Jack - The Mueller Report - Pt. 3

Episode Date: June 7, 2019

Join the hosts of the award-winning podcast Mueller, She Wrote for part 3 of their special coverage of the Mueller Report!    ...

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Harry Lickman, host of Talking Feds. Around table, the brings together prominent figures from government law and journalism for a dynamic discussion of the most important topics of the day. Each Monday, I'm joined by a slate of Feds favorites at new voices to break down the headlines and give the insider's view of what's going on in Washington and beyond. Plus, sidebar is explaining important legal concepts read by your favorite celebrities. Find Talking Feds where ever you get your podcasts. So to be clear, Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs.
Starting point is 00:00:42 That's what he said. That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two and that campaign and I didn't have, and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin
Starting point is 00:01:02 for I have nothing to do with Putin? I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So it is political. You're a communist.
Starting point is 00:01:19 No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Hello and welcome to Muller She Wrote. I'm your host, A.G. and with me as always, our Jolissa Johnson. Hello. And Jordan Coburn.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Hello. And this is part three of our extensive special coverage of the Redacted Muller Report. And in this episode, we're gonna cover section three of volume one. That's pages 36 to 65. It's pretty beefy. It gets pretty juicy at the end.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So stick with us, and we'll go through it. It's really, really, no collusion. So this section covers the second method by which Mueller determined the Russians interfered in our elections. The first method was internet research agency, the IRA, and social media active measures, which we covered in our elections. The first method was Internet Research Agency, the IRA, and social media active measures, which we covered in section two.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But this is the Russian hacking and dumping operations. And I know in the last episode we discussed the story about the two major Russian operations in Prague. And I just wanted to say it's more likely, though, I don't know for sure, that those operations were hacking hubs in Prague and not troll farms, you know. So beginning on page 36 of the Mueller report, it says that in the beginning, no beginning to post Bible, is that how the Bible starts? It sounds like a big, big, big story.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I think that was Genesis. In the beginning, there was nothing and then there was everything. The end, I think is the, some people died. Amazing. A couple of guys lived to be 900, toads, norms. Hell yeah, well here's Mueller's Bible. Yep Trump even called it that that's right. I think you're gonna sign a copy of my whole Reworking that yeah, I saw your your eyes went. Oh, yeah, yeah a little light bulb lit up totally
Starting point is 00:02:54 You smoke a lot of weed when you have an idea does a black light pop up over your head We're like a lava lamp And I totally just all that for Mitch headberg We're like a lava lamp. And I totally just stole that from Mitch Hedberg. Just so nice. I wouldn't have known. Too young. Yeah, I mean either.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah, if I had done it in his voice, does a black light pop up over your head? There you are. There would have been more. There would have been more, Mitchy. Gosh, I love that guy. Anyway, page 36 in the beginning, March of 2016, the GRU hacked computers and email accounts of organizations, employees, and volunteers of the Clinton campaign, including Padesta. I would highly recommend reading the Russia indictments if you haven't for no other reason
Starting point is 00:03:29 than to grasp the scale, scope, and detail of Mueller's findings. Like, he knew how many fucking eyelashes Ivonne Vitch had on his left eye. Like that he lied. He's got beautiful eyelashes. It's gorgeous. I think he uses latisse. But it was fantastic, amazing amounts of detail. And he was able to get all that.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It was pretty intense. And I think that's why there's a lot of redactions in this report for how they investigate procedures and methods because they don't want to give any of that away. We know how to sit on stuff and get this kind of detail. So, the GRU hacked the DNC and the D-Triple C, along with targeting hundreds of email accounts, spearfishing. In total, the GRU stole hundreds of thousands of documents from the compromised email accounts and networks. The GRU later released the stolen documents and emails through online personas they created themselves called DCLeaks
Starting point is 00:04:19 and Gucci for 2.0. And then later through WikiLeaks, when they were like, hey, we're bigger give it to us. The release was designed and timed to interfere with the 2016 US presidential election to undermine the Clinton campaign specifically. And I know that seems obvious now, but it wasn't back then. The releases were weaponized for their deliberate timing. We had beans on that, but Mueller confirms it here. It only took 22 months.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Hey, it was thorough. Better late than never. Not to mention that we were told early on that DC leaks and goods for 2.0 were not Russian, and now we have proof that they are. Yeah, they try to claim they were like Romanian or something. Yeah. I was like, well, Romania hates us too.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And Trump even lubed that truth by coming out and saying it's probably a 400 pound guy in his bed. Did he need himself? Little did they know. Americans are ignorant as fuck fuck and they're like, Romaniot or Russia, what's the difference? Yeah, same. They're not.
Starting point is 00:05:10 It's no difference to them. Totally, totally. You know, they haven't seen Chernobyl. And here it states unequivocally that the Trump campaign showed interest in the WikiLeaks releases and in the summer and fall of 2016, redacted, redacted, redacted. And then after redacted, redacted, WikiLeaks first Clinton related release redacted, the Trump campaign stated in contact, redacted about WikiLeaks activities. The investigation was unable to resolve, redacted, WikiLeaks release, or the stolen pedestrian
Starting point is 00:05:38 emails on October 7, 2016, the same day video, you know, the pussy tape came out. That's right. And all these redactions, take a look at this paragraph. It's an interesting one. It's page 36, paragraph two, all the beans in the universe on these redactions, being about Roger Stone. However, that last sentence, that the investigation was unable to resolve redacted and wiki leaks release of the stolen pedestrian emails hour after the grab them by the pussy tape came out.
Starting point is 00:06:05 That's what that's referring to, right? My guess is that it says Mueller was unable to resolve stones for knowledge of WikiLeaks release of the stolen emails, but I don't know. Maybe he couldn't resolve stones coordination, but I don't think that means he didn't find evidence of it. I think it means he was unable to resolve it either because of lying liarsars lying or it's an ongoing matter or dipshit ignoring subpoenas. I think lars Lying liars lying is the next stage in the 12 days of Christmas thing. I like it That's great or the next gym carry movie and there's no numbers
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yeah, lying lying lying right right. You did a whole bit on on that I forgot when we used to remember oh when Christmas was coming. Yes. I totally forgot I just hacked your joke. Yeah, oh, it's all good. She did a whole thing. Do you remember it? I do yeah go listen to the episodes leading up to Christmas of last year Yeah, yeah, I would start reading the stories that we were gonna go over and like then I just would go into the 12 days of Christmas Yeah, that was great. Yeah Yeah, anyway, where was I? Let's see. Maybe it could be this whole, instead of lying, lying, lying, lying, or dipshit's ignoring spleen, is it could be because the investigation was terminated before that was uncovered?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Because as we know, the stone case was handed off to DC. That's Jesse Liu, US Attorney's Office in DC, the week that Mueller ended his investigation. If he didn't find evidence, he'd have said that. That's important that he didn't resolve it. If he could resolve it and didn't find evidence, he'd have said that. That's important that he didn't resolve it. If he could resolve it and didn't have evidence, he would have said that because he says that elsewhere in this report. We now know Amy Burman, Judge Jackson, if you're nasty, has read the redacted portions of the Mueller report that have to do with Stone, and we're waiting for his trial to start
Starting point is 00:07:41 November 5th. Stone has requested the full Mueller report, but I don't think he'll get it. Maybe he'll get some pieces of it, some redacted pieces of it that maybe have to do with him that everybody already knows about, but there she's not gonna hand over the whole report. Maybe if he didn't have all those Instagram faux pas
Starting point is 00:07:59 previously, he would be a lot to see anything. He would just publish it all in his Insta stories or whatever he does with his top hats. Then we just write them on stones and really small writing himself. How many stones would it take to write the full molar? Oh, that's like a little what do they call them? Blutters Depression question. Like guess how many jelly means? Like, let's see, it's 16,500 lines, about 20 words per line. So you're looking at many millions of stuff. Yeah, wow. Get one of those like rice writer people.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Oh, yeah. Carnivals, whatever. The type of people who can draw people out things on the heads of pins. Yes. That you could probably fit it all on one day. Yeah, he's a carnival guy. This is where he should be. Absolutely. It's a line of work that he needs to add on. There's plenty of children. one day. He's a carnival guy. This is where he should be. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:45 This is line of work that he lost that on. There's plenty of children. I've heard he's a good boy before, and he can bring back her hand again. Just give him a pair of those little tiny round plastic kids glasses, and he becomes Steve Martin in the jerk. Absolutely. Stop right up and win some crap. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Then we get to part A, called GRU Hacking Dire direction at the Clinton campaign, or excuse me, directed at the Clinton campaign, subsection one, GRU units target the Clinton campaign. Here we learned that two military units of the GRU carried out the hacking of the DNC, D-Triple C, and Hillary at her campaign, and those are 26165 and 74455. And the footnote here explains that in section 5, Mueller charged 12 GRU officers for the hacking crimes and cites the U.S. code and refers to that indictment that we think you should all read of the Russians. The report explains that Unit 26165 targets military, political, governmental, and non-governmental
Starting point is 00:09:40 organizations outside of Russia. And there's a footnote about how they hacked the US anti-doping agency, the World Anti-Doping Agency, and other international sport associations that were indicted in October 2018 for those crimes. And that probably had something to do with Russia being caught, doping for the Olympics, and they couldn't use their flag. Remember, they had to just have like, Olympians from Russia. Yeah, exactly. A very conspicuous name still. Yeah, just technically not rough. Jordan, my thing, you've seen the documentary about that, right?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah, Icarus is really good. It's a documentary that some guy does about the doping in the doping cover-up, at least. Yeah, I've got to watch it. It's so good. It's the first guy that flew too close to the sun. Yes, he is. Oh, look at me.
