Jack - The House Always Wins (feat. Stephanie Miller)

Episode Date: August 25, 2019

Join us today as we cover all the Mueller news including and update on Flynn, trumps tax returns and financial documents, Junior lied to congress (again), the new press secretary, dancing with the stars, and the Devil’s Mermaid.

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Best Fiends updates the game monthly with new levels and events so it never gets old. Hi, I'm Scott Dworkin from the Democratic Coalition and you're listening to Mola Sheebrook. So to be clear, Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time, a true,

and that campaign, and I didn't have, and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for having nothing to do with Putin? I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So, it is political. You're a Communist!

No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Hello and welcome to Mueller, she wrote, I'm your host A.G. and with me today is Jelisa Johnson. Hello. But Jordan Coburn woke up voiceless today. She lost her voice. So she'll be with us here in spirit and we wish you a speedy recovery.

She is one of the hardest work and grinders in comedy, so I could see how her voice would probably give out every now and again. So we wish her well, we wish her the best. Hopefully we'll see her tomorrow. We do have a great show for you today. Joining us for the interview is Steph Miller from the sexy liberal tour and the Stephanie Miller show on Sirius XM 127 and she'll also be joining us for our live show at the independent theater in San Francisco this weekend, Friday, August 30th. And Adam Savage from Mythbusters is going to be there too, so it's going to be awesome. Nice. And the meet and greet the night of the show is sold out, but we've added a meet and greet for Thursday, August 29th at 5 p.m. and there are a few tickets left for that. We have a link to those tickets

in our pinned tweet at Muller She Wrote. So it's going to be fun. I'm looking forward to it. Mm-hmm, me too. San Francisco is you haven't been, right? You know what? Actually, I was high when I said I hadn't been. I remember now, but I was only briefly there. I did a trifecta of touring. I was in the bay. So I went to San Francisco, Oakland, and Berkeley. Oh, cool. Did you show? It was like, no, actually this was, I didn't open my got there, but it was mostly just visiting a friend who was in school at Berkeley. So it was really quick. I did like a weekend,

but I hit all the spot. So it wasn't like long enough to actually take in the sand fran air, you know, really excited for this trip because we'll have more time. Yeah we definitely will and it's gonna be a lot of fun. I think we get to do a shop tour and I'm just really excited. I think Saturday night I'm gonna go see a Star Trek drag show which is gonna be fun and then I know we're going to be seeing Hamilton too while we're there. Thanks to the Hamilton folks. So I am excited as well. And I haven't been since I was 12. So we went on a whale watching tour when I was a Girl Scout or something. It was really fun. But it's been a while. Also, the fantasy

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Was it good? Yeah, it was good. I got this new gig. It gets to teach podcasting at a local media center. So I'll be doing that in the fall. I'm stoked. I don't feel old enough, but I guess legally I am. But this is cool though.

It's a nice little fun way to, you know. Well, you're definitely an expert, so I don't see why. I don't see why ages do some, it makes me nervous. I just feel like yeah, a lot of the kids are teenagers, so I'm just like, this will be a fun little experiment, like just saying how people look to me as a teacher. I feel like I do have things to offer, but it's also just gonna be like so trippy.

Well, congratulations, that's awesome. Thank you, thank you. I need, I'm looking forward to see how that goes. I appreciate it. I was thinking about doing something similar, you know, like a business part of it, but that's that's so rad. Yeah, that's a good idea. And I think I think that you'd be excellent at that because you're just really good at explaining things. So thank you. I think you'd be good at it. All right guys, let's kick off the show with my favorite segment, Corrections. Oh, I made a mistake. Alright first, remember the guy who drove into the protesters and then was taken put on administrative

leave and then they were blocking like an immigration center and he had to resign. He still has been charged which I think is weird because I feel like that's a vehicular attempted manslaughter but what else. Anyway he wasn't at the border. I thought he was at the border. He was he's a Connecticut resident and the event took place in Rhode Island. So he's just a regular dude. Well I mean it was a it was a detention center but it wasn't at the border. Right and he's just a regular dude? Well, I mean, it was a it was a detention center, but it wasn't at the border. Right. And he wasn't a border patrol agent. I guess I got oh he was. Yeah. Oh, still you're not a border patrol agent, but a person who worked at the I maybe for immigration custom. Okay. BPD something. Yeah, Department of Homeland Security. Yeah, bad either way,

but definitely in a position of, you know, authority there. Yeah, absolutely. And I just, I think the R only mistake was it was in Rhode Island and not at the border. And that's weird that they have these detention centers everywhere. Yeah. Like what? That's just, I don't know. I guess the property is just available at random places. Yeah.

It got to be it. And let's see. Our other correction here, the militant left wing group, Jordan mentioned during the daily beans is called the Weathermen, weather underground, and it comes from the Bob Dylan song, Subterranean homesick blues. So we were trying to figure out which Bob Dylan song mentioned weathermen, and that's it.

You don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. So guys, those are our only corrections this week. So thank you for sending them. If you have surprised because you know I'm not a lawyer and we talk about legal stuff all the time and our only corrections are about Bob Dylan and this guy in Rhode Island. But cool, if you have any corrections, head to mullershearope.com. Click on contact, select corrections, and then send us our compliment sandwich. We'll get it right eventually. That's our

motto here. All right, we have a lot of news to get to, so let's jump in with just the facts. All right, so our one Democrat who's in trouble, Greg Craig, his trial began this week. He's had some ups and downs first. Craig's lawyers began with an objection to the jury's selection secrecy and forced the court to select a whole new jury. And then once the trial began, Judge Jackson, who was also the judge in Rick Gates and Roger Stone's cases laid into Greg's attorneys for ignoring her orders not to bring up certain topics during cross examination, especially during the cross examination of Rick Gates. And in case you missed it, Greg Craig is a Democratic lobbyist who assisted Manafort

Gates and Vanders Wann in their report justifying the jailing of Victor Yanakova, which is opponent Yulia Temeschenko. It was drafted by the Scad and Arps law firm. And Craig's defense is that he didn't really play that much of a role, but he was at the dinners, had some drinks. But Rick Gates testified, he played a major role, including the seeding of the report with the New York Times. And seeding is the term that they use for, you know, basically planting the report into our media so that it gets, you know, makes the rounds. So we'll see how credible the jury thinks

Rick Gates is considering, you remember the jury in the Manafort trial didn't really take a shine to Rick Gates at all. They said he was not a very credible witness. And it went as expected, Craig's lawyers tried to destroy Gates' credibility by saying, you know, he's a criminal in a liar, he stole from Manafort and cheated on his wife. And Gates also admitted he was cooperating to get a letter prison sentence, and that he won't be

prosecuted for other crimes he committed and he committed many. But he was sure to remind the jury that if he lies at all during this trial, his cooperation agreement would be ripped up and he would be on the hook for not only lying But all the other crimes he committed that he was forgiven for by his cooperation. So interestingly Gates testified that there were more DC lobbyists working on behalf of the Ukraine and as you know, we've been saying The Democrat Tony Podesta and Republican Vyn Weber from the Podesta group and the Mercury group respectively the Podesta and Republican Venn Weber from the Podesta group and the Mercury group, respectively, were not charged in this case, but Gates said they participated all the same, in drafting the Tamashenko report and seeding it.

