Jack - The Nunes Memo
Episode Date: January 29, 2018This week we’re joined by comedian Brendan Woodruff (Burn Booth)! We discuss the Nunes memo, Dutch intel report, & Trump’s order to fire Mueller in June. Enjoy! ...
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It's a big week in the Mueller investigation.
And by far, the busiest news week in the Russia probe since we began this podcast.
So we will try to get through everything.
Jordan is gonna talk to us a little bit later about the Department of Justice's letter
to Nunez, our friend, Pedro.
No, tell the Nunez.
No, tell the Nunez.
Nunez, sorry.
Do you really, I wonder, like, I can't imagine he took the tilde out to like, whiteen up his name,
but I mean, Nikki Haley did it.
But, tell the Swinton is the widest person in the world.
She clearly is.
She's translucent, pretty much.
Oh, you have an awesome jacket about that.
All right, so anyway.
Nobody's stealing.
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So she's going to talk about the new-naz memo.
Toge released the memo, Jelisa kindly agreed to cover Dutch intel.
Yes.
The Dutch.
And I'll be going over Trump's order to fire Mueller last June and other obstructions
of justice if that's the common's the what's the the common noun yeah that sounds about right what's the
noun for like the the plural noun for obstructions of justice like a murder
of obstructions I don't know we'll have to make up something we'll figure it out
you guys tweet at us that Mueller she wrote and tell us what we should call that
group of of obstructions.
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The evens are the Stevens.
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interview started with just the facts all right let's start with Sunday
Washington Post reported that Vesal Netskaya attended congressman Dana
Roarbocker's black tie a inaugural party a year ago. You guys live near that district that is not surprising.
Who's messing with Skaya?
You guys know messing with Skaya.
She's the lawyer slash Russian person.
She was the representing that one.
Oh, what were they called the, you know what?
Never mind.
At a try to overturn the night.
The lawyer, the lawyer that emailed down Jr. or whatever, right?
Well, right.
She was at the June 2016 meeting.
Yeah.
She was one of the people who Putin put in charge
of trying to block the Magnitsky actor.
Oh, return the Magnitsky act.
She was part of that campaign.
And she was at that Russian meeting.
So she was at Congressman Dana Robocker's Black Tie
in Nagyul, part of your year ago.
Woo. They also reported that a gaggle of other Russians who attended inaugural festivities, including Boris Tidal, Alex Reppik, and his wife, Polina.
Of course, you know, Polina.
So Russian.
You can get the entire scoop in the Wapo article.
That's my little name for Washington Post.
You can get that in the Wapo article. We'll put it out in the WAPO article, that's my little name for Washington Post, you get that in the WAPO article, we'll put it out in the newsletter. All right, so that was Sunday, that was the biggest news on
Sunday, I thought, oh, we're kicking off to a Sloan News week, but Monday, we found out lawyers
were supposed to have a conference on Monday to discuss the sentencing of Papadopolis,
but that has been delayed by Mueller for three months. That gives us an interesting hint
into the timeline we could be looking at, okay, for this all to start wrapping up, or at least ending the beginning of the investigation.
Also on Monday, Vanity Fair reported that Trump said, quote,
I have another nut job here who thinks he's running things about John Kelly,
and that he's actually considering firing his chief of staff, John Kelly,
the one of the only saying people in the bunch.
He's still a dick, but whatever.
And also I'm under the New York Times
or at least a story about the memo written
by the House GOP members allegedly containing
in St. News about how the FBI used the dossier
to obtain FISA warrants against House Trump.
That's what I'm gonna call from now on.
I'm a gay with Thrones fan.
Jordan's gonna cover that a little bit later.
Yep. And now, alright, get this. Axio's dropped a story. That I thought was a
story of the week on Monday. And on Monday, that's I guess kind of a big deal.
The FBI director Ray. Okay, WRA, well I always spell his name. I don't know what.
Who is Ray? So he's a Republican guy appointed by Trump to run the FBI after
he fired Komi. He's donated upwards of $40,000 to the Trump campaign, I think $39,000.
I'm working in $30,000, $39,000. Well, he threatened to resign amidst pressure from Trump
and sessions to remove Deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe. So who's McCabe? Well, we'll go
into that a little bit later,
but he's one of the, I call him the Komi 5, when Komi had all of his crazy meetings with Trump,
and he wrote memos, and then he went and talked to five high ranking FBI officials to tell him
contemporaneously, this crazy shit went down. McCabe is one of the Komi 5. The other half of this
crazy story happens on Tuesday, ready for what happened Tuesday? Oh my god.
What I thought at the time, and I haven't my notes
as the busiest news day in history.
On Tuesday, Rebecca announced he was leaving the FBI.
So yeah, so think back to episode eight.
Do do do do do.
I talked about the secret meeting between Ray Rosenstein
and Ryan.
Remember that when they showed up on Capitol Hill
and it was supposed to be about
new news and I tweeted on January 5th that one of the significant aspects of that meeting
is that Ryan asked for Rabicki to testify to the House Intelligence Committee.
And remember when I told you about the five guys, right, the Komi five, the weird meetings
with Trump when he asked for loyalty from Komi and he hoped he could stop investigating
Flynn and Russia and that Komi wrote memos and memorialize them by telling top FBI officials. Those guys, Comey 5, McCabe, Baker,
Rybicki, or Rybicki, Bodich, and Goddess, G-H-A-T-T-A-S, G-A-D-S.
There you go. Comey 5, even do five. That would be hilarious.
Like a scream of metal band.
Like the Jackson Fire as well.
It was the King of the Rock.
Oh, okay, that's a way of cooler.
I was thinking of the Jack Decoffs.
Yeah.
I was thinking Norway.
Well, Rabicki's quitting now.
So a couple that was a story from Monday about Trump
Pressuring, Ray to Fire, McCabe, and you've got another
possibility of obstruction of justice.
So this is a huge story to me.
