Jack - Study for the Midterms (feat. David Baria)

Episode Date: October 22, 2018

Ep #51 - Joining us this week is David Baria (Senate Candidate from Mississippi) for our Flip It Blue segment! Also, Jaleesa covers Jared Kushner cheating on his taxes, Jordan goes over Trump's 60 Minutes interview, and AG breaks down the recent arrest of the person who leaked SARs to the press. Enjoy! Register to Vote HERE: https://vote.gov 

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Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So, it is political. You're a Communist! No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Hello, welcome to Mueller, she wrote. I'm your anonymous host, A.G. and with me, as always, is Julie Sajansen. Hello. And Jordan Coburn. Hello. And we are coming to you from the beautiful hotel named Redacted here in Los Angeles for Politicon. We have an amazing show for you this week. We are recording this from Politicon, so if the sound quality is a little bit different,

it's because we've got this little mobile rig set up in our room here, and then we're going to be recording some stuff from the floor. We'll have all kinds of pop-in guests today. Jordan is going to cover Trump's incredible interviews this week. Was it just the Leslie Stall one that you're covering? Yeah. It's 60 minute interview.

It's 60 minutes is enough. It's honestly a masterpiece as far as Trump is concerned. Definitely. That should call it the 60 year interview, because it just seems forever when he's on there. By master piece, I'm sorry, I have to clarify. I mean, a perfect amalgamation of all of his faults. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

One place. That's all I need. It's his magnam opus. Absolutely ridiculous. And my magnam opus, I can't even imagine him saying those words. And Jalisa,, let's see, you're gonna cover Kushner's taxes now. Because remember a couple, I think it was maybe last week or the week before it time goes, so oddly. Yes.

What is time? But, you know, that had that whole New York Times 26 page article on Trump and his father given him a billion dollars over his life and never paying taxes and all these tax schemes and stuff. Well, they did want to cushion her this week, so you're going to cover that for us. I'm going to talk about the recent arrest of who I consider to be a hero within the Treasury Department that leaked some suspicious activity reports to the press and the connection I found to previous reporting that we've done here on the show from Ronan Farrell. First though, I have some corrections.

I referred to Brian Kemp, the pieces of Georgia Secretary of State overseeing his own election and actively oppressing voters in his race against Stacey Abrams for governor. I kept calling him Matt Kemp, who's actually number 27 left fielder for the Dodgers. Six foot four, two-tand, or after another third round in 2003, a totally different guy. Sorry, Matt Kemp, I didn't mean to get you confused. He was with the Padres for a minute. Oh, what a little help team. I think you're a nice butt if I remember. Anyway, that's objectification of men, which is fine with me. Also, while talking about the Alpha Bank communications with the Trump Tower server, I had

mistakenly said that the Trump domain was taken down within hours of the New York Times publishing a story. When actually it was taken down within hours of the New York Times reaching out to AlfaBank for questions. So good catch there. That's a slight little thing. But you're absolutely right. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they didn't publish the story. They just called and asked questions. And that but when the domain name came down Within hours, so yeah, I listen to smart man. They're on there on top of us. They what do you even need us for if you know that? So yeah, anyway, good catch always you guys are free to send us corrections. Hello at Muller. She wrote if you hear anything And you guys may have noticed that we have a full ad card now.

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Toats. Muller She Toats. The newsletter, you get the newsletter, the book club, my show notes, you'll be supporting independent journalism and women in podcasting, very important things to support as I'm concerned, not just because I do it, but we have a lot of stuff to get to, so let's jump in with just the facts. All right, so all the way back to last weekend when we were recording, the New York Times dropped another bomb on the Administration saying Kushner paid no federal income tax for years

Angelisa will have details on that for us later in the show Kushner is gonna pop up a lot this week. Oh, yeah I can't wait for that guy to go down his dad too got a little bit about that in the article. Oh good Remember when we had I think we had to work it on and he and he he's his picks for the fantasy indictment leak He has pop a cushion or yeah And he and he his picks for the fantasy indictment leak. He has power. Yeah, it sounds like a weed strain does it. It should be why now. Yeah. I feel like a corrupt billionaire sell their sons off to their foyer family. That's what it looks like. Yeah. Go be with the Trumps.

The Trumps are going to work for us and the bin salmons. Yeah. Enjoy. Then let's see Sunday a paper in the United Kingdom called the Sun Told us that Putin actually ordered the Skripal Novichok hitman that guy who you tried to kill the Skripal and his daughter He ordered him to assassinate Christopher steel the assassin's name is Alexander Mishkin. He's 39 He's like five years younger than me baby And he used the alias Alexander Petrov.

Oh, very good cover up. I would never know you were Russian. Alexander Petrov. Nice. Couldn't it just been like Bob Smith? No. No, you'll never know. It's me. That's the dumbest alias ever. Oh yeah.

It's a walking through the front door tactic. Definitely. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, not seem Russian. You could have just gone with Alexander Mishkin. I don't understand that. Anyway, so he used an alias Alexander Petrov for the botched hit on the Skripals. And then last week it was unmasked that Mishkin's accomplice is actually a Russian spy chief and his name is Anna Tolye Chga, and Michigan is a doctor that works for Russia's military intelligence agency. So it appears Mishnik plotted to use Novacock on Christopher Steele, a year before the Skropal attack, and on the direct orders of Vladimir Putin. That's frightening.

I'm not saying. I'm not surprised. I know that Bill Browder is probably like, Steele must be a bad ass to have gone this far without long without having It's still he's still with us. He's alive. He went into hiding, but yeah, he's smart. He's very smart Yeah, I suppose if you're well, Skrypa was a spy too. I don't know didn't still went in the hiding, but I think he's out now Isn't he definitely out? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this is like you're saying a recent thing or is this just a follow-up of when he was on the list It was a year before Scrapal. Okay, so it's been a little while. He's been trying, I guess, and he keeps missing.

So that's got to upset him. Just imagine missiles just... Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, in my head for some reason. Also, Sunday Trump appeared in an interview with Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes. He thinks he did well. And that's hilarious. Jordan has that story coming up a little later. It's, again, his masterpiece. Then Monday, we saw our friend Scott Stedman's name in the mainstream media.

It's about time. His name started popping up. We've had him on the pod a few times. He's 22. We just graduated college. And he's just a cool kid. Incredible. A couple weeks back, and a few times, he's 22, he just graduated college, and he's just a cool kid. Incredible. A couple weeks back and a few months ago, we had him on to talk about Simone Mangiante

because we've always been skeptical about who she really is. So Simone Mangiante is supposedly an Italian woman who is the fiancé of Papadopolis, coffee boy. And she has ties to Mif's and she just always her accent always seemed off to me and you know I'm not an expert or anything but it just didn't seem right and he he came on Stedman came on the show and you know we talked at length about some of the lives that are inconsistencies and her story about where she's from and what she does and how old she is and He's got some really close familial sources

In his in his pocket about about that story But then you know also we had Seth Abramsson on and we're gonna have him on again soon His book proof occlusion is coming out soon and he wanted to come on and say hi again He actually came on in in March or he he went away put out a tweet his book Proof of Occlusion is coming out soon and he wanted to come on and say hi again. He actually came on in March or he out, well he put out a tweet and we had him on a little bit later but he put out a tweet that it was really interesting that when Papadopolis was in Italy, probably meeting with Putin allies. Darapasca is you know, like Darapasca, the Yachtman. allies. Darapasca is, you know, like Darapasca, the yacht man. His yacht was parked off shore when he was there, when pop it up was there. And I just, I just have this

like partyboat image in my head of Darapasca with a bunch of young sex coaches because Nostya Rybka was with him for a long time. She's the one who, she's the sex coach, who ended up in a tie jail for apparently Soliciting sex in Thailand which no one ever does and The capital of that. Oh, yeah It's like getting arrested in Vegas for gambling right answer to him for weed. Yeah, okay, so But she took a video on Derapasca's yacht when it was in Norway showing Darapasca talking

to the Prime Minister of Russia after he had just flown from Russia to pick up the Prime Minister and before that, he was in Newark, New Jersey, where Maniford was meeting with Kalimnik, and Kalimnik is kind of the go-between. And the reason is Maniford owed Darapasca like 18 or 19 million dollars Darapasca actually sued him twice for that money but then when Manifort got the job for free they're all good. They're all good. They drop the lawsuits right and there's actual written documentary evidence showing that Manifort was trying to make whole the debt with Darapasca. That's right. a lot of can we make all with briefings

and so all that went down so that's there are possible and he's kind of got this pension for young sex coaches uh... and uh... i'd you know more power to you ladies but that's kind of his gig and i and so when when set brought that up that that he was offshore when uh... pop it up was in italy and I'm wondering if that's when he met Mangiante. And so I had, I just cooked it up in my head, and this is

total speculation that Mangiante is one of Darapasca's yacht ladies. Oh, shit. And is probably Slovakian and a Russian asset, and she used to work for Miffsud, and so like I put that, I put all that together in my head because I'm weird. But... Hella beans, yeah. Hella beans. So anyway, this year, or this week, I should say, ABC picked up the story and reported that

Mangianonte provided ABC with a picture of her Italian passport because ABC was asking questions when Scott Stedman started poking around. ABC picked it up and said, we need to ask. So she sent a picture of her passport, which, and that just raised more questions than it answered. Something was weird about it. And eventually she acknowledged that she doctored her age on the passport, which says she's 34, but she's actually 37. How do you even do that? Like in Photoshop,

she doctored it or she actually got like a, she didn't get a fake passport. That'd be funny if she was doctored. Yeah, I, I, you know, I don't really know exactly all it says is it was doctored. Which is so weird you know, I don't really know exactly all it says as it was doctored. Which is so weird for just a random woman, just an innocent wife of fiance. Yeah, doctor her past student. And a lawyer intern, what would we all do? She lied about too, she'd never worked for that law firm.

Right, right. The law firm was like, no, she's never been here. And she's like, yes, I was, and I was an intern. They don't keep records for that. And they're like, yeah, we'll do. They said it in real capacity. Yeah. We do keep records and you've never been here.

Yeah, at a law firm where they have really important classified information to say classified, but you know protected. Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah, three years is such a weird way to, it's a weird number to lie about your age too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and Scott Steben had her marriage certificate showing a different date of birth than her passport. She said, and then she admitted to it, She coped to it. She said she did it because she wants to appear younger so she can have a career in Hollywood as an actress. No, not buying it. Personally. Three years and by the way, 34-year-old already died in Hollywood.

Thank you. It's not going to make a difference. Um, that's just so unless you're Matt Camp from the Dodgers. He had a great career. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's Betty White, I guess. Well, on into his 30s. She wants a career in DC as an actor. Oh, there you go.

Yeah, yeah. Or Russian actor. Um, so anyway, Mueller's been asking her if she's concealing any ties to the Kremlin because both her and Pop-A-Dop have ties to Mifsood, like I said, who was acting as a Russian agent at the time and Mifsood is still, and he could be deceased. We don't know where he is. He hasn't popped up on the radar yet. I really hope that, like, Mueller has him in a safe house

somewhere, he's gonna, like, reveal the whole thing. But now I'm getting way speculative. Is that a while? Is that a week after the night with his son? Aww! They're camping together, father, son, camping trip, maybe like nine months older. And where's that baby from?

