the record, if anyone, professional school. Yeah, I mean, it's be known, like you're insane. Just like a man before trying to sue the, you know, right? Yeah, I knew a guy like that. He literally sued someone like every week and he made money off quite a bit of them But most of them were just like you know, he's the president. I was gonna say yeah, I should call him rising National scheme. It might be come on Trump. I might have known Donald Trump back in the day

All right, and then Vanity Fair This is good. This came out Friday Vanity Fair is reporting that Mueller is now investigating Trump About when he gave the Russians the Israeli intel in the Oval Office. Yeah, that could actually be treasonous. So that I don't I and the okay, so the fact that Mueller's investigating that is the fact that could be treasonous is my opinion. Oh, but we won't know what it is until it is what it is. Right. And but the won't know what it is until it is what it is. But the fact he's investigating

it is interesting. I forgot about that too. I'm glad it's actually being brought up again. It was a big deal. I was very taken aback by that. I mean among the other 9 billion things that was one of his first decisions as president. Like he happened in the first few weeks. But he wouldn't let any American journalists in, only Russian journalists. He met with two Russians, and he, that's the meeting where he said, I fired Komi, Russia's not a problem anymore, he was a nut job. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But not the pressure. Yeah, and this is when he told them about the Israeli deep ops, and then, and they were pissed about that. Exactly, that's really bad against. I'm glad he's investigating. I'm glad we're not letting it go. All right, so I shared earlier that the House

until Committee transcripts were Fusion GPS and Glems Simpson were released. Glems, I always say Glems Simpson. Glems, I'm... Eh. Glems, I'm... They were released and they're super interesting. So I'm just gonna go over the parts that I thought were neat.

On page seven, Mr. Gowdy, he's a Republican. He asks Glenn Simpson. All right, I'm going to be asking you questions. Even though there's been public reporting, I don't want anybody in the media to take any offense. But sometimes I'm right, and sometimes they're not right. So Mr. Simpson says, I can agree with that. Mr. Gowdy says, so in this instance,

can we also celebrate the fact that they were correct that you were hired by the Washington Free Beacon? So yes, so basically, Gaudi, a Republican, says, the media was right, it was the beacon. It was a free beacon that hired you first, it wasn't a Democrat. Can we celebrate that?

The media got it right? I was like, oh, yes, thank you. Who's the free being? Because I've heard about the Democrats and... It's a conservative. Oh okay, just saying that Republicans also gave money in the beginning. Got it. Well, they were the first people who hired...

Before the Democrats, you said, oh yeah. Oh, okay. The Democrats didn't hire... Hillary didn't come on until later. Well, Hillary didn't even do it. It was a law firm. Oh, okay. On behalf of the DNC.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was all later. That was after Trump got the nomination for the whole first- I didn't know it was just conservatism that's interesting. It's just conservative. Is this, this is what we were talking about. It was either last week or the week before

about the Hillary campaign essentially, or the DNC just taking over the investigation essentially from the point that the Republican led efforts- What that pulled out because he actually became the nominee and they were like, oh, he's our guy now. So we got- Yeah, once he beat them, they pulled out because he actually became the nominee and they were like, oh, he's our guy now So yeah, once he beat once he beat them they they took out You know, they took out the lake. Yeah, they did they was just it went from Republican to Democrat pay for

That's fine my family like that All right, so on page 13 mr. Gaudi asks Who was the second client? Mr. Simpson says I think the records indicate that it's Perkins Cole. That's who that was the law firm. We got to make a chart of every person involved in this because I hear names every day that I'm like,

who people have been saying that. They don't really ask for that. Yeah, they want like a, man, I'll, you know. I was gonna do it. We'll do it. That's what we had. Well, as of today, we're hiring an intern to set up our website and put together things. Let me know and by hiring I mean you're not gonna get paid. Yeah, you went to entries into the PS4 entry. Yeah.