And no one else really thought much of it, but I thought it was one of the biggest ones of the week but that was Tuesday. Maddo disagreed with me on
TSA. She thought that the bombshell was the whole Kushner China story which I'll talk about in a
minute but basically the intel, US intel intercepted communications between the Chinese ambassador and
the Chinese government that they had met several times with Kushner to like do deals back and forth about
adjusting policy versus getting I don't know HB1 visas or something that's theory
I don't know but well for sure what happened is that the intel intercepted these communications and
Kushner is a giant vagina also the president
China is on Trump's list of his favorite people right? It's him putting in the turkey
Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't put the Filipino guy in there.
He loves that guy.
And then the heir to one, the Turkish guy.
Also, that day, more texts were released from Strachan page,
and the Republicans are dancing around them
with their faces painted in an appropriate display of pride.
One of the texts, however, I have to point this out.
They're like, more texts.
We've got more texts, and then five months of the texts were missing, I have to point this out. They're like, more texts, we've got more texts,
and then five months of the texts were missing,
and everyone's like, Dowdy was like,
where's the text, you're keeping them from us?
And I give them credit, because it did seem a little fishy
that from the election to May,
when Mueller was appointed, the texts were missing,
but it turns out that they were replacing everyone's phone
in the FBI with new phones,
and like a good 10% of the phones had all their texts missing.
They did? Yeah, they ended up up finding the text so shut up.
And one of the texts actually that came out on May 19th, which is two days after Mueller
was appointed by Rosenstein, he's the deputy attorney general. They were discussing basically him and
Paige, his lover, I hate that they used that word, they were lovers. They had
discussed whether or not Strock would be asked to be on Mueller's team. And here's
what he said, he said to Paige, he said, you and I both know the odds are
nothing. If I thought it was likely, if I thought it was likely, I'd be there no
question. But I hesitate in part because my gut sense and concern is there's no big there there
So how can somebody be biased against Trump and
Think that he was innocent at the onset of the investigation?
struck that there's no there there and
That's I mean that's kind of like shuts down the whole thing about them being bias
in the first place.
And also, on a secondary note, how can you be biased as an investigator if you don't like
someone?
If you're looking to dig up dirt on somebody, not liking them makes you do your job better.
I saw a post from Dave Cyrus, I think, his name, but he was basically saying the same thing.
The people who are investigating Larry Nasser can't say he's a creep and then suddenly he gets off.
Yeah. Come on, that's ridiculous.
Yeah. Right. So, like, if I'm an investigator and I'm looking to see if someone,
somebody says, take a look at this guy. If I like that guy, then my bias might impact the investigation because
I might not look at certain things. If I don't like that guy, I'm going to look at everything
and I'm going to do a better job. I don't know. Unless you're lying and fabricating evidence.
It's weird to me. If you find crimes, it's not because you didn't like the guy. The only
way you can be biased in an investigation is if you like the person and
you don't find crimes.
So anyway, I thought that that was really interesting.
Anyhow, these texts are just another attempt to discredit Mueller and the FBI.
They're like Benghazi or the emails or Uranium One or Nunez's memo.
No one ever found a shred of criminality enough to appoint special product he's prosecutors for
It's time. So oh well there just
There are bunch of teenage girls obsessed over texts
I like it you don't believe what he said. Oh my god
I'm old. That's what teenagers sound like to me
Raw story also reported to you say that Biden had said McConnell blocked Obama for morning Americans about Russian interference
I thought that was interesting. I'm not sure how McConnell can block a president, but that's what that's what I show
Yeah, with his pace
The Jal thing
So that was interesting
We also found out from the Washington Post that Mueller will interview Trump himself in the coming weeks
And the interview will be focused on the firing of Flynn and Komean obstruction of justice. So not about collusion
It's about obstruction of justice nice
Washington Post is also
Yeah, which is also a crime. So I don't know why he's saying that's better at all. It's actually a crime. Collusion is a crime.
Nobody's trying to exactly. Nobody's trying to charge you with like it's not about my orange hair. No,
you're right. Correct. That's not a crime. I don't know what should. After this, it will be.
Like the Hitler mustache. Oh, I hope so. Washington Post also reported Tuesday that after Trump fired
Comey, he called McCabe, the acting FBI director
into the Oval Office, and asked him who he voted for, and then be smirched his wife for
being a Democrat.
McCabe said he didn't vote in the election, which he didn't.
I think he was a bus.
Yeah, that was confirmed.
He voted in the primary.
Yeah, he was a job bus guy, I think.
And so now Mueller is interested in that conversation as well. I need to remind you that McCabe is part of the Komi 5.
Right, it's a story out that I don't think Donald Trump knows what the word be smirched means.
Neither do I. I was gonna say at least I'm with him.
I don't think he's a listener, but if you are Donald Trump, please subscribe to the $1 million
a month level.
And we'll send you nothing.
A steaming pile of shit.
I'm sorry to die for that.
Perfect.
Also, this is so cool.
On Tuesday, Ray, the FBI director, tapped Bente
to replace Baker as General Counsel of the FBI.
All right, so Baker is one of the Komi-5, right?
And he got moved out of his spot as general counsel, the lawyer for the FBI.
So Ray has to appoint somebody.
So what does Ray do?
He appoints Bente, the guy who trump fired, who was third in line, that would have to carry out the order to fire Mueller if Rosenstein disagreed.
And so, and Bente has been on this investigation for a long time, said, that's kind of a giant fuck you.
And he can do that legally.
Yeah, he's the director of the FBI.
That's amazing.
He can appoint whoever the FBI wants.
He put Bente in that job.
I am so excited.
On Tuesday, also, Felix Sater was indicted in the New York
Southern District and served with subpoenas relating
to high-profile money laundering cases involving Kazakhstan.
Remember the whole Kazakhstan thing we were talking about with the three guys, the Troika. Yeah, so that's really interesting. These guys stole
billions of dollars from BTA, banking Kazakhstan and laundered it through real estate dealings with who?
Russia? Donald Trump.
