Jack - The Barr Letter (Live from DC feat. Katie Phang and Natasha Bertrand)

Episode Date: April 1, 2019

S3E13 - We're live this week from The Miracle Theatre in DC! Joining us is Natasha Bertrand (The Atlantic) and Katie Phang (MSNBC)! We cover the latest on The Mueller Report and more. Enjoy!  

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Oh, I'm so glad you're all here. I'm so glad to be amongst friends. We got a couple of nasty messages last weekend from folks on Twitter saying, oh, you're going to close down your podcast, you're going to shut down what are you going to do now? What are you going to do now? I'm going to wait for the fucking Mueller reports to come out. What are you going to do? So we're waiting patiently, but you guys, we've got hundreds of emails of support and tweets of support. I can't thank you guys enough. I want to promise you, Mollershoe Road is continuing robustly.

And we are not going anywhere. So I'm your host, A.G. And with me is always our Jalisa Johnson and Jordan Coburn! We won this month of Hello, hello, oh Wrong song oh you're graphed. How are you guys incredible? This is amazing. Thank you guys wow Yeah, you are all the best ever. It's been so cool talking to you and if you haven't talked to us yet please hang out after so we can chat. Yeah, it's been so cool. Thank you so much. Atlech, what you guys helped make this community is insane. I love you guys so much.

Thank you. I'm sorry it has to exist on Facebook, but that's where it is for now. Who? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how else to, I mean, I think we'll try to find. We've got so many suggestions for you guys about platforms to move the fantasy indictment late We're working on it. Yeah, somebody made us like a private reddit like subreddit

But I can't get in whoever made it like I want to get in but I'm not I'm not invited They didn't give us the password Also we talked about having a dating site that we set up Yes, singles looking to mingle tonight is the first event Welcome Make some love it's just muller without an e it's m u e l l r No, no is that I Like it. I like it. The dating app for like, mind at awesome people.

Right, Justice Boners for everyone, yes. It is, it's definitely Justice Boners all around. Jordan, what do you think? About Justice Boners? Yeah, what do you think about Justice Boners? I think it's good. I think it's a bit gendered, if I might say. Oh, okay.

Okay. What would be the equivalent? I can't imagine. Too graphic for a... I think it's a bit gendered, if I might say. Oh, okay. Okay. What would be the equivalent? I can't imagine. Too graphic for a... Is this an all ages menu? That's a good thing to establish. Can we say fuck?

Oh, is that... We will be saying fuck, so... Okay, perfect. We'll be singing fuck, drag. Yeah, no, no, no. Oh, you? It's a secret. It's a secret surprise.

No one knows. Now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I feel like we all got saddered. It's like, when we're a little more drunk, give it another go. All right, we'll see. Yeah, we just did a drink before this show. So it'll work out later, probably. I think I want my Miller light back. All right, you guys, I really want to, right now,

I have to bring this person out. You, I'm so excited to have her, first of all, I have to get the piece of paper because her credentials are so, she just has so many, and she's such a fantastic person. But we've got a lot in the show for you. We've got sabotage. We're going to do that. We're going to play the fantasy indictment league here on stage. We have an interview, some fun surprises. But now, joining us on our panel tonight, we would like to welcome MSNBC contributor, Trial Lawyer, Yale grad. Everybody, please put your hands together for Katie Fang. Woo!

They know what is what, but they don't know what is what. They just strut. What the fuck? A tiger, do business, do need opinions for my selfish or a shield. All right, I got it in. All right, you guys want to pull your microphones close to you and see if we can hear you. Give you a shout out. Check.

Check. Check. One, two. Yes. Hello. Awesome. Mom. Katie, how are you? I am I'm speechless, which rarely happens. I'm sorry. This crowd is amazing. God, you guys have such good energy. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for having me. It is all thanks to them. Like seriously, we wouldn't be here without you. So guys, you so much. And let's see, let's start off the show with my new favorite segment, Corrections. I'm sorry. Oh, I made a mistake. Oh.

Thank you. Thank you. That was a mistake. That's awesome. All right, so my first correction here. We had asked, I think it was during one of the daily updates that we do now, about, we were trying to find an 80s movie that didn't break any political correctness rules.

Because we were talking about 16 candles in the date rape scene where he's just like, go ahead, take her home, have your way with her. And everybody was like, yeah, and we're like, all right, wow. That was the one with long duck dong, right? That was long duck oh, right. Wow, that was the one with long duck dong, right? That was long duck dong exactly. Sexy American girlfriend.

We said that one? That was the one, right? That's what I thought. That's the one. So I thought maybe back to the future. I just named one off the top of my head. And I challenged you guys to send me political incorrect things, not because I didn't think there were any,

but because I couldn't think of any at the time, that occurred in back to the future. And here's what we got. First of all, white people did not invent rock and roll. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

And then there was the lovely scene when they referred to the band as Spooks. Oh. And said they didn't want to mess with reefer addicts. And then to which he replied, he called him a pecker wood, I think. And then, so there, we found it. We found the politically incorrect moments and back to the future. But the white guy in Vending Rock and Roll took the cake. All right, we had some about, I was talking about a jam bag, and the reason I call it a jam bag is because of the Breakfast Club, which is 35 years old this week. March 24th, 1984.

Yeah, because remember he goes March 24th, 1984, Shermer High School, Shermer Illinois. And yeah, that's this week. And so I was reminded that because you remember when Ali Shidi dumps her bag out on the couch and he's like, what do you care? It's shit in your purse. She's like, you never know when you might have to jam. So, so that's why I called it a jam bag and you guys sent me a lot of emails. I got up because people watch a lot of Doomsday preppers. And so I decided to watch an episode holy Christ. What the fuck? I got a lot of Trump people.

We are the ones who should be Doomsday prepping. Like get the Laquois! We gotta stalk up! See you guys reminded me that's also called a go bag or a bug out bag. So thank you for that. I said pop it up was asked to wear a wire and he refused. I had said he wore the wire while in the meeting, but he was just asked to wear the wire and he refused. So my mistake was that I said he wore the wire. He actually didn't, he said he wasn't going to. Allegedly.

Yeah, all right. It's always allegedly, right? Yes. Yeah, you can just, just, everybody just put allegedly in front of everything that I said. It's just understood. parentheses. It's always there. But I'm right. Um, I say in the middle of the corrections segment.

Another correction from one of our new daily updates. there is only one felon in the Snoop dog Martha Stewart relationship, and that's Martha Stewart. That's so funny. Snoop was acquitted of all charges. Right, free snoop. My bad. We had also indicated that Republicans could run Avenatti for president now that he's been indicted.

Wow. Wow. And we got to talking about some Republicans who had done just that. And here they are. Joseph D. Morrissey, a longtime Virginia legislator who ran his latest campaign while serving a jail sentence for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, which is quite cool.

Really. He was out front, like saw me at 7-11. We called it hey-duting it. In the 80s, you'd be like, hey dude, Bimebeer. Hey dude. So that he was hey dude, Bimebeer. Hey dude. So that he was hey dudeing it, apparently. On Tuesday, he won his bid for reelection.