Starting point is 00:10:19 High school, coming back. Nice. Let's see, so this unit, 261,65, these this doping agency, half a fancy bear, they had subdivisions with different jobs. Like one would develop the malware while the other would conduct spearfishing campaigns. And spearfishing is when you send out an email
Starting point is 00:10:37 that looks like it's a legit like Google or Apple email and say, hey, you need to change your password and get them to click on the link and or your password, I get your password. So that's a spearfishing campaign. So that's what 26165 does. Then we get a redaction here about an investigative technique. In the sentence reads, redacted, redacted, a bitcoin mining operation to secure bitcoins
Starting point is 00:10:57 used to purchase computer infrastructure used in hacking operations. And I'll bet bitcoins to bagels. That's dollars to donuts. That probably illustrates how investigators were able to, you know, stake out and catch the Russians mining Bitcoin. But those are Bitcoin beans. Bitcoin beans. Yep. They all have Fedoras. Yeah. I bet when a Bitcoin first started, there's no way they thought of all the SPSN help facilitate it. Oh yeah. or maybe it was in their business plan And we just missed it. They were sketchy from the start unintended consequences. Yes. Hello Hillary in the crime bill
Starting point is 00:11:31 So definitely fake money real crimes. Yeah Sounds like a fake money real crimes. I like it money real crimes. What's that like jingle queen? So what's that Neil like, Jingle Queen. Hahaha. So what's that, Neil? Is that guy? Neil Diamond? No. No big coin. No of Crosby Stills Nash and Young.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Oh. Neil Young. I do his one above all. I'm not Neil Nash. It's not Neil Crosby. I have a quick question. Yes. I wonder if Bitcoin can be held accountable in any way for things like this in the future,
Starting point is 00:12:00 you know? Like, I know it's a pioneered space at the moment, but considering it's all online, I wonder if they'll ever be held more responsible for looking into the sorts of transactions that are happening on their platform. Who knows, maybe one of those appendix D, redacted, redacted, referred investigations is into Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah, that'd be great if we got some new laws regarding my kind of stuff out of this. And the one thing that kind of laughed, I laughed a little bit, isn't the plural of Bitcoin Bitcoin Yeah, cuz I know you had like I think so thousand Bitcoin. Yeah, you're right cuz he cuz mullers has bitcoins in here It reminds me of like when my mom says the MTV or something. Yeah, exactly. They're like, how many Mollies did you take? How many Mollies did you take? Oh gosh, that's good. Official, official coverage of the report. Mollies. So then, then we have this other unit, 744-55, which is a related GRU unit with a bunch of different departments that engage in cyber
Starting point is 00:13:03 operations, like assisting the release of Shit Stolen, coordinating the release of Shit Stolen by 26165, promoting those releases, promoting the publication of anti-clinton content on social media accounts operated by GRU through officers from 744-55. And they separately hacked computers belonging to state boards of elections,
Starting point is 00:13:24 secretaries of state and US companies that supplied software and other technology related to the administration of our elections. And so that's another thing that the 744-5 does. And we reported on these attacks quite a lot. These are the ones Mitch McConnell ignored. And the local and state election funding is the funding Trump never spent. Oh yeah. Although I think he had some federal funding too. Mm. So that's the introduction to 26165 and 744-55,
Starting point is 00:13:48 collectively known as fancy bear, I believe. That is an old- Sounds like a little prince. I know. Yeah. Look at little old fancy bear. The hacking group formerly known as a... How steep.
Starting point is 00:13:58 We're having to meet up with the fancy bears. Point Loma. That's not in the Mueller report, fancy bear. At least not yet. So far as far as we've gotten in this show here, but that's household name. Yeah, but that's what we've gathered from previous public reporting on these two GRU hacking and distribution units. Then on page 37, Mueller says beginning mid-March of 2016, 26165 had primary responsibility for hacking the D-Triple C in the DNC as well as Clinton campaign staffers' individual emails. And then it describes how they did it in two bullets.
Starting point is 00:14:31 First one says they used redacted to learn about redacted different Democratic websites, including Democrats.org, Hillary Clinton.com, DNC.org, and D-Triple C.org. Then another redacted sentence began before the GRU had obtained any credentials or gained any access, indicating that the latter, that the later D-TripleC and DNC intrusions were not crimes of opportunity, but resulted targeting. And so what this is basically saying is the redacted parts early on are just redacting how they were able to stake out, that Russia was staking out these websites to hack them. So it's this weird cyber stakeout.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I dig it. They're almost using their own strategies against them. I can't share it with the public because it's just so juicy. Right. And it also shows that because Russia was staking it out, they were casing the joint. It shows that it was not a crime of opportunity. It would be the difference between a guy noticing your front door was open when he walked by and stealing your television versus the guy who caces your house for a month to find out when you're not
Starting point is 00:15:33 there and breaks into steal everything. Yeah, it's premeditated for sure. Yeah, how about any hacking be a crime of opportunity to like, oh, I was just strolling through the cyber hood. The guy was in the back end of the website. Yeah I am through the dark web and I saw an open door. So I went into it and now all of a sudden my name is different. Yes. The side of the portal who's left a jar. The back door is a jar. These are probably the same technique used to observe the Russians mining Bitcoin, right,
Starting point is 00:16:00 to pay for their bitcoins. Yeah. Also, I just said cider, I think instead of cider. Cider? I just want you all to know that I don't think that the internet is a bunch of delicious apple juice. I think it is. I like cider espionage. Yeah. It'd be better if this were all about cider and not ciber terrorism. Cider terrorism would be really cute. But like hard cider terrorism. Oh. Then it would all disappear after the fall and that would be great. I'm going to stake out your taps at
Starting point is 00:16:24 the brewery. And I'm gonna espionage me some cider. I'm onto you. Espionage is a verb, right? I think so, it is now. Espionage, yeah, what? I don't know. As a verb?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah. I think it's a noun. Yeah, definitely a noun. How would it be turned into a verb? Oh, I'm espionaging. Yeah, yeah, like priming. Crimining. You can just add an ink. Yeah, yeah. That's the rule, definitely. I mean, I'm espionaging. Yeah. Yeah. Like climbing, climbing. Just add an ink. Yeah. That's the rule.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Definitely. I mean, that's probably how a Russian would say it. If they didn't speak English very well. Yeah. If you want to make kind of English, yeah, that's what you I was not. That's being a thing. Your honor. You're clearly not from here. Or you're clearly do not know how to do a Russian accent. Or you're on the podcast Mueller. She wrote where they just ended all with an I.M.G. and the second bullet describes how GRU officers sent hundreds of spearfishing emails so the spearfishing campaign
Starting point is 00:17:11 enabled the GRU to get access to numerous email accounts aside from Podesta they got volunteers assigned to Clinton campaigns advanced team informal campaign advisors it's an informal campaign advisor, like me? Yeah. And DNC employees, they stole tens of thousands of emails from them. And then on to page 38, Subsection 2, Intrusions into the D-Triple C and DNC, Sub-Subsection A, I'm gonna call it underpants A, because Sub-Subsection sounds really diminutive.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. And it's called, what, it's called initial access. All right, so here's the intrusions. Underpants A, initial access, page 38. This part of the report goes into details that no later than April 12, 2016, GRU got access to the D-Triple C network through spearfishing someone's credentials. They hung out in there for weeks,
Starting point is 00:18:02 traversing the network, identifying computers with unrestricted access because the credentials that they were able to steal were from an IT administrator who you'd think would know. Damn, how'd he get the job? Right? Higher me. Then they were able to compromise about 29 different machines from that operation. Yeah, I guess it also goes to show how brand new these strategies are in the cyber terrorism world.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's like spearfishing is something that many people can fall for because it's so damn stealthy. It looks so convincing. It looks, but it's not new. That's what I was going to say. Totally for normal people. Is it as old as 2016 or even further away? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:43 As soon as someone figured out how you could do that through email Basically, right now it's perfect. I guess is what it seems like it's popped up like I've been early. Well the government governments like the Russia government or the Russian government of the United States government tend not to use the most high-tech software when I went to work for the government in 2007 I had the pleasure of walking into a book dummies. What was it? Windows 95 for dummies in 2007.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Damn, I missed that. That's the best Windows program. I actually know 95 I remember. Windows 95, best operating system. But you know, so are you booing? Honestly, this is probably old junky technology. Like with their external that they use and all that stuff that we'll get into in a minute and the raw.. Honestly, this is probably old junky technology. Like, would there X tunnel that they use and all that stuff that we'll get into in a minute
Starting point is 00:19:26 and the RAR.exe, that's probably all old shit. Damn, we're just so behind. And they've been focusing on this, like for the last 30 years when we thought we wanted the cold war. Yeah, but they put out like this whole new cyber espionage, this is how we're gonna win the World War four, it came out in, I think a memo that somebody in the GRU,
Starting point is 00:19:44 the general wrote in 2013, we read about it in Russian rule that. Yeah, I remember that actually was the whole speech they did too. Yeah, totally. So then six days after that, after they got in, compromised 29 machines at the D-Triple C, they gained access to the DNC network using a VPN connection between the D-Triple C and the DNC,
Starting point is 00:20:01 way to build a firewall, Democrats. So Democrats can't take either. Networks, so unit 26165, they were able to compromise more than 30 DNC machines, including the male server and the shared file server, big ones, and they did that in about three weeks. They found a VPN that connected the two networks. Oh my god, that's, I can't end it just. Yeah, that's crazy
Starting point is 00:20:26 Then underpants B Called implantation of malware so they have the access now. They're now they're gonna lay their eggs And they use two types of software malware to do this called x agent and x tunnel They also had Mimi cats, which is a credential harvesting tool and Mimi cats come here kitty Mimi Katz, which is a credential harvesting tool, and Mimi Katz Kamikidee. And raw.exe. All of these names are just entirely proof that only trolls do all this. Shoot. It's fancy bear, Mimi Kat, and raw.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah. Come on. Yeah. And raw is a tool that compresses for X-Felix. Right, right. Makes it small. Also, a cute little sound that Mimi Katz make. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yeah. So think of raw.exe as those vacuum sealed bags. It's like going, steel bunch close. Yep, and then you zip it nice and... So you lay the X tunnel down, and then you go in with X agent, you break in with X agent, then you use Mimi cats to get all the data,
Starting point is 00:21:19 and then you use a vacuum bag to seal it all and make it tiny, and then you stick it through the X tunnel to get it out. Yeah, that could be an inf an informational. I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen that. Act now. Totally. So anyway, that's X tunnel is a hacking tool, like I said, that created the encrypted connection between the victim, detriple C and DNC machines and the GRU computers. That's the tunnel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And it allows for like large data transfers. So the GRU used X tunnel as the exit route. And again, RAR compressed it all for transport. I also think a little human synipede reference, but that's probably not the best example for this. It's just like all the elements are there. Yeah, it's just one tunnel, though. On the page of that way, human synipede is good.