No, I'm getting a point. Yeah. Also on Tuesday, no, excuse me, we haven't started Tuesday yet. We're going to start it now. Tuesday, Manafort asked if he could pretty please appear in court this past Friday in a suit. And Crazy Jog jealous told him hell no. If everyone else has to wear the prison jump suit to hearing, so does he.

Basically, if you're going to a jury trial, you can wear a suit because they don't want to kind of taint the jury with a guilty, your guilty feeling by making you wear a prison outfit. Like you marked somebody out in stripes, you're going to be like, no, no, no, that guy. And so we're very big on innocent until proven guilty. But it's kind of a thing. But when you're already a felon and you're appearing at trial, you get to look guilty as fuck. So they made him wear his jumpsuit.

He literally played guilty. Like what? He went to a suit. Yeah. Fridigulous. So yeah, and I thought that that was a nice touch, even though Ellis is a little off his rocker sometimes. But like his point was that justice is for all.

It's the same. And whether you're, you know, somebody who stole, you know, I don't know, 50 bucks from your neighbor or whether you're somebody who stole 60 million dollars from America, you got to wear the same clothes. I love that. Yeah. And we'll have a little bit more on Manifort later in the show because his hearing was Friday and we'll go over that. Nice. Also on Tuesday, the New York Times published a story about the ongoing investigation into the murder,

not the disappearance, the murder of Wapo journalist Jamal Kachev-G. That's the same day, by the way, the Pompeo, that's Trump's Secretary of State, was all smiles in a meeting with MBS, Ibiza, or Mohamed Bonsoh. I think that's going to be his name from now on. The story is that this past summer, Saudi Arabia promised Trump $100 million for American efforts to stabilize Syria, and that money landed in American accounts on Tuesday.

That's the same day Mohamed Bonsoh met with Pompeo and Riyadh. This looks like a bribe to me, and when we flip the house, you can bet there will be investigations into whether or not Trump was complicit in Koshnoj's murder. And now there's news reports coming out just kind of as we're recording this, that Kushner could be involved. And I'm not surprised at all because back in, let's see, was it March of this year? An episode 21, actually. It's a long time ago. We did a story that came out in the intercept

that reported that MBS said he had Jared Kushner in his pocket. That's right. He bragged to MBZ, in Biza. That's the UAE guy. And MBS is the Saudi Arabia guy. He bragged that he had Kushner in his pocket. That was after Kushner made an unannounced trip to Riyadh The year before and apparently Kushner briefed the crown prince on all Saudi leaders that were disloyal to the crown And they were subsequently expelled. It's also important to note that the White House hosted the crown prince of Saudi Arabia back in March Oh, and and that Giving of intel and probably trying to get money to pay off his building he still owed 1.4 or 1.8 billion and 66 fifth Avenue at that time.

Cutter actually ended up funding it. Which is an enemy of Saudi Arabia. I don't know what game he's playing but the money game they only care about money. The money game. Yeah, that who pays off my hotel game. Monopoly. Just real life money. God, you're right. Yeah money game. Yeah, the who pays off my hotel game. Winopoli. Just real-life monopoly. Yeah. God, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. Except there's more rules followed in monopoly. They're way more rules. Yeah, I don't remember someone in monopoly. I don't remember in monopoly laundering money to pad the receipts to raise. Well, that's

passing 200 or passing go. And you collect two hundred. You're funneling the money every time. Yeah. Go to jail parts real though. That's a real life. Yeah, for two seconds until you roll the dice. Those balls need to be changed. Yeah. Wait, what are we talking about real life? I don't even know anymore. It's all the same, man.

It's all the same. Then on to Wednesday, when Bloomberg's Shannon Petty piece, along with Farrell and Strom, wrote a piece on Mueller, saying he's ready to deliver key findings in the Russia probe according to sources. Two US officials told Bloomberg that Mueller is expected to issue his findings on core aspects of the Trump-Russian

investigation soon after the election of November 6th. Specifically, the investigation into collusion or conspiracy, we call it crimes of collusion because that's how it was referred to in the DOJ memo from Rosenstein that outlined the scope or defined the scope on the molar probe and the obstruction piece as well. Now that doesn't mean that the findings will be made public. He may reveal his findings only to his boss, Rosenstein. Rosenstein.

What if we land it on? I think it's Rosenstein. I think it depends on their personality. Oh, no. It's Stein. Steinstein. Wait, it's but it's fine Stein. Yeah, so it's the... Yeah, there we fine. It's fine, but it's fine, it's fine. So, steam is up.

Yeah, there we go. Fronkenstein, because he has the authority to decide what is related to Congress and what is publicly released. It's all up to him. We've all heard that Trump is going to go nuclear after the elections and fire everyone, pretty much, which makes the timing really crucial. Rosenstein himself this week had said he wants Mueller to wrap up the investigation, but he also said publicly on Friday that he supports the probe and called it independent.

And that makes the week after the election or the week's following the election really pivotal in the investigation. Though I'm sure Mueller knows Rosenstein in sessions could be fired right after the election and that he's put in protections. I was talking to David Priest. We're going to have him on the show in a couple weeks his book's coming out. He's the ex intelligence, counterintelligence expert. Yeah.

And he was talking about some of the protections Mueller might have. In fact, he actually, we were talking that he thinks that Mueller might actually have all some, indictments ready to go, sealed and ready to go. Ooh, those blank ones maybe. Yeah, or well, those were specifically calling and witnesses to the Manafort trial.

Oh, okay, so these will be different, yeah. Yeah, these are different, but they're just under seal. And they're, like the ones for witnesses are usually like a page or two. Okay. And maybe these ones are not. Yeah, yeah. These are a little more complex.

Oh, thicker, yeah. So the sentencing for Flynn and Manafort are set for December. Actually Manafort has now moved and we'll talk about that in a minute. And, but Cohen's is as well. And Muller just recently has been talking to Cohen, not to mention he's waiting for those written responses,

you know, to his questions from Trump. I thought there's nothing stopping Trump from slow rolling those answers to those questions to buy time to fire everyone at the top of the DOJ, so we can replace him with Brian Bunchkowski and Matthew Fucking Whittaker. So we call Matthew Fucking Whittaker. I love that. So these major aspects could be wrapped up by Thanksgiving.

Which cracks me up because remember last year when Trump's lawyers were demanding the pro-be finish by Thanksgiving? Yeah, yeah. Maybe they meant Thanksgiving 2018. Maybe 2020, you see. Yeah, because we were all sitting there like really you want this to be wrapped up in four months, five months. Yeah. When Benghazi took what, three, four years, something. Watergate was two years, yeah, two years. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we're like, yeah, no, thanksgiving next year, maybe. And in fact, I think the 18 months is probably one of the considering the complexity of this investigation. That's fast. Oh, yeah. And how they have Manafort and some of the most key people that they need. He flipped everyone. There's this really great article that came out this week comparing the art of war to what Mueller has done. Oh wow. In this investigation you should check it out.

It's really good. It's incredible. Put it out in our newsletter. But yeah, they're basically, you know, talking about how his, you know, his kind of his style is to the way he basically did the gaudy case. You know, and he worked with Jimmy the bull, Gervano, a guy who murdered 19 guys, which is nothing compared to what Gaudy had done.

So he was willing and able to give a murder, a guy who killed 19 people a break so that he could roll the big fish. And that seems to be kind of what he's doing here, giving immunity to people like nature, a child, pornographer, and complete A-hole. But this is how he sees justice. This is how he views justice. He views it in a very large picture. And I think that sometimes you watch a show from beginning to end season one to season

10 and you're like, did they have the ending in mind when they started the show and kind of worked their way to it? And I think that Mueller did. I think he knew exactly what he needed to do and how what his timeline was going to be. And I think he set the whole thing up and then he just followed. I think maybe Manafort took longer to roll than he thought he would. Yeah, yeah. Like really, you dumb piece of shit. You still aren't going to cooperate. But he had everything you needed. Alright, I'll put another trial in here. We'll charge you with 10 more things. Yeah, finally. Mueller's been here before. We were talking about this in the whole tellroom earlier about how Mueller's basically done this with mobs, you know, mob

zombies. Yeah, yeah. So he knows his game plan how to win, you know, yeah. And he does it very, and he also destroys the house from within. Mm- loyalists yep and flipping them Cohen already happened man for gates and and and then and that drives Trump to make Yeah, so these people have much less loyalty than mobsters to you totally right like what what are you gonna do me? Yeah, they're freaking rats are so flakes man. They're right. Yeah, that's I appreciate the emails, but not always. Definitely. We seriously think about the intent behind, anyway, we, I don't want to get into it, I love you. And please know we're good people. Then Wednesday, a Treasury official was charged in the leak of bank data about Manafort

Gates and Bhutina, and I'll go over that later in the show. Wednesday night, McGann left the White House. Surprisingly, this got very little media coverage. I guess because people leave in the White House is pretty normal. But McGahn is the White House Council that Trump treated as his personal attorney when he's actually the attorney for the people. And as we know, McGahn has been a key witness against Trump in the obstruction investigation. He spent over 30 hours talking to Mueller. McGahn was there during the Sally Yates, Flynn warning situation, and during the Comey firing, and his lawyers, by the way,

McGahn has a lawyer, and that guy is the same lawyer as Bannon and Prebus, which means they're all singing from the same sheet of music, which can't be good for Trump. And their attorney's name is Burke, and he was also the guy just a sidebar. He was the guy that, he's dubbed thousands of documents in the Kavanaugh confirmation his committee confidential He was the private lawyer that did that so that's weird

But McGann has stopped Trump from firing Mueller and then he stopped Trump from trying to get sessions to un-requse himself Whatever the fuck that is And he was responsible for shepherding the nominations of both of Trump's scotus picks, Gorsuch and, um, Kavanaugh. And now that Kavanaugh is confirmed, I imagine his job was done, and so he's out. Right. But he left without much fanfare. Maddo didn't do her wall. Oh, that's right.

He always busts out the wall, yeah. Also, Wednesday, we learned that Cohen had met with prosecutors investigating the Trump organ, the Trump foundation. So we knew he'd been talking with Mueller about Russia. He met with prosecutors investigating the Trump organ, the Trump Foundation. So we knew he'd been talking with Mueller about Russia. He met with him a bunch of times. And now we're learning he's talking with the Southern District of New York, prosecutors, and the New York State Attorney General about their respective investigations into Trump's family businesses, including the Trump Organization and the Trump Foundation, which is his for-profit

and his nonprofit, but they're both for-profits. Trump responded by belittling Cohen's role, saying, quote, he was in trouble for what he did for me. He was in trouble for what he did for other people. He represented be very little. He was in trouble on both sides, is what he said. He said, it's a very low level. And what he was is also a public relations person.