Astronomists. So, yeah, the same thing.
Same thing.
Six and one half dozen.
Also on Tuesday, CNN reported that Gates could be changing his plea and cooperating with
Mueller as indicated by the new attorney.
He's just hired.
That's fantastic.
Good job, Gates.
High five.
So, just to recap Tuesday, the craziest news day I've seen so far in the world, Gates could
change his plea.
Sator was in Died in New York, Ray Hire, Danaentator, replace Baker, who was pressured to reassign it by Trump.
Trump called acting FBI director McCabe into his office
and asked him how he voted right after he fired Comey.
Mueller will interview Trump in the coming weeks,
personally about Flynn and Comey.
Biden told Ross story in Mitch McConnell,
block Obama from telling us about Russia.
The DOJ released more Strock tests,
but they actually show he thought Trump was innocent.
Mueller interviewed Sessions and Comey already,
and as I predicted,
Rabicki is gonna be forced out by the FBI
because of what he knows about the Komi men.
So, he Tuesday.
That's insane.
Ready?
You ready for Wednesday?
Ha ha ha.
We learned on Wednesday that Mueller's team
will question Bannon about Flynn and Komi.
We kind of figured that.
We also learned that Pompeo has been interviewed by Mueller.
He's the director of the CIA. Sarah Sanders learned that Pompeo has been interviewed by Mueller. He's the director
of the CIA. Sarah Sanders, Sarah Huckabee, the face. I like to call her the face.
She was asked an oppressor, quote, when Trump says no collusion, does he mean himself or his
campaign team? And she answered, he means himself. himself okay that's a little telling to
me no one else really picked up on that but I was like yeah so he didn't know
what was going on is probably what he's gonna go with
right yeah Stephen Boyd on Wednesday the very Republican assistant attorney
general for the office of a legislative. I can't believe we have to qualify these hardworking men and women
that have dedicated their lives to public service with what political party they are affiliated with.
But that's the climate right now. Thank you GOP. So Steven Boyd wrote Nunez a letter regarding
his memo. Jordan is going to go over that letter a little bit later. It's a fantastic letter.
I love this letter. Also, Trump had a Trump.
Trump, on my favorite Pixie's album, now Trump had an impromptu presser where he
said on his way to Davos where he said he would 100% testify under oath with
more. 100% I'll testify under oath with Mueller later. His lawyers had to walk
that statement back because they are banging their heads against their desk.
What's going on?
Imagine being Trump's lawyer.
By the way, CNN poll shows that 78% of Americans want Trump to testify under oath.
That's a lot higher than I would expect.
You go and think about half of them think that he tells the truth all the time so it doesn't matter.
59% of Republicans, 93% of Democrats.
OK.
Also, Manafort's Lawyers, a parent person.
Yeah, well, Manafort's Lawyers also apparently mistakenly
uploaded their personal notes to the public case
docket for all to see.
Once did I love this?
Because I just got my PASER ID.
So I can look at court,
docket, docket, I can look at documents, docket, documents.
And he uploaded, he meant to upload, I think,
a request to push back the trial date,
because right now it's May 14th,
but instead he uploaded all of his personal notes.
One standout part is that a quote,
CS1 is mentioned within the Manafort camp,
which is legal speak for Confidential Source 1. So there's a mole in Manafort's camp. Hi! I think this is
one of his eights that has been called to testify in the Mueller
Grand jury. One of the many, it could be a real estate agent. I don't know. But
somebody is a mole and Mueller and also said in these notes, Mueller has
subpoenaed that information.
Wednesday evening, Congress started to shit their pants on Wednesday, okay?
Nunez said he wanted to release the memo.
He said, I'm gonna release the memo.
Then the Democrats wrote their own memo
in response to the Nunez memo and said,
they would release their memo.
Then, then Chuck Grassley said, he wanted to declassify
and release the criminal referral that him and Lindsey Graham made to the Department of Justice about Christopher Steel
Okay, remember that that's a couple episodes ago then
Blooming fall demanded Grassley release the Donald Trump junior Senate judiciary committee transcripts from when Donald Trump junior testified and
It just it started just to go downhill pretty fast.
Everyone's like, I'm going to release this.
I'm going to release this.
I'm going to whip my dick out.
Blah, blah, blah.
Everyone's going to see.
Basically.
Yeah.
So also on Wednesday, NBC reported that Mike Flynn was actually
interviewed by the FBI in his office at the White House
two days after he got there in January.
Before Sally Yates warned McGann about him,
and he kept it a secret the whole time
He told nobody in the White House. I think and this is theory now that's fact
I'm going into theory. I think he was flipped by those agents, and I think he's working for the FBI that whole time
That makes so much sense for those 18 days. He was there Flynn holy crap
How long was he still in there when what what was that time period? 18 days.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
So I think he was working for the FBI for those 18 days.
And I think Trump caught Wendy was cooperating with the FBI.
And that's why he fired him.
Oh my God.
What if he's right?
Making his firing another case for obstruction of justice.
Just, I'm putting that out there.
And there's already two cases for obstruction regarding Flynn then, if that.
I love how my Tune of Foil Hat theories actually come to pass.
But I think that's a little out there, but I really do honestly think that when the FBI
visited him at the White House before Sally Yates warned anybody about him, warned McGan.
I think he had been cooperating with the FBI since then.
And none of them knew.
We also learned Sally Yates met extensively with Mueller's team last year.
As did Dan Coats, he's the director of National Intel, and Mike Rogers, head of the NSA,
National Security Agency, and Mike Pompeo, the CIA director.
Those interviews, particularly the Coats and Rogers interviews, would go right to obstruction
of justice, because if you remember, we reported in early episodes that Trump had asked
them to pressure the FBI to stop their investigation, which is what Nixon did.
He used the National Security Agency to pressure the FBI to stop the investigation.
So anyway, that could also help special counsel build an obstruction of justice case.
That's Wednesday, Thursday.