Yeah, he won his bid for reelection to the state house of delegates in a special election. Voters reelected to Republican congressmen in the midterms, Chris Collins of New York and Duncan Hunter of California, who were facing federal indictments, who are facing federal indictments for alleged, alleged insider trading and campaign corruption,

respectively. Quick study. Yeah. Texans re-elected Attorney General Ken Paxton as their top cop, even though he's facing criminal charges for securities fraud. And in Montana, voters re-elected rep Greg Gianforte, despite his conviction of misdemeanor assault

after body slamming a journalist. But we got an email reminding us of a socialist named Eugene Debs, who ran from prison for president and almost one. And of course, there was Ron Reynolds, the Texas Democrat, who went to jail for business fraud. There's a ton of examples, but I think the joke was that indictments

won't slow down the Republicans. Woo! Ha! Ha! Ha! It's a good point, not fun though. Not fun. In a daily update for Patrons this week,

I misquoted charge of a light brigade. I said, there's us but to do or die. It's theirs but to do and die. Indicating you have no choice. And that's the, it's an important distinction. There's but to do and die. Finally, we had compared Corsi to Whirmtail from Harry Potter. And I wasn't sure if Whirmtail had turned out to be a good dude at the end. Well, will Wormtail show apparently a moment of weakness and sort of helps Harry,

or rather is reluctant to hinder him? And in exchange, the magical hand that Voldemort gave Wormtail after Wormtail cut us his own hand, because he's a fucking idiot. He strangles him to death. So he doesn't redeem himself completely. Turns out by the time he gains the courage to do the right thing, it's too late to save himself, and all those at this reluctance to be totally evil does help

Harry a smidge, which actually sounds a lot like Corsi. So I think the comparison still fits. And he looks just like him, I swear to God. He does, it's weird, downed. He looks like downed with a droopy dog face. My God, I like you. This episode of Mullershi Road is brought to you by Noom. Sticking to a weight loss plan can be tough, because it's not just about what you eat. It's how you handle your irrational thoughts and obstacles

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have open discussion about the facts. You guys ready to play? Yeah. Yes. Alright, so here's the rules. I'm gonna ask you each question that's not like a buzz in or anything. I'm just gonna ask you individually questions. You answer them.

You'll get two questions each. My hyper competitive Asian. That's not to come out. Don't cheat off for tests. I'm betting on you too. Do this. And we used to do this thing where, if you got a question wrong, I would make you wear a mega hat.

I think we did, yeah. But that was a year ago during the one of the shows we did. And they say that hate crimes are up almost 300% in counties where rallies are held with people wearing these hats. It's a kin now to a KKK hood or slapping a swastika on somebody so I ain't fucking doing it. I just can't bring myself to do it. Fuck that guy.

All right. Let's start with you, Jolissa. According to NBC News, the FBI is expected to brief the gang of eight on Mueller's counterintelligence investigation. Who are the gang of eight? They, the judicial intelligence. There's chair. There's a chair involved. Hey, the chairman, they are the chairman of these groups. Do I have to list all of the? There's eight, so you've got the chair and the, and the, so you got the

dem in the, and the Republican of Intel. Okay, okay, and that's just two. Oh, I'll give me a hint. You got the Democratic Republican of the House Intelligence Committee. Okay, shift, right, joining them by... You don't have to name them. Okay, okay. There's just more like committees, right?

I can use name committees. Is that a good guess? Okay, I'm gonna do a lifeline for this one. If I'm gonna do a lifeline for this one. If I'm, this is a lot more than the end. Hello, see? Hello, see's not? Yes. You got it.

The speaker. Oh, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, yes, use the vice chair of the House permanent right coming on intelligence. Yes McCarthy McCarthy yes Is coming through newness is move By the way, that's newness Chuck Schumer Schumer Schumer. Yep. He's the Senate minority leader Mark Warner. No, no Yes, yes, you sent it until vice chair Yes Now you just need

Yep, you got you forgot Warner now. We just need speaker the house Pelosi and we need the who's the Republican leader in the Senate? Oh. The old, ratty, crypt-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-p-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp-pryp Dick Mitch McConnell. Good job. This week can be seen. Old, wrinkly white dude, but that kind of covers a lot. Yeah, that's pretty much all of them, the nine of the, yeah. So yes, this is all true. This week in NBC reported that the FBI intends to brief the gang of eight on Mueller's counterintelligence investigation, which makes it sound like it's separate from the regular Mueller investigation. We still don't know.

If you're a book club member, you'll know that McCabe referred the counterintelligence investigation into Trump over to Mueller along with the larger Trump-Russia probe, but we don't know if those things are going to be reported separately, or if it's included in the Mueller report. No briefing has been scheduled, but one of the officials has said they expected briefing to occur behind closed doors in the next 30 to 60 days. Okay. So anyway, that's gang of eight FBI, Karen, intelligence.

All right, let's go to the next question. Jordan, I'm scared. This is a fun segment until you realize we don't know what we're talking about. Fake it to you. Fake it to you, make it. That's a good life lesson for a lot of stuff. Fake it to you, make it. Yeah, and then if you have a good boss, she exposes you.

Oh, no. All right, let's do this. All right, Jordan, the Supreme Court of the United States refused to hear an appeal from the mystery company from country A about a Mueller subpoena. As we know, Mueller has completed his investigation. Which US Attorney's Office did he hand this case off to? DC.

Correct. Yay. Yes, according to Politico this week, DC. Correct! Yes! Yes, according to Politico this week, the Supersecret Subpoena Battle involving the secret company from country A has been handed off to the US Attorney in DC. Other cases, Mueller has handed off to the DC-US Attorney, including Rick Gates, which Mueller recently asked to extend for the fifth time his sentencing by 60 days because of his role in several open and ongoing investigations. And the Concord Management case. That's one where the Russians hired American lawyers, Jordan,

you've been reporting on this to try to get all of Mueller's findings through discovery. They even got a hold of some innocuous documents during this discovery process and set up a fake anonymous Twitter account and bragged they hacked Mueller by posting forged and falsified documents and Bragg, they hacked Mueller by posting forged and falsified documents saying they were associated with Mueller's findings. Sounds like InfraWorn. Yeah, yeah. There was a gay frog in... Yeah, find the gay frog.

What was that that we were... Finding the gay frog? What was the bit that we had about the gay frog? Oh, yeah, we were gonna... Yeah, at some point, I think maybe when we start doing more shows, maybe we'll hide a gay frog somewhere in the oh Yeah, cuz Alex yeah in a closet, maybe is no that's the first place they'll I was gonna say and then it's yeah The genesis of said gay frog would be closet inside

He just gets so mad about the frogs. Yeah, yeah That's a great question for Alex Jones. Yeah. Yeah. Whoever did it is a horrible, horrible soul. Right. Something out of what happened to him is a child. I don't know. I'm sure it did. No sympathy. He probably was molested by a frog. That's fair. It should happen. Fix yourself. Plank of frogs upon your house? Yeah. Crazy. It's you, I'm it. All right, Katie. Yeah.

Back in January, a federal judge extended what by six months? The grand jury, well, we think it's six months. The grand jury for Mueller. Yes, correct. Correct. And we were all sort of wondering what would happen with the grand jury after this weekend when Mueller seemingly prematurely ended his investigation. We put beans on the grand jury continuing its work with the prosecutors Mueller has handed

his investigations off to, and as it turns out, those beans came true. We learned this week that the Mueller grand jury is still in paneled, working full steam ahead, robustly. Revustly. This grand jury expires in June if we're correct about it being extended for six months But this is a great opportunity to get to know the community. And I'm sure that this is a great opportunity to get to know the community. And I'm sure that this is a great

opportunity to get to know the community. And I'm sure that this is a great opportunity to get to know the community. And I'm sure that this is a great opportunity to get to know the community.

And I'm sure that this is a great opportunity to get to know the community. And I'm sure that this is a great opportunity to get to know the community. And I'm sure came out in a court filing or this all came out in a court hearing on Wednesday during the case over unceiling information about the secret company from country A that was fighting a mullersapina until it recently lost Now they must pay about 19 million dollars in contempt fines or pony up the documents and during during the hurry during the hearing That is when we found out that the it was continuing robustly and did you guys see the Maddo segment on that when she read the court?