OK. It's PR guy. Pay off porn stars guy. Ooh, nice. That's public relations buddy, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

What his relations are is all relative, I suppose. You know what, payoff porn stars pops. You can send a little acronym. Yeah. Yeah. He's a popper. It's not gonna stick. It's not gonna happen.

I could see where you're going though. Thank you. All right, see you, let's see. Also Wednesday, it appears that Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS, member of this guy and his lawyers were back on the hill, having been asked to appear in front of the House Judiciary on Tuesday. Simpson and his lawyer refused to answer questions. They're like, hell no.

Saying the hearing was a farce and the House Republicans on the committee were simply trying to badger Simpson to obtain false evidence so they could bolster their false claims at the dossier, which Simpson worked to assemble with Christopher Steele is not credible. They've been after this the whole time. This is their one thing. They have like one thing left and this is it, and it's still nothing has been unsubstantiated in the dossier. But the Republicans are saying nothing's been substantiated and we're saying nothing's

been disproven. Yeah, we're on such opposite ends. I think we're on the right side. Yeah, well we are But it's funny if Fox News reporter stopped his lawyers and little and Simpson in the hall and Asked if anything in the fake dossier had ever been substantiated like we know like what we're talking about like that's their talking point This this Fox News reporter reporter This is her big thing so she's like does anything ever even been since Substantiated in the steel dossier and since the lawyer started naming people mentioned in the dossier that have been convicted For actions outlined in the dossier

He's like yeah people are being convicted people have pled guilty people have gone to jail That's a Yeah, so yes, the many things have been substantiated so she interrupted him Saying that they should stop focusing on the little things here and there and then She had the gall to ask if anything had been unsubstantiated like the spelling of alpha bank To which Simpsons lawyer said the president conspired with a foreign adversary to cheat in the 2016 election You just told me that felony convictions are insignificant details been asked about the spelling of alpha bank.

Look at the big picture lady, like he was mad. He's like, they conspired with Russia to cheat. Shut up. Seriously. We're not answering your questions. We sat for, you know, 20 hours and then 17 hours. You know, it's like just, they, they were like three or four different Simpson interviews. And we got, we had all the transcripts. We sat for 20 hours and then 17 hours. There were like three or four different Simpson interviews and we had all the transcripts.

We've talked about them. We've gone over them with a fine tooth comb and passed episodes. And he's like, shut up. And what about cofee? People make mistakes. True, true. We're all human. Cofee fee.

I say cofee fee, but yeah, man, I like all the conditions. Cofee. Cofee. Cofee. Cofee. man, I like all the conditions. Kofi. Cofi. Cofi. Kofi. Kofi. Yeah I think you're right. There's an extra V in there at the end isn't there? Right.

That's like a cross-examining defense attorney that I'm just trying to find the most ridiculous details to. Nipicking. Somehow. Yeah, yeah. It sounds like the lady at the Kavanaugh thing. Like, what was she on about? Oh, did you get paid? who paid for your lie detector test?

Exactly. When did, who paid for it? When did they pay for it? When did the law firm usually pay for it? They are usually using it. Finally, the lawyer just leans in and he goes, we paid for it, which is normal. Next question.

Please move on. You piece of shit. Yeah, also the airplane flights. Right. Are you afraid of flying?. Are you afraid of flying? What are you afraid of flying? Is it? Is it?

Is it? Are you so in doubt? That's it. They don't have actually a substantial evidence. Just sowing doubt and people's minds and it works. And so is that. It does. And that's what the guilty people always do.

Let's see. More Wednesday, Twitter released a database of more than 10 million Russian tweets from almost 4,000 Russian troll accounts. They've been coming out with these reports since last year on Twitter, starting their first report was 201 accounts, 201 Russian accounts, and that was in September of 2017. And then, oh, there's a few more, like 400, and we had like 1.4 million tweets, and they said that in October of 2017. Now, you're later, we're finally starting to get the picture of just how widespread the

Russian social media influence was. 10 million tweets, 4,000 accounts. Wow. And that's probably going to get bigger. Oh, it's got to, yeah. Still Wednesday, it appeared that Trump and Saudi Arabia are going to blame a Saudi general for going rogue and killing Kashaogji.

Trump has been laying the groundwork for this alternative story all week, and now it appears the crown prince is parroting what Trump says First it was a flat-out denial now. They're blaming a rogue actor sound familiar Oh, yeah, like when Putin denied interfering in the election and then he blamed a rogue Chinese guy or a 400 pound guy in his bed somewhere Yeah, yeah, this is so obvious to me and that it's not obvious to Trump supporters is astounding kind of The most interesting thing about the rogue Saudi general his name is Ahmed a CC And he also just happens to be the guy that native child molester was dealing with on an election interference case or you know working with him to to fund

Interference Russian interference in the election. So now it appears that Trump and Mohammed Bonsock can kill two birds with one stone quite literally. They can saw two birds with one bone saw. Yeah. You know, it just doesn't roll off the tongue. I remember two birds with one bone saw. There you go. So they have a fall guy now for Kushokji and they can take out an operative that helps out

of your rabia cheat in the election on behalf of Trump. Insanity. Oh, at the same time. And then more stuff came out this week about Kushokji. We talked about the Kushner stuff, but it's just getting more and more sinister. What actually happened, at least according to Turkish intelligence, we don't know what the US intelligence has or what they've been given or what they've been briefed on. But now Trump is and Bonsa are pivotinging even more saying that there was a fight a fight broke out between this one dude

an old journalist and 15 Saudi Arabian hitman. Oh my goodness and that Then there was a there was a chokehold now they've gone to say that the Saudi Arabians have said well First of all Trump was like give Saudi more more days To investigate and we're like what the fuck off? They come on with the stories, what it was. Yeah. So give the Saudis more time, but not, um, cabana. Okay, whatever.

Uh, so it was a week of nothing. Yeah. Yeah, and it was done in three days and they limited it super. And I'm sure this is kind of the same bullshit far as investigation, but Trump has 120 days to look into it per the Magnet Ski Act, which was triggered by our Senate. Interesting. If you want to, Per the Magnet Ski Act, which was triggered by our Senate. Interesting.

If you want to know about the Magnet Ski Act, I think episode two talks all about Magnet Ski and Bill Browder. And all the interesting things about that, enjoy that. This great sound quality from episode two. Basket it. So yeah, there's just all sorts of weird bullshit going on with this. And honestly, I personally think in this speculation, this is conjecture, that Trump was complicit in this and probably

Kushner. In the cover up. Maybe not the act itself. I think so in the act. Could be the act itself. For sure the cover up though I think. Yeah. Okay.

And complicity in terms of in the act itself, that would only require him having known about it and pretty much given the green light. That's all you need, and it sounds so light, Trump. God, that sucks. That it's going to this. I've seen some unsubstantiated reports that Trump actually did give it go ahead for this, but again, these are not substantiated reports. These are rogue sources. But we will find out.

The great thing about these things is we can find out the truth. You don't need to get yourself all worked up. And if you're arguing something that we will find out the answer to. Exactly. And I think that's the most important thing to do. And I think that's the most important thing to do. And I think that's the most important thing to do. And I think that's the most important thing to do.

And I think that's the most important thing to do. And I think unfold and we can find out the truth. You don't need to get yourself all worked up. Arguing something that we will find out the answer to. Exactly. And if not the mainstream media that'll be on it immediately, I love these independent journalists that are really on top of these kind of things. Like Staten and just these things that most people won't touch, regardless of what this investigation ends up being,

if it's another Kavanaugh shenanigan, I think people will rise up and they'll try to find out what the truth is. Like, I hope they don't let this go and it doesn't seem like they will. Yeah, and independent journalists make mistakes. We don't have the benefit of a massive newsroom with the news flashes coming through.

Resources to corroborate, witnesses and sources and things like that. So if you want your independent journalism, just make sure that they differentiate between facts and conjecture. But also, and I understand about responsible reporting, but right now with the fourth estate under attack as it is by this administration,

we need to rely on these guys, and we need to let them make errors, and they always come out with corrections. I always come out with corrections if I make an error So you know just don't throw the baby out with the bath water. It's all I'm saying totally. Yeah, good point the Idea though them getting to the bottom of this is a bit scary to think about I think because Obviously the Saudis kill independent journalists, which is the issue. I mean we've come full circle right It's like I feel like it in totally right, it won't end unless people like this guy, Jamal, like against all odds, knowing exactly what's gonna happen.

It's crazy to think that we're this far, but what's the alternative? Just like looking the other way, you know? I know it's scary and for even American journalists, you know, it can be tough, but I'm just in awe of what he did in his last hours. Kashoggi, I feel like that's just what it should be. It sucks that it's coming to that, but yeah. Totally. All right, well, I don't know. I'm not, are you scared? I'm actually, I don't know.

I'm scared because what happens overseas always makes its way here. And that's just the way the world works. And I think just knowing that he was a journalist until the very end and how it had to end for him. These are crazy times. Like we are journalists, but we are removed from that level of journalism.

But the idea is that if we let this go, and he may not be able to- We're less investigative journalists, we are more people. So it's terrifying in that sense too, but yeah. We're more speculative journalists. True, I don't mean a two-dirt horn. It's just what he did.

I admire. And I think it's sad that he had to, you know, do it. Yeah, I'm not, I mean, I'm not scared for us personally at all. I was more so just saying, I think the investigation into the death of an investigative journalist, if it started bloody, it's probably not just going to be clean and happen, you know. Yeah. Quickly, swiftly, justly. Like now it's done. It's scary for them to get down to the bottom of it.

The people that are actually going to get down to the bottom of it, that's scary for them. Like it'll get bloodier likely. Yeah. Support. And that's why it's so tragic. That Trump isn't standing up for him. Yeah. I think it's scary for everyone, but especially for those people on the front lines, it's only

going to get bloodier before I think it's going to be. Well, and journalism as a whole, I think, be a tack on the fourth of state. Like I said, he's got all three branches of government and now he's working to chip away at journalism. So we have to be careful of that and we have to not fall victim to completely dismissing an independent journal

because they made an error. It happens, please be cool. And I'm not talking about us. I'm talking specifically about a couple people that maybe in the coming weeks, you might find out, have made some errors. And I'm just kinda loobin' the truth a little. That's fair.