Starting point is 00:22:02 That's pretty much it. Well, you're creating one out. One out of many, Iploribus unum tunnel. Why did they let someone know that? I don't think that should have been allowed to be made. I know freedom of speech. I'm glad they did. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:14 Oh, that movie? Yeah. That and Tusk. And I was just going to say, that shit's brilliant because then everyone's talking about it and referencing it. True, here we are. It's a simple concept. Put some filth in it.
Starting point is 00:22:23 American slough that shit. So fucking gross. It just can't even, ooh, now you have tusk. And what a weird movie. But you know, that is Nightmare-ish to be like, go to, as a journalist to go to report somebody and then he drugs you and removes your legs and turns you into a walrus.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, yeah, it's freaky. Anyway, that's X Tunnel. So, on to page 39, where Mueller says that to operate X agent and X Tunnel. So on to page 39 where Mueller says that to operate X agent and X Tunnel, 26165 set up a group of computers to communicate with the implanted malware. The first set known as the middle servers, one simply does not just walk into the middle servers. Sent received messages to and from malware on the networks.
Starting point is 00:23:01 The middle servers then sent messages to a secondary set of computers called the AMS panel, which served as the nerve center, through which the GRU would monitor and direct the malware operation, probably the Mimicat stuff on the networks. Then there's an interesting footnote. Number 126 says, quote, in connection with these intrusions, GRU used computers that at least from third party providers located all over the world. And Mueller found rental agreements and payments for computers located among other places redacted.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Now this red action says it's for investigative techniques. So first I thought this might have read Mueller found rental agreements and payments for computers in Prague, but I think I was using my jump into conclusions mat on that one because I feel like that would be redacted because of an open and ongoing matter. So I really can't guess what this is about other than, you know, maybe that's another way that they were staking them out. You know, how did the how did the molar learn that these rental agreements and computers and like interstitial computers were being rented in these, you know, third party countries.
Starting point is 00:24:04 So he knew how to find that out. He's probably got a way to do it in two seconds. Yeah, maybe there's a person that's trying not to reveal that was like or a technique. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So I'm triangulation of data. Yeah, you just smell it.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah, yeah. Just go around the trees and smell wires. This one smells like Russia. I don't know what Russia smells like. Yeah, it gets a beautiful this time. I'm just amazed at what technology can do. It's crazy that they can achieve this. Yeah, and I'd be really interested to see
Starting point is 00:24:36 whether the FBI's technology is super advanced or really clunky and they just get lucky. Yeah, I wonder. I bet it's super advanced at that level. I hope so. Part of me too, yeah, you would hope so. But I've also, and please. They can't even crack Apple iPhones.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. They can't. Oh, they don't want you to think they can. They can't. Someone cracked me if I'm wrong, please. Listeners or the two people sitting next to me right now. But I feel like more basic systems, while they're more basic,
Starting point is 00:25:01 and there's definitely downsides to that, they're also harder to hack into, right? That's very true. I think that's why a lot of people use Linux or DOS. There's fewer moving parts. And so it's easier to secure. Yes, that's ports of entry. Because where you've got all these user interfaces,
Starting point is 00:25:15 stacked on top of user interfaces, each one that's there, and within each interface, in between each interface, you've got all these vulnerabilities. Totally. It's like moving parts, right? Yeah, exactly. So I have Volkswagen so much from the 60s, it's so much easier to fix than my Sion.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, that's why a house has like one door at max two. Why is your house have walls, huh? You're gonna let all the immigrants in? Let's see, where are we? Page 39 now. It says the AMS panel used to control X agent was housed in least on a computer located near Redacted Arizona. That was a town of the play.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I bet there is somewhere. I bet there is. We want to forget about ourselves. And then just don't even come here. Did they blow for Trump? Redacted Arizona. I'm sure. Yeah, that's what's interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:04 There's definitely like an A&E show or like that focuses on people off the grid there. Trump fully got all the redacted, yeah. Nice. Electoral votes from from redacted Arizona. Yeah. And then the whole rest of the page is redacted. And the footnotes are the redactions referencing the GRU hacking indictment, and it's all redacted for investigative techniques. So it's just more stuff that they know how to do that they don't want anyone to know that they know how to do it. Then on page 40 it continues saying the Arizona-based panel also stored thousands of files with key logging sessions captured by X agent that include passwords, international communications between employees, banking information, and sensitive personal information. Then on to underpants C. So we've got the initial access, then we've got the lay on the eggs, and now the theft.
Starting point is 00:26:51 So many underpants. Lots of layers. Yeah, and this basically outlines how they stole 26165,000s of documents, including internal strategy documents, fundraising data, opposition research, and emails from the inboxes of DNC employees, right? They began stealing pretty much right away within three days of initial access. They downloaded their RAR.exe compression malware. And the next day, they searched a compromised machine for key terms like Hillary, DNC,
Starting point is 00:27:16 Cruise, and Trump. All right. On April 25th, they collected and compressed the data. Mueller says the GRU compressed an X-Filtrated over 70 gigs from that file server. Do you think Cruz was in there because that's who they thought was Trump's biggest contender? Yep. So they were getting Oppo research on Cruz, Oppo research on Trump, and then whatever they could find on Hillary. Yeah, I hate that he gets that much credit.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Right. My Inted Cruz. I forgot his slogan already. Remember jab, jab was solid. But like, what was Cruz's slogan? What was jab slogan? Jab. It was just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:49 With an exclamation, it was just slogan. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember what his campaign's like on us Cruz? Cruz, no. I don't remember either. Just Cruz and Dundas Odeot Killer. If you were gonna do jab versus Cruz, Cruz makes way more sense.