Two entries into the PlayStation 4 slash 5. All right, so on page 13, Mr. Gowdy, who is the second client, Mr. Simpson? I think the record's indicator is Perkins Cole, and I can confirm that. It's interesting how they answer the questions. The record says this, I can confirm, because he's not then straight answering the question. I'm sorry. Gowdy says, and who is Perkins Cole? Mr. Simpson says, it's a law firm.

I think they're headquartered in Seattle. So that's how that goes. Right. Okay. No, no, no. So it wasn't Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton didn't walk into Fusion GPS and say, like, hey, I'll give you some money. Right. She was busy.

She's found them out. She was following them. She was following them through someone else. She was stupid. Did these phone. Did these phone. All right, on page 77. All right, so we asked him when did, when do you think, uh, Kristiel went to the FBI?

Okay. With the, with his findings. And he says, uh, I think it was early July. And by approximately, early July, it was the first of the second. And he goes, no wait, I had given my ascent to him doing it as a professional obligation or citizenship obligation. And that's when he did it. It was on the 4th of July. And I just think it's absolutely adorable that a Brit did his patriotic duty by going to the FBI on the 4th of July. That is actually the best part of it. That's a little ironic. I love it.

Okay, so on page 86, when a Republican starts asking questions, they immediately just go to Prevazon. And Mr. Simpson, good afternoon. Thank you for being here. I'm a member of the majority staff switching gears. Could you briefly describe for us fusion engagement with the Baker-Hostatler Law firm and connection with Prevazon litigations in the South District of New York? That's all they ever want to know about.

All about the Russian. Because that's their biggest, sorry, that's the biggest pool, is that they ever want to know about all about the Russian because that's their biggest Sorry, that's the biggest pull is that they always want to connect the Democrats to the Russians because the Republicans are so deep in it They're like well if we're in it then you're in it too, but it's not the same not even close So I just wanted to note that every single Republican question until they left like halfway through it is about Prefazon Then Browder and how you screwed them over. And then you said they leave, right? They did leave. There was just staffers asking questions on behalf of the

majority after life, so that was interesting. On page 140, Mr. Simpson says, not really. I mean, oh, OK, this is going to be sort of difficult. But Mr. Simpson answers the question with, and I'll tell you what the question is in a second because it's not really. I mean, right ball of left, that's right ball of left, right, right, right, right, robot doesn't.

We're going to call it robot doesn't. Robocop. Robocop was also, you know, a figure at the Bank of Cypress and some Paul Manafort shell company accounts would go wound up, I think, at that Bank of Cypress and some Paul Manafort shell company accounts would go wound up, I think, at that Bank of Cypress. So there's definitely some overlap, but I couldn't tell you whether I don't have an opinion on whether it's significant. Now remember that in Trump Tower, in the Trump Tower meeting, Manafort noted, remember when we had Manafort's notes and it said value in Cypress as an intermediary? Oh yeah. And also of note that a lot of Browder shell companies are in Cyprus. Robocop is the guy who bought Trump's property in Florida for $95 million. That Trump only paid

41 million. That was in the news. And turned around and sold it again. And he was the dude who made mysterious trips in his private jet from the Hamptons with Ivanka, Jared, Cohen, and Trump. They flew to Nice and then they flew to Dubrovnik and it's suspected that Trump met with Russians on Robocopsyat in Dubrovnik. Oh, shit. And then they all flew to Budapest. This is August 2015.

Oh my God. This is the first. Before my god. Okay. This is the first before it all You enjoy everything so Robocop is the one who bought Trump's property is laundering money clearly and that again that's conjecture Okay, three three Trump's property in Florida bought this run down piece of shit property in Florida and Trump was like No, I'm just such a good businessman. I sold it to him for twice. What it been for? Florida and Trump was like no I'm just such a good businessman I sold a tune for twice what it been for. But he is the guy who flew the four of them to Nice in France and then to Dubraudmick and apparently Trump, Romocops boats were nearby, his yachts were nearby and there's Simpson thinks the guy from Fusion GPS thinks that they were meeting on these boats with them. That's so smart of them,

but also not because we caught them. No, and then after Dubronik, they flew to Budapest, and that's right afterwards. And this can all be corroborated by just looking at Ivanka and Jared's Instagram. Oh, no. They were there at the time.