Oh my God, it's great. It was so fantastic. They were arguing like they were about to win. And and she's like, okay, so you saying because the Mueller investigation is over, it's not part of an open ongoing investigation. So we can unseal these documents and they're like, yeah. And then she brings up the US attorneys and or for you the government and she's like so is the is the

grand jury still working? Yes, robustly? Yes, okay thank you. And the other guy from he's like she's like do you want to retort? No you don't have a seat. Bye and they just just sort of ended up. I'm paraphrasing, but it was beautiful. What do you all think robustly means? Exactly. Or not exactly. They're really hard. Right? Because that seems like in these times they wouldn't say that word and let's actually meant something, right? Right. Right. It does it. Yeah. Because everything's pretty calculated in terms of word selection. So I think it means it's pretty robust. everything's pretty calculated in terms of award selection so I think it means it's pretty robust. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all sure. Listen, yeah, but I see. Like at it like the the volleyball scene from Top Gun, right? They're robustly working in that grand jury.

That's where the gay frogs are playing volleyball at Top Gun. That's where the gay frogs are playing volleyball at Top Gun. Alright, let's see. Jalisa, back to you. Mueller filed another document in the Manafort case where the Washington Post asked for unredacted pleadings. You'll remember that last week. Mueller asked for an extension. Oh wait, no.

Sorry, this isn't a question. I'm just talking. Just talking. Yeah, we asked for an extension. Oh wait, no. Sorry, this is no question. Just talk it. Yeah, we're just hanging out. You'll remember. Did he? I mean, if you say so. That was a good answer. Good answer. So Mueller filed another document in the Man of Board case. So yeah, again, this is the one that Washington Post, they asked for unredacted pleading, right? They wanted to unseal the documents. And last week, Tuesday, Mueller asked for an extension to April 1st.

He didn't have a, he wasn't due to speak on it until Thursday, but on Tuesday, he came out and said, we're pressed with work. The press of work is great with us. We need till April 1st, right? And then Wednesday of this week, Mueller filed a motion for another extension to April 15th. Washington Post opposed this, but like to file your taxes. I'm saying you're 15.

So the first one Washington Post was cool with April 1st cool, we're cool. This one they're not cool with but they are going to file a motion to fight it. So let me, I, here's what's weird. Why did Mueller ask for a, why didn't he ask for April 15 know on Tuesday that his investigation was going to end that Friday? I don't think he did. Like why ask for April 1st if you know you're going to be transferring all your shit to the Department of Justice during that time? I just find that very weird. Space theme. It's probably nothing but like, come on.

It's not like him to not be in order like that. So yeah, it seems like he was blindsided the only thing I could think was that he didn't He didn't want to ask for April 15th because he didn't want to raise any eyebrows about well What's going on? What do you need that much time for? But I don't know doesn't seem like a he doesn't seem like a guy who does things to Right for a year. I'm like that. I manipulate thought. You know, I don't know All right, this is actually a question. Lisa. All right. I'm like that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Manipulate thought, you know? Yes. I don't know. All right, this is actually a question, Lisa. All right, I'm ready.

We learned Wednesday that Mueller briefly spoke to a witness in January that we didn't think was part of his investigation. She's more well known as the beauty to Paul Erickson's beast. Oh. Yes. Who is it? That's Relloutina.

Yes, Maria Bhutina. Bhutina. Is it Bhutina?, Maria Bhutna. Bhutna. Is it Bhutna? Yeah, Bhutna. Bhutna. For my understanding, the women take the men's name, like Offred, kind of a thing, and Handmaid's Tale. So like, Bhutna would be Bhutna.

So I figured Bhutna would be Bhutna. Bhutna. So it's Bhutna. Or Bhutna is nice. I like it. I call it Maria Bhutna for for a long time because it just had a better ring to it I honestly don't know We should ask her have her on the show I'm sure she's being supported back to Russia. Yeah, we can just

Delta has Wi-Fi I'm totally sure isle just letter come by a minute. That would be that would be fantastic. Yes Maria Bootna, Mueller's team apparently questioned her in January but it didn't appear she was central to his investigation into Russian election interference according to two sources familiar with the matter. They only questioned her once for about an hour and while you'd think they'd have asked her about NRA money laundering they did not. They instead asked her about completely different things which we'll talk about later in the show. But you are correct. Thank you. I redeem myself. Yeah.

All right. This is kind of a weird one because the answer has changed 16 times this week. What? Jordan? Yeah. On Thursday, the Justice Department released a very important piece of information about the Mueller report. How many pages is it? Oh, OK, currently, currently, it is definitely over 300.

Yes. Does that count as the right answer? Yes. OK, cool. I've also heard just under 400. Yeah, right, which is really now I guess. We've heard 1,700. We've heard it's long as far as we do.

We've just said today it's 400. Yeah. Yeah. Did he say 400? I think he said it was 400 excluding exhibits. Yeah, like the millions of pages of underlying evidence. Yeah, that's not included. So that's that's not counting redactions right? They would just be the same page count. Same page count.

They take out the words right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, straight up that. And we're gonna read it on Molar Shiro when it comes out everyone. Are you guys going to not speak during the redactions? We're gonna have, we're gonna have, we're gonna have, the moon. No. We're gonna have that, that's a very good point.

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Oh my God, that's so many lizards. It's a lot. It is. That's so awful. That's a horrible thing. How many ostriches does this thing? One ostrich. One giant thing. How many ostriches does he? One ostrich. One giant frog.

One gigantic ostrich. Oh. Well, send him a gay frog jacket in the mail. Yeah, so let's see here. This 300 page thing raises questions about bars for page summary, obviously. Mueller only had to report who he charged and who he declined to charge, but the Justice Department, there's the Justice Department official who said it's

over 300 pages, almost 400 now, who knows. And also said the report was comprehensive. It's not just a list of indictments and declinations or people he declined to indict. It's Ken Starr's report was 445 pages, but that report was conclusive. He drew a lot of conclusions in that report, and I have a feeling Mueller doesn't.

He doesn't strike me as a conclusive fella. And check this out, the Watergate Road Map, the one we've been calling a Jaworsky report, sent to Congress by the Grand Jury. That one, that's the one that made Nixon resign, was 62 pages. Bar says he will release a version of the report to Congress within the coming weeks,

but he will not make the April 2 deadline that was demanded by six Democratic leaders of committees. Now they're saying it might not go to the White House for executive. But Bar said that he said that Trump told him that Trump would defer to him, no big shocker there, and that it would not be going to the White House. Although legally speaking, they could still come back around and say that they want a assert executive privilege, but right now it's going to be redacted and allegedly, I love

that. Robert Mueller is participating in the redactions as it speaks out. I wouldn't, that's okay, because I would, I tend to believe that, because Mueller would be able to say, you know, because you don't want to reveal the names of these. Mueller would know best.

Yeah, Mueller knows best. Mueller knows best. Yes, yes. Whole new podcast. Yes. Because I podcast. Yes. Because I have daddy issues. Hahaha. Woohoo!

The crowd cuts. Really hit home for you, Jordan. Hahaha. Alright, let's see. Did I ask all my questions? Did I miss one? We still have one for Jordan and I It's just Katie right Katie. Yeah, but I feel like I ran out just this really is the thing imprah. Katie. How is your day?

I probably got better with the bar announcement that we'll be seeing the Mueller report in redacted form in a couple of weeks. It got better. Yeah. That'll be my reaction to you. I am glad they're releasing with redactions so that we can see how much they pulled out of the report. That's going to be really important. Unless they don't do that, they just redaction here. You know, sometimes they'll put type the word redacted. I think it's gonna be a lot of redactions I know but something like if they do the black bars and you know how much is missing But if they just put redacted in in parentheses, you don't know I was gonna say hopefully Manafort's team does it right? Yeah

Manifords lawyers So we can just copy and paste from underneath the text. Yeah This weekend Republicans can't I Should say Trump reporters my husband's right a different time though. It was a different time. He's not a Trump supporter. He's not Just a he's an old Reagan Republican, but now he's like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. I can't.

What does he call himself then? A Reagan Republican? He doesn't. And he actually now doesn't appreciate that I call him a Republican. You after outing him. Stop saying that. It's like Prince.