Starting point is 00:28:01 It does. Why didn't it, it was just a verb. Yeah, it's his name. Just go for it. Totally. Cruz, people makes way more sense. It does. Why didn't he just... Yeah, his name just go for it. Totally. Cruz people all suck. Yeah. All right, so same story for the DNC, by the way. Russians began stealing stuff as early as April 22nd.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Copying files from the DNC control computers, including the DNC's APO research on Trump, which right there makes him compromised, end of story. And I'm sure that the counterintelligence, you know, 40 co-located FBI agents that were taking all the counterintelligence stuff were like, oh, fuck, and they immediately wrote up
Starting point is 00:28:37 a giant report sent that to headquarters, HQ, FBI HQ, because now Russia has opposition research on Trump. But as we know, the entire counterintelligence investigation appears to be missing, as Matt I would say, it's gone walkies. This is the one McCabe set up in such a way so as not to allow it to disappear quietly or at least without a paper trail. We just don't know where it is. I asked McCabe, he's like, I don't know, man,
Starting point is 00:29:05 shift threatened to hold bar and contempt for not handing over the counterintelligence information this week, or last week, and bar caved, and hearings on counterintelligence begin next week in the house. Apparently, the Department of Justice has started handing over counterintelligence information. That's really interesting to me. I wonder if the offer of that information by the Justice Department, because basically what Barr did is he said, please don't hold me in contempt. I'll give you some counterintelligence stuff. And they were like, no, we're going to help you in contempt. He's like, okay, okay, I'll give it to you. I'm stuck in a total nine-year-old moment. But I wonder if him
Starting point is 00:29:39 offering that information to Congress destroys their argument that Congress legally doesn't get to have it. Right. Because they've offered it to them now in exchange for stopping the contempt vote. So how can Bar argue? It's illegal for the committee to have that information. They might have shot themselves in the foot legally. Not literally, that would be Dick Cheney and the face. Then between May 25 and June 1st, they access the DNC's mail server from a GRU control computer at least in the US. And during those connections, 261,65 stole thousands of emails, which were later released by WikiLeaks.
Starting point is 00:30:13 That's when that was stolen between May 25th and June 1st and they were released in July. So they held onto them for quite a while, which is, again, just proof of the weaponizing the timing of the releases. On page 41, part B, dissemination of the hack materials, this is how the GRU first used DC leaks and Gujuffer to disseminate their stolen documents. We know most of this from public reporting. 26165botDClix.com using Bitcoin, and that's where they housed the stolen material. Most of the documents on DC leaks seem to be from emails and not the DNC and DEECC server and networks.
Starting point is 00:30:46 They also set up a Facebook DC leaks page, invited maybe I always think Marvel versus DC and it's a mail account. And a Gmail account, they set up a Gmail account too and a Twitter account. Russia used these personas to give US media access to their archives by sending them links and passwords. DC leaks was shut down. March 2017, it took that long. Wow. Who the hell would trust them sending you a log in to something? Like, yeah, but if you're a reporter, you're going to go look at it.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yeah. I guess so. I would just assume everything, yeah, that they didn't know what was going on at the time, but. No, or even if a Russian sends you a link to stolen Hillary emails and you're a journalist, that's what you do, you go in, you get it, you publish it. And that's why they shouldn't be able to be charged for S.P. and Oj for that. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I guess I would assume that maybe given the nature of all of the timing, they would think, I'm sure they did think about it, I'm sure it wasn't like, okay, and then they just do it immediately, I'm sure they looked into some of the other events that were happening around the time and made a cost-benefit analysis.
Starting point is 00:31:49 But what I would have done is I would have published the stuff because it's news, and then I would have alerted the authorities. Yeah. Or probably in the reverse order. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, probably the other order. I was gonna say, yeah, if you do it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:01 It's always better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Oh, yeah. Number one rule I learned in the Navy. Yeah. Then there's Gucci for 2.0, which is pronounced Gucci for because it's a combination of Gucci and Lucifer I thought I could say goose a verb, but yeah, yeah, I like Prada. It's a Prada and God Prada That sounds gross So GRU officers created Gucci for 2.0. It's not a Romanian. Using a word press blog and published it first, it's published its first post attributing the DNC hack to again
Starting point is 00:32:34 a lone Romanian hacker and using words and phrases like illuminati and worldwide known, which they had Googled right before then and Muller had the evidence of that. It seems like they Googled what are conspiracy theory words. Wow. Because they know conspiracy theorists are gullible, right? And this is the same day, Gucci for 2.0 began releasing stolen documents, same day, from DNC and D-Triple C. Damn. The GRU also used Gucci for 2.0 to release documents directly
Starting point is 00:32:59 to reporters. And then we remember this, when Gucci for 2.0 transferred about 2.5 gigabytes of Florida-related data stolen from the D-Triple C to a US blogger covering Florida politics. I do remember when that happened. We reported on it was like episode 19 or something. On page 44 Mueller says the GRU was in contact through the Gucci for Persona with redacted. A former Trump campaign member redacted. It's all redacted for harm doing ongoing matter. I'm going to go ahead and say this is stone. He's just like an umbrella for all these redactes. He's the catch all. Then on to... I love that shit and I hate it.
Starting point is 00:33:37 He does. Then he's like, I'm not famous for it. But then he's like, I'm so famous. Like, I mentioned in the indictment. And then he tries to argue to get himself unrelated to the Russian indictment because he doesn't want Judge Jackson. And she's like, no, no, no, you can't have it both. You can't go around bragging that you're connected to this and then come around and say, I'm not famous enough to be connected.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Exactly, yeah, it would make more sense if he had like split personality disorder, but I think it's just their strategy. They're just like deflating and inflating their assets and then like claiming their famous, but really I'm not famous. Yeah, it's a huge one giant piece of shit person. Yeah, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Then onto the use of WikiLeaks. And we know that setting up your own dissemination network isn't as effective as using an existing infrastructure that has massive recognition. And here Mueller establishes this and that Assange hated Hillary and the Democrats. And in March of 2016, WikiLeaks released a searchable archive of 30,000 Clinton emails obtained during a FOIA request. So GRU, and that's another argument you could use in the Assange espionage case, if that media outlet WikiLeaks is able to make successful FOIA requests that strengthens and emboldens their justification or their
Starting point is 00:34:46 characterization of being a legitimate media outlet, even though you don't have to be a media outlet to get a FOIA request. For some way, it's like a one-way route for them. I don't know why it works that way, but it does. But like any citizen could do that. Yeah. I could get a FOIA request if I wanted to. Well, I guess we're part of a journalistic media outlet, so to speak, but I mean I-
Starting point is 00:35:04 You have to be a US citizen though, right or no Can you be a global citizen? I don't know. That's a good question. A global citizen. Yeah, alien alien comes and requests it like, no, I'm sorry. I'm an air to the inner seller guys are like, hmm, we Like fine. We already knew the answer. We just wanted to see what you'd say. Sorry, I can't read this language, but I can see what's happening tomorrow. Oh, so anyway, they got the 30,000 emails obtained
Starting point is 00:35:31 during the FOIA request. So GR, you reached out and said, hey, yo, you got Dirt on Hillary, yo, we got Dirt on Hillary, yo, let's do this together, yo. And finally enough, WikiLeaks reached out to Gucci for after it published, it shit on Clinton saying, hey, want help, hey, we're WikiLeaks, we can get it to a water audience I like that wiki leagues hey hey that's my that's their slogan nice wiki leagues hey then on July 6th wiki leagues contacted Gucci for again saying
Starting point is 00:35:57 hey if you got anything on Hillary we want it in the next two days because the DNC is approaching that's a democratic national convention is approaching and she will solidify Bernie supporters behind her. We think Trump only has a 25% chance of winning against Hillary, so a conflict between Hillary and Bernie could be interesting. Yeah, the Bernie or best people, Bernie bros, yeah. Big beans.