And I was kind of chuckling when Josh Gerstin of Politico said on Mato, I don't know if you saw it, Julie said, this past week, that people in the courtroom were surprised by this revelation. But if you're a Moeshi wrote listener, you've been very familiar with those names. You've been a member in Tony Podesta. So despite Rick Gates' lack of credibility, I think Craig will be found guilty on one count, or his one count that he's charged with, the other count was dropped, of lying about his involvement in

lobbying on behalf of foreign government, mainly because the prosecution in this case, like the Manafort case, is certainly not relying solely on Gates' testimony. And Judge Jackson sort of scolded the defense attorneys who attempted to discredit Gates while he was on the stand, so puts some beans on it. And based on Judge Jackson's behavior, you can also put some beans on Gates getting a pretty light sentence from her because it appeared she was really impressed with his level of remorse and cooperation during his testimony.

Exactly. And I was surprised when Manafort got a light sentence. I mean, it was a different judge, but just seeing how they respond to someone like him, of course, someone like Gates will get off pretty like. Because he's not as as holy as they come. Yeah, I mean, you can even remember, too, Judge Ellis was the judge in the Manafort case.

Yeah. He was really upset, too. So, I mean, with Flynn, I mean, there's just so many, it's a small pool of judges. I'm noticing that we're not with Flynn. That was Sullivan, but with Maniford, he seemed to like be upset with the government with the Mueller, definitely the Mueller part of it. And so for sure, that could have, you know, added to the, to the light sense that Maniford got. I think America would be more engaged with the Mueller investigation. If all these judges were like American idol judges

Or like there was some kind of reality show where they would have Flynn and Maniford and Gates get on the stage And they would all have their own style of like this is treasonous and then someone else is like a little it's a no-for-me dog Exactly, yeah I like you, but you know I'm I like to get zero jail. That's enough for me. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I'm channeling Paula, but I like your Randy. That's pretty good. Randy. Oh, remember Paula. Oh, I like Paul. I did too, but man, she was an interesting lady. I was a huge fan of hers in the 80s. That's hard not to love her. Let's see. What else is going on? We learned last week from Jordan that the devil's mermaid Maria Bhutna is back in the news. When it was reported, she dated the CEO of Overstock.com, Patrick Bern,

who has turned out to be quite a loony bird. But this week, the story got weird. This past Thursday, Bern announced in a bizarre letter to shareholders that he would resign as CEO, but not before he released an even weirder statement saying his involvement with Bhutan was part of a deep-state men-in-black, Russia-linked political espionage campaign.

Coming this fall. Against Clinton and Trump and others, like I think Ted Cruz and somebody else Yeah, it's a movie plot. So Bernd decided to get totally that his involvement in the matter would negatively impact his business relationships And that's what led him to resign and in an interview with Fox News correspondent Sarah Carter last month Bernd said he'd been approached by Bhutan at Freedom Fest. Pupu, yeah, in 2015. And came to believe she might be a Russian spy. I don't know what tipped him off. Bhutan is currently serving in 18 month prison sentence for conspiring to act as a foreign

agent for her role in infiltrating the NRA on behalf of Trump in the 2016 election. And Bern says he reached out to the FBI and was told to carry on with the relay, rekindle the relationship, and then keep reporting back to us. Nice. And he ended up being romantically involved with her for over three years, even even though when he met her, she was dating Paul Erickson. He's like at first it was just a gig, but then I fell for you. Yeah, beauty and the beast.

And you remember too that when the Mueller team was trying to say, she peddled sex to try to infiltrate all these different places and they defied that and said no, her and Erickson were in love. It was a real relationship. Yeah, look at this karaoke video. Yeah. Can't see there's nothing in love.

And now we have this, oh yeah, no, I dated her too. I got an overstock guy. Maybe she's Polly. That's very 2019 of her. It could be and that's totally rad but But I doubt it Another Trump guy who has been charged to Erickson. He's been charged with crimes of his own unrelated to the Mueller probe Burn told Fox News he believed he was being used by the FBI in a soft coup

Oh a soft coup as opposed to a hard coup. Okay, sounds like like a smooth jazz. Yeah, interesting I like that. I like that direction. I took it a more flaccid way, but I appreciate yours. Much more wholesome. Smooth jazz. Oh, no. Flaccid coup. That's great. Oh my gosh. Anyway, yeah, coup. They are all about the coups. But overstock investors didn't get scared until two weeks later. When he claimed to have turned over evidence in a conspiracy involving Trump and Clinton, saying, I think we're about to see the biggest scandal in US history. Everything you know about Russia and Clinton is a lie. It was all political espionage, and I think Barr has gotten to the bottom of it.

He said, there's a deep state like a submarine lurking just beneath the waves at Periscope Depth, watching our shipping lanes and nuclear ice breaker named USS Bill Barr has snuck up on them and is about to ram them at midship. This is like a novel. I know it's a best seller. He's heaving manhood. You know, it's one of those. The cloud was looming and needed to be lifted. Lift the cloud bill bar. So if someone could also please draw me bill bar as a submarine. Yeah, the US says bill bar. That's hilarious. Raming something image ship. Specifically has to be ramming. Yeah.

Yeah. Fantastic. Nice. So burn followed up with a statement saying in July 2018, I put the pieces together three years later. I immediately came forward to a congressman and a senior military officer and to the DOJ this April and upon my Omaha rabbi reminding me of my duty as a citizen this last June to a small set of journalists this summer, I have fulfilled those citizenship obligations to which my rabbi reminded me, I will speak no more on the subject. Instead, having lived in places lacking rule of law and having witnessed the consequences of its absence. I plan on sitting back and watching the US Department of Justice reestablish the rule of law in our country.

As it turns out, the Omaha rabbi is a billionaire investor, Warren Buffett. Oh, that's hilarious. And then Friday, two top former FBI officials denied Burns claimed that the FBI directed him to, you know, bone boot bootenah, which he claimed in a weird 30-minute CNN video this past Thursday in an interview with Cuomo. That's the day he resigned. He also accused top Obama officials, including Comey of approving the FBI's request that he continued to date Bhutanah. And Comey said this claim was ridiculous, and the FBI doesn't work that way. He's seen too many movies.

McCabe says he's never heard of Bern until he revealed his relationship with Boot 9. He says he's totally possible. He volunteered information about Boot 9 to the FBI, but the claim that agents would have told him to engage in a romantic relationship with a suspected Russian intelligent agent is not how the FBI works. It's simply not the sort of thing the FBI does. Right. I totally agree with the FBI,

but you know what's sad is that Trump has put the country at a place, or maybe we were already there, but we want this drama. We want the romance, we want the crazy plot, you know, the forbid and love. People are gonna gravitate towards that because it makes a good story

as opposed to the boring truth, which is no, that's not how the FBI fucking works. Stop watching Netflix so much. Go back and read up on the Hush Money payments with one stars, if that's not how the FBI fucking works. Stop watching Netflix so much. Go back and read up on the Hush Money payments with one stars, if that's what you're saying. But it's sad, the country will probably latch onto these crazy things because people just think crazy is more convincing for some reason,

more entertaining, therefore more convincing. It's more entertaining, that's for sure. And all this aside, a US official has confirmed that Byrne did meet with Department of Justice officials earlier this year and told them about Bhutan and the Department of Justice found aspects of his story to be believable because he did share operational details that were not widely known. And he said some pretty amazing things during the CNN interview including how he grew concerned when Bhutan mentioned her relationship with Torschen, a Kremlin-linked banker who told her to build inroads with the high ups in the GOP. And Bern then said he kept trying to tell the FBI.

