Jack - That's So Mehta (feat. God)

Episode Date: May 27, 2019

S3E21 - Joining us this week is...God! Plus, we give updates on the Deutsche Bank/Trump/Kushner love triangle, Trump giving Barr a VIP all-you-can obstruct pass to investigate the Mueller investigatio...n, the latest series of indictments, and more! Enjoy! 

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Starting point is 00:01:27 That's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I didn't have not have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for having nothing to do with Putin? I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So it is political. You're a communist. No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Hello and welcome to Muller She Wrote. I'm your host A.G. and with me as always,
Starting point is 00:02:16 Archie Lisa Johnson. Hello. And Jordan Coburn. Hello. How was your week guys? Good! Yeah. I got with the girlfriend. What about you, Jordan? It was good. Dad had had surgery everything went really well And now he's just waiting to get his next surgery on his torn bicep Right before his back surgery. He went and did some Baton real is at the velodrome and and completely ripped his bicep from its elbow holder Technical term for that and I've been Nice Medicare or not Medicare, but I've
Starting point is 00:02:47 been in healthcare for quite a while. I don't know the technical term for that. Well, you're the most qualified to just make up something. So I'll take your word for it. Elbow holder sounds good. Yep. To me. So, yep. So now he's going to recover from back surgery and then he gets to go and get that fixed. Yeah. Well, I'm glad he's in good spirits and doing well at least and I'm glad to have you back. Totally. Yeah. Thank you for the good vibes that everyone sent to. They were failed and heard and everything went great.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah. And I know you asked for a rain dance and I was like, no, I'm tired of the rain. And then it was sunny the next day. Yeah. You asked for a sunshine dance instead and we got some sunshine. It worked out.
Starting point is 00:03:20 So do that again, please. Thank you, guys, for memorial dance. Thank you. I'm going to bring you great. Yeah, because it's gross out. Yeah. Please send videos of your sunshine dances. Oh, yeah, hashtag sunshine dance Video, yeah, are we soliciting cultural appropriation? No, you know, I don't I mean, I can't say I am not I guess Native American would be what you're thinking I was insinuating Wicken. Oh Very well. I was just thinking about hipster fans.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Very wide. Very wide. Yeah, I don't know. I think if we separate the rain dance from the sunshine dance, like it's whole new thing, then I think we're good. Yeah, no, I think the Wicken defense is good. That's very different.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yeah. Oh my. It'llicked Defenses. Yeah. Oh my. It'll have to do. Okay. Yeah. I went to a Wicked Celebration a couple weeks ago and it gets, uh, no. Okay. Unfortunately, I guess it was in public.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So maybe that was not an option or something, but, uh, but there was dancing for sure. Dancing and chanting and polls and ribbons. Mm-hmm. They do a lot of that. So. Yeah. And, hey, if that's the thing, right on, because it worked, because it got to Sunshine. I have never float your boat.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Totally, I was fucked by a coven of witches. Sorry, what's that movie? Oh, four rooms. I have not seen that one. I said be there, but it sounds really good. It's good. Tim Roth, isn't it? It's really fun.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You should check it out. There's probably someone in there who's been me, too. But it's a cute movie. Most movies, unfortunately. Right. And we still haven't found a clean 80s movie. Oh, yeah, let us know guys. If you come across one, I think we got the Princess bride in there, which I thought was great, except for the part where he's like, won't you trust me? Would you take my word as a spaniard? And he's like, no, I've known too many spaniards. I don't know if that could probably be taken the wrong way. It could have been worse
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah, because it's literally horrible. Yes Like I don't know if you could take that the right way. Oh, yeah I thought you were placed that with black people I'd be really offended. So who am I to say that's okay? Yeah, I know too many black people. It's like damn that sounds racist. Yeah, yeah, I've known too many spaniards Won't you trust me nothing comes to mind yeah so let's see here it's been an incredibly newsworthy week you guys multiple court wins for Democrats which will hit in the hot notes today multiple indictments this week which we'll cover during the fantasy indictment league we have a live show in Minneapolis at the Parkway Theater June 14th we're thinking of setting up a
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Starting point is 00:07:33 We're setting them up for success. It's better for everybody this way. We are. So, yeah, head to mooshirout.com, click contact and select corrections. If you have any corrections from any of our daily episodes or this episode, we want to get it right. It's important to us. Yeah, yeah, and did you want to mention the correction we got about Oreos? We're going to go through all the corrections now. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, because we only had one last week, but we got a few this week. Yeah, we backed up. I think we messed some stuff up. During the daily updates, I had asked how the anti-abortion laws were going to get around HIPAA laws, which is the health care privacy. Health care insurance, portability, and accountability act is what HIPAA stands for, not that I'm an expert. And these are the privacy laws about health care. However, it was pointed out that there are exceptions for judicial proceedings in law enforcement, which means if a prosecutor wanted to make sure you had a miscarriage and not an abortion or vice versa, they could subpoena your medical records and your doctor would have to hand them over.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Gross. Yeah. Along the same lines, when we discussed the fetal heartbeat bills, we were talking like they can actually hear a heartbeat at six weeks when they actually cannot. These are electronic pulses coming from a massive cells and not a fully formed heart. So these are misnamed as heartbeat bills. Interesting. I guess the other one will be a little long, you know. Electronic pulses from a massive group of cells, Bill. Yeah, the Republicans wouldn't really latch onto that one. Doesn't roll off the tongue. No. Then they have to think about science. It would just scare them away. Maybe they don't like this. Yeah. I don't like this at all. But anyway, yeah, so thank you for that. I'm gonna make sure not to call them heartbeat bills
Starting point is 00:09:06 Because the feeders can't have a heartbeat at six weeks or eight weeks or 15 weeks or anything like that So I still like the idea of their Republican heartbeat bill. You know, I search for their heart I'll never find it Forever stuck in committee. Yeah There are hearts got stuck in committee this week and that's where they died. I was told I said substantive and it's or I said substantive and it's substantive. Okay. I did know that.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Both either are correct but substantive is the preferred pronunciation of that. I like to convert to conversate or those totally different. Well, conversate was just added to the Oxford English dictionary. It was never a word. It was never a word to begin with, but now it is. Now that's how language works. Yeah, it'd be like that. I don't know how the universe do what it does, but it'd be black science man.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I met him. I met black science man. Dude, we got photos with Neil deGress. I love him so much. Ii and I had a man. He did. We got photos with Neil deGress. I love him so much. I know. He's so wonderful. In the daily episode called Meet the Flynn Stones, Jalisa jokingly said, we aren't colorologists. And you were corrected. The actual term is cromologist.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I think you were just being funny. It was pretty close though. Colorologist is probably like a hair person. Definitely, yeah, yeah. That's actually just a colorist. One time someone asked me to just check their nipple out for something and I was like, I'm not a nippleologist, so that's what I had in mind.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You just add that to it. And not all of just the end of anything. Yeah. Colorologist is like a kindergartener. Oh yeah. Emma can be really adorable. Inside the lines. Let's see here. We also learned that we don't exert privilege.
Starting point is 00:10:47 We invoke assert or claim it. So thank you. Good to know. And what was the first, what was incorrect one? We don't exert privilege. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know that yet.
Starting point is 00:10:57 We invoke assert or claim it. I mean, you could say it, but it's more proper to say that you invoke assert or claim privilege. Okay. Cool. Whether it's executive or to say that you invoke a search or claim privilege. Okay. Cool. Whether it's executive or white or whatever kind of privilege you're doing. Those two things are kind of the same.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Pretty much. The Android version of Siri is not, hey, Google, it's okay, Google. And I hope I didn't just set off all of your devices. In a rough term podcast. Alexa, play Mueller, she wrote. Okay, and here's what you were talking about, Julie, so we got a note about the term Oreo from someone who says that they have been called an Oreo,
Starting point is 00:11:31 and she says she can't help it. She loves white things and black things. And if we called her on the phone, we would 100% assume she was a middle aged white woman, but she says an Oreo is not a race traitor or an Uncle Tom. She says Ben Carson is for sure a piece of shit, but an Oreo and an Uncle Tom are mutually exclusive things. I like that.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah, I can definitely relate to being called an Oreo and feeling like negative feelings about that, but I like the fact that she's embracing the fact that she likes all kinds of things, all different types of cultures. And yeah, I like that perspective a lot. Yeah, I think it's more the person who calls someone an Oreo that's an asshole than the actual person who's being fooled and Oreo. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think it's more the person who calls someone in Oreo that's an asshole than the actual person who's being fooled in Oreo. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Probably. I would at least I would feel that way, but I can see the only guess. Yeah, that that would be a really useful distinction for sure. I've found that some people have
Starting point is 00:12:17 have used Oreo like in a really weird self-internalized way like, oh, I'm proud that I act white or I'd rather be white and I've seen that it falls under more uncle Tom like she was saying it's better to keep that probably separate. Okay, yeah for clarity I mean he's holding me yeah makes sense. Yeah, I mean everyone's got their own experience right? Jordan we got a few emails about eclipse ball. Oh, yes. Did you mean a lip-sball? Oh? Yes Yeah, I can see how you wait how did I how did we not catch that well? I've never heard I was just too old Yeah, yeah, you lose balls. This is the first time hearing about that. Yes oval shape. Oh, it's not called a knee clip
Starting point is 00:12:57 Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, so okay here we go I thought your eclipse ball was shaped like a like a crescent moon. Yeah, you know how the eclipse Presented like a G-Shake on that I forgot that they're totally separate honestly like I always assume an eclipse is an e-lips I forgot any lips was the actual word for the shape of like a stretch down. Yeah circle And e-clips is just when something goes over something. Yeah, like any like a lunar or solar eclipse Yes, this reminds me of when I was a child and I for some reason kept calling horses forces
Starting point is 00:13:31 That's hilarious and my mom didn't correct me because she thought it was cute Aww, but thankfully you all are not my mom. So yes, yes, here we are Yeah, I never got corrected for calling them happy grasser bugs Snakes are danger noodles. Danger noodle. Well, yeah. Yeah, that's more of an adult. True. True.
Starting point is 00:13:49 We have many funny things that you called stuff when you were a kid. Let us send them to us. Send us to us. Because I used to have different names. Like if I wanted my dad to carry something, I would ask him to heavy it. Yes. Heavy this. Yeah, when I was a kid, I had to say last name is Johnson.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I thought that we had some kind of stock in Johnson and Johnson. I don't know if that counts. Oh, look you were the heir to Johnson. Yeah, I was like a kid, I explained last name's Johnson. I thought that we had some kind of stock in Johnson and Johnson. I don't know if that counts. Oh, look, you were the air of Johnson and Johnson. Yeah, I was like, why are we poor? Yeah. Like, what's up with this war? Yeah, why are we buying baby oil?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Should we have a lifetime supply? I was so confused. Where's our lifetime supply? Baby powder. All right, and then regarding our story about Trump's plan to pardon war criminals, which we'll go over again later in this show. We did this during a daily episode this week for patrons. And whether or not that violates some kind of international war crime, a few folks wrote
Starting point is 00:14:32 to remind us that the U.S. Congress has not ratified the Rome statute. And therefore, we are not an international criminal court member state. Ergo, they do not have jurisdiction over American war criminals. So there you go. Next answer to that. All right, guys, those are corrections. We now have a place like I said specifically for those corrections, head to mullershirope.com,
Starting point is 00:14:51 contact, select corrections, and fill out the form. We'll get it right eventually, we promise. That's so slogan. I know, we'll get it right eventually. We promise. We sound like a super like legit news organization. When your tagline is, we'll get it right eventually. That says.
Starting point is 00:15:08 But you know, we're not lawyers, we're not colorologists. I'm a said, I'm not a doctor, but I am. Yeah, we don't, you know, shit, we're comedians. Right, yeah. Let us know what's wrong. We'll take care of it. All right, guys, that's that. Let's get into the more news with just the facts.
Starting point is 00:15:23 All right, we found out this week that Deutsche Bank employee was fired for flagging Trump and Kushner transactions for potential money laundering. And Jordan, you have that story for us in hot notes a little bit later. And Trump may be preparing pardons for servicemen accused of war crimes, as we were talking about in corrections, as the White House has made expedited requests this week for paperwork needed to pardon servicemen from some very high profile cases including murder, attempted murder, and desecration of a corpse. And he wants to pardon these guys on or around Memorial Day was what was seen in the memos. So gross.