He's like the guy that formerly was known as a Republican. He's like a symbol now. Yeah. That's right. He's been formerly known as a Republican. She. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

That's George Conway, isn't it? Yeah. That's why. That's why. Yeah. Yeah. How can you be married to Skeletor? That's why I call it. Yeah. Yeah. How can you be married to Skeletor?

She looks like she looked directly into the arc of the Covenant. That's a quality wrap wrap. She's too young. Yeah, me and Julie said it didn't go in there. She's too young. Hanging next to her. Is that a movie? My Kelly and too young. I'm just aging next to her. Just laughing. Is that a movie? My Kelly and Conway, I'm aging.

No. No. Oh. Oh. I think my favorite thing I saw, I think it was this week or last week, somebody, you know, Cuomo interviews her all the time. And somebody just put, they put Kelly and Conway on the chiron and put Cuomo on the left and this dog on the right.

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order. That's legacybox.com slash AG and save 40% today. Get started preserving your past. You'll be glad you did. All right you guys guess what time it is? It is time for Sabotage! Yeah! I don't want to listen to the whole song, I love that song. Can't stand it! Okay. Guys, this sabotage is pretty interesting. Kushner was seen leaving the Senate Intel Committee Chamber Thursday morning. We didn't know they called him back in, but apparently he was behind closed doors with

the committee. Katie, have you heard anything about this? No. Sadly, no. I just, I don't know why, like I'm trying to figure out why he was there. Like, he had he had a justice boner for more than four hours and was directed to return to the Senate and tell committee behind Glaser. And feeling things won't go away. Neither will you. Fuck off. Wait, maybe Jared Kushner is a mole. The mole. The mole! He's not a blood relation.

He's not a blood relation. And he's always being kicked to the curb if you think about it. That will make sense to maybe he's a fool. Oh yeah, yeah. I don't know. I would love that for the story. It was the Intel committee. I tend to think maybe he was there about something regarding a security clearance. What? What security clearance. Yeah. What?

Security clearance. Yeah, exactly. Come and say what? Security clearance, what? Yeah. I have one too. Did you know that? Oh.

We all have one, don't we? I have a little party favors. I earn mine. There was something else that happened to you that I wanted to bring up Ivanka. Apparently somebody got a hold of emails between Ivanka and Cohen. Did you guys see these emails? Where Abilol, the lawyer for Ivanka and Jared, what a cool dude he is. And I I love the security clearance thing because he first Abilol was like no Trump didn't have anything to do with President Abilol, then his second statement was like oh well if if he did we

didn't know about it and the third statement was if he did Abilol didn't know anything about it. He was not going to take one for that team. Fuck no he wasn't. So Ivanka apparently, or Abby little sent emails to Cohen and we have the emails where they're like, you need to like, distance Ivanka from Trump Tower. Don't say that she's part of it. Even though she's got a whole fucking floor on there for a spa, probably being run by Cindy Yang. The Cindy Yang residency only had Trump Tower.

Yeah, but yeah, that was basically it. Like don't talk, just distancing her from Trump Tower, Moscow. Yeah. So that was also an interesting thing that happened late in the week. So I wanted to tell you guys about it. I thought it was weird. I wish there was more info on it. I don't know why we don't know.

But I think that the Senate Intel committee is probably the only committee that's actually investigating any of this in a bipartisan matter, or in a bipartisan way. So, and that's even if he is. So, I'm glad he was there. I just don't know what for. So, I'm if you find out more about that. Yeah. We'll tell you. He's a let you know. Put some beans on that. I'm going out. That's the one. All right, you guys ready to play the fantasy indictment league?

Woo! How has Edim Bell died? He brings us an email. How? We may have gotten one. We get a lot of you down there. It's like they're like the wealthiest organization in the world. I don't know how they have ensued us.

Oh, they're not profit? I don't believe that. They're not profit. They are non-profit. That's true. They're actually pretty socialist. When you think about it, because they split all the money up evenly, that's how come the green bay packers can get to the Super Bowl. It's not like, it's not like baseball, money ball. That's capitalist fuckers. Happy opening day. All right, so... Yeah, it's March Madness's opening day and you guys are here with us. I love you.

All right, so this week, Jordan, you get to go first this round. I pick second. Okay. Okay. So Lisa, you go third. Okay, okay. I'm doing a Trump inaugural. Oh, yeah. inaugural. And I want to explain she with the fantasy indictment league in case you aren't in case you don't listen That'd be weird if you're here They just tune out Regardless of whether Indicements come from the Mueller probe or they come from any of the 19 Investigations he's handed off

Or have been started by US Attorney's offices, AGs, DAs, the New York financial fucking guys who got money out of Deutsche Bank from Deutsche Wannalone. Any of those indictments are going to count, and I'm an accountant booting it to, for why not, if that happens. I don't know, I think she's going to be done, she's going to be let go for time, serve, cooperated, they'll send her back to Russia. That's scary. I think she's gonna be done. She's gonna be let go for time serves cooperated. They'll send her back to Russia. That's scary. I miss Papa Putin.

Such a sense. Putin. Putin' out. Putin' out. Putin' out. Putin' out. I like Putin, no. We can't call him Putin.

Putin's delicious. All right, I go second, right? Yes. And I'm gonna go with Manafort. That guy is just fucked. In a $32,000 lizard jacket. Right. I read a headline that said he gets to keep his fancy clothes. And his house is, he still worth about $4 million.

He's still worth about $4 million. Wow. Didn't even have for furniture. Yeah. Oh, how does he get to keep his house? Probably the government was like, well, these are mortgage to the fucking hill. You have them.

We don't fuck care. Yeah. Pay your own debts, asshole. Be honest, what I would do. All right, Julie, so who do you got? I will do Eric Prince. Fuck. Yeah, that's a good one.

That's a good one. That's aggressive. Yeah. That Med a good that's aggressive. That Mediason interview was insane where he's like, no, I have the transcript right here. You didn't say that. And he's like, well, the transcript's wrong. I like that was aggressive. I like that one. That was aggressive. I like that one. That was that's the kind of journalism every single Person needs to interview these people like that. That has how it needs to go I even took it easy on Rob Goldstone When he was on my show and Abinatti was a dick

He was he was like I'm not gonna don't ask me that Like all right. Well fuck get the fuck out of my show Ask me that Alright Eric Prince Julie's a Jordan who you going with Brady? He's Fox Elliott brody. That guy is definitely in a lot of trouble The brody bunch The brody bunch is just all the women. He's paid to have abortion. He's so gross. Yeah.

Oh. Here's Sarah. She's so gross. He is. For a while we were saying maybe it was a cover up, like maybe he was just sacrificing himself, but I doubt it. Yeah, no, it's believable that he's that gross. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and he's no harder. No, no. He's got problems. Yeah. Yeah. 99 problems. Yeah. I'm sure.

I'm making one. I'm making one. And the bitch is like 12. Why are they all pedophiles? Oh, I meant like 12 bitches were problems. Oh. I mean, with Brody, really, anybody will have to get pregnant. Oh, God.

Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. No, I mean, you didn't do it. That's true. Thank you. Yeah. Legitly. Wrong time. How do these people just like pop back up again in real life? I don't understand. I don't know either. Witness protection. Yeah. They all end up at like my blue heaven. At the Applebee's eating popovers

But like I understand it. It's fucking crazy Well, he's a whole other story. Yeah, there's just a lot of sex trafficking a child pornography Yeah, it's rampant in that circle. It's fucking disgusting. Speaking of that, I'm gonna go with Pecker. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha We had this thing called movie phone before the internet. Welcome to a movie phone! Hello! Thank you for dialing movie phone! And we would dial over and over again just to hear him say, you've selected Pecker! Pekker!

Pekker! Pekker! Pekker! Pekker! That'd be a good Tinder line. Wait, she's young to remember. She had a good paper line. We're way too young to remember. Yeah. Jordan's like, she had a good paper job though.