Washington Post reports that the Senate Judiciary Committee will release the transcripts of Donald
Trump Jr.'s testimony per
Chuck Grassley of all people. Why is he being so nice all of a sudden?
Yeah.
In return, Grassley has asked Feinstein to release the Kushner and Manafort transcripts from her Senate intel committee interviews.
What did that happen?
This is all as those interviews though. Do you know when those interviews happened?
I have to look that up.
Okay.
But they were I think in November and December.
Okay.
And so I think all those things are gonna be released,
which is interesting because I hear,
here tell, there's a slip up in the DT Junior interview
that his dad actually did know
about the June 2016 meeting.
Interesting.
Maggie Haberman and Michael Schmitt.
Oh my God.
Thursday night, the New York Times
dropped the bombshell that Trump attempted to fire Mueller in June of 2017. I'm going
to go into detail in that a bit later, but holy bajoli. That's what I thought was the
craziest thing. That is. And I often wonder like Nixon did fire Archibald Cox, and that was the end of it for him.
So does this that he tried, but he didn't succeed.
So we'll go into that a little bit.
If it didn't wind up successful, I don't see Republicans doing anything.
Right. They almost like saved him from himself. Someone stopped him before it was too late.
I'll tell you exactly who stopped him when we're done with just the facts, which is ridiculous.
On Friday, we're to Friday now.
You guys, Trump's attorneys are reported to be researching a 1997 case.
They're looking at 1990's case law to avoid limited delay the Trump Mueller interview.
Basically, in that case, in 1997, an appeals court ruled the presidents and their closest advisors enjoy protections against
having to disclose information about their decision-making
processes or official actions.
Further, the court ruled that prosecutors must show that such
information contains important evidence that isn't available
elsewhere. I don't think Mueller will have a problem
showing that. So I'm sorry in lameman's terms, what exactly are they asking for?
So basically, Mueller is asking for an interview with Trump.
Trump says, I'll do it, but his lawyers are like, don't do it, you're such a liar.
I'll be really bad for you.
And so what Trump's lawyers have done is they found a case from 1997 that says that
presidents and their closest advisors enjoy protections against having to disclose information
about their decision-making processes or official actions. So that's going to be their defense as
to why they don't want Trump to testify with Mueller or to interview with Mueller. They don't have to
if it's presidential decision-making, which is everything, right? Which is what, yeah, everything.
Well, that's crazy.
But they ruled that the prosecutor, they can get them to testify if the prosecutor can
show that the information contains important evidence and isn't available elsewhere.
Okay, so that's the part that I can piece, as may I guess.
Basically, if the answer that Mueller seeks can only be gotten from interviewing Trump, then he can
interview him.
Okay.
If he can get the information from his kids or other people, then that's where he has
to get them.
Then he might not be able to.
If the information is whether or not Trump knew about that stuff then, then would men
here really mean it would have to be him and only him?
Unless the person who's going to grant the ability to have the interview,
if this does go to court, because you'd have to take it to court. If he can say, well, I've got
other witnesses testifying he knew, then they might decide. Like, like, hope picks or something.
Right. He wouldn't need him. Yeah. Well, hold up. Couldn't they then just make him
testifying or oath in front of a grand jury? Because
presidents can't get out of that because they've made
Clinton do that. Well, he can subpoena him. But this
1997 case law says that he doesn't have to appear. If his
information is not important, right, or you can't get
a somewhere else. So we'll see what happens.
It's just the president of the United States. It's not
important. I know big deal.
Another thing on Friday, a campaign advisor,
Ferrez Forell, I'm gonna come for real.
Mentioned, he was one of the guys mentioned by Trump
along with Papa Doppler's and Carter as policy advisors.
He was interviewed several times by Mueller's team last year
about Flynn, the Papa Doppler's meeting,
and Russia connections with that foreign policy meeting.
So that's interesting. And the New York Times also reported that Mueller now has memos, notes, and emails about how
McGann tried to carry out Trump's decisions in a legally appropriate way.
And what this documentation includes is a first draft of Trump's letter, Fire and Comey,
that mentioned the Russian investigation.
So the first draft that he wrote, remember that whole thing that came out that said he fired
Komi because of his handling of the Clinton email.
The first draft said it was because of Russia.
He crossed it out.
Never mind.
So apparently Mueller has that.
So Democrats, another new story that came out for it, Democrats are back on the task
of crafting legislation to protect Mueller.
Since this news came out, I'm very excited about that.
I really want that to happen.
Tillis, Tom Tillis had that legislation going and Trump pressured him to drop it, another
obstruction of justice.
Oh, I see.
But you really think that that will pass, though?
I don't.
That's what I was just thinking as how many GOP members have actually turned against
Trump actively yet. I don't know if it's enough
It's just the same right, but then they will be on the record is voting against it
And that's it that's politically important
Okay, that's right on Friday
Diane finestein, Dify sent out a list of letters to the following people. This is a bunch of letters where she wants an interview and she's demanding documentation.
I'm going to put in the newsletter, if you subscribe, you're going to get a list of all
these letters.
Here I'm just going to give you the letters, the people she sent letters to.
Banan Caputo, Coroio, Erickson, Forseman, Rhona Graf, Griffin, Keen, Kellogg, Lewandowski, Mashburn, Mermaid,
McGann, Amanda Miller, and Steven Miller, Sarah Gay, Million, and Sean Spicer.
She's angry! She's like, let me speak to your manager, really.
She's really mad. She doesn't have a manager speak to manager haircut though.
Oh, fair enough, you're interesting.
But the details about these letters will be in our newsletter.
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OK, now you guys, we have made it through this week's just the facts.
Woo!
Oh my god, it only took half the whole episode.
Not bad.
I'd like to hand it over to Jalisa now.
She's going to talk a little bit more about the news that broke, relating to the Dutch.
There are only two things I can't stand in this world.
People who are intolerant of other people's cultures
and the Dutch.
Yes.
So we just found out, we being the public on Thursday,
that the Dutch has been our friend
in this whole Russian hacking thing for a while.