They could have seen glam of the gram. And Manafort and Stone worked with the prime minister of Hungary. And that's where Budapest is. And his name is Orban. And they worked with him as early as 2005, 2006. And he is a known Putin puppet. Oh, Putin. The phone was there with him. And he's, he's the, by the way, he's the attorney who paid off story, Daniels. Oh snap. Did he pay off the Russian prostitutes too? I guess. That's what people are wondering. Yeah, that's the attorney who paid off store medanials. Oh snap. Did he pay off the Russian prostitutes too? I guess. That's what people were wondering about. Yeah, that's the question.

So that's a very, I mean, I know that that's a long way to get to one thing, but. Hey, but that's what we're here for. This guy Robocop seems to have a lot to do with the first introductions, laundering money through Trump a long time ago. Anyway, it's very interesting. It's very, very, I really recommend

that you read these transcripts. Yeah, the Senate, you said this is their version? Yeah, this is the House until it's okay. The House, okay, yeah. Fusion GPS transcripts. Then on page 142, Senator or Miss Spire, she's a representative, Democrat, she says, okay, what is the interest of Russia with the National Rifle Association? Mr. Simpson says, I think that most of what we have found is pretty much out there now.

You know, it's been said by others, but you know, what eventually, well, it appears that Russians infiltrated the NRA. And there's more than one explanation for why, but I would say broadly speaking, it appears that the Russian operation was designed to infiltrate conservative organizations, and they targeted various conservative organizations,

religious and otherwise, and they seem to have made a very concerted effort to get in with the NRA. So it can be credited with so many election wins. I know. So speaking of the NRA, take a listen to Episode 6, where we cover the beginning of the NRA's involvement in the Russian conspiracy. And now as prom asked, I'm going to hand it over to Jalisa, and she's going to give us some details about the McClatchy report. Oh yeah. So, um, yeah, you said the NRA and Trump, uh, now have this Russia connection. And, uh, the main guy involved, his name is Alexander Torschen. So, Torschen is a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin, specifically he's the deputy governor of Russia Central Bank. So the FBI is investigating

whether or not he funneled money to the NRA to help Trump win. And by the way, just right off the top, it is illegal to use foreign money to influence federal elections. So that's what the whole deal is. And as we know during the campaign... Yes, it's called an incline campaign contribution from a foreign entity. Yes. Even if it's not going directly to a candidate, it's going to an organization that's sent to me. Exactly. Yep. And that's up for good old citizens United. Hey, you can always count on that.

It's crazy because we know Trump was a big like supporter of the Second Amendment during the campaign. And we don't really know the extent of the evidence that Mueller has against a torsion with this whole thing, but this is what we do know. So during the 2016 presidential elections, the NRA spent $55 million on campaign funds. So basically 30 million of that went to Trump and that's three times as much as was spent on Romney in 2012. So that was interesting. Yeah Interesting. Yeah, just you know, I wonder what made them so excited about Trump. I mean, he's a he's a funny guy, but $30 million. I don't know

Thought that was cool. Yeah, would you get all that money from? Yeah, it's a little It's a little weird and most of the money was spent by a section of the NRA that does not have to disclose their donors. So another red flag there. Two people with close connections to the NRA said that the actual spending on the 2016 elections from the NRA was likely $70 million at least. So it could have exceeded that. And the reason there might be a difference for the report, like $70 million and $55 million,

is because independent groups like the NRA don't have to report how much money they spend on like internet ads or field campaigns, you know, like get out the vote campaigns. So there's a lot of money there that they don't really know where it went, could have went to some legit stuff. But the reason why this is a red flag overall is because it involves torsion. And torsion's history, he's already got a criminal history with money laundering. So in Spain, he's been implicated by their government because he was apparently connected with the Spanish mobsters while he was a senator,