Starting point is 00:36:17 This confirms Russia used Bernie to split the Democratic electorate and they were strategically timing the dumps as well. That's so interesting though, sorry to interrupt, but the theory was that like so many people repeat this theory that if it was Bernie against Trump, he would have won. So to know that their figures were that she was much more
Starting point is 00:36:32 likely to win against him. Mm-hmm. Might have been part of the propaganda. Yeah, probably. To tell Bernie supporters that Bernie would be Trump or and then afterwards as well. Because knowing Bernie was probably gonna run again. Yeah, I think there are some merit to that argument, though,
Starting point is 00:36:45 just on the basis of it being a populist year. Oh, Bernie was there. That's fair. Yeah, so I'm surprised that they said Trump only had, I mean, who knows, maybe Trump only had a 5% chance of winning a field against Bernie, that would have been their figure. Good point, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And just because the Russians say it, doesn't mean it's a lie. Yeah. They're just promoting it to make you think these things. Now a lot of it is, there are a lot of lies. There's a lot of not true things, but whatever helps her agenda, whether it's factor,
Starting point is 00:37:12 exactly why they'll use it. Yeah, and so the point isn't so much, did the Russians make us believe a lie? As much as did the Russians interfere in our fucking election? Yeah. By appealing to our individual psychographic natures, which they use that whole siop, some black cube and XAML and the August 3rd meeting to find out through
Starting point is 00:37:30 Facebook with all that stolen data. Yep. Thanks, guys. Then Mueller talks about the GRU transferring the stolen material to WikiLeaks and opens up this section saying both sought to hide their communications, which has limited this office's ability to collect all of the communications between them. Thus, quote, although it is clear that the stolen DNC and Podesta documents were transferred from GRU to WikiLeaks, then the rest of the sentence is redacted. Probably what it says is that we couldn't find that connective tissue because they were
Starting point is 00:38:01 unable to track the transfer. Because later on, it says that the GRU used a good to for mail to send WikiLeaks an email with a subject big archive, new attempt with an encrypted attachment. So new attempt, who does? New attempt, who does? Yeah, new bear. I'm not fancy bear.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I'm just regular little bear now. So, you know, maybe that redacted bit is saying because of the encryptions, we can't establish these emails Nancy Bear. I'm just regular little bear now. So maybe that redacted bit is saying because of the encryption, we can't establish these emails we're used or exactly how the documents got from GRU to WikiLeaks, but we know they did. I don't know why that's redacted there for, I think it's redacted, let me see, I'm able to track transfer investigative technique. Interesting. Yeah, I got this is a dark, let me see, I'm able to track transfer investigative technique. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah, I get it with their strategies. Yeah, it's probably like here's an investigative technique we use that failed. Oh. Or we tried to use this usually successful and we couldn't because they encrypted and hid their communities. And they still don't want to reveal it
Starting point is 00:38:59 because they'll make them vulnerable, even if they failed. It's still something that we probably will try again. The criminals? Well, I thought they, oh yeah, they have to be, oh yeah, yeah, no, they failed. It's still something that may probably will try again. The criminals? Well, I thought they, oh yeah, they have to be, yeah, yeah. No, they don't want to let anybody know that we know how to catch you if you're not trying to hide so hard,
Starting point is 00:39:11 or they probably are trying to say, you know, we don't want you to know that our technique can be foiled by you in cryptic your communications. That would make more sense. Yeah. Either way, it's probably got some to do with that. And then Mueller goes on to describe all the email back and forth and site's Twitter communications and concludes saying that the office cannot rule out that the stolen documents were transferred
Starting point is 00:39:35 to Wiki through intermediaries who visited during the summer of 2016. For example, public reporting identified Andrew Muller-Mogoon. I just love that name. Andrew Muller-Magoon, hi. And WikiLeaks associate who may have assisted with the transfer of these stolen documents. And remember, we have recent reporting that Russian hacking operation hubs were found in Prague, and that one of Cohen's cell phones was around Prague in the summer of 2016. Yeah, just visit, just on vacation. But most of these redactions in the section
Starting point is 00:40:05 are for investigative techniques, so I could be way off on that. It's not an ongoing matter. But Cohen's already a closed matter. It just might still be redacted. I used to want to make a movie where Cohen takes Prague, but now I just wanted to be his phone. It's just that the movie poster is just his phone in Prague. But it's got like his hair and a bad jacket.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah, and umbrella for some reason. And that's how you know it's a nice hat. For Doran some bright plaid 70s coat, cool bro, cool story. And then you know you can have a man of four at phone with an ostrich jacket on. Ooh, yeah we'll just do a whole thing. I like it, let me do a whole series of old flip phones with shitty jackets. Yeah, I did get like a drug dealer phone. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:44 The burners from cricket. That would hurt. That would hurt your mom has. Yeah, I did get like a drug dealer phone. Yeah, yeah. The burners from cricket. That would hurt her though, kind of. Your mom has. Yeah, I see. Not your mom. Your mom's a badass. She still can't text. Or she won't.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I think I texted her one time. And she just every time I do, she immediately calls me. And it's like, don't do that. No. She wants a phone call. It's pretty great. That's sweet. I think she just doesn't like triple typing.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Because she's on that old fucking flip phone. Mom's can't take it. No, she cannot. On to page 48, Mueller sums up the dissemination of hack materials saying October 7th, WikiLeaks released the Podesta emails and in total, they released 33 tranches of stolen emails between then and November 7th. That's one month leading up to the election, including private speeches given by Clinton, international communications between Podesta and other high ranking members of the campaign, and correspondence related to the Clinton Foundation. Isn't a private speech just a conversation? I think what they're talking about are, remember where she did that golden sack speech?
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah, we should get to pay to fuck down the way. Yeah, I'm just kidding. And we all had those, too. We were like, oh, look at her. Behold into Wall Street. Yep. In total, WikiLeaks released over 50,000 documents stolen just from Podesta's email account alone.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Then we get to the disinformation campaign launched by WikiLeaks, where Assange blames murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich for being the source of the leaks, not Russia stealing Seth, Stoll, and leaked. And this story is really tragic because Assange started all these rumors that were then amplified by Russia that Rich was murdered by Hillary for leaking stolen material to WikiLeaks. Assange continued this nut job bullshit rumor even after the US intelligence agencies determined Russia hacked the DNC and we have all this proof.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Read those, well you don't have to, but I wish some Trump supporters would read those Russia indictments. Mueller doesn't go into any U.S. persons retweeting or continuing the Seth Rich conspiracy, though he simply does discuss the origins of the rumors as being a sange. Just good to know, at least. Section C, additional GRU cyber operations, and this is mostly peripheral targets and victims of Russia hacking including that within five hours of Trump saying Russia, if you're listening, I hope you could find the 30,000 emails through missing.
Starting point is 00:42:53 GRU offers, and I don't think he quotes that, and Mueller doesn't quote that in the report he knows that we know he's talking about. He asked for them and we just know what that is. Yeah, yeah. GRU officers targeted Clinton's personal office with an hours by sending spearfishing emails, targeting 15 email accounts and redacted domain and a redacted Clinton aid.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And this is a very important sentence. He says, quote, the investigation did not find evidence of earlier GRU attempts to compromise accounts hosted on this domain. It is unclear how the GRU was able to identify these email accounts, which were not public. And there's a footnote for that sentence, but is redacted for investigative techniques.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And here we go again, because basically what they're saying is our stakeout to find out what they were looking at didn't work, because these were all new, and they've never seen them before, and we didn't know they were coming, or we can't go back and see how they got them. So we want you to know that basically we don't want to reveal our investigative techniques sucks for that.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, it makes sense. This section also talks about the GRU hacking and stealing 300 gigabytes of data from the DNC cloud-based account. I cloud, find my phone. Bragg. Then part two of other GRU ops. It's part two is called other GRU ops and it covers the intrusions targeting targeting the administration of US elections. This is to say the US state and local entities, state boards of election, secretaries of state and county
Starting point is 00:44:19 governments along with individuals employed by those entities. They also went after private tech firms such as voter registration software, and electronic polling stations, polling stations. That's insane. And that's why Jennifer Cohn is so big about the hand-marked paper ballots. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:34 We have to have an auditable trail. Yeah, and that shouldn't be privatized. Also, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, what's the government gonna build them? Put Windows 95 on them? Yeah, damn. It just makes it harder on them, clearly,
Starting point is 00:44:46 because it's other unregulated entities that are doing these things that can be hacked and affect the public's fear, which is just higher Sweden to make them. Yeah, I like the Swedish. A nice and neutral. Yeah, that's true. I guess, well, if they have government contracts,
Starting point is 00:45:00 which I imagine they do, even other private firms, they would have some sort of regulation over them, but it doesn't sound like they do. Yeah, but there's also probably some rule that that would be somehow a foreign entity Being part of our elections Yeah, that it goes both ways I guess. Oh, yeah. No, I was just talking about domestic private. Oh, right So then get this Mueller says while he knows Russians attacked polling stations and voter rolls. He did not investigate that Well, he knows Russians attacked polling stations and voter rolls. He did not investigate that. The office, quote, understands that the FBI, the US Department of Homeland Security and the states have separately investigated that activity.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So he left it up to fucking Kirsten Jill or Kirsten, what's her name? Nielsen. Nielsen, yeah. The FBI under, you know, Trump and the states, uh... i thought muller was looking into whether not rush a successful manipulated the actual vote and he did not it's not part of it uh... we do know the fby's questioning or has has questioned to santa since and rick's got a florida who denied they were hacked and have found out recently two counties including washington county and florida were breached my god but to santa's claims he knows nothing
Starting point is 00:46:03 about it the fby won't tell us which counties were hacked. And the governor says the FBI made him sign an NDA saying he wasn't allowed to say. And if the victims being the counties, not the voters wanted to disclose themselves, they could. Keep in mind, because of the shame, like, I don't want to out the voters is hacked. I guess, or, yeah, I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And he's calling them hacks. I don't know. It's supposed to be like a bad thing. Yeah, it's dumb. He's dumb. But the DeSantis is, but keep in mind, this is Trump's FBI, like I said, under bar now. Letting slip, which counties were hacked and how
Starting point is 00:46:35 wouldn't be good for them considering they probably need these illegal activities to win 2020. We already know that the Trump campaign welcomed Russian interference and is that's outlined in this report. So there's no reason to think they wouldn't welcome it again if not encourage it. Then the GRU found vulnerabilities in more than two dozen state board of election websites
Starting point is 00:46:54 and were able to gain access to millions of registered voters. Mueller uses Illinois as one example where the GRU got access to information on millions of Illinois voters and was able to extract that data for thousands of US voters before the malicious activity was even identified. Finally, Mueller talks about the voter roles and how 7, 4, 4, 5, 5 spearfished its way into accounts used by Florida County officials responsible for administering the election. The emails contained a Trojan virus and Mueller tells us here that the FBI separately is separately investigating that and says he believes the operation enabled the GRU to gain access to the network of at least one Florida County government, Washington County.
