Jack - The Series Finale

Episode Date: June 1, 2020

This week on MSW, we're wrapping things up for now. This episode features Asha Rangappa, Andrew Torrez, Barb McQuade, David Priess, Frank Figliuzzi, Jennifer Taub, Glenn Kirschner, Greg Olear, H...arry Litman, Jenny Cohn, Renato Mariotti and more. Thank you for all of your support of Mueller She Wrote! We love you. Please continue to support us by subscribing to The Daily Beans wherever you listen to podcasts, or become a patron at patreon.com/thedailybeans!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Kimberly Host of The Start Me Up Podcast. If you like your politics with some loose talk and salty language, you're going to love my show. I interview the coolest people like Mary Trump, Kathy Griffin, and DNC Chair Jamie Harrison. The Start Me Up Podcast has an easy-going, casual style and a strong emphasis on left-leaning politics. We also have frank discussions about sex
Starting point is 00:00:20 and more than a few spirited rants. Just visit patreon.com slash start me up or wherever you get your podcast and start listening today. So to be clear Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what he said. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:00:47 That's obviously what our position is. I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time, a two, and that campaign, and I didn't have, and I have communications with the Russians. What do I have to get involved with Putin for? I have nothing to do with Putin. I've never spoken to him. I don't know anything about a mother than he will respect me.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. So it is political. You're a communist! No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring. Like all members of the oldest profession I'm a capitalist. Hello and welcome to Muller She Wrote. I am your host, A.G.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And with me today is Jordan Coburn. Hello. How are you? I'm well, personally. Good. I'm personally. Good. Good. I know it's been a pretty brutal...
Starting point is 00:01:50 ...week of news. And so we just need to move forward. And the best that we can take a break when we need to and take care of ourselves. But everybody, welcome to the series finale of Mola, she wrote, at least for now, after two and a half years being honored by the Webby's twice, humbling amount of accolades and a 13 city tour. It is time to hang up the, what, the spyglass, I guess. Time to focus on the daily beans, the 2020 election, unrest, civil unrest. And with Bill Barr at the helm of the Department of Justice, we can't play the fantasy indictment league anymore. It's just time to power forward.
Starting point is 00:02:30 So that's what's happening today. But fear not, we will continue to bring you the news on the Daily Beans podcast, just the same way we always have. So make sure you subscribe. Right now, like pause this, go subscribe to Daily Beans. We'll be touring as soon as we're able to with the daily beans. And of course we have our weekly video live stream happy hour that we open up to the public in the second
Starting point is 00:02:53 hour. We aren't going anywhere. So today Jordan and I are going to cover the most recent Buzzfeed FOIA, Mollar Memo dump. And then we have some farewell messages from past guests. You don't want to miss those. I'm still overwhelmed by some of the messages we received. But before we get to those molar memos, it's time for my favorite segment, Corrections. It's time to start. It's time for me to say I'm sorry. Oh, I made a mistake. Alright, so from Stephen, thanks for helping us get through these extra crazy times. In the episode, I am the cheat king, A.G. said that Sidney Powell was arguing before the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I don't believe that is correct, as Judge Sullivan isn't on the Supreme Court. A.G. also said that people claiming we're all gonna die are exaggerating, I don't believe this is correct either. If there are immortals among us, then eventual heat death of the universe confirms that we are in fact all going to die. It's just science. I'm nitpicking, but it's a little because I love you all.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Thank you, yes, a Supreme Court is not correct, it's the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. My bad. From Gail Nicholson, FYI, you can put Glenn Kirschner on anytime you want. Okay, I think Gail likes Glenn. Slight correction for you on the Michigan Naps and T ballots. Presidential primary is March 10th. I remember it well. I'm a precinct chair, and that was actually my last in-person social interaction with the community. As we went to stay at home, stay safe right after that. What SOS, Jocelyn Benson, did was to send out applications for absentee ballots for the August 4th primary for federal, state, and local reps and some local initiatives. I hope she'll be able to do the same for November. I am scared to work in November.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Super minor correction, but thanks for the opportunity to vent my fear for working in the precinct in November. Hell yeah. She was on our happy hour, wasn't she? Yeah, I believe so. Yes, patrons. If you're not a patron, become a patron. You can join in on our happy hours. And well, that's a daily beans announcement, I guess, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah, but, you know, if you're a patron of motor, you're automatically a patron of daily beans, and you're automatically going to be a patron of the new show quarantine confessions that day, bus views June 6th. You don't have to do anything but just continue existing. But if you want to be a patron and you can afford it and you can swing it during this 40 million unemployed Americans time in our awesome, great America, then awesome. So the little is three bucks a month. If not, we do a lot of these things for the public our happy hour. We make the second hour
