Jack - The Dem Memo (Minisode)

Episode Date: February 28, 2018

Hey Muellerites! On our first minisode, we go in-depth about the Democratic Memo. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Kimberly Host of The Start Me Up Podcast. If you like your politics with some loose talk and salty language, you're going to love my show. I interview the coolest people like Mary Trump, Kathy Griffin, and DNC Chair Jamie Harrison. The Start Me Up Podcast has an easygoing, casual style and a strong emphasis on left-leaning politics. We also have Frank discussions about sex and more than a few spirited rants. Just visit patreon.com slash start me up or wherever you get your podcast and start listening today.
Starting point is 00:00:38 So to be clear Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I didn't have,
Starting point is 00:00:59 not have communications at the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for having nothing to do with Putin? I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So, it is political. You're a communist! No, Mr. Green.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Welcome to the first muller she wrote, Minisode. This is where you would normally hear an advertisement if you weren't a subscriber. But we are going to do these mini-sodes for our subscribers, except for this first one. We're giving it away for free. So, you know, I just want you to kind of get a taste of what it's going to be like. And then, if you want, you can head over to mullershearote.com, click on subscribe. For as little as $1 a month, you can get not just these mini-sodes that are only
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Starting point is 00:02:28 Good morning. It's morning somewhere. Get up with the crack of 5 to record the mini-sode. If I had a burrito it's morning. And Julie's so Johnson. How's it going? Pretty good. How's it been going since yesterday?
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah, it's good. A lot of stuff. Yeah, but it's only been hours. Yeah, yeah. So guys, I wanted to do a quick mini-sode because we write when we were recording the podcast, that demo came out. And I wanted to go into it a little bit more. So this little episode is dedicated just to the demo. So before I start getting into the memo and what the memo said, I wanted to go over a little bit and Jordan, you did this. I think two episodes ago, you went over what it takes to get a FISA warrant.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, the long process. And it's a pain in the ass. Oh yeah. But I wanted to tell you a little bit about what the FISC is, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. It was established by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in 1978 when I was four. So that's lovely. Now here's the interesting thing
Starting point is 00:03:27 about getting a FISA warrant in the FISA court. You went through that whole long process, which is, well, let's see, we'll go over that in a minute. Actually, I think I have it right here. You have to get all the evidence from all the field agents, teams, into an affidavit. Then you get a legal memorandum from a DOJ lawyer, then the FBI director certifies it, and then the whole package is approved by the Attorney
Starting point is 00:03:50 General or the Deputy Attorney General or the head of the NSA, and then one of 11 rotating judges that are on call 24-7 signs off on it. It's crazy. Okay. And the four that signed off in this one were all Republican appointments. Yeah, yeah. Actually, most of the FISA court is Republican. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And I'll get into that in a second here. But here's interesting. You can skip that whole process if you feel like it's an emergency. The AG or the deputy AG? Not me. I can just walk right in. No. The attorney general, the deputy attorney general, can file an emergency FISA warrant and
Starting point is 00:04:23 just get it. And he doesn't have to turn in any Pfizer application right then, but he does after, like he has to prove it retroactively. But you can get, you can just get an emergency one without any this whole process. So what's an example of an emergency? I don't have an example of, in the history, I think there's only been a couple.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I sounds like it, yeah, I think the same. But some interesting facts I got, since the inception of the FISA court or the FISC, we've had 33,942 FISA warrants granted and 12 denied. Wow. So now, the GOP has been quiet about this until now, when it happens to serve Trump. Exactly. Okay, so 33,941, okay, 33,942, hang on a minute.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm like, wait, I don't, well, I do understand. Yeah, or they're just going to try to undermine the whole process. They are. They're looking for anything. And here's the interesting thing. It has, the FISA court or the FISC has historically been criticized as being biased, but guess which way? Democratic.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Conservative. Toward Republicans. Oh. Because nearly all 11 judges are Republicans that are on the fence. That's right, yeah, yeah. And they've all been, because usually what happens is the chief justice appoints these guys, and that's Roberts,
Starting point is 00:05:49 and he's a conservative. Oh, yeah. So, it's been known, like Democrats have been screaming about the fisk for a couple of decades now, because they're saying it's just a Republican rubber stamp for them to spy on people. And now all of a sudden the Republicans are angry. Just like, now they're all of a sudden upset at Moller and Comey and like people who
Starting point is 00:06:09 did say, they've sucked for the last 20 years. Exactly. Like, dude, you just took their dick out of your mouth. How can you be mad? Got to stand in the still wet. So it's actually probably good for a more conservative person just in terms of people trusting the process. Because yeah, yeah, I mean, but then you still have this situation. So yeah, all of us is just new to America. I think with Trump. This is all it is.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's weird that we've never had to even think about this. The other things that judge must agree that the target is knowingly engaging in clandestine intel activities for a foreign power. Clandestine means secret. It's thought of white hoods. And those clandestine. Wow, that's really good for recruiters. What is my clandestine?