Basically, since 2014, the Dutch have had access to a major
Russian hacking group called Cosibare. I guess...
Why are they only having such a good day?
Why are they only having such a good day?
But like all the people and all the entities have such ridiculous names.
That's true.
I love Cosibare and Fancy Bear. And here's my number one reason. There was a
quote that came out of Watergate that said, we're on a bear hunt and you're
chasing rabbits. Those are the people who were trying to
distract from the Watergate. Yeah. We're on a bear hunt and you're chasing
rabbits and for the GOP right now I guess it's rabbit season. They're just like
we're just like a little furry organization. Yeah, so my dust is over here.
They're furries. That's what it is. They're fucking furries.
I wouldn't put it past poo.
Just waiting for one to be called the Frisky Gimni Pig.
I like it.
I'll be so spot on.
I like it.
Oh man.
So, okay, basically, on Thursday, we found out this news because a Dutch newspaper called
a Vox Accrant, which means the people's newspaper, which is cute considering this report.
I mean, basically just said that they have had this access to this Russian group since 2014
and the first time that there was an attack that they noticed was the DNC hacking and the State Department.
So they actually were able to monitor these Russian hackers and track them and capture footage of them in the act. So it's so specific.
Yeah, they were able to track down their location.
I like their way.
Yeah, they did. That's why people put tape over the little...
Exactly, yeah. Mark Zuckerberg was trying to warn it.
If your like hackers should know that.
Guess who's not smart enough.
Well, I wouldn't have known. They'll catch me in anything.
You really think Trump would have known that?
No.
I think Trump's just like me. No.
Yeah, I know.
I'm not going to put tape over my camera.
The camera loves me.
I'm just like, I'm not photobooth all day.
Oh, that's great.
Snap, snap, snap.
I love it.
Because the thing makes your right half of your face,
your left half of your face.
Give me a good side.
So basically, the Dutch government immediately
alerted the US about this.
And at the time time the NSA was
well aware as a result but we just found out for the first time that this group was the
Netherlands.
So that's really cool because I don't really know much about the Netherlands and so just
to know that they're looking out for us and like spying for us, it's really nice.
I think that was cool.
And of course Putin spokesperson Dimitri Peskov denied the Dutch reports calling them untrustworthy
and stating, if Dutch newspapers want to add fuel to the fire of anti-Russian hysteria
that exists in America, this is not the most noble occupation.
Now of course you have a much more noble occupation than the Russian.
No, Russian accent, this is not the most noble occupation.
Very good. N-n-yet.
So, yeah, that's where we are now.
And the crazy thing is that we're not the only country that Russia has done this to.
It's already been proven that it's been done to 19 other European countries.
So the fact that Europe has actually been more aggressive about the way they handle this
and then Trump is just like, well, you know, he said he didn't meddle.
So... Well, he's got this big ego where he just like, well, you know, he said he didn't metal so well
He's got this big ego where he's like if I admit for one second that Russia metal in our elections
It it de legitimizes my wind exactly
So big on winning because it's got such a micro-paint right even if he thinks he's innocent
He's just way too like you know ego centric to let it go
So it's just sad that we're the country that everyone's looking to you like hey guys there
Right hands is micro pin or does that?
Good question
And bleached his ass all also
I just thought it's my theory that he's got untreated syphilis and it's just right on
Wow, just like what's this face? Garpent here. Yeah, so that's why he doesn't spray tan his micro-pean because the the drip just takes it right off.
I'm so gross.
I'm so sorry.
Oh no, don't worry about it.
We're explicit.
I feel Canadian.
Sorry.
So just to wrap it up, the British Prime Minister Theresa May, we love her.
She said to the Russians.
We kind of love her. I was gonna the Russians. We kind of love her.
Well, okay.
She's also done of the beef.
You know what, Hillary?
You know what, this makes strange bedfellows.
Okay, I never thought I would like,
Ray, I never thought I would like,
Come here.
Right, I guess, more recently, I've loved her more.
I mean, she's a nationalist herself, so.
No.
She's very, she's pretty far right.
Yeah.
You know what, so it must all be in the context
like you're saying, A.G. about that Trump Russian. Well, you know what? So it must all be in the context like you're saying,
A.G. about that Trump Russia.
Well, she's just like a normal conservative.
In comparison.
Let's choose other countries' conservatives
are our Democrats.
Yeah.
When I talk to my friends from Canada, they're like,
yeah, so our conservative party
and I'm like, so the Democrats and they're like, yeah.
Wow, it shifted so much.
Yeah, except that.
So, okay, we love her now.
There's a wrecking crazy piece.
Yeah, we can just equate it to the fact
that we don't use the metric system.
There you go.
Yeah.
She just told Russia, basically.
So I have a very simple message for Russia.
We know what you're doing and you will not succeed.
The UK will do what is necessary to protect ourselves
and work with our allies to do likewise.
So basically, people are just looking to Trump or you know the White House anyone there
to say something similar.
People conservative racist.
Just anyone.
Trump is a dick.
That's crazy.
That's how it is.
Yeah.
So, well, thanks.
We're laughing stock, yeah.
We are and I will point out if you do get to see the video of him of Trump and Davas
talking about how this whole him trying to find, if I'm a fire, Mueller was fake news, he got booed
and hissed.
Oh yeah.
And he was disinvited to a bunch of cocktail parties.
Oh my gosh, it's so great.
I mean, how sad for him.
Yeah.
Well, thank you, Julie said.
That's amazing, amazing reporting.
Of course.
Thank you.
And now I want to hand it over to Jordan.
You've got some details for us about the
Nunez memo. Hashtag released the memo.
Yes. So trending hashtag. David Nunez.
From Russian bots. Yeah.
From Kozy Bear and...
Maybe we should make little bears.
Like a Kozy Bear or a Fancy Bear?
I love it. There's a little
camera inside it.
Russian.
Russian like Teddy Rucks, Ruckspin but Russian.