I kept going to the FBI and they ignored him until July of 2016 when he says they approached him again and said, boy, you sure were right about Russia. Can you keep dating that butina and tell us what she says? And Asha Rangapa, so there's no way of Komean Mkabe saying, it makes sense that the FBI might have said, you know, keep in contact and let us know what happens. Oh, really? And now we have Asher Angaba saying that the elements of Burns claims about the FBI encouraging his efforts to build a relationship with Bhutan, do line up with how the Bureau would

run a counterintelligence investigation, but she says the romantic part is not a thing the FBI does. Oh, they're like, don't seduce or just befriend or do. Yeah, just maintain a relationship with her. Okay, so it's not even that crazy. No. And I do want to say maybe most people wouldn't believe the crazy parts just enough people like that 30%. It's the, because you know, they can do that. They can say, you know, hey, great, thanks for the intel. Keep, if you keep talking to her, you have

a maintain a relationship with her. Let us know what she says, but they wouldn't encourage her to bone her. Right. Right. Be romantically involved because there's a bunch of legal liability involved. I imagine. The FBI just doesn't operate that way, but Seth Abramson pointed out the most significant thing Burns said during a CNN interview, which is that Don Jr. met secretly with Kremlin agents for an hour during the 2015 NRA conference in Tennessee, which means he lied to Congress. And this is something we did not know until now. And presumably if Andy McCabe had never heard about him or heard about this he didn't know about the FBI

didn't know about it either and that means Mueller might not have been informed about this. So back in 2015 if you remember Demetri Simes and this is all in volume one of the Mueller report helped Torschen and Bootnig get access to top federal banking officials because they wanted to share information on the ZIF brothers and Clinton. That was the dirt that was discussed by Vesel Nettskaya in the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting. So, Byrne confirmed that Byrne said she had close ties to four of the top seven oligarchs in Russia,

and she was in a position to get a meeting face to face between Byrne and Byrne. And we also know that Junior told Congress he met Torshin just randomly at that rally in Tennessee, but Abramson has long believed and us too that junior might have lied about that. And Bern's story of true confirms that junior did meet with Russian operatives in 2015, about 30 days before Trump announced his candidacy during the NRA rally at an off-site location, and that sanctions were discussed under the guise of peace.

So I'm still researching this, and what I do know is if Mueller had this information, it was not mentioned in the Mueller report, which means if he knew, he likely handed that off to the FBI as their broader counterintelligence investigation, but this could be brand new information. But, you know, as we know, Mueller's investigation was really limited in scope, so it might not be there at all. Totally. Yeah, your pizza video said it all. Truly though, this counterintelligent stuff must have trumped the most spooked because he immediately came out with don't trust the FBI,

no matter what they say, and people were like, what's he been going on? Like they weren't even caught up on the Mueller report, yet let alone like his beef with the FBI, but I think it's because they have the bulk of this. Yeah, they had so much to when Mueller took over the investigation, if you remember, it was reported

publicly that Mueller received thousands of 302s and information that the FBI under McCabe and with Peter Struck were already investigating. Yeah, so if it wasn't all about what they started with, they might have led them to something else that spooking Trump. Yeah, but they could have been, and you know, struck could have been investigating this particular burn boot nothing way before we thought. Good point. But that McCabe hadn't heard of it

because I feel like McCabe would have said, I can't comment on that, rather than I've never heard of him. Exactly. But he was also acting director, deputy director during those times. Pretty high up. Yeah, particularly back then,

deputy director, maybe that stuff doesn't reach all the way up It would stop at the Peter Struggle level. Totally. I can believe that. Yeah, but yeah, just that he'd never heard of him before It's very like the semantics too. You could say that he may have heard of the case But not of that particular person. You know, it's tricky. So true plus there's nine million people involved in this totally I mean just last week we forgot that it cost it even even resigned. That's right, so I never forget. It's hard to keep track of sometimes, but anyway, guys, we will be right back after this quick word. Hey, this is Aji from Molar Shiro and I want to tell you about a great offer from Skillshare.

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You'll be glad you did. So, Jalisa, it looks like Trump is distancing himself from Tom Barrick. And I'm going to talk about that a little bit later in hot notes. This is Jordan's joint. Usually she talks about, she's had him on the joint. Yeah. She's had him as it was like that's her number one draft pick like every week. And he was the guy who got Maniford the job with Trump. And he's also one of the top guys in the inaugural, which is under 800 investigations.

So we'll get to that a little bit later in the show. And also this week, Trump's Department of Justice has been ordered to pay the legal fees for the good guys in the 2020 census citizenship question case. That's hard to say. The 2020 census citizenship question case, they've already paid 2.7 million for the Manhattan case. And now the plaintiffs in the Maryland cases are seeking force seven four million and seven million respectively

Along with over a hundred thousand they've already had to pay in the california case And this is all because of a federal rule that allows the winners in these cases to have all their legal fees paid by the losers That's incredible. I know. It's great, right? So Trump lost so now he has to pay their the his legal fees and their legal that's for all federal cases I think so that's awesome I have to look into that but i believe that there is a rule for that that's a that says that so and or at least they can ask for it i don't think they're required but i think they can ask the courts for those things also michael flin is back in the news uh... to catch you up really quick flin was supposed to be the super awesome cooperator of all time but when judge solivan the judge presiding over his case,

had him in the courtroom for the first sentencing hearing last December, if you remember, he was a really mad. Having seen all the redacted shit Flynn did, and all the underlying evidence that we haven't seen, he called Flynn a traitor to the flag in the country, he pointed to the flag behind him, and even asked Mueller's team if they considered charging Flynn with treason. And as we know, Flynn has lobbied on behalf of turkey without registering as foreign agent but he was also involved in the middle east martial plan to drop sanctions on russia and have them help give nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia

under the guise of building reactors there so they could develop a nuclear bomb but none of that is what he pleaded guilty to uh... he this was for lying to the FBI and members of the Trump transition team about conversations with the Russian ambassador, Kislyak, when he told Russia, don't, you know, don't respond to the sanctions that Obama put on for interfering in our election. And which they ended up not retaliating against. They listened to him. And Sullivan was so mad at Flynn during his sentencing, he warned him not to take his sentencing

then and said it would be very wise to continue cooperating. He's like, you don't want me to sentence you today, bro, not today. And he's like, no, we're good. He's like, no, you really don't want, you really don't want me to sentence you today. You need to get more cooperation under your belt because he was pretty mad. And he was going to be the star witness in Mueller's case against his business and lobbying partner, Bijan Kian or Bij Jean Rafiquian. He also failed to register as a foreign agent for Turkey. And it was Flynn and Kean, by the way, using Flynn's consulting firm that we're trying to influence U.S. policy relating to Turkey without registering. And then there

was even a plot where Turkey was going to pay Flynn $15 million to kidnap a Turkish cleric named Gulan, who was living in the United States who still is and they were going to deliver him like by playing in the night to Turkey. This is we know right about now. Let's see how long ago was it? Maybe four months ago Flynn fired his legal team. The one that got him the deal. The one his deal was he's not going to be charged as failing to file as a Turkish lobbyist as long as he helped in the Bijankian trial and testified against his own business partner. But he fired his legal team and hired a Russian hoax anti-muller conspiracy theorist, nut job named Sidney Powell, who had Flynn changed his story about acting as a foreign agent, saying he didn't realize what he was signing, his lawyers fucked him basically.