It's just be cool, you guys. Let's just be cool. Then finally, we got to Thursday. And we learned that Mueller's team has met with Man of Fort nine times. Nine times. Nine times. Yeah, has met with Manafort nine times. Nine times. Nine times. Yeah, so we met with him nine times in recent weeks and the Hill has reported that Mueller is talking to Manafort about stone. And stone has said he's always been saying this,

been saying this for a while not always since he was a boy, but he's been saying that he expects to be indicted. And I'm sure that we'll see that happen soon Maybe Mueller will drop he could drop the stone indictment before the election and and mention enough about the big fish So that the public expects those indictments after the election kind of securing him his ability to continue to release information That's what I would do if I were him, but he's also a million times smarter than me, right? I would drop a little before the election, so that if Rose and Stein and Sessions and,

or were fired right after the election, people would go nuts and say, we got to know what the hell else Mueller has. Totally. You know, like give a little expect a lot. Yeah. Another story came out Thursday from Kansas City, saying a conservative activist with project Veritas

posed as a fake intern with Senator Claire McCascals campaign and had access to her voter information, according to a stack of documents delivered to her lawyer. As an intern, the Project Veritas guy named Adam Thompson, or he goes by Adam Thompson, had access to the campaign's voter database for a total of 20 hours between May and July, according to the sworn affidavit. The note. I've noticed a lot of people like to compare the Russia probe, the Mueller investigation to Watergate, but this story is more like Watergate, because it's an American stealing opposing party documents

from another American. The Russia probe is exponentially bigger, and this story about this plant in the Claremocascal campaign stealing voter information, this went under the radar because watergate level shit happens on the daily in this administration. So you want watergate level? Will it happen this past Thursday in Kansas and barely anybody heard about it? Damn. Reminds me of what happened with that... Well, I forget the name, but it was basically when someone

from one of the parties stole information from the other party in the Senate confirmation hearings. Oh yeah. Oh the Miranda papers. Yeah. It reminds me of that. Yeah, that was for confirmation stuff. Friday, we learned that Rosenstein will face congressional questioning in private by, it

is Rosenstein. Well, face congressional questioning in private by this is what happens before 9 a.m. Yeah, I would say I take actually maybe I've heard it's Rosenstein and find state. I think that sounds right. I think they're both signs. Really? Yeah. Let's just mix it up when we feel like it. It's got an eye in the second position, so you would use the eye sound for Rosenstein. They do. They do. Just get talking about. What are they doing? Get over it. Anyway, Hill Face Congressional questioning in private by a Republican and Democratic group

of leaders from both the House, Judiciary, and House Oversight Committees on the Hill next week. This is for the wiretapping issue, McCabe memo, shithead. A transcript will be released once it's completely scrubbed by the intelligence community, which has to be approved by the White House. And that raises a lot of red flags for me, like, especially since Mark Meadows, a huge asshole from North Carolina, and head of the House Freedom Caucus, is who he is. He called for Rosenstein to resign, again, this week.

A guy Mark Meadows is a piece of shit. Anyway, we got a felony Friday this week, you guys. May and Justice in the Eastern District of Virginia announced they are bringing criminal charges against a Russian operative named Elena Kuskinova. She's been charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States because she managed the finances of, quote, project, Locktah.

Not Locktah. Locktah. Okay. So it's not a potato pancake. Sounds like Locktah. Yeah. Anyway, this is a Russian influence operation designed to sew discord in the United States by pushing misinformation online

about a host of divisive political issues, including gun control, the Confederate flag, immigration, and even the NFL anthem protests. Oh, shit. Yeah, she is. So she, now this has not got anything to do with the Mueller investigation. I've looked and I've looked and I've looked

and it doesn't seem like it was referred by the Mueller investigation. But I take, and I've looked and I've looked and it doesn't seem like it was referred by the Miller investigation, but I take and this is this is person interfering in these midterm elections not 2016. Right. So I take great comfort in knowing that the Department of Justice is looking into this. Seriously, yeah. And it is catching people who are interfering in this election. That brings me joy. Yeah. Yeah. So. So what's the deal on the fantasy indictment points?

We'll get there. Oh, we're going to cover that in the fantasy indictment today. Also Friday, Manafort had his day in court and apparently came into wheelchair. His lawyer said his incarceration is affecting his health and apparently his foot was swollen from a poor diet. Like, I guess, what were we speculating was gout or something. Yeah, something when his luxuries are gone

and just this foot just starts swelling for all the lies, like from the lies. Slice gout. Just gotta go somewhere, man. He usually compared himself, if he fills himself up. Oh, that's what, I remember now what we were saying before,

something about a like ferrets blood Oh, he doesn't have access to the ferrets blood. Oh, yeah I'm pretty much himself of all of his sins. Wow, that's perfect Fragilates with ferrets blood. I love it Anyway, yes, we're making fun of an infirmary whatever and crazy ass honey badger Ellis said well, I didn't put him in there Which is so we rolls him in he's like he's very sick. He's not and he's had bad nutrition and he's his foot is swollen He can't walk and Ellis is like I didn't put him in jail Which is great because he didn't remember it was judge Amy. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's Jackson if you're nasty

She's the one who I think I think it was her revoked his bail and in tostemen the the clink for who I think it was her revoked his bail and tostemen the clank for foldering with Sager. Anyway, not Nader. That is not Sater. I'm glad that's right. They're different. Yeah. Yeah. But they all folder.

Yeah. I'm glad Ellis is at least consistent in his dickery. Yeah. Exactly. Um, and a hassle. Right. So he said, I didn't put him in jail. Fucking crazy ass bitch.

And then we got to get Randall back on here to narrate. We had Randall from Randall's Animals. You know, crazy ass honey badger. Did our narration for the Manafort trial? So if you watched the Manafort mega-sode or listen, watch, you can watch it on YouTube. Yeah, it's a still picture for two hours. Yeah.

But you listen to that. I think that's where we have Randall on. And he goes over the entire Manifort Virginia trial. It's pretty great. We're going to have him back on when he has his day in court. So, so here's a couple things happen in this hearing. First of all, his sentencing was set for February 8th. My mom's birthday. Happy birthday, mom. Interesting. Considering it comes after Dems would get the gavls back.

If we retake the House November 6th, please vote. Don't count on it, you have to make it happen. And Ellis dismissed the 10 charges that were not decided in the Eastern District of Virginia case because of that one hungger. Remember how he had 18 counts, he was found guilty on eight, and then they had to dis, well they were declared a mistrial in 10 of those counts, because there was one juror who wouldn't, I was killed.

I was killed, but it's still. Yeah, not the real juror, she was on board. The real juror was on board. Real juror. And I just thought it was, It was perfect. It was interesting that like this technique, because Mueller wants to have those 10 counts in his back pocket, I just thought it was, it was interesting that like this technique because

Muller wants to have those 10 counts in his back pocket so he can see how well or what to what level Manifort cooperates and he's like if you do good if you're a good boy I can dismiss these 10 charges if you're a bad boy and we don't get these convictions Then I can retry these 10 charges and probably win because only one person was hung up on it And it was in the Eastern District of Virginia and that guy was probably a Trump supporter. So that guy though at least that's the reason why they can even keep dead jerseys. Exactly because he was like him. Yeah, definitely as annoying as it is. It's a mere democracy.

What it should be. Well because he voted he said he was guilty on the other counts at least. So he's not just the one guy being like, nope. That's true. We did get eight counts. So he, so Judge Ellis wanted crazy ass honey badger judge wanted Mueller to make up his mind because you usually have 30 days after a trial to decide whether you're going to retry any hung counts.

And so Mueller asked for an extension because he's working out this plea agreement. He got his extension, but now, crazy ass honey badger, is like, no, I need it now. And so he had to come into court on Friday and make a decision. And so what they decided from what I can tell, because I've read several different reports on this. I've even read that Manafort pled guilty to the 10 counts,

and they could be dismissed later, but that's not what happened. Those 10 counts were dismissed and I believe they were they were asked if they could be dismissed with prejudice, which means we can bring them up again if we want. And I don't have a clear answer and maybe you do if you do tweet it out as that Mollarshi wrote, I don't have clear answers to whether or not Judge Ellis granted the with prejudice part. It was kind of unclear and I was hoping that last night on Maddo she would have the script and she would do a table reading,

but she didn't get the transcript and it was actually, she was not even there. Yeah, Joy was there. She's supposed to be here, so she must have flew straight out of New York. I'm hoping that's because Maddo's gonna be here, but she's probably canoeing. Dude, she canoeed to Politicon, just like a little puddle, just rolled right up. I'm hoping that that's because Matt is gonna be here, but she's probably canoeing dude

Because she can new to politicon just like a little puddle just roll right out with just a rolls up in the bay Like a rounder is no bay here, but if there was like see the Panama Canal exactly. Yeah The bearing straight that'd be amazing. That's actually gonna go to Cape Cape. She can't be straight man. Cape of good hope There's a lame one on the tip of the canoe cape of good hope. One of the lame pieces. One of the pieces. One of the tip of the canoe. Oh gosh, that's funny. That's just a great image. Just you have a triangle hat, a three-quarter hat. Yeah, it's the only way. The wind is blowing her hair would be blowing if she had it. Just imagine. But her neck is so aerodynamic. The thing is right. She just cuts right through the wood.

Like a blade. Yeah. Oh, the gunpowder. All right, whatever. Anyway, February 8th is when Banniforke gets sentenced. That's a long time from now, so that gives him a lot of time to deal with stuff. The 10 counts were dismissed. Then later on in the hearing, Banniforke pled guilty to two counts in his DC trial, because they had a deal in the cooperation agreement.

I don't know if anybody noticed this, but they had a cap of 10 years of prescribed sentencing from anything that came out of the DC trial if he fully cooperated. So they picked two counts that come up to 10 years and that he played guilty. Pleaded guilty to them, played pleaded. I know it's pleaded. It's just so hard. English. So he pleaded guilty to those. And I guess that's it. There is a status report due from both teams on November 16th. So we'll see what happens then.

But it's going to be interesting. A lot of shit's going to go down in November, you guys. Yeah, I'm a birthday. When is it? Again, the 19th. All of November. All of November. My sister's the 18th. That's right.

We talked about scorpio's. Oh, nice. This dynamic makes more sense now. Oh, yeah. It's very familiar for a crazy. I don't know if I'd say I'd like it, but they're definitely giving him the full-present treatment. Like of healthcare included.

It would seem. Yeah. It's just like a bearish. Like, Jesus Christ, that is fucking horrible, but that shit happens all the time. Well, if you're an extravagant bourbon drinking vial, consuming pate, a fwagra, a guy, and then you stop that diet, you get worse before you get better.

That's true. Yeah, so duck deficit. Duck deficit? Next on the history channel, duck deficit with Man of Fort. Crazy swamp man and hillbilly hand fishing. God, we need a show on that channel. Oh yeah. If they can have honey boo boo, why can't they have us? I don't know.

And war history, I think. Honey boo boo. Oh. I don't know. We're not crazy enough. We need to have an angle that we exist like it's sufferable to 50% of the country. We need giant beards. We can make that happen. Yeah. I'm already halfway there. I got those dude. Yeah, yeah. Just strap on beard hairs. Yeah. Oh yeah. I get one. I get one right under my chin. The rope here. Yeah, it grows like an inch in a day

I got my tea levels did they're too high my name I'm fine. I named mine Arthur I only have one for a chin hair and I'm light hair light. I'd so you can't see it until one day the sun catches it And it's like yes How long have you been growing? And it's really without telling me and it's hefty, so you can't just pull it out. You have to get a tweezer. Yeah, yeah. What do you guys have?

Have one? Tweet at me. Yeah. I grew up watching my mom look at herself of the mirror, pulling her chin back, plucking hair, and then like, God, that's your future, right? They will never be me. One day all of this can be yours. Yeah.

Oh my God. Beautiful woman. Oh. Beautiful beard. Well, sometimes we get mama. We get biobonuses, but then we have sidebacks. And universe demands balance. It really does.