Copper mod.
Yeah, just in for a month. Can you do this? You should we build a bear and see what we can do.
That's expensive shit right now. if you subscribe at the hundred dollar
Love like private label
You get from confession. I'll send you a cozy bear and a bottle of wine
I want to a birthday party build a bear once as a child
I don't think that sounds like a sex off somewhere
You were a child when they had build a bear?
I was
I'm like 14-inch
It came out when I was in the Navy It made The bear started when I was, when did it start? I was, I had to be like, it was
going strong when I was like 10. Yeah, I've been like 13 and I was just too old but
I remember it being there. Oh yeah, 15 years ago I was taking away Jordan. All right.
So David Nunez, head of house house intelligence committee has been talking a lot about wine to release this memo
Release the memo handshake that's calling out the FBI and the DOJ for how they obtain the FISA warrant
They're saying that they use the dossier to obtain the warrant and because
All the warrants multiple warrants. Yes. Yes. Yes. All of your words
Sorry, I'm on Russia. Right. Okay, where we get this is is back this goes back to when Trump was like they wiretap me. Oh, yeah
They did yeah, essentially all the information they've obtained
So oh god imagine this our our intelligence agencies are intercepting Russian communications. Oh my god
Oh, oh, oh look Trump's on the other end of the phone. That's weird.
Yeah, and now you're and they're trying to blame and they're trying to blame the origination of this all on the dossier that you know
They're of course questioning throughout the entire process of its release, but they still think that dossier is bogus
So they're like anything based on the dossier is bogus, too. Yes
You could show them the p-tap and they would still think it's bogus.
I want to see the p-tap.
They would be like, that was staged.
That's an actor.
It's probably should leak it on the screen.
That's like some black mirror show.
I'm sure it's probably on the dark internet deep in there.
It's probably on you porn.
She's getting under like a different name.
Yeah.
Can't wait.
It's under Hamilton Act 1.
Yeah, yeah, can't wait. It's under Hamilton Act 1.
But yes, so also just a refresher,
Fiza stands for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
Just a little refresher.
Fisk is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
You petitioned the Fisk to get a Fiza.
Got it, okay.
So in this memo, it is supposedly it's being reported that it calls
that coming, the cave and Rosinstein and the assistant attorney general of legislative affairs
as Stephen Boyd as AG mentioned in the beginning told Nunez this week that it would be reckless,
extraordinarily reckless to release info publicly without allowing the FBI and the Department of Justice to review the memo and to advise the committee on the risk of harm to national security and to ongoing investigations that could come from public release of this document.
So, of course, you know, the GOP, I don't want to just generalize the entire GOP because I will believe her that there's a Republican
He's a regular Republican. He voted for Bernie Sanders
Hope he's so sweet. He he's a Reagan Republican. He's just a fiscal conservative First-pillar government or tighter government
The general population is different than the people who are in charge. That's good. This is true
This is pre-T party area. Yeah
Republican is is I
Wish that the Republicans would finally split and and define themselves as they ought to be they ought to be called right wing or
Right nationalists exactly and the actual
We're in the beginning of this shift though. They're really miss debating
intelligently about the size of government.
We used to have all this great debates about that's just a basic economic principle debate.
That makes sense. Right, you don't bring social into it. It was about when Bush started going on,
when when Carl Rowe got involved, that it started becoming religious and moral. Yeah, and that's when it got twisted and fucked up. And anyway, so please continue.
Yes.
So instead, Stephen Boyd suggested to you
as that he instead offered the memo
to the Department of Justice, Inspector General,
Michael Harwitz, and then they could appropriately
investigate any alleged wrongdoing by the FBI
or other department personnel independently
and then assess whether release of the memo wouldn't pair its ability to do that
investigation. Right and that's a guy who didn't text his lover about Trump.
Yeah, so he's a non-biased legit. I just wasn't that whole thing with the
Colme memo been like he just wrote it down doesn't mean it's true and now
they're all like I got a massive
heart on for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you made me just the same argument you just wrote it down
don't you think true and the problem is here okay that whole Ray Rosenstein Ryan meeting the triple
r meeting I don't know what to call it. Hey, triple sticks. The Ray Rosenstein Ryan meeting that
happened contemporaneously on Capitol Hill
is when they were talking about, basically, Nunez a while ago, petitioned the Department of Justice
to turnover all evidence of all the investigative information on Trump on the Trump Russia thing,
and he wanted to interview all of the FBI agents that were involved in the investigation.
And that included Rebecca, remember?
And that's when I was like, oh, you're going to fuck Rebecca.
He's one of the Comi 5.
So that all came out at that time.
And so basically, when they met, Ryan said, nope, Rosanna's sorry, we're going to, I'm
going to back Nunez on this and they had to hand over all his evidence, but with very strict stipulations, like this is super highly classified stuff.
Most of you don't know about this, I'm gonna show it to you in a closed room, you can see it, Shift can see it, he's the ranking member, ranking member means the highest Democrat, highest minority person, Adam Shift can see it, and two staffers each can see it. And then there's one particular piece of information that is so classified that only I, myself,
Ray will hand carry it to you, Nunez, and hold it while you look at it.
You want to allow to touch it, like it was that classified.
And then Nunez went and just shared it with, and then he based the memo on all these things,
which he didn't even get all the information.
As you pointed out in the Department of Justice letter from Stephen Boyd, you don't even have all the information.
There's stuff we couldn't show you because it's so highly classified and you are
basing your memo on things that you don't even know about.
Yeah. Class of case of get an inch take a mile. He's allowed to look at these documents that it was even in debate
that he should be allowed to look at. And then now he wants to release his whole memo to the public.
And of course, this is an extremely reasonable request by the Inspector General just saying,
just let us do our job.
Let the department do our job.
We'll go through and we'll go ahead and we'll do the investigations that we need to.
That might come from the points you're raising.