Starting point is 00:47:30 The officials, quote, the officials did not verify that as explained above. We did not undertake the investigational steps or investigative steps that would have been necessary to do so. Wow. I mean, I get that. He did a lot of research that's useful and super important, but he really passed a lot on to Congress and these other investigations like more than I even realized. Yeah, he kept his scope very, very narrow and that may have been also, I don't know, I saw some of the jurisdiction memos or the scope memos from Rosenstein that might have been by design because member Rosenstein promised he'd land the plane.
Starting point is 00:48:04 So maybe he narrowed it, you know, squawzum. Well, maybe he knew that they were going to shut him down prematurely so he had to pass the book for all these things. No, this passed on earlier. I like it playing it. But, yeah, it's, who knows. I mean, we're probably never known. Keep my head alive.
Starting point is 00:48:16 All right, on to page 52, part D, Trump campaign and the dissemination of hack materials. And this where it gets juicy, but it's also where it's pretty much all redacted for harm to an ongoing matter and sexy grand jury stuff. But there's only a little bit of that. So allow me to read this part. Quote, the Trump campaign showed interest in WikiLeaks release of hack materials throughout the summer and fall of 2016. Then there's a redacted paragraph.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Part one, redacted. Section A, background, redacted. Section B, contacts with the campaign about WikiLeaks, redacted. Then we get on June 12th, a Sons claimed in a television interview to have emails relating to Clinton, which were pending publication, but provided no other context. In debriefings with the Mueller team, former deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates said that redacted paragraph. Why would something associated with Rick Gates be part of an ongoing matter and have to
Starting point is 00:49:06 do with WikiLeaks? Well, if you remember, and we have reported that there have been, and there also have been public reports, not just us. We didn't scoop this, but including the Stone indictment says this as well, that the Trump campaign official was, there was a Trump campaign, the campaign official directed to talk with Stone about further wiki leaks releases and stone said He thought it was Rick Gates, but then stone says Gates is lying I never spoke with him about this matter. I never spoke to Rick Gates
Starting point is 00:49:31 But I'm mindful of the special counsel's ability to induce people to say things that aren't true Particularly people seeking a reduction in their sentence. It's a piece of crap. I know such a dick Two weeks ago we put beans on gates being involved in the ongoing stone matter. And then we learned in gates is most recent sentencing hearing that he is, in fact, a witness in the stone trial, along with the Greg Craig trial. And in every gates sentencing hearing up until recently, he's been postponed five times.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I think this is the sixth time they've postponed it. They push back a sentencing due to cooperation and two ongoing matters, but those were redacted. But now the Mueller report is out, so they feel free to say, it's these two things. It's Gregory Craig and the Stone trial. And Greg Craig's trial begins in August and Stone is November 5th.
Starting point is 00:50:15 So whoo, we'll keep a look out for that. And then another redacted paragraph. And then it goes on to say, Gates recalled Trump being generally frustrated that the Clinton emails had not been found. Paul Manafort, who would later become campaign chairman, paragraph redacted here. And the footnote for that information is redacted as grand jury material. This is probably part where Manafort told Gates to tell Stone to reach out to WikiLeaks. Yeah, that's part of the ongoing Stone matter as well as the gate stuff. Maybe
Starting point is 00:50:42 something useful we got out of Manafort. Hey, how's Rikers? Yeah. And we get into Cohen, who told Mueller that he recalled an incident where he was in Trump's office in Trump Tower and paragraph redacted. Cohen also told the office that after a WikiLeaks release in July 2016, Trump said something to the effect of redacted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I think we know what these are now. Yeah, but Coach Cliffhanger. From the Cohen files, right? Yeah. I think what happened was he was in the office of Trump Tower and Trump had said something about the emails and a meeting. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And then also for the Trump said something to the effect of WikiLeaks. I love WikiLeaks. We need more stuff for some shit like that. Oh, that's right, yeah. Now Cohen's matters over. So this could be a stone stuff Who knows Trump could be implicated in that trial? We know
Starting point is 00:51:30 But then we have another redacted sentence followed by gates telling Mueller that Manafort was excited about the release of redacted The release of Star Wars I loved you gamma thrones didn't I Star Wars? Yeah, I find and then Manafort told Mueller that shortly after the July 22nd release from WikiLeaks I loved you, Gamma Throne's a nice star wars, and high five. And then Manifort told Mueller that shortly after the July 22 release from WikiLeaks, he spoke to Trump and redacted. Manifort also redacted, wanted to be kept apprised of any developments with WikiLeaks, and separately told Gates to keep in touch with redacted about future releases.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So there you go. Manifort told Gates to keep in touch with Stone and WikiLeaks, right? And also a Columnic could be in here too, because if you remember the polling data situation, Gates was the one who was continuing to spill those beans. Gates then told Muller that by the end of summer 2016, they were planning the possible release of Clinton emails by WikiLeaks, and then a redacted sentence, and then it says while Trump and Gates were driving to LaGuardia, redacted, redacted.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And then shortly after the call, Trump told Gates that more releases of information would be coming. So somebody called Trump and said, more WikiLeaks is coming. And then he told, who did he tell Gates? No, yeah, right after that, yep, told Gates. Sit right next to him in the car. Hey, just got off the phone with Redacted,
Starting point is 00:52:47 there's more WikiLeaks dumps coming. Stoned. Totally stoned. This is insane. So Trump got a call from someone directly. Yeah, and so there's all that. And we have a couple of Redacted paragraphs on page 54 with a little blip in the middle that says,
Starting point is 00:53:03 Corsi is an author who holds a doctorate in political science. In 2016, of course, he also worked for the media outlet, World Net Daily, WND. Not M-D, but N-D. I'm not sure. Also, Mark C. End of the World probably. That publication.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Weapons and N-Distruction. Then a bunch more redactions. And then another blip says, of course he told the office, Mueller's office, during the interviews, that he must have previously discussed a sange with Malik. But Malik, then there's a grand jury reduction followed by according to Malik,
Starting point is 00:53:31 which means Malik spoke to the grand jury. And of course he asked him to put him in touch with a sange, right? Malik recalled Korsi suggesting that individuals in the orbit of Nigel Farage might be able to contact a sange on his behalf and asked Malik, hey buddy, do you know them? Malik, you know Farage, can you get me the hookup to WikiLeaks?
Starting point is 00:53:51 Malik said he'd think about it, but never made the attempt to connect Korsi with a Sange. Being's come true, as we reported last November, Malik was asked by Korsi to put him in touch with a Sange, and it also came out in the draft plea agreement that Korsi gave to the press. Yeah, that backfired a sange, and it also came out in the draft plea agreement that Corsi gave to the press. Yeah, that backfired a little bit, that said he rejected, you know, because I don't want to do the plea agreement, he's told me to lie.
Starting point is 00:54:13 To date, Corsi has not been indicted or signed another plea agreement that we know of. He is, however, suing Muller, the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, and the NSA, for a bunch of nonsense, including accusing Muller of forcing him to provide false testimony. Yeah, yeah, put your crazy and multiple baskets, right? Yeah, yeah, spread it out. Diversify. I'm certain that case will be dismissed, but as of this recording, it's still ongoing.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And to me, you know what this sounds like? This just sounds like, Corsi heard Trump say, help me get the emails from WikiLeaks. And Corsi's trying his best with his lame ass friends to like get into WikiLeaks. And everyone's like, I'm out of here, dude. F you and I. He can't sit with this, man. And yeah, yeah, you can't sit with us.
Starting point is 00:54:54 You can't wear hoops. And he's like, come on man, just help me out. I know these guys. Hey, Matt, hey Ted Malik, do you think you can get it from Farage to give me up with WikiLeaks? Sleeping all these paper trails for nothing. Yeah. I feel like you think, I'm going to put you in touch with the head of, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:10 the head of collusion. Yeah, I think you are. So that you can go back down to talk to a Sons, Stone's already got this. Yeah, they were, yeah. Yeah, and this is kind of born out because Malik and Corsi had a couple of FaceTime discussions yet. And then there's a redacted part said, then then followed up by the sentence, had made a connection to a Sange and the hacked emails of Podesta would be
Starting point is 00:55:32 released prior to the election day, and it would be helpful to Trump. And that's stone. And in a conversation in August or September 2016, Corsi told Malik that the release of the Podesta emails was going to put us in the driver's seat. We was gonna put us in the driver's seat. We're gonna be in the driver's seat. Oh, I see. Like he had anything to do with it. Yeah, yeah. And then the rest of the page and the entire next page are redacted, but on page 58, the
Starting point is 00:55:52 report briefly mentions the access Hollywood video and that less than an hour later, WikiLeaks released the stolen Podesta emails. Then there's a couple of redacted paragraphs followed by, of course, he said that because he had no direct means of communicating with wiki leagues He told members of the news site wnd to reach a sange so now he's going to his old buddies at the world network news Dickheads or whatever wnd stands for it's I've already scrolled past it. Hey, can you get me? Can I get you know? You can you ask him out for me?