I mean, I'm perfect in every way, except for Arthur. So what are you going to do? True true. Yeah, I got like Arthur, Jim, Buck, and Joe. Is there any Debra's? No Debra's. Okay. No.

I'm hoping for one. You know what? When you get one, can we have a gender reveal party? Yeah. Congratulations, you're a bully now. Right here. Oh god. You get a new rogue hair. You have a rogue hair shower.

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Oh, why? Oh my gosh. So this information was provided by confidential documents indicating that Kushner paid little to no income tax from 2009 to 2016. And this was likely achieved through his family's real estate empire. So over the past decade, Kushner and Co have spent literally billions of dollars buying real estate.

And despite the failings of their individual businesses, Kushner's personal net worth has quadrupled to nearly $324 million. So he basically made a shitton more money while paying no income tax for 10 years. And according to the documents, Kushner's low tax bills are the results of a common tax minimizing maneuver that generates millions of dollars in losses for him. However, these losses were only really losses on paper, clearly he actually made a lot of money. And this particular tax benefit is called depreciation. So that's a loophole that lets real estate investors deduct a portion of the cost of their buildings from their taxable income every year. For example, in 2015, Kushner pocketed $1.7 million in salary and investment gains, but that's

not even including his $8.3 million in losses that year. So in theory, depreciation is supposed to shield real estate developers from having their investments whittled away by wearing tear on their properties. However, in practice, it's just a big money giveaway for developers like the Trump family. Yeah. And the law wrongly assumes that these buildings will lose value every year when in fact these fancy buildings, many of them often gain value.

Yeah, so when Democrats say we need to close corporate tax loopholes, it's shit like this. Exactly. Super rich people taking huge losses, carrying them forward, depreciation, and not paying taxes. Totally.

And then you, the person who doesn't get to do these crazy stupid business deals and lose a shitload of money, you have to pay the taxes for the country. Exactly. That's what we mean by closing corporate loopholes. Definitely. It's shit like this. Yeah, you know that.

So these fans here, properties, this benefit allows them to have enormous flexibilities for real estate investors to basically determine their own tax bill, which must be nice. But as Kanye would say, no one man should have all that power. I just try to slip in Kanye whenever I can when A.J.'s not looking. I die, Julie. So for the record, let him go, man. It's so hard. I struggle with the old Kanye.

Keep the old Kanye in your heart. And then let the rest of the show go. Good point. It's like, you know, I mean, he had a psychotic break basically. Sometimes, I don't know. I love that. You still love him, though. Well, I just love that.

You're kind of person. That quotes from like 10 years ago, so he was, he was in a very different place. Oh, wait, wait, different. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't know, but it seems like it. Yeah, yeah. I saw him on TV, that's all. Basically, nothing in these documents

suggests that Kushner broke the law, just that we have shitty laws. That shitty people are taking advantage of. So in fact, just last year, the White House pushed for a huge revision of the country's tax laws that expanded the benefits of these loopholes, pretty much like depreciation. And Victor Fleischer, who's a tax law professor at UC Irvine said, quote, the Trump administration was in a position to clean up the tax code, and they even promised to get rid of the complexity that certain taxpayers used to their advantage, but instead, of course,

they doubled down on those provisions, especially the ones that benefited them the most. So the documents reviewed by the times were created essentially by Kushner himself as part of a financial review by an institution that was considering lending him money. So that's how this came out. Yeah, yeah, always caught with the money lending.

So there's over 40 pages in this document or these documents all describing his business dealings, earnings, expenses, and borrowing from 2009 to 2016. And they also contained info that was taken from Kushner's federal tax filings and some other data provided by his advisors. And they also have a whole lot of info on him that I doubt he was planning to release to the public. And most of these documents were created just last year, so they're fresh. And the main point of this article, it seems, besides exposing the truth, was to expose

the disturbing trend that Kushner shares with Trump regarding the avoidance of federal taxes. And according to these documents, even Jared's dad, Charles Kushner is mixed in with this because of his role. Oh yeah, pop a Kush. So like most real estate firms, Kushner companies passes all their tax obligations to their owners who then incorporate them into their personal tax returns. And in this case, that would be Jared and his father.

So the documents show that in many cases, Kushner companies reported their losses with borrowed money, often putting up less than 1% towards the purchasing price. And even that was paid for with a loan. They don't pay for anything. In fact, Kushner's credit line increased from essentially zero in 2009 to 46 million in 2016, with no taxes in between. This is crazy.

This is when they say he's a genius in ways you wouldn't imagine They mean he's a not criminal, but like he's just a shady person like they're just Preaching this America first and all these values about the people and then meanwhile they're like fuck your taxes dollars Fuck your build, you know your streets and your highways that we use we're just gonna build shit on it. It's all security Medicare. Yeah, yeah, they're shitty so I can build build a tax code like that, though, like he said, it's not, I mean, he's just, like he said, he's just using what's there. Totally. It's in the like, in the profit.

Yeah, not illegal, just shitty. So in conclusion, Kushner and his friends are getting tax-reducing losses for spending someone else's money, which is, like we said, totally legal because last year's tax legislation eliminated that benefit for all industries but one real estate. So that's just an interesting coincidence. But yeah, that's the update on Kush. Oh, what a great guy.

I can't wait until he fucking wears a green jumpsuit too. Oh my gosh. Crazy ass honey badger yells at him. I didn't put you in jail bitch. This is a little weasily fucking face. I just want to. Yeah, I don't like him. Actually, I want to pinch his cheeks.

It's kind of adorable. And then he's like, man, for? No, we're talking about cushioned hair. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, he is like an evil teddy bear. Yeah, if he was a nice guy, he'd be like a trodo, you know, or a chudot. I thought he's a trojan. Yeah, I pronounce his name wrong.

It's a trodo. Chudot, yeah. I think Kushner would look more like that in my eyes if he was a good person. The cute little butt face. I don't know, could take Kushner. Oh, totally. He's like that evil porcelain doll

and that maybe the boy or whatever that grew up. That's what he looks like. To me, he's more like Michael Sarah. And what's that movie with the kids that go to the party? Super bad. Yeah, yeah. With the kids moving with the kids. With the kids moving with the kids.

With the kids moving with the kids. That's kind of like track star accidentally gets a girl pregnant. Super goofy. Yeah. I loved you know. Yeah, something like that. Quiltable. Any Michael Sare movie really works. Is that his name, Michael Sare? Yeah, yeah. He should play Kushner in the mother movie. Yeah, I think he would be a good one.

Or now that Seth was lost all that way, he could do it too. Oh yeah, either one. Also, Jonah Hill. Yeah. That's Frank Goal. That's who I'm. Yes. Yeah. Now I was thinking either one. Also, John and Hill. Yeah. That's Frank Goal. That's who I'm. Yes. Yeah, no, I was thinking of Seth. Yes, John and Hill also. Oh, yeah, yeah.

He freaks me out when he's skinny. He is facing that every day, I think. I think. I'm sure I'm a better one to bag on. I appreciate. I know what it's like, man. Look, we're when you're healthy. What's going on?

You okay, man? It's weird. Sandi Ag, it's why I love Sandi Ag. I feel like I'm an eight down there. I'm a six up here in LA. So, you know, you got it's like man. Look, we're when you're healthy. What's going on? This is the UK man. It's weird. Sandy Egg. It's why I love Sandy Egg. I feel like I'm an 8 down there. I'm a 6 up here in LA. So, you know, you got to, it talks. It's hard. Shout out my bartender. Yeah. All right. Well, hey. Shout out my bartender. I'm here this weekend. So, Jordan, tell us about the amazing Trump interview with Leslie Stahl on 60 minutes. Yeah, so Trump says a pretty horrible things. Just going to go through the highlights or low lights. I should be said pretty horrible things and then it was over bye. And that's all folks.

Now okay so earlier this week he sat down with Leslie Stahl. They had an interview and it was first so I watched the interview then I read the transcripts. Reading the transcripts is hilarious and sad at the at the same time because you see so many dashes Where he where she's being interrupted and there's so few Cohesive sentences that are even in that transcript. It's it's like a blurb and then another blurb and then a blurb and then another blurb Them just trying to have an actual conversation if you look at any of the other 60 minutes interviews with any other president It's a full-fucked sentence like a normal human speaks respectfully with another so yeah So that's what that's about how it went

So I'm just gonna go through all some of the topics that they were talking about first first Trump on climate change He says that he thinks climate change is real, but he doesn't know if it's man-made This is a story that came out. We heard it. They're talking about on the NPR lot He says that he's essentially reading between the lines. He's afraid to say that it is man-made because he doesn't want to lose billions of billions of dollars in jobs. But that's so ridiculous because a clean energy sector would create so many jobs if it was actually functioning as it needs to. Exactly. For us to meet our carbon neutrality goals. Asquick Perry in Texas.

He took it all to win and he made a shitload of money doing it. 100%. There's money in it. And that's not the motivation behind it. You have to just know where the motive is. If you've ever watched Murder She Wrote, you've got to look for the motive. And the motive here is that big oil

is where a lot of these rich guys have their money. Right. And a lot of the Russian oil or garks have their money who own this administration. And if you start doing clean energy, you're going to put these large oil companies out of business if they don't retool. Exactly. That's all this is about. They don't want to lose their zillions of dollars.

Yep. And he actually says that flat out in this interview. It's crazy. He does? Yeah, he says it's his own way. He says, I don't want to lose billions and billions of dollars in jobs. And he says that. And he says that.

And he thinks that those jobs are not the jobs that really hold. Yeah, like, coal jobs, you know, stuff like that, stuff super, super, you know. But it's like, there's a whole industry to be had. Like he said, wind power power it's still it's still is gonna take people is this the 40 I don't know what was my call job see yeah yeah just get with the time yeah because I'm a fucked up friends are in coal I want to keep when I keep dying from whatever they were inhaling yeah the clean energy

club would not accept Trump in his no way no yeah I was gonna okay sorry I stopped myself sometimes alright so he also except Trump in his no way. No, yeah. I was gonna, okay. Sorry. I gotta stop myself sometimes. All right. So he also, of course, can't finish the topic without saying that scientists have a political agenda and that he can't trust scientists

and that because he has scientists that say that it is a lie, that it is man-made, that climate change is man-made. Just like his doctors and lawyers lawyers he knows too, right? Yeah, there's legitimate people in his life. Just like he weighs 239 pounds. Oh yeah, yeah. Just like that.

And just how he had the largest inauguration crowd in history, it's the same these. Most like 97% I heard of scientists that are like in the field legitimately, they say that that global warming is real, right? And so he's saying the two or so percent is what? Yeah, well, he's saying global, he's saying, he's, he's conceding that global warming is real, right? And so he's saying the two or so percent is what? Yeah, well, he's saying global, he's saying he's, he's conceding that global warming is real.