Starting point is 00:05:28 Accessible to the public because we know not everybody can swing it From John Kenley. Hello. I love the show. I can't wait for you to go back on the road me to John seriously The episode on May 20th and the unutilized Fed program was set up to be exactly that. It's only there to provide an emergency backstop if large corporation is unable to issue new debt or CP to roll over a maturity. The cost of the corporate program or a punitive, the market rate for the company's existing debt plus 100 base points, 1%. The existence of the backstop has given the bond market enough
Starting point is 00:06:06 confidence that no one has trouble refinancing. I am a bond analyst by trade. Ah, well cool, that's where I hasn't been spent, Gacha. PS, the Animal Crossing talk is great. Thank you. I got my third loy of the valley today, I'm very proud. From ZScore, I love the good news section. It, in at least two interviews, including with Mimi Rokai,
Starting point is 00:06:26 Anglen Kirchner, that Judge Sullivan was appointed to his current post by Reagan and H.W. While this is true in spirit, there was another appointment from Clinton to the post where he is to this day. From Wikipedia, appointed Benches Superior Court in DC in 1984 by Reagan to the DC Court of Appeals as an associate judge in 1992 by President Bush to the Federal Bench in 1994
Starting point is 00:06:45 by Bill Clinton. Thank you for that correction. And lastly, the Frank Faglussi interview, he says about Flynn for Macounter Intelligence POV as essential listening. You're sincere and considered coverage during the Sofil Crisis has beyond informed me each day, helped me feel more connected while in lockdown.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So thank you. Very cool. Well, I'm going to miss corrections. We don't do it on the daily beans. Yeah, we'll try. We'll get it in there. I really think corrections are important. The pre-publication press release from Carnegie Mellon claiming half of all reopen America accounts are bots remains unavailable. There is substantial skepticism among bot influence researchers. Regarding these claims, the topic of botnets is nuanced from spam bots to DDoS or DDoS bots to social media and influence bots. Until there's been commensurate scrutiny
Starting point is 00:07:39 and vigorous debate, the CM press release and summarize results should be considered anecdotal. The quality of the show remains high as ever, despite a pandemic you all rock. Those are corrections everyone. If you have any corrections, please head to mullershearout.com, click on contact, select corrections, and build us a compliment sandwich. We'll get it right eventually, and we will be making future corrections on the Daily Beans podcast, I promise. Yay. And now, it's time for some news. So let's jump in with just the facts.
Starting point is 00:08:07 OK, some quick updates before we get to the Mueller memo dump. First of all, Roger Stone has just under 30 days to report to prison, so I smell a pardon. Oh, no. God, that says you're really crazy just now. Yay. Oh. Yay! Oh!
Starting point is 00:08:26 Also, the Inspector General of the Interior Department, who hasn't been fired yet, but probably will be now, has come out with a report about nepotism within that department. And I'll go over that in detail in the Daily Beans. So check that out, June 1st, Daily Beans. And Judge Sullivan has until Tuesday to respond to Flynn's of mandamus in the DC Appeals Court, and of course the attorney he hired
Starting point is 00:08:48 will be responding on his behalf. I had the distinct honor of speaking to former Solicitor General and the architect of the special counsel regulations that governed the Mueller investigation, Neil Katzjall, and I spoke to him about the Flynn case and the Shavin, Murder, and Mancel manslaughter charges, and you can hear that interview on the daily beans for June 1st. We will also have details on that Inspector General thing. But with those very important in the Mueller news headlines out of the way, let's talk about Jordan. Let's talk about the latest Mueller memo dump. Shall we? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yes. So this is, this is installment seven of the Mueller memos that have been released to Buzzfeed news from the DOJ and their FOIA lawsuit that they won where they have to be given all the underlying Mueller documents. There are billions and billions of documents. They can be given them over every month for the next 100 years or something like that. But these are the key takeaways from Jason Leopold bus feed this month. First of all, the current installment includes summaries.