And that forced the prosecution to drop him as a witness and change his designation in the B. Jean-Keehan case from cooperating witness to co-conspirator. And that's pretty much where we left off. But last week, Flynn asked Judge Sullivan for permission, the guy who wanted him to, you know, asked about treason, asked him if he could get permission to travel to Atlanta. And the judge granted the request. But as soon as mother jones reported flin was actually going there to attend a rally with pop it up a list organized by

a q anon conspiracy theorist that thinks trump and muller are working together to take down an international ring of democrat pedophiles uh... all this to raise money for his legal defense fund uh... flin's lawyer announced that he was backing out of the event once that story came out and uh... flin does have an update this week, a trial update, an update hearing and we'll keep you posted on what goes on there because his sentencing has probably come in up pretty soon since he failed to cooperate. And we're all still wondering if he's going to be charged with failing to file as a foreign

agent, which was a crime he was forgiven for for cooperating with the B. Jean-Keehan case, which he stopped cooperating with. We'll see. Also this week, Trump tweeted out that he treated... Okay. There was this debunked study claiming that Google manipulated up to 16 million votes in favor of Hillary Clinton. Trump was like, oh, I won by a bigger margin than I even thought.

As it turns out, this study was conducted by a guy named Dr. Robert Epstein. He basically had 21 undecided voters, Google News stories, and found that more often than not, the story's favorite Clinton. And that somehow led him to the conclusion that anywhere between 2.6 million and 16 million votes went to Clinton because of the biased Google searches.

And the weird part here is, Dr. Robert Epstein, I was like, that name sounds familiar. Turns out he was my Psych 101 professor at Mesa Community College in San Diego back in the 90s. Not this actual one, right? This actual one. Oh, this guy? This guy. That's very weird.

I know. And he was a weird dude. I was over at his house one time. He had his over at his house working on a project or something and his whole house is like this giant scanarian behavioral experiment. Like we're sitting there one day and he's got this square taped off in the living room and all of a sudden at like 608 the dog comes in sits in the square and starts barking and apparently that's 608 is dinner time. And then he also had his kid, his son,

was living in the garage as punishment because he found weed on him. That's very unfortunate. I would hate that. I smoke a lot of weed. Yeah, unless maybe the garage is awesome, I don't know. Oh, it's full of weed. It's like when you send a bratty kid to the ring full of toys. Right. Yeah, it's gonna smoke all the toys.

What are you doing? My mom used to take the my door off the ring full of toys. Right. Yeah, they're just gonna smoke all the toys. What are you doing? My mom used to take the my door off the hinges, so I had no privacy. But it seems like if you relegated somebody at the garage, they would have more privacy. Yeah, yeah. That smoked a lot of weed in that garage if I were that kid.

And- I need drugs kids. No. And then, but sure. And then the other Epstein in the news this week is Jeffrey Epstein. Jolise, you have some stuff on him later in the show. Yes.

Now, we have an update for you on those House Oversight and Finance Committee's lawsuits to get Trump's financial information from Mazar's and Deutsche Bank in Capital One. So if you remember, the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed Mazar's Trump sued to block it. The courts found in favor of the House Dems, so Trump appealed it. So now it's in the appeals court. sued to block it, the courts found in favor of the House Dems, so Trump appealed it. So, now it's in the appeals court. The same thing with the House Intel and Financial Services Committee, Sipina, for Trump Organization documents, Sipina from Deutsche Bank in Capital One.

And last week, we reported that the Department of Justice had filed an amicus brief in both cases, saying they supported Trump and that Congress has no specific legislative need for the documents. Well, this week prosecutors responded. They filed a response to those amicus brief saying that the DOJ is ignoring centuries of investigations into presidents in an attempt to dramatically curtail Congress's power to provide oversight of the executive. Further, they say that the DOJ is called to invalidate their subpoenas would immunize

future presidents from congressional inquiry. I still think Trump will ultimately lose these cases and will get his bank records. And we should also remember that Tiss James, the New York Attorney General, is also investigating the Trump org and the Hush Money Payments case, which mysteriously went dark in the Southern District

of New York as soon as Barr came on board. And she has subpoenaed and is receiving documents from Deutsche Bank in Capital One. But what I find really disturbing is not only the Department of Justice under William Barr is not independent from the president, but they're actually filing amicus briefs on his behalf, supporting him personally as though they were personal character witnesses or personal lawyers for the executive branch. Oral arguments took place this Friday in the Deutsche Bank Capital One case. I love that it's Capital One because it puts a whole new meeting to what's in your wallet.

Yeah, and the three judge panel we talked about this last week, it's made up of two GWs in a Carter, which means one of the judges is appointed by Jimmy Carter and two were appointed by GW Bush. The Dubs, yeah. Two G Dubs in a Carter. Judge Newman is the Carter appointee and Livingston and Hall are the G-Dubs. And Lawfare notes that both Hall and Newman seems sympathetic to the House Dems, but Livingston, the other G-W judge,

seemed less convinced that the House of Peanuts were tailored appropriately. The hearing lasted about two hours, and the only strange part came at the end when Judge Hall asked Deutsche Bank and Capital One if they actually had Trump's tax returns Reps for Deutsche Bank and capital one refused to answer under financial privacy regulations, but The judge yelled at him and said you can't contract your way out of a court order And you have 48 hours to provide us with an answer nice

So we will keep you posted I have beans on a two-one ruling at least in favor of the house with Livingston dissenting or even if Livingston might join up and it might be an unanimous three O ruling. That's incredible. With favor to the House Dems and as a casino operator Trump should know the House always wins. Yeah, well he was bad at that too, so. Yeah, he failed. He failed at casinos.

I love the courts have this like authority, like they're like fuck your contracts man, like give it to me straight. I'm the court. I'm the court. I can actually make this quarter. The bucket stops here, yeah. Unless it goes to the bigger court. And probably what'll happen, I also have beans on this

because Trump's gonna lose this case here in this appellate court. I think Trump will file to have the case reherred and bonk, which means in front of all nine judges in the circuit or in New Peel's court. And then that'll probably get kicked back down to the lower court, which means Trump loses. And then Trump will probably petition to have it heard in the Supreme Court.

And I think that that will fail as well. I don't even think they'll hear the arguments. Right. So I think that this ruling will be the one that they stand on when the next two appeals get kicked back down. And then that'll be over. And we'll get all the documents, not us, but the house. Let's see, Sean Spicer's going to be on Dancing With The Stars.

She's the wheeze. Don't watch it, guys. We really, it's funny as it sounds. I really don't want to support like what Sean Spicer did. He's already making six figures regardless. I don't know if he'll make any more or less for my sharing it, but you right. It could only help him by making fun of it because he he knows he's a joke That's why he agreed to do this just like Rick Perry is not gonna lose so yeah I would say if you can help it don't share it

But I mean it's not I guess it's not the worst thing if you do make it make it a really good joke if we must You're gonna be able to see the clips online. So you're saying the clips are fine. We can support the clips Yeah, because that's not gonna go toward the ratings. Yeah, perfect It's not gonna give money to ABC who's bringing this guy on and it's as funny as spicy as He lied to the American people on several occasions and that is a really sacred institution and it it Bums me out that people are so lighthearted about it So try not to watch it on ABC and And you'll see the good clips on it. You will, the highlights.

And I bet he's going to lie about the ratings number two. It was bigger than they said, I swear. Yeah, Tom Bergeron actually jumped about that, the hosted dancing with the stars. He was like, host? Yeah. He's like, Spicer's going to be in charge of assessing crowdside. That's amazing.

Hey, they should hire us as a punch shot. We're thinking alike. Yeah, let's do it. Tom Bergeron were available for punch-ups. I just got to cover it, I guess. Sounds like it. And speaking of press secretaries, Sarah Sanders has been looking for a new job for over a year.

We know this, because she's been trying to leave the White House. And we didn't think she'd be able to find one, since she admitted that she lied to all of us, at least, one time, when she told Mueller that her claim that the FBI didn't like Komi and Trump got hundreds of emails of support for firing him based on nothing. Did they pass her up for dancing with the stars? What happened there?