He's not conceding that. That's man-minded. Humans have many effects on it. But they're saying that or excited. Yeah, yeah, they're saying that it is due to it, or it could be likely due to it. It's like 99% of the scientists are so clear that it's, it's, man has, is solely if,

or partially responsible, it's, it's man is solely if or partially responsible. It's it's settled fucking science. There's no debate. Anyone who says there's a debate is full of shit because they have money on oil. Yeah. And those are the political reasons. What political reasons would we have like for for being on the side of saving the planet? Like this is crazy.

Right. And as you know, as I like to say, what could it hurt? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right. And as, you know, as I like to say, what could it hurt? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And to say that that's a political issue that scientists would be politically motivated in saying that humankind is causing climate change. Yeah, exactly what you said. It's like, what are the consequences of that? We're going to create more like, I, it's sustainable energy. It's about as cut and dry as it gets is we need to change how we get our energy. We just have to. There's a limited amount of resources and we have to change how we're getting it very Very simple. Yes, do something about it. Yeah, yeah

So then he goes on to talk about Juman Koshouji. He says that Kushner talked to them being Saudi Arabia and they said they didn't do it Classic, well that's that classic. This was of course before some of the further developments came out this week, confirmation by the Saudis that he was killed. Right. You know, it happened inside the consulate, but it was a fist fight. Like we talked about.

Of course, he had very dramatic. Right. And now it's no chokehold. Oh, it's like he headed him. They got him in the chokehold first. OK. Yeah. Well, God.

That's terrible. Yeah. So then he talks about sanctions. Leslie asks him about potential sanctions for the Saudis. And he says basically, he says everyone is ordering military equipment. I tell you what I don't want to do. I don't want to screw over Boeing Lockheed and Raytheon. All of these companies, he says he doesn't want to hurt jobs. They are you know poor Lockheed and Raytheon and Boeing. I mean, you know, they only make billions of dollars. Yeah Totally can convert into green energy and GE. I mean they they 14 billion dollars in profit zero taxes paid I mean these poor poor right

You think it is these billionaires they already have their spaceship to get off of earth They got their ticket man. Yeah, yeah, they They're going to blow up a little bit. They're sad. They got their ticket, man. Yeah. Yeah. They also are pimping all those companies out to Israel enough for the whole world economy.

So I digress. So he also says, of course, he has to slip this in here. He says that no presidency, besides his, has ever accomplished more in the first two years in a history of country. Well, accomplish what exactly? Because he might be right about that. Well, you know, he brings up the economy over and over again in this because it's the only

really objectively good numbers that he has to point to. And it really do to him. Right, right. Yeah. Well, exactly. That's kind of, that's the shitty thing about the economy sort of. It always, it seems to always, it's after effects always have, you know, an effect on the president that is not one that they deserve.

Right. Go to our bed. Let me tell you the truth about the economy and the president. The president cannot raise gas prices. The president cannot make the economy better. They can only wreck it. So if an economy is going good, it's because the economy is the fucking economy. The people.

It's called the invisible hand. It's the people. It's the way that the economy machine is going. Now, you can put some certain things in place to help save the economy and set it on the right path, but that's just the way that this is the president of the United States. He does not make the economy better.

He can only record or not record. Yeah, and good job for not wrecking it, sure. He does one credit where he thinks he remotely deserves it. But he's wrecking it. Well, compared to what he's like wrecking very clearly, yeah, he's fucking up some shit. Yeah. Well, I mean, also just down the line, the effects that his inaction talking about clean energy, for example, is going to have on the economy and on everything else, the environment, social structures, immigration, our sanity. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That's a great point right there, too. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

That's a great point right there too. We talked about this in our new NNAS investigative story that I did a hot node on before. These people, they're very conservative people that are saying 100% our farms will not run if we don't have undocumented people to run them. They're ridiculous. I mean, that's the truth, but like,

then help them, help them. To run them. To ridiculous. I mean, that's the truth, but like, then help them. Help them. Right. Yeah. So, okay. Then they go on to talk about North Korea. He says that, you know, he praises his own strategy, saying that Obama eased sanctions on North Korea and wasn't tough enough with them.

But he says that he trusts North Korea now. And he trusts Kim Jong Un. And he says he has a good energy with him Horrifying immediately after he goes on to say that he also has good chemistry with President Shee of China This guy we talked about this months and months and months ago. He praises Air Dawan. She Kim Jong Un who does he like like who does he like that's not a dictator like seriously? No, that's insane Yeah, really scary then they go and talk about tariffs. he says that what he's doing is not a trade war it's

more of a skirmish oh that's what he wants to brand it as now it's a skirmish not a trade war when asked about him slapping tariffs on our allies he said quote I mean what's an ally how scary is that just get him in dictionary I think he literally meant like what's that that word mean? So we got these pieces of paper that we signed called treaties and obligations and things. I mean, it's complicated. It's complicated. Yeah. Who knew foreign diplomat diplomacy would be so complicated? Or healthcare. So it needs to make a children's book for him called my First Ally. Right. Or if he gets like a nice talk through,

God forbid it. Trump ever gets his own money. He can put that on the back of it. Who knew it would be so complicated? Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so sorry, I just didn't mean to cut you off. I just know we have to go quickly here.

So, because we've got a floor to get to, we've got a political. So, on the topic of trade, they bring up one of Mattis's explanations for why NATO exists. Mattis said the reason for NATO and the reason for all these alliances is to essentially prevent World War III. Trump says, I think I know more about it than he does. Yep. He said that about Mattis.

Yep. Also said that Mattis is a Democrat, which somehow disqualified him, I guess. Oh, of course. Yeah, totally. Yeah, it talks to Celizle's asking him if Mattis is going to be out, and he's like, I don't know, everyone leaves. People leave. It's just how it works. My dad left. My mom leaves. So I don't think that'd be a surprise to any of us if Mattis winds up leaving.

I don't know. Then they move on to the topic of Russian meddling in 2016. Obviously, we know what he says on this. He says that he thinks Russia did it, but he says China did it too. Everything that he says about Russia, he will not say it ending the sentence at Russia. He always adds the addendum that China did it too. Yeah, I rate, but Bill Clinton, rate too.

Yeah, exactly. And so then on, let's ask him if he has any regrets as a president so far. And he says that he regrets that the press hates him. Oh, he's ask him if he has any regrets as a president so far and he says that he regrets that the press hates him. He's being honest. I regret that he's our president. I mean, we all have.

Yeah. That's like when you get asked what your biggest weakness is and then, and then you say something positive about yourself, obviously. Then he, then he gets pressed again, actually answer the question. He says that he wishes he ended after earlier. Then they go on to talk about immigration. All of a sudden here it says that it's his fault that so many people want to come here because the economy is doing so well. But he says that he has to separate parents because if they were allowed to stay

together, then people would be flooding into our borders. I know. Yeah. I do. She is that on politicians. He calls them babies. He says I do, she is that. On politicians, he calls them babies. He says he's not a baby classic. And this is, I just want to add in, he talks about babies a lot in this interview.

He's like stuck in some Freudian cycle. This is what I was waiting to get to because I think he mentions the word baby like 20 times. He does. He says baby so many times. He's, and this is, this is one of my favorite tidbit studies says to Leslie. He like wouldn't answer a question directly and Leslie finally just gave, and this is, this is one of my favorite tidbit study says to Leslie. He like wouldn't answer a question directly. And Leslie finally just gave up and was like, I'm not going to fight with you.

And he goes, Leslie, it's okay. In the meantime, I'm president and you're not. That's when he used that line. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Cause he refused to answer a question. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I'm the president essentially. Yeah. Yeah. That's about it. Not that it's confidential. Just, I don't have to give you my opinion on the president. Mm hmm. He's a bitch. Yeah. So you're bitch. I'm not a baby. I'm not a baby essentially. Yeah, yeah. That's about it. Not that it's confidential, just, I don't have to give you my opinion. I'm the president. He's a bitch.

Yeah, such a bitch. I'm not a baby. I'm not a baby. You're not a baby. Sorry, not a bitch. Thank you for that, Jordan. That's good reporting. Yeah, of course, that was a really good interview

and fury and anything to watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. More so to read, because of, like I said, the interrupting, what? Exactly. Yeah, that's a person. Hard to watch. The president.

He's so angry, but he makes no sense about it. All right, so I want to raise, sorry. Why'd you say? To tan your eyes. I'm sick of looking at his white eyes. Yeah, I wish he would. Look at his on TV right now. Always got the white goggles.

All right, so I want to talk to you guys about the story that dropped Tuesday about the Treasury employee that was criminally charged for leaking bank data about Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, and Maria Bettina. Her name is Natalie Mayflower Edwards. She was a senior official at the Department of the Treasury's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, also known as FinSEN, not Sinn Feng, which is a party in Ireland. This is FinSEN.

She was named in a criminal complaint for two counts, alleging that she leads suspicious activity reports or SARS to the press. A SAR is a report that banks make a bylaw to the Treasury signalling potential illegal or untoward banking transactions. So if something suspicious is going on at your bank, you are obligated to fill out a FinSend report and send it to the Treasury. It's called a SAR. journalist's a news organization she leaked to were not named in the court documents. Instead, prosecutors provided dates and stories that seemed to match a series of BuzzFeed articles,

but BuzzFeed hasn't commented on this story yet. They apparently communicated back and forth using an encrypted messaging app. What she was doing, they weren't faltering, but what she was doing was doing was taking photos of the SARS off of her computer, her work computer, from Manifort Gates and Bettina and Prevazon Holdings and sending them via messenger to the reporter. Prevazon Holdings, if that sounds familiar, it should.

It's the real estate company named several times by Glenn Simpson, a fusion GPS in the company that commissioned the steel dossier. Her intel led to the publication of about 12 articles, all of which we've covered on Mollershie Road, officially she's being charged with one count of unauthorized disclosures and one count of conspiracy to make those disclosures. Each charge carries a max of 10 years in prison. Now when I heard this story, it raised alarm bells to me, because back in May, we had reported on a story from Ronan Farrow that ran in the New Yorker about missing Michael Cohen's SARS that were leaked. The missing ones weren't leaked. Those are the ones that Avanati got a hold of and leaked about Cohen's slush fund that he ran out of

essential consultant. It's welcome essential. That's their tagline we think. The story said that a law enforcement officer, a law enforcement officer, had released the SAR after finding that some were missing. If you remember, this person found a suspicious activity report or a SAR on Cohen that referenced two other SARs on Cohen, but the two SARs were mysteriously missing from the SINFAN database. And we had speculated that maybe Mueller had pulled them or locked them down or maybe the Treasury did, which it's allowed to, but it's never happened.

And no one knew for sure why they weren't there. Mato even reported on it, and I remember it clearly because she had said that those documents had gone walkies. And I remember that phrase really, I was like, that's hilarious. And I remember that and I was like, oh, ding, ding, ding, these are SARS. So this official leaked the third SARS, the one that they had because they were concerned that the other two were being withheld from law enforcement. So they went to Ronan Farrow with the remaining SARS. This is the reporting that led us to know that AT&T and Novartis and that, you know, aerospace company and a Russian emigrant named Vexelberg had all dumped large amounts of cash into Cohen's slush fund in essential consulting.