Starting point is 00:09:54 This is directly from bus feed includes summaries of interviews with former White House Council Don McGann. These are summaries of interviews. By the way, there's a lot of redacted shit. Hopix is... Hopix is... The Acalistic. Classic. Um, Hopix, Rick Gates, and conservative policy analyst James Carifano. Um, I'm gonna call him James Fuck if I know because who the hell is that guy? Uh, in a departure from previous installments of the Moller Memos, according to Jason Leopold, many of the names of the interviewees from 31 to 41 interviews,
Starting point is 00:10:32 31 of the 41 are fully redacted. One or more is partially redacted. It is unclear if the redacted names represent 31 individuals or if some of them were interviewed multiple times. So, like, if they brought everybody in three times, then it's like 12 individuals. But there are 31 redacted names out of the 41. Former Trump deputy campaign manager Rick Gates said the Trump campaign couldn't afford to buy the advertising time they had wanted.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Until Komi announced he was reopening the inquiry into Hillary Clinton's emails. Quote, quote, the James Komi email scenario helped the last 10 days before the election were good from a fundraising perspective. I bet. That checks out. Yeah. Thanks, Homi.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Um, Don McGahn, former White House counsel and Lynch Pinn of obstruction of justice, recalled that after receiving a briefing about the FBI's investigation from former acting attorney general Sally Yates, he didn't think Michael Flynn was, quote, in trouble. He said he told the president he didn't think Flynn had committed a 1,000, 1 violation, which is making a false statement to the FBI. Flynn later pleaded guilty to that charge, although the Justice Department has since moved to drop FBI. Flynn later pleaded guilty to that charge, although the Justice Department has since moved to drop it. But McGann also earlier, before he talked to Sally Aids, was really
Starting point is 00:11:51 worried that Flynn was in a lot of trouble. So his message changed. McGann recalled how the president pressed him to have special counsel Mueller removed, and he was asked to stop former Attorney general Jeff sessions from recusing himself. McGann said he had to explain that the president should not communicate directly with the justice department. Quote, having that framework prevents the White House from nosing in on investigation. Amazing. Amazing that that was brought up as some sort of preliminary concern at some point. It's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And if I were, if I were the lawyer representing Judge Sullivan in the Flynn case, I would be like, even fucking Don McGahn was like, the White House shouldn't be speaking directly to the Justice Department because they need to be prevented from nosing in on investigations stone Flynn. An interview summary from November 2017 provides more detail. That's when our podcast started, by the way. An interview summary from November 2017 provides more detail about an FBI investigation revealed by the New York Times on Thursday into ties between Trump campaign advisor, Waleed Farahs and Egypt. Investigators asked a fellow campaign staffer what she knew about Farahs's trip
Starting point is 00:13:10 to Egypt during the presidential race and queried her about her own Egyptian contacts. So that's interesting. I'm assuming New York Times got this from this dump of of information. And an unnamed witness told investigators that Manifort was not a hard worker. Whoa, oh really? Oh really? Often Manifort showed up at campaign headquarters
Starting point is 00:13:35 at 10 in the morning left at one in the afternoon, never to be seen again for the rest of the day. Manifort had a mob boss attitude. Yeah, I was gonna say, he does a strike you as a kind of person that cuts shortcuts so you can do the least amount of work possible, even if that means people probably dying. Of course. Of course, that's how he operates.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Of course it is. That was dramatic what I just said. Sorry, the dying part. No. That's a TBD. Those dots connecting are not as explicit as what I just said with Linda itself to. So don't think that I'm just revealing some crazy shit just then. Another unidentified employee of the DEE DEE TRIPLE C said that after Russia hacked them in 2016, quote, many people had personal income tax returns falsely filed under their names,
Starting point is 00:14:17 and that the DEE TRIPLE C paid for credit monitoring services for employees. Another witness described strange developments regarding the laptop that Manafort was given permission to use in jail. This is big because we talked about the foldering member. Yes. That's when you go into Gmail and you write an email but you never send it and then you just hand