Starting point is 00:15:56 One of the requests is for Special Ops Chief Gallagher and Navy SEAL who breaks water melons with hammers. No. A Navy SEAL who shot an... Oh no, I'm sorry, I don't mean to joke about the season actually literally horrible yeah big just the position that uh... navy seal he shot unarmed civilians and murdered an enemy captive with a knife well deployed to a rack other potential partners include the case of a black water security contractor that's the black water is
Starting point is 00:16:18 the former private contracting uh... security agency headed up by air a prance sisters that's a devash he's our edgima case and said you can't see that security agency headed up by Eric Prince, his sister is Betsy DeVos, she's our edgimication secretary. And anyway, he was found guilty of shooting dozens of unarmed Iraqis, and then an army green baray accused of murdering an unarmed Afghan woman and stabbing a teenager. And then a group of Marines charged with urinating
Starting point is 00:16:39 on the corpses of dead Taliban fighters that was caught on video. So it's not like maybe he's guilty, maybe they're guilty. Wow. Veterans groups and many at the Pentagon are outraged by this possible move as any such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law and undercut order in the ranks.
Starting point is 00:16:53 It could encourage this kind of behavior. Yeah, and there's always been like a big discussion about the military courts versus like the public courts, right? Like, because the military I guess they're known for looking after their own, is that the idea? Like in this case, it's gonna be hard to prosecute them because they'll probably be like, well, they're like some of our top guys.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Like is that? No, they're already found guilty. Oh, so they're, they're okay. They're guilty, yeah. Great, great. Like, I was more than a military justice and court martial, pretty straightforward courts, especially in these high profile cases.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, yeah. I guess they did tend to sweep some rape cases under the rug, but those never made it to the, you know, never made it to the shop. I see. Okay. So they're usually on top of their shit. Yeah, it's dope.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah, I'm glad these guys were brought to justice, but it is sad to think that they were even able to get away with it at the time. Like, who is allowing that to happen? Were they in charge of themselves? Or like, is there, you know, if there's someone who else who was responsible for them or something? Yeah, apparently those people turned them in. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:17:45 And that's why they were prosecuted. Good. Yeah, so like people saw these Marines like urinating on corpses and took video and they're like, and somebody got ahold of the video and you can't do this. See something, say something. I'm glad. Yeah, most of the people, I don't know, I can't even think about giving a percentage, but you may almost be more like, you're not allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I'm glad, yeah. Unless some shit happens in a vacuum like Abu Ghraib, where it's percentage, but you may almost be more like, you're not allowed to do that. I'm glad. Yeah. Unless some shit happens in a vacuum like Abu Ghraib, where it's a, you know, an enclosed community and they all start acting that way. Yeah. But generally there's somebody who's going to be like, that shit ain't right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the way it should be.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So that makes me happy. I just get a little suspicious of the military sometimes, but it's good to know that they're getting these fuckers. How long ago was this, you know? 2010, 2006. Oh, it's a long time ago. Yeah, so and these guys, yeah, well Trump wants to pardon them on Memorial Day. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:18:35 That's true. Yeah, for some reason that part like escaped me for a moment. I was just so disturbed by the facts of the case, but then to think that on top of that, this is a guy that Trump wants to part in. Yeah, ridiculous. Yep, and like I said, lots of people are pretty outraged by this, including myself as a veteran, like, come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And a follow-up story we did last week about Jerry Falwell, Jr. and how Cohen apparently obtained and kept a dirty photograph of him right around the time Falwell endorsed Trump for president, helping him secure the important evangelical vote. It was rumored that the photograph may or may not have had something to do with an employee of Falwell's, a 21-year-old pool guy named, oh, I'll give you his name in a second, what is it?
Starting point is 00:19:13 GM Carlo Grenada. And also... Is it Grenada? Grenada. Is it Grenada? Yeah. Grenada, you're right. OK, OK.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Ha ha, don't send the correction. Thank you, Jordan. And Falwell's wife, right? They said something like this is these photographs that should be between a husband and wife for something like that. We simply don't have any further information on the nature of the relationship between Falwell and the pool guy, but we learn this week from Buzzfeed that Falwell lent 1.8 million dollars lent. Gave 1.8 million dollars to the pool guy for a business venture after he and his wife befriended him during a stay at a luxury hotel in 2012.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Wow. In a may lawsuit filed by a father and son who were boxed out of that business venture, it's alleged that the father was a developed a friendly relationship with Giancarlo Grande at the Fontaine Blue Miami Beach, flying him. What the fuck? Everything happens in Florida. Oh yeah. All the Florida man stories.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Oh, Florida man. And so we're flying him in a private jet and then offering him financial assistance before ultimately setting him up with this hostile business. London, a million dollars for that and then another $800,000 in just cheese. Right, so there's like a sugar daddy
Starting point is 00:20:22 and mommy situation happening here. Seems like it. There's no proof of that yet. But, So there's like a sugar daddy and mommy situation happening here. Seems like it. There's no proof of that. Except there is a photograph of something weird. Yeah. I know people are sensitive about these kind of things, but I have nothing against like if it's a consensual dynamic, but people are worried that maybe there's a power trip, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's there's nothing that like irrevocably ties those two to events together, this business relationship, and then that photo, but it's yeah, just being speculated.
Starting point is 00:20:48 For sure. Yeah, these are all beans. So, but anyway, that's the reporting, but it seems clear to me, Cohen has a photo of at least two of the three of them in Flegante, Delicdo, and used it to force Falwell to endorse the least Christian Republican candidate ever.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So put some beans on that. But again, that's just, I'm just connecting dots in my head. Yeah. Yeah. The hypocrisy is definitely concerning. I can see why this is like a story that isn't a news because some people would say this is too gossipy. But I think the idea is that this guy is obviously preaching like the opposite of what he practices
Starting point is 00:21:19 and he's a powerful person. Yeah. If you bribe the president of Liberty University to endorse your candidacy by using this photo, then it becomes a public problem. Totally. If you cover up the ground by the pussy tape and then you're grabbing people by the pussy behind those doors, maybe, even consensually, I wanna know.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Grabbing them by the G and Carla. Yeah, yeah. Grabbing them by the Grande. Yeah. I like that one. And hey, I'm all for it. I love, you know, three ways with your pool guy. Fucking high five.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Give them a million dollars, fly them around in private jet. High five five also being the president of Liberty University and being extorted to endorse Trump priceless Exactly Yeah, no, I definitely just want to want to know that this person is not being exploited and if they are it's just another reason Why this man should not be in the position of power. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. And if it was all, even if it was all on the up and up, and there was all consensual, you still aren't allowed to bride people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Still hypocritical. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And whatever picture it is, it can't be very Christian. I imagine if he's saying, at least the way that he practices God, said no part in that picture. There were orges in the Bible. Oh, I didn't get to that chapter. There must have been Manafort's justification. Yeah, I'm all for orgy's. Concentral orgy's, everyone signs a form. Get on board. He wrote all of those Christmas tree air fresheners.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Yeah, good to go. Yeah, good to go. OK, this week we learned that the Southern District of New York has obtained thousands of documents from the Trump inaugural. From a subpoena, it issued last December. The next steps would be to call witnesses before a grand jury. This case could take some time, but I'm hoping it all comes out at the height of campaign season.
Starting point is 00:22:58 That would be fantastic. Again, I want to be clear, I think Trump should be impeached. But as we know, he would probably not be removed by the Senate, but it is our job to impeach him. So we will probably have to vote him out. And the more crimes we uncover during the election cycle, the better. Yeah. Someone said, you should run for a Senate so we can help our chances of like flipping that shit. We need 32 seats to be able to move. Oh, damn it. Anywhere. I had to move to whatever state I was running in. I don't think you have to technically live there, but it's hard to come in as an outsider.
Starting point is 00:23:29 We don't need any Democratic senators in California. She can do that sound. It doesn't have to be Senator, though, because it would be like a rep. Yeah. You work your way up to Senator. Just some bots and beans out there. I don't know. I have too many comedy tapes out on the internet.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I mean, I never grabbed anybody's boobs like Al Franken, but I might have grabbed my own and somebody might, hey, that's such as empowering. So yes, Southern District of New York could indict Trump, I guess, for some of these inaugural crimes because there's been rumors that Southern District of New York is like, we're not listening to your stupid department of justice policy that says you can't indict a sitting president. They didn't do it when they indicted Agnew back in the day. But as we all know, they could like try,
Starting point is 00:24:10 like maybe indict him before some to resign, like the Agnew situation, which was outlined in the Bagman podcast. But as we know, if he resigns, he'll be pardoned of all of his crimes. So I kind of feel like I want him to be impeached and not removed and then voted the fuck out and then arrested. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:31 That's kind of my, that's what I want. And in order to ensure that we vote in numbers too big to manipulate and that he goes down in 2020, the more shit that comes out next year about him the better. Yeah, and usually it's harder to beat an incumbent, but in Trump's case, I think there might be an exception. He might be the most beatable incumbent. Right, right. We still gotta resist and put up a fight, but yeah, I do think it's possible.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I don't think this is crazy. I don't think so either, but this tone almost makes me nervous because it's like a flashback to Hillary. Or that's why I was, I was, I was, I was, I thought I'd kill her for sure when. At least this time I'm like Trump could win so I'm gonna put up a fight Yeah, but but we got to believe that we can do it totally yeah, but I understand you're reluctant short And yeah, yeah PTSD for sure seriously God all right guys former White House Council and star witness in
Starting point is 00:25:18 Muller's findings of at least 12 instances of obstruction of justice 10 of which appeared to meet the criteria for criminal prosecution. Don McGann, he failed to comply with his appena to testify. He did not show up for his congressional hearing this week, as we expected, because the White House is telling all four more at former advisors not to show up, claiming executive privilege over the entire Mueller report and all documents used to compile it, basically. And therefore, any testimony based on any other documents or the Mueller report is somehow protected by executive privilege. I'm not surprised if I were McGann
Starting point is 00:25:49 and the president was providing an excuse not to testify to Congress, I probably wouldn't show up either if I was a criminal. The committee has not yet voted to hold him in contempt. I think these are these beans coming that they're going to assemble a contempt subcommittee and file contempt charges on everyone all at once, or at least multiple witnesses.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And we learned in the meantime that the Dems seem to have a new strategy for public hearings that they're planning to launch after Memorial Day. And these contempt charges seem to be part of like a phase two. Phase one, according to Ted Liu, is to call a panel of former prosecutors, some of the nearly 1,000 of them that signed that letter saying Trump is guilty of obstruction, and have that panel of experts answer questions in the committee in public testimony about obstruction. Meanwhile, they'll run their contempt subpoenas for folks like McGann and Andy Donaldson
Starting point is 00:26:39 and Hope Hicks and Don Jr. maybe and Mueller. Run those all through the court system. Even though calling these hearings an impeachment inquiry would effectively turn the house into a grand jury and legally help expedite the subpoenas, Pelosi is still refusing to do so, saying she thinks she'll be able to force compliance just as fast after seeing how fast two other court decisions were made on subpoenas to Mazar's Deutsche Bank in Capital One this week. And we'll get into those in the hot notes. I have to tell you about this letter that Ted Liu wrote to Bar this week.
Starting point is 00:27:08 It's absolutely fantastic. He said, it's just a little tiny letter on May 22nd, and he says, dear attorney, dear attorney general Bar. Earlier today, the president stated emphatically, quote, I don't do cover-ups. You people know that, unquote. He also stated, quote,'m the most transparent president, probably in the history of this country. Unquote, in light of the
Starting point is 00:27:30 president's statements, please let me know what time tomorrow I can come and come over and review the unredacted Mueller report. I simply request the same access you gave to Republican Congressman Doug Collins. Sincerely, Ted Lou. I love him. I know, that's so funny. And I couldn't believe Trump was like, I'm the most transparent president, I don't do cover-ups, okay. You know, Denison, what's his name? Oh, John Denison or David Denison?
Starting point is 00:27:54 David Denison. John Barron. John Barron, John Miller. John Miller, okay. Yeah, no cover-ups. What? These are his alter-egos. If you were a rapper, it'd be totally fine.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But those are fake names he's used to cover shit up Oh, yeah Like Beyonce has Sasha fears, you know Okay, thank you. I was so confused. I was like is this a movie reference? It's a dinner. Yeah, it's like it's a future quote again Yeah, someone had a picture of him with a mustache and they were like David then is Ew In a related story Adam ship not you to moustaches
Starting point is 00:28:23 Just with a mustache. In a related story, Adam Schiff was going to hold bar and contempt this past Wednesday for not complying with the House Intelligence Committee's subpoena for Mueller's counterintelligence and intelligence material. As we've been reporting, the counterintelligence piece of the investigation is missing from the Mueller report. No one knows where it is. Adam Schiff did know where it was.