which is insane. And in their report, Spanish prosecutors found a ton of secret financial dealings between him and this guy named Alexander Romanov and Romanov got caught so basically he ended up pleading guilty to money laundering in 2016 and he's been sentenced to up to four years in prison but Torching got away. Yeah, so that's the weird thing and he actually almost got caught so a newspaper in Madrid reported last year that the Spanish police almost caught up in arrest torsion in 2013. Oh they missed him like by a minute. Because a Russian prosecutor tipped him off. Weird. Yeah. So that makes the big turn in all of this and in

the evidence they had against torsion was 33 audio tapes of phone conversations between him and Romanov that linked them to the Russian money laundering and they actually described him in the phone conversation as the godfather in a major Russian mob called Taganaskia. So I mean like it's not even a matter of like I wonder if he's and with the Russians they already have have that documented. Yeah, and here's the big picture thing for Trump supporters who listen to us. And I know there's like seven or four, I don't know. Maybe there might be many, many silent Trump supporters

who listen to us, but here's a thing you might believe, which is fine, which we don't have any proof of, and we can't prove that any Russian interference into this election did not affect the election. What you cannot deny now is that with the proof of this money coming through the NRA to a candidate in an election is a foreign state interfering in our elections. You may or may not believe it had any effect. You might or might not care if it went to Trump. But the connection is there.

But the fact that we have proof that money came in to the United States to a campaign from Russia should at least give you pause. Definitely. And I'm not going to say, I'm not gonna say, it affected the elections. We lost because of it.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I can't make that such a big. It's just a dot. It's just a dot and a big scatter plot of events. And I think it's a big one. I think this one is probably most interesting, just because now we know that, sorry, now we know that they were funneling money

into organizations and places that we probably wouldn't even thought to look But these other countries are sharing what they have like you mentioned with Haiti before in Spain It has these documents on it's just like everyone's getting involved because they all see that this is a big deal It's not just America and other things came up in the fusion transcripts too If you read about the Jewish diaspora and the Orthodox Jewish church you're Russian Orthodox church, that's how they're bringing money into the United States through religious organizations. There's also a lot of money coming in through Russian embassies as payments to pensioners. It's easy.

And the fact that we've got foreign money from an adversary flowing into our country, to affect elections should be a problem for you no matter what side you're on. Absolutely. So I have stepped out on the legend said, look, in all this investigation stuff they find Loretta Lynch or Hillary Clinton or the Clinton Foundation guilty of some sort of a quid pro quo back. Great, great. Bring it on. We want to know. I want to know the truth.

You need to at least acknowledge that there is Russian influence in our elections and that we really should be doing something about it. It's a matter of national security. Absolutely. Also, this is such a, like, a continued danger of nonprofits that are masquerading and it's clearly just continuously being used as a front. Yes, for money laundering. True, it's so obvious.

Yes. The list goes on. Because no one wants to look, you know. On both sides too. On both sides too. Or she's on both sides. Oh both sides. Yes.

But I want to know all of it. Like, Hillary seems to me very qualified, but that doesn't mean she's decent. Like, I'd like to know if, I'd like to know for sure if Hillary was involved. It's just so far the connection has been most closely tied with Trump. So with that being said, in recent years, Torsions become more involved with the NRA. In 2015, he hosted two dinners for top NRA members where they met with high level Russian government and business figures. So he's doing the law for the NRA.

He even helped organize a Moscow gun rights group called the Right to Bear Arms. So he's a big player with the NRA. He even helped organize a Moscow gun rights group called the right to bear arms So he's a big player with the NRA like he's he's in it the right to ride bears Yeah, Putin's like riding those like grizzly bears I'm sure list. I mean, it's kind of cool. I'm not gonna lie. It looks really cool doing it But last year after Trump was endorsed by the NRA which some people say was oh, yeah Which some people say was earlier than usual, Torschen attended an NRA Gala where he spoke with Donald Trump Jr. So when Donald Jr. was interviewed by the Senate Intelligence Committee last December, his lawyer spoke

for him and told the committee that it was all gun-related talks. So he says there was nothing funny about it, just the NRA, but the thing is now we're wondering is that another code word, like options. I'll leave the exact thing. That means sanctions. Yep, so. This is just, honestly, just a way for them