Probably. Somebody actually joked on Twitter like maybe she'll show up on naked and afraid. Oh, that's amazing. I also strange. We don't want to picture it, I think. We thought nobody would hire her, right? But we didn't consider there's one place that hires total liars, and that's Fox News.

So she's going to, she's got a job as a contributor on Fox News and replacing her as press secretary as Stephanie Grisham, who's probably totally fine and not a piece of shit at all, right? Well, not if you don't counter getting fired for stealing from one job and then fired from another job for plagiarism. So stealing twice. Uh-huh. Yeah, once money and once stuff.

Yeah. Word. Ideas words. And then if you don't counter to DUIs in the past five years, she's totally fine. No red flags. Damn, too. Yeah. So I can't wait to hear her special brand of bullshit as new press secretary.

And that's what I can actually wait. That was interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And did you hear about the people that were like, I bet, you know, the people that are saying Sarah Sanders shouldn't have gotten hired on Fox or not saying anything about McCabe getting hired

on CNN. I am though, I love it. You're like, yeah, I agree with you on that. We're not saying anything besides congrats, McCabe. Yeah. Babe, I believe in you. I totally do as well. That's why I think just because like, it's projection.

It's like, oh, we have bad people. So everyone that does the same thing. It's like, it's just, oh, we have bad people, so everyone that does the same thing. It's like, it's just because they both get jobs. It doesn't mean they're both evil. That's a weird projecting thing to say, to just tie. But they also talked about how he supposedly lied to what the DOJ, that's their big thing against McMick Cabe. Supposedly.

No Cabe or whatever. Well, that's just it, because Sarah Huckabee Sanders fucking lied. She actually lied. And McCabe lacked candor, and there is a a difference don't let any Trump supporter online tell you differently There's a difference between lacking candor and then lacking candor lying under oath Lacking candor means you left something out that might have been important Lacking candor lying under oath is that you told a lot yeah, and she's done that one is against the law One is not. Well, it's

not against the law for Sanders, because lying to the public isn't a crime. But lying under oath in an investigation or to Congress is what she also did, right? She did. Well, no, she didn't lie to Mueller, but the Cabe didn't lie under oath. He lied. Candor under oath. And then actually realized he omitted something and called them back later that day and said Oh, I forgot to tell you this absolutely an updated story So yeah when people try to you know conflate that but lying and lacking candor or the same thing there are not those are two different Charges and Tanger than minute that she had no grounds to her like comments like she admitted to Muller Yeah, but she yeah, yeah, because if she would have been lying under oaths. She would have gone a jail

That's not lacking candor. That's fucking lying. So, yeah, don't listen to any of that hoopla. Because it's just absolutely not the truth. So, all right, let's see. Jason Leopold at Buzzfeed News reported Saturday that documents released by a federal judge confirmed his previous reporting that Felix Sater was a key U.S. asset and provided intelligence that included but was not limited to Osama bin Laden's whereabouts following 9-11, the internal structure and the financial capabilities of al-Qaeda, the whereabouts of Taliban leader Mullah Omar, ground reports on who was killed by U.S. air strikes, and details of an assassination

plot against President Bush and information on North Korea's nuclear capabilities. He was also instrumental in weakening the mafia's role on Wall Street and played a role in helping the US dismantle money laundering operations in Russia, Cyprus, Turkey, and elsewhere. He also provided information about the identities of Russian mob leaders, the American business interest of oligarchs, and the ties they had to organize crime figures. So when Sadar was young, like in his mid-20s, he swindled investors out of like $40 million and laundered it through offshore accounts with the help of organized crime figures.

So he turned himself in and then offered himself to the FBI, saying he had a shitload of intel on Afghanistan, al-Qaeda, the mafia, oligarchs, money-launders, etc. Because he hung out with the assholes. And we know Sator worked with Cohen and Trump on Trump Tower Moscow, and that Sator lied to Congress when he corroborated Cohen and Trump's lies, saying the Trump Tower Moscow deal ended about six months before it actually did. Now, I wonder if he was cooperating at the time, and that's why he was never charged with lying to Congress.

We have not seen a Mueller plea deal with Sator, but that could all be part of a still-open and ongoing investigation. Remember Appendix D? There were like 14 handed off, 12 were redacted. But he's a burned asset now, so he's not like he can continue helping in a counterintelligence capacity except with things that have already happened. And finally this week, anyway, I just, before I get to the next one, I just thought that was really interesting about, about Sator because Jason Leopold's been reporting on this

for a long time. We mentioned it a while back saying, you know, we heard a rumor that he helped find Osama Bin Laden. He was actually able to get, Osama Bin Laden's satellite telephone numbers to the government, which helped locate him in Pakistan. So he's actually been quite an asset to US counterintelligence. So that's made, that might explain why he wasn't charged. They might have been like, look, just keep playing along.

Go ahead and tell Congress what Trump and Cohen want you to tell Congress, but he's not mentioned at all in the Mueller report. I don't know, I don't get it. Yeah. I'm going to have to find out from Seth Abramson what he thinks because I know he's looking into this and he mentioned it in his books Proof of Collusion Proof of Conspiracy. Finally this week, we all know who Alexi Navalny is, right? He's the one of the guys that's been running against Putin in Russia. He released the tape that Nastya Rybka took on Dara Paska's boat when he was updating one of the

Russian deputy prime ministers on what he had just learned from Manafort through Constantin Kalimnik after Manafort and Kalimnik met at that cigar bar in Kushner's devil building at 666 Fifth Avenue. Well, he's been in a Russian jail in the Volnyhaz for the past 30 days for encouraging protests on the LFS protests. And he was released Friday and said the protests would grow, despite Putin's efforts to crack down on opposition. And he said, quote, now we see that lies and fraud are not enough for them. It's not enough for them to ban candidates from election.

They deliberately want to arrest dozens and beat up hundreds. So the National Parliamentary Election is due in 2021. So that is what's going on with that. Anyway, nice. It's, I'm just glad Navalny's out of jail. I'm surprised they let him out, but I guess they couldn't hold him. So we'll see what happens from here. But he is definitely a Putin opposition.

And remember what Putin did to Hillary when he blamed Hillary for the riots? Well, he's blaming Navalny for these and the opposition, his political opposition. And as we know, he's totally corrupt and fixes all of his elections anyway. So I don't know. We'll keep you posted what's going on over there.

We don't have any leverage. So the US can't do anything about it other than just sort of watch. But I think it's an important developing story. Totally. All right, guys, we'll be right back in a second. Hey, it's AG. Not all heroes were capes.

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We also learned that Epstein purchased two pairs of small women's underwear while serving time in Palm Beach. Not to mention one of the victim's lawyers, Bradley Edwards, has accused Epstein of having sexual encounters with at least one of the female visitors well in jail However, that visitor's log was mysteriously destroyed and Finally, we learned this week that the day after Epstein was taken off suicide watch He spent at least two hours locked up alone with a young woman and a private room That's usually reserved for inmates and their attorneys. Yeah

A lot of updates there. And we thought too, for a minute, that, you know, because he had this first suicide attempt alleged, and then two days later, he had that will drawn up, which is hiding all of his, like, almost $600 million in an estate and a trust, excuse me, which makes it really hard for Vic, because before it was, victims are gonna sue the shit out of his estate and they're gonna get all their restitution.