Starting point is 00:28:44 So he's subpoenaed bar for it. And even though there were 40 FBI agents co-located with the special counsel reporting back to FBI headquarters, Annie and all information uncovered that has to do with counterintelligence information, which is the investigation that would determine if anyone in the Trump orbit or Trump himself were compromised by a foreign power, how badly they were compromised, and to what degree of confidence they know that they're compromised. The assistant attorney general Stephen Boyd wrote a letter to Schiff saying, if you don't hold your contempt vote, we'll give you some of the stuff. And Schiff was like, nah, I'm keeping the vote. But at the last minute, Department of Justice Caved
Starting point is 00:29:17 and agreed to start handing over counterintelligence materials to the intelligence committee. So I don't think we'll learn much about what these material, what's in these materials, because they're super highly classified. But watch how the House Intelligence Committee behaves in the coming weeks after they view this as the information starts coming in. You might see shifts start to get paler, you know, maybe his eyes get a little wider. Just watch for that in interviews where you see them. And the devil's mermaid, Maria Bouton, is back in the news this week having released a video
Starting point is 00:29:46 from jail. As you all know, she is serving a prison sentence for acting as an unregistered foreign agent. And in a video obtained by CBS this week, which was also posted on public media, as you know, social media, she's asking people to help pay her legal fees. I guess that sweet, sweet Paul Erickson Beauty and the Beast Money Train jumped the track. So she needs to raise her own money now. Yeah, her Prince Eric is gone. Oh, Beauty and the Beast. Royters reported this week that Trump is using campaign funds and Republican National
Starting point is 00:30:16 Committee money to pay his legal bills for the Russia probe. This is money donated by Trump's supporters to his reelection campaign in the RNC and the RNC paid more than $230,000 to Trump lawyers, including Dowd and a Constitutional litigation and advocacy group or Seculow and some other Trump attorneys work. But the craziest part, we learn the RNC paid $2 million to the McGann law firm Jones Day in their latest FEC filing and we learned this, you know, the same week McGann refused to testify. And I know this looks really bad, but I want to clarify that the payment was a bulk
Starting point is 00:30:47 payment for a bunch of stuff, even though it's like 20 times more than any other single payment to the firm, but also don't forget Trump fired Jones day after the Mueller report came out in retaliation for McGahn helping Mueller's obstruction case so much. And when Giuliani and Seculow got a hold of the Mueller report before Congress or the public, they were pissed about McGahn because Burke, McGahn's lawyer, told them all that McGahn was telling Mueller he didn't think Trump obstructed justice, but Burke probably just told him that to shut him up. In any case, Trump fired Jones Day as his firm for the 2020 election, re-election, and hired Nathan Groth, a former lawyer for the RNC,
Starting point is 00:31:21 instead. We learned Wednesday night in an interview between Jerry Nadler and Rachel Maddo that Mueller prefers to testify behind closed doors to avoid the political circus that would no doubt ensue in a public hearing. He says he wants to give a televised opening statement, televised to the public, and then testify in private and then release the transcripts to the public. Oh, all of it. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I like, yeah, because I don't think he's gonna, unless it's behind closed doors and he answers with any classified information or reveal sources or methods or something that could harm an ongoing matter, that'll probably be redacted. I think that's a very fair suggestion and hopefully would curtail some of the theatrics
Starting point is 00:31:58 that the GOP is gonna do in their questioning him. Yeah, I guess you'd imagine somebody like Jim Jordan or like, fuck Tim Meadow. That's why I really shine. Why is your face so wide here? they're questioning him. Yeah, I can just imagine somebody like Jim Jordan or like, fuck Tim Meadow. That's why I really shine. Why is your face so wide here? It's weird though, trader. You know, and I'm like, oh God, just sit down, fucking Jim boy.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah, exactly. It's just gonna be like, they're just gonna completely ask question after question over the legitimacy of the investigation. It's gonna go nowhere. It's just gonna be a waste of time. They'll probably still do the same thing and some of their form behind closed doors,
Starting point is 00:32:26 but at least hopefully they won't be emboldened by the fact that the whole fucking nation is watching life. Right, they don't want like a sound bite. Yeah, you know, that's all they're sometimes they're doing is just to get a viral sound bite or something like a gacha. And that's on both sides, you know, that happens on both sides. Yeah, and then they're not gonna, that's true.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And then they're hopefully not gonna be performing for people that don't read. Yeah, and then they're not going to, that's true. And then they're hopefully not going to be performing for people that don't read. Yeah, and it might actually be smart for the Democrats to have staff lawyers ask the questions instead of, you know, some of the folks that might be running for president, just to keep it a political, but, you know, I don't know, Kamala Harris is a really good question. I don't know what committee he's going to be testifying in front of. So I'm just throwing out senators and reps, you know? Yeah, I do think though that a lot of outrage is gonna come out of that. If that's what winds up happening,
Starting point is 00:33:10 because so many people want to see it, and want direct access, and like knowledge that what they're seeing is what he said. Yeah, distrust is high. And if it is an adler than that, that's a house judiciary committee. So the senators running for president wouldn't even be in the questioning. But just to keep it apolitical.
Starting point is 00:33:28 There's fucking 50 candidates. I wouldn't be surprised if the third ten more. Yeah, and we know Mueller hates testifying publicly because he wants to appear apolitical. So we kind of knew that. McCabe outlined that in his book, compared it to being around a nuclear bomb or something is like living your exposure and trying not to die. Yep. All right. Yeah. And, you know, guys, Trump has gone back and forth on Mueller testifying for saying he would
Starting point is 00:33:53 leave it up to Bill Barr, my amazing, beautiful, delicious attorney general, whether Mueller was should testify. Then he said he didn't want him to. Then he went back to saying it should be up to Barr. But now he's back to saying he shouldn't testify. So we'll see where it ends up. Yeah. So no do overs.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Right. And in a bombshell story this week, this is big. Washington Post got a hold of a draft memo from within the IRS that contradicts Steve's reason, Steve Mnuchin's reason for defying the House Ways and Means Committee subpoena for Trump's taxes. As we all know, the House Ways and Means Committee chair Richard Niel subpoenaed Trump's taxes under an we all know, the House Ways and Means Committee chair Richard Niel subpoena trumps taxes under an old law
Starting point is 00:34:27 that gives him the authority to do so without questions as to what his motivation is. According to the law, Niel could say he hates Trump and he's ugly and he's got a small weiner and I want to take him down, so I need his taxes. And he'd have the authority to do that if that were his reason. It's not hilarious.
Starting point is 00:34:41 But he could, you can't take it into account what the motivation is. Nice. According to the law and according to decisions that have been made on that law. We talked about that old case during Vietnam about Congress subpoenaing the IRS tax records for war protesters by an angry white supremacist racist asshole congressman for really untoward reasons. And the courts were like, even this guy gets his taxes, the taxes under the law, and they handed them all over. That would be his way to take them down.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Look at their taxes. Yeah, that's such a stupid thing. Like, fucking look at hippies taxes, like the least fruitful $8. Yeah, exactly. All my people, they're trying to write off all their weed or something, and they were like, look, they broke the law.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah. So, like, no money to launder them, not the hippies. Yes. Well, Steve, along with Trump's handpicked IRS commissioner, who happens to profit off Trump-owned properties, along with the IRS General Counsel, who used to work as Trump's personal fucking tax advisor and whose confirmation hearing was pushed through
Starting point is 00:35:41 by Trump ahead of William Barr's, as, you know, having priority, they have all refused to comply with the House Ways and Means Committee's subpoena for Trump's taxes, saying that Richard Neal has no legislative purpose to do this. Well, I have a few thoughts. First, Trump thought the appointment of his personal IRS lawyer was more important than that of Bill Barr's confirmation, and that says to me that Trump is more worried about what's in his taxes than what's in the Mueller report.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Next for Steve to say there's no legislative purpose is not only an invalid argument under the law, it's just simply untrue. And if this were political and not legislative in nature, the House Ways and Means Committee could have requested Trump's taxes back in January instead of after Cohen testified that Trump probably committed bank and insurance fraud or violated the emoluments clause. But the reason the House Ways and Means Committee wants its taxes is specifically for a legislative purpose. It's to evaluate the effectiveness of the current policy outlining how the IRS audits
Starting point is 00:36:34 presidential and vice presidential tax returns. Neil is saying that if it's true what Cohen says, then perhaps we need to question the effectiveness of the current audit policy and consider legislation to address it. Finally, the excuse Steve is using that it must serve a legislative purpose was just destroyed this week in two other cases in which Trump tried to block subpoenas of his financial records and I'll go over that in the hot notes. That's the Mizzars Deutsche Bank capital one case, two cases, three banks, two cases, one criminal. But this draft memo from someone within the IRS was written last fall around the time
Starting point is 00:37:07 the Dems started talking about obtaining Trump's tax returns. But before Trump could install his personal tax attorney, Michael Desmond and real estate partner, IRS commission Steve Redig. Someone at the IRS said, quote, somebody might come looking for Trump's taxes. And when they do, I'm paraphrasing, I shouldn't say quote, but somebody might come looking for Trump's taxes. And when they do, remember, you haveasing, I shouldn't say quote, but somebody might come looking for Trump's taxes. And when they do, remember, you have to hand them over unless the president invokes executive privilege and probably not even then, meaning the law could be read
Starting point is 00:37:32 to say that even an invocation of executive privilege probably wouldn't preclude the IRS and the Treasury from denying the subpoena. So it goes on to say that the Treasury Secretary cannot use discretion when replying to these requests. As if the person who wrote the memo knew exactly what bullshit excuse Steve was gonna use. to say that the Treasury Secretary cannot use discretion when replying to these requests. As if the person who wrote the memo knew exactly what bullshit excuse Steve was going to use. And when asked about it this week, Steve said some bullshit like, oh, this memo is talking about something totally different. No, it's not. It's talking about this law, it's talking about Trump's taxes, it's talking about you using
Starting point is 00:38:00 your discretion to refuse handing them over. So that's exactly what this is. That's like eating a popsicle and then having someone ask you how your popsicle is and saying, I'm not eating a popsicle, I'm eating ham. And I don't have to tell you about what I think about the popsicle because it's ham. Talking dumbass.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Ham popsicles coming soon to a store near me. Meat popsicles. It's a hot dog on a stick. Yeah, it makes me think of a- That is meat stick. Yeah, I remember the fifth element, the movie with Bruce Willis. Yeah, yeah, the meat pops like a little lion. Yeah, yeah, or something about Mary.