She's like, why are they laughing? I grew up with a reference to movie fun. I'm just kidding. You grew up with the internet. Oh yes, I'm fangirling. Fangirling. Fangirling. Is that even around anymore, fangirling? I think it is technically.

It's like the being of that kind of thing. So it's hanging. Yeah, not the first pick. I think it's for porn. Okay, it's probably just me. It's still like how is it existing? If not the band. Bandigos for pandigos for porn.

Big. They should really switch. Try different markets. We're talking about Bing, Bing is for porn. Bing is for porn? Yeah. Wait, but it doesn't change, like, it's still searchable in your history.

That's true. I gotta go, everybody. When I talk to everybody, like, a rush just to clear their search history down there, like, clearing out my search history. When I die, I need somebody to go in and make my search history more interesting. Because it's like, why is my finger red? Who is stone? You know, it's all just politics and like health problems are like trying to figure out

what's going on with my eyelashes or something. So I need somebody to go in and spice up my internet search history when I got you a G Jalisa, who's your second pick here? Weiselberg Okay Really? He was given immunity, right? But pretty narrow. He's got limited use. Yeah, okay, okay, man Do you know? No, no, no, I think I'm good pick. Oh, standby. Yeah, he's got limited. Okay, okay. May I do another? No, no, no, no, no. I think it's a good pick.

Oh, stand by. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I appreciate it. I don't think Alan, you know what? Alan's has so much information. He's so valuable.

Yeah. He's like a holy grail of Trump organization in fact. A grail? Yeah. I'm channeling the Raiders of the Lost Ark references because you started that. I know and I took it to find my Python. I believe it is my turn. Julian Assange.

With or without his cat. I would love to see the first cat indicted. Oh yeah, that's my next cat right there. You can't trust anything anymore. That guy's a genius dude. He could have given his cat a brain. A different brain. Who does buddy Elon Musk come in? Yeah, I've been working on that.

Underground tunnels and cat brains. a Twitter a Sanchez cat Well now there is Moo 50 50 whoever does it All right, I'm gonna go with You took that I got pecker. I'm gonna go with satir You took that I got pecker I'm gonna go with satir They post-poned it right yeah, they postponed his testimony they postponed it because

Too much shit No, basically they were like we need what was it we're handing over the cases and stuff like that We need time to hand over the cases, and I think basically what's happening and this is actually makes sense to me Is anybody who was gonna come in and testify to any, to tell our, or, uh, judo here committees, now that the Mueller investigation is over, they, they can go to Mueller and say, what is the work you did so we don't double up on your work. And also, just to double check, we want to make sure we can ask these questions now that your investigation, they aren't part of an open-on going investigation for you.

So they're just, I think, exchanging information because they want to just be the most efficient they can, honestly. I think they'll reschedule it. That makes sense, yeah. Right. Pending Mueller's report, it's gonna be a strategic shift, I imagine, and how they were gonna proceed down that list. Well, they were very careful in terms of not wanting to overlap too much or impede upon what Mueller was doing, and so that's the reason why they were being mindful of it. But now it's a free throw. Yeah.

Yep. All right, Jolissa, who's your number three? Brittany Kaiser. See you. Yeah, Camana. Cambridge Analytica. One of them, they have like 90% there's a wheat for guy and nicks and they just so many now they have

hammered out a asphalt. All right my turn. No. George's turn. Yes. Tony Fabrizio. Yeah we got in trouble for that. So an email to us and said that it's not okay for us to do the Italian omniscience. Fabrizio. Somebody here said it was okay. It's not Tony Fabrizio. Poutana. Poutana. That's true. No one ever gives a shit for the Russian accents. Oh yeah. And it is not. So do Fabrizio in a Russian accent man. There you go. Yeah, problem So, uh, Fabrizio Fabrizio Fabrizio. Yes, you smell delightful. But yeah, it is significantly more entertaining to say it like yeah I'm gonna go with AMI Oh man. You got it. You got it. You got it. We did a Trump inaugural already. Yeah, okay. You're still the Trump campaign. Yes, and they're still the Trump org

Trump org, please. Yeah, yeah Police There's still some iteration of Trump foundation still around you by the way that lawsuit still pending it is so it's still on themes Jordan Kushner Jordan? Uh, Kushner. Oh, you dick.

Oh. Yeah, it's going to take a while. You know, really, we make these week to week as if anything is actually time. I know Kushner's been on the draft since 2017. And we're like, right. It's right. That's true. We've been over onto the DL for Donald Trump Jr.

He should have been. Yeah, we would say DTJs of forever ever. Since his conception. I grew up in the womb. I'm gonna do a deep cut. I'm gonna go boy-yarkin. Oh. I don't know, I forget.

Sounds Russian. Yeah, yeah. He was a senator. He did some shit. Now he's got to pay. Yeah, that's just really it. Boy, I can Russian expi pressured Manifort over debts to an oligarch. That's the okay. Derri Pops. Yeah, definitely. Oh, olig.

Olig. Olig. We're on a first name basis. Olig Fabrizio. Olig Fabrizio. All right, Julie, so who's your last pick? Yeah, I'm going to take junior. You call the Katie. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right. Delicious. Okay. Like not like he's attractive delicious I thought no now. I'm at like delicious and dited delicious just to see deliciousness Yeah, someday seriously Eric Prince will be indicted All right you guys that is how we play the fantasy and diamond league

You guys can play on Facebook, sorry it's on Facebook. Everyone, it is time for the interview. We are so excited and we're so lucky to be joined by our next guest. She's a staff writer for the Atlantic. She's an MSNBC contributor. Her expertise in the Trump-Russia probe is unsurpassed. She's absolutely incredible. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Natasha Bertrand. We got you a comfy chair. That was pussy riot, by the way, guys.

Yes, we brought you up to pussy riot. So you know, all right, let's see. I wanted to ask you about, first of all, I wanted to ask you about the Bhutna Bhutna questioning that happened back in January, and how it wasn't about NRA money laundering. How is that? So, I have to be very careful about how I discussed this because it was a weird kind of background off record conversation.

But my understanding is that the NRA money laundering angle that was being investigated by Mueller reportedly at one point was not part of Bhutina's case. And I believe that's the conclusion that they came to because Mueller's team didn't ask her about that in their interview. And yeah, so it is a bit weird, but I think that the one thing that they were really trying to talk to her about was like JD Gordon, and like all of these Trump associates that she was kind of closing up to during the election.

But the NRA thing didn't come up, apparently. And that's weird, right? Because Erickson wasn't, I think, I remember for a long time ago, he was in touch with Dearborn, sent an email with a subject line, Kremlin Connection. Yeah. Don't open this.

Don't open this. Right? So I mean, if you're gonna interview the beauty, you might ask her about the beast. Yeah, that's actually, yeah, Erick the Ericsson sent Rick Dearborn an email. I think it was like May 2016 saying that Putin really wants to have this good relationship with Donald Trump. He's very serious about it.

And Dearborn, I think forwarded that to someone else in the campaign, not really sure what came of it, but of course, Alexander Torshin, who is the Russian bankers, close to Putin, he did end up chatting with junior at the NRA event that summer. So there is a connection there. I guess I just can't figure out why I asked about JD Gordon. I mean, they went to sticks together. Remember that? We played Domoari, goto, Mr. Roboto when that happened, but I mean what are some of the other maybe things that she might know about JD Gordon?

You know, I don't know. I think they like Went on a date, but she denied that it was ever anything romantic. I would too And JD was like an ex-military guy, so he would see him. I mean, even Brutina's lawyer admitted that he would seem like a really good target for a Russian spy, because he's kind of susceptible to flattery by younger women. He's kind of like lost in the sea there. So the idea was that she was targeting him because he was a member

of the campaign and because maybe he knew some secrets, but then her lawyer was like, but nope, that's not what she was doing. So guess we don't have any other explanation for that. But I think it seems pretty clear that she was at least trying to kind of infiltrate the campaign and put in like, it was a pity date. Oh, yeah, I mean, they, I think they went out a few times and she wrote him emails and was like, oh, you look really good on TV today.