to get money into the campaign without having to name the source. Exactly. So with all that being said, both Mueller's team and the Senate and tell Judge Committee are both looking into a torsion to see who he's had contact with on the Trump campaign and administration and so forth. And here we are. Cool. Yeah, I'm really.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I'm not surprised that the NRA has been infiltrated and used. You guys are all, you're just your suckers. And they're very active. you're just your suckers. And they're very active, they're very small active groups, so I don't know if their members are aware of how the people at the top are using Russian money. Because maybe they wouldn't care, they're just masquerading as this guys of just a pro-gun group, but it is so much more than that. I believe it, yeah.

Well, and to be fair, the poor members of the NRA who are just hunters and want to have their rifles are probably just happily going along not knowing any of this. Yeah, not everyone's complicit in this, not everybody knows. I mean the NRA is, I mean initially on the surface what it stands for, it's a fine organization, you know, but what it's being used for and the Russians aren't stupid, so I mean it's just, you know, it's not pro-gun. Oh, he's anti-guns. So this is obviously just, it's beyond self-minopi-anti-gun, but for Russia he doesn't want

going there. So it's beyond the NRA. It's just an open door for them to put money into. Right, and I want NRA members to know this, those that are, you know, regular people that I don't know where, like I would much rather than be aware of this, even if they, you know, don't know where they stand. And there's a monopoly of nonprofits that are just the hubs of these, you know, lobbying interests. Oh, yeah. There's no, like, name another name, like, gun group, gun advocacy group. Very Congress really. So influential. Yeah, no,

they, they own Congress. So anyway, thank you so much, Julie. Yeah, no, they own congress. So anyway, thank you so much, Julie. Of course. That was interesting. And now I want to roll it on over to Jordan because we're going to talk about the ban and subpoena shit show that happened this week. Yes. So, AG did a couple of points that, you know, serve as good focal points for this segment.

I'll just start from the top though. So, Steve Ben, and his late appearances now in the Fire and Fury book, particularly entertaining to watch. But some news came out about him this week and how he was subpoenaed two times, once by the Mueller team, once by the House panel of the Russian investigation. So we got essentially why this is such a big deal. He is the first, as far as Mueller's subpoena goes, he's the first person in Trump's inner circle to be subpoenaed to go before a grand jury.

And this, I mean, now you mentioned it at the top. He took the deal essentially with Mueller to instead of going in front of a grand jury where he doesn't get certain protections to not do that and then instead go into more intimate setting with the investigators and he can have his attorney there and they can just be, you know, a much more enjoyable experience. Right. Because the grand jury, you're not, you don't have your lawyer with you. There is no judge, you don't have your accuser there. It's just you and the grand jury, which is anywhere from 16 to 23 people, and they get to ask you questions, which are usually vetted by the prosecutor, of course, but you have

to tell the truth in a grand jury situation unless you're invoking the fifth. So if your testimony and dangers yourself or somehow makes you guilty, you don't have to, you can invoke the fifth, but if you're gonna be tattling on somebody else, you have to in a grand jury. So continue. And the fact that he was called

to testify in front of a grand jury too is a huge tip off that he is not the target of the investigation, which everybody knew, but no one gets called before a grand jury like that in this scenario if they're the target of the investigation itself, which means he would have to answer those questions about other people, so the fifth would not help in the air at all. And you said that I didn't see it was reported yet that he

accepted that deal for the Mueller team that he did. Uh, yeah, basically he's not going to testify in front of the grand jury. He's just going to do an interview with Mueller. As as he said, his lawyer can be there for that. But his lawyer is the same lawyer as previous in the GANS. And they've already been, I think, conjecture cooperating with the Mueller teamating. Yeah yeah. So that's the that's a molar side of it. Then there's the house panel side of it where on Tuesday he was answering questions or rather not answering questions and he was refusing to answer any

questions that related to his time in the White House is time of the transition team. His conversation was Trump. All the good stuff. Everybody wanted to know. He said he said that he wasn't going to answer those questions. So they subpoenaed him right on the floor saying he needed to come back on Thursday and answer those questions. And his attorney, Burke, is saying which honestly just legally is a reasonable thing for his attorney to say. Just I can't depose my client over 48 hours to come back and then legally, you know, confidently counsel him.