Starting point is 00:38:30 We need more meats on sticks. Oh, that's right. Yeah, oh, all classics. Yeah, and I missed the 90s. Let's see, and then let's see. Flynn is opposing Washington Post FOIA request about basically Washington Post said they want the full unredacted sentencing memos. Post said they want the full unredacted
Starting point is 00:38:45 sentencing memos and we got most of the unredacted sentencing memos released by the prosecutor's Mueller's team last week, right? And those were juicy as fuck. But now they're saying, because they had stuff in them like, you know, Dowd called Flynn and left a voicemail and they have the voicemail. And we also learned that Flynn, they were, you know, basically dangling pardons to Flynn and a couple other things about Flynn being, you know, talk to by Trump about getting emails from WikiLeaks
Starting point is 00:39:13 like all this stuff. And then WAPO was like, we want the full unredacted ones. And Flynn's lawyers are opposing that, saying, you know, they don't want to declassify some of that material. And so basically, but they don't want to declassify some of that material. And so basically, but they didn't say anything, it's funny, they didn't say anything about Judge Sullivan ordering the Mueller report, the Flynn parts of the Mueller report to be released to the public unredacted. He also asked for that voicemail to be released and the transcripts
Starting point is 00:39:40 of Flynn's discussions with Kislyak. Flynn's lawyers aren't opposing that, and those are due May 31st. Interesting. But they are opposing this Wapu, they don't want whatever's in those remaining redacted parts of the sentencing memo to come out. So I thought that was interesting. Oh yeah. Maybe this week we'll see an injunction
Starting point is 00:40:00 or some sort of motion by Flynn's team to stop the May 31st judge Sullivan public Mueller report, you know, release of information, but... Maybe he's expecting a pardon still in that info would change Trump's mind. Yeah, because we were wondering about that because there were uncovered text messages or Twitter DMs from Flynn to Matt Gates. Right, on the day Matt Gates went on to Fox News and started bitching about the Mueller investigation. Flynn said, keep up the good work,
Starting point is 00:40:30 you're a true patriot or some shit. Slidden his DMs. And then on the day, Bar was confirmed. Flynn sent an eagle gif and a flag gif to Matt Gates after Bar was confirmed. I knew so funny they speak in gifts. And finally Trump has given bar and all
Starting point is 00:40:50 access VIP pass to declassify material in the new Department of Justice effort to investigate itself in a terrifying new consolidation of power move. And Julie so you're going to go over that for us later in the show. Oh yeah. But guys first quick word from our sponsor. We'll be right back. Hey friends, this is A.G. Did you know that millennials have three times as much
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Starting point is 00:43:15 authentic together. All right, welcome back. Hot notes. All right guys, welcome back. Hot notes. All right guys, welcome back. Today Jordan has an incredible story about a Deutsche Bank whistleblower, but first Jalisa has a pretty terrifying move. Trump made this week to consolidate his power even further. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:35 So this week we learned from the New York Times that after Trump claimed the Mueller investigation and his team committed treason, he then gave bar full authority to investigate the more investigation. And that's why I'm calling this scandal investigate gate. So basically the article says that, quote, Trump ordered the CIA and 15 other intelligence agencies to cooperate with Barr or else. And Trump also gave bar, quote, authority to unilaterally declassify their documents. And apparently this is a top priority of Bar.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So he says he wants to know what foreign assets the CIA gave to Russian 2016 and what those informants were telling the agency about how Putin interfered in the US elections. And Jeremy Bash, who was Obama's CIA chief of staff, said that Trump's decision was quote, a very significant delegation of power to an attorney general who has shown he's willing to do Trump's political bidding. And I totally agree. Bars kind of like Trump's quicker picker cover-up, right? Like Bounty. Which would explain why Trump's obsessed with throwing paper towels at Hurricane Vixen.
Starting point is 00:44:35 So it all makes sense now. The quicker cover up. Yes. Trumpi. We got to make an ad for that. But in all seriousness. I know, that's pretty stupid. Yeah, I dig it.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I'm all for stupid ads. Thanks. This decision is, it's really a slippery slope. So Bash added that quote, it's dangerous because the power to declassify is also the power to selectively classify, and selective declassification is one of the ways the Trump White House can spin a narrative about the origins or oranges of the Russian investigation to their point of view. It also sends a message to global sources
Starting point is 00:45:07 that their identities might be at risk of exposure. So yeah, very scary stuff. Yeah, that's what Malcolm Nance is most concerned about is that once if these things become declassified, handed over to Jim Jordan and Devon Nunes and their publicly released, that no other intelligence agency of our foreign allies are gonna wanna work with us anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And that's terrifying because we rely on them. Oh yeah, because of the CIA. Everything that we know about the investigation a lot of it came from these sources. So, especially like, am I five, am I six? The Dutch, they gave us a lot of information. Australia. Yeah, don't leave Australia out of it, but there's a lot that we work with in the eyes. And so it's interesting that you said that the CIA and 16 other agencies,
Starting point is 00:45:46 that means that's only 16 intelligence agencies and they're 17. So I wonder which one. He didn't get access to. Yeah. It's probably like one of the lesser ones, like bobs and intelligence agencies. Yeah, somebody went rogue. He probably just forgot to add. That's true. We just left it off the list. That's funny. Some of the other ones are misspelled. Yeah, yeah. That'd be great if the FBI was like, um, you called us the FCI, and so we don't have to hand over anything. W is free.
Starting point is 00:46:12 W is free. Yeah, but uh, scary, scary stuff. I know we're laughing about deterrifying apocalyptic shit right now. I mean, we have to, right? I don't want to cry for 60 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing, right? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, this weekend, he went cherry picking with his family. Yes, he went cherry picking today. And he showed the baskets of cherries, and I'm like, and every day.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I know. He could have easily defended himself with some hashtag, like, burns on Democrats or something or whatever, but just no self-awareness whatsoever. And I've got screenshots. So whatever he puts out in tweets that come from this unclassified shit from bar,
Starting point is 00:47:03 I'm just going to be able to put that cherry picking picture beautiful. right underneath it. It's going to be responded to so many of his future tweets. It's going to be that tweet. Oh yeah. Yeah. I can see it now. Lovely. All right. Thank you for that. And we're going to keep keep our eyes on that pretty closely because that is that is a big deal. Definitely. And it does kind of fly in the face of the independence of the intelligence community. And also it's going to be used to discredit the intelligence community even further. Of course. And now that all of the, you know, kind of people that were in at least the FBI, like the
Starting point is 00:47:33 Comi-5, they've all been ousted and the old CIA direct everybody. They went solo, just like Michael. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a good choice though. Definitely. All right, Jordan. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. I didn't. Michael Jackson of that. a good choice though. Definitely. All right, Jordan. Yeah. Yes, yes, sorry. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Michael Jackson had that pretty cool solo career. Oh, definitely. Yeah, private life questionable. Yeah. It was either Jackson or Jordan. And I didn't know if that was like a golf reference. Oh, fine. Michael Jackson with solo.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Michael Jackson with solo. It started golfing. Okay, Jordan, what's the news with Deutsche Bank? This is interesting. Yeah, so like you said, a whistleblower was fired, but there's a bigger story that that falls in the middle of. So back in 2016 and 2017, Semantai Money Laundering Specialist at Deutsche Bank suggested that multiple transactions tied to companies that were overseen by Kushner and Trub oughted
Starting point is 00:48:24 be forwarded along to a federal financial crimes watchdog. So apparently these transactions set off a computer system that's meant to detect fragile activity, and my god that poor system must have been exhausted. I felt, I think never felt more sorry for a robot, but once the transactions were flagged. Too much data. Too much data, Norman coordinates. Oh, smoke. Death. But once the transactions were flagged, employees prepared suspicious activity reports that they believed should have been sent to the unit of the Treasury Department meant
Starting point is 00:48:56 to investigate financial crimes, which is another unit I'd have sympathy for for being so busy, but I did not feel bad for a unit that has tied to Steve. Yeah, that's Fin Sen. Right, and I think that Barr's daughter just got a cushy job there. Yeah, yep. In the recommendations, never made it to the Treasury Department because executives at Deutsche Bank blocked them from being sent. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And although it's not necessarily the case that the decision to not send the reports was nefarious in nature. Employees of Deutsche Bank, current and former, who spoke anonymously said that it was quote, part of a pattern of the bank executives rejecting valid reports to protect relationships with lucrative clients. One of one of those former employees is Justice Kennedy's kid, Justin Kennedy, whose job it was. He was in charge of the super wealth, you know, real estate, Deutsche Bank funding thing. And he was the one who, up until 2006, when he left, or 2007, he would have been the one
Starting point is 00:49:52 that would have decided to reject sending those SARS to Finnsa. He's a privileged guy. Yeah, yeah, interesting. It's a profit deal. Yeah, and so Tammy McFadden, she was a former Deutsche Bank anti-money laundering specialist said of their inclination to not forward along those recommendations. She said,
Starting point is 00:50:12 quote, you present them with everything and you give them a recommendation and nothing happens. It's kind of like the security clearance people. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. She said, it's the DB way. That's Deutsche Bank. They are prone not David Buster. They are prone to discounting everything. Definitely not David Buster. She's expensive. Like Casino in there. I'm surprised. Oh yeah. The David Buster's far more expensive than anything that comes through Deutsche Bank. Good point. Totally. End quote. So was, she was terminated last year after she raised concerns about the banks, practices and New York Times reports, and she's filed a complaint with the SEC and a bunch of other regulators about the banks and time money laundering enforcement. So there
Starting point is 00:50:56 seems to be a pattern of retaliation against whistleblowers in Deutsche Bank and not to mention the fact that their story of, well, we don't know how he kept getting lent to, becomes like way less believable the more information we hear like that. That's a process that they clearly were doing like with the intention of protecting him. Yeah. And these are beans come true because we reported on a story probably about a month ago that said that Deutsche Bank knew that Trump, they shouldn't lend a Trump, but they did anyway, because they didn't want to lose his business. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Same with the old Kushner. Yeah, exactly. Man, it's like the rich get rich even when they're dumb and unreliable. It's just powerful stuff. Yeah, it's pretty scary. Muller made more money investigating Trump. Trump made it from 1984. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:51:44 But Trump probably gets so much free shit in favors that like even when he's bankrupt, he's still living. There were sure you get the more free shit you get. That's where it's weird. It's very weird. Or the more debt you go into, I don't know. Right, right. Or just people that are willing to help you, probably.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah, and to be fair, real estate developers do carry a lot of heavy debt because they have a lot of loans. Sure. But not to this degree, like he's pushing the limit. Not the most ever. Exactly. How is it that our president is that guy? He's the poor student, the country.
Starting point is 00:52:11 The poor is dude. I would love to like meet someone that's really wealthy and just actually plays by the rules. I mean, what's different about their brain than all these other, complete sociopaths? We have some patrons like that, you know? Not to put them on blast. I don't know how they feel
Starting point is 00:52:25 about, you know, saying much more. Don't say their names. Exactly, but just the idea of patrons. Absolutely, yeah, that are like, based on people from what I can tell. That's very true. I'm thinking like, hello, Rich, like, you're right though, I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:52:35 We also might have. It's like Warren Buffett or Fanzel. They probably wouldn't brag about it, you know, because they're so humble in that sense, like this perfect person. Yeah, like Warren Buffet doesn't walk around talking about how rich he is all the time. You know, that's, but Trump does.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm rich, I'm smart. I'm smart, I'm stable. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, smart people don't need to tell you how smart they are. Not at all. It's just a thing. Yeah. When you're, it's a small dick energy.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yes, for the end of your year. I just wanna say, no offense people have small dicks again. It's just about Trump and his features in particular. We hate him. Yeah. There you go. Uh, it's, it's less about the small dick. It's more about the small dick energy.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Totally. You can have a giant dick and have small dick energy. That's absolutely right. It's more of a metaphor. Yeah. Yeah. It's a way of life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah. Language is just tricky. That's, uh, all right. Speaking of Deutsche Bank and Deutsche Wannalone, two big cases were heard this week. One in the DC court, one in the Southern District of New York, both Trump lawsuits trying All right, speaking of Deutsche Bank and Deutsche Wannalone, two big cases were heard this week. One in the DC court, one in the Southern District of New York, both Trump lawsuits trying to block Congress from getting his financial documents from Mazar's, which is his tax firm, Deutsche Bank in Capital One.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Well the Democrats in the House Oversight and Finance committees won their court cases against Donald Trump's legal team. The first ruling came Monday in the DC Circuit Court with Judge Metta in the case where Donald Trump's pseudoligia Cummings and the House Oversight Committee to stop Trump tax firm Mazaars from complying with a congressional subpoena to hand over Trump's finances, which likely include his tax returns. In a beautiful ruling by Judge Metta, Trump learned that his legal argument about Congress having no legislative purpose is bullshit. I love this ruling, and if you get a chance to read it, I highly recommend it. He opened with a quote from James Buchanan who was complaining about a congressional inquiry into him saying how it would
Starting point is 00:54:12 foster a band of parasites and informers that would lie about conversations they had with the president that couldn't be disproven thereby harassing him and degrading him. He then said the house only had the authority to make inquiries that have to do with legislative purposes. Sound familiar? Makes you wonder where they got this whole idea. Other, but you can't it lost. So I'm not sure why. Why they went with this. Let's go with the losing strategies. Right. Well, it's the only strategy we can find. Even though it's a loser, it was the only one we could find in history. So other than Buchanan, other than that, Buchanan said the house has no means
Starting point is 00:54:44 to investigate him or no means to investigate him or no reason to investigate him and doing so would establish a precedent dangerous and embarrassing to all his predecessors. The judge then went on to say, quote, to be sure there are limits on Congress's investigative authority, but those limits do not substantially constrain Congress so long as Congress investigates on a subject matter on which legislation could be had, then Congress acts as contemplated with an article one of the Constitution. And applying those principles here compels the conclusion
Starting point is 00:55:11 that the president cannot block the subpoenas to Mazar. Another great insight, he says, the oversight committee's broad investigative power is not new in each of the four proceeding congresses, all controlled by the Republican Party, including during the final six years of the Obama administration, the House Oversight Committee enjoyed the same power at any time to conduct investigations of any matter. So that's like, you know, what's good for the goose is what's good
Starting point is 00:55:37 for the gander. And my favorite, it is simply not fathomable that a constitution that grants Congress the power to remove a president for reasons, including criminal behavior, would deny Congress the power to remove a president for reasons, including criminal behavior, would deny Congress the power to investigate a president for unlawful conduct, past or present, even without formally opening an impeachment inquiry. And that might have given Nancy a little, oh, I don't have to open an impeachment inquiry. Okay. It makes sense. Because this ruling right here is telling Nancy Pelosi, impeachment inquiry or not, I'm
Starting point is 00:56:04 going to rule this way and I would have ruled just as fast. So she's like, aha, see, I don't have to open an impeachment inquiry to get what I need. Avoid the bad optics from I am. At least that's her. That's not mine. We don't share, but that's her, you know, justification. The judge laid out an eloquent case for denying the stay that Trump requested. A stay basically means that Mazar's would have to wait to hand over the documents while Trump appealed his case.