Starting point is 00:06:58 Will I be a grand wizard one day? Oh, it's so good. So the intel activities have to be with the foreign power and they have to violate US laws or this person has to knowingly aid or conspire with someone who is. It's interesting, too. So even if Carter Page wasn't meeting with Russians, the fact that he's just in the Trump campaign probably makes him eligible. Yeah. The evidence must meet a reasonable basis that is reached on facts It is not as high as standard as quote beyond a reasonable doubt Right, it's more common sense than anything and they have really broad authority to grant these
Starting point is 00:07:35 It's pretty much do I think we should yes, we should and when they grant renewals they have to be producing The Pfizer warrant has to have born fruit, right? Okay, it can't be like I got the Pfizer warrant has to have born fruit. Right. It can't be like, I've got the Pfizer warrant anything. You got anything? No, I haven't gotten anything. It's been 90 days, we haven't gotten anything. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:50 They got to have something like progress. You got to find some shit. You got to find some dirt. So these three renewals could have just gone alone on the dirt that they were finding from the first one. So the typical application is about 3,000 to 100 pages. So now I want to get into this demo really quick. And there's just a couple of things that the demo touches on.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I just kind of want to really make it a little succinct for everybody so you don't have to read the whole 10 pages. The FBI would be remiss if they did not survey all Carter page. That's one of the things that the demo wants you to know. We would be sucking at our job if we did not surveil Carter Page. Because of all of the goddamn shit he's doing. I mean, he might as well be Russian.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah, he had Russian ties before, like way before too. Since 2006, I think. And then the big thing where he got busted in 2013 with the spiring. And those two Russians are two of them are on the land, one of them went to jail. So maybe Carter Page sounds like a good idea. If I were a Fisk judge, I would grant it warrant just on that alone. What a coincidence there. All of Russia's in her circle. All had ridiculously strong trump tie. Interesting. Another thing, the dossier was only a small part of the FICE application. That's put forth in the demo where the NUNES memo said, it was the whole basis of the whole
Starting point is 00:09:09 thing. And MAKAB, NUNES asserts that MAKAB in testimony said that without the dossier, we wouldn't have got to FICE the warrant. And Adam Schiff says he never said that. And they refused to release the transcripts of the McCabe testimony. So I want those. Oh, yeah. The FBI never paid steel.