Yeah, he's a bit lawyer. I'll give him that. Yeah, unfortunately, it's, they're saying that he needs, you know, while he, the reason he wasn't answering questions is because the White House was telling him to not. Because of the executive. Right. Because you were claiming executive privilege, which like we were talking about earlier,

you can't, executive privilege usually pertains to what a president is trying to withhold her saying, him or herself, not saying, oh, executive privilege by proxy. Either that or it's executive privilege, not only is for the president, but it's also for a narrow scope. It's not for the entire time you were in the White House or during the transition team and executive privilege doesn't extend

to when you were on the transition team because You were a president. There's only one president at a time. I hate to tell you that Trump I know that probably makes you really sad But there's only one at a time and so I wanted this is where I wanted to jump in. And basically what happened, I started, my little tiny brain started thinking, I remembered back to when Manifort testified in front of the Senate Intel Committee or Senate Judiciary and one of the two.

It was unannounced. It was last year. Nobody had any notice, including Mueller. And he went in the testified. And then that night is when Mueller executed the FBI, executed the No-Knock raid on his house and confiscated all of his documents and computers. And the reason is, and again, I'm speculating, is that once he testified in Congress, all of that information

that he testified to could get back to the White House, and the White House could prepare or have more intel on what he's going to tell Mueller's team and then have evidence destroyed, it could compromise the investigation. So what I was thinking to myself, and I thought I was like tin foil having it for a minute, was like, what if it's not the White House that's gagging banning? And I hate to say the words gagging in banning in the same time. But it just brings up really horrible 50 shades of gross. But what if it's Mueller? And it did turn out that Mueller and I had brought this up earlier, Mueller had subpoenaed

ban on January 9th. Oh, it's a way back when. And that gives him a chance to have FBI agents go to his house and speak to him for a minute. Because I have to serve from this subpoena. And I think that Mueller's subpoena, I'm thinking to myself, I'd bet it was Mueller's subpoena that prevented him from testifying to Congress before he spoke to Mueller. That would be interesting. And oddly enough, not only was he saying I can't answer questions, but he was told when his Thursday, when they rescheduled him for Thursday, that was canceled and Hope Hicks testimony was canceled.

Mueller hasn't spoken at subpoenaed Hope Hicks yet. As if he doesn't need her or would need me. Well, there was also a couple of months ago that Hope Hicks was gonna, Mueller was gonna talk to Hope Hicks, Mueller's gonna talk to Hope Hicks. I don't know that he has yet. I think he was waiting.

I'm not sure, but my feeling, my gut, is that this is at Mueller's behest. He doesn't want these super important witnesses to, he doesn't want their testimony to get back to the White House or Trump. Why else would Republicans on the House Committee who are the most corrupt MRFers in the world? So true.

Why would they have a subpoena at the ready? Why would they want Bannon to talk? To just know what he's gonna say ahead of time? Yes. Yeah. I always have to question the motives when a Republican is like a whole lot of a sudden they're just bipartisan and they want to get to the bottom of the truth. It's not their history, it's not their heritage.

No, they're working on behalf of the White House for some reason or new nez or whatever. Because they're all compromised, I'm a share. They are, they're compromised from just infamazia. But, well, you know, I'm like, this can't be the way. So I tweeted that out and I prefaced the tweet with, this might sound ridiculous, but because I feel like it's some sort of weird. But is it though? It totally, like the government's hiding aliens

conspiracy theory. Because it's so crazy. How would he have done that though, while there were reports coming out, you know? Well, if he's on that, well, two things. If, if, again, you have to remember, McGann is the White House attorney and he is also has the same attorney So what you have to realize is that

McGahn who is the White House attorney has the same attorney that band and pre best have all right So you I mean you're talking you know you're talking about when he's on the phone with the White House or whatever and Here's a thing McGahn is the White House attorney McGahn has the same attorney that Bannon and Prebis have. So Burke, who is the attorney that they all have, could be on the phone to the White House, his client, McGann, who's saying, don't say anything, because we talked to Mueller a minute ago.