Starting point is 00:56:27 In order to get a stay pending appeal, Trump would have to establish four things, that he's likely to succeed on the merits. Number two, he's likely to suffer a reputable harm without a stay. Number three, that the balance of equities tips in his favor and finally that an injunction is in the public interest.
Starting point is 00:56:43 As for the first factor, the court says he's not going to succeed on the merits. They have no cited case law since killborn from 1880 and that case does not merit becoming, or this case does not merit the first case in 140 years to do so because it does not present serious legal questions that would merit any more deliberative investigation. Basically, this is open and closed. It says you can't do it. It says you have to and you have to buy. So he's not going to win this case, basically,
Starting point is 00:57:08 as what Meta is saying. The court did decide that since Congress said they may make some of these documents public, they could cause a reputable harm. But not much since we must presume by precedent that Congress will exercise their powers responsibly. With regards to the balance of equities and public interest, the court merges those and cites case law on how they can merge them because the government is the opposing party and there's a clear public
Starting point is 00:57:31 interest in having Congress get access to these records, namely legislation or investigative authority. Therefore, the balance of equities and the public interest weigh heavily in favor of denying a stay and the risk of a reputable harm doesn't outweigh those factors. Trump, of course, disagrees with this decision. Said it was wrong and complained about the judge being appointed by Obama. He's done this before when he loses. He blames Obama. And a while back, we heard from Chief Justice John Roberts about this shit, an rare public rebuke when he said, quote, we do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, or Bush judges or Clinton judges. What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. I remember that that was nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah. And everyone was like, whoa, Chief Justice never rebukes a sitting president. Like that's crazy that you did that. So he was to felt pretty strongly about it. Immediately after the ruling, the House lawyers for a similar case sent their judge a copy of that ruling. They said, look, see, this is proof. Here's check out, check out this ruling. Because it's good. They're like, we don't need to write up our whole thing because he just did this perfectly. Exactly. They will have to, they did have to write a dissive course. They have to write a decision, that's their job. But, you know, they could use that as justification or evidence or, you know, sort of bolstering their argument that they can get the Deutsche Bank in capital one records.
Starting point is 00:58:50 This case was Trump suing to stop Deutsche Bank in capital one from complying with a subpoena from anti-maxine and the House Financial Services Committee. We had said Judge Metta's decision would snowball into all these cases where Trump is claiming Congress has no legislative purpose and sure enough, later that same day, the judge ruled against Trump in the Deutsche Bank case as well by, and he's an Obama appointee too at Gardo Ramos. Personally, I hope it's like an extra stiletto into Trump's balls that these are Obama appointees. Right, not in the fun way. I can't shake it.
Starting point is 00:59:22 This could be like the impetus that makes him just want to overturn everything Obama did. Yeah, whether it's good or not. Trump immediately appealed the Mazar's case and will appeal the Deutsche Bank case as the judge. They are also denied Trump's request for a stay based on the fantastic argument that Meta made, but you know, reiterating it in his decision. And at one point in the proceedings, Trump lawyers said they were going to negotiate
Starting point is 00:59:46 The scope of the subpoenas and Douglas letter the House Dams council scoffed at him They were like we're not negotiating shit with you. Wow your merits are ass That's probably I don't even know what I'm talking about And then something interesting happened Elijah Cummings said he had struck a deal with Trump's legal team that the committee would hold off on executing the subpoena with Mazar's in exchange for an expedited timeline for the appeal. Maxine Waters in the House Financial Services committee followed suit in the Deutsche Bank case. And I have beans on Congress consolidating these cases and fast tracking them. I think they'll be heard by August. The reason they did this is because Congress is so sure Trump will lose on the merits that
Starting point is 01:00:27 if they can get an expedited timeline, they would eliminate the risk of a higher court issuing an emergency stay that would block compliance with the subpoenas. And on a normal timeline, those cases could drag out past the election. We wouldn't see anything on this time line though. The cases would be decided as early as August, perhaps October, the appellate court will deny the appeal based on the merits, probably. Then it will likely be appealed to SCOTUS by Trump.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And if it's fast-tracked, SCOTUS could hear it by August or just, you know, in the fall, then the decision would come out in early 2020. But I don't even think SCOTUS is gonna hear this case. They could issue a percurium opinion without briefs. It could be over sooner than we think. Yeah, because the reason that they're giving for not wanting to complies and at the same one that everyone else is giving right now, there's no legislative purpose.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah, well, Trump's lawsuit to block handing over is to say there's no legislative purpose. Yes. Yes, thank you. So then if that's already been set in another precedent, then couldn't they just can they reference one That's like sort of concurrently going on in another court probably yeah like like they did with this decision But basically and a lot of people are upset with us because if they weren't If if Cummings didn't strike the steel and anti-vaccine didn't strike the steel
Starting point is 01:01:43 We would have gotten, they had seven days, Mizar's had seven days, and I think Deutsche Bank and Capital One had a short timeline also to comply with the subpoena if it wasn't even just immediately. But you run the risk of a higher court issuing an emergency stay and Then dragging it out for years. Yeah, but this was like tell you what if you can get this heard and decided Right around, you know, before the end of this year or right around the beginning and next year, we'll go ahead and hold off on getting those documents to guarantee that we get them before the election. So that's the
Starting point is 01:02:14 thought behind it. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah, I would also like to put some beans on the House ways and means committee getting a hold of Trump's state taxes before these other cases are even resolved because this week the full state legislature in New York passed the state tax return bill which allows the Houseways and Means Committee, the joint committee on taxation and the Senate Finance Committee, to request anyone's tax returns from the state of New York. And I'm sure Trump will try to sue someone to block it. But my beans are on us getting his state returns before we get his financials from Mazar's Deutsche Bank or Capital One.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Tudally high-grie. Although I found a new story buried that didn't get much coverage, and this is according to NBC News, apparently Maxine Waters issued more than just subpoenas for Deutsche Bank in Capital One. She also issued subpoenas to City Group, Morgan Stanley, Royal Bank of Canada, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Wells Fargo, and TD Ameritrade. What I didn't know until this week was that Wells Fargo and TD have actually already complied with the subpoenas. She has thousands of Trump financial documents from them. Though she has said, quote, we don't have any information we can share with you
Starting point is 01:03:16 at this time about what we've learned from these documents. We also know the Royal Bank of Canada is complying with the subpoena and the other banks may have missed the Mastics deadline set in the subpoena. The subpoenas are predicated on the notion that Congress is allowed to access the documents under the Bank secrecy act, which allows them to search for money laundering according to a source. So I thought that was interesting. She's already got a bunch of shit that I didn't even know she had subpoenaed. Interesting. And I don't know why Trump didn't sue to block these other banks.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I mean, I guess because he, you know why Trump didn't sue to block these other banks. I mean, I guess because he, you know, Deutsche Banks gave him a billion dollars. Yeah. And I don't know, Capital One, I think, is where he tried to get the loan to buy the Buffalo Bills or something. Yeah, what's in your wallet?
Starting point is 01:03:56 We had a little mini-sort of that. Yeah. So those might be more important to him that those things don't get out. Because that's where he'd probably lied to them about his assets. He's got too much shit. No one can keep up with all that shit. No fixer cover-up or in the world. You can keep track of all of it. Yeah, you imagine having to trust Michael Cohen to keep track of that shit. Goodness. I think he was just the only one willing. He was not the most qualified.
Starting point is 01:04:21 He was just filing a cab. He's like, all right, these are all of our money laundering files. He's owned our tax evasion files. There's my box of phones. Right. Things get messy. Here's some paper towels. There's my cigar box of passports. Oh gosh, guys. That's interesting and funny and also terrifying. We'll be right back with Sabotage. Hey, Mueller junkies.
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Starting point is 01:07:24 Yes. Yes. All right, and beans come true this week in sabotage when, despite our long list of corrections, we were right about something. We had beans on Trump getting rid of all his immigration directors, and just let Sysna go, the director of US citizenship and immigration. Trump is expected to tap former Virginia attorney Ken Kuchennelli to replace him, but that announcement hasn't been officially made yet, at least as of the time we're recording this. There's vacancy now leaves all three major federal immigration agencies without leadership, including the
Starting point is 01:08:02 director of Department of Homeland Security and ICE. Just the way he likes it. DHS would be partly responsible for election security. So, you know, we lost the head of the Secret Service, too. This week, and I think the next person to go will be the DHS General Counsel, Department of Homeland Security General Counsel, John Mittnik. So beans on that guy, I leave him soon. This is all no doubt the work of Stephen Harlein Miller, the sixth migrant child in U.S. custody has died this week since
Starting point is 01:08:29 the December. In a related story, Trump has nominated Mark Morgan to head the immigration and customs enforcement ICE, former head of the Board of Patrol, a position he resigned from because they hated him. Trump had nominated a guy named Vita Tello, but he withdrew that nomination, though he did give Vita Tello's wife a spot as aotello, but he withdrew that nomination, though he did give Vidotello's wife a spot as a federal judge, even though she sucks at talking and being a human, because she appears to disagree with the Brown V-Bord of Education ruling.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Oh my God. Fantastic. I'm assuming that anyone Trump picks. On what grounds, right? Rays is that. Yeah. Rays is an honor. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:09:02 What's her, what's her cloak reason? I think it was a Blooming Thaw asked. And Blooming Thaw asked this of all, Trump appointees, do you feel the Brown versus Board of Education was correctly decided? She was like, I can't tell you, I'm not, but I shouldn't say whether I think something was decided properly or not.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Whoa. Like, the answer is yes. Yeah, ask her what she thinks about the Constitution. She's like, I don't know, I guess. I don't know, I guess. I'm really on the fence. Yeah, I guess libertarians are on the line? I don't know, I guess. I'm really on the fence. Yeah, I guess libertarians are on the fence sometimes. Yeah, I've been seeing more and more headlines people
Starting point is 01:09:28 that are saying that. That's actually, I just fucking, they did a montage of Blumenthal asking that question to Trump appointees and most of them not answering, refusing to answer the question. They might be trained for that. I was gonna also say, on the topic, we're gonna go over to, sorry, no, please go ahead.
Starting point is 01:09:43 That was it, just rovy-weighting than that. Yeah, they're going for the classics. There're gonna over turn started. No, please go ahead. That's it. Just Roe v. Wade and then that is yeah They're going for the classics Yeah, I'm also gonna I don't believe that they're actually gonna try to overturn it really I don't be weighed no Brown v board No, this is just a this is a litmus test question exactly the last Are you ready? Are you gonna come out and say that are you a Trump federal judge? Are you gonna come out and say that you think brown v. Board of Education was decided properly or are you going to dog whistle all the white supremacists that are in your base and not say anything?
Starting point is 01:10:10 Right. I'll just say at this pace with technology and having these issues in this day and age versus where they used to be, 20, 30 years from now I wouldn't be surprised if we're having a talk about like Roe vs. Wade, like with Brown vs. Bore. Like the way that we're discussing abortion now, like it's actually being banned. I know it sounds crazy to think that these laws would be overturned, but I just feel like we're going a really weird path.