Starting point is 00:09:30 This was another thing. And neither did the DOJ. Everyone's like, you paid the FBI paid for it. The DOJ paid for it. They never paid steel. There was going to be a minute. Do you remember in the Fusion GPS documents and everything we've talked about when steel traveled to Italy
Starting point is 00:09:43 to talk to our FBI guys that he worked with during the FIFA soccer Problem. Well when he got there the FBI was gonna reimburse him for that trip, but they did not they never did Oh, okay, and now he's been paid in the past by the FBI Working with us, but nothing to do with the Russian investigation. Got it. So it's not weird to pay him One, two, we didn't pay them. Got it, okay. Neither of them. Another quote in here that I thought it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Quote, by September 2016, when Steele's dossier reached FBI headquarters, the FBI had already opened sub-inquiries into blank individuals. That's a number that's redacted. They had already opened. FBI already opened inquiries into blank individuals linked to the Trump campaign. And then there's a redacted, they had already opened. FBI already opened inquiries into blank individuals linked to the Trump campaign. And then there's a redacted list of it. Looks like it could contain five to eight names.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Wow. And then at the end, it says, and Carter Page. Ha ha ha. Yeah. The FBI card number. And it says the FBI would have continued these inquiries even if it had never received the dossier. So it was, the FBI was already looking into page. And five to eight
Starting point is 00:10:48 other people associated with the Trump campaign. And that's redacted magically. Interesting. Four Fisk judges, the four that approved, because they had four, one initial FISA app, and then three renewals, four judges. All different judges, two of them were from Bush, one of them was from GW and one of them was Reagan, a point of time frame. Then there's a whole paragraph, quote, in subsequential renewals, DOJ provided additional information obtained through multiple independent sources that corroborated steals dossier, unquote, and then the whole paragraph is redacted.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Oh snap. So there's, let's see here, there's a couple of words that are left open, page, Moscow, Russian officials. It's like hashtags. And it's three big bullet points of a couple of sentences each that apparently are all information that corroborate that the FBI has that are independent sources that corroborate steals dossier. So of course the Republicans redacted this because it shows that the dossier isn't, it's
Starting point is 00:11:59 legit. It's been corroborated by independent sources, but they don't list them here. The FISA warrant resulted in valuable intel, as I said. And at all that intel that they put in there, another paragraph, it said, this FISA warrant resulted in valuable intel, which you must have to get a renewal. Here are all the valuable intel. It's all redacted. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And then another thing you need to know is the court was told that steel was doing op-o research against Donald Trump. Could the redactions just be because of it being an ongoing investigation? Could be. It could be because they're just doing it. Yeah, he's too known that D'Ascier is corroborated by independent resources because that wrecks one of his
Starting point is 00:12:41 giant fake objections. Yeah, absolutely. Another thing to know is news articles, the news articles that were used in the FICE application, the Yahoo article and stuff, they were not to corroborate the steel dossier. This other intel was that was gathered by the FBI, but the Republican memo said,
Starting point is 00:12:59 you used Yahoo news stories to corroborate the dossier. No, the Yahoo articles were used to inform the court that Carter Page publicly lied about who going to Moscow. That's it. And it's very common to have news articles in FISA. They just try to reach for anything. Applications.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Another thing they brought up is that or guy, OHR. But that's irrelevant because while he's a friend of steel and his wife worked for Fusion GPS, or didn't tell the FBI about what steel shared with him until November, which is after the election, and like a month after the court approved the first Pfizer warrant. So fuck off. And then also the struck-and-page texts are irrelevant to the allegations of bias in the Pfizer app because neither of them had anything to do with the application in any way or any of the investigations that went into the app. The thing. Okay, the White House response was astounding. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, your wonderful friend, says, quote, this politically driven document fails to answer serious concerns raised
Starting point is 00:14:01 by the majority's memorandum, the Nuneunes memo, about the use of partisan opposition research from one candidate loaded with uncorroborated allegations as a basis to ask a court for approval of the surveillance of a former associate of another candidate at the height of the presidential campaign. So let's pick apart that bullshit. Yes. For a minute. It's a mouthful. First of all, politically driven document, whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It's a response to your politically direct, uh, document. Exactly. So eat shit and die. Let's let her live. It says it fails to answer concerns raised by the new NAS memo about the use of partisan opposition research from one candidate. No, it doesn't. by the new NAS memo about the use of partisan opposition research from one candidate. No, it doesn't. The, it's put in a footnote, the footnote is copied,
Starting point is 00:14:50 from the FICE application is copied and pasted into the demo memo and it says explicitly that the steel, steel doesn't know who's paying for the research. And, but what we do know is that he, it is, it is someone who's working in opposition to Donald Trump. That's where this research is coming from. It's political opposition research for somebody who's trying to discredit the Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:15:13 campaign. And that's pretty clear to me. Yeah, that'd be obvious. So that sentence is wrong. It's loaded with uncorroborated allegations. No, it's not, because corroboration is as redacted The allegations are there you redacted the corroborating Evidence or do they do you know if they said that they redacted it because it was fall evidence?