That leaked SARS how we found out about all of that. And after the first leak, Ronan Farah reported that seven former officials with the Treasury's FinSend Database expressed concern about the missing reports. They said restricting the reports would be unprecedented, and one called the possibility one of these experts said it could be explosive that these are missing from the database. Oh yeah. Now the Treasury official that was arrested this week and law enforcement, she's the law enforcement person that leaked the Cohen SAR a while ago might not be the same person, but right after that Cohen SAR was leaked,

the Treasury IG launched an investigation into the leak, and here we are five months later with an arrest. So even if the Tsars aren't linked, the investigation resulting from the first leak probably led to this arrest, and I'm wondering if we'll see additional arrests, but I'm also wondering how this isn't protected under the whistleblower act.

It certainly should be. I mean, I guess... I don't know, it doesn't seem like the government was hiding anything. We have SARS. They're confidential. It's always been that way and she leaked them. So I don't know. But the other one with the Cohen stuff was that somebody noticed two were missing. Right. And I don't know if this is the same person. If they were the same same then maybe it should go under the whistleblower But you're saying if they're separate then maybe it's a There weren't any missing she just took pictures of them and sent them to the press right right are there any

Specific protections though for leaking to the press versus leaking to an intelligence officer So no that's it then yeah, maybe But yeah, I don't know I really I think I need to look at the whistleblower act again and see kind of what it covers. Yeah, I wonder if they would ever add any specific provisions for people that are doing things when the nation is going through a crisis like this, like when there's a really big case that we're all aware of

and she leaks this or whoever leaks this in that case, it seems like it's different from a random, I'm just gonna put someone's personal information I hear for no reason. That's like a whistleblower move. It's not like a, I mean, I guess just gonna put someone's personal information I hear for no reason. That's like a whisperable or move. It's not like a, I mean, I guess I could say it's political. Well, like I have a question, she's being charged for this, but what about the person who leaked Spangenberg,

that's one of the, she's a CIA candidate right now running. She, her application for security clearance got leaked or stolen from the United States Postal Service. That's right. And used in political ads against her. And no one got arrested for that, right? No one got trouble for that. Oh well then they definitely should protect this person. How is leaking that different from leaking this? I'm wondering if there's even an investigation. Yeah. I don't know. I hopefully will find out soon you guys. So. Good story though. Yeah it's really interesting. I just remembered I put those two things together.

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You drafted a rando, and this would fall into that category. None of us have ever heard of this lady. She's a treasurer of some, you know, influence operation in St. Petersburg. But we don't have clarification on whether or not this is molar related or if molar refer to the EDVA. That's the Eastern District of Virginia. This Russian is being charged by main justice for interfering in the Eastern and Eastern District of Virginia for interfering with the midterm elections. But I think maybe going forward, we could include any indictments for Russian interference

that might, because the reason it falls outside of the molar probe is because it's for 2018, it's not for 2016 At least I think in fact honestly, I'm gonna tell you nothing falls outside of the Mueller probe But he's being very careful to only include those things that so that you know He has a bulletproof case and he can't be taken down for saying you know He thought he handed off Cohen he handed off that you know He just keeps handing everything off the only thing he's keeping is this Manafort Stone shit, like Russian shit. So I'm trying to decide, and I think I'm leaning toward allowing indictments of people

in the current election year, and because this is going to go on into 2020 as well. As long as it has to do with Russian interference, I think that maybe we can count it. What do you guys think? Oh, yeah. I know it's a tricky one, but I'm leaning towards Mueller. He's a special prosecutor. So this does have an effect on what he's like in my opinion, just the interference. It seems like he's the only one that's like really on top of the interference aspect. But he had nothing to do with this.

This is the same thing. Well, it's going to be in charge of that. It's main justice in the Eastern Proposal would be in charge of that? Main justice. This is main justice in the Eastern Proposal Couture in the Eastern District of Virginia. Oh, he won't even touch it at all. Okay. Well, we've been doing Southern District stuff, but only because Mueller passed it off to them. He started off with it.

Yeah. Well, he, like, Manafort's being handled in the Eastern District of Virginia, but Mueller has retained the case because it has to do with Russia. But Mueller did not find this. This is not a Mueller thing. Our justice system is actually working and looking for Russians to interfere. And I kind of want to reward that behavior by allowing it to be included in the fantasy and night. I think it's an honorary including.

Yeah, I also think although we are Mueller centric, the issue is Trump-Russia collusion. There you go. So if this conceivably fits into Trump-Russia collusion. Yeah, here's how we can connect it because Trump has done nothing to punish Trump Russia collusion. There you go. If this conceivably fits into Trump Russia collusion. Yeah, here's how we can connect it because Trump has done nothing to punish the Russians. That's why this shit is loud. Yes. And why it's happening.

Who knows, maybe down the line, they would actually find some sort of connection. Yeah, and like I said, I think it still falls under it, yeah. Well, it doesn't, but like I said, we don't know if it does or not, because I do not know if Mueller referred this case or if Justice found it all by their loan, something. Yeah, okay, but like Jordan was saying, even if Dema Lyon, it's a collusion related with that fall under our fantasy league, just under our jurisdiction at all.

And it comes to, it's not Mueller under the name, but it's what he's looking into. But Mueller's not looking into this. Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, so the guy who you're saying, he might later. Okay, kind of the line he's looking into. But Mueller's not looking into this. Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, so the guy who you're saying, he might later. Kind of the line I was drawing is it from Mueller? Does it come from Mueller? Is it an indictment that Mueller created?

You're by handing it off or whatever. In this case, no, but now I'm, what I'm trying to say is, if it's Russian interference, I kind of want to include it, even though it's not Mueller related. Yeah, yeah, just an honor, everyone. I think that's perfect. All right, so we'll we'll count it I appreciate the distinction you're making. I feel an ethical making that argument because I had a random on my team. All of us did

We did. I had a random from last week. Yeah, well, you know, whatever So If you had a random this week, you're gonna get one of the two points for a random. Who? Two points or one point. Oh, one point. One point. I think point I like it. Yeah, it's the lowest one. It's in there. We'll find it the reality exists despite what I say So we're gonna do that and then I'm gonna keep a stone on there. Butina. I like butina Kushner and I'm gonna have two randos because this should could start heating up. Okay, I'm gonna start heating up. Okay, I'm gonna stick with a junior kush Ivanka pop a kush and I'll take off my rando and put stone in that place. Actually I'm gonna take a rando off and put DT junior back on. I just got

to keep mine there. Yeah yeah. I'm doing kush in your stone and three randos. Oh shit. It's like a full house. No junior dang. No junior, huh? No junior right now. All right. All right, guys, you ready for sabotage? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right, guys, this week the Wall Street Journal reported late

Friday, when midday Friday, that Mueller is now looking into the possible connections of Peter Smith to WikiLeaks, saying he knew in advance of the release of the Podesta emails by WikiLeaks much like Stone did. So we've been talking about Peter Smith for a while now, months and months. Actually, ever since Russian roulette came out, he's the political operative that was searching on the dark web for Hillary emails. And he had now, like later on, we found out that he had fun, he had up $150,000 to fund this project, 50,000, we found out that he had fun, he had $150,000 to fund this project,

$50,000, which was his own cash. And he's the guy who killed himself and had, as fixated himself in a hotel room and had a note next to him that said, no foul play whatsoever. Like what kind of, even if you wrote that note, what kind of fucked up guy and fucked up shit are you into where you have to leave a note that said there was no foul play? Exactly. What else happened there? Like I hang out with murderers and shit but they didn't have anything to do with this is all me that's just weird very

weird sad note but apparently is health was failing and so he he took his own life now so he was out looking for shit on the web and now there are Mueller is looking into the possible connections of Peter Smith to Wiki leaks because now apparently there is proof showing that of Peter Smith to WikiLeaks, because now, apparently, there is proof showing that Peter Smith knew about the advance release from WikiLeaks, the strategic timing released of WikiLeaks information. Specifically, I think they're talking about the Podesta emails in this story. It's a really interesting story.

You guys should check it out. This really kind of only bolsters my stone pick for this week for the fantasy indictment league. I don't think you can indict a dead guy. So I don't you know otherwise because I used to have Peter Smith on our fantasy indictment draft list and we had to remove him because I didn't know until we read Russian rule that that he had passed away. Exactly. But you know, then Adam Schiff got all his documents from his estate and so they have it all. So stones the next connection to this let that he had passed away. Exactly. But you know, then Adam Schiff got all of his documents from his estate and so they have it all. So, Stone's the next connection to this guy.

He is and so is Corsi. So, you might want to think about if you want to add Corsi or not. That's a good point. I still have Stone, so I'll stick with him, but what about you guys? I'm keeping mine. Okay. All right, kids. Are you ready to flip it blue? Oh, yeah. And joining us today for our flip it blue segment is Democratic candidate for Senate in Mississippi, David Barrier. David, welcome to Mullershi Road. Thanks for having me, AJ. Glad to join you. Hey, gee, I apologize. No, it's okay. You know what? It doesn't matter. It's not. It's all a pseudonym anyway. So it's actually anything that's not my real name is fine. Got you. Wonderful. So tell us a little bit about what you're trying to do for Mississippi and

Mississippians. Well, we're trying to get rid of our 30 years of Republicans helping themselves rather than helping Mississippians while in Washington serving us, ostensibly, in the United States Senate and in the Congress. We have had leadership in Washington and in Jackson at our state capital that has made a lot of poor decisions that I think were designed to continue to keep us divided as a people rather than to lift us up and unite us so that we can move from 50th place, maybe into 49th or 48th or maybe even into the 30s. And we have the potential to do that in Mississippi, but we've just had really poor leadership for a long time.

And we've done boneheaded things like refuse to take Medicaid expansion under the ACA. And we've prioritized cutting taxes for out-of-state corporations over doing things like funding our K through 12 educational system or fixing roads and bridges in the state. And so I think that it's time to have some leadership that focuses on the things that we need to focus on in Mississippi that helps every day working people. And you know in addition to that we just need somebody with a statewide platform who can change the conversation and let folks outside of our state

know that we're not all backwards and that we can be welcoming We just need a leadership that exemplifies those ideals. Yeah, that's that sounds great. I feel like I mean Mississippi is pretty red as far as You know Republican versus Democrat goes, but yeah, they've kind of been missing that leadership They like you said it's been corporate tax breaks. It's been special interests. Tell us a little bit about your opponent. Well, let me first, if I could respond to something you just said, we're pretty red when you look

at the number of statewide elected officials that are Republican or Democrat. But if you actually look at the numbers and you dig a little deeper, we're really not as red as you would think. And one of the reasons why is we've got the largest black-boding age population of any state. We're at 38 percent. And next door in Alabama, they were significantly lower and they elected a Democrat. Now, the person who was running against Doug Jones was somebody who was loathsome. And we don't have that exact same dynamic in this race. But my opponent is Roger Wicker. I call him Robert Stamp Roger, because he, a lot of Republicans

in Congress now really doesn't have a thought or an idea of his own. He simply adopts what our current president says, and they brag about being, you know, 100% in alignment with our president. You know, we had a senator who just retired, so we have two Senate races on the ballot this year. Our other senator, that Cochrane was actually a statesman.