Starting point is 01:10:30 And I know you guys are being realistic. I just also kind of feel like with Trump, there were so many things that I was like, this is never gonna happen. It seems like nothing's off limits. Exactly, yes, for sure. But I don't think they're asking that because they're planning on turning it over.
Starting point is 01:10:42 They're turning it at least not now. Not now, it's just a litmus test. Yeah, I plan that seed. And then I also want to say on the topic of the sixth migrant child dying, I was looking into that too. So apparently there have been children who've died in the past, but through shootings, and this is like the first cases of it happening through like, malnutrition or care problem.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Health care, yes. So that's what they're saying is like their're, you know, extra layer of racism. Yeah, two of pneumonia, one of the flu, a 16 year old Guatemalan boy, a two and a half year old Guatemalan boy, and then a little girl. I remember her name or her origin, or her oranges. I thought you were going to say that there are kids that have died way before, and we're like just now hearing about it, because that's also something that's happening. Yeah, but they actually withheld this the sixth death for a year, right? Like, I think, yeah, I think I heard like,
Starting point is 01:11:27 I don't wanna misquote this, but sometime last year. Yeah, yeah. Like, if not a year, just several months, they just sat on this information for some reason. And again, that's too wide. Two that have passed away in the last week and a half one that we just found out about
Starting point is 01:11:41 that died earlier. Yeah, and six deaths in 2019 alone, I believe. That's right, since December. Yeah, that's in sanity. So not even including the person that died last year, right? Yeah. Well, oh, right. That would have been a different one.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Yeah, but that's the idea, I think, is that it's happening very increasingly exponentially. Yeah, and going back to the Roe v. Wade brand v. Ward thing, I think the biggest difference and why I don't think it's where it's heading right now is that there was already a gray area with Roe v. Wade brand v. Ward thing. I think the biggest difference and why I don't think it's where it's heading right now is that there was already a gray area with Roe v. Wade in terms of states rights versus federal rights. And so, where I should say decisions.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Oh, window for them, right? Yeah, and it's not like right now the states get to decide if they're gonna integrate white people and black people in school. Sure, sure. Whereas other states. But there are states who haven't done it in some schools. And yeah, I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:12:28 What? Yeah, there's a lot of laws that have it. Like, that's the rule of the school? No, they just haven't. Haven't integrated. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say one to say, so they're gonna be still out now. Conor, if you guys seen it,
Starting point is 01:12:39 the one to say it's not special and not normal, she just talks about how race is America, the Keeley's heel. So, you know, like the Russians taking advantage of that. It's like, maybe now it seems like, you know, oh, we'll be fine. But like, we might be set way back before this all settles because we're just such a, you know. No, I'm just gonna vote them out
Starting point is 01:12:54 before it even becomes a question. I hope so. That's my plan. But it's gonna take longer, uh, with that was for that to ever happen because. That particular thing for sure. Like I said, it's all, yeah, it's already just a wishy washi thing
Starting point is 01:13:06 for each state basically. It's still, even though Roe v Wade was a huge landmark decision. Sure, yeah, I just think that there's still states that get to decide like how restrictive they want to be with it to some degree. Right, right. I give fearful because I think if you start taking away
Starting point is 01:13:19 the rights of women, especially like white women, it's like, oh, I thought you guys were protected too to some degree. It seems like once you, it's like, oh, I thought you guys were protected too, to some degree. It seems like once you start stripping away of those rights, it's like then people that are under the totem pole in America's view. It's like, I can just see it. You know, we have to see it privilege,
Starting point is 01:13:35 but we're still women. Absolutely. And definitely never want to forget that. I just also, when I see why people being affected anyway, I'm like, oh, who's next? You know, like it's just as a black person. It's kind of how I look at it. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:13:47 I honestly, I think that right now it's a litmus test, the brown v board thing, but I mean, I could see how it would be a fearful because while you're talking about individual states rights for Roe v Wade, it could be presented that way for brown v board too, that the state has the right to decide whether or not it's going to keep schools segregated. Yeah, and it's not how it is true, but if hay crimes keep increasing, it wouldn't be unusual to bring up that discussion of like, I don't think about that.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Yeah, like they tried to put you know, like a security. Yeah, we need to keep people of color safe. Oh, they all have to go to those once. Yeah, it's not going to be the way it used to be. They're gonna find a way to slip this in. They're thinking proactively like that. I bet the way that they do it is with migrants, with immigrants. That would be a segregation.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Instead of black people, they're gonna focus on the Mexicans, but still apply the same racist tactics. Or anyone, any migrant. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, African-Americans. From any of the three Mexicans. Right, right, unless they're from like the Red Lens or something, or you know, like the good, good white migrants like, right, but then
Starting point is 01:14:46 you know, they might say, you know, brown people from the southern across the southern border are an especially, especially the elevated levels of danger and they need to have their own schools. I mean, we are a segregation. We're already putting them in camps. I mean, like literally, it's like, it's happening. That's why I'm thinking maybe that could be stepping on. Very, very good point. Let's see, also this just in. Oh, hope Hicks says she's going to cooperate and provide documents to the House Judiciary Committee, Jalice. We were pointing this out.
Starting point is 01:15:12 This just came out today while we were recording. And those documents include any personal or work diaries, journals or other books containing any notes about daily events for the Trump campaign, the Trump organization, and the executive office of the president. Though it does not mention her testimony, but I don't think she's even been subpoenaed to testimony yet. I think that the story was they're going to subpoena, hope, and for the documents. Yes, but no, no, no, for testimony.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Oh, I see. This is the document. Right. And they got it. She's going to cooperate with that. But I think there was news this week that said that they were talking about subpoenaing testimony from hope picks and Andy Donaldson. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:15:48 So I don't think those subpoenas have been issued yet, so they can't have been defied, since they haven't been issued yet. Yeah, but that seems like something that Trump might come out and say, use the same excuse he's been using for McGann and Muller and everybody else to say these folks aren't going to testify. I'm invoking executive privilege because we've put that over the Muller report. These documents belong to the White House. I'm interested also to see if Trump stops, tries to stop her, files a motion or some sort
Starting point is 01:16:10 of injunction or a lawsuit to stop her from handing over these documents because if they are or do pertain to the Mueller report, he could claim executive privilege over these documents. So we'll see how he reacts because this is a brand new story. You might sue to stop it. Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't put it past them. A lot of people too are upset about the way the New York Times handled this piece on Hope Hicks.
Starting point is 01:16:28 They use like apparently a glamour shot, I guess, but she's really attractive. So it's hard to not get a glamour shot of her. But I will say that. Yeah, every shot of Hope Hicks is a glamour shot. But they did say that she was facing an existential crisis with the subpoena. And people were like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:16:41 Like, no, you're either subpoenaed and you comply. Or you go to jail. Like, there's no existential crisis. Maybe what they were trying to say is that she's so dedicated to Trump, but she's also, you know, does it want to break the law and that's her crisis. That consciousness is like a problem.
Starting point is 01:16:53 I just wonder if they would use that for like a brown person or like just any other person. Yeah, exactly. Anyone would be going through an existential crisis. Yeah, yeah. Words are powerful when you're the New York fucking times. So, yeah. And I'm sure if they subpoenaed Amarosa that,
Starting point is 01:17:06 they probably try to block that too. So, yeah, yeah. Very good point. They're, the frustration I guess is that because she's like a rich, well-to-do white woman basically that there's a philosophical concept that's tied to it. Totally.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And maybe the writer didn't intend for that, but that's how people will receive it. Yeah, I was thinking maybe they were doing that on purpose to try to capture that about her Okay, and maybe it wasn't them buying into that sort of like an observation He has like that's probably how she sees it instead of something like that Yeah, it's just but I don't know. We're definitely clickbait is what it is. Yeah, they rub people the wrong way for sure So totally and they have to click and see why they are mad Yeah, how it happens? That's right. I do it all the time myself. So
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Starting point is 01:18:32 So he went to the book deal guy. He starts up in drag like, hey, no, it's me big fake. You know, yes, I can just see it now. Hashtag Buster, can I have my book deal please? Money? Money is kind of like money. It was so crazy how this went down to you. So he basically went to the book deal guy and was like, Hey, can I get some of this money in advance? And they're like, no, you have to be stormy to sign off. And so then he went back and gave them a letter claiming he was stormy. And then they gave him the money and he did that twice. And so the whole time stormy is asking him about the deal, like, hey, when is this money coming?
Starting point is 01:19:05 And he's like, oh, it's coming. I'm working on it. The whole time he's already got the funds. So he underestimated her intelligence. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, she followed up. It took a little while, but she did follow up. We're assuming she followed up with the book.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I'm assuming she followed up. She did. She specifically called the book guy. She did after that is reported. After asking Abanadi like, I was just guessing. No, she did the damn thing. Yeah, that's what I figured. And yeah, when she found out, she fired him in January., it was right. She did the damn thing, yeah. That's what I figured. Yeah, when she found out, she fired him in January.
Starting point is 01:19:27 And so yeah. So that's what the fuck I would do. If I didn't get my money, I'd call the book people. I'd be like, hey, what's up? And they're like, you already picked it up, Miss Daniels. Yeah, yeah. No, I didn't. She was pissed, of course.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Did if like, she gave, I don't know if I'm using this link though correctly, but if she gave him power of like attorney or something, could he have done it that way? Or was he literally like posing as her? Yeah, he was posing as her. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, he was claiming he was storming.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Not physically, just by right, right, right, right. Yeah, I'm not saying he dressed up like so many, right? He wasn't walked in up there. Said, hey, fellas. Yeah, and of course with the Nike thing, he just tried to extort them and like say, give my client money or else like he had some dirt on them or something. It's just a shady shady guy.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Definitely. Yeah, so I didn't even start it up. I didn't even start it up to try to get him out of that. Yeah, he extorted Nike. He said if you don't give him a hand over this money or whatever, I can't remember what it was, but you know, I'm going to expose you in this and that and Nike's like f off. Yeah. And he kept using these funds for personal things,
Starting point is 01:20:25 like the money he stole from Stormy, he used for jets and fancy meals and just coffee and suits. He's apparently shitty coffee business because he has to steal money from everybody to pay for that. Yeah, awful business man. Including one of his clients that was in a wheelchair. Oh my God, I didn't know that one. Wow.
Starting point is 01:20:40 All right, so. He's so like Trump in a lot of ways. It's crazy how like someone who was so against Trump can be very Trumpian in himself. I just thought that was fucking annoying. Yeah, and so anyway, yeah, he, you get a point for him. Even though this is kind of muller related because it's stormy Daniel related.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Stormy Daniels related, so I'm gonna give you a point for that. Guys, then we have some sleeper beans with the indictment of Stephen Koch. And unfortunately, I'm not gonna be able to count him as a rando, so you actually have to have named Koch to get the point. We've mentioned him a lot too many times on this show. Here's one example from season one back in February of 2018, over a year ago, during the Also on Wednesday we found out about a guy named Cawk and I just thought about it because his name is Cawk.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I don't know, I've been familiar with Cawk for quite a while. Well let me tell you something you might not know about Cawk. Cawk is a banker that lent Manifort money when no one else would and Manifort may or may not have promised Cawk a job in the White House. You can't write this though. Specifically, Secretary of the Army. Oh, what a dick. Cock.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Oh, poor army. I could mock them for days, but only because I was in the Navy. Really cock. Oh god, of course. He finds the one guy named cock. Ah, the good old days when we were in the kitchen. And then we're cooking up some, I know beans. Say yes, yes, beans the most obvious way to go.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Beans don't burn in the kitchen. And then this here is from the Miff Sud ribca and leaky witnesses episode, which is the next episode, which is I think right around the time we started getting our sound together. So check out this clip. Okay, so on Sunday, we found out more about Cawk. Remember from last week, one of the Manafort indictments taught us that Manafort received a big loan from a tiny bank in Chicago that was possibly payback for Manafort getting the CEO of the bank, a job as Secretary of the Army, and that guy's name was Cock. I like to call it the Manafort Cockjub.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Well it turns out that Cock's wife filed for divorce in Chicago a while ago, and in that divorce proceeding, her lawyers asked First republic bank to turn over all documents pertaining to the Manafort loan. Cox attorney tried to block the release of these documents. So a cock block. If a cocked docked block, we don't know if the cock block worked, but those records could become public because they were used in a divorce proceeding. So that's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:23:25 You'll find a link to that article in the newsletter. I wonder where she cited as a reason for splitting. I don't know. What's he called in Reconceiver? Reconceiver or a cock? It's a different suit. Yeah. He's a cock.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Yeah, and we talked about him in four or five more subsequent episodes by name. So you can't use Miss Arando. Cawke has been indicted on bribery charges and it's nice to see one of our drafts get indicted on bribery charges. He faces up to 30 years in prison, so he'll probably get four months. Yeah, but still justice for them. I mean for us. We've seen the indictment. Yeah, yeah. It's nice. Want to be secretary of the army? Dips it. Finally, guys, we have the indictment of Julian Assange and this is a controversial one He's brought up on 18 counts in under the espionage act, which is like whoa If you're not gonna bring like booting up on the espionage act, but you know And this is all about the 2010 stuff nothing to do with the 2016 election
Starting point is 01:24:18 This is all about the Chelsea Manning stuff where he purportedly or allegedly helped her hack and steal these documents, then received the documents, then distributed the documents. And she's back in jail, all right? I believe so. Yeah, she's in contempt. She's being held in contempt and in jail for not wanting to testify in this case. And then, and this is the argument here,
Starting point is 01:24:38 this is where I could like, not be good for first amendment or for journalists. And that's because, basically he's being, there's certain counts that he's being brought up on. And if he hacked and helped steal the material, then yes, you should be charged with a crime if you have evidence of it. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:58 But to receive and distribute information and publish it should not be a crime. Even if you help steal it in the first place. Really? You think so? Yes. Now you should be charged. Those are two separate charges.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Be charged with stealing it. Oh, I see. But don't be charged with the distribution and receipt of it. Because once you charge somebody with receiving information, classified information, even if it's stolen, and distributing it, you could then start jailing journalists for receiving and publishing stolen and classified information, which they do all the time.