But then two days after his first suicide attempt, it seems like his lawyers called him up and said, dude, if you're gonna do this, at least hide your money for us in a god-damaged, you know, trust fund. Yeah. Or a trust, not a trust fund, but a trust. Can you do that? And so he set this thing up and that was two days after the attempt and then within two weeks, maybe about a week and a half later,

that's when he had that young girl visit him in jail. Because we were wondering maybe she was a lawyer and helped drop the will, but the timeline doesn't matter. Yeah, I think sometimes people have one last meal, and then he has one last lay. Ugh. That's my theory. But I honestly feel like these women are sometimes like, they're still tied into his ring.

I don't think the sex trafficking ends just because he dies. I don't think he's stopped all those years ago. I think he just has his ways of entrapping women and it's just really sad. Like, I mean, let's say she is a lawyer and it's all above water, sure. But just knowing his history, it all seems very strange. Why suddenly get this really attractive young lawyer, just for optics alone, if you're concerned about that, or if anyone's concerned, why wouldn't they say,

like the guy said in the article, hire a bald old guy, you know? Like you've got plenty of options there, but I think even though she was just eye candy for him, I think it says how, just, I don't know, how much his mentality was largely sexualized, like his whole idea idea of like I need to be around someone that I can look at that I can think about fucking or fuck cuz he took off his handcuffs. Yeah. And apparently there's no cameras in those rooms.

Interesting. Which I thought was weird. If you know if there's cameras in these attorney's rooms because people have said no, they're absolutely aren't and people have said yes, they're absolutely are. If you know, let us know. Hit us up on Twitter at mullersheyroad or head to our website muller she wrote comm and send us a Contact form because I'm really interested to know if there would be cameras in there not because like you said Jalisa If it were a one-time thing that he's and he's he wasn't a sex trafficker and he wasn't known for raping young women And he hadn't done this already when he was supposed to be in jail in 2008,

buying girls underwear and then meeting with these women. Two of them have now filed a lawsuit against him because they were under age when they were forced to have sex with him while he was supposed to be in jail. This has happened before. It's not like we're just saying out of nowhere this woman was young and pretty. Therefore, he must have fucked her. I think the idea is that this is what he did. And when he was doing actual legal stuff

that we know of, he had lawyers that weren't young and pretty and female. So I think the idea is that it's a weird change right before you die to be in a room alone with her. Yeah, that's it. That's yeah, it's just. A couple of days. Like one last meal, like you said.

Together for two hours at least, I mean, it just doesn't look good. It doesn't look good for anyone. Yeah. And I'm interested to see if anyone can get an interview with that young female. Oh, yeah. That'd be interesting. And honestly, if she's a legit person, as far as her job goes, I don't want to, you

know, offend her. I just, he's a weird person to work with. She must understand that it comes with some suspicions. Yeah. Yeah. And she might have been totally a licensed attorney or a resident. Yeah. But was just really there to just be a beautiful young woman. Right. And that honestly would be fine. Just knowing that he is so creepy. He's always creepier than you think. He always is. It's hard to give him the benefit of the

doubt. Always. And we always say, you know, we're speculating. This is conjecture. Totally. But you're right. This is based on years and years and years of previous behavior and patterns. Wasn't his first time acting. The rodeo totally. All right well thanks for that, Jolissa. Thank you. I have two quick stories. First Tom Barich is back in the news.

Early this week we learned that Trump and Barich are no longer speaking despite decades of close friendship. Like Barich was with Trump and comforted him at the at the fall at the funeral of his race as dad for a trump and uh... this is likely because brox roll in the inaugural because that's now under heavy investigation by congress in the new york attorney general and according to the senior administration official trump was surprised to learn

that foreigners were paying top dollar for access to him through barrack and the inaugural and that he didn't get any of that money. He was mad about that. And that's interesting because here we have another indication that it might not have been Trump himself that orchestrated this, but rather those around him set to take advantage of their proximity to the president or the president-elect to sell access and get rich. We know Brody did it, Manafort did it, Cohen did it. In fact, it was Barrack who got Manafort the job as campaign chair by writing a letter to Trump and recommending him.

What the president knew, and when he knew it, however, are being investigated, and we will keep you up to date. And then big news, big, big news in the battle between the Treasury Department and the IRS. With, you know, their battling the Houseways and Means Committee right now, Richard Neal is the chair of that committee, Democratic chair of that committee. Because back in April, Richard Neal began asking the IRS and Treasury for Trump's tax returns under a 100-year-old black and white law that says the House of Ways and Means Committee has the power to get any person's tax returns. And it's been going back and forth. And this past week, the House Dems filed a request to expedite the case. Let's hurry this along because it's so simple and they asked for a summary judgment.

They said just just rule on it now because it's so easy. It's open and closed. And then the Treasury Department, Trump and the IRS filed an opposition to that motion saying no, man, slow down because this case raises complex and weighty constitutional issues. There's no reason to speed this up to a gallup, quote unquote. But the motion from Congress that asked for a quick ruling included 54 appendices, attachments, and hidden way in the back, buried is a piece of news

in filing QQ, which we had not heard before. And it's a letter to Steve Manuchin from Richard Neal saying that in July, this year he received unsolicited messages from a federal employee with credible allegations of evidence of possible misconduct, specifically inappropriate efforts to influence the mandatory presidential tax audit program. And as you'll remember, Richard Neal's reason for subpoenaing Trump's taxes from the IRS, not that he needs one under the law, you can do this without a reason. But his reason was that the House has to examine the effectiveness of the presidential tax audit program. And we were

like, yeah, it'd probably be good to know that, you know, if Trump's taxes were audited properly, well apparently it was based on more than just a hunch because that, it wasn't if Trump's taxes were audited properly, well, apparently it was based on more than just a hunch because that, it wasn't made up out of thin air because this is based on a tip they got from a whistleblower with incredible allegations that someone made inappropriate efforts to influence the audit of Trump's taxes. And in this filing last week, House Dems told the court they were willing to hand over the information and evidence from the whistleblower if they need it. So if you whistleblow the court will just take it no matter what.

Like if there's, I guess that ties into the whole like they can't fuck with. The court hasn't ruled yet? Oh okay okay. This is just the, this is Richard Neal just submitting a bunch of stuff to the court saying you can go ahead and rule now. Look at all my evidence. And he slides over 54 appendix. Right. Like they expect to just go through over that all that information so quickly and and but he they should

and and and not only that but he says and also our our legislative purpose here which we don't need but we have because we want to you know evaluate the effectiveness of this tax audit program we have evidence that that was done improperly if you want it just let us know oh shit so this is good they want to get really quickly okay it's really good So not only did they ask for them to speed it up, but they handed over a shitload of evidence saying, here's why you can speed it up. Oh, and also if you want this evidence from the whistleblower, you can have that too. So the court might get their hands on that as well. Nice. So this is a big step. We'll see what

the court says. They still haven't ruled on the Mazar's case. Again, it's going to just keep happening like the other case I was talking about with, they're going to, you know, Trump's going to lose with the Deutsche Bank and Capital One, for example. And Mazar's Trump's going to lose. And in this particular House Ways and Means Committee, IRS, Sapina, Trump's going to lose and the IRS is going to lose. Of course, they'll appeal it to be heard, re-heard, and BAC. And then that'll get kicked back down and it'll go to Supreme Court. That'll get kicked back down. Supreme Court might hear this one, just to maybe set a precedent

that no one's tax returns are exempt from this very easy black and white rule. But I don't even know, that might not even make it to the merits. Because I think like 5,000 cases get put up to the Supreme Court every year. And they only hear a couple hundred. So, you know, just, ain't nobody got time for that. No wonder people go to school for this shit. It goes right over my head. But I love it.