Starting point is 00:15:37 No, they did they the White House is saying everything that was redacted is because it it's bad for national security Okay, I heard sources and practices or whatever. Let's see what's next. As a basis to assacquart, to approve surveillance of a former associate of another candidate, okay, we'll just debunk that whole sentence. And then she goes on further to say, while the Democrats memo attempts to undercut the president politically, the president supported its release in the interest of transparency.
Starting point is 00:16:09 But it's really those big black redaction boxes are not very transparent. Exactly. And it's not aimed to undercut the president politically. It's aimed to undercut the newness memo. That's what it's aimed to do. Which was aimed to undercut the Mueller investigation department of justice in FBI. So go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And then finally she wraps up with, as the president has long stated, neither he nor this campaign ever colluded with a foreign power during the 2016 election. And nothing in today's memo counters that fact. The Dems weren't trying to write the memo to counter the fact that there was conspiracy between Russia and Trump. That's like saying, oh, and by the way, there's nothing in this memo that says my thighs are fat.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Thank you. Like, that's not what this is about. Right. Making it about you. But for now on every memo at work, I'm gonna say that that's what it's. Oh, I love it. There's nothing in this that says my thighs are fat. I'm still good.
Starting point is 00:17:05 You're promoted. So, Julie said, I want to get you, I want to get your response, Jordan, I want to get you, Julie said because I know Julie. So you're going to talk about, like, of course, Trump had a Twitter fitter. Oh, yeah. And I know you wanted to talk about Nunez was on stage at the CPAC. What weird timing. And you want to talk a little bit about he how he responded so give
Starting point is 00:17:26 me what do you guys want to do first the tweet let's get those tweets out of the way they're fun yeah yeah let's read the tweets so yesterday Trump did have a nice little Twitter storm and he had a couple of tweets where he responded to the Democratic memo one saying the Democratic memo response on government surveillance abuse abuses is a total political and legal bust. Just confirms all of the terrible things that were done. So illegal in all caps, right? Oh, you know it.
Starting point is 00:17:55 He released it. He didn't even remember I bet. He's crazy. But he goes on to say, dim memo, FBI did not disclose who the clients were, the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Wow. So that's him by the way. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yes, they did. Exactly. They did in a giant footnote that specifically spelled that out. Yes. I don't know if they named Hillary Clinton by name because there were multiple people funding the dossier that were Republican and Democrat, but the thing they had in common was that they were trying to discredit Donald Trump. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And that political bias note is in the fucking fight application. Yes. So, oh, and by the way, Nunez never read the entire fight application. Wow. So, he's sitting here making all these allegations, and then somebody who read the thing comes out and copies and pastes it from the thing, they're like, no, it's you're wrong. I don't like the way your letters feel. That's just how they roll. Oh, and then he starts of course quoting Fox News. So this is a quote from that. Russians had no compromising info on Donald Trump. He
Starting point is 00:19:01 says, of course not because there is none. And never was. This whole witch hunt is an illegal disgrace, and Obama did nothing about Russia. And nothing. It's like, okay, right off the top. And Obama did nothing about Russia. I still love it. Aside from the sanctions that Trump has yet to enforce.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Well, no, Obama sanctions went into effect. Annie did kick 35 guys out of the country that were Russians. Annie slapped individual sanctions on the effect list. Pretty hard on some people. Annie signed the Magnetski Act. But, you know, nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Fucking guy. Big old nothing burger. Totally kissing his ass. He goes on a quote, Foxomore. He says, Congressman Schiff omitted and disordered facts. So what else is new? Period. He is a total phony.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Like a phony person, like he's a robot. He's a real big phony. Yeah. I just, it's like I'm back in fifth grade. Like this guy is 73, 71, I forget. But it's just, I feel like an adult when I read his tweets and I know I'm not really an adult like I just I know in my heart I'm not but he makes me feel real real mature But yeah, just wrapping it up his last tweet was
Starting point is 00:20:12 And this actually was from his Fox interview. He did I believe some time yesterday after the first few tweets So he's just oh with judge Janine exactly Yeah, she was drunk. Oh, they they're not happy. I mean of course, the supporters are but yeah, apparently that judges like I don't we can talk about her all day But he says President at Rodano Trump on dim fee semi-mill hang on. Oh, this is Trump's quote from that interview a lot of bad things happen on the other side Not on this side, but the other side and somebody should look into what they say Oh, sorry, and somebody should look into what they say. Oh, sorry. And somebody should look into what they did. Not damn it, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It's hard to read what he says because it's so dumb. Yeah, it's Chandler like, wait, the challenge. Wait, wait, wait, wait, go back. And I have to read it again. Not because it's complex or because I'm reading it in Prometheus Rising or a brief history of the universe. And I need to reread that fucking, hawking shit over and over again to get it.