But of course, my prediction is that Nunez is gonna keep pushing forward with the release of Memo
because if he can't do this, if he can't release it
to the public, then he wouldn't be able to create hysteria
against the FBI and the DOG, which is DJ.
Well, I have a theory that he knew the whole time
because it was so classified when he wrote the memo
that the DOJ would object to it, which makes,
get puts him in the position of saying the DOJ is biased.
Yeah.
It's more useful to them if they don't release it just politically. That's why I want it released, to it, which makes, get put in the position of saying the DOJ has passed. Yeah.
It's more useful to them if they don't release it, just politically.
It is.
That's why I want it released, but please redact the stuff that could hurt the United States.
It's very true.
And he's in a tough district to win, so he's got to go beyond the cards.
Well, everyone's going to get their ass kicked in the time.
So, the other thing to keep in mind is this memo might paint Rosenstein in a bad light due to reporting from the Daily Beast and indicating the memo like you said
names Rosenstein McCabe and Comey and if release these three will face more
opposition from the tinfoil hats on the right. Remember when I said to review
episode eight if you hadn't heard it go do it. That's one I mentioned Adam Schiff's
assertion that worse than firing Mueller directly would be the firing of Rosenstein to install a deputy AG that would put the Kai Bosch on the
Mueller investigation.
And now, right now, Trump is fuming.
Now, they just come back from Switzerland.
He's fuming about this and he might actually fire Rosenstein.
So we have to keep an eye on that.
Jordan, thank you so much for going into that.
All right.
So I want to discuss the incredible report that dropped Thursday from the New
York Times that Trump attempted to fire Mueller in June of 2017.
Mueller was appointed the month before by Rod Rosenstein. After the firing of the FBI
director James Comey, the reason that Trump conjured for justification of the removal of
Mueller is hilarious. First of all, he said that Mueller's firm pulled out of one of Trump's golf clubs over a fetus butte. He quit the golf club and Trump didn't
pay him back. Trump wouldn't give somebody their money.
Oh, crazy. Yeah. Same. He also said that Mueller's firm used to represent Kushner and that
Mueller had been interviewed for the FBI director job the day before Rosenstein appointed Mueller as special counsel
I think that's bullshit. That's really here. Mueller would have recused himself from this if that were the case.
Oh, Mueller had done the job and was retired. Why would he want it again?
Yeah, and there's actually an eight year max, but he was added on for an extra two years by Obama.
That's right. Even though he's a Republican super conservative.
Because he's so awesome.
He's sexy, just as sexy.
Since, Seth.
Every time you say that, I picture,
where you said you had an Instagram account,
pictures of Mueller Photoshopped on like,
do you need bodies?
Oh, that's what I found.
That's what I found.
He's gonna be sexy, Mueller.
It's pretty odd.
We're not at that.
I just want Mueller's fantastic face.
It's important to note, by the way, that he's a hero.
He's a United States hero.
He's a Marine.
He's volunteered to go to Vietnam on like some people who ran away from it for fake bones
birds.
So he's actually a patriot.
He's won a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star.
He won my heart.
He was a... He's a service record from Italian captain he's
just he's triple sticks he's a boy scout oh yeah now okay I've heard tell that it
was three sticks Bobby three sticks oh maybe I added the triple I like
triple let's hear you're spending your personal stuff Bobby three sticks
Bobby three sticks all right I it. I like triple sticks.
It's got better eliteration.
So anyway, sessions was recused two months earlier from this.
And he would have had to have Rosenstein firemuller.
And he'd just appointed him.
So that wouldn't have worked out.
So when McGann asked McGann to call the DOJ and have them fire Mueller, that's ridiculous because he would have had him in Rosenstein.
Rosenstein would have quit and then would have had to go on to the third person who would
have been Bente, but wasn't because he was fired.
But anyway, it would have been another Saturday at Massacre, so they would have likely refused.
And McGann refused to make the call, and he threatened resignation.
He said, I will resign if you make me do this.
This is not necessarily because he felt it was morally wrong, but he felt it would be a threat
to the presidency if he forced the Department of Justice to fire. Yeah, both are true.
I read like a Seth Abramson, Seth Abramson,
Thread where he's like, also, he has to stay trumps the lawyer there
because then it's harder for them to interview him as a witness.
Oh, without him.
Without him.
So, him threatening to resign would have like extra fucked Trump. Yeah, yeah.
My Trump was like now. Oh Trump knows better. I mean, I mean, I mean, McGam has the same lawyer that pre-buss and
Bannon has it would be really against his best. I mean, yeah, I don't know Trump is pretty stupid. I was gonna say I that ever said ever. I've never tried those better. He's a genius, but he's a genius in certain areas.
Not politically though.
He's a genius when it comes to reality TV.
He's a powerful, STEM maybe.
That doesn't make you a genius.
I think it makes a spell.
I object on it because a genius is everywhere.
Well like a caveman invented wheels.
I'm the minor here.
If I wanted to make a bunch of money,
I would say I was born again and become a country music star.
If you were successful, you'd be a genius.
I am already a genius.
I'm not gonna do that.
That's also a shame.
People have to be great though at the country music awards coming out to accept my award and be going like,
for the last three years, guys, I'm an atheist.
Fuck you all.
I don't know.
I think that's just because people geniuses what they call that.
So anyway, this is just the latest and a long list of potential incidents of obstruction
of justice.
I attempted to put a list together this morning after I woke up of obstructions of justice.
Okay, ready?
Number one, ask Comey for loyalty.
Number two, pressured Comey to stop the Russian investigation.
Number three, pressured coats of the NSA to stop the FBI investigation.
Number four, pressured Rogers to stop the FBI investigation.
And number five, pressured Pompeo of the CIA to stop the FBI and basic investigation.
Number six, pressured Burr Senate Judiciary Committee Chair to stop the investigating investigation in Russia.
Number seven, pressured several senators on the Senate Judiciary Committee to pressure Bird to stop investigating Russia.
Number eight, ordered sessions to release
one negative story per day about Comey.