I love how complex it is. It's a lot. I would never make a good lawyer, but I love to hear about it. Yeah, but I think it's looking good for us. And so I hope that the court will grant the motion to expedite this stuff Alrighty ready for sabotage. Yeah All right this week sabotage centers around the National Rifle Association as they continue to spiral to their demise this week after more high-profile board members step

down including country star Craig Morgan and deputy executive for legislative action David layman and NASCAR team owner Richard Childress. We've been covering the downfall of the NRA for a while now Jordan has been on top of that and in the last month multiple board members have left amidst the scandalous mismanagement of funds and lavish probably illegal spending by those at the top, namely, Wayne Loppier. There were also a couple of suits filed against them, including one from their ad firm, Ackerman McQueen, who we think was embroiled in a money laundering scheme to hide Trump pack money.

That's speculation. Donated via the NRA from Russia, but like I said, those are beans. We don't have any evidence of that other than it being obvious. But Hackeman McQueen is suing over about $450,000 in credit card spending of donated funds on personal stuff. Trips to Vegas and shit like that in states of the Ritz Carlton.

And a major donor is also suing Wayne Lopier for mismanagement of donations. The sabotage here is that Tish James, in your interview with Maddo this week, says she's investigating the 501C4 for potentially running a foul, potentially running a foul of New York State non-profit laws as the NRA is chartered in New York.

We already know this, but this week on Maddo, she said she just won a case against the NRA because she wanted to depose former president of the NRA all over North. The NRA opposed this and wanted their lawyers present. They lost, so she will be deposing him. She's issued over 90 subpoenas in the NRA case, and many current and former board members are cooperating with her. Tish currently has 17 investigations into Trump and his affiliates and businesses and considers

it a badge of honor that Trump is saying she's bludgeoning him. She also reiterated multiple times that the president is not above the law, which makes me wonder if she's willing to indict a sitting president because that rule, that Department of Justice memo that says you can indict a sitting president, doesn't apply to state attorneys general very nice I have a question is it just because they're a nonprofit that their people are able to sue them like that like to do the donations or the donors You can sue somebody for any reason. Okay, but the chances of them actually like successfully getting their money back Yeah, if you're making donations to a 501 c4 under the

auspices of helping Prop up the second amendment and he's out taking hookers to no offense. I love hookers But that's what they were doing taking his friends to like restaurants at the Ritz Carlton in Vegas Yeah, buying two hundred and something thousand dollars in suits and the six million dollar mansion and for sure That is is where you run a foul of the law. Yeah, and using it for your house and things like that Yeah, I'm just spending way more than you should. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can spend as much as you want as long as it's justified and spending it on personal expenditures when you're supposed to be collecting that

money to help support the second amendment. They can't just write off the houses like their office, but just be like, it's just a really big office. Just a six million dollar off. Well, that's what he tried to say. Remember when you bought that mansion, he said he needed protection from the public. And only the mansion would offer it. You know, I love that.

He tried. And I'm thinking, you know, you know where's really safe? Prison. Oh. Yeah, you get a lot of protection. And it's usually bigger too. I mean, not your personal space, but.

That's super safe. Yeah, I say lock them up. I 100% for this. I'm just surprised that the legal system is actually like going with it. That's surprising. Well, it's New York attorney general and then of course these civil suits you can file a civil suit Any anything you can be like on the round. I don't like Wayne Loppier's eyes. I'm so I'm just get dismissed Yeah, yeah, but she's to James is definitely on top of this. She's she's my shining beacon of hope

She's incredible since bar took over the Department of Justice. Yeah, yeah. She's a truly good person. Yeah, she really is. And she's, again, she just keeps reiterating. He's not above the law. He's not above the law. And I can't help thinking she's gonna throw an indictment down on his ass. I hope so.

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It's for you. Pickups. I'm gonna go with the David Pecker. Nice. A.A.M.I. I'll take Flynn. Flynn. I like Flynn.

Me, I'm gonna do Jizz Lane, Maxwell. Nice. I heard she staged that picture. There's so many rumors going around. I don't know. It makes more sense that she would stage that reading of Assassinations book. That was just too weird.

And it came out in the New York Post, which is just a trash magazine. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. I will take Don Jr. I know it's a big one, but man, he keeps popping up and he ate the president. No, you're right, he's not the president.

Yeah, he's definitely more vulnerable to, but we'll see what happens. How about I'm gonna go with the Trump inaugural? Nice. And then do I one more? Or is that it? You have one more. Okay cool. I will pick a kush. Kush. That's a good one. I think from my final one I'm gonna go with um... Kalamari. Very nice. From the Trump org. As an individual.

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So joining us today is the host of the Stephanie Miller Show. You can hear it Monday through Friday 6-9 AM, Sirius XM 127, and our special panel guest for our live show this Friday, August 30th at the Independent Theater in San Francisco. Please welcome Steph Miller. Steph, thanks for coming on Mueller. She wrote today. AG, I miss my Mueller. She wrote gal. I hope you have bail money for San Francisco. I need to blow off some steam. We're going to see each other real soon. And we are bringing bail money.

It's in the budget. Fantastic. I forget if I can swear on this podcast or not. You fucking can. President is barking fucking mad. Is there anything else to talk about really? That is actually my first question for you. One of your tweets recently. I think it was today a couple hours ago. You're saying that Trump is being extraordinarily erratic lately, which I thought was kind. And I'm hearing that from a lot of people. What do you think is going on? people, what do you think is going on? You know, it's hard to honestly talk show hosts, right?

It's hard to even put it into words anymore where, to me, if you're a comedian, it's really not fucking funny anymore. Yesterday was terrifying. This whole, you know, I'm the chosen one, I'm king of Israel, I'm, I don't even know, you're trying to buy Greenland from Denmark. I mean, I just, I feel like it may have been, and that's saying a lot,

but the most extraordinary 24 hour period that if there any doctor, any psychologist, any person with a parent would go, you would have that person evaluated, you would take their car keys. I mean, that this person has nuclear codes is, I mean, you know, and I feel like it's the orange elephant in the room. So I think it's just you're like going, how can there be any other discussion except the fact that he's sweating? He can't pronounce basic words. He's ranting and raving. He is delusional. You can't tell any more whether

he knows he's lying or he's just completely detached from reality at this point. Yeah, we were wondering that ourselves yesterday because like, does he actually believe what he's saying? Does he really think he's the chosen one? And that's if our bitch like right out of the family, by the way, and it's, Oh, I know. It's frightening. And he's the second coming of God. But you know, how can people watch, can I ask a question, things like the family

and handmaid's tale for entertainment with this fucking terrifying shit show we're living through in reality? That is not entertainment to me. Yeah, it's almost documentary. Well, the family is, but like handmade tale, because we were talking about that yesterday with just these, like the abortion clinics

and Missouri Planned Parenthood having to pull out a title 10 because he won't allow doctors to do their doctor jobs. It's absolutely astounding. Oh my God, I how about like caching kids indefinitely no flu vaccine. He's gonna overturn the 14th amendment. I mean he did I did I start by saying he's fucking barking mad. Yeah, I mean he's just nothing he says is either true legal, constitutional, you name it, right? Yeah, and he brought up that whole birthright citizenship shit like last October, too, where he kind of hinted at maybe getting rid of it. And everybody was like, ah, he's just, you know, grandpa's needs his meds.