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's because it's so dumb. I feel you're in that too. It's stupid. And somebody should look into it because what they did was really fraudulent. So that's basically his whole take. Is that it's not me, it's them, very legal. I'm not something about Mexicans.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I don't know, I feel like. He's losing it. I mean, Mueller is sending out all of these indictments and then what can he do? You know, Trump is just his hand. Wait. I think his tweets are so elementary because he's just appealing to his base.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And he is probably advised to talk like a fucking idiot. So he doesn't come off too pretentious and he can do it. I don't know. I don't know. I think he can give too much credit. Yeah, Jordan, I think he just does talk like an idiot. And that just happens to appeal to his base. Yeah Jordan I think he just does talk like an idiot and that just happens to appeal to his baby. Yeah sorry if you're a listener in a drop voter.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah I know he does have smart people that listen to him so I wouldn't want to offend them. True true. Wait who? My uncle man. Oh my uncle's a smart man. That's the only one I know though. They like his style. So one of his. We've got one. Yeah one smart person. He's an attorney. He does divorce law. Oh No wonder he likes Trump. Yeah No, no, it's okay. It's okay. I bet he's just trying. I bet he's being nice to Trump so you can see if he can get the Melania Trump Oh my gosh. Oh, yeah, I see a genius. Yeah, it's a long con but he moved to Hawaii as a very undercover operation Just we'll quit the podcast because you're rich now.
Starting point is 00:22:33 All right, so Jordan, what do you have for us about the about good old Nunez on the CPACs day? Yeah, so just want to take you all into the scene here. It was that CPAC stands for conservative political action conference and it happened at the National Harbor. It says Habbert, but I think that is a typo. Okay. But it was in Maryland and it happened last night. And he is in the middle of speaking, and then he announces that, he announces that the shift memo was released. And at the end of this nearly 30 minute Q&A session
Starting point is 00:23:02 that he was having was someone named Matt Schlapp, who is chairman, chairmanlapp, who's chairman, chairman, yeah, that's name. Chairman of what you do when you jerk off. Oh yeah! Schlappin' away. Schlappin' away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Give it the whole Matt Schlapp. Oh my God. Also a wrestling move. But he's chairman of the American Conservative Union and they're the ones that put it on. But after this Q&A session and after he releases that the opposing memo had come out, he receives the organization's Defender of Freedom Award. Oh, which organization? The Schlapp, the Matt Schlapp, the American Conservative Union. Oh, they shouldn't even, the American conservative union.
Starting point is 00:23:45 They shouldn't even be allowed to have union names. I don't think they were in the unions. I wonder if there's do's and stuff, and if they protect them from having a war too far. I thought they burst into flames if they said they were union. Just right on the spot. And so yes, he's awarded the Defender of Freedom Award for his quote unquote unwavering valor and often lonely pursuit of truth on behalf of the American people.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Well, it sounds nice. And lonely, which is why he has to match lap on all the time. There you go. Yeah. The Defender of the Galaxy, it just sounds like the last starfighter to me. Yeah, and and also apparently Trump had given his speech at the CPAC on Friday. So this is already in twindling audience.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Oh my God. And then he just asked us sadly to get this news. I mean, I guess he doesn't give a fuck. But but before receiving the award, Nunez had told the crowd that quote unquote, the American people deserve to know the truth and the House Intelligence Committee will continue to plot through our work with or without the support of the media and will get the facts. They really think they're heroes, don't they?