But I really honestly think that the person behind the gag order on Hope Hicks and Bannon is Mueller. That would be amazing. That's what I think, and I tweeted that out, and that got picked up by NBC2. If you're right, I'm gonna get you a PS5. I have a 4. I'm gonna skip you and upgrade you. So, anything else you wanna wrap up with, Jordan?

Let's see here. I'm really just, I think this is the fact Muller, you know, we've been talking so long We've had this podcast now in septus 12 and yeah, and now they're starting to get tangibly close to his inner circle Going after Steve Vanisty, but it being subpoenaed by two different parties. It's easy. Yeah, it's just a Sort of a dream come true It's gonna be really yeah, I think stuff is just starting to heat up in a way that it has not before, although all of this shit is fucking crazy. It's all fucking crazy. The part of it is like knock.

Yes, and the fact that so much is happening over such a long period of time sort of desensitizes people, but this deep band of stuff huge deal. So much of it is such a huge deal that every stuff huge deal, all of it. We're only three months in since the first indictment. And I've been... Yeah, he's only been on the since July. Yeah, it's insane. Yeah. We got until May at least.

All right, well guess what guys. I'd like to revamp my picks for the indictment fantasy league. All right, so we learned this week that Bannon was subpoena by Muller and I also learned that if you're subpoenaed to testify to the grand jury you are likely not a target, right? That's what you just said Jordan. Okay. So now I have five categories now for the indictment fantasy league. Ready? These are my new five categories. Yes. I'm changing the whole game. But here we've got plea deals and indictments, amended indictments, innocent witnesses and the mole. Okay. I love that. So patent opinion. Dependent yeah. So here are my picks based on who has and hasn't been subpoenaed by Mr. Muller,

little Bobby Triple Sticks, and who I think are targets. All right, so in my plea deals category, and I'll send this to you so that you can keep. Perfect, thank you. We need just like five columns in our names and who we picked. So for plea deals, this is like

Flynn and pop-a-dop. Okay, Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Clovis. What? Sorry, you're so cute. You're like, well, let me treat. What's his name? Edmigman, I love you. Roger Stone, although he's a toggle for me between plea deal and indictments. Yeah. Now amended indictments. This is somebody people who have already been indicted, but I think extra charges are going to come obviously metaphor and gase. Right. Regular indictments. Here's who's going to be indicted, and this is in no particular order. Okay. Because right now there's three unsealed indictments. They still have an open about. That's right. I got Donald Trump Jr. Kushner, Sessions, Pence, Trump, Sater, Cohen, Ross, Ivanka, Torshin. Torshin is the NRA dude, Epstein, and then like a gripper rush. That's his whole family. Where's Barron in

this? Fuck it, I can't bear it in Dytman. And Dytman is stupid. So you don't think Epstein's the mole? I don't think Epstein's the mole. So, and I think probably, and if I've got named the three sealed indictments, I'm going with, I'm gonna go with Kushner, Seder and Cohen. Okay. Because that's one man guy and two shadow guys.

That's what I'm going with. Now the mole, oh wait, innocent witnesses, hope picks and curtschilling. I can see that. going with. Now the mole, oh wait, innocent witnesses. Hope picks some Kurt Schilling. I can see that. The bodyguard and the lady. Yeah. And the mole, you guys ever watched A B C's the mole? My friend Craig was actually the mole when you.

Who's that? Previous. I think Previous is the mole. That would be so crazy. That would be like the core of the movie. Right there. He's the, you know what, the movie could be called. It'd be from his perspective.