Starting point is 00:14:40 to the laptop and then they log into your Gmail and go into the folder so it never sends. It never pings a server. Can you just use notes at that point? Just use the notes app. Don't even bring Google into it. Take a piece of paper, right? Write a note on it, fold it up like the little tiny triangle football and then like, pull it into the jail cell. And then throw your hands up like field goal style. Exactly. It's the same shit. So this witness said, strange things happened with that laptop, the password protection that kept him from using the internet was mysteriously altered and a thumb drive that was configured to make it seem like it was empty
Starting point is 00:15:21 was actually hiding unknown files. Probably dick pics from Panty. God. I remember their texts, their love texts, the Panty texts. Yeah. Yep, I remember those all too well. Yeah. Just a couple of white fucking fake victims
Starting point is 00:15:42 talking to each other. Oh, the most surprising thing was that they believed to their bullshit. Yeah. Either that or they knew that we would find those text messages at some point because they used a lot of encrypted, you know, signal and WhatsApp that delete messages.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Maybe these were the ones that we were supposed to find. Right, I figure if they were deletein' a shit, they would have deleted shit we didn't wanna see. Or they didn't want us to see. Another witness, a September interview, with a man whose name is redacted, reveals new information about a shadowy Russian back nonprofit whose officials were key players
Starting point is 00:16:20 in the 2016 Trump Tower meeting. Huh. Yeah, so you definitely want to go to Buzzfeed news. Look at these 302s, they're pretty amazing. There's a lot of them. And there's gonna continue to be a lot of Mueller news. And, you know, yes, this is the series finale of Mueller, she wrote, but this could be the first installment.
Starting point is 00:16:44 After we elect a Democrat and get a proper attorney general in there, we could have series come out. We could have Mueller, she wrote, you know, serial podcasts come out six episodes, special on Trump going to prison or us. What really happened to Don Jr. or, yeah, just wonder what we like following up on all the old things that have been brushed under the carpet, those additional 12 redacted Appendix D investigations
Starting point is 00:17:15 that were handed off to other authorities. We could have a special when, when and if we ever see the counter intelligence report from the Senate Intelligence Committee. But all of the Mueller news, if Mueller she wrote isn't on the air, you can get it all at the Daily Beans. So please become a subscriber to the Daily Beans and we'll continue to bring the news. Whist wearing and snark.
Starting point is 00:17:39 The end of an era. Well, I know. This is our final episode for now, like I said. And we have some farewell messages for you. So kicking it off is former FBI counterintelligence agent, Asha Rangapa. Let's take a listen. Thanks so much for having me on Mueller, she wrote, and for helping the public follow along with all the twists and turns of the Special Counsel investigation. I hope that it will be a great resource for people as they prepare for the 2020 election, and congratulations for being named as one of the best podcasts by Marie Claire for preparing for the 2020 election. Best of luck to you on Daily Beans podcast, and I hope to be a guest on there at some point soon. Take care.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Hey, this is Andrew Torres from Opening Arguments. Congratulations to Muller She wrote for three amazing years following the ups and downs of the Mueller investigation. It's spinoffs and everything that's wrong with the Trump administration. We'll miss you, but we'll be following along with the Daily Beans. To the whole team at Muller She wrote, this is Barbara Quaid. We'll miss you, but we'll be following along with the daily beans. To the whole team at Muller She wrote, this is Barbara Quaid. Thanks for your careful work to document this strange moment in American history. I know a William Barr thinks that history is written by the winners, but most of us believe there is such a thing as objective truth.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And so we appreciate your effort to report the facts. Thanks and all the best. This is David Prius with a quick farewell message for AG Jordan, now Mandy. Thank you for reaching new audiences with your commentary on all things, Russia investigation related and beyond, especially your interest in treating Bob Mueller