Starting point is 01:25:32 And again, two separate charges, one for the theft, one for the distribution and receipt. And America or a cross-club? A cross-club. Okay. So, like, the Washington Post retweeted the WikiLeaks' stolen shit in 2016. Should they go to jail? No, I don't think so. For those for for distributing, distributing, distributing those stolen documents? No, luckily America doesn't have that president say what they're
Starting point is 01:25:54 jailing journalists. And that's this could set that precedent. Good point. By by convicting a sange under the S.B. Anagia act of distributing and receiving not stealing, convict him of that all day every day, but distributing and receiving, then Trump could go forward and say, and jail the Washington Post for distributing the 2016 WikiLeague documents for example. And he's been really talking about doing that for a long time, so this is his chance. He hates the press.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Yeah, yeah. And when wants to put his, you know, foot on their neck. So that's the concern. And it is alarming. But also, the beans that I put on this when I first heard the news was it sounds to me like they're trying to overcharge a sange with crazy shit so that the UK won't extradite him here because Trump doesn't even want him here to stand trial because that's a bad risk of the 2016 shit getting out. Now, of course, you can't extradite someone
Starting point is 01:26:46 and then charge them for their 2016 crimes and the WikiLeaks hack dump shit. But you can, if you bring them in and you start questioning them about 2016 and he lies to you, you can charge them with lying. Because if you start crime, if you start crime after you're extradited, you can be convicted on those crimes
Starting point is 01:27:02 or charged with those crimes, but you can't be charged with crimes after that you committed before you were extra-dited. So you're saying Trump's play could be that if they have these these Trump-dub charges that won't go follow through, then he won't have to come to the US and they avoid the 2016 stuff getting out. Yep, that's what I think. Damn, that's so much more likely now than I think. Those are my beans.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And it was cool because Maddo kind of said the same thing Yeah, I don't know on her show after that. I agree with that piece of it I don't know if I agree with the first part though Which one about the precedent setting and like that being the goal of it? Oh, I see. I don't know if it's the goal, but it could end up being that way. Yeah, yeah, just consequential Yeah, that's always the case with because the espionage act does not delineate whether somebody is a legit journalist or a legit media outlet It could be a journalist. It could be an actor. It could be a spy. It could be a fucking basketball player Yeah, yeah, it doesn't fucking matter if you distribute and receive stolen materials
Starting point is 01:27:53 You know, and you're being charged under the Espionag Espionag Act if you're convicted that opens the door for Trump charging journalists for doing the same thing Yeah, I guess I don't put anything past America, but I just think that he's not an American journalist, number one, number two, he has such a history of being such a foe to us. And none of that matters to the Espionage Acto. Yeah, yeah. I see what you mean.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Yeah. All valid points, but yeah, I think it's far as the logos. Wait, what do you mean it doesn't matter to you? It's just gonna be black and white. Like, they don't care that those things are the case. You're right about him being a foe and all those things, but the, I think it's far as the log goes. What do you mean it's just gonna be black and white? Like they don't care that those things are the case. You're right about him being a foe and all those things, but the law will just, the S.A.N.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A.S.A received and distributed stolen or classified documents. That's what you're
Starting point is 01:28:45 being charged with. One of those are not a nine of the 18 counts. I thought it was also for him helping hack. Those are those are the other counts two of those counts. Yeah. For the hacking. I think he should be brought up and charged for the stealing and the hacking. For espionage. Yes. Okay. Cool. Yeah. But to charge him simply with receiving any human person on earth was simply receiving and publishing documents without defining what a journalist is, would open the door for people in the future to charge journalists under the Espionage Act for the same thing. It is a Rubicon that's never been crossed.
Starting point is 01:29:18 It's a charge that's never been convicted. It's a decision that's never been made by the courts of the United States. I understand the fears. I just don't know if I buy into that exactly, but I think reading the actual documents and like every word of it is necessary to sort of decide if that's what's going to happen. It seems a bit alarmist to me. Well, I'm also going by what Mato, Chris Hayes, Mimi Roca, Elizabeth McCaw, that's their same., Matt Miller, a bunch of people that these are some of the that they wrote up paper on it in 2007. And some things that very well do you see
Starting point is 01:29:54 my alarmist and it could be, they're totally capable of just, you know, I guess, propaganda in a certain degree. But I trust them and I also feel like it's just that's where we are right now. That's how crazy things are It's like this is unprecedented like that's a fact right that this has never been addressed before in the courts And that's alarming in itself. I guess what I'm having a hard time getting to is that this specific action would be the necessary step to Start being able to do that and this is how it would transpire It would be the first conviction of a human person being convicted under the SBI act for distributing just for distributing. And that is pretty scary. Yeah, but that's why I think it's important to read
Starting point is 01:30:29 the actual documents and see like if it's that bare bones or if they put it's been on a context. Oh, yeah, nice. Nice. I haven't, but yeah, I just haven't. Yeah, the first count is for helping steal, receive, and distribute like the whole conspiracy. The next, I think counts nine through 17, or for simple just distribution of the documents. Yeah. And then the other count, the final count 18 is for hacking.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Damn. Or helping hack or steal against the computer act. Well, in the polling and if the evidence is there I think you should be convict if he's even extra-dited I think you should be convicted for helping conspire to steal these documents. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes That doesn't have any negative effect on any journalists anywhere. Yeah I guess I'm a more so than just a charging document But like what would come up in trial and everything too and like see how they argue it exactly and everything
Starting point is 01:31:23 But yeah, but I totally, I totally understand that. I just don't know if I'm like on board with, I don't know, he's one more information myself to go to that place. Yes, right. Well, if, if the SB and Ajak actually defined what a legit journalist was or we had some sort of system for knowing who a legit journalist is and, you know, versus an Assange type asshole, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Yeah, I'm, people might be more comfortable with it, but it doesn't. Exactly. There's a lot of different avenues we could take with this, and I'm just worried they'll take the wrong one on that song, but you should really enjoy. And it can go a lot of different ways. Yeah, but that also totally makes sense, and I think that's a legitimate and necessary thing to be thinking about. It might not even be something we have to worry about.
Starting point is 01:31:58 He might not even be extra-dited in the United States. Sweden might win the extra edition, so he's being brought back up on rape charges there, and maybe he'll go to jail, just be a wife. Just be an wife. It's like an auction. Who's gonna get him? Who's got the best charges going once? Come into it.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Take a number. We haven't even picked on our picks yet. That was a good discussion though. Yeah, wow. Yeah, I guess that's where that stuff gets complicated is like what it's setting on paper versus like you were saying in the context. How the individual case would be argued. Right., the individual case would be argued.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Right. How the individual case would be argued. And then I know that you said, and it's true, that the different details of his life and his other workings and everything are, he's just such a, like, proving to be a very kind of shitty person. But that's not what they're going to say in the court papers. Like, we made this decision
Starting point is 01:32:43 because he's an overall shitty person. But you're correct, too. If he is convicted on distribution charges of stolen material, and then somebody, and then Trump later sues the Washington Post for distributing a dossier, and then that goes to court, and the arguments might be that this is a legitimate news organization. But the other then would have the defense to say we have precedent showing that it doesn't matter if you're a legit news organization. If you distribute stolen and classified documents, you are breaking the SB and Aussie archives.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Yeah. I definitely think that that is also possible. They probably could lose on those merits. And then that would narrow more narrowly define the precedent, which I would hope the courts would do, but with the scotus as it is right now, or if Trump wins in 2020 and puts more stacks, more conservatives on the court, we could lose those. Yeah. And it's a hard thing because on the other side of the coin, it's like if they don't charge
Starting point is 01:33:36 in with this, then what sort of precedent does that said for other Julian Assange's to come along and continue to do the stuff that you're doing? Or for the same Julian Assange's to come along Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And to do the stuff that you're doing. Or for the same Julian Assange. Yeah. To do it in 2016. To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right?
Starting point is 01:33:50 To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right?
Starting point is 01:33:58 To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in 2016, right? To do it in this week's fantasy and diamond league. Ooh, I'm gonna go with AMI. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:34:07 AMI. Yeah. Take it from NoTrimu AG. Go ahead, Jordan. I'm doing Trump inaugural. That's a good one. I think maybe I probably would leave him off personally, my list, because they just got the documents. But who knows, there might be something immediate in those documents that pops up and they go, oh, we get it.
Starting point is 01:34:25 That guy. Yeah, probably not. And it is an indistrictive New York, so they're pretty quick. True. All right, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with Corsi. OK, please don't think of me. No, I've never thought, please.
Starting point is 01:34:40 That's right. Or I didn't think that one. You were the one that switched it. Yeah, yeah. OK, I will do Trump org I Will do Wicky leaks. Oh, yeah, I don't know though. What they do that? I've been thinking about it since they actually tried to Suspena them via Twitter last year or some time they might come back around again with that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:05 I mean, I don't know when, but they're trying. I mean, neither. I have not been doing well in this league, this entire podcast. So as soon as I get an address for WikiLeaks, they're charging them in. I'm going to go with Xaml. Oh, nice. I almost forgot about Deepcuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:20 All right. Eric Prince for me. Oh, yes. Okay. D, yes. Okay, DTJ. Nice. Hail Mary. Ha ha ha. Hail Satan.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Ha ha ha ha ha. All right, let's see if, if cock got in trouble, trying to think of some other old deep cuts. I like this, you're thinking strategically. Yeah. Stratigery. Yeah. Strategic. Uh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:47 No, I know. Have you done Packer yet? Not yet. In your life. No, I'm kidding. It's on my list. Packer. I mean, with a name like that, you got to drink a Pepsi. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Always. Good joke of yours. Thank you. Okay, that's me. Uh, how'll do Trump campaign I'm gonna do Barric. Yes Randall Russians I think some Russians my good ass. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:36:23 Weiselberg will be my last pig. Are we on five already? Or for me, yes. So you guys have one more each, yeah? Yeah, yeah, cool. Okay, I'm gonna do a random in the event that there's another coq-like person who hasn't been named.
Starting point is 01:36:36 That is a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Cock-talk this week. Yes, so last one for you, A.G. Yeah, is Dylan Howard on there yet?