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yeah, that's just the narrative. They're going to keep saying. But then ironically, of course, Adam Schiff essentially says the exact same thing that they're just going to keep charging on in that intelligence committee and get to the facts. And the big thing, I think, to take away from his response was, Nunez was not attacking any of the points that were actually laid out in the memo. He just called, he was calling for further deeper wider investigation of the FBI. Great.
Starting point is 00:25:25 The intelligence community. Great. Exactly. Because I think, you know, 33,894 approvals in 17 or 12 denials, maybe we could use an IG investigation to see if this really is a rubber stamp by 11 Republican judges. As a Democrat, that kind of concerns me. But I really don't think there was bias in this case. I'm sorry, it's me. But I really don't think there was bias in this case.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I'm not convinced. And I think it would have been in favor of Trump. Had there been any. Yeah, if anything. So what? Yeah. Like, I'm just, I'm like, I tweeted it at shift. I know you listen, shift.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I know you're listening. I said, go and do an IG investigation. Do a full IG investigation into the FISA warrant process. And let's get an inspector general report on it because the FBI has their own IG. I don't think the, I don't know if the FISK has its own IG. It's probably under the DOJ IG. But do one, because the IG is what determines
Starting point is 00:26:23 if there's enough criminal activity going on to do a full investigation with the FBI and law enforcement. And sometimes the IG can find enough criminality to appoint a special counsel, which is what happened in this case. Yeah. So this is a special counsel's flip around.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So if you really want to do this, go for it IG. And let's investigate it. And I really, I'm 100% confident that anything they come back with will say that this feyse warrant was obtained totally fine. Right. I wonder if that's just, aside from the benefits they get of, you know, just disseminating fear and distrust in our nationals. The top two points are so valuable. Yeah, they also will just, if it does turn into an actual investigation by an IG, then they'll get time, more time. And that's more time to try to get more out.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And we'll see, but see, here's the thing. Since Mueller has been releasing 9 million felony charges, I think it's 89 felony charges on 17 people and three businesses. Wow. Uh, I think his job is a lot safer than it was before those indictments came out. Oh yeah. Particularly the Russians won.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And especially since one of the Russians in his indictment was in charge of the mercenary group of Russians that attacked US troops in Syria this month. Yeah, that is crazy. Why hasn't Trump said anything about that? Why are we not denouncing Russia? Why are we not putting sanctions down? Right.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I know why, but that's a really rhetorical question. Yeah, yeah. I feel you know, it's why it's water wet, you know? Come on. He did come out too when all of the tear gassing was happening or the chemical weapons, the chemical warfare, and just bond them. He bond them. He came out then, so it's like, where's he at now? Yeah, good point. Yeah, no, it's no confidence. Now, even if those 13 Russians had nothing to do with the, if they weren't put in play by the Trump campaign, maybe they did it completely on their own accord.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Right, but it still happens. You know, that's still, it shows Russian meddling. It shows that the Mueller investigation has value and it shows that Rod Rosenstein has value. So why won't Trump at least say that if he's innocent, right? He did tweet one thing at the very beginning. There's very first tweet. One of his first tweets are a little rational and then they go on-hand. Yeah, that's the all the time I was taking him.
Starting point is 00:28:47 His first tweet was said, so Russia meddled. But it was 2014, way before I got here, innocent by, which is a pretty relatively calm tweet. But he did admit, finally, after a year, over a year that Russia did meddle in the election. Wow. And then he redacted it, is that what happened? He did. No, he didn't redacted it, is that what happened? He did.
Starting point is 00:29:05 No, he didn't redact, he just went on a weird spin after that. Like, nope, to hoax, I hate, I have nothing to do. Yeah, yeah. No collusion. Over and over. So anyway, guys, those have been our first mini-sode. I feel good about it. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:31:04 In the chaotic spectacle we've already seen, shows us just how far they will go to seize power, dismantle our government, and take away our freedoms. So, the official podcast of the persistence is back with season four. There's so much more important work ahead of us to fight for equity, justice, and our very democracy itself. We'll take you behind the lines and inside the rooms where it happens with strategy and inspiration from progressive change makers all over the country.
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