Starting point is 00:56:22 And they're like out of here and then then, politically, yes or no, maybe. And of course, he actually claimed to Mueller that the pressure was enormous and recalled telling WND that the access Hollywood tape was coming. Of course, he told him he was sure that his efforts were the ones that caused WikiLeaks to release the emails when they did.
Starting point is 00:56:41 But Mueller found that of course, he was making that shit up. And he was unable to find that of course, he was the one who got wiki leaks to dump within an hour of the access Hollywood tape. I think this is just saying it wasn't of course it was stone. A footnote even says that of course he told Mueller maybe one of his tweets is what got wiki leaks to release the emails, but Mueller went and he couldn't find any tweets. There were no tweets.
Starting point is 00:56:59 That's great. These people must have been so miserable as teenage boys, just so fucking insecure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, to be around because they just want the boys. Just so fucking insecure and awful. Yeah, to be around, because they just want the credit. They so badly just want to be so relevant. Yeah, and they don't even earn the credit they want. It's so ridiculous. They're like, no, that was me. I did it.
Starting point is 00:57:15 And then they're going to have all this shit in wreak havoc now and sue all of the intelligence agencies for them investigating you for doing something you were trying to do, but are too stupid and un- Consequential to actually do yeah, and not only that but like I'm just telling you to say that it had nothing to do with you and then you're telling me I'm forcing you to lie Mm-hmm, right like I think like bored privilege people will be the death of us I'm trying to make you come out and say you didn't have sex with Angela in the ninth grade Yeah, and you're insisting that you did even though Angela doesn't even know who you are.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And now you're suing me because you're trying to get me to lie, or I'm trying to get you to lie about not having slept with somebody. Like, could you imagine suing the cop or the lawyer that was trying to prosecute you? Like, if they were muller, like they must really either think he's a shitty guy, or they feel so privileged that they're like, I can just do this because it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I'm that rich, I'm that important. It's like just the audacity alone drives me crazy. Oh, there's a third option. It's just throw anything against the wall. Yeah, desperation. You know, that lay out, at least diversify. Yeah, but they did all this before. They were even being prosecuted too.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I'm like, why even stir up all this drama? Like, why are you so greedy? That Trump does it all the time. I'm gonna sue you and then he doesn't because he'd have to depose. Then we get to subsection E on 59, page 59 called Donald Trump, Jr.'s interactions with WikiLeaks. And it starts with a guy named Jason Fishbeen,
Starting point is 00:58:35 put some Fishbeens on it. Sending WikiLeaks a password for an unlaunched anti-Trump website called putentrump.org. Shortly after WikiLeaks tweeted about it and then tweeted the password out. Then WikiLeaks sent Junior a direct message saying, hey, check out putentrump.org. Here's the password I guessed it myself,
Starting point is 00:58:54 even though Fishbeam sent it to him, and then gave Junior the password told him how to find out or asked him to find out who was behind it. Several hours later, Junior sent an email to a bunch of Trump campaign staff saying, hey guys, guys, I got a weird Twitter, DM from from WikiLeaks look below. I tried to password and worked And the about section the reference contains the next pick in terms of who's behind it Not sure if this is anything, but it seems like it really is WikiLeaks asking me as I follow them and it's a DM
Starting point is 00:59:21 Do you know the people mentioned and by what the conspiracy they could be looking for could be? He can't speak. These are just screenshots, but it's a fully built out page claiming to be a pack. Let me know if you want me to look into it later, pal. Late junior app. L8 late.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Why do you not go to the FBI at this point? Well, I mean, when you're a Trump. And the House even proposed to build this week requiring folks have to contact the FBI before an adversary contacts them to help interfere in the election, but the Republican said no. Yeah, yeah. Did they tell them about them potentially being approached by Russians before or after this interaction?
Starting point is 01:00:01 Before. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Special. And he doesn. Yeah, yeah, special. And he doesn't mention that in here either. There are a few other communications listed here that we knew about, including the Hillary drone strike thing that Junior retweeted and the messages where WikiLeaks tells
Starting point is 01:00:15 him to tell Trump to retweet the document dumps. They told Junior when they released part four of the Podesta emails and two days later, Junior retweeted the link. Makes you wonder why Junior wasn't charged with 18 counts of espionage for distributing stolen classified material. They told Junior when they released part four of the Podesta emails and two days later, Junior retweeted the link. Makes you wonder why Junior wasn't charged with 18 counts of SB&AGE for distributing stolen classified material. Exactly. On the page, let's say...
Starting point is 01:00:31 That's what makes me think though that it's not going to go down like that with a sange because otherwise they would have to charge someone like Donald Trump Jr. You'd have to charge anyone who did it because it doesn't delineate, you know, whether you're a media outlet, a fake media outlet, an asshole media outlet, just an asshole, or a nice person. Yeah, an ally. Cool. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I guess they're just going to get their ass handed to them for not doing that
Starting point is 01:00:57 then for not applying that justice to everybody. So it's not whatever happens. If that is what they're trying to do, it's not going to go far. Yeah, I agree. Then on to page 61, subsection 2 called other potential campaign interests in Russian It's not whatever happens if that is what they're trying to do. It's not going to go far. Yeah, I agree. Then on to page 61, subsection two, called other potential campaign interest in Russian hack materials. And this part is about all the other folks
Starting point is 01:01:12 that went after Hillary's emails on their own. Underpants A is about Henry Oknyansky, or Henry Greenberg. And we reported on this weirdo last year. He showed it wearing like cargo shorts and a Hawaiian shirt. It's the guy Caputo had, he's heard that he had dirt on Hillary and set up a meeting with Roger Stone in him. And Okiansky showed up with a dude named Raisin, Ukrainian associate involved in Florida real estate.
Starting point is 01:01:36 No. Raisin offered to sell Stone dirt on Clinton, including proof she laundered money with one of Raisin's companies. So like he's also a criminal. Stone asked if it was millions, she laundered, and Raisin said more like hundreds of thousands. And Stone was like, Nabra, we're cool. Trump's not gonna pay for hundreds of thousands.
Starting point is 01:01:53 So Greenberg told Mueller that Raisin was financially motivated and tried to shop his shit around to a bunch of folks. Mueller found no connection between Raisin and Trump. So it's just a rando. I wonder if they said no, because they're like, we know how much evidence is publicly available of money that we've laundered. And if it doesn't exceed that, then we don't want it. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Like, yeah, bye. I got you, B, bro. Yeah. You only laundered hundreds of thousands, Clinton. Ha. You suck. We got millions. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Mueller says, though, that Caputo and Greenberg had conflicting statements. Greenberg, this is the Hawaiian shirt guy, said Caputo accompanied Stone to the meeting, but Caputo said he wasn't there at all and was never told what Greenberg offered. Mueller couldn't find reason, which might be why Caputo wasn't charged with lying, because, you know, or Greenberg, because you have to have some sort of backing up evidence to this and there you go. Couldn't get ahold of people. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Subsection B describes the other campaign efforts to obtain emails. And this talks about Barbara Leiden and Peter Smith. The Flynn told Muller that Trump asked him multiple times to get the Hillary emails. And Flynn contacted multiple people in that effort. If you remember a long time ago, and no one believed Peter Smith was actually contacted by Flynn, like he was just making shit up, but he was indeed and beans came true, at least according to Flynn.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And now we know that thanks to recently unredacted Flynn sentencing memoranda, that Flynn was indeed asked by Trump to get Hillary's emails. In a recent court hearing, Judge Emmett Sullivan, who is the judge overseeing the Flynn case, ordered the public release of all redacted Mueller report information regarding Flynn, or related to Flynn, along with transcripts of his conversations with Kisley Act during the transition,
Starting point is 01:03:35 and the tape of the voicemail from Trump's lawyer, Dowd, to Flynn's lawyer. And Van Grack and Jesse Liu, in the U.S. Attorney's Office Office in DC objected to releasing, well, they printed out the voicemail, Dowd's voicemail, which was just a, hey, if you know it's good for you, you tell us. And otherwise, I'm going to go back and tell Trump you don't like him, uh, witness tampering and dangling a pardon.
Starting point is 01:04:01 But, uh, they did object to Sullivan releasing the Kisley Act conversations and they said regarding the report you have it all except for grand jury material. And so Flynn did apparently contact Peter Smith to help find the Clinton emails and was directed to do so by someone in the Trump campaign. We just found out today Sullivan has, he's not mad about it, about them not releasing, not following his order. He's like, all right, then he didn't give a reason why. So to me that says that those kissley out conversations, there's probably more than two. The government's never publicly acknowledged they exist.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And so they're probably super classified or they have something to do with the Fisk or FISA. And there's other stuff in there, maybe related to an ongoing matter or it's just super classified that there's just no way. And so somebody probably came up to Sullivan and went, bro, classified FISC. And he's like, oh, all right, cool. I accept your weird ass, you know, because that was a weird objection by Jesse Liu and VanGrac.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And VanGrac used to be on the Mueller team, and now he's the head of the new Pharah investigation unit in the Department of Justice. Yeah, I think of the main growth who like say crack again, but like Grack is his name. Van Grack. Van Grack. Van Grack. So Barbara lead and started looking for Hillary's emails before Flynn even contacted her.