You know, your points were great and he would like write to her in Russian. And yeah, it was, so good. The language of Russian. The language of Russian. He is susceptible, isn't he? I don't lie, in cell.

I don't know how he found time out of his busy schedule of feeding his pet tarantula and blocking his fedora to go to sticks with food now. Finally, I wanted to talk about a piece you put out today. Incredible piece you guys, in the Atlantic about whether Congress is going to get the full Mueller report and the full Monty. So maybe you could tell us, first of all, what we know so far about the Bar MMO. Well, now they're, well, the Bar MMO from Sunday or the Bar MMO, the Bar Letter from today. they're a letter, yeah, both because I don't think we talked about the today letter, which is amazing. Yeah, today's letter was like a complete walk back.

But so the memo, obviously from Sunday, was just saying that Mueller had concluded that there was no conspiracy between the campaign in Russia and that their Mueller had kind of not been able to decide whether there was obstruction that was committed. And the Democrats, the House Democrats, were really unhappy with that because they felt like it kind of gave Trump the head start before we even saw the full Mueller report. And as we've seen, he's taken full advantage of that kind of going on this victory tour, which is a bit premature because the report is 400 pages long, and it probably outlines a lot of bad conduct by the Trump and the campaign. But so the Democrats, kind of the senior Democrats in the House held a briefing for reporters yesterday.

And they said, you know, we're going to subpoena for this thing. If we don't get it by April 2nd, they said we want all the grand jury material and they're really pissed off at bar because they don't think bar should be redacting it outright. They think he should go to court with them and get a court order to release it to them.

But the Democrats are really, you know, they're digging in on this. They want to see the classified information as well, which maybe would only go to the gang of eight, but all members of House Intel really want to see it as well, and think they're titled to it, just because of the precedent that was set by House Republicans, right? In the last Congress, when they asked for and they received all of these classified documents on Hillary Clinton, they received all of these classified documents on the Russian investigation. So they're like, okay, well, D.O.J. could handle over that stuff and surely we can get things that are in our oversight capacity in this

probe. So that's kind of the strategy they're using. They're also using the strategy of the Watergate roadmap, which the grand jury material was handed over to Congress and that eventually led to Nixon's impeachment, because it's really important, right? I mean, you're seeing all of the evidence, the witness testimony, and I mean, this is key to understanding the findings. So today, Barr puts out this other letter to Congress, and he says, look, you're gonna get this by, you know, sometime in the next few weeks, mid-Abrall.

It's gonna be seen by the public too, but oh, we're also redacting these four pockets of information, which is a grand jury material, classified information sources and methods. Any material that may be damaging for someone's reputation, that might be a third party, which is a really interesting bucket that I imagine is going to spark a lot of controversy. And the last one is the last one is ongoing investigations. But yeah, but that but that one that he mentioned about you know some some information possibly being derogatory about people who weren't charged is something the Democrats already kind of foaming at the mouth over because they're like well like who do you consider a peripheral figure like you know I don't consider Trump Jr. a Jared Kushner to be peripheral figures in this.

If you met with Russia and you're probably not a peripheral figure. So, so they're a little bit cautious on that. But overall, Bar said also that he, this was not, the memo he put out on Sunday was not a summary of Mueller's findings. It was just the top line conclusions and that he doesn't want anyone to think that it was comprehensive.

Don't worry, bro, we don't. And then I believe he went on to blame the media for mischaracterizing what he put out as a summary. Why do you think he amended that? Do you think it was his own conscience? Or... My understanding is that he was not anticipating the blowback. That's my understanding of it.

And, you know, a f**k you motherfucker. And this is something that actually, you know, experts who've studied this thing for this special council and independent councils for years have said like, look, public pressure is really what's going to make, it's really going to make the difference here. Because ultimately, the special council has different obligations, the special council reports to the AG, independent council like Ken Star report its Congress. So yeah, it really is going to be and I think the blowback that he faced really did, it made the difference here. Yeah. Yes. That's you guys. That's you guys. That's you guys. Good job blowing back.

James Faire, do you um, are you with me? I think it feels like for the destruction piece. Um, do you think Mueller not drawing a conclusion on obstruction was more procedural? Not just that he didn't, he couldn't figure it out on his own? That was my initial instinct. I was like, OK, maybe he figured he can indict a sitting president anyway, that it's against COJ policy.

And so he was kind of like, well, I guess this is an unanswered question. We're not even going to try because he didn't even really try to subpoena the president for an interview. So if he was cautious in that respect, then why would he kind of try to go down the road of upending DOJ policy, which is not binding, but upending it just for the purposes of this? I mean, I imagine he'll lay out the evidence in the report, which again, is nearly four on her pages long. I mean, what is he feeling that space with? If not, like, evidence of this stuff. But yeah, I mean, Bar's decision to kind

of co-opt that while not necessarily wrong, because again, Mueller reports directly to the AG and the AG as the final say on this stuff because it's the regs And it was an over correction from the star era It's still seen as inappropriate because bar could have taken that and given it to the house So so yeah, I think I think most people I'd speak to think it was a procedural thing Yeah, I'm speaking to the regs you you quote Neil cuttell in your piece He helped draft the special counsel regs in 1999. He said, the regulations set a floor, not a ceiling on the amount of transparency.

And I thought that that was just a really, really good point to make. Yeah, again, a Neil wrote them. And like he, it's really all at the bar. And, you know, Congress can issue a subpoena, but like, you know, the Marshalls are gonna go and like, you know, enforce the subpoena, the DOJ. It's not going to happen, so it's going to go to the courts.

And it's going to be this whole long-protected battle when Barr ultimately has the final authority of discretion to give to Congress what it wants. And the grand jury material by law, he has to redact. But again, there's a process he can go through with Congress to get that to lawmakers so yeah I mean I think it's just interesting how history plays out like this was an over correction again from the staria and now we're kind of facing the consequences of having a political pointe determined what the public is going to see from the findings of someone who's supposed to be completely independent of politics.

So it's just it's an irony. So but the dumbest field there's really nothing stopping bar from giving them the grand jury material. I mean, we've got the precedent, right, and we've seen it. And so and we've known for a while now that the White House hired like 17 lawyers and they were all just going to do executive privilege. Like that was their whole that was was gonna be their whole game plan. And, and so it just seems like that's really the only obstacle to releasing the full report is what Barr and the president decide to take out of it. Right. And actually something else that was really interesting about Barr's

letter today is that he, he's not going to actually give the report to the White House. Well, he said he has no plans to give the report to the White House. But I'll do it spontaneously. Exactly to privilege, right. But, you know, the president, and he said, like, I'm relying on public statements from the president where he said that he, I have, you know, he has full confidence in me, basically, to do what I think is right. And bars like, okay, well, that being said, I guess I'll just go ahead and give this to Congress and the public without taking it to the White House first for executive privilege review.

Whether or not that actually happens, I think people should be aware of that, but because he did say he has no plans to do it, but it's interesting that the White House isn't aggressively coming in and asserting those privileges. That, because that was something that Democrats were really afraid of, that the White House was pretty much

gonna scrub it before it went to the public. And he seems to be alleviating those fears of pitnails. Let's say he does. Let's say at some point Trump does assert his executive privilege. How, if we think that it's inappropriate, like if he redacts a bunch of stuff and we that it's inappropriate, like if he redacts a bunch of stuff and we think it's inappropriate, is there a way, is there any recourse for that?

Is there any way to litigate it? Would the Congress know that what he's taken out is not executive privilege? Like how do you even challenge that with bar as the HadoDOJ? I don't, that might be a question for Katie. I don't know. How that would be litigated. So I thought it would be litigated.