Starting point is 00:19:23 as a person and not just as a caricature. Farewell. AG, this is Frank Thigluzzi, MSNBC National Security Analyst and former FBI Assistant Director. They say it's all about the journey and I want to thank you for taking us along on a journey that would have been a whole lot darker and far more complex without your insights and help. Thanks for taking me along on the journey and thank you for your service to this nation. To everything there is a season and a purpose and your season and your purpose are far from over. They're just beginning. I'll see you on the Daily Beans. Hey, Muller She wrote team. It's Jennifer Taub and I'm just here to thank you for the many years of
Starting point is 00:20:10 excellent programming and for having me as a guest on your podcast. Remember, our Muller Votive Candles burned out long before your legend ever did. Best wishes, Gels. Hey, so all of my friends at Muller Shee Road, Glenn Kirschner here, you know, someone who worked directly for Bob Muller, I can't tell you how much I appreciate what you all did, in both bringing the actual facts of the Mueller investigation to the listeners and in explaining what those facts really mean.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Thank you for all of your efforts and your hard work, and I hope to see all around the way. This is Greg Oliar, author of Dirty Rubles, and Prevail. And I'd like to bid a fond farewell to Mollershi Rote. It's been an honor and a privilege to be part of this. And I wish AG and the crew nothing but the best going forward. Hi, Mio Lyshirov. People, it's me, your old pal Greg Prips,
Starting point is 00:21:08 from the smartest man on the world, Prupcast, just giving a big shout out to AG. And all the Mio Lyshirov peeps for doing such an awesome job of exposing the grifting crime and corruption of Orange 45's regime. The Mangle Mussolini will one day go down and we will all dance in the streets. So congratulations to Mola Shiroch, peace y'all, and be safe. And please wear a mask.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Hi, A.G. Congratulations on the end of a fabulous run with Mola Shiroch. Your podcast came out of nowhere and rose like a supernova. And you showed us all the power of an idea, pursued with passion, as well as really good humor. You managed to combine sophisticated detailed knowledge with a knack for presenting it in lively, funny, and sometimes profane ways. We all learned so much from you and had so much fun in the process. I personally will really miss my blindfolded trips to your lair to record the latest episode of Mollershi Road. But like everyone else, I'll be able to get my AG
Starting point is 00:22:16 fixed by tuning in to daily beans. I look forward to remaining your colleague in the post Mollershi Road world and to hearing your colleague in the post-Malorshi Road World and to hearing your thoughtful commentary wherever it arises. Warmer Guards, Harry Litman, Talking Fits. Hello, Jenny Kohn here. No, no, no, you can't end your show, you cannot. Mueller's She Wrote, Cast, Alice, and No, just forget about it. In all seriousness, thank you so much for having me. It is a guest on your show.
Starting point is 00:22:46 It was my honor and thank you for showing that although resisting can be difficult, it can also be fun and funny and inspiring. We will miss your show so much and look forward to seeing what each of you will be doing in the future. Thanks again. Bye-bye. Greetings, Muller Shee Road Nation. This is Andrew McCabe and I'm joined here by my beautiful wife Jill, say hi Jill. Hi, A.G. We just wanted to say thank you so much for not just what U.A.G and your intrepid partners have done with the podcast, but for all the listeners who have tuned in so regularly and shown such support for us and for the work of the special council. And it's your interest in finding the truth and looking through some of the nonsense
Starting point is 00:23:34 and the propaganda that we get day in and day out that I think has just been a beacon of hope for Jill and I. We've tried to get through this really tough time. Thank you all for being there for us, and assuming the positive intent that we've had, and also stand up, get out, help get us get to the other side of this. This is a really important year, even though we're stuck inside, we might not be able to do it in the same way, reach out to everyone you know,
Starting point is 00:23:59 make sure everyone goes out and votes, let's turn this thing around. That is absolutely right. Nobody ever want to fight by giving up and we will not give this one up. So thank you again for your incredible support, your interest in us, your, for all those folks that read the book and had super nice things to say about. It's just been incredibly helpful and it gives me hope that there is a future for this country. We are going to get out of this period and turn this thing around.
Starting point is 00:24:27 So thank you for everything you've done. And be safe. Hi, this is Matt Miller. This is one of those sad days when one of your favorite shows is ending, but it feels a little bit like when breaking bad ended, where at least there's a spin off where we can still listen to some of our favorite characters.