Starting point is 01:05:23 As early as December 2015, and reached out to Peter Smith and they went back and forth but Smith decided not to work with her at that point and then Smith tried to get the emails himself and this we know about because it was reported diligently on in our previous episodes in public reporting he created the company KLS research which is on our fantasy indictment draft he raised tens of thousands of dollars there were were mysterious transactions. He recruited security experts. He claimed he was in contact with hackers, with ties to Russia, and that he was coordinating with the
Starting point is 01:05:51 Trump campaign. Peter Smith sent an email about his efforts to Sam Clovis. Most of what Mueller knows comes from Tate. Let's see if I can get this right. Suboxone and saffron. all of which we've discussed on the show all the way back to August of last year, August of 2018. So a little background here. Peter Smith is a long time old Republican operative that's actively opposed the Clintons since the 90s. Reportedly paying thousands of dollars
Starting point is 01:06:17 to promote stories about Bill Clinton's extra marital affairs. Matt Tate is a cybersecurity expert. Suboxone was added to our fantasy indictment draft in March of 2018 for his appearance in Adam Schiff's Minority Report, and we covered him again briefly in episode 71, The Man for it Megasod. Seboxen was the co-signer of KLS research. Peter Smith's company, which also is in Schiff's Minority Report, and on our draft.
Starting point is 01:06:42 And we reported he had been interviewed by Moller on three separate occasions, and on our draft. And we reported he had been interviewed by Muller on three separate occasions, and beans came true. As we all know, Peter Smith, though he did commit suicide. Later that year with a note that read, no foul play whatsoever. Sure. Why that's the weirdest, very strange. This is not how I died at all. Like why would he care so much if that's not the way he died? I know. Let us know that's not the way that. Yeah. And I still did still in mystery. We've always been suspicious of it. As was died at all. Why would he care so much if that's not the way he died? I know, let us know that's not the way he died. I still did still in mystery. We've always been suspicious of it. As was Matthew Miller, we had him on our live show Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:07:10 He was like, that's always been weird to me. So Smith was trying to recruit people to help him find Hillary's emails. He created a pitch to recruit folks saying he was working with the Trump campaign, Flynn, Clovis, Bannon, and Kellyanne Conway, and also, of course, he. Leader then got back in touch with Smith at that point and said she'd gotten a bunch of emails off the dark web, so leader took him to Eric Prince, who hired a tech advisor to verify the emails, turns out Eric Prince told Smith they're not real, and that's the
Starting point is 01:07:39 first I've heard of Eric Prince being involved in this. But according to the footnote, Prince is the one that told Mueller about it. Mueller eventually found that Smith, Leiden and the other individuals were in contact. They went with Russians. They were never able to obtain the Clinton emails. Any real ones, anyway. And I'd be interested to see if this is something else,
Starting point is 01:08:01 Prince lied to Congress about. In addition to his meeting in the Seychelles with the Metri of a Nader. Because he told them it was happenstance meeting. But as we know, Nader set it up. He just returned to the US and was arrested on multiple counts of transporting child pornography. What a cool guy. Yeah, they were talking about foreign policy, right? There was a whole point in that.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yeah, yeah. The back door channels, sanctions, lifting, moving forward. And this, of course, is the UAE in Bizzah and Israel. So, siops and black cube stuff. It's all just all sorts of things, you know. I mean, we've reported on it so extensively. I know, Julie, so you did a whole piece on black cube and siops and...
Starting point is 01:08:41 Oh, yeah, I'm weird shit. And Xamol, who, Nader, paid $2 million to to after Trump won the election but apparently they never used his services It was just a two million dollar just two million tip for being a bro. Yeah They just give the handshake with two million dollars in it Nice local handshake. Yeah, I'm gonna drug you totally or how comics get paid. Oh, yeah Well, we get paid drinks mostly Yeah, it's not weird though It's like the only two
Starting point is 01:09:06 ways I've been paid like that. Like you do the handshake with the money in it so nobody can see. It's how you do a drug deal or how you pay a comedian. Right. I don't know what I do that. I guess they don't want the other comics to see. Oh, that's probably what it is. Yeah. Hey, look, you get paid, but not you, motherfucker. Exactly. Yeah, I guess so. I'm not money funny. Anyway, this is then we get the summary of the section from Mueller saying, you know, the GRU hacked Clinton and Clinton's people. The DNC, the D-Triple C, stole shit,
Starting point is 01:09:33 set up fake accounts, released it, timed it, hooked up with WikiLeaks, released it through them. Mueller also established that the Trump campaign displayed an interest in WikiLeaks and the releases and that redacted redacted something about Roger Stone here probably. The evidence was sufficient to charge GRU officers for their role in election hacking, and then a redacted sentence.
Starting point is 01:09:53 And that's an interesting one, because it's harmed to an ongoing matter. And context here would indicate that it's about whether or not Mueller had sufficient evidence to charge someone in an ongoing matter, which indicates he does. I guess that's stone, or it could be those other peripheral Russian hackers that got into Hillary's account, that you know those accounts that they never tried before. We don't know. My guess is it's a statement about stone and how he was able to charge him with one count of obstruction, five counts of lying, one count of witness tampering, and that all that
Starting point is 01:10:21 stuff is in these pages, but redacted, and it's still open. Yeah, one count of an awful hat. Step white up and win some crap. So there's a new episode about the indictment of Roger Stone. It's a really good one. And read his charging document. Like I said, if you get a chance, read that Russian indictment.
Starting point is 01:10:37 If you get a chance as well, very, very important information that kind of goes, you know, it's a nice, you know, companion to volume one. It complimented well. Totally. Anyway, guys, that's it. That's section three. So join us for part four of our in-depth review
Starting point is 01:10:56 of the Mueller Report. And part four is gonna be broken up into a bunch of different parts, because it's long AF. But yeah, join us. We're gonna cover parts section four about Russian government links and contacts with the Trump campaign. So many. Yeah, it's the longest part of this whole report.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Go for it. Also known as no collusion. But anyway, that's it. We really appreciate you guys listening and thank you so much. And spread this around. People need to hear it. Parts one and two are already up on our main feed. You can find those there, available to the public. And you can join us every Sunday for our main episode. These
Starting point is 01:11:29 drop Thursday and our main episodes drop Sunday. And then for patrons, we have daily updates every day. We'll 30 minute news, you know, less structured, more swears type stuff. And your patronage goes to support our healthcare for our employees and paid sick leave and paid vacation. And it really makes a difference that we're able to pay a living wage and get those benefits, especially healthcare, especially in this day and age. All right, guys, any final thoughts? Yeah, just everyone that like tweets us about how much they love the Miller Report series, like that's really nice. I love getting those tweets.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yeah, people have been like trying to tell anyone that talks about the Miller Report like and about the audio version to check out our version. So I really appreciate that guys. Yeah, thank you so much for that. I do see that a lot. People on Twitter will be like, I wish someone was reading it, you know, and they'll always like link our, you know always link a link to our... Yeah, the Mueller junkies they show up for us.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I love it. Super duly, you guys are a great community. Thank you so much. Take care of each other. Take care of yourselves. I've been AG. I've been Julie Sojanson. I've been Jordan Coburn. And this is Mueller She wrote. Mueller She wrote is produced and engineered by AG with editing and logo design by Jolissa
Starting point is 01:12:49 Johnson. Our marketing consultant and social media manager is Sarah Least Diner and our subscriber and communications director is Jordan Coburn. Fact checking in research by AG and research assistants by Jolissa Johnson and Jordan Coburn. Our merchandising managers are Sarah Least Diner and Sarah Hershberger Valencia. Our web design and branding, our by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios, and our website is mullersheroat.com. For the past four years, we've been making history in critical elections all over the country. And last year, we made history again by expanding our majority in the Senate, eating election denying Republicans and crucial state house races, and fighting back a non-existent red wave.
Starting point is 01:13:51 But the Maga Republicans who plotted and pardoned the attempted overthrow of our government now control the House. Thanks to gerrymandered maps and repressive anti-voter laws. And the chaotic spectacle we've already seen shows us just how far they will go to seize power, dismantle our government, and take away our freedoms. So, the official podcast of the persistence is back with season four.
Starting point is 01:14:17 There's so much more important work ahead of us to fight for equity, justice, and our very democracy itself. We'll take you behind the lines and inside the rooms where it happens with strategy and inspiration from progressive change makers all over the country. And we'll dig deep into the weekly news that matters most and what you can do about it with messaging and communications expert co-founder of Way to Win and our new co-host, Jennifer Fernandez and Kona. So join Steve and I every Wednesday for your weekly dose of inspiration, action and hope. I'm Steve Pearson and I'm Jennifer Fernandez and Kona and this is how we win. M-S-W Media.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.