So the privilege issue can be litigated. It's just, it's problematic because there is a lot of discretion given in that privilege. I mean, there's a, it's a very broadly applied privilege. And so it's a little bit problematic. But executive privilege has been tested in courts previously with Clinton, with Nixon, with other people. And so it can go little bit problematic, but executive privilege has been tested in courts previously with Clinton, with Nixon, with other people. And so it can go and be litigated.

I think the fact that you're not going to see the assertion of executive privilege right now is, as you said, very telling. But it doesn't prevent him from doing it. But I think ultimately it'll end up having to be litigated if that's what they end up doing. Is it subject to the crime fraud protection? All privileges are subject to crime fraud exceptions. Yes. All right, so if somebody knows what he redacts is crimes, crime-ing.

Cri-me-a-river. Then, fraud-ing, fraud-ing, and crime-ing, and fraud-ing. Cri-me-ing and fraud-ing and frothing. Criming and frothing. Criming and frothing. I I suppose that that could be litigated then. Okay. All right. So there seems to be some sort of protection against that.

So that's good. All right. Well, thank you so much. The piece in the Atlantic is outstanding. Everybody please put your hands together for Natasha Bertrand. MSMAC contributor. And staff writer from the Atlantic. And the thing I loved about your piece today

is that you don't just start talking from what you assume I already know. You frame it and you give me a context and a lot of editors work. In fact, we were- It's not like we were in this for two years, you kind of just like get right into it. They're like, I don't know what's going on. So they kind of put that layer. It's helpful.

Yeah, in fact, I think we were supposed to have a drink last night and you were like editing. Love you though. I do it. Anyway, we're so glad that you were here. And while we have you and Katie here, we would love now to bring back a fan favorite segment and take some questions. So, Renato, do you still have your own podcast? Yeah, it's complicated. What's so complicated about a podcast?

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Hi! So I'm like, Joe Blow, Housewife of Three. I'm like, outside maybe once a year. So I vote and then I protest with my WTF sign which works for every protest. So other than listening to your protest and tweeting back at Donald Trump, what else can I do? What else is there? Like further regular folk who helped to do stuff for a living. I think right now the most important thing that we can do, even while we discuss and think about the Mueller investigation, we need to focus on 2020 and we need to not have this be an issue in 2020.

Have you heard? I'm so sorry. I think I just wanted to say really quick that I think that we found out today 75% now it was 56% said that they didn't think that the bar thing meant that there was no collusion. Now it's 75% want to see the Mueller report. They aren't happy with Barr's memo. That number is just going to keep going up as they realize they've been fleeced, I think. But another 86% said that the outcome of this bar memo is not going to affect the way that they vote.

And that's outstanding because we don't want it to, because from here on out, it can only get worse for the president. It can't get better for him. So I'm really happy about this. So what we need to do is we need to focus on 2020, focus on the issues, find a candidate, back on with everything you got, and we'll do it out.

And then we all just need to vote for whoever wins the friggin' Democratic nomination. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. There's also, have you heard of Swing left? Swing left is awesome. If you haven't heard of it, definitely go on that website.

I think it's just SwingLeft.com. Yeah, I've asked Swing left on Twitter. Right. And then if you're in a district that is like a swing state, you know, or a state that's a swing state, they'll line you up with a campaign and then you can go out and do grassroots things, or if you're not in that district or state, then you can still do stuff from where you are. So it's a really great organization. We donated all of our proceeds from the calendars. Yeah.

The first time. The first time. And it's news. I mean, I don't need to tell you guys how important it is that we get the flip the Senate too. But just the midterm elections and flipping the House look at what we're now being able to do. Can I say one thing too?

From a legal perspective, the reason why it's so important to vote, Donald Trump is stacking the federal courts right now. And he's doing it in a pretty stealth mode. And ultimately the decisions that are made as high as scotus are made as a result of who's in office. And so that's the reason why the vote is so important. It transcends just what happens down the street. It's ultimately, he ends up being the judge because as we know, if the subpoena had been served to pull Trump in to testify, it would have gone to the Supreme Court the subpoena have been served to pull Trump in to testify it would have gone to the Supreme Court and it would have been decided by those justices to

of whom have been appointed by Donald Trump. And so it's really important to go out and vote so that you can actually get the kind of person that looks like you and I on the bench. And even on that Mitch McConnell today tried to do a nuclear option about trying to put the, sorry, tried to like, fast track, even faster the judges I heard today that he wanted to get rid of the rules. So there is no blue slip anymore, so it used to be that you had to have the top senators from each state agree into what was happening in terms of the appointments and it's not happening anymore that way because of the nuclear option that was invoked. And so that ends up just being a straight majority vote now in terms of who ends up getting

appointments. Scary. Hi. Hi. Is that Melissa? Natasha, like I'm a big fan of like an Andreate Lupa and I'm sorry, yeah, and gas, that nation and they said that you've been targeted in their last podcast that that you feel targeted as someone that's continuously reporting on what's going on. And it's like, I

just feel that the Democrats are just like, please give us the report, please give us the report. And it's like, I just feel that Democrats are just like, please give us the report, please give us the report. And it's like, when are we going to just be like Republicans? Like if this was happening with Republicans, they would be like on the state, on the outside of Nancy Pelosi's door, getting that report. And like, I just go back and forth about how you feel like if we're, are we too nice?

Are we leading to the good guys? Do we have to get on their level? Sorry, do we have to get into their level? Yeah, I don't know how I feel about it. I don't ever want to be on that level. But I think that there's a right way to thank you. I think there's a right way to do it. And I think sometimes the Democrats

are a need to grow a pair to be fair. But I think Adam Schiff has had just about enough of this fucking shift. Thank God. And the speech that he gave the other day was just absolutely outstanding. If you haven't seen it, it was amazing. But did you, I just wanted to, do you feel individually targeted? Because I see you every night and your reporting is excellent. And it's like, are they targeting her too? It's scary.

I was in Sarah Sanders' Mueller Madness bracket. Oh, snap. I'm jealous. We didn't make the bracket. WTN. I'm so much in the mail after after like that until that episode happened. Who cares? Right.

Like it's the MO, there's some administration. So. Hello. Hello again ladies. Hello. Quick question about cases that are transferred to DC courts. Can they be pardoned or are they have like the like how they can be with state? No, DC is federal and anything that goes down there can be pardoned So I don't could pardon any DC case. Absolutely trash

But you know what? You know what? Go ahead and pardon that sorry ass seven and a half year bullshit sentence for Maniford. I don't give a fuck because he is going to get some time from the state of New York. Watch he gets like, he gets like a year. I'm like, God damn it. Hello. Hello. Hello.

I might be a little out of the news cycle today, but I know that move on.org is considering a national day of action on April 5th, if William Bard does not present the Mueller port to the two Congress on the April 2nd deadline. Given today's news that William Barr has made something resembling a commitment to provide the report by mid-April, does it make sense to continue with the plan to hold that national day of protest on April 5th or to wait and see that. Well, if move on.org is keeping it on April 5th, even though we know that the report's

going to come out in mid-month, I see absolutely nothing wrong with taking to the streets on this bullshit memo that he put out. I would keep an eye on move on. They maybe they might push it back to April 20th, for 20 be a good day for a protest. Yeah. Yeah. I should look at us. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Hello, you say hello, you say it better. Hello. Crack my team there. Hi guys, first I just want to say thank you guys all of you for what you're doing in this. Thank you.

It's hard to stay sane in these times, but it's even though people are out there looking out. So, what I wanted to talk about, we used to have to talk about in the past the whole deal with the Cushner's dad, with the 666, Death Avenue, Satan, building or whatever. The devil, the devil. Chuck and the devil building.

The theories that QIA was involved in that and that they might be the secret company. I just want to get you guys this reaction is I don't know how up to the minute on the news you are. But it came out a few hours ago that in May 2017, Kushner flew to guitar and threatened the rolling family about not doing that deal with his father. And...