It could be called Previs the Mole. Wow. Very cute. Like, write it to me. So what I'm gonna need you guys to do is I'm gonna need you guys to, I'll send you these categories, these five categories. I'm gonna need you to make,

write down your people who you think are gonna end up in the categories and your next three. You got it. Okay, and that's gonna be in Diamond Fantasy. And that'll be for next week? Yeah. Okay, cool. So we're gonna go over that next week.

We had a lot of good questions this week, you guys. We've had a lot of good ones. First one, why did Mueller subpoena ban and instead of just interview him like everybody else? And as you said, there's so many different reasons he could have. I think it's personally because he was trying to gag him from talking to the Congress. Yeah, and now that you said that. It makes more sense. So that's why I think other other opinions are that he's subpoena banning to send a message. Other people think it was because he wanted to just interrupt like he didn't know and he wanted to interrupt. Is that like muller though?

No, because he's subpoenaed him on January 9th. Another theory is that he wanted just to to subpoena somebody you have to send FBI agents to their house. He wanted to send the FBI agents out to get a feel. Yeah, okay. I think you subpoena him to be in front of it, to go in front of a grand jury, then he had the opportunity to give him that deal. The deal. Yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like, I'll say this for $8 million. Okay, how about seven? So then eight dollars, not million. Right. Yancy Faith on Twitter asked us why our previous McGann and Bannon sharing a lawyer.

And the easy answer is that they all worked closely together during the time when Sally Yates warned the White House back in January 2017 when she warned the White House McGann that Flynn had committed crimes. Right. And then McGann went and did some research on what the Logan Act was and if if lying to the FBI is a crime or whatever. Yes. And and so they all worked together on this.

Previous have notes about it. McGann is the one who looked into it. And when McGann told the White House, yeah. And then the White House came out and said, no, McGann said it was fine. That pissed McGann off. Wasn't there also a pack between them and Rex Tillerson, where they were all kind of in and together about like,

if things go south for one of them, they'll stick up for the other. They've kind of always been like in the same click, it seems. I didn't know there was a survivor alliance. Yeah, I've heard about that when, I'm, yeah, yeah, yeah. I really didn't see it. We can bring that up again, I've heard about that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really did. We can bring that up again, but I'm not saying it. Yeah, right down that'll be your assignment.

That'll be your thing next week. Nice. Put, yeah, on the case. But the only thing that would stop you from having the same lawyers, if you have different stories, so they all apparently have the same story. And McGahn's story, as we know, is that McGand told the White House that Flynn was compromised which just upholds the obstruction of justice. Right. And then Ruby Bird, the Ruby Birds on Twitter asked if Trump resigns or is removed, does he get ex-presidential benefits like secret

service, his salary, and health care? Well the answer is yes and no. If you're just impeached by the House and not removed by the Senate, you still get all your benefits. Yeah, that's what happened to Clinton. If you're removed by the Senate, after you're impeached, you get nothing. But if you resign first, you get it all. So he needs the cash out. Yes, we really talked about the idea of him resigning.

Yes, he's got to be thinking about it. He hates that place and that job. Well, resigning preserves all your benefits. You get secret service rights. He's probably just holding out for the right moment. Yeah, so that was a really great question. So I just wanted to get those questions out of there. Oh yeah.

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And I'm so sorry Trump and Kushner and Ivanka and all you fuck faces. Try out you might. You cannot shake Bobby Triple Sticks. Somebody tweeted us that Trump apparently does run the country like his businesses. Oh, because it's shut down. Yes, they're all big grunts. And I said, dude, if Trump ran the country like he runs his businesses. Oh. Because it's shut down. Yes, they're all big grunts. And I said, dude, if Trump ran the country like he runs his businesses, then Russia could pay for the wall via laundered

causes money through Cypress shell companies. That's right. That has to be. Well, what would it? So that's like, we can't do that. So he tried so hard to sabotage the Miller investigation by shutting down the government, but you don't get to. He's considered essential and that investigation is going to continue to harm your 239 pound ass for the rest of your life. I love it. You guys, I have such a good time this week. Thank you so much for tuning in. I've been Julie Johnson. I've been Jordan Coburn. I'm A.G. and please, please play station.

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