Starting point is 00:24:41 A.G. and Jordan, congratulations on a great run. And here's to hoping we never need a sequel for Muller Shee Road. But if we do, we know you'll be there. This is Renato Marriotti, former federal prosecutor and host of the on-topic podcast. I want to thank everyone behind Muller Shee Road for teaching us that following the news
Starting point is 00:25:04 can be informative and fun at the same time. I'm going to miss you, but I'll keep listening at the daily beans, and I encourage everyone else to do the same. Hey, Stephanie Miller here. I don't know about you. I have one fucking freight nerve in this whole coronavirus lockdown. And now Mueller she wrote is doing their farewell episode. This fucking sucks on a stick. Can I just say that it does daily beans is going on though. We need that. Yeah, we do. Yeah, yeah, beans, beans, the musical fruit, you know the rest. Stuffing.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I listen, I've partied with these girls in San Francisco. I did Mueller, she wrote live in San Francisco. I'm going to guess that it may be a lot of things surrounding the legal action there in the various restraining orders. Those girls can they know how to party. Yes. I apologize if I have a role in this. There's security footage. Yeah, but I love you, A.G. and I love you when Paula She wrote.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And we are going to continue to listen on the daily beans, but I has a sad about a Mueller She wrote. And I can once again apologize for any legal difficulty I may have contributed to. Love you, AT. All right, everybody. This is the end. And I need to thank everyone for your support. I am so happy that you turned to us for Mueller news and that you trust us to bring you the truth about everything that
Starting point is 00:26:26 happened in that investigation and thanks to everybody who sent in a farewell message. It's I'm overwhelmed like with humility about what everyone says. I couldn't believe it to Jordan in the interview in the daily beans for Monday with Neil Cattill, Neil fucking Cattill, right? Former solicitor general in the middle of the interview it came up because I was asking him a question about the difference between third degree and second degree murder and I had mentioned I'm not a lawyer and he was like, wait what? I was he's like, you're not a lawyer? Like no. And he's like holy moly. He's like, you're not a lawyer? He's like, no. And he's like, holy moly.
Starting point is 00:27:07 He's like, what am I even teaching law school for? I know you've been running with the lawyers for the last like two years at this point. Yeah, this is a 100% proof that the more incredible people you surround yourself with, they better you are. And that goes for every single person that listens and listens to this podcast since the early days in the kitchen, I would not be,
Starting point is 00:27:34 we would not be where we are and who we are if it weren't for all of those people and that incredible community. Yeah, couldn't have said a better myself. It's been insane just going back to the... I've now wound up back in a kitchen recording. It's come full circle for me personally. But...
Starting point is 00:27:52 Well, how perfect. Yeah, it is perfect, isn't it? It is, but thank you. I can't think... I think the thing that's most profound to me was... Everybody said more or less the same thing to us when we got to talk to them and it was like Thank you for keeping me sane and I don't think you guys understand You know what you've done for for people like me and I don't think we did really until we started
Starting point is 00:28:22 Going on tour and hearing people's genuine reactions and the fact that it was It's just like it's incredibly It's really powerful to have like gone through a horrible moment in history and we're still going through it But to know that that was the effect that something that we had that like he said started in a kitchen had on people And has on people and now we have all of these friends. It's definitely is 1,000% of 2H street. Like every time someone would say that to us at a live show, the first thing I would think to say,
Starting point is 00:28:53 because it's very genuine and true, is just like, you all don't understand how crazy this is for us, that we got to step into a role to do that for you and have you guys and girls and everybody support us and be with us through all of this. It was like true straight up online friendships have been made over the course of the last couple of years and just like solidarity for ever stuff. And we've seen so many examples of like our listeners showing up for people that need help at certain points in their life even if it's completely
Starting point is 00:29:28 unrelated to politics and like the community that it created of listeners and former FBI directors alike is just profound. So thank you. Yeah. And you know, our two goals were to bring the shit show news in a comforting way. That was funny sometimes. And I, 100% confident that we did that. And of course, number two, and I've talked about this in so many interviews about why I even started this podcast or why we even put this thing together. And that was to be in a future documentary about this time in history. And I think that I think we can safely say, Jordan, that because of the support that we've gotten
Starting point is 00:30:17 from this community, that this podcast will be historically linked to this investigation long after we're gone. And that makes me... that's everything. And it's all because of our listeners. So everyone, thank you so much. This is hard for me to do, but please take care of yourselves and take care of each other. I've been your host, A.G. I'm Jordan Coburn.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And that was Muellerer She Wrote. Muller She Wrote is executive produced and directed by A.G. and Jordan Coburn with engineering and editing by Mackenzie Mazell and Starburn's industries. Our marketing manager, production and social media direction is by Amanda Reader, fact checking your research by A.G. Jordan Coburn and Amanda Reader, and our knowledgeable listeners. Our web design and branding are by Joao Reader with Moxie Design Studios and our website is mullershoerope.com. Season 4 of How We Win Is Here. For the past four years, we've been making history in critical elections all over the
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