You know, Charles Kushner. Oh, gosh. Yeah, this just came out a few hours ago. It's a pop-up truck flew to Cutter and... In May of 17. Shout on their carpet. In May of 17, Jared Kushner apparently flew over there And yelled that we're not doing that deal with the father or his father

I was sure like 10 days later was one that thing about Saudi Arabia blockade and guitar happened and everyone was like Yo, don't back them and then Trump was like I'm a back them and everyone was like why? And then apparently when they decided to Fund that thing after all is when Trump flipped back to know we shouldn't blockade guitar. Yep. So beside the general reaction my question is how obvious is this stuff have to get before something happens? What's your name? Ryan. Ryan? Yes.

Ryan I haven't fucking asked you that question for a really long time. We're sitting over here, three comedians from San Diego who started a podcast and we know this shit, right? It's like, and you know, again, it might not be the counter-investment authority that's in this, you know, that's the secret subpoena battle company from country A, but it is. that's the secret subpoena battle company from country A, but it is. And, um, but you're right. Yeah, it's conjecture about that, right? But, uh, I, I honestly, it's so obvious and blatant to me.

And I didn't know, I just, now that I'm, I'm just, I didn't know that in May of 2017, Kushner went to yell at the cutters. I bet you Tom there. I can checkters I bet you Tom I can check I Bet you Tom. There's my favorite well They eat over can I put him on my leave? He definitely needs to be on that lane It got posted on Hill reporter like three or four hours ago. I don't know about collaboration. It's gonna come from The devil building wow That's incredible. That's just one more spoke in a very hearty wheel of shit we already kind of knew, right?

That's amazing. I wish I had an answer as to why more people aren't upset about that, but I think maybe when we finally find out who the company is the company is from country a maybe more folks will take notice But that's probably not going to be for a while since the grand jury is robust They're working robustly and on that and it's an ongoing investigation You got to remember it's not the company who wanted to keep themselves secret. It was Mueller so Could be here well. But thank you for your

question and thank you for that. He's a news. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work.

Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. just a quick question and this is for each of you. If you could do Fuck Kill Mary, Adam Schiff,

Andrewinc Babe, and James Comey. Wait, sorry, who's the last one? James Comey. All right, so I would marry Mick Babe, I would fuck you up on the shift. No. This is Mary, this is, what was this Mary fuck kill?

Is that what we're doing? Yeah. I tried to kill me. What is Cardi B-Doo? Okurr. I thought all she does. Yeah. Sferia, Democlator, now.

Okurr. Okurr. That's great. That's great. Okay, yeah, I would marry McBabe, sweetheart, I would fuck the combie. Who's left? What else is there? I mean, you have to kill Adam Schiff. I guess so, so be it, yes.

What are you gonna do? Jordan. Okay, I would, uh, I have to kill Komi because he knows too much. Oh, I don't know too much. I'm gonna marry, I'm gonna marry, I'm gonna marry McCabe. Definitely, he's, no, no, what? Mary, Mary Schiff, fuck McCabe and kill this recent iteration of Komi in the Webwood treason ship.

Whatever it is. That is. Like the Zen Komi? Yeah. Yeah. Car pass. That's what I would do. Nice ship.

Fuck me, Kate. You want to take a stab or do you want to stab? It has like NSA. It's like Komi. Yeah, that's not it. I cannot, unfortunately, my staff writing to that person. All right, thank you. Thank you so much.

Thank you, Taylor. All right, two more questions. Hi. Hi. Hi. So I'm a wee bit older. And when I was growing up, I never saw or heard women or women of diversity speak as you have you in lead political conversations. So happiness is having your voices first.

So. So. Happyness is being able to have the voice because of the path that you thank you. Thank you. Because it's hard going right now, as you all know. But I think for me, that keeps me energy and watching you on MSNBC, I can't even believe it. Like, I look at my partner and we're like, look, a young woman. And so, and you got to avoid it.

And talking. And only randomly does a man explain what she's saying. It's not all the time. So, can you talk just a minute about how one you're going to take this further because nearly she wrote is so important to all of us but as and you're in your in your commentary and you're writing how do you take this further to help us continue and not be not be sad every day. So thank you so much. Thank you. Well we're developing the daily beans. And that should be coming out soon. It's in development and we've

got a lot of wonderful women writing on it. I also, you know, when I chose Jordan Jolested to help me with this project, I really see I kind of see myself as a mentor. I give you a lot of bad fucking advice, but so I want to do that and I hope that at some point you guys do that too. I think mentoring is really important for people. And finally, I mean, I just, I wouldn't have this voice if I didn't have people who would listen to it.

So, a lot of this is you guys too. Yeah so thank you. Hello. Hi good evening. I'm gonna add myself to the course in terms of when your show comes out on Monday it's the best part of the week even though it's It's the best part of the week even though it's so nice. And I also want to add myself to the chorus of people who really do appreciate and actually want to hear female voices on these issues. And if it weren't for your show and gaslit nation, I would be lost. Absolutely lost. Absolutely lost. My question is, given the absolute plethora of bullshit that we have to follow every single day, I'm missing one particular turd, and that is,

what is going on, or who is owning, or is anyone even looking into the dots between Justice Kennedy and his son in Deutsche Bank? Yeah, that's a really good question. We've talked about it on our show and it's pretty, I don't understand why it's not talked about more. I would like to see if the Natalya is going to be.

Yeah, no, I agree. I think that really hasn't been examined enough. Actually, let's should be to remind, what are the dots again? It was like Kennedy, which is his son was involved with the bank. Don't you? Don't you? Right. Almost said, yeah, don't you want to learn? Don't you? Bank, yeah, yeah. He was the banker, I guess, or the organizer of the funds that Eric

Prince was involved in. Was that the relation there or who was Kennedy's son working for? Sounds like awesome. Don't you want alone? Wasn't he also organizing someone's money in particular? I thought that was the connection. Okay, so it was just Trump. Okay, yeah, so that's the connection essentially, right? Okay.

I just forgot the main dude. Yeah. So the idea being that Kennedy, like, oh, the president, this, right? Yeah. Yeah. What about the exchange in that video we saw recently, right? We're Kennedy and Trump are talking,

and it seems like Kennedy's like, no, track right? Yeah, yeah, what was that? I don't know about that. Wah wah wah wah wah wah. The wah wah wah wah. Wah wah wah wah wah. And then we got like 1,000 retweets of like, who reads lips?

Yeah, it's just messed up. And then you have the whole who paid off of Kavanaugh's debts. I'm interested to find that out. It's just a whole big shit show. I don't know who's looking into it right now. And I think the problem is, to your point, the plethora of bullshit. There's so much to investigate Important one. Yes, it's a big one, but it's like where do you prioritize it on the list of Russia stole democracy and

You know, it's it's a hard call to make, but it has to be made prioritizing resources I think we talk about that and or what McCabe does in his book that he wrote I'm all we talk about that in, or what McCabe does in his book that he wrote. Um, I'm all, we talk about that in McCabe's book. Um, yeah, totally. Um, anyway, guys, do you have any final thoughts? Are we doing an audience? Yeah, cool. Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. Are we doing an audience? Yeah, cool. Oh, thank you.

Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you so much. Seriously, this has been the coolest thing ever. This is the funniest thing ever, and the fact that we get to do this is incredible. And thank you so much to our panel guests. Hell, yes, thank you guys. Yeah, this is, yeah. Yeah, thank you.

Yeah, thank you. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, thank you.ito, thank you guys so much for actually caring about this story and thank you for doing this podcast, which has been so helpful and amazing for so many people. And yeah, just thank you guys, thank you guys for coming out. Okay, before we get out of here, we're going to do our favorite thing. And this is our first show except for the one we did in July of 2018. Yeah, a long time again.

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