Starting point is 01:36:45 No, yeah. I'm gonna go with that guy. Very good. All right, that wraps up the fantasy indictment league for this week. And guys, we will right back with the interview. Guys, whether you're moving or spring cleaning or Marie condoing your life, you're probably like me
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Starting point is 01:38:57 God is with us today. God, welcome to Mueller, she wrote. Hello, humans. Love the show. Thanks for having me on. Oh gosh, I mean, God, we're a podcast here about the Mueller investigation and we're so honored to have you here to speak to us. I was just wondering what you think about what we know about Mueller's findings so far. Yes, yes, the Mueller report. Shit is crazy, much collusion, very obstruction. And I mean, you humans
Starting point is 01:39:27 don't even know the half of it yet. So much insane shit went down here. It would make your heads explode. I mean, Michelle Bachman was right. She recently said the Trump is the most biblical president you've ever had. And I mean, yeah, this shit is crazier than the Bible. There is so much redacted material left to uncover. And so many things the American public will never be told about. Things like plagues, child trafficking, incest, collusion, damage, testicles, bears, Russian spy bears, murdering people, murder, so much murder. And of course course tons of
Starting point is 01:40:06 obstruction all the time every day in your face out in the open I mean obviously I mean so overall I agree with your findings there is a huge cover-up happening and it's all done to protect idiots from figuring out that their golden cow Trump is actually a criminal traitor scumbag from hell. I mean, seriously, this guy Trump, he's such a traitor. He may expand into the car and look like George Washington. Yeah, you're absolutely correct. Uh, and I'm glad you brought up that obstruction piece and that it's kind of
Starting point is 01:40:39 all happening out in the open. I feel very, uh, sort of indicated that, that you notice that as well. Yeah, I mean, you don't have to be in the open. I feel very sort of indicated that you noticed that as well. Yeah, I mean, you'd have to be in total denial to not see that this is all happening. Yeah, and I think there are a lot of people that are in total denial. And God, I need to confess something to you. Okay, you do. I was raised Catholic and I have a rosary in a prayer candle with Mueller's likeness on it instead of yours and I wanted to maybe formally request a first commandment ethics waiver that allows me to ironically own these objects or maybe I can get a blanket waiver for everyone.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Sure, sure, of course, of course. Go ahead, go book wild in these trying times, feel free to pray to and rub for comfort. Whatever little trinket makes you feel better. I don't get a fuck. Oh, that's wonderful news. And you're right. I think the actual golden cow here is Trump. So I'm glad that we can use our little symbols of idolatry in the Mueller investigation
Starting point is 01:41:41 for comfort. Thank you for that, God. Here's a question for you. There's been a recent rash of anti-choice bills passed in Republican controlled states, including Louisiana, Ohio, Iowa, Missouri, Alabama, and Georgia. And the proponents of these bills use your name as justification for these laws. Can you tell us on the record once and for all to clear this up? Where does God and God's administration stand on this issue? It makes me furious. I mean just today, just today, there was another politician in Florida that said that God told him to introduce a law to make abortion illegal even in cases of rape and you know what I didn't say anything to that as whole
Starting point is 01:42:29 That will not make abortion illegal Okay, that will not pass laws for body parts that does not have in fact Let's go to the even shorter. That will not pass laws for body parts Full stop. I mean this this is bullshit. Keep church and state separate These evangelicals I hate that they use me as their justification Why do these evangelicals think that I the Lord died God give two shits about stopping abortions? If anything, I have all four abortions. I have even read the Bible.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I killed thousands of kids in the Bible. I killed every single first born child of Egypt and they had done nothing wrong. They were good kids. I just had beef with Pharaoh. You know, some of these kids were like 15 years old. So yeah, one called for I, the Lord thy God, the Lord thy God, and extremely, I'm for extremely, extremely late term abortions. I killed so many kids back there. It's insane. I, sorry about that. I was mad with power
Starting point is 01:43:43 and I didn't give the shit about anything. Well, yeah, that whole flood, that killed a lot of people. Yeah, you know, the next flood, at least, it'll be started by humans, so I'm in the clear there. Right, and they blame you for all the shootings, and I think there's a lot of Republicans out there saying God is angry at I think there's a lot of Republicans out there saying God is angry at homosexuals. Is that even true? Hell no. I love gay people. I even did a huge billboard campaign a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:44:14 God loves gays. I put it in the hometown of the Westboro Baptist Church. I put a big billboard that says God loves gays. And you know what? The next year, game errors became legal all over the country. Well, that's good. And I'm glad that you still have a little influence down here. I think that's really important. Speaking of Westboro Baptist Church, what the hell's going on there? Oh,
Starting point is 01:44:36 you know, bunches, stupid assholes. I we haven't heard from them in a while. They've been outrolled by, by you know the douchebag and chiefs so it's kind of nice we haven't been hearing about them yeah he is kind of upstaging them isn't he yeah well god as I'm sure you know many people have been quoted on their deathbeds recently is saying that their only regret is not being able to live long enough to see the finished muller report yes I've I've met some of them. And thanks to Trump, Lackie, William Barr, we still haven't even seen the full report. So my question for you is,
Starting point is 01:45:10 is the unredacted muller report underlying evidence in grand jury material available in heaven? Of course. In heaven, you get to read the full unredacted report. We also have angelic cameras on inside the White House. So, you know, we have cameras everywhere. So we made it into a reality TV show called The Fucking More On. Yeah, that's right. In Heaven, you can curse as much as you want. It's great. You've heard the right. Oh, good. That's right. So in addition to reading the report, of course,
Starting point is 01:45:42 you can also watch Trump freaking out and throwing stuff at all times in the day or night. I mean, he craps himself on the reg. He wipes his feces on the walls. He's just a, what a baby. It's non-stop hilarious. So it's naturally the most popular show in heaven. I mean, say what you will about this idiot, but he's damn good at reality TV. I hear a sange is also smeared poop on the walls. Maybe that's just a thing they do. That's a thing with psychos. Yeah, they, you know, poop on the wall.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Is, is, uh, is Trump getting into heaven? Oh, hell no. No, of course not. I don't even know. I mean, I have the obvious choices to send him to help. But is that good enough? I think maybe purgatory for a while. No Twitter, no phones, no attention, nothing. Purgatory with no chance of growing. All right, well, God,
Starting point is 01:46:40 God, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy, you know, one prayer, one like Facebook schedule to answer some questions for us. It really has been an honor. Do you have any final thoughts for us before you go? Yes, yes. Please, big good to each other. Don't let these evil bastards get you down. You know, Abraham Lincoln, he's a big fan of your show. And I told him that I was coming on. And, you know, he said there were a lot of easily tricked American idiots in his time too. So he asked me to read this to you. We are not enemies but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic cords of memory will swell when again touched, as surely they will be by the better angels of our nature. Amen.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Aw, that Abe Lincoln is a sweet guy. Amen, Abe. Good, dude. Glad he's there with you. Yeah, well, you know, thanks for having me on the show and bless you, ladies, for the good work you do here. You promised to come on the God show soon so I can interview you all on my show too, right? Absolutely. We'll appear on the God show. It would be our honor.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Sweet! It shall be done. The Lord has spoken. All right, guys. Make sure to subscribe to God's new podcast, The God Show. It's available wherever you get your podcasts. And consider joining God's Patreon at patreon.com slash the God show. God is a poor content creator and is broke as a joke. So God needs your help. What else is new? Thank you again so much for joining us and we will see you soon. Alright guys, that's our show. It was a long one this week. A lot of news, a lot of cases, a lot of indictments, a lot of wins. Thank you so much. Some good news this week. I wanted to close with first a federal judge. A federal judge.
Starting point is 01:48:25 There's a lot on Ha Ha Ha. Very nice. Oh, it's a very nice. Very nice. I hope you know what I said. A federal judge has blocked Mississippi's six-week abortion ban, making no exception for rape or incest. And basically, this is the same judge that a few months ago blocked their 15-week abortion
Starting point is 01:48:40 ban, and they come back with a six-week one. He's like, if a fetus is a viable at 15 weeks, what the fuck makes you think? I guess he's consistent. I don't know. You're going to come back with a six-week he's like if a fetus is a viable at fifteen weeks what the f**k you think I guess he's consistent and that you're gonna come back with a six week ban and I'm gonna be cool with it each it uh... and let's see I'm gonna be able to sponge about quote or Patrick's trying to buy a hat and they're like it's five bucks he's like I only have seven yeah yeah seven uh... let's see congrats to the West Point class of 2019,
Starting point is 01:49:05 the most diverse class in the Academy's history. I think they have 25 plus black women who are graduating with that class. Wow. And Dylan Roof, remember Dylan Roof, the white nationalist kid who slaughtered people at Charleston Church? That's right.
Starting point is 01:49:18 He was just sentenced to death. Good. Thank you. I mean, I know death is a sad thing to just hear in general, but in this case, it's put to some good use. I'm, I know death is a sad thing to just hear in general, but in this case, let's put to some good use. I'm against the death penalty, but I, you know, he should definitely be in a way for life. Yeah. Sometimes, why is it premise going to prison and they get more cred than if they were free? So I'm just like, you know what? Yeah. He took
Starting point is 01:49:38 lives. He took multiple lives. You know, like a lot. Yeah. His life should be. I think it was depicted in this is America as well. The child's campaign video. Oh, wow. That was the church choir. Oh, my goodness. Going down okay. Yeah, yeah. That was what makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah. Damn. So sentence to death. Don't roof. Bye. And let's see you guys. Please, please have a meaningful memorial day. And remember, don't think of veteran for their service this weekend if it's connected to memorial days. This isn't about veterans, it's not about us. This is about the men and women who have died. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:11 They are fallen soldiers who have died protecting the constitution. So have a meaningful memorial day. Be safe, take care of each other, take care of yourself. Do you guys have any final words? I have a question. I just wanted to do a quick, a couple of recommendations for Netflix. Wanda Sikes is not normal, it's so good. It's like a bunch of Mueller standup material,
Starting point is 01:50:31 so I was very surprised. It's about the Mueller investigation for the first 30 minutes, so it's like, it's incredible. And then also David Letterman has his series called My Next Guest, Needs No Introduction, and he's having Kanye on on the 31st of May. And honestly, it's very political. Kanye tries to defend like wearing the hat apparently and like he's... And then just David Letterman defends like... Shucks on Jimmy in a song? Oh, good boy. That beer is crazy.
Starting point is 01:50:54 It's like a cat on this laptop. I love it. I love it. But yeah, no, apparently it's a very interesting discussion about how Kanye is actually not political, which is kind of silly to wear the hat and say it's not about politics. He doesn't vote apparently, so like Letterman gets him for that. But he's saying that he feels like wearing the hat reminds him of being in high school, of people beating him up for wearing the wrong shirt or something. And I'm like, Kanye, I get it. You don't like bullies, but you're defending a bully. Yeah, yeah. I just get the one I wore my KKK hood
Starting point is 01:51:21 in high school and people beat the crap out of me. This is just not fair. Right. But some people honestly don't see the hat and do that. I didn't do that, but yeah, of course not. I just think it's a really good discussion. If you don't like Kanye, you might even still enjoy this conversation. Yeah, it's important to see everybody's points to you, I think. Yeah, yeah. Yes, I have a question for you as a veteran back to the Memorial Day thing.
Starting point is 01:51:37 So I have a mentor who lost a lot of friends and he talks about that a decent amount and stuff. So when more like they comes around, I guess I like sent him love for that reason, but is that also kind of like a faux pas? No, not at all. You know, maybe talk to a veteran if they're open to talking about the friends that they've lost, some of them are some of them aren't. But maybe just even acknowledging that, you know, like if you lost anybody, you know, I just want to let you know, I'm thinking about you. Definitely. I just wanted to make sure people weren't conflating veterans day with Memorial Day two different days. I appreciate that because honestly, I was confused. And then we had a listener at the Brooklyn show who was talking about how they lost friends, you know,
Starting point is 01:52:17 fighting for this country and to see it all go to shit right now. It's just, it's a really sensitive time for everyone. In general, Memorial Day would be a sensitive time, but especially in this climate, it's like, yeah, what are you fighting for? What did you die for? Like a lot of people who were probably thinking about that. Yeah, that's why I broke down on the shithole country's episode. Yeah. Because of all the diverse people that I was with in the military and everybody who's lost their lives. Yeah, yeah. Just get reflection time for sure. Yeah. So that's why I don't say have a happy
Starting point is 01:52:41 Memorial Day. Right. Have a meaningful Memorial day. Merry memorial day. I reflect, of course, take care of yourself. You know, enjoy the time off. We all deserve it. We should have way more federal holidays. Anyway, we work too fucking much. Yes, we need an election date.
Starting point is 01:52:53 We have a federal holiday. Everything needs to be everything. Just all federal holidays all the time. All day. Everyday. We should have two months off of years, you know, to take it our own discretion. But anyways, guys, that's the show.
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