You can't really say that about my opponent. He's been in Washington for 24 years, 12 years in the house, 12 years in the Senate, and there's just not much to show for it. So, you know, this is a person who sort of fits the Republican mold, you know, he's an older white dude, and you know, he's a part of the establishment, but you just, you know, he's not that inspiring

to moderate Republicans and independents are certainly not to Democrats. Now he a Trump Republican or is he I mean I guess sort of all Republicans are sort of fallen line with Trump Trump's kind of taken over the Republican Party but would you say he's more of a Trump Republican or an old school Republican? He was an old school Republican who has become a Trump Republican and that's one of the reasons why I'm running against him and frankly I think that's one of the reasons why I'm running against him. And frankly, I think that's one of the reasons why I think we have a very good shot at beating

him. And the other thing that I think is important for folks to know is that despite having five or six million dollars in the bank and despite having served in Washington for 24 years, he doesn't have any polling results in the last two years that show him above 47 or 48 percent. And in a recent NBC poll, he's actually slipped backwards down to 43 percent. And that particular poll under sampled the black vote by about eight points. So when adjusted for that, he's actually down around 40 or maybe 39. And I am getting in that poll, I would be very, very close when adjusted for

the black vote in a midterm election. Now, I know in some states right now like Georgia and North Dakota, they're facing a lot of voter suppression issues. Do you have any of that going on in Mississippi? Well, none that we know of. We've sort of gone through that battle with regard to voter ID. And our voter ID law is not as drastic as some other states, but we've gone through that process. And then we, from time to time, see voter purges

and that sort of thing, we haven't really noticed anything of late. But we went through that process a couple of years ago. OK, well, that's good. That's good news. That is getting process a couple of years ago. Okay, well that's good, that's good news. That is getting to a lot of people, some of those ID laws that are coming out and closing polling places and making it hard

to get a driver's license, et cetera, especially disenfranchising marginalized voters. So that's good that you're not seeing that there. And finally, I wanted to talk about, you touched on it a little bit about talking to your, talking about your Medicare expansion that you guys did not take. A lot of, a lot of Republican governors

didn't take that money. They left, you know, millions, if not billions on the table. And yeah, absolutely. We've been holding a series of town halls around the state and generally speaking, the first question, the first substantive question is always about health care. So it's clearly on the minds of Mississippians, as well as Americans more generally.

And my opponent has been amongst that group that has voted to weaken protections for people with preexisting conditions while in Congress. And you probably are aware this, but there are about 52 million Americans that have a preexisting condition that would let insurance companies deny coverage if the ACA didn't prohibit that.

So, you know, while the ACA was not perfect, it was a damn good start. And it's something that we should have had bipartisan support to try to improve so that we improve healthcare throughout America. And obviously we all know that what happened was the Republicans voted 72 or three times in the House to try to repeal it with nothing to replace it. And they're continuing to talk about trying to pull that rug that is now insured 20 million

Americans out from under them. And in Mississippi, we have a very direct result, negative result, based on our failure to expand and medicate in that we have rural hospitals that are failing. We have five that have filed bankruptcy in just the last two months. We have others that are having to close emergency rooms and are to sell off to large healthcare conglomerates.

And so it's a really an acute problem to borrow from medical terminology in Mississippi right now. And we have one in Clark State, Mississippi in the Delta that has 484 employees. And the county has been given two weeks to try to figure out what to do. Because the Tennessee company, I think it's Cure Ray, has filed bankruptcy and is now threatening to close at hospital. So it's a very, very serious issue because we have such large rural areas in Mississippi

where folks are already driving a long way just to go to the hospital. And then if they're nearest one closes, you can see the problem that that would lead to. Yeah, and that's astounding to me, but can you maybe tell, healthcare I think is the number one issue on voters minds this election.

I'm so glad that you're focused on healthcare and that you're focused on these issues in this upcoming election. Can you tell me where people can maybe donate to your campaign or where they can find information on your platforms and your campaign? Absolutely, and thank you for the opportunity to do that. donate to your campaign or where they can find information on your platforms and your campaign? Absolutely. And thank you for the opportunity to do that.

Our website is www.baria. That's B-A-R-I-A-F-O-R. Mississippi spelled out.com. And there is a donate link on the website along with my various positions on our platform on policy issues. I'm also on social media, on Facebook, and on Twitter, and Instagram as well. And if someone wants to email the campaign

for specific information, they can do that at info at variaformasacipi.com. And of course, we would welcome any contribution large or small. We're still fundraising in this last two weeks stretch. In fact, I'm going to one here in just a couple of hours. So we would appreciate any help that anyone wants to provide. Help us flip a very red seat to blue in Mississippi.

This is actually achievable in our state this year. We could actually elect two Democrats to represent the state of Mississippi. Yeah, that would be amazing. So, so David, I found out you have a podcast called Civil Conversations. And recently, you had some discussion on your podcast about how Trump was at his rally mocking Dr. Blase Ford. She was the woman that was wrapped up in the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings and the Me Too

movement. Can you talk a little bit about some of those conversations? You had maybe a little bit about your podcast? Yeah, I'll be happy to talk about it. The podcast has been interesting for me. We started it because we thought people might be interested in knowing why the sort of story behind why the Mississippi legislature does some of the crazy things that it does. And so I interviewed several of my colleagues, both Democrat and Republican,

and they were kind enough to sit down and talk through with me, you know, they're thinking behind the way they craft policy over the Capitol. And so that's the story behind civil conversations, but the particular episode that you're referring to, we've taped it right after the press flew into South Haven, Mississippi, and held the big rally where my opponent was there, and also Senator Cindy Hyde Smith, who's also running this year. She was also there, and he made the atrocious comments that he made making fun of Dr. Blasey Ford.

And it just so happened that I was holding one of Dr. Blasai Ford and it just so happened that I was holding one of my town halls about a mile and a half from where the president came in. We scheduled hours first, you know, they came in and just just happened to be in the same area in close proximity and I didn't hear the comments until later because I was holding my town hall and when I heard them it was just nauseating and you know it's our president trades in cruelty. He likes to be cruel to people.

He thinks it elevates him somehow and so it was just sickening to see the crowd of folks there. I know you know is that particular location is right on the state line between Tennessee and Mississippi. So I know that they weren't all Mississippians, but they were, there were a lot of Mississippians laughing as the president Mott and demeaned a person who I think showed great courage in coming forward with nothing to gain and telling her story. And so to me, it brought to mind other times in Mississippi history when good people stood by and allowed bad things to happen.

And there were a few that would stand up every now and then, but for a long time, there were good people who stood by and did nothing. And I just reflected on... Sometimes that's worse, right? When good people stand by and did nothing. And I just reflected on... Sometimes that's worse, right? When good people stand by and do nothing. That's so, yeah, sometimes that's worse.

Well, it gives tacit approval to the terrible acts. And so my opponent, Roger Wicker, was there in that crowd that night. I don't know if there's any video of him actually clapping or laughing, but we have to presume everybody in there seemed to enjoy it. So I think there was an article written shortly after that about this issue of the president's cruelty and other folks who are similar actors, and they compared the lynchings back in

the 40s and 50s, and think it maybe even into 60s in some places where folks would stand by and just watch cruelty. It was it was a spectacle and they seem to enjoy it and and so it's very sad to me that there's always but demonize the other for some folks whether that is that other is folks with dark skin or women or Muslims or whatever you want to select as the other to put down to make yourself feel better. And Mississippi has a sorted path of doing that and I would have hoped that we would move forward and we have some, but obviously we still fall back into that those old ways every now and then and there's this old adage in Mississippi that came to mind And that is and I don't know who said it But as it goes this way as long as one man is holding another man in the ditch with his boot on his neck

They're both stuck in the ditch and to me that sort of Sums up where we've been in Mississippi for way too long and that's another reason why I'm running for the United States Senate I want to change that That's quite a powerful image And I you know to think about it, you know like let's both Get out of the ditch and move forward together Exactly you have to you have to have a little empathy with people that you Represent to be able to to hear what they have to say and to be able to craft policies that lift people up and unite.

And that's the only way the Mississippi is ever going to move forward. If we keep holding our boot metaphorically on another man's neck and the ditch, then we're all stuck in the ditch. Yeah, and I had no idea your opponent was at that rally that night when they were all mocking and laughing. That blas I for was. Wow, that's that's a they were all mocking and laughing at Blasey for. He was. Wow, that's a lot to think about. Well, there are a lot of powerful images there. And it's just sad because as much as you like to think that we as a people have moved forward, we're really not fully embracing the 21st century.

And one of the things that I talk about is I'm going to these town halls is there are a lot of systemic problems in Mississippi. There's education, there's health care, there's infrastructure. We have this brain drain where you are leaving our state droves. But a very simple thing that we do that would speak volumes is to simply take down our state flag and put it in a museum. It's the only flag left in America that still has the stars and bars of the Confederacy, which is the rallying flag for the KKK and skinheads and you know, these white supremacists. And it would just speak volumes to the world, I think, if Mississippi was to put that flag away and say, look, we are going to turn the corner, we're going to be welcoming to everyone, we're going to join the 21st century. Why don't you come to Mississippi and help us?

And right now, we don't have leadership that they want to do that. Well, that would be a very powerful message. So you're for a new flag for Mississippi? Absolutely. And I don't have any particular flag in mind other than the Stennis flag that is out there. I'm not, you know, I don't say that.

It has to be that one, but that is a, it's got a good story behind it. It's created by the granddaughter of Senator John Stennis who was a Mississippi Senator way back in the day. And, you know, I think it's, it just tells a good story. And it is something that we could all embrace, you embrace. It's not been used by any hate group, it's not been used for any particular purpose other than just a lot of folks are flying it now and it's a good flag. Flag needs to be something that people can rally around rather than being offensive to

40% of the people who have to walk into buildings and in universities and in public places where that flag is flying. What a great idea. Yeah, I was, I'm former Navy. We have an aircraft carrier named after your senator and what he was a great man. Yeah, he did a lot for the state of Mississippi and in Mississippi, you know, we have representatives

in Washington who once they go up there, they tend to serve for about as long as they want, particularly when they're doing good things. And Dennis was a great senator, but the people that we have in Washington now, I don't think anybody can really say that about. That's a very good point. David Barrier, thank you so much for joining us today.

Is there anything else you'd like to add or any other website you'd like to talk about or places people can go to support your campaign? No, I've mentioned my website. I've mentioned the social media. We have an ad up and running on television and we're trying to keep it up. And people should keep in mind that we're running

against someone who is entrenched and he's got a lot of money. And we're doing a lot with a little. I've always run against folks with greater resources and I have one four times now. And I think we can win this time too. We're just trying to raise enough money to do what we need to do and continue to work our grassroots effort, which is obviously more powerful than monthly. It is. It's, yeah, again, grassroots campaigning, people on the streets, bring three friends who aren't going to vote, take them to vote, get young people out. Everybody visit barriahforMrscippy.com. That's B-A-R-I-A, the word for F-O-R, Mrscippy.com.

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