No, is there anything that you would be surprised? Like, I feel like it's the part of the movie where he's out of bullets. He's just gonna throw the gun at us and run away. I mean, I honestly would not be surprised if he steps down. I don't know if you saw this latest polling, but he is cratering. He's a 36% approval, 60 something, high 60s disapproval. I mean, somebody tweeted just now a few more points and Republicans will impeach him. Or I mean, the fact that every cabinet member

and Republican is not being asked today about the 25th Amendment and are you seriously telling me this is a stable fit person. Yeah. In the Oval Office. I mean, is this even partisan anymore? Yeah, and I've noticed, and some news reports are talking about Ivanka and Kush being MIA since his, you know, the Jews or low knowledge and like disloyal. Right. And he's kind of been like, there's been these like rumors that he's grooming Ivanka. Maybe he's gonna step down, you know, because of his third stage syphilis dementia

and gonna run Ivanka. I, again, I don't know that you can, if the prediction game is sort of over, I don't think there's anything, you know, but I mean, the part that gets not funny is he's literally destroying the world. I mean, we're clearly heading into a recession. Our, we have what trillion and a half deficit now,

or the trade war is killing us. We have lost our allies. We're, I mean, he threatens our allies daily and he could not be doing Putin's bidding. Any more obviously, you know, everyone Everyone was saying, what is causing this particular level of insanity and maybe all of it, the polling, including Fox polling, showing every Democrat pretty much beating him, the talk of recession that he's destroying the economy. But I also think it's his tax returns. There's a whistleblower at the IRS, and I think

whatever is in his tax returns, AG, is not just presidency ending, it's jalable probably. It's probably all there, right? Russia, money laundering, you know, self-dealing, you name it. Yeah, because it's it's mazaars, and then there's also the Deutsche Bank Capital One case, and then of course the Ways and Means trying to get his tax returns and that's the whistleblower story. Right. And he wants to make, he wants to bring Russia back into the G7 and he, you know, they're actually reported 500,000 fewer jobs since 2018 than he reported. Angie, I feel like I'm honestly, he's making us crazy conspiracy theorists because I am not a conspiracy theorist. I said if you noticed how everything he's accused his Hillary and Obama of doing, he's doing.

And so I remember when he accused Obama of cooking the books on the jobs numbers and you're like, oh, you crazy fucker. And now I'm like going, oh my god. Why? Because you know, there is nothing you would, you wouldn't put past him. No, but they thought we were conspiracy theorists when we were saying that Russia interfered in the, in the, in the election. So, I mean, yeah, you know, just take off your tinfoil hat, nothing is off limits. Yeah, and now we have, you know, more and more Congress people coming forward for impeachment, but also citing volume one is not just, you know, that we were attacked, but that we're

in the middle of an ongoing attack that he is not only not stopping, but is encouraging. He is inciting white supremacist violence. I mean, what do we, how many people have name checked him specifically now in these massacres? I mean, this is just, it's hard to even digest it every day, isn't it? I mean, I should warn you, I will probably be drunker than Larry Cudlow next Friday in San Francisco, but at least I know how to pronounce absurd, which the president is not. Yeah, and then you talk about volume one, and everybody knows, or at least, you know, congressional reps know that the contacts in volume one may not have risen, may not have had sufficient evidence for a criminal coordination charge, but they're certainly impeachable

offenses. And I think that's why the focus is coming back on volume one. Yeah, well absolutely. And the reason they're not in the G8 is because not only Crimea, but I mean, they poisoned the UK, they attacked our elections, they shot down a civilian airliner. It's, I mean, even this Greenland thing, A.G. people are like, oh, because there's an oil thing and maybe Putin wants a staging ground and the Arctic, you're just like, there's just nothing you go, oh my God, he is so clearly either being blackmailed or doing Putin's bidding, I

just because he's a useless idiot, I can't even tell anymore. Yeah, I'd start to know if he's unwitting. But and and now we have Joe fucking Walsh, who is set to maybe primary, try to primary Trump. We have already, I think Bill Welles has already been doing it, but now we've got Joe Walsh. Yeah, Debbie, Debbie dad says what? Yeah, he's a prize, right?

Well, you know, and the other thing, AG is, I'm sorry, but, you know, God, I don't know if you, we always play this sound bite that I love from death becomes her when Merrill Street drinks the potion that keeps her young forever. And then the person goes, now a warning and she goes, now a warning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, or from the wedding singer when he's like, again, information that would have been

used full a week ago. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, God love you, but it's just the mood, and avarosa, and whatever, it's like, you fucking built this monster. Like now, you're trying to control your own monster. I mean, I just think the whole thing is, I finally tweeted back at George Conway yesterday, he said, okay, it's time for someone on the White House staff to take them to Walter Reed

seriously. And I'm like, really? George, because I think you might know someone on the White House staff. Maybe they aren't talking. So you had Malcolm Nance on recently to discuss this recession threat because of the inverted yield curve and all that, you you know the indicators of recession. And we've heard Trump blame pretty much everyone but himself. What did Malcolm have to say about this and is there national security concern?

Oh, of course. I mean, there's a national security concern in everything in almost every story. You know, I mean, I just think it's just his erraticness and this just pure chaos that we live in in every day. It's obviously, I mean, it literally is not overstating. I think to not just say we can be in a recession, it's because of a worldwide recession. It's obviously extraordinarily dangerous. I mean, Jay Inslee was right when he said, what's the biggest threat to America? Donald Trump.

Yeah, best answer. He took an old task to protect us from all enemies, foreign and domestic. He's our number one enemy, foreign and domestic. But not only is he not protecting us from it. And he checks both boxes for an and domestic. He checks both. Right. domestic he checks both right no I mean what do you say we actively inciting and causing violence in America and race war and and

actively inciting and encouraging foreign attack you know it's I don't I don't I see here I don't I feel like I'm stroking out again. This is what happens. Well, don't worry I will have some wine in San Francisco. We'll we'll be cool. We'll cut low it up. It'll be great and Listen, I'm hanging with Muller She wrote in wine country. I could not say no It's my vacation next week, but I'm like yes, that I'm doing and well We really appreciate it. Hey before I let you go Can you tell everyone where they can listen and watch? I mean, you've got so much going on. Can you let everybody know where they can find you?

Yeah, yeah, thanks. I'm on Series XM on Progress, Channel 127. I'm on stations around the country. You can find me on your tuning app or your I-hard app on your phone. I'm on free speech TV, which is on, you know, dish and on some cable of cable stations. You can online is Stephanie Miller.com. And I have a brand new podcast network called Stephanie Miller's sexy liberal podcast network.

That's like sexy liberal.com. And we have 10 amazing smart, funny, sexy liberals. You are the only sexy liberals in the country that are not on my network. But I'm going to get you a lickered up and get that taken care of next week. Ha ha ha ha ha. Art of the deal.

There you go. Wow wow. Alright. Alright, guys, host of the Stephanie Miller show, our guest for the upcoming live show in San Francisco, August 30th. She'll be at the VIP meet and greet along with Adam Savage from Mythbusters, the night of the show at the independent theater. So, Stephanie Miller, thanks for coming on Muller She Wrote.

Thanks, babe. See you next week. All right, that's our show. I love talking to Steph Miller. She's so awesome. Yeah, she's great. I'm excited to see her this weekend in San Francisco. She's gonna hang out. She's bringing the wine.

So, there's a few tickets left, hop online at Muller She Wrote and grab yours today. And you can join us for our second VIP meet and greet Thursday. The 29th at 5 p.m., a link to the tickets is in our pinned tweet at Muller She wrote. You have any final thoughts before we get out of here? Um, she said I love you. Oh, um, I'm doing a new racial and that episode tomorrow.

So Sunday, yeah, so I got that. And yeah, I love you guys. Can we see you on tour? No, that's it. And I guess my final thought goes out to Jordan and her voice. I hope it gets better. Please, please get well. We miss you.

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