Number nine, ordered McGahn.
One.
One.
Ordered McGahn, the White House attorney
to pressure sessions not to recuse
so he could quote, protect him.
Number 10, exploded an anger when sessions refused
to not recuse himself because he was supposed to quote,
protect him. Fired Jim Comey because of the Russian
investigation, number 12, fired Bente, acting Attorney General at one point
because he was assisting the FBI in their investigation of the Russian
interference. Number 13, fired Sally Yates, acting AG because of her knowledge of
Flint's ties to Russia, number 14, Asma Cabe for Loyalty, Deputy Director of the
FBI, asked him who he voted for. Number 15 ordered McGand of Firemuller.
Number 16 had Baker, the OGC of the FBI,
that General Counsel, the FBI, reassigned
for corroborating the Comey memos.
Number 17 ordered Ray, the FBI director,
to fire McCabe for his knowledge of the Comey memos.
Number 18 forced McCabe to retire at the age of 49
for his involvement in the Comey memos.
Number 19 fired Rybicki. These, one of the senior FBI officials, for his involvement in the Comey Memo's number 19 fired Rybicki. These are one of the senior FBI officials for his knowledge of the Comey
Memo's number 20 fired Ryan's pre-biss for his knowledge of the Comey Memo's
and number 21 pressured Tom Tillis to drop his legislation to protect a special
council. And now to add one more is this week's sabotage! Back on January 5th I
tweeted about an overlooked detail about the Ray Rosenstein Ryan meeting on Capitol Hill that Nunez wanted to interview several FBI agents involved in the Russian investigation, including Ribicki.
We had been reporting on this show for a long time that the Komi-5, those are the five high-ranking FBI officials that Komi told about his memos, that they were targets of the GOP. I tweeted about this, um, Rabiki interview detail, and it was picked up by MSNBC, thank you.
And remember this past Tuesday, Rabiki announced he was leaving the FBI.
Well late last night, you guys, late last night, foreign policy reports that Trump ordered
the targeting of McCabe, Baker, and Rabiki.
Trump ordered it. Wow. They, Baker, and Rabicki. Trump ordered it.
Wow.
They did not mention the other two,
Bodich and Goddess.
Gattis.
I don't want to say goddess,
because that sounds awesome.
Yeah, which credit Gattis.
But I'm telling you guys, keep your eyes open
for the early retirements of Bodich and Gattis.
So sad, but yeah, there's a pattern there.
I hardly say it like a pension.
If they can resign or retired, yes.
Are you guys ready for this week's fantasy indictment league? And thank you, Jeff Macias, for creating a chart for us.
This is fantastic.
But I do have to make some changes.
I have to add McGann to the plea deal list, along with Bannon.
And I have to take Rick Gates out of the amended indictment section and move him to the plea
deal category.
Okay. It looks like he's flipping. Yeah. Gates is flipping. I've been
wrong before. I've been wrong before. But I feel a Mueller Monday coming on. Nice.
Stay to the union is on Tuesday. He's been in Davos all week. This fevered
pitch is Senate ridiculous. I'm going to release everything party. It's gone absolutely insane.
We know now that he tried to fire Molar. I think that this Monday in a strategic play a play of
strategic that I think some indictments are going to be announced. I personally think the three are
Kushner Cone and who did I have? It's on the list. Oh, yeah, you know, we'll put we'll put it out
Yeah, Kushner's the big fish. I think he might be indicted this Monday. So anyway guys. I really want to thank you for listening to Muller
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Finally, thank you to Sally Cohn for the incredible facial expressions while appearing on CNN with Ben Ferguson.
You made my week. He Ben Ferguson is by the way, he's a right wing nut job who still thinks there's a secret society.
That text was clearly a joke. Like I read that whole exchange and that was...
I hope so.
Oh my god, how dumb are people? People are so dumb.
They're just purely operating on bad faith and I can't tell the difference.
That's probably what it is. We need a ladder.
I want to put out a post this week and I won't tell you under what name because it's
my real name.
Right.
Alright, here we go.
At this point, if you think Trump is innocent, then you just do not understand what obstruction
of justice is.
And that makes sense since Trump supporters are statistically undereducated.
It's not your fault.
You're the product of a
systematic dumbing down of the electorate so that the wealthy can get candidates
that make them wealthier. You are powerless to it. I'm actually kind of jealous of
your ignorance.
Who said that?
A.G.
So it's a reason it was like a politician. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
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I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know dumbing down of it. I feel like it's compassionate, because it's like giving
them a pass a little bit is not your fault.
You're so fucking stupid.
It's okay.
You're not a dumb.
How will they respond?
It's tough.
It's kind of funny, Penny, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some pretty dressed responses like, well, you don't even
know.
But that's what makes you who you are at the same time.
It's like, I totally get the bluntness.
It's neat.
Well, my girlfriend didn't finish high school and she's spotted off to figure all this
out.
But there is truth to the fact that some people are systematically like victims.
They just don't even know.
I also feel like there's a bunch of lead and the gasoline for a long time.
Fair enough.
You're probably dumb to a whole bunch of people down until we got rid of that.
You know what we just talked about that on science faction.
I'm on another podcast you guys
that was really shout out, yeah.
And it turns out the dumbing down of America could be,
dude, a let it gasoline that is so funny
that you bring that up.
I like the smell of gasoline.
I do.
That smells like a child.
Yeah.
That's my favorite smell.
I mean, that's not gonna have let it in in like 30 years.
It probably didn't, yeah, you guys aren't old no, but it probably didn't do the same damage to me as all the ether
Whipits that I inhaled
EG
Hey, I'm a doctor
I'm hanging away with it. I have IQ points to spare. There you go
And if you're on the train to Idyot town, then you maybe don't yeah, so
Well You guys this has been a really really fun episode. I'm so excited that we got through everything on the train to Idiot town. You know, maybe don't. Yeah, I so well. That's true.
You guys, this has been a really, really fun episode.
I'm so excited that